Re: How to get out of GNOME?

2004-10-31 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 10:27:41PM -0700, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 Andrew Jones wrote:
  Jay O'Brien wrote:
 
 Ok, what DO I do to shut down gnome if I don't want it running?
 
  
  ctrl+alt+backspace. It crashes the xserver though, but it'll exit.
 
 Nope. It doesn't work for me. With gdm/X running, ctl+alt+bksp goes 
 first to black screen then comes back with a new logon window. If I 
 do it enough times, it reports to the virtual terminal The display 
 server has been shut down about 6 times in the last 90 seconds, it 
 is likely that something bad is going on. I will wait for two minutes 
 before trying again on display :0. and then it comes back on. 

Turn the gdm entry in /etc/ttys to off. kill -HUP 1. Then kill the
gdm process.
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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-31 Thread cpghost
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 03:20:39PM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote:
 Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to 
 be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle 
 PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on 
 the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows, 
 and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice.

You may be better off with Soekris boxes, e.g. the net4801,
which runs FreeBSD RELENG_5 just fine:

  http://www.soekris.com/

 Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid?
 
 --Paul Hoffman

Cheers,
cpghost.

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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-31 Thread cpghost
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 11:38:02PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 Here is a better idea!
 Step 1: Go dumpster diving for old computers (Pentium 1 or better, 8MB 
 IDE Storage Device or better, and a minimun of 48MB/Ram).
 Step 2: Grab some networks cards wail your in the dumpster.
 Step 3: Install said network cards into computers.
 Step 4: Install and configure m0n0wall on said computers. 
 http://m0n0.ch/wall/
 Step 5: Profit???
 --
 Total Cost: $0.00

Well, depending on your geographic location, you may want to
consider power consumption as the main cost factor here.
A Soekris box would consume something around 5-10 Watt or so
on average. Compare this to even the slowest Pentium. Oh, and
they are absolutely silent as well :-)

-cpghost.

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Re: Soekris engineering routers

2004-10-31 Thread cpghost
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 08:24:06PM -0500, David Kelly wrote:
 IIRC one set of scripts and utilities for creating a minimal FreeBSD 
 for Soekris is called MiniBSD.

You probably mean nanobsd, on FreeBSD 5.X:
  /usr/src/tools/tools/nanobsd

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Re: vinum disklabel FBSD 5.2.1....

2004-10-31 Thread matt virus
nobody ???


matt virus wrote:
Hi all!
I have (8) maxtor 160gb drives I plan on constructing a vinum raid5 
array with.

the devices are:
ad4ad11
All drives have been fdisk'd and such,
ad4s1d.ad11s1d
The first step of setting up vinum is changing the disklabel
disklabel -e /dev/ad4
The disk label says it has 8 partitions, but only the A and C partitions 
are shown...

**MY DISKLABEL
# /dev/ad4:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a: 320173040   16unused0  0
  c: 3201730560unused0  0 # raw part, don't edit
**
Now, i know i have to change *something* to   vinum  but i'm unsure 
which one, or if I need to actually add a line or ???

This is my first time playing with vinum, i've read a handful of howtos 
and all the documentation I find shows the disklabel looking like this:

*HOWTO's Disklabel
# disklabel da0
[snip]
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:  1024000  10240004.2BSD 2048 1638490
  b:  10240000  swap
  c: 179124120unused0 0
  e: 15864412  2048000 vinum

(source: http://org.netbase.org/vinum-mirrored.html)
Any direction is appreciated :-)
-matt
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Re: How to get out of GNOME? (resolved)

2004-10-31 Thread Jay O'Brien
Jonathan Chen wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 10:27:41PM -0700, Jay O'Brien wrote:
 
Andrew Jones wrote:

Jay O'Brien wrote:

Ok, what DO I do to shut down gnome if I don't want it running?


ctrl+alt+backspace. It crashes the xserver though, but it'll exit.

Nope. It doesn't work for me. With gdm/X running, ctl+alt+bksp goes 
first to black screen then comes back with a new logon window. If I 
do it enough times, it reports to the virtual terminal The display 
server has been shut down about 6 times in the last 90 seconds, it 
is likely that something bad is going on. I will wait for two minutes 
before trying again on display :0. and then it comes back on. 
 
 
 Turn the gdm entry in /etc/ttys to off. kill -HUP 1. Then kill the
 gdm process.

There is no gdm entry in /etc/ttys. kill -HUP 1 doesn't seem to have 
any effect. However.

In top, killing XFree86 or gdmlogin restarts GNOME. killing them both 
results in a No such process error on gdmlogin process and GNOME 
restarts. However, killing the gdm binary that is in poll state 
does the job; killing it causes all four of the processes to drop 
out of the top display. 

Interesting. Thanks everyone, your suggestions helped me find an 
answer that works. I don't think it should be this difficult, tho!

Jay 


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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-31 Thread Dick Davies
* Robert Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1036 04:36]:
 On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:12:19 +0200
 Emanuel Strobl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 00:20 schrieb Paul Hoffman:
   Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to
   be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle
   PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector
   on the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run
   XWindows, and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice.
  
   Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should
   avoid?
  
  Bad idea IMHO. I'd suggest having a look at http://www.soekris.com/
  (net4501 for easiest requirements, better 4801, all in one extendable
  box) or if you 
 
 Or else take a look at mini-ITX:
 
 http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/spearhead/mini-itx/

Good things about laptops:

1. built in console
2. built in UPS - if there's a power cut the box just runs on its battery

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Re: How to print to hp JetDirect/LaserJet

2004-10-31 Thread Jay O'Brien
Mike Jeays wrote:

 Add rm=192.168.1.40 to the /etc/printcap entry.
 
 My example is (faraday is the name of the machine with the printer):  
 
 lp|hp710c:\
 :lp=::rm=faraday:rp=lp:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:sd=/var/spool/lpd:mx#0:
 

Mike, Thanks much, but that doesn't work for me. I also tried 
rm=http://192.168.1.40 and that produced some error results; I'll 
experiment more tomorrow.

Jay 

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5.3-RC1 problem with SiI 3114 (Tyan S2882 in i386 mode) with some disks

2004-10-31 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Hi
I have a Tyan S2882 dual opteron running 5.3-RC1 (I think -- uname says 
5.3-STABLE but I did it soon after RC1 came out -- I must have misread 
which branch to synch with).

I have 1 WD 36GB Raptor SATA drive and 2 WD 200GB SATA drives.  These 
are not the boot drives or anything.  An Adaptec 2200S with 2 SCSI 
based RAIDs are the main boot and used disks.  The SATA is for swap and 
backup and play space.  The SiI 3114 is used in ultra mode, which 
is the plain disk mode. It is not in raid mode.

This machine was running 5.2-CURRENT from about mid summer.  The 
onboard SiI 3114 was not working right at the time I had last updated 
the system, but I did not get the following error.  Under 5.2-CURRENT 
the Raptor and one of the 200GB drives was hooked to a Promise SATA 
card and the last WD card was hooked to the SiI 3114 but not used due 
to some problems.  After I updated to 5.3 (I believe RC1 as I said 
above), the machine will no longer boot with the following errors (if I 
hook the same drives to a Promise SATA card) this is not a problem and 
the disks work.  (This is with one disk on the SiI 3114)

ata7-master:  FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY status=51READY,DSC,ERROR 
error=4ABORTED
ata7-master:  FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY status=51READY,DSC,ERROR 
error=4ABORTED
ata7-master:  FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY timed out

If I put all 3 disks on the SiI 3114 and remove the promise card, the 
Raptor drive is found correctly but when it goes to find the first 
200GB drive, the same error pops up (the ata bus number changes)

ata3-master:  FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY status=51READY,DSC,ERROR 
error=4ABORTED
ata3-master:  FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY status=51READY,DSC,ERROR 
error=4ABORTED
ata3-master:  FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY timed out

Since the drives seem to work fine with the Promise card, I think the 
drives are OK.  It happens with both 200GB drives, in any order I put 
them.  The 36GB Raptor does seem to be found OK at boot though.

I updated the Tyan MB bios (which updated the SiI bios) to the latest 
available from the Tyan website and the problem still happens.

Unfortunately I cannot use the Promise card in production as it is not 
a 2U compatible card and this is a 2U server.   Up to now, since it is 
in testing for the last 6 months, I have left the lid slightly askew 
for the cables, but cannot do that when I put the machine into 
production, which I want to do soon, when 5.3-RELEASE comes out or soon 
thereafter...

It seems that there is some problem in the ATA driver for this chip???
Thanks
Chad
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Raidframe problem

2004-10-31 Thread Lorant Leopold
Hi All,
I have a pair of IDE disks which have FreeBSD 4.9 installed on them on two 
mirrored (raid1) raidframe partitions:
raid0 mounted as /
raid1 as /usr
Something went wrong with this installation as it hangs at the startup, 
regardless whether one or both disks are present and I am not able to fix 
it. More importantly, before I reinstall fresh the whole thing, I need to 
save some data from the /usr partition.

I plugged a third disk in the system and installed on it a vanilla FreeBSD 
5.2.1 kern-developer distribution. I created the config file for the raid 
device, but whenever I try to create the raid device by using  'raidctl -C 
/etc/raid0.conf'  the system reboots with:
Kernelized RAIDframe activated
RAIDFrame: protectedSectors is 64
Waiting for DAG engine to start
Panic: lockmgr: thread ... 'snip'

Any ideas of what is wrong? This is brand new fresh install.
Thanks, Leo
The config file and disklabels I used are follows:
START array
1 2 0
START disks
/dev/ad1s1e
/dev/ad2s1e
START layout
64 1 1 1
START queue
fifo 100
# /dev/ad1s1:
type: ESDI
disk: ad1s1
label:
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 16
sectors/cylinder: 1008
cylinders: 1657
sectors/unit: 1670697
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # milliseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # milliseconds
drivedata: 0
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
 a:   49152004.2BSD0 0 0
 b:   262144   491520  swap
 c:  16706970unused0 0 # raw part, don't 
edit
 e:   917033   753664  raid

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Re: How to get out of GNOME? (resolved)

2004-10-31 Thread yuri van Overmeeren
Jay O'Brien wrote:
Jonathan Chen wrote:
 

On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 10:27:41PM -0700, Jay O'Brien wrote:
   

Andrew Jones wrote:
 

Jay O'Brien wrote:
   

Ok, what DO I do to shut down gnome if I don't want it running?
 

ctrl+alt+backspace. It crashes the xserver though, but it'll exit.
   

Nope. It doesn't work for me. With gdm/X running, ctl+alt+bksp goes 
first to black screen then comes back with a new logon window. If I 
do it enough times, it reports to the virtual terminal The display 
server has been shut down about 6 times in the last 90 seconds, it 
is likely that something bad is going on. I will wait for two minutes 
before trying again on display :0. and then it comes back on. 
 

Turn the gdm entry in /etc/ttys to off. kill -HUP 1. Then kill the
gdm process.
   

There is no gdm entry in /etc/ttys. kill -HUP 1 doesn't seem to have 
any effect. However.

In top, killing XFree86 or gdmlogin restarts GNOME. killing them both 
results in a No such process error on gdmlogin process and GNOME 
restarts. However, killing the gdm binary that is in poll state 
does the job; killing it causes all four of the processes to drop 
out of the top display. 

Interesting. Thanks everyone, your suggestions helped me find an 
answer that works. I don't think it should be this difficult, tho!

Jay 

When you started with a login manager the ctrl-alt-backspace=restart X. 
I use kdm, If for some reason I want to exit to terminal I use a 
terminal (logged in as root) and type:

killall kdm
You could try that for gdm.
-yuri
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Re: FireFox crash on Print

2004-10-31 Thread Jason Taylor
Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
Why don't you try a fresh cvsup of your ports tree. Then, upgrade to
firefox-1.0.1.p_4. I think that's pretty much taken care of the
problem for anyone who's done that.
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aurvandil# pkg_info | grep -i firefox
firefox-1.0.1.p_4   Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla

Refer to the archives on [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I sent a path for people to try.
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Upgrading to firefox-1.0.r1,1 fixed the problem :-)
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Re: ACX100 Firmware Licensing

2004-10-31 Thread Jay Moore
On Wednesday 27 October 2004 11:16 am, Christian Weisgerber wrote:
 Compared to other types of hardware, the support for wireless cards
 is lacking on *BSD because many vendors don't provide documentation
 or the cards require the upload of a binary firmware image that,
 absurdly as it sounds, may not be redistributed.  Well, some people
 are working on improving this situation step by step and you can
 help by writing to the hardware vendors.

