RE: FrameMaker index question

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Don't feel bad Richard. I am right there with you!!

Thanks Shlomo - after all these years, duh! Learned something new and
learned it the right way.

sigh It's only Monday, right? /sigh

Tammy Van Boening
Curriculum Developer 
Charter University
Charter Communications, Inc.
tammy.vanboen...@chartercom.com

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Richard
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:00 PM
To: Shlomo Perets; fram...@frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker index question

Shlomo Perets wrote:
 
 If you examine the index in the sample Ecology book (included in the
 samples/overview/book folder under the FrameMaker installation
folder), and
 inspect the hypertext markers and their active area, you will see that
the
 index terms are active together with the first hypertext markers, as
single
 links. However, if the definitions had been such that the page numbers
had
 a different character format, this would have interfered with the link
 extending to include the term.

I should have known Shlomo was correct, and I apologize for doubting
him. It took me a while to figure out why my experience was different. 

I knew there was no char format applied anywhere in my index entries or
in the ref page index spec. And before posting, I confirmed that my
Level1IX and IndexIX pgf formats had the same Default Font settings. 

So why does the active area in my indexes not extend to the left of the
page number? 

Um, well ... because the SeparatorsIX pgf has different Default Font
settings. And as a consequence, the space before the page number has a
different font, terminating the active area. 

The origin of this SeparatorsIX pgf format are lost in the mists of
time. This is the behavior I've seen for as long as I can remember, and
I assumed it was just The Way Things Worked. 

In the immortal words of Emily Littela, Oh. That's different. Never
mind! 

(Sorry, Shlomo!)

Richard


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FrameMaker index question

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Don't feel bad Richard. I am right there with you!!

Thanks Shlomo - after all these years, duh! Learned something new and
learned it the right way.

 It's only Monday, right? 

Tammy Van Boening
Curriculum Developer 
Charter University
Charter Communications, Inc.
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs,
Richard
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 2:00 PM
To: Shlomo Perets; Framers at frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FrameMaker index question

Shlomo Perets wrote:

> If you examine the index in the sample Ecology book (included in the
> samples/overview/book folder under the FrameMaker installation
folder), and
> inspect the hypertext markers and their active area, you will see that
the
> index terms are active together with the first hypertext markers, as
single
> links. However, if the definitions had been such that the page numbers
had
> a different character format, this would have interfered with the link
> extending to include the term.

I should have known Shlomo was correct, and I apologize for doubting
him. It took me a while to figure out why my experience was different. 

I knew there was no char format applied anywhere in my index entries or
in the ref page index spec. And before posting, I confirmed that my
Level1IX and IndexIX pgf formats had the same Default Font settings. 

So why does the active area in my indexes not extend to the left of the
page number? 

Um, well ... because the SeparatorsIX pgf has different Default Font
settings. And as a consequence, the space before the page number has a
different font, terminating the active area. 

The origin of this SeparatorsIX pgf format are lost in the mists of
time. This is the behavior I've seen for as long as I can remember, and
I assumed it was just The Way Things Worked. 

In the immortal words of Emily Littela, "Oh. That's different. Never
mind!" 

(Sorry, Shlomo!)

Richard


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Two rows of columns each with different shading?

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Is it possible to have two headers rows in a Framemaker table each with
a different shading? In word, I know that I can shade rows individually,
then select them to say repeat as heading rows, but is there a
comparable ability in FM? Right now, when I am setting up a table, I say
add a row to the header row, and I can select the first row and apply
shading to it, but for some reason, I can't seem to individually select
the second row in the heading row and apply a different shading. If I
change the shading to the second row, then the first row's shading is
changed to that of the second row. 

 

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Two rows of columns each with different shading?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Is it possible to have two headers rows in a Framemaker table each with
a different shading? In word, I know that I can shade rows individually,
then select them to say "repeat as heading rows", but is there a
comparable ability in FM? Right now, when I am setting up a table, I say
add a row to the header row, and I can select the first row and apply
shading to it, but for some reason, I can't seem to individually select
the second row in the heading row and apply a different shading. If I
change the shading to the second row, then the first row's shading is
changed to that of the second row. 



TIA,



TVB



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Sorry for the bandwidth, but is the Frameusers site functioning?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

All,

I have been trying in vain to unsubscribe from the framers list and
tech-whirl list for several days now as I am leaving this gig and will
soon have a new email address; however, no luck. No matter what I do,
whenever I log in, I either get timed out or when I try to unsubscribe,
an access denied message. I even tried sending an email direct to the
listadmin email address that is listed on the first page of the website,
but I get immediate bounce back from that as undeliverable. Has anyone
else been experiencing these or similar problems with the site?

TIA,

TVB

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Sorry for the bandwidth, but is the Frameusers site functioning?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

All,

I have been trying in vain to unsubscribe from the framers list and
tech-whirl list for several days now as I am leaving this gig and will
soon have a new email address; however, no luck. No matter what I do,
whenever I log in, I either get timed out or when I try to unsubscribe,
an access denied message. I even tried sending an email direct to the
listadmin email address that is listed on the first page of the website,
but I get immediate bounce back from that as undeliverable. Has anyone
else been experiencing these or similar problems with the site?

TIA,

TVB

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Links in framemaker source files to PDFs?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

All,

I have a directory structure on my hard drive that is going to be burned
verbatim to a CD. In this structure, I have a Framemaker file that I
want to contain links to the PDFs that are contained in various
directories throughout. I want these links to jump to the indicated
PDF when I click on the link in the framemaker file and have the PDF
open (I also want to convert the framemaker file to a PDF so that when I
click on these links in the PDF, the same thing happens). 

I know, I know - this has been covered so many times before, but I am on
a tight, tight deadline and the archives are hard to search. Like I
said, the absolute path of the framemaker/pdf file to the various pdfs
will remain the same when I burn to CD, so. . . 

How do I need to set up my links in the Framemaker file and is there
anything special that I need to do to the PDFs?

TIA,

TVB

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Links in framemaker source files to PDFs?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

All,

I have a directory structure on my hard drive that is going to be burned
verbatim to a CD. In this structure, I have a Framemaker file that I
want to contain links to the PDFs that are contained in various
directories throughout. I want these links to "jump to" the indicated
PDF when I click on the link in the framemaker file and have the PDF
open (I also want to convert the framemaker file to a PDF so that when I
click on these links in the PDF, the same thing happens). 

I know, I know - this has been covered so many times before, but I am on
a tight, tight deadline and the archives are hard to search. Like I
said, the absolute path of the framemaker/pdf file to the various pdfs
will remain the same when I burn to CD, so. . . 

How do I need to set up my links in the Framemaker file and is there
anything special that I need to do to the PDFs?

