Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020 (16.0.4) does not start (same bug as in 2015)

[Yves Barbion]

Thank you for the tip, Simon, but I'm not going to spend my time on this. I
guess/hope that Adobe is monitoring this list too and that they have the
time and the people to raise this issue as a bug. ;-)

Cheers

Yves

On Wed, 4 May 2022 at 11:27, Simon BUCH  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> If you haven't done it already, I would advise raising this as a bug on
> the Adobe tracking system:
>  https://tracker.adobe.com
>
> Regards
> /// Simon BUCH
>
> On 04/05/2022 10:19, Yves Barbion wrote:
> > Hi group
> >
> > FrameMaker 2020 (16.0.4) refused to start this morning: no splash screen
> > and no FrameMaker process running in the Task Manager. Apparently, this
> is
> > the same bug as in Frame 2015:
> >
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/framers@lists.frameusers.com/msg68672.html
> >
> > This problem can easily be fixed by renaming or deleting the Linguistics
> > folder in:
> >
> > C:\Users\Your.Name\AppData\LocalLow\Adobe
> >
> > Kudos to Jeff Coatsworth, who posted this fix back in 2019.
> >
> > @Adobe: Could you please fix this bug?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
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[Framers] FrameMaker 2020 (16.0.4) does not start (same bug as in 2015)

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

FrameMaker 2020 (16.0.4) refused to start this morning: no splash screen
and no FrameMaker process running in the Task Manager. Apparently, this is
the same bug as in Frame 2015:

https://www.mail-archive.com/framers@lists.frameusers.com/msg68672.html

This problem can easily be fixed by renaming or deleting the Linguistics
folder in:

C:\Users\Your.Name\AppData\LocalLow\Adobe

Kudos to Jeff Coatsworth, who posted this fix back in 2019.

@Adobe: Could you please fix this bug?

Cheers

Yves
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Re: [Framers] Mif2Go

[Yves Barbion]

I'm still using it.

Kind regards

Yves

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 17:44, Peter Gold 
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> During lockdown, it may seem that we're all dating ourselves. >**<
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 7:02 AM K Grace  wrote:
>
> > Does anyone still use Mif2Go or am I dating myself?
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Re: [Framers] OT: Word to XML

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Roger

I still use MIF2Go for Word to DITA conversions (via Frame, of course).
Yes, it still works with FrameMaker 11 on Windows 10 and yes, it's
incredibly powerful. I still have a (very old) video here on YouTube which
shows you more or less how it works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHUE0G_VhTU

If you're interested, we can have a webmeeting or you can send me a sample
Word file to give it a whirl.

I wish someone would update MIF2Go for the later versions of Frame. Jeremy
Griffith did some really nice work here.

Cheers

Yves Barbion
www.flowtime.be

On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 14:37, Rick Quatro  wrote:

> Hi Roger,
>
> If they are docx files, you can replace the .docx extension with .zip and
> get to the content inside the document. It will be the cluttered Word XML,
> but you can then use ExtendScript or XSLT to transform it to something
> useful. If you want to have a web meeting to explore this, please contact
> me
> offlist. Thanks.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 585-729-6746
> www.frameexpert.com/store/
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> On
> Behalf Of Roger Shuttleworth
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 8:18 AM
> To: Framers 
> Subject: [Framers] OT: Word to XML
>
> Hello Framers
>
> This is somewhat off-topic as it doesn't directly concern FrameMaker
> (though
> it could). Nevertheless, I know there are people on this list who are much
> more knowledgeable than I, so here goes...
>
> I have a set of well over 100 Word documents (I know...) that I would like
> to convert to simple XML (not the kind that Word exports!). They are all
> four pages long and pretty consistent in terms of structure, and paragraph
> styles are used for the most part, though not character styles. If you were
> me, what methods would you look at?
>
> I have used structured FM for years and am familiar with DITA and DocBook.
> I
> know that there is a route from Word doc > FrameMaker > Structured
> FrameMaker > XML that would involve creating a conversion table, a DTD, and
> a structured application. I have done that in the past, though it was a few
> years ago. I realise that it would mean a lot of up-front work to get it
> working, as well as ensuring that styles are used fully and consistently in
> my source documents.
>
> But is that what you would recommend?
>
> I have FM11. Would a later version of FM add anything to that?
>
> Or is there a non-FrameMaker route that I am unaware of? I have done a web
> search but not come up with much. Is there a route via HTML or XHTML?
>
> What about MIF2Go? I understand that it still works with FM11, but is it
> capable of converting to XML?
>
> Any and all ideas would be welcome. I value your input as it will help me
> avoid a lot of dead ends.
>
> Roger
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[Framers] Fm2019: Stopping the Save as PDF process?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I'm still not getting used to the (much too complicated) process of having
to configure the PDF settings first in FrameMaker 2019 to be able to save
my file as PDF. So I create a new Fm file and, from force of habit, I just
choose File > Save as PDF. The process then starts and I just get to see a
dialog with a progress indicator which says "Saving". But nothing else
happens next and there seems to be no way to stop this process (pressing
Esc, for example) other than doing CTRL+ALT+DEL and quitting FrameMaker.

Or is there a way to stop this "Save as PDF" process?

And is there really no other way to create PDF the good old quick & easy
way? Or am I the only one who doesn't like the Publish pod?

Kudos to Rick Quatro by the way for his FREE RescuePDF script. ;-)

http://frameautomation.com/framemaker-2019-where-is-my-pdf/

Cheers

Yves
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Re: [Framers] Hyperlink to a specific page in a PDF file

[Yves Barbion]

Hi all

Meanwhile, I have tried in all (in Fm 2017):

   - openpage filename(including the absolute path):pagenumber
   - gotopage filename(including the absolute path):pagenumber
   - message URL file://c:/dita/myfile.pdf#page=5
   <http://example.org/doc.pdf#page=5>

The referenced PDF file opens, but not on the page specified in my
hyperlink.

I even tried it with Fm 2019, but then the PDF file doesn't even open.

Kind regards

Yves


On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 19:07, Robert Lauriston  wrote:

> message URL http://example.org/doc.pdf#page=5
>
>
> https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/devnet/acrobat/pdfs/pdf_open_parameters.pdf
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 4:55 AM Yves Barbion 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi group
> >
> > In my Framemaker file, I want to insert a hyperlink to a specific page in
> > an external PDF file. Any idea whether this is possible? I have tried the
> > following but that doesn't work:
> >
> > message openfile filenale.pdf#5
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[Framers] Hyperlink to a specific page in a PDF file

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

In my Framemaker file, I want to insert a hyperlink to a specific page in
an external PDF file. Any idea whether this is possible? I have tried the
following but that doesn't work:

message openfile filenale.pdf#5

Thanks

Yves
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Re: [Framers] Create a separate ToC for each text flow?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi all

Creating separate paragraph tags for French and Dutch is not really an
option, because we'd have to retag the whole text (500 + pages). Richard
Mitchell suggested to use conditional text for the French and Dutch text. I
haven't tried this, but that might work.

Anyway, Adobe should add this feature: simply allow the user to create a
ToC with multiple text flows, in which the generated ToC appears in the
corresponding text flows, so the headings from flow A in appears in flow A
in the ToC, headings from flow B in flow B etc.


Cheers

Yves

On Mon, 20 May 2019 at 17:47, Lin Sims  wrote:

> Hey Craig,
>
> Assuming I understood this correctly, I don't think this is possible. As
> far as I know, you can only have one TOC reference page, and there's no way
> to specify which text flow it goes into. Be interesting to find out if I'm
> wrong on that, though, as I can see it being useful.
>
> Yves, let us know what you try out and how it works, would you please?
>
> On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 3:36 PM Craig Ede  wrote:
>
> > Yves,
> >
> > I was thinking of something similar to what Lin describes, but I don't
> > have time to check it and didn't want to lead you down a wrong path.
> > However, once you create the TOC file as an autogenerated file, it might
> be
> > possible to create the two text flows in that file, one for each
> language.
> > The page flows and formatting tags on the reference page for the TOC
> would
> > have to be divided as well with the correct tags to use for formatting on
> > the appropriate side. All the flow names have to be named the same for
> each
> > of the 'views' (that is, on both the TOC reference and master pages). I
> > don't know for sure, but it just might work, and that would let you just
> > generate the file, no muss, no fuss.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > 
> > From: Framers  >
> > on behalf of Lin Sims 
> > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 12:14 PM
> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Create a separate ToC for each text flow?
> >
> > Could you use two different paragraph tags for each heading level, one
> for
> > Dutch and one for French? Perhaps distinguished by -D and -Fr. Then you
> > could generate separate TOCs easily enough from the same file, but off
> the
> > top of my head I can't figure out how to combine the two different TOCs
> > into the same generated file.
> >
> > Oh! Could you create a second file that has two separate text frames as
> > parallel columns, then use insets to have the French TOC in one column
> and
> > the Dutch in the other? Then all you'd have to do is exclude the
> generated
> > files from the doc when creating your output ...
> >
> > (NB: I have not tested this. No idea if it would work. But it sounds
> > possible.)
> >
> > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 8:14 AM Yves Barbion 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Framers
> > >
> > > I've got this nice challenge:
> > >
> > > I've got a big FrameMaker book in which each chapter has 2 separate
> text
> > > flows: one for Dutch text and one for French. The Dutch and French text
> > > appears side by side on each page.
> > >
> > > I want to create a table of contents which has the same: a Dutch text
> > flow
> > > on the left and a French text flow on the right.
> > >
> > > I don't see a "standard" way of doing this in Fm. When I generate a
> ToC,
> > I
> > > get the Dutch and French text mixed together in a single flow:
> > >
> > > Dutch heading page 1
> > > French heading page 1
> > > Dutch heading page 2
> > > French heading page 2
> > >
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > My current workaround is kinda complicated:
> > >
> > >1. Create 3 versions of the book, one bilingual (master) version, a
> > >French version and a Dutch version.
> > >2. Remove all French text from the Dutch book and vice versa.
> > >3. Generate a ToC in the French version.
> > >4. Generate a ToC in the Dutch version.
> > >5. In the bilingual version, import the Dutch ToC in the Dutch text
> > flow
> > >of the "fake ToC" and import the French ToC in the French text flow.
> > >
> > > It works, but it's too complicated and will take too much time when
> > updates
> > > occur.
> > >
> > > Any better ideas? Can an ExtendScript do this?
> > >
>

[Framers] Create a separate ToC for each text flow?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Framers

I've got this nice challenge:

I've got a big FrameMaker book in which each chapter has 2 separate text
flows: one for Dutch text and one for French. The Dutch and French text
appears side by side on each page.

