Re: how do I append a PR I submitted?

2009-06-30 Thread perryh
Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
  See subject
 It is impolite to expect someone responding to a message to
 have to go back to the subject line like this.
  See subject
 is a very inadequate and somewhat tersely offensive.   

To each his own, I guess.  In the case of a one-liner question
which is adequately asked in the Subject, some of us find it a bit
annoying to see the same question repeated as the only body line.

 It certainly does not help those with a text based Email reader 
 that does not show the subject in the included text for a response.

I'd expect it to have been reused -- prepended with Re: if it didn't
already start that way -- as the Subject: of the reply.
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Re: serial modem

2009-06-30 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:13:31 -0400, kalin m ka...@el.net wrote:
 yes the entry was wrong...   changed it. when i try to use tip i get 
 device busy. when i use cu it says connected but nothing else happens 
 and i don't see any prompts. it's like frozen. i can't type any AT 
 commands... nothing. i changed the baud rate around. all the way down to 
 9600. so now the same thing happens with tip. if used tip says connected 
 but i can not issue any commands...

You could try to leave it to ppp, just for testing purposes.
Everything you need is a number you can dial. Here's an
example for an /etc/ppp/ppp.conf that would do something
like this:

# --- ppp.conf ---
default:
set log Phase Chat LCP IPCP CCP tun command
ident user-ppp VERSION (built COMPILATIONDATE)
set device /dev/cuad0
set speed 115200
set dial ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \\ AT OK-AT-OK 
ATE1Q0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT
set timeout 120
enable dns
papchap:
set phone PHONE_NUM
set authname USERNAME
set authkey PASSWORD
add default HISADDR
test:
set phone 0123456789
set authname QWERTZ
set authkey ASDFGH
add default HISADDR
# --- ppp.conf --- end ---

With such a file, you can now:

# ppp test
ppp dial
*click dit dit dit dit... do doo... *
PPP close
*click*
ppp
#

In this case, you have confirmed that the serial modem works as
intended. You can of course enter real data for an ISP that offers
modem dial-in to get online. :-)

You can find more help and examples in man ppp.



 the modem has 2 leds. one yellow and one green. according to the manual 
 the yellow should be blinking as follows:
 
 Fast Blinking (0.5 sec on/0.5 sec off)  Net search/ Not 
 registered/Turning Off
 Slow Blinking (0.3 sec on/ 2.7 sec off)  Registered, Full Service
 
 i think i'm only seeing 'Fast Blinking'.  i wonder what 'Net search' 
 really means and where it's searching for it. it's connected through a 
 RS-232 to the serial port...
 
 ?!?

But it IS a modem to dial tones and connect to something?
Net search... no idea what that could mean. Serial modems usually
don't search for nets...

Or am I completely misunderstanding you and you're trying to find a
command access to a DSL modem that has a serial line?




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Re: vde qemu write: No buffer space available

2009-06-30 Thread Mel Flynn
On Friday 26 June 2009 10:04:13 Adam Vande More wrote:
 I'm having issues with high network throughput with vde and qemu.  There
 are two qemu vm's each running debian lenny and they are configured for
 drbd. The vm's work fine until drbd is started then the networking fails. 
 The only message I get(on the host side) is

 write: No buffer space available

It can be a driver issue, but the error message is somewhat misleading as it 
can be the result of an ill-configured firewall rule. Typically this happens 
when no state exists for the outgoing connection.

 which is echoed to console, and nothing appears in the logs.  I believe
 this to be an issue with vde, but I can't be certain because I can't seem
 to find any way to turn on more extensive logging.  Anyone have an idea how
 to resolve this?

You should check netstat -m to make sure there are mbufs available and if 
there is check your firewall. If all seems ok, try freebsd-net list for any 
known issues, since you didn't get any me too's here. You may want to 
specify a bit more info, like pciconf -lv for the vde device, vmstat -i at the 
time of the errors, ifconfig vde0 output and any firewall information 
(including I don't have one or error persists if firewall is disabled).
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Re: how do I append a PR I submitted?

2009-06-30 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/30  per...@pluto.rain.com:
 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote:
  See subject
 It is impolite to expect someone responding to a message to
 have to go back to the subject line like this.
  See subject
 is a very inadequate and somewhat tersely offensive.

 To each his own, I guess.  In the case of a one-liner question
 which is adequately asked in the Subject, some of us find it a bit
 annoying to see the same question repeated as the only body line.

 It certainly does not help those with a text based Email reader
 that does not show the subject in the included text for a response.

 I'd expect it to have been reused -- prepended with Re: if it didn't
 already start that way -- as the Subject: of the reply.

Assuming you hit Reply to every question like that


Chris



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Re: AMD64 VM with OpenGL?

2009-06-30 Thread xorquewasp
On 2009-06-30 02:13:11, Roland Smith wrote:
 
 The page says it does.

Forgive me for being cynical but after countless experiences, I rarely believe
such statements any more!

  Virtualbox + VMGL seems the most likely candidate at the moment -
 
 From the abovementioned page: VMGL is available for X11-based guest OS's.
 
  I'm just not sure if it's currently stable at all.
 
 At version 0.1.1, I wouldn't expect too much.
 
 OpenGL is just a display mechanism. If the calculations feeding the
 display have to be run in an emulator, this will slow your program down
 considerably. 

Well, I'd be running with virtualization extensions as my CPU supports
them and I'd think that OpenGL commands being passed from a VM straight
to the graphics card via this system shouldn't incur too much overhead.

 If your program on the guest OS is already written for X11, can't you
 port it to FreeBSD?  Or run it natively and transport the output to your
 FreeBSD box via X11?

If I'd written the program, it'd already be running on FreeBSD natively,
you've got my word on that. Unfortunately it's old and, of course,
proprietary.

xw
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net-im/mu-conference dependency oddity.

2009-06-30 Thread xorquewasp
Hello.

Anyone know how/why net-im/mu-conference depends on devel/gio-fam-backend?

I don't see it mentioned in any RUN_DEPENDS line nor in any of the
dependencies of dependencies. I'm building the port WITH_JABBERD.

xw
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Re: can't read from two cameras

2009-06-30 Thread Samuel Martín Moro
What do you mean?Are you the fwcontrol maintener?

Is it a common problem on 7.x? Why would fwcontrol work on -CURRENT, while
not in 7.x?


Thanks!


Samuel Martín Moro
CamTrace
{EPITECH.} tek3


On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Sean Bruno sean.br...@dsl-only.net wrote:

 Yeah, I thought so.

 One of these days I'll backport from -CURRENT to 7, but I haven't yet.

 -CURRENT most likely doesn't have this issue.

