Re: Importing clear, sharp images
My main monitors are just about 100 (top-of-the-line trailing-edge 1600x1200), but I've used from 65 (huge low-res display some moron bought scores of) to 220 (MacBook with Retina display, so basically equivalent to 110 in normal mode) in recent years. LCDs keep getting higher resolution. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: Actually, that turns out not to be the case. If you measure the width and height of your display and divide your screen resolution by those numbers, you're more likely to get a number between 108 and 130 ppi. (My laptop is around 112 and my desktop is around 123.) ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not what I'm seeing on my computer screen. From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM To: Tim Pann; framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF. The way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF, online help, or both? -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.commailto:shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
Are you using File Import File by Reference? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not what I'm seeing on my computer screen. From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM To: Tim Pann; framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF. The way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF, online help, or both? -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
If you're referencing PSD files using File Import File by Reference and the images do not look sharp in generated PDFs, look at the image compression settings in FrameMaker's PDF job options. This is old but the settings were pretty much the same the last time I looked at them: http://lauriston.com/framemaker_tips.html ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
We use PNG or GIF formats to get the sharpest screen captures. We use PDF for all other graphics. On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:36, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Are you using File Import File by Reference? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not what I'm seeing on my computer screen. From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM To: Tim Pann; framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF. The way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF, online help, or both? -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauriston.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as qui...@airmail.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
OK, this thread has veered in multiple directions, and the key point that Fred and I tried to make may have gotten lost, partly because as Fred pointed out, we tend to misuse the term resolution. So let's banish that term. Don't think about resolution and don't do anything resolution-related to your screen shots in PS. So let me try to restate the key point. If you do a screen capture of a window that's 1000 pixels wide and 500 pixels high, it contains 500,000 pixels (picture elements). You want all 500,000 to be present when you import that image into FM. The image file you save in Photoshop, regardless of file format, should still have dimensions of 1000x500 pixels. When you import that 1000x500 pixel image into FM, you decide how wide you want it to be on the page by setting the dpi (dots per inch, the print equivalent of pixels per inch). If you want it 5 wide, set the dpi to 1000/5 = 200 dpi. If you want it 6 wide, set the dpi to 1000/6 = 166.666... - well, round it up to 167 dpi. You get the idea. You want all 500,000 pixels to be there, and simply adjust the size by specifying how closely together they should be - the dot pitch, as Fred pointed out. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:52 AM To: Shmuel; framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not what I'm seeing on my computer screen. From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM To: Tim Pann; framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF. The way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF, online help, or both? -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.commailto:shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
Or just select the High Quality Print or Press Quality job options. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: If you're referencing PSD files using File Import File by Reference and the images do not look sharp in generated PDFs, look at the image compression settings in FrameMaker's PDF job options. This is old but the settings were pretty much the same the last time I looked at them: http://lauriston.com/framemaker_tips.html ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
I only use PNG with screen captures ... the (older) standard GIF color size (used to be set of 256 colors ... has that changed?) would be way too limiting in most cases (not all). Any drawn image with gradients - which are not always obvious - or pictures, will result in a poor quality. And, PNG will be far better for these reasons. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Turner Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:58 AM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images We use PNG or GIF formats to get the sharpest screen captures. We use PDF for all other graphics. On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:36, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Are you using File Import File by Reference? On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: Output is PDF, and yes, my issue is with the finished product, not what I'm seeing on my computer screen. From: Shmuel [shmue...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:15 AM To: Tim Pann; framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF. The way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF, online help, or both? -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail. com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as rob...@lauriston.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/robert%40lauristo n.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as qui...@airmail.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/quills%40airmail.n et Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as syed.hos...@aeris.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/syed.hosain%40aeris.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
