Which Laptop for FreeBSD

[David Schulz]

Hello all,

i would like to buy a new Laptop in the very near future, and of course 
it has to run my favourite OS. I have never searched for a Laptop, and 
now that i did i am overwhelmed with the confusing variety of different 
Brands and Models. One of the big Questions i am having is; Should i 
look for a 64 bit Laptop or better not? I am just not sure wheter or not 
64bit will come trough this year on Laptops, and how well is it (and 
will it be) supported by FreeBSD. I know that there are some Internet 
Sites which try to maintain some data about linux / unix on laptops, but 
i found them to be quite outdated. I am looking for a Workstation 
replacement kind of Laptop, and it must have a DVI out for my Monitor. I 
kind of would like to go with 64bit, since its supposedly the future, if 
this isnt quite the time for 64bit Laptops yet, please someone educate me.


If there is anyone out there, that can recommend a new Laptop (Price is 
not an issue) that runs FreeBSD nicely, please let me know, i would most 
appreciate it.


Thanks and best regards,
David
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font renderer already registered

[snnn]

Help!
I got many warnings such as Warning: font renderer for .pcf already 
registered at priority 0 when I start X.


there is my Xorg.0.log

X Window System Version 6.9.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.9
Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.0 i386 [ELF]
Current Operating System: FreeBSD localhost.localdomain 6.0-RELEASE-p6 
FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 #1: Wed Apr  5 19:59:21 CST 2006 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/snnn i386

Build Date: 16 February 2006
   Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
   to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
   (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
   (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Apr  6 14:09:58 2006
(==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
(==) ServerLayout Layout0
(**) |--Screen Screen0 (0)
(**) |   |--Monitor Monitor0
(**) |   |--Device Card0
(**) |--Input Device Keyboard0
(**) Option XkbModel pc105
(**) Option XkbLayout us
(**) XKB: layout: us
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |--Input Device Mouse0
(WW) The directory /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ does not exist.
   Entry deleted from font path.
(==) FontPath set to 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

(==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
(==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
(II) Module ABI versions:
   X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2
   X.Org Video Driver: 0.8
   X.Org XInput driver : 0.5
   X.Org Server Extension : 0.2
   X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4
(II) Loader running on freebsd
(II) LoadModule: bitmap
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.so
(II) Module bitmap: vendor=X.Org Foundation
   compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.0
   Module class: X.Org Font Renderer
   ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: pcidata
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.so
(II) Module pcidata: vendor=X.Org Foundation
   compiled for 6.9.0, module version = 1.0.0
   ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.8
(--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0)
(--) using VT number 9

(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 10de,01e0 card , rev c1 class 06,00,00 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:00:1: chip 10de,01eb card 10de,0c17 rev c1 class 05,00,00 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:00:2: chip 10de,01ee card 10de,0c17 rev c1 class 05,00,00 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:00:3: chip 10de,01ed card 10de,0c17 rev c1 class 05,00,00 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:00:4: chip 10de,01ec card 10de,0c17 rev c1 class 05,00,00 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:00:5: chip 10de,01ef card 10de,0c17 rev c1 class 05,00,00 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 10de,0060 card 10de,0c11 rev a4 class 06,01,00 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:01:1: chip 10de,0064 card 10de,0c11 rev a2 class 0c,05,00 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:0: chip 10de,0067 card 10de,0c11 rev a4 class 0c,03,10 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:1: chip 10de,0067 card 10de,0c11 rev a4 class 0c,03,10 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:02:2: chip 10de,0068 card 10de,0c11 rev a4 class 0c,03,20 
hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:04:0: chip 10de,0066 card 10de,0c11 rev a1 class 02,00,00 
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:06:0: chip 10de,006a card 10de,4144 rev a1 class 04,01,00 
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:08:0: chip 10de,006c card , rev a3 class 06,04,00 
hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 10de,0065 card 10de,05b2 rev a2 class 01,01,8a 
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:1e:0: chip 10de,01e8 card , rev c1 class 06,04,00 
hdr 01
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0173 card , rev a3 class 03,00,00 
hdr 00
(II) PCI: 02:07:0: chip 1073,000c card 1073,000c rev 03 class 04,01,00 
hdr 00

(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (0,0,2), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
   [0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
   [0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range:
   [0] -1  0   0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Bus -1: bridge is at (0:1:0), (0,-1,-1), BCTRL: 0x0008 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 2: bridge is at (0:8:0), (0,2,2), BCTRL: 0x0002 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 2 non-prefetchable memory range:
   [0] -1  0   0xe400 - 0xe4ff (0x100) MX[B]
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 1: bridge is at (0:30:0), (0,1,1), BCTRL: 0x000a (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 1 non-prefetchable memory range:
   [0] -1  0   0xe500 - 0xe6ff (0x200) MX[B]
(II) Bus 1 prefetchable memory range:
   [0] -1  

Is there a way of automatically including a CVS tag in a string substitution

[Murray Taylor]

I am looking for a way to do string substitution
for CVS tags in the same fashion as the 

$Id$

method for the RCS version info etc...

or the SCCS 

@(#)

tagging syntax.

Is there something dumb I have overlooked or does it take 
manual intervention to include the 'official' release tag
into programs that can be viewed with ident or what.

man ident
man what


cheers
mjt

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It
takes a
touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite
direction.
--Albert Einstein 

Murray Taylor
Bytecraft Systems
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Re: FAX software ?

[Igor Robul]

On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 04:41:14PM +0200, simon butsana wrote:
 Hi,

   Try hylafax.
mgetty+sendfax is much easier to tune.
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Re: Award BIOS Upgrade Fees - Slightly Offtopic

[Igor Robul]

On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 05:50:47PM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote:
 For a 3rd party BIOS, 39.95 is cheap.  They can be much higher, close to 
 $100.
But for $50 it is possible to buy new not so bad motherboard.
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Re: programmer questions - MMAP

[Wojciech Puchar]

#include sys/mman.h
#include fcntl.h
#include stdio.h
#include unistd.h
main() {
 int ff=open(test,O_RDWR|O_CREAT,0666);
 char *adr;
 lseek(ff,124,0);
 write(ff,,1);
 adr=mmap(0,124,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_NOCORE,ff,0);


Try MAP_NOCORE|MAP_SHARED here. It's probably defaulting to a private
mapping.


WORKS!!! thank you.

another question - do i need to create 16MB hole to be able to write 
directly up to 16MB data. it would be nice if mmap is able to extend the 
file as needed without lseek/write. is it possible?


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Which BSD - Flash Drive

[orange_4444]

I would like to run a BSD distribution off a 1GB USB Flash drive...
What would be the most suitable - something like FreeSBIE?
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Giving more CPU time to a swapping process?

[Karl Ma]

Hi,

I have a python program in freebsd, doing a heavey indexing job involving a
mega size array.

The process is so memory-hungry that it starts swap after the physical RAM
max out. (To be exact, I've lowered the per-process limitation to make this
possible).

However, when I use top to monitor the status, the STATE of the process
started to stay as swread for most of the time (instead of RUN before
using swap) and its priority has dropped to -20; and the corresponding WCPU
drops to around 1% only. And the CPU consumption time in total (for the
whole job) would only increase a minute or two even the process has been
running for more than a few hours.
In Windows XP, which has less per-task resource restriction (I guess?), I
did successfully complete the task on the same hardware machine; although it
takes more than 30 mins.

How can I push up the priority of the whole paging task? How can I
allocate more CPU attention to this process? I've tried using nice
but it does not help.

Please refer to the below top's snapshots at different times. (A) is earlier
than (B), and so on.

Thanks for your help in advance.


= (A) =
last pid:   766;  load averages:  0.66,  0.21,  0.11up 0+00:19:54
23:23:04
63 processes:  2 running, 61 sleeping
CPU states: 96.6% user,  0.0% nice,  3.4% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0%idle
Mem: 341M Active, 35M Inact, 98M Wired, 704K Cache, 91M Buf, 522M Free
Swap: 998M Total, 998M Free

PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
751 root1 1180   245M   244M RUN  0:59 96.57% python

= (B) =
last pid:   792;  load averages:  1.02,  0.70,  0.36up 0+00:24:20
23:27:30
62 processes:  2 running, 60 sleeping
CPU states: 92.5% user,  0.0% nice,  6.0% system,  1.5% interrupt,  0.0%idle
Mem: 766M Active, 67M Inact, 115M Wired, 45M Cache, 109M Buf, 3636K Free
Swap: 998M Total, 37M Used, 962M Free, 3% Inuse, 17M Out

PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
751 root1 1280   744M   743M RUN  5:14 94.63% python

= (C) =
last pid:   792;  load averages:  1.06,  0.81,  0.43up 0+00:25:54
23:29:04
62 processes:  2 running, 60 sleeping
CPU states: 95.5% user,  0.0% nice,  4.1% system,  0.4% interrupt,  0.0%idle
Mem: 849M Active, 2868K Inact, 115M Wired, 28M Cache, 109M Buf, 1656K Free
Swap: 998M Total, 95M Used, 903M Free, 9% Inuse, 236K Out

PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
751 root1 1280   848M   841M RUN  6:42 91.46% python

= (D) =
last pid:   792;  load averages:  1.15,  0.87,  0.47up 0+00:26:36
23:29:46
62 processes:  1 running, 61 sleeping
CPU states: 28.6% user,  0.0% nice, 18.8% system,  1.5% interrupt, 51.1%idle
Mem: 843M Active, 5380K Inact, 116M Wired, 31M Cache, 109M Buf, 1656K Free
Swap: 998M Total, 142M Used, 856M Free, 14% Inuse, 932K In, 56M Out

PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
751 root1 -200   878M   841M swread   7:14 79.05% python

= (E) =
last pid:   817;  load averages:  0.06,  0.36,  0.36up 0+00:32:31
23:35:41
62 processes:  1 running, 61 sleeping
CPU states:  4.9% user,  0.0% nice,  7.1% system,  0.0% interrupt, 88.0%idle
Mem: 803M Active, 76M Inact, 88M Wired, 28M Cache, 109M Buf, 1656K Free
Swap: 998M Total, 234M Used, 765M Free, 23% Inuse, 3148K In, 2284K Out

PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
751 root1 -200   915M   756M swread   8:01  1.03% python
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Re: Giving more CPU time to a swapping process?

[Erik Trulsson]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 04:43:42PM +0800, Karl Ma wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a python program in freebsd, doing a heavey indexing job involving a
 mega size array.
 
 The process is so memory-hungry that it starts swap after the physical RAM
 max out. (To be exact, I've lowered the per-process limitation to make this
 possible).
 
 However, when I use top to monitor the status, the STATE of the process
 started to stay as swread for most of the time (instead of RUN before
 using swap) and its priority has dropped to -20; and the corresponding WCPU
 drops to around 1% only. And the CPU consumption time in total (for the
 whole job) would only increase a minute or two even the process has been
 running for more than a few hours.

swread means that the process is busy waiting for information to be read
from (or possibly written to) the swap space.  The process cannot use any
actual CPU time until it has gotten that information from swap.

It sounds like the process has entered that condition generally known as
thrashing where it spends most of the time swapping instead of doing
useful work.



 In Windows XP, which has less per-task resource restriction (I guess?), I
 did successfully complete the task on the same hardware machine; although it
 takes more than 30 mins.

Apparently the algorithms Windows XP uses to manage swap are a better fit
for this particular programs memory usage pattern than those of FreeBSD (or
you might run fewer other programs in parallell of XP, leaving more free
memory for this particular program.)  It is quite likely that for some
other programs you would see the reverse situation with XP being much
slower.

 
 How can I push up the priority of the whole paging task? How can I
 allocate more CPU attention to this process? I've tried using nice
 but it does not help.

That won't help.  You need to add more RAM (or decrease the memory usage of
the program, or remove any other memory-hungry programs running at the same
time, or change the memory access pattern of the program so that it has
greater reference locality so it does not need to swap as often.)

 
 Please refer to the below top's snapshots at different times. (A) is earlier
 than (B), and so on.
 
 Thanks for your help in advance.
 
