Re: sendmail problems

2007-10-18 Thread Duane Winner
Derek Ragona wrote:
 At 06:15 PM 10/17/2007, Duane Winner wrote:
 Derek Ragona wrote:
  At 04:07 PM 10/17/2007, Duane Winner wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I need help to resolve a problem with my sendmail server.
 
  In my /var/log/maillog, I've been seeing:
 
  sm-mta[1753]: l9H4EoAn001753: outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com
  [69.89.17.210] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to
  IPv4
 
  I use this server to manage mailman lists, so I knew something was
 wrong
  when I started notice that my own list posts (using a bluehost.com
  account) were not showing up.
  So I looked in the logs and noticed the above.
 
  At first I thought it might be bluehost.com acting up again, but then
  tried to send mail from a gmail.com account. Same thing:
 
  sm-mta[1785]: l9H4OdFq001785: py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]
  did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4
 
 
  It accepts fine from my company's external email server (different
  domain, different network), and also accepts from my att.net email
  account, and many others who post to my lists.
 
  I'm not sure where to even begin looking. Any help appreciated!
 
  -DW
 
  Are you running only IPv4?  or are you running IPv6?  Or both?

 IPv4 only. When I restart sendmail, I get the following output, which if
 I'm interpreting correctly, means that sendmail isn't going to try to
 use IPv6 when it's running:

 Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: starting daemon (8.13.6):
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00
 Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
 opendaemonsocket: daemon IPv6: can't create server SMTP socket: Protocol
 not supported
 Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
 opendaemonsocket: daemon IPv6: optional socket disabled
 Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-msp-queue[33707]: starting daemon
 (8.13.6): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00

 It looks like you are trying to run sendmail on IPv6.  You can turn on
 or off support for IPv6 in the DaemonPortOptions in your *.cf files in
 /etc/mail.  I would check those and also check your IP stack
 configuration doing:
 ifconfig -a

Still broken; I disabled IPv6 in my cf's, and sendmail doesn't even try
to listen on IPv6 now when I restart it.
I don't think it did anyway before, it was just trying to but I don't
have IPv6 in my stack since I disable it in the kernel config, so it
just ignored ipv6 after startup.

I think something else is going on. The weird thing is that it's just
certain mail hosts that it's rejecting.





 -Derek

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Re: sendmail problems

2007-10-18 Thread Duane Winner
Derek Ragona wrote:
 At 01:27 PM 10/18/2007, Duane Winner wrote:
 Derek Ragona wrote:
  At 06:15 PM 10/17/2007, Duane Winner wrote:
  Derek Ragona wrote:
   At 04:07 PM 10/17/2007, Duane Winner wrote:
   Hello,
  
   I need help to resolve a problem with my sendmail server.
  
   In my /var/log/maillog, I've been seeing:
  
   sm-mta[1753]: l9H4EoAn001753: outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com
   [69.89.17.210] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during
 connection to
   IPv4
  
   I use this server to manage mailman lists, so I knew something was
  wrong
   when I started notice that my own list posts (using a bluehost.com
   account) were not showing up.
   So I looked in the logs and noticed the above.
  
   At first I thought it might be bluehost.com acting up again,
 but then
   tried to send mail from a gmail.com account. Same thing:
  
   sm-mta[1785]: l9H4OdFq001785: py-out-1112.google.com
 [64.233.166.176]
   did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4
  
  
   It accepts fine from my company's external email server (different
   domain, different network), and also accepts from my att.net email
   account, and many others who post to my lists.
  
   I'm not sure where to even begin looking. Any help appreciated!
  
   -DW
  
   Are you running only IPv4?  or are you running IPv6?  Or both?
 
  IPv4 only. When I restart sendmail, I get the following output,
 which if
  I'm interpreting correctly, means that sendmail isn't going to try to
  use IPv6 when it's running:
 
  Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: starting daemon (8.13.6):
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00
  Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
  opendaemonsocket: daemon IPv6: can't create server SMTP socket:
 Protocol
  not supported
  Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
  opendaemonsocket: daemon IPv6: optional socket disabled
  Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-msp-queue[33707]: starting daemon
  (8.13.6): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00
 
  It looks like you are trying to run sendmail on IPv6.  You can turn on
  or off support for IPv6 in the DaemonPortOptions in your *.cf files in
  /etc/mail.  I would check those and also check your IP stack
  configuration doing:
  ifconfig -a

 Still broken; I disabled IPv6 in my cf's, and sendmail doesn't even try
 to listen on IPv6 now when I restart it.
 I don't think it did anyway before, it was just trying to but I don't
 have IPv6 in my stack since I disable it in the kernel config, so it
 just ignored ipv6 after startup.

 I think something else is going on. The weird thing is that it's just
 certain mail hosts that it's rejecting.

 Check the DNS forward and reverse of the rejected hosts.  It may be a
 DNS issue.

 -Derek

Can't find much wrong with DNS:

FYI: I had dnsbl enabled (which worked fine for the past couple years on
this server), but disabled that too, and still no luck.

dig -x 69.89.18.10

;  DiG 9.3.2  -x 69.89.18.10
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 48077
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;10.18.89.69.in-addr.arpa.  IN  PTR

;; ANSWER SECTION:
10.18.89.69.in-addr.arpa. 86279 IN  PTR
outbound-mail-41.bluehost.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
18.89.69.in-addr.arpa.  86279   IN  NS  ns3.bluehost.com.
18.89.69.in-addr.arpa.  86279   IN  NS  ns1.bluehost.com.
18.89.69.in-addr.arpa.  86279   IN  NS  ns2.bluehost.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.bluehost.com.   171739  IN  A   74.220.195.31
ns2.bluehost.com.   171739  IN  A   69.89.16.4

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 10.20.237.8#53(10.20.237.8)
;; WHEN: Thu Oct 18 15:05:42 2007
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 171



dig -x 64.233.166.177

;  DiG 9.3.2  -x 64.233.166.177
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 30043
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;177.166.233.64.in-addr.arpa.   IN  PTR

;; ANSWER SECTION:
177.166.233.64.in-addr.arpa. 85685 IN   PTR py-out-1112.google.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
166.233.64.in-addr.arpa. 85304  IN  NS  ns1.google.com.
166.233.64.in-addr.arpa. 85304  IN  NS  ns2.google.com.
166.233.64.in-addr.arpa. 85304  IN  NS  ns3.google.com.
166.233.64.in-addr.arpa. 85304  IN  NS  ns4.google.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.google.com. 171704  IN  A   216.239.32.10
ns2.google.com. 171704  IN  A   216.239.34.10
ns3.google.com. 171704  IN  A   216.239.36.10
ns4.google.com. 171704  IN  A   216.239.38.10

;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 10.20.237.8#53(10.20.237.8)
;; WHEN: Thu Oct 18 15:07:09 2007
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 217


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sendmail problems

2007-10-17 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

I need help to resolve a problem with my sendmail server.

In my /var/log/maillog, I've been seeing:

sm-mta[1753]: l9H4EoAn001753: outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com
[69.89.17.210] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4

I use this server to manage mailman lists, so I knew something was wrong
when I started notice that my own list posts (using a bluehost.com
account) were not showing up.
So I looked in the logs and noticed the above.

At first I thought it might be bluehost.com acting up again, but then
tried to send mail from a gmail.com account. Same thing:

sm-mta[1785]: l9H4OdFq001785: py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]
did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4


It accepts fine from my company's external email server (different
domain, different network), and also accepts from my att.net email
account, and many others who post to my lists.

I'm not sure where to even begin looking. Any help appreciated!

-DW

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Re: sendmail problems

2007-10-17 Thread Duane Winner
Derek Ragona wrote:
 At 04:07 PM 10/17/2007, Duane Winner wrote:
 Hello,

 I need help to resolve a problem with my sendmail server.

 In my /var/log/maillog, I've been seeing:

 sm-mta[1753]: l9H4EoAn001753: outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com
 [69.89.17.210] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to
 IPv4

 I use this server to manage mailman lists, so I knew something was wrong
 when I started notice that my own list posts (using a bluehost.com
 account) were not showing up.
 So I looked in the logs and noticed the above.

 At first I thought it might be bluehost.com acting up again, but then
 tried to send mail from a gmail.com account. Same thing:

 sm-mta[1785]: l9H4OdFq001785: py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]
 did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4


 It accepts fine from my company's external email server (different
 domain, different network), and also accepts from my att.net email
 account, and many others who post to my lists.

 I'm not sure where to even begin looking. Any help appreciated!

 -DW

 Are you running only IPv4?  or are you running IPv6?  Or both?

IPv4 only. When I restart sendmail, I get the following output, which if
I'm interpreting correctly, means that sendmail isn't going to try to
use IPv6 when it's running:

Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: starting daemon (8.13.6):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00
Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
opendaemonsocket: daemon IPv6: can't create server SMTP socket: Protocol
not supported
Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
opendaemonsocket: daemon IPv6: optional socket disabled
Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-msp-queue[33707]: starting daemon
(8.13.6): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00





 -Derek


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security patches and release number question

2007-10-04 Thread Duane Winner

Hi,

Question about patch numbers and applying patches:

Last night, I got the openssl security advisory, and this morning am 
starting to patch my servers.


I've always just done a make build world; make build kernel; make 
install kernel; make install world when I've need to patch.


Today, however, I thought I would just try to do the patch on the 
openssl libs as described in the advisory. I think it worked just fine, 
but my question is this:


How do I keep track of which systems I've patched if I just do a patch 
 patchfile instead of the whole world/kernel thing?


uname -an still shows 6.2-RELEASE-p7 instead of p8; I use this to keep 
track of which servers I've patched and which I haven't.