I want to create a table of contents which has the same: a Dutch text flow
on the left and a French text flow on the right.

I don't see a "standard" way of doing this in Fm. When I generate a ToC, I
get the Dutch and French text mixed together in a single flow:

Dutch heading page 1
French heading page 1
Dutch heading page 2
French heading page 2

etc.

My current workaround is kinda complicated:

   1. Create 3 versions of the book, one bilingual (master) version, a
   French version and a Dutch version.
   2. Remove all French text from the Dutch book and vice versa.
   3. Generate a ToC in the French version.
   4. Generate a ToC in the Dutch version.
   5. In the bilingual version, import the Dutch ToC in the Dutch text flow
   of the "fake ToC" and import the French ToC in the French text flow.

It works, but it's too complicated and will take too much time when updates
occur.

Any better ideas? Can an ExtendScript do this?

Thanks

Yves Barbion
www.flowtime.be
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[Framers] [FrameMaker 2019] Customizing responsive HTML5 output: best practices and good documentation?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I'm looking for best practices and good documentation (or user groups) on
how to use and customize FrameMaker 2019 responsive HTML5 output, generated
from unstructured Fm files and from ditamaps. The FrameMaker "Help" does
not help me very much:

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/framemaker_help.pdf

Thanks

Yves
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Re: [Framers] Automatic shrinkwrap?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Rick

You wrote: "It actually happens "live"; when you scale the image, the
anchored frame shrinkwraps to the imported image. My client has created a
composite FrameMaker document from his ditamap and is formatting that for
print, including scaling images, adding some FrameMaker objects, etc"

I've just done a test with a structured binary Fm file which I generated
from a ditamap, using DITA-FMx. I had one image in an AFrame, scaled it
but... the AFrame did *not* shrinkwrap. The shrinkwrapping does happen
however, when I import a second image into the same AFrame.

To stop the skinkwrapping, you could indeed do Structure > Remove Structure
from Flow, as Scott suggested.

But I agree with Scott: all this cleanup and formatting in the *generated*
binary Fm file should not be necessary (and definitely not if you use
DITA-FMx). All these formatting changes will be lost when your customer
regenerates the Fm file from the ditamap. One of the *many* interesting
features in DITA-FMx, for example, is the ability to add the resolution of
an image as an outputclass attribute (outputclass="fmdpi:150"). When the
binary Fm file is generated, this attribute value will be applied as the
dpi value on the imported image to scale it correspondingly. Here's a
feature comparison (but Scott needs to update this list for Fm 2017 and
2019):

http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/featurecomparison.php

I think your customer needs some more DITA(+FMx) training:

https://flowtime.be/en/training/dita-fmx/

(sorry for this shameless plug ;-)   )

Cheers

Yves Barbion
www.flowtime.be


On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 23:58, Scott Prentice  wrote:

> Rick...
>
> Yes .. would be good to be able to disable this "feature" (despite this
> not being a recommended workflow). I assume this person realizes that
> any cleanup must be repeated the next time the content is updated. I'd
> suggest trying to automate this cleanup process, since they are probably
> defeating any benefit they gain from using DITA.
>
> However, there must be a way to make FM not aware that this is a "DITA"
> file, so it stops fixing the images. There are a number of ways that FM
> could know that this is a DITA file .. probably something to do with the
> structure app that's imported into the FM file. It might be keying off
> of the structure app name, and that it matches one of the DITA apps that
> is registered in the app definition file. Could try changing it to
> something that doesn't match. Or it could be keying off of a pre-defined
> element/attribute structure at the root of the file. Try
> mangling/deleting some attributes on the root element, or renaming the
> root element. Once you figure out how FM knows to do this special
> processing, you can make a special "off-line" app that you import into
> the files after conversion to composite FM binary.
>
> Or .. as an extreme option, you could comment out the fmdita client in
> the maker.ini file. This will completely disable DITA, and should make
> this stop (although it may break other things that are useful).
>
> OR .. you could strip the structure from the file (since this is a
> one-way process anyway, maybe not such a bad idea) .. that'll do the
> trick!  :-)
>
> Good luck,
> ...scott
>
>
> On 4/16/19 12:54 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> > Hi Scott and Lynne,
> >
> > It actually happens "live"; when you scale the image, the anchored frame
> shrinkwraps to the imported image. My client has created a composite
> FrameMaker document from his ditamap and is formatting that for print,
> including scaling images, adding some FrameMaker objects, etc. I agree that
> this may not be the ideal workflow, but in my opinion, this should be an
> option that the user should be able to turn off. Thanks for the replies.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers 
> On Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 1:43 PM
> > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Automatic shrinkwrap?
> >
> > Hi Lynne...
> >
> > Nope .. anything other than a referenced image will be ignored. DITA
> doesn't support "graphic objects" and knows noting about a "frame" so those
> bits are not considered valid. Could try pasting from another file, but I'd
> bet it won't work. This isn't how the structure app (and DITA support) was
> intended to be used, so it's not supported.
> >
> > Rick ..
> >
> > I'm not exactly sure where this processing is done and how FM knows that
> the file is "DITA". If this processing is done "on save" then it's likely
> the import/export client. I think that FMx knows when you're in a binary
> file vs. XML and a

[Framers] Fm 2019 responsive HTML5: use svg instead of png for the logo?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I see that only PNG can be used for the logo of the responsive HTML5 output
from FM 2019. Are there any plans to support SVG as well?

Thanks

Yves
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[Framers] Fm 2019: Open responsive HTML5 (webhelp) on a specific page

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I'm generating responsive webhelp from DITA, using Fm 2019. When I open the
webhelp by double-clicking the index.html file, I see that the initial page
which is displayed is not the first topic, but some other topic, regardless
of its position in the ditamap. I moved that topic up and down in the
ditamap, but the webhelp keeps opening on that topic.

Is there any way to specify which page has to be displayed as the "home
screen" when the webhelp is opened?

Thanks

Yves
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2019: generating responsive HTML5 from a ditamap: ToC is just an alphabetical list of topic titles

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

This problem seems to happen only when I generate webhelp from a bookmap.
When I generate webhelp from a regular ditamap, the ToC looks fine.

Cheers

Yves

On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 15:49, Yves Barbion  wrote:

> Hi group
>
> I'm generating responsive html5 from a ditamap, using FrameMaker 2019. I
> see that the table of content is not really a table of contents, but just a
> flat list of all my topics titles, arranged in alphabetical order. Any
> ideas how I can get a "real" ToC in there?
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Yves
>
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[Framers] FrameMaker 2019: generating responsive HTML5 from a ditamap: ToC is just an alphabetical list of topic titles

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I'm generating responsive html5 from a ditamap, using FrameMaker 2019. I
see that the table of content is not really a table of contents, but just a
flat list of all my topics titles, arranged in alphabetical order. Any
ideas how I can get a "real" ToC in there?

Many thanks in advance.

Yves
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[Framers] Using FrameMaker with Autodesk Vault?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

Is there anyone using FrameMaker (or DITA content) with Autodesk Vault?

Thanks

Yves
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Re: [Framers] A few questions about FrameMaker 2019

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Pat

Wondering whether you got any replies to your question?

Cheers

Yves

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 22:26, Pat Christenson <
pat.christen...@morningstar.com> wrote:

> Hi -
>
> I'm doing some research on the "new" and "improved" features in FM 2019.
> We haven't purchased or downloaded a trial so I'm limited to the
> information I find online. Adobe lists features that I can't find any
> information on (at least, not using the terminology in their announcements)
> in the 2019 Help or User Guide, so I hope someone in the group can clarify
> these.
>
>
>   *   Add/delete workspace menus: Can you actually delete (or hide) menus
> or is this just the custom workspace function from 2017? Is there anything
> new/notable about it?
>   *   Enhanced mini-TOC: How is it enhanced?
>   *   Resize pods: 2017 lets me resize pods now. What's new here?
>   *   Smart filters in pods: What is this?
>   *   From the Update 1 information, it appears the PDF generation
> function has been fixed and the app now scales across monitors. Have you
> found this to be true?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Pat Christenson
> Senior Technical Writer, Client Education
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Re: [Framers] Any feedback on FM Publish Tools in 19?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Art

I have just played with the HTML5 output from Fm 2019 a bit and it seems to
work pretty well. I like the dynamic content filter:

https://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/2019/using/index.html#t=using-framemaker-2019%2Fid154UK0C0SGM.html

One glitch I have found so far is that my output is not updated when I
update my (unstructured) Fm file and then regenerate the output.

Cheers

Yves

On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 16:55, Art Campbell  wrote:

> Was underwhelmed in 15, and haven't had to use them in 17. Particularly
> using the odd styling tool, which sometimes worked.
>
> But looking at HTML5 output and HTML help output just over the horizon.
>
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Re: [Framers] Extracting images

[Yves Barbion]

Save your Word file as HTML. The images will be in a separate folder.