TIA,

TVB

Tammy L. Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
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OT (kinda') - Funky problem with ePublisher Pro and MS Word

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Although this addresses a Word issue, it's because of ePublisher Pro, so
I am hoping those of you who also work with ePublisher Pro may know
something about this:



I recently installed ePublisher Version 9.2 on my PC (Windows XP with
SP2 and Office 2003) for use with Framemaker (but of course, ePublisher
Pro now also works with MS Word). It was a straightforward install
without any issues - I simply accepted the standard installation and
clicked Next all the way through the install wizard and then waited for
the installation to complete. When I open Framemaker documents, I have
no issue; however, when I open a Word document, it's a crap shoot.
Sometimes, a Word document will open just fine and I have a single
instance of the WebWorks toolbar appear; however, for other documents,
they take like 3 to 5 minutes to open, I get a wonderful strobe light
effect, and I get no less than 25 instances (no joke, I have counted) of
the WebWorks toolbar opening. Argh! I have to wait for all these
instances to open before I can get to the Word doc., and as a result of
these WebWorks publisher toolbars, my standard toolbars are
collapsed/compressed or not visible at all. I have to waste like the
next five minutes closing all but once instance of the WebWorks toolbar.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why on earth this happens with
some Word documents, and not others, and quite frankly, why it happens
at all. I have never had toolbar issues with Word documents until AFTER
I installed ePublisher Pro, and I am getting quite frustrated. Like I
said, it was a standard install, so whatever is causing this is "behind
the scenes" and well out of my control.

Has anyone seen this really, really weird problem with Word before (OK,
I know weird problems and Word go hand in hand, but I am classifying
this as a really, really weird problem!) and knows what to about it? Any
and all advice/input/help is sincerely appreciated.

TIA,

TVB


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Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
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RE: Text insets: to be or not to be?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Shmuel,

Index entries work in text insets just as in a container file; however,
x-refs. within an inset require special consideration. You can either
manually manipulate them to work in the final output or you can use a
script from Rick Quatro to automate this. The best practice for a
variety of reasons is to indeed NOT include the heading in a text inset.
I have given several presentations on this topic and if you're
interested in receiving a copy, contact me offline and I can send you
one.

HTH,

TVB


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:35 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Text insets: to be or not to be?

I use text insets for individual sections and make sure not to include
the heading in the text inset. This way if the heading is a different
heading level in 2 different manuals, it won't interfere. Also, if I
include the heading in the text inset, I'm not sure what would happen
when I try to cross-reference to it or to add an index entry to the
heading.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
052-763-7133



Martinek, Carla wrote:
 -Original Message-

 The first couple of pages of the Preface contain the doc info 
 (audience, scope, purpose, structure, etc.), and the stuff that's 
 shared among the docs is in the latter 3/4 of the Preface. Would it 
 work to split it into two files (the first part with all the 
 doc-specific stuff just set up as a regular template, and the second 
 part set up as a single-sourced file that everyone could point to from
their books)?
 --

 In a short, simple, answer -- Yes.  By breaking your content into 
 shorter topical files, you can increase their reuse.

 Our general standard here is to break apart files when they have a 
 top-level (Heading 1, etc.) heading.  We've got 1000+ different 
 topical files that we can reuse between docs as necessary.  Some files

 can be reused across multiple product lines; some only within product
lines.

 We got away from text insets because of some inherent problems we were

 having with them, and build the books by linking the topical files 
 together.  For example, a book might look like this:

 Cover
 Copyright
 Toc
 About This Doc__FrontPage
   About_contacts_tech_support  (reused across all product lines)
   About_doc_conventions
 Intro__FrontPage
   External_view  (reused within product lines)
   Media_compartment
   front_panel
   Firmware_language_modes
 Operations_FrontPage
   etc.
   Etc.

 We create a intro page (FrontPage) for each chapter, and then link in 
 the topical files behind it. It works for us.  We have one writer who 
 maintains all of the UG/QRG files for 6 product lines and several OEM 
 versions. I think at last count she was responsible for 25+ active 
 manuals, and by sharing the content this way, she manages to keep 
 things updated and meet deadlines and release dates.

 We set this up with the expectation that we will be moving to 
 structured content (XML/DITA), and topical is the way to go for that.

 Also, once we move the topical content to XML, our Tech Support Help 
 Desk will easily be able to grab and reuse the content for their
needs.

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List of imported graphics

[Van Boening, Tammy]

My apologies in advance - I know that this has been discussed before on
the list, but I can't find it in the archives. I have a graphics folder
for a Frame book that contains not only all of the graphics that are
imported by reference into the various book files, but also, a bunch of
graphic that I don't need to use anymore, that are outdated and/or
incorrect graphics and so on. Before I check all of my folders into
ClearCase, I want to delete these junk graphics that are just taking
up space. How do I go about generating a list of what graphics are
actually used where in the book.  (I obviously want to compare this list
to the actual directory contents and nuke those from the directory that
don't appear on the list.) If I had only a small amount of graphics, I
could do this manually, but I have over several hundred graphics (it's a
BIG book), so . . .


TIA,

TVB

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RE: List of imported graphics

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Richard, Rene, Yves, et. al. 
 
Thanks so much for the valuable information. Nice way to manage project
information. This list is awesome.
 
TGIF,
 
TVB
 

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From: Rene Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 8:52 AM
To: Yves Barbion; Van Boening, Tammy
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: List of imported graphics


We still include the Index of References before using the archive
plugin, so that you can tell at a glance if the graphic was originally a
shared graphic with some other project... due to the way we've named our
shared folders. We don't keep the IOR in the book file, but we do keep
it in the project folder and include it with the archive.

HTH
Rene Stephenson

Yves Barbion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

I use Bruce Foster's Archive plug-in for this purpose 
(http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/Archive.htm):

1. Archive my Frame book to a different (target) folder.
2. Delete all the graphics in the source folder.
3. Move the target folder back to the source.

Works great, but you need to be careful when you have several
books in 
several folders which use common graphics.


Yves Barbion 
Documentation Architect
Adobe-Certified FrameMaker Instructor


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Van Boening, Tammy wrote:
 My apologies in advance - I know that this has been discussed
before on
 the list, but I can't find it in the archives. I have a
graphics folder
 for a Frame book that contains not only all of the graphics
that are
 imported by reference into the various book files, but also, a
bunch of
 graphic that I don't need to use anymore, that are outdated
and/or
 incorrect graphics and so on. Before I check all of my folders
into
 ClearCase, I want to delete these junk graphics that are
just taking
 up space. How do I go about generating a list of what graphics
are
 actually used where in the book. (I obviously want to compare
this list
 to the actual directory contents and nuke those from the
directory that
 don't appear on the list.) If I had only a small amount of
graphics, I
 could do this manually, but I have over several hundred
graphics (it's a
 BIG book), so . . .


 TIA,

 TVB

 Tammy L. Van Boening
 Senior Technical Writer
 Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
 Property and Casualty Division
 303-729-7733
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List of imported graphics

[Van Boening, Tammy]

My apologies in advance - I know that this has been discussed before on
the list, but I can't find it in the archives. I have a graphics folder
for a Frame book that contains not only all of the graphics that are
imported by reference into the various book files, but also, a bunch of
graphic that I don't need to use anymore, that are outdated and/or
incorrect graphics and so on. Before I check all of my folders into
ClearCase, I want to delete these "junk" graphics that are just taking
up space. How do I go about generating a list of what graphics are
actually used where in the book.  (I obviously want to compare this list
to the actual directory contents and nuke those from the directory that
don't appear on the list.) If I had only a small amount of graphics, I
could do this manually, but I have over several hundred graphics (it's a
BIG book), so . . .


TIA,

TVB

Tammy L. Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
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RE: Getting something ignored during spell checking

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Thanks to Grant, John, Penelope, et. Al. for the replies. I will try a
few of these out and see which works for me the best.

Thanks again,

TVB 


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-Original Message-
From: John Posada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:08 PM
To: Van Boening, Tammy; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Getting something ignored during spell checking

Tammy...you don't have to go through that series of menu selections to
pick a variable.