Is there a way to handle this?

Thanks,
DW

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Re: What is affected by FreeBSD-SA-07:08.openssl ?

2007-10-04 Thread Duane Winner
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Alexandre Biancalana wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 A quick:
 
 $ grep -lr SSL_get_shared_ciphers /usr/src 2 /dev/null
 /usr/src/crypto/openssl/apps/s_client.c
 /usr/src/crypto/openssl/apps/s_server.c
 /usr/src/crypto/openssl/doc/ssleay.txt
 /usr/src/crypto/openssl/doc/ssl/ssl.pod
 /usr/src/crypto/openssl/ssl/ssl.h
 /usr/src/crypto/openssl/ssl/ssl_lib.c
 /usr/src/crypto/openssl/util/ssleay.num
 /usr/src/secure/lib/libssl/man/ssl.3
 
 Doesn't revel much about what is affected by this bug Have someone made
 some deeper analysis about what is affected ?

Related question:

Would any ports which may have been built based on openssl libraries
(apache, stunnel, etc.) need to be rebuilt after this openssl patch?

- -DW


 
 Best Regards,
 
 Alexandre Biancalana
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urgent sendmail question

2007-09-24 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

I know if I poked around enough, I could find the answer, but am up
against the wall here and need a quick solution. I just discovered a
major problem with my sendmail configurations.

Just recently started consolidating servers by virtual hosting apache,
several servers on one box. Problem is that the web app sometimes send
automated emails to users, and now they're getting bounced back because
the emails are going out with @fakename.mydomain.org instead of
@mydomain.org.

Since there is no DNS entry for fakename.mydomain.org, recipient's
mail servers are rejecting these emails from my servers.

So I have an apache box, fakename.mydomain.org, hosting 5 virtual
hosts with unique domain names that do have public dns records.

I need to all outbound mail appear to be coming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
or [EMAIL PROTECTED], as long as it can be resolved by
the remote mail server.

My sendmails are configured to listen on 127.0.0.1 only, since I'm using
to send, not receive.

Please help!

Thanks,
DW

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emacs22 and portsdb

2007-07-27 Thread Duane Winner

Hello,

We've been having a problem with generating the ports Index ever since 
upgrading to emacs22.


As per /usr/ports/UPDATING, we added EMACS_PORT_NAME=*emacs22* to 
/etc/make.conf


Everything went fine. Now running emacs22.

But ever since, our daily routine of cvsup'ing and portsdb -Uu has gone 
south, first with this error:


   lsdb-*emacs22*-0.10_1: /usr/ports/editors/flim-*emacs22* 
non-existent -- dependency list incomplete
   === devel/lsdb failed

   *** Error code 1
   1 error

and now today this:

   Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please 
wait..eieio-emacs22-0.17_2: /usr/ports/editors/speedbar-emacs22 
non-existent -- dependency list incomplete

   === devel/eieio failed
   *** Error code 1
   1 error

   ...

   *** Error code 1

   Stop in /usr/ports.
   *** Error code 1

   Stop in /usr/ports.
   failed to generate INDEX!


Perhaps we should be doing a portsdb -Fu instead of -Uu? (that works 
when I tried it)


I'm not sure, because according to the portsdb manpage,

   If you define special macros in /etc/make.conf and the
   dependency of some ports are changed, you should create
   INDEX by yourself by using this option. Otherwise, using
   -F option is recommended since it is much faster.

but we do have that EMACS_PORT_NAME=emacs22 in /etc/make.conf, so I'm 
not sure.


We are also not sure what the implications are of doing a portupgrade 
-a or portinstall after after a failed portsdb. Some of our ports are 
getting out of date, and we're not sure what to do.


Also, I'm not sure if EMACS_PORT_NAME=emacs22 even needs to stay in 
/etc/make.conf after upgrading. I just did a fresh install of FreeBSD a 
new server yesterday, and emacs22 was installed by default when I did my 
portinstall emacs anyway, so is there any sense in keeping it in 
make.conf on boxes where I've upgraded?


On one test machine, I took that line out /etc/make.conf, and portsdb 
-Uu works again, so any guidance on this topic would also be appreciated.


Thank you,
DW




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Scanner w/ feeder

2007-07-09 Thread Duane Winner

Hello,

Is there anybody out there who is using a scanner w/ a document feeder 
on FreeBSD?


Preferably a new model that we can buy w/ our existing budget (as 
opposed to an older used model).


Mac OS X support in addition to FreeBSD would be nice too.

Thanks for any feedback,
DW

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VPS, Colocation, Dedicated

2007-04-26 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
 
 I am looking for any sort of insight, experience from anybody who uses VPS 
technology to substitute for managing their own infrastructure and servers for 
business apps.
 
 We are looking at different options to unload some of the burden of supporting 
a network and server infrastructure that is composed of 50+ FreeBSD servers.
 
 The concept of VPS technology has been put on the table, along with co-lo and 
dedicated server options. Web hosting is right out of the question.
 
 Requirements: 
 
 1. We need to have servers take over the role of the 30+ web servers, which 
run apache and mzscheme webapps. These web servers to talk to 2+ postgresql 
databases on seperate servers.
 
 2. The data on the pgsql databases is of a sensitive nature, so it needs to be 
secured in part by keeping these servers on a separate network segment, 
accessible only by the web servers, using stunnel encryption.
 
 3.  All servers should have some form of firewall protection, either locally 
(software) or on the network. Preferably network.
 
 4. If using VPS, the FreeBSD image should look and feel just as if we 
installed it ourselves from scratch, starting off barebones and installing only 
the apps and services we need.
 
 5. Web server disk space needs to be 10GB. Can scale back to 5GB if ports are 
kept off the server and compiled offline then synced up.
 
 6. One of our database servers is utilizing 33GB of disk space at the moment, 
so we would need at least 50GB per server.
 
 
 
 Findings:
 
 I have found about 4-5 providers who offer FreeBSD VSP's. I've evaluated 2: 
JohnCompanies and Verio.
 
 1. JohnCompanies' VPS image was nearly exactly what I'm looking for -- started 
off barebones, and I had to do the rest. Just like in my server room. But disk 
space was abysmal $29/month for 2GB or $69/month for 8GB. 
 
 2. Verios turned me off right away between high-pressure sales tactics and an 
evaluation that saw a base image loaded with crap like it was a Linux or worse, 
a Windows box: NAS audio server, mp3 player, a default Apache 2.2 install (who 
said I want 2.2?), that wasn't a port, but built-in shared app! PHP, 
Xridiculous. 
 
 3. Nobody seems to include any sort of firewall protection -- just throw the 
server out in the public DMZ, and then there is no option to protect database 
servers on a private subnet. Not even ipfw is included. Verios told me that 
their FreeBSD images cannot firewall, but their Linux images can, and then 
tried to pressure me into just converting to Linux. Sorry, they're off the list 
now.
 
 
 Summary:
 
 I really don't think VPS technology can scale to our requirements or meet the 
specs we need, in resources or security. Their are other in my group who wanted 
to investigate VPS technology because of the notion that it is more secure. For 
instance, there is the concept that because it is virtual, and more hidden, 
it would be more difficult for an employee at our provider to get at the data, 
whereas if we colocated, they could just pull a hard drive and get at the data. 
Personally, I think it would be easier to hi-jack a VMware session or image 
that it would be to get through security, and into a locked cabinet at a colo 
facility and reboot into single user mode or yank out a disk in a RAID array to 
get to the data.
 
 But I'm still willing to be proven wrong, and if anybody can tell me that 
there is a good VPS provider who can meet these needs, I'm all ears, but 
otherwise, I'm leaning towards colocation as the best solution.
 
 (Also, I should mention we already own the hardware -- servers for all -- why 
not leverage that investment?)

Thanks for any feedback!
 
   
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flash player for mozilla or firefox on 5.4?

2005-06-10 Thread Duane Winner

Hello,

Has anybody had any success with Flash on Mozilla or Firefox on FreeBSD 5.4?

I used to have some nominal success with Flash before (but slow and 
cranky) using linuxpluginwrapper.


But now that port fails to install at all.

I see in the FreeBSD ports, there are a handful of other flash ports, 
but don't know if any of them work, or why there are so many variants. 
Will any of them work with the latest Mozilla or Firefox ports?


Thanks,
DW

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Re: SSH, SSL and DNS headaches

2005-06-06 Thread Duane Winner
Well, it's a little comforting to know that it's not just me...and yup, 
that's about when it started for me: around noon (EST) on Friday 5/3.


Please post if you come up with anything.
I'm also trying to cross-post to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cheers,
DW

John Brooks wrote:


I am having a similar problem which started on friday at about
noon. This is on four freebsd boxes (4.11) that were updated via 
cvsup on May 3 from cvsup10, 11, and 12. These four boxes have

been in use for 18 months without issue. I make connections
to ip addresses and not resolvable names, so dns should not be
the show stopper in my case. I have already encountered two
other people experiencing the same type problem, one of which
had updated using cvsup10 in the same time frame as me. The
second has yet to respond.

I am heading over to the clients network now to run checksums
on the source code files. (I have other networks that are not
affected).

--
John Brooks
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Subject: SSH, SSL and DNS headaches


Can anybody provide me with some insight into this before I rip 
all of my hair out:


Starting 3 days ago, suddenly it seemed to take a very, very, 
verly long time for ssh and ssl communications to negotiate 
between nodes on my network.