 Specifically, there already is a FreeBSD 5.x driver for the Texas
 Instruments ACX100 802.11b chipset (DLink DWL-520+, DWL-650+, and
 others), which is currently maintained externally:

 http://wlan.kewl.org/modules/mantis/main_page.php

 However, a firmware binary blob must be uploaded to the card, and
 since TI doesn't allow redistribution it can't be included with the
 driver, rendering it useless.

 mucho snippo 

A few comments/questions:

1) The only driver I've tried is: 
http://acx100.sourceforge.net/
It worked pretty well for me. As I recall there is a script to download the 
firmware - I don't recall from where it was d/l, but I don't remember having 
to check off any license agreement forms during the process. Pretty 
painless... I never realized it was an issue 'til I saw your post.

2) Wouldn't voting with your pocketbook be more persuasive than whining? I 
recently bought two WiFI cards that use the Prism chipset 
(seattlewireless.net) 'cause they've got better support in the systems I use. 
This purchase represents a loss for TI  the mfrs who buy their ACX100 chips, 
and a gain for Intersil and their customers. The free market is pretty 
effective at sorting these things out.

3) As far as 'activism' goes, I think you and the other merry men would be 
heard much more clearly if you each bought a single share of TI stock (it's 
real cheap right now :) and used your status as shareholders to submit 
motions or resolutions to TI's Board of Directors. Better yet, attend the 
annual shareholder's meeting, and let your voices be heard! 

Good Luck,
Jay
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Re: Soekris engineering routers

2004-10-31 Thread Jay Moore
On Saturday 30 October 2004 07:45 pm, LiQuiD wrote:

 I've noticed a few people mention this company, http://www.soekris.com
 in the list now.  Their website claims they can be used with a compact
 flash card.  I'm curious regarding their usage with a flash card as a
 hard drive.  Has anyone successfully been able to install FreeBSD on one
 of those boxes using a compact flash card?

Not FreeBSD, but I have installed and used OpenBSD successfully. There are a 
few tricks involved in using the CF card. Here's my fstab listing - it may 
help get you started: 

$ cat /etc/fstab
/dev/wd0a / ffs rw,noaccesstime 1 1
# /dev/wd0d /tmp ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
/dev/wd0b /tmp mfs rw,nodev,nosuid,-s=128000 0 0
/dev/wd0b /var mfs rw,nodev,nosuid,union,-s=128000 0 0
/dev/wd0g /usr ffs rw,nodev,noaccesstime 1 2

Check the soekris  OpenBSD mailing list archives for more goodies.

 If this were possible, I could replace my router with that, and a couple
 clients' machines with something far smaller and with much less power
 consumption.

Yep - that's the idea.

Jay
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Re: Compatible NIC

2004-10-31 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Friday, 29 October 2004 at 18:09:25 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 10/29/04 3:27:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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 I just voiced my opinion. If you want to use them, feel free. Use 5.2.1.
 with the rl driver. Have the slowest server on the block. What do
 I care?

 A lot, apparently; if you didn't care you wouldn't say anything.  How
 much do you say your time is worth, again?  You must have donated
 hundreds of dollars worth of your caring to the mailing list over
 the past few weeks.  Unfortunately, valuing the time of others in the
 same way, you've also cost the user community many thousands of
 dollars reading your strangely-embittered commentary.

 No one is forcing you to read anything. I never copy you on
 anythere,

I'm not sure what anythere means, but by sending messages to the
mailing list, you're copying Kris and everybody else who is on the
list.

 but here you are again

With good reason.

 Aside from the few weenies like yourself who think you know
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 FreeBSD. Your Klan just paints a rosey picture about everything, so
 nothing you say can have any credibility.

You're welcome to say what you want about FreeBSD.  Just find a more
appropriate channel.  Kris was just asking you to respect the charter
of the mailing list.  I've looked at about 15 messages from you, most
of them insulting, some voicing opinions that run contrary to fact,
and suggesting that you have a good overall understanding of the
project.  Given that you don't know who Kris is, it's difficult to
believe the last point.

In any case: please read the charter.  Please abide by it.  If you
don't, you're in line to become one of the select few who have ever
been banned from this list.

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Exim with Courier Maildir

2004-10-31 Thread Kevin Gilpin
Hi,

 

I have been tasked with moving our current sendmail system currently running
on fedora to Exim with Courier Imap using Maildir on FreeBSD.  

 

Does any one know of any good howto to carry out this operation. 

 

Thanks in advance

 

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Re: entertainment side of fbsd

2004-10-31 Thread Henrik W Lund
asolomon15 wrote:
I was woundering if anyone ever got a game called Unreal Tournament 2004 
running on freebsd?
I did  google search but didn't find anything.
Greetings!
I got UT2K3 working all right on my old i386 box. You need to enable 
Linux emulation, as there only exists builds of that game for Linux 
(aside from WinBlows). I would imagine the same holds true for UT2K4.

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Re: cvsup....base and prefix???

2004-10-31 Thread Henrik W Lund
Aaron P. Martinez wrote:
I have successfully used cvsup a few times now...and i am comfortable
with what the base and the prefix do.  

My question is why would someone put things in different locations than
for instance./usr for both base and/or prefix?  

I have seen a few different options used both in the cvs up faq on the
cvsup homepage, the handbook and also in the complete freebsd  they
all have different places listed..but not one single place is any
discussion about the theory or logic behind where it is placed.
This is really just a help me understand the philosophy question as it
seems that no matter where i place my 'base' and 'prefix' paths..the
cvsup will work...just trying to get a grasp on _why_ i would want it
one place more than another.
Thanks in advance,
Aaron
Greetings!
Being no authority on the matter, I can let you know my thoughts on it.
The base path is where CVSup places all the metadata, i.e. all of the 
control information regarding the files you download.  The prefix path 
is where CVSup places the files it downloads.

The first thing that strikes me logical about changing these two is that 
you can then track several different branches. For instance, -CURRENT in 
/usr/src-CURRENT and -STABLE in /usr/src (the default).

Alternatively, you can point the base and prefix paths at an NFS mount 
and in that way seamlessly distribute the sources.

In short, your fantasy is the only limitation. The option to change them 
exists to add flexibility. After all, you'd rather have the option there 
and never need it, than *not* having it and needing it /desparately/, 
wouldn't you? ;-)

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FreeBSD support of 3Com 3C2000-T NIC

2004-10-31 Thread Martin Hudec
Hello,

is 3Com gigabit 3C2000-T nic supported in FreeBSD4/5? If not, which gigabit 
nic can you recommend to use?

thank you.

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mysql and system/nice cpu usage

2004-10-31 Thread Omer Faruk Sen
Hi, 

I have web server which uses php+mysql. As far as I have searched the best 
thing to use mysql on FreeBSD is to use linuxthreads. For the performance 
and stability I have done following things on my FreeBSD-4.X Stable system: 

Compile mysql with linuxthreads and as static binary. I have read 
http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/000697.html. I have used mysql 4.0 
and 4.1 for my setup but had problems on both of the version. 

My problem is the mysql eats away lots of CPU time especially in nice and 
system which is really very very weird. A snapshot of the top is like 
this: 

--
240 processes: 7 running, 233 sleeping
CPU states: 10.9% user, 73.9% nice, 12.5% system,  2.7% interrupt,  0.0% 
idle
Mem: 244M Active, 1309M Inact, 309M Wired, 93M Cache, 199M Buf, 56M Free
Swap: 3072M Total, 24K Used, 3072M Free
--- 

This system is HTT enabled 2 Xeon 2.8 GHZ with 2 GB RAM. I have disabled SMP 
and recompiled my kernel but my problem (nice and system cpu times..) still 
persists. 

I would appreciate if any of you help me.. 

REGARDS. 


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Re: mysql and system/nice cpu usage

2004-10-31 Thread Chuck Swiger
Omer Faruk Sen wrote:
I have web server which uses php+mysql. As far as I have searched the 
best thing to use mysql on FreeBSD is to use linuxthreads. [ ... ]
240 processes: 7 running, 233 sleeping
CPU states: 10.9% user, 73.9% nice, 12.5% system,  2.7% interrupt,  0.0% 
idle
Mem: 244M Active, 1309M Inact, 309M Wired, 93M Cache, 199M Buf, 56M Free
Swap: 3072M Total, 24K Used, 3072M Free
Well, you've managed to saturate the available CPU power with the workload. 
If you've already done some performance tuning at the FreeBSD level by 
adjusting your kernel config and followed man tuning, you aren't likely to 
get much further by tweaking FreeBSD's config.

Look into optimizing your database utilization by checking the SQL query 
histogram, particularly if your site ends up doing transaction(s) for each 
HTTP hit.  People write books on database management and tuning, and you 
should look there rather than to a FreeBSD list for advice.  :-)

You could also get another machine and run the database and webserver on 
seperate systems to help site performance by dividing and concentrating the 
workload.  Consider switching from MySQL to postgres or a database you 
actually pay for: Oracle, Sybase, Frontbase, etc.

You could also consider another web middleware/scripting evironment than PHP 
which handles database interactions more efficiently: Zope, JSP, WebObjects.

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Re: Soekris engineering routers

2004-10-31 Thread David Kelly
On Oct 31, 2004, at 1:36 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 08:24:06PM -0500, David Kelly wrote:
IIRC one set of scripts and utilities for creating a minimal FreeBSD
for Soekris is called MiniBSD.
You probably mean nanobsd, on FreeBSD 5.X:
  /usr/src/tools/tools/nanobsd
Thats nice too, but this is what I used and expanded upon for a project:
http://neon1.net/misc/minibsd.html
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Re: vinum disklabel FBSD 5.2.1....

2004-10-31 Thread FreeBSD questions mailing list
On 31 okt 2004, at 07:41, matt virus wrote:
nobody ???
OK I'll give it a try. I have a vinum RAID 1 running though, but the 
way to get it tunning isn't very different.

matt virus wrote:
Hi all!
I have (8) maxtor 160gb drives I plan on constructing a vinum raid5 
array with.
the devices are:
ad4ad11
All drives have been fdisk'd and such,
ad4s1d.ad11s1d
The first step of setting up vinum is changing the disklabel
disklabel -e /dev/ad4
The disk label says it has 8 partitions, but only the A and C 
partitions are shown...
**MY DISKLABEL
# /dev/ad4:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a: 320173040   16unused0  0
  c: 3201730560unused0  0 # raw part, don't edit
**

c: is not a valid disk label. You need to create one first. See the 
example below first: there's an e label.
You can do this in sysinstall: Configure / Label / ad4 and then C to 
create one.
Once that's done it'll show up in disklabel as you write below.
Then in disklabel you can change the 4.2BSD to vinum.

Of course you can also add the whole label-line in disklabel itself but 
I find sysinstall easier.

Arno
Now, i know i have to change *something* to   vinum  but i'm unsure 
which one, or if I need to actually add a line or ???
This is my first time playing with vinum, i've read a handful of 
howtos and all the documentation I find shows the disklabel looking 
like this:
*HOWTO's Disklabel
# disklabel da0
[snip]
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:  1024000  10240004.2BSD 2048 1638490
  b:  10240000  swap
  c: 179124120unused0 0
  e: 15864412  2048000 vinum

(source: http://org.netbase.org/vinum-mirrored.html)
Any direction is appreciated :-)
-matt
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Re: ACX100 Firmware Licensing

2004-10-31 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Sunday, 31. October 2004 09:51, Jay Moore wrote:

 2) Wouldn't voting with your pocketbook be more persuasive than whining? I
 recently bought two WiFI cards that use the Prism chipset
 (seattlewireless.net) 'cause they've got better support in the systems I
 use. This purchase represents a loss for TI  the mfrs who buy their ACX100
 chips, and a gain for Intersil and their customers. The free market is
 pretty effective at sorting these things out.

It's obviously not, because (as a !Windows user) your pocketbook isn't even 
registered for voting.

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compiling openoffice 1.1.3 error

2004-10-31 Thread FreeBsdBeni
Hi,

I'm trying to install openoffice 1.1.3 from the ports, but keep getting the 
following error message :

checking for X11/extensions/XIElib.h... no
configure: error: Could not compile basic X program.
===  Script configure failed unexpectedly.
Please direct the output of the failure of the make command to a file, and
then feed that file to the gnomelogalyzer, available from
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/gnomelogalyzer.sh, which will diagnose the 
problem
and suggest a solution.  If - and only if - the gnomelogalyzer cannot solve
the problem, report the problem to the FreeBSD GNOME team at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
and attach
/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1/work/mozilla/work/mozilla/config.log and
the output of the failure of the make command.  Also, it might be a good idea
to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls
/var/db/pkg`).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1/work/mozilla.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1.

I'm running 5.3-REL (upgraded/cvsup'ed from 5.2.1) and using Xorg. And here 
also the config.log from the mozilla/work dir. 

What file(s)/program(s) am I missing here ?
Thanks for the help !