 
 = (A) =
 last pid:   766;  load averages:  0.66,  0.21,  0.11up 0+00:19:54
 23:23:04
 63 processes:  2 running, 61 sleeping
 CPU states: 96.6% user,  0.0% nice,  3.4% system,  0.0% interrupt,  0.0%idle
 Mem: 341M Active, 35M Inact, 98M Wired, 704K Cache, 91M Buf, 522M Free
 Swap: 998M Total, 998M Free
 
 PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 751 root1 1180   245M   244M RUN  0:59 96.57% python
 
 = (B) =
 last pid:   792;  load averages:  1.02,  0.70,  0.36up 0+00:24:20
 23:27:30
 62 processes:  2 running, 60 sleeping
 CPU states: 92.5% user,  0.0% nice,  6.0% system,  1.5% interrupt,  0.0%idle
 Mem: 766M Active, 67M Inact, 115M Wired, 45M Cache, 109M Buf, 3636K Free
 Swap: 998M Total, 37M Used, 962M Free, 3% Inuse, 17M Out
 
 PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 751 root1 1280   744M   743M RUN  5:14 94.63% python
 
 = (C) =
 last pid:   792;  load averages:  1.06,  0.81,  0.43up 0+00:25:54
 23:29:04
 62 processes:  2 running, 60 sleeping
 CPU states: 95.5% user,  0.0% nice,  4.1% system,  0.4% interrupt,  0.0%idle
 Mem: 849M Active, 2868K Inact, 115M Wired, 28M Cache, 109M Buf, 1656K Free
 Swap: 998M Total, 95M Used, 903M Free, 9% Inuse, 236K Out
 
 PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 751 root1 1280   848M   841M RUN  6:42 91.46% python
 
 = (D) =
 last pid:   792;  load averages:  1.15,  0.87,  0.47up 0+00:26:36
 23:29:46
 62 processes:  1 running, 61 sleeping
 CPU states: 28.6% user,  0.0% nice, 18.8% system,  1.5% interrupt, 51.1%idle
 Mem: 843M Active, 5380K Inact, 116M Wired, 31M Cache, 109M Buf, 1656K Free
 Swap: 998M Total, 142M Used, 856M Free, 14% Inuse, 932K In, 56M Out
 
 PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 751 root1 -200   878M   841M swread   7:14 79.05% python
 
 = (E) =
 last pid:   817;  load averages:  0.06,  0.36,  0.36up 0+00:32:31
 23:35:41
 62 processes:  1 running, 61 sleeping
 CPU states:  4.9% user,  0.0% nice,  7.1% system,  0.0% interrupt, 88.0%idle
 Mem: 803M Active, 76M Inact, 88M Wired, 28M Cache, 109M Buf, 1656K Free
 Swap: 998M Total, 234M Used, 765M Free, 23% Inuse, 3148K In, 2284K Out
 
 PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 751 root1 -200   915M   756M swread   8:01  1.03% python




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adding ip:s with different gateway

[Perttu Laine]

I have currently ip:s from block ...125.192/26 on my freebsd server.
with gateway ...125.193.
added via rc.conf:

defaultrouter=...125.193
ifconfig_rl0=inet ...125.194  netmask 255.255.255.192
ifconfig_rl0_alias0=inet ...125.195  netmask 255.255.255.255
ifconfig_rl0_alias1=inet ...125.196  netmask 255.255.255.255
ifconfig_rl0_alias2=inet ...125.197  netmask 255.255.255.255

and so on.

Now I got new block from isp: ...122.192/26 with gw ...122.193.
So question is how to add ip's from this block to same server? With ipconfig
etc. tools and with rc.conf?


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BST instead of GMT

[Philip Radford]

Hi all,

I am looking for a way to get my FreeBSD 5.3 box to show my local time as BST 
(British Summer Time) as apposed to GMT.

I have checked and double-checked the timezone and have set this to 
Europe/London. 

However I think I need to do something with the locale. Hunting around led me 
to the /etc/login.conf and the concept of classes but can't understand or 
follow the documentation to get it set up correctly.

Any help or guidance would be appreciated.

Many thanks.

Regards
Philip Radford.

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RESOLVED : Low perf of i386 6.0 on dell poweredge 1850 bi-Xeon2.8ghzDualCore

[Eric]

Hi,

I'm comming back with solution to my problem.
In fact solution was to disable any cache on perc4 controller. I do this at 
the beginning but with perc4 controller it doesn't seems to be effective 
unless you delete everything and put good configuration when creating the 
logical drive and on more time in configuration mode.
Difference for high msql utilisation is server running near two time 
quickly.

Still don't know why it was so more visible with smp.
For information perc4 configuration is :

On creation and on configuration :  Write Policy -- Writethru
Read Policy -- 
non-adaptive



Eric.


On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 04:19:15PM +0100, Eric D'HEM wrote:
Mail NETvigieHi,

I buy a new DELL PowerEdge 1850 with Bi-Xeon 2.8GHZ/2*2MB Dual Core 
800FSB

processor, 2Go DDR2 RAM, PERC4di RAID controller with 2 SCSI U320
15.000tpm
36Go hdd on RAID1.

I install on it Freebsd 6.0, apache 2.2.0 and mysql 4.1.18 and compare
performance with :

OLD PowerEDge with only simple Bi-Xeon 3.0 GHZ and freebsd 4.11.

Result is that web and local databases query are +- 4 times slower with
freebsd 6.0 and dual-core.

I try with and without smp and  threaded kernel and results are same.
I came back to Generic kernel to see if it come from my kernel
configuration but result was same.


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Switch from SATA-RAID to gmirror?

[Ashley Moran]

I've just installed a new server with gmirror and I like it.  I've got an 
identical server running on-board RAID currently.  Can I split the array in 
the BIOS, install gmirror on disk 1, reboot, and add the second disk in?  Or 
will there be any complications with FreeBSD being initially installed on an 
array?

Ashley
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Re: How to handle 'local' ports/packages?

[freebsd-questions]

 On Wednesday 05 April 2006 01:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  to the +CONTENTS file for the package, but then portmanager complains that
  it is nonexistent and won't complete 'portmanager -s'. To make matters
  more awkward, this package is built from a closed-source binary
  distribution and thus can't be properly ported, so I can't set it up
  properly. 
 
 A port does not have to be built from source, there are several (maybe many) 
 closed-source packages in the ports-tree, for example:
 
 archivers/rar
 mail/mulberry
 x11/nvidia-driver

Ok, that's fine, but how can I have a port on my system that isn't in the
ports tree available to the world? I mean, won't anything I add to my local
tree be deleted by cvsup'ing?

joel
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Re: Switch from SATA-RAID to gmirror?

[Igor Robul]

Hello,

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 11:52:55AM +0100, Ashley Moran wrote:
 I've just installed a new server with gmirror and I like it.  I've got an 
 identical server running on-board RAID currently.  Can I split the array in 
 the BIOS, install gmirror on disk 1, reboot, and add the second disk in?  Or 
 will there be any complications with FreeBSD being initially installed on an 
 array?
I recommend you to follow this rule:
 If it is not broken, then dont fix it.

In your case I think you better leave all as is.
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Re: Switch from SATA-RAID to gmirror?

[Wojciech Puchar]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 11:52:55AM +0100, Ashley Moran wrote:

I've just installed a new server with gmirror and I like it.  I've got an
identical server running on-board RAID currently.  Can I split the array in
the BIOS, install gmirror on disk 1, reboot, and add the second disk in?  Or


i think - just YES. no problem

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Re: Giving more CPU time to a swapping process?

[Wojciech Puchar]

running for more than a few hours.
In Windows XP, which has less per-task resource restriction (I guess?), I
did successfully complete the task on the same hardware machine; although it
takes more than 30 mins.

How can I push up the priority of the whole paging task? How can I


this will not speed up disk drive which already works at 100%.
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Re: BST instead of GMT

[Alex Zbyslaw]

Philip Radford wrote:


Hi all,

I am looking for a way to get my FreeBSD 5.3 box to show my local time as BST 
(British Summer Time) as apposed to GMT.

I have checked and double-checked the timezone and have set this to Europe/London. 


However I think I need to do something with the locale. Hunting around led me 
to the /etc/login.conf and the concept of classes but can't understand or 
follow the documentation to get it set up correctly.
 

Check that /etc/localtime exists and is the same as the London timezone 
file:


$ diff /etc/localtime /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/London

should produce no output.

Also check that you do not have a TZ variable set as that will affect 
what date shows you.


I've never had to do anything login class related to make this work.

There may be other things...

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2 nets

[Playnet]

Hello freebsd-questions,

  I have two nets: wireless and ethernet and i need make something for
combine these into 1 net.
How do this in freebsd?

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Re: How to handle 'local' ports/packages?

[Alex Zbyslaw]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ok, that's fine, but how can I have a port on my system that isn't in the
ports tree available to the world? I mean, won't anything I add to my local
tree be deleted by cvsup'ing?
 


cvsup won't delete things you add, but I believe portsnap does.

I have a whole new port, and local patches for another in my /usr/ports 
tree and they just stay there.


hth,

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Re: Switch from SATA-RAID to gmirror?

[Igor Robul]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 01:13:02PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 11:52:55AM +0100, Ashley Moran wrote:
 I've just installed a new server with gmirror and I like it.  I've got an
 identical server running on-board RAID currently.  Can I split the array 
 in
 the BIOS, install gmirror on disk 1, reboot, and add the second disk in?  
 Or
 
 i think - just YES. no problem
Also, he need to tweak /etc/fstab before and after he goes to gmirror

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Re: How to handle 'local' ports/packages?

[Lowell Gilbert]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Ok, that's fine, but how can I have a port on my system that isn't in the
 ports tree available to the world? I mean, won't anything I add to my local
 tree be deleted by cvsup'ing?

Not with the default cvsup settings, no.
cvsup will only delete things that were in the tree to begin with, and
then removed.
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Re: Switch from SATA-RAID to gmirror?

[Ashley Moran]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 12:03, Igor Robul wrote:
 I recommend you to follow this rule:
  If it is not broken, then dont fix it.

 In your case I think you better leave all as is.

Igor

Actually one of the reasons is I get loads of out of memory errors (and a few 
others) during high load.  Prob should have mentioned that in my original 
e-mail.  I'm worried that the Postgres cluster will be corrupted at some 
point.  There's no evidence it's happened yet but somehow I feel safer 
risking the transition than leaving it as it is.

Ashley
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PCL interprefer for unix

[Wojciech Puchar]

anybody knows about program able to convert PCL printer code to 
postscript/PDF/bitmap/whatever - so it will be possible to view PCL prints 
on monitor and print it on non-PCL printers?


thanks! Wojtek
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Re: 2 nets

[Wojciech Puchar]

 I have two nets: wireless and ethernet and i need make something for
combine these into 1 net.
How do this in freebsd?




man 4 bridge


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Oneway mailing; does anything beat mailman??

[Jonas Jacobsen]

Hi list

I work for af company who recently has started sending out weekly 
newsletters for other companys.


Somtimes over 10 mail. It is only needed to send the mail out. And 
the most important is the speed.


Is there another listsoftware there is better for oneway maling ???

and how many mails, do you think can be sent per hour, with the ringt 
configuration???


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Lintoo I/S
Buchwaldsgade 50
5000 Odense C

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Java JDK, JRE 1.5 Binaries for FreeBSD

[Rodrigo G. Tavares de Souza]

Now we'll have a native JVM to FreeBSD
It will be great...*

*http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-announce/2006-April/001057.html

http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=14248limit=nothreshold=-1

Best Regards,
Rodrigo Souza
Sao Paulo - Brazil*
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Re: How to handle 'local' ports/packages?

[Joel Hatton]

Alex Zbyslaw said:

 cvsup won't delete things you add, but I believe portsnap does.
 

Thanks, Alex. I'll have to experiment with portsnap.

cheers,
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Re: Cvsup installworld process question

[Lowell Gilbert]

Bryan Curl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hopefully this is right place for my question and not to redundant.

When in doubt, this (freebsd-questions) is always the right place for
questions about FreeBSD.

 I have a new minimalist installation for use as a file server only (FreeBSD
 6.0-RELEASE) with a very small set of ports installed. Basically Samba,
 Cvsup,man files, ports, all the source and their dependencies. I am
 primarily interested in keeping the system up to date with security patches,
 system updates, and of course, the ports I run. I want to optimize the
 amount of disk space for the public shares so I don't want to arbitrarily
 install a lot of programs I don't need.

Okay, although these days an extra few hundred megabytes on a file
server shouldn't be a big deal.  It's less than a dollar's worth of
hard disk.

 My question is,
 1.) If I CVSUP SRC-ALL,  'make buildworld', 'make installworld' etc, will
 that install the entire source tree to my machine and eat up disk space
 unnecessarily? In other words do I need to weed out all but the basic
 components I want before make installworld?

The recommended approach is to update the whole base system at once.
It's not actually necessary, but following the official upgrade
procedure is highly recommended.  Note that this has nothing to do
with your ports.

 2.) What branches of the source tree would I  be required to keep up to date
 for my minimal installation?

That would depend on your needs; but if you need to ask, I would
strongly recommend against doing it.

 I realized in testing on an older system that portupgrade will only install
 ports I am using but don't know if make installworld will do the same.

portupgrade will upgrade the ports you have installed, whether you
have used them or not.  
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pkg_add problem

[serguey ogoltsoff]

When I tried to pkg_add make-3.79.1 the attempt failed
--NO RECORD.
My try to copy the file via
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.3-release/Latest/make-3.79.1.tbz

was also a failure.
Then I sifted all http://ftps mirrored in A2.FTP Sites
and found out that no one of them
contains'5.3-release'.
How can I get make-3.79.1.tbz please?

yours`
serguey

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Re: 2 nets

[Igor Robul]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 01:51:08PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 
  I have two nets: wireless and ethernet and i need make something for
 combine these into 1 net.
 How do this in freebsd?
 
 
 
 man 4 bridge
or better man 4 if_bridge
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Re: PCL interprefer for unix

[Igor Robul]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 01:50:33PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 anybody knows about program able to convert PCL printer code to 
 postscript/PDF/bitmap/whatever - so it will be possible to view PCL prints 
 on monitor and print it on non-PCL printers?
Maybe
http://www.t2-project.org/packages/afpl-ghostpcl.html

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Re: understanding of make.conf

[Lowell Gilbert]

Beat.Siegenthaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi all,
 
 i try to build NTP from ports. As I have a new old trimble GPS i want to
 add the parse clock for trimble tsip.
 
 When i do a
 
 ./configure --enable-TRIMTSIP
 
 directly in the work folder i get
 checking Trimble GPS receiver/TSIP protocol... yes - looks good
 
 What is the equivalent in make.conf ?
 
 .if${.CURDIR:M*/net/ntp}
 TRIMTSIP=YES
 .endif
 
 and many other try's do not work.
 checking Trimble GPS receiver/TSIP protocol... no

Did you have any reason to think that would work?
I would expect the syntax to be more like
CONFIGURE_ARGS+=  --enable-TRIMTSIP 
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RE: Which Laptop for FreeBSD

[fbsd_user]

This question was just covered in great detail last 2 weeks.
Check the archives for subject What laptop do you recommend?

Secondly, you should first search the archives for answers to
your questions before posting to this list.

http://freebsd.rambler.ru/  us this url to search archives.