I have 3 subnets:

a LAN (10.10.0.0/16)
a DMZ (10.20.0.0/16)
a secured subnet for databases (10.30.0.0/16)

I have 2 DNS/Bind servers running in the DMZ: 1 for the public 
web servers that get NAT'd, and provide public DNS lookups for 
the outside world. The other DNS server is for internal queries, 
providing the cooresponding private IP addresses to LAN clients 
and servers in the DMZ and secure subnet. Both sDNS servers are 
running FreeBSD (one is 5.2.1, the other is 5.3)


Everything has been working great for months, until, like I said, 
3 days ago. Some SSH negotiations were taking so long that they 
would time out before I would have a chance to enter the password 
for my private key. Apache/SSL communincations are also taking a 
long time. But when I make intial connections over port 80, it is 
very fast. I have also been able to make straight postgresql 
connections from nodes on my LAN to database servers in my secure 
subnet, but if I ssh to and from the same boxesslow timeouts. 
It seems to be that encrypted traffic is having a problem.


The weird thing is that when I tried on a couple of servers to 
change the DNS server in resolv.conf from the internal (private 
IP address) DNS server to the public server, it seemed to speed 
things up. But I don't understand whywhy would it be faster 
if a lookup reply is providing the external PUBLIC ip address 
instead of the internal PRIVATE ip address? And I also don't 
understand why this would have just suddenly started 3 days ago 
after working fine.


All the subnets are seperated by a Cisco PIX 515 firewall, and I 
see no errors on it. I also see no errors on any of my FreeBSD 
boxes in the logs (other than the SSH timeout errors). I've tried 
rebooting the PIX, rebooting my DNS servers, rebooting all the 
equipment on my communication rack (router, firewall, switches, 
etc.). I'm really confused.


One thing that has helped is that on 5.3 boxes, I put UseDNS no 
in sshd_config, and that seemed to help the SSH problem (but no 
Apache/SSL). I can't do this on all the boxes, though...some are 
5.2.1, and when I put the same directive in there, I get an 
invalid config message when I try to restart SSH.


Thanks for any help on this. I am going insane.

-DW
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Re: ssh delays 40 seconds (SOLVED???)

2005-06-06 Thread Duane Winner





I want to thank everyone else for responding also. The consensus was 
that I need DNS/named working on my gateway/firewall so I will be 
reading and studying to have that working in the near future.



This is what I ended up having to do today...I tried to do what you did 
(set 'UseDNS no' in sshd_config), but my problem was that not all of my 
boxes are 5.3 or 5.4on my 5.2.1 boxes, using the 'UseDNS no' caused 
sshd not to restart. Same problem on some of my older Linux boxes still 
running.


So I set up some in-addr.arpa records for my internal subnets (which I 
never bothered to do or needed to do before) , and that seemed to take 
care of things.





Robert
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Re: strange network behaviour

2005-06-06 Thread Duane Winner

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


on Friday i set up 4 old celeron boxes as DNS servers for a client.  after
about 5 minutes, their ability to reach the network vanishes... they can't
ping their router, and inbound network traffic vanishes.  rebooting fixes
the problem... for another ~ 5 min.

the only things running are chrooted bind, postfix, and webmin.  ipfw is
on, with firewall_type=open.  i've also tried it with ipfw disabled.

The same thing happens with my laptop, which is also running 5-STABLE as
of about noon on friday.

I know this sounds like a network issue, but is there anything in the
system that might cause thist type of behavior?  it doesn't seem to be the
hardware - my laptop is a pentium M centrino system with a bg nic, and
they're old Celeron 500 machines with fxp nics.

 

I believe something happenend out there in DNS land around noon on 
Friday...on the root servers possibly? I've been struggling with slow 
SSH and SSL connections that started around that time, and when I've 
posted, others have reported similar things...all starting around noon 
on Friday. AFAIK, something happened that affected reverse DNS 
lookups...on the machines on which I was able, I could fix SSH by 
setting UseDNS no in sshd_config. Today, I cured all the slowness (I 
think so far) by adding in-addr.arpa zones for my internal 10.x.x.x 
subnets.


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upgrading from 5.3 to 5.4

2005-05-23 Thread Duane Winner

Hi all,

I just noticed that 5.4 is now the production release.

I'm downloading the ISO image now, but I was wondering if anybody has 
done a source upgrade from 5.3 to 5.4 yet.


I was going to try to just change my tag from RELENG_5_3 to RELENG_5_4 
on one of my boxes, upgrade from source and see what happens.


Has anybody done this yet? Any gotcha's, or is it a fairly smooth upgrade?

Thanks
DW
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monitoring and alerting software ????

2005-05-12 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
This may not be FreeBSD specific, but since I'm running nearly a 100% 
FreeBSD shop, I figured this would be as good as place as any to ask a 
question. Also, it might just turn out that the solution for me might be 
software that runs on FreeBSD.

Does anybody have recommendations for a good solution to alert me while 
I am not at work if something goes wrong with my 
infrastucture/network/servers?
In other words, if I am at home, I need to be alerted if one of my 
FreeBSD servers go down, but also if the router, firewall or switches go 
haywire.

I'm thinking along the lines of getting a cell phone, and have a central 
server with a modem dial my cell and send a text message, either 
directly or via a 3rd party service, if anything goes wrong. I am the 
sole responsible admin for babysitting my network and server farm, and 
we're setting up critical systems that must be 24x7, so now I must be 
'on call' 24x7.

Is there anything out there that will assist me with this?
Thanks,
DW
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devfs.conf, permissions and dynamic devices

2005-04-21 Thread Duane Winner
Hello all,
Does anybody know of a solution for this problem:
I have just acquired a new Zire 31 Palm Pilot to replace my old Palm 
VII, which was a serial interface.

I figured out how to sync the Zire to jpilot over USB after compiling 
the kernel (5.3 p9) with 'device ucom' and 'device uvisor'.

The problem is that because /dev/ucom0 is created and only exists when I 
hit the HotSync button on the Palm, putting the following lines into 
/etc/devfs.conf doesn't help at all:

perm ucom0 0666
link ucom0 pilot
link ucom0 jpilot
Before I hit the Sync button in the Jpilot application, I first have to 
type at the console:

# sudo /etc/rc.d/devfs restart
It's not the end of  the world, but it would be nice to simplify things 
a little if possible. Does anybody know of an alternate solution?

Thanks,
DW
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ssh - restricted shell

2005-03-30 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Does anybody know the best technique to accomplish this:
We have a server that we use for mostly internal development, and run an 
SSH server.

We have an outsider who we want to allow to ssh into this server and do 
some work.

However, because he is an outsider, we don't want him roaming around our 
server, moving, looking, doing, or anything outside of his own home 
directory.

How can I restrict him to his own home directory?
I thought I ran into instructions once for doing this, but I can't find 
anything right now.

Or was I thinking of scponly ?
That might do it, except we do need to set him up to to run some scripts 
within his home directory after he uploads stuff via scp.

Thanks,
DW
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auto mount external hard drive but only when present?

2005-03-09 Thread Duane Winner
Hi all,
Hoping someone might have a good technique for this situation:
I have a laptop with a docking station and in the expansion bay of the 
dock, I have a second hard drive, which I have configured as /dev/ad4s1d 
and mount it to /hd2

Normally on workstations with a 2nd drive, I'll just put another line in 
fstab and it will mount at each boot.

But because this is a laptop, and will be pulled off the dock when I'm 
on the road, I can't have that, because FreeBSD will scream into single 
user mode if that partition isn't there. I could put a 'noauto' switch 
into fstab, but that still leaves me with the problem:

The reason for the second drive is for backups: I want to run rsnapshot 
to take regular snapshots of my primary drive filesystems to the 2nd 
drive, and rsnapshot runs as a cron job. Now rnsnapshot is smart enough 
to know not to create the snapshot root if the mount isn't there, but 
while I am docked, I'll have to remember to manually mount the second 
drive. If I forget (which I'm apt to do), then no backups :(

What I'm looking for is a script or something that will mount 
/dev/ad4s1d to /hd2 automatically when it's present, but ignore it when 
it's not, and if possible to unmount it gracefully on shutdown.

I looked at amd automounting, but that seems to be a bit overkill (I 
really don't like the idea of adding NFS et.al. if I can avoid it).

Any ideas?
Cheers,
DW
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Re: set_rcvar load_rc_config run_rc_command: all not found

2005-01-26 Thread Duane Winner
Yup!:
Karol Kwiatkowski wrote:
Christian Hiris wrote:
 

On Wednesday 26 January 2005 05:45:05, Duane Winner wrote:
   

Hello,
I've just noticed (after spending the past two weeks testing
5.3-release), that I'm getting this on every boot and shutdown:
  Local package initialization:set_rcvar: not found
  load_rc_config: not found
  run_rc_command: not found
Everything seems to be working fine, but I sure would like to know where
those set_rcvar, load_rc_config and run_rc_command not found
messages are coming from and why.
 

This messages were sent by a script, which resides in one of your local 
startup directories. If you use the default local startup directories, then 
search the scripts under /usr/local/etc/rc.d and /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d for the 
variables that couldn't be found. The script that wants to run the functions 
set_rcvar, load_rc_config and run_rc_command requires the line 
. /etc/rc.subr. This line sucks in the file /etc/rc.subr and makes the 
missing functions available to your script. 
   

Noticed this today. In my case /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d/xfs.sh was found
guilty (xorg-fontserver).
There's only . instead of . /etc/rc.subr
If I'm reading changes[1] right it has been fixed about 3 hours ago.
 

That was it...I just cvsup'ed my ports a few minutes ago and 
portupgraded xorg-fontserver, and the errors went away.

