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[Framers] Shortcuts not working

2019-11-05 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi -

Yesterday, the Function keys I use most often (F8, F9) stopped working. So did
CTRL-8 and CTRL-9, and some other Function and CTRL keys as well. I'm on
FrameMaker 17 (unstructured), Windows 7. There have been no changes to my
system or installation. I've tried restarting FrameMaker and the computer.

Any suggestions?

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Re: [Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the beginning of a text flow

2019-07-25 Thread Pat Christenson

If it's a unique paragraph tag used only at the start of a flow/frame, I've 
used an empty reference frame above the paragraph (the Advanced page of the 
Paragraph Designer). It's a more flexible solution than a master page (IMO).

Pat Christenson

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the 
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[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

What you describe is the way Frame works. Space above is always ignored for a 
paragraph that falls at the top of a frame.



The best approach is to add a special master page for the first page of a 
chapter that has a text frame that starts lower on the page. Inserting blank 
paragraphs is almost never an optimal solution for vertical spacing issues. The 
only time I use a paragraph that contains no text is to hold the anchor for an 
inserted object (e.g. a table, an anchored frame, a text inset).



-FR





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Subject: [Framers] Leading white space for paragraph formats at the beginning 
of a text flow



Hi everyone,



I've come across this strange behavior of Frame where if I insert a paragraph 
at the beginning of a text flow, Space Before does not seem to be taken into 
account. I have to use empty carriage returns to create white space before a 
major heading at the beginning of a flow, for example. Am I missing something? 
As always grateful for any help received.



Best,

Peter

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[Framers] A few questions about FrameMaker 2019

2018-12-06 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi -

I'm doing some research on the "new" and "improved" features in FM 2019. We 
haven't purchased or downloaded a trial so I'm limited to the information I 
find online. Adobe lists features that I can't find any information on (at 
least, not using the terminology in their announcements) in the 2019 Help or 
User Guide, so I hope someone in the group can clarify these.


  *   Add/delete workspace menus: Can you actually delete (or hide) menus or is 
this just the custom workspace function from 2017? Is there anything 
new/notable about it?
  *   Enhanced mini-TOC: How is it enhanced?
  *   Resize pods: 2017 lets me resize pods now. What's new here?
  *   Smart filters in pods: What is this?
  *   From the Update 1 information, it appears the PDF generation function has 
been fixed and the app now scales across monitors. Have you found this to be 
true?

Thanks.


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Re: [Framers] Formatting tables

2018-09-25 Thread Pat Christenson

There is a double "dotted" line used in tables in a template that I inherited.

If you open Custom Ruling & Shading and click Edit Ruling Style, you can create 
a new or edit an existing style. In this template, the Color is Black, the Pen 
Pattern is 30%, the Width is 0.5 pt and Double-Gap is 2.0. I think the Pen 
Pattern is what does the trick

Pat Christenson

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:05 AM
To: Frame Users 
Subject: Re: [Framers] Formatting tables

You know, I don't think I've ever noticed before that you can't use dotted or 
dashed lines for column or row borders. I guess because I never had a need to. 
Interesting.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:20 AM Doug  wrote:

> Err, that appeared to do it on-screen, but when I print, the lines are 
> solid.
>
> The only configurable settings for Ruling Styles are color, width, and 
> pen pattern, which is merely a percentage.  That just fades the 
> intensity of the color.  That's not a "pattern", I don't think.
>
> None of the pre-designed formats use dashed lines either.
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Doug  wrote:
> > That did it.  Thanks!
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Rick Quatro 
> wrote:
> >> Table ruling are based on Ruling Styles. To create new Ruling 
> >> Styles,
> choose
> >> Table > Format > Custom Ruling & Shading. Click the Edit Ruling 
> >> Style
> button
> >> and you will be able to edit and create Ruling Styles.
> >>
> >> Rick Quatro
> >> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> >> r...@frameexpert.com
> >> 585-729-6746 NEW!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
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> >> 
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> >> Behalf Of Doug
> >> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 11:55 AM
> >> To: Framers 
> >> Subject: [Framers] Formatting tables
> >>
> >> Will Frame let me format a table so it has solid column lines but
> dashed row
> >> lines?  I'm not seeing anything that would let me make this, like 
> >> how
> it can
> >> be done in Word.
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Re: [Framers] Override default CSS created during conversion to Basic HTML

2018-06-28 Thread Pat Christenson

I found it can do it super-fast with NotePad++ (free download). What a 
time-saver!

Thanks.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Override default CSS created during conversion to Basic 
HTML

Write a script to change the CSS references in all the HTML files at once. Or 
use Funduc Search and Replace for Windows.

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 10:54 AM, Pat Christenson 
 wrote:
> The Manage CSS options are Import and Export. I can import the remote CSS but 
> it still creates a locate CSS, using the content of the remote one.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
>  
> On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 12:47 PM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 
> 
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Override default CSS created during conversion 
> to Basic HTML
>
> The Manage CSS dialog is supposed to allow you to specify an external CSS 
> file.
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Pat Christenson 
>  wrote:
>> FrameMaker 2017, Windows
>>
>> I have 100+ FrameMaker files in a book to convert to individual Basic HTML 
>> files. Everything is going well, except for one thing.
>>
>> The HTML files will be uploaded to a server, which is where the Official, 
>> Approved CSS file resides. The problem is when I publish the book, 
>> FrameMaker creates a CSS file on my system that each of the HTML files is 
>> linked to. I cannot find a way to replace that link in the files with a link 
>> to the CSS on the server.
>>
>> Manually fixing it in each file is not a practical option; these will be 
>> occasionally updated and I need to automate this.
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Re: [Framers] Override default CSS created during conversion to Basic HTML

2018-06-28 Thread Pat Christenson

The Manage CSS options are Import and Export. I can import the remote CSS but 
it still creates a locate CSS, using the content of the remote one.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Override default CSS created during conversion to Basic 
HTML

The Manage CSS dialog is supposed to allow you to specify an external CSS file.

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Pat Christenson 
 wrote:
> FrameMaker 2017, Windows
>
> I have 100+ FrameMaker files in a book to convert to individual Basic HTML 
> files. Everything is going well, except for one thing.
>
> The HTML files will be uploaded to a server, which is where the Official, 
> Approved CSS file resides. The problem is when I publish the book, FrameMaker 
> creates a CSS file on my system that each of the HTML files is linked to. I 
> cannot find a way to replace that link in the files with a link to the CSS on 
> the server.
>
> Manually fixing it in each file is not a practical option; these will be 
> occasionally updated and I need to automate this.
>
> Any help?
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[Framers] Override default CSS created during conversion to Basic HTML

2018-06-28 Thread Pat Christenson

FrameMaker 2017, Windows

I have 100+ FrameMaker files in a book to convert to individual Basic HTML 
files. Everything is going well, except for one thing.

The HTML files will be uploaded to a server, which is where the Official, 
Approved CSS file resides. The problem is when I publish the book, FrameMaker 
creates a CSS file on my system that each of the HTML files is linked to. I 
cannot find a way to replace that link in the files with a link to the CSS on 
the server.

Manually fixing it in each file is not a practical option; these will be 
occasionally updated and I need to automate this.

Any help?


Pat Christenson
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Morningstar, Inc.
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Re: [Framers] Pull imported graphics into one folder

2018-06-22 Thread Pat Christenson

Wait! One more question. Do I need to have ExtendScript to run this?

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Pull imported graphics into one folder
Importance: High

Hi Pat,

My ArchiveES program will take a book and archive all of the FrameMaker files 
into a single folder, and the graphics into a Graphics subfolder at the 
archived book's folder. Any text insets will be put in a TextInsets subfolder. 
It updates all of the internal links for the new locations of the graphics and 
text insets.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameexpert.com_store=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=5GYGdNMSBrJ-L4RsCpgcmOFpucftVJiFQ5GIDHwNzWo=f3nGPSxRfd8YHM2Wi5yEP5lOFXIHAr2ZLHSlpaRhIX0=

In your scenario, you would want to let ArchiveES actually copy the FrameMaker 
book and documents and graphics, instead of you moving them ahead of time. If 
you want a walkthrough of this, please let me know. Thanks.

Rick

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-Original Message-
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Subject: [Framers] Pull imported graphics into one folder

Hi -

I need to consolidate several manuals, each of which has many imported graphics 
that are in a folder in the manual's folder. Once I've brought all the 
non-image material together into a folder, is there a way to copy images from 
their original location into the new folder? I had hopes Package might do it 
but it skips graphics that aren't already in the folder.

The images still display in the new combined manual but our directories are 
rather messy, with people tending to rename folders and I have no faith that 
those links will remain valid indefinitely.

I've already been shot down on using copied instead of imported images because 
there is a lot of consolidation to be done, so please don't suggest that.

Thanks in advance for any help.

I'm using FrameMaker 2017 on Windows 7.

Pat Christenson
Senior Technical Writer, Client Education Morningstar, Inc.
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Re: [Framers] Pull imported graphics into one folder

2018-06-22 Thread Pat Christenson

Rick, you are a lifesaver! I remember using Bruce's plugin.

I'm purchasing now. Is it possible to get this today/tonight?

Pat

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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 3:03 PM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' 

Subject: Re: [Framers] Pull imported graphics into one folder
Importance: High

Hi Pat,

My ArchiveES program will take a book and archive all of the FrameMaker files 
into a single folder, and the graphics into a Graphics subfolder at the 
archived book's folder. Any text insets will be put in a TextInsets subfolder. 
It updates all of the internal links for the new locations of the graphics and 
text insets.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.frameexpert.com_store=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=5GYGdNMSBrJ-L4RsCpgcmOFpucftVJiFQ5GIDHwNzWo=f3nGPSxRfd8YHM2Wi5yEP5lOFXIHAr2ZLHSlpaRhIX0=

In your scenario, you would want to let ArchiveES actually copy the FrameMaker 
book and documents and graphics, instead of you moving them ahead of time. If 
you want a walkthrough of this, please let me know. Thanks.

Rick

Rick Quatro
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r...@frameexpert.com
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-Original Message-
From: Framers  On 
Behalf Of Pat Christenson
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 3:41 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: [Framers] Pull imported graphics into one folder

Hi -

I need to consolidate several manuals, each of which has many imported graphics 
that are in a folder in the manual's folder. Once I've brought all the 
non-image material together into a folder, is there a way to copy images from 
their original location into the new folder? I had hopes Package might do it 
but it skips graphics that aren't already in the folder.

The images still display in the new combined manual but our directories are 
rather messy, with people tending to rename folders and I have no faith that 
those links will remain valid indefinitely.

I've already been shot down on using copied instead of imported images because 
there is a lot of consolidation to be done, so please don't suggest that.

Thanks in advance for any help.

I'm using FrameMaker 2017 on Windows 7.


Pat Christenson
Senior Technical Writer, Client Education Morningstar, Inc.
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[Framers] Pull imported graphics into one folder

2018-06-22 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi -

I need to consolidate several manuals, each of which has many imported graphics 
that are in a folder in the manual's folder. Once I've brought all the 
non-image material together into a folder, is there a way to copy images from 
their original location into the new folder? I had hopes Package might do it 
but it skips graphics that aren't already in the folder.

The images still display in the new combined manual but our directories are 
rather messy, with people tending to rename folders and I have no faith that 
those links will remain valid indefinitely.

I've already been shot down on using copied instead of imported images because 
there is a lot of consolidation to be done, so please don't suggest that.

Thanks in advance for any help.

I'm using FrameMaker 2017 on Windows 7.


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Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
Morningstar, Inc.
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Re: [Framers] Non-breaking en, em dashes

2018-06-07 Thread Pat Christenson

Go to Format > Document > Text Options.

In Allow Breaks After, the four characters (default) are slash, hyphen, en 
dash, and em dash. Delete the ones you don't want and click Apply.

Pat

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Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 9:33 PM
To: Frame Users 
Subject: [Framers] Non-breaking en, em dashes

Used to be if you put an en dash in front of something with no space between, 
the en dash would stick to the something if it wrapped to the next line.

It doesn't do that anymore, which is bad for me as I use it instead of a hyphen 
to indicate negative numbers. This has been reported as a bug to Adobe, but 
until they fix it (soon? please?), is there a *trivial *solution/workaround?
(By trivial, I mean minimal number of steps and time involved.)

For those interested, the bug is here:
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forums.adobe.com_thread_2459590=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=wS8Uzgp26eH0sGxyH-wptBNm9fq7MFGbEWHPSv4aYQc=92p1y35BDyREoi_33E-4NFXP2QtoojAB7Nvn5R4ZDbU=

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Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

2018-04-16 Thread Pat Christenson

I've interviewed a few people for such a position in the past. Here's what has 
worked for me.

- Basic questions, such as How long have you  used FrameMaker? What is the 
latest version you've used? What's the largest number of FM users you've 
supported? What types of documents/books (financial, medical, etc.) have you 
supported?

- Ask them to describe a complex template (book preferably) they've built. 

- Ask them to send that template to you. (They may not be able to because of 
company rules. In that case, ask if they can send a different template.)

- Ask them to describe a FrameMaker challenge and how they handled it.

- Ask them to describe a creative solution or workaround in FrameMaker they've 
developed.

- Describe a real-life FrameMaker problem/challenge you've faced and ask how 
they would handle it.

These last two sound pretty basic but you can learn quite a bit about their 
experience level from the answers:

- What is your favorite feature in FrameMaker (or favorite thing about 
FrameMaker templates)?

- What features would you add to FrameMaker? (I've found this is a better 
question than "What would you change?")

I've been very pleased with the hires I've made or recommended using questions 
such as these. I've never administered an actual test.

