Re: umass detected, but da is never created
rod person wrote: I had this problem with an iPod also. When I switch to using firewire for the iPod it then worked fine. I've read that there is some problem with Apples usb2 code. The Mac OS X code is certainly not the *BSD code, at least on the computer end. I have a camera (Premier DC-5085) which won't work under FreeBSD or Linux (gives Buffer I/O error on device) but works just fine as a umass device under Mac OS X 10.4.3. The camera is cheap, so I wouldn't be surprised if they cut corners on the USB interface or code. Worthy of further investigation ... - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSD Question's.
Daniel A. wrote: One Linux distribution in particular that I think you might like, is Ubuntu. You can download it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/, or order a CD (Free shipping, free CD, you pay nothing). Seconded. I put Ubuntu on my laptop after FreeBSD 5 wouldn't behave. It's Debian-based, so it's technically sensible, and Ubuntu work VERY hard to have stuff Just Work. I routinely recommend it to people who want to try something else because they're bloody sick of Windows sucking. I also recommend anyone working on the FreeBSD ports/packages system to try Ubuntu and the Synaptic Package Manager (a nice graphical frontend to apt). It's RIDICULOUSLY easy to use and there's little excuse for doing any less well. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My KDE taskbar and desktop have disappeared
Ashley Moran wrote: Does anyone know what I can do to fix this, or where the error is logged so I can work out what's up? if you can get a command line up, can you do nohup kicker ? (I have to restart kicker every month or two) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: foobarred installation?
RW wrote: From what I've read I wouldn't recommend amd64 for a desktop, as two many things are broken, for example 3-d support for your nvidia card. That's a pity ... I was thinking in terms of an uber-l33t dual-AMD64 beast machine running FreeBSD 6 (or maybe 7 by the time I get around to it) for my next desktop. (Not that I ever sit at my desktop any more, and am about to repurpose my FBSD 5 desktop as FBSD 6 and very much a household *server*.) Is there a list or project page on precisely what needs fixing on amd64? (I could always run Ubuntu, but I have my laptop for that ...) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Device needed to manage several FreeBSD servers
RW wrote: On Saturday 17 December 2005 23:11, patrick wrote: I have a bunch of FreeBSD servers to manage, and I'm wanting to find a device that lets you SSH/telnet in, and access the servers connected to it via serial cables. I know such a device exists, but it was a long time ago since I last saw one, and I'm not really sure what one of these would be called. Has anyone had any experience with such a device? I've heard them called Terminal Servers, but that name is also used in the sense of Windows Terminal Server. Console server, specifically remote serial console servers. You can make one yourself with a PC and a bunch of serial cards very easily (using conserver(8)) - or (a better idea in a commercial setting) buy them as a supported piece of hardware. It doesn't matter for FreeBSD on a PC, but if you're running Suns then important matters include not sending BREAKs down the line at inopportune moments. I asked about this on my LiveJournal and got quite informative responses: http://www.livejournal.com/users/reddragdiva/241324.html - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP ScanJet 4100c?
Gary Kline wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 08:19:21PM -0500, Anish Mistry wrote: Check out if sane supports it. I'm in a similar situation with a HP Scanjet 6200C. The driver on the HP isn't actually a driver so the scanner is useless in Windows. I booted into FreeBSD, kldload uscanner, and started xsane, it worked perfectly. I haven't tried the OCR part of xsane, but it should work. Whoa, the online sane docs say that 4100C is supported. The next obstacle is the USB jack. Even my 1999 test e-machine has a usb thing hidden somewhere in front. This box, tao, is a barebones box I built in 08/2001; so I'm sure it's got a usb port somewhere. If it doesn't have USB, you can buy a four-port USB 2.0 PCI card for a few bucks. We did this on all our PCs and the Mac, because it's just so much more convenient than messing about with USB hubs and a rat's nest of cables. Do I have to build it into the kernel or what? IOW, what's the deal with USB stuff? I've had enough headbanging with ye olden COM[1234] ports. But it's time to get my fingers wet. USB Just Works in my experience. (And if you add a USB card, I've yet to have one that didn't Just Work either.) PS: FWIW: my friend said that something-OCR was built-in. That I don't know about. There's a program called gocr, but I've never managed to beat it into working properly ... still, being able to do the scan itself is an excellent start, because in the worst case you can get the TIFFs to a machine that does have good OCR. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
Danial Thom wrote: developers that is lost. Their theory on how to build a better mousetrap for MP is completely wrong, and now they're going to try something else, using the entire FreeBSD community as guinea pigs. First 5.4 was the answer. Then 6.0. Now it looks like 6.0 sucks too. Its a damn shame. Question: how's DragonFly looking on this score? I realise it's not production ready, but the project intrigues me. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
Danial Thom wrote: I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... you still have to fiddle with /boot/loader.conf to get the sound to go, which is completely braindead, but I'm sure it'll be up to the standard of Linux distros 2001. I would suggest a song about Pokemon sex toys. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
Danial Thom wrote: --- David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danial Thom wrote: I vote for Look what they've done to my song, Ma - a commentary on the destruction of the (formally) world's best operating system. So far I'm finding 6.x a heck of a lot better than 5.x. The mousewheel just works, a lot more of the ports just work, sound works ... you still have to fiddle with /boot/loader.conf to get the sound to go, which is completely braindead, but I'm sure it'll be up to the standard of Linux distros 2001. I was referring to 4.x vs 5.x+ of course Ah, of course! I agree. But 6.x is sucking a lot less than 5.x for me. Haven't tried the linux-compat yet. I would suggest a song about Pokemon sex toys. I still think we need this. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Freebsd Theme Song
Kris Kennaway wrote: The thing you have to remember about Denial is that the ONLY THING he cares about in an OS is how fast it can route network packets. The major improvements in other areas of FreeBSD are of absolutely no interest to him, therefore the whole thing is a waste of time. Huh. But I found 5.x vastly annoying in all sorts of little ways when 4.x seemed to Just Work. I realise this is entirely subjective, but it was noticeable. But anyway, FreeBSD 6.0 is hugely superior to 5.4 and 4.11 in filesystem performance. I have been measuring this carefully for the past couple of months and hope to have the paper out soon. And wifi? Considering mine's the household server and I want to make it all wifi to get rid of the damn cat5 everywhere, I really should get to it ;-) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel panic because I pulled a floppy?
Michael P. Soulier wrote: I'm reading BSD Hacks by Dru Lavigne, published by O'Reilly. In the section on managing floppies, it mentions that if you pull a floppy without umounting it first, the next time to try to access the filesystem, you'll get a kernel panic. Is this true? If so, it would be the very first Unix that I've seen crash from this kind of user-mistake. I've crashed 5.x by pulling a USB umass device and then trying to look at the directory where it was mounted. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Showing Beastie at boot?
Sean wrote: Chris wrote: RW wrote: On Tuesday 22 November 2005 23:44, Lowell Gilbert wrote: David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 5.4 showed an ASCII Beastie at boot, 6.0 shows FreeBSD in awful ASCII-art text. As a Beastie traditionalist, what's the option to display Beastie again? loader_logo (``fbsdbw'') Actually, that isn't in the 6.0 release: loader_logo=beastie in loader.conf gave me technicolour beastie on a 6.0R box Tried it on mine, looks neat. Excellent! Much better! loader_logo=pokemonsextoy didn't give the result one might expect. This may or may not be a good thing. I expect someone should submit the patch just for the joy of having someone have to say why they're rejecting it. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Showing Beastie at boot?
eoghan wrote: Chris wrote: loader_logo=beastie in loader.conf gave me technicolour beastie on a 6.0R box Where do you find the loader.conf? /boot/loader.conf - see man loader.conf for how to use this. Note that I expect to see my technicolour Beastie very infrequently indeed, since it only shows at boot time ;-) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Showing Beastie at boot?