Thanks,
Duane
Regards,
Karol
[1]http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/x11-servers/xorg-fontserver/Makefile
 

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set_rcvar load_rc_config run_rc_command: all not found

2005-01-25 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
I've just noticed (after spending the past two weeks testing 
5.3-release), that I'm getting this on every boot and shutdown:

   Local package initialization:set_rcvar: not found
   load_rc_config: not found
   run_rc_command: not found

Everything seems to be working fine, but I sure would like to know where 
those set_rcvar, load_rc_config and run_rc_command not found 
messages are coming from and why.

Can someone enlighten me?
Thanks,
Duane
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bash version?

2005-01-11 Thread Duane Winner
Hi all,
I use bash instead of the default csh shell that is part of FreeBSD world.
I am revising my in-house installation manual for FreeBSD 5.3, and it 
just came my attention that there is (actually has been I guess) bash 
version 3 available as a port.

But FreeBSD appears to want to use 2.05b as the default.
Does anybody know of any good reason why I should stick to 2.05b? I 
would like to use the latest stable version, but I don't want to go to 
version 3 if there are any issues that might bite me in the butt or if 
it will disrupt any other FreeBSD convention/issue that I don't know about.

Looking at the the gnu bash site, I don't see any reason *not* to go to 
version 3, but I tend to let any FreeBSD considerations trump others 
when coming up with installation standards.

Thanks for any info,
cheers,
DW
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Re: bash version?

2005-01-11 Thread Duane Winner
Kris Kennaway wrote:
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 11:00:52AM -0500, Duane Winner wrote:
 

Hi all,
I use bash instead of the default csh shell that is part of FreeBSD world.
I am revising my in-house installation manual for FreeBSD 5.3, and it 
just came my attention that there is (actually has been I guess) bash 
version 3 available as a port.

But FreeBSD appears to want to use 2.05b as the default.
   

FreeBSD uses whatever version of bash you tell it to (none are used
by default).  bash 1.x, 2.x and 3.x are available in the ports tree.
 

If you install from port, then yes, all three are available and you have 
to choose. But up until now, we have always installed bash (and emacs) 
as additional packages during the initial CD installation, and it was 
always version 2.05 that ended up being installed.

I'm changing our procedures so that we have cleaner installations, and 
not installing bash or emacs during the install anymore, but rather as 
the first ports we install after a our intial cvsup, in an effort to get 
rid of dependency conflicts (primarly expat) that need special 
instructions. That's when I discovered that there was a version 3 of 
bash available.



Kris
 

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openoffice on 5.3-RELEASE

2005-01-07 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Has anybody been able to get OpenOffice installed from port on 5.3-RELEASE ?
I am running 5.3-RELEASE-p2 (Xorg and JDK1.4.2p7 also installed)
Yesterday, I attempted:
# portinstall openoffice
and chose editors/openoffice-1.1
14 hours later...
the output looked like it built cleanly, but during the install phase it 
bombed with:

./install.sh not found
error code 127
Sigh..it's always OpenOffice that gives me headaches.
I tried to just do a pkg_add -rv openoffice and that got me 
openoffice-1.1.2, which I guess I could live with until it gets fixed, 
but then I discovered during 'openoffice-1.1.2-setup' that characters 
were overlapping in all of the dialogs and menus. I don't know if that 
was a problem with my display or the character set/language, but I just 
ripped out the package in frustration.

So discouraging.
Cheers,
DW
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Re: openoffice on 5.3-RELEASE

2005-01-07 Thread Duane Winner
Thanks! I was able to find OOo_1.1.3_FreeBSD53Intel_install.tbz and get 
that installed and working.
I still had the bad user interface fonts, but I found that to be a 
problem with my xorg config, and I (mostly) fixed it. I sitll have some 
minor 'ticks' snuggled inside my r's, n's, e's and g characters, but not 
nearly as bad as before. I just started using Xorg over Xfree86 this 
week, and apparantly, font handling, or at least the ports are a little 
different.

Just a couple more questions:
If I keep my ports tree cvsup'd every day, I'm going to have:
openoffice-1.1.3  needs updating (port has 1.1.3_1)
We generally do a portupgrade -a to upgrade ports unless 
/usr/ports/UPDATING affects us. How can I get around the openoffice 
discrepency since a portupgrade -a will always try build it again and 
end up failing?

Also, what are the folks up on ootranslation.services doing to get this 
package built that can't be done with the source for 1.1.3_1 on 5.3, why 
can't this port on 5.3, and if it is failing, shouldn't it be marked as 
'broken' on 5.3?

Thanks for any info.
Cheers,
DW
albi wrote:
albi wrote:
there's more info here : http://porting.openoffice.org/freebsd/
build-instructions, known problems and alternative downloads

on the webpage above mentioned the link that says :
OOo 1.1.3 for 4.10 and 1.1.2 for 5.2.1-RELEASE
actually has OOo 1.1.3 for 5.3 for download
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Re: openoffice on 5.3-RELEASE

2005-01-07 Thread Duane Winner

gustaaf wijnands wrote:
Just a couple more questions:
If I keep my ports tree cvsup'd every day, I'm going to have:
openoffice-1.1.3  needs updating (port has 1.1.3_1)
We generally do a portupgrade -a to upgrade ports unless 
/usr/ports/UPDATING affects us. How can I get around the openoffice 
discrepency since a portupgrade -a will always try build it again and 
end up failing?

portupgrade -a -x openoffice-1.1.3 ??
I must be losing it. I looked at the man page twice and didn't see that 
-x switch. Must be Friday or something.
Thanks -- that does it.

-DW
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Re: openoffice on 5.3-RELEASE

2005-01-07 Thread Duane Winner

nbco wrote:
On Friday 07 January 2005 17:56, albi wrote:
 

Duane Winner wrote:
   

We generally do a portupgrade -a to upgrade ports unless
/usr/ports/UPDATING affects us. How can I get around the openoffice
discrepency since a portupgrade -a will always try build it again
and end up failing?
 

a dirty solution is to press ctrl-c when OOo tries to build, i know
from experience that portupgrade simply continues with the rest
without any complaints :)
   

Alterntively, set openoffice to be held in pkgtools.conf 
in /usr/local/etc.  I have added the following line:  

HOLD_PKGS = ['openoffice-*']
This entry will prevent portupgrade attempting to upgrade the port.  
 

Ooohh...I think I like this better than the '-x' switch. I'll have to 
give it a wirl.
Thanks,
DW

If you are using portmanager see this thread to see how to avoid 
portmanager attempting to upgrade a held port:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-January/070055.html

Hope this helps
.nbco
 

Portupgrade honours this setting.
but i assume in the Makefile (in the OOo-portsdir) one can put an
IGNORE somewhere
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Re: openoffice on 5.3-RELEASE

2005-01-07 Thread Duane Winner

Joshua Lokken wrote:
On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 14:58:22 -0500, Duane Winner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

gustaaf wijnands wrote:
   

Just a couple more questions:
If I keep my ports tree cvsup'd every day, I'm going to have:
openoffice-1.1.3  needs updating (port has 1.1.3_1)
We generally do a portupgrade -a to upgrade ports unless
/usr/ports/UPDATING affects us. How can I get around the openoffice
discrepency since a portupgrade -a will always try build it again and
end up failing?
   

portupgrade -a -x openoffice-1.1.3 ??
 

I must be losing it. I looked at the man page twice and didn't see that
-x switch. Must be Friday or something.
Thanks -- that does it.
-DW
   

However, please note the response that mentions using 
HOLD_PKG in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf; that'll save
you from having to use -x at all. 

 

Oh yeah, this *is* definately better. Just tried it.
The first reason being is that it removes the chance of forgetting the 
'-x' and walking away, but I was also delighted with this output:
--- Skipping 'editors/openoffice-1.1' because it is held by user 
(specify -f to force)

Which makes it nice to remember it's still there, and when the port gets 
fixed for 5.3, I'll be reminded to try again at some point.

Cheers,
DW
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xorg and xfree86

2005-01-06 Thread Duane Winner
Hi all,
I was wondering if anybody could provide me with a brief explanation of 
why FreeBSD has made Xorg the default X11 implementation over XFree86.

It doesn't really matter to me, I've tried it, it seems to work fine, 
and almost exactly the same.

The only problem I've run into so far is is that my old XF86Config file 
with the refresh rates for my external monitor connected to my laptop 
didn't quite take (kept going to 800x600). After some minor fiddling, I 
managed to get it working (I still need to do it again a few times so I 
make sure I understand fully what I'm doing).

I've read a bunch of docs, but can't seem to find an answer on why 
FreeBSD has moved to Xorg. Is it just a political/licensing issue? Like 
I said, it's not a big deal, but I manage the internal 'Howto' document 
for our organization, and since we're in the process of moving from 
5.2.1 to 5.3, it would be nice to have a little mention of why we're 
going to Xorg after my entire section for installing X is going to 
change from Xfree86 instructions.

Just curious.
Cheers,
DW
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Re: SSH 5.3 Problems

2005-01-06 Thread Duane Winner
Brian McCann wrote:
Hi all.  On 5.3 and 5.3 RC1 I have this problem where when I ssh in
using either a FreeBSD 4.3 box or an older PuTTY client (0.52 is one I
experienced it with), I cannot connect.  On PuTTY, it asks for a
username, then just exits. On FreeBSD when I put the ssh client into
verbose, it appears it can't agree on an auth method, even though both
are set to accept and attempt keyboard-interactive.  Upgrading to a
newer PuTTY fixed the problem, and it seams to work from FreeBSD 4.10.
I've seen some posts from people that upgrading their PuTTY fixed the
problem, but I'm curious if anyone knows the cause of the problem, and
possibly how to fix it, on the server end.
Thanks,
--Brian McCann
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For what it's worth, we happen to have some licensed copies of the 
commercial SSH client (from SSH Communications Inc.) for our Windows 
boxes. I just tried to reproduce this problem. To ssh into *nix 
workstations, I've always just used password authentication.