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Subject: Which Laptop for FreeBSD


Hello all,

i would like to buy a new Laptop in the very near future, and of
course
it has to run my favourite OS. I have never searched for a Laptop,
and
now that i did i am overwhelmed with the confusing variety of
different
Brands and Models. One of the big Questions i am having is; Should i
look for a 64 bit Laptop or better not? I am just not sure wheter or
not
64bit will come trough this year on Laptops, and how well is it (and
will it be) supported by FreeBSD. I know that there are some
Internet
Sites which try to maintain some data about linux / unix on laptops,
but
i found them to be quite outdated. I am looking for a Workstation
replacement kind of Laptop, and it must have a DVI out for my
Monitor. I
kind of would like to go with 64bit, since its supposedly the
future, if
this isnt quite the time for 64bit Laptops yet, please someone
educate me.

If there is anyone out there, that can recommend a new Laptop (Price
is
not an issue) that runs FreeBSD nicely, please let me know, i would
most
appreciate it.

Thanks and best regards,
David
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help for portdowngrade

[Yuan Jue]

Hi all.

Could anyone please get me an outdated port called 'zh-CJK-4.6.0'
through using portdowngrade zh-CJK-4.6.0 ?

I am in a subnet and cannot connect the anonCVS directly. Any help
would be very appreciate. Thanks in advance

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Re: Which Laptop for FreeBSD

[David Kelly]

On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:35 AM, David Schulz wrote:

If there is anyone out there, that can recommend a new Laptop  
(Price is not an issue) that runs FreeBSD nicely, please let me  
know, i would most appreciate it.


Apple released Boot Camp for their Intel based machines yesterday. I  
don't doubt it will be long before someone tries to install FreeBSD  
on Apple's new hardware. Meanwhile with a MacBook Pro you'd have a  
commercially supported Unix also too.


I'm rather impressed with my MacBook:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] {39} uname -a
Darwin Laptop.local 8.6.1 Darwin Kernel Version 8.6.1: Tue Mar  7  
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Re: Oneway mailing; does anything beat mailman??

[Emil Thelin]

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Jonas Jacobsen wrote:

I work for af company who recently has started sending out weekly newsletters 
for other companys.


Somtimes over 10 mail. It is only needed to send the mail out. And the 
most important is the speed.


Is there another listsoftware there is better for oneway maling ???


Im in a similar position and I've been asking around on a few 
mailinglists and from what I understand there dosen't seem to exist any 
magic application for this.


Basiclly, all answers I've got is: 'use this[1]-mailinglist-software'.

Will follow this thread with great interest.

[1] = Mailman, majordomo, mlmmj and so on.

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Security logfile

[Jim Csoka]

I accidentally deleted my security log file - /var/log/security

I used touch to recreate the file, but logging is no longer occurring.  I'm not 
sure why.  It doesn't appear to be a permissions issue.I tried chmod 755 (I 
won't leave it that way) just to confirm that it wasn't a matter of 
permissions, but logging is still not occurring.

Any ideas?
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Re: Help?

[Bill Moran]

Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I have a home
 workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do more with, but don't want
 to give MS any more Hundreds of hard earned dollars.
 
 My first question is where can I find a site that will list all approved or
 thoroughly checked out hardware to build a box (motherboards, and the
 like).  I don't have the time, or patience to get into major software
 conflicts or bugs. I want to follow a A to B to C box build and software
 setup. Is there someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there
 a website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there a BSD for
 idiots instruction book that's current? Is there a BSD project team working
 with manufactures and touting their successes?  Help!

Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on this list, but
you've said a number of things that tell me that you will be unsuccessful
with FreeBSD:
1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
2) You're coming from a Windows world
3) You don't have time or patience

#3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_ take you
some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and effort to get it
working the way you want.  Since you are totally new to it, it _will_
require patience.

If you don't have time or patience to learn right now, you're setting
yourself up for failure.  When you do have some time and patience, we'll
be happy to help you through your learning curve.  If you're looking for
a fast, easy fix, you're not going to find it by switching operating
systems to something you know nothing about.

I've seen a number of people bash Linux and the BSDs because they wanted
a simple, cheap solution to Windows and did not have the time or
patience to work through the learning curve.  Unless I've misinterpreted
your email and you do have some Unix experience, this is not a good time
to make the switch.

Just my $.02.

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Re: Giving more CPU time to a swapping process?

[Chuck Swiger]

Karl Ma wrote:

The process is so memory-hungry that it starts swap after the physical RAM
max out. (To be exact, I've lowered the per-process limitation to make this
possible).


What did you lower, exactly?  If you reduce the max resident datasize 
needlessly, you're going to make your program swap more and run much slower.



However, when I use top to monitor the status, the STATE of the process
started to stay as swread for most of the time (instead of RUN before
using swap) and its priority has dropped to -20; and the corresponding WCPU
drops to around 1% only. And the CPU consumption time in total (for the
whole job) would only increase a minute or two even the process has been
running for more than a few hours.


Yes, because the task isn't using much CPU, it's entirely I/O bound.


In Windows XP, which has less per-task resource restriction (I guess?), I
did successfully complete the task on the same hardware machine; although it
takes more than 30 mins.

How can I push up the priority of the whole paging task? How can I
allocate more CPU attention to this process? I've tried using nice
but it does not help.


Won't help.  Add more RAM, or adjust the program to be more clever about the 
use of memory, possibly by using Numeric/numarray.


The size of your python process is surprising to me, python tends to run 
relatively lightweight process sizes even when handling large data sets (ie, 
 1GB of data per day)...


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Postfix + saslauthd + Courier-IMAP

[Soo-Hyun Choi]

Hi,

I was using FreeBSD long time ago, and now I am trying to move back to
FreeBSD from Linux.

In doing so, I got a question on how to set up a FreeBSD 6.0 with
Postfix + saslauthd (sasl2) + IMAP. I installed the necessary package
from the ports, but I am not so clear how to set it up, and how to run
it.

Thanks for your comments,
Soo-Hyun
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Re: Giving more CPU time to a swapping process?

[Bill Moran]

Karl Ma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a python program in freebsd, doing a heavey indexing job involving a
 mega size array.
 
 The process is so memory-hungry that it starts swap after the physical RAM
 max out. (To be exact, I've lowered the per-process limitation to make this
 possible).

Why would you do this?  I dare you to lower the per-process limitation on
Window XP and see how the run times compare.  If you lower the amount of
resources, of course the process will perform badly.

Any time a process has to swap, performance will suffer _greatly_.  Either
invest in more RAM or optimize the process to be more RAM efficient.

 However, when I use top to monitor the status, the STATE of the process
 started to stay as swread for most of the time (instead of RUN before
 using swap) and its priority has dropped to -20; and the corresponding WCPU
 drops to around 1% only. And the CPU consumption time in total (for the
 whole job) would only increase a minute or two even the process has been
 running for more than a few hours.

Yes.  That is the system automatically doing what you are asking how to
do.  Since the process is spending so much time waiting for data to
swap in/out, the kernel lowers the priority (lower priority # on Unix
systems means the process has a higher priority) so the process will
be the first into the run queue when it has it's data.  However, it
can't run when it doesn't have the data it needs, and swapping takes
time.

 In Windows XP, which has less per-task resource restriction (I guess?), I
 did successfully complete the task on the same hardware machine; although it
 takes more than 30 mins.

Did you lower the per-process limit on XP to match what you did on FreeBSD?
If not, then why are you trying to compare apples to elephants?

 How can I push up the priority of the whole paging task?

If you want to change the priority of the paging task, you'll need to
hack the kernel.

 How can I
 allocate more CPU attention to this process? I've tried using nice
 but it does not help.

nice is the correct command to allocate more CPU attention to the process.
However, the process can't use the CPU if it doesn't have it's data in
memory.

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http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: Security logfile

[Karol Kwiatkowski]

On 04/06/06 15:52, Jim Csoka wrote:
 I accidentally deleted my security log file - /var/log/security
 
 I used touch to recreate the file, but logging is no longer occurring.
 I'm not sure why.  It doesn't appear to be a permissions issue.
 I tried chmod 755 (I won't leave it that way) just to confirm that
 it wasn't a matter of permissions, but logging is still not occurring.
 
 Any ideas?

Try restarting your syslog daemon. Also, you can check default file
permission in /etc/newsyslog.conf.

HTH,

Karol

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Re: adding ip:s with different gateway

[Bill Moran]

Perttu Laine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have currently ip:s from block ...125.192/26 on my freebsd server.
 with gateway ...125.193.
 added via rc.conf:
 
 defaultrouter=...125.193
 ifconfig_rl0=inet ...125.194  netmask 255.255.255.192
 ifconfig_rl0_alias0=inet ...125.195  netmask 255.255.255.255
 ifconfig_rl0_alias1=inet ...125.196  netmask 255.255.255.255
 ifconfig_rl0_alias2=inet ...125.197  netmask 255.255.255.255
 
 and so on.
 
 Now I got new block from isp: ...122.192/26 with gw ...122.193.
 So question is how to add ip's from this block to same server? With ipconfig
 etc. tools and with rc.conf?

It's not possible to have 2 default gateways.  That's not a FreeBSD thing,
it's a violation of the routing system.

If you want failover between two different gateways, you'll need to set
up BGP of some other routing control system to automatically adjust routes
as needed.  An explanation of BGP or any similar routing protocol is
beyond the scope of an email explanation - if that's what you need, I
suggest you look to amazon.com or similar for research materials.

-- 
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Re: Help?

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2006-04-06 09:49, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I
 have a home workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do
 more with, but don't want to give MS any more Hundreds of hard
 earned dollars.

 My first question is where can I find a site that will list
 all approved or thoroughly checked out hardware to build a
 box (motherboards, and the like).  I don't have the time, or
 patience to get into major software conflicts or bugs. I want
 to follow a A to B to C box build and software setup. Is there
 someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there a
 website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there
 a BSD for idiots instruction book that's current? Is there a
 BSD project team working with manufactures and touting their
 successes?  Help!

 Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on
 this list, but you've said a number of things that tell me that
 you will be unsuccessful with FreeBSD:
 1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
 2) You're coming from a Windows world
 3) You don't have time or patience

 #3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_
 take you some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and
 effort to get it working the way you want.  Since you are
 totally new to it, it _will_ require patience.

 If you don't have time or patience to learn right now, you're
 setting yourself up for failure.  When you do have some time
 and patience, we'll be happy to help you through your learning
 curve.  If you're looking for a fast, easy fix, you're not
 going to find it by switching operating systems to something
 you know nothing about.

 I've seen a number of people bash Linux and the BSDs because
 they wanted a simple, cheap solution to Windows and did not
 have the time or patience to work through the learning curve.
 Unless I've misinterpreted your email and you do have some Unix
 experience, this is not a good time to make the switch.

No, this post shouldn't be unpopular on this list.

  * It was written in a clear, non-confrontational, civilized tone.
  * It explains why making the switch to FreeBSD may turn out badly.
  * It also makes it very clear that time and effort _is_ required.

Tom, please read carefully what Bill Moran has written.  Even if
I tried, I would probably fail to put it all in better words.

Then, if you decide that you _have_ the patience and time to
switch, feel free to ask any question about FreeBSD here :)

- Giorgos

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RE: Postfix + saslauthd + Courier-IMAP

[Zimmerman, Eric]

 
 I was using FreeBSD long time ago, and now I am trying to move back to
 FreeBSD from Linux.
 
 In doing so, I got a question on how to set up a FreeBSD 6.0 with
 Postfix + saslauthd (sasl2) + IMAP. I installed the necessary package
 from the ports, but I am not so clear how to set it up, and how to run
 it.
 

Hi

Try here:
http://www.flakshack.com/anti-spam/wiki/index.php


and here:
http://genco.gen.tc/postfix_virtual.php

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Re: Oneway mailing; does anything beat mailman??

[Chuck Swiger]

Jonas Jacobsen wrote:
Somtimes over 10 mail. It is only needed to send the mail out. And 
the most important is the speed.


Hmm.  We are talking about opt-in lists, right?


Is there another listsoftware there is better for oneway maling ???


Mailman is a fine mailing list manager, and I think it has more 
functionality and a better security track record than some of the other systems.


and how many mails, do you think can be sent per hour, with the ringt 
configuration???


This depends entirely upon the SMTP server Mailman is talking to, the size 
of your messages, and the size of your outbound pipe.


You can deliver on the order of a million messages a day @ 15K/message using 
a Pentium-200-grade box [1] and a T1 line, and depending on how well your 
recipients are batched at the same destination SMTP server, you might do 
significantly better than that.


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[1]: Fast disks and adequate RAM are far more important to this than CPU. 
And bandwidth, of course.

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Re: Help?

[eoghan]

Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

On 2006-04-06 09:49, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I
have a home workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do
more with, but don't want to give MS any more Hundreds of hard
earned dollars.

My first question is where can I find a site that will list
all approved or thoroughly checked out hardware to build a
box (motherboards, and the like).  I don't have the time, or
patience to get into major software conflicts or bugs. I want
to follow a A to B to C box build and software setup. Is there
someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there a
website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there
a BSD for idiots instruction book that's current? Is there a
BSD project team working with manufactures and touting their
successes?  Help!

Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on
this list, but you've said a number of things that tell me that
you will be unsuccessful with FreeBSD:
1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
2) You're coming from a Windows world
3) You don't have time or patience

#3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_
take you some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and
effort to get it working the way you want.  Since you are
totally new to it, it _will_ require patience.

If you don't have time or patience to learn right now, you're
setting yourself up for failure.  When you do have some time
and patience, we'll be happy to help you through your learning
curve.  If you're looking for a fast, easy fix, you're not
going to find it by switching operating systems to something
you know nothing about.