Cheers

Yves

On Fri, 14 Dec 2018 at 16:23, Doug  wrote:

> What's the best way to extract images from Word or from Frame that are
> embedded and not inserted by reference?
>
> I have one particular image that is composed of detailed line art, about an
> inch wide by 6 inches high.  I loaded the DOC into Frame and the detail is
> still sharp and clear, but all attempts to get extract it to an image file
> on disk have resulted in a loss of sharpness/clarity.
>
> Ideas?
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Re: [Framers] Space being removed in structured output

[Yves Barbion]

I have just tested this in FrameMaker 2017 (with DITA-FMx) and in 2019
(without DITA-FMx):

   1. Open the topic as you posted it (in Frame 2017 and 2019).
   Result: the space after Safe life  is gone, so no space between
   the words "life" and "design" anymore.
   2. Remove the space  after the word "life" and type a space right after
   the  italics end tag , so just before the word "design". Then save,
   close and reopen the file.
   Result: Surprise! The space is still there.

I think it's a better practice in general to type the space outside the
inline element.

Kind regards

Yves




On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 16:59, Rick Quatro  wrote:

> Thank you Yves. I am taking care of this now in my XSLT, but I may fix it
> in
> the source.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> On
> Behalf Of Yves Barbion
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:52 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Space being removed in structured output
>
> Hi Rick
>
> That's the old "whitespace normalization" bug. Sometimes, FrameMaker has a
> problem with inline elements, such as . By the way, you should use a
> "more semantically appropriate element" as per the DITA spec, but I
> digress.
>
> This has been discussed years ago in this user group, so you may want to
> seach for "whitespace" in the archives. Scott's DITA-FMx plugin seems to do
> a better job with whitespace normalization.
>
> Cheers
>
> Yves Barbion
> www.flowtime.be
>
>
>
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 16:39, Rick Quatro  wrote:
>
> > If the space is after the  tag instead of inside of it, it works
> > as it should. That is a dumb "feature" if you ask me.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Framers
> > 
> > On
> > Behalf Of Rick Quatro
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 9:17 AM
> > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> > 
> > Subject: [Framers] Space being removed in structured output
> >
> > Hi All, I am generating dita programatically:
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >  >
> >   PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DITA 1.3 Concept//EN"
> > "technicalContent/dtd/concept.dtd">
> >
> > 
> >
> >Safe Life
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> >
> >  Safe life design provides reserves
> >
> > in all aspects of the structure by factoring all calculations.
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > When I open this concept in FrameMaker, the space after "Safe life" in
> > the  element is being removed. Is there a setting in structured
> > FrameMaker that I am missing? I am using FM 2019 with the standard DITA
> applications.
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Quatro
> >
> > Carmen Publishing Inc.
> >
> > r...@frameexpert.com
> >
> > 585-729-6746
> >
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> >
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Re: [Framers] Space being removed in structured output

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Rick

That's the old "whitespace normalization" bug. Sometimes, FrameMaker has a
problem with inline elements, such as . By the way, you should use a
"more semantically appropriate element" as per the DITA spec, but I digress.

This has been discussed years ago in this user group, so you may want to
seach for "whitespace" in the archives. Scott's DITA-FMx plugin seems to do
a better job with whitespace normalization.

Cheers

Yves Barbion
www.flowtime.be



On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 16:39, Rick Quatro  wrote:

> If the space is after the  tag instead of inside of it, it works as it
> should. That is a dumb "feature" if you ask me.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> On
> Behalf Of Rick Quatro
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 9:17 AM
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> 
> Subject: [Framers] Space being removed in structured output
>
> Hi All, I am generating dita programatically:
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
>   PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DITA 1.3 Concept//EN"
> "technicalContent/dtd/concept.dtd">
>
> 
>
>Safe Life
>
>
>
>   
>
>  Safe life design provides reserves
>
> in all aspects of the structure by factoring all calculations.
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> When I open this concept in FrameMaker, the space after "Safe life" in the
>  element is being removed. Is there a setting in structured FrameMaker
> that I am missing? I am using FM 2019 with the standard DITA applications.
> Thank you very much.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
> 585-729-6746
>
> www.frameexpert.com/store/
>
>
>
> Save on energy at quatro.mystream.com
>
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Re: [Framers] ANN: Where is my PDF?

[Yves Barbion]

Hahaha, wonderful!

Happy birthday, Rick. Adobe should buy you a birthday present now. ;-)

Good to see that you still feel like you're 30. This means that you can
still go on for another 30 odd years and help us with your wonderful
scripts and Fm plugins.

Thank you very much again.

Cheers!

Yves

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 04:09, Rick Quatro  wrote:

> To celebrate my 60th birthday on October 24, I have a gift for my
> FrameMaker
> friends using FM 2019!
>
>
>
> http://frameautomation.com/framemaker-2019-where-is-my-pdf/
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
> 585-729-6746
>
>
>
> PS: I still feel like I am 30 :-).
>
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Re: [Framers] Now it's a buggy SVG IMPORT into Frame 2019 files

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Lin

Looks like a problem with font embedding in the SVG files. I don't know
about Visio, but in Adobe Illustrator, you can select font embedding
settings when you save your graphic as SVG: subset only glyphs used, all
glyphs, no glyphs (and use system fonts) etc.

Maybe you could do some tests with those settings? There may be one which
works with Fm 2019.

Cheers

Yves

On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 22:01, Lin Sims  wrote:

> If it's not one thing, it's another.
>
> I'm still on Windows 7, so I've continued importing my images into Frame
> 2017 as SVG files since I have no issues creating PDFs from them.
>
> But we've JUST upgraded to Frame 2019, and now the IMPORT of SVG images
> into Frame has gone screwy. In this case, the images are screenshots taken
> with SnagIt, pasted into Visio where graphic callouts and a text box
> containing the graphic's number is added, and exported to SVG.
>
> When the resulting SVG is imported into FrameMaker, all the callouts and
> the graphic's number MOVE, either to the right (in the case of the
> callouts) or to the left (in the case of the text box containing the
> graphic's number).
>
> For now, I'm giving up on SVGs and we're just going to import Visio files,
> since that doesn't appear to have any problems. I have non-proprietary
> examples of the issue (as JPG images) for those interested in a look. I'm
> not attaching them because I can't remember if the list software scrapes
> attachments off or not. I've also posted a query in the Adobe FrameMaker
> forum. I'm still debating whether to file a bug report. .
>
> Weekend, here I come.
>
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Re: [Framers] Question about documenting code and 2 paragraph formats that should appear in the same row

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Caroline

I'd create a paragraph format named "codeblock" and a character format
named "codephrase", similar to what's been done in DITA:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.2/os/spec/langref/codeph.html#codeph

http://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.2/os/spec/langref/codeblock.html#codeblock

Cheers

Yves Barbion


On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 10:51, Caroline Tabach 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am converting a Word doc with a lot of code to Frame (2017).
>
> Some rows of code are numbered and some are indented.
>
> Would you make another set of tags for code numbered and indented
> (different font and type from body)
>
> In addition, there are lines or paragraph where I have both code - in the
> paragraph tag - "code" and regular text which should have the style body,
> completely mixed in the same line
>
> What is the best way to deal with this?
>
> To make a new paragraph tag for the body text that is run in?  (can this be
> done)
> Or make a character tag for the text that should not be in the "code" tag
>
> Any other tips for documenting code?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [Framers] OT: A hot DITA template project

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Hi Rick

Maybe I can help your client?

Kind regards

Yves Barbion

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> Hi Framers,
>
>
>
> I have a client that needs some FrameMaker DITA template work. They have
> DITA content and they need structured FrameMaker templates that will match
> their look and feel. The client is overseas so there will be some time zone
> challenges, but they are good to work with. They need someone that can
> start
> the work right away. If you are interested, please contact me off list and
> I
> will forward your info to the client. Thank you very much.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] HTML

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Doug

I've generated this webhelp from unstructured FrameMaker:

www.flowtime.be/samples/enfocus_pitstop_webhelp/Multivolume/Output/wwhelp.htm

Generated with WebWorks ePublisher.

I don't know which version of FrameMaker you're using, but the latest
versions have their own built-in (RoboHelp-based) publishing feature. Just
choose File > Publish and select your preferred format, for example
responsive HTML5.

Kind regards

Yves


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> I've been making PDFs using Frame unstructured, but now I'm facing the
> challenge of adding HTML output to my list of tasks.  I'm familiar with
> HTML, but making it from Frame is something I've not done before.
>
> Can someone point me to online examples of user guides that have been
> converted to HTML?  I'd like to get an idea of what's possible making HTML
> from Frame.
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [Framers] Find custom ruling/shading? SOLVED

[Yves Barbion]

Nevermind, got it.

Find: Table Format Override.

Y

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> Hi FrameUsers
>
> Is there a way to find custom ruling/shading in a FrameMaker file or book?
> An Extendscript or plugin maybe?
>
> Thanks
>
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[Framers] Find custom ruling/shading?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi FrameUsers

Is there a way to find custom ruling/shading in a FrameMaker file or book?
An Extendscript or plugin maybe?

Thanks

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Re: [Framers] Scaling simpletables to text frame width

[Yves Barbion]

Sorry Rick

simpletable doesn't have @pgwide, which is one of the reasons why I don't
like simpletable.

My mistake.

Yves


On 27 July 2018 at 16:29, Yves Barbion  wrote:

> Hi Rick
>
> try @pgwide="1" instead of @expanse.
>
> See also: https://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.2/os/spec/langref/table.html
>
> Cheers
>
> Yves
>
> On 27 July 2018 at 16:20, Rick Quatro  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am importing some  elements into FrameMaker and want them
>> to
>> scale to the text frame width. I tried setting @expanse="page" but it
>> doesn't scale up on import. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am using DITA 1.3.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Quatro
>>
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Re: [Framers] Scaling simpletables to text frame width

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Rick

try @pgwide="1" instead of @expanse.