On the commercial windows client, after you specify the hostname and 
username, you pick from a drop-down list Authentication Method:
-Password
-Public Key
-SecureID
-PAM
-Keyboard Interactive

I have ALWAYS just used password to get into my Linux and FreeBSD 
workstations running sshd. But password no longer works. I started to 
get nervous, but relaxed when I found out that if I selected Keyboard 
Interactive, I could get in.

I don't understand what exacactly keyboard interactive is and how it 
differs from password, but it seems to work.

I haven't used PuTTY in a few years, and I don't know if this is 
something that can be tweaked or not.

Cheers,
DW
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Re: Free BSD

2005-01-06 Thread Duane Winner

K.T. wrote:
  I think, BSD is one with lot of unusable, needless systems.
  You never get over Windows or Linux.
  FreeBSD is stupid system, which only nobody will use. :-(
 

Hey Butthead, heh,heh, I heard that they, uh, like put plutonium in 
bowling balls.

No way, Beavis, that's golf balls you're thinking of. They put people's 
heads in bowling balls, dumbass.

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permissions question

2004-12-27 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
I don't know if I am having a brainfart, something is different, or if I 
never had it right to begin with:

I need to have a shared directory for apache web content:
/usr/local/htmlstuff
And a group, htmlguys, and several users will be members of that group.
I would like to have the root directory set up like this:
drwxrwxr-x   2 me  htmlguys  512 Dec 27 15:06 htmlstuff
Where htmlguys is the owner.
Any member of htmlguys must be able to read, write and create any file 
or folder in htmlstuff, and the group owner of any file or folder in 
there must still be set to htmlguys, so that one group member can edit 
another group member's file. They should be able to delete files and 
folders that they did not create as well.

When I ran apache on a Redhat box, I thought I just ran:
# chmod 2770 on htmlstuff
and that did the trick for me. Any time a member of htmlguys creates a 
new file in there it will be automatically be owned by the user who 
created it and the group htmlguys.

But that doesn't seem to work on FreeBSD.
I always referred to that '2' before '770' as the 'sticky bit' for the 
group, but I was reading up on setuid, setguid and sticky bits this 
morning, and obviously, I had it all wrong. But I know that it did 
work on Redhat (I still have that server in production, and tested it, 
so I know that works).

So I'm quite confused now, and can't find any documents that describe 
how to do what I need.

Can anybody help me out with this?
Thanks,
DW
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Re: Printer

2004-12-27 Thread Duane Winner

Louis LeBlanc wrote:
If it's a new printer, my best suggestion would be to return it and
get an HP anything.
Some newer Lexmark printers do support standard protocols, but I went
and spent $80 for a Lexmark color printer several years ago that spent
more time working as a doorstop than a printer.  

I'll second that. I don't recall the model (it's still running attached 
to the kid's computer), but it's a Lexmark color inkjet that is totally 
useless for computers running anything but consumer-grade Windows.

They used - and still
do for some printers - proprietary protocols, and release their own
drivers - you guessed it - for Windows only.  And sometimes not even
for all versions of Windows.  My one Windows system was NT, and it
wasn't supported.  At the time, I was a Linux user, and even the
reverse engineered Linux drivers weren't able to get it working.
On top of that, for the short time I did have it working (on Win98 -
blech) I found printing quality and speed to be nothing short of poor.
I'll never buy a Lexmark again, and if given one, I'll immediately put
it on EBay or just give it to my front curb.
Lou
On 12/27/04 02:25 PM, Leon sat at the `puter and typed:
 

Hi,
I have a BSD5.3
I'm trying to set-up a printer.(Dell AIO A960)
I think, that this printer made by Lexmark.
They have one looks like what I have(Lexmark X6170)
I do not know if  BSD support this printer.
So if you know, pleas let me know.
Thanks,
Leon.
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Re: From a mild user of UNIX

2004-12-10 Thread Duane Winner
I remember reading this earlier this year. I think it is very good 
write-up on the differerences and merits.

http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php
Hope it helps.
syed zaidi wrote:
Dear sir/madam,
   my name is  syed zaidi and I am writing to you
concerning FreeBSD UNIX. I am currently using and learning RedHat Linux 9
and  I am trying to have a taste of most types of famous and useful
UNIX/LINUX operating systems. I wanted to know the differences between
FreeBSD UNIX and redhat Linux 9, I know many exist. But I would like to dig
deeper into the heart of UNIX. As you  know most of LINUX is extremely
related to UNIX. Can you please contact me back.
Thank you
Syed zaidi
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GEOM: create disk during runtime? (security run output)

2004-11-19 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
I'm hoping somebody on this list can shed some light on this.
My boss sent me a copy of his daily cron security run output, which 
contained this:

   localhost.local kernel log messages:
 GEOM: create disk ad0 dp=0xc6b77d60
 GEOM: create disk cd0 dp=0xc69a8600
We're all running FreeBSD 5.2.1-p12. I've seen the GEOM: create disk 
messages plenty of times on boot and in my dmesg's, but never really 
paid much attention to them, since I don't really understand how GEOM 
works or how to interpret these kinds of messages.

But I don't recall ever seeing it in a security run cronjob.
My first question is why is this happening during a security run 
cronjob? If this system is already booted and running, why is GEOM 
creating disks?

My second question is is this something bad? Is it a red flag?
The only reasonable (and non-threatening) answer I could come up with is 
maybe it's because the machine went into or came out of suspend mode 
near the time the cronjob ran. (APM)

The bottom line is I don't really know anything about GEOM, and would 
like to know what this means so preventative action can be taken if 
necessary.

Thanks for any info,
Duane
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security run output question (GEOM: create disk)

2004-11-18 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Does anybody know what this means when I see this in a daily security 
run output?:

locahost.local kernel log messages:
GEOM: create disk ad0 dp=0xc6b77d60
GEOM: create disk cd0 dp=0xc69a8600
I don't recall ever seeing this in my daily outputs, but my boss sent me 
an email with this and he wants to know what it means.

If I do a 'dmesg' on my computer, I also get:
GEOM: create disk ad0 dp=0xc6b63160
GEOM: create disk cd0 dp=0xc6983e00
What does this mean, and what does it mean when it shows up in the 
security run output?

Thanks for any info.
-Duane
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Re: Laptops

2004-10-22 Thread Duane Winner
Many people run FreeBSD on laptops.
This is the best link to get started:
http://gerda.univie.ac.at/freebsd-laptops/
I run 5.2.1-RELEASE on an IBM T30. The only outstanding issues for me 
are: acpi (I just use apm) and the integrated Cisco Aironet Wireless (it 
worked with FreeBSD 4.9/10, but broke with 5.2.1 -- I went back to using 
my Orinoco PCMCIA wireless card, which works like a champ.)

Good luck!

Rick Montgomery wrote:
I have a few PIII IBM and Toshiba laptops and was wondering about
putting FreeBSD on them. I have installed several Linux versions on them
(Caldera 2.4/3.1 - RH - SuSe - Mandrake) with minimum re-comps for
functionality on the hardware.
How does FreeBSD act on laptops any known issues? 
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freebsd and MS Active Directory

2004-10-22 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Does anybody out there have experience with FreeBSD in a Microsoft 
Active Directory environment?

I am going to be delivering two servers to a client, both running 
FreeBSD 5.2.1 with Apache as the front-end web server, and postgresql on 
the backend database server.

During a meeting with their IT people a couple of days ago, most issues 
were agreed upon, however, the director of IT informed me that I will 
need to make both of these boxes conform to their Active Directory network.

I think what he was referring to is DNS and IP assignments, and that I 
can't just hard code the hostname and IP address as I normally would and 
expect it to work on their network, since they don't run bind or static 
DNS services.

Has anybody had to deal with this and be able to point me in the right 
direction so that I can test this out before delivery?

I do have an MSDN subscription (which I never use), but could try to set 
 up a basic Active Directory I suppose in my lab. I am a lapsed MCSE, 
but that was during NT 4.0, and stopped really using Microsoft as 
servers around year 2000, so I'm really behind the 8ball.

Thanks for any info.

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Re: freebsd and MS Active Directory

2004-10-22 Thread Duane Winner

Danny MacMillan wrote:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 09:02:46AM -0600, Duane Winner wrote:
...
During a meeting with their IT people a couple of days ago, most issues 
were agreed upon, however, the director of IT informed me that I will  
need to make both of these boxes conform to their Active Directory network.

The phrase conform to their Active Directory network is pretty ambiguous.
I would be asking for more detail if I were you to find out what they
really mean.
Well, you pretty much hit the nail on the head here. It was a brief 
meeting to flesh out an basic specs and an introduction, rather than 
specifics on the implementation. I didn't want to ask too many questions 
 at that point because I didn't want to sound like an idiot.

But one thing that is crystalizing for me is that from what I understand 
so far from talking to others here and doing research is that as far as 
host name resolution and IP address management, not that much has 
changed, and there is no reason that they couldn't create static entries 
for the two BSD hosts.