5.4 showed an ASCII Beastie at boot, 6.0 shows FreeBSD in awful ASCII-art text. As a Beastie traditionalist, what's the option to display Beastie again? - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GLX extension in Xorg? (5.4 and 6.0)
I have a 5.4 and a 6.0 box here, both with Xorg installed from ports. When running xscreensaver, half the time they come up saying the GLX extension isn't loaded. And, of course, they can't run glxgears for the same reason. The thing is, I can't find which port installs this extension. Is there one? -d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED: GLX extension in Xorg? (5.4 and 6.0)
Chris Hill wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, David Gerard wrote: I have a 5.4 and a 6.0 box here, both with Xorg installed from ports. When running xscreensaver, half the time they come up saying the GLX extension isn't loaded. And, of course, they can't run glxgears for the same reason. The thing is, I can't find which port installs this extension. Is there one? In /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I have the following: Section Module Load extmod Load glx Uh. Buh. Could I just take my Dumbarse Award? Solution to my problem: If you want GLX to work ... it helps to uncomment the Load glx line! That was it - that was the whole problem. Now both machines are cranking away the ol' glxgears very happily. I fully expect xscreensaver to show me many new and wonderful things as well. (Three years I had that error ...) - d. *thud* *thud* *thud* ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting a Netgear WG511T recognized on 5.4/6.0...
Brian J. McGovern ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050824 10:59]: I have a HP AMD64 laptop (Pavillion zv5000) with a built-in Broadcom wireless card that doesn't appear to be supported, so I picked up a WG511T, which claims to be supported by the ath man page. I have a WG511T here running *fairly* well under Linux on the ath driver (MAD WiFi), so it should at least be possible in theory. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Restarting X server within KDE?
Many years ago, I ran fvwm2 under Solaris. It actually had a menu option set up whereby you could restart the X server without all your X clients dying. I really wanted this the other week when KDE went weird on me and the mouse pointer disappeared. (After only two months! With this sort of unreliability, open source will never be ready for Joe Consumer.) How does one restart the X server without it killing all the clients? - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSDir.com Screenshots of your FreeBSD 6.0-BETA1 release
Subhro ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050718 14:52]: Secondly, I believe that this concept of posting screenshots is pretty unprofessional and childish. Its like saying Yay! my desktop is prettier than yours. At FreeBSD we concentrate more on quaality than looks. Secondly, FreeBSD does not have any Native GUI unlike few distributions like Mandrake who use a costomized GUI. Thus IMHO a FreeBSD screenshot would just be a black screen with some scribbles on it :-). The boot screen with the ASCII Beastie! - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux move to FreeBSD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050703 23:08]: FreeBSD looks like a good stating place for me, but one think about FreeBSD makes me uncomfortable is the symbol/emblem that the OS uses. That is a devil ! I would like to know if possible how this came about, and what thinking was behind it. From experience, I consider symbols to be very significant, Historically, psychologically and even spiritually. I use FreeBSD because in my religion, Scientology, penguins were considered the avatars of the Galactic Emperor Xenu when he brought the Galactic Citizens down to Earth and exploded them around volcanoes. This is why Linux is so annoying to administer - the kernel is covered in what Ayn Rand (founder of Scientology) termed penguin thetans, commonly abbreviated TUX. Penguin thetans are commonly found under bridges and have a long-standing grudge against gruff billygoats. I hope this helps in the application of comparative religion to operating system mascots. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form.
Benjamin Keating ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050504 10:00]: Is there anything being done to help keep the handbook just a little more updated? It's a great handbook, if it's content wasn't so out of date. A wiki would be a great way to acheive this. If there isn't a project like it yet, I'd like to propose we set one up. I can contribute quite a bit of time and resources towards this. Save me wiki.freebsd.org and I'll get a move on! Seconded. I read it and wish for such a thing (rather than the bug-patch-wait-wait-wait cycle). Wish we'd had MediaWiki on hand for Mozilla 1.0 three years ago. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The FreeBSD Handbook, in Wiki form.
Karel Miklav ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050504 21:19]: Benjamin Keating wrote: A wiki would be a great way to acheive this. If there isn't a project like it yet, I'd like to propose we set one up. I can contribute quite a bit of time and resources towards this. Save me wiki.freebsd.org and I'll get a move on! What about http://www.freebsdwiki.net? It needs a better home page and some content, but it's there. Besides, I completely agree with you that wiki-kind software must replace all pointless hand-editing and mail shuffling. If it fits in enough with what they want to do, it might be just the right place for a wiki-developed version of the Handbook. (The PR-patch-wait-wait-wait cycle really is incredibly painful and a frequently convincing reason to just not bother.) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
more Cameron Grant info
I was asked to forward this URL too: http://www.idea-inc.com/~bee/cam/index.html Please forward to any relevant FreeBSD list or whatever! - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vale Cameron Grant (cg@freebsd.org), 8 July 1976 - 20 March 2005
Further on the below: Cameron's funeral is Friday 8th April, 2pm, at Garston Crematorium in Hertfordshire. Kris would like as many people who knew Cameron along as possible. If you think you can make it, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to RSVP, for directions, etc. The chapel fits 35-40, but if you want to come there will almost certainly be room for you. Just RSVP :-) The cause of death turned out to be pulmonary thrombosis - the sort of thing that could happen to anyone, but Cam was at higher risk because of his illnesses. In good news, Kris is OK to stay in the UK :-) But speaking for myself, I suspect she could do with some of your overpaid geek bucks to help in the short term, with living expenses and the funeral! See http://www.dbsi.org/cam.html for full details. And I didn't say on the message below, but please do forward this to anywhere in the FreeBSD community you think people should know! - d. David Gerard wrote: For those who haven't heard, FreeBSD committer Cameron Grant died suddenly on Sunday morning. Cameron was well known for his keen mind and personality, but his body didn't work so well. The cause of death has yet to be established, but he spent many years suffering from neurological diseases that left him living on machines. There's a page up at http://www.dbsi.org/cam.html which gives more details and notes of suitable charities to donate to rather than send flowers, etc. Note that the first listed charity is his widow, Kris [though she's on that list only at the insistence of others] - she was working as Cameron's carer, and now that's stopped she has no income for the moment, maybe no house and maybe no way to stay in the UK. So a bit of assistance from these lists full of overpaid geeks would probably be quite helpful right now! I only knew Cam in passing via others, but thought someone should tell the FreeBSD community. (cc'd to Kris) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vale Cameron Grant (cg@freebsd.org), 8 July 1976 - 20 March 2005
For those who haven't heard, FreeBSD committer Cameron Grant died suddenly on Sunday morning. Cameron was well known for his keen mind and personality, but his body didn't work so well. The cause of death has yet to be established, but he spent many years suffering from neurological diseases that left him living on machines. There's a page up at http://www.dbsi.org/cam.html which gives more details and notes of suitable charities to donate to rather than send flowers, etc. Note that the first listed charity is his widow, Kris [though she's on that list only at the insistence of others] - she was working as Cameron's carer, and now that's stopped she has no income for the moment, maybe no house and maybe no way to stay in the UK. So a bit of assistance from these lists full of overpaid geeks would probably be quite helpful right now! I only knew Cam in passing via others, but thought someone should tell the FreeBSD community. (cc'd to Kris) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such asNetBSD!!!
Anthony Atkielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050210 20:34]: Ted Mittelstaedt writes: Yep, I was wondering how long it would take before someone figured this one out. We know the real rea$on$ that this logo change is being contemplated, don't we. Personally, I wonder how FreeBSD survives based exclusively on volunteer efforts. It's a noble idea, but in the real world, things cost money, and people need to earn a living. Something that survives exclusively from the kindness of strangers leads a fragile existence. FreeBSD has a large following and seems reasonably stable, but when something is a volunteer effort, the larger the following, the better. Netcraft confirms it: FreeBSD is dying! I'd rather see effort towards some of the really *stupid* bugs in 5.x that languish for months with a fix included. Like linux-pango being broken, meaning that by default you can't actually run a lot of recent Linux binaries (a Thunderbird nightly got me on that one). Or /etc/fstab allowing msdos as a disk type but fsck not, and the fsck refusing to accept the fix despite the system inconsistency. *Stupid* little things like that are actually the most distressing thing about 5.x - I use FreeBSD because it mostly does The Right Thing. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please don't change Beastie to another crap logo such asNetBSD!!!
