Re: [Framers] Table numbering issue

[Doug]

I use the table anchor to enable me to use xrefs to link to the top of
the table.  Our captions are below the tables, so if I link to the
caption, the table displays off the top of the screen.  This way the
entire table displays on-screen when the user clicks the xref.

If you know another way to ensure the table displays on-screen, I'd
love to hear it.

> 2. Did you check to see if the document numbering for paragraphs in Chapter
> Five is "Restart Paragraph Numbering" or "Continue Numbering from Previous
> Paragraph in Book"?
> The first will have the table numbering continue, and the second restarts
> it from 1, which sounds like what you're looking at.

That was it, thanks.  I dunno how I missed that...

Thanks!

Doug
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[Framers] Table numbering issue

[Doug]

My Book has 8 chapters, with tables in chapters 5, 6, and 7 (which are
separate FM documents).  My numbering uses the following setup, and it
works great.

Paragraph Format  Format
Table Anchor  T::
Table Caption T:Table :

However, if I add tables to any of the chapters 1-4, none of the table
numbers increment.  The table in chapter 5 still stays Table 1, and
none of my test tables in chapters 1-4 increment their table numbers
to account for the tables in the previous chapters.

It's almost as if none of the first four FM documents share variable
data with the other FM documents, whereas FM documents 5-7 do share
variable data.

Does this ring a bell with anyone?  Hopefully there's something I'm
doing wrong that is obvious to someone...

Thanks!

Doug
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[Framers] Typical image border issue in HTML5

[Doug]

I'm running FrameMaker 2017 on Windows 10 Pro.

When publishing to Resp. HTML5, the borders that I've assigned to the
anchored frames don't show up unless I also put a graphic object into the
AF also, such as a line.  I place it behind the image so it won't be seen.
(I mainly use JPG and PNG images.)

If the image is larger in size than the AF, this tends to make one or more
of the sides of the border not display.  Usually it's the bottom border
line, below the image, that goes missing.

I usually fix this by using Photoshop to crop out the unneeded section of
the image, to make it the same size as or smaller than the AF.

Today I noticed that I can make the missing border line display merely by
adjusting the height of the AF, without needing to crop the image at all.
One particular image displayed the missing border line if the AF height was
either 120, 123, 126, or 129.  It's likely that it would have worked at
other sizes incremented by 3, but that's all I tested.

I have no idea why this works as it does.  Just one of Frame's many HTML5
idiosyncrasies, perhaps?
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Re: [Framers] Character codes

[Doug]

The link provided by TIno works pretty well for my purposes.

Thanks Tino!

--Doug


On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:44 AM Tino H. Haida  wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> you would use the Code converter by Richard Ishida to find out exactly
> what characters are given.
>
> --> https://r12a.github.io/app-conversion/
>
>
> This tool is invaluable for my daily work...
>
> Best -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin
>
>
>
> Am 2020-09-24 14:54, schrieb Doug:
>
> Is there a way to select a character in Frame and have it tell you what
> computer code it represents?  Some special characters have multiple codes
> that will display them.
>
> Thanks!
>
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[Framers] Character codes

[Doug]

Is there a way to select a character in Frame and have it tell you what
computer code it represents?  Some special characters have multiple codes
that will display them.

Thanks!

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Re: [Framers] image background problem

[Doug]

Try exporting from PS to SVG or EPS.

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 8:07 PM Syed Zaeem Hosain 
wrote:

> If you are using JPEG format, these files do not have transparent
> backgrounds ... if so, use PNG format for the images.
>
> Z
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 3:30 PM
> To: FrameMaker Users List 
> Subject: [Framers] image background problem
>
> A question about an image technique that I've never been able to master
> but it seems everybody else has -- dropping out a white background. I've
> been assigned with producing a company newsletter formerly done in Word.
> And though I do use Word when I have to, I'm 22 years into FrameMaker and
> -- other than this -- it's usually so damn easy to do these things in Frame.
>
> The original newsletter (in Word) has a colorful banner with lettering
> across top of the first page. I can copy the main graphic element (a
> stylized color bar with a curved lower edge, similar to the Nike "swoosh")
> from the Word file and paste it onto the top of page 1 of the new Frame
> file, but I need to delete a white area from the lower portion of that
> graphic (easier shown than described; contact me off-list and we can do a
> share-screen Zoom thing so I can show you what I mean).
>
> I used Adobe Photoshop CS4 to "apparently" successfully delete that white
> portion from that jpg file; the formerly white area of the original image
> is now the familiar grey checkerboard. I saved that modified image as a psd
> file.
>
> But when I imported the new (psd) image to partly overlay another graphic
> element on the first page of the FrameMaker 10 version of the newsletter,
> the imported graphic still has that white area which overlays the other
> graphic element. Which is what I don't want.
>
> What didn't I do or what am I doing wrong? Whatever was done in Word
> should more easily be done in Frame, or so I thought.
>
> Help please?
> -- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] Weird spacing in PDF output

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Experiment by making changes to the source.

For instance, insert Pulse Software before the word "Pulse", and PDF it
again.  Observe the results.  If the new words display fine, delete
everything after them and PDF it again.  Observe the results.

You might be able to fix it, even if you might never discover why.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:50 PM Peter Gold 
wrote:

> It's a no-brainer, Lin! It's "social distancing. :)
>
> Seriously, I'm sure you have tried changing the source, say, with a
> different word, or if it's a text variable try plain text, or is a
> character tag applied, or if it's a corporate-name font, swap it, etc. Is
> the font customized to apply special kerning or spacing to specific glyph
> pairs?
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 3:46 PM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > This is only happening with 2 entries in the entire TOC. In the TOC, they
> > look identical to all the other entries in the TOC. I've checked the
> > paragraph tags in both the original files and the TOC files and they are
> > the same. But in the PDF created from that TOC, the text for those two
> > headings is weirdly spaced for the word Software.
> >
> > I've posted this to the Adobe FrameMaker forum, with pictures. If anyone
> > has an idea, I'd appreciate it. It's a little thing, but it looks bad.
> >
> >
> >
> https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker/weird-spacing-in-toc-after-conversion-to-pdf/td-p/11427776?page=1
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Re: [Framers] Adobe Job Options

[Doug]

I just noticed that the correct job options file loads by default if I
don't include the first document in the Book file.  I guess this means the
problem is with that document file.  I seem to recall the first file in the
book being used to store...settings?  Any truth to this?

Thanks,


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:50 PM Doug  wrote:

> Running Frame 2017 on Windows 10.
>
> We use a customized PDF Job Options file.
>
> I started a new project today, and when I went to use FIle > Save as PDF,
> the PDF Setup for Selected Files dialog defaults to a Job Option named
> Adobe PDF Preset 1.joboptions.jobo instead of my customized Job Options
> file.
>
> All my other projects still use the customized file by default.  It's only
> this one that defaults to this unknown file.  I can set it to use the
> customized file with two mouse clicks, but I have to fix the Bookmarks by
> hand.  Very annoying.
>
> Can anyone give me a clue why this is happening?  Where are these
> customized job options files stored?  Why do different projects use
> different job option files?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug
>
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[Framers] Adobe Job Options

[Doug]

Running Frame 2017 on Windows 10.

We use a customized PDF Job Options file.

I started a new project today, and when I went to use FIle > Save as PDF,
the PDF Setup for Selected Files dialog defaults to a Job Option named
Adobe PDF Preset 1.joboptions.jobo instead of my customized Job Options
file.

All my other projects still use the customized file by default.  It's only
this one that defaults to this unknown file.  I can set it to use the
customized file with two mouse clicks, but I have to fix the Bookmarks by
hand.  Very annoying.

Can anyone give me a clue why this is happening?  Where are these
customized job options files stored?  Why do different projects use
different job option files?

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Using vector images in Frame

[Doug]

Thanks all...SVG format did it for me.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 3:34 PM Lin Sims  wrote:

> JPG is a raster format, not a vector format. Use SVG or PDF instead.
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 3:26 PM Doug  wrote:
>
> > I want to make an image with text in it that will retain its sharpness
> when
> > the webpage is zoom in.  As I understand things, a vector image will work
> > for this.  How do I make a vector image with text?  I've made vector text
> > in Photoshop and Illustrator, but when I save it to JPG it doesn't work
> as
> > a vector in Frame.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
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[Framers] Using vector images in Frame

[Doug]

I want to make an image with text in it that will retain its sharpness when
the webpage is zoom in.  As I understand things, a vector image will work
for this.  How do I make a vector image with text?  I've made vector text
in Photoshop and Illustrator, but when I save it to JPG it doesn't work as
a vector in Frame.

Thanks!

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Re: [Framers] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based

[Doug]

We use FM 2017...do we need to be wary of Adobe making us pay them more
money in the future?