See also: https://docs.oasis-open.org/dita/v1.2/os/spec/langref/table.html

Cheers

Yves

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> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am importing some  elements into FrameMaker and want them to
> scale to the text frame width. I tried setting @expanse="page" but it
> doesn't scale up on import. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
>
>
>
> I am using DITA 1.3.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Rick Quatro
>
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>
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Re: [Framers] Graphic dpi on import from XML

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Rick

Leximation's DITA-FMx plugin can do this. You simply add
@outputclass="fmdpi:96" to the image and FrameMaker will display the image
at the specified resolution.

http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/

Cheers

Yves



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> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have some dita content that has references to some png files. When
> FrameMaker opens the files, the images come in at 72 dpi. Is there a way to
> specify a different value, like 96 dpi? Is there a read/write rule for
> this?
> Thank you very much.
>
>
>
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Re: [Framers] ANN: Bottlenecks

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Rick

There is this very old FrameMaker bug where text is formatted incorrectly
if there is inline markup in list items (ol/li or ul/li). It has been
described at length here and Frame experts like Lynne Price and Scott
Prentice have also been looking into it:

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/framemaker-dita/conversations/topics/3122?guccounter=1

So far, I haven't seen a good solution for this one, so my workaround is to
specify the font "hard-coded" in the EDD, which I don't really like. Maybe
a script could help to "retag" the text to apply the correct formatting?

This was Lynne's "recap" of the problem:

_

Jon, Scott, et. al.,
Thanks, Jon, for the simple test file.

A recap is that in your DITA application, text in a paragraph in an item
in a bulleted list has the correct font even when it occurs between two
inline elements. However, text between two inline elements uses the wrong
font family in a paragraph in an item in a numbered list, although text at
the beginning or end of such a paragraph uses the correct font.

The incorrect formatting is EDD-specific; it does not appear with other
format rules for the same structure.

I believe I have isolated the problem. It does indeed seem to be an FM
bug, which by the way also occurs in FM8 and FM7.2. I disabled the DITA API
clients for my FM9 testing and thus have confirmed that the problem is not
a DITA issue. The bug is that when applying first pgf rules, FM applies the
default pgf font to a text segment at the beginning or end of a paragraph
but not to medial text segments.

In detail, the test data has the structure:




This has
multiple
instances of inline
markup
for your reading pleasure.





This has
multiple
instances of inline
markup
for your reading pleasure.



This has
one
instance for your reading pleasure.





The expected formatting is that text outside the  elements
should use Calibri and text inside the  should use Courier New. The
only incorrect formatting is that of "instances of inline" in the first
 in the  which appears in Minion Pro. Note that this  is
identical to the one in the  but that the entire  is formatted
correctly.

The relevant format rules are:

1)  has a text fmt rule that applies pgf fmt ul.bullet.indent or
ol.num.indent depending on whether it occurs in a  or an . Both
these pgf fmts use Minion Pro.

2)  has a first pgf rule that applies pgf fmt 1FStep, 2FStep, or Bullet
respectively to the first child of an , elsewhere in an , and
within a . These pgf fmts all use Calibri.

3)  has a text format rule that applies pgf fmt Body_indent which uses
Calibri.

When FM applies the format rules, it first applies the text fmt rules
and then the first pgf rules. Within the , it therefore applies
ul.bullet.indent to the  (applying Minion Pro) and then Body_indent to
the  (applying Calibri). It then applies Bullet, applying the default
font only to the initial and final text segments. Since Bullet uses the
same font family as Body_indent, the fact that it does not reapply Calibri
to the medial text segment doesn't matter.

To format the , however, it applies ol.num.indent to the , which
applies Minion Pro to all text segments. Then it applies the first pgf rule
to change the default pgf font to Calibri, but applies this change only to
the edge text segments, leaving Minion Pro on the medial one.

As this analysis suggests, removing the text format rule on  causes
the same error to occur in the  as in the . Similarly, applying
Body_indent to a  in a  in an  avoids the bug there just as it
does in the .

Jon did not see the problem when he inserted a new inline element in the
 within the  because that operation does not cause FM to reformat
the adjacent text segment. Reformatting the  or any of its ancestors by
changing the element to itself (e.g., changing the  to a , the 
to an , etc.), or by importing element definitions while removing
overrides, does cause FM to reformat the critical text segment, and to
reformat it incorrectly.

When FM opens the XML version of the document, however, it delays
applying format rules until it has imported the entire document, thereby
triggering the bug.

By the way, the original EDD applies pgf fmts and char fmts rather than
applying individual properties as needed. My tests included using specific
properties but it did not change the results.

I have reduced the EDD from the original 315 pages to a page and a half.
Will keep a copy for a few days if anyone wants to see it.

--Lynne

_

Kind regards

Yves









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> Hi Framers,
>
>
>
> Occasionally I like to query the FrameMaker community to find out about
> some
> of their FrameMaker bottlenecks. What are the things that slow you down,
> make your work tedious, and frustrate you about FrameMaker? Some of your
> complaints and suggestions have lead to useful solutions in the past. 

Re: [Framers] Expand all element boudaries (as tags) in EDD?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Rick

Yes, that's what I had tried, but Shift-click on one of the elements does
not expand ALL of them, not even when I Shift-click the root element (in
the Structure view and in the document view). Some elements are expanded,
some are not, randomly, which is not really handy. ;-)

Kind regards

Yves

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> Hi Yves,
>
> Try holding your shift key and clicking to expand one of them.
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com>
> On
> Behalf Of Yves Barbion
> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 7:53 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Expand all element boudaries (as tags) in EDD?
>
> Hi group
>
> When I open an EDD, the element boundaries (as tags) are hidden. When I
> select the option to show these tags, I see that most of them are
> collapsed.
> Is there a simple way to expand all tags in 1 go?
>
> Thanks
>
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[Framers] Expand all element boudaries (as tags) in EDD?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

When I open an EDD, the element boundaries (as tags) are hidden. When I
select the option to show these tags, I see that most of them are
collapsed. Is there a simple way to expand all tags in 1 go?

Thanks

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[Framers] Resolution (dpi) incorrect in Fm 2017

[Yves Barbion]

Hi all

I'm using FrameMaker 2017 all patched up (14.0.3). I import an png image (a
screen shot at 96 dpi) and I select 150 dpi in the "Imported Graphic
Scaling" dialog. However, this doesn't seem to work: the image is scaled to
1.04% of its original size and the dpi is "unknown" in the Object
Properties dialog panel pod thing even though I didn't scale the image by
dragging one of its corners.

Has anyone else seen this bug?

Cheers

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[Framers] FM2017: Update book makes makes element boundaries visible again, BUG?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

When I do Edit > Update Book, I see that Show Element Boundaries (as Tags)
is switched on again, which is not the idea, of course.

Is anyone else seeing this? I'm using 14.0.2.

Thanks

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[Framers] Cannot initialize API client svg2pdf.dll

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I've got a ditamap with some 250 referenced SVG files. When I generate a
FrameMaker book from my ditamap, I get the following error message:

Cannot initialize API client c:\program files\..\svg2pdf.dll

My "APIClients section" in my maker.ini seems to be OK and I have 16 GB RAM
(running FrameMaker 2017 on Windows 7).

Any ideas what could be wrong?

Thanks

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[Framers] Size of imported SVG files

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I've got 2 SVG images which have the following size in Inkscape:

Image 1, the "large image:
width: 448 mm
height: 316 mm

Image 2, the same large image which I scaled in Insckape to the following
size:
width: 166
height: 153

When I put this image in a DITA topic and generate a FrameMaker file from
my ditamap (using DITA-FMx), I see that the size of the images becomes as
follows:

Image 1 (large size):
width: 280 mm
height: 198 mm
dpi: 72
*scaling: 50%*

Image 2:
width: 207.496 mm
height: 191.763 mm
dpi: 72
scaling: 100%

In DITA, I haven't used any scaling attributes (@scale, @scalefit,
@outputclass...).

When I *import *these graphics into a new FrameMaker file, the size is as
follows

Image 1 (large size):
width: 560.0mm
height: 396,001 mm
dpi: 72
*scaling: 100%*

Image 2:
width: 207,496  mm
height: 191,763 mm
dpi: 72
scaling: 100%

When I import the graphics at 90 dpi, they have approximately the same size
as their original size in Inkscape.

Does anyone have any idea why the large image is scaled 50% in the
FrameMaker file generated from the DITA topic?

Also, I see that, DIP is greyed out in the Object Properties dialog, so
there seems to be no way to change the DPI setting afterwards (using a
script, for example)?

I'm using FrameMaker 2017 with DITA-FMx 2.0.

Thanks

Yves
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Re: [Framers] Display full path in FrameMaker book or list of references

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Rick

I knew you 'd have a clever script like PathChanger. ;-)

I think my customer can use this. His main problem was actually to collect
all the files in a FrameMaker book to send them out for translation. Fm's
Package feature didn't work well, so I have already shown him where he can
purchase ArchiveES:

http://frameautomation.com/category/extendscript/

And now I see that this is also the place where we can find more
information on PathChanger:

http://frameautomation.com/solving-path-problems-with-pathchanger/

Thank you very much, again, Rick! You rock! ;-)

Cheers

Yves



On 18 July 2017 at 16:19, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote:

> Hi Yves,
>
> My PathChanger script will write out all of the absolute paths in a book
> (images, cross-references, book components, etc.) to a csv file which can
> be
> opened in Excel. The purpose of the script is to allow you to globally
> changed referenced paths in case files get moved, images unresolved, etc.
> But you could also use it to view the absolute paths.
>
> Alternatively, a script could be written that could show the absolute path
> to a selected image, book component, etc. Let me know what you envision as
> the best solution for your problem. Thanks.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 585-366-4017
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Display full path in FrameMaker book or list of
> references
>
> Hi Framers
>
> If the path to a referenced file is really long, FrameMaker displays ..\ in
> the FrameMaker book or ../ in the List of References, for example:
>
> ..\..\..\..\..\..\safety.fm in the Fm book
>
> or
>
> ../../../../../warning_icon.png
>
> Is there a way to see the full path instead?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [Framers] Display full path in FrameMaker book or list of references

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Yes I know, Craig, but the question I had was whether it is possible to
display the full path.

