Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-31 Thread Ekrem Serdar
Thanks for all the messages on here everyone. Unfortunately the theater
here in town won't be able to do it, due to both the fact that IMAX Corp
owns the projector (and the theater doesn't want to clean out emulsion
bits, etc from the machine), and due to time constraints with the
changeover, even if IMAX would be fine were fine with a dirty projector
(obviously a couple emails back and forth). Alas. Great discovering a lot
of your tips though. Hope this thread is useful for someone else who might
want to take on such a project.


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Francisco Torres 
wrote:

> this makes imax look rinky dink...
> ''The production was shot with an innovative camera that places a 360°
> image on each single frame of 10-perf 70mm film. It was then projected onto
> a circular screen using a special projector mounted in the ceiling above
> the audience, engulfing viewers in a continuous, seamless large-format
> image.''
> Mi Pais Vasco -Vasque Country National Pavillion Film- 1992 Expo,Sevilla
>
>
> http://brcweb.com/Projects/mi-pais-vasco-basque-national-pavilion/#.U9p8puNdWzk
>
>
> 2014-07-29 9:19 GMT-04:00 Scott Dorsey :
>
> I have never shot Imax but I have shot Todd-AO 70mm before.
>>
>> The thing about improvised 70mm stuff is that there are basically two 70mm
>> standards.  One has the perfs out at the edge of the film and is used for
>> aerial camera work and the like, while the other has the perfs closer in
>> so that there is room for sound tracks outside the perfs.
>>
>> It's traditional to shoot 65mm in camera, and then contact print the 65mm
>> camera original to a 70mm print since the frame layout and perf positions
>> are the same; the 70mm film just has a little extra on the outside for
>> tracks.
>>
>> What this means is that you can't use existing aerial cameras or a
>> Hasselblad
>> with a 70mm back to shoot stop motion animation unless the camera or back
>> has
>> been modified to handle the narrower motion picture perfs.
>>
>> If you want to do hand drawn animation, though, it should not be too hard
>> to get 65mm clear leader, draw on it, and have the lab print it to 70mm.
>> FotoKem will still do 70mm printing and they might have some clear leader
>> for you.   Technicolor in Glendale might still.
>>
>> It would be great fun to try hand-drawing on the huge Imax frame.
>> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-31 Thread Francisco Torres
this makes imax look rinky dink...
''The production was shot with an innovative camera that places a 360°
image on each single frame of 10-perf 70mm film. It was then projected onto
a circular screen using a special projector mounted in the ceiling above
the audience, engulfing viewers in a continuous, seamless large-format
image.''
Mi Pais Vasco -Vasque Country National Pavillion Film- 1992 Expo,Sevilla

http://brcweb.com/Projects/mi-pais-vasco-basque-national-pavilion/#.U9p8puNdWzk


2014-07-29 9:19 GMT-04:00 Scott Dorsey :

> I have never shot Imax but I have shot Todd-AO 70mm before.
>
> The thing about improvised 70mm stuff is that there are basically two 70mm
> standards.  One has the perfs out at the edge of the film and is used for
> aerial camera work and the like, while the other has the perfs closer in
> so that there is room for sound tracks outside the perfs.
>
> It's traditional to shoot 65mm in camera, and then contact print the 65mm
> camera original to a 70mm print since the frame layout and perf positions
> are the same; the 70mm film just has a little extra on the outside for
> tracks.
>
> What this means is that you can't use existing aerial cameras or a
> Hasselblad
> with a 70mm back to shoot stop motion animation unless the camera or back
> has
> been modified to handle the narrower motion picture perfs.
>
> If you want to do hand drawn animation, though, it should not be too hard
> to get 65mm clear leader, draw on it, and have the lab print it to 70mm.
> FotoKem will still do 70mm printing and they might have some clear leader
> for you.   Technicolor in Glendale might still.
>
> It would be great fun to try hand-drawing on the huge Imax frame.
> --scott
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-29 Thread Scott Dorsey
I have never shot Imax but I have shot Todd-AO 70mm before.