From your keyboard, enter CTRL 0 to display the available variables in
the bottom space of your FM document..you can scroll thrtough the list
with your cursor keys.

Enter CTRL 0 L Enter where L would be the defined letter of the
variable and 0 is the zero character, not the alpha  character.

Note...you have to create these variables first. so, create a variable
named X for .xml file and a variable named P for PDF, etc, then type:

CTRL 0 X Enter to enter the variable string .XML file or CTRL 0
P Enter for the variable string .PDF file in the text.

 turned on, I still find that I have extra spaces every now and then 
 which is freaky to me, but . . .) I don't want to make this file type 
 a variable because Special  Variable  Insert is a lot more time 
 consuming than just rapidly typing .xml file - (believe me, as many 
 times as this is used in this guide, a variable is not the way to go.)

Actualy, because it is used so much makes a variable THE way to go.


John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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So far, so good.
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Framemaker 7.2, Windows XP with SP2

I am currently writing a Developer's Guide that references heavy use of
xml files. Our styles and standards call for referring to any file type
as . file; for example, the .xml file, an .xml file, the .pdf
file, and so on. Obviously, when I run spell check on any file in this
book, Framemaker is flagging these entries as an extra space between the
word "the" or "an" and the file type. I don't want to turn off checking
for extra spaces in my spelling checker (although I do have smart spaces
turned on, I still find that I have extra spaces every now and then
which is freaky to me, but . . .) I don't want to make this file type a
variable because Special > Variable > Insert is a lot more time
consuming than just rapidly typing ".xml file" - (believe me, as many
times as this is used in this guide, a variable is not the way to go.)

So, what do I have to have set up in my spell checker rules to avoid any
instance of ".xml" getting ignored? I tried adding ".xml" to the rules,
but it's still getting flagged during spell checking.

TIA,

TVB

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303-729-7733
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Getting something ignored during spell checking

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Thanks to Grant, John, Penelope, et. Al. for the replies. I will try a
few of these out and see which works for me the best.

Thanks again,

TVB 


Tammy L. Van Boening
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-Original Message-
From: John Posada [mailto:jposad...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:08 PM
To: Van Boening, Tammy; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Getting something ignored during spell checking

Tammy...you don't have to go through that series of menu selections to
pick a variable.

RE: Linking from an HTML page to a destination in a PDF file

[Van Boening, Tammy]

From Shlomo Perets:-

It is possible to add a page action to the opening page of a PDF, and
set 
that action to be a web link. In Acrobat 6 or higher, display the Pages 
panel (previously called Thumbnails), right click the first page, and
then 
click the Actions tab; add a Page Open: Open a web link action.

Notice that when such a PDF is displayed in recent versions of 
Acrobat/Reader, a security message will be shown, indicating that the
PDF 
is trying to open a web site (the action can be blocked or allowed; the
web 
site can be learned as a valid one).

If the pdf file is accessed through a web site, another option
altogether 
is to set up an HTML file whose purpose is to redirect the browser to a 
different address, and name it as file with a .pdf extension.

For example, the http://www.microtype.com/Training.pdf file is a text
file 
with the following content:

html
head
meta http-equiv=refresh content=1; 
URL=http://www.microtype.com/training.html;
/head

In this case, redirection is transparent; Acrobat/Reader is not even 
opened, when the pdf file link is clicked in a browser. However, if
such 
a file is opened locally (eg by double-clicking it in Windows Explorer),

Acrobat/Reader will try to open the file as PDF file and an error
message 
will be displayed, indicating that this is not a valid PDF file. 


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Subject: Linking from an HTML page to a destination in a PDF file

I have a request to establish links from an HTML document on my
company's web site to a specific topic within a PDF file produced via
FrameMaker. Has anyone done this before?

 

The HTML page summarizes changes in a recent release and references
about 100 individual features. Each feature has a number and those
numbers appear in the PDF file, but each number appears at least three
times and, in some cases, more often. In only one place is the actual
text they are wanting to link to.

 

Plus, the (PDF) release document is still changing.

 

I can think of ways to do this by pulling the HTML document into
FrameMaker and setting up the links there, then creating HTML (or PDF)
output, but I can't think of a good way to do exactly what I'm asked to
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time-consuming to set up and difficult to maintain.

 

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,

 

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RE: Unresolved text insets and relinking images

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Framescript! I had to relink several hundred text insets once and it was
either a tedious one by one manual process, or use the best $200 ever
and buy Framescript and get Rick Quatro to write a script that did this
relinking with like two clicks. It was a dream.

TVB 


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-Original Message-
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] On Behalf Of Natalie Bircher
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:51 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Unresolved text insets and relinking images

I need to move frame files and get unresolved text insets after I
regenerate and end up having to re-link them all. Is there a way to keep
these linked, or am I stuck importing them again?

Also, we moved our library of images (don't ask why!) and now I have to
re-link all the images. Any suggestions to make this less tedious and
keep me from getting carpal tunnel? 

 

I have two issues that have resulted because of having to move Frame
files.
The first one is that I have to re-link all the images because it was
decided to move the image catalog to another server. Is there an
easier
way to do this? The second issue is that I get unresolved text insets
for the canned warnings we use. I have to re-import these too. This is
extremely tedious and hard on the mousing wrist! Any suggestions?

 

 

Natalie Bircher

Technical Writer

BackStreet Media

Phone: 320-843-4337 

Fax: 320-842-4236

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Unresolved text insets and relinking images

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Framescript! I had to relink several hundred text insets once and it was
either a tedious one by one manual process, or use the best $200 ever
and buy Framescript and get Rick Quatro to write a script that did this
relinking with like two clicks. It was a dream.

TVB 


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From: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv.com at lists.frameusers.com
] On Behalf Of Natalie Bircher
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:51 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Unresolved text insets and relinking images

I need to move frame files and get unresolved text insets after I
regenerate and end up having to re-link them all. Is there a way to keep
these linked, or am I stuck importing them again?

Also, we moved our library of images (don't ask why!) and now I have to
re-link all the images. Any suggestions to make this less tedious and
keep me from getting carpal tunnel? 



I have two issues that have resulted because of having to move Frame
files.
The first one is that I have to re-link all the images because it was
decided to move the image catalog to another server. Is there an
"easier"
way to do this? The second issue is that I get unresolved text insets
for the "canned" warnings we use. I have to re-import these too. This is
extremely tedious and hard on the mousing wrist! Any suggestions?





Natalie Bircher

Technical Writer

BackStreet Media

Phone: 320-843-4337 

Fax: 320-842-4236

Email:  
natalieb at backstreetmedia.com



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RE: Xref's from Tables don't work from text insets

[Van Boening, Tammy]

You can also set this up manually to work if you don't have framescript.
I have given two presentations on this and have a summary of how to do
it. Contact me offlist if you would like the information.

TVB 


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Subject: RE: Xref's from Tables don't work from text insets

Cross-references that are located inside a text inset never work as
hyperlinks in PDF. Doesn't matter whether they're inside a table or in
the body text. Explicit hypertext commands do work, but not hyperlinks
that are created by cross-references. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ

 

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Subject: Xref's from Tables don't work from text insets

Can anybody tell me why my xref's inside tables don't work in the PDF
output when the table is part of a FM file that has been imported into
another FM file?  The xref's work fine in my help output (CHM generated
via WebWorks 9.0).  I'm using FM 7.0, by the way.

Thanks!