I've seen a number of people bash Linux and the BSDs because
they wanted a simple, cheap solution to Windows and did not
have the time or patience to work through the learning curve.
Unless I've misinterpreted your email and you do have some Unix
experience, this is not a good time to make the switch.


No, this post shouldn't be unpopular on this list.

  * It was written in a clear, non-confrontational, civilized tone.
  * It explains why making the switch to FreeBSD may turn out badly.
  * It also makes it very clear that time and effort _is_ required.

Tom, please read carefully what Bill Moran has written.  Even if
I tried, I would probably fail to put it all in better words.

Then, if you decide that you _have_ the patience and time to
switch, feel free to ask any question about FreeBSD here :)

- Giorgos


Yes, I agree. Although I had the luxury of having two machines, the 
other being a mac, so I could play with unix on that. I also dumped 
windows on my pc and decided on freeBSD. At first, I had trouble 
installing and configuring it. But with some time and this list I am up 
and running and get more and more comfortable with it each day.
So if you have a spare pc lying around, try it out on this first till 
you get comfortable, and then go for it.

Eoghan
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Re: Giving more CPU time to a swapping process?

[usleepless]

Hello,

i am just wondering myself: this has nothing to with copy on write?
or does that not exist on neither platform?

regards,

usleep

On 4/6/06, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Karl Ma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a python program in freebsd, doing a heavey indexing job involving
 a
  mega size array.
 
  The process is so memory-hungry that it starts swap after the physical RAM
  max out. (To be exact, I've lowered the per-process limitation to make
 this
  possible).

 Why would you do this?  I dare you to lower the per-process limitation on
 Window XP and see how the run times compare.  If you lower the amount of
 resources, of course the process will perform badly.

 Any time a process has to swap, performance will suffer _greatly_.  Either
 invest in more RAM or optimize the process to be more RAM efficient.

  However, when I use top to monitor the status, the STATE of the process
  started to stay as swread for most of the time (instead of RUN before
  using swap) and its priority has dropped to -20; and the corresponding
 WCPU
  drops to around 1% only. And the CPU consumption time in total (for the
  whole job) would only increase a minute or two even the process has been
  running for more than a few hours.

 Yes.  That is the system automatically doing what you are asking how to
 do.  Since the process is spending so much time waiting for data to
 swap in/out, the kernel lowers the priority (lower priority # on Unix
 systems means the process has a higher priority) so the process will
 be the first into the run queue when it has it's data.  However, it
 can't run when it doesn't have the data it needs, and swapping takes
 time.

  In Windows XP, which has less per-task resource restriction (I guess?), I
  did successfully complete the task on the same hardware machine; although
 it
  takes more than 30 mins.

 Did you lower the per-process limit on XP to match what you did on FreeBSD?
 If not, then why are you trying to compare apples to elephants?

  How can I push up the priority of the whole paging task?

 If you want to change the priority of the paging task, you'll need to
 hack the kernel.

  How can I
  allocate more CPU attention to this process? I've tried using nice
  but it does not help.

 nice is the correct command to allocate more CPU attention to the process.
 However, the process can't use the CPU if it doesn't have it's data in
 memory.

 --
 Bill Moran
 Potential Technologies
 http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: Postfix + saslauthd + Courier-IMAP

[Emil Thelin]

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Soo-Hyun Choi wrote:


In doing so, I got a question on how to set up a FreeBSD 6.0 with
Postfix + saslauthd (sasl2) + IMAP. I installed the necessary package
from the ports, but I am not so clear how to set it up, and how to run
it.


http://postfixwiki.org/ - will probably be helpful.

/e
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Problems with Maxtor external USB hard drive - 6.1-PRERELEASE

[Duncan Sayers]

I am trying to use a Maxtor 3200 300GB external USB drive. When I
connect the drive I get the following message:

 uhub0: device problem (SET_ADDR_FAILED), disabling port 2

You'll also see this in the dmseg that follows from when the drive was
plugged in at bootup.

There is nothing wrong with the drive (it works fine plugged into my
laptop running XP).

As per the umass manpage I have usb, ohci, da and scbus enabled in the kernel.

Can anyone give me some pointers as to what the above error might indicate?

Thanks.

dmesg as follows:

Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Wed Mar 15 23:26:18 CST 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FERGIE
ACPI APIC Table: RCCGCLE
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 1.80GHz (1794.19-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf24  Stepping = 4
  
Features=0x3febfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM
  Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
real memory  = 1073676288 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1041702912 (993 MB)
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  2
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  3
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [DEB_] had invalid type
(Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [MLIB] had invalid type
(Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [IO__] had invalid type
(Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [DATA] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [SIO_] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [SB__] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [PM__] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [ICNT] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [ACPI] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [IORG] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [SB__] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [PM__] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [SIO_] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [PM__] had invalid type
(String) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [BIOS] had invalid type
(Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [CMOS] had invalid type
(Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [KBC_] had invalid type
(Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0698: *** Warning: Type override - [OEM_] had invalid type
(Integer) for Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI
ioapic0 Version 1.1 irqs 0-15 on motherboard
ioapic1 Version 1.1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard
ioapic2 Version 1.1 irqs 32-47 on motherboard
npx0: [FAST]
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: RCC GCLE on motherboard
Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x508-0x50b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0
cpu2: ACPI CPU on acpi0
cpu3: ACPI CPU on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pci0: display, VGA at device 14.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 15.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: ServerWorks CSB5 UDMA100 controller port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 15.1 on
pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
ohci0: OHCI (generic) USB controller mem 0xfe7fe000-0xfe7fefff irq
10 at device 15.2 on pci0
ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: OHCI (generic) USB controller on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered
pcib1: ACPI Host-PCI bridge on acpi0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
pcib2: ACPI Host-PCI bridge on acpi0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
pcib3: ACPI Host-PCI bridge on acpi0
pci3: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
amr0: LSILogic MegaRAID 1.53 mem 

linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden

[Peter]

Anyone know how to install flash6 on FreeBSD 5.4?  This is what I get
when I try to install the port:

-
===  linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden:
http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/83421018-b3ef-11da-a32d-000c6ec775d9.html.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin6.
-

The URL suggests to install flash7 or flash8 but I heard that these
versions are unstable and frequently crash firefox (I'm using 1.5.0.1).

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Re: Help?

[usleepless]

how about one of the LiveCDs? or don't they work like knoppix/ubuntu
auto configuring the most important hardware ( inputdevices, audio,
video ) ?

regards,

usleep


On 4/6/06, eoghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
  On 2006-04-06 09:49, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I
  have a home workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do
  more with, but don't want to give MS any more Hundreds of hard
  earned dollars.
 
  My first question is where can I find a site that will list
  all approved or thoroughly checked out hardware to build a
  box (motherboards, and the like).  I don't have the time, or
  patience to get into major software conflicts or bugs. I want
  to follow a A to B to C box build and software setup. Is there
  someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there a
  website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there
  a BSD for idiots instruction book that's current? Is there a
  BSD project team working with manufactures and touting their
  successes?  Help!
  Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on
  this list, but you've said a number of things that tell me that
  you will be unsuccessful with FreeBSD:
  1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
  2) You're coming from a Windows world
  3) You don't have time or patience
 
  #3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_
  take you some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and
  effort to get it working the way you want.  Since you are
  totally new to it, it _will_ require patience.
 
  If you don't have time or patience to learn right now, you're
  setting yourself up for failure.  When you do have some time
  and patience, we'll be happy to help you through your learning
  curve.  If you're looking for a fast, easy fix, you're not
  going to find it by switching operating systems to something
  you know nothing about.
 
  I've seen a number of people bash Linux and the BSDs because
  they wanted a simple, cheap solution to Windows and did not
  have the time or patience to work through the learning curve.
  Unless I've misinterpreted your email and you do have some Unix
  experience, this is not a good time to make the switch.
 
  No, this post shouldn't be unpopular on this list.
 
* It was written in a clear, non-confrontational, civilized tone.
* It explains why making the switch to FreeBSD may turn out badly.
* It also makes it very clear that time and effort _is_ required.
 
  Tom, please read carefully what Bill Moran has written.  Even if
  I tried, I would probably fail to put it all in better words.
 
  Then, if you decide that you _have_ the patience and time to
  switch, feel free to ask any question about FreeBSD here :)
 
  - Giorgos

 Yes, I agree. Although I had the luxury of having two machines, the
 other being a mac, so I could play with unix on that. I also dumped
 windows on my pc and decided on freeBSD. At first, I had trouble
 installing and configuring it. But with some time and this list I am up
 and running and get more and more comfortable with it each day.
 So if you have a spare pc lying around, try it out on this first till
 you get comfortable, and then go for it.
 Eoghan
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Re: Which BSD - Flash Drive

[Chuck Swiger]

orange_ wrote:

I would like to run a BSD distribution off a 1GB USB Flash drive...
What would be the most suitable - something like FreeSBIE?


That's possible.  You do understand that flash drives only have very limited 
# of write cycles before they fail, and should be operated in read-only mode 
most of the time?


If you're planning to use this for a dedicated appliance-type role, ie, 
router, firewall, this is fine.  If you want to do development or 
general-purpose interactive use, USB flash drives aren't a good choice.


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Re: Giving more CPU time to a swapping process?

[Bill Moran]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 i am just wondering myself: this has nothing to with copy on write?
 or does that not exist on neither platform?

COW is only relevent when a process forks and the OS can make decisions
about whether memory can be shared between the two processes.  He hasn't
stated enough about the application to know whether that's relevent or
not.

 On 4/6/06, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Karl Ma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I have a python program in freebsd, doing a heavey indexing job involving
  a
   mega size array.
  
   The process is so memory-hungry that it starts swap after the physical RAM
   max out. (To be exact, I've lowered the per-process limitation to make
  this
   possible).
 
  Why would you do this?  I dare you to lower the per-process limitation on
  Window XP and see how the run times compare.  If you lower the amount of
  resources, of course the process will perform badly.
 
  Any time a process has to swap, performance will suffer _greatly_.  Either
  invest in more RAM or optimize the process to be more RAM efficient.
 
   However, when I use top to monitor the status, the STATE of the process
   started to stay as swread for most of the time (instead of RUN before
   using swap) and its priority has dropped to -20; and the corresponding
  WCPU
   drops to around 1% only. And the CPU consumption time in total (for the
   whole job) would only increase a minute or two even the process has been
   running for more than a few hours.
 
  Yes.  That is the system automatically doing what you are asking how to
  do.  Since the process is spending so much time waiting for data to
  swap in/out, the kernel lowers the priority (lower priority # on Unix
  systems means the process has a higher priority) so the process will
  be the first into the run queue when it has it's data.  However, it
  can't run when it doesn't have the data it needs, and swapping takes
  time.
 
   In Windows XP, which has less per-task resource restriction (I guess?), I
   did successfully complete the task on the same hardware machine; although
  it
   takes more than 30 mins.
 
  Did you lower the per-process limit on XP to match what you did on FreeBSD?
  If not, then why are you trying to compare apples to elephants?
 
   How can I push up the priority of the whole paging task?
 
  If you want to change the priority of the paging task, you'll need to
  hack the kernel.
 
   How can I
   allocate more CPU attention to this process? I've tried using nice
   but it does not help.
 
  nice is the correct command to allocate more CPU attention to the process.
  However, the process can't use the CPU if it doesn't have it's data in
  memory.
 
  --
  Bill Moran
  Potential Technologies
  http://www.potentialtech.com
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Re: Help?

[Bill Moran]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 how about one of the LiveCDs? or don't they work like knoppix/ubuntu
 auto configuring the most important hardware ( inputdevices, audio,
 video ) ?

This sidesteps the point.  If he doesn't have time to deal with hardware
issues, does he have time to deal with software issues and a learnig curve?

I'm not disagreeing with you.  Live CDs are a great way to get ones feet
wet with a new OS, and I highly recommend FreeSBIE as a way to introduce
yourself to FreeBSD without making any commitment.  You still need time
to experiment, however.

 On 4/6/06, eoghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
   On 2006-04-06 09:49, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I
   have a home workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do
   more with, but don't want to give MS any more Hundreds of hard
   earned dollars.
  
   My first question is where can I find a site that will list
   all approved or thoroughly checked out hardware to build a
   box (motherboards, and the like).  I don't have the time, or
   patience to get into major software conflicts or bugs. I want
   to follow a A to B to C box build and software setup. Is there
   someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there a
   website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there
   a BSD for idiots instruction book that's current? Is there a
   BSD project team working with manufactures and touting their
   successes?  Help!
   Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on
   this list, but you've said a number of things that tell me that
   you will be unsuccessful with FreeBSD:
   1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
   2) You're coming from a Windows world
   3) You don't have time or patience
  
   #3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_
   take you some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and
   effort to get it working the way you want.  Since you are
   totally new to it, it _will_ require patience.
  
   If you don't have time or patience to learn right now, you're
   setting yourself up for failure.  When you do have some time
   and patience, we'll be happy to help you through your learning
   curve.  If you're looking for a fast, easy fix, you're not
   going to find it by switching operating systems to something
   you know nothing about.
  
   I've seen a number of people bash Linux and the BSDs because
   they wanted a simple, cheap solution to Windows and did not
   have the time or patience to work through the learning curve.
   Unless I've misinterpreted your email and you do have some Unix
   experience, this is not a good time to make the switch.
  
   No, this post shouldn't be unpopular on this list.
  
 * It was written in a clear, non-confrontational, civilized tone.
 * It explains why making the switch to FreeBSD may turn out badly.
 * It also makes it very clear that time and effort _is_ required.
  