PNG is a good choice for all bitmap images. It's lossless (no degradation) and has a complex compression algorithm that can do a good job with various kinds of images. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: I only use PNG with screen captures ... the (older) standard GIF color size (used to be set of 256 colors ... has that changed?) would be way too limiting in most cases (not all). Any drawn image with gradients - which are not always obvious - or pictures, will result in a poor quality. And, PNG will be far better for these reasons. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
If you use the screen resolution, they're all going to look like the dog was sick. John's recommendation for 160 DPI is about the minimum. If you're going to print, or expect your users to print PDFs, I'd go 240 or 300 DPI. You can always downsample; going up is more problematic. If you're using Photoshop, which I think you are given your reference to PSDs, set up an action to resize (if needed using the Save For Web option). Also, look at Dr. Brown's Image Processor Pro, which will save out to multiple formats, sizes and resolutions with one click. AND -- IMPORTANT -- make sure you turn off downsampling graphics when you create PDFs, or you'll be looking at the same problem again -- grainy fuzzy jpgs in the PDF. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: OK this is very interesting. I was under the assumption that you should keep the resolution of the picture at the resolution of the screen, and then import it in also at that resolution. I was not aware that changing the import resolution was advisable. Off top of my head this seems like it would be difficult to get just the right resolution on the first try giving a particular anchored frame size. Do you have some clever method for getting the resolution right the first time? Tim -- *From:* Combs, Richard (CW) [richard.co...@polycom.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:24 PM *To:* Tim Pann; framers *Subject:* RE: Importing clear, sharp images Don’t resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size you want on the page. *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Pann *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM *To:* framers *Subject:* Importing clear, sharp images I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
That would sort of be my point. If you want to -- not have to -- you would create your gold copy of the graphic at say 300 DPI and downsample it automatically in Photoshop or simply adjust it to usable size when you import into FM since you specify the DPI during import. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Setting the resolution in FrameMaker doesn't degrade the image, it just changes its size. If you set a bitmap of a screen shot to 300 dpi, users might have to zoom in 4X to see it. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: If you use the screen resolution, they're all going to look like the dog was sick. John's recommendation for 160 DPI is about the minimum. If you're going to print, or expect your users to print PDFs, I'd go 240 or 300 DPI. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
A screen shot doesn't have an intrinsic dpi. It's just a bitmap of a certain width and height. The image's dpi will vary depending on how many pixels per inch the screen it's displayed on has. I'm not sure there's ever a good reason to downsample a screen shot when you're placing it in FrameMaker and generating PDFs. Just set the dpi in FrameMaker so that the bitmap is a good size relative to the page. The PDF will contain the full-resolution image and users can zoom for more detail. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: That would sort of be my point. If you want to -- not have to -- you would create your gold copy of the graphic at say 300 DPI and downsample it automatically in Photoshop or simply adjust it to usable size when you import into FM since you specify the DPI during import. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
We’re talking about screen captures. Typical monitors display 96 pixels per inch, so you’re not “creating” something at 300 dpi. And you never want or need to downsample a screen capture. I’ll repeat myself just one more time. Ignore “resolution.” Just look at the pixel dimensions of your screen capture. If it’s 1280 x 800 pixels, make sure it remains 1280 x 800 pixels. Period. Divide that 1280-pixel width by the width in inches that you want the graphic to take up in FM, and that’s the dpi you set at import. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 4:32 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images That would sort of be my point. If you want to -- not have to -- you would create your gold copy of the graphic at say 300 DPI and downsample it automatically in Photoshop or simply adjust it to usable size when you import into FM since you specify the DPI during import. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 I support www.TheGrotonLine.comhttp://www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.commailto:rob...@lauriston.com wrote: Setting the resolution in FrameMaker doesn't degrade the image, it just changes its size. If you set a bitmap of a screen shot to 300 dpi, users might have to zoom in 4X to see it. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: If you use the screen resolution, they're all going to look like the dog was sick. John's recommendation for 160 DPI is about the minimum. If you're going to print, or expect your users to print PDFs, I'd go 240 or 300 DPI. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.commailto:art.campb...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
Setting the resolution in FrameMaker doesn't degrade the image, it just changes its size. If you set a bitmap of a screen shot to 300 dpi, users might have to zoom in 4X to see it. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote: If you use the screen resolution, they're all going to look like the dog was sick. John's recommendation for 160 DPI is about the minimum. If you're going to print, or expect your users to print PDFs, I'd go 240 or 300 DPI. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
