Re: Importing Formats - Why don't all Character Formats convert?

2015-04-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
Have you tried checking the remove overrides option? If a paragraph
has manual formatting and you don't check that option, the manual
formatting will remain.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Linda Garneau
linda.garn...@crossmatch.com wrote:
 ... When converting styles from a new template into a current document, it 
 seems to work perfectly, except not all the Character Formats carry over.

 For example, the Paragraph tag within a chapter file would all be the same 
 for Head1, but the character format for that tag converts correctly for some 
 headings and not others. I then have to manually fix the other headings and 
 Update All. ...
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Importing Formats - Why don't all Character Formats convert?

2015-04-30 Thread Linda Garneau
Framemaker 12
Windows 7 Professional (v 6.1)

Hi everyone,

We have several Framemaker 12 licenses on our staff (on a Windows 7 platform), 
and all of us seem to be repeatedly having this same problem, even with 
previous versions of Framemaker.

When converting styles from a new template into a current document, it seems to 
work perfectly, except not all the Character Formats carry over.
For example, the Paragraph tag within a chapter file would all be the same for 
Head1, but the character format for that tag converts correctly for some 
headings and not others. I then have to manually fix the other headings and 
Update All.
One workaround we came up with is to first import everything except Variables, 
Paragraph Formats, and Character Formats. We then go back again and only import 
Paragraph Formats and Character Formats (see screenshot below).
I know this sounds like a silly workaround, but this remains a mystery to be 
solved.

Any thoughts?


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Character Format Issue

2015-04-30 Thread Kristy Nolan
Hi, fellow Framers -

I am working on cleaning up our EDD for our manuals, Frame 11. We have 3 types 
of alerts (note, caution, warning) that pretty much follow the same rules, so 
are set up the same as much as possible. I have the caution and warning doing 
exactly what I need them to do with Autonumber Format as Caution: or 
Warning: and the Character Format as Bold Underline. Since I am trying to 
match (where possible) our Arbortext DTD and styles, I need the Note: to be 
just Bold.

However, the bold is not showing up. I can change it to everything else, 
including Bold DoubleUnderline or Blue, and it displays as prescribed. Just not 
plain bold. Spacing all works, nesting/indenting works fine. What can I be 
missing?

Also, if you are good at table format structuring and are willing to answer 
questions, I am having trouble with those. Right now those are still just done 
in my template through table designer with only the very basic set up in the 
EDD.

Thanks for any advice anyone can give on this!
Kristy


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Manager Flight Ops Publications
Central Publications
Southwest Airlines
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Re: Update All for Paragraph Tags in TOC

2015-04-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
If the template wasn't documented well enough that you can use it
successfully, I'd bet that it's not designed properly either.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Linda Garneau
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 I'm going to get back to you all once I clean this up. Going to try and get 
 the guy who created the template in here to help me out.

 I'll be back...
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RE: Update All for Paragraph Tags in TOC

2015-04-30 Thread Linda Garneau
Okay, so here's what I did:


1.   Place copy of old template TOC file somewhere outside the folder (just 
in case)

2.   Drop new template TOC file into directory with other files and rename 
it to the previous file name used for the TOC in that book

3.   Confirm that chapter names and headings in chapter files align with 
TOC headings in new template.

4.   Make sure there is no TOC file in the open Framemaker book (if so, 
delete it)

5.   You should now see an Add feature in the menu bar.

6.   Click on Add and select Table of Contents.

7.   In the dialog box, move over the items you want to appear in the TOC. 
Be sure to include the Index Title TOC. Click on Add.

8.   Another dialog box will appear to update the entire book. Click 
Update.

The disappointing result was I got a blank page, and all the other book files 
appeared to be corrupted as well. :( I closed the book without saving the 
files. Ugggh, what did I do wrong??


From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 5:53 PM
To: Linda Garneau
Subject: RE: Update All for Paragraph Tags in TOC

[Offlist]

You'll want to manipulate the tags listed on the reference page that defines 
which tags are gathered together to be the TOC (each of them will end in 
TOC). Using the old TOC file will require doing some a bunch of clean-up work 
(not very efficient), so...