   Tom, please read carefully what Bill Moran has written.  Even if
   I tried, I would probably fail to put it all in better words.
  
   Then, if you decide that you _have_ the patience and time to
   switch, feel free to ask any question about FreeBSD here :)
  
   - Giorgos
 
  Yes, I agree. Although I had the luxury of having two machines, the
  other being a mac, so I could play with unix on that. I also dumped
  windows on my pc and decided on freeBSD. At first, I had trouble
  installing and configuring it. But with some time and this list I am up
  and running and get more and more comfortable with it each day.
  So if you have a spare pc lying around, try it out on this first till
  you get comfortable, and then go for it.
  Eoghan
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Re: Help?

[usleepless]

i guess you are right.

i just wanted to bring it up, it should be mentioned in my opinion.
maybe it saves a soul.

regards,

usleep



On 4/6/06, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  how about one of the LiveCDs? or don't they work like knoppix/ubuntu
  auto configuring the most important hardware ( inputdevices, audio,
  video ) ?

 This sidesteps the point.  If he doesn't have time to deal with hardware
 issues, does he have time to deal with software issues and a learnig curve?

 I'm not disagreeing with you.  Live CDs are a great way to get ones feet
 wet with a new OS, and I highly recommend FreeSBIE as a way to introduce
 yourself to FreeBSD without making any commitment.  You still need time
 to experiment, however.

  On 4/6/06, eoghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
On 2006-04-06 09:49, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I
have a home workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do
more with, but don't want to give MS any more Hundreds of hard
earned dollars.
   
My first question is where can I find a site that will list
all approved or thoroughly checked out hardware to build a
box (motherboards, and the like).  I don't have the time, or
patience to get into major software conflicts or bugs. I want
to follow a A to B to C box build and software setup. Is there
someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there a
website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there
a BSD for idiots instruction book that's current? Is there a
BSD project team working with manufactures and touting their
successes?  Help!
Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on
this list, but you've said a number of things that tell me that
you will be unsuccessful with FreeBSD:
1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
2) You're coming from a Windows world
3) You don't have time or patience
   
#3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_
take you some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and
effort to get it working the way you want.  Since you are
totally new to it, it _will_ require patience.
   
If you don't have time or patience to learn right now, you're
setting yourself up for failure.  When you do have some time
and patience, we'll be happy to help you through your learning
curve.  If you're looking for a fast, easy fix, you're not
going to find it by switching operating systems to something
you know nothing about.
   
I've seen a number of people bash Linux and the BSDs because
they wanted a simple, cheap solution to Windows and did not
have the time or patience to work through the learning curve.
Unless I've misinterpreted your email and you do have some Unix
experience, this is not a good time to make the switch.
   
No, this post shouldn't be unpopular on this list.
   
  * It was written in a clear, non-confrontational, civilized tone.
  * It explains why making the switch to FreeBSD may turn out badly.
  * It also makes it very clear that time and effort _is_ required.
   
Tom, please read carefully what Bill Moran has written.  Even if
I tried, I would probably fail to put it all in better words.
   
Then, if you decide that you _have_ the patience and time to
switch, feel free to ask any question about FreeBSD here :)
   
- Giorgos
  
   Yes, I agree. Although I had the luxury of having two machines, the
   other being a mac, so I could play with unix on that. I also dumped
   windows on my pc and decided on freeBSD. At first, I had trouble
   installing and configuring it. But with some time and this list I am up
   and running and get more and more comfortable with it each day.
   So if you have a spare pc lying around, try it out on this first till
   you get comfortable, and then go for it.
   Eoghan
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Re: Help?

[Paul Schmehl]

Bill Moran wrote:


Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on this list, but
you've said a number of things that tell me that you will be unsuccessful
with FreeBSD:
1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
2) You're coming from a Windows world
3) You don't have time or patience

#3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_ take you
some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and effort to get it
working the way you want.  Since you are totally new to it, it _will_
require patience.

I'm going to second that.  The biggest shock of moving to Unix is when 
you realize there isn't any GUI until you set one up.  (That's not so 
true on many of the Linuxes anymore.)  If you're serious about moving to 
Unix but you don't have the patience and time to learn, download Knoppix 
and use it for a while.  Once you're more familiar with how things work, 
then you can dive in to the details.


In the Windows world you're used to things like Flash and Java and Media 
Player just working in your browser, printing just working, etc., 
etc..  Not true in FreeBSD.  Even the GUI itself doesn't just work. 
You have to be able to troubleshoot and determine the causes of 
problems, and sometimes that can take a  while


If you have the patience and the time, then by all means, jump right in, 
but don't expect to be surfing the web on your first day.


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Re: FreeBSD hangs at boot

[usleepless]

Daniel,

the only thing i can think of at the moment is go on removing
hardware. remove the cd, the slave-hd etc.

i can understand if you are not happy about it, it is your decision.

regards,

usleep

On 4/6/06, Daniel A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi.
 I am trying to get FreeBSD 6.0 running on my desktop machine, but with no
 luck.
 When I boot in anything but Safe Mode, FreeBSD will hang at boot and
 refuse to go further. I've tried to let have a go at it for 30
 minutes, but the boot process didnt get any further.

 When I try to boot the machine normally, it freezes at the following point:
 [...]
 ad0: 76319MB Seagate ST380021A 3.19 at ata0-master PIO4
 ad1: 76319MB Seagate ST380021A 3.19 at ata0-slave PIO4
 acd0: DVDR PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A/1.01 at ata1-master PIO4
 ad8: 114473MB Seagate ST3120022A 3.06 at ata4-master PIO4

 The ad8 device is attached to my onboard Promise PDC20376 SATA150
 controller, but even if I disable that device in BIOS, the system
 then freezes after displaying:
 acd0: DVDR PLEXTOR DVDR PX-740A/1.01 at ata1-master PIO4

 Attached is the dmesg.boot I get when the SATA RAID controller is
 enabled and I boot in safe mode.


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Re: FreeBSD hangs at boot

[usleepless]

Giorgios, i did it again!

sorry!

regards,

usleep
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Re: Help?

[Jerry McAllister]

 
 I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I have a home
 workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do more with, but don't want
 to give MS any more Hundreds of hard earned dollars.
 
 My first question is where can I find a site that will list all approved or
 thoroughly checked out hardware to build a box (motherboards, and the
 like).  I don't have the time, or patience to get into major software
 conflicts or bugs. I want to follow a A to B to C box build and software
 setup. Is there someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there
 a website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there a BSD for
 idiots instruction book that's current? Is there a BSD project team working
 with manufactures and touting their successes?  Help!

FreeBSD is a good choice.

For information on hardware that runs FreeBSD, go to the FreeBSD web site
and look under release information or latest releases.   You will find a
short (currently 2) list of currently supported releases.  Under each
you will find a link to hardware notes.  Choose this and then choose the
type of system - probably i386 - and you will see a list of hardware
known to work on that version.  

As far as 'approved' goes, since this is a volunteer created and supported
system and the copyrights allow people to do pretty much what they want
with it, there is no formal approval process.   The support process consists
of trying what hardware that is available out and if it runs, then it
is considered supported.  There is a suit of things that is run on the 
hardware that is available to the developers to make sure it runs OK.  Of 
course, the volunteer developers and the very large user community actually 
use it as their own systems as well, so together they give it a broad and 
rigorous workout.

As far as step by step installation, the handbook is your friend.  
It does take things pretty much step by step.   But, it is not as
straightforward as click on install and come back in two hours.
One of the best advantages of FreeBSD (after functionality, reliability, 
and security) is that you really can make it how you want it.  But
that comes with the requirement that you have to make a number of
decisions about how to configure things.   Some of those are how to
divide the disk (and even if you want to have both FreeBSD and some 
other OS - yes, including possibly MSxxx - on the same machine), which
services you wish to run, such as web server, compilers, interpreters,
data base utilities, Email, proxies, etc, what sort of desktop 
environment you want and how tightly or loosly to secure the system,
even which games you want on the system.

Because those choices are completely open to you, installation requires
some hands on work and that requires some pre-installation study and 
thought and preparation.   Actually, after you have used FreeBSD a while
and have a reasonable handle on your own needs and preferences, these
choices become rather routine and you can run right through an installation.
But the first couple of times will take some thought, work and patience
as well as learning about a new type of environment and set of commands.

The handbook, along with the man pages and some online publications such as
Onlamp.com and others are very good in leading you through these things.   

There are several published books available they tend to follow the handbook 
as far as the technical information goes and add some more general background.
They also tend to add the authors own preferences and prejudices as to what 
choices to make.  That is very good background and frame of reference 
information, and is worth the price of the books, but you should keep in
mind that it is generally not the final word as far as what you want your 
machine to be.

The most controversial choices (those that get the most heated support
for personal choices) seem often to be: how to divide the disk, which
desktop to use and which Email MTA to use.   People seem to be willing
to fight to the death over their choices, but the truth is that each
of the choices works well for some and not for others.  I have posted my 
disk layouts with my reasons several times.  I would suggest you start
with Sendmail since it is the default and only change if and when you
find you need something else.  My desktop is simple.  I just use AfterStep
because I don't like or need all the extra junk that comes with some of 
the fancier ones.  I also think mostly starting with defaults and/or the
simpler ways and only moving on when you discover the need is the most
useful path to system management enlightenment.

So, good luck and welcome to FreeBSD,

jerry

 
 Thank You
 
 Tom
 
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Re: Linksys EG1032 support

[Ashley Moran]

On Wednesday 05 April 2006 18:43, Benjamin Lutz wrote:
 Hello Ashley,

 On Wednesday 05 April 2006 17:08, Ashley Moran wrote:
  I've tested the 6.1-BETA4 CD and that supports the card.  I forgot my
  desktop actually runs a very old 6-STABLE, so the Linksys card v3 support
  must have been added a few weeks after 6.0 was released.  I'll just run
  the onboard ethernet until 6.1 comes out - whenever that may be

 Yes, the EG1032 v3 cards are pretty new. And Linksys changed the card
 completely without changing it's name. I've had the same issue a few months
 ago. If you want to run 6.0 for now, this will probably help you:
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=freebsd-currentm=112851499907268w=2

 Cheers
 Benjamin


Cheers thanks for pointing me to that.  I just rebuilt a new server with the 
patch and it's working fine.

I wish the bloody manufacturers wouldn't go branding different products with 
identical names!!!

Ashley
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Re: Switch from SATA-RAID to gmirror?

[Ashley Moran]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 12:13, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 i think - just YES. no problem

Wojciech

You were right to have faith!  It went perfectly and the server is now up on 
gmirror.  Only took 90 mins or so to rebuilt a 200GB disk too.

I've got to say this gmirror thing is scarily easy to set up.  I just hope 
when/if one of the disks die it will carry on running!

Ashley
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Re: understanding of make.conf

[Beat Siegenthaler]

Lowell Gilbert wrote:

 
 Did you have any reason to think that would work?
 I would expect the syntax to be more like
 CONFIGURE_ARGS+=  --enable-TRIMTSIP 

makes sense, I think this could really work...


Thanks

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Re: cron question

[RW]

On Wednesday 05 April 2006 01:32, Kevin Kinsey wrote:

 And furthermore, you edited /etc/crontab or something similar
 instead of using crontab(1) to edit /var/cron/tabs/root.  Nitpicky,
 to be sure, but the cause of many a heartache:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/admin.html#ROOT-NOT-FOUND-CRON-ERRO
RS


The FAQ entry is about the mistake of using the crontab utility to install the 
system crontab (or a copy) as root's user crontab ( This is not helped by the 
fact that /etc/crontab refers to itself as root's crontab ). 

There is no such problem with simply editing  /etc/crontab - it's the more 
straightforward approach.
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Re: FAX software ?

[usleepless]

Hi Igor,

  Hi,
 
Try hylafax.
 mgetty+sendfax is much easier to tune.

exactly what needs tuning? ( if you are not in the mass-faxing-business )

regards,

usleep
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Re: pkg_add problem

[Kris Kennaway]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 06:22:17AM -0700, serguey ogoltsoff wrote:
 When I tried to pkg_add make-3.79.1 the attempt failed
 --NO RECORD.
 My try to copy the file via
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.3-release/Latest/make-3.79.1.tbz
 
 was also a failure.
 Then I sifted all http://ftps mirrored in A2.FTP Sites
 and found out that no one of them
 contains'5.3-release'.
 How can I get make-3.79.1.tbz please?

You will have to either

1a) Use a mirror that still carries old packages (see
http://mirrorlist.freebsd.org for a start), and
 
1b) Use the correct filename (it's not called make)

2) build the port yourself (gmake is quick to compile)

3) Update to 6.1 which will carry packages on all mirrors for quite a
while.

Kris


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Re: linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden

[Kris Kennaway]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:20:12AM -0400, Peter wrote:
 Anyone know how to install flash6 on FreeBSD 5.4?  This is what I get
 when I try to install the port:
 
 -
 ===  linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden:
 http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/83421018-b3ef-11da-a32d-000c6ec775d9.html.
 *** Error code 1
 
 Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin6.
 -
 
 The URL suggests to install flash7 or flash8 but I heard that these
 versions are unstable and frequently crash firefox (I'm using 1.5.0.1).

If you don't mind the security vulnerabilities specified, then comment
out the forbidden tag from the makefile.

Kris


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Re: RESOLVED : Low perf of i386 6.0 on dell poweredge 1850 bi-Xeon2.8ghzDualCore

[Kris Kennaway]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 12:29:33PM +0200, Eric wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm comming back with solution to my problem.
 In fact solution was to disable any cache on perc4 controller. I do this at 
 the beginning but with perc4 controller it doesn't seems to be effective 
 unless you delete everything and put good configuration when creating the 
 logical drive and on more time in configuration mode.
 Difference for high msql utilisation is server running near two time 
 quickly.
 Still don't know why it was so more visible with smp.
 For information perc4 configuration is :
 
 On creation and on configuration :  Write Policy -- Writethru
 Read Policy -- 
 non-adaptive

Weird, but glad to hear you got it resolved.