I hope you will share what you come up with. Good luck!

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] How do you identify an advanced Framemaker user?

At 10:31 -0600 15/4/18, Carol J. Elkins wrote:

>Over the next couple of years, I need to help my major client find and train 
>an in-house replacement for me as I wind down my freelance practice. They will 
>not consider an independent contractor next time, so it may be harder to 
>recruit and identify someone with the required skills. I've built 20 years of 
>documentation for this client in unstructured Framemaker, and managing these 
>thousands of documents and books depends less on someone being a good 
>technical writer than being an excellent Framemaker user.
>
>For those of you who are corporate employers, I'd like to know how you screen 
>candidates to identify those who truly are advanced Framemaker users.

I write here as a recipient of such a test, so apols because I'm not a 
corporate recruiter/test administerer. It was for a contract with a well-known 
London-based financial business, many years ago.

The test consisted of a number of unstructured FrameMaker tasks of increasing 
difficulty, done against the clock. At that time I considered myself to be an 
advanced FrameMaker user, but wasn't ;-) Nevertheless, I completed all the 
items in the test, which took about thirty minutes, successfully. I'm afraid I 
cannot remember now what the tasks were, but I'm sure you could easily make 
your own up.

At the end I was told that I'd done the test in the shortest time ever. Didn't 
get the contract, though, as another guy did almost as well and didn't have to 
commute/work remotely :-(

To build on what Robert suggested, how about asking candidates to build a 
folksy template from scratch, and devilishly include a couple of things that 
you cannot do with FrameMaker (there must still be some)? That way you get a 
good idea of their competence *and* incorporate the performance under stress 
and key-marks in the forehead stuff. And if that works out, then ask them how 
they'd adapt it for multi-platform delivery ;-)

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker crash while working in tables

2018-03-16 Thread Pat Christenson

No and no. These are very vanilla tables.

Pat

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com> On 
Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker crash while working in tables

Hi Pat,

Do the tables have conditional rows in them? Did they originate from Word 
documents?

Rick

Rick Quatro
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r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 3:38 PM
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Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker crash while working in tables

For about a week or so, FrameMaker crashes when I'm working in a table (not the 
same table; any table). When I relaunch, the same thing happens. I've saved to 
MIF and opened that and that usually fixed the "corruption" (for lack of a 
better term), at least for that table. Sometimes I need to restart my system to 
get FM to launch again.

Has anyone else experienced this?

I'm on FM 2017, 14.0.3.500, Windows 10.

Any help will be appreciated.

I hope FM doesn't need to be reinstalled because I would have to leave my 
computer with them.


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[Framers] FrameMaker crash while working in tables

2018-03-15 Thread Pat Christenson

For about a week or so, FrameMaker crashes when I'm working in a table (not the 
same table; any table). When I relaunch, the same thing happens. I've saved to 
MIF and opened that and that usually fixed the "corruption" (for lack of a 
better term), at least for that table. Sometimes I need to restart my system to 
get FM to launch again.

Has anyone else experienced this?

I'm on FM 2017, 14.0.3.500, Windows 10.

Any help will be appreciated.

I hope FM doesn't need to be reinstalled because I would have to leave my 
computer with them.


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Re: [Framers] Resolution (dpi) incorrect in Fm 2017

2018-01-29 Thread Pat Christenson

I have seen it, but not consistently. I don't know what causes it.

Pat Christenson

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Subject: [Framers] Resolution (dpi) incorrect in Fm 2017

Hi all

I'm using FrameMaker 2017 all patched up (14.0.3). I import an png image (a 
screen shot at 96 dpi) and I select 150 dpi in the "Imported Graphic Scaling" 
dialog. However, this doesn't seem to work: the image is scaled to 1.04% of its 
original size and the dpi is "unknown" in the Object Properties dialog panel 
pod thing even though I didn't scale the image by dragging one of its corners.

Has anyone else seen this bug?

Cheers

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Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

2018-01-29 Thread Pat Christenson

I have occasionally found "missing fonts" lurking in a table definition. If you 
delete Format A and Format B, or replace and delete their default paragraph 
formats, the table and paragraph formats are still hanging around (in "deep 
cover"). I've been able to correct it in MIF.

Hope this helps,
Pat Christenson

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Subject: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

I'm trying to do something that is seemingly simple...use the Remember Missing 
Font Names preference to get rid of missing font messages.
Here's what I've done:   
   - Launch Framemaker.
   - Select File > Preferences > General.
   - Deselect Remember Missing Font Names.
   - Open, save, and close the affected file.
The next time I open the file, the messages should be gone. However, the same 
missing font message is displayed.
In the MIF file, I don't find any mention of the missing font. The List of 
Fonts in one file doesn't list the font at all. And searching for the font 
doesn't help.
What am I doing wrong? I know this is a perennial issue in FrameMaker.
Catherine
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[Framers] Style mapping: Word to FrameMaker 2017

2017-12-11 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi all -

If you're importing a Word document into FrameMaker 2017, is there a way to 
disable the feature that adds unmapped formats to the FrameMaker paragraph, 
character, and table catalogs?

Thanks.


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Re: [Framers] Linking to a LAN Shared Drive

2017-10-06 Thread Pat Christenson

It interprets \d or \D as a special character. To actually get "d" into the 
URL, change it to \\d or \\D. I ran into this just the other day.

Pat Christenson

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Hi  Guys…something odd.

In the Hypertext dialog box with command Go to URL, I enter

message URL File:///\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\CORP\MANY\DEPTDATA\\xxx_Reference.pdf

When I click the button, it converts to:

message URL File:///\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\CORP\smANY‡EPTDATA\\xxx_Reference.pdf

What’s with …CORP\smANY‡EPTDATA… and how do I prevent it from altering what I’m 
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Re: [Framers] Link to a specific page in a PDF?

2017-10-03 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks, Gayle! That works perfectly in the Go to URL hypertext link.

Thanks for everyone who responded.

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Link to a specific page in a PDF?

To target an HTML link to a specific page in a PDF file, add "#page=[page 
number]" to the end of the link's URL.

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Subject: [Framers] Link to a specific page in a PDF?

Hi -

Is there a way in FrameMaker to link to a specific page in a PDF? The pdf 
already exists and has been posted so I can't use named destination.

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[Framers] Link to a specific page in a PDF?

2017-10-03 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi -

Is there a way in FrameMaker to link to a specific page in a PDF? The pdf 
already exists and has been posted so I can't use named destination.

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Re: [Framers] Old FrameMaker books?

2017-10-02 Thread Pat Christenson

With 5.5, Adobe decided they weren't going to supply full documentation, i.e., 
"teach you how to use the software."

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Old FrameMaker books?

Is the index in the 5.5 book really better than the one in the 6.0 book?

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:01 PM, David Spreadbury  wrote:
>
> Scott,You might want to hang onto that 5.5 book. Once Adobe started creating 
> the documentation the Index started going downhill, when compared to the 
> original Frame issued books. The original Index was actual usefulI wouldn't 
> part with mine unless I had to.
>
>
> On Monday, October 2, 2017 1:54 PM, Scott Prentice  
> wrote:
>
>
>  Hi...
>
> I hate to pitch (recycle) this stuff if it's of any use to anyone.
>
> User Guides for FM 7.0, FM 6.0, FM+SGML 6.0, and FM 5.5. All basically 
> new and some still in plastic.
>
> Contact me off list if you'd like any or all of these.
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Re: [Framers] Old FrameMaker books?

2017-10-02 Thread Pat Christenson

Agreed.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Old FrameMaker books?

Scott,You might want to hang onto that 5.5 book. Once Adobe started creating 
the documentation the Index started going downhill, when compared to the 
original Frame issued books. The original Index was actual usefulI wouldn't 
part with mine unless I had to.
 

On Monday, October 2, 2017 1:54 PM, Scott Prentice  
wrote:
 

 Hi...

I hate to pitch (recycle) this stuff if it's of any use to anyone.

User Guides for FM 7.0, FM 6.0, FM+SGML 6.0, and FM 5.5. All basically new and 
some still in plastic.

Contact me off list if you'd like any or all of these.

Cheers,
...scott


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Re: [Framers] OT: Friday Funnies

2017-09-22 Thread Pat Christenson

Great!

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Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Friday Funnies

Today it would be:

"There is not enough budget to do a useful index, so look carefully through the 
entire document."

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Subject: [Framers] OT: Friday Funnies

So, an excerpt from the introduction to the Sears, Roebuck and Company 
catalogue, 1897:

 

"If you don't find it in the index, look very carefully through the entire 
catalogue."

 

Wonder how that would go over in today's writing world? Think I should preface 
all my indices with this disclaimer? 

 

TGIF,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

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Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

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Re: [Framers] Problems in multiple flows?

2017-09-06 Thread Pat Christenson

Main text (flow A) and sidebar (flow B). Ideally, neither should run over to a 
second page, but this will be a multi-page document.

Is that's the intended behavior, it sucks. Why would I want an auto-connected 
flow to disconnect itself?

Pat

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Hi Pat,

I am pretty sure that is how it works when you have multiple flows. What are 
you using the second flow for? Thanks.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Problems in multiple flows?

I'm building a template that has 2 flows (A and B). Each flow appears on every 
page and I've checked that Autoconnect is enabled in text frames on master and 
body pages. The problem is when one flow overflows and creates new page, the 
other flow is disconnected from its flow on the new page.

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[Framers] Problems in multiple flows?

2017-09-06 Thread Pat Christenson

I'm building a template that has 2 flows (A and B). Each flow appears on every 
page and I've checked that Autoconnect is enabled in text frames on master and 
body pages. The problem is when one flow overflows and creates new page, the 
other flow is disconnected from its flow on the new page.

FrameMaker 2017, Windows.

Any help will be appreciated.


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Re: [Framers] Import workspace?

2017-08-07 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks.

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Import workspace?

Hi, 

If you are upgrading from a version prior to FM2015, the workspaces are now 
buried in a subdirectory:

version 11 \Workspaces\Structured
version 2015 and 2017 \Workspaces\Structured\WYSIWYGView

Hope this helps

Cheers,

Caroline

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Hi -

We are finally upgrading to Frame 2017.

Is there a way to import our custom workspaces? Thanks.


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[Framers] SOLVED RE: Import workspace?

2017-08-02 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks for the great suggestion to create a workspace and see what happens, 
Rick. I didn't even have to look at the XML.

In FrameMaker 2017, the custom workspace files have the extension .fws (not 
.cfws).

Pat

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Hi Pat,

It could be that the file format has changed a bit between versions. Try 
creating a custom workspace in FrameMaker 2017 and then examine it with a text 
editor. You may be able to see if something has changed in the content of the 
XML file.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Import workspace?

Hi Rick -

I found some info online and you have it right (for the most part). But my 
custom workspaces still don't show up. I've tried restarting FrameMaker. Now 
I'll try restarting Windows.

Thanks -

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Import workspace?

Hi Pat,

The short answer is that I don't know for sure, BUT: workspace files are XML 
files, so you should be able to get them from your current installation and 
copy them to the new installation. They are located at

C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\\WorkSpa
ces

where  is your Windows login name and  is the 
FrameMaker version number. The workspace files have .cfws extension on them, 
but they are simply XML files.

Klause Daube may have more information about workspace files:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__daube.ch_docu_fmaker00.h
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Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Import workspace?

Hi -

We are finally upgrading to Frame 2017.

Is there a way to import our custom workspaces? Thanks.


Pat Christenson
Senior Technical Writer, Client Education Morningstar, Inc.
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Re: [Framers] Import workspace?

2017-08-02 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi Rick -

I found some info online and you have it right (for the most part). But my 
custom workspaces still don't show up. I've tried restarting FrameMaker. Now 
I'll try restarting Windows.

Thanks -

Pat

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From: Framers 
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On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Import workspace?

Hi Pat,

The short answer is that I don't know for sure, BUT: workspace files are XML 
files, so you should be able to get them from your current installation and 
copy them to the new installation. They are located at

C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\\WorkSpa
ces

where  is your Windows login name and  is the 
FrameMaker version number. The workspace files have .cfws extension on them, 
but they are simply XML files.

Klause Daube may have more information about workspace files:

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__daube.ch_docu_fmaker00.html=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=VhNeXa7aaohi2Xjqr8URdwlr_i1HeVGOHvXKr6nOXyk=i5gh63Yx4rQ4Ri1R0181wZz07bj7rb5vW2U6SxtW3wU=
 

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Import workspace?

Hi -

We are finally upgrading to Frame 2017.

Is there a way to import our custom workspaces? Thanks.


Pat Christenson
Senior Technical Writer, Client Education Morningstar, Inc.
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[Framers] Import workspace?

2017-08-02 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi -

We are finally upgrading to Frame 2017.

Is there a way to import our custom workspaces? Thanks.


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Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

2017-07-13 Thread Pat Christenson

Thank you, everyone who responded. As usual, the group membership's knowledge 
and experience, as well as willingness to share, is invaluable.

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

As I said in the saveAs Mif Re: Framemaker 2017 save backwards topic, I have a 
FrameScript that saves to MIF8, MIF10, MIF11, and MIF12, as well as to FM8, 10, 
and 11. I think it's based on one of the example scripts Rick shared a few 
years back, although I've expanded it to additional MIF formats. It adds a 
drop-down to the menu bar that works with both books and individual files, and 
I can share it. (And yes, I asked Rick about that a couple years back and he 
was okay with me sharing it.)