David Gerard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050210 20:41]: I'd rather see effort towards some of the really *stupid* bugs in 5.x that languish for months with a fix included. Like linux-pango being broken, meaning that by default you can't actually run a lot of recent Linux binaries (a Thunderbird nightly got me on that one). Or /etc/fstab allowing msdos as a disk type but fsck not, and the fsck refusing to accept the fix despite the system inconsistency. *Stupid* little things like that are actually the most distressing thing about 5.x - I use FreeBSD because it mostly does The Right Thing. I meant, of course, the fsck.c maintainer. I certainly do not wish to call someone a fsck ;-) and apologise for any offence given! If the new logo doesn't have horns then it will be prima facie evidence that FreeBSD has been taken over by fsckwits. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Logo Context (baka context)
Luís Vitório Cargnini ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050210 23:02]: For who like the logo, help to save him: http://www.petitiononline.com/fbsdmsc1/petition.html Argh. What idjit made that petition such that signatures are not verified? - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Electricity bill - OT
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050208 15:29]: A lot of new-built houses in the US are installing continuous circulation systems for hot water, which greatly reduces the time the HW heater is running, since when you turn on the hot water, you get instantaneous hot water and don't have to run a ton of water before it gets hot, which reduces the amount of HW wasted. Also, the new tankless HW heaters look interesting... I run my computers all the time, but shut down the ones I rarely use. So my G4 and G5 are on all the time (unless I leave the house for an Obviously you need to run your hot water system through the servers. Isn't the new G5 watercooled? - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: favor
Anthony Atkielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050208 03:08]: An alternative is to make the archive accessible only to current members, and to purge posts from any member who leaves the list. There's still a bit of risk in that but it eliminates most potential objections. That would sorta suck. I know I write my questions and answers with a view to them being searchable on the web maybe months or years later, as I know how very grateful I am to those whose archived words have helped me before. So it helps the copyright situation, but breaks the usefulness of any archive. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: favor
Anthony Atkielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050208 03:16]: David Gerard writes: DG That would sorta suck. I know I write my questions and answers with DG a view to them being searchable on the web maybe months or years DG later, as I know how very grateful I am to those whose archived DG words have helped me before. Having to search an archive of e-mail messages as a substitute for real support sucks to begin with. I've almost never found anything useful when searching the archives, and even when I have, it takes longer to find it in the archives than it does to just ask the question again. I go to a site called google.com and I enter error messages verbatim, and often what comes back is a pile of mailing list posts. They are far superior to nothing. DG So it helps the copyright situation, but breaks the usefulness of DG any archive. The copyright situation is an unavoidable legal mandate, not an option. You cannot defend against an infringement action by saying that respecting copyright would have been inconvenient for you. Of course. However, I am pointing out that the searchable archive on the web is a fantastically useful thing and worth trying to preserve, not a minor detail not worth considering in the search for a resolution. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: favor
Anthony Atkielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050208 03:53]: David Gerard writes: DG I go to a site called google.com and I enter error messages DG verbatim, and often what comes back is a pile of mailing list posts. DG They are far superior to nothing. No doubt, but they are far inferior to a formal, well-organized support system. Actually, I most profitably apply it in my day job, which is administering Solaris ;-) The purpose of vendors is to say to your boss that you have an SLA; getting actual *support* out of anyone (with exceptions like NetApp) is something best avoided IME. The lack of support and accountability is FreeBSD's greatest handicap for corporate and mission-critical use. Certainly, the OS is solid and reliable; but if and when it fails, there's nowhere to turn. Corporate arse-covering rather than actual support, but yeah. I am told the horrible tale of a friend who is having to shift a pile of servers from FreeBSD to Red Hat because Red Hat have SLAs and they couldn't find sufficiently corporate-looking support for FreeBSD that did. This same problem afflicts just about all open-source software, and will prove to be a limiting factor in the adoption of open source for the forseeable future. The trick will be to get organisations offering SLAs interested in the program. Even then the fact that it's hard to undercut $0 is a powerful factor in its spread. That is, if fame is your interest; FreeBSD's is mostly to do a very nice operating system. NetBSD's interest is even less oriented in this direction - they want to produce a beautiful piece of computer science. DG Of course. However, I am pointing out that the searchable archive on DG the web is a fantastically useful thing and worth trying to DG preserve, not a minor detail not worth considering in the search for DG a resolution. You can preserve it if you place it in the proper framework. But you must also recognize that you may not be able to organize it exactly as you wish without infringing the rights of others. Of course. However, I must also point out that avoiding what we at Wikipedia call copyright paranoia is also important. Is someone *actually likely* to sue? Will it be a lone nutter or will there be hundreds of people? What could be argued to be the reasonable expectation? What constitutes fair use? When can no harm no foul be likely to apply? These questions require actual Combat Lawyers and aren't going to be sorted out in idle mailing list chitchat. Realistically: a FreeBSD mailing list copyright apocalypse is not likely. If it seems likely, there are enough soft steps to take first. The sky is not in fact falling. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WORKAR?OUND: dhclient problems in 5.3-RELEASE
David Gerard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050124 05:34]: This afternoon, I set up a new machine with 5.3-RELEASE. Started with three 5.3-beta5 floppies, told it I wanted 5.3-RELEASE from a CD-R, installed minimal base, man pages and ports, created two users. On reboot, I ran dhclient and it completely failed to get an IP address. But I know the cable is good and the DHCP server is working, because I booted the box in question into Windows and it grabbed an IP just fine. So where do I start on diagnosing what's up with this installation? Workaround: I downloaded dhclient-2.0pl5 from isc.org and installed that. And it works fine. That's a crusty and not thoroughly secure version, but this box is behind NAT and a firewall so is safe enough for now. Since I installed 5.3-RELEASE as a minimal base-only system specifically so as to install as much as possible from ports for upgradability, I hope that doesn't foul that up! - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how do i get freebsd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050202 01:03]: hi my name is mark I'm new to freebsd.i was wanting to know how, i can get it or which one i should get. if some one could help me that would be cool thanks. Start at http://www.freebsd.org/where.html and go for FreeBSD 5.3, which is the current stable release. You should probably read the handbook too: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scroll whell on FreeBSD 5.3 i386
Michael Madden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050125 06:34]: What is the secret to getting my scroll wheel working on FreeBSD 5.3? If have the following added to /etc/rc.conf: And I'm having ... the same problem with 5.3! And I couldn't get a solution that worked either! http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-September/059325.html Mine is a Compaq (Logitech) USB optical mouse. The machine is a Compaq AP400 Personal Workstation. What's yours? - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dhclient problems in 5.3-RELEASE
This afternoon, I set up a new machine with 5.3-RELEASE. Started with three 5.3-beta5 floppies, told it I wanted 5.3-RELEASE from a CD-R, installed minimal base, man pages and ports, created two users. On reboot, I ran dhclient and it completely failed to get an IP address. But I know the cable is good and the DHCP server is working, because I booted the box in question into Windows and it grabbed an IP just fine. So where do I start on diagnosing what's up with this installation? - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dhclient problems in 5.3-RELEASE