Beni.


/usr/ports/editors/openoffice-1.1/work/mozilla/work/mozilla/config.log :
This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.

configure:833: checking host system type
configure:854: checking target system type
configure:872: checking build system type
configure:1980: checking for gcc
configure:2093: checking whether the C compiler (gcc32 -O -pipe  ) works
configure:2109: gcc32 -o conftest -O -pipeconftest.c  15
configure:2135: checking whether the C compiler (gcc32 -O -pipe  ) is a 
cross-compiler
configure:2140: checking whether we are using GNU C
configure:2149: gcc32 -E conftest.c
configure:2168: checking whether gcc32 accepts -g
configure:2204: checking for c++
configure:2236: checking whether the C++ compiler (g++32 -O -pipe ) works
configure:2252: g++32 -o conftest -O -pipe   conftest.C  15
configure:2278: checking whether the C++ compiler (g++32 -O -pipe ) is a 
cross-compiler
configure:2283: checking whether we are using GNU C++
configure:2292: g++32 -E conftest.C
configure:2311: checking whether g++32 accepts -g
configure:2360: gcc32 -c -O -pipe   conftest.c 15
configure:2377: gcc32 -c -O -pipe   conftest.c 15
configure:2396: checking for ranlib
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configure:2654: checking whether gcc32 and cc understand -c and -o together
configure:2669: gcc32 -c conftest.c -o conftest.o 15
configure:2670: gcc32 -c conftest.c -o conftest.o 15
configure:2675: cc -c conftest.c 15
configure:2677: cc -c conftest.c -o conftest.o 15
configure:2678: cc -c conftest.c -o conftest.o 15
configure:2739: checking how to run the C preprocessor
configure:2760: gcc32 -E  conftest.c /dev/null 2conftest.out
configure:2819: checking how to run the C++ preprocessor
configure:2837: g++32 -E  conftest.C /dev/null 2conftest.out
configure:2873: checking for a BSD compatible install
configure:2926: checking whether ln -s works
configure:2951: checking for gawk
configure:2951: checking for mawk
configure:2951: checking for nawk
configure:2985: checking for xemacs
configure:2985: checking for lemacs
configure:2985: checking for emacs
configure:3026: checking for perl5
configure:3066: checking for minimum required perl version = 5.004
configure:3076: checking for full perl installation
configure:3089: checking for whoami
configure:3125: checking for autoconf
configure:3161: checking for unzip
configure:3199: checking for zip
configure:3240: checking for makedepend
configure:3275: checking for xargs
configure:3316: checking for gmake
configure:3372: checking whether /usr/local/bin/gmake sets ${MAKE}
configure:3404: checking for X
configure:3718: checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet
configure:3737: gcc32 -o conftest -O -pipeconftest.c -ldnet   15
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldnet
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 3726 configure
#include confdefs.h
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2
builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply.  */
char dnet_ntoa();

int main() {
dnet_ntoa()
; return 0; }
configure:3759: checking for dnet_ntoa in -ldnet_stub
configure:3778: gcc32 -o conftest -O -pipeconftest.c -ldnet_stub   15
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldnet_stub
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#line 3767 configure
#include confdefs.h
/* Override any gcc2 internal prototype to avoid an error.  */
/* We use char because int might match the return type of a gcc2
builtin and then its argument prototype would still apply.  */
char dnet_ntoa();

int 

MySQL not responding

2004-10-31 Thread steveb99
I have a FreeBSD 5.2.1 server with Apache 2, mod_php4, and MySQL4.
Individually all the pieces work.  Apache up and serving pages,  PHP
pages work, and MySQL is working and I restored my databases from a
Linux project.  I also moved all my working code from an old Linux
project. I also checked the accounts on MySQL and passwords so they
would work with the old code.

Problem:
Any page that calls MySQL stops at the MySQL call and sits there
forever. I threw in some debug code to confirm it is executing right
up to the call to MySQL.  What have I missed in setting this
environment up.  Is there something I need to do to Apache to call
MySQL.  Do I need to install MySQL client, I only install the server.

Can someone point me to some doc or advice on what to check next.

Thanks,
Steve B.

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Re: VPN questions

2004-10-31 Thread Martin Schweizer
Hello Chris

PPTP works also behind NAT and key is 128 bit long. In most parts 12b bit are 
enough. PPTP is also a vpn solutions.

Am Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 12:28:10PM -0400 Chris Shenton schrieb:
 Aaron P. Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  I suggest looking at openvpn, it is a ssl based vpn that is fairly easy
  to set up.  I might shy away from freeswan as it is for the most part
  out of development, only one more rollup and that's it.
 
 Any suggestions for something compatible with Cisco's 3080 VPN
 product? Something that will work from behind my home NAT box,
 ideally?

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Re: Oracle 8i on FreeBSD 5.1

2004-10-31 Thread Michael L. Squires
Search the freebsd-messages mailing list, I think there is a web site 
which discusses Oracle installations later than 7.x.

The other method I've seen discussed is to set up a LINUX box and install 
on that onto an NFS mounted directory (which has the same directory path
on both the FreeBSD and LINUX boxes.

Installation of 9i and 10g are covered for various LINUX distributions on
the site www.puschitz.org; the RH ES3 instructions work fine for at least 
one RH ES3 clone, WhiteBox LINUX.  All the instructions I've seen call for 
installing different versions of various things, such the the libraries; 
apparently Oracle looks for very specific versions during the install.

I've never tried the installation under FreeBSD, postgreSQL is more than
sufficient for me needs (since I don't need to run any Oracle-based
clients).
I have seen a note that all 8i versions are now de-supported by Oracle; I 
can also personally attest that the 9i client does not work reliably with
10g in a grid environment.

Mike Squires
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Re: mysql and system/nice cpu usage

2004-10-31 Thread Omer Faruk Sen
Everything that is stated in tuning man page was done. What is interesting 
that this site was running more than 8 months without problem. But a few 
weeks ago system was started to behave like that. 

By the way isn't it interesting that mysql creates load on system and nice? 
I think mysql should create load on user. That is why I have send this 
problem to FreeBSD mailing list. I am using FreeBSD for more that 4 years 
but never come across with a problem like that. I am thinking to use Zend 
Optimizer. Maybe that helps me .. 

If that doesn't help I was thinking to run sql on a seperate machine. 

Chuck Swiger writes: 

Omer Faruk Sen wrote:
I have web server which uses php+mysql. As far as I have searched the 
best thing to use mysql on FreeBSD is to use linuxthreads. [ ... ]
240 processes: 7 running, 233 sleeping
CPU states: 10.9% user, 73.9% nice, 12.5% system,  2.7% interrupt,  0.0% 
idle
Mem: 244M Active, 1309M Inact, 309M Wired, 93M Cache, 199M Buf, 56M Free
Swap: 3072M Total, 24K Used, 3072M Free
Well, you've managed to saturate the available CPU power with the 
workload. If you've already done some performance tuning at the FreeBSD 
level by adjusting your kernel config and followed man tuning, you 
aren't likely to get much further by tweaking FreeBSD's config. 

Look into optimizing your database utilization by checking the SQL query 
histogram, particularly if your site ends up doing transaction(s) for each 
HTTP hit.  People write books on database management and tuning, and you 
should look there rather than to a FreeBSD list for advice.  :-) 

You could also get another machine and run the database and webserver on 
seperate systems to help site performance by dividing and concentrating 
the workload.  Consider switching from MySQL to postgres or a database you 
actually pay for: Oracle, Sybase, Frontbase, etc. 

You could also consider another web middleware/scripting evironment than 
PHP which handles database interactions more efficiently: Zope, JSP, 
WebObjects. 

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Determining original FBSD version

2004-10-31 Thread Gerard Samuel
I plan on making the move to 5.3 on boxes running 4.10
via a fresh install.
The thought came to me as to what was the original version of
FreeBSD did I install on those boxes.
Usually I upgrade the boxes via build/install world.
If there is way to find out, that it would be interesting to know.
If not, no big deal, as its an absent minded thought...
Thanks
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Re: MySQL not responding

2004-10-31 Thread David Jenkins
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 07:51:41 -0800, steveb99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a FreeBSD 5.2.1 server with Apache 2, mod_php4, and MySQL4.
 Individually all the pieces work.  Apache up and serving pages,  PHP
 pages work, and MySQL is working and I restored my databases from a
 Linux project.  I also moved all my working code from an old Linux
 project. I also checked the accounts on MySQL and passwords so they
 would work with the old code.
 
 Problem:
 Any page that calls MySQL stops at the MySQL call and sits there
 forever. I threw in some debug code to confirm it is executing right
 up to the call to MySQL.  What have I missed in setting this
 environment up.  Is there something I need to do to Apache to call
 MySQL.  Do I need to install MySQL client, I only install the server.

Hi Steve,

Have you checked the Apache and MySQLd log files?
Have you also turned on full error reporting in php.ini/checked your php.ini?

Hope this helps,
David
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Re: Determining original FBSD version

2004-10-31 Thread jason
Gerard Samuel wrote:
I plan on making the move to 5.3 on boxes running 4.10
via a fresh install.
The thought came to me as to what was the original version of
FreeBSD did I install on those boxes.
Usually I upgrade the boxes via build/install world.
If there is way to find out, that it would be interesting to know.
If not, no big deal, as its an absent minded thought...
Thanks
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I think all you can do is know what version you have now(uname -a).  
Other thatn that search for the oldest file on your computer.
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Re: Soekris engineering routers

2004-10-31 Thread Chris Howells
On Sunday 31 October 2004 01:45, LiQuiD wrote:
 I've noticed a few people mention this company, http://www.soekris.com
 in the list now.  Their website claims they can be used with a compact
 flash card.  I'm curious regarding their usage with a flash card as a
 hard drive.  Has anyone successfully been able to install FreeBSD on one
 of those boxes using a compact flash card?

My current firewall is FreeBSD 5.3-beta7 running on a Celeron 700 with a pair 
of xl NICs running from a 128MB Compact Flash card via an IDE-CF convertor. 
I basically installed FreeBSD on a spare parition on my desktop, recompiled 
the kernel to remove stuff that I didn't need and copies directories 
like /usr, /bin etc over (very unscientific but I was in a rush and didn't 
have time to write a nice script to automate it yet).

The CF card is mounted read only. rc.conf looks like this:

hostname=gimli.middleearth
ifconfig_xl0=DHCP
ifconfig_xl1=inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xff00
sshd_enable=YES
varmfs=YES
tmpmfs=YES
populate_var=YES
pf_enable=YES

(unfortunately the stuff in the handbook regarding read only file systems is 
obsoleted by rcNG)

and fstab

# DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options DumpPass#
/dev/ad0s1a /   ufs ro  0   0


You could very very easily fit it onto a 64MB CF card or maybe even 32 if you 
leave out some of the kernel modules, it just takes a bit more thought and 
time.

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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-31 Thread Bill Schoolcraft
At Sun, 31 Oct 2004 it looks like Emanuel Strobl composed:

 Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 00:20 schrieb Paul Hoffman:
  Greetings again. I'm looking to buy a couple of cheap old laptops to
  be used as temporary routers. They just need to be able to handle
  PCMCIA Ethernet cards, not much more (having an Ethernet connector on
  the motherboard is fine, of course.) I don't want to run XWindows,
  and I'm sure 64 MB and a 1gig hard drive would suffice.
 
  Are there any brands/models I should lean towards? Ones I should avoid?

 Bad idea IMHO. I'd suggest having a look at http://www.soekris.com/ (net4501
 for easiest requirements, better 4801, all in one extendable box) or if you
 need just basic 586cpu-power without extendability and only (well designed)
 ethernet ports see: http://www.pcengines.ch/wrap.htm
 You can use any type of PC as terminal to operate these boxes vi the serial
 interface. Perhaps you already have any old vt100 terminal handy.

 But I don''t have an answer to your original question, sorry. Although I'd
 like to mention that old laptops often can't handle modern PC-CARDSs
 (CARDBUS), PCMCIA was 5v and 16 bit wide, very slow and really not sutable
 for routing purposes!

I used to have a spare 486/dx4-100 laptop that I would use ONLY
when I had to take my main machine off the grid here at home.

It had the exact same ipaddr/settings as the main router/NAT
machine did and it worked well.  It was an old Toshiba that didn't
even have a CDROM.  It was that old.  The thing about it was that
it was brand new !!  Nobody wanted to use it at my friends work so
the IT guy just gave it to me.  So I refer to it as my
brand-new-low-mileage-1962-Ford-Falcon-laptop

I would of course never have it on the net at the same time but
kept the CAT5 cables just barely unsnapped at their points of
entry to the network (DSL router and switch) so it would only take
the time to boot it and snap in the CAT5's to be routing again.