On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:48 AM Simon BUCH  wrote:

> FYI
>
> Despite what I was told last year:
>
> "/Customers will still be able to purchase perpetual licenses of all
> the above-mentioned products through Channel (Adobe authorized
> resellers) under Transactional Licensing Program (TLP) and
> Cumulative Licensing Program (CLP) even after 1 July 2019./"
>
> ... it appears that Adobe has made the decision that the purchase of
> perpetual licenses only applies to Adobe FrameMaker 15 AKA 2019 release.
> As quoted from the Adobe Territory Account Manager:
>
> "/FrameMaker 2019 will be available in Perpetual format.
> This mean, internet will not be required to keep the license active.
> This should be available for limited time."
> /
>
> and /that//:/
>
> /"Going forward, all the FrameMaker versions will only be available
> in Subscription.//
> //That said, we still can support these licenses in an offline
> environment./"
>
> But no further information was given.
>
> Currently subscription costs stand at approximately US$30 / GB£30.34 /
> €UR 36 / AU$45 etc. per month.
>
>
> Regards
> // Simon BUCH
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[Framers] Fraction symbols

[Doug]

I use Klaus Daube's ETB (love it!) and it has fraction symbols for 1/4,
1/2, and 3/4.  Is there another handy source for additional fraction
symbols?

Thanks!

Doug
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[Framers] Grammar, now with hyphens!

[Doug]

I've seen these used both ways, so I'd like some fresh input:  which of the
following are correct, and why?

single gear bike
four gear bike
ten gear bike
12-gear bike
20-gear bike
multi-gear bike
fixed gear bike

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[Framers] Images make scrolling through a Frame document problematic

[Doug]

My Frame documents usually contain a lot of images, usually photos.

I like to work with the zoom set out far enough for me to see both side
margins.  When I scroll through the document, Frame momentarily freezes
when an image scrolls into view.  After a few of these pauses, if I keep
scrolling, the entire screen will black out and freeze for 2-5 seconds or
so.

Then the screen will display again and my image will be there as expected.

I assume all of this is a memory issue, with buffers filling up and having
to be empties, or somesuch.

My workstation has 16GB of memory, so I'd have thought I wouldn't see
memory problems.  I'm running Windows 10 Pro on a Dell OptiPlex 3050,
i5-7500 @ 3.4 GHz, 64 bit.

Is there some setting I can tweak to optimize performance?

Thanks,

Doug
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[Framers] Grammar question

[Doug]

Which of the two sentences is better?  Is there a "better", or is it just a
matter of personal preference?

A. Remove all the covers from the supervisor and nodes before proceeding
further.

B. Remove the covers from the supervisor and all nodes before proceeding
further.

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[Framers] Table column widths in Resp. HTML5

[Doug]

Is there a way to make tables use fixed column widths in responsive HTML5?
I have them set to fixed widths in Frame, but in HTML the column widths
become dependent upon the content.
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Re: [Framers] Lines

[Doug]

--->  I made an error in the previous post; below is the corrected version:
<---

1. Draw a line using the Line tool.  Set it to 0 points in Height, and the
Width and Top to something arbitrary, say 50 each.
2. Now zoom in close and set the Stroke > Line Width to 10 points.

Notice that the line width expands both up and down.

That's annoying.  I would expect the stroke width to expand down, not both
up and down.

Why?  Because now that the line is 10 points in stroke width, the top of
the line is no longer at 50 pts.  It's at 45 points.  And the implication
is that even a 1 point wide stroke width line set at 50 Top actually set to
49.5 and not really 50.

This makes using the Top field to set the line's position on the page much
less reliable.

Is there something I'm missing?  It doesn't make sense that one field's
value would make the value of other fields inaccurate.

--Doug

On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 1:06 PM Doug  wrote:

> I just noticed something annoying.
>
> Draw a line using the Line tool.  Set it to one point in height, and the
> top to something arbitrary, say 50.  Now zoom in close and set the height
> to 10 points.  Notice that the line height expands both up and down.
>
> That's annoying.  I would expect the height to expand down, not both up
> and down.
>
> Why?  Because now that the line is 10 points in height, the top of the
> line is no longer at 50 pts.  It's at 45 points.  And the implication is
> that even a 1 point high line set at 50 actually set to 49.5 and not really
> 50.
>
> This makes using the Top field to set the line's position much less
> reliable.
>
> Is there something I'm missing?  It doesn't make sense that one field's
> value would make the value of other fields inaccurate.
>
> --Doug
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[Framers] Lines

[Doug]

I just noticed something annoying.

Draw a line using the Line tool.  Set it to one point in height, and the
top to something arbitrary, say 50.  Now zoom in close and set the height
to 10 points.  Notice that the line height expands both up and down.

That's annoying.  I would expect the height to expand down, not both up and
down.

Why?  Because now that the line is 10 points in height, the top of the line
is no longer at 50 pts.  It's at 45 points.  And the implication is that
even a 1 point high line set at 50 actually set to 49.5 and not really 50.

This makes using the Top field to set the line's position much less
reliable.

Is there something I'm missing?  It doesn't make sense that one field's
value would make the value of other fields inaccurate.

--Doug
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Re: [Framers] Weird Welcome Screen in FM 2019

[Doug]

My FM2017 has the same problem today.  Right-clicking doesn't give me a
"Back" to select, however.  :(

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 8:30 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> FYI, a lot of people are experiencing an issue with the Welcome screen on
> first starting FM up this morning.
>
> https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker/odd-startup-screen/td-p/11124312?page=1
>
>
> Fix is to right-click in a blank space and click Back.
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[Framers] Bookmarks when saving as PDF

[Doug]

Frame 2017 here on Windows 10

I have two projects, each with their own Book and FM files.

When I use the Save As PDF menu option, Project A produces the output
correctly:  none of the bookmarks are expanded in the Navigation pane;only
the root bookmarks show.

When i use the Save As PDF menu option with Project B, however, all of the
bookmarks end up expanded in the resulting PDF.  I don't want that.

Part of the problem, I suspect, is related to the PDF Setup in Distiller.
On the Bookmarks tab that displays during the Save As PDF process, the
field Bookmarks Expanded through Level is set to "Default" and it cannot be
changed.  I should be able to change it (to NONE) but it always reverts to
Default.  The Default apparently is the same as ALL.

I use a customized Distiller job options file, of course.  I looked in the
settings or that options file but didn't see any way to customize the
default.

Note that if I add an FM file from Project A to the Project B book file,
the bookmarks in the resulting PDF are all compressed as I like.  If i
remove this inappropriate FM file from the Project B book file, the
bookmarks default back to expanded.

I just now noticed that if I use the keyboard to type the number 0 into the
Bookmarks Expanded through Level field, it produces a PDF with none of the
bookmarks expanded, which is good.

But I still can't use the mouse to select None (or All, for that matter).
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Re: [Framers] Grammar question

[Doug]

That was my thinking as well...thanks all.

Doug


On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 2:11 PM Craig Ede  wrote:

> My wife the linguist says that makes sense because the sound of the
> phoneme drives the choice of the article preceding  it.
>
> Craig
>
> 
> From: Framers 
> on behalf of Robert Lauriston 
>
> I follow the Chicago Manual of Style guidelines, which say go by how
> it's pronounced.
>
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[Framers] Grammar question

[Doug]

MCN is an abbreviation for Multi-Channel Network.  When referring to only
one of them, which of the following do you use:

a MCN
an MCN

Thanks in advance.

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Frame Updates

[Doug]

Ouch.  I hadn't even thought about the FM version.  I'm using the 2017
release.  Do they even update my version anymore?

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:03 AM Simon BUCH  wrote:

> If you log in to the Adobe Tracker System:
> https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-6739
> there is a comment indicating that it is fixed in FM2020
>
> FrameMaker 15 [AKA 2019] was released on 22 August 2019, and based upon
> release dates of prior versions, it may be up to 18 months from then,
> which would make it around March 2021.  Unless Adobe marketing want to
> strategise the release and deploy it sooner.
>
>
> // Simon BUCH
>
>
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[Framers] Frame Updates

[Doug]

I was sent an email stating that the bug I reported, FRMAKER-6739, has been
fixed.  When can I expect to be able to download an update with this fix in
it?  Anyone know?

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Best way to import/add select paragraph formats?

[Doug]

I start with a blank document.  I create the format, then save it in a
folder reserve for formats.  I name the file based on the format name, and
I append a (p) or (c) to the filename to remind me whether it's a paragraph
format or a character format.

Later, when I need to import the format into a document, I just open the
template file and use the File > Import > Formats function.

Is there a reason others don't do it this way?
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Re: [Framers] Layout.CSS in Responsive HTML5

[Doug]

I've tried the following settings, and neither help:

Outputs > General > Override Styles for this Output
Style Mapping > Manage CSS > Import

I've even replaced all Layout.css files under C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Framemaker with copies of my Layout.css, but it continues to
not use my CSS during the Publish process.