Hexren ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050124 07:02]: DG On reboot, I ran dhclient and it completely failed to get an IP address. DG But I know the cable is good and the DHCP server is working, because I DG booted the box in question into Windows and it grabbed an IP just fine. So DG where do I start on diagnosing what's up with this installation? Start by sniffing the network traffic on the DHCP Server machine while you request an address. See where it differs from the usual. Maybe the problem becomes obvious then. :) As I noted, it served fine to the Windows installation on the same box on the same wire from the same server. Also, just before installing 5.3, it was serving just fine to FreeBSD 4.10 on the same box on the same wire from the same server. The only factor that's different is the software and OS running. I'm wondering what if anything's changed in dhclient between 4.10 and 5.3 ... is there some daft but obvious gotcha I've missed? Or are you saying the 5.3 dhclient is much, much fussier in some way? - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Matthias Buelow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050121 17:21]: David Gerard wrote: So something around 500MHz will happily run Pango and the other cutting-edge internationalisation stuff if you fill it with memory. My experience is that with a 500Mhz Pentium 3 (512K cache, 512mb RAM, Matrox G450 AGP graphics), Gnome (2.6 tested) is unbearably slow. A large factor here is the Xft font rendering (Ok, you could use xterm instead of gnome-terminal, or switch off antialiasing), which is unaccelerated (at least was then), and _brutally_ slow. If you run something with copious output in gnome-terminal, it'll more or less lock up the entire machine. I don't normally use Gnome, but evaluated it on that old machine for some reason that is of no interest here. KDE is a bit faster, don't know why, but seems to use more RAM. IMHO you need at least a 2.8 or 3GHz P-IV for that kind of desktop to get things to run well, and, in my experience, raw CPU power here is the dominating factor. Hrmmm. OK, I was guessing on GNOME. I have read that pango is grossly CPU-hungry, but that the project is keenly aware of the problem. (But refuses to do the easy thing of special optimisation for ISO-8859-1, specifically so that the international stuff will actually get attention.) And that this is the big problem with Gnome terminal. Of course these machines are still perfectly usable with windowmaker, or fvwm, or similar. That's why the underpowered Debian laptop uses twm with programs launched from an xterm ;-) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Anthony Atkielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050121 02:12]: Matthias Buelow writes: MB Wake up from your pipe dreams. Shipping decommissioned computers to the MB 3rd world is not going to solve any development problem. It helps solve an environmental problem, though. And they need not be shipped anywhere. It is sufficient to just continue using them, instead of throwing them away. That's true everywhere in the world. Last year's model is more usable than you might think if you fill it with memory. My desktop is a PII-450. I got two more identical ones free. It's running FreeBSD 5.3 with KDE 3.3 just fine; it would have no problems running current GNOME. The main thing needed in such boxes is *memory* - it's got 768MB. So something around 500MHz will happily run Pango and the other cutting-edge internationalisation stuff if you fill it with memory. Oh, and I *really* want a much bigger hard disk so I can rip more of my CDs at higher quality. I have 60 gig of stuff and it's not enough ;-) The main reason for MHz is media tasks that involve number crunching. I have a Debian laptop, a Pentium MMX 233MHz (Pentium I, not Pentium II). Minimal install - base, then XFree86 4.3 with twm, Firefox, VNC. It has enough CPU to play MP3 or Ogg, but not to play any sort of video. However, 500MHz is enough to play 320x240 video files and to do pretty well on DVDs. So I expect the next big jump in what people think of as CPU requirements will be the next CPU-intensive media format. Or, of course, Longhorn. I'm not sure even KDE with SVG for everything could outdo that ;-) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PDF file editor
E. J. Cerejo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050121 14:58]: Is there a port that allows you to edit a pdf file or fill it in? It appears not - lots of writers and readers, but no *editors* per se. Write one ;-D - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Xian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050119 23:21]: On Wednesday 19 January 2005 08:17, faisal gillani wrote: Well it has been almost a year now since I first tried FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my production server :-) I like I installed FreeBSD on a machine with an Athlon 3200 that I accident under clocked to 1.4GHz. I didn't notice for quite a while as the performance was amazing any way. It didn't half go some when I put the clock speed up to 2.2GHz. I bought an old PC of a friend (-bat from the UK FreeBSD list). I just knew I wanted a free Unix. He said FreeBSD works flawlessly on these. THANK YOU, PETE! I now administer Red Hat as part of my work duties. It's stable, it's industrial strength, it does the job and by crikey it's a stupid incoherent ill-conceived pain in the backside. I may respect Linux, but I don't have to like it. (The GNU tools are lovely IMO. It's doing anything with the kernel. Why they couldn't come up with a simple and elegant idea like /etc/rc.conf ...) next stop OpenSolairs .. :-) I also admin Solaris. It too has its stupidities (mostly cruft from failed marketing initiatives - it's hard to be a good Solaris admin without knowing far too much Unix history), and the userland tools need to be replaced with GNU or FreeBSD equivalents, and it's sorely underoptimised for single-processor boxes. But it's industrial strength and very well documented. Of course, when I was learning Solaris, I tended to read the OpenBSD man pages to understand the command and the Solaris ones for the particular switches in that version ... - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: In reference to the Cheap NAS inquiry....
Martes Wigglesworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050109 04:44]: I am researching the viability of constructing a Network Access Server using FreeBSD, and I came across your post(s) from December 2004. What were you using the acronyme, NAS, to describe? You seemed to be describing a network storage appliance, however, I never got a clear description of what you were using the term for. The context seemed to be such that you would have to have been describing the network storage appliance. Were you talking about a Network Access Server or a Network Application Server? If anyone is familiar with the topics of building Network Access Servers with FreeBSD, I would appreciate any input. Network Attached Storage - a server doing nothing but serving files. NetApp in particular specialise in very good ones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network-attached_storage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NAS - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java
Ted Mittelstaedt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050107 17:37]: David Gerard Ted Mittelstaedt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050106 06:29]: It's of course quite legal for end users to download the JDK directly from Sun and compile it on FreeBSD themselves and then use it. The main problem with this approach is that it requires a ridiculous amount of jumping through hoops - first you have to install the Linux compatibility interface and libraries (20 megabyte download and a reboot?), Are you sure your not talking about the BINARY distributions? I was referring the the source here: http://www.sun.com/software/communitysource/j2se/java2/download.html Only the Java Cryptography Extension is unavailable as source. More info is of course available on the FreeBSD Java mailing list. I'm talking about installing from ports, which goes and compiles all three things (Linux compatibility, Linux Java, FreeBSD Java), I thought. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java
Ted Mittelstaedt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050106 06:29]: It's of course quite legal for end users to download the JDK directly from Sun and compile it on FreeBSD themselves and then use it. The main problem with this approach is that it requires a ridiculous amount of jumping through hoops - first you have to install the Linux compatibility interface and libraries (20 megabyte download and a reboot?), *then* the Linux version of Java (large download) because that's needed to run Sun conformance tests (you can only use Java to test Java), *then* the FreeBSD version. Assuming nothing breaks anywhere in the process. It's ridiculous hair-tearing stuff and led me to formulate: Proprietary software isn't just evil, it's STUPID. (The Linux-compat bit wasn't such a strain for me personally, as my FreeBSD boxes are workstations and I run things like Firefox Linux nightly builds routinely. But for a server doing little other than Java, it's a large amount of cruft to no functional purpose.) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java
Anthony Atkielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050106 12:53]: Tom Vilot writes: TV I prefer to use just about any other tool (except, of course, for TV JSP/.NET, etc). Python, Perl, ... any other tool will do the jobs I TV need done and I can avoid the sluggishness of Java, the licensing TV ambiguities, and the dependence on a company that is *not* a TV software company to begin with! I tend to agree. Are people still using Java? Perl seems to do just about everything. Commercially, yes - particularly for in-house apps, not anything distributed outside. My job is adminning Solaris and Red Hat boxes which are basically running an in-house platform with a pile of custom apps on top, both written in Java. Java's gratis-proprietary license is certainly good enough for our purposes businesswise, and it's cross-platform enough that we've had very little trouble sliding Solaris out from underneath and replacing it with Red Hat (HPaq servers offering a bit more bang for the buck). But you won't see much open-source Java until the license isn't odious. OpenOffice.org only uses it because of Sun. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Worse is better (was Sun revokes FreeBSD license for Java)
Ted Mittelstaedt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050106 18:26]: Name of the game with commercialized technology which is filled with example after of example of second and 3rd rater products that win the market from 1st rater products merely because their marketing is better. Let's see, in automotive we have lapshoulder belts vs 5 point harnesses, or for that matter airbags vs seatbelts, in television we have Betamax vs VHS, in computing we have Windows vs Mac, NT vs OS/2, Linux vs FreeBSD ... ;-) Unix vs. the more correct systems that came before it. See 'Worse is better' and 'The UNIX-HATERS Handbook': http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worse_is_better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX-HATERS_Handbook A lot of it is 'the whole widget' - the technology is worse, but other reasons give a decisive advantage. VHS tapes ran longer sooner than Beta. Unix was cheap and portable. X was open source, NeWS wasn't. Etc. - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cheap NAS using FreeBSD - practical considerations?
Let's say that, as fine as NetApps are, I can't afford their prices. So I set up a FreeBSD box with a whole lot of disk attached and use that as network-attached storage, serving files by NFS, with gigabit ethernet. Setting up such a box is trivially easy. But what are the practical considerations? Have any of you done this, or know anyone who has? Does serving stay at wire speed? Recommendations for motherboards or peripherals? - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBM Thinkpad R31 - use 4.10 or 5.3?