 Sean

 On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 17:43 +0200, Samuel Martín Moro wrote:
  sry, I forget:
 
 
  uname -a
  FreeBSD h2g2.axis.fr 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May  1
  08:49:13 UTC 2009
  r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
 
  sysctl -a | grep firewire
  debug.firewire_debug: 0
  hw.firewire.hold_count: 3
  hw.firewire.try_bmr: 1
  hw.firewire.fwmem.speed: 2
  hw.firewire.fwmem.eui64_lo: 0
  hw.firewire.fwmem.eui64_hi: 0
  hw.firewire.phydma_enable: 1
  hw.firewire.nocyclemaster: 0
  hw.firewire.fwe.rx_queue_len: 128
  hw.firewire.fwe.tx_speed: 2
  hw.firewire.fwe.stream_ch: 2
  hw.firewire.fwip.rx_queue_len: 128
  hw.firewire.sbp.tags: 0
  hw.firewire.sbp.use_doorbell: 0
  hw.firewire.sbp.scan_delay: 500
  hw.firewire.sbp.login_delay: 1000
  hw.firewire.sbp.exclusive_login: 1
  hw.firewire.sbp.max_speed: 2
  hw.firewire.sbp.auto_login: 1
  dev.firewire.0.%desc: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus
  dev.firewire.0.%driver: firewire
  dev.firewire.0.%parent: fwohci0
  dev.fwe.0.%parent: firewire0
  dev.fwip.0.%parent: firewire0
  dev.sbp.0.%parent: firewire0
  dev.dcons_crom.0.%parent: firewire0
 
 
 
 
  if one need something else... ;)
 
 
  thanks !
 
 
 
 
 
  Samuel Martín Moro
  CamTrace
  {EPITECH.} tek3
 
 
  On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Sean Bruno sean.br...@dsl-only.net
  wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 15:50 +0200, Samuel Martín Moro wrote:
   Hi
  
   I've got a problem, trying to read streams from 2 firewire
  DV cameras.
   When I plug the second camera in, the first one disapear
  from my /dev, and
   is replaced by the new one.
  
   So I just get /dev/fw0 (- /dev/fw0.0) and /dev/fwmem0
  (- /dev/fwmem0.0)
  
   How can I get more than one device in my /dev ?
  
  
  
   Thanks!
  
  
   Samuel Martín Moro
   CamTrace
   {EPITECH.} tek3
 
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  Ouch.  Really?
 
  What FreeBSD version is this?
 
  Sean
 
 
 


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Re: Untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed

2009-06-30 Thread Koichiro Iwao
I'm not sure about the difference, but you will easily find it on  
Wikipedia.

To avoid the warning, just try the ssh -Y option.

--
meta

On 2009/06/24, at 8:33, Daniel Underwood djuatde...@gmail.com wrote:


Whenever I

$ ssh -X u...@server

from my FreeBSD machine, I get the following message (and am
successfully logged in):

Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not  
generated
Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11  
forwarding.


When I log in to the same servers from my Ubuntu machines, I do NOT
get that message.

What's wrong here?
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Re: named startup problems upgrading from 7.1p4 to 7.1p5 or 7.1p6

2009-06-30 Thread no-spam
Sorry for starting a new thread with this - my ISP's mail server seems to 
rejecting all mail recipients when I 
send email with a mail client, so I'm having to use webmail instead. Their tech 
says they won't help - they 
only support Outlook! Grrr!

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:27:07 Matthew Seaman wrote:
 Ian wrote:
  Well the fact that if I run  /etc/rc.d/named manually after the system
  has booted, the script also hangs suggests it's not the next process I
  have just check however  ntpdate is the next one in the list to be
  started and that does start correctly - you can see it report the clock
  being adjusted. Also, when you do a Ctrl+C to break the named script on
  bootup, it says Script /etc/rc.d/named interrupted.
 
  Something I've just realised is that named stays loaded even when you
  'break' the script. on bootup and DNS lookups work (I didn't think that
  was the case originally, but it is).

Actually, some careful checking tonight shows that I had forgotten I had a 
second DNS server in resolv.conf that was doing the DNS resolution - in fact 
bind on this server is not working even though a bind process appears to be 
running :/

 Hmmm

 Anything interesting from named in the system logs?  You might want to
 enable /var/log/all.log by following the instructions in /etc/syslog.conf
 and then see what output you get by bouncing named.  It's usually pretty
 good at pointing out exactly what it thinks the problem is.

I've enabled all.log, it only shows the following output when starting named:
Jun 29 20:51:43 msgserver named[1593]: starting BIND 9.4.2-P2 -t /var/named -u 
bind
Jun 29 20:51:43 msgserver named[1593]: found 1 CPU, using 1 worker thread

a ps axw | grep named gives the following output after running /etc/rc.d/named 
start:
 1988  ??  Is 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind
 1930  p0  I+ 0:00.06 /bin/sh -x /etc/rc.d/named start
 1987  p0  I+ 0:00.01 /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind

and then after doing a Ctrl+C in the terminal where /etc/rc.d/named start is 
running, only one process continues to run:
 1988  ??  Is 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/named -t /var/named -u bind

This process doesn't respond to DNS queries, to rndc commands, 
to /etc/rc.d/named stop (says no process is running because there is no pid 
file being created) or by a kill command other than kill -9.
(All named processes were killed before stating named)


 You could also try running:

# /bin/sh -x /etc/rc.d/named start


 -- make sure named isn't running when you do that.  There will be quite
 a lot of output as the rc system loads all of the various config files,
 but you should be able to trace exactly where it's got to when it does
 hang.

Here's the edited highlights of output, I can't see anything that helps:
 + _rc_subr_loaded=:
 + name=named
 + rcvar=named_enable
 + command=/usr/sbin/named
 + extra_commands=reload
 + start_precmd=named_precmd
 + start_postcmd=make_symlinks
 + reload_cmd=named_reload
 + stop_cmd=named_stop
 + stop_postcmd=named_poststop
 + load_rc_config named
 + _name=named
 + [ -z named ]
 + false
 + [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]

 snip

 + named_enable=NO
 + named_program=/usr/sbin/named
 + named_pidfile=/var/run/named/pid
 + named_uid=bind
 + named_chrootdir=/var/named
 + named_chroot_autoupdate=YES
 + named_symlink_enable=YES

 snip

 + sourced_files=:/etc/rc.conf::/etc/rc.conf.local:
 + [ -r /etc/rc.conf.local ]
 + _rc_conf_loaded=true
 + [ -f /etc/rc.conf.d/named ]
 + required_dirs=/var/named
 + pidfile=/var/run/named/pid
 + command_args=-u bind
 + run_rc_command start
 + _return=0
 + rc_arg=start
 + [ -z named ]
 + shift 1
 + rc_extra_args=
 + _rc_prefix=
 + eval _override_command=$named_program
 + _override_command=/usr/sbin/named
 + command=/usr/sbin/named
 + _keywords=start stop restart rcvar reload
 + rc_pid=
 + _pidcmd=
 + _procname=/usr/sbin/named
 + [ -n /usr/sbin/named ]
 + [ -n /var/run/named/pid ]
 + _pidcmd=rc_pid=$(check_pidfile /var/run/named/pid /usr/sbin/named )
 + [ -n rc_pid=$(check_pidfile /var/run/named/pid /usr/sbin/named ) ]
 + _keywords=start stop restart rcvar reload status poll
 + [ -z start ]
 + [ -n  ]
 + eval rc_flags=$named_flags
 + rc_flags=
 + eval _chdir=$named_chdir _chroot=$named_chroot _nice=$named_nice
 _user=$named_user _group=$named_group _groups=$named_groups
 + _chdir= _chroot= _nice= _user= _group= _groups=
 + [ -n  ]
 + [ -n named_enable -a start != rcvar ]
 + checkyesno named_enable
 + eval _value=$named_enable
 + _value=YES
 + debug checkyesno: named_enable is set to YES.
 + return 0
 + eval rc_pid=$(check_pidfile /var/run/named/pid /usr/sbin/named )
 + check_pidfile /var/run/named/pid /usr/sbin/named
 + _pidfile=/var/run/named/pid
 + _procname=/usr/sbin/named
 + _interpreter=
 + [ -z /var/run/named/pid -o -z /usr/sbin/named ]
 + [ ! -f /var/run/named/pid ]
 + debug pid file (/var/run/named/pid): not readable.
 + return
 + rc_pid=
 + [ start != start ]
 + eval _cmd=$start_cmd _precmd=$start_precmd 