On 17 July 2017 at 16:15, Craig Ede <craig...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Each ".." indicates one dir up in dir tree.
>
> Craig
>
> 
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> on behalf of Yves Barbion <yves.barb...@gmail.com>
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> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Display full path in FrameMaker book or list of
> references
>
> Hi Framers
>
> If the path to a referenced file is really long, FrameMaker displays ..\ in
> the FrameMaker book or ../ in the List of References, for example:
>
> ..\..\..\..\..\..\safety.fm in the Fm book
>
> or
>
> ../../../../../warning_icon.png
>
> Is there a way to see the full path instead?
>
> Thanks
>
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[Framers] Display full path in FrameMaker book or list of references

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Framers

If the path to a referenced file is really long, FrameMaker displays ..\ in
the FrameMaker book or ../ in the List of References, for example:

..\..\..\..\..\..\safety.fm in the Fm book

or

../../../../../warning_icon.png

Is there a way to see the full path instead?

Thanks

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[Framers] Plugins no longer work after installing Fm 14.0.1

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I had plugins for Fm 2017 which worked fine in 14.0.0 but installing 14.0.1
seems to have killed them:

"Cannot initalize API client"

Is anyone else seeing this?

Cheers

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker CMYK workaround

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Hi Rick

I knew it! That old CMYK bug again. ;-)

Color *conversions* from one color space to another are not really
accurate, so you may want to do a color *remapping* instead, i.e. remap
given RGB colors to predefined CMYK values (usually a company's color).

The Enfocus PitStop plug-in for Acrobat can do color remapping and most
professional printers these days have PitStop (or similar preflighting
tools) to check and fix the colors before the documents are printed, so we
(the PDF creators) don't really have to worry about color spaces and color
separations anymore:

http://www.enfocus.com/manuals/UserGuide/PP/10/enUS/en-us/concept/co_remap_color.html

But yes, it would be nice if Adobe could fix that CMYK bug.

Cheers


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On 10 February 2017 at 15:41, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote:

> The crashing problem I am having seems to be caused by trying to create
> CMYK
> PDFs. One question: if I create a PDF with RGB, is there a way to convert
> it
> to CMYK in the resulting PDF? Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: [Framers] What do you say when FrameMaker disappoints?

[Yves Barbion]

Yes, I'm afraid you're the only one, Alan. I've just tested Help > About
FrameMaker and this works for me. ;-)

@Rick: does FrameMaker crash consistently in a given chapter or on a given
page? Maybe there's a vector graphic on that page which does not have the
fonts embedded (used to be one of those old problems)? And have you tried
to select RGB instead of CMYK in the *PDF Setup *dialog?

For me, this is one of those weird things in Frame: If there is a problem
in the PDF file, say random text missing
​ on some pages, Adobe Support's advice was to select RGB instead of CMY​K.
Usually, this solved the problem indeed, but what if I wanted to create a
CMYK PDF file with ALL of my text in there? And how are different color
models related to missing text? This problem still seems to be there in Fm
2017 because next to the CMYK option in the PDF Setup dialog, I read the
ominous message: "Recommended to choose RGB option for Right-to-Left
document". That's a nice warning but... how do I create a CMYK RTL PDF
(nice acronym stack ;-)) then?

Still, I like FrameMaker's flexibility to format DITA-structured content
and generate pretty nice PDFs (with some help from DITA-FMx, of course ;-)):

http://flowtime.be/DITA/PDFs/index.html


Cheers

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On 10 February 2017 at 15:42, Alan Houser <a...@groupwellesley.com> wrote:

> This issue has frustrated me for some time. The FrameMaker app appears to
> be a whack-a-mole of unhandled exceptions. Am I the only one who gets an
> immediate crash on "Help>About FrameMaker" in FrameMaker 2017?
>
> Still, for FrameMaker's "sweet spot" (desktop publishing of large PDFs,
> which many orgs will continue to require into the foreseeable future), I
> don't see many good alternatives.
>
> One recurring issue among my clients ... FrameMaker is rather intolerant
> of network latency. This usually shows up when saving FM files to a network
> drive, but may be an issue when generating PDF. I also see PDF failures
> relating to graphic file corruption. I know you're aware of these issues,
> but thought I would mention them.
>
> -Alan
>
>
>
> On 2/10/17 8:54 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>
>> Hi Framers,
>>
>>
>> I received this from a client earlier this week:
>>
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>>
>> We've been adding a lot of material to the ... Service Manual and today
>> when
>> ... attempted to run a PDF it crashed the same way the ... Service Manual
>> is
>> crashing.
>>
>>
>> This is a huge problem for us. Our whole workflow is predicated upon
>> FrameMaker working correctly with these large files. Have you had any luck
>> finding out why the ... Service Manual is crashing?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>> As you can image, this is very frustrating for me as a FrameMaker
>> consultant, especially since I recommended that they use structured
>> FrameMaker for their manuals. It is frustrating for my client because they
>> have been asked to quote on another large set of manuals, but now they are
>> afraid to move ahead with FrameMaker. I have tried to run the books with
>> FrameMaker 2017, but this crashes also. I have reached out to some of my
>> contacts at Adobe, but have heard nothing.
>>
>>
>> We need structured FrameMaker because custom HTML5 output is a
>> requirement.
>> But to not be able to create PDFs from FrameMaker? This is very
>> disappointing.
>>
>>
>> My suggestion for the next version of FrameMaker: go 64-bit and rewrite
>> the
>> print engine to make PDF generation faster and stable.
>>
>>
>> In the meantime, I will start looking at alternative solutions.
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>> Rick Quatro
>>
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>>
>> r...@frameexpert.com
>>
>> 585-366-4017
>>
>>
>>
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[Framers] Fm 2017: MathFlow Structure Editor trial license expired

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

When I try Insert > MathML Equation, I get the error message "Your MathFlow
Structure Editor trial license has expired". That's a bit fast after only 1
day of using Fm 2017. ;-)

Is anyone else seeing this?

Thanks

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Re: [Framers] OT: Webinar: I am looking for a solution

[Yves Barbion]

Oh, and I forgot to mention FontoXML, which is also nice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymheJId7abo

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Re: [Framers] OT: Webinar: I am looking for a solution

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Rick

I like oXygen XML Web Author a lot. You can test it online here:

https://www.oxygenxml.com/xml_web_author.html

I'm seeing the following configuration:

   - Technical writers use FrameMaker + DITA-FMx or the desktop version of
   oXygen XML Author
   - Content contributors (subject matter experts) use oXygen XML Web Author
   - The content can be managed in Git or a DITA-aware content management
   system like DITAToo, Bluestream XDocs, Componize etc.
   - To publish to PDF, you can use FrameMaker + DITA-FMx (see also
   http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/featurecomparison.php).

The content contributors could also use Simply XML DITA Edition, but Simply
XML does not support the complete DITA standard and all of DITA's reuse
features. But then again, your customer may not have a need for full DITA
support.

I'd love to watch your Solution Search Webinar, but I'm not available this
afternoon.

Kind regards


Yves


On 7 December 2016 at 21:04, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote:

> Hello Framers,
>
>
>
> I have been looking for a good content management solution for one of my
> clients. The client has a series of medical professionals that contribute
> content for an annual publication. Currently, each contributor submits
> their
> content in a Word document, which is then cleaned up, "structured" and
> imported into InDesign for publication. I am looking for a system where the
> authors can enter their content in a browser so that I can receive and
> process structured content, bypassing Word and the need to manually
> structure the content.
>
>
>
> Rather than show individual vendors what I need, I am hosting a webinar to
> show my current process and solicit ideas and proposals for a new solution.
> If you think you may have a solution for me, please attend my webinar on
> Thursday, December 8, 2016, at 11:00 am Eastern Standard Time (US). It
> should only take 20-30 minutes to show you my process.
>
>
>
> Below is the meeting information. You can simply log in to attend, but I
> would appreciate a reply ahead of time. Thank you very much.
>
>
>
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>
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>
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[Framers] Anchored frames get a solid stroke

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group


When I open old FrameMaker files (Fm8, Fm12...) in FrameMaker 13.0.5, I see
that they get a solid stroke (pen pattern), which is not the idea because
they didn't have any stroke in the earlier versions of FrameMaker.

This seems to happen only if the anchored frames contain Illustrator EPS
files, not if they contain pixel images.

Is this a known bug?

​Any fixes?

Thanks

Yves Barbion

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Re: [Framers] Feature comparison list Framemaker 9 vs. FrameMaker 2015

[Yves Barbion]

Thanks to all who replied.

@Scott: Yes, I know about FM9's bad reputation. ;-)  I don't need to
convince my customer, Scott. They have already (or finally) made the
decision to upgrade.

Cheers!

Yves

On 10 October 2016 at 18:19, Scott Prentice <s...@leximation.com> wrote:

> Not aware of such a list.
>
> If you're trying to convince someone to upgrade, here's my list ..
>
> - FM9 was the *worst* version of FM ever produced. (First version with the
> new GUI, and much was broken. It's gotten better with each successive
> release, making FM2015 significantly better and more stable than FM9.)
>
> Cheers!
> ...scott
>
>
>
> On 10/10/16 7:41 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:
>
>> Hi group
>>
>> I'm looking for a feature comparison list between Framemaker 9 and
>> FrameMaker 2015.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
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[Framers] Feature comparison list Framemaker 9 vs. FrameMaker 2015

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I'm looking for a feature comparison list between Framemaker 9 and
FrameMaker 2015.