I don't know where FM is getting its Resp. HTML5 values from.


On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 2:17 PM Caroline Tabach 
wrote:

> In the settings screen, you can tell it to use your css file.
>
> I am not next to a computer so cannot tell you exact path
>
> Caroline Tabach
>
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 16:44 Doug,  wrote:
>
> > I use a specific layout.css file that never changes.  However, each time
> I
> > publish to HTML5, Frame uses a default layout.css file.  I end up having
> to
> > manually replace this each time.
> >
> > Is there a way I can make Frame use my layout.css file for the publish
> > process?  Has anyone figured this out?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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[Framers] Layout.CSS in Responsive HTML5

[Doug]

I use a specific layout.css file that never changes.  However, each time I
publish to HTML5, Frame uses a default layout.css file.  I end up having to
manually replace this each time.

Is there a way I can make Frame use my layout.css file for the publish
process?  Has anyone figured this out?

Thanks,

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Re: [Framers] Acrobat glitches

[Doug]

I concur...this is a browser issue.  Open the browser settings and
configure it to open PDFs instead of downloading them.



On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 4:32 PM Jeff Coatsworth <
jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com> wrote:

> Isn't that behaviour governed by the browser?
>
>
> 
> From: Framers  jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of Ken Poshedly <
> poshe...@bellsouth.net>
> Sent: March 12, 2020 4:29 PM
> To: Framers List
> Subject: [Framers] Acrobat glitches
>
> OK Gang,
>
> While not directly a FrameMaker problem, it IS Adobe-related and I don't
> know how to fix it.
>
> Up until Tuesday of this week, all pdf files that I accessed -- whether
> they are on my on terminal or online -- automatically opened in Adobe
> Acrobat 9 Professional (which I legitimately own).
>
> On Tuesday morning, my son emailed me an I-9 form as a pdf file that
> required electronic completion. (It is from a prospective employer for him
> and he was not computer-literate enough to handle it.) That file would not
> open in my Acrobat app, probably because it was created with a much newer
> version of Acrobat (or similar tool). Instead, I got an Adobe Acrobat error
> box stating "Invalid enumerated value" faults on several lines.
>
> So I downloaded Adobe Reader DC so that at least I could open the I-9
> file. So far, so good. I was then able to electronically complete the form
> (name and address data). Great. So I closed out Adobe Reader but left it
> installed.
>
> Later that day while trying to open an online pdf file that I needed to
> access, I discovered that instead of letting me view the file, my system
> now downloads the file (into my Downloads folder) where I can open it in my
> Acrobat 9 Professional application.
>
> This is NOT what I want, I just wanted to VIEW it online. So I figured the
> new Adobe Reader installation somehow affected things, so I uninstalled
> Reader. But that didn't help. As a matter of fact, I then began getting a
> error box when I opened any pdf file in Acrobat telling me that my license
> had expired and I needed to uninstall and then reinstall Acrobat (or else
> consult with my IT administrator).
>
> I then uninstalled Acrobat 9, then re-installed it. Well, the expired
> license error box no longer pops up, but my system still refuses to open
> online pdf files for me to view but only downloads them (and I can then
> open them in Acrobat).
>
> I also have FrameMaker 10 installed, but that has NEVER been a problem and
> it is not part of this mess.
>
> So what gives? What was changed and how can I set things back to the way
> they were before that danged Reader app was installed and uninstalled so
> that I can view online pdf files?
> -- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] Resp. HTML issue

[Doug]

Funny, the tech who helped me didn't seem to have any knowledge that this
issue had already been discovered and reported.

GRR.

I just voted on 6502, hopefully they'll fix it (somedayargh).

In the following workaround, what does he mean by switching off the
Preference setting?  Will that prevent this issue from happening?

Any Workarounds:
Switching the Preference setting off before using the Pod



Doug,
>
> This is bug *FRMAKER-6502* <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-6502>
> ([CRASHER] Auto-Collapse Iconic Pods ruins Publish Pod).
> I strongly hope that it will be fixed in the next issue of FM...
> We can push this, if we vote on a bug!
>
> Klaus
>
> ~
> Klaus Daube Phone:  +41-44-381 37 77
> Schäracher 11   Mail:   kl...@daube.ch
> CH-8053 Zürich  Web:www.daube.ch
>
>
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Re: [Framers] Resp. HTML issue

[Doug]

Whelp, after 30 minutes on the phone with Adobe, we got it fixed at the
cost of removing my existing FM profile and starting out with a new one.

Very annoying.

Basically something became corrupted in the profile, which is located here:

C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker

My profile was in a folder named 14.  Renaming this to something else makes
Frame create a new one when you next restart it.

I was able to restore my PDF preferences just by specifying my Print
preferences in the Distiller dialog.  Restoring my HTML customizations was
only a little more complicated.  I made sure the Publish to HTML process
was working soundly using a new default STS file.  Then I closed Frame,
replaced the default STS with a copy of my custom STS, then restarted
Frame.  Seamless so far.

At least my STS file didn't become corrupt.

Still annoying.
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Re: [Framers] Resp. HTML issue

[Doug]

Sorry, forgot.

Yes, all patched up, v2017.  Just checked today for updates, too.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:09 PM Jeff Coatsworth <
jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com> wrote:

> What version of FM? Are you all patched up?
>
>
> 
> From: Framers  jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf of Doug <
> dbailey4...@gmail.com>
> Sent: March 11, 2020 12:06 PM
> To: Framers
> Subject: [Framers] Resp. HTML issue
>
> Frame has started to misbehave (again).
>
> This time it happens when I use the Publish functionality to create
> Responsive HTML.  To reproduce this, do the following:
>
> 1. In an open document, click File > Publish.
> 2. Click the Change Settings button on the Publish dialog.
> 3. On the drop-down menu that displays, click Edit.  the Publish Settings
> dialog displays.
> 4. Click anywhere in the Edit dialog.
>
> At this point the Edit dialog will vanish, and the main Frame window will
> become unresponsive.  You can't even click the X button in the corner to
> close it.  You have to right-click the task bar button (or use the Task
> Manager) to kill it.
>
> I thought I could fix it by Frame regenerate the STS file, but I did that
> and there was no change.
>
> Ideas?
>
> --Doug
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[Framers] Resp. HTML issue

[Doug]

Frame has started to misbehave (again).

This time it happens when I use the Publish functionality to create
Responsive HTML.  To reproduce this, do the following:

1. In an open document, click File > Publish.
2. Click the Change Settings button on the Publish dialog.
3. On the drop-down menu that displays, click Edit.  the Publish Settings
dialog displays.
4. Click anywhere in the Edit dialog.

At this point the Edit dialog will vanish, and the main Frame window will
become unresponsive.  You can't even click the X button in the corner to
close it.  You have to right-click the task bar button (or use the Task
Manager) to kill it.

I thought I could fix it by Frame regenerate the STS file, but I did that
and there was no change.

Ideas?

--Doug
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Re: [Framers] Book-level conversion of FM 19 to Word

[Doug]

Print to PDF then open the PDF in Word?

On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 9:17 AM John Posada  wrote:

> Hi guys, good morning.
>
> Is there a way of doing a batch conversion of a complete book (about 300
> files of almost 900 pages) into Word? I'm open to having to acquire a
> plugin or script.
>
> I'm undecided on whether I'd like 300 individual Word files or a single
> Word file...open to suggestions.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
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[Framers] CMYK color matching from InDesign to Frame

[Doug]

I've been tasked to develop a template in Frame that uses the same CMYK
color set as a document someone else created in InDesign.  I'm seeing a big
problem here.

When I define a color in Frame by entering the CMYK code, the color that
displays on-screen isn't the same as the color in InDesign, even though the
CMYK code is identical.

However, if I enter the RGB equivalent code in Frame, the color displays
accurately on-screen (on some colors--others are still off).

In short, RGB codes in InDesign usually display the same shade in Frame,
but CMYK codes never display in Frame the same as they display in InDesign.

Can someone explain why this is happening, and what I can do to resolve it?

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Tables question

[Doug]

Thanks to both Lynne and Rick, I understand how it works now.

Love this list!

Doug
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[Framers] Tables question

[Doug]

Is there a way to define a Table style that uses alternating color body row
shading?  I want a table where the rows alternate between green and white.
The Table Designer Shading tab seems to want to make all the rows the same
color.

I'm using FM 2017.

Thanks!

Doug
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

[Doug]

What I'd like to see in a new version of FM is a non-modal information
dialog that displays all of the characteristics of the currently selected
frame.

Currently I have to use separate information windows for anchor frames and
object properties, for example.  They are non-modal, so that's good, but I
don't have the convenience of looking at the same location to view the data
I'm interested in, since they are separate dialogs.