Re: named startup problems upgrading from 7.1p4 to 7.1p5 or 7.1p6

2009-06-30 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:35:26 +, no-s...@people.net.au wrote:
 Sorry for starting a new thread with this - my ISP's mail server seems to 
 rejecting all mail recipients when I 

Which which reason?



 send email with a mail client, so I'm having to use webmail instead. Their 
 tech says they won't help - they 
 only support Outlook! Grrr!

Can I read this as they don't support proper POP/SMPT? What
an ISP... :-(





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Re: Firefox: Video but no audio

2009-06-30 Thread Carmel NY
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:52:03 +0530
Manish Jain invalid.poin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you have problems with sound only on Firefox ? If your problem is 
 that you can't get sound with any application, then please see the 
 output of 'cat /dev/sndstat'. If you get nothing, then you probably 
 don't have an appropriate sound driver loaded.
 
 If you have an Intel-based board, try putting snd_ich_load=YES and 
 snd_hda_load=YES into your /boot/loader.conf
 
 If your problem is Firefox-specific, then try editing 
 Tools-Options. On the Applications tab, see whether you have an 
 entry for MP3 Format Sounds and that it set to something reasonable.

Sound works fine with everything except firefox.

I am not sure what version of FF you are referring to. I have no menu
listing for TOOLS  OPTIONS listed. I do have an EDIT 
PREFERENCES; however, there is nothing about sound listed there.

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good afternoon to all

2009-06-30 Thread malathi selvaraj
i am not able to made rcpbind,
i get an error while making the rcpbind
like this

RPC: Unknown host
showmount: can't do exports rpc

Thanks in advance
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Compatibility of motherboard Asus KFSN5-D

2009-06-30 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

I would like to build a FreeBSD 7.2 server on the motherboard Asus
KFSN5-D.

It looks like the chipset is nVIDIA nForce Professional 3600, I don't
see it being supported (or not).

Before I engage in buying, I would like to make sure I'll have no
problem.

TIA,

Olivier
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Re: FreeBSD 7.2 - iwi error

2009-06-30 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:53:48 +0300,
Siyan Sabinov Hadzhiev siyan.hadzh...@gmail.com a écrit :

 I have configure bmiss parameter in rc.conf as you said and enable
 debug.iwi in sysctl , Bellow you can see the log entries.
 I remembered that these entries were like yours , Beacon Miss..
 Now they have changed to something different.The iwi0 device timeout
 errors went away after the bmiss config.
 
 So I will try with this config , and I think it will work for me.

You can try the new Intel firmware for iwi, see
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3849
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Re: Strange HDA sound behavior on FreeBSD 7.2

2009-06-30 Thread Patrick Lamaiziere
Le Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:44:45 +0300,
vadim braun vadim.br...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Hi all,
 I try to set correct sound driver using Handbook on my notebook Dell
 Inspiron 1501.
 
 Load sound drivers:
 zero# kldload snd_driver
 See attachment dmesg_after_loading_sound_meta_driver.txt
 zero# cat /dev/sndstat
 FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64)
 Installed devices:
 pcm0: HDA Sigmatel STAC9220 PCM #0 Analog at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0
 kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default)

 zero# ls /dev
 Where is dsp or pcm device?

You will not see them, they are cloned device (something like that).
That's ok.

 Can someone help me?

What's the problem?
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Re: Strange HDA sound behavior on FreeBSD 7.2

2009-06-30 Thread vadim braun
2009/6/30 Patrick Lamaiziere patf...@davenulle.org

 Le Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:44:45 +0300,
 vadim braun vadim.br...@gmail.com a écrit :

  Hi all,
  I try to set correct sound driver using Handbook on my notebook Dell
  Inspiron 1501.
 
  Load sound drivers:
  zero# kldload snd_driver
  See attachment dmesg_after_loading_sound_meta_driver.txt
  zero# cat /dev/sndstat
  FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 64bit 2007061600/amd64)
  Installed devices:
  pcm0: HDA Sigmatel STAC9220 PCM #0 Analog at cad 1 nid 1 on hdac0
  kld snd_hda [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default)

  zero# ls /dev
  Where is dsp or pcm device?

 You will not see them, they are cloned device (something like that).
 That's ok.

  Can someone help me?

 What's the problem?


Sorry, I saw this string in Handbook

Another quick way to test the card is sending data to /dev/dsp, like this:
% cat filename  /dev/dsp

So I can't find /dev/dsp device and I think what something wrong with my
system.
Thanks for help!
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Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-30 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 29/06/2009 à 15:20:59-0400, Lowell Gilbert a écrit
 Brad Mettee bmet...@pchotshots.com writes:
 
  If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail  web
  pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
  FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
  24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
  r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
 
  To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
 
  Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?
 
 At *least* make sure you get the security updates...
 
Other reason to make time to time a update is to simplify you life when
your old version don't work after N years. Someday you may have (for example)
postfix don't work anymore on you old version. So when you don't have the
choice, the update may very hard to make.

Regards.


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msmtp port with tls

2009-06-30 Thread James Griffin
Hello

I've installed msmtp using ports but it doesn't have tls support. I have read 
the ports information in the handbook and i understand you can modify the 
compile options, but it's not clear to me how i can do that with msmtp. I've 
had a look at the Makefile which is where i think i need to make the change but 
i'm just not sure what to do. Does anyone know how i can compile msmtp with tls 
support?

TIA, Jamie

(i'm using FreeBSD 6.4)


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Re: update from 7.0 to 7.2?

2009-06-30 Thread Olivier Nicole
  Brad Mettee bmet...@pchotshots.com writes:
  
   If a system is stable and ports are up to date, serving mail  web
   pages as needed, is there any reason to update from this:
   FreeBSD ns1.pchotshots.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb
   24 10:35:36 UTC 2008
   r...@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
  
   To something newer? (like 7.2 stable)
  
   Would there be any noticeable benefit from an update?
  
  At *least* make sure you get the security updates...
  
 Other reason to make time to time a update is to simplify you life when
 your old version don't work after N years. Someday you may have (for example)
 postfix don't work anymore on you old version. So when you don't have the
 choice, the update may very hard to make.