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Re: Compatible NIC

2004-10-31 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/31/04 5:00:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 No one is forcing you to read anything. I never copy you on
 anythere,

I'm not sure what anythere means, but by sending messages to the
mailing list, you're copying Kris and everybody else who is on the
list.
You don't actually  read every message on every list you are on, do you? 
If you do then you really need a hobby. I scan the subjects and read the 
2 or 3 out of 50 that sound interesting. I suggest you do the same.


A member of the Gustapo said:
Kris was just asking you to respect the charter
of the mailing list.  I've looked at about 15 messages from you, most
of them insulting, some voicing opinions that run contrary to fact,
and suggesting that you have a good overall understanding of the
project.  Given that you don't know who Kris is, it's difficult to
believe the last point.

---
So the charter of the mailing list is that only good and positive things can
be said about FreeBSD, and no one is allowed to make distinctions between
good and bad code and/or drivers? Is the soviet union back or what?

The charter of this list is for people who want answers about FreeBSD to be
able to get them. I felt it necessary to join when I noticed that EVERYONE
on the list cheerfully steers poor suckers into using 5.x, even though it 
appears, after having to beat it out of them, everyone pretty much admits
that 5.x isn't better than 4.x at the moment, and that even 5.3 is going to
be a lower performer. To me, spinning the tale of 5.x to those in search
of real answers is violating the charter, unless the charter has changed
to shamelessly steering everyone to use 5.x for internal, political 
purposes.

I know who Kris is. I respect and appreciate his contributions. I don't 
respect 
being lied to. And I don't respect the unconditional rejection of criticism 
by the
team. And I haven't seen any evidence that anyone really has a clue as to
how to measure the performance of the product they're developing. I was 
ridiculed for tearing apart the only test results posted, yet no credible 
ones
were offered. I was asked for an explanation as to why I question
drivers written by a certain developer, and I provided the info. Instead of
credible counterpoint, I was told that I was wasting people's time. How 
am I wasting someone's time when I'm telling them not to use drivers that 
very likely have flaws? How are you helping someone by cheerfully 
recommending things known to be poorly done? To not hurt the 
developer's feelings? Is this forum about helping users or about
coddling developers? Optimizing a driver is as important as making
it bug free. If they do a half-assed job then criticism is warranted. 

 Its easy to dismiss people who ask hard questions as trolls. Its
a lot more difficult to answer the questions credibly. 
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5.3-RC1 - Hangs on high net load(?)

2004-10-31 Thread Joshua Beard
After upgrading from 5.2.1 to 5.3-RC1 (including a recompile of all
ports), I noticed my system locking up when there was a high network
load.  A common way to reproduce this is to run a BiTTorrent client and,
say, copy a file to another local machine over NFS.  The computer does
not respond to pings or any key presses.  I'm using the lnc(4) driver
for an AMD PCnet PCI ethernet card (exact model escapes me)
[Am79C970/1/2/3/5/6 PCnet LANCE PCI Ethernet Controller].  (I'm aware of
the pcn(4) driver, but cannot get it to recognize the card).  I can
reproduce this with both the 4BSD and ULE schedulers, if that matters.

All relevant sysctl variables are defaults. Is this a known issue?
Any ideas?  Thanks.

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A question about X

2004-10-31 Thread baguio_sun
Hi!
I have Freebsd 5.1 installed (never cvsup'ed). Yesterday my box was 
running all the day(without rebooting), and during that time i've 
installed many of ports(Krusader, Psi, mplayer, and so on). Everything 
was fine, but when I booted freebsd today, typed startx, (I'm using 
GNOME), I found, that there was only icons of menus, programs, but no 
names or inscription. After discovering this problem() I decided to 
reinstall X-server with all dependences. So my question is: HOW CAN I DO 
THIS? (what steps should I make to deinstall/install? Can I use the 
ports tree?)
Or, if you can, you can give me a better way to fix this?
Great thanks for your  time  and attention. 

#XFree86 -version
XFree86 Version 4.3.0
Release Date: 27 February 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.1 i386 [ELF]
Build Date: 24 May 2003
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Re: mysql and system/nice cpu usage

2004-10-31 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/31/04 11:03:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but never come across with a problem like that. I am thinking to use Zend 
Optimizer. Maybe that helps me .. 

If that doesn't help I was thinking to run sql on a seperate machine. 

You might try tuning kern.vm.kmem.size if thats not in the tuning suggestions.
The OS tends to allocate way more memory than needed for the kernel if 
you have a lot of memory in the system; you probably don't need more than
100M or so unless you're running bgp or something unusual. Once you start 
swapping with mysql and php you're dead.

Moving to another system can help, but be aware that if your network is
busy it can add some different inefficiencies. If you do go to a separate
system connect it with a dedicated NIC if possible, to alleviate network
backup. If you have a multiple bus machine, moving your NIC to a separate
bus from the HDD can significantly increase performance. When you have
the NIC and HDD on the same bus, heavy network traffic can cause disk
operations to back up and substantially slow database applications. Make
sure the busses are really separate (and not cascaded), otherwise it won't
help.

Also if you're on a 32bit bus machine you'll have a lot more contention than
with a pci-x bus. Most people think that if you have enough bus then it 
doesnt matter, but thats dead wrong. Bus contention between devices is 
a major performance factor.
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Re: 5.3-RC1 - Hangs on high net load(?)

2004-10-31 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/31/04 11:56:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
After upgrading from 5.2.1 to 5.3-RC1 (including a recompile of all
ports), I noticed my system locking up when there was a high network
load.  A common way to reproduce this is to run a BiTTorrent client and,
say, copy a file to another local machine over NFS.  The computer does
not respond to pings or any key presses.  I'm using the lnc(4) driver
for an AMD PCnet PCI ethernet card (exact model escapes me)
[Am79C970/1/2/3/5/6 PCnet LANCE PCI Ethernet Controller].  (I'm aware of
the pcn(4) driver, but cannot get it to recognize the card).  I can
reproduce this with both the 4BSD and ULE schedulers, if that matters.

All relevant sysctl variables are defaults. Is this a known issue?
Any ideas?  Thanks.

Are you certain that its not NFS that's locking up? Certainly the use
of NFS muddies the issue, as it doesnt like losing packets and isn't 
very eloquent in its handling of adversity.
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A simple question

2004-10-31 Thread baguio_sun
Hi!
Can anyone tell me the size of folder '/usr/src' when the cvsup is 
complete?
I ran cvsup 8 hours ago and it's still running ... my network is very 
slow... :(
Thanks in advance!

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Re: ACX100 Firmware Licensing

2004-10-31 Thread Jay Moore
On Sunday 31 October 2004 07:41 am, Michael Nottebrock wrote:

  2) Wouldn't voting with your pocketbook be more persuasive than whining?
  I recently bought two WiFI cards that use the Prism chipset
  (seattlewireless.net) 'cause they've got better support in the systems I
  use. This purchase represents a loss for TI  the mfrs who buy their
  ACX100 chips, and a gain for Intersil and their customers. The free
  market is pretty effective at sorting these things out.

 It's obviously not, because (as a !Windows user) your pocketbook isn't even
 registered for voting.

Oh yes it is... my vote may go for Ralph Nader, but it's still a vote! 

And I think you may under-estimate just how many people and organizations are 
using open source and/or free software. 

Respectfully,
Jay
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DVD burners

2004-10-31 Thread R. W.
I'm thinking of buying an IDE DVD burner, ideally one of the new 
double-layer type.

Are these generic products? If not, what should I choose or avoid?

My computer is a 700 MHz  P3 coppermine with 512 Mbytes  of PC100 ram, 
is it going to be fast enough?

TIA  
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Re: mysql and system/nice cpu usage

2004-10-31 Thread Omer Faruk Sen
Hi 

The oid you are talking about is not valid in FreeBSD-4. Maybe you are 
talking about FreeBSD-5 sysctl oids? But it does worth to try but I am not 
sure which oid it is in FreeBSD 4.. 

REGARDS 

PS: I have found vm.kvm_size. I think it is the one that corresponds in your 
email? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

In a message dated 10/31/04 11:03:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but never come across with a problem like that. I am thinking to use Zend 
Optimizer. Maybe that helps me ..  

If that doesn't help I was thinking to run sql on a seperate machine. 
You might try tuning kern.vm.kmem.size if thats not in the tuning suggestions.
The OS tends to allocate way more memory than needed for the kernel if 
you have a lot of memory in the system; you probably don't need more than
100M or so unless you're running bgp or something unusual. Once you start 
swapping with mysql and php you're dead. 

Moving to another system can help, but be aware that if your network is
busy it can add some different inefficiencies. If you do go to a separate
system connect it with a dedicated NIC if possible, to alleviate network
backup. If you have a multiple bus machine, moving your NIC to a separate
bus from the HDD can significantly increase performance. When you have
the NIC and HDD on the same bus, heavy network traffic can cause disk
operations to back up and substantially slow database applications. Make
sure the busses are really separate (and not cascaded), otherwise it won't
help. 

Also if you're on a 32bit bus machine you'll have a lot more contention than
with a pci-x bus. Most people think that if you have enough bus then it 
doesnt matter, but thats dead wrong. Bus contention between devices is 
a major performance factor.

---
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Software Development Team @ Turkey
http://www.Faruk.NET
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Re: ACX100 Firmware Licensing

2004-10-31 Thread Michael Nottebrock
On Sunday, 31. October 2004 18:21, Jay Moore wrote:

 And I think you may under-estimate just how many people and organizations
 are using open source and/or free software.

No, it doesn't work that way. You as a *BSD/Linux user were never meant to 
purchase a $40 wireless NIC with a TI chipset that says software 
requirements: Windows 98/ME/2000/XP on the box or a $1399 OEM notebook with 
a builtin TI chipset that comes with Windows XP Home Edition.

If you do, it's your problem, and if you don't, your purchase won't be missed 
by anyone.

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Re: mysql and system/nice cpu usage

2004-10-31 Thread Omer Faruk Sen
By the way here is my vmstat -m output: 

Memory statistics by bucket size
Size   In Use   Free   Requests  HighWater  Couldfree
16 105747917787211280  0
32  653   16512086878 640 19
64   130358  18122   19867705 320  27489
128 3120   2032   18073586 160  47472
256   127456   14725097033  80254
512  275245  32349  40 68
1K  1393533956273  20 522307
2K   27319   9225  10   6887
4K   24  1   3179   5  0
8K9  0 20   5  0
16K   10  0   3321   5  0
64K1  0  1   5  0
128K3  0 11   5  0
256K1  0  1   5  0
512K6  0  6   5  0 

Memory usage type by bucket size
Size  Type(s)
16  uc_devlist, nexusdev, devbuf, UFS dirhash, p1003.1b, dummynet,
	  routetbl, ether_multi, vnodes, mount, pcb, soname, atexit, accf,
	  proc-args, kld, rman, bus, sysctloid, sysctl, temp
32  atkbddev, devbuf, UFS dirhash, dirrem, mkdir, diradd, freefile,
	  freefrag, indirdep, bmsafemap, newblk, tseg_qent, in_multi, routetbl,
	  ether_multi, ifaddr, BPF, vnodes, cluster_save buffer, pcb, accf,
	  proc-args, sigio, file desc to leader, kld, taskqueue, SWAP,
	  eventhandler, bus, sysctloid, sysctl, uidinfo, subproc, pgrp, temp
64  devbuf, lockf, isadev, UFS dirhash, allocindir, allocdirect, pagedep,
	  routetbl, ether_multi, ifaddr, vnodes, vfscache, pcb, proc-args,
	  file, rman, eventhandler, bus, sysctloid, subproc, session, temp
128  devbuf, ZONE, UFS dirhash, freeblks, inodedep, dummynet, routetbl,
	  vnodes, mount, vfscache, soname, ttys, zombie, proc-args, dev_t,
	  timecounter, kld, bus, cred, temp
256  devbuf, UFS dirhash, FFS node, newblk, IpFw/IpAcct, dummynet,
	  routetbl, ifaddr, vnodes, vfscache, ttys, proc-args, kqueue,
	  file desc, bus, subproc, temp
512  devbuf, UFS dirhash, UFS mount, dummynet, mount, BIO buffer, ptys,
	  file desc, msg, ioctlops, bus, temp
1K  uc_devlist, devbuf, dummynet, kqueue, file desc, sem, ioctlops, bus,
	  uidinfo, temp
2K  devbuf, UFS mount, ifaddr, BIO buffer, pcb, file desc, bus, temp
4K  memdesc, devbuf, UFS mount, sem, msg, bus, subproc, proc, temp
8K  UFS mount, syncache, dummynet, bus, temp
16K  devbuf, indirdep, shm, msg, bus
64K  pagedep
128K  mbuf, VM pgdata, temp
256K  MSDOSFS mount
512K  UFS ihash, inodedep, vfscache, ISOFS mount, SWAP, temp 