What's worse is that both text frames and graphic frames use modal
windows.  I have to jump through some hoops to view their data, and because
they are modal, I can't use ANY other part of Framemaker unless I close
their Properties dialogs first.

I'm using FM 2017 BTW.

Computers are supposed to make our jobs easier.  A single non-modal
information dialog is one way to do so.

--Doug



On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:17 PM Mike Wickham  wrote:

> New versions of FrameMaker always seem to concentrate on adding features
> for the structured community. I get it. That's the strenght of the
> program. But the new features I'd like to see involve handling of
> graphics and type. For example, it would be nice to be able to make a
> graphic float in the middle of a two-column page, and have both columns
> wrap around it. Or how about taking advantage of the various OpenType
> features that InDesign can handle with ease, but Frame is clueless
> about-- like easy, true small caps, or oldstyle numerals? Or optical
> margins and hanging indents, for a more modern, refined look in printed
> docs? Or a separate offset setting for numerators and denominators?
> Right now, you can set superscript and subscript offsets to work for
> either super/subscripts or numerators/denominators, but not both.
>
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Re: [Framers] How would you address this?

[Doug]

I agree with Lin.  Use conditional tags for the authors.



On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 3:20 PM Lin Sims  wrote:

> At a first glance? What I'd do is assign a condition to each author and
> then generate a book that has only their condition turned on.
>
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Re: [Framers] Clickable enlargeable image

[Doug]

You might be able to configure the publishing process to allow a larger
image size.

1. Click File > Publish.
2. Click Change Settings > Edit.
3. On the Style Mapping tab, click Image Settings.
4. Under Maximum Dimensions, mark the Width and Height check boxes and
specify the desired maximum image size.

You could also/alternatively try setting Preferred Dimensions > Scale.

--Doug


On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:40 PM John Posada  wrote:

> Good afternoon, everyone.
>
> I have some images that are full-screen size (can't get around that), but
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Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text

[Doug]

Lynne,

I just now tried out your suggestion using the original version of my
chapter.  The results were just as you predicted, everything displayed as I
had hoped.  The "40" and not("PDF") did the trick; it is the kind of
expression I originally had in mind though the wording hadn't occurred to
me.

Thanks!

Doug

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 1:52 PM Lynne A. Price  wrote:

> In your situation, you must use conditional expressions. You'll need
> 8 of them, one for PDF and one for HTML for each chapter. Use View >
> Show/Hide Conditional Text to define all 8 of them in the chapter and
> then apply the one you want.
>
> There are a couple of problems with the expressions Doug has used. I
> believe the tag names have to be in quotes. Also, Doug has started his
> expression for the PDF version of  book 40 with:
>
>  not  ("41" or "42" or "44" or "HTML")
>
> That will exclude anything with tagged 40 and any of the other book
> tags. In particular, it will exclude your "except 44" case, which will
> be tagged with 40, 41, and 42. Instead, assuming you will never tag
> something with both HTML and PDF, you can use simply:
>
>  "40" and not("PDF")
>
> The other 7 expressions follow this model.
>  --Lynne
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Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text

[Doug]

Lin,

Looks like that works.  I had been trying to apply multiple condition tags
to the HTML (and PDF) sections, but that wasn't working.  What worked was
applying a single condition tag that was named for the multiple conditions.

For instance, instead of applying the following four tags:

"40"+"41"+"42"+"HTML"

I applied the single tag:

"40,41,42,HTML"

(and for the PDF I applied  "40,41,42,PDF" )

That worked as I had hoped,   I even was able to use the Show As Per
Condition section instead of the Show As Per Expression section.

Your help was essential.  Thanks.

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Re: [Framers] Condition expression for conditional text

[Doug]

Thanks Lin, I'll give it a shot.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:42 PM Lin Sims  wrote:

> Err, by repeat for each book, I mean duplicate the expressions but editing
> them appropriately. So Book 40, which is your special one, uses almost the
> identical expression:
>
> Book 44, PDF: not (40 or 41 or 42 or HTML) and not (44 and HTML)
> Book 44, HTML: not (40 or 41 or 42 or PDF) and not (44 and PDF)
>
> I think you can see from this how the expressions would need to be edited
> for 41 and 42?
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:35 PM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > Conditioning text works best if you keep it consistent: all of your
> > conditions should be constructed either for the information you DO want
> to
> > appear in a specific document or for information you DON'T want to appear
> > in a specific document. Making some conditions for information you want
> in
> > and some you want out is, as you're discovering, hard to work with,
> > especially when you have some of the conditions on a piece of information
> > are for showing and some are for hiding.
> >
> > Over the years, I've found that it is far, far easier to tag for the
> > documents you want the information to be IN.
> >
> > For example, in your case, if the information is only visible in 41, tag
> > it with 41 but not 40, 42, or 44. If it's visible in 40, 41, and 42 but
> not
> > 44, tag it with 40, 41, and 42 but not 44. Yes, it seems like extra work,
> > but it produces consistent results.
> >
> > You also have two output conditions, PDF or HTML. This is where things
> get
> > trickier and where expressions come into play because you have to
> carefully
> > describe the information you want to be visible when there are multiple
> > tags on the text. (The problem with using the Show/Hide panes is that if
> > you have multiple tags on the text, using the Show/Hide panes means that
> > the text will be visible if even one tag is in the Show pane.)
> >
> > If you tag the way I suggest, I believe the following will work:
> >
> > For Book 40, PDF: not (41 or 42 or 44 or HTML) and not (40 and HTML)
> > For Book 40, HTML: not (41 or 42 or 44 or PDF) and not (40 and PDF)
> >
> > and repeat for each book.
> >
> > One of these days, I ought to write up an article on complex conditional
> > expressions. At one point, I was handling a set of files with 10
> different
> > outputs arising from 15 different conditions. The expressions were ...
> > complicated. And very, very long. I actually used multiple tables to
> figure
> > out the combinations needed to produce the output I wanted.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:38 AM Doug  wrote:
> >
> >> Things are getting complicated.
> >>
> >> I'm currently editing a chapter that is common to four books.  The books
> >> are 40, 41, 42, and 44.  Some content isn't applicable to book 44, so
> I've
> >> set up a condition tag named "Not 44".
> >>
> >> The problematic content sections use the tags (Not 44+PDF) and (Not
> >> 44+HTML), since some content is PDF-only and other content is HTML only.
> >> Needless to say, these bits of content are applicable to 40, 41, and 42
> >> (but not 44).
> >>
> >> Is using "Not 44" a bad condition?  I feel it must be because when I
> Show
> >> As Per Expression it shows both the  (Not 44+PDF) and (Not 44+HTML)
> >> sections, I assume because the expression says in include "Not 44"
> >> content.  It's as if the parentheses don't mean anything.
> >>
> >> Some content is unique to each book (4 condition possibilities)
> >> Some is common to some books
> >> Some is common to all books
> >> Some is PDF
> >> Some is HTML
> >>
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[Framers] Condition expression for conditional text

[Doug]

Things are getting complicated.

I'm currently editing a chapter that is common to four books.  The books
are 40, 41, 42, and 44.  Some content isn't applicable to book 44, so I've
set up a condition tag named "Not 44".

The problematic content sections use the tags (Not 44+PDF) and (Not
44+HTML), since some content is PDF-only and other content is HTML only.
Needless to say, these bits of content are applicable to 40, 41, and 42
(but not 44).

Is using "Not 44" a bad condition?  I feel it must be because when I Show
As Per Expression it shows both the  (Not 44+PDF) and (Not 44+HTML)
sections, I assume because the expression says in include "Not 44"
content.  It's as if the parentheses don't mean anything.

Some content is unique to each book (4 condition possibilities)
Some is common to some books
Some is common to all books
Some is PDF
Some is HTML

Ideas?  Thanks.
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Re: [Framers] Captions

[Doug]

Thanks for that tip, Rick.  It works brilliantly, and it's so simple I'm
surprised I didn't think of it.