Another reason to consider, at some date, 7.0 will not be amintained
anymore.

At that time you may be facing difficulties to upgrade to the latest
legacy release: upgrades are better tested when done in sequence: 7.0
to 7.1, 7.1 to 7.2, etc. 7.x to 8.y. 7.0 to 8.y may work, or may
not. So you better not stay too far behind.

Bests,

Olivier
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Re: eSATA and/or Firewire 800|400 card, cardbus or expresscard 54mm

2009-06-30 Thread parv
In message 20090624121036.ga3...@holstein.holy.cow on -mobile
list[0], I asked for suggestions for a firewire or eSATA card to be
put in Thinkpad T61 PCMCIA or EtherExpress slot, while most likely
running FreeBSD 7.

After about 6 days getting no replies but still dwindling hard disk
space, where should I ask the question again: -hardware, -firewire,
-stable, here[1]?


  - Parv


  [0] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-mobile/2009-June/011664.html

  [1] Well, I kind of did.

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IDE Devices and FreeBSD 7.2 Release Install

2009-06-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
I just built a new computer with an ASUS P5Q Pro Turbo LGA 775 Intel P45
ATX Intel Motherboard and the install isn't seeing the IDE devices. I'm
using the AMD64 DVD to install the OS. The computer sees both the 120GB
IDE drive and the DVD drive, but FreeBSD only sees the six SATA drives
once it boots off the DVD and I start the standard install process. The
IDE HD and CD drives aren't seen.

Any suggestions?

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ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread Manolis Kiagias
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Hey all,

Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased
to announce a GNOME-based one.
This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the
gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections.

*Important:* There appears to be a problem with the package INDEX on
the DVD that I have not been able to solve: Two packages are not
selected as dependencies, although they are actually needed:

* djbfft - Required for gnumeric
* libdvdcss - Required for gnome multimedia packages (and yes I
realize this package is probably in the 'grey area')

Please select these packages manually from the All menu in
Sysinstall's package selection screen. Failing to do so may cause
installation of other packages to fail.  Note this is a problem only
if you install packages using Sysinstall.  It is possible to install
packages using pkg_add while in the /cdrom/packages/All directory
without any problem.

I did attempt to correct these but could not find a solution that
would not cause other packages to fail (or even sysinstall to
segfault).  I am open to suggestions to anyone that can have a look.

Other than XFCE being replaced by GNOME, the two DVDs are otherwise
identical in packages.  The OpenOffice packages already present for
XFCE will also work with this build (both builds were run from the
same ports tree).

The main download page is:

http://freebsd-custom.wikidot.com/downloads-page

As always, feedback is welcome.

Manolis Kiagias
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Re: eSATA and/or Firewire 800|400 card, cardbus or expresscard 54mm

2009-06-30 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 30/6/09 14:42, p...@pair.com wrote:
 In message 20090624121036.ga3...@holstein.holy.cow on -mobile
 list[0], I asked for suggestions for a firewire or eSATA card to be
 put in Thinkpad T61 PCMCIA or EtherExpress slot, while most likely
 running FreeBSD 7.

 After about 6 days getting no replies but still dwindling hard disk
 space, where should I ask the question again: -hardware, -firewire,
 -stable, here[1]?


   
The only one I have ever used was a cheapy one from deal extreme[0] This
actually worked fine (minimal testing other than formatting and some
file copies.) It was being picked up before the internal sata controller
and reordering the drives which was a pain. I cant be sure if you would
get one with the same chipset as me or anything though as its a noname
brand from somewhere in china.


Vince




[0] http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22074

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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread Andrew Gould
2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hey all,

 Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased
 to announce a GNOME-based one.
 This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the
 gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections.

 As always, feedback is welcome.

 Manolis Kiagias

It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an
installation DVD with KDE 3.5.  (KDE lost a large amount of voter
share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.)

Does anyone know how long KDE 3.5 will be available in the ports?
(Expecting its eventual demise, I switched to Gnome, then to XFCE4.)

Andrew
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Re: gmirror gm0 destroyed on shutdown; GPT corrupt

2009-06-30 Thread Lorenzo Perone

Hi,


On 28.06.2009, at 10:49, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote:


 I for one never put mirror on
already partitioned disk. Although it is sometimes safe to use the  
last

sector.  Gjournal already looks for UFS and if UFS is in place, it
figures out if the last sector is in use - it isn't if partition  
size is

not multiple of UFS block size.




does this actually also mean that gmirror used on a partition
(eg mirroring two partitions of two different disks) is
not recommended and is going to write its metadata always
on the last sector of the disk, instead of the last sector of
the partition?

regards,

Lorenzo

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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread Tim Judd
On 6/30/09, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hey all,

 Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased
 to announce a GNOME-based one.
 This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the
 gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections.

 As always, feedback is welcome.

 Manolis Kiagias

 It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an
 installation DVD with KDE 3.5.  (KDE lost a large amount of voter
 share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.)

 Does anyone know how long KDE 3.5 will be available in the ports?
 (Expecting its eventual demise, I switched to Gnome, then to XFCE4.)

 Andrew


When I run KDE, I run KDE4.  I'm not asking for someone to generate a
KDE3.5 or KDE4 install medium, but where is the line?

If we make XFCE4, and Gnome2.26, why not Enlightenment, Blackbox,
KDE3.5, KDE4, etc etc etc?



Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would
boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit]
depth)), run firefox or another lightweight browser (even lynx in the
console if X fails to start) on it's own filesystem or over apache.
Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for
your choice of WM from the internet.


I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started
on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to
the broad public.

So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this.  The
advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of
course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install
or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that
sysinstall offers.



Anybody else think it's a good idea?  Willing to take suggestions.
Would satisfy my designing and creativity mindset I'm in right
now.
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Re: Using ctorrent or other program to seed a torrent

2009-06-30 Thread Kelly Jones
Thanks to everyone who helped. A couple of clarifications:

 % I'm not trying to share a file I downloaded. This is a file I
 created from scratch.

 % I don't want to seed for just 12 hours. I want to seed for days,
 maybe even weeks or months.

 % I don't necessarily want to run a tracker. I'm happy to use a
 public tracker like thepiratebay.org. I just want to seed the file.

Is ctorrent the wrong program for this? Is there a better program to
seed torrents?

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new ideas and technology is unwise and ultimately futile.

On 6/28/09, Kelly Jones kelly.terry.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know how to use ctorrent to create a torrent file, but how do I
 actually seed the resulting file so that others can get it, and how do
 I 'register' myself w/ a tracker so that others will know what IP
 address to connect to, etc?

 Can ctorrent seed torrents, or do I need another program for that?
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Tim Juddtaj...@gmail.com wrote:

 It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an
 installation DVD with KDE 3.5.  (KDE lost a large amount of voter
 share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.)


[snip]


 When I run KDE, I run KDE4.  I'm not asking for someone to generate a
 KDE3.5 or KDE4 install medium, but where is the line?

 If we make XFCE4, and Gnome2.26, why not Enlightenment, Blackbox,
 KDE3.5, KDE4, etc etc etc?



If I remember correctly, there already are two of these [1][2], soon
to be followed by a third [3].


 Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would
 boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit]
 depth)), run firefox or another lightweight browser (even lynx in the
 console if X fails to start) on it's own filesystem or over apache.
 Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for
 your choice of WM from the internet.


 I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started
 on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to
 the broad public.

 So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this.  The
 advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of
 course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install
 or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that
 sysinstall offers.


I like the idea, but wouldn't you need console access to get the
network configured?  Unless I am misunderstanding your intention, it
appears you are replacing ssh access with apacheXX (or lighttpd, etc).
 I like the idea, otherwise.


[1] - http://pcbsd.org/
[2] - http://www.desktopbsd.net/
[3] - http://www.tomahawkcomputers.com/

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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:45:32 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would
 boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit]
 depth)), 

Why not a choice, 800x600 for laptops with smaller screen (or
in 16:9 format for modern laptops) - or try to autodetect what
is REALLY on the screen (instead of assuming a standard)?
Just a polite idea.



 run firefox or another lightweight browser

You're a funny guy. :-)

When talking about lightweight browser in X, strangely dillo comes
to my mind. Yes, I know, it's quite limited, but...



 (even lynx in the
 console if X fails to start)

Very good idea.



 on it's own filesystem or over apache.
 Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for
 your choice of WM from the internet.

A kind of preview screenshot would be good - you know, users judge
from first sight primarily. :-)



 I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started
 on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to
 the broad public.

Hmmm... I don't think so. In my opinion, it's a very good idea.
You're offering functionality (like preinstalled and preconfigured)
in a matter that only PC-BSD serves today, and for PC-BSD, you need
quite modern hardware. It's not usable for older systems, and you
know how fast today's systems are considered older.



 So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this. 

Yes, if you include WindowMaker and support for a Sun keyboard. :-)
No, honestly; as much as I think you are bringing a good idea into
life, I prefer to completely install systems myself. The chance
that anything that I do not need to be included is too high. Of
course, you are aware that you cannot cater all kinds of intentions
with only one solution, that's impossible. But as I said, that's
only my own, unimportant point of view.



 The
 advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of
 course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install
 or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that
 sysinstall offers.

This would be very interesting as long as it does not require too
much additional services to be included and run.



 Anybody else think it's a good idea? 

At least an interesting idea, and this is what counts. Good is
always defined from the viewer's site.





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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread Tim Judd
On 6/30/09, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Tim Juddtaj...@gmail.com wrote:

 It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an
 installation DVD with KDE 3.5.  (KDE lost a large amount of voter
 share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.)


 [snip]


 When I run KDE, I run KDE4.  I'm not asking for someone to generate a
 KDE3.5 or KDE4 install medium, but where is the line?

 If we make XFCE4, and Gnome2.26, why not Enlightenment, Blackbox,
 KDE3.5, KDE4, etc etc etc?



 If I remember correctly, there already are two of these [1][2], soon
 to be followed by a third [3].

Manolis has made [1] and [2], and I just am starting to wonder where
the line will be drawn.  Not that I ask for a line to be drawn, rather
if it's going to go on forever with 20 (or 20^20) choices for the end
user to make.  We already have people asking on IRC which ISO to use.



 Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would
 boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit]
 depth)), run firefox or another lightweight browser (even lynx in the
 console if X fails to start) on it's own filesystem or over apache.
 Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for
 your choice of WM from the internet.


 I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started
 on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to
 the broad public.

 So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this.  The
 advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of
 course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install
 or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that
 sysinstall offers.


 I like the idea, but wouldn't you need console access to get the
 network configured?  Unless I am misunderstanding your intention, it
 appears you are replacing ssh access with apacheXX (or lighttpd, etc).
  I like the idea, otherwise.

Well, you have to slap in the CD to the drive, right?  Let it bootup,
do simple net config (if needed) then tell the remote end
Preconfigured with IP x.x.x.x and authentication xuser pass xpass.

The issue will be after install and it gets restarted, will the CD
boot again and be stuck in that loop.  This is the same problem as the
existing sysinstall CDs that you have to eject it before it boots
again.  the NT boot CDs from 2000 onward have a nice function that if
the cd is selected to boot, and it times out, it forces (doesn't
return control to the BIOS) a HDD boot.  Maybe we need to come up with
a cd bootloader that accomplishes similar task?  Would be a nice boost
to the community not to have a stuck CD and not a running OS.


As for the actual commands to execute to get this configured, since
it's a liveCD, my first thought process to get the tasks done are to
SUID the binaries to root, and post-install, the binaries are they're
normal binaries.


My webpages are never designed as eyecandy.  rather they're very
boring white page with a form.  It's lynx compatible too, after all.




 [1] - http://pcbsd.org/
 [2] - http://www.desktopbsd.net/
 [3] - http://www.tomahawkcomputers.com/

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Older FreeBSD reorders my disk nodes, can't mount root

2009-06-30 Thread Alexander Sack
Hello,

Has anyone installed FreeBSD 4.2-i386 on a system connected to an
external SAN via isp(4) (QLA2342)?  My main issue is reordering of da
nodes.

I have both an Intel and IBM server which I do an install onto the
internal Adaptec controller.  After install, I then connect the SAN
and soft reboot.  The good news is that it sees the volumes but I get
dumped into the mountroot prompt.

Okay, no big deal.  My da's in the fstab were reordered so I try to
find it by mounting s1a from the other da nodes and no matter what I
choose I can not mount root.  I can't see the exact disk because dmesg
scrolls by too fast but based on the number of da's, it seems to have
found both the internal Adaptec and external SAN via the QLogic 23xx
card.  I tried every node but nothing mounts (I get either 6 or 22 I
forgot off hand).

Has anyone seen this before?

If I disconnect the SAN, the box mounts root normally via the da0s1a
node which is the first disk off the Adaptec SCSI controller
(dual-channel U320).  I believe there is no glabel here so I can't
label anything (is there a way to use the packid off the old disklabel
utility?).

Thanks!

-aps

PS Please don't ask me why I have to use 4.2, I just do!  :(
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Re: Older FreeBSD reorders my disk nodes, can't mount root

2009-06-30 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:12:19 -0400, Alexander Sack pisym...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, no big deal.  My da's in the fstab were reordered so I try to
 find it by mounting s1a from the other da nodes and no matter what I
 choose I can not mount root.  I can't see the exact disk because dmesg
 scrolls by too fast but based on the number of da's, it seems to have
 found both the internal Adaptec and external SAN via the QLogic 23xx
 card.  I tried every node but nothing mounts (I get either 6 or 22 I
 forgot off hand).

For scrolls too fast: Use the Scroll Lock key, then the cursor and
page scrolling keys to see the messages that went off the screen.

For reordering: Does the 4.x kernel already have ATA_STATIC_ID?
Maybe this applies to your problem. I'm not running such a setting,
so this is only a wild guess.





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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread Thomas Abthorpe
At this time KDE has not announced an EOL on 3.5. That said, you will
likely see it in the tree through the end of 2009.