I am beginning to think that they were under the assumption that the web 
apps we are giving them would participate in their single sign-on, but 
that is not the case, because our web app will be doing it's own user 
management and authentication whether they like it or not. :)

If that is why they brought up AD in the first place, then I think it 
will be a moot point, unless there is something else I don't know yet. 
Is it possible they are using DHCP for all hosts -- even servers, but 
doing static mapping to MAC address? If so, are there instances where AD 
hosts must configured as AD leaf objects? (I'm just scraping the back of 
 my brain memories from my Novell NDS days...cripes -- what's happened 
to me? LOL

At any rate, I have two voice mail messages in to the IT guys I met with 
to get more specifics. I really don't have time to screw around with a 
Windows 2000 lab right now, and rather I wouldn't if I don't have to.




I think what he was referring to is DNS and IP assignments, and that I 
can't just hard code the hostname and IP address as I normally would and 
expect it to work on their network, since they don't run bind or static 
DNS services.

Microsoft DNS is no thoroughbred, but can be configured to do what just
about any other DNS server will do.  Ditto for DHCP.  The only impact
Active Directory has on DNS, that I know of, is that Active Directory
stores SRV records in DNS so that clients can bind to it (I don't
completely understand this, I just see a lot of weird _firstsitename
stuff in a zone dump from our MS DNS server).  As far as I know this
has no impact on the FreeBSD side.  Since they presumably already have
their DNS server running (otherwise Active Directory wouldn't work)
you shouldn't have to do anything special on the FreeBSD side.
It seems unlikely to me that that's what they meant.  I really would
ask for more information.  Maybe they want their FreeBSD administrators
to authenticate against AD accounts?
If you do set up a testbed Active Directory, I would advise you to set
up MS DNS first, as I've had what can most charitably be called
problems when letting Active Directory set up DNS automagically.

...

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updating packages

2004-10-18 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Is there a simple way to upgrade packages on machines with packages 
built on other machines?

Example:
I have eight machines that have jdk-1.4.2p6_4.
On one of the machines I have done a portupgrade jdk, and now have 
jdk-1.4.2p6_5.
I then did a pkg_create -b jdk-1.4.2p6_5 and have a jdk-1.4.2p6_5.tgz.
I copied jdk-1.4.2p6_5.tgz to the other seven machines.

Now how can I upgrade jdk on the others?
I have noticed for at least a few months now that pkg_update is no 
longer with us, and found a message somewhere that it has been removed 
do to problems/non-maintainence, and that most people are using 
portupgrade these days.

Is there a way I can upgrade the packages on other machines without 
having to a pkg_delete first, then a pkg_add?

Thanks for any info,
Duane Winner
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xtset or xtermset tricks?

2004-08-17 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Hey, does anybody know of any useful tricks for automating xtset or 
xtermset?

I use xtset to set the title and icon labels to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:path so I can 
keep track of my xterms littered all over my desktop (pretty frequent! :)

But it sure would be nice to have them updated whenever I 'cd' to 
another directory or 'su' to another user or 'ssh' to another host!

I'm sure there's got to be someway to make this a little more seamless 
then running # xtset [EMAIL PROTECTED]:`pwd` everytime, but I'm just not good enough 
with shell programming to know how to do this.

The closest I came was writing a small bash script that does:
   for filename in /dev/ttyp*; do
  /usr/local/bin/xtset [EMAIL PROTECTED]:`pwd`  $filename
   done
And thought about cron'ing it (every minute), but the problem is that 
when I tested this, all my xterms get the same title/icon based on who 
is running the script and where at the time. No good :(
(And of course this would be useless to update the titles/icons for 
xterms that are remote shells (ssh).

Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Duane
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Re: xtset or xtermset tricks?

2004-08-17 Thread Duane Winner
Found a solution!
In ~/.bashrc, put this:
cd ()
{
   builtin cd $@
   /usr/local/bin/xtset [EMAIL PROTECTED]:`pwd`
}

-Duane
Duane Winner wrote:
Hello,
Hey, does anybody know of any useful tricks for automating xtset or 
xtermset?

I use xtset to set the title and icon labels to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:path so I can 
keep track of my xterms littered all over my desktop (pretty frequent! :)

But it sure would be nice to have them updated whenever I 'cd' to 
another directory or 'su' to another user or 'ssh' to another host!

I'm sure there's got to be someway to make this a little more seamless 
then running # xtset [EMAIL PROTECTED]:`pwd` everytime, but I'm just not good enough 
with shell programming to know how to do this.

The closest I came was writing a small bash script that does:
   for filename in /dev/ttyp*; do
  /usr/local/bin/xtset [EMAIL PROTECTED]:`pwd`  $filename
   done
And thought about cron'ing it (every minute), but the problem is that 
when I tested this, all my xterms get the same title/icon based on who 
is running the script and where at the time. No good :(
(And of course this would be useless to update the titles/icons for 
xterms that are remote shells (ssh).

Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Duane
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Re: xtset or xtermset tricks?

2004-08-17 Thread Duane Winner
This is a little better:
cd ()
{
# do the actual cd
builtin cd $@
# if in homedir, then make path '~', not full path
if [ $PWD == $HOME ]; then
XTDIR=~
else
XTDIR=$PWD
fi
# set xtset title and icon to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:path
/usr/local/bin/xtset [EMAIL PROTECTED]:`echo $XTDIR`
}
# force an xtset title at shell login:
cd
-Duane

Duane Winner wrote:
Found a solution!
In ~/.bashrc, put this:
cd ()
{
   builtin cd $@
   /usr/local/bin/xtset [EMAIL PROTECTED]:`pwd`
}

-Duane
Duane Winner wrote:
Hello,
Hey, does anybody know of any useful tricks for automating xtset or 
xtermset?

I use xtset to set the title and icon labels to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:path so I 
can keep track of my xterms littered all over my desktop (pretty 
frequent! :)

But it sure would be nice to have them updated whenever I 'cd' to 
another directory or 'su' to another user or 'ssh' to another host!

I'm sure there's got to be someway to make this a little more seamless 
then running # xtset [EMAIL PROTECTED]:`pwd` everytime, but I'm just not good 
enough with shell programming to know how to do this.

The closest I came was writing a small bash script that does:
   for filename in /dev/ttyp*; do
  /usr/local/bin/xtset [EMAIL PROTECTED]:`pwd`  $filename
   done
And thought about cron'ing it (every minute), but the problem is that 
when I tested this, all my xterms get the same title/icon based on who 
is running the script and where at the time. No good :(
(And of course this would be useless to update the titles/icons for 
xterms that are remote shells (ssh).

Any thoughts?
Thanks!
Duane
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Re: xtset or xtermset tricks?

2004-08-17 Thread Duane Winner

Gary Kline wrote:
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 12:41:02PM -0400, Duane Winner wrote:
Found a solution!
In ~/.bashrc, put this:
cd ()
{
  builtin cd $@
  /usr/local/bin/xtset [EMAIL PROTECTED]:`pwd`
}

-Duane
Duane Winner wrote:
Hello,
Hey, does anybody know of any useful tricks for automating xtset or 
xtermset?

I use xtset to set the title and icon labels to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:path so I can 
keep track of my xterms littered all over my desktop (pretty frequent! :)

But it sure would be nice to have them updated whenever I 'cd' to 
another directory or 'su' to another user or 'ssh' to another host!


[ ... ]
I've got a slight problem with having the host/directory/etc on the
title bar. It will help clear my zsh right-prompt, of course.
But how do you set the title bar *back* to the name of the xterm?
(My xterms are titled Mail, Net, Hacking, Scratch, and so
forth.)  Is there a way of using xtset/xtermset to retrieve the
-n Name??
Hm, not sure. I just started with xtset myself this morning when I 
decided I was getting sick of having 10 xterm windows all over my lawn 
with the name 'xterm'. I never gave descriptive labels since I'm most 
often ssh'd into other boxes and am more interested in where I am.

Maybe, depending on how you start each xterm (icon/shortcut), you could 
set a variable name (XTNAME=Mail) for each one, then run:
# xtset `echo $XTNAME`

But now, since I hammered out that little cd() function for .bashrc, I 
found another little problem:

If I su to another user (for instance, su - root), the title changes 
as long as the other account has my the function in .bashrc, but when I 
exit, the title still has the old credentials (example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~) 
until I cd somewhere again. Sigh.

Cheers,
Duane

thanks,
gary

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what's wrong with my ports???

2004-08-11 Thread Duane Winner
Hello all,
This problem has been recurring on my laptop (5.2.1-RELEASE-p9) for the 
past few weeks and I'm scratching my head.

Very frequently, I'll go to portinstall something, and I'll get several 
stop errors, and the build will fail.

But if I do a rm -rf /usr/ports, then re-cvsup my ports collection, I 
can successfully build whatever port I was trying at the time. However, 
a few days later (or whatever), I'll try to build another port, and it 
will start all over. I delete /usr/ports, cvsup again, then I'm fine. 
This has happened several times over the past few weeks and the whole 
manual cvsup'ing to refresh my entire /usr/ports every time is getting 
old. (Although I've noticed I can sometimes get away with just deleting 
the /usr/ports/... directory of the port I'm trying to build and 
cvsup'ing again.)

I'm keeping my ports current the same way on a workstation in at work, 
and I've had no problems there, so I know it has to be something that's 
wrong on my laptop.

Here is the output of the latest port failure (fwbuilder):
===  Applying FreeBSD patches for net-snmp-5.1.2
2 out of 4 hunks failed--saving rejects to 
agent/mibgroup/ucd-snmp/diskio.c.rej
 Patch patch-diskio.c failed to apply cleanly.
 Patch(es) patch-Makefile.in patch-aa patch-auto_nlist.c 
patch-configure.in applied cleanly.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/security/libfwbuilder.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/security/fwbuilder.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa 
/tmp/portinstall79078.0 make
** Fix the problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
! security/fwbuilder(patch error)
---  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed

Thank for any feedback!
-Duane
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Re: what's wrong with my ports???