Any ideas?

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Re: [Framers] Oh not! Please not that old CMYK bug in Fm 12 again... [SOLVED]

[Yves Barbion]

​Hi group

I found the cause of the problem​: a logo in Illustrator EPS format, which
seemed to be too complex for Distiller.

I just exported the logo to PNG and now Distiller is happily generating my
CMYK PDF.

So, no CMYK PDF bug in Frame and no font issues (fortunately).

Cheers!

Yves




On 1 September 2016 at 12:57, Amit Agarwal <amaga...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Oh. In that case - you can pls send us your file - we will want to have a
> look at it.
>
>
>
> ------
> *From:* Yves Barbion <yves.barb...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2016 4:16:43 PM
> *To:* Amit Agarwal
> *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Framers] Oh not! Please not that old CMYK bug in Fm 12
> again...
>
> Thank you for your prompt reply, Amit.
>
> I've just checked my files (generated a list of used fonts) and Courier is
> not used. The only fonts used are: Calibri, Myriad Pro and Times new Roman.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Yves
>
>
>
> On 1 September 2016 at 12:16, Amit Agarwal <amaga...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Yves,
>>
>>
>> We had investigated this issue earlier:
>>
>>
>> The reason behind the "Offending Command" could be due to a Font family
>> “Courier” used in those documents.
>>
>> “Courier New” should be used in place of “Courier” from Windows 7 onwards.
>>
>>
>> If the references of "Courier" is replaced with “Courier New” then the
>> problem should get corrected.
>>
>>
>> This should fix the output with FM2015 as well - What are the OS
>> flavors where FM11 & FM12 are installed?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Amit
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Framers <framers-bounces+amagarwa=adobe@lists.frameusers.com>
>> on behalf of Yves Barbion <yves.barb...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:05 PM
>> *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> *Subject:* [Framers] Oh not! Please not that old CMYK bug in Fm 12
>> again...
>>
>> Hi group
>>
>> I'm using FrameMaker 12.0.4. When I save a file as PDF and select CMYK,
>> Distiller gives me an offending command and flusing end of job.
>>
>> When I save the file as Fm 11 and use Fm 11 to save the file as CMYK PDF,
>> all is fine.
>>
>> So I guess the old CMYK PDF bug is back in Fm 12? Fm 12 is all patched up
>> and, since Fm2015 has already been released, I guess this bug will not be
>> fixed in Fm12?
>>
>> Has this bug been fixed in Fm2015?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
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Re: [Framers] Oh not! Please not that old CMYK bug in Fm 12 again...

[Yves Barbion]

Thank you for your prompt reply, Amit.

I've just checked my files (generated a list of used fonts) and Courier is
not used. The only fonts used are: Calibri, Myriad Pro and Times new Roman.

Kind regards

Yves



On 1 September 2016 at 12:16, Amit Agarwal <amaga...@adobe.com> wrote:

> Hi Yves,
>
>
> We had investigated this issue earlier:
>
>
> The reason behind the "Offending Command" could be due to a Font family
> “Courier” used in those documents.
>
> “Courier New” should be used in place of “Courier” from Windows 7 onwards.
>
>
> If the references of "Courier" is replaced with “Courier New” then the
> problem should get corrected.
>
>
> This should fix the output with FM2015 as well - What are the OS
> flavors where FM11 & FM12 are installed?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Amit
>
>
> ------
> *From:* Framers <framers-bounces+amagarwa=adobe@lists.frameusers.com>
> on behalf of Yves Barbion <yves.barb...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 1, 2016 3:05 PM
> *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
> *Subject:* [Framers] Oh not! Please not that old CMYK bug in Fm 12
> again...
>
> Hi group
>
> I'm using FrameMaker 12.0.4. When I save a file as PDF and select CMYK,
> Distiller gives me an offending command and flusing end of job.
>
> When I save the file as Fm 11 and use Fm 11 to save the file as CMYK PDF,
> all is fine.
>
> So I guess the old CMYK PDF bug is back in Fm 12? Fm 12 is all patched up
> and, since Fm2015 has already been released, I guess this bug will not be
> fixed in Fm12?
>
> Has this bug been fixed in Fm2015?
>
> Cheers
>
>
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[Framers] Oh not! Please not that old CMYK bug in Fm 12 again...

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I'm using FrameMaker 12.0.4. When I save a file as PDF and select CMYK,
Distiller gives me an offending command and flusing end of job.

When I save the file as Fm 11 and use Fm 11 to save the file as CMYK PDF,
all is fine.

So I guess the old CMYK PDF bug is back in Fm 12? Fm 12 is all patched up
and, since Fm2015 has already been released, I guess this bug will not be
fixed in Fm12?

Has this bug been fixed in Fm2015?

Cheers


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[Framers] SVG exported from Adobe Illustrator is all black when imported into Frame

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I'm doing some tests with SVGs:

   1. Create a line-art drawing in Illustrator and save it as Illustrator
   EPS.
   2. Save the EPS file as SVG with subsetting (one version with all glyphs
   and one version with no glyphs).
   3. Export the EPS file as SVG.

When I view the SVGs in various browsers (Firefox and Chrome), I see that
the exported SVG gives the best result: responsive and all fonts OK. The
"Save As" SVGs are not OK: not responsive and incorrect font (and character
spacing).

So, the exported SVGs seem to work best but... when I import them into
Frame 11 of 12, they are all black.

Any ideas whether this can be fixed and how?

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Re: [Framers] Import AutoCad dwg files

[Yves Barbion]

Thank you Klaus

Yes, I had already found this page on your website when I googled around
for "import dwg in FrameMaker". And "severe problems" is what I would try
to avoid, so I think I'll stick with exporting the AutoCad drawings to PDF
(or SVG) and import those in Fm.

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Re: [Framers] Import AutoCad dwg files

[Yves Barbion]

Well, AutoCad (DWG) is in the list of file formats in the Import dialog, so
I suppose Frame should be able to import it.
Our current workaround is to export the AutoCad drawings to PDF and import
PDF, which works nicely.

Y

On 17 August 2016 at 11:46, Shmuel Wolfson <shmue...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is frame supposed to be able to import that format?
> One option is to open it in CorelDraw and save it as CorelDraw.
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>
>
> On 17-Aug-16 11:48 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:
>
>> Hi group
>>
>> Has anyone ever succeeded in importing AutoCad .dwg files into FrameMaker?
>> I've tested this with several versions of dwg files (2000 and 2010) and
>> Frame 11 and 12, but I keep getting the error message "The filter
>> encountered an error and could not complete the translation".
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[Framers] Import AutoCad dwg files

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

Has anyone ever succeeded in importing AutoCad .dwg files into FrameMaker?
I've tested this with several versions of dwg files (2000 and 2010) and
Frame 11 and 12, but I keep getting the error message "The filter
encountered an error and could not complete the translation".

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[Framers] pagenum with leading 0: <$curpagenum01>?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi again Framers

I'd like to have a leading zero in my page numbers, so <$curpagenum01>,
similar to <$daynum01>.

Can this be done or is this a feature request for the next version of Frame?

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[Framers] Insert modification date on changed pages

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Framers

I've got a product catalogue of which the content mainly consists of
illustrations (in PDF format). Each page has 1 illustration imported by
reference and the footer on each page currently contains the "modification
date". This date is currently identical on all pages in a chapter, because
it is the date on which the FrameMaker file was last modified.

Suppose I have one chapter which has 20 pages and I replace (or update) an
illustration on one of those pages. I would then like the date to change on
that particular page only. Is there a way (plugin, script) to do this?

Ideally, the date on each page should be the date which is taken from the
XMP Core Properties from the PDF file (xmp:ModifyDate), but I would be
surprised if this can be done automatically?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 12: "Save as" grayed out

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Klaus

Thank you for your reply. I've tested this again and the problem seems to
occur with files which are on Dropbox. I checked Edit > Preferences >
Global > Dropbox, but I didn't find any special settings there.

So yes, I think we can call this a bug. My workaround is now to save the
file in a non-Dropbox folder and then move it to Dropbox.

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[Framers] FrameMaker 12: "Save as" grayed out

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I see that the "Save as" menu command is grayed out in FrameMaker 12
(12.0.4.445, all patched up), even when I reopen and change the file.

Is this a known Fm12 bug?

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Re: [Framers] Replacement for Archive add-on in Frame 2015?

[Yves Barbion]

I have just tested this (again) with Rick Quatro's Archive Extendscript and
it seems to work well (as expected): graphics from different folders are
collected into a single "Graphics" folder. I guess the script can also be
modified to replicate the original folder structure, if needed.

Cheers

Yves

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Yves Barbion <yves.barb...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Caroline
>
> Maybe the Archive Extendscript will work better?
>
> http://frameautomation.com/in-memory-of-bruce-foster/
>
> Cheers
>
> Yves
>
>
>


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Re: [Framers] Replacement for Archive add-on in Frame 2015?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Caroline

Maybe the Archive Extendscript will work better?

http://frameautomation.com/in-memory-of-bruce-foster/

Cheers

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker and Salesforce

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Robyn

Salesforce uses DITA for their documentation. Just google "salesforce" and
"dita" for more info. FrameMaker supports DITA, and you get enhanced DITA
support with Leximation's DITA-FMx plugin. oXygenXML supports DITA too and
runs on Windows and Mac, so DITA seems like an obvious choice to me.