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Xref's from Tables don't work from text insets

[Van Boening, Tammy]

You can also set this up manually to work if you don't have framescript.
I have given two presentations on this and have a summary of how to do
it. Contact me offlist if you would like the information.

TVB 


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[mailto:framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv.com at lists.frameusers.com
] On Behalf Of Ridder, Fred
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:55 AM
To: Ed Lightle; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Xref's from Tables don't work from text insets

Cross-references that are located inside a text inset never work as
hyperlinks in PDF. Doesn't matter whether they're inside a table or in
the body text. Explicit hypertext commands do work, but not hyperlinks
that are created by cross-references. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ



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Behalf Of Ed Lightle
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:50 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Xref's from Tables don't work from text insets

Can anybody tell me why my xref's inside tables don't work in the PDF
output when the table is part of a FM file that has been imported into
another FM file?  The xref's work fine in my help output (CHM generated
via WebWorks 9.0).  I'm using FM 7.0, by the way.

Thanks!

Ed Lightle
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Dublin, Ohio
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OT: Geeky Friday Humor

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So, on the way into work today, I saw the following on a license plate:
RGBCMYK and the license plate holder stated that Artists do it
graphically. I was cracking up; however, my husband on the other hand
did not understand why I thought it was so funny and sigh accused me
of yet another round of geeky humor. /sigh
TGIF! 
TVB 


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OT: Geeky Friday Humor

[Van Boening, Tammy]

So, on the way into work today, I saw the following on a license plate:
RGBCMYK and the license plate holder stated that "Artists do it
graphically." I was cracking up; however, my husband on the other hand
did not understand why I thought it was so funny and  accused me
of yet another round of "geeky humor." 
TGIF! 
TVB 


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Geeky Friday Humor

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Yes, it is, but for all of us that on this list that would understand
this plate on first sight - groan! We have truly obtained the ultimate
level of geekdom!  LOL!

TGIF to everyone,

TVB 


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] On Behalf Of Bill Swallow
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 12:16 PM
To: Sarah O'Keefe
Cc: framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Geeky Friday Humor

Now THAT is funny!

On 4/20/07, Sarah O'Keefe  wrote:
> There's a car in our area that has a license plate that reads:
>
> FEATURE
>
> You get ONE guess as to the model.
>
> Sarah
>
> Hint: It's a VW...


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OT: An interesting article about Microsoft vs. Adobe

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Obviously, take with a grain of salt, but some interesting points,
nonetheless.

TVB

http://www.9news.com/money/article.aspx?storyid=68237

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RE: Table title alignment oddity

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As crazy it sounds, do you have a special tag for the table anchor - if
so, what is its pagination properties?  


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Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity

 
The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. 

~
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To: Linda G. Gallagher
Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity

For the table title, do you have the pagination set to in column or
across all columns and sideheads? 

TVB


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Subject: Table title alignment oddity

Framers,

I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. My client and I are both
seeing this odd and inconsistent behavior and neither of us can explain
or fix it. :o

Our template has side heads set up and several table styles. When we
insert one style of table, both the table and the table title will go
all the way to across the side head area. When we insert another table
style, they don't. Both table styles and the table title style are set
to 0 First and 0 Left indents (table only has Left, of course).

When we indent the table style that goes across by .25 inches, it aligns
properly (side head area is just .25 inches), but the table title still
goes all the way across the side head area.

We don't want these tables or titles to go across the side head area, so
I indented the table title style, too, to make it align with the main
text.
That worked for the most part, but sometimes that results in the title
being indented .25 from the main text because the box the title is in
starts at the main text margin instead of across the side head area.

The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the main text
area, not in the side head area.

I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is inconsistent
behavior of where tables and table titles align in relation to side head
area. What controls this?

Thanks in advance!


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
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303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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Adjusting dialog box sizes in Framemaker?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Argh, I know that this topic has been covered before, but the archives
keep timing out on my right now and my google search has resulted in
zilch. Isn't there a plugin available from someone/somewhere that allows
you to adjust the sizes of dialog boxes in Framemaker? Like, right now,
when my books are generating/updating, I cannot for the life of me see
the whole path/file name and I need to. Also, in the PDF Setup dialog
box, I have to scroll to see all my bookmarks, and I want to be able to
see them all in one view so that I can make sure that I have  my
indentation levels set up correctly before generating the .pdf.

TIA,

TVB

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OT: An interesting article about Microsoft vs. Adobe

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Obviously, take with a grain of salt, but some interesting points,
nonetheless.

TVB

http://www.9news.com/money/article.aspx?storyid=68237

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Table title alignment oddity

[Van Boening, Tammy]

As crazy it sounds, do you have a special tag for the table anchor - if
so, what is its pagination properties?  


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-Original Message-
From: Linda G. Gallagher [mailto:lin...@techcomplus.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:52 PM
To: Van Boening, Tammy; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity


The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. 

~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates

Manager, STC Consulting and Independent
Contracting SIG
http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html
 


-Original Message-
From: Van Boening, Tammy [mailto:tammy.vanboen...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:21 AM
To: Linda G. Gallagher
Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity

For the table title, do you have the pagination set to in column or
across all columns and sideheads? 

TVB


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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv.com at lists.frameusers.com
] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:13 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Table title alignment oddity

Framers,

I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. My client and I are both
seeing this odd and inconsistent behavior and neither of us can explain
or fix it. :o

Our template has side heads set up and several table styles. When we
insert one style of table, both the table and the table title will go
all the way to across the side head area. When we insert another table
style, they don't. Both table styles and the table title style are set
to 0 First and 0 Left indents (table only has Left, of course).

When we indent the table style that goes across by .25 inches, it aligns
properly (side head area is just .25 inches), but the table title still
goes all the way across the side head area.

We don't want these tables or titles to go across the side head area, so
I indented the table title style, too, to make it align with the main
text.
That worked for the most part, but sometimes that results in the title
being indented .25 from the main text because the box the title is in
starts at the main text margin instead of across the side head area.

The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the main text
area, not in the side head area.

I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is inconsistent
behavior of where tables and table titles align in relation to side head
area. What controls this?

Thanks in advance!


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
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Adjusting dialog box sizes in Framemaker?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Argh, I know that this topic has been covered before, but the archives
keep timing out on my right now and my google search has resulted in
zilch. Isn't there a plugin available from someone/somewhere that allows
you to adjust the sizes of dialog boxes in Framemaker? Like, right now,
when my books are generating/updating, I cannot for the life of me see
the whole path/file name and I need to. Also, in the PDF Setup dialog
box, I have to scroll to see all my bookmarks, and I want to be able to
see them all in one view so that I can make sure that I have  my
indentation levels set up correctly before generating the .pdf.

TIA,

TVB

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Senior Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
tammy.vanboening at fiserv.com
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Generating a list of paragraph tags with properties?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

I am sure that this is a job for Framescript, but darn it, you can do it
in Word without doing anything special (Print  and under Print What,
select Styles), so I am hoping that you can do it on Framemaker. I want
to generate on a per file basis, a list of all paragraph tags used in
the file - I want the name of the tag, and all the properties of the tag
(Basic, Pagination, Advanced, etc.).  

Is this possible?

Thanks,

TVB



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RE: Generating a list of paragraph tags with properties?

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Steve, Jennifer, et. al.

Thanks! Just the info. that I needed.

TVB


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-Original Message-
From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:44 AM
To: Van Boening, Tammy; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Generating a list of paragraph tags with properties?