The easiest thing is to just drop you new template TOC file in the directory 
with the other files and then rename it to the name used for the TOC in that 
book. Then from within the book make sure you set up the TOC to grab the 
correct headings (your new heading names).  Everything else should just fall 
right into place then -- easy peesy. That's what templates are for.

In fact, your new template should have a book file associated with it (with all 
the generated files set up properly). You can just replace your old book file 
with the new one and then add the necessary chapter files around/between (in, 
with and under) the generated file like the TOC, and (Voila!) when you generate 
the book you'll get your new TOC. (This assumes your template designer is 
designing an entire template for books and not just a new chapter file, which 
is an incomplete job.)

Hope this is helpful. I know I'm behind the curve and responding after a lot of 
other responses.

Craig

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Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:46 AM
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Subject: Update All for Paragraph Tags in TOC

Good morning my esteemed Frame friends,

I just successfully imported formatting from our new template TOC to the 
current document TOC (shown below). In this particular file, the paragraph tags 
for content headings (HeadVC1, HeadVC2, etc.) are labeled differently from the 
tags for content headings in the template TOC (HeadTOC1, HeadTOC2, etc). It 
will let me select one heading or a group of headings to update, but it won't 
let me do an Update All. It takes FOREVER to update every heading, one by one, 
to the correct tag in the template. Is there a way I can apply the tags from 
the new template to all the tags in the current doc at once?

Thanks!
Linda


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RE: Importing Formats - Why don't all Character Formats convert?

2015-04-30 Thread Linda Garneau
Robert, I think you just answered our question. The answer is NO, I did not 
have the While Updating Remove: Other Format/Layout Overrides box checked in 
the Import Formats dialog box. That makes perfect sense. Hopefully, this will 
do it! :-)

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From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:02 AM
To: Linda Garneau; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Importing Formats - Why don't all Character Formats convert?

Have you tried checking the remove overrides option? If a paragraph has manual 
formatting and you don't check that option, the manual formatting will remain.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Linda Garneau linda.garn...@crossmatch.com 
wrote:
 ... When converting styles from a new template into a current document, it 
 seems to work perfectly, except not all the Character Formats carry over.

 For example, the Paragraph tag within a chapter file would all be the same 
 for Head1, but the character format for that tag converts correctly for some 
 headings and not others. I then have to manually fix the other headings and 
 Update All. ...

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Re: Update All for Paragraph Tags in TOC

2015-04-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
It sounds like maybe your template is not designed correctly. How many
files does it include and what are their names?
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RE: Update All for Paragraph Tags in TOC

2015-04-30 Thread Linda Garneau
I'm going to get back to you all once I clean this up. Going to try and get the 
guy who created the template in here to help me out.

I'll be back...

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From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf 
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:35 AM
To: Linda Garneau; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Update All for Paragraph Tags in TOC

This is pretty confusing because neither templates nor TOCs are properly 
documented.

1. Make a backup of the project if you don't have one already.
2. Open the book and delete the TOC from the book. (Delete any other generated 
files, such as IX.) 3. Delete the TOC file (and any other generated files) from 
disk.
4. Import the template to all files and update. Fix any errors and clean up as 
necessary.
5. Add  Table of Contents ...

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Linda Garneau linda.garn...@crossmatch.com 
wrote:

 Okay, so here’s what I did:



 1.   Place copy of old template TOC file somewhere outside the folder 
 (just in case)

 2.   Drop new template TOC file into directory with other files and 
 rename it to the previous file name used for the TOC in that book

 3.   Confirm that chapter names and headings in chapter files align with 
 TOC headings in new template.

 4.   Make sure there is no TOC file in the open Framemaker book (if so, 
 delete it)

 5.   You should now see an “Add” feature in the menu bar.

 6.   Click on “Add” and select Table of Contents.

 7.   In the dialog box, move over the items you want to appear in the 
 TOC. Be sure to include the Index Title TOC. Click on “Add.”

 8.   Another dialog box will appear to update the entire book. Click 
 “Update.”



 The disappointing result was I got a blank page, and all the other book files 
 appeared to be corrupted as well. L I closed the book without saving the 
 files. Ugggh, what did I do wrong??


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Accidental Change All (am I alone?)

2015-04-30 Thread Shmuel
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