Kris


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Re: pkg_add problem

[Kent Stewart]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 06:22, serguey ogoltsoff wrote:
 When I tried to pkg_add make-3.79.1 the attempt failed
 --NO RECORD.
 My try to copy the file via
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.3-release/Lat
est/make-3.79.1.tbz

 was also a failure.
 Then I sifted all http://ftps mirrored in A2.FTP Sites
 and found out that no one of them
 contains'5.3-release'.
 How can I get make-3.79.1.tbz please?


Add to your .cshrc for root
setenv PACKAGESITE 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/Latest/

That is all one line but kmail is folding it. Also, the 5.5-release is 
at
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.5-release/Latest/

I didn't check to see which set of packages are more recent. I leave 
that to you to do. It is the kind of process you need to be aware of 
and use the most recent set of builds. Once the 5.5-release is 
finished, the stable set will provide the set closest to what you will 
find after cvsuping ports-all.

Kent

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Re: Using javavmwrapper

[Greg Lewis]

On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 03:28:26PM -0500, Jeff Cross wrote:
 Can anyone give me some guidance in using javavmwrapper?  I have
 searched high and low (I know someone will post the link I have
 overlooked) but can't seem to find any detailed information on how to
 use it. I understand that there are some environment variables I can use
 to choose between different VMs (linux-sun-jdk-1.4.2, jdk-1.4.2, and
 jdk-1.5.0) but I can't seem to locate anything.

Try 'man javavm'.

 Also, does it only help when compiling ports that use Java or will it
 work to run an application with a different VM?

Its primary purpose is to run applications with different VMs.

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Re: jdk15 on 6.0

[james g.]

After several failed attempts at the package route, this was  
certainly a welcome surprise:


http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml

Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions!

-james

On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:55 PM, james g. wrote:

Thanks everyone for the tips. I'm going to give the package route a  
shot, as the additional swap space just isn't cutting it.


Cheers,
James

On Apr 3, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Jon Brisbin wrote:


Anish Mistry wrote:


You could always just to do a make package on another machine  
with 6.0 and then just pkg_add on your older system.




This is what I did when I installed JDK 1.5 on our BSD boxes.

It sounds like, with so little physical RAM, that the JVM is only  
allocating a very small percentage of that to the JVM that starts  
up when the build gets bootstrapped. The jvmg probably needs to be  
manually set using an -Xms/-Xmx value that will give it enough  
room to work with.


To the JVM, swap space isn't the same as physical RAM. I have had  
problems running java applications that have to swap. With Java,  
physical RAM is crucial. If you could even put at least 512MB in  
that box just for the build, then take it out to run it, you would  
probably succeed. Barring that, you're next best bet is probably  
going to be building it on another box, then doing a pkg_add.


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Thanks!

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Re: ipfw and ssh

[RW]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 02:50, Anthony M. Agelastos wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 Allow me to preface my problem by saying that I am very ignorant when
 it comes to networking. I do apologize if this is trivial. In any
 event, I enabled the client ifpw firewall located in /etc/
 rc.firewall. This appears to work well for my needs... except for one
 additional item. I need someone outside of my network to have SSH
 access to my machine. I know his/her IP address. So, I have added
 some additional items to rc.firewall for this. Here is what I added.

  # Allow person SSH access
  mip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
  ${fwcmd} allow tcp from any to any 22 out setup keep-state
  ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from ${mip} to me 22 setup limit src-
 addr 2

The client script is setup to handle tcp by static rules. If you want to mix 
static and dynamic tcp rules (ie limits)  you will need to add  a check-state 
line before the comment: Allow TCP through if setup succeeded otherwise 
your dynamic rules will never see any established traffic and will timeout.  
Also there is a static rule already  to allow all outgoing tcp connections, 
so you don't need a stateful one for port 22.

However, none of the above should prevent an ssh login. 

If I were you I'd start with just: 

${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to any ssh setup

and work from there. You need to be methodical when troubleshooting firewalls.




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Re: Help? (unix as windoze replacement)

[wc_fbsd]

At 09:49 AM 4/6/2006, you wrote:
Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on this 
list, but you've said a number of things that tell me that you will 
be unsuccessful with FreeBSD:


Unpopular, perhaps.  But good advice.  If you're looking for a nearly 
effortless desktop unix, you might try Mepis Linux 
http://www.mepis.org/  It's designed to be what you seem to be 
looking for (a turn-key graphic desktop OS.)  Runs or loads directly 
from CD;  comes with browser, email, printing, OpenOffice, etc.


   -Wayne

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Re: linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden

[Peter]

--- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:20:12AM -0400, Peter wrote:
  Anyone know how to install flash6 on FreeBSD 5.4?  This is what I
 get
  when I try to install the port:
  
  -
  ===  linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden:
  http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/83421018-b3ef-11da-a32d-000c6ec775d9.html.
  *** Error code 1
  
  Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin6.
  -
  
  The URL suggests to install flash7 or flash8 but I heard that these
  versions are unstable and frequently crash firefox (I'm using
 1.5.0.1).
 
 If you don't mind the security vulnerabilities specified, then
 comment out the forbidden tag from the makefile.

Well I decided to install linux-flashplugin7 and I followed the
instructions inside linuxpluginwrapper (install a patch) and I got an
error:

# patch  patch-rtld.c
Hmm...  Looks like a unified diff to me...
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c.orig   Fri Sep 24 08:04:52 2004
|+++ libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.cSun Oct 17 03:37:44 2004
--
Patching file libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c using Plan A...
Hunk #1 failed at 129.
Hunk #2 failed at 178.
Hunk #3 failed at 1738.
3 out of 3 hunks failed--saving rejects to libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c.rej
done

Any ideas?

p.s. Why is installing Flash so hard?

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Re: ipfw and ssh

[RW]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 03:27, Anthony M. Agelastos wrote:

 What is the easiest way of making changes to the firewall rules and
 applying them so I do not have to reboot each time? I assume a
 kldunload ipfw.ko and then a kldload ipfw.ko should do it, but I
 don't want to risk doing something incorrect while I am trying to
 debug my current problem.

/etc/rc.d/ipfw restart

and watch out for any error messages
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NAT, VPN and other SOHO router advice

[Nick Stenning]

Dear all,

I'm currently in the process of jiggling around my SOHO router and a
FreeBSD box that I'd like to make more of a router. As it stands
currently, the setup is something like this (I hope you've reading
this in monospace or it's gonna be a like reading a circuit diagram on
a rollercoaster)

 ( ... )
(( Ye bigge badde interweb ))
 ( ... )
 ||
 ||
   ++
   | Vigor 2600 | [10.0.0.2]
   ++
  |  |   +--+
  |  |  **   |  |
  rl1 |  +---|  S   |-...
   +-+   |  W   |
   |  F  |   |  I   |-...
   |  B  |   |  T   |-...   The LAN!
   |  S  | rl0   |  C   |   [10.0.0.0/24]
   |  D  |---|  H   |-...
   | |   |  |
   | |   |  |-...
   +-+   +--+
  [10.0.0.1]

Now, the more experiencef of you will immediately notice something is
wrong ... yes, that's right, the cable marked with the ** shouldn't
really be there. In fact, my syslog really wants me to know that
something's wrong:

Apr  6 19:04:22 phoenix kernel: arp: 10.0.0.2 is on rl0 but got reply
from 00:53:7f:74:f4:f3 on rl1

Now, I'm well aware of why that's happening, and I mostly know how to
fix it, but I need a little help with a few remaining issues.

First, NAT'ing. Currently the Vigor router (10.0.0.2) is the default
router for the network, as specified by the FBSD box's DHCP server. If
I disconnect the cable I want to disconnect, however, obviously the
FBSD box will have to be the router. Now, I've recompiled my kernel
with all the relevant options, and I've got an extensive firewall
script (ipfw). I've also got the following in my rc.conf:

firewall_enable=YES
firewall_script=/etc/ipfw.rules
firewall_logging=YES

natd_enable=YES
natd_interface=rl1
gateway_enable=YES

rl1, by the way, has a public IP block on it, and the vigor router has
one of these, let's call it xx.yy.zz.201. On the FBSD box (in rc.conf)
we have:

defaultrouter=xx.yy.zz.201
ifconfig_rl0=inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig_rl1=inet xx.yy.zz.202 netmask 255.255.255.248
ifconfig_rl1_alias0=xx.yy.zz.203/29
...

So, really, the question for this bit of the email is .. what else do
I need to get my FBSD box acting as a router for the machines on the
LAN? .. I assume I'd need an IPFW divert rule to set up all the
NATing, but I'm unsure what that should be, and whether it would come
before or after all the protective stuff in the firewall script etc
etc.

--

The second part of the question is perhaps slightly more complex. The
Vigor router has set up on it a LAN-to-LAN PPTP VPN (enough acronyms
for you?) to an office elsewhere. As it stands currently, machines on
the LAN can access (ping/SMB shares) a class C subnet, 192.168.1.0/24
via this VPN connecion on the Vigor router. Also, machines at the
other end of the VPN, in the office, can access machines at this end
of the VPN, on the LAN (the other class C: 10.0.0.0/24)

The question is, what IPFW divert rules and other whizbangery do I
need to set up so that I can disconnect that cable marked ** and have
all the VPN stuff keep working. If at all possible, I'd rather not
move the management of the VPN onto the FBSD box.

--

OK. So that's that. I appreciate any and all responses, and if anyone
needs any more information I will be happy to provide it ... so long
as it's not my root password ... actually, come to think of it, that
wouldn't help unless you were sitting next to me, but nevermind...

Regards,
Nick Stenning
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run_rc_command and redirect stdout

[Miguel]

Hi, what are the alternatives to redirect stdout from a process started 
using run_rc_command, only


21 /tmp/xxx ?

---
miguel

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Re: linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden

[Kris Kennaway]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 01:10:52PM -0400, Peter wrote:
 --- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:20:12AM -0400, Peter wrote:
   Anyone know how to install flash6 on FreeBSD 5.4?  This is what I
  get
   when I try to install the port:
   
   -
   ===  linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden:
   http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/83421018-b3ef-11da-a32d-000c6ec775d9.html.
   *** Error code 1
   
   Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin6.
   -
   
   The URL suggests to install flash7 or flash8 but I heard that these
   versions are unstable and frequently crash firefox (I'm using
  1.5.0.1).
  
  If you don't mind the security vulnerabilities specified, then
  comment out the forbidden tag from the makefile.
 
 Well I decided to install linux-flashplugin7 and I followed the
 instructions inside linuxpluginwrapper (install a patch) and I got an
 error:

Talk to the maintainer.

 # patch  patch-rtld.c
 Hmm...  Looks like a unified diff to me...
 The text leading up to this was:
 --
 |--- libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c.orig   Fri Sep 24 08:04:52 2004
 |+++ libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.cSun Oct 17 03:37:44 2004
 --
 Patching file libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c using Plan A...
 Hunk #1 failed at 129.
 Hunk #2 failed at 178.
 Hunk #3 failed at 1738.
 3 out of 3 hunks failed--saving rejects to libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c.rej
 done
 
 Any ideas?
 
 p.s. Why is installing Flash so hard?

Because the authors do not support FreeBSD, so you have to jump
through many hoops to make it work.

Kris



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Re: Switch from SATA-RAID to gmirror?

[Duane Whitty]

Ashley Moran wrote:

On Thursday 06 April 2006 12:13, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  

i think - just YES. no problem



Wojciech

You were right to have faith!  It went perfectly and the server is now up on 
gmirror.  Only took 90 mins or so to rebuilt a 200GB disk too.


I've got to say this gmirror thing is scarily easy to set up.  I just hope 
when/if one of the disks die it will carry on running!


Ashley
  

Hi Ashley,

I'm glad things worked well for you.  Faith got you this far
but how long do you want to depend upon it?

A long time ago I was tasked with the administration of some
HP-UX boxes running on K-series hardware.  I didn't setup the
hardware and I didn't do the system install but I was expected,
as the systems consultant, to give reasonable assurances that in
the case of system failure the recovery procedures would work.
As it turns out I had to also write those procedures.  After I did
so I insisted that a failure be simulated and that it be determined
whether or not we could recover our operation starting from
scratch with just our backups and system tapes.  After all, there is
no one easier to fire than a consultant and it's always the consultant's
fault :)

So my recommendation is that you simulate a disk going bad now
before it happens for real.  For instance, what happens if you unplug
the disk from the controller, or remove its power connection, etc?

Just my $0.02

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SCO OPENSERVER

[American Eye Center]

I just had a really quick question, the company I work for uses a 
software that runs on SCO Openserver 5, or later, I have read that 
Freebsd is compatible with software written for SCO OpenServer, I just 
wanted some specs as to how compatible you are, the software vendor is 
being shitty and won't say if there software will run on freebsd, they 
want us to get sco openserver(i wonder why), freebsd is far superior, 
and not to mention CHEAPER.  Thanks


Fabian
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Re: Switch from SATA-RAID to gmirror?

[Ashley Moran]

On Apr 06, 2006, at 5:35 pm, Duane Whitty wrote:


Hi Ashley,

I'm glad things worked well for you.  Faith got you this far
but how long do you want to depend upon it?