At 11:23 -0600 17/4/07, Van Boening, Tammy wrote:

I am sure that this is a job for Framescript, but darn it, you can do 
it in Word without doing anything special (Print  and under Print What,

select Styles), so I am hoping that you can do it on Framemaker. I want

to generate on a per file basis, a list of all paragraph tags used in 
the file - I want the name of the tag, and all the properties of the 
tag (Basic, Pagination, Advanced, etc.).

Is this possible?

Yesbut... you need Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools plug-in. (It's only
$10.)

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html

Be aware that such documents can run to hundreds of pages in FrameMaker.

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Generating a list of paragraph tags with properties?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

I am sure that this is a job for Framescript, but darn it, you can do it
in Word without doing anything special (Print  and under Print What,
select Styles), so I am hoping that you can do it on Framemaker. I want
to generate on a per file basis, a list of all paragraph tags used in
the file - I want the name of the tag, and all the properties of the tag
(Basic, Pagination, Advanced, etc.).  

Is this possible?

Thanks,

TVB



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Generating a list of paragraph tags with properties?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Steve, Jennifer, et. al.

Thanks! Just the info. that I needed.

TVB


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-Original Message-
From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:44 AM
To: Van Boening, Tammy; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Generating a list of paragraph tags with properties?

At 11:23 -0600 17/4/07, Van Boening, Tammy wrote:

>I am sure that this is a job for Framescript, but darn it, you can do 
>it in Word without doing anything special (Print  and under Print What,

>select Styles), so I am hoping that you can do it on Framemaker. I want

>to generate on a per file basis, a list of all paragraph tags used in 
>the file - I want the name of the tag, and all the properties of the 
>tag (Basic, Pagination, Advanced, etc.).
>
>Is this possible?

Yesbut... you need Silicon Prairie's Paragraph Tools plug-in. (It's only
$10.)

<http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html>

Be aware that such documents can run to hundreds of pages in FrameMaker.

-- 

Steve

Weird problem in Adobe Acrobat Professional 7.0

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Windows XP, SP2, Adobe Acrobat Professional 7.0 (with all updates). Open
a PDF created from framemaker 7.2 source files. Click and hold the right
mouse button on the scroll down arrow (on the right hand scrolling bar)
and the document starts scrolling along merrily and then boom - all of a
sudden, scrolling locks up and the scroll down arrows disappear from
view and I can't get them back - I have to start using the Page Up/Page
Down keys to move through the document. 

What gives? I have never seen this behavior in other instances of Adobe
Acrobat - just this version on this PC.

Thanks,

TVB

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RE: Weird problem in Adobe Acrobat Professional 7.0

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Sorry - guess I wasn't clear. My bad - it's Friday and I have a cold on
top of that. It's for ANY pdf that I create - not just one in particular
and they are standard PDFs with internal links only. 

Thanks! 

TVB 


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Weird problem in Adobe Acrobat Professional 7.0

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Windows XP, SP2, Adobe Acrobat Professional 7.0 (with all updates). Open
a PDF created from framemaker 7.2 source files. Click and hold the right
mouse button on the scroll down arrow (on the right hand scrolling bar)
and the document starts scrolling along merrily and then boom - all of a
sudden, scrolling locks up and the scroll down arrows disappear from
view and I can't get them back - I have to start using the Page Up/Page
Down keys to move through the document. 

What gives? I have never seen this behavior in other instances of Adobe
Acrobat - just this version on this PC.

Thanks,

TVB

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Property and Casualty Division
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Weird problem in Adobe Acrobat Professional 7.0

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Sorry - guess I wasn't clear. My bad - it's Friday and I have a cold on
top of that. It's for ANY pdf that I create - not just one in particular
and they are standard PDFs with internal links only. 

Thanks! 

TVB 


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Question about setting up master pages for an Index

[Van Boening, Tammy]

A seriously senior moment here or it's just Friday and my brain has
already shut-off.

I am setting up the templates (Cover, TOC, LOF, LOT, Chapter, Appendix,
and Index) to use for our departmental end-user guides. Setting up the
templates for the TOC, LOF, and LOT are a snap; the index, however,  is
giving me fits and although I remember I did this once before, I can't
for the life of me remember how. I have a three column index with three
master pages - First, Right, and Left. Obviously, the First master page
must be applied to the first page of the index and I want the title
Index to appear on this page. Right now, my solution is to place the
autonumbered paragraph tag IndexHead in the header on the first master
page. The autonumbering is set to Index and I have it formatted the
way that I want it with font, bold, underline, etc. but the rub is when
I generate my TOC, I say to include the IndexHead and on the reference
page for the TOC, in the formatting of this TOC entry, I make sure to
use $paranum; however, because this IndexHead tag is used on the
master page, it's not being picked up automatically in the TOC; I would
have to manually add this to the TOC, which defeats the whole purpose of
the TOC. I cannot figure out for the life of me how to get the paragraph
tag on the first BODY page of the index without screwing up the
formatting of the index. Even if I use two separate text boxes with the
same flow (A) and connect the flow of the text box (a single column text
box above the three columns) that is to hold the title Index to the text
flow that is to hold the index entries (the three columns), the index
obviously is not formatted correctly. I get the first index entry
starting in the text box overlapping with the Indexhead paragraph tag.
For the TOC, etc. this isn't an issue, because they all are a single
column file, so after generation the first time, I simply put in a hard
return above the first line of the file and add the autonumbered tags of
TOCTitle, LOFTitle, and so on and I am good to go. 
 
I know I am doing something wrong, but I can't figure out for the life
of my what I am doing wrong. Is it the order that I connect the frames
in the Index or?

Thanks in advance,

TVB

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RE: Question about setting up master pages for an Index

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Thank you Will - and you're right - this topic is indeed poorly indexed.
I searched and searched the OLH, but couldn't find what I needed. I
would have never thought to look up anything about static text.

Thanks,

TVB 


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-Original Message-
From: White, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:02 PM
To: Van Boening, Tammy; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Question about setting up master pages for an Index

Howdy -
The index title should not be on the master page, but in the regular
text flow of the first body page. Check out the FM Manual index topic -
text:static.  This will solve the vexing problem.
And yes, I've learnt and forgotten this same issue several times.
IMHO this topic is poorly indexed.

HTH
Will White
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RE: Question about setting up master pages for an Index

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Thanks for the offlist replies. Got it figured out - man, what a senior
moment that was!

TVB 


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Question about setting up master pages for an Index

[Van Boening, Tammy]

A seriously senior moment here or it's just Friday and my brain has
already shut-off.

I am setting up the templates (Cover, TOC, LOF, LOT, Chapter, Appendix,
and Index) to use for our departmental end-user guides. Setting up the
templates for the TOC, LOF, and LOT are a snap; the index, however,  is
giving me fits and although I remember I did this once before, I can't
for the life of me remember how. I have a three column index with three
master pages - First, Right, and Left. Obviously, the First master page
must be applied to the first page of the index and I want the title
"Index" to appear on this page. Right now, my solution is to place the
autonumbered paragraph tag IndexHead in the header on the first master
page. The autonumbering is set to "Index" and I have it formatted the
way that I want it with font, bold, underline, etc. but the rub is when
I generate my TOC, I say to include the IndexHead and on the reference
page for the TOC, in the formatting of this TOC entry, I make sure to
use <$paranum>; however, because this IndexHead tag is used on the
master page, it's not being picked up automatically in the TOC; I would
have to manually add this to the TOC, which defeats the whole purpose of
the TOC. I cannot figure out for the life of me how to get the paragraph
tag on the first BODY page of the index without screwing up the
formatting of the index. Even if I use two separate text boxes with the
same flow (A) and connect the flow of the text box (a single column text
box above the three columns) that is to hold the title Index to the text
flow that is to hold the index entries (the three columns), the index
obviously is not formatted correctly. I get the first index entry
starting in the text box overlapping with the Indexhead paragraph tag.
For the TOC, etc. this isn't an issue, because they all are a single
column file, so after generation the first time, I simply put in a hard
return above the first line of the file and add the autonumbered tags of
TOCTitle, LOFTitle, and so on and I am good to go. 