Doug

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 12:13 PM Rick Quatro  wrote:

> I am not sure how your document is set up, but I have done something like
> this:
>
> paragraph format: "anchor" with autonumber F: and color White. This is
> the paragraph that has the anchored frame.
> paragraph format: "caption" with autonumber F:Figure .
>
> All of my cross-references point to the anchor paragraph.
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Captions
>
> My shop's standard is to (sigh) put the captions below the objects.  My
> workaround for this is to put a xref link above the object.  This works
> well, except the object name/number in the xref link doesn't update
> automatically if the caption changes.  (This is the reason for one of my
> feature requests I've submitted.)
>
> I was hoping I'd overlooked an easy solution to ensure my caption
> names/numbers in the xref links would stay updated automagically.
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 9:07 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > Frame goes to where you put the cross-reference marker, so yes, if you
> > want the graphic to be visible when you jump to it, you have to put
> > the marker above the graphic. Frame only has one type of
> > cross-reference marker; there is no way for the program to distinguish
> > between "this place in the text", "this caption above a graphic", or
> "this
> caption below a graphic".
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 8:19 AM Doug  wrote:
> >
> > > Is there an industry standard or best practice to follow when
> > > deciding where to place the caption for an image, table, or
> > > equation?  The obvious choices are either above the object or below it.
> > >
> > > Also, if you place your captions below, how do you deal with making
> > > cross-references to the caption?  In my experience the caption
> > > displays
> > at
> > > the top of the screen after the link jump. which puts the object out
> > > of sight above the top of the screen in this case.
> > >
> > > It almost seems as if FrameMaker expects users to put captions above
> > > the object.
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Re: [Framers] Captions

[Doug]

My shop's standard is to (sigh) put the captions below the objects.  My
workaround for this is to put a xref link above the object.  This works
well, except the object name/number in the xref link doesn't update
automatically if the caption changes.  (This is the reason for one of my
feature requests I've submitted.)

I was hoping I'd overlooked an easy solution to ensure my caption
names/numbers in the xref links would stay updated automagically.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 9:07 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> Frame goes to where you put the cross-reference marker, so yes, if you want
> the graphic to be visible when you jump to it, you have to put the marker
> above the graphic. Frame only has one type of cross-reference marker; there
> is no way for the program to distinguish between "this place in the text",
> "this caption above a graphic", or "this caption below a graphic".
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 8:19 AM Doug  wrote:
>
> > Is there an industry standard or best practice to follow when deciding
> > where to place the caption for an image, table, or equation?  The obvious
> > choices are either above the object or below it.
> >
> > Also, if you place your captions below, how do you deal with making
> > cross-references to the caption?  In my experience the caption displays
> at
> > the top of the screen after the link jump. which puts the object out of
> > sight above the top of the screen in this case.
> >
> > It almost seems as if FrameMaker expects users to put captions above the
> > object.
> >
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[Framers] Captions

[Doug]

Is there an industry standard or best practice to follow when deciding
where to place the caption for an image, table, or equation?  The obvious
choices are either above the object or below it.

Also, if you place your captions below, how do you deal with making
cross-references to the caption?  In my experience the caption displays at
the top of the screen after the link jump. which puts the object out of
sight above the top of the screen in this case.

It almost seems as if FrameMaker expects users to put captions above the
object.

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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Doug]

I understand that concern, but I see it as a minor inconvenience, once that
can be remedied via the use of the mouse's scroll wheel, by zooming back
out, or by clicking the down arrow on the scroll bar/dragging the scroll
bar down.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 5:27 AM Klaus Daube  wrote:

> On 12 Dec 2019 at 11:29, Doug wrote:
>
> > Unclickable cross references
> > FRMAKER-5971 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5971>
>
> Doug, think about this scenario:
> - You have such a cross reference at the top of a page and the target is
> far down.
> - You do not see the whole page due to the following
>   looking into the PDF with a tablet
>   having zoomed in to see a detail in a picture just before the cross ref
>   ...
> => You will be frustrated not to be able to click.
>
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Doug]

5570 seems to no longer be an issue.  Strange.  I can't reproduce it either.

I don't see a way to change the status of the request, however.

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 2:40 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I cannot reproduce issue 5570.
> When I save the document and then delete a
> condition tag and try to close the document,
> I get a message whether I want to save.
>
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Doug]

I've submitted a Feature Request for this:FRMAKER-7643
<https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-7643>

I've three others as well, all with zero votes (sigh).  Please consider
voting those those as well, everyone.

FRMAKER-6739 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-6739>
FRMAKER-5971 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5971>
FRMAKER-5570 <https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-5570>

Thanks!

Doug

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 9:58 AM Reng Winfried 
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I am not sure which object properties you want to show.
>
> When your object properties pod is open, you see the
> properties of inserted graphics.
>
> When you click Insert | Anchored Frame, this opens the
> Anchored Frame pod.
> When you now click on any anchored frame, the pod
> shows immediately the dimensions and the anchoring.
>
> However, you will not get the properties of text frames
> or of FrameMaker graphics objects (lines, rectangles, etc.).
> Create a new request in the Adobe Tracker:
> https://tracker.adobe.com/
> Post the issue number, and I will vote for it.
>
> Best regards
>
> Winfried
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] Frame Properties
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Part of the problem is that both text frames and graphic frames use modal
> Properties dialogs.  This means I'm not able to save a workspace while they
> are on-screen.  This is unlike the images themselves, and anchored frames,
> which use modeless dialogs; I can leave those on-screen all the time.
>
> I guess what I need is a way to display a modal dialog in a modeless
> manner.  It seems to be such an arbitrary distinction, text/graphic frames
> vs. image/anchored frames.
>
> In this respect Framemaker seems to be quite behind the standard set by
> other Adobe apps, like InDesign, Illustrator, etc.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > You can configure a personal workspace that will have the Object
> > Properties pod viewable at all times, if that's what you mean.
> >
> > Click Graphics > Object Properties, make sure it's open on the screen,
> > then save as a workspace.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:58 AM Doug  wrote:
> >
> > > I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I don't
> > > want to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog to
> > > always be on
> > the
> > > screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.
> > >
> > > Is there a mod/script/etc for this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
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Re: [Framers] Frame Properties

[Doug]

Thanks for the response.

Part of the problem is that both text frames and graphic frames use modal
Properties dialogs.  This means I'm not able to save a workspace while they
are on-screen.  This is unlike the images themselves, and anchored frames,
which use modeless dialogs; I can leave those on-screen all the time.

I guess what I need is a way to display a modal dialog in a modeless
manner.  It seems to be such an arbitrary distinction, text/graphic frames
vs. image/anchored frames.

In this respect Framemaker seems to be quite behind the standard set by
other Adobe apps, like InDesign, Illustrator, etc.


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:54 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> You can configure a personal workspace that will have the Object Properties
> pod viewable at all times, if that's what you mean.
>
> Click Graphics > Object Properties, make sure it's open on the screen, then
> save as a workspace.
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:58 AM Doug  wrote:
>
> > I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I don't want
> > to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog to always be on
> the
> > screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.
> >
> > Is there a mod/script/etc for this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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[Framers] Frame Properties

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I want the Properties to display whenever I select a frame.  I don't want
to press Shft+F6 every time.  Ideally I'd like a dialog to always be on the
screen, passively displaying the properties as I select each frame.

Is there a mod/script/etc for this?

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: [Framers] FM2019 and HTML Output

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Do you have any trouble with borders around images?  They can be
troublesome under FM 2017 HTML5.  Argh.

Doug

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 5:30 PM John Posada  wrote:

> Figured it out...thanks
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 5:21 PM John Posada  wrote:
>
> > Hold that thought. I'm now in Publish and making progress.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 5:10 PM John Posada  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi guys...
> >>
> >> I'm creating a project with the 2019 v trial.
> >> I've never used it for HTML output, so if I ask a few "duh's", my bad.
> >>
> >> I saw how to output the FM book by selecting HTML . However, there is no
> >> navigation.  Is there a way of outputting HTML so the TOC appears in the
> >> left pane hyperlinked to the topics?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
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[Framers] Dotted line

[Doug]

I want to make a line object that uses dots.  All of the presets use
rectangles, squares, or other blocky figures.  Does Frame support making
lines made of round dots?

For that matter, can I make a line end in a circle?  I see how to put
arrowheads on the ends, but I'm unsure how to make a line end in an open or
closed circle.

Thanks!

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Re: [Framers] Shortcuts not working

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I've run into the annoying problem where the cursor is stuck inside the
Marker window.  I can use the mouse to place the insertion point in my
document, but anything I type goes straight to that Marker window.

WTH, Adobe?   (smh)

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> did CTRL-8 and CTRL-9, and some other Function and CTRL keys as well. I'm
> on FrameMaker 17 (unstructured), Windows 7. There have been no changes to
> my system or installation. I've tried restarting FrameMaker and the
> computer.
>
> Any suggestions?
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[Framers] Opening FM 2019 documents in FM 2017

[Doug]

Is it possible to do this?  I just had some 2017 documents translated for
me and when I open them in my FM 2017 it says:

Although XXX appears to be a FrameMaker document, it can't be opened with
tihs release of the product.

Is there an add-on or something?

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Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] "16-bit" or "16 bit" ????

[Doug]

>
> >>> For example, "the auxiliary data bus is 16 bits wide".
> >>Or another way: "It features an 16-bit auxiliary data bus".
>
> >True enough.  But if the subject of interest is the auxiliary bus rather
> than the "it" that

>features the auxiliary bus, I'd argue that the bus deserves to be the
> subject of the sentence.

>Keeping the topic in the subject rather than the predicate makes for more
> powerful, active writing.