A long time ago I was tasked with the administration of some
HP-UX boxes running on K-series hardware.  I didn't setup the
hardware and I didn't do the system install but I was expected,
as the systems consultant, to give reasonable assurances that in
the case of system failure the recovery procedures would work.
As it turns out I had to also write those procedures.  After I did
so I insisted that a failure be simulated and that it be determined
whether or not we could recover our operation starting from
scratch with just our backups and system tapes.  After all, there is
no one easier to fire than a consultant and it's always the  
consultant's

fault :)

So my recommendation is that you simulate a disk going bad now
before it happens for real.  For instance, what happens if you unplug
the disk from the controller, or remove its power connection, etc?

Just my $0.02



Duane,

Your $0.02 is probably worth a lot more than that...  I'm not in a  
hurry to put things to the test but I will eventually.  Fortunately,  
we've just bought redundant servers for everything (apart from a  
Win2k3 server running SQL Server, which cost us more in licensing  
than hardware, and which we are unfortunately stuck with for the  
foreseeable future).  This server is one of them - so even if the  
whole array fails, we will have another machine to fall back on.  But  
when it's settled down, I'll pull the plug on the primary drive and  
see if it will reboot.  We have two more servers on the way destined  
to run Postgres.  We've bought them with Areca RAID 6 cards, and I  
will definitely enjoy pulling two of the drives just to see what it  
does.


Our new policy is redundant EVERYTHING in the live environment.   
Mainly this is not for the reduced protection from failure, but for  
the freedom to take servers offline for upgrades or testing.   
Currently we're in a situation where a guy's whole business depends  
on a single-disk webserver running Postgres (because it was the only  
BSD machine we had at the time), which desperately needs upgrading  
for performance tuning, but which we just can't do.


Ashley
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Re: SCO OPENSERVER

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Apr 06), American Eye Center said:
 I just had a really quick question, the company I work for uses a
 software that runs on SCO Openserver 5, or later, I have read that
 Freebsd is compatible with software written for SCO OpenServer, I
 just wanted some specs as to how compatible you are, the software
 vendor is being shitty and won't say if there software will run on
 freebsd, they want us to get sco openserver(i wonder why), freebsd is
 far superior, and not to mention CHEAPER.  Thanks

FreeBSD's ibcs emulator was actually compatible with SCO 3.2v4.2, not
OSR 5, and has since bit-rotted due to other kernel changes such that
it no longer works.  Since there is less than one request a year about
SCO emulation, it's unlikely to get enough developer attention to ever
get better :)  I'm surprised there is any software only available for
SCO anymore.  If you can get your hands on a Linux binary, FreeBSD will
run that just fine.

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Re: Help?

[Kevin Kinsey]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 4/6/06, eoghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
   


On 2006-04-06 09:49, Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   


I am just looking at Free BSD as a Windows alternative.  I
have a home workgroup that I am out growing and wanting to do
more with, but don't want to give MS any more Hundreds of hard
earned dollars.

My first question is where can I find a site that will list
all approved or thoroughly checked out hardware to build a
box (motherboards, and the like).  I don't have the time, or
patience to get into major software conflicts or bugs. I want
to follow a A to B to C box build and software setup. Is there
someone (or more) to guide me through the process? Is there a
website with complete and accurate information on it? Is there
a BSD for idiots instruction book that's current? Is there a
BSD project team working with manufactures and touting their
successes?  Help!
 


Don't use FreeBSD.  I know this will be an unpopular post on
this list, but you've said a number of things that tell me that
you will be unsuccessful with FreeBSD:
1) You don't seem to have any Unix experience
2) You're coming from a Windows world
3) You don't have time or patience

#3 is particularly important, given #1 and #2.  FreeBSD _will_
take you some time to understand.  It _will_ take some time and
effort to get it working the way you want.  Since you are
totally new to it, it _will_ require patience.

If you don't have time or patience to learn right now, you're
setting yourself up for failure.  When you do have some time
and patience, we'll be happy to help you through your learning
curve.  If you're looking for a fast, easy fix, you're not
going to find it by switching operating systems to something
you know nothing about.

I've seen a number of people bash Linux and the BSDs because
they wanted a simple, cheap solution to Windows and did not
have the time or patience to work through the learning curve.
Unless I've misinterpreted your email and you do have some Unix
experience, this is not a good time to make the switch.
   


No, this post shouldn't be unpopular on this list.

 * It was written in a clear, non-confrontational, civilized tone.
 * It explains why making the switch to FreeBSD may turn out badly.
 * It also makes it very clear that time and effort _is_ required.

Tom, please read carefully what Bill Moran has written.  Even if
I tried, I would probably fail to put it all in better words.

Then, if you decide that you _have_ the patience and time to
switch, feel free to ask any question about FreeBSD here :)

- Giorgos
 


Yes, I agree. Although I had the luxury of having two machines, the
other being a mac, so I could play with unix on that. I also dumped
windows on my pc and decided on freeBSD. At first, I had trouble
installing and configuring it. But with some time and this list I am up
and running and get more and more comfortable with it each day.
So if you have a spare pc lying around, try it out on this first till
you get comfortable, and then go for it.
Eoghan
   



usleep said:

] how about one of the LiveCDs? or don't they work like knoppix/ubuntu
] auto configuring the most important hardware ( inputdevices, audio,
] video ) ?


That *could* be a good idea.  FreesBIE's live CD would, if it would
give him a GUI mode, give him an idea of whether or not it might work
with his hardware.  Last I checked, the ISO was based on FreeBSD 5.4,
but I think a new one is on the way based on FBSD 6.x.  If everything
worked on a box he currently has Windows on, he could attempt to buy
duplicate hardware for a BSD box.

And then there are the desktop-oriented projects: PCBSD, DesktopBSD.
They would provide a more Windows like experience; however, it's still
not clear if the OP has the patience and correct goal-orientation to 
advise him to try much of the above.  If he had a means to burn ISO

images with his current equipment, and had spare equipment lying around,
then I'd suggest booting up with a Freesbie CD to play around with it;
however, it's not clear that he even has spare hardware available, but
instead wants some kind of logo testing like guarantee that whatever
he buys would be appropriate.  AFAIK, this doesn't exist, per se.  It's
clear from a perusal of various web resources that by and large FreeBSD
runs quite well on a vast array of commodity x86 hardware, and a few other
platforms, but no one has an all-encompassing list of suitable parts.  The
cost for any person or entity to do thsi would be enormous.  AFAIK, not 
even MSFT has such a list.


At this point, we might point him to any of a number of vendors that
support FreeBSD.  My company (heh-shameless, apology, argument's sake) could 
provide a box.  ixsystems.com specializes in BSD servers.  There are lots of 
people on the commercial consultant pages at the freebsd.org site that 
could do this.


My BSD experience, coming straight 

Access ip local

[EDPSB]

Dear Sir,

Iam a beginner with freebsd.
Iam using vers 4.11 fo gateway with dedicated internet.

If i want to access one of comp client (ip local) from internet ,how can i do???
Example : ip client : 192.168.1.25 port 80, 4500,4600

Is it possible to using ipfw???

Thankyou for your help.

Best Regards,

Yuda
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Re: linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden

[Paul Schmehl]

Kris Kennaway wrote:

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 01:10:52PM -0400, Peter wrote:

--- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:20:12AM -0400, Peter wrote:

Anyone know how to install flash6 on FreeBSD 5.4?  This is what I

get

when I try to install the port:

-
===  linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden:
http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/83421018-b3ef-11da-a32d-000c6ec775d9.html.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin6.
-

The URL suggests to install flash7 or flash8 but I heard that these
versions are unstable and frequently crash firefox (I'm using

1.5.0.1).

If you don't mind the security vulnerabilities specified, then
comment out the forbidden tag from the makefile.

Well I decided to install linux-flashplugin7 and I followed the
instructions inside linuxpluginwrapper (install a patch) and I got an
error:


Talk to the maintainer.

That patch installed fine on my i386/6.0 SECURITY box.  I think his is 
5.4.  Maybe there's something different about the rtld.c file on that distro


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Re: Access ip local

[Andy Reitz]

On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, EDPSB wrote:

 Dear Sir,

 Iam a beginner with freebsd.
 Iam using vers 4.11 fo gateway with dedicated internet.

 If i want to access one of comp client (ip local) from internet ,how can i 
 do???
 Example : ip client : 192.168.1.25 port 80, 4500,4600

 Is it possible to using ipfw???

Hello Yuda,

If I understand you correctly, you would like to configure your
FreeBSD machine in such a way that it allows clients on the private
network to get access to the Internet. You can definitely do this (it
is what I do at home), and FreeBSD is a wonderful system to use for
such a purpose.

Along with ipfw, you will also need to use natd. The relevant selections
from the handbook that you will want to read are:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-routing.html

and

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-natd.html

Good luck,
-Andy Reitz.

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Re: NAT, VPN and other SOHO router advice

[Andy Reitz]

On Thu, 6 Apr 2006, Nick Stenning wrote:

[snip]
 First, NAT'ing. Currently the Vigor router (10.0.0.2) is the default
 router for the network, as specified by the FBSD box's DHCP server. If
 I disconnect the cable I want to disconnect, however, obviously the
 FBSD box will have to be the router. Now, I've recompiled my kernel
 with all the relevant options, and I've got an extensive firewall
 script (ipfw). I've also got the following in my rc.conf:

 firewall_enable=YES
 firewall_script=/etc/ipfw.rules
 firewall_logging=YES

 natd_enable=YES
 natd_interface=rl1
 gateway_enable=YES

 rl1, by the way, has a public IP block on it, and the vigor router has
 one of these, let's call it xx.yy.zz.201. On the FBSD box (in rc.conf)
 we have:

 defaultrouter=xx.yy.zz.201
 ifconfig_rl0=inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
 ifconfig_rl1=inet xx.yy.zz.202 netmask 255.255.255.248
 ifconfig_rl1_alias0=xx.yy.zz.203/29
 ...

 So, really, the question for this bit of the email is .. what else do
 I need to get my FBSD box acting as a router for the machines on the
 LAN? .. I assume I'd need an IPFW divert rule to set up all the
 NATing, but I'm unsure what that should be, and whether it would come
 before or after all the protective stuff in the firewall script etc
 etc.

Hi Nick,

It looks to me like you are on the right track. The only other option that
I have in my rc.conf is:

natd_flags=-config /etc/natd.conf

This forces natd to read my configuration file. I think in normal
operations, natd will pretty-much do the right thing, but you might want
to customize yours like I have mine. Here are some statements that I have
in my natd.conf:

dynamic yes
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
log no
log_denied yes
log_ipfw_denied yes

In terms of the divert rule, mine looks like this:

/sbin/ipfw add 50 divert natd all from any to any via fxp0

You'll want to replace 'fxp0' with your external interface, in this case,
'rl1'.

On FreeBSD 6, the /etc/rc.firewall script will automatically add the
proper divert rule if you set the firewall_type to be either open or
client in rc.conf.

Good luck,
-Andy Reitz.
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web server attack

[fbsd_user]

Posted this at 11am and now its 5:30pm and still have not seen this
post return from the list mailer. So posting it again.

In my httpd-access.log I have started receiving a lot of these.
Looks like some kind of attack to me.

This first showed up in my log on April fools day 4/1/06 and
get 4 per hour since then.

The IP address changes every time I add it to firewall rules to
block.

Does anyone know what this is and what I can do to stop it
besides adding the ip address to my firewall block rules?


218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:25 -0400]
\x04\x01 200 0 - -
218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:45 -0400]
\x05\x01 200 0 - -
218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:45 -0400]
CONNECT 4.79.181.15:25 HTTP/1.1 200 7014 - -
218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:46 -0400]
GET http://www.ebay.com/ HTTP/1.1 200 7014 - Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98)

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Re: FreeBSD stickers

[Chris Hill]

On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Alex Zbyslaw wrote:


Ashley Moran wrote:


and 10 Linux Inside badges for our less-enlightened network admin :)


For superior enlightenment, attach with a nail to the forehead :-)


Wow, nice Tom Waits reference  :^)


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Re: NAT, VPN and other SOHO router advice

[Chuck Swiger]

Nick Stenning wrote:
[ ... ]

The second part of the question is perhaps slightly more complex. The
Vigor router has set up on it a LAN-to-LAN PPTP VPN (enough acronyms
for you?) to an office elsewhere. As it stands currently, machines on
the LAN can access (ping/SMB shares) a class C subnet, 192.168.1.0/24
via this VPN connecion on the Vigor router. Also, machines at the
other end of the VPN, in the office, can access machines at this end
of the VPN, on the LAN (the other class C: 10.0.0.0/24)

The question is, what IPFW divert rules and other whizbangery do I
need to set up so that I can disconnect that cable marked ** and have
all the VPN stuff keep working. If at all possible, I'd rather not
move the management of the VPN onto the FBSD box.


Given what you've said, you should set up the FreeBSD machine as a bridge 
rather than a router.


It's possible to do other things, such as changing the NAT address range 
used by rl1 and your Vigor 2600, yet also set up NAT on the FreeBSD machine, 
including GRE passthrough and PPTP in /etc/natd.conf, but that would be 
evil, hard to debug, and otherwise tempting the fates.  :-)


# NATD configuration options
dynamic yes
interface rl1
#log yes
log_denied yes
use_sockets yes
same_ports yes
unregistered_only yes
#punch_fw 1:100
redirect_proto gre 10.1.1.2
redirect_port udp 10.1.1.2:500 500
redirect_port udp 10.1.1.2:4500 4500
redirect_port udp 10.1.1.2:62515 62515
redirect_port tcp 10.1.1.2:1 1
redirect_port tcp 10.1.1.2:pptp pptp

# The above rules allow passthrough for the Cisco VPN software, and should 
also work with SonicWall's VPN client.  OpenVPN uses just a single UDP port, 
and would be very easy to set up on FreeBSD if you liked.