Memory statistics by type  Type  Kern
  Type  InUse MemUse HighUse  Limit Requests Limit Limit Size(s)
   atkbddev 2 1K  1K102400K20 0  32
 uc_devlist16 2K  2K102400K   160 0  16,1K
   nexusdev 3 1K  1K102400K30 0  16
memdesc 1 4K  4K102400K10 0  4K
   mbuf 188K 88K102400K10 0  128K
 devbuf   769   344K504K102400K 28520 0  
16,32,64,128,256,512,1K,2K,4K,16K
  lockf54 4K 11K102400K  10079150 0  64
 isadev12 1K  1K102400K   120 0  64
   ZONE14 2K  2K102400K   140 0  128
  VM pgdata 1   128K128K102400K10 0  128K
UFS dirhash   657   131K257K102400K 26100 0  
16,32,64,128,256,512
  UFS mount1847K 47K102400K   180 0  512,2K,4K,8K
  UFS ihash 1   512K512K102400K10 0  512K
   FFS node121493 30374K  30374K102400K  43359640 0  256
 dirrem 3 1K  2K102400K   2784480 0  32
  mkdir 0 0K  1K102400K80 0  32
 diradd 2 1K  2K102400K   2802390 0  32
   freefile 1 1K  1K102400K   2603850 0  32
   freeblks 3 1K 37K102400K   2025220 0  128
   freefrag 2 1K  3K102400K630400 0  32
 allocindir 5 1K   1381K102400K   1765910 0  64
   indirdep 1 1K 49K102400K 47790 0  32,16K
allocdirect 3 1K 36K102400K   3436450 0  64
  bmsafemap 4 1K  1K102400K148770 0  32
 newblk 1 1K  1K102400K   5202370 0  32,256
   inodedep 9   513K551K102400K   2662680 0  128,512K
pagedep 465K 65K102400K 90890 0  64,64K
   p1003.1b 1 1K  1K102400K10 0  16
   syncache 1 8K  8K102400K10 0  8K
  tseg_qent 1 1K  2K102400K 45670 0  32
IpFw/IpAcct 7 2K  2K102400K70 0  256
   dummynet  1050   141K163K102400K 124157120 0  
16,128,256,512,1K,8K
   in_multi 3 1K  1K102400K30 0  32
   routetbl   29241K501K102400K   2228470 0  
16,32,64,128,256
ether_multi

Re: ACX100 Firmware Licensing

2004-10-31 Thread Jay Moore
On Sunday 31 October 2004 11:36 am, Michael Nottebrock wrote:

  And I think you may under-estimate just how many people and organizations
  are using open source and/or free software.

 No, it doesn't work that way. You as a *BSD/Linux user were never meant to
 purchase a $40 wireless NIC with a TI chipset that says software
 requirements: Windows 98/ME/2000/XP on the box or a $1399 OEM notebook
 with a builtin TI chipset that comes with Windows XP Home Edition.

 If you do, it's your problem, and if you don't, your purchase won't be
 missed by anyone.

Well join the whiners then, Michael.

 
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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-31 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Emanuel Strobl --
 Why going outside and searching the internet?
 You have a complete operating system, and it's one of the best
 documented out there. Just 'man ata', 'man atacontrol' and 'man
 gmirror'. Remember that FreeBSD isn't just a hacked kernel with lots of
 stuff arround without any sense, it's standardized an documented! ;)

Ok, I looked at man gmirror, but found nothing for my 5.2.1 system. As 
you mentioned, gmirror is for 5.3 only.

I missed man atacontrol, sorry for this. Now I've looked at its man page, 
looks good. Only one problem: man page says that I can only rebuild an 
RAID1 array on RAID capable ATA controllers. But I have no such real ATA 
controller. How can I replace a faulty disk with atacontrol on a normal 
ATA controller then?

Thanks for your help, Emanuel!
Greetings, Matthias

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Re: A simple question

2004-10-31 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 11:20:08PM +0600, baguio_sun wrote:
 Hi!
 Can anyone tell me the size of folder '/usr/src' when the cvsup is 
 complete?

About 350 MB. 


 I ran cvsup 8 hours ago and it's still running ... my network is very 
 slow... :(

If you have a slow network connection, then it can indeed take a lot of
time for the initial run of cvsup.  Future runs will be faster, since
only the changes will be fetched but the first run has to fetch
everything.


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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-31 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 19:01 schrieb Matthias F. Brandstetter:
 -- quoting Emanuel Strobl --

  Why going outside and searching the internet?
  You have a complete operating system, and it's one of the best
  documented out there. Just 'man ata', 'man atacontrol' and 'man
  gmirror'. Remember that FreeBSD isn't just a hacked kernel with lots of
  stuff arround without any sense, it's standardized an documented! ;)

 Ok, I looked at man gmirror, but found nothing for my 5.2.1 system. As
 you mentioned, gmirror is for 5.3 only.

 I missed man atacontrol, sorry for this. Now I've looked at its man page,
 looks good. Only one problem: man page says that I can only rebuild an
 RAID1 array on RAID capable ATA controllers. But I have no such real ATA
 controller. How can I replace a faulty disk with atacontrol on a normal
 ATA controller then?

You can use 'atacontrol detach' then powerdown, replace the drive and after 
booting you can 'atacontrol addspar ar0 ad6' (or what ever drive and array 
failed) and 'atacontrol rebuild ar0'.
I've done some simulation of this but never had a real failed drive, also I 
never checked data integry by md5 sums or something like that.
One important thing:
If you simulate the failure by 'atacontrol detach' make sure to wipe out the 
first and last sectors of the failed disk, because otherwise ata would 
detect two raid arrays when booting next time and if you failed the first 
drive you get messed up!

-Mano


 Thanks for your help, Emanuel!
 Greetings, Matthias


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how to convert a non-RAID system to gmirror?

2004-10-31 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
Hi all,

I have two disk ad0 and ad2. FreeBSD 5.3 is installed on ad0, I can boot 
from it. Now I want to create a software RAID via gmirror with ad2.

My question is: how can I create the array with the spare disk so that I 
can reboot from it without loosing any data or reinstall the whole system?

Hope you can help me on this...
Greetings and TIA, Matthias

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Re[2]: A simple question

2004-10-31 Thread DanGer
Hello baguio_sun,

Sunday, October 31, 2004, 7:23:06 PM, you wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 11:20:08PM +0600, baguio_sun wrote:
 Hi!
 Can anyone tell me the size of folder '/usr/src' when the cvsup is 
 complete?

 About 350 MB. 


 I ran cvsup 8 hours ago and it's still running ... my network is very
 slow... :(

you could get you source from installation CD and then run cvsup. then
it should download only changed files...

 If you have a slow network connection, then it can indeed take a lot of
 time for the initial run of cvsup.  Future runs will be faster, since
 only the changes will be fetched but the first run has to fetch
 everything.

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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-31 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Emanuel Strobl --
 You can use 'atacontrol detach' then powerdown, replace the drive and
 after booting you can 'atacontrol addspar ar0 ad6' (or what ever drive
 and array failed) and 'atacontrol rebuild ar0'.

Problem is, that man page says atacontrol rebuild is only valid on RAID 
capable ATA controllers. But since I have no such controller, I can't use 
this command.

How can I rebuild the array on a normal ATA controller?
Greetings, Matthias

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Admin-visible differences between 4.10 and 5.3

2004-10-31 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings again. At one point, I think I heard that there was going 
to be a big change in the bootup (rc.foo) stuff in FreeBSD 5, but I 
don't see anything about that in the Early Adopter Guide. Assuming 
that I'm quite comfortable with day-to-day system administration 
under FreeBSD 4 but want to start using 5 on new systems when 5.3 
comes out, what do I need to know?

--Paul Hoffman
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Re: Determining original FBSD version

2004-10-31 Thread Gerard Samuel
jason wrote:
Gerard Samuel wrote:
I plan on making the move to 5.3 on boxes running 4.10
via a fresh install.
The thought came to me as to what was the original version of
FreeBSD did I install on those boxes.
Usually I upgrade the boxes via build/install world.
If there is way to find out, that it would be interesting to know.
If not, no big deal, as its an absent minded thought...
Thanks
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I think all you can do is know what version you have now(uname -a).  
Other thatn that search for the oldest file on your computer. 
That gave me an idea.  I looked at the date of kernel.GENERIC, and a few 
other files
in /etc.  They have a date of April 21 2001.
All I have to do to find out the exact version, is to boot the GENERIC 
kernel.
I dont have a keyboard/monitor hooked up to it right now, but I'll check 
it out,
before I destroy it when I install 5.3.

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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-31 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Matthias F. Brandstetter --
 Problem is, that man page says atacontrol rebuild is only valid on
 RAID capable ATA controllers. But since I have no such controller, I
 can't use this command.

Ahh, would it be possible to dd data to the new disk?

And if yes: Is this the correct way create the array for the first time? I 
mean I have an existing installation on one disk. Now can I just dd data 
to the second disk, create mirror via atacontrol, edit fstab accordingly, 
and reboot into RAID without any other changes?

Greetings, Matthias

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5.3-STABLE slower than 5.3-beta3 (gnome)

2004-10-31 Thread Jorge Mario G.
Hi there
I just upgraded from beta3 to STABLE (NO -RELEASE
this time)

and gnome takes like 10 secs more to start
any particular reasson for that???
the scheudeler swtch maybe?

it's not a conf file I think I've checked everthing


PS: the boot time improved a lot



Jorge



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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-31 Thread Nikolas Britton
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On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 11:38:02PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 

Here is a better idea!
Step 1: Go dumpster diving for old computers (Pentium 1 or better, 8MB 
IDE Storage Device or better, and a minimun of 48MB/Ram).
Step 2: Grab some networks cards wail your in the dumpster.
Step 3: Install said network cards into computers.
Step 4: Install and configure m0n0wall on said computers. 
http://m0n0.ch/wall/
Step 5: Profit???
--
Total Cost: $0.00
   

Well, depending on your geographic location, you may want to
consider power consumption as the main cost factor here.
A Soekris box would consume something around 5-10 Watt or so
on average. Compare this to even the slowest Pentium. Oh, and
they are absolutely silent as well :-)
-cpghost.
 

The Soekris boxes are awesome, I'd LOVE to have one, But even with the 
power consumption, size, fanless arguments I still cannot justify the 
cost ($194 for a net4501-30 Board, Case, and PS) when I have old 
computers taking up space in my workshop. Money doesn't grow on trees in 
the world of small business.

If you are worry about power consumption or reliability when using old 
computers I have some general tips for you:
1. Don't use a storage device that has spinning disks, instead use a CF 
card, Zip Drive/Disk, etc. 
http://www.cfide.co.uk/compact_flash_ide_adapters.shtml
2. Remove all non-essential components from the system (CD-Roms, Hard 
drives, floppy drives, add-in cards, etc) and disable in the BIOS 
anything that can't be removed (floppy controller, sound card, printer 
and serial ports, secondary IDE controller, etc.).
3. Underclock and/or mount a big heatsink onto the CPU so you can remove 
the cpu fan.
4. One 64MB stick of ram uses less power then two 32MB sticks, follow 
that logic.
5. Remove some or all case fans because, Heat Isn't an issue unless your 
cpu is like 400Mhz+, you will still have the power supply fan for cooling.

CPU (at full load): 30 Watts
Mainboard: 10 Watts
RAM: 5 Watts
3 NIC: 15 Watts
1 Fan: 5 Watts
The Unkown: 10 Watts
---
Total: 75 Watt Light Bulb
It will take me 3.98 years just to recoup the cost of the net4501.

(g+a)/d/c = h = 34931 (3.98 years)

a/d/c = e,   be = f,   fd = g
a = net4501-30 Board, Case, and Power Supply = $194
b = power used by net4501 = 0.012kWh
c = power used by oldcomp = 0.075kWh
d = Price (residential) of 1kWh = $0.0859 
http://www.midamericanenergy.com/html/aboutus2.asp
e = Number of hours I can run the computer until I spend $194 (the price 
of the net4501) in power.
f = How many kWh the net4501 will uses in the same amount of time that 
it takes me the spend $194 in power using the computer.
g = The price of those kWh's the net4501 uses
h = How long (in hours) it will take to recoup the cost of buying the 
net4501 instead of just using an old computer.





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Re: A question about X

2004-10-31 Thread Subhro
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:09:36 +0600, baguio_sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 #XFree86 -version
 XFree86 Version 4.3.0
 Release Date: 27 February 2003
 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.6
 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 5.1 i386 [ELF]
 Build Date: 24 May 2003
 #

I would recommend you to upgrade to Xorg. Refer to the handbook for
details on uninstalling Xserver and installing Xorg

Regards
S.