Kind regards

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On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Robyn Chittister <rchittis...@vlocity.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does anyone use FrameMaker and then integrate that documentation with
> Salesforce?
>
> I'm 1 of 1-1/2 technical writers at a start up that creates cloud apps for
> Salesforce. We are currently using Salesforce Knowledge to create and
> deliver our documentation. Knowledge is possibly the worst documentation
> tool I have ever used. We've been looking at various single-sourcing
> solutions, and we're down to MadCap Flare and FrameMaker.
>
> I'm a FrameMaker user from way back - I started with FM+SGML 5.5 in 1999. I
> developed templates and tools for FM+SGML and FM+XML from 1999-2005. I've
> used FM 12 in an unstructured environment, and am happy to see the
> improvements. I'm not sure how many improvements there have been in the
> structured environment, however. I've tried to contact Adobe, and have
> gotten a human being to say he'll give my questions to a solutions
> specialist to answer. Knowing Adobe, I'm not going to hold my breath.
>
> My questions are:
>
>- Is anyone here writing doc for Salesforce or Salesforce apps? If so,
>what tools do you use?
>- Is there a good comparison of the most recent versions of Flare v. FM?
>The only ones I've been able to find are from several years ago.
>- Is anyone here using FM+XML (either v12 or 2015) who could answer some
>specific questions I have about it?
>
>
> We're a Mac house, so I can't just download the trial versions. We
> understand that we will need to get me set up with a VM and Windows to use
> the software we choose.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
>
> ~Robyn
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Re: [Framers] Save as Word?

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Caroline

I don't know whether MIF2Go works with Frame 2015, but you can still find
the latest version of MIF2Go here, so maybe you could give it a try:

http://www.mif2go.com/download/registered.html

And the other option is indeed to use Acrobat to export your PDFs to Word.
The latest versions of Acrobat do a fairly good job at this.

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Re: [Framers] "Modularity" and FrameMaker

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Eric

Agile, modular documentation, reuse ("bits of information about a product
that could be shared in multiple manuals and possibly other documents"):
all good reasons to "go DITA".

An agile User Story is a standalone feature that is meant to answer one
customer need. Similarly, a DITA topic is a standalone piece of content
that answers a single question, for example:

   - How can I do task X?
   - What is a given concept?
   - Where can I find a given component or software command?

So, in DITA, the idea is that you write standalone topics, which you then
assemble into a DITA map. A DITA map corresponds (more or less) to a
FrameMaker book, but the difference is that each DITA topic is a separate
XML file, whereas the components in a FrameMaker book are usually chapters
in a binary FrameMaker format. This means that reusing information in
unstructured (binary) FrameMaker is more difficult than it is in DITA. In
DITA, you can reuse topics as a whole in various DITA maps, but you can
also reuse parts of a topic, such as a section of a topic or even
individual sentences or paragraphs.

You are already using unstructured Frame 12, which supports DITA, and the
DITA-FMx plugin supports DITA even better:

http://leximation.com/dita-fmx/featurecomparison.php


Y
​ou can google "DITA" and "Agile" and ​you'll find lots of pointers, but
here are some interesting ones:

   -
   
www.embedded.com/design/prototyping-and-development/4230902/DITA-and-the-death-of-technical-documentation-as-we-know-it
   -
   
www.slideshare.net/IXIASOFT/agile-content-development-and-the-ixiasoft-dita-cms?qid=443e7abe-6abe-4772-866b-b627a215cea9=default=_search=2
   -
   
http://www.slideshare.net/nabayanroy/agile-meets-dita-developing-user-documentation-in-an-agile-environment?qid=7d2e654f-15a6-48a4-ae87-4f13f669b22f=qf1=_search=1


​And if you'd like to see how your content would look like in DITA, feel
free to send me a sample FrameMaker book.​


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remapping Frame formats

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

I'm looking for a FrameMaker plugin or script to remap FrameMaker
formats: character formats, paragraph formats, table formats,
cross-reference formats...

I have used TemplateMapper in 2003, but I was wondering whether something
more recent is available somewhere, for example a (Frame)script which works
as follows would be nice:
1. List all the used formats in column A in a separate mapping table, for
example an Excel file.
2. In column B, the user fills in the name of the formats to which the old
formats should be renamed.
3. The user saves the mapping file and then applies this Excel file to
one or more FrameMaker books.



Any ideas?

Thanks

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Re: Flare vs DITA

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Gillian

Why would you have to hire someone to write scripts if you do DITA?

Just like Art, I'd use FM with DITA-FMx. If you know how to create
unstructured Fm templates, you can easily learn how to modify the
component templates that come with DITA-FMx. Actually, the process is
quite simple:

   1. You map the formats from your unstructured template to the formats
   in the DITA-FMx component templates. For example, take the Heading 1
   paratag from your template and rename it to title.0.
   2. You import the formats from your unstructured Fm template into one or
   more DITA-FMx component templates.

Basically, that's it! No scripts required at all. Later, you may want to
finetune your component templates, which may imply:

   - Customizing the EDD and/or
   - Buying some (inexpensive) DITA-FMx add-ons, for example to insert
   (warning) symbols

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On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I think you answered your own question -- if you do need custom scripts to
 do DITA and the company can't afford it, it can't afford it.

 Given that you probably know FM better than Flare, I'd do FM over Flare
 because unstructured Flare isn't going to buy you much, if anything, and
 there's still a steep learning curve.

 If it was me, and it was a newish project without tons of legacy content
 for conversion, I'd use FM with FMx.

 If there are tons of legacy content, I'd probably run unstructured Frame
 and convert later when there was time and money available.

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 On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 8:08 PM, Gillian Flato gill6...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 Art,

 What I am trying to decide is if I should go with Tech Comm Suite or
 Flare/Flare help at a job. If I do unstructured Frame, I can create
 templates myself. If I do Structured Frame with DITA FMx, I can struggle
 with it and eventually do it. If I do DITA, I have to hire someone to write
 scripts which the company can’t afford. I was trying to find out if Flare
 was a better alternative than Frame/Robohelp.

 -Gillian


 On Apr 12, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:

 DITA is a standard for producing documentation.

 Frame, Flare, and a small herd of other editors can create documents that
 support the DITA standards.

 So you're kind of asking an apples and oranges question -- one doesn't
 equal the other; the editors all have different ways of producing content
 that adheres to one or move of the DITA versions.
 
 And when you're talking about modifying their templates, are you
 talking about DITA templates or Flare?

 Flare's, generally, are based on cascading style sheets with some weird
 twists; they are customized for the particular output target -- online
 help, PDF, what have you, so an H1 will likely be different sizes, fonts,
 and so on depending on what output format you're creating

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 wrote:

 How does Flare compare to DITA? It seems like you get all of the
 advantages of topic-baesd authoring, without having to have someone write
 scripts for you. Has anyone tried modifying their templates? How easy or
 difficult is that. How is their help file making product?

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Re: Script to change a paratag based on the autonumber format

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Scott!

Yes! Your script works beautifully!

Thank you very much. So, I guess I owe you a beer (or a lunch) at tekom
tcworld in Stuttgart (I hope you can wait that long)?

Cheers!

Yves



On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com wrote:

  OK .. couldn't resist. Try this ..

 
 var doc = app.ActiveDoc;
 // these para tags must already exist
 var pgfFormat1 = doc.GetNamedObject(Constants.FO_PgfFmt, listitem1);
 var pgfFormat2 = doc.GetNamedObject(Constants.FO_PgfFmt, listitem2);

 if ((!pgfFormat1.ObjectValid()) || (!pgfFormat2.ObjectValid())) {
 alert(Para tags must exist!);
 }
 else
 {
 var pgf = doc.MainFlowInDoc.FirstTextFrameInFlow.FirstPgf;

 while(pgf.ObjectValid() == true)
 {
 var autonum = pgf.AutoNumString + ;
 if (autonum.length  0) {
 if (autonum.substring(0, 3) == •\\t) {
 var props = pgfFormat1.GetProps();
 pgf.SetProps(props);
 }
 else if (autonum.substring(0, 3) == o\\t) {
 var props = pgfFormat2.GetProps();
 pgf.SetProps(props);
 }
 }
 pgf = pgf.NextPgfInFlow;
 }
 }
 

 Cheers!
 ...scott
  On 3/6/15 9:28 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:

 Hi Yves...

 The answer to your questions is .. Yes!  :-)

 If you're looking for the code to do it, that might take a bit more time.
 Some generous developer might post the code for you, I'll provide some
 pseudo-code ..

 - iterate each paragraph in the document
 - check the autonumber format value ..
 - if autonum string starts with •\t .. assign the listitem1 para tag
 - if autonum string starts with o\t .. assign the listitem2 para tag

 This should actually be pretty simple .. I just can't do it right now. If
 no one else does, I might though.  :o

 Cheers,
 ...scott



  On 3/6/15 5:07 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:

  Hi group

  I've got a FrameMaker file which was converted from a Word document. The
 FrameMaker file contains the paratag [List Paragraph] but this tag is also
 used by nested bulleted lists. Consequently, the autonumber format is as
 follows:

 •\t for top-level list items
 o\t for second-level list items

  Is there a way to rename the paratag based on the autonumber format, for
 example:

  rename [List Paragraph] with the •\t autonumber format to [listitem1]
  rename [List Paragraph] with the o\t autonumber format to [listitem2]


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Script to change a paratag based on the autonumber format

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Hi group

I've got a FrameMaker file which was converted from a Word document. The
FrameMaker file contains the paratag [List Paragraph] but this tag is also
used by nested bulleted lists. Consequently, the autonumber format is as
follows:

•\t for top-level list items
o\t for second-level list items

Is there a way to rename the paratag based on the autonumber format, for
example:

rename [List Paragraph] with the •\t autonumber format to [listitem1]
rename [List Paragraph] with the o\t autonumber format to [listitem2]


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structured applications on a shared drive

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Hi group

In theory, I guess it must be possible to share a structured application on
a network drive (or a Google drive or dropbox). Is there anyone who has
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FrameMaker 12 Package function doesn't really work

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Hi group

I've got an Fm file with graphics imported by reference. The Fm file is in
folder A and the graphics are in folder B, C and D.