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Re: web server attack

[Chuck Swiger]

fbsd_user wrote:
[ ... ]

Does anyone know what this is and what I can do to stop it
besides adding the ip address to my firewall block rules?


I suppose that someone is trying to exploit mod_proxy to connect to an SMTP 
server (that's the CONNECT 4.79.181.15:25 part), or at least get HTTP 
replies back.


Make sure you don't have mod_proxy enabled in Apache


218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:25 -0400]
\x04\x01 200 0 - -
218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:45 -0400]
\x05\x01 200 0 - -
218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:45 -0400]
CONNECT 4.79.181.15:25 HTTP/1.1 200 7014 - -
218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:46 -0400]
GET http://www.ebay.com/ HTTP/1.1 200 7014 - Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98)


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Re: NAT, VPN and other SOHO router advice

[Nick Stenning]

On 4/6/06, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Given what you've said, you should set up the FreeBSD machine as a bridge
 rather than a router.

 It's possible to do other things, such as changing the NAT address range
 used by rl1 and your Vigor 2600, yet also set up NAT on the FreeBSD machine,
 including GRE passthrough and PPTP in /etc/natd.conf, but that would be
 evil, hard to debug, and otherwise tempting the fates.  :-)

 # NATD configuration options
 dynamic yes
 interface rl1
 #log yes
 log_denied yes
 use_sockets yes
 same_ports yes
 unregistered_only yes
 #punch_fw 1:100
 redirect_proto gre 10.1.1.2
 redirect_port udp 10.1.1.2:500 500
 redirect_port udp 10.1.1.2:4500 4500
 redirect_port udp 10.1.1.2:62515 62515
 redirect_port tcp 10.1.1.2:1 1
 redirect_port tcp 10.1.1.2:pptp pptp

 # The above rules allow passthrough for the Cisco VPN software, and should
 also work with SonicWall's VPN client.  OpenVPN uses just a single UDP port,
 and would be very easy to set up on FreeBSD if you liked.

 --
 -Chuck


Thanks to both of you for all your input .. its a great help!

Chuck -- since you appear to have given me the config options for
something that's evil, hard to debug, and otherwise tempting the
fates, would you mind explaining how to set up the FBSD box as a
bridge?

Or perhaps I'm missing something ... is that what that config is for?
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Re: ipfw and ssh

[Ean Kingston]

Okay Anthony, 

Here is a bit more detail on your IPFW setup. Here is the section of 
rc.firewall that is relevant what we've discussed. View this in HTML mode if 
you can. I've highlighted changes in red and my own comments in blue. I also 
noticed that you use a Netgear router in your setup. You need to make sure that 
you pass port 22 inbound connections through  your netgear router to your 
Freebsd system. That would be a setup on your netgear system.

# set these to your network and netmask and ip
net=192.0.2.0 # This should be set to your internal network's address
# Most home firewalls and routers use 192.168.1.0
mask=255.255.255.0# This should be your internal network's 
netmask.
# Most home firewalls and routers use 255.255.255.0
ip=192.0.2.1  # This should be your local machines IP address.
# If you are using DHCP to assign an address to your 
system, this will not work as written. Fortunately, IPFW now supports the 
meta-address 'me', which resolves to all your local addresses.

setup_loopback

# Allow any traffic to or from my own net. This allows all computers on 
your network to talk to your computer without any restrictions.
${fwcmd} add pass all from ${ip} to ${net}:${mask}
${fwcmd} add pass all from ${net}:${mask} to ${ip}

# Allow TCP through if setup succeeded. This allows any existing TCP 
connections to work. This way you only need one rule (setup) for each inbound 
service you want.
${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to any established

# Allow IP fragments to pass through
${fwcmd} add pass all from any to any frag

# Allow setup of incoming email. This one allows outside systems to 
send e-mail to your system. If you aren't running a mail server you may want to 
remove this line. This is also the line we are going to copy to allow your ssh 
server to work.
${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${ip} 25 setup

# Allow inbound connections to my ssh server. This will allow anyone 
access to my system through SSH provided they can authenticate.
${fwcmd} add pass tcp from any to ${ip} 22 setup

# Allow setup of outgoing TCP connections only. This is what lets you 
initiate sessions with other systems (like http, and ssh)
${fwcmd} add pass tcp from ${ip} to any setup

# Disallow setup of all other TCP connections. If you put any TCP stuff 
after this it won't work because this line prevents all further TCP rules from 
being applied.
${fwcmd} add deny tcp from any to any setup

# Allow DNS queries out in the world
${fwcmd} add pass udp from ${ip} to any 53 keep-state

# Allow NTP queries out in the world
${fwcmd} add pass udp from ${ip} to any 123 keep-state

# Everything else is denied by default, unless the
# IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT option is set in your kernel
# config file.

On Wednesday 05 April 2006 22:27, Anthony M. Agelastos wrote:
 Thank you for your very prompt reply. I tried your suggestion and it
 didn't work. I do not know why. Is the location where I place this in
 the client profile important?

 I have also tried the person's actual IP address as well as the IP
 address of the router (just in case it is not doing something weird)
 to no avail.

 What is the easiest way of making changes to the firewall rules and
 applying them so I do not have to reboot each time? I assume a
 kldunload ipfw.ko and then a kldload ipfw.ko should do it, but I
 don't want to risk doing something incorrect while I am trying to
 debug my current problem.

 On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Ean Kingston wrote:
  You neglected to include the 'add' in your first fwcmd.
 
  You may want to try something simple to start with. I haven't used
  ipfw in a
  while so hopefully my syntax is still good. Here is a simple
  starting point:
 
  # Allow person SSH access
  mip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx   # IP Address of person
  ${fwcmd} add allow tcp from ${mip} to me 22 in  # allow connection
  to ssh
  ${fwcmd} add allow tcp from me 22 to ${mip} out # allow me to respond
 
  I think all you really need is this:
 
  # Allow setup of incoming ssh
  ${fwcmd} add pass tcp from ${mip} to ${ip} 22 setup
 
  Since the rest of it should be taken care of by the rest of the
  'client' ipfw
  setup.
 
  On Wednesday 05 April 2006 21:50, Anthony M.Agelastos wrote:
  Hello everyone,
 
  Allow me to preface my problem by saying that I am very ignorant when
  it comes to networking. I do apologize if this is trivial. In any
  event, I enabled the client ifpw firewall located in /etc/
  rc.firewall. This appears to work well for my needs... except for one
  additional item. I need someone outside of my network to have SSH
  access to my machine. I know his/her IP address. So, I have added
  some additional items to rc.firewall for this. 

Re: linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden

[Peter]

--- Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kris Kennaway wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 01:10:52PM -0400, Peter wrote:
  --- Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:20:12AM -0400, Peter wrote:
  Anyone know how to install flash6 on FreeBSD 5.4?  This is what
 I
  get
  when I try to install the port:
 
  -
  ===  linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3 is forbidden:
 
 http://vuxml.FreeBSD.org/83421018-b3ef-11da-a32d-000c6ec775d9.html.
  *** Error code 1
 
  Stop in /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin6.
  -
 
  The URL suggests to install flash7 or flash8 but I heard that
 these
  versions are unstable and frequently crash firefox (I'm using
  1.5.0.1).
 
  If you don't mind the security vulnerabilities specified, then
  comment out the forbidden tag from the makefile.
  Well I decided to install linux-flashplugin7 and I followed the
  instructions inside linuxpluginwrapper (install a patch) and I got
 an
  error:
  
  Talk to the maintainer.
  
 That patch installed fine on my i386/6.0 SECURITY box.  I think his
 is 
 5.4.  Maybe there's something different about the rtld.c file on that
 distro

Paul.  Yes, I am on 5.4.  I thought I stated that in an earlier post
but I could be wrong.

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Re: Using Macromedia flash with native firefox

[Ean Kingston]

Thanks sort of. As your previous post mentioned, you were trying to do this 
with firefox 1.0.7 and you couldn't get it to work with firefox 1.5.

Well, I went through it anyway and still couldn't get it to work but, oddly, 
when I started putting the flash stuff back 
into /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins, I no longer needed to mess with the 
flash6.so files. So, at least it's a bit cleaner now.

I think all I had to do was to link two files so that they appear 
in /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins:

flashplayer.xpt - ../linux-flashplugin6/flashplayer.xpt
libflashplayer.so - ../linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so

On Thursday 06 April 2006 01:24, Chandan Haldar wrote:
 This mail in the freebsd list archives describes what I did to get
 firefox 1.0.7 and flash 6 working:

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=660877+665553+/usr/local/www/db
/text/2006/freebsd-questions/20060305.freebsd-questions

 Look at how I had to change MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH (towards the end).  Perhaps
 this will do the trick for you too.

 Good luck.

 Chandan

 Ean Kingston wrote:
 I've been trying to get Macromedia Flash 6 (linux-flashplayer6) to work
  with native firefox (1.5) on FreeBSD 6.0 and running into some annoying
  problems.
 
 I know I needed linuxpluginwrapper to get this to work and so installed it
 along with the linux flash plugin port. I tried several times, reviewed
  the port build notes, looked for readmes, and searched some with Google.
  I found several detailed installation instructions but none of them
  worked for me.
 
 In order to get it to work, I copied flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so
 from the linux-flashplayer6 installation directory into the
  browser_plugins directory. I took this from instructions for getting an
  older flashplayer5 to work.
 
 This at least got me to an error message (about not being able to locate
 libpthreads.so. That is one of the things that linuxpluginwrapper is
  supposed to take care of.
 
 After several more attempts at trying to resolve this, I resorted to a
  brute force method. I copied the flash6.so library that came with
 linuxpluginwrapper to the browser_plugins directory as libpthreads.so.
 
 This is a very bad solution but I got flash working.
 
 So, my question is how do I get this to work properly? For any who might
  be able to help, here is some relevant info:
 
 Installed:
 firefox-1.5.0.1,1
 linuxpluginwrapper-20051113
 linux-flashplugin-6.0r79_3
 
 messy file copies:
 flashplayer.xpt - ../linux-flashplugin6/flashplayer.xpt
 libdl.so.2 - /usr/local/lib/pluginwrapper/flash6.so
 libflashplayer.so - ../linux-flashplugin6/libflashplayer.so
 libpthread.so.0 - /usr/local/lib/pluginwrapper/flash6.so
 
 So, how do I get this to work without the messy file copy?

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Re: web server attack

[Frank Laszlo]

Chuck Swiger wrote:

fbsd_user wrote:
[ ... ]

Does anyone know what this is and what I can do to stop it
besides adding the ip address to my firewall block rules?


I suppose that someone is trying to exploit mod_proxy to connect to an 
SMTP server (that's the CONNECT 4.79.181.15:25 part), or at least 
get HTTP replies back.


Make sure you don't have mod_proxy enabled in Apache


218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:25 -0400]
\x04\x01 200 0 - -
218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:45 -0400]
\x05\x01 200 0 - -
218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:45 -0400]
CONNECT 4.79.181.15:25 HTTP/1.1 200 7014 - -
218-166-163-180.dynamic.hinet.net - - [06/Apr/2006:10:11:46 -0400]
GET http://www.ebay.com/ HTTP/1.1 200 7014 - Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 5.00; Windows 98)


Setup mod_security to block that type of request. Any chance you can 
capture some packets and send a link? I'd like to take a look at it.


-Frank
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Re: pkg_add problem

[Kris Kennaway]

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 10:13:20AM -0700, Kent Stewart wrote:
 On Thursday 06 April 2006 06:22, serguey ogoltsoff wrote:
  When I tried to pkg_add make-3.79.1 the attempt failed
  --NO RECORD.
  My try to copy the file via
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.3-release/Lat
 est/make-3.79.1.tbz
 
  was also a failure.
  Then I sifted all http://ftps mirrored in A2.FTP Sites
  and found out that no one of them
  contains'5.3-release'.
  How can I get make-3.79.1.tbz please?
 
 
 Add to your .cshrc for root
 setenv PACKAGESITE 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5-stable/Latest/
 
 That is all one line but kmail is folding it. Also, the 5.5-release is 
 at
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-5.5-release/Latest/
 
 I didn't check to see which set of packages are more recent. I leave 
 that to you to do. It is the kind of process you need to be aware of 
 and use the most recent set of builds. Once the 5.5-release is 
 finished, the stable set will provide the set closest to what you will 
 find after cvsuping ports-all.

May not run on 5.3, I don't remember if there were library changes
after then.

Kris


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Re: jdk15 on 6.0

[Mario Beltran]

james g. escribió:

After several failed attempts at the package route, this was  
certainly a welcome surprise:


http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/downloads/java.shtml



I have downloaded  diablo-jre-freebsd6-1.5.0.06.00.tbz from the link 
above, ha, by the way i have a FreeBSD 6.1 box, when i try to install it 
i got this messages:


pkg_add diablo-jre-freebsd6-1.5.0.06.00.tbz
pkg_add: could not find package xorg-libraries-6.8.2 !
pkg_add: could not find package javavmwrapper-2.0_5 !

I dont want to install  xorg- related libreries :(

what are the steps  to install java whitout X?

Does anybody know where i can find a how to?
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Re: Help?

[Daniel A.]

 So, Bill is basically (fully? !!) right.  Anyone who's looking for a BSD
 for Idiots guide doesn't yet have the temperament established to
 give BSD a fair shake.  BSD for idiots is an anachronism*, though
 I do have a copy, somewhere, of UNIX for Dummies, which apparently
 never made the Best Seller lists
Relativity.
BSD For Idiots could imply that either
a: The target audience has a past in Linux or other unices
b: The book contains a lot of explanations of why how when and who.
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