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Re: DVD burners

2004-10-31 Thread Chuck Swiger
R. W. wrote:
I'm thinking of buying an IDE DVD burner, ideally one of the new 
double-layer type.

Are these generic products? If not, what should I choose or avoid?
Your mileage may vary.  Consider: 
http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/hcn.html

My computer is a 700 MHz  P3 coppermine with 512 Mbytes  of PC100 ram, 
is it going to be fast enough?
Sure.  Oh, it's possible you can run into problems with your ATA cabling or 
the controller, but if you've got decent hardware you should be fine.

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Re: DVD burners

2004-10-31 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:30:05 +
R. W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm thinking of buying an IDE DVD burner, ideally one of the new 
 double-layer type.
 
 Are these generic products? If not, what should I choose or avoid?

I have a Plextor PX-708 that is working perfectly on a 5.3-STABLE, but it's not
double-layer.

 My computer is a 700 MHz  P3 coppermine with 512 Mbytes  of PC100 ram, 
 is it going to be fast enough?

All you need is atapi_dma turned on.
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Re: Xorg86 -config error

2004-10-31 Thread Lloyd Hayes
Yes, it's a 6  year old Gateway Laptop.
I thought this informations was for new users of their port system.
Anyway, I found a solution. I installed v5.2.1 on it. I  still have a 
few errors that I am working out, but the Xserver starts fine. I'll 
start a new thread for them.

Lloyd Hayes
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Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
Lloyd Hayes wrote:
Sorry, I didn't finish the reply before sending the previous message.
Yes, I was logged in as root.
I was looking and could not find a configuration file, so I started 
reading the docs. They refer to setting the X- software during the 
installation, but that option was not presented to me. I can install 
v5.2.1 and it will be right there. But on v5.3, it isn't there.

The docs on the CD also referred to using : Xorg -configure
You've read the error that I got.
So, I headed for the Xorg website and downloaded some of their PDF 
help files.

These two pages are part of the same online document which you can
download in PDF format.
http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.8.0/doc/newport2.html
http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.8.0/doc/newport3.html
Xorg only has a 1280x1024 mode. My old laptop supports an 800x600x18 
screen. (As opposed to the 800x600x16 that I posted before.) Xorg 
supports 8 and 24 bit color.

Lloyd Hayes

OK, so what you meant to say is something like X.Org only supports 8 and
24-bit modes at 1280x1024 for the SGI newport cards.
Now, is that really the card you have? I'm rather dense, but I thought 
you
said you have a Gateway laptop, not an SGI workstation with a newport
video card in it ...

KDK

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External Hard drive

2004-10-31 Thread Lloyd Hayes
I took the 10 GB hard drive out of a 4 year old laptop, which had died, 
and put it into a generic hard drive box, which connects to my laptop by 
USB cable. It pulls it's power from the computer.

It sometimes worked with Windows 98SE. But it would not work with 
Windows 98SE if I also had my external CD ROM installed. (Installed! Not 
simply connected.) There was a conflict, and Win 98SE would only 
recognized the 1st of these two devices which were installed. It works 
fine with Win XP. So much for Windows.

I had FreeBSD installed earlier this year on this same laptop. Like 
Windows XP, I don't remember it having any problem with these devices.

I have been using this 6 year old laptop as a test bed for the different 
versions of Linux and FreeBSD. (The built-in CD ROM is almost worn out.) 
I just put v5.2.1 back on this laptop. It doesn't want to recognize this 
hard drive. I have checked the 'dmesg' and can't see any mention of this 
connection. I can connect and disconnect this drive while the system is 
running and not get any messages. I have ssh running and it is obviously 
doing something to the drive since I hear the drive clicking on/off. In 
fact, it sounds like a clock. (I am constantly getting messages from ssh.)

Any ideas here?
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xfmail install problem.

2004-10-31 Thread Lloyd Hayes
I replaced v5.3 with v5.2.1. I have a few problems and errors, that I'll 
setup as separate threads.

During the install process, xfmail was read, but would not install. It 
said to refer to the error log.
1st, I'm not familiar with the log and can't find information about it. 
(Or else I am looking in the wrong place.)

After the installation was complete, I went back and tried to do a post 
install. I got the same error.
I'm not sure how much I need it either.

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WiFi 802.11b or g setup

2004-10-31 Thread Lloyd Hayes
I have several wifi modems. I've read where the Linksys 802.11b seems 
the most compatable with UNIX type systems. I bought this one recently. 
I also have the US Robodics 802.11g, Netware 802.11b, and a generic 
wavelan 802.11b PCMCIA card. I have yet to get any of these to work 
under a UNIX type system. Obviously there is something here that I don't 
understand.

Anyone have some step-by-step instuctions for this idiot?
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Re: Admin-visible differences between 4.10 and 5.3

2004-10-31 Thread David Jenkins
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:49:07 -0700, Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings again. At one point, I think I heard that there was going
 to be a big change in the bootup (rc.foo) stuff in FreeBSD 5, but I
 don't see anything about that in the Early Adopter Guide. Assuming
 that I'm quite comfortable with day-to-day system administration
 under FreeBSD 4 but want to start using 5 on new systems when 5.3
 comes out, what do I need to know?

Maybe this helps.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-rcng.html

Cheers,
David
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Re: Admin-visible differences between 4.10 and 5.3

2004-10-31 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 8:02 PM + 10/31/04, David Jenkins wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:49:07 -0700, Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings again. At one point, I think I heard that there was going
 to be a big change in the bootup (rc.foo) stuff in FreeBSD 5, but I
 don't see anything about that in the Early Adopter Guide. Assuming
 that I'm quite comfortable with day-to-day system administration
 under FreeBSD 4 but want to start using 5 on new systems when 5.3
 comes out, what do I need to know?
Maybe this helps.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-rcng.html
Bingo, that is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Are there any other admin-visible changes in 5.3 I should be looking for?
--Paul Hoffman
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ipfw configuration to intercept SMTP traffic

2004-10-31 Thread Bill Eccles
Gentleones,

I have a commercial website/mail product running on a box. Unfortunately,
the product is not so smart and when it needs to bounce something, it
ignores the SMTP Always Relay Via setting and attempts to connect directly
to the mail exchanger for the domain it's bouncing to.

So what I figure I can do is redirect port 25 of me to any to port 25 of
the upstream server at aa.bb.cc.dd. That makes sense, right? So I'd probably
use:

ipfw add 8000 divert 25 all from me to aa.bb.cc.dd via en0

(8000 is OK because the only other rule in there right now is the default at
65535.)

Well, that's what I tried and it looks like the SMTP server is still trying
(and failing) to contact the servers directly. A telnet somehost.net 25
executed on this box fails, too, where it should get me the upstream relay
server.

So have I goofed the rule? (Yes.)

OK, then how have I goofed it?

Thanks,
Bill


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Re: sun box

2004-10-31 Thread Scott W
Hexren wrote:
KC Hi there
 
KC Two very simple questions, can I run FreeBSD on a Sun box and is it possible to run BSD on VMware
 
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I dunno about the SunBox but VMware is possible.
Currently I run FreeBSD 4.10 in a VMware Workstation Version 4.0.5.
The machine hosting the Virtual Machine is running Windows XP. Though
I must admit I wasn't able to bring a FreeBSD Version greater than
4.10 to work in the VM.(I only tried 5.2.1)
Hexren
I've had 5-CURRENT (around 5.1.X at the time) running without issues 
under VMWare.  There are one or two configuration gotchas which can be 
found on the VMWare support forum site or googledadding back in a 
'FreeBSD' token basically for the OS type...which is virtually the same 
as the existing Linux OS config...

Scott
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Re: Determining original FBSD version

2004-10-31 Thread Eihab E. Ibrahim
- Original Message - 
From: Gerard Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 7:20 PM
Subject: Determining original FBSD version


I plan on making the move to 5.3 on boxes running 4.10
via a fresh install.
The thought came to me as to what was the original version of
FreeBSD did I install on those boxes.
Usually I upgrade the boxes via build/install world.
If there is way to find out, that it would be interesting to know.
If not, no big deal, as its an absent minded thought...
Thanks
I believe you're looking for uname -a.
man uname for more info.
Eihab E. Ibrahim
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Re: Oracle 8i on FreeBSD 5.1

2004-10-31 Thread Jon Adams

Michael L. Squires wrote:
Search the freebsd-messages mailing list, I think there is a web site 
which discusses Oracle installations later than 7.x.

I am using a tutorial I found using this method, but this person's 
install didn't run into the ins_precomp.mk bug which requires the glibc 
stubs, so it is rather unclear how to proceed.  I really would like to 
proceed with the install this way, the error seems to be something that 
can be fixed by a -L/compat/linux/lib somewhere.  I just cannot figure 
out where. 

The other method I've seen discussed is to set up a LINUX box and 
install on that onto an NFS mounted directory (which has the same 
directory path
on both the FreeBSD and LINUX boxes.

I  also have heard this, and it will be my last course of action, but I 
am really hoping to avoid doing it this way

Installation of 9i and 10g are covered for various LINUX distributions on
the site www.puschitz.org; the RH ES3 instructions work fine for at 
least one RH ES3 clone, WhiteBox LINUX.  All the instructions I've 
seen call for installing different versions of various things, such 
the the libraries; apparently Oracle looks for very specific versions 
during the install.

I have installed on Linux before, thanks for the information, as far as 
9i or 10g, as I said previously, unfortunately,  I am locked into  8i, 
it is the only version that will meet my needs.  My hardware is not 
strong enough for 9i, and it will be a while before I can upgrade the 
box to something that will run 9i nicely.  When I installed on the 2.4 
Linux kernel in the past, it was, to say the least difficult (a 4 day 
process of googling and tinkering).  I am somewhat shocked that noone 
has run into this in the past, and further why Oracle refuses to support 
FreeBSD natively (at least with the newer releases).

I've never tried the installation under FreeBSD, postgreSQL is more than
sufficient for me needs (since I don't need to run any Oracle-based
clients).
Postgres is a very solid database, and I like it alot, but I pretty much 
need oracle's functionality as I will be replicating databases from 
another Oracle machine elsewhere.  I dont want to have to modify stored 
procedures and queries to handle differences in the RDBMS.

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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-31 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2004 19:42 schrieb Matthias F. Brandstetter:
 -- quoting Emanuel Strobl --

  You can use 'atacontrol detach' then powerdown, replace the drive and
  after booting you can 'atacontrol addspar ar0 ad6' (or what ever drive
  and array failed) and 'atacontrol rebuild ar0'.

 Problem is, that man page says atacontrol rebuild is only valid on RAID
 capable ATA controllers. But since I have no such controller, I can't use
 this command.

I don't know why this is in the man page, last time I read it (some years ago) 
it was not in there.
You can use the rebuild command also on non-raid controllers, at least it was 
possible for me when I did some tests about 3 months ago.
As I can see you're considering gmirror, perhaps that's the better solution 
for you. In all cases, simulate a drive failure, so you do know what to do 
when one drive really fails.

-Mano


 How can I rebuild the array on a normal ATA controller?
 Greetings, Matthias


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Re: sun box

2004-10-31 Thread Jon Adams
Scott W wrote:
Hexren wrote:
KC Hi there
KC Two very simple questions, can I run FreeBSD on a Sun box and is 
it possible to run BSD on VMware

http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/sparc.html there are a long list of 
supported hardware using the Sun Sparc chip, essentially everything 
except stuff running the newer Sparc III chips and the old Ultra 1's. 
There are a couple of others that you would need to use tftp to boot 
but its all on the webpage.

   * Blade 100
   * Blade 150
   * Enterprise 220R
   * Enterprise 250
   * Enterprise 420R
   * Enterprise 450
   * Fire V100
   * Fire V120
   * Netra T1 105
   * Netra T1 AC200/DC200
   * Netra t 1100
   * Netra t 1120
   * Netra t 1125
   * Netra t 1400/1405
   * Netra 120
   * Netra X1
   * SPARCEngine Ultra Axi
   * SPARCEngine Ultra AXmp
   * Ultra 5
   * Ultra 10
   * Ultra 30
   * Ultra 60
   * Ultra 80

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I dunno about the SunBox but VMware is possible.
Currently I run FreeBSD 4.10 in a VMware Workstation Version 4.0.5.
The machine hosting the Virtual Machine is running Windows XP. Though
I must admit I wasn't able to bring a FreeBSD Version greater than
4.10 to work in the VM.(I only tried 5.2.1)
Hexren

I've had 5-CURRENT (around 5.1.X at the time) running without issues 
under VMWare. There are one or two configuration gotchas which can be 
found on the VMWare support forum site or googledadding back in a 
'FreeBSD' token basically for the OS type...which is virtually the 
same as the existing Linux OS config...