Uwe Laverenz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041218 21:39]: Dave Horsfall wrote: So, the question is: should I be running 4.10 (because I track whatever my boss uses, and my home server uses it for that reason), or should I take the plunge and max-out my ADSL line in downloading 5.3? You should use 5.3, it will run much better on your ThinkPad, it not only supports Cardbus but also has support for ACPI, which I think is quite necessary on a notebook. Does sound work properly in 5.3 on a laptop? I had so much trouble with FreeBSD on a laptop (an old Thinkpad 560X) that I ended up resorting to Debian. Which works well. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Designed for FreeBSD stickers
Haulmark, Chris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041208 07:22]: We show our potential clients to our production server rooms whenever they request for it. They always ask what those (freebsd) servers are running because there are no logo stickers. I ended up sticking a white label with black arial font FreeBSD. Is this what FreeBSD systems deserve? FreeBSDsystems had couple of nice logos on their server packages. I think that we should set few samples up for the community to use. My desktop has a Beastie sticker on it. Dunno where from, but it's a nice one and was put there by the guy I bought the box from. So they exist or have existed. For myself, I want one so I can stick it on my desktop at home so it'll look better to casual computer users and to annoy my wife that my desktop is better than her gentoo desktop. My theory is that penguin and daemon stickers are the modern equivalent of fluffy dice and GT stripes. Blokes used to spend ages fiddling with their cars, now they spend ages fiddling around with PCs. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Handbook copyright license?
What license is the FreeBSD Handbook under? I want to adapt chunks of it for Wikipedia, which is under the GFDL with no invariant texts. Also, are the man pages under the two-clause BSD license? - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mp3, Ogg Players on 5.3
Huw Wynn-Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [041201 05:32]: I'm thinking about buying a portable ogg player for xmas but i can't seem to get clear info from the various shop sites. Does anyone know a player which works with FreeBSD 5.3? Can I just buy anyone I want and then transfer files across as if it were usb storage or do these players have special transfer software? I've seen that most of the players only come with windows software, so I don't want to be stuck with a player that won't talk to my os. As I understand it (I welcome correction!), iRiver are the only ones whose player does Ogg out the box. Unfortunately, it does not act as a umass device and so requires the funky Windows drivers. See review (disclaimer, I'm an editor on the site): http://rocknerd.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/28/0621219mode=nested - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Platforms
Bill Moran wrote: Windows users love Windows at first, then grow to hate it. BSD users hate FreeBSD at first, but grow to love it. Windows is a luxury car with all the electric devices and trim. And it's all shoddy and breaks in a few months. Unix is a Land Rover with NOTHING fitted. But everything you install properly stays there and keeps working. (Linux users hate FreeBSD until they realise the pain in their forehead has mysteriously vanished.) - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mouse wheel on XOrg 6.7.0 (FreeBSD 5.3-beta5)
I've just installed the latest 5.3 beta with XOrg 6.7.0. The mouse works, except I can't get the mouse wheel to work. The mouse section of xorg.conf is as follows: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol Auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option Buttons 5 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection The last two option lines are as the XFree86 config on my old 4.x install was. Is there something simple and obvious I haven't done? - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse wheel on XOrg 6.7.0 (FreeBSD 5.3-beta5)
Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just installed the latest 5.3 beta with XOrg 6.7.0. The mouse works, except I can't get the mouse wheel to work. The mouse section of xorg.conf is as follows: I recently switched to X.org without changing any of my configuration. My mouse section looks like this: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol SysMouse Option Device /dev/sysmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Works fine. I guess you have to change the protocol to SysMouse. Alex de Kruijff wrote: This needs to go in /etc/rc.conf moused_flags=-a .4 moused_port=/dev/psm0 moused_type=auto moused_enable=YES The value afther a is a correction factor. Unfortunately, neither of these suggestions work, either separately or together! More detail: the mouse is a Compaq (Logitech) USB optical mouse. I did try moused_port=/dev/ums0 as well. Any other ideas? - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse wheel on XOrg 6.7.0 (FreeBSD 5.3-beta5)
Joe Altman wrote: On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 12:44:46PM +0100, David Gerard wrote: The mouse section of xorg.conf is as follows: Option Protocol Auto Case on the word auto? Check the log to see if the Protocol Auto is unknown, or otherwise throws an error. Appears not: (**) Option Protocol Auto (**) Mouse1: Device: /dev/sysmouse (**) Mouse1: Protocol: Auto (**) Option CorePointer (**) Mouse1: Core Pointer (**) Option Device /dev/sysmouse (==) Mouse1: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (==) Mouse1: Buttons: 3 (II) Keyboard Keyboard1 handled by legacy driver (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Mouse1 (type: MOUSE) (II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0 (II) Mouse1: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse wheel on XOrg 6.7.0 (FreeBSD 5.3-beta5)
Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: I have been using PS/2 for mouse and keyboard since I got my first ATX-board. I tried a USB-mouse once, under Linux, and it didn't work, so I never tried again... ;-/ If it has to do with the mouse being a USB-mouse, I'm out of my element. =( The same mouse on the same box worked in 4.x with XFree86, that's what's so odd about this ... But wait, does moused work? If not, is it giving any error messages? Seems to work - I have a mouse cursor when not in X. If moused does not work - or doesn't work with the mousewheel, anyway - X.org won't support the mousewheel, either. You can also try to configure moused via /sbin/sysinstall. Did that :-) Thanks anyway :-) - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Alcatel SpeedTouch 330 USB + FreeBSD 5.2.1 + PPPoE -- a nightmare!
Hugo Silva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040829 08:53]: Today I went to a friend's house to install FreeBSD on his workstation, trying to make him change to open source software. I am a cable user and he has ADSL. I had never configured ADSL on FreeBSD, nor USB connections to the net. So I did some pre-reading on the handbook and some tutorials.. I tried configuring one of these things for FreeBSD. The web page directions were extremely simple, with the minor problem that they, ahh, didn't work. (Even had a bit on UK connections - I'm in the UK.) I never did get it to work right. I am now using a Speedtouch 510, which does the connection itself, and can be confitured using a web interface (it was *easier* to configure using the web interface via FreeBSD than using its custom application on Windows!) or even by telneting directly to the device - ah, bliss ;-) - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tool to rotate AVIs?
I have a shiny new digital camera, a Casio EX-S20. Haven't got it talking to the FreeBSD box yet (though it claims to do umass), but that's another story. It does video clips as AVIs. The AVIs are viewable in KDE3 aKtion!, so that's fine. But I'm after a tool to rotate them from landscape to portrait, losslessly. I know this can be done with JPEGs using jpegtran to manipulate the file - is a similar trick possible with AVIs? Or only with certain formats of AVI? How do I tell? etc. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cardbus - on 4.x, or still 5.x only?
Is PCMCIA CardBus support in 4.x as yet (if it ever will be), or is it still a 5.x-only thing? - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 4.9 installation woes (on thinkpad 560X)
On 03/17/04 00:09, David Gerard wrote: I was advised by a few people (including the laptop's previous owner) that FreeBSD 5.x would be quite difficult to get working with sound, and that it would be a better idea to try with 4.9. I have just spent a few hours carefully reinstalling the laptop with FreeBSD 4.9. Restart for its first boot ... and it won't. It sits there at F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD Default: F2 _ and seems to consider the keyboard beneath its notice. Odd, since the caps lock light goes on and off as expected. But nothing will get it off this screen. The DOS partition is a 20 meg partition for IBM system tools, as yet not installed. It's also before the FreeBSD partition on the disk, if that's relevant. Wiped and tried again. First with the whole disk as a FreeBSD partition, to see if 4.9 would go on at all (it did). Then with FreeBSD as the *first* partition, and a DOS partition taking the other half of the disk (my wife has decided the laptop will be more usable dual-booting into Windows). Now it's working fine :-) Still haven't got sound going, but will let the list know when I do! - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4.9 installation woes (on thinkpad 560X)
I was advised by a few people (including the laptop's previous owner) that FreeBSD 5.x would be quite difficult to get working with sound, and that it would be a better idea to try with 4.9. I have just spent a few hours carefully reinstalling the laptop with FreeBSD 4.9. Restart for its first boot ... and it won't. It sits there at F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD Default: F2 _ and seems to consider the keyboard beneath its notice. Odd, since the caps lock light goes on and off as expected. But nothing will get it off this screen. The DOS partition is a 20 meg partition for IBM system tools, as yet not installed. It's also before the FreeBSD partition on the disk, if that's relevant. Is there anything I can do apart from starting over? (And how to make sure it doesn't do this again?) - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Personal IP telephony software for FreeBSD and Windows?