2004-08-11 Thread Duane Winner
Will wrote:
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Duane Winner wrote:
| Hello all,
|
| This problem has been recurring on my laptop (5.2.1-RELEASE-p9) for the
| past few weeks and I'm scratching my head.
|
| Very frequently, I'll go to portinstall something, and I'll get several
| stop errors, and the build will fail.
|
| But if I do a rm -rf /usr/ports, then re-cvsup my ports collection, I
| can successfully build whatever port I was trying at the time. However,
| a few days later (or whatever), I'll try to build another port, and it
| will start all over. I delete /usr/ports, cvsup again, then I'm fine.
| This has happened several times over the past few weeks and the whole
| manual cvsup'ing to refresh my entire /usr/ports every time is getting
| old. (Although I've noticed I can sometimes get away with just deleting
| the /usr/ports/... directory of the port I'm trying to build and
| cvsup'ing again.)
|
| I'm keeping my ports current the same way on a workstation in at work,
| and I've had no problems there, so I know it has to be something that's
| wrong on my laptop.
|
| Here is the output of the latest port failure (fwbuilder):
|
| ===  Applying FreeBSD patches for net-snmp-5.1.2
| 2 out of 4 hunks failed--saving rejects to
| agent/mibgroup/ucd-snmp/diskio.c.rej
|   Patch patch-diskio.c failed to apply cleanly.
|   Patch(es) patch-Makefile.in patch-aa patch-auto_nlist.c
| patch-configure.in applied cleanly.
| *** Error code 1
|
| Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp.
| *** Error code 1
|
| Stop in /usr/ports/security/libfwbuilder.
| *** Error code 1
|
| Stop in /usr/ports/security/fwbuilder.
| ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
| /tmp/portinstall79078.0 make
| ** Fix the problem and try again.
| ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
| ! security/fwbuilder(patch error)
| ---  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
|
|
| Thank for any feedback!
|
| -Duane
|
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I'm abit confused, just syncing your port tree via cvsup does'nt work?
ie. things wont build after that, but after removing your entire ports
tree they will? Are you sure it couldn'nt be a disc problem with the
ports files being corrupted?
Yeah, I'm confused too :), but that's what's going on. I have a cronjob 
that syncs my ports tree every day at noon. It does:

/usr/local/bin/cvsup -L 2 /usr/sup/supfile
/usr/local/sbin/portsdb -Uu
/usr/sbin/pkg_version -v | grep needs
My supfile is:
*default host=cvsup11.us.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2
*default use-rel-suffix compress
src-all
ports-all tag=.
doc-all tag=.
Additionally, I should mention that the problem isn't consistent.
For instance, yesterday, the cronjob ran and I was notified (pkg_version 
-v) that there were updates to XFree86 et.al.

I got home last night, and did a portupgrade -a. No problem.
Today at noon, cvsup (via cronjob) ran again.
I got home tonight and finally decided to install xmms. So I did a 
portinstall xmms and it installed fine.

Later on, I decided I wanted to install fwbuilder. portinstall 
fwbuilder started, then eventually bombed with the patch errors.

So I rm -rf /usr/ports, did cvsup again which sucked in a virgin ports 
tree again, then tried portinstall fwbuilder again. I'ts humming along 
nicely now.

I'll entertain the possiblity of disk errors, but I am not having any 
other noticeable issues, and I have just one big filesystem (/).

Is it possible portsdb -Uu is hosing things?
-Duane

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Re: what's wrong with my ports???

2004-08-11 Thread Duane Winner

horio shoichi wrote:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:43:45 -0400
Duane Winner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Will wrote:
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Duane Winner wrote:
| Hello all,
|
| This problem has been recurring on my laptop (5.2.1-RELEASE-p9) for the
| past few weeks and I'm scratching my head.
|
| Very frequently, I'll go to portinstall something, and I'll get several
| stop errors, and the build will fail.
|
| But if I do a rm -rf /usr/ports, then re-cvsup my ports collection, I
| can successfully build whatever port I was trying at the time. However,
| a few days later (or whatever), I'll try to build another port, and it
| will start all over. I delete /usr/ports, cvsup again, then I'm fine.
| This has happened several times over the past few weeks and the whole
| manual cvsup'ing to refresh my entire /usr/ports every time is getting
| old. (Although I've noticed I can sometimes get away with just deleting
| the /usr/ports/... directory of the port I'm trying to build and
| cvsup'ing again.)
|
| I'm keeping my ports current the same way on a workstation in at work,
| and I've had no problems there, so I know it has to be something that's
| wrong on my laptop.
|
| Here is the output of the latest port failure (fwbuilder):
|
| ===  Applying FreeBSD patches for net-snmp-5.1.2
| 2 out of 4 hunks failed--saving rejects to
| agent/mibgroup/ucd-snmp/diskio.c.rej
|   Patch patch-diskio.c failed to apply cleanly.
|   Patch(es) patch-Makefile.in patch-aa patch-auto_nlist.c
| patch-configure.in applied cleanly.
| *** Error code 1
|
| Stop in /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp.
| *** Error code 1
|
| Stop in /usr/ports/security/libfwbuilder.
| *** Error code 1
|
| Stop in /usr/ports/security/fwbuilder.
| ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
| /tmp/portinstall79078.0 make
| ** Fix the problem and try again.
| ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
| ! security/fwbuilder(patch error)
| ---  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
|
|
| Thank for any feedback!
|
| -Duane
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I'm abit confused, just syncing your port tree via cvsup does'nt work?
ie. things wont build after that, but after removing your entire ports
tree they will? Are you sure it couldn'nt be a disc problem with the
ports files being corrupted?
Yeah, I'm confused too :), but that's what's going on. I have a cronjob 
that syncs my ports tree every day at noon. It does:

/usr/local/bin/cvsup -L 2 /usr/sup/supfile
/usr/local/sbin/portsdb -Uu
/usr/sbin/pkg_version -v | grep needs
My supfile is:
*default host=cvsup11.us.freebsd.org
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_5_2
*default use-rel-suffix compress
src-all
ports-all tag=.
doc-all tag=.
Additionally, I should mention that the problem isn't consistent.
For instance, yesterday, the cronjob ran and I was notified (pkg_version 
-v) that there were updates to XFree86 et.al.

I got home last night, and did a portupgrade -a. No problem.
Today at noon, cvsup (via cronjob) ran again.
I got home tonight and finally decided to install xmms. So I did a 
portinstall xmms and it installed fine.

Later on, I decided I wanted to install fwbuilder. portinstall 
fwbuilder started, then eventually bombed with the patch errors.

So I rm -rf /usr/ports, did cvsup again which sucked in a virgin ports 
tree again, then tried portinstall fwbuilder again. I'ts humming along 
nicely now.

I'll entertain the possiblity of disk errors, but I am not having any 
other noticeable issues, and I have just one big filesystem (/).

Is it possible portsdb -Uu is hosing things?
-Duane

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No sure if this is the problem, but missing delete may be keeping
stale files sing aloud ?
If adding delete doesn't solve your problem, save the problem port(s)
somewhere before zapping /usr/ports, and compare before and after.
Ugh. That's probably

order of starting services at boot?

2004-08-10 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Can anybody explain to me how FreeBSD 5.2.1 controls the start order of 
the scripts in /etc/rc.d ?

I've looked all over and am having trouble gleening what controls this.
For instance, if I would like to start ipfw before dhclient (right now 
dhclient starts, then ipfw starts), how would I accomplish this?

Thanks,
Duane
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Re: order of starting services at boot?

2004-08-10 Thread Duane Winner

Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Aug 10), Duane Winner said:
Can anybody explain to me how FreeBSD 5.2.1 controls the start order
of the scripts in /etc/rc.d ?
I've looked all over and am having trouble gleening what controls this.

The rc manpage explains rc.d/ and the magic keywords used inside its
scripts.
Ugh. I kept seeing that but kept thinking I was misunderstanding since 
the lines began with '#' and couldn't get over thinking they were 
comments only. Thanks.
 

For instance, if I would like to start ipfw before dhclient (right
now dhclient starts, then ipfw starts), how would I accomplish this?

Add ipfw to dhclient's REQUIRE line.  This change was made to
-current, so when 5.3 ships it'll already do what you want :)
That's good news. So, I take it then I'm not some sort of freak for 
wanting to do this? :)

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openoffice on freebsd broke?

2004-08-06 Thread Duane Winner
Hello all,
I do a cvsup on ports-all daily, and the other day I noticed that 
openoffice-1.1.2 is being report as out of date and that the port has 1.1.3:

openoffice-1.1.2   needs updating (port has 1.1.3)
So I did a '# portupgrade openoffice'
It seemed to compile and install just fine (no errors or problems), but 
now it crashes every time I run it.

As soon as I click on an openoffice window:
A pop-up window message reports
	OpenOffice 1.1.2: An unrecoverable error has occurred. All modified 
files have been saved and and can probably be recovered at program restart.

If I start openoffice-1.1 from an xterm, I see the following output 
after the crash:

crash_report: not found
Fatal exception: signal 11
Stack:
Abort trap (core dumped)
I have replicated this on three different computers, all running 
5.2.1-RELEASE-p9.

Anybody else having this problem?
I've reported this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED], but 
have not seen or heard anything else.