The thing about improvised 70mm stuff is that there are basically two 70mm
standards.  One has the perfs out at the edge of the film and is used for 
aerial camera work and the like, while the other has the perfs closer in 
so that there is room for sound tracks outside the perfs.  

It's traditional to shoot 65mm in camera, and then contact print the 65mm
camera original to a 70mm print since the frame layout and perf positions
are the same; the 70mm film just has a little extra on the outside for
tracks.

What this means is that you can't use existing aerial cameras or a Hasselblad
with a 70mm back to shoot stop motion animation unless the camera or back has
been modified to handle the narrower motion picture perfs.

If you want to do hand drawn animation, though, it should not be too hard
to get 65mm clear leader, draw on it, and have the lab print it to 70mm.
FotoKem will still do 70mm printing and they might have some clear leader
for you.   Technicolor in Glendale might still.

It would be great fun to try hand-drawing on the huge Imax frame.
--scott

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Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-29 Thread Albert Alcoz
It won't be useful for the technical debate around the IMAX projection but in 
2006 I suggested a game to identify the title of the film of a 70mm film strip.
Every player received a postcard with some frames of the film as a gift for his 
or her try. Here's the explanation of it:
http://www.visionaryfilm.net/2006/09/70-mm-of-sara-montiel.html



El Lunes 28 de julio de 2014 22:01, Julian Antos 
 escribió:
 


You can theoretically run 5 perf 70mm on IMAX projectors, though I certainly 
wouldn't do it with anything precious (and pretty much all 70mm is precious 
these days) ... it would be a fun experiment though, you'll just get three 
frames at a time rotated 90 degrees running three times as fast as they should. 
Likewise I often use junk IMAX film as regular 70mm leader since the frame 
lines match up. 



On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Beebe, Roger W.  wrote:

But Jodie's film is just regular 8 perf 70mm, right, not 70/15 perf (Imax), 
which was the original question?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that...
>
>?
>R.
>
>
>
>
> 
>From: FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of Warren 
>Cockerham [warrencocker...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:44 AM
>
>To: Experimental Film Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm
>
>
>Herb & Ekram,
>
>
Jodie Mack and Danielle Ash did make a 70mm direct animation film that I 
believe was commissioned by Orphans it was documented on video and posted 
on Jodie's vimeo page here:  http://vimeo.com/57294787
>
>
Warren 
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Herb Shellenberger  wrote:
>
>Hey Ekrem, 
>> 
>>I’m not seeing it on the online program 
>>(http://www.nyu.edu/orphanfilm/orphans8/ ) but I’m fairly certain Jodie Mack, 
>>possibly in collaboration with another artist, showed a 70mm direct animation 
>>film at the 8th Orphan Film Symposium in 2012. It was my understanding that 
>>it was an original and I think it was a last minute addition to the program, 
>>in light of it being held at the Museum of the Moving Image which has 70mm 
>>capability. It must have been an original and not a print. 
>> 
>>Hope someone else can back up my statement which I’m almost certain was not 
>>some sort of elaborate nerd-dream. 
>>Herb Shellenberger
>>Programs Office Manager
>>
>>3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
>>phone: 215.895.6575   |  fax: 215.895.6562
>>email: he...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org
>> 
>> 
>>From:FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of 
>>Ekrem Serdar
>>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:52 PM
>>To: Experimental Film Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm
>> 
>>Thanks for the tip Roger. I imagined if there were any that they'd be 
>>probably direct animation. I know Brakhage made Night Music on it, but I 
>>highly doubt it's projectable (or that he made a 70mm print of it!) That 
>>said, I also don't know how the machine would handle any direct originals to 
>>begin with. Probably fine... but also probably something worth checking.
>> 
>>Commission might be the best way to go; though I do know that orphaned 70mm 
>>can be hard to come by. According to a projectionist I was talking to, fresh 
>>leader is like a $ grand or so. The couple theaters left that do show IMAX 
>>still throw their trailers out from what I understand (for scavenging), and 
>>you occasionally see one on ebay. A performance is a possibility too...
>> 
>>Unfortunately, the timeframe to do so might be too short in general - I just 
>>learned that a very large theater here (the biggest in Texas!) is apparently 
>>doing the switchover this winter/spring, and I thought it might be a nice 
>>send off to that mechanical beast (if the theater is interested too). That 
>>said, it's unclear whether they're going to get rid of it, though considering 
>>how much space it takes up, I presume they will... but, as said before, all 
>>very tentative and under investigation.
>>
>>In general if any of you other folk have been playing around with it, have 
>>some laying around that you were thinking of doing something with and so on, 
>>be in touch.
>> 
>>On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Beebe, Roger W.  wrote:
>>Ekrem,
>>
>>Here’s the only one I know of:
>>
>>http://www.ninapaley.com/pandoramahome.html
>>
>>Always thought it’d be great to give orphaned prints of Imax film to a bunch 
>>of direct animators to do as they will.  Maybe you need to

Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-28 Thread Julian Antos
You can theoretically run 5 perf 70mm on IMAX projectors, though I
certainly wouldn't do it with anything precious (and pretty much all 70mm
is precious these days) ... it would be a fun experiment though, you'll
just get three frames at a time rotated 90 degrees running three times as
fast as they should. Likewise I often use junk IMAX film as regular 70mm
leader since the frame lines match up.


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Beebe, Roger W.  wrote:

>  But Jodie's film is just regular 8 perf 70mm, right, not 70/15 perf
> (Imax), which was the original question?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong
> about that...
>
> ?
> R.
>
>  --
> *From:* FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of
> Warren Cockerham [warrencocker...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, July 28, 2014 11:44 AM
>
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm
>
>Herb & Ekram,
>
>  Jodie Mack and Danielle Ash did make a 70mm direct animation film that I
> believe was commissioned by Orphans it was documented on video and
> posted on Jodie's vimeo page here:  http://vimeo.com/57294787
>
>  Warren
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Herb Shellenberger 
> wrote:
>
>>  Hey Ekrem,
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m not seeing it on the online program (
>> http://www.nyu.edu/orphanfilm/orphans8/ ) but I’m fairly certain Jodie
>> Mack, possibly in collaboration with another artist, showed a 70mm direct
>> animation film at the 8th Orphan Film Symposium in 2012. It was my
>> understanding that it was an original and I think it was a last minute
>> addition to the program, in light of it being held at the Museum of the
>> Moving Image which has 70mm capability. It must have been an original and
>> not a print.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope someone else can back up my statement which I’m almost certain was
>> not some sort of elaborate nerd-dream.
>>
>> *Herb Shellenberger*
>> *Programs Office Manager*
>> [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CE5258.78B1F010]
>> 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
>> phone: 215.895.6575   |  fax: 215.895.6562
>> email: he...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] *On
>> Behalf Of *Ekrem Serdar
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:52 PM
>> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
>> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the tip Roger. I imagined if there were any that they'd be
>> probably direct animation. I know Brakhage made Night Music on it, but I
>> highly doubt it's projectable (or that he made a 70mm print of it!) That
>> said, I also don't know how the machine would handle any direct originals
>> to begin with. Probably fine... but also probably something worth checking.
>>
>>
>>
>> Commission might be the best way to go; though I do know that orphaned
>> 70mm can be hard to come by. According to a projectionist I was talking to,
>> fresh leader is like a $ grand or so. The couple theaters left that do show
>> IMAX still throw their trailers out from what I understand (for
>> scavenging), and you occasionally see one on ebay. A performance is a
>> possibility too...
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, the timeframe to do so might be too short in general - I
>> just learned that a very large theater here (the biggest in Texas!) is
>> apparently doing the switchover this winter/spring, and I thought it might
>> be a nice send off to that mechanical beast (if the theater is interested
>> too). That said, it's unclear whether they're going to get rid of it,
>> though considering how much space it takes up, I presume they will... but,
>> as said before, all very tentative and under investigation.
>>
>> In general if any of you other folk have been playing around with it,
>> have some laying around that you were thinking of doing something with and
>> so on, be in touch.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Beebe, Roger W. 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ekrem,
>>
>> Here’s the only one I know of:
>>
>> http://www.ninapaley.com/pandoramahome.html
>>
>> Always thought it’d be great to give orphaned prints of Imax film to a
>> bunch of direct animators to do as they will.  Maybe you need to commission
>> a program rather than just curate it?
>>
>> Good luck,
>> R.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Ekr

Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-28 Thread Beebe, Roger W.
But Jodie's film is just regular 8 perf 70mm, right, not 70/15 perf (Imax), 
which was the original question?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong about that...

?
R.


From: FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of Warren 
Cockerham [warrencocker...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 11:44 AM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

Herb & Ekram,

Jodie Mack and Danielle Ash did make a 70mm direct animation film that I 
believe was commissioned by Orphans it was documented on video and posted 
on Jodie's vimeo page here:  http://vimeo.com/57294787

Warren


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Herb Shellenberger 
mailto:he...@ihphilly.org>> wrote:
Hey Ekrem,

I’m not seeing it on the online program 
(http://www.nyu.edu/orphanfilm/orphans8/ ) but I’m fairly certain Jodie Mack, 
possibly in collaboration with another artist, showed a 70mm direct animation 
film at the 8th Orphan Film Symposium in 2012. It was my understanding that it 
was an original and I think it was a last minute addition to the program, in 
light of it being held at the Museum of the Moving Image which has 70mm 
capability. It must have been an original and not a print.

Hope someone else can back up my statement which I’m almost certain was not 
some sort of elaborate nerd-dream.
Herb Shellenberger
Programs Office Manager
[cid:image001.jpg@01CE5258.78B1F010]
3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
phone: 215.895.6575   |  fax: 215.895.6562
email: he...@ihphilly.org<mailto:he...@ihphilly.org> | web: 
www.ihousephilly.org<http://www.ihousephilly.org/>


From: FrameWorks 
[mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com<mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com>]
 On Behalf Of Ekrem Serdar
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:52 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

Thanks for the tip Roger. I imagined if there were any that they'd be probably 
direct animation. I know Brakhage made Night Music on it, but I highly doubt 
it's projectable (or that he made a 70mm print of it!) That said, I also don't 
know how the machine would handle any direct originals to begin with. Probably 
fine... but also probably something worth checking.

Commission might be the best way to go; though I do know that orphaned 70mm can 
be hard to come by. According to a projectionist I was talking to, fresh leader 
is like a $ grand or so. The couple theaters left that do show IMAX still throw 
their trailers out from what I understand (for scavenging), and you 
occasionally see one on ebay. A performance is a possibility too...

Unfortunately, the timeframe to do so might be too short in general - I just 
learned that a very large theater here (the biggest in Texas!) is apparently 
doing the switchover this winter/spring, and I thought it might be a nice send 
off to that mechanical beast (if the theater is interested too). That said, 
it's unclear whether they're going to get rid of it, though considering how 
much space it takes up, I presume they will... but, as said before, all very 
tentative and under investigation.

In general if any of you other folk have been playing around with it, have some 
laying around that you were thinking of doing something with and so on, be in 
touch.

On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Beebe, Roger W. 
mailto:beebe...@osu.edu>> wrote:
Ekrem,

Here’s the only one I know of:

http://www.ninapaley.com/pandoramahome.html

Always thought it’d be great to give orphaned prints of Imax film to a bunch of 
direct animators to do as they will.  Maybe you need to commission a program 
rather than just curate it?