Living in the UK, a happy land of timed phone calls, and with a DSL that can certainly spare 9600bps up and down for a voice channel, I've decided it's time to look into personal IP telephone software. I know there's lots of it about. What I'm looking for is something that's available for *nix and Windows. And which preferably has an open source client on the *nix end, though that's not mandatory. Any ideas? - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED: Can't install gaim on FreeBSD 4.x
On 12/01/03 16:33, Lowell Gilbert wrote: David Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gaim requires perl 5.8 or higher just to be installed - its 'l33t++ custom configurator thingy requires it. The 5.005 that comes with FreeBSD 4.8 is not sufficient. That's not true. I just did it (on -STABLE, and with the latest ports, but with the stock perl 5.005_03. That's weird, 'cos it's a FAQ on the Gaim site that it wants =5.8, and the Perl wouldn't work with the stock 5.005_03 but did with 5.8.1 from packages ... so the port patches Gaim's Perl code? - cvsupit your ports cvsupit has been gone for some time, and hadn't really worked for a while before that. [which is why it's gone] I'm sure Liz (my wife) says that's what she ran for it. Must have been something else, then. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED: Can't install gaim on FreeBSD 4.x
On 11/25/03 22:06, David Gerard wrote: Has anyone got gaim 0.71 or later working on FreeBSD 4.x? What did you do to get it working? The answer, short form: Sacrifice Linuxism-infested w33n0rs to the Great God Knuth. Ha! Only kidding. [*] The answer, longer form: Gaim requires perl 5.8 or higher just to be installed - its 'l33t++ custom configurator thingy requires it. The 5.005 that comes with FreeBSD 4.8 is not sufficient. So: - cvsupit your ports - install Perl 5.8.1 (we installed from the package, it works fine) - make install Gaim - make deinstall/make install libatk and libgtk along the way (we did actually have the right versions installed - it just didn't *think* we did) - force install on Gaim (it won't actually let you remove the old version) - put in a symlink from libatk-1.0.so.400 to libatk-1.0.so.200, because the install process trashes the latter. The answer, as just ranted in my LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/reddragdiva/106318.html - d. [*] I would need to catch them first. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't install gaim on FreeBSD 4.x
On 11/26/03 01:52, Bryan Cassidy wrote: Why not just use the ports? Works fine on my end with FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE 'Cos the port in 4.8-RELEASE is 0.59, and the new MSN protocol is only in 0.71 or later. Now messing with cvsup ... - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't install gaim on FreeBSD 4.x
We're trying to install gaim on a 4.8-RELEASE box, and it's acting like the package is broken. lilith# pkg_add -v gaim-0.72.tar Requested space: 42147840 bytes, free space: 46554032128 bytes in /var/tmp/instmp.ko8CO8 pkg_add: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts ja-gaim-*' lilith# Er, huh? I got the same on a 4.6.2 box. Compiling from source gives a failure, which appears to be from Linuxisms in the source. Has anyone got gaim 0.71 or later working on FreeBSD 4.x? What did you do to get it working? - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't install gaim on FreeBSD 4.x
On 11/25/03 22:06, David Gerard wrote: We're trying to install gaim on a 4.8-RELEASE box, and it's acting like the package is broken. lilith# pkg_add -v gaim-0.72.tar Requested space: 42147840 bytes, free space: 46554032128 bytes in /var/tmp/instmp.ko8CO8 pkg_add: read_plist: bad command '@conflicts ja-gaim-*' lilith# Er, huh? I got the same on a 4.6.2 box. Compiling from source gives a failure, which appears to be from Linuxisms in the source. Has anyone got gaim 0.71 or later working on FreeBSD 4.x? What did you do to get it working? Further on this: when I tried compiling from source, ./configure seemed to work but this showed up in the middle: checking for ao... no *** Could not run ao test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means ao was incorrectly installed *** or that you have moved ao since it was installed. - and then 'make' went like this: -bash-2.05b$ make make all-recursive Making all in sounds Making all in plugins Making all in docklet Making all in gaim-remote Making all in gestures Making all in perl source='perl.c' object='perl.lo' libtool=yes depfile='.deps/perl.Plo' tmpdepfile='.deps/perl.TPlo' depmode=gcc /usr/local/bin/bash ../../depcomp /usr/local/bin/bash ../../libtool --silent --mode=compile gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DVERSION=\0.72\ -I../.. -I../../src-I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/X11R6/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/CORE -g -O2 -Wall -g3 -c -o perl.lo `test -f 'perl.c' || echo './'`perl.c In file included from perl.c:87: perl-common.h:28: syntax error before `CV' perl.c:208: syntax error before `CV' perl.c: In function `gaim_perl_callXS': perl.c:213: `aTHX_' undeclared (first use in this function) perl.c:213: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once perl.c:213: for each function it appears in.) perl.c:213: syntax error before `cv' perl.c: In function `destroy_package': perl.c:397: warning: passing arg 1 of `Perl_newSVpv' discards qualifiers from pointer target type *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/lilith/gaim-0.72/plugins/perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/lilith/gaim-0.72/plugins. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/lilith/gaim-0.72. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/lilith/gaim-0.72. Any ideas? - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't install gaim on FreeBSD 4.x
On 11/25/03 22:20, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 17:06, David Gerard wrote: Has anyone got gaim 0.71 or later working on FreeBSD 4.x? What did you do to get it working? You need to install the sysutils/pkg_install port, I can't find such a port ... either on the system or on ftp.freebsd.org. then use /usr/local/bin/pkg_add to add the package. Note, gaim is currently supported on 4.8, 4.9, -STABLE, 5.1, and -CURRENT only. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ok, i give up; how acroread in mozilla???
On 11/08/03 22:45, Gary Kline wrote: Setting up netscape to use realplayer and acroread took awhile but I finally got it. I've been using mozilla more and more, but still haven't figured out howto get it to successfully spawn acroread. Heh. I gave up and just set Firebird to spawn xpdf as needed :-) - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
weird KDE alt-tab problem
Every now and then, I press alt-tab to go between applications in KDE 3, and it goes into a strange mode: I press alt, hold and press tab, and the window menu comes up ... I press alt again and it actually goes to the next window. 1. What is happening? 2. How did it get there? 3. What can I do to get out of it without just restarting KDE? - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla weirdness
anyone know why my Mozilla 1.4 has no spell check in mail? am i missing something here? Yep - 1.4 doesn't come with the spell checker! It is included with 1.4.1 or 1.5, though. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Editing* PDFs?
We have just seen the many tools for generating PDFs all you want. Is there anything usable on FreeBSD for *editing* existing PDFs, though? Any form of replacement whatsoever for the full version of Acrobat? - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *Editing* PDFs?
On 10/13/03 19:03, James Leone wrote: The only way I have been able to edit existing PDF's is by installing Adobe Acrobat 5.0 in Linux by using Codeweaver's Cross Over Office, which is available at www.codeweavers.com. Which is the original problem :-) I've used Acrobat on Windows. It works wonderfully. I suppose if anyone ever does a good open-source DTP program for Unix, it won't be that hard ... I have been able to combine PDF's and create PDF's out of anything printable just by using some basic Unix utilities. I can go into detail if someone likes. Definitely! - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: StarOffice 7
On 10/13/03 15:11, Ray Seals wrote: Has anyone tried to run Star Office 7 on FreeBSD 5.1 yet? I have 6 and I use it daily on my 4.8 machine. Just wanted to know what type of battle I would have on my hands trying to get the new one working on 5.1. OpenOffice 1.1 for Linux runs *very* well on FreeBSD 4.8 with linux_base-7, though it wouldn't work for me on 4.6.2 ... Install linux_base-7 and see how it goes. OOo 1.1 works, so there's no reason SO 7 shouldn't. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opera 7.20b7 for FreeBSD problems
On 09/29/03 23:42, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: Why not try the static version? http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=freebsdver=7.20b7 Note the page suggests Download the static version unless you know that your system will be able to use the shared version. Ah, no, I tried both with the same result ... - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Opera 7.20b7 for FreeBSD problems
Yes, they have a FreeBSD native binary :-) Unfortunately, it doesn't work for me. It fails like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/opera $ ./opera /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object libawt.so not found But locate shows: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/opera $ locate libawt.so /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/lib/i386/libawt.so /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/jre/lib/i386/libawt.so Huh?? (I tried the Linux binary as well. It failed the same way.) - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/fstab explain me please.....