On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Art Campbell <art.campb...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> To follow the KISS principle:
>
>- If someone on '17 saves as either flavor of MIF, the file that is
>created is backward compatible with earlier revs.
>- All features not supported in the earlier revs are discarded.
>
> So AFAIK, there is no reason to make your new employee jump through 
> hoops
> -- just do the Save as MIF when she needs to export something for a 
> team share.
>
> If y'all do FrameScript, you could run up a script that works on 
> files, book contents, or directories to convert all FM 17 files to MIF 
> like once a day, at the end of the day and write the files to a 
> subdirectory or other location.
>
>
>
>
> Art Campbell
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>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 
> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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>            DoD 358
>
>
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>
> > Hi -
> >
> > We have a new employee and her FrameMaker license is for 2017. The 
> > rest
> of
> > us are on FM 12 but will be upgrading, although I don't know when.
> >
> > I looked at the 2017 user guide and it says you can save as 2015. It 
> > doesn't mention 2012. I just want to verify this with the group 
> > before I write up instructions for our new user.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Pat Christenson
> > Senior Technical Writer, Client Education Morningstar, Inc.
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Re: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

2017-07-12 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks, Bernard. I wanted to be sure before I document Save as MIF. Hopefully, 
it won't be long before we are all using the same version.

Pat

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You can save as MIF 7.0 (*.mif) but some functions or content may change on the 
way out. Best to do a test run. However, you can open with FM12 once you do 
this. Your mileage may vary though depending on what you have in the files.

Bernard



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Subject: [Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

Hi -

We have a new employee and her FrameMaker license is for 2017. The rest of us 
are on FM 12 but will be upgrading, although I don't know when.

I looked at the 2017 user guide and it says you can save as 2015. It doesn't 
mention 2012. I just want to verify this with the group before I write up 
instructions for our new user.

Thanks.


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[Framers] Framemaker 2017 save backwards

2017-07-12 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi -

We have a new employee and her FrameMaker license is for 2017. The rest of us 
are on FM 12 but will be upgrading, although I don't know when.

I looked at the 2017 user guide and it says you can save as 2015. It doesn't 
mention 2012. I just want to verify this with the group before I write up 
instructions for our new user.

Thanks.


Pat Christenson
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Morningstar, Inc.
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Re: [Framers] Search for text + tag?

2017-06-21 Thread Pat Christenson

That will paste the phrase, not the paragraph tag.

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This should be simple using plain old search/replace. Modify the first instance 
of the phrase to use the new paragraph tag, and then copy that phrase. Search 
for the phrase and change by pasting. Use the pull-down to see the "By pasting" 
option for changing. And, use Change All to make this painless.

-Becky

Hello Framers,

I want to change all instances of a phrase using one paragraph tag to another 
tag. I do not want to change all instances of the phrase (it occurs using other 
tags), nor replace the current tag with the new tag (both tags remain in use). 
The target phrase-tag combo occurs hundreds of times. Is this possible through 
find/change or another automated method? Using FM 11.

Thanks very much,

Karen
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Re: [Framers] Search for text + tag?

2017-06-20 Thread Pat Christenson

This is kind of a kluge and I haven't had time to test it but it might work. I 
suggest making a copy of your doc first.

1. Find an instance of the string (I'll use abcd for this sample) in a 
paragraph that you want to change.
2. Assuming the paragraph tag has unique font properties, copy abcd in that 
paragraph. ***This won't work if the font properties of this paragraph tag are 
the same as another paragraph tag used in the document.***
3. Set Find to Text & Character Formats on Clipboard.
4. Set Change to Text: abcd (be sure to include the "dummy" characters so 
the changes are easily differentiated from just "abcd")
5. Change All.
6. Find (or create) a paragraph using the format you want to change to.
7. Copy Special - Paragraph Format.
8. Set Find to Text: abcd
9. Set Change to By Pasting.
10. Change All.
11. Set Find to Text: 
12. Set Change to Text and make sure there's nothing in the Change field.
13. Change All.

Let me know if this works, please!

Pat
-Original Message-
From: Framers 
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On Behalf Of Paquet, Becky [US] (MS)
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 3:43 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Search for text + tag?

This should be simple using plain old search/replace. Modify the first instance 
of the phrase to use the new paragraph tag, and then copy that phrase. Search 
for the phrase and change by pasting. Use the pull-down to see the "By pasting" 
option for changing. And, use Change All to make this painless.

-Becky


Hello Framers,

I want to change all instances of a phrase using one paragraph tag to another 
tag. I do not want to change all instances of the phrase (it occurs using other 
tags), nor replace the current tag with the new tag (both tags remain in use). 
The target phrase-tag combo occurs hundreds of times. Is this possible through 
find/change or another automated method? Using FM 11.

Thanks very much,

Karen
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Re: [Framers] Search for text + tag?

2017-06-20 Thread Pat Christenson

I wouldn't use Change All if Becky only wants to change it in certain instances.

Pat Christenson

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From: Framers 
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On Behalf Of Paquet, Becky [US] (MS)
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 3:43 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Search for text + tag?

This should be simple using plain old search/replace. Modify the first instance 
of the phrase to use the new paragraph tag, and then copy that phrase. Search 
for the phrase and change by pasting. Use the pull-down to see the "By pasting" 
option for changing. And, use Change All to make this painless.

-Becky

Hello Framers,

I want to change all instances of a phrase using one paragraph tag to another 
tag. I do not want to change all instances of the phrase (it occurs using other 
tags), nor replace the current tag with the new tag (both tags remain in use). 
The target phrase-tag combo occurs hundreds of times. Is this possible through 
find/change or another automated method? Using FM 11.

Thanks very much,

Karen
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Re: [Framers] View Text Symbols acting weird

2017-05-22 Thread Pat Christenson

I'll be interested to hear the answer to this. I've seen something similar on 
occasion.

Pat Christenson

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On Behalf Of David Hottman
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 4:32 PM
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Subject: [Framers] View Text Symbols acting weird

The organization that I work with is in the process of upgrading all of their 
corporate workstations to Windows 10. They are currently using FrameMaker 11. 
They are trying to purchase FrameMaker Release 2017 but that takes a fair 
amount of time.

 

We have installed FrameMaker 11 on two Windows 10 corporate workstations.
When "View Text Symbols" is on, the tab symbol appears to be displayed as a "1" 
and the marker symbol appears to be displayed as a "6". The paragraph symbol 
appears to display normally. This occurs on both workstations. It appears that 
they symbols don't take any space as expected.

 

I have installed FrameMaker 11 on my personal Windows 10 workstation without 
this occurring.

 

Does anyone have any idea what may be causing this?

 

Thank you for any ideas that you may have.

 

David L. Hottman

C: 720-984-4325  T: 303-481-8467 



www.reqexperts.com

 

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Re: [Framers] Full-time Job Opening

2017-05-17 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi Alex -

Is this a contract or full-time position? Onsite or remote?

Thanks.

Pat Christenson

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On Behalf Of Alex Lukes
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:32 PM
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Subject: [Framers] Full-time Job Opening

Framers,

Would anyone be interested in working for Southern California Edison using 
unstructured FrameMaker?

We have a small department that meets the needs of several thousand employees 
with the technical manuals we revise on a monthly basis.

Click SCE Website 
Publications<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.sce.com_wps_portal_home_regulatory_distribution-2Dmanuals_-21ut_p_b1_nZFRb4IwFIV-5FjY9NL5S19ZHIwmDRzTkz6AspWLAbFMW6zH8-5FMD7OMden2-2DTcc7-2DTgwVOsDDyU1fS6tbIevgLmsVR4Duh50YhiwPwnwMWrF-2Do4z06vSDtBXDl-2DXDen4Zw-5FxA-5FQRS-2DLglEZAmLle8TAIrfsMCiMHZntzg9FCorWmOVsZkyE7jME-2DhUdaylbbvTBDb6YDudHwdC1EhzlPVhMNkVeoPTKeOKcgKo5MxFnnuXIw7cQ1NSAlPMU4TCBfoXqpHQZ-2DiR2GPB056BXT0y8-5FDqxlAjhvRmw-5FgP3ev3-5FV74fYNDU18WJ-5F-2DvsHdzu-5FlsXvWQ0m6RNmWLkx-2Dlu2bdcHJCH-2DVigWTOT6SuvgEYWiRz_dl4_d5_L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh_=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=wDbWLlT2WKBWOnV77pHPk4d7Z9Saskv4jFYv1405MTI=onRGEe_L1-eGPktrnyO7Q3gJ4LTAZ1abh9gSMdNsY6A=
 > for a sampling of what we produce. Next, on the web page that comes up, 
click two of the links (ESR and UGS), as shown in the screen capture below.

[cid:image002.png@01D2CF0F.C28BDA10]

Best regards,

Alex Lukes
Communications Specialist
T Standards, Publications, Process Governance & Specifications Engineering & 
Technical Services | Southern California Edison
1 Innovation Way (PIV1), 261F | Pomona, CA 91768
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

2017-05-03 Thread Pat Christenson

Peter, thanks for making me laugh. I'd never heard about the lorem ipsum 
translation.

Pat

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Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 5:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker keyboard shortcuts just stop

So, the ancient recollection of something eating keystrokes was generically on 
the right troubleshooting path. Hooray!

As to other old memories:

FullWrite Professional (a promising feature-filled Mac word processor) had the 
fantastic ability to randomly animate bullet points, so, there was no reason to 
get bored while staring at pages of pithy tech content on screen.
You could just watch and wait for one or more of them to hop around.

Then, there was the post claiming that "lorem ipsum" placeholder text wasn't 
randomly-generated, but was arguably written by indentured scribes, forerunners 
of technical writers, because the translation was something like "we love to 
write and beat ourselves with sticks."

Cheers!

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Ken Poshedly  wrote:

> So all-in-all, it's just Adobe emulating Microsoft.
> (What does he mean by that?) Back in 2006 while I was contracting for 
> an engineering firm and ordered to use only Word "so the engineers 
> could correct my work." (Ptooey!) I remember an incident where I used 
> Word's paragraph tag-method to tag bulleted text.
> I was on page 125 or so, tagged something bullet and voila!, every 
> bullet in the book disappeared, yet all "bulleted text" was still tagged that 
> way.
> I tried everything I knew to fix things but to no avail.
> But, ah, thank heavens for Ctrl-Z. Everything returned, except for the 
> last bullet that I worked on. I don't remember how I "fixed" things 
> that day, but I did post a message on the tech-wrl e-mail list, asking 
> how could Microsoft let this happen.
> The reply / replies were basically, "Because Microsoft CAN (let this
> happen) because it doesn't matter to them since we're just peons."
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 4:21 PM, Robert Lauriston < 
> rob...@lauriston.com> wrote:
>
>
>  It's an artifact of the nonstandard, buggy UI Adobe layered on top of 
> the legacy FrameMaker code in FM9. The API or whatever that transmits 
> the keystrokes from the new layer to the legacy code occasionally 
> stops working.
>
> I've never seen similar behavior in any other application on the 
> half-dozen systems where I've run FM9 or later. I never used anything 
> but a generic keyboard with the default driver.
>
> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Peter Gold 
> 
> wrote:
> > Just a couple of wild thoughts pulled from long-ago experiences:
> >
> > It sounds as if the normal flow of keystrokes is being affected somehow.
> >
> > In the hardware domain, is it possible that there are keyboard 
> > driver issues - updates needed, multiple conflicting keyboards or 
> > other input devices, multiple display screens and associated 
> > drivers? Less exotic, is it possible that the usual physical 
> > keyboard itself has intermittent keys or connections? If it's 
> > wireless, does connecting it with a cable fix the issue? Charging or 
> > replacing its battery? Does the problem persist when substituting a 
> > different keyboard?
> >
> > In the software domain, are there utilities running in background, 
> > like font managers, display customizers, or screen-capture demons?
> >
> > System domain: Does varying the settings for keyboard repeat speed 
> > and other adjustments affect the problem? What about
> trackpad/touchpad/graphics
> > tablet sensitivity settings?
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[Framers] Glossary popups FrameMaker 12 to Responsive HTML

2017-04-11 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi all -

I'm using FrameMaker 12 unstructured.

In a document that will be published as Responsive HTML, I need the user to be 
able to point (or click) at part of a screenshot and a popup opens, explaining 
that feature.

I've tried using the marker types Glossary and GlossaryTerm, and they work fine 
as long as both are in text. But when I create a text frame on top of the 
screenshot in the anchored frame and put the marker in the text frame, it's a 
no-go.

I'm guessing it works when both are in the text because they're in the same 
flow (A:). But FrameMaker won't let me tag the text frame on the screenshot A 
and if I create a text frame outside the anchored frame and tag it A, 
FrameMaker won't let me drag it into the frame.

So long story short, is there a way to get this work? Should I use something 
other than Glossary markers? I've noticed that the Popup marker type is 
available but appears to do nothing and is no longer mentioned in FrameMaker 
Help.

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Re: [Framers] Frame Help files

2017-04-06 Thread Pat Christenson

I'm wondering that, too.

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Subject: [Framers] Frame Help files

Now that we can publish help from within FrameMaker, what do we need Robohelp 
for?

-Gillian
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Re: [Framers] Questions about tech docs in an Agile environment (may be off-topic)

2017-03-09 Thread Pat Christenson

Good question.

We don't expect the users to read the entire document. There's a mini-TOC on 
the first page that lists the product sub-sections and new/enhanced features in 
each. So the expectation is that users will read that and jump to the content 
that applies to them.

But I'm going to find out if we've ever queried them about how they use release 
notes and what they would prefer.

Thanks.

Pat

From: Craig, Alison [mailto:acr...@bkultrasound.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 1:02 PM
To: Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
Subject: RE: [Framers] Questions about tech docs in an Agile environment (may 
be off-topic)

Has anyone actually surveyed your market to ask if any of your clientele 
actually *reads* 30-40 pages of release notes?