HTH


Thomas

On 30/06/2009, Andrew Gould andrewlylego...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/6/30 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hey all,

 Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased
 to announce a GNOME-based one.
 This includes a complete GNOME 2.26.2 desktop and also the
 gnome-power-tools and gnome-fifth-toe package collections.

 As always, feedback is welcome.

 Manolis Kiagias

 It would be interesting to see how much demand exists for an
 installation DVD with KDE 3.5.  (KDE lost a large amount of voter
 share in Linux Journal's last Readers' Choice Awards.)

 Does anyone know how long KDE 3.5 will be available in the ports?
 (Expecting its eventual demise, I switched to Gnome, then to XFCE4.)

 Andrew
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread ras

Manolis Kiagias wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hey all,

Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased
to announce a GNOME-based one.

  
hi, is this like a normal freebsd install + gnome, or OS with custom 
system setup, automatic updates and such? (either is fine, not 
complaining, just curious before i dl)

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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread Andrew Gould
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Thomas Abthorpetabtho...@freebsd.org wrote:
 At this time KDE has not announced an EOL on 3.5. That said, you will
 likely see it in the tree through the end of 2009.

 HTH


 Thomas

Yes.  Thanks.

Andrew
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strange ee behaviour

2009-06-30 Thread Alexander Best
hi there,

i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open `ee` in an
xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to enter commands
which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee was running on
the output is a mess.

i'm running r195173 (HEAD).

cheers.
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Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread Manolis Kiagias
ras wrote:
 Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hey all,

 Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased
 to announce a GNOME-based one.

   
 hi, is this like a normal freebsd install + gnome, or OS with custom
 system setup, automatic updates and such? (either is fine, not
 complaining, just curious before i dl)

Yes, like standard FreeBSD disc, sysinstall and all. The only
differences are a) the selection of packages (different - more recent
versions)  b) the base system is 7.2-RELEASE-p2
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WebInstaller (was: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released)

2009-06-30 Thread Tim Judd
On 6/30/09, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:45:32 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:
 Earlier, I made hints at a webGUI install (the install medium would
 boot into X, basic setup (VESA driver @1024x768, 24 [or 16bit]
 depth)),

 Why not a choice, 800x600 for laptops with smaller screen (or
 in 16:9 format for modern laptops) - or try to autodetect what
 is REALLY on the screen (instead of assuming a standard)?
 Just a polite idea.



A 800x600 resolution is just too crowded when you try to make a system
on it.  I think there's more 1024x768 resolutions than 800x600.  If
1024x768 doesn't work, we revert back to a console tty?  I have said
nothing firm as in it's this way or no way..  I'm just trying to see
reasonable defaults.




 run firefox or another lightweight browser

 You're a funny guy. :-)

 When talking about lightweight browser in X, strangely dillo comes
 to my mind. Yes, I know, it's quite limited, but...

And I didn't mention dillo because I don't use it or have ever seen
it.  lightweight to me is lynx.  Standard is Opera, and
commonplace is Firefox.  I also have to take consideration for the
scripting (if any) the installer does has to be supported by the
javascript engine in the browser.  So the off-the-wall browsers who
aren't up with the rest of the big boys are likely to cause problems.
Again, ideas and suggestions all around.  Hrm..  maybe I should open
up a poll/voting website that would allow this.






 (even lynx in the
 console if X fails to start)

 Very good idea.



 on it's own filesystem or over apache.
 Once network configuration is done, you can pull the data sets for
 your choice of WM from the internet.

 A kind of preview screenshot would be good - you know, users judge
 from first sight primarily. :-)


Nice point.  I'll have to think of a way to get this considered.  a
JPG would be nice, up until the X fails to start.  :D


I need input here:
  If said chosen WM is unsatisfactory to the user, how the heck can I
offer a reconfiguration window?  sysinstall was built with a different
mindset, so we can't easily use sysinstall.

  If we boot off CD, we run off CD and install base off CD and WM off
Internet.  Post install config would be what..  Internet web/gui
based?  that is, the REAL Internet?  Options, brainstorming please.




 I think this has potential, and would offer making it (already started
 on it), but I think my statements went on deaf ears when addressed to
 the broad public.

 Hmmm... I don't think so. In my opinion, it's a very good idea.
 You're offering functionality (like preinstalled and preconfigured)
 in a matter that only PC-BSD serves today, and for PC-BSD, you need
 quite modern hardware. It's not usable for older systems, and you
 know how fast today's systems are considered older.


well, a project like s...@home that compiles desktop environments that
stores on a central server is a dream in the works, will that work?  i
don't know enough programming to make that work.  :(



 So I'll ask again if anyone else would be interested in this.

 Yes, if you include WindowMaker and support for a Sun keyboard. :-)
 No, honestly; as much as I think you are bringing a good idea into
 life, I prefer to completely install systems myself. The chance
 that anything that I do not need to be included is too high. Of
 course, you are aware that you cannot cater all kinds of intentions
 with only one solution, that's impossible. But as I said, that's
 only my own, unimportant point of view.

WindowMaker?  sure.  Sun keyboard?  no, absolutely not.  My way, or no way.  :D


what do you mean by completely install systems myself  -- that's
what you're doing.  You're installing a -RELEASE aren't you?  you're
installing a software kit that will eventually be referred to a
package once it's stored on your system...  Gets a big chunk out of
the way.

Personally, and this is for the archives, when I setup a box.  I like
it to be up quick.  install -RELEASE.  freebsd-update.  pkg_add -r
packages. port{upgrade,master}.  Now you have a functioning install
in less time than windows takes to install and update.  :D






 The
 advantage is that on this webGUI install, you can offer it (secured of
 course) over the internet for someone more technical to do the install
 or configuring, including the same post-install configuration that
 sysinstall offers.

 This would be very interesting as long as it does not require too
 much additional services to be included and run.


http Basic authentication, maybe over a self-signed SSL connection.
It's not like a VPN, with certificates, blowfish encryption.  It's a
limited life system that needs to be as secure as long as it takes to
install.



 Anybody else think it's a good idea?

 At least an interesting idea, and this is what counts. Good is
 always defined from the viewer's site.



Very good point.  pun intended.

:)  your input is appreciated.  thanks.





 --
 Polytropon
 From Magdeburg, 

Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released

2009-06-30 Thread ras

Manolis Kiagias wrote:

ras wrote:
  

Manolis Kiagias wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hey all,

Continuing the effort in producing custom FreeBSD builds, I am pleased
to announce a GNOME-based one.

  
  

hi, is this like a normal freebsd install + gnome, or OS with custom
system setup, automatic updates and such? (either is fine, not
complaining, just curious before i dl)



Yes, like standard FreeBSD disc, sysinstall and all. The only
differences are a) the selection of packages (different - more recent
versions)  b) the base system is 7.2-RELEASE-p2

  

thanks. meanwhile i read some info on the site and got the general idea.
i am thinking this will be very handy for installing fbsd on my netbook, 
compaq mini.

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Re: WebInstaller (was: Re: ANNOUNCE: Custom GNOME-based FreeBSD iso released)

2009-06-30 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:41:46 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote:
 A 800x600 resolution is just too crowded when you try to make a system
 on it. 