Images often appear choppy in FrameMaker, but come out better in the PDF. The way they look in FrameMaker is just like a preview. Is your output PDF, online help, or both? -- Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 18-Jun-15 12:10 AM, Tim Pann wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker? If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by changing DPI has no effect on image resolution. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston [rob...@lauriston.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM To: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker? If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by changing DPI has no effect on image resolution. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tp...@telecomsys.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tpann%40telecomsys.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version? From: Tim Pann Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM To: Robert Lauriston; framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston [rob...@lauriston.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM To: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker? If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by changing DPI has no effect on image resolution. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tp...@telecomsys.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tpann%40telecomsys.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features. I consider it an essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for what it does for me every day. I would definitely upgrade. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version? From: Tim Pann Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM To: Robert Lauriston; framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [ framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston [ rob...@lauriston.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM To: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker? If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by changing DPI has no effect on image resolution. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tp...@telecomsys.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tpann%40telecomsys.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- http://www.actifio.com/*John Sgammato, Documentation Architect* *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 *t* @actifiodocs http://twitter.com/actifiodocs 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 http://twitter.com/actifiohttp://www.linkedin.com/company/399246 https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts http://www.youtube.com/user/actifiohttp://www.actifio.com/ *Radically simple copy data management * *.* ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
And why even bring photoshop into the picture? SnagIt will capture and save as PNG directly. That will give you the same quality of captures as what the reader would see on the screen.No additional work required except possible resizing of screens that are larger than the image area of the document. On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:19 PM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com wrote: SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features. I consider it an essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for what it does for me every day. I would definitely upgrade. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version? From: Tim Pann Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM To: Robert Lauriston; framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston [rob...@lauriston.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM To: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker? If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by changing DPI has no effect on image resolution. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tp...@telecomsys.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tpann%40telecomsys.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- | | | | | John Sgammato, Documentation Architect e john.sgamm...@actifio.com c 508.927.2083 t @actifiodocs | | 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 | | | Radically simple copy data management . ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
Several reasons to use Photoshop: 1) I add additional things to the pictures, like arrows and labels and callouts and circles and highlights etc., which I often generate in Illustrator; much easier to move these elements around when they reside on their own layer. 2) I generally make changes to things as I go. For both, it's nice to just change the PS image and hit save. Imported graphic updates automatically, I don't have to re-save in another format, etc. From: David Spreadbury [dspre...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM To: John Sgammato; Tim Pann Cc: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images And why even bring photoshop into the picture? SnagIt will capture and save as PNG directly. That will give you the same quality of captures as what the reader would see on the screen. No additional work required except possible resizing of screens that are larger than the image area of the document. On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:19 PM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com wrote: SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features. I consider it an essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for what it does for me every day. I would definitely upgrade. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.commailto:tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version? From: Tim Pann Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM To: Robert Lauriston; framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston [rob...@lauriston.commailto:rob...@lauriston.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM To: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker? If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by changing DPI has no effect on image resolution. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.commailto:tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tp...@telecomsys.commailto:tp...@telecomsys.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tpann%40telecomsys.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.commailto:john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- [http://www.actifio.com/assets/sig_logo.png]http://www.actifio.com/ John Sgammato, Documentation Architect e john.sgamm...@actifio.commailto:john.sgamm...@actifio.com c 508.927.2083UrlBlockedError.aspx t @actifiodocshttp://twitter.com/actifiodocs 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 [http://www.actifio.com