My guess is, there's not a chance that most customers even skim them.

Even better than surveying who reads them, survey what your clientele *expect* 
in a release note.

Alison Craig
Technical Documentation Specialist
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Questions about tech docs in an Agile environment (may 
be off-topic)

Thank you all for the information! Naturally, there have been developments here 
since I asked my question.

One of our product teams that is facing a huge push has designed a very simple 
Help system. (This was news to me and my management last Friday!) Their plan is 
for the product managers to write the Help topics, procedures, etc., and I will 
word-smith it. It's all very simple and their first pass doesn't include 
features that you would want in a "real" Help system (links, etc.) but it's a 
start and it's certainly easier than me building from scratch. So we're going 
to do our part and keep pushing for it to grow into something more robust.

I've had a couple meetings about reducing our gigantic monthly release notes on 
the other major product. I want to do a list of new and enhanced features with 
links to the details. I'm also pushing to make the content more focused on 
people who are familiar with the product. (Right now, we approach every topic 
as if the user has never seen it before and IMO, that's not the way to write 
release notes.) The question now is where to store the detailed info and how to 
re-use it in QuickStart guides, etc.

I'm making some progress--I've been asked to do a mockup of a portion of last 
month's release notes in my proposed format.

Someone here asked how much is "a lot"? Last month, the release notes for the 
two major products were 120 pages. It's the largest we've had during my tenure 
but given the way development is going, that could happen again. (Normally it's 
been 30-40 pages, which is still too much.)

I'm certainly facing challenges but that's part of why I came to this company. 
I would like to update this group every now and then on what we're learning and 
how we're handling it.

Thank you again for your thoughtful input!

Pat

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Can you be agile in a heavily regulated industry?

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Re: [Framers] Questions about tech docs in an Agile environment (may be off-topic)

2017-03-07 Thread Pat Christenson

Thank you all for the information! Naturally, there have been developments here 
since I asked my question. 

One of our product teams that is facing a huge push has designed a very simple 
Help system. (This was news to me and my management last Friday!) Their plan is 
for the product managers to write the Help topics, procedures, etc., and I will 
word-smith it. It's all very simple and their first pass doesn't include 
features that you would want in a "real" Help system (links, etc.) but it's a 
start and it's certainly easier than me building from scratch. So we're going 
to do our part and keep pushing for it to grow into something more robust.

I've had a couple meetings about reducing our gigantic monthly release notes on 
the other major product. I want to do a list of new and enhanced features with 
links to the details. I'm also pushing to make the content more focused on 
people who are familiar with the product. (Right now, we approach every topic 
as if the user has never seen it before and IMO, that's not the way to write 
release notes.) The question now is where to store the detailed info and how to 
re-use it in QuickStart guides, etc.  

I'm making some progress--I've been asked to do a mockup of a portion of last 
month's release notes in my proposed format.

Someone here asked how much is "a lot"? Last month, the release notes for the 
two major products were 120 pages. It's the largest we've had during my tenure 
but given the way development is going, that could happen again. (Normally it's 
been 30-40 pages, which is still too much.)

I'm certainly facing challenges but that's part of why I came to this company. 
I would like to update this group every now and then on what we're learning and 
how we're handling it.

Thank you again for your thoughtful input!

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Questions about tech docs in an Agile environment (may 
be off-topic)

Can you be agile in a heavily regulated industry?

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[Framers] Questions about tech docs in an Agile environment (may be off-topic)

2017-02-27 Thread Pat Christenson

My company has a very large suite of products and I'm the only tech writer. 
Software is developed in an agile environment, with some products releasing new 
features every 2 weeks. The largest product updates quarterly. I can easily 
spend almost a month on its release notes. We are using FrameMaker and 
publishing as a PDF.

In addition to keeping up with release notes (which are very detailed, if I 
didn't mention that), I'm supposed to be writing user & admin guides for the 
sub-products. The ones we have are hopelessly out-of-date.

With all this going on, by the time I finish a user guide, it is soon 
out-of-date and there just isn't time to transfer material from release notes 
to the user guide, repaginate, etc. and post it.

My team director and I are trying to come up with a more efficient way of 
getting this information to the user in a timely way and write much, much 
shorter release notes.

At this point, we're leaning towards the following:

  1.  Instead of long, detailed user guides, write shorter QuickStart guides, 
covering the basics. Once the user has absorbed this, they can go to the 
product's searchable Help to find info on a specific topic. (No one reads a 75+ 
page user guide, right? They read enough to get started and then search for 
info as they need it.)
  2.  Make release notes very brief-one or two sentences describing a 
new/enhanced feature and a couple of keywords so they can search the product 
help for the details.

Although several of our products have very basic Help, there is nothing in 
place like we're thinking of.

So long story short:


  *   Are you producing timely documentation within an agile software 
development environment? If so, how and is it working well?
  *   Is anyone doing something like what we're thinking of?
  *   What are your recommendations for tools? FrameMaker-to-Robohelp? Give up 
on Frame and write in Robohelp? Something else?
  *   Can you quickly add new material (topics & steps) to an existing Help 
system?

I developed a couple of Help systems years ago, using FrameMaker and Webworks. 
I'm not sure if that qualifies me as a newbie since so much time has gone by.

I will appreciate ALL your recommendations, whether sent to me privately or 
posted on the list.

P.S. Please don't recommend structure. There's no way we're going down that 
road for only one tech writer.

Pat Christenson

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Re: [Framers] Want to compare Adobe FM2017 with your version? There's a page for that!

2017-02-03 Thread Pat Christenson

Thank you!

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Want to compare Adobe FM2017 with your version? There's 
a page for that!

http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features.html<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.adobe.com_products_framemaker_features.html=DwMFaQ=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=UAidFROCrddzmmAmErJgKcTl74cvq7qxhQSvJMOI48U=H73bb-KYYCK80eBnDWTGMms_mMTJyxfzmFNbhQknVy0=>
Click the "Compare Older Versions" to download the PDF, which does have the 
same URL Bernard posted.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:49 PM, Pat Christenson 
<pat.christen...@morningstar.com<mailto:pat.christen...@morningstar.com>> wrote:
Hi Bernard,

I'm getting a 404 Not Found on this URL.

Pat Christenson

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Subject: [Framers] Want to compare Adobe FM2017 with your version? There's a 
page for that!

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wwwimages.adobe.com_content_dam_acom_en_products_framemaker_framemake=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=QxJc1KyONunbC3ivCqbiL9eagEnD7tjy9em57ykByVU=Hqx3SyLuuaj4Qvd4lA5oqCB8OnOSQ3gsxpfUznWxIoY=
r_2017/pdf/FM_2017_VERSION_COMPARISION.pdf

Adobe has a PDF that provides info on the functions of FM2017 compared with 
versions going back to v9. Could be helpful in deciding to move to a new tool.

Bernard

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Re: [Framers] Want to compare Adobe FM2017 with your version? There's a page for that!

2017-02-03 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi Bernard,

I'm getting a 404 Not Found on this URL.

Pat Christenson

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Want to compare Adobe FM2017 with your version? There's a 
page for that!

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__wwwimages.adobe.com_content_dam_acom_en_products_framemaker_framemake=DwICAg=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=QxJc1KyONunbC3ivCqbiL9eagEnD7tjy9em57ykByVU=Hqx3SyLuuaj4Qvd4lA5oqCB8OnOSQ3gsxpfUznWxIoY=
r_2017/pdf/FM_2017_VERSION_COMPARISION.pdf

Adobe has a PDF that provides info on the functions of FM2017 compared with 
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Re: [Framers] Toggling Condition Indicators Individually

2016-11-17 Thread Pat Christenson

Here's my suggestion: Create a document for each display you need. In that 
documents, redefine the conditions so that all are black (not As Is) and the 
one has a color. Then Import Condition Settings from one of those docs to your 
doc.

Pat Christenson

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Subject: [Framers] Toggling Condition Indicators Individually

Earlier I got excellent advice on how to build conditional expressions. I'm 
hoping someone here has thoughts on the above. This question actually concerns 
the same set of files with 8 or 10 different condition tags in it.

My boss has a hard time remembering what each condition indicator is actually 
indicating. As a result, he has asked me to create numerous versions of the 
document set that have various conditions turned on, but only one of the 
indicators being visible.

That is to say, if the document has conditions A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and H, he 
wants to see the information tagged A, D, F, and G, but he only wants the 
INDICATOR for F to be visible.

Right now I'm using MIF snippets to reset the colors for A, D, and G to black 
on white (having discovered that As-Is just doesn't cut it), and another MIF 
snippet to reset them to their normal colors, but it sure would be nice if I 
could toggle the indicators for individual conditions. The way I'm doing it is 
a bit error prone, and it is also very tedious.

Is this something that could be done with an ExpressScript or MIF editing?
Is it worth putting individually toggleable condition indicators in as a 
feature request with Adobe? Am I the only person with an issue like this?
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[Framers] Default for imported graphics

2016-09-20 Thread Pat Christenson

FrameMaker 12, unstructured

Does anyone if there's a way to change the dpi options in the Import Graphic 
Scaling dialog? I rarely use the ones that are there and would like change them 
to ones I actually use.

Is there a way to add a 1-pt black border to a graphic as part of the import 
(i.e, set a default property that is applied upon import)?

No FrameScript, please, my company won't pay for it.

Thanks.

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Re: [Framers] Can Frame 15 be used so I can eliminate ePublisher?

2016-08-29 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi Art -  I'm curious. How do you turn off most of the weirdness? And which 
weirdness (weirdnesses?) are you talking about?

Thanks.

Pat Christenson

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To: Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
Cc: David Millis <david.mil...@drakesoftware.com>; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Can Frame 15 be used so I can eliminate ePublisher?

Don't know what your settings are, but you can turn off most of the weirdness.
I haven't found that any of the keyboard shortcuts I've been using for years 
stopped working with 15.
Much more stable over all -- one of the writers on my team recently ran up a 
114 (or thereabouts) page table. Single table. Works just like it should.
Ain't likely to happen with earlier versions...


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On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com>
wrote:

> Those features all exist in FrameMaker 2015 (version 13). You can get 
> a 30-day trial and see for yourself whether it works well enough.
>
> Have you used FrameMaker 9 or later? They put a weird UI layer on top 
> that's in many ways inferior to versions 8 and earlier. If you make 
> heavy use of keyboard shortcuts, you might be happier sticking with 
> 7.2.
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:35 PM, David Millis 
> <david.mil...@drakesoftware.com> wrote:
> > I'm currently on a Windows 7 machine using Frame 7.2 and ePublisher
> 2012.4. My Windows 10 machine should arrive any day. What I'm 
> wondering is can I get Frame 15 to do the same work that ePub does and 
> I therefore won't need to upgrade my ePub but instead get rid of it.
> >
> > What I need Frame 15 to be able to do is:
> >
> > 1.Generate CHM files (I know Frame 15 does this)
> >
> > 2.Use conditions (e.g. PDF_Only) so screenshots can be selected to
> be excluded from the CHM output but included in the PDF output
> >
> > 3.Write my content using one font (e.g. Times) and have a different
> font (e.g. Arial) used when the CHM file is generated
> >
> > 4.Use a cross-reference format that includes page numbers for the
> PDF output but removes the page numbers for the CHM output 
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Re: [Framers] heading text in "Running H/F #" - clever truncation ?

2016-08-15 Thread Pat Christenson

I ran into this recently (our training manuals use questions for second-level 
heads). I created a table in the header of the master page and set the cells' 
content to align-bottom. Long heads stack. It actually looks pretty good.

I don't think my manager would go for truncated headings.

Pat Christenson

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Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 11:01 AM
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Subject: [Framers] heading text in "Running H/F #" - clever truncation ?

Hello, Framers,

For an FAQ doc, I’ve broken the usual “rule” of sensible-length headings 
because I’m making them be the full text of a question. So with the font size, 
the headings are often 3- or 4-lines.

The problem is that I have my master pages configured to include the heading 
text in the recto footers, via the “Running H/F #” variable. And with these 
very long headings, the text overruns the available space in the footer, pushes 
the footer “artwork” (just a nice pipe line between the heading text and the 
page number) to the wrong spot, and completely obliterates the page number.

So, what sorts of schemes/work-arounds have people created to deal with this 
sort of issue?

(I can imagine creating a new heading style for the long-winded headings, 
creating a new hidden-text heading style for the truncated text that I’d wish 
in the footer, and then adding the style for the truncated heading to the 
“Running H/F #” definition, which already has multiple styles to account for, 
for example, “heading 1” and “heading 1 page”. But this is certainly a hassle, 
and won’t be at all obvious to some other writer, or my future self.)

Thanks for suggestions,
-Monique
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Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

2016-08-11 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks, Monique! I will definitely take a look at this.

Pat Christenson

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Subject: Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

> I'll be presenting nuts-and-bolts examples of how to do a bunch of 
> "structured/DITA things" in Word, FrameMaker, Doxygen/Javadoc, and MadCap 
> Flare...
I gave this presentation to the STC-Berkeley chapter last night, and per 
several requests from this list, am sharing the slide deck. You can find it on 
SlideShare: 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.slideshare.net_msemp_adopting-2Dstructuredanddita-2Dbest-2Dpractices-2Dfor-2Dany-2Dtoolset-3Fqid-3D38e06f93-2D0828-2D471c-2Da39b-2D54267a5660d4-26v-3D-26b-3D-26from-5Fsearch-3D1=DQIGaQ=qrd1rYdJNb4QhfvJv5PebOPglYwfSMJ71NR_1HMKptQ=XCAkAkKD_C5LA8IHfBffTgJF3-vQqo8LO_6iaUj61_E=kNNB0llCcx1uzCBmLHjWHZcq_fw0n4Ir6VZIxY8f2S4=axt_2iE1Tqn32mHcGiUjbpm7s4C8lAHjNgrMTyHDhQk=
 , and on my LinkedIn profile: 
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  (for now in the Summary section, and after “a while” in the experience entry 
for Society for Technical Communication).
I’d certainly welcome comment and discussion, -Monique
 
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Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-10 Thread Pat Christenson

I managed to get the tab to move down the edge in each chapter. I think 
conditional text might have been involved. Anyway, I know it can be done.