Well, in the example the subject of interest was the bus.  I added a
pronoun to make it grammatical.
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Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] "16-bit" or "16 bit" ????

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> For example, "the auxiliary data bus is 16 bits wide".

Or another way: "It features an 16-bit auxiliary data bus".

>
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Re: [Framers] News about the FrameMaker history

[Doug]

It was precisely for this purpose that I bought a keyboard with 10
programmable hotkeys.  I use them for FrameMaker shortcuts, and it has
saved me a world of bother.

Doug


On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 4:53 PM Lin Sims  wrote:

> You can still use the keyboard shortcuts, and the new features often have
> both Windows and Esc shortcuts added.
>
> Of course, occasionally they'll add a new feature and break a shortcut, but
> they're fairly responsive to bug reports. Recently the Row Format: Esc+tr,
> broke; I doubt if the update this week will have it fixed since I just
> reported it, but I have high hopes for the next one.
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 4:18 PM Alan Litchfield 
> wrote:
>
> > I know right?
> >
> > That was the implied point.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > --
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> > On 20/08/19 08:11, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> > > How do you figure that? FrameMaker has never caught on among graphic
> > > designers. They used Pagemaker, then Quark, then (and now) InDesign.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 11:51 AM Alan Litchfield  >
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> If it were not that FM had diverged from the familiar and functional
> > >> publishing system to a graphic designer tool, I would probably still
> be
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[Framers] Monitors

[Doug]

I'm in the market for two new monitors.  Anyone have suggestions for a
model that would work great for document development _and_ a little image
manipulation as well?  I use Frame, InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop to
tweak my illustrations, and need a monitor that candle the whole process.

Thanks!

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Re: [Framers] Simple grammar question

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Thanks everyone.  I appreciate the feedback.
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[Framers] Simple grammar question

[Doug]

Should the word "position" be capitalized when it is used as a label in a
sentence?  Such as in this one:

The display is in position E.

I'm inclined to leave it in lowercase, but I'm unsure.

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Re: [Framers] Confirm Security dialog pops up in Acrobat Distiller when "Save As PDF" started in FM12

[Doug]

https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/security-warning-postscript-pdf.html

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 10:51 AM Peter Hirons  wrote:

> I have the same too. Started about 4 weeks ago.
>
> Same setup.
>
> ---
>
>
> Peter
>
> On 2019-05-13 15:26, Tom Beiswenger wrote:
> > Every time that I generate a book using the Save As PDF command, I get
> > a "Confirm Security" dialog asking me "Are you sure that this file is
> > from a trustworthy source and you want to convert it?".
> >
> > Never mind that this is my own content and that I consider myself
> > trustworthy, I don't think it's necessary to have to answer this
> > question every time that I want to generate a book. This only recently
> > started popping up with the save as PDF command starts Distiller. This
> > is particularly annoying when the book is a large volume that can take
> > several minutes just to get to the point where Distiller opens.
> >
> > Any ideas on how to close this annoying Adobe message forever?
> >
> > Running FM12 on Win10, 64-bit OS on a new laptop that I've been using
> > for almost a year now. This message only started appearing about a
> > month ago.
> >
> >
> > Tom Beiswenger
> > Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation
> >
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> > Fax +1 607 735 2601
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

[Doug]

I think I'll go with Lin's wording.

Thanks everyone!

Doug

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:06 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
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> > This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled.
>
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Re: [Framers] Grammar Question

[Doug]

I can accept compliant, but since complaint modifies RS-485 (doesn't it?)
then a hyphen is required linking the two.  And we're back to square one.
Or am I remembering my grammar wrong?

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:43 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> I didn't look to see if RS-485 was a standard. If it is, then "compliant"
> is definitely a better choice.
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 10:39 AM Art Campbell 
> wrote:
>
> > Second Lin's wording, but I would use "compliant" instead of "enabled"
> > because "enabled" in this context is over the line into jargon.
> >
> > Art Campbell
> >   art.campb...@gmail.com
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> apply.
> >DoD 358
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:06 AM Lin Sims  wrote:
> >
> > > This cable connects to devices that are RS-485 enabled.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 7:57 AM Doug  wrote:
> > >
> > > > In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't
> want
> > to
> > > > use consecutive hyphens.  Can you suggest a decent alternative?
> Thanks
> > > in
> > > > advance.
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[Framers] Grammar Question

[Doug]

In the sentence below regarding RS-485 technology, I really don't want to
use consecutive hyphens.  Can you suggest a decent alternative?  Thanks in
advance.

This cable connects to RS-485-enabled devices.
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Re: [Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output: best practices and good documentation?

[Doug]

Following

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 4:57 AM Yves Barbion  wrote:

> Hi group
>
> I'm looking for best practices and good documentation (or user groups) on
> how to use and customize FrameMaker 2019 responsive HTML5 output, generated
> from unstructured Fm files and from ditamaps. The FrameMaker "Help" does
> not help me very much:
>
> https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/framemaker_help.pdf
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [Framers] Entering codes for special characters/symbols

[Doug]

I installed Klaus' toolbar and now I have no trouble entering Unicode
characters.  Thanks Klaus, and everyone.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 4:49 AM Klaus Daube  wrote:

> On 3 Apr 2019 at 14:22, Doug wrote:
>
> > That's why I was hoping to add the symbols to a
> > menu, so they'd always be there for any FM document.
>
> Hi Doug, you may have a look at
> https://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker75.html#context :
> The standard button for inserting special symbols has been replaced by a
> script to be
> able to insert also Unicode characters. You get the benefit to be able to
> modify the
> symbol table in this script.
>
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Re: [Framers] Entering codes for special characters/symbols

[Doug]

Thanks for the idea on variables.  I tried it out and it works great.  I
don't like that I have to import these variables into future documents, but
I will if I need to.  That's why I was hoping to add the symbols to a menu,
so they'd always be there for any FM document.  I got that working, but
only for codes that are 2 characters long.  I think there's a way for
longer codes but I need to read Klaus' info a bit more.



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 2:42 PM Lin Sims  wrote:

> Oh, and as a suggestion, I've found that characters of glyphs that I use
> really often are best set up in variables. I keep the variables pod open at
> the bottom of my screen and if I need a particular character, all I have to
> do is double-click on the variable. You don't even have to type a code in,
> just make sure that the font set supports that particular glyph and copy
> and paste it into the variable definition field from Windows Character Map.
>
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[Framers] Entering codes for special characters/symbols

[Doug]

I've been working on special characters lately, determining the best way to
enter them is pretty confusing.

Some dialogs require a \x before the character code, others require just a
\, while others require \u.  Some codes are 2 characters, while others
require 4 characters, all for the same symbol.  Worse, some of the code
charts I've seen don't apply accurately to FrameMaker.

Can someone point me to a chart of the character codes and how they need to
be entered?  One that is accurate for Frame?  I feel like I'm trying to
chart a river that has already been mapped.

Thanks,

Doug
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[Framers] HTML 5 and hanging indents

[Doug]

My numbered lists use an 18 pt tab and Left indent, so they line up great
in FM and in PDF.  Not so in HTML.  The hanging indent is 1 or 2 points
short, so it hangs too far toward the margin.

Is there no way to fix this?  I've been playing with the settings in STS
file for 30 minutes and nothing works.

Thanks,

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Re: [Framers] Different page sizes in FM document

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I believe all you need to do is create a new master page and specify the
size for it.  Haven't tried it though.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 4:05 AM Crety, Christiane <
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> Hi Framers,
> Does anyone know if it's possible in FM 2019 to have different page sizes
> within the same FM document? We may need to include diagrams etc. in A3
> format in one of our A4 FM books. It would be a pain to have to create a
> separate file in the middle of a chapter to accommodate the A3 page. Isn't
> it possible to have A3 and A4 Master pages in the same document?
> Thanks in advance :)
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Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.

[Doug]

I second David's suggestion.  I learned it here  a few months ago...makes
everything easier!

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 4:36 PM David Creamer 
wrote:

> If I might suggest a slightly different way of getting the graphics out of
> a
> Word file (works for PowerPoint too)...
>
> Make sure the file is in the .docx format, not .doc (and .pptx, not .ppt)
> Make a copy of the file for safety
> Change the file extension from .docx to .zip
> Open the zip file
> Look for the doc folder (or ppt)
> Look for the media folder
> All the graphics are there--usually in a higher quality than a web export
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[Framers] Brain dead on a Wednesday

[Doug]

I have multiple books sharing a set of chapters using the text-inset
functionality.  This set of shared FM files exist in their own folder,
separate from the book files.  All of the FMs, shared or not, populate
their footers using a variable that contains the book's name.

I'm feeling a bit brain-dead today so I can't recall the proper way that
the variable in the footer gets updated the next time I use that common set
with a different book.

I've already clicked Update Book but that didn't change the footer variable
in the text insets.  I know I can manually import variables from the book
into the text insets, but that means I'd have to do that every time I
change books.