Good luck,
R.

On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Ekrem Serdar 
mailto:ekremser...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Hey Framers,
>
>   I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a screening with 
> an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of you folk have 
> played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on it). As said, it's 
> very tentative, and I'm sure there's only a small bunch of you if any, but if 
> you have, be in touch.
>
>  (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work sideways(!) - I 
> presume the film strip is otherwise the same, distance between perfs, etc? 
> Not sure, feel free to correct me.)
>
>
>
> --
> ekrem serdar
> austin, tx
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Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-28 Thread Warren Cockerham
Herb & Ekram,

Jodie Mack and Danielle Ash did make a 70mm direct animation film that I
believe was commissioned by Orphans it was documented on video and
posted on Jodie's vimeo page here:  http://vimeo.com/57294787

Warren


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Herb Shellenberger 
wrote:

>  Hey Ekrem,
>
>
>
> I’m not seeing it on the online program (
> http://www.nyu.edu/orphanfilm/orphans8/ ) but I’m fairly certain Jodie
> Mack, possibly in collaboration with another artist, showed a 70mm direct
> animation film at the 8th Orphan Film Symposium in 2012. It was my
> understanding that it was an original and I think it was a last minute
> addition to the program, in light of it being held at the Museum of the
> Moving Image which has 70mm capability. It must have been an original and
> not a print.
>
>
>
> Hope someone else can back up my statement which I’m almost certain was
> not some sort of elaborate nerd-dream.
>
> *Herb Shellenberger*
> *Programs Office Manager*
> [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CE5258.78B1F010]
> 3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
> phone: 215.895.6575   |  fax: 215.895.6562
> email: he...@ihphilly.org | web: www.ihousephilly.org
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ekrem Serdar
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 26, 2014 1:52 PM
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm
>
>
>
> Thanks for the tip Roger. I imagined if there were any that they'd be
> probably direct animation. I know Brakhage made Night Music on it, but I
> highly doubt it's projectable (or that he made a 70mm print of it!) That
> said, I also don't know how the machine would handle any direct originals
> to begin with. Probably fine... but also probably something worth checking.
>
>
>
> Commission might be the best way to go; though I do know that orphaned
> 70mm can be hard to come by. According to a projectionist I was talking to,
> fresh leader is like a $ grand or so. The couple theaters left that do show
> IMAX still throw their trailers out from what I understand (for
> scavenging), and you occasionally see one on ebay. A performance is a
> possibility too...
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, the timeframe to do so might be too short in general - I
> just learned that a very large theater here (the biggest in Texas!) is
> apparently doing the switchover this winter/spring, and I thought it might
> be a nice send off to that mechanical beast (if the theater is interested
> too). That said, it's unclear whether they're going to get rid of it,
> though considering how much space it takes up, I presume they will... but,
> as said before, all very tentative and under investigation.
>
> In general if any of you other folk have been playing around with it, have
> some laying around that you were thinking of doing something with and so
> on, be in touch.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Beebe, Roger W. 
> wrote:
>
> Ekrem,
>
> Here’s the only one I know of:
>
> http://www.ninapaley.com/pandoramahome.html
>
> Always thought it’d be great to give orphaned prints of Imax film to a
> bunch of direct animators to do as they will.  Maybe you need to commission
> a program rather than just curate it?
>
> Good luck,
> R.
>
>
> On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Ekrem Serdar  wrote:
>
> > Hey Framers,
> >
> >   I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a screening
> with an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of you folk
> have played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on it). As
> said, it's very tentative, and I'm sure there's only a small bunch of you
> if any, but if you have, be in touch.
> >
> >  (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work sideways(!)
> - I presume the film strip is otherwise the same, distance between perfs,
> etc? Not sure, feel free to correct me.)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ekrem serdar
> > austin, tx
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-28 Thread Herb Shellenberger
Hey Ekrem,

I'm not seeing it on the online program 
(http://www.nyu.edu/orphanfilm/orphans8/ ) but I'm fairly certain Jodie Mack, 
possibly in collaboration with another artist, showed a 70mm direct animation 
film at the 8th Orphan Film Symposium in 2012. It was my understanding that it 
was an original and I think it was a last minute addition to the program, in 
light of it being held at the Museum of the Moving Image which has 70mm 
capability. It must have been an original and not a print.