Pat

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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 3:52 PM
To: Jay Mahler 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

I've got a (very old) Frame file that I acquired when FM 5.5.6 was still the 
latest version. It claims to be able to automate the creation of bleed tabs. 
I've never used it, so I don't know how well it works, but I have the file 
(with requisite master pages) and the font it required, if anyone wants a look.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Jay Mahler  wrote:

> I've also created manual thumb tabs in unstructured FM. I put the tabs 
> on both right and left master pages, and I manually moved them for 
> each chapter. The big downside is when I added or moved chapters, 
> which happened quite often in one very large manual.
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Re: [Framers] editing variables

2016-08-10 Thread Pat Christenson

I saw something like this just recently. I had selected Filename (Short) (a 
system variable that apparently can't be edited). The Add/Edit Variable dialog 
box displayed the variable Page Count.

I don't know how to get around it but I'm guessing it has something to do with 
trying to edit a non-editable variable.

Was yours a system variable?

Pat Christenson

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Using Frame 2015 - when I select a variable in the variables list and click the 
Edit button, I get the Add/Edit Variable page, but the variable I selected is 
not listed in the Name box and no definition in the definition box. It used to 
work. Has anyone seen this? Any idea how to fix it?

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Re: [Framers] Thumb Tabs

2016-08-10 Thread Pat Christenson

I agree with Steve. I did a few books like this unstructured. I can't remember 
how I did it but I found the instructions somewhere online.

Pat

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At 14:53 + 10/8/16, Denis Daly wrote:

>Do you think this is a sensible idea, and can it be done using FM?

Yes, and yes. However, I would suggest you use thumbs tabs on every page, and 
move them down the page as the chapters increment. This makes them easier to 
use. I can tell you how to do this (automatically, unstructured) if you decide 
to go down this route.

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Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-08-02 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks for the reminder!

From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

Just don't forget to take the clew with you, or you'll be completely lost.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Pat Christenson 
<pat.christen...@morningstar.com<mailto:pat.christen...@morningstar.com>> wrote:
Thank you, everyone who responded to my question.

I met with my managers today and we worked out a solution that's involves 
creating a mythical beast that's half out-of-date user guide and 
half-up-to-date release notes. When I'm not following the thread out of that 
maze (are you loving my classical references?), I will be updating the user 
guide, merging the two halves into one glorious golden fleece that men will 
cross oceans to marvel at.

Thanks again.

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Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 3:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content


Fine, you all can have the last word. I know better than to continue this 
debate. I should have known better than to even start it.

Russ

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Structured markup has been around longer than the web, PDFs, online help, or 
personal computers.

Since you make your living from structured content, I'm not going to waste time 
explaining why it's not the best choice for every set of requirements, and why 
people are still creating interesting and useful unstructured tools.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:01 PM, 
<r...@weststreetconsulting.com<mailto:r...@weststreetconsulting.com>> wrote:
> Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE
> answer, period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content
> anymore, because the technology is decades old. Any technical writer
> in a high-demand environment should be using structured content. If
> you are not, you are now closer to the typewriter than you are to
> modern practices. ...


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Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-08-02 Thread Pat Christenson

Thank you, everyone who responded to my question.

I met with my managers today and we worked out a solution that's involves 
creating a mythical beast that's half out-of-date user guide and 
half-up-to-date release notes. When I'm not following the thread out of that 
maze (are you loving my classical references?), I will be updating the user 
guide, merging the two halves into one glorious golden fleece that men will 
cross oceans to marvel at.

Thanks again.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of r...@weststreetconsulting.com
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 3:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

Fine, you all can have the last word. I know better than to continue this 
debate. I should have known better than to even start it.

Russ

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Structured markup has been around longer than the web, PDFs, online help, or 
personal computers.

Since you make your living from structured content, I'm not going to waste time 
explaining why it's not the best choice for every set of requirements, and why 
people are still creating interesting and useful unstructured tools.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:01 PM,  wrote:
> Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE 
> answer, period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content 
> anymore, because the technology is decades old. Any technical writer 
> in a high-demand environment should be using structured content. If 
> you are not, you are now closer to the typewriter than you are to 
> modern practices. ...

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Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-07-29 Thread Pat Christenson

Russ:

"This is the quickest path to failure I can think of. All roads to success 
involve the long view and much investment. If you won't do this, nobody here 
can help you regardless any tools or technologies."

I have to disagree, Russ. Not every problem requires "much investment," and as 
for your statement that nobody here can help me regardless of tools or tech, 
two people have sent me ideas, both of which are workable, could be implemented 
immediately (or close to it), would cost nothing, and are better than what I 
have here now.

Pat

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Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE answer, 
period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content anymore, because 
the technology is decades old. Any technical writer in a high-demand 
environment should be using structured content. If you are not, you are now 
closer to the typewriter than you are to modern practices.

Having said that, DITA is but one option. Some find answers there, others do 
not. There are many ways to structure information and get significant benefits. 
Fortunately, you are already using FrameMaker which is a very flexible 
structured authoring tool. Take some time to investigate and see what it has to 
offer. You would be in much worse shape if you were using Word or similar.

Also, I have to comment on this one statement:

"I can't stress enough that right now, we need short-term solutions."

This is the quickest path to failure I can think of. All roads to success 
involve the long view and much investment. If you won't do this, nobody here 
can help you regardless any tools or technologies.

Russ


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[Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content with DITA but I'll ask anyway (LONG)

2016-07-26 Thread Pat Christenson

I'm the only tech writer in my group. Everyone else is a trainer/presenter 
(although they do quite a bit of writing).

Our software has numerous components, each on its own release track. At the end 
of each month, I post extensive release notes on EVERYTHING from the month 
(written in FrameMaker, distributed as PDF). This is taking a big chunk of time 
because the preference is for very detailed documentation. Step-by-step, lots 
of screen shots, and assume the user has never used any of our software before.

This allows the rest of the group to leverage what I write but because it's a 
monthly release note, all the topics are together in one PDF. It's a pretty 
safe assumption that none of the users look at it after that month and even if 
they remember reading about how to use a new feature, they almost certainly 
don't remember that it was in the February 2016 release notes. Very few people 
would be willing to open each month's PDF and check the front page for content.

And the cherry on this sundae is all our user guides and help content are very 
much out-of-date.

I also create a very brief release announcement in HTML that generally 
describes the new features and directs users to the PDF.


My manager has asked me to come up with ideas on how to get more use out of 
what I'm writing. Some of my ideas are:


-  Recognize that these are release notes, not training materials. 
Assume the reader has a certain level of competence. No more screen shots after 
almost every step.

-  Update the various product user guides (which would be a gargantuan 
task, given I'm the only writer) and perhaps pull material from the monthly 
release notes into each guide as an addendum and appendix.

-  Break the existing release notes in separate docs/books by topic (ad 
hoc user guide). In the monthly release announcement, link to those.

-  Make a master book of release notes with a TOC and maybe even an 
index (Lord, where would I find the time?). Even if it's still organized by 
month, the user would have a way to skim for content.

In the long run, we probably need to get away from the idea of release notes in 
one document (or in a document at all). We should probably be chunking and 
tagging material, using a CMS, and single-source this into Help, release notes, 
etc. But we are a small group with a great deal of legacy documentation. I've 
been here 6 months (there was no tech writer before-each product team "wrote" 
its own release notes). Everyone loves that the notes are now well-written and 
comprehensive, and look polished, but my manager and I both feel that I'm 
building up more documentation that isn't flexible.

I hope this group may have some ideas. I can't stress enough that right now, we 
need short-term solutions.

All ideas and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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[Framers] Master Page behavior (FrameMaker 12)

2016-05-23 Thread Pat Christenson

Running FrameMaker 12 on Windows.

In a right/left document, when we add content on the last page that runs over 
and creates a new page, the new page matches the layout of the previous page, 
instead of following the right/left convention.

When you go to Master Pages and return to Body Pages, you get the message about 
some pages having overrides and it's always the last page. Choosing to Remove 
Overrides (or using Format/Page Layout/Master Page Usage) fixes it for the one 
instance, but the next time you add more content, it's the same problem.

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

2016-05-18 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi Monique -

What a very interesting and helpful post.

Do you plan to offer your presentation as a webex? I'd be very interesting in 
seeing it.

I was at VMware too, as a consultant during the changeover to structure. Did 
our paths cross? 

Pat Christenson

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Subject: [Framers] structured content - not always called for

> But then, working with unstructured FM content in the 21st century is really 
> not done, if you ask me. Converting is fairly easy - we do it all the time - 
> so if you do not have structured content yet, look in that direction for your 
> best practices.

Oh, I disagree strongly with this. Working with unstructured content is done 
often, although I'll grant you with varying degrees of success :-).

I've worked with DITA—including at VMware, where I got to work directly with 
some of the thought leaders in structured content—and definitely see the great 
advantages **but only if appropriate **.

In my current assignment, I'm the sole writer (and part-time at that), for an 
organization that doesn't have very many products, that has no need for 
localization, and that has independent streams for Marketing and Tech Pubs 
deliverables (and no need to combine them or share actual content files). I've 
worked on-and-off at this company for 10+ years, and it's only now that I'm 
even looking into any sort of "reuse strategy". And truthfully, if I hadn't 
recently spent several years in a heavily structured-content environment, I 
doubt I'd have even thought of it. It's not too much content that I can't just 
copy/paste, make a few notes in the wiki about "if you change this in doc A, be 
sure to make the parallel change in doc B", and be done with it. But being a 
trainable monkey (as "they" say), I figured the docs (and I) would benefit from 
a bit of forethought.

I've seen conversions done, and yes, they're fairly easy. But there's no need 
to invest the time to migrate content, possibly purchase additional tools (at 
my own expense because I'm a consultant, not a direct employee), or develop new 
templates for publishing from structured FrameMaker. As well, doing so would 
make it even harder for my client to bring in another tech writer who's 
appropriately skilled in the tools with which I've created their docs, and 
experienced enough to figure things out (given the lack of detail in the Tech 
Pubs Processes and Procedures, which are lacking detail because there's no need 
for the client to pay for more detailed versions).

 I'm not anti-DITA, anti-structure, or anything like that. In fact, I took 
a recent 18-month contract in large part because I'd get to keep working in the 
structured content world. In addition to the oft-cited benefits (reuse, 
localization, topic-based writing, semantic-styling), I found that I could 
write much more accurate content, much more quickly than otherwise. And when 
reviewers focused on minutia such as an occasional bad break in a PDF, I could 
just say, "sorry, nothing I can do about it" :-). 

But structured authoring/DITA, is simply overkill for many situations, and is 
typically best with *at least* one "pubs tools guy/gal" in addition to the 
dedicated writers. I feel strongly about this, and in fact am developing a 
presentation along the lines of "Adopting the Best Practices of Structured 
Authoring—In Any Toolset". I'll be presenting nuts-and-bolts examples of how to 
do a bunch of "structured/DITA things" in Word, FrameMaker, Doxygen/Javadoc, 
and MadCap Flare. Word-for-word, this is how I pitched the presentation topic, 
which was very well received by the STC-Berkeley programs team:
  --
  All too often the “experts” seem to imply that you must use some giant system 
with lots of overhead (I’m thinking DITA at VMware or Salesforce, of the big 
Ponydocs ecosystem at Splunk) in order to get any of the benefits of 
structured/DITA writing. But that’s just not true. There are lots of things 
that are about writing technique and simple style management in whatever tool 
you’re using. But nobody presents it that way. They just shake their heads at 
the practicalities of needing to use cheap/free tools at a shop that’s not 
interested in investing in tools for writers. And I’d like to show that this 
needn’t prevent writers from gaining the benefits of structure and style that 
DITA enforces.
  --
Just some long rambling thoughts for consideration, -Monique 
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Re: [Framers] ANN: Bottlenecks for the Ride for Roswell

2016-05-17 Thread Pat Christenson

I endorse this! It would be a huge help in our current design.

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On Behalf Of Urszula
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 8:18 PM
To: Rick Quatro 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] ANN: Bottlenecks for the Ride for Roswell

Hi Rick,

How about paragraph alignment towards spine and away from spine? Anchored 
frames can be flexibly aligned this way, but not paragraphs! It would open 
great layout options both on master and body pages.

Thanks for your offer to contribute your time.

Urszula

Urszula Witherell
www.jetsetcom.net | www.trainingonsite.com
301.524.3165

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> On May 16, 2016, at 9:50 AM, Rick Quatro  wrote:
> 
> Hello Framers,
> 
> It is almost time for the annual Ride for Roswell to raise money for 
> the Roswell Park Cancer Center in Buffalo, NY. My son, Jason, and I 
> will be riding 102 miles on June 25th. Normally, I provide scripts or 
> plugins to those that donate. This year I want to do something 
> different: I want you to identify some FrameMaker bottlenecks that 
> could be solved with scripting. If I like your idea, I will develop a 
> script and use that to raise money for our ride.
> 
> I have one script developed already: OpenAllSpecial. It opens all of 
> the documents in a book without any alerts. This is useful if you have 
> a FrameMaker crash and you have a bunch of recover files. The script 
> will use the recover files automatically. Or, perhaps you don't have 
> all of the graphics, but want to open all of the files anyway without alerts.
> 
> Please email me with your ideas! Thank you very much.
> 
> Rick
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-366-4017
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Framers] Using Frame as a little CMS

2016-04-22 Thread Pat Christenson

Please share your observations on the list or with me privately. I've been 
thinking about this and will welcome input.