Thanks for any feedback,
Duane Winner
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pgadmin3 and py23-wxpython conflict?

2004-07-23 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Has anybody else had any problems lately trying to install pgadmin3 and 
py23-wxpython on the same machine (from ports?)

It doesn't seem to work.
It appears that they both use different versions of wxgtk and they're 
stepping on each other's toes.

Any reports/advice/solution would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Duane Winner
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save-entropy cronjob Added: not found every 10 minutes

2004-07-19 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Does anybody know what is going on with the crobjob 
/usr/libexec/save-entropy that by default is scheduled to run every 10 
minutes?

I'm getting tons of log mail because of this, but I don't want to just 
comment out the cronjob because it is annoying.

It is only happening on one of my FreeBSD 5.2.1 boxes, and the only 
thing I can figure that is causing it (different from other boxes) is 
that it is running the dhcpd server.

Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Duane Winner

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Added: not found

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Re: save-entropy cronjob Added: not found every 10 minutes

2004-07-19 Thread Duane Winner
Thanks! Using your technique, I discovered that I stupidly forgot to put 
a '#' before one of my comments in /etc/rc.conf.


Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Jul 19), Duane Winner said:
Does anybody know what is going on with the cronjob
/usr/libexec/save-entropy that by default is scheduled to run every
10 minutes?
I'm getting tons of log mail because of this, but I don't want to
just comment out the cronjob because it is annoying.

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Added: not found

Try changing the top line of that script to read 

  #!/bin/sh -x
, which will log every command that it runs to stderr.  You should then
be able to determine which line is printing that error message.  My
guess is something in your rc.conf is doing it.
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Problem trying to rebuild mozilla from port

2004-07-09 Thread Duane Winner
Hello all,
I am trying to reinstall mozilla from port and I'm not getting the 
options screen that allows me to select which options I want to compile 
into Mozilla.

When I did a portinstall mozilla yesterday, I got the standard curses 
menu that gives me the options to build with Calendar, MailNews, et.al.

I did a pkg_delete mozilla-1.7,2 this morning, and now when I try to do 
a portinstall again, I don't get the options menu.

I noticed right before it began to build a message that said:
-- Found saved configuration for mozilla-1.7,2
Where does the ports collection save this information and how can I 
reinitialize it so that I can build mozilla again with different options?

Thanks for any info.
Duane Winner
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Re: Problem trying to rebuild mozilla from port

2004-07-09 Thread Duane Winner
I found it:
/var/db/ports

Duane Winner wrote:
Hello all,
I am trying to reinstall mozilla from port and I'm not getting the 
options screen that allows me to select which options I want to compile 
into Mozilla.

When I did a portinstall mozilla yesterday, I got the standard curses 
menu that gives me the options to build with Calendar, MailNews, et.al.

I did a pkg_delete mozilla-1.7,2 this morning, and now when I try to do 
a portinstall again, I don't get the options menu.

I noticed right before it began to build a message that said:
-- Found saved configuration for mozilla-1.7,2
Where does the ports collection save this information and how can I 
reinitialize it so that I can build mozilla again with different options?

Thanks for any info.
Duane Winner
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newbie ACPI questions

2004-07-08 Thread Duane Winner
Hi all.
I'm just getting my feet wet with using basic ACPI functionality. Up 
until my FreeBSD release and/or hardware only supported APM, so that's 
all I have used until now.

I have a Dell Precision 650n running RELEASE-5.2.1p9, and it seems that 
ACPI works as far as I can tell, but I'm not clear on how to use it 
correctly in all circumstances.

My first problem was that I could not do a power off (halt -p or 
shutdown now -p) -- ACPI would tell me that it could not do it then I 
would have to hit the power button or a key on the keyboard to reboot.

I solved this by adding hw.acpi.disable_on_poweroff=0 to 
/etc/sysctl.conf. Now I can either type halt -p/shutdown now -p or just 
hit the power button on the Dell and FreeBSD will gracefully shutdown 
and power off.

Now I'm trying to get my arms around suspend functionality, and I'm not 
so clear as to the best way of suspending.

If I type 'zzz' (which appears to the equivelent of 'acpiconf -s 3'), 
the Dell does suspend, and the power button green LED blinks, which 
according the Dell manual, means the hardware thinks it is suspended. 
But I can't get it out of suspend. Pressing any key on the keyboard or 
mouse has no effect. If I press the power switch (which the Dell manual 
says should bring it out of suspend), then the system reboots.

I have also tried 'acpiconf -s 1', which seems to work better than s3. I 
can bring the system out of suspend by hitting the power button. 
However, when in suspend, the screen does not go blank. I can still see 
whatever was on the console, plus some output from acpiconf:
fwohci0: fwochi_pci_suspend

'acpiconf -s 1' also seems to work when I'm within X as well (using 
XFCE4). I can type 'acpiconf -s 1' from an xterm, and X will blank, 
return me to the console, and suspend -- but I can still see whatever is 
on the console. If I hit the power button (keyboard/mouse does not 
work), then I resume and X comes back to where it should be.

I have also tried '-s 4', and that just shuts down the whole computer.
I guess S1 would be fine for me suspending, but would S3 be better (if I 
can get it to resume correctly)? If S1 is all I can use, what can I do 
to blank the screen as well as suspend the system?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Following is info I thought 
would be pertainent.

Thanks,
Duane Winner
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System: Dell Precision 650n (option in BIOS to set power mgmt to S1 or S3)
FreeBSD: 5.2.1 p9
-su-2.05b# sysctl hw.acpi
hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S3 S4 S5
hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5
hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1
hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: S1
hw.acpi.standby_state: S1
hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3
hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 5
hw.acpi.s4bios: 0
hw.acpi.verbose: 0
hw.acpi.disable_on_poweroff: 0
hw.acpi.reset_video: 1
hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/0
hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: 0
hw.acpi.cpu.cx_history: 96654/0
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Re: newbie ACPI questions

2004-07-08 Thread Duane Winner
I did try to set the BIOS to S1 (from S3) and it appears that all that 
does is limit the capability of ACPI. After changing, hw.acpi no longer 
shows S3 in the list of supported sleep states, and if I try 'zzz' or 
'acpiconf -s 3', acpi reports that as unsupported. (supported states 
after changing the bios from S3 to S1 are: S1 S4 S5)

-Duane
User LAFFER1 wrote:
I also have a precision 650 at home.  What is acpi's setting in the 
bios? You can set it to s3 or s1 in there.  I would check that.  I just 
got my system on refurb from dell and haven't had a chance to play much 
yet. :)

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Duane Winner wrote:
Hi all.
I'm just getting my feet wet with using basic ACPI functionality. Up 
until my FreeBSD release and/or hardware only supported APM, so that's 
all I have used until now.

I have a Dell Precision 650n running RELEASE-5.2.1p9, and it seems 
that ACPI works as far as I can tell, but I'm not clear on how to use 
it correctly in all circumstances.

My first problem was that I could not do a power off (halt -p or 
shutdown now -p) -- ACPI would tell me that it could not do it then I 
would have to hit the power button or a key on the keyboard to reboot.

I solved this by adding hw.acpi.disable_on_poweroff=0 to 
/etc/sysctl.conf. Now I can either type halt -p/shutdown now -p or 
just hit the power button on the Dell and FreeBSD will gracefully 
shutdown and power off.

Now I'm trying to get my arms around suspend functionality, and I'm 
not so clear as to the best way of suspending.

If I type 'zzz' (which appears to the equivelent of 'acpiconf -s 3'), 
the Dell does suspend, and the power button green LED blinks, which 
according the Dell manual, means the hardware thinks it is suspended. 
But I can't get it out of suspend. Pressing any key on the keyboard or 
mouse has no effect. If I press the power switch (which the Dell 
manual says should bring it out of suspend), then the system reboots.

I have also tried 'acpiconf -s 1', which seems to work better than s3. 
I can bring the system out of suspend by hitting the power button. 
However, when in suspend, the screen does not go blank. I can still 
see whatever was on the console, plus some output from acpiconf:
   fwohci0: fwochi_pci_suspend

'acpiconf -s 1' also seems to work when I'm within X as well (using 
XFCE4). I can type 'acpiconf -s 1' from an xterm, and X will blank, 
return me to the console, and suspend -- but I can still see whatever 
is on the console. If I hit the power button (keyboard/mouse does not 
work), then I resume and X comes back to where it should be.

I have also tried '-s 4', and that just shuts down the whole computer.
I guess S1 would be fine for me suspending, but would S3 be better (if 
I can get it to resume correctly)? If S1 is all I can use, what can I 
do to blank the screen as well as suspend the system?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Following is info I thought 
would be pertainent.

Thanks,
Duane Winner
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System: Dell Precision 650n (option in BIOS to set power mgmt to S1 or 
S3)
FreeBSD: 5.2.1 p9

-su-2.05b# sysctl hw.acpi
hw.acpi.supported_sleep_state: S1 S3 S4 S5
hw.acpi.power_button_state: S5
hw.acpi.sleep_button_state: S1
hw.acpi.lid_switch_state: S1
hw.acpi.standby_state: S1
hw.acpi.suspend_state: S3
hw.acpi.sleep_delay: 5
hw.acpi.s4bios: 0
hw.acpi.verbose: 0
hw.acpi.disable_on_poweroff: 0
hw.acpi.reset_video: 1
hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/0
hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: 0
hw.acpi.cpu.cx_history: 96654/0
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APM and DRI lockups when suspending

2004-07-07 Thread Duane Winner
Does anybody know if there is a workaround for the problem with DRI and 
APM within X?