Scott
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Re: missing kernel and kernel.old

2004-10-31 Thread M. Warner Losh
because the kernel now lives in /boot/kernel

Warner
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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-31 Thread Luke

If you are worry about power consumption or reliability when using old 
computers I have some general tips for you:
1. Don't use a storage device that has spinning disks, instead use a CF card, 
Zip Drive/Disk, etc. http://www.cfide.co.uk/compact_flash_ide_adapters.shtml
To go off on a bit of a tangent here, I find the idea of replacing hard 
drives with flash memory intriguing.  When I first heard someone talk 
about doing this several years ago, the idea was quickly shot down by 
people saying that flash memory has a very short lifetime when you write 
to it.  Even a system as minimal as a firewall will require frequent write 
operations if it does any logging at all.

Has this limitation been overcome in recent years?
Google isn't turning up any recent articles on this subject for me.
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Re: mysql and system/nice cpu usage

2004-10-31 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/31/04 12:35:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi 


The oid you are talking about is not valid in FreeBSD-4. Maybe you are 
talking about FreeBSD-5 sysctl oids? But it does worth to try but I am not 
sure which oid it is in FreeBSD 4.. 

REGARDS 

PS: I have found vm.kvm_size. I think it is the one that corresponds in your 
email? 
-

No, I gave you the correct one. Why dont you do some googling rather than 
trying to sift through docs? Its a kernel-level oid. Look in 
/boot/defaults/loader.conf

As for the memory output, perhaps one of the geniuses that came up
with that cryptic output can help
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Re: 5.3-RC1 - Hangs on high net load(?)

2004-10-31 Thread TM4525
 Are you certain that its not NFS that's locking up? Certainly the use
 of NFS muddies the issue, as it doesnt like losing packets and isn't 
 very eloquent in its handling of adversity.

I'm positive. The machine itself locks up. I cannot ctrl+alt+del, can't
switch VCs; it freezes.  NFS isn't necessarily a part of the problem
anyway.  Just general net load seems to do it. For example, if I start
multiple downloads with using Bittorent.  I haven't narrowed the issue
down terribly far, though.  It did not hang while grabbing an ISO via
HTTP at ~300 KBps.  It does, however, hang when there's significant load
and Bittorent is part of the formula. But it doesn't _always_ hang when
using it.


Have you ruled out livelock?
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Re: Determining original FBSD version

2004-10-31 Thread jason
Gerard Samuel wrote:
jason wrote:
Gerard Samuel wrote:
I plan on making the move to 5.3 on boxes running 4.10
via a fresh install.
The thought came to me as to what was the original version of
FreeBSD did I install on those boxes.
Usually I upgrade the boxes via build/install world.
If there is way to find out, that it would be interesting to know.
If not, no big deal, as its an absent minded thought...
Thanks
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I think all you can do is know what version you have now(uname -a).  
Other thatn that search for the oldest file on your computer. 

That gave me an idea.  I looked at the date of kernel.GENERIC, and a 
few other files
in /etc.  They have a date of April 21 2001.
All I have to do to find out the exact version, is to boot the GENERIC 
kernel.
I dont have a keyboard/monitor hooked up to it right now, but I'll 
check it out,
before I destroy it when I install 5.3.


Good, but you need not boot it.  You can check the release date for 4.6 
and 4.4 to find which one it should.  If you don't care about running a 
kernel out of sink with your world then by all means do it.  Be sure to 
back up data first and I would recommend going into single user mode to 
help avoid a possible panic or other strange behavior.
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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-31 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Emanuel Strobl --
 I don't know why this is in the man page, last time I read it (some
 years ago) it was not in there.
 You can use the rebuild command also on non-raid controllers, at least
 it was possible for me when I did some tests about 3 months ago.
 As I can see you're considering gmirror, perhaps that's the better
 solution for you. In all cases, simulate a drive failure, so you do know
 what to do when one drive really fails.

Any docs for gmirror except man page out there anywhere? Something like how 
to use it for root file system, how to convert a non-gmirror system, 
kernel configuration etc.

Greets, Matthias

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Re: howto software raid under FreeBSD?

2004-10-31 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Emanuel Strobl --
  Problem is, that man page says atacontrol rebuild is only valid on
  RAID capable ATA controllers. But since I have no such controller, I
  can't use this command.

 I don't know why this is in the man page, last time I read it (some
 years ago) it was not in there.
 You can use the rebuild command also on non-raid controllers, at least
 it was possible for me when I did some tests about 3 months ago.

Ok thx for that. Only one last question: Is it enough to just dd onto 2nd 
disk, create the raid via atacontrol and edit fstab to ar0 to use it on 
root partition as well?

Thx again for your help!
Greetings, Matthias

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FreeBSD box as a VOIP gateway for calling card co.

2004-10-31 Thread Hadi Maleki-Baroogh
Hi,
Anyone have any howto pages or any web sites where I can find on setting up 
a freebsd box as a voip gateway for a phone card co im looking into?

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Re: ipfw configuration to intercept SMTP traffic

2004-10-31 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Sunday 31 October 2004 21:39, Bill Eccles wrote:
 Gentleones,

 I have a commercial website/mail product running on a box. Unfortunately,
 the product is not so smart and when it needs to bounce something, it
 ignores the SMTP Always Relay Via setting and attempts to connect
 directly to the mail exchanger for the domain it's bouncing to.

 So what I figure I can do is redirect port 25 of me to any to port 25 of
 the upstream server at aa.bb.cc.dd. That makes sense, right? So I'd
 probably use:

You mean redirect [from me to any destination-port 25] to upstream server 
aa.bb.cc.dd port 25?  

 ipfw add 8000 divert 25 all from me to aa.bb.cc.dd via en0

Your rule seems to be wrong. It uses port 25 to setup the divert-socket, and 
matches all source-ports. The divert-socket default-port is 8668 (natd).  

ipfw add 8000 divert natd all from me to any 25 via en0 

Are you running natd on your machine? Natd reads/writes the packets from/to 
the divert-socket and changes IP-address and portnumber as defined by natd 
options or in your natd.conf file. In your case I would run natd with the 
option '-proxy_rule port 25 server aa.bb.cc.dd:25'. 
Natd-setup is documented in 'man 8 natd'. 

HTH,
ch

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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-31 Thread Nikolas Britton
Luke wrote:

If you are worry about power consumption or reliability when using 
old computers I have some general tips for you:
1. Don't use a storage device that has spinning disks, instead use a 
CF card, Zip Drive/Disk, etc. 
http://www.cfide.co.uk/compact_flash_ide_adapters.shtml

To go off on a bit of a tangent here, I find the idea of replacing 
hard drives with flash memory intriguing.  When I first heard someone 
talk about doing this several years ago, the idea was quickly shot 
down by people saying that flash memory has a very short lifetime when 
you write to it.  Even a system as minimal as a firewall will require 
frequent write operations if it does any logging at all.

Has this limitation been overcome in recent years?
Google isn't turning up any recent articles on this subject for me.
Yes and No, The problem is still there but when your dealing with an 8MB 
FreeBSD system (m0n0wall) all's you have to do is make a ram drive and 
copy the system to it. Then the only time you access the Flash device is 
at boot or when making changes to the config file, etc, this is how 
m0n0wall does it.

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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-31 Thread R. W.
On Sunday 31 October 2004 21:54, Luke wrote:
  If you are worry about power consumption or reliability when using
  old computers I have some general tips for you:
  1. Don't use a storage device that has spinning disks, instead use
  a CF card, Zip Drive/Disk, etc.
  http://www.cfide.co.uk/compact_flash_ide_adapters.shtml

 To go off on a bit of a tangent here, I find the idea of replacing
 hard drives with flash memory intriguing.  When I first heard someone
 talk about doing this several years ago, the idea was quickly shot
 down by people saying that flash memory has a very short lifetime
 when you write to it.  Even a system as minimal as a firewall will
 require frequent write operations if it does any logging at all.

 Has this limitation been overcome in recent years?
 Google isn't turning up any recent articles on this subject for me.

I know that embedded OSs, like VxWorks, have dedicated flash filesystems 
that do wear-levelling. These filesystems avoid having special 
physical locations, and make sure all date is occasionally moved around 
to prevent the concentration of damage. 

I believe that some flash storage devices have this built in to the 
hardware nowdays.
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my /var is full when I pkg_add --r openoffice

2004-10-31 Thread Jian Guang Xu
Is there any way I could resize this partition? 
PEARLBSD# df
Filesystem  1K-blocksUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad0s3a253678  139846   9353860%/
devfs   1   1   0   100%/dev
/dev/ad0s3e253678 108  233276 0%/tmp
/dev/ad0s3f  10275212 4797722 465547451%/usr
/dev/ad0s3d253678  195496   3788884%/var
linprocfs   4   4   0   100%/usr/compat/linux/proc


PEARLBSD# pkg_add -r openoffice
Fetching 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.3-release/Latest/openoffice.tbz...
/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libicudata.so.22.0: (null)

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libicui18n.so.22.0: (null)

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libicule.so.22.0: (null)

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libicuuc.so.22.0: (null)

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libj645fi_g.so: (null)

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libjava_uno.so: (null)

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libjdbc2.so: (null)

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libjuhx.so: (null)

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libjvm645fi.so: Can't open
'OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libjvm645fi.so': No space left on device

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libjvmaccessgcc3.so.3.1.0: Can't open
'OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libjvmaccessgcc3.so.3.1.0': No space left
on device

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/liblng645fi.so: Can't open
'OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/liblng645fi.so': No space left on device

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

/var: write failed, filesystem is full
OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/liblocaledata_en.so: Can't open
'OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/liblocaledata_en.so': No space left on
device

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

/var: write failed, filesystem is full

I couldn't find a solution through the internet. Thank you in advance

Regards, 
JX
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Re: FreeBSD box as a VOIP gateway for calling card co.

2004-10-31 Thread Eihab E. Ibrahim
- Original Message - 
From: Hadi Maleki-Baroogh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 1:39 AM
Subject: FreeBSD box as a VOIP gateway for calling card co.


Hi,
Anyone have any howto pages or any web sites where I can find on setting up 
a freebsd box as a voip gateway for a phone card co im looking into?
I'm not quiet sure, but I think you'll find Asterisk and SER interesting.
Check:
Asterisk: http://www.asteriskpbx.com
SER: http://www.iptel.org/ser/
They're both available in the ports collection:
ports/net/asterisk and ports/net/ser.
VOIP info http://www.voip-info.org can be very helpful as well.
Hope this helped.
Eihab E. Ibrahim
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Will this program work as a server program?

2004-10-31 Thread H Boyer
I am the president of the worlds smallist film and video online school.The Hirsute 
film Institute juet recieved its 501c3 this year.Now I need to learn how to operate a 
server program and some revevant IT techie stuff.The objective is to start putting up 
the schools actual web site then find students.How can you help me to reach some of 
that objective.I have another small PC to start as a server.And I can increase the 
gateway throughput on the Direcway dish that I have.Please contact me back at [EMAIL 
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Re: Determining original FBSD version

2004-10-31 Thread Jeremy Faulkner
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 18:59, Gerard Samuel wrote:
 jason wrote:
 
  Gerard Samuel wrote:
 
  I plan on making the move to 5.3 on boxes running 4.10
  via a fresh install.
  The thought came to me as to what was the original version of
  FreeBSD did I install on those boxes.
  Usually I upgrade the boxes via build/install world.
  If there is way to find out, that it would be interesting to know.
  If not, no big deal, as its an absent minded thought...
 
  Thanks
 
  I think all you can do is know what version you have now(uname -a).  
  Other thatn that search for the oldest file on your computer. 
 
 That gave me an idea.  I looked at the date of kernel.GENERIC, and a few 
 other files
 in /etc.  They have a date of April 21 2001.
 All I have to do to find out the exact version, is to boot the GENERIC 
 kernel.
 I dont have a keyboard/monitor hooked up to it right now, but I'll check 
 it out,
 before I destroy it when I install 5.3.

strings kernel.GENERIC | grep RELEASE
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Re: Will this program work as a server program?

2004-10-31 Thread Eihab E. Ibrahim
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 3:09 AM
Subject: Will this program work as a server program?


I am the president of the worlds smallist film and video online 
school.The Hirsute film Institute juet recieved its 501c3 this 
year.Now I need to learn how to operate a server program and 
some revevant IT techie stuff.The objective is to start putting up 
the schools actual web site then find students.How can you help 
me to reach some of that objective.I have another small PC to 
start as a server.And I can increase the gateway throughput on 
the Direcway dish that I have.Please contact me back at 
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The FreeBSD Handbook is your friend.
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/
It'll walk you through installing and configuring FreeBSD,
setting up Apache web server and much more.
You can find more books/articles on the FreeBSD
website http://www.freebsd.org.
Hope this helped.
Eihab E. Ibrahim
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Is my computer under spec?