It's no problem when you run the browser without title line, menu bar,
icon bar, other bars, and status line. You don't need to make all
the text in 100pt letters. :-)



 I think there's more 1024x768 resolutions than 800x600. 

Don't assume anything. Test for it.



 If
 1024x768 doesn't work, we revert back to a console tty?  I have said
 nothing firm as in it's this way or no way..  I'm just trying to see
 reasonable defaults.

Default = use what's present - the easiest way in my opinion.



 And I didn't mention dillo because I don't use it or have ever seen
 it.  lightweight to me is lynx. 

Yes, complete agree.



  A kind of preview screenshot would be good - you know, users judge
  from first sight primarily. :-)
 
 
 Nice point.  I'll have to think of a way to get this considered.  a
 JPG would be nice, up until the X fails to start.  :D

You know HTML? img src=some_image.jpg alt=image of XFCE desktop
longdesc=The XFCE desktop looks very nice, it has lots of icons,
and some windows are opened. :-)



 I need input here:
   If said chosen WM is unsatisfactory to the user, how the heck can I
 offer a reconfiguration window?  sysinstall was built with a different
 mindset, so we can't easily use sysinstall.

Selection of window manager is usually done through user's .xinitrc.
In case of xdm used, .xsession (which can incorporate .xinitrc).
Doesn't work for KDE and Gnome because they bring their own
replacements for xdm, i. e. kdm and gdm; all of them involve
changes in /etc/ttys.



  Yes, if you include WindowMaker and support for a Sun keyboard. :-)
  No, honestly; as much as I think you are bringing a good idea into
  life, I prefer to completely install systems myself. The chance
  that anything that I do not need to be included is too high. Of
  course, you are aware that you cannot cater all kinds of intentions
  with only one solution, that's impossible. But as I said, that's
  only my own, unimportant point of view.
 
 WindowMaker?  sure.  Sun keyboard?  no, absolutely not.  My way, or no way.  
 :D

I've got a 122 key IBM model M, too. How about that? :-)



 what do you mean by completely install systems myself  -- that's
 what you're doing.  You're installing a -RELEASE aren't you?  you're
 installing a software kit that will eventually be referred to a
 package once it's stored on your system...  Gets a big chunk out of
 the way.

Exactly. I usually go with the install CD for the base system, then
pkg_add -r for the applications. Compile only for mplayer (due to
options). Then some configuration work (usually done with samples
from previous systems), and then use. Install once, use then. I
know this makes me look like a very lazy guy. :-)



 Personally, and this is for the archives, when I setup a box.  I like
 it to be up quick. 

If I want this, I simply take an already installed system, use dump
and restore, and then do the changes that are neccessary, like
reconfiguring X and network settings. As I said, I'm lazy, and this
way is quite fast.



 install -RELEASE.  freebsd-update.  pkg_add -r
 packages. port{upgrade,master}.  Now you have a functioning install
 in less time than windows takes to install and update.  :D

Yes, that is true. And it will continue working much longer than
Windows will even exist.





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From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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Re: Using ctorrent or other program to seed a torrent

2009-06-30 Thread Bob Johnson
On 6/28/09, Kelly Jones kelly.terry.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know how to use ctorrent to create a torrent file, but how do I
 actually seed the resulting file so that others can get it, and how do
 I 'register' myself w/ a tracker so that others will know what IP
 address to connect to, etc?

I haven't done it in a while, but after you create the .torrent file,
you upload the .torrent file to the tracker. That's basically all the
registration you need to do. The .torrent file contains the
information other clients need to download the file. You then start
seeding the file with your client, which connects to the tracker and
advertises the availability of the file.

To seed the file, you basically just do exactly what you would do if
you were trying to download the torrent, using the -E or -e option to
specify how long you want to seed after the download completes. You
should run ctorrent in the directory where you created the torrent (or
at least in a directory with a copy of the file and the .torrent
file), so it will already have the downloaded file. Seeding will
begin as soon as it gets itself organized.

I THINK that -e 0 will cause it to seed forever, but if not, -e 
will give you more than a year. I used to use -e 999, which is a
little over 41 days.

If you want it to get out of your way and hide in the background, run
it as a daemon, e.g.:

  ctorrent -d -e  nameoffile.torrent



 Can ctorrent seed torrents, or do I need another program for that?

Yes, ctorrent automatically seeds for 72 hours after it finishes the
download, and you can adjust that.

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s...@home

2009-06-30 Thread Stefan Miklosovic
hi all,

I would like to install s...@home client to my machine,
There are tutorials on internet how to install it, but it is all
about package called simply setiathome. I dont see
such package in a port tree. I was searching for similar
one, it seems I found it :

/usr/ports/astro/boinc-setiathome-enhanced

If i go to install it, it is about instaling ~30 ports as well,
most of them is xorg related.

I do not want to install these X related packages at all.
It seems futile to having written WITHOUT_X11=yes in
/etc/make.conf.

Could I have s...@home client without X packages?

thank you
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restoring a dump file across the network

2009-06-30 Thread Dave
Hello,
I've got a dumpfile taken of one machine and placed on another. Now
i want to push it to a third, i was wondering if this were doable? Machine 3
does not have dump/restore on it can't get it, so needs to have it sent over
an encrypted ssh connection. Suggestions welcome.
Thanks.
Dave.

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Re: restoring a dump file across the network

2009-06-30 Thread Tim Judd
If you don't have the restore program, a dumpfile won't help you.

You'd have to tar with permissions and untar on the opposite side.


On 6/30/09, Dave dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
   I've got a dumpfile taken of one machine and placed on another. Now
 i want to push it to a third, i was wondering if this were doable? Machine 3
 does not have dump/restore on it can't get it, so needs to have it sent over
 an encrypted ssh connection. Suggestions welcome.
 Thanks.
 Dave.

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Re: restoring a dump file across the network

2009-06-30 Thread Don Read
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:15:26 -0400 Dave said:

 Hello,
   I've got a dumpfile taken of one machine and placed on another. Now
 i want to push it to a third, i was wondering if this were doable? Machine 3
 does not have dump/restore on it can't get it, so needs to have it sent over
 an encrypted ssh connection. Suggestions welcome.
 Thanks.
 Dave.
 

Can you mount the files system(s) with nfsd?

Regards,
-- 
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 It's always darkest before the dawn. So if you are going to
 steal the neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.
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Re: restoring a dump file across the network

2009-06-30 Thread Doug Poland
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 03:40:07PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote:
 On 6/30/09, Dave dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello,
  I've got a dumpfile taken of one machine and placed on another.
  Now i want to push it to a third, i was wondering if this were
  doable? Machine 3 does not have dump/restore on it can't get it,
  so needs to have it sent over an encrypted ssh connection.
 

 If you don't have the restore program, a dumpfile won't help you.
 You'd have to tar with permissions and untar on the opposite side.