I know I am doing something wrong, but I can't figure out for the life
of my what I am doing wrong. Is it the order that I connect the frames
in the Index or?

Thanks in advance,

TVB

Tammy L. Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
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Question about setting up master pages for an Index

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Thank you Will - and you're right - this topic is indeed poorly indexed.
I searched and searched the OLH, but couldn't find what I needed. I
would have never thought to look up anything about static text.

Thanks,

TVB 


Tammy L. Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
tammy.vanboening at fiserv.com
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-Original Message-
From: White, William [mailto:wwh...@onelambda.com] 
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:02 PM
To: Van Boening, Tammy; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Question about setting up master pages for an Index

Howdy -
The index title should not be on the master page, but in the regular
text flow of the first body page. Check out the FM Manual index topic -
text:static.  This will solve the vexing problem.
And yes, I've learnt and forgotten this same issue several times.
IMHO this topic is poorly indexed.

HTH
Will White
One Lambda, Inc



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Question about setting up master pages for an Index

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Thanks for the offlist replies. Got it figured out - man, what a senior
moment that was!

TVB 


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RE: converting Frame to Word

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Yvonne,

I have had to go down this minefield myself and it wasn't fun. I
ultimately used a combination of Mif-2-Go and some valuable, valuable
macros from tech-tav (http://www.tech-tav.com/). These are completely
free macros from a reputable third party that automate many, many things
in Word and get rid of the dreaded master document. From Tech-Tav's
site:

TechTav Macro Suite is used world-wide to replace features and automate
work in Word for Windows 6/7/97/2000/2003/XP. It completely replaces the
Master Document, AutoNumbering, AutoHeadingNumbering, Insert Captions
and Insert Cross-Reference features. Because files are closed when not
being edited, the Tech-Tav replacement for Master Documents does not
cause resource or file-handling problems and does not corrupt documents.
TechTav Macros allows you to number pages, figures and tables across
files. For a full description of the TechTav Macro Suite's
functionality, click here.

Your end users will also need to have Tech-Tav at their end, but they
are painless to download. Also, I had to  make sure that my starting
Framemaker templates were as simple as possible to map to the styles in
Word, so although the final Word templates were ultimately not identical
to the Framemaker source files, they were close enough and my end-users
were happy (well, as  happy as you can be using Word!).

Contact me off list if you want more info.,

HTH,

TVB


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-Original Message-
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] On Behalf Of Yvonne Mills
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:31 AM
To: Framers@frameusers.com
Subject: converting Frame to Word

Hello,

I was recently asked to convert our FrameMaker template into a MS Word
template. Yes, I know this is backwards (and we all know the benefits of
Frame over Word).  However, the reason for this is because another
department wants to make similar-looking documents, but they don't have
FrameMaker.

This is a book template, so it includes several templates (cover
templates, a frontmatter template, chapter templates, appendix
templates, and templates for TOC and IX), with roman numeral numbering
in the fontmatter and regular numbering for the body of the document,
along with cross-reference formats, and some reference page graphics
(for warning and note symbols).

My question for you is: What is the best way to do this?

I was leaning toward using Mif2go to get RTF, and then using Word's
master document to build the book.

Is there a better way?

 
Thanks.

By the way, if it helps:  FrameMaker 7.1 / Windows XP pro SP2 / Word
2003

 
Yvonne Mills
Technical Writer 2
JDSU-ComTest-TFS
+1-540-378-1398

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converting Frame to Word

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Yvonne,

I have had to go down this minefield myself and it wasn't fun. I
ultimately used a combination of Mif-2-Go and some valuable, valuable
macros from tech-tav (http://www.tech-tav.com/). These are completely
free macros from a reputable third party that automate many, many things
in Word and get rid of the dreaded master document. From Tech-Tav's
site:

TechTav Macro Suite is used world-wide to replace features and automate
work in Word for Windows 6/7/97/2000/2003/XP. It completely replaces the
Master Document, AutoNumbering, AutoHeadingNumbering, Insert Captions
and Insert Cross-Reference features. Because files are closed when not
being edited, the Tech-Tav replacement for Master Documents does not
cause resource or file-handling problems and does not corrupt documents.
TechTav Macros allows you to number pages, figures and tables across
files. For a full description of the TechTav Macro Suite's
functionality, click here.

Your end users will also need to have Tech-Tav at their end, but they
are painless to download. Also, I had to  make sure that my starting
Framemaker templates were as simple as possible to map to the styles in
Word, so although the final Word templates were ultimately not identical
to the Framemaker source files, they were close enough and my end-users
were happy (well, as  happy as you can be using Word!).

Contact me off list if you want more info.,

HTH,

TVB


Tammy L. Van Boening
Senior Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
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[mailto:framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv.com at lists.frameusers.com
] On Behalf Of Yvonne Mills
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:31 AM
To: Framers at frameusers.com
Subject: converting Frame to Word

Hello,

I was recently asked to convert our FrameMaker template into a MS Word
template. Yes, I know this is backwards (and we all know the benefits of
Frame over Word).  However, the reason for this is because another
department wants to make similar-looking documents, but they don't have
FrameMaker.

This is a book template, so it includes several "templates" (cover
templates, a frontmatter template, chapter templates, appendix
templates, and templates for TOC and IX), with roman numeral numbering
in the fontmatter and regular numbering for the body of the document,
along with cross-reference formats, and some reference page graphics
(for warning and note symbols).

My question for you is: What is the best way to do this?

I was leaning toward using Mif2go to get RTF, and then using Word's
master document to build the "book".

Is there a better way?


Thanks.

By the way, if it helps:  FrameMaker 7.1 / Windows XP pro SP2 / Word
2003


Yvonne Mills
Technical Writer 2
JDSU-ComTest-TFS
+1-540-378-1398

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RE: Multiple types of page numbering?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Well,

This will require some new paragraph tags to be set up, but it can work. Let me 
understand one thing first - do you want page # of total pages in the book, or 
page # of page (based on page count in the file)? I think you want the first 
one, so:

For the first scenario (page # of total page count in the book)

1.) Go the absolute last page in the document. Open the master page for this 
document. Click in an appropriate place in the header (it must be a blank area) 
and add the variable Page Count. (Special  Variable  Page Count).
2.) Now, select this variable in the header, press Control/M to bring up the 
paragraph designer, and keep everything the same about this variable as the 
rest of the font in the header, with the following exception - change the color 
to white (so it doesn't show) and make this a new paragraph tag and call it 
something like TotalPageCount.
3.)Then, for every header on every master page in every file, add this 
information: Page # of x-ref to total page count, where

Page is free text that you manually enter
# is the variable Current Page # (Special  Variable  Current Page #
of is free text that you manually enter
x-ref to total page count is a cross-reference that you have created called 
something like TotalPageCount, it's format is $paratextDefault ¶ Font, and 
it x-refs the TotalPageCount paragraph tag that you set up on the last page of 
the last file in the book. 