Am I forgetting the proper way to do it, or is that it?

Thanks!

Doug
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[Framers] Unclickable Xref

[Doug]

In the body text of one document I refer to a figure on the same page,
using language something like this:  See Figure 10 below.

However, I don't want to enter the figure number in the body text because
the actual number might change in the future.  So it makes sense to use a
variable for the number.  Normally I'd use a cross reference for this, but
that would make the variable a clickable link.  Since the image is on the
same page, I don't need (or want) the variable to be clickable.  I just
want the number to update automagically.

Is there a way to accomplish this in Frame?

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Re: [Framers] Hypertext Jump function not working

[Doug]

You highlight a term and select Specify Named Destination...when you're
done with that, apply a character format to the term and to the Destination
symbol it creates.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 2:03 PM William Cohan  wrote:

> I am not sure what i am doing wrong here, let me tell you my steps - I
> highlight a term in my FM doc, go to Special-Hypertext, "Specify Named
> Destination"; put in the new link name, go to a topic further down,
> highlight, go to Hypertext command, select Jump To Named Destination, enter
> my newlink name into the gotolink field, and that is it; I generate the
> help into a reverb skin and the jump link does not work; why? Please advise.
>
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Re: [Framers] Any feedback on FM Publish Tools in 19?

[Doug]

The HTML5 results looks great, but it my experience it takes a LOT of
massaging to get it looking how you want it.  My gripes:

1. Too often bordered images in the FM will display in the HTML without
borders.
2. *.AI files with borders in the FM cannot have borders in the HTML unless
you also place a non-AI image in the same AF (hidden, behind the AI).
3. If you use the HTML5 settings to put borders around images (instead of
using Object Styles) then even equations will have borders.  (Fine if
that's what you want, but...)
4. On seeming random occasions the STS file will become corrupted and,
unless you have a backup of it, all of your customizations will be lost to
you.
5. Some fonts used in the FM files don't play nice in the HTML, forcing you
to make changes to your font choices.
6. Table column widths aren't always reproduced faithfully.  Often I've had
to use non-breaking spaces to force columns to be as wide in the HTML as
they are in the FM.
7. There is no side head in HTML, so anything you place there in the FM
will be moved to the main column, usually with poor results.

One good thing:  you can republish your HTML without having to close the
original in your browser tab.  This is different from the PDF, where it
complains if the original PDF is still open in Acrobat.

Doug

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:55 AM Art Campbell 
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> Was underwhelmed in 15, and haven't had to use them in 17. Particularly
> using the odd styling tool, which sometimes worked.
>
> But looking at HTML5 output and HTML help output just over the horizon.
>
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

[Doug]

I concur with Michael, in that the serial comma it is sometimes necessary
but regardless, it is never harmful.  I use the serial comma by default,
unless the 'and' is part of a singular grouping such as "Bath and Wells" or
"Marks and Spencer", or some such.

Doug

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> Ah. But it is necessary *sometimes*. The basis of the Oxford style is that
> including it is sometimes necessary but never harmful. Its consistent
> omission is often predicated on the quite false assumption that it does the
> same job as "and" so need never be used alongside it. But "and" is purely
> conjunctive whereas the comma can also be disjunctive.
> - Michael Lewis
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

[Doug]

>
>
> If you must have the 'and' I would removed the Oxford comma as I hate
> them, but this is a matter of local style.
>
>
I've always thought two of a tech writer's top values are accuracy, and
avoidance of ambiguity.  The Oxford (or serial) comma is essential for both
of these.
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[Framers] Unresolved Xref

[Doug]

I have a text inset FM file that is used in many different books, so it
contains a good bit of conditional text.  It also contains cross references
to other chapters in one of these books. I have these Xrefs marked as
conditional as well, and they are always hidden unless I want to view
conditions for that particular book.

However, when I change the condition view and click Update Book for any of
the other books, the Update process generates Unresolved Xref errors in the
Log file.  Clicking the links in the log file opens the text inset, but
using a Find Unresolved Xrefs results in nothing returned.  If I reset the
condition view to the referred book, the unresolved xref displays in the
inset.

If you can follow all of that, I have to ask:  why are the
conditionally-marked Xrefs processed by the Update Book procedure?  They
are marked as Hidden, after all.

Thanks!

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Re: [Framers] Master pages mis-applied when saving to PDF?

[Doug]

I don't suppose conditional tags are playing a role in this, no?

Doug

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:36 PM Alan Houser  wrote:

> Colleagues,
>
> In FrameMaker 2017 - Has anybody experienced FrameMaker changing master
> pages when saving a book to PDF?
>
> I have a structured document of several hundred pages, with automated
> master pages based on paragraph formats. I do Format>Page Layout>Apply
> Master Pages, and all master pages are correctly applied. I'm publishing
> to PDF from a FrameMaker book.
>
> On File>Save as PDF, FrameMaker applies ***different*** (and wrong)
> master pages. The (single) FrameMaker chapter binary file is modified
> with different master pages applied. I would not expect "Save as PDF" to
> modify the FM binary file in any substantial way.
>
> Is this a known issue? Or am I missing something? For what it's worth, I
> don't see the problem in FrameMaker 2019.
>
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Re: [Framers] Expected Size of HTML5 Help file - from your experience and knowledge

[Doug]

You might want to consider delivering a Help system that is text-only,
especially if you expect the amount of content to grow as you've said.
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Re: [Framers] Size of HTML5 Help file - how to reduce

[Doug]

I'm surprised...15 MB is not that big at all IMO.



> > > R told me that the HTML 5 help file that I made is too big.
> > >
> > > It came out as 15 MB
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Re: [Framers] Size of HTML5 Help file - how to reduce

[Doug]

I don't understand.  When I make HTML5 Help, it makes dozens of files, not
just a single file.

Doug

On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 9:12 AM Caroline Tabach 
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> Hi
>
> R told me that the HTML 5 help file that I made is too big.
>
> It came out as 15 MB
>
> Currently I have included the screen captures in the help.
>
> I made a new version without most of the screen captures, and it is much
> smaller.
>
> 1. Do you show the screen captures in help files?
> 2. Are there any settings in the Frame publisher that can themselves
> compress the graphics used in the help file (instead of removing them all)
> 3.  Can you make screen caps as thumbnails?
> 4. Has anyone else encountered this issue, and have any insights?
>
> -- thanks
>
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Re: [Framers] Hypertext Named Destinations in HTML5

[Doug]

Yea, that was it.  I forgot to apply my character format.  (And I forgot to
take notes on the process, which is why I forgot--smh).

Thanks!

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:16 PM Rick Quatro  wrote:

> Try applying a character format to the words you want to be the link text.
> Make sure you include the marker when you apply the character format.
>
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> Subject: [Framers] Hypertext Named Destinations in HTML5
>
> I'm specifying named destinations in my FM documents and Gotolink commands
> to navigate to them.  When I publish to HTML5 they work fine, except the
> entire sentence becomes a clickable link where the Gotolink was placed.  I
> want to limit the clickability to one or two continguous words.
>
> I thought I had this nailed the other day, but it's not working as I'd
> hoped.  Any advice?
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[Framers] Hypertext Named Destinations in HTML5

[Doug]

I'm specifying named destinations in my FM documents and Gotolink commands
to navigate to them.  When I publish to HTML5 they work fine, except the
entire sentence becomes a clickable link where the Gotolink was placed.  I
want to limit the clickability to one or two continguous words.

I thought I had this nailed the other day, but it's not working as I'd
hoped.  Any advice?

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Re: [Framers] Extracting images

[Doug]

This issue is resolved, thanks to you all.

I achieved my first acceptable result by dragging and dropping the image
from Word into Illustrator, then exporting to PNG at 1200 PPI.

Then I tried Fred's suggestion to print to PDF.  That worked better, and
the image was even better.

Finally I tried Klaus' suggestion to change the DOCX into a ZIP.  The image
was in EMF format in the ZIP file, and in Frame it looked the best yet.
Plus, it's a lot more convenient and orderly to simply rename the DOCX to
ZIP.

I've known about saving to HTML and even print screening a zoomed up image,
but neither preserved the image resolution.  Plus, saving to HTML resulted
in my image not being put into EMF format.  Instead it was in EMZ format,
which I'm not able to extract the EMF from.

Thanks again to Klaus, and to everyone else!

Doug
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[Framers] Extracting images

[Doug]

What's the best way to extract images from Word or from Frame that are
embedded and not inserted by reference?

I have one particular image that is composed of detailed line art, about an
inch wide by 6 inches high.  I loaded the DOC into Frame and the detail is
still sharp and clear, but all attempts to get extract it to an image file
on disk have resulted in a loss of sharpness/clarity.

Ideas?