On 09/13/03 11:11, Denis wrote: I want to mount automatically my second disk drive which has Fat32 file system. Could you tell me what i must write in FSType section in /etc/fstab?? Maybe msdos or fat32??? msdos is correct. Here's mine: $ cat /etc/fstab # See the fstab(5) manual page for important information on automatic mounts # of network filesystems before modifying this file. # # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad0s1b noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/ad3s1 /mp3msdos rw 1 2 proc/proc procfs rw 0 0 The drive called 'mp3' was mounted in a Windows box. Rather than mess about with 40 gig of ripped CDs, I just put it straight into this box and mounted it as shown. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice 1.1rc3-Linux on FreeBSD 4.6.2 installation problems
Do you have linprocfs mounted? I think it's required for 4.6.2 I just mounted it anyway, to try that: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ls -la /compat/linux/proc total 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Sep 18 2002 . drwxr-xr-x 12 root wheel 512 Sep 18 2002 .. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ sudo mount_linprocfs linprocfs /compat/linux/proc Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 18174862 12051798 466907672%/ /dev/ad3s1 39068576 38828064 24051299%/mp3 procfs 44 0 100%/proc linprocfs 44 0 100%/usr/compat/linux/proc - and OOo installation failed exactly the same way. How annoying ... - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenOffice 1.1rc3-Linux on FreeBSD 4.6.2 installation problems
We just downloaded and installed the Linux binary of OOo 1.1rc3 on my wife's FreeBSD 4.8 box with no problems. My 4.6.2 box, however, doesn't want to play. I untar the install files into a directory in my home directory, run ./setup and it puts up an unpacking window (box opening and progress bar), then a text box saying 'The script file is now being read. Please wait a moment ...' - then an alert box saying 'Important program files were not found. The installation set may be damaged.' The thing is, this is the *exact* same tarball which worked on the 4.8 box. Has anyone else encountered this? Any idea what it means? I do have linux_base-6 and linux_base-7 installed, as does the 4.8 box. (We also tried the FreeBSD native tarball, but it insists on trying to install in /usr/local and doesn't seem to give the option of installing to a home directory.) - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice 1.1rc3-Linux on FreeBSD 4.6.2 installation problems
On 09/07/03 20:50, T Kellers wrote: On Sunday 07 September 2003 03:41 pm, David Gerard wrote: We just downloaded and installed the Linux binary of OOo 1.1rc3 on my wife's FreeBSD 4.8 box with no problems. My 4.6.2 box, however, doesn't want to play. The thing is, this is the *exact* same tarball which worked on the 4.8 box. Do you have linprocfs mounted? I think it's required for 4.6.2 Not on either box (unless you mean something that doesn't show with df). 4.6.2 box: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad0s1a 18174862 12049342 467153272%/ /dev/ad3s1 39068576 38828064 24051299%/mp3 procfs 44 0 100%/proc 4.8 box: -bash-2.05b$ df Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail Capacity Mounted on /dev/ad1s1a 56680620 5191946 4695422610%/ procfs 440 100%/proc /dev/ad0s1 13227720 5020460 820726038%/c BTW, I also looked at the version of linux_base-7 - the 4.8 box has linux_base-7.1-2, whereas the 4.6.2 box has linux_base-7.1-3! As a last note: OpenOffice.orf 1.0.3 for Linux installed and worked perfectly on both systems. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why people are not satisfied with FreeBSD?
Denis Troshin wrote: Looking at the field MAILER of e-mails' headers, I see that there a lot of people here who are using mail programs like Outlook, Eudora, Mozillafor win32. This means that they run windows systems. So I'm asking why still a lot of people here who hadn't move to FreeBSD? I'm now doing mail in Thunderbird for FreeBSD (the unofficial binary from http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=21300 - the 23-Aug-2003 build - it's going very nicely), but until recently did it from a shell on a Debian box. It All Depends. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla Thunderbird under Linux compatibility?
David Gerard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030724 06:05]: I'm trying to run a current Thunderbird build for Linux under compatibility. It's quitting with: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ./thunderbird/thunderbird ./thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ I have installed linux_base-6.1, linux_base-6.1_1 and linux_base-7.1_3. The last of these was enough to make Mozilla Firebird work properly ... Anyone else gotten Thunderbird to work? It turns out that Thunderbird for Linux is compiled against gtk2. My machine has native gtk2, but evidently it wants a Linux gtk2; and there is no linux-gtk port for 2, only for 1.2. How annoying! Looks like I'll have to build it myself. Perhaps someone willl do a port or package for Thunderbird 0.1, which is coming soon ... - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mozilla Thunderbird under Linux compatibility?
I'm trying to run a current Thunderbird build for Linux under compatibility. It's quitting with: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ./thunderbird/thunderbird ./thunderbird/thunderbird-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ I have installed linux_base-6.1, linux_base-6.1_1 and linux_base-7.1_3. The last of these was enough to make Mozilla Firebird work properly ... Anyone else gotten Thunderbird to work? (I'd just use Mozilla 1.4 or 1.5a except that I can't run that and Firebird simultaneously ...) - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Use linux_base-debian instead of linux_base?
Kirk Strauser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030715 02:46]: I have linux_base-debian installed and working well. However, some ports (namely linux-ibm-jdk14 via the USE_LINUX Makefile entry) want to install linux_base alongside it. Can I configure my system to use linux_base-debian for ports that want to install linux_base? In a related question: I have linux_base-6 and linux_base-7 installed - is it possible to also install linux_base-debian? (I use them for Opera, Realplayer, OpenOffice and Mozilla Firebird nightlys.) - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenOffice.org Linux binary works (was OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 andFreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE)
Doug Poland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030601 01:18]: On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 01:00:33AM +1000, David Gerard wrote: So. On the other box (FreeBSD 4.8), we've just installed OOo 1.0.2 from ports. A few days' compilation from source. It, er, sort of works. It starts up, but crashes when you try to save anything (dies with an internal error). The README claims it works with FreeBSD 4.5 and up, but I'll believe that when I see it doing so. What are others' experiences so far? Is there some undocumented hoop one must jump through to get it to behave itself? I had been using linux binaries with success. I've been trying to build native 1.0.3 but the build keeps failing. I've never been able to compile any version of OO.org from source. We just installed the Linux binary (as downloaded from openoffice.org) for 1.0.3, and it's working very nicely so far. Ran 'install' (which gave a lot of errors) then 'setup', and it works fine. Ticked 'KDE integration' and it even put itself into the KDE menus properly. I'm about to try it on the 4.6.2 box as well. I'll let you all know if that works too. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux compat: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.1.3' not found
David Gerard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030606 06:53]: We just installed the Linux binary (as downloaded from openoffice.org) for 1.0.3, and it's working very nicely so far. Ran 'install' (which gave a lot of errors) then 'setup', and it works fine. Ticked 'KDE integration' and it even put itself into the KDE menus properly. I'm about to try it on the 4.6.2 box as well. I'll let you all know if that works too. I just tried it on the 4.6.2 box and got this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/install $ ./install Installation starting, please be patient ... ./setup: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.1.3' not found (required by ./setup) Installation Completed [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/install $ ./setup ./setup: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.1.3' not found (required by ./setup) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/install $ So. What do I need to install or do to my Linux compat so I don't get this error? Remember that this is FreeBSD 4.6.2, and it works fine on FreeBSD 4.8. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux compat: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.1.3' not found
David Gerard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030606 07:18]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/install $ ./install Installation starting, please be patient ... ./setup: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.1.3' not found (required by ./setup) Installation Completed [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/install $ ./setup ./setup: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.1.3' not found (required by ./setup) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/install $ So. What do I need to install or do to my Linux compat so I don't get this error? Remember that this is FreeBSD 4.6.2, and it works fine on FreeBSD 4.8. Turns out I had linux_base-6 and not linux_base-7. Just downloaded and added linux_base-7.1_3.tgz and all is well :-) - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice
Rob Lahaye ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030606 12:58]: Larry Rosenman wrote: visit: http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice and you can download a pre-built package. Why has this not yet become part of the precompiled package selection of FreeBSD, so that everyone can find it where one expect it to be found? It has. But it doesn't, ah, work. Trying to use it feels like using Mozilla did in 2000 - you can see the hard work that's going into it, but for actual day-to-day use it's not up to beta status. After beating my head against the FreeBSD version (and I wish them only the best in getting it to work properly), I eventually downloaded the Linux binary. Which works very well with linux_base-7 installed. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Selling FreeBSD
Paul Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030606 19:09]: If they aren't enthusiastic, it's because it's not solving any problems for them. The fact it works great as a high-traffic MX or HTTP server isn't something most businesses need. As for desktop use, well, it does suck compared to something like Mandrake for an average run-of-the-mill office worker. Even Mandrake sucks a little bit compared to Windows XP these days. I would question that. I just set my highly non-technical wife up with FreeBSD 4.8, KDE 3.1, Mozilla Firebird 0.6 (Linux binary) and OpenOffice.org 1.0.3 (Linux binary, as mentioned on this list ;-). It does require an administrator to at least run the ports or packages, but any office network will need an administrator. The only thing still missing is a drop-in replacement for Outlook. Other than that, it's probably more usable than Windows, and a Windows user should have no trouble. It works like Windows, but it doesn't crash! - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Selling FreeBSD
Jeff MacDonald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030607 08:35]: I would question that. I just set my highly non-technical wife up with FreeBSD 4.8, KDE 3.1, Mozilla Firebird 0.6 (Linux binary) and OpenOffice.org 1.0.3 (Linux binary, as mentioned on this list ;-). It does require an administrator to at least run the ports or packages, but any office network will need an administrator. The only thing still missing is a drop-in replacement for Outlook. Other than that, it's probably more usable than Windows, and a Windows user should have no trouble. Evolution is a pretty good drop in replacement for outlook. I heard somewhere (don't recall where) that the Ximian proprietary program that interfaces Evolution to an Exchange server is actually a screen scraper for Outlook Web Access. Sounds a little implausible to me (what about all the funky calendar functions?), but could be a start on an open-source tool of that function. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 and FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE
OK. I know that after much fiddling with OOo 1.0.1 and FreeBSD 4.6.2, it came out that OOo basically just, er, didn't work on FreeBSD at that time. So. On the other box (FreeBSD 4.8), we've just installed OOo 1.0.2 from ports. A few days' compilation from source. It, er, sort of works. It starts up, but crashes when you try to save anything (dies with an internal error). The README claims it works with FreeBSD 4.5 and up, but I'll believe that when I see it doing so. What are others' experiences so far? Is there some undocumented hoop one must jump through to get it to behave itself? - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 and FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE
Mark Rowlands ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030601 02:49]: On Saturday 31 May 2003 5:18 pm, Doug Poland wrote: On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 01:00:33AM +1000, David Gerard wrote: OK. I know that after much fiddling with OOo 1.0.1 and FreeBSD 4.6.2, it came out that OOo basically just, er, didn't work on FreeBSD at that time. So. On the other box (FreeBSD 4.8), we've just installed OOo 1.0.2 from ports. A few days' compilation from source. It, er, sort of works. It starts up, but crashes when you try to save anything (dies with an internal error). The README claims it works with FreeBSD 4.5 and up, but I'll believe that when I see it doing so. What are others' experiences so far? Is there some undocumented hoop one must jump through to get it to behave itself? I had been using linux binaries with success. I've been trying to build native 1.0.3 but the build keeps failing. I've never been able to compile any version of OO.org from source. why not use the freebsd package ? :- http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/ Yes, but does it actually work reliably? I would have expected the official port to achieve basic function, but it observably doesn't. Hence asking. - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crucial USB CompactFlash reader and 4.6.2?
Just got a Crucial USB CompactFlash reader. I plugged the CF card into it, plugged the cable into the reader, and tried to mount it: $ sudo mount -t msdos /dev/da0s1 /mnt Password: msdos: /dev/da0s1: Device not configured dmesg gives me this: umass0: USB Mass Storage, rev 1.10/1.13, addr 3 umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB reset failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-in clear stall failed, IOERROR umass0: BBB bulk-out clear stall failed, IOERROR (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): got CAM status 0x4 (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): removing device entry Has anyone gotten one of these to work with FreeBSD? I even emailed Crucial beforehand asking if it was just a plain old umass, and they wrote back saying it was ... - d. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gphoto2, gettext, intl.4
The camera doesn't seem to be a plain old umass. However, it is supported by gphoto, so let's try installing that port ... the gphoto2 port pulls in gettext, which seems to require something called intl.4 : # make install clean === Extracting for gphoto2-2.1.0_2 Checksum OK for gphoto2-2.1.0.tar.bz2. === gphoto2-2.1.0_2 depends on executable: pkg-config - found === gphoto2-2.1.0_2 depends on executable: gmake - found === gphoto2-2.1.0_2 depends on shared library: intl.4 - not found ===Verifying install for intl.4 in /usr/ports/devel/gettext === Returning to build of gphoto2-2.1.0_2 Error: shared library intl.4 does not exist *** Error code 1 Er, huh? What can I do now? - d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
attaching a umass device?
This is probably really simple, but I couldn't see it in the handbook ... I've plugged a umass device (a camera) into a USB port. What do I do now to get access to the data? - d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Jenoptik JD2100f camera and FreeBSD?
This camera looks tempting. The software it comes with is for Windows and MacOS 9, of course. It's not listed by name on the gphoto2 list, though other Jenoptik cameras are. And it apparently works with Linux as a USB drive: http://www.steinionline.de/lol/JD2100f_en.htm - which suggests that working with FreeBSD should be at least *feasible*. So. Has anyone used this camera with FreeBSD? Or, at least, related Jenoptik cameras? I have FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE here. The camera itself is here: http://www.tesco.com/electrical/product.asp?7285715 99 pounds for a 2.1 megapixel camera with CompactFlash. Not too bad at all. - d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
KDE does funny things to audio
I normally don't use KDE, just Sawfish and an xterm. But I was setting up an account on this box with KDE for a Windows-using friend. All works well except the sound ... Although starting the KDE session it works okay (system sounds, MP3s, Oggs), after a while something goes funny and all sound comes out as mangled noise. This persists on exiting KDE and returning to the command line (e.g. testing with mpg123). This is KDE 3.0.0 on FreeBSD 4.6.2. Has anyone else had this happen? What's causing it? Is there an easy way to kick the audio driver into behaving, e/g/ unloading and reloading it, in FreeBSD? - d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Adding a FAT32 hard disk
I've got this hard disk, with about 40 gig of stuff on it. It's FAT32. (These things happen.) I've plugged it into the system, and the system boots, and appears to detect a hard disk of the right size on startup. So, er. How do I get FreeBSD to recognise and use it? - d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
How to chmod on FAT32 partition?
OK, got disk up. (Problem was I didn't know its make. ad3s1 eventually worked.) Now it seems I can't make it writable by anyone but root: diva# ls -l viv.html -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1987 Jul 4 05:21 viv.html diva# chmod g+w viv.html diva# ls -l viv.html -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1987 Jul 4 05:21 viv.html diva# chmod a+w viv.html diva# ls -l viv.html -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1987 Jul 4 05:21 viv.html Same for any files. Is this some sort of FAT32 limitation? Is this documented anywhere? - d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Phoenix browser and FreeBSD (Linux binaries) 4.6.2?
I'm trying to get the Linux nightly binaries of Phoenix running. It's after some libraries that it claims aren't on my system - stuff like GTK+ 1.2, which certainly *should* be. Anyone else having any luck? (I'm specifically after getting the nightly binaries running, rather than bothering to set up things to pull CVS and compile by hand. I've got WINE installed, I guess I could try the Win32 binaries ;-) - d. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