You can then apply either a character tag or a paragraph tag to set this output 
from the cross-reference to the numbering format that you want.

Let me know if this makes any sense at all.

TVB   


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Property and Casualty Division
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Subject: Multiple types of page numbering?


Does anyone know how I can solve the following problem?

Document needs to have the typical page number with small romans for the TOC, 
TOF, etc and Arabic numbering for the other chapters in the book.  (That's no 
problem)

HOWEVER, the problem come in when our contract requires us to have the 
following in the header:
  Pages:  xxx (# of xxx)

I got the header set up, but for the # it pulls from the number of the page in 
the document numbering format.

Help???
I'm sure there's a way to do what I want in FM, but I just haven't figured it 
out.
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Multiple types of page numbering?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Well,

This will require some new paragraph tags to be set up, but it can work. Let me 
understand one thing first - do you want page # of total pages in the book, or 
page # of page (based on page count in the file)? I think you want the first 
one, so:

For the first scenario (page # of total page count in the book)

1.) Go the absolute last page in the document. Open the master page for this 
document. Click in an appropriate place in the header (it must be a blank area) 
and add the variable Page Count. (Special > Variable > Page Count).
2.) Now, select this variable in the header, press Control/M to bring up the 
paragraph designer, and keep everything the same about this variable as the 
rest of the font in the header, with the following exception - change the color 
to white (so it doesn't show) and make this a new paragraph tag and call it 
something like TotalPageCount.
3.)Then, for every header on every master page in every file, add this 
information: Page # of , where

"Page" is free text that you manually enter
"#" is the variable Current Page # (Special > Variable > Current Page #>
"of" is free text that you manually enter
 is a cross-reference that you have created called 
something like TotalPageCount, it's format is <$paratext>, and 
it x-refs the TotalPageCount paragraph tag that you set up on the last page of 
the last file in the book. 

You can then apply either a character tag or a paragraph tag to set this output 
from the cross-reference to the numbering format that you want.

Let me know if this makes any sense at all.

TVB   


Tammy L. Van Boening
Engineering Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
tammy.vanboening at fiserv.com
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[mailto:framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv.com at lists.frameusers.com] On 
Behalf Of mco...@rcn.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:31 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Multiple types of page numbering?


Does anyone know how I can solve the following problem?

Document needs to have the typical page number with small romans for the TOC, 
TOF, etc and Arabic numbering for the other chapters in the book.  (That's no 
problem)

HOWEVER, the problem come in when our contract requires us to have the 
following in the header:
  Pages:  xxx (# of xxx)

I got the header set up, but for the # it pulls from the number of the page in 
the document numbering format.

Help???
I'm sure there's a way to do what I want in FM, but I just haven't figured it 
out.
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RE: Strange PDF Problem

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Diane,

Sorry to disagree, but I use Save As all the time (doing exactly what
Nancy does) and I don't have a problem at all with the links in the
TOC/index still working. Internally, links are not affected by a Save
As, only externally. 

Nancy, if you want contact me offlist and we can discuss further.

TVB 


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] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Strange PDF Problem

Hi Nancy,

This is not a strange problem. It is the way that Acrobat is designed.
The links contain the filenames that exist when you creat them.  You
cannot change the external name of the file afterward and expect the
internal link names to change too.  It doesn't happen.  Your observation
is correct.
Acrobat is looking for the original file names.

The solution is to decide on the final file names before you save as PDF
from Frame.

Hope this helps.

Diane Gaskill
==

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Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:40 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Strange PDF Problem


Hi all,

We are experiencing a strange pdf problem. We have several Frame books
that we create pdf's from. We're using Frame 7.2 and I select the Save
As feature and  then save as pdf. The problem happens when we change the
name of the pdf file to  anything different than the name of the book
file (with the .pdf extension).  Many of the links in the index and TOC
say that the pdf file does not exist  because it seems to be looking for
the name of the book file (with the .pdf  extension) and not the new
name of the pdf file.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks,
Nancy Adams



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Bug that was in Framemaker 5.5.6 still in Framemaker 7.2?

[Van Boening, Tammy]

All,

I remember this bug from Framemaker 5.5.6: 

1.) A Landscape table that extends across more than one page.
2.) ColumnHeaderRow was black with white text for text in
ColumnHeaderRow.
3.) Make a PDF of the Framemaker source file by printing to PS using,
then distilling using Adobe Acrobat.
4.) When printing the PDF, the text in the ColumnHeaderRow for the table
appeared only on the first page for the table. All subsequent pages
showed the table with the black background in the ColumnHeaderRow, but
just white rectangles for the text - not the text itself.

This appears to still be the issue in Framemaker 7.2? At least that's
what I am seeing using Framemaker 7.2, Acrobat Distiller 7.0, and Adobe
Acrobat 7.0 Professional.

I have no choice but to use a landscape table that covers multiple
pages. I tried mucking with the format of the table and changing the
heading row to a white background with black text, but then I just get
the inverted problem accordingly.

Thoughts, suggestions, known patches that I am missing or am I just SOL
for this?

Thanks,

TVB

Tammy L. Van Boening
Engineering Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
tammy.vanboening at fiserv.com
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Strange PDF Problem

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Diane,

Sorry to disagree, but I use Save As all the time (doing exactly what
Nancy does) and I don't have a problem at all with the links in the
TOC/index still working. Internally, links are not affected by a Save
As, only externally. 

Nancy, if you want contact me offlist and we can discuss further.

TVB 


Tammy L. Van Boening
Engineering Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
tammy.vanboening at fiserv.com
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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv.com at lists.frameusers.com
] On Behalf Of Diane Gaskill
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:52 PM
To: ActionA at aol.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Strange PDF Problem

Hi Nancy,

This is not a strange problem. It is the way that Acrobat is designed.
The links contain the filenames that exist when you creat them.  You
cannot change the external name of the file afterward and expect the
internal link names to change too.  It doesn't happen.  Your observation
is correct.
Acrobat is looking for the original file names.

The solution is to decide on the final file names before you save as PDF
from Frame.

Hope this helps.

Diane Gaskill
==

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From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On
Behalf Of ActionA at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:40 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Strange PDF Problem


Hi all,

We are experiencing a strange pdf problem. We have several Frame books
that we create pdf's from. We're using Frame 7.2 and I select the Save
As feature and  then save as pdf. The problem happens when we change the
name of the pdf file to  anything different than the name of the book
file (with the .pdf extension).  Many of the links in the index and TOC
say that the pdf file does not exist  because it seems to be looking for
the name of the book file (with the .pdf  extension) and not the new
name of the pdf file.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks,
Nancy Adams



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RE: Creating special bullets

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Linda,

A nifty little site that I have bookmarked that provides just such
information:

http://www.zakie.fsnet.co.uk/ChatRoomsStuff/Help/wingdingsfontchart.htm

HTH,

TVB 


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] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:48 AM
To: 'Steve Rickaby'
Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Creating special bullets

Rick,

At the risk of sounding stupid, how do you know what letter corresponds
to the symbol you want? That's the crux of my question.

Thanks to Ann and Shlomo for reminding me of how to use the hex code.
That worked just fine and was the method I'd used before, but I'd
forgotten the formula for how to use the hex code.