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Graphics in help move when conditional

[Doug]

Caroline,

When I set my AF to Below Current Line > Left, they always display left
aligned in my HTML5.

You might check your Image Settings in your Publisher ( File > Publish >
Change Settings button > Edit > Style Mapping > Image Settings ).  Your
Margin settings might not be set to zero.

Doug

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 8:00 AM Caroline Tabach 
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> Hi
> Frame 2017
> publishing to HTML 5
>
> graphics are in anchored frame in a left justified format
>
> In one chapter some of the graphics are in conditional text.
> These graphics are centered in the help file, even though i have the same
> format etc
>
> Any idea why or how this can be fixed?
>
> thanks
>
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[Framers] Find/Change history

[Doug]

I'm using the Find/Change dialog to search for markers.  I select Marker -
Of Type: and then click the down arrow at the end of the blank field below
that.  I'm presented with a history of my searches.

Is there a way to clear this history?

Thanks!

Doug
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[Framers] File storage best practice

[Doug]

I'm facing the challenge of organizing the file structure of dozens of
documents and their respective imported graphics.  What's are the best
practices in this regard?  I'm inclined to maintain an Images folder with
separate sub-folders for each document's graphics, and another sub-folder
for graphics that are common to multiple documents.

Where I worked before we stored images in a sub-folder below the document's
FM folder, but I'm leaning away from that approach since it complicates
things when you are scanning images outside of Frame.  And other reasons,
of course.

Thanks,

Doug
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[Framers] An easy one

[Doug]

Take an existing multi-page document that contains only Right and Left
master pages.

1. View the Master Pages.
2. Add a new text frame to one master page and give it a unique flow tag
(let's say ZZ), and mark the Autoconnect checkbox.
3. Add a new text frame to the other master page and give it the same flow
tag (ZZ in this case), and mark the Autoconnect checkbox.
4.  View Body pages and add text to the new ZZ text frame.  Add enough to
make it add text to the ZZ frame in the next page.

When I do this, Frame inserts new blank pages to house the overflowing
text.  I would have thought it would have put the overflowing text into the
ZZ frame on the subsequent existing page.

Even though they are both marked for Autoconnect on the master pages, the
Right and Left ZZ frames appear not to be connected to each other.  This is
unlike the preset A text frames, which definitely have connected Right/Left
text frames.

What I want to do is remove all of my auto-numbered image captions from the
A flow and put them into their own flow.

Ideas?

Thanks!

Doug
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[Framers] Conditional text & publishing to HTML5

[Doug]

I have conditional text in a text frame, and the text frame is inside an
anchored frame.The condition hides the text if I publish to HTML5.  When I
set the book to activate this condition, the text is hidden if I open the
FM document in Frame.  However, when I publish to HTML5 the text is not
hidden in the resulting HTML5 file.  It seems the HTML5 publishing process
ignores conditions if the conditioned text is inside a text frame inside an
anchored frame.

If the text frame is not inside an anchored frame the HTML5 processing
respects the condition and hides/displays it just fine.

Is this a bug?
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Re: [Framers] Spelling bee champs out there?

[Doug]

My Frame 2017 doesn't flag the word height as misspelled.  It did, however,
when I had it in quotes.  Does your Frame flag the word as misspelled even
if it's not in quotes?
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[Framers] Publish to Responsive HTML5

[Doug]

I'm seeing an issue where figures with borders in Frame lose their borders
when I publish to HTML5 format.  A common characteristic of these figures
is in the Facets field, on the Object Properties dialog, they have the
following:

FrameVector
PNG

Other figures, which have "PDF" as their only value in the Facet field,
usually have their borders display as expected in HTML5.  Though some lose
their bottom border, for some odd reason.

Ideas?

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Shrinkwrap

[Doug]

Thanks, I'll try Object Styles.

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:34 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> You're maybe thinking of a very old utility called ShrinkWrapAsIs. I'm not
> sure if it's findable anymore, though.
>
> You can also, since FM11, use Object Styles, which work the same as
> Paragraph or Character Styles. Set up one graphic/anchored frame the way
> you want it, define it as an object style, and then apply it every time you
> create a graphic. Not as automatic as ShrinkWrapAsIs, but it'll work with
> both 32- and 64-bit FM, which ShrinkWrapAsIs (if you can find it!) is
> unlikely to do. I think it was created back in FM 5.5.x ...
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:24 AM Doug  wrote:
>
> > When I use the shrinkwrap shortcut, my anchored frames change to At
> > Insertion Point, which hoses their position on the page.  I seem to
> recall
> > that there was a way to customize the shortcut so it would leave the
> > Anchoring Position value unchanged.
> >
> > If I'm not mis-remembering, what is the method?
> >
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[Framers] Shrinkwrap

[Doug]

When I use the shrinkwrap shortcut, my anchored frames change to At
Insertion Point, which hoses their position on the page.  I seem to recall
that there was a way to customize the shortcut so it would leave the
Anchoring Position value unchanged.

If I'm not mis-remembering, what is the method?

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Re: [Framers] Now it's a buggy SVG IMPORT into Frame 2019 files

[Doug]

Could you skip Visio and just add the SnagIt images into Frame, and then
add the callouts and text boxes in Frame?

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 4:37 PM Lin Sims  wrote:

> Some days, it just doesn't pay to get out of bed.
>
> Importing the Visio files using File > Import > File gets the image in
> without the weirdnesses happening with the lines.
>
> But importing the file, even if specified as import by reference, is
> importing by copy with a link to the Visio file, so yes, it updates if the
> Visio source is changed, but the FrameMaker file size is increased
> DRASTICALLY.
>
> I am so FRUSTRATED, I'm about to go back to the FrameMaker 2017
> installation and tell my co-worker we'll just wait for the next 6 months or
> so and see if SVG issues (2 now!) get fixed.
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 4:01 PM Lin Sims  wrote:
>
> > If it's not one thing, it's another.
> >
> > I'm still on Windows 7, so I've continued importing my images into Frame
> > 2017 as SVG files since I have no issues creating PDFs from them.
> >
> > But we've JUST upgraded to Frame 2019, and now the IMPORT of SVG images
> > into Frame has gone screwy. In this case, the images are screenshots
> taken
> > with SnagIt, pasted into Visio where graphic callouts and a text box
> > containing the graphic's number is added, and exported to SVG.
> >
> > When the resulting SVG is imported into FrameMaker, all the callouts and
> > the graphic's number MOVE, either to the right (in the case of the
> > callouts) or to the left (in the case of the text box containing the
> > graphic's number).
> >
> > For now, I'm giving up on SVGs and we're just going to import Visio
> files,
> > since that doesn't appear to have any problems. I have non-proprietary
> > examples of the issue (as JPG images) for those interested in a look. I'm
> > not attaching them because I can't remember if the list software scrapes
> > attachments off or not. I've also posted a query in the Adobe FrameMaker
> > forum. I'm still debating whether to file a bug report. .
> >
> > Weekend, here I come.
> >
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Re: [Framers] "-1" tooltip is displayed on some FrameMaker 14 [2017 release] dialogs

[Doug]

OK, I see it now, thanks.


On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:59 AM Lin Sims  wrote:

> I see them, too.
>
> Doug, are you hovering over the drop-down menus in the right panel, or are
> you hovering over the word General or Interface in the menu panel? There
> aren't any tooltips for the tree, just for the options to the right.
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 7:16 AM Rick Quatro  wrote:
>
> > Yes, still there.
> >
> > Rick Quatro
> > Carmen Publishing Inc.
> > r...@frameexpert.com
> > 585-729-6746 NEW!
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers 
> > On
> > Behalf Of Simon BUCH
> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:45 AM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > 
> > Subject: [Framers] "-1" tooltip is displayed on some FrameMaker 14 [2017
> > release] dialogs
> >
> >
> > I was in the process of making some screenshots for a product release
> when
> > I
> > happened to find an odd behaviour in FrameMaker 14.0.3.500 [2017
> release].
> >
> > If you select Edit > Preferences menu item, and mouse over the drop-down
> > list UI components on the Global > General, or Global > Interface
> panels, a
> > "-1" tooltip is displayed.
> >
> > Can anyone try this on FM 15 [2019 release] ?
> >
> > // Simon BUCH
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Framers] "-1" tooltip is displayed on some FrameMaker 14 [2017 release] dialogs

[Doug]

Running FM 2017 here, I don't see any tooltips at all.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 6:54 AM Simon BUCH  wrote:

>
> I was in the process of making some screenshots for a product release
> when I happened to find an odd behaviour in FrameMaker 14.0.3.500 [2017
> release].
>
> If you select Edit > Preferences menu item, and mouse over the drop-down
> list UI components on the Global > General, or Global > Interface
> panels, a "-1" tooltip is displayed.
>
> Can anyone try this on FM 15 [2019 release] ?
>
> // Simon BUCH
>
>
>
>
>
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