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
SnagIt can do all those things but not with the same flexibility one can get from using Illustrator, especially layers. Secondly, when you export the file from illustrator to PSD, when you open it in Photoshop, why not use the File Save as Web function and specify PNG as the converted output. You can specify a specific resolution on the Illustrator export and Photoshop will retain that dpi al the way to the PNG. I do this all the time but create GIFs. I have even tried the Save as Web from Illustrator, but it doesn't play well which is strange. Both Adobe products, both creating web-ready graphics. One works (PhotoShop), the other doesn't (Illustrator). I would think the same code could be used in both instances. On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:33 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: Several reasons to use Photoshop: 1) I add additional things to the pictures, like arrows and labels and callouts and circles and highlights etc., which I often generate in Illustrator; much easier to move these elements around when they reside on their own layer. 2) I generally make changes to things as I go. For both, it's nice to just change the PS image and hit save. Imported graphic updates automatically, I don't have to re-save in another format, etc. From: David Spreadbury [dspre...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM To: John Sgammato; Tim Pann Cc: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images And why even bring photoshop into the picture? SnagIt will capture and save as PNG directly. That will give you the same quality of captures as what the reader would see on the screen.No additional work required except possible resizing of screens that are larger than the image area of the document. On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:19 PM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com wrote: SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features. I consider it an essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for what it does for me every day. I would definitely upgrade. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version? From: Tim Pann Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM To: Robert Lauriston; framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston [rob...@lauriston.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM To: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker? If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by changing DPI has no effect on image resolution. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tp...@telecomsys.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tpann%40telecomsys.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info
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Sean Brierley's document might help: http://www.stc-carolina.org/wiki_attachments/Screen_Captures_102.pdf -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Interesting ideas. I'm not going to quite that length between Illustrator and Photoshop. What I create in Illustrator I just copy and paste into Photoshop as a smart object. This removes any resolution discrepancies between the two. From: David Spreadbury [dspre...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:47 PM To: Tim Pann; John Sgammato Cc: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images SnagIt can do all those things but not with the same flexibility one can get from using Illustrator, especially layers. Secondly, when you export the file from illustrator to PSD, when you open it in Photoshop, why not use the File Save as Web function and specify PNG as the converted output. You can specify a specific resolution on the Illustrator export and Photoshop will retain that dpi al the way to the PNG. I do this all the time but create GIFs. I have even tried the Save as Web from Illustrator, but it doesn't play well which is strange. Both Adobe products, both creating web-ready graphics. One works (PhotoShop), the other doesn't (Illustrator). I would think the same code could be used in both instances. On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:33 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: Several reasons to use Photoshop: 1) I add additional things to the pictures, like arrows and labels and callouts and circles and highlights etc., which I often generate in Illustrator; much easier to move these elements around when they reside on their own layer. 2) I generally make changes to things as I go. For both, it's nice to just change the PS image and hit save. Imported graphic updates automatically, I don't have to re-save in another format, etc. From: David Spreadbury [dspre...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:27 PM To: John Sgammato; Tim Pann Cc: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images And why even bring photoshop into the picture? SnagIt will capture and save as PNG directly. That will give you the same quality of captures as what the reader would see on the screen. No additional work required except possible resizing of screens that are larger than the image area of the document. On Wednesday, June 17, 2015 6:19 PM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com wrote: SnagIt is up to v12. It has many excellent new features. I consider it an essential tool of my trade. It is remarkably inexpensive for what it does for me every day. I would definitely upgrade. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 7:09 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.commailto:tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: By the way, I'm using version 7 of SnagIt. Is there any reason in the current or any other context that I should spend the money to get the latest version? From: Tim Pann Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 4:06 PM To: Robert Lauriston; framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images For the PSD images I capture (SnagIt) the thing on the screen to clipboard and copy directly into Photoshop. So the source is definitely good. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] on behalf of Robert Lauriston [rob...@lauriston.commailto:rob...@lauriston.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:18 PM To: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images Are the PSD documents degraded in PDFs or only on screen in FrameMaker? If the former, I'd say export to PNG. Resizing in FrameMaker by changing DPI has no effect on image resolution. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.commailto:tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as tp...@telecomsys.commailto:tp...@telecomsys.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tpann%40telecomsys.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended
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I use SnagIt to capture all my images as PNGs, then I import by reference at 160dpi and they look great. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- http://www.actifio.com/*John Sgammato, Documentation Architect* *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 *t* @actifiodocs http://twitter.com/actifiodocs 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 http://twitter.com/actifiohttp://www.linkedin.com/company/399246 https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts http://www.youtube.com/user/actifiohttp://www.actifio.com/ *Radically simple copy data management * *.* ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Same here. I think SnagIt is an excellent tool and well worth the money. If the image/drawing I want to capture is large (or vectorized), I try to maximise it as much as reasonable (native, without jaggies) on the 1920x1200 screen I use before the screen capture. This makes the PNG capture occur at a good high resolution – i.e., the source quality is better – so that letting FrameMaker downsize it to fit still makes it look good. Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of John Sgammato Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:17 PM To: Tim Pann Cc: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images I use SnagIt to capture all my images as PNGs, then I import by reference at 160dpi and they look great. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.commailto:tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
No, if you import at screen resolution, you're almost always throwing away pixels. Your screen captures typically have to be shrunk to fit on the page in your doc. You want to shrink them by squeezing the existing pixels closer together, not by throwing some of them away. When you import a screen shot into FM, the Imported Graphic Scaling dialog offers Fit in Selected Rectangle. I don't generally use that, but if you're creating the anchored frame first, you might want to try it. I prefer to specify a nice round dpi (dots per inch) number that goes evenly into the typical laser printer resolutions (probably less important today, but old habits die hard). The Imported Graphic Scaling dialog also offers several common dpi options (with the dimensions on the page resulting from that dpi setting), and Custom dpi. It also shows you the pixel dimensions of the file you're importing. If none of the listed common dpi settings result in a size you can use, the math to get exactly what you want isn't hard. If the file is, say, 960 pixels wide, and you want it to fit exactly into a 6 wide frame on the page, divide 960 by 6. Set Custom dpi to the result, 160, and you should have a nice, sharp 6 wide screen shot in your doc. From: Tim Pann [mailto:tp...@telecomsys.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:30 PM To: Combs, Richard (CW); framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images OK this is very interesting. I was under the assumption that you should keep the resolution of the picture at the resolution of the screen, and then import it in also at that resolution. I was not aware that changing the import resolution was advisable. Off top of my head this seems like it would be difficult to get just the right resolution on the first try giving a particular anchored frame size. Do you have some clever method for getting the resolution right the first time? Tim From: Combs, Richard (CW) [richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:24 PM To: Tim Pann; framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images Don't resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size you want on the page. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM To: framers Subject: Importing clear, sharp images I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
OK this is very interesting. I was under the assumption that you should keep the resolution of the picture at the resolution of the screen, and then import it in also at that resolution. I was not aware that changing the import resolution was advisable. Off top of my head this seems like it would be difficult to get just the right resolution on the first try giving a particular anchored frame size. Do you have some clever method for getting the resolution right the first time? Tim From: Combs, Richard (CW) [richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:24 PM To: Tim Pann; framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images Don’t resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size you want on the page. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM To: framers Subject: Importing clear, sharp images I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
Don't resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size you want on the page. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM To: framers Subject: Importing clear, sharp images I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
What's significant about the number 160? Just wondering, since it's not a simple factor of 72 or 144 or 300 etc. From: John Sgammato [john.sgamm...@actifio.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:17 PM To: Tim Pann Cc: framers Subject: Re: Importing clear, sharp images I use SnagIt to capture all my images as PNGs, then I import by reference at 160dpi and they look great. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.commailto:tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.commailto:john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.commailto:listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- [http://www.actifio.com/assets/sig_logo.png]http://www.actifio.com/ John Sgammato, Documentation Architect e john.sgamm...@actifio.commailto:john.sgamm...@actifio.com c 508.927.2083 t @actifiodocshttp://twitter.com/actifiodocs 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 [http://www.actifio.com/assets/twitter1.png]http://twitter.com/actifio [http://www.actifio.com/assets/linkedin1.png] http://www.linkedin.com/company/399246 [http://www.actifio.com/assets/googleplus.png] https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts [http://www.actifio.com/assets/youtube1.png] http://www.youtube.com/user/actifio [http://www.actifio.com/assets/rss1.png] http://www.actifio.com/ Radically simple copy data management . ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