When I try to create a package, I get a message saying that I opted not to
create [a] package if dependent file(s) are missing and that files will
not be copied as they exist outside [the] containing folder of the document
to be packaged.

No I did not opt this and I thought that was the whole idea of creating a
package: to collect all the linked graphics into a single folder (or
subfolders), as the Archive plugin or the Archive ExtendScript did.

So, when I click Continue after seeing the above messages, a ZIP file is
created but it only contains my Fm file, no graphics.

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Re: Structured Framemaker

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Hi Rebecca

You could save the edited structapps.fm file in a temporary folder, for
example C:\temp or on your desktop. Then, you can copy that file to the
FrameMaker installation folder, for example:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\Structure


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Re: Problems with Mif2Go conversion

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Hi Robert

What does the _m2g_log.txt file say? Normally, you should get a .ditamap
file and one or more .dita or .xml files.


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Re: Can a PDF behave like context-sensitive help?

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Hi Beverly

I'm not saying that it's a good idea, but you can make a PDF behave like
context-sensitive help. We have done this recently for one of our
customers. The idea is that you insert context hooks (custom markers) in
your FrameMaker files and then use those markers in the URL which points to
that PDF file, for example:

http://www.datacard.com/documentation/user_guide.pdf#nameddest=M5.8.newlink.topicA

This URL wil open the PDF file on the page where this marker (a named
destination in the PDF file) is used, typically on a title.

The problem with these named destinations, however, is that they also get a
prefix, for example M5.8, where M5 refers to the fifth file in the
FrameMaker book. So, if the content gets updated, and a new file is added
to the book before this fifth file, the prefix will become M6 and you
will have to update all URLs. To avoid this, you can use MicroType
Timesavers:

http://www.microtype.com/TimeSavers/TimeSaversDlg.pdf

It works, but still, PDF is not really an ideal format for
context-sensitive help. But you're using FrameMaker 12, so why don't you
publish to an HTML-based format?

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Re: (no) Console file in FM11 and FM12

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Correct, Wim! Try to explain in training what file translation errors
are. ;-)

I'd change the UI string into Show FrameMaker Console (not to be confused
with the Console Pod)

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On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp w...@idtp.eu wrote:

 Well, there’s more than just file translation errors. On startup there are
 messages generated by plugins (frame script a.o.). May not seem important
 but can be useful.
 More important for me is when publishing DITA to FMbooks, eiher by DITAfmx
 or DITAfm. I needed to debug this process but my consfile remained empty.
 It took me a while to find out that this setting caused all messages to
 disappear, not only the file translation errors but also messages generated
 by DITA-fmx. Hence I think this is a bug. If not, the setting should be
 named something like: omit console file.



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 volgende geschreven:

 Umm, what would you expect to find in the console file if there is nothing
 to be reported to the console? What you usually find there are messages
 about file translation errors, and if you turn that reporting off, it only
 stands to reason that there will be nothing to be reported most of the time.

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Re: (no) Console file in FM11 and FM12

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Indeed Wim, same result here: no console file anymore and empty consfile.txt

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Re: Using XML with FrameMaker

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Hi Mark

You can see a demo of FrameMaker's XML view here:

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How to get rid of the Console pod

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Hi group

FrameMaker 11 has a Console pod and a FrameMaker Console. The
FrameMaker Console is a separate window, so that's OK. The Console pod,
however, keeps reappearing each time I generate a FrameMaker book from a
DITA map, and it does not really give me any relevant information.

Does anyone how to get rid of this Console pod once and for all?

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Re: How to get rid of the Console pod

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Hi Jeff

My Show File Translation Errors option was selected. I have now
deselected it, restarted Fm and tried again, but it doesn't make any
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Re: How to get rid of the Console pod

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Yes please, Scott: Kill the Console pod!

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Fastest way to find an element in an EDD

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Hi EDD developers

Suppose you want to find an element with a specific name quickly in an EDD,
what would be the fastest way?

For example, I want to find an element named keyword in an EDD to specify
its formatting rules. So, I need to find the following:

[Element][Tag] Element (Container):keyword[/Tag]

I do not want to search for text: keyword, because keyword is a child
element of many other elements, so I would find the text keyword in the
[GeneralRule] element of many other elements.

I can search for an element tag: Tag, but I cannot search for an element
tag: Tag which has the text keyword.

So, what do you do to find this element quickly?

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Incorrect font size when inline elements are used

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Hi group

I'm using FrameMaker 11 with DITA-FMx 1.1.18c to generate FrameMaker files
from DITA maps. Sometimes, when inline elements are used, the font size is
incorrect in the generated Fm files. Some examples:

   - The default font size of list items (paratag ul.bullet) is 9 pt. If
   two keywords are used in this list item, however, the (regular) text
   between these two keywords is 10 pt instead of 9 pt. The same happens when
   the ph element is used: the text after the ph element is also 10 pt instead
   of 9.
   - The default font size of text in a table cell is 8 pt. If a keyword is
   used in a list item in a table cell, however, the font size is 10 pt
   instead of 8. And if a uicontrol element is used in a table cell, the font
   size is 9 pt instead of 8.

I checked the EDD:

   - The uicontrol element uses the ui.control character format, so I
   think/hope this can easily be fixed, just by not specifying the font size
   for this character format in the character designer.
   - The ph and keyword elements have TextRangeFormatting  TextRange in
   all contexts, but I don't have any idea how we can fix this problem.

I think I have seen similar posts about this problem earlier, so I think it
must be a FrameMaker bug.

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To execute 'save as PDF' command you must have Acrobat Distiller 5.05 or higher installed

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Hi group

I've got Fm11 and Acrobat Distiller 9 installed on Windows 7 Professional,
all patched up.

Sometimes, when I try to save a book as PDF, I get the error message
saying: To execute 'save as PDF' command you must have Acrobat Distiller
5.05 or higher installed.

But all is well again when I quit and restart FrameMaker.

Must be a known bug, because I have found similar posts from 2010 in other
FrameMaker groups too.

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OT: looking for a font designer

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Hi group

I've got Illustrator EPS vector graphics which I use as icons for notes,
warnings, tips etc. I'd like to create a custom (OpenType) font for these
icons, so I can create a character format and use that in my autonumbering.

So, I'm looking for a professional font designer/developer who can do this.
Any ideas/suggestions/recommendations?

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Re: OT: looking for a font designer

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Hi David

I'm afraid it's not that simple. I have already tested some font editors,
including FontCreator, Fontographer, FontForge and TypeTool and I saw that
the fill and/or stroke of some objects is not always preserved when the EPS
is imported into these editors.

Moreover, the (technical) properties of the font need to be specified
correctly, so that the font embedding/subsetting works properly when we
generate a PDF (and print it) from the FrameMaker files.

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OT: looking for a font designer

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Hi group

I've got Illustrator EPS vector graphics which I use as icons for notes,
warnings, tips etc. I'd like to create a custom (OpenType) font for these
icons, so I can create a character format and use that in my autonumbering.

So, I'm looking for a professional font designer/developer who can do this.
Any ideas/suggestions/recommendations?

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OT: looking for a font designer

[Yves Barbion]

Hi David

I'm afraid it's not that simple. I have already tested some font editors,
including FontCreator, Fontographer, FontForge and TypeTool and I saw that
the fill and/or stroke of some objects is not always preserved when the EPS
is imported into these editors.

Moreover, the (technical) properties of the font need to be specified
correctly, so that the font embedding/subsetting works properly when we
generate a PDF (and print it) from the FrameMaker files.

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Re: DITA conversion and cross-ref IDs

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Hi Rebecca

I agree with Scott and Jeremy:

• If you want to use conversion tables, then Scott's FM2DITA plugin will
definitely help.
• If you have MIF2Go, then most of the cross-references will just work.
Read chapter 15.10 Configuring cross references and links for DITA in the
MIF2Go Help:

http://www.mif2go.com/ohug/ohframe.htm?projName%3Dugmif2go%26projTitle%3DMif2GoUser's
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DITA conversion and cross-ref IDs

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Rebecca

I agree with Scott and Jeremy:

? If you want to use conversion tables, then Scott's FM2DITA plugin will
definitely help.
? If you have MIF2Go, then most of the cross-references will "just work".
Read chapter 15.10 "Configuring cross references and links for DITA" in the
MIF2Go Help:

http://www.mif2go.com/ohug/ohframe.htm?projName%3Dugmif2go%26projTitle%3DMif2GoUser's
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Re: Set-up in Framemaker to link to PDF in attachment

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Dag Tom

Try this:

message openfile C:/temp/my_doc.pdf

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Set-up in Framemaker to link to PDF in attachment

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Dag Tom

Try this:

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Re: Script to convert tables to paragraphs

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I think it would be nice to have Illustrator- and Photoshop-like Actions
in FrameMaker: just record what you're doing, save the actions and then run
them on a bunch of files. Is this a feature request for FrameMaker 12, 13,
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Script to convert tables to paragraphs

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Hi group

I'm looking for a script which does the following:

1. Find tables with a specific table tag, for example graphic_table.
2. Convert those tables to paragraphs (row by row).

Anyone?

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Re: Script to convert tables to paragraphs

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Hi Shmuel

Yes, AutiIT and your script did the trick.

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Script to convert tables to paragraphs

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Hi Shmuel

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Save all files in a FrameMaker book in a single MIF file?

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Hi group

Is there a way (MIF2Go, Framescript, Extendscript) to save all files in a
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