Pat Christenson

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Subject: [Framers] Using Frame as a little CMS

In several posts recently, Framers have mentioned using Frame as a CMS with 
text insets.  We are using text insets in Frame, but we're really struggling 
with the CMS part.  We are "managing" the insets in a spreadsheet and that is 
not very effective and takes quite a bit of maintenance.

Could Framers who are using Frame as a CMS expound on that a bit?

Thanks in advance for the insights --

Patti Tornquist
Product Documentation
TeamQuest Corporation
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Re: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

2016-04-14 Thread Pat Christenson

Necessity is the mother of "finding the money somehow."

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From: Craig, Alison [mailto:acr...@bkultrasound.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 4:03 PM
To: Pat Christenson; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

Wow - $695 in 1993!

That rivals the $700 I spent on HP's first laser printer at about the same 
time. (It printed in black at a whopping 300 dpi.)

Were we rich or stupid? ;-) 

Alison

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BK Ultrasound | acr...@bkultrasound.com | bkultrasound.com

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Of Pat Christenson
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Ouch. I remember buying the personal version.

Pat Christenson

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Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 2:27 PM
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Subject: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

   Cleaning out my personal archives, I stumbled across a pdf which I
   created from a site:
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/history/history01.htm

   The text has been moved to
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/basics/history now, but it's the same:

   The history of PDF

   The first time Adobe actually talked about this technology was at a
   Seybold conference in San Jose in 1991. At that time, it was referred
   to as 'IPS' which stood for 'Interchange PostScript.'

   Version 1.0 of PDF was announced at Comdex Fall in 1992 where the
   technology won a 'best of Comdex' award. The tools to create and view
   PDF-files, Acrobat, were released in on 15 June 1993. This first
   version was of no use for the prepress community. It already featured
   internal links and bookmarks and fonts could be embedded but the only
   colour space supported was RGB.

   Watch the senence «Adobe asked a steep price for the tools to create
   PDF files. Acrobat Distiller was available in personal and network
   versions, priced at $695 and $2,495 respectively.»

   Hm, the older I grow the more I'm interested in history ...

   Klaus

   ~~~
   ~~

   Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich

   Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper

   F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: d...@daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch 
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Re: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

2016-04-14 Thread Pat Christenson

Ouch. I remember buying the personal version.

Pat Christenson

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From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Klaus Daube
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 2:27 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] OT: The history of PDF

   Cleaning out my personal archives, I stumbled across a pdf which I
   created from a site:
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/history/history01.htm

   The text has been moved to
   http://www.prepressure.com/pdf/basics/history now, but it's the same:

   The history of PDF

   The first time Adobe actually talked about this technology was at a
   Seybold conference in San Jose in 1991. At that time, it was referred
   to as 'IPS' which stood for 'Interchange PostScript.'

   Version 1.0 of PDF was announced at Comdex Fall in 1992 where the
   technology won a 'best of Comdex' award. The tools to create and view
   PDF-files, Acrobat, were released in on 15 June 1993. This first
   version was of no use for the prepress community. It already featured
   internal links and bookmarks and fonts could be embedded but the only
   colour space supported was RGB.

   Watch the senence «Adobe asked a steep price for the tools to create
   PDF files. Acrobat Distiller was available in personal and network
   versions, priced at $695 and $2,495 respectively.»

   Hm, the older I grow the more I'm interested in history ...

   Klaus

   ~~~
   ~~

   Docu + Design Daube; Schäracher 11; CH-8053 Zürich

   Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper

   F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: d...@daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch
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Re: [Framers] Generate list of FrameMaker para, char, table, etc., formats?

2016-04-06 Thread Pat Christenson

I can heartily recommend these tools.

Pat

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On Behalf Of Craig, Alison
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 12:35 PM
To: Nancy Allison; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Generate list of FrameMaker para, char, table, etc., 
formats?

Silicon Prairie's Paragraph and Character plug-ins will do this for you (I've 
included a Para and Char sample below).



The plug-ins are very inexpensive and highly useful and also include versions 
for Tables, Variables, Colors, etc.



http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/



Alison


Technical Documentation Specialist
BK Ultrasound | acr...@bkultrasound.com | 
bkultrasound.com







Para Tag Sample


Char Tag Sample


Body





Default Font


F-B


Capitalization: Normal


Capitalization: Normal


Change Bar: False


Change Bar: False


Color: Black


Color: As Is


Background Color:


Background Color: As Is


Font Family: Arial


Font Family: As Is


Font Angle: Regular


Font Angle: Regular


Font Size: 10.00 points


Font Size: As Is


Font Variation: Regular


Font Variation: Regular


Font Weight: Regular


Font Weight: Bold


Spread: 0.00%


Language: usenglish


Stretch: 100.00%


Overline: False


Overline: False


Pair Kern: True


Pair Kern: True


Position: Normal


Position: Normal


Spread: 0.00%


Strikethrough: False


Stretch: 100.00%


Underlining: None


Strikethrough: False


Alignment: Justified


Underlining: None


Language: usenglish





Tabs





Tab: Type: Left Align   Position: 5.000 millimeters  Decimal:   Leader:





Word Spacing





Allow Automatic Letter Spacing: False





Minimum: 90.00%





Maximum: 110.00%





Optimum: 100.00%





Indents





First Indent: 0.000 millimeters





Left Indent: 0.000 millimeters





Right Indent: 0.000 millimeters





Line Spacing





Line Spacing: 12.00 points





Spacing: Fixed





Space Above: 0.00 points





Space Below: 0.00 points





Pagination





Widow-Orphan Lines: 2





Keep With Next: False





Keep With Previous: False





Format: In Column





Run-in Head Default Punctuation:





Start: Anywhere





Next Tag





Use Next Tag: False





Next Tag:





Autonumbering





Autonumbering: False





Number at End: False





Character Format:





Autonumber Format:





Hyphenation





Hyphenate: True





Max Number Adjacent: 0





Shortest Prefix: 3





Shortest Suffix: 3





Shortest Word: 5





Reference Frames





Frame Below Paragraph:





Frame Above Paragraph:





Table Cells





Cell Vertical Alignment: Top





Bottom Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





Top Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





Left Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





Right Margin - From Table Format Plus: 0.00 points





PDF Properties





Named Destination: False





Bookmark Level: 0





Structure Level: 6



















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Subject: [Framers] Generate list of FrameMaker para, char, table, etc., formats?



   You know how Word enables you to generate a handy list of all your word

   styles and their attributes?

   Surely, surely FrameMaker enables us to do this!

   How? Can anyone tell me?

   Or, if in fact vanilla FM does not have this function, is there a

   plug-in that will do it?

   Thank you very much!

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[Framers] Object properties

2016-04-06 Thread Pat Christenson

Is there a keyboard shortcut to apply an object property (like there is for 
paragraph and character formats)?


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Re: [Framers] About text frames

2016-04-06 Thread Pat Christenson

I'll clarify further.

When I create a text frame for a callout to a graphic, it always defaults to 
Body. I have a paragraph format called Callout. Can I change the default 
paragraph for a text frame to Callout?

I can't simply redefine Body to match the settings of Callout because we use 
Body throughout our documents.

Pat

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On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 11:08 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] About text frames

To change the paragraph tag for a new .fm file, ee "Change the template for 
blank paper" in the help.

Other than that, the paragraph tag for a new paragraph is set by the Next Pgf 
Tag setting in the previous paragraph.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Pat Christenson 
<pat.christen...@morningstar.com> wrote:
> -  Is there a way to set the default paragraph format to something 
> other than Body?
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[Framers] About text frames

2016-04-06 Thread Pat Christenson

I'm using FrameMaker 12.


-  Is there a way to disable the Number of Columns dialog that appears 
when you first create a text frame?

-  Is there a way to set the default paragraph format to something 
other than Body?
Thanks.


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Re: [Framers] Taking and inserting screen captures in FrameMaker 2015

2016-03-30 Thread Pat Christenson

I'm using SnagIt with FM2015 and find it very easy to use. I've set up a 
keyboard shortcut to launch it and that helps.

Pat Christenson

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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 7:59 PM
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Subject: [Framers] Taking and inserting screen captures in FrameMaker 2015

Hi,

Does anyone know of a screen capture plugin for FM2015?
(Or some another convenient method for taking and inserting screen captures?)

The SnagIt plugin with FM9 makes it easy to take, save, and insert a screen 
capture.

I have not found an equally convenient tool or method for FM2015. 

Adobe's RoboScreenCapture tool in Tech Comm Suite 2015 requires extra steps and 
seems buggy when saving captures. 
Judging from the 2006-2007 copyright dates I do not expect Adobe to update it 
soon. 

Best regards,

Steve Waldenga
MitraStar Technology Corp.
Creative Design Department
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[Framers] Running H/F variable challenge

2016-03-20 Thread Pat Christenson

I need a Running H/F variable to work as follows:

If there's a Heading2, pull the text (such as Overview). If there's an exercise 
head, pull the exercise number and the text. Heading2 paras don't have an 
autonumber. Exercises number like this: Exercise\ <n+>: (with a space after the 
colon)

So the Running H/F variable should read either Overview or Exercise 2: Create a 
data point

I've defined the variable as 
<$paranum[Exercise,Heading2><$paratext[Exercise,Heading2]>

It works perfectly except for one thing. I can't get the space after the colon 
in the autonumber to appear in the header. Instead, it looks like this:
Exercise 2:Create a data point

I've tried using a non-breaking space after the colon in the autonumber but 
that doesn't work either.

Help is appreciated.


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Re: [Framers] Running H/F variable challenge

2016-03-19 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi Grant –

I tried that and it was ignored in the header as well.

Looks like I’m going with 3 thin spaces. They produce the right amount of space 
and work in text and header.

Thanks, everyone.

Pat

From: Grant Hogarth [mailto:gr...@hedgewizard.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 4:43 PM
To: Pat Christenson
Cc: Fred Ridder; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Running H/F variable challenge


Try adding a non-breaking space after the text in the Exercise\ 
<n+>:[non-breaking space]

On March 16, 2016 at 3:10 PM Pat Christenson 
<pat.christen...@morningstar.com<mailto:pat.christen...@morningstar.com>> wrote:


Hi Fred -

Yes, I tried that but then it includes the space when the header is referencing 
a Heading2 and I can't use that.

However, I seem to be having some success by replacing the space after the 
colon in the autonumber with 3 thin spaces. Go figure.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:42 PM
To: Pat Christenson
Subject: Re: Running H/F variable challenge

Have you tried including a space between the building blocks in the two 
variables in the Running H/F variable definition? In other words, either a 
regular space or a non-breaking space (typed with a backslash preceding the 
space) between the > and the <.

-FR


From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com>>
 on behalf of Pat Christenson 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 4:22 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: [Framers] Running H/F variable challenge

I need a Running H/F variable to work as follows:

If there's a Heading2, pull the text (such as Overview). If there's an exercise 
head, pull the exercise number and the text. Heading2 paras don't have an 
autonumber. Exercises number like this: Exercise\ <n+>: (with a space after the 
colon)

So the Running H/F variable should read either Overview or Exercise 2: Create a 
data point

I've defined the variable as 
<$paranum[Exercise,Heading2><$paratext[Exercise,Heading2]>

It works perfectly except for one thing. I can't get the space after the colon 
in the autonumber to appear in the header. Instead, it looks like this:
Exercise 2:Create a data point

I've tried using a non-breaking space after the colon in the autonumber but 
that doesn't work either.

Help is appreciated.


Pat Christenson
Senior Technical Writer, Client Education Morningstar, Inc.
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Re: [Framers] Running H/F variable challenge

2016-03-19 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi Fred -

Yes, I tried that but then it includes the space when the header is referencing 
a Heading2 and I can't use that.

However, I seem to be having some success by replacing the space after the 
colon in the autonumber with 3 thin spaces. Go figure.

Thanks.

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From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 3:42 PM
To: Pat Christenson
Subject: Re: Running H/F variable challenge

Have you tried including a space between the building blocks in the two 
variables in the Running H/F variable definition? In other words, either a 
regular space or a non-breaking space (typed with a backslash preceding the 
space) between the > and the <.  

-FR


From: Framers <framers-bounces+docudoc=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
behalf of Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 4:22 PM
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Subject: [Framers] Running H/F variable challenge

I need a Running H/F variable to work as follows:

If there's a Heading2, pull the text (such as Overview). If there's an exercise 
head, pull the exercise number and the text. Heading2 paras don't have an 
autonumber. Exercises number like this: Exercise\ <n+>: (with a space after the 
colon)

So the Running H/F variable should read either Overview or Exercise 2: Create a 
data point

I've defined the variable as 
<$paranum[Exercise,Heading2><$paratext[Exercise,Heading2]>

It works perfectly except for one thing. I can't get the space after the colon 
in the autonumber to appear in the header. Instead, it looks like this:
Exercise 2:Create a data point

I've tried using a non-breaking space after the colon in the autonumber but 
that doesn't work either.

Help is appreciated.


Pat Christenson
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Re: [Framers] Default book window size

2016-03-15 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks, Craig!