Hope someone else can back up my statement which I'm almost certain was not 
some sort of elaborate nerd-dream.
Herb Shellenberger
Programs Office Manager
[cid:image001.jpg@01CE5258.78B1F010]
3701 CHESTNUT STREET | PHILADELPHIA, PA 19104
phone: 215.895.6575   |  fax: 215.895.6562
email: he...@ihphilly.org<mailto:he...@ihphilly.org> | web: 
www.ihousephilly.org<http://www.ihousephilly.org/>


From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of 
Ekrem Serdar
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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

Thanks for the tip Roger. I imagined if there were any that they'd be probably 
direct animation. I know Brakhage made Night Music on it, but I highly doubt 
it's projectable (or that he made a 70mm print of it!) That said, I also don't 
know how the machine would handle any direct originals to begin with. Probably 
fine... but also probably something worth checking.

Commission might be the best way to go; though I do know that orphaned 70mm can 
be hard to come by. According to a projectionist I was talking to, fresh leader 
is like a $ grand or so. The couple theaters left that do show IMAX still throw 
their trailers out from what I understand (for scavenging), and you 
occasionally see one on ebay. A performance is a possibility too...

Unfortunately, the timeframe to do so might be too short in general - I just 
learned that a very large theater here (the biggest in Texas!) is apparently 
doing the switchover this winter/spring, and I thought it might be a nice send 
off to that mechanical beast (if the theater is interested too). That said, 
it's unclear whether they're going to get rid of it, though considering how 
much space it takes up, I presume they will... but, as said before, all very 
tentative and under investigation.

In general if any of you other folk have been playing around with it, have some 
laying around that you were thinking of doing something with and so on, be in 
touch.

On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Beebe, Roger W. 
mailto:beebe...@osu.edu>> wrote:
Ekrem,

Here's the only one I know of:

http://www.ninapaley.com/pandoramahome.html

Always thought it'd be great to give orphaned prints of Imax film to a bunch of 
direct animators to do as they will.  Maybe you need to commission a program 
rather than just curate it?

Good luck,
R.

On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Ekrem Serdar 
mailto:ekremser...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Hey Framers,
>
>   I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a screening with 
> an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of you folk have 
> played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on it). As said, it's 
> very tentative, and I'm sure there's only a small bunch of you if any, but if 
> you have, be in touch.
>
>  (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work sideways(!) - I 
> presume the film strip is otherwise the same, distance between perfs, etc? 
> Not sure, feel free to correct me.)
>
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-28 Thread Marcos Ortega
José Antonio Sistiaga made/painted at least two of his films on this
format: "Impresiones de la alta atmósfera" and "Han (sobre el sol)". There
is a 70mm print of the first one and has been screened (very rarely) at
IMAX cinemas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqeKztwmBiw

On Fri, July 25, 2014 10:12 pm, Ekrem Serdar wrote:
> Hey Framers,
>
>
> I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a screening
> with an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of you folk
> have played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on it). As
> said, it's very tentative, and I'm sure there's only a small bunch of you
>  if any, but if you have, be in touch.
>
> (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work sideways(!) -
> I
> presume the film strip is otherwise the same, distance between perfs, etc?
>  Not sure, feel free to correct me.)
>
>
>
>
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[Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-26 Thread Nicholas Kovats
I am very interested. I actually have a handheld 14 perf 70mm camera I
would love to test out. Projecting 70mm would be awesome.