The images align with the text and are still clear. I remember years ago I had to use multiples of 4, but now 150, 160, and 180 look equally good depending on what i am showing. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: What's significant about the number 160? Just wondering, since it's not a simple factor of 72 or 144 or 300 etc. -- *From:* John Sgammato [john.sgamm...@actifio.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:17 PM *To:* Tim Pann *Cc:* framers *Subject:* Re: Importing clear, sharp images I use SnagIt to capture all my images as PNGs, then I import by reference at 160dpi and they look great. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- http://www.actifio.com/*John Sgammato, Documentation Architect* *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 *t* @actifiodocs http://twitter.com/actifiodocs 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 http://twitter.com/actifio http://www.linkedin.com/company/399246 https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts http://www.youtube.com/user/actifiohttp://www.actifio.com/ *Radically simple copy data management * *.* -- http://www.actifio.com/*John Sgammato, Documentation Architect* *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 *t* @actifiodocs http://twitter.com/actifiodocs 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 http://twitter.com/actifiohttp://www.linkedin.com/company/399246 https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts http://www.youtube.com/user/actifiohttp://www.actifio.com/ *Radically simple copy data management * *.* ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing clear, sharp images
To quote the classic TV commercial: Stop! You're both right! When speaking of raster images, the resolution is the *number* of pixels. It is *not* the pixel pitch, whihc ius what we're used to thinking of as resolution when we talk about monitors or printers. What Richard is saying is precisely the advice you've always heard. The resolution--the number of pixels--should always remain the same for the best results. Changing the reproduced size changes the pixel *pitch* but does not change the *number* of pixels. The thing you do *not* want to do is resample the image to change the number of pixels (the resolution); this *always* degrades the quality of the image, anthough the degree of degradation can vary widely depending on the ratio of the two resolutions and the algorithm being used for the resampling or downsampling. And getting the size correct is actually very simple as long as you know how to use a calculator. If you have an image that is 1328 pixels wide, and you need it to fit in a frame that is 3.25 inches wide, you need to set the dpi (the pixel pitch) to 1328/3.25 ≈ 409. In this case you can actually set the size with 0.25% (one part in 400) accuracy. -Fred Ridder From: tp...@telecomsys.com To: richard.co...@polycom.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:30:04 + OK this is very interesting. I was under the assumption that you should keep the resolution of the picture at the resolution of the screen, and then import it in also at that resolution. I was not aware that changing the import resolution was advisable. Off top of my head this seems like it would be difficult to get just the right resolution on the first try giving a particular anchored frame size. Do you have some clever method for getting the resolution right the first time? Tim From: Combs, Richard (CW) [richard.co...@polycom.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 2:24 PM To: Tim Pann; framers Subject: RE: Importing clear, sharp images Don’t resize your screen captures! Save as PNG exactly as captured. When you import them into FM, specify the appropriate DPI setting to make them the size you want on the page. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tim Pann Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 3:11 PM To: framers Subject: Importing clear, sharp images I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as docu...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Importing clear, sharp images
I'm using Frame 9 on Windows 7. And my apologies if this has been covered and answered. Can anyone point me toward a good resource (or just tell me if it's quick) for understanding how to get nice sharp images imported by reference in FrameMaker? I'm working on a doc right now in which I'm mostly importing PSD files. They're all screen captures of a user interface. I have to resize most of them and they're looking pretty choppy. I switched to a TIF image for one and that didn't help. I know that TIFF is the preferred format (not sure about PSD but many of my PSD imports look nice) but I don't know if there are specific guidelines or recommendations about resolution, resizing once imported, etc. I'm happy to provide more information about what I'm doing if needed. No idea what's relevant and what's not. Thank you, Tim CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review, forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all attachments from your computer and network. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing clear, sharp images
If you have Illustrator objects embedded in PhotoShop images you're placing in FrameMaker, the latter may not be smart enough to render the Illustrator objects properly. If you export a PSD as PNG and place that in FrameMaker, and it works fine, then there's definitely something about the embedding. You still haven't said whether you're seeing the degradation anywhere except on screen in FrameMaker. It's not unusual for things to look fine in output that don't look right in FM. On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Tim Pann tp...@telecomsys.com wrote: Interesting ideas. I'm not going to quite that length between Illustrator and Photoshop. What I create in Illustrator I just copy and paste into Photoshop as a smart object. This removes any resolution discrepancies between the two. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