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates

Manager, STC Consulting and Independent
Contracting SIG
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-Original Message-
From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:22 AM
To: Linda G. Gallagher
Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: Creating special bullets

At 17:34 -0600 11/3/07, Linda G. Gallagher wrote:

I could swear I've done this before, but how to do it is eluding me. I 
was trying to show someone how to create bulleted lists with different 
types of bullet symbols. I have a couple of examples from existing 
documents that worked, but I wanted to show them how to figure out how 
to set it up from scratch.

If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet
font
as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the
character
tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the letter
that
corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you want. For
example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf Dingbats.

You can also use this method to set a different font size for the bullet
if
you wish, although you may get baseline alignment problems. There is a
MIF
hack for this which I forget but which has been documented here before.

--

Steve

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Creating special bullets

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Linda,

A nifty little site that I have bookmarked that provides just such
information:

http://www.zakie.fsnet.co.uk/ChatRoomsStuff/Help/wingdingsfontchart.htm

HTH,

TVB 


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Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
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-Original Message-
From: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv.com at lists.frameusers.com
] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:48 AM
To: 'Steve Rickaby'
Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: RE: Creating special bullets

Rick,

At the risk of sounding stupid, how do you know what letter corresponds
to the symbol you want? That's the crux of my question.

Thanks to Ann and Shlomo for reminding me of how to use the hex code.
That worked just fine and was the method I'd used before, but I'd
forgotten the "formula" for how to use the hex code.


~
Linda G. Gallagher
TechCom Plus, LLC
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com
303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144
User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates

Manager, STC Consulting and Independent
Contracting SIG
http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html
 


-Original Message-
From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk] 
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:22 AM
To: Linda G. Gallagher
Cc: framers at FrameUsers.com
Subject: Re: Creating special bullets

At 17:34 -0600 11/3/07, Linda G. Gallagher wrote:

>I could swear I've done this before, but how to do it is eluding me. I 
>was trying to show someone how to create bulleted lists with different 
>types of bullet symbols. I have a couple of examples from existing 
>documents that worked, but I wanted to show them how to figure out how 
>to set it up from scratch.

If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet
font
as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the
character
tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the letter
that
corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you want. For
example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf Dingbats.

You can also use this method to set a different font size for the bullet
if
you wish, although you may get baseline alignment problems. There is a
MIF
hack for this which I forget but which has been documented here before.

--

Steve

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RE: Frame 6 crashes on WinXP with edited fmdlg.dll file

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Is this the patch that you might have forgotten to install?

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1420 


HTH,

TVB

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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:22 PM
To: FrameUsers List; Free Framers
Subject: Frame 6 crashes on WinXP with edited fmdlg.dll file

Hi folks

Just posting this in case anyone else has had the same problem.  I
received a new PC late last year and had to reinstall all my software,
updates, patches, etc.  I also changed at this time from Win2k to WinXP.
I duly installed Frame 6, plus the updates for 405 and XP, plus my own
customisations (keyboard shortcuts, maker.ini, plug-ins, etc).  
All was well until last week when I tried to open a Frame file with
missing referenced graphics.  I selected to skip the graphics, and Frame
crashed.  To cut a long story short, I uninstalled Frame, then
reinstalled it, making sure I did install the 405 and XP patches, then
installed my customisations.  I then tried to open the same file and got
the same result - Frame crashed. 

At this point I remembered that after the first crash, I thought I might
have forgotten to install the XP patch after I got the new PC.  At that
point I tried installing it again, and it came up with an error about a
file not being as expected.  I was pretty sure the file it mentioned was
fmdlg.dll, so I then suspected that the crash might have happened
because I have edited fmdlg.dll to increase the size of some dialogue
boxes (using Resource Hacker).  I replaced my edited fmdlg.dll file with
the original file and opened the Frame file with missing graphics again.
I chose to skip the missing files and it opened with no problems.  I
went back to my edited fmdlg.dll file and Frame crashed.

I've chosen to keep my edited fmdlg.dll file as the expanded dialogue
boxes are very useful.  But now I know I can change back to the original
if I need to open a file with missing graphics.

Has anyone else encountered this problem, or know of a way around it?  
Is it fixed in Frame 7?  I presume not many people have hacked around
with the fmdlg.dll file, so I may be the only person to come across this
problem?

Regards

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Frame 6 crashes on WinXP with edited fmdlg.dll file

[Van Boening, Tammy]

Is this the patch that you might have forgotten to install?

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1420 


HTH,

TVB

Tammy L. Van Boening
Engineering Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
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From: framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+tammy.vanboening=fiserv.com at lists.frameusers.com
] On Behalf Of Dave Reynolds
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:22 PM
To: FrameUsers List; Free Framers
Subject: Frame 6 crashes on WinXP with edited fmdlg.dll file

Hi folks

Just posting this in case anyone else has had the same problem.  I
received a new PC late last year and had to reinstall all my software,
updates, patches, etc.  I also changed at this time from Win2k to WinXP.
I duly installed Frame 6, plus the updates for 405 and XP, plus my own
customisations (keyboard shortcuts, maker.ini, plug-ins, etc).  
All was well until last week when I tried to open a Frame file with
missing referenced graphics.  I selected to skip the graphics, and Frame
crashed.  To cut a long story short, I uninstalled Frame, then
reinstalled it, making sure I did install the 405 and XP patches, then
installed my customisations.  I then tried to open the same file and got
the same result - Frame crashed. 

At this point I remembered that after the first crash, I thought I might
have forgotten to install the XP patch after I got the new PC.  At that
point I tried installing it again, and it came up with an error about a
file not being as expected.  I was pretty sure the file it mentioned was
fmdlg.dll, so I then suspected that the crash might have happened
because I have edited fmdlg.dll to increase the size of some dialogue
boxes (using Resource Hacker).  I replaced my edited fmdlg.dll file with
the original file and opened the Frame file with missing graphics again.
I chose to skip the missing files and it opened with no problems.  I
went back to my edited fmdlg.dll file and Frame crashed.

I've chosen to keep my edited fmdlg.dll file as the expanded dialogue
boxes are very useful.  But now I know I can change back to the original
if I need to open a file with missing graphics.

Has anyone else encountered this problem, or know of a way around it?  
Is it fixed in Frame 7?  I presume not many people have hacked around
with the fmdlg.dll file, so I may be the only person to come across this
problem?

Regards

Dave

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Missing fonts message

[Van Boening, Tammy]

All,

I had this information saved once before from the list, but can find it
now. When I open several documents received from an outside source, I
get a missing font message. That's fine - I know what to do to get rid
of the message, but what I really would like to do is find these errant
fonts in the document themselves and replace them with the proper fonts.
I remember something back in the fuzzy recesses of my aging memory about
saving to .mif and searching, but. . .am I really off-base or ???

TIA,

TVB

Tammy L. Van Boening
Engineering Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
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Missing fonts message

[Van Boening, Tammy]

All,

I had this information saved once before from the list, but can find it
now. When I open several documents received from an outside source, I
get a missing font message. That's fine - I know what to do to get rid
of the message, but what I really would like to do is find these errant
fonts in the document themselves and replace them with the proper fonts.
I remember something back in the fuzzy recesses of my aging memory about
saving to .mif and searching, but. . .am I really off-base or ???

TIA,

TVB

Tammy L. Van Boening
Engineering Technical Writer
Fiserv Insurance Solutions 
Property and Casualty Division
303-729-7733
tammy.vanboening at fiserv.com
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