From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 7:48 PM
To: Pat Christenson
Subject: RE: [Framers] Default book window size

Under Edit>Preferences you can set the books to open as a floating tab by 
unchecking the Open Composite Documents as Tabs.

Craig

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From: pat.christen...@morningstar.com<mailto:pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
To: craig...@hotmail.com<mailto:craig...@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Framers] Default book window size
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:00:21 +
Hi Craig -

I'm doing that but every time I close the book and re-open it, it goes back to 
its original state. I'm wondering if there's a way to set a default for all 
books to open detached and smaller.

Thanks.

Pat

From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:03 PM
To: Pat Christenson
Subject: RE: [Framers] Default book window size

You can detach the tab. You can also resize it along the right edge and make it 
narrower.

Craig
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> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:46:48 +
> Subject: [Framers] Default book window size
>
> I'm using FrameMaker 12. Is there any way to change the default size/position 
> of a book window? When I open a book, I would prefer it to be a free-standing 
> window and not take up nearly half my screen?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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[Framers] Default book window size

2016-03-14 Thread Pat Christenson

I'm using FrameMaker 12. Is there any way to change the default size/position 
of a book window? When I open a book, I would prefer it to be a free-standing 
window and not take up nearly half my screen?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: [Framers] Bootcamp vs. Parallels or VM, WAS: FrameMaker and Salesforce

2016-03-14 Thread Pat Christenson

Thank you to everyone who responded. I will definitely take your comments into 
account when making my decision.

Pat

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Bootcamp vs. Parallels or VM, WAS: FrameMaker and 
Salesforce

Indeed yes. The more you can assign, the better your experience. When I am 
giong to do intensive work in FM, Visio, etc, I assign 8Gb.

Alan

On 10/03/16 10:31 am, Scott Prentice wrote:
> You do need more RAM for VMs. An easy rule of thumb is 4GB per OS .. 4 
> for the Mac, and 4 for each VM. I've got 16GB, and that works great 
> for
> 3 OSes.
>
> ..scott
>
>
>
> On 3/9/16 1:17 PM, John Sgammato wrote:
>> Hi Pat,
>> I got my MacBook Pro in November 2012.
>> First I asked for a Windows machine. That was rejected.
>> Then I tried VirtualBox, and that did not work well for a number of 
>> reasons that I no longer recall.
>> (I had plenty of support from well-meaning engineers.) Then one of 
>> those well-meaning engineers took my Mac home over the weekend and 
>> when I got it back it was great. He had configured Bootcamp to use 
>> virtually all the Mac resources and since then it has been a Windows 
>> machine, first Win7 and now Win10 with TCS 2015.
>> I was just talking to our IT guy. I am due for an upgrade, but I told 
>> him that I don't want it because my system ain't broke, so please 
>> don't fix it.
>> About 21 months ago, we added two more writers. They got Macs, but 
>> set up Parallels. Parallels was a resource hog and their systems 
>> never ran as well as my older Bootcamp one. In December, they 
>> switched to Bootcamp, with happy results.
>> I recommend Bootcamp over Parallels or VirtualBox for our kind of work.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Pat Christenson < 
>> pat.christen...@morningstar.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, John -
>>>
>>> I've run FrameMaker under both Parallels and VMware Fusion but have 
>>> only used in on a Windows platform for the last several years. I may 
>>> soon be in a position to use a Mac again. I'm curious about your 
>>> preference for Bootcamp (which I've never used). I would also love 
>>> to hear from other Framers on this topic.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Pat Christenson
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> John Sgammato wrote:
>>>
>>> In other news, we are also a Mac house. Over three years of 
>>> trial-and-error, we have determined that our best setup is Bootcamp 
>>> on the Mac, not Parallels and not VirtualMachine.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Robyn Chittister 
>>> <rchittis...@vlocity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone use FrameMaker and then integrate that documentation 
>>>> with Salesforce?
>>>>
>>>> I'm 1 of 1-1/2 technical writers at a start up that creates cloud 
>>>> apps for Salesforce. We are currently using Salesforce Knowledge to 
>>>> create and deliver our documentation. Knowledge is possibly the 
>>>> worst documentation tool I have ever used. We've been looking at 
>>>> various single-sourcing solutions, and we're down to MadCap Flare 
>>>> and FrameMaker.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a FrameMaker user from way back - I started with FM+SGML 5.5 in 
>>>> 1999. I developed templates and tools for FM+SGML and FM+XML from 
>>>> 1999-2005. I've used FM 12 in an unstructured environment, and am 
>>>> happy to see the improvements. I'm not sure how many improvements 
>>>> there have been in the structured environment, however. I've tried 
>>>> to contact Adobe, and have gotten a human being to say he'll give 
>>>> my questions to a solutions specialist to answer. Knowing Adobe, 
>>>> I'm not
>>> going to hold my breath.
>>>> My questions are:
>>>>
>>>> - Is anyone here writing doc for Salesforce or Salesforce apps?
>>>> If so,
>>>> what tools do you use?
>>>> - Is there a good comparison of the most recent versions of 
>>>> Flare v.
>>> FM?
>>>> The only ones I've been able to find are from several years ago.
>>>> - Is anyone here using FM+XML (either v12 or 2015) who could 
>>>> a

[Framers] Bootcamp vs. Parallels or VM, WAS: FrameMaker and Salesforce

2016-03-09 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi, John -

I've run FrameMaker under both Parallels and VMware Fusion but have only used 
in on a Windows platform for the last several years. I may soon be in a 
position to use a Mac again. I'm curious about your preference for Bootcamp 
(which I've never used). I would also love to hear from other Framers on this 
topic.

Thanks.

Pat Christenson



John Sgammato wrote:

In other news, we are also a Mac house. Over three years of trial-and-error, we 
have determined that our best setup is Bootcamp on the Mac, not Parallels and 
not VirtualMachine.


On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Robyn Chittister <rchittis...@vlocity.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does anyone use FrameMaker and then integrate that documentation with 
> Salesforce?
>
> I'm 1 of 1-1/2 technical writers at a start up that creates cloud apps 
> for Salesforce. We are currently using Salesforce Knowledge to create 
> and deliver our documentation. Knowledge is possibly the worst 
> documentation tool I have ever used. We've been looking at various 
> single-sourcing solutions, and we're down to MadCap Flare and FrameMaker.
>
> I'm a FrameMaker user from way back - I started with FM+SGML 5.5 in 
> 1999. I developed templates and tools for FM+SGML and FM+XML from 
> 1999-2005. I've used FM 12 in an unstructured environment, and am 
> happy to see the improvements. I'm not sure how many improvements 
> there have been in the structured environment, however. I've tried to 
> contact Adobe, and have gotten a human being to say he'll give my 
> questions to a solutions specialist to answer. Knowing Adobe, I'm not going 
> to hold my breath.
>
> My questions are:
>
>- Is anyone here writing doc for Salesforce or Salesforce apps? If so,
>what tools do you use?
>- Is there a good comparison of the most recent versions of Flare v. FM?
>The only ones I've been able to find are from several years ago.
>- Is anyone here using FM+XML (either v12 or 2015) who could answer some
>specific questions I have about it?
>
>
> We're a Mac house, so I can't just download the trial versions. We 
> understand that we will need to get me set up with a VM and Windows to 
> use the software we choose.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
>
> ~Robyn
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Re: [Framers] ExtendScript - Generating a Catalog of Graphics

2016-02-10 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi Carla -

I remember the Caxton tools. I loved them!

Pat Christenson

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On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 11:59 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] ExtendScript - Generating a Catalog of Graphics

Years and years (and years) ago, I purchased a set of utilities called Caxton 
Xtras. Caxton has long since gone away, but the utilities continued to work in 
FM for several versions after they were initially released. My source utility 
files have a date of December 1998 - I think it was FM5 I was using at the 
time. (I go all the way back to using FM2 in 1990... very scary, I know.)

A coworker wanted to generate a list of imported graphics that includes the 
image. Xtras had such a utility, but unfortunately it doesn't work with the 
last few versions of Frame. The Xtras graphics catalog generated a table with a 
thumbnail of the graphic in the first column (about 2 in height, if I remember 
correctly), the path in the second column, and the page # in the third column. 
It really was quite handy.

Has anyone written a script for recent FrameMaker versions which does something 
similar? ExtendScript preferred, but I also have FrameScript. Much as I want to 
be involved in scripting, I just haven't been able to dedicate the time to be 
able to write my own.

BTW, I'm happy to send a copy of the Caxton files to anyone who wants to look 
at the source files if you're curious and have an older version of Frame 
(likely FM9 or earlier) . :)

-Carla




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Re: global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Pat Christenson

The problem I foresee with this method is that the variable will automatically 
update when the document is opened on or after the 1st of each month, even if 
the content of the document hasn't been modified. If you want the new date only 
when modifications are made, create a user variable that you edit at the time 
of the revisions.

Pat


On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:

 Tim,
 In your variables definition, place the following at the beginning of your 
 running header:
  
 $monthname $year
  
 Using this method, Frame reads the month name from your computer and you 
 never have to change it.
  
 -Gillian
  
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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
 Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 2:02 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: global master page changes
  
 I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
 client likes to have a “version” in the header, such as “March 2013 Version”, 
 “April 2013 Version,” etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my 
 master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I’m 
 currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript 
 since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in 
 advance for the help.
  
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global master page changes

2013-03-25 Thread Pat Christenson

The problem I foresee with this method is that the variable will automatically 
update when the document is opened on or after the 1st of each month, even if 
the content of the document hasn't been modified. If you want the new date only 
when modifications are made, create a user variable that you edit at the time 
of the revisions.

Pat


On Mar 25, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:

> Tim,
> In your variables definition, place the following at the beginning of your 
> running header:
>  
> <$monthname> <$year>
>  
> Using this method, Frame reads the month name from your computer and you 
> never have to change it.
>  
> -Gillian
>  
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Timothy DeWees
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 2:02 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: global master page changes
>  
> I have a document that changes very frequently, sometimes every month. The 
> client likes to have a ?version? in the header, such as ?March 2013 Version?, 
> ?April 2013 Version,? etc.  Is there a way to globally revise all of my 
> master pages in the book from say March to April in the header title? I?m 
> currently running FM10 and would prefer to do this without using framescript 
> since not everyone working with these documents has framescript.  Thanks in 
> advance for the help.
>  
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Re: attach Caption to floating Anchored Frame

2013-03-21 Thread Pat Christenson

Create a text frame within the anchored frame and use it for the figure 
caption. You'll be able to use auto-numbering and auto-referencing.

Pat Christenson


On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:25 PM, William W. Saylor, PE wrote:

 I suspect this is another dumb question:
 I am using FM10 on Win7 writing a multi-chapter technical book. Is there a 
 simple way to attach a following caption to an anchored frame when I let the 
 anchored frame float? I use the auto-numbering of the figures and 
 auto-referencing to the Captions extensively.
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attach Caption to floating Anchored Frame

2013-03-21 Thread Pat Christenson

Create a text frame within the anchored frame and use it for the figure 
caption. You'll be able to use auto-numbering and auto-referencing.

Pat Christenson


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> I suspect this is another dumb question:
> I am using FM10 on Win7 writing a multi-chapter technical book. Is there a 
> simple way to attach a following caption to an anchored frame when I let the 
> anchored frame float? I use the auto-numbering of the figures and 
> auto-referencing to the Captions extensively.
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SOLVED (kinda): Corrupt .docx file

2013-02-07 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks to everyone who responded on- and off-list.

I tried the open as zip solution and yes, there was a file with the content but 
I don't know enough xml to do anything with it.

Re: backups. I use Time Machine (Mac). Unfortunately, the client held onto the 
file for several months, so those backups are gone.

Finally, the client doesn't want anyone outside their organization or my 
agency's organization to look at the file. The agency had an inhouse IT person 
clean it up and now it opens but all the equations are gone. Sigh.

Thanks again!

Pat

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SOLVED (kinda): Corrupt .docx file

2013-02-07 Thread Pat Christenson

Thanks to everyone who responded on- and off-list.

I tried the open as zip solution and yes, there was a file with the content but 
I don't know enough xml to do anything with it.

Re: backups. I use Time Machine (Mac). Unfortunately, the client held onto the 
file for several months, so those backups are gone.

Finally, the client doesn't want anyone outside their organization or my 
agency's organization to look at the file. The agency had an inhouse IT person 
clean it up and now it opens but all the equations are gone. Sigh.

Thanks again!

Pat

OT: Corrupt .docx file

2013-02-06 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi -

Please excuse this OT post but the people on this list are so knowledgable. I'm 
hoping someone can point me in the right direction.

I have a Word .docx file that won't open. I discovered that there's an XML- and 
equations-related bug (thanks, Microsoft!) that works like this: You open a 
.doc or .docx file,  build a lot of equations, save as .docx and close. When 
you try to re-open it, it won't open and you get a message saying there's a 
problem with the content.

I've done a lot of research online and tried every converter and rebuilder I 
can find but nothing opens this. The client can't afford to have me redo the 
work.

Can anyone recommend someone who can get into this and fix the XML? Preferably, 
free or cheap.

Because this is OT, you may want to reply  offlist.

Thank you SO MUCH for any help.

Pat Christenson
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OT: Corrupt .docx file

2013-02-06 Thread Pat Christenson

Hi -

Please excuse this OT post but the people on this list are so knowledgable. I'm 
hoping someone can point me in the right direction.

I have a Word .docx file that won't open. I discovered that there's an XML- and 
equations-related bug (thanks, Microsoft!) that works like this: You open a 
.doc or .docx file,  build a lot of equations, save as .docx and close. When 
you try to re-open it, it won't open and you get a message saying "there's a 
problem with the content."