2004-10-31 Thread Loren M. Lang
I have been having performance problems with my computer for months,
ever since I did a fresh install of freebsd 5.2.1.  I thought the
situation might change after debugging was turned off in RELENG_5 so I
upgraded a couple weeks ago to 5.3-BETA7, but only saw slight
improvements.  I'm running Xorg, fvwm 2.4, several xterms, vncviewer,
mozilla, xmms, and xine and my system was really running slow.  At some
point mozilla was killed because the system was out of swap space.  I
have a pentium celeron 3 600 MHz, with 128 megs of ram, 30 gig hd, 256
meg swap.  Is my system just under spec for freebsd 5.x or is something
else wrong?

I didn't really think this should push a system like this that hard.  I
might try running linux on it in a similar configuration to compare and
maybe think about some more ram if it also has problems.
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Re: ipfw configuration to intercept SMTP traffic

2004-10-31 Thread Bill Eccles
Actually, you bring up an interesting point that, yes, I'd forgotten about
natd. However, I realized after watching a tcpdump that the outgoing port is
a random port--only the destination port is 25 on the upstream box.

So, somehow I have to rig up something that listens for an SMTP connection
destined for any address from any port but to the upstream box's port 25. It
then must send it out to the aa.bb.cc.dd:25.

Any ideas, folks?

Thanks,
Bill




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 Gentleones,
 
 I have a commercial website/mail product running on a box. Unfortunately,
 the product is not so smart and when it needs to bounce something, it
 ignores the SMTP Always Relay Via setting and attempts to connect
 directly to the mail exchanger for the domain it's bouncing to.
 
 So what I figure I can do is redirect port 25 of me to any to port 25 of
 the upstream server at aa.bb.cc.dd. That makes sense, right? So I'd
 probably use:
 
 You mean redirect [from me to any destination-port 25] to upstream server
 aa.bb.cc.dd port 25?
 
 ipfw add 8000 divert 25 all from me to aa.bb.cc.dd via en0
 
 Your rule seems to be wrong. It uses port 25 to setup the divert-socket, and
 matches all source-ports. The divert-socket default-port is 8668 (natd).
 
 ipfw add 8000 divert natd all from me to any 25 via en0
 
 Are you running natd on your machine? Natd reads/writes the packets from/to
 the divert-socket and changes IP-address and portnumber as defined by natd
 options or in your natd.conf file. In your case I would run natd with the
 option '-proxy_rule port 25 server aa.bb.cc.dd:25'.
 Natd-setup is documented in 'man 8 natd'.
 
 HTH,
 ch
 
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Re: Determining original FBSD version

2004-10-31 Thread Gerard Samuel
Jeremy Faulkner wrote:
On Sun, 2004-10-31 at 18:59, Gerard Samuel wrote:
 

jason wrote:
   

Gerard Samuel wrote:
 

I plan on making the move to 5.3 on boxes running 4.10
via a fresh install.
The thought came to me as to what was the original version of
FreeBSD did I install on those boxes.
Usually I upgrade the boxes via build/install world.
If there is way to find out, that it would be interesting to know.
If not, no big deal, as its an absent minded thought...
Thanks
   

I think all you can do is know what version you have now(uname -a).  
Other thatn that search for the oldest file on your computer. 
 

That gave me an idea.  I looked at the date of kernel.GENERIC, and a few 
other files
in /etc.  They have a date of April 21 2001.
All I have to do to find out the exact version, is to boot the GENERIC 
kernel.
I dont have a keyboard/monitor hooked up to it right now, but I'll check 
it out,
before I destroy it when I install 5.3.
   

strings kernel.GENERIC | grep RELEASE
 

Excellent...
hivemind# strings kernel.GENERIC | grep RELEASE
BUS_RELEASE_RESOURCE
RELEASE ELEMENT(10)
RELEASE(10
RELEASE ELEMENT(06)
RELEASE(06)
@(#)FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sat Apr 21 10:54:49 GMT 2001
4.3-RELEASE
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Re: Is my computer under spec?

2004-10-31 Thread Tim Aslat
In the immortal words of Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I have been having performance problems with my computer for months,
 ever since I did a fresh install of freebsd 5.2.1.  I thought the
 situation might change after debugging was turned off in RELENG_5 so I
 upgraded a couple weeks ago to 5.3-BETA7, but only saw slight
 improvements.  I'm running Xorg, fvwm 2.4, several xterms, vncviewer,
 mozilla, xmms, and xine and my system was really running slow.  At
 some point mozilla was killed because the system was out of swap
 space.  I have a pentium celeron 3 600 MHz, with 128 megs of ram, 30
 gig hd, 256 meg swap.  Is my system just under spec for freebsd 5.x or
 is something else wrong?

First thing to check is how much ram is being used by the system.  the
Top command is your best friend in this case, check to see what kind of
memory usage each program has.  It will also show how much CPU usage
they are using.  

 I didn't really think this should push a system like this that hard. 
 I might try running linux on it in a similar configuration to compare
 and maybe think about some more ram if it also has problems.

I would be suspecting RAM is your main bottleneck.  Does your hard drive
seem to be constantly working?

I have 512Mb of ram installed and I'm still using some swap (33%) but I
also have quite a number of programs running continuously (firefox,
sylpheed-claws, several aterms, xmms,wmweather+, fluxbox-devel and a few
other odda  sods).  I could probably optimise this, but the actual swap
appears to be reasonably well managed and doesn't thrash my hard drives.

I think you will find the machine is fine, for most things, just needs a
little more RAM.

Cheers

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Re: Oracle 8i on FreeBSD 5.1

2004-10-31 Thread Nikolas Britton
Jon Adams wrote:
BTW: please do not tell me to try Oracle 9i, or that I should use 
another version of FreeBSD, or something like that, I am locked in 
this hardware and OS, so I need to get it to work with the current 
setup as much as possible.

What about PostgreSQL? :-)
I had a hard enough time getting Oracle 9i2 installed and working with 
Redhat 7.3 for a Compiere ERP/CRM setup

http://www.puschitz.com/InstallingOracle9i.shtml
Follow that guide and setup a test system using Redhat 7.x. Once you are 
comfortable with installing/setting up/running Oracle on this platform 
you can tranfer that knowledge into setting it up in Linux Compat Mode 
(which essentially is redhat 7.2) on FreeBSD. Thats the only advice I 
can offer.

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Re: Laptops as routers

2004-10-31 Thread cpghost
On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 01:54:33PM -0800, Luke wrote:
 To go off on a bit of a tangent here, I find the idea of replacing hard 
 drives with flash memory intriguing.  When I first heard someone talk 
 about doing this several years ago, the idea was quickly shot down by 
 people saying that flash memory has a very short lifetime when you write 
 to it.  Even a system as minimal as a firewall will require frequent write 
 operations if it does any logging at all.
 
 Has this limitation been overcome in recent years?
 Google isn't turning up any recent articles on this subject for me.

No, the limited write cycles problem is still there, but not as bad as
you might imagine.

In most cases, all you need to do is to put /var and /tmp on a memory
filesystem, and archive only compressed logs either to flash or to 
a remote server every now and then, thus greatly reducing the write
access cycles to your flash card.

But this is not always a useful solution (e.g. if you want to run an
MTA like postfix which accesses the filesystem that holds the mail
queues quite frequently). Sometimes, a 2.5 harddisk (I don't know about
microdisks' durability) is your only recourse.

Cheers,
cpghost.

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Re: Is my computer under spec?

2004-10-31 Thread Jeremy Faulkner
On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 00:35, Loren M. Lang wrote:
 I have been having performance problems with my computer for months,
 ever since I did a fresh install of freebsd 5.2.1.  I thought the
 situation might change after debugging was turned off in RELENG_5 so I
 upgraded a couple weeks ago to 5.3-BETA7, but only saw slight
 improvements.  I'm running Xorg, fvwm 2.4, several xterms, vncviewer,
 mozilla, xmms, and xine and my system was really running slow.  At some
 point mozilla was killed because the system was out of swap space.  I
 have a pentium celeron 3 600 MHz, with 128 megs of ram, 30 gig hd, 256
  oh the inhumanity!!

This is why you system sucks. It's swapping like mad. Xorg (on my
system) weighs in a 50-70 MB, Mozilla will tip the scales in that range
easily as well. Xterm-static comes in at 3-5MB each. If programs get
killed because of swap space, more ram will save the day. Or more swap
space, but in your case I say more ram.

 Is my system just under spec for freebsd 5.x or is something
 else wrong?



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Re: Oracle 8i on FreeBSD 5.1

2004-10-31 Thread Jon Adams
Nikolas Britton wrote:
Jon Adams wrote:
BTW: please do not tell me to try Oracle 9i, or that I should use 
another version of FreeBSD, or something like that, I am locked in 
this hardware and OS, so I need to get it to work with the current 
setup as much as possible.

What about PostgreSQL? :-)
I had a hard enough time getting Oracle 9i2 installed and working with 
Redhat 7.3 for a Compiere ERP/CRM setup

http://www.puschitz.com/InstallingOracle9i.shtml
Follow that guide and setup a test system using Redhat 7.x. Once you 
are comfortable with installing/setting up/running Oracle on this 
platform you can tranfer that knowledge into setting it up in Linux 
Compat Mode (which essentially is redhat 7.2) on FreeBSD. Thats the 
only advice I can offer.
PostGres is fine, I use it in production on a Linux box that I host 
sites on, but for the applications on my FBSD box, they _have_ to have 
Oracle 8i  (hardware doesnt support a newer version), but I will be 
replicating Oracle 8i databases, stored procs, triggers, sequences, 
etc... dont want to have to port the databases back and forth between a 
different platfrom (i.e. PostGres).. note this isnt a production system

I have set up Oracle on Linux before.. 4 times, on Red Had 7.1 and 
7.2... Its not that I dont know how to set up Oracle.. my problem is 
really not that deep, its just that somehow the system cant find libdl 
even though its there in /compat/linux/lib and i am using 
/compat/linux/bin/bash as the shell I know either something is wrong 
with my environment vars or I need to put an -L/compat/linux/lib 
somewhere in the Oracle installation...  I just cannot figure out which 
it is...

Thanks though...



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Re: my /var is full when I pkg_add --r openoffice

2004-10-31 Thread Matt Navarre
On Sunday 31 October 2004 04:02, Jian Guang Xu wrote:
 Is there any way I could resize this partition?
 PEARLBSD# df
 Filesystem  1K-blocksUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
 /dev/ad0s3a253678  139846   9353860%/
 devfs   1   1   0   100%/dev
 /dev/ad0s3e253678 108  233276 0%/tmp
 /dev/ad0s3f  10275212 4797722 465547451%/usr
 /dev/ad0s3d253678  195496   3788884%/var
 linprocfs   4   4   0   100%/usr/compat/linux/proc


 PEARLBSD# pkg_add -r openoffice
 Fetching
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.3-release/Latest/op
enoffice.tbz... /var: write failed, filesystem is full
 OpenOffice.org1.1.2/program/libicudata.so.22.0: (null)

You don't need to resize the partition. pkg_add uses /var/tmp by default, 
since your /var is nearly full pkg_add chokes while extracting the package. 
To solve this set PKG_TMPDIR to point to someplace with more space.

 I couldn't find a solution through the internet. Thank you in advance

 Regards,
 JX
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Re: throttling cpu speed to run cooler

2004-10-31 Thread jason
Hanspeter Roth wrote:
 On Oct 30 at 13:42, jason spoke:
 

man acpi_thermal and man acpi.  There are sysctl knobs to throttle your cpu.
   

I have 5.3-RC1 GENERIC and acpi enabled on a Centrino and on a
Sempron but no hw.acpi.thermal.
What is required to make hw.acpi.thermal appear?
-Hanspeter
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This is what you could do to check your info.
$ sysctl -a |grep thermal
hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 2950
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 3732
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 3732
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 3732 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
$
If there is no thermal you may not have support for it.  I read on the 
list where centrino now has full powernow(or something) support on BSD.  
Also search the acpi list for your board and/or bios.  There are some 
black listed products because acpi is broke on them.  I seem to remember 
some asus products mentioned.  Read the handbook about fixing or forcing 
acpi to load too if it is note black listed. 

Acpi is on in the bios and being loaded as a module right?
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USB Double-layer DVD Burner

2004-10-31 Thread Choy Kho Yee
I am thinking of buying a USB double-layer DVD Burner to backup
my data from both my desktop and laptop. And perhaps some multimedia
contents occasionally.
What should I take note of when choosing one?
Thanks.
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