A technique I've used with success in the past is nc(1).

receiver# cd /somewhere
receiver# nc -l 1234 | restore -rf-
sender%  nc receiver 1234  dumpfile

YMMV

Regards,
Doug

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Trouble Upgrading VIM

2009-06-30 Thread APseudoUtopia
Hey,

I emailed the list about two weeks ago, but received no responses. I'm
having problems upgrading the VIM-Lite port from version 7.2.171 to
7.2.209. I'm getting the following error:

= 7.2.041% doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/vim.
= Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/.
fetch: http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.041%: Bad Request

This Bad Request continues for all the mirrors of the patch file. It
seems that a percent sign is being appended to the URL for some
reason. I was informed on IRC that this was a known problem and it was
corrected some time ago. I have been updating my ports tree both daily
(via the cron option) and immediately before I try updating. I use
Portsnap to update the tree. This did not solve the problem. I then
deleted my entire ports tree, along with all files in
/var/db/portsnap, then ran portsnap fetch extract. After extracting an
entirely new ports tree, the error upgrading VIM-Lite still occurred.

Any ideas on how to solve this problem? It's been going on for some time now.
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Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM

2009-06-30 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:15 PM, APseudoUtopiaapseudouto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey,

 I emailed the list about two weeks ago, but received no responses. I'm
 having problems upgrading the VIM-Lite port from version 7.2.171 to
 7.2.209. I'm getting the following error:

 = 7.2.041% doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/vim.
 = Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/.
 fetch: http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.041%: Bad Request


I saw this in a thread a few days (weeks) ago.

Try putting quotes around the patch with the % sign.  That is
(most likely) what is causing problems.

I thought this was patched -- is your ports tree current?

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Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM

2009-06-30 Thread APseudoUtopia
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:15 PM, APseudoUtopiaapseudouto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey,

 I emailed the list about two weeks ago, but received no responses. I'm
 having problems upgrading the VIM-Lite port from version 7.2.171 to
 7.2.209. I'm getting the following error:

 = 7.2.041% doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/vim.
 = Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/.
 fetch: http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.041%: Bad Request


 I saw this in a thread a few days (weeks) ago.

 Try putting quotes around the patch with the % sign.  That is
 (most likely) what is causing problems.

 I thought this was patched -- is your ports tree current?

 --
 Glen Barber


Yes, it is current (I mentioned this in the original email).

I run portsnap fetch update on a daily basis. This didn't solve the
problem after a week or so, so I decided to `rm -rf /usr/ports/*` and
run portsnap fetch extract to see if it helped. It did not.

Do you mean editing the Makefile and adding quotes? I'll try doing
that now and see if it works.
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Re: s...@home

2009-06-30 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 6/30/09, Stefan Miklosovic miklosovic.free...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi all,

 I would like to install s...@home client to my machine,
 There are tutorials on internet how to install it, but it is all
 about package called simply setiathome. I dont see
 such package in a port tree. I was searching for similar
 one, it seems I found it :

 /usr/ports/astro/boinc-setiathome-enhanced

 If i go to install it, it is about instaling ~30 ports as well,
 most of them is xorg related.

 I do not want to install these X related packages at all.
 It seems futile to having written WITHOUT_X11=yes in
 /etc/make.conf.

 Could I have s...@home client without X packages?

I think you only need to install boinc-client and download right
file(s) from seti webpage.

-- 
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Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM

2009-06-30 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:48 PM, APseudoUtopiaapseudouto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it is current (I mentioned this in the original email).

Sorry, I missed it initially.


 I run portsnap fetch update on a daily basis. This didn't solve the
 problem after a week or so, so I decided to `rm -rf /usr/ports/*` and
 run portsnap fetch extract to see if it helped. It did not.

 Do you mean editing the Makefile and adding quotes? I'll try doing
 that now and see if it works.


Here's the PR that was filed as a result of the original thread:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=136027

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Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-06-30 Thread Paul B. Mahol
On 6/30/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote:
 hi there,

 i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open `ee` in an
 xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to enter commands
 which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee was running
 on
 the output is a mess.

 i'm running r195173 (HEAD).

Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use?

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Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM

2009-06-30 Thread APseudoUtopia
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Glen Barberglen.j.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:48 PM, APseudoUtopiaapseudouto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, it is current (I mentioned this in the original email).

 Sorry, I missed it initially.


 I run portsnap fetch update on a daily basis. This didn't solve the
 problem after a week or so, so I decided to `rm -rf /usr/ports/*` and
 run portsnap fetch extract to see if it helped. It did not.

 Do you mean editing the Makefile and adding quotes? I'll try doing
 that now and see if it works.


 Here's the PR that was filed as a result of the original thread:
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=136027

 --
 Glen Barber


Thanks. I changed some stuff in my Makefile around from the PR and it
solved the problem.

I appreciate it. I'm not sure why portsnap isn't receiving the updated
file. It seems very odd.
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Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM

2009-06-30 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:16 PM, APseudoUtopiaapseudouto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks. I changed some stuff in my Makefile around from the PR and it
 solved the problem.

 I appreciate it. I'm not sure why portsnap isn't receiving the updated
 file. It seems very odd.


It isn't receiving the file update because it hasn't been committed
yet.  Glad it worked though.

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Re: Trouble Upgrading VIM

2009-06-30 Thread Herbert J. Skuhra
At Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:15:06 -0400,
APseudoUtopia wrote:
 
 Hey,
 
 I emailed the list about two weeks ago, but received no responses. I'm
 having problems upgrading the VIM-Lite port from version 7.2.171 to
 7.2.209. I'm getting the following error:
 
 = 7.2.041% doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/vim.
 = Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/.
 fetch: http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/patches/7.2/7.2.041%: Bad Request
 
 This Bad Request continues for all the mirrors of the patch file. It
 seems that a percent sign is being appended to the URL for some
 reason. I was informed on IRC that this was a known problem and it was
 corrected some time ago. I have been updating my ports tree both daily
 (via the cron option) and immediately before I try updating. I use
 Portsnap to update the tree. This did not solve the problem. I then
 deleted my entire ports tree, along with all files in
 /var/db/portsnap, then ran portsnap fetch extract. After extracting an
 entirely new ports tree, the error upgrading VIM-Lite still occurred.
 
 Any ideas on how to solve this problem? It's been going on for some time now.

The vim port uses a modified patch and therefore the file was renamed
(7.2.041%). It's not available from the official vim mirrors.

Don't hit ^C during make fetch. The last site will serve you the file.

= Attempting to fetch from 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/obrien/.
7.2.041%  100% of   21 kB   38 kBps

Or run:

# cd /usr/ports/distfiles/vim/
# fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/obrien/7.2.041%

- Herbert
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Re: strange ee behaviour

2009-06-30 Thread Alexander Best
i'm running xorg-7.4.2 and x11-wm/awesome on HEAD (r195173). when i run ee in
the debugger and open another xterm the debugger says Program exited
normally.. so it's not a program crash i guess.

Paul B. Mahol schrieb am 2009-07-01:
 On 6/30/09, Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote:
  hi there,

  i'm experiencing this strange `ee` behaviour lately. when i open
  `ee` in an
  xterm and open another xterm `ee` simply exits. if i try to enter
  commands
  which output to sdtout/stderr like `ls` on the xterm window ee was
  running
  on
  the output is a mess.

  i'm running r195173 (HEAD).

 Can't reproduce. Which X environment do you use?

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