I've done a lot of research online and tried every converter and rebuilder I 
can find but nothing opens this. The client can't afford to have me redo the 
work.

Can anyone recommend someone who can get into this and fix the XML? Preferably, 
free or cheap.

Because this is OT, you may want to reply  offlist.

Thank you SO MUCH for any help.

Pat Christenson

Re: FrameMaker 10 does not start (licensing expired)

2013-01-02 Thread Pat Christenson

On behalf of my clients and myself, I want to that everyone on this list who 
contributed to making this so problem so visible and those who took action to 
quickly solve it.

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2013-01-02 Thread Pat Christenson

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Re: menu-command macro recorder utility for FM?

2012-11-28 Thread Pat Christenson

I can second this. I used AutoIT to automate tasks and it is very easy to 
learn! Not quite as simple as a macro recorder but not a nightmare.

Pat Christenson


On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:15 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

 You can use AutoIt for a lot of what you want to do. It's a very easy to 
 learn scripting language that selects windows and types for you. Since in 
 Windows you can do most tasks with ALT and CTRL keys, typing is enough to do 
 most tasks. You can also use it for mouse clicks, but that takes a bit more 
 work. The pods that were introduced in FM9 are a problem for AutoIt because 
 the pods don't have standard window names and you can use ALT keys on them, 
 but the main windows work fine.
 
 The main advantage of AutoIt is that it's really easy to learn and you can 
 use it for any Windows program.
 
 Attached is a PPT presentation (in PDF format) and some sample files.
 
 Regards,
 Shmuel Wolfson
 052-763-7133
 
 On 27-Nov-12 8:59 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
 Is there an old-fashioned menu-command macro recorder that's
 compatible with FrameMaker 10?
 
 I want to automate some simple but time-consuming build processes. For
 example: open book, set conditions, update, save as PDF, set
 conditions, update, close book, launch batch file to generate online
 help.
 
 Both ExtendScript and FrameScript require that I learn a complex
 object model and neither comes with sample scripts or straightforward
 documentation on doing the kind of stuff I need to do. Both seem
 designed for developers who want to extend or customize the
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2012-11-28 Thread Pat Christenson

I can second this. I used AutoIT to automate tasks and it is very easy to 
learn! Not quite as simple as a macro recorder but not a nightmare.

Pat Christenson


On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:15 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

> You can use AutoIt for a lot of what you want to do. It's a very easy to 
> learn scripting language that selects windows and types for you. Since in 
> Windows you can do most tasks with ALT and CTRL keys, typing is enough to do 
> most tasks. You can also use it for mouse clicks, but that takes a bit more 
> work. The pods that were introduced in FM9 are a problem for AutoIt because 
> the pods don't have standard window names and you can use ALT keys on them, 
> but the main windows work fine.
> 
> The main advantage of AutoIt is that it's really easy to learn and you can 
> use it for any Windows program.
> 
> Attached is a PPT presentation (in PDF format) and some sample files.
> 
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> 052-763-7133
> 
> On 27-Nov-12 8:59 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
>> Is there an old-fashioned menu-command macro recorder that's
>> compatible with FrameMaker 10?
>> 
>> I want to automate some simple but time-consuming build processes. For
>> example: open book, set conditions, update, save as PDF, set
>> conditions, update, close book, launch batch file to generate online
>> help.
>> 
>> Both ExtendScript and FrameScript require that I learn a complex
>> object model and neither comes with sample scripts or straightforward
>> documentation on doing the kind of stuff I need to do. Both seem
>> designed for developers who want to extend or customize the
>> application, not for end users who want to automate common tasks.
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Re: Powerpoint to FrameMaker

2012-11-27 Thread Pat Christenson

The version I have can only save the outline as rtf.

Pat


On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

 My copy of PowerPoint (2010 aka 14) can't save as .doc or .docx, only .rtf.
 
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 You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be really
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2012-11-27 Thread Pat Christenson

The version I have can only save the outline as rtf.

Pat


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> My copy of PowerPoint (2010 aka 14) can't save as .doc or .docx, only .rtf.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Bill Swallow  
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Powerpoint to FrameMaker

2012-11-26 Thread Pat Christenson

I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be transferred 
to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure but if anyone 
has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.

I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.

Thanks!

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SOLVED (sort of) Powerpoint to FrameMaker

2012-11-26 Thread Pat Christenson

Here's what I've come up with.

I save the Powerpoint file as a PDF, then use Able2Doc to convert the PDF to 
Word. (I've found I get a very clean conversion after using Able2Doc.)

I imported the resulting Word file into FrameMaker. Text and graphics are 
imported cleanly.

There's still a lot of manual cleanup but I think it's better than 
Cut-and-Paste.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Pat


On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Bill Swallow wrote:

 You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be really 
 depends on how the PPT was designed.
 
 
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 I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be transferred 
 to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure but if anyone 
 has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.
 
 I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.
 
 Thanks!
 
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2012-11-26 Thread Pat Christenson

I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be transferred 
to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure but if anyone 
has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.

I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.

Thanks!

Pat Christenson

SOLVED (sort of) Powerpoint to FrameMaker

2012-11-26 Thread Pat Christenson

Here's what I've come up with.

I save the Powerpoint file as a PDF, then use Able2Doc to convert the PDF to 
Word. (I've found I get a very clean conversion after using Able2Doc.)

I imported the resulting Word file into FrameMaker. Text and graphics are 
imported cleanly.

There's still a lot of manual cleanup but I think it's better than 
Cut-and-Paste.

Thanks for the suggestions!

Pat


On Nov 26, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Bill Swallow wrote:

> You can save PPT to Word and import that into FM. How easy it'll be really 
> depends on how the PPT was designed.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Pat Christenson  wrote:
> I have material in Powerpoint (text and graphics) that need to be transferred 
> to FrameMaker 9. I'm assuming this is a cut-and-paste procedure but if anyone 
> has any tips, I'd appreciate hearing about them.
> 
> I have PowerPoint for both Mac and Windows, if that helps any.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Pat Christenson
> 
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Re: changing the graphics runaround props default

2012-11-20 Thread Pat Christenson

And I heartily endorse this plugin.

Pat Christenson


On Nov 20, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

 Hi Ken,
  
 No, and thus my RunaroundNone plugin J.
  
 Rick
  
 Rick Quatro
 Carmen Publishing Inc.
 585-283-5045
 r...@frameexpert.com
  
  
  
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
 Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:34 AM
 To: FrameMaker Users List
 Subject: changing the graphics runaround props default
  
 This MAY have been asked previously but I don't recall seeing it.
 
 Is there a way of changing the Graphics -- Runaround Properties from the 
 default Runaround and Contour to a new default Not Runaround?
 
 For our purposes here, this new default is what we need.
 
 -- Ken in Atlanta
 
 
 From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Sent: Tue, November 20, 2012 7:45:01 AM
 Subject: Re: font change not appearing in Autonumber
 
 I was trying to avoid having to change anything in the documents. If I
 were going to edit the styles, I'd just use the bullet building block.
 
 Eventually I figured out that the fundamental problem was that the
 docs department's master font directory had only one of the two files
 required to install the Type 1 version of ZapfDingbats.
 
 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Grant Hogarth gr...@hedgewizard.net wrote:
  have you tried using Alt+0149 (U2202) for the numbering character?
  Grant
 
 
  On 11/14/2012 4:40 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
 
  FM10. Inherited documents, template has evolved over maybe 15 years so
  there's a lot of legacy cruft.
 
  I have a Bullet1 paragraph tag. Its Autonumber Format is l\t (that's a
  lowercase L before the backslash). The Character Format for the
  autonumber is Bullet. The font for the Bullet character tag was once
  upon a time Zapf Dingbats but it gets remapped to Adobe Pi Std.
 
  On my predecessor's machine, Bullet1 had a round bullet, maybe because
  he had a different Zapf Dingbats, I don't know (machine has been wiped
  so I can't check it). On my machine, instead of a bullet there's a
  question mark.
 
  I was unable to get font mapping to work so I hacked Adobe Pi Std to
  add the bullet glyph from Zapf Dingbats BT Regular and map it to l.
 
  If I type an l and format it with the Bullet character tag, it appears
  as a bullet, but Bullet1 still has a question mark in place of a
  bullet.
 
  Suggestions?
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changing the graphics runaround props default

2012-11-20 Thread Pat Christenson

And I heartily endorse this plugin.

Pat Christenson


On Nov 20, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

> Hi Ken,
>  
> No, and thus my RunaroundNone plugin J.
>  
> Rick
>  
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 585-283-5045
> rick at frameexpert.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
> lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:34 AM
> To: FrameMaker Users List
> Subject: changing the graphics runaround props default
>  
> This MAY have been asked previously but I don't recall seeing it.
> 
> Is there a way of changing the Graphics --> Runaround Properties from the 
> default "Runaround and Contour" to a new default "Not Runaround"?
> 
> For our purposes here, this new default is what we need.
> 
> -- Ken in Atlanta
> 
> 
> From: Robert Lauriston 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Sent: Tue, November 20, 2012 7:45:01 AM
> Subject: Re: font change not appearing in Autonumber
> 
> I was trying to avoid having to change anything in the documents. If I
> were going to edit the styles, I'd just use the bullet building block.
> 
> Eventually I figured out that the fundamental problem was that the
> docs department's master font directory had only one of the two files
> required to install the Type 1 version of ZapfDingbats.
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Grant Hogarth  
> wrote:
> > have you tried using Alt+0149 (U2202) for the numbering character?
> > Grant
> >
> >
> > On 11/14/2012 4:40 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> >>
> >> FM10. Inherited documents, template has evolved over maybe 15 years so
> >> there's a lot of legacy cruft.
> >>
> >> I have a Bullet1 paragraph tag. Its Autonumber Format is l\t (that's a
> >> lowercase L before the backslash). The Character Format for the
> >> autonumber is Bullet. The font for the Bullet character tag was once
> >> upon a time Zapf Dingbats but it gets remapped to Adobe Pi Std.
> >>
> >> On my predecessor's machine, Bullet1 had a round bullet, maybe because
> >> he had a different Zapf Dingbats, I don't know (machine has been wiped
> >> so I can't check it). On my machine, instead of a bullet there's a
> >> question mark.
> >>
> >> I was unable to get font mapping to work so I hacked Adobe Pi Std to
> >> add the bullet glyph from Zapf Dingbats BT Regular and map it to l.
> >>
> >> If I type an l and format it with the Bullet character tag, it appears
> >> as a bullet, but Bullet1 still has a question mark in place of a
> >> bullet.
> >>
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Re: Wildcards not working as expected: detect empty paras

2012-11-15 Thread Pat Christenson

I've often wondered - is there a wildcards combination that skips paragraphs 
with anchors?

Pat Christenson


On Nov 15, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

 Hi Steve,
 
 Try \P\p
 
 Be careful, though, as it will find paragraphs that have table anchors,
 marker anchors, etc.
 
 Rick
 
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 585-283-5045
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 Subject: Wildcards not working as expected: detect empty paras
 
 I would have expected the wildcard expression '^$' to detect empty
 lines/paras, but it does not seem to. Does anyone have a wildcard expression
 that *will* find blank lines/empty paras?
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Wildcards not working as expected: detect empty paras

2012-11-15 Thread Pat Christenson

I've often wondered - is there a wildcards combination that skips paragraphs 
with anchors?

Pat Christenson


On Nov 15, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

> Hi Steve,
> 
> Try \P\p
> 
> Be careful, though, as it will find paragraphs that have table anchors,
> marker anchors, etc.
> 
> Rick
> 
> Rick Quatro
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> rick at frameexpert.com
> 
> 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Wildcards not working as expected: detect empty paras
> 
> I would have expected the wildcard expression '^$' to detect empty
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> that *will* find blank lines/empty paras?
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Re: Converting Framemaker to Sharepoint

2012-09-18 Thread Pat Christenson

one of my clients uses Sharepoint to track FrameMaker, PDFs and a variety of 
files.

Pat


On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

 SharePoint is not a format. It supports a wide variety of formats. Can
 you be more specific about what you're supposed to do?
 
 Typically people use SharePoint as a library for Microsoft Office
 documents, so you could export to Word and put that in SharePoint. Or
 you could save as PDF and put that in SharePoint, though in my
 experience it doesn't work as well with non-MS formats.
 
 Do you have any FM add-ons such as RoboHelp, WebWorks, or MIF2Go?
 
 On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Gilberti, Cynthia
 cynthia.gilbe...@dcsg.com wrote:
 Unfortunately, I’ve lost the Framemaker debate and
 my company has elected to convert manual content to Sharepoint.
 Can anyone provide information how to effectively convert framemaker content
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Converting Framemaker to Sharepoint

2012-09-18 Thread Pat Christenson

one of my clients uses Sharepoint to track FrameMaker, PDFs and a variety of 
files.

Pat


On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

> SharePoint is not a format. It supports a wide variety of formats. Can
> you be more specific about what you're supposed to do?
> 
> Typically people use SharePoint as a library for Microsoft Office
> documents, so you could export to Word and put that in SharePoint. Or
> you could save as PDF and put that in SharePoint, though in my
> experience it doesn't work as well with non-MS formats.
> 
> Do you have any FM add-ons such as RoboHelp, WebWorks, or MIF2Go?
> 
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Gilberti, Cynthia
>  wrote:
>> Unfortunately, I?ve lost the Framemaker debate and
>> my company has elected to convert manual content to Sharepoint.
>> Can anyone provide information how to effectively convert framemaker content
>> to Sharepoint so I don?t have to cut and paste?
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