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Ekrem Serdar > wrote:
> Hey Framers,
>
>   I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a screening
> with an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of you folk
> have played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on it). As
> said, it's very tentative, and I'm sure there's only a small bunch of you
if
> any, but if you have, be in touch.
>
>  (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work sideways(!) -
I
> presume the film strip is otherwise the same, distance between perfs, etc?
> Not sure, feel free to correct me.)
>
>
>
> --
> ekrem serdar
> austin, tx
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-26 Thread Ekrem Serdar
Thanks for the tip Roger. I imagined if there were any that they'd be
probably direct animation. I know Brakhage made Night Music on it, but I
highly doubt it's projectable (or that he made a 70mm print of it!) That
said, I also don't know how the machine would handle any direct originals
to begin with. Probably fine... but also probably something worth checking.

Commission might be the best way to go; though I do know that orphaned 70mm
can be hard to come by. According to a projectionist I was talking to,
fresh leader is like a $ grand or so. The couple theaters left that do show
IMAX still throw their trailers out from what I understand (for
scavenging), and you occasionally see one on ebay. A performance is a
possibility too...

Unfortunately, the timeframe to do so might be too short in general - I
just learned that a very large theater here (the biggest in Texas!) is
apparently doing the switchover this winter/spring, and I thought it might
be a nice send off to that mechanical beast (if the theater is interested
too). That said, it's unclear whether they're going to get rid of it,
though considering how much space it takes up, I presume they will... but,
as said before, all very tentative and under investigation.

In general if any of you other folk have been playing around with it, have
some laying around that you were thinking of doing something with and so
on, be in touch.


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Beebe, Roger W.  wrote:

> Ekrem,
>
> Here's the only one I know of:
>
> http://www.ninapaley.com/pandoramahome.html
>
> Always thought it'd be great to give orphaned prints of Imax film to a
> bunch of direct animators to do as they will.  Maybe you need to commission
> a program rather than just curate it?
>
> Good luck,
> R.
>
> On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Ekrem Serdar  wrote:
>
> > Hey Framers,
> >
> >   I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a screening
> with an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of you folk
> have played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on it). As
> said, it's very tentative, and I'm sure there's only a small bunch of you
> if any, but if you have, be in touch.
> >
> >  (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work sideways(!)
> - I presume the film strip is otherwise the same, distance between perfs,
> etc? Not sure, feel free to correct me.)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ekrem serdar
> > austin, tx
> > ___
> > FrameWorks mailing list
> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Films made on 15/70mm

2014-07-26 Thread Beebe, Roger W.
Ekrem,

Here’s the only one I know of:

http://www.ninapaley.com/pandoramahome.html

Always thought it’d be great to give orphaned prints of Imax film to a bunch of 
direct animators to do as they will.  Maybe you need to commission a program 
rather than just curate it?

Good luck,
R.

On Jul 25, 2014, at 4:12 PM, Ekrem Serdar  wrote:

> Hey Framers,
> 
>   I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a screening with 
> an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of you folk have 
> played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on it). As said, it's 
> very tentative, and I'm sure there's only a small bunch of you if any, but if 
> you have, be in touch.
> 
>  (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work sideways(!) - I 
> presume the film strip is otherwise the same, distance between perfs, etc? 
> Not sure, feel free to correct me.)
> 
>   
> 
> -- 
> ekrem serdar
> austin, tx
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2014-07-25 Thread Ekrem Serdar
Hey Framers,

  I'm investigating a possibility where we may be able to do a screening
with an IMAX film projector, and I guess I'm wondering if any of you folk
have played around with the 15/70 (or know of films that are on it). As
said, it's very tentative, and I'm sure there's only a small bunch of you
if any, but if you have, be in touch.

 (or if you just worked with regular 70mm and it would work sideways(!) - I
presume the film strip is otherwise the same, distance between perfs, etc?
Not sure, feel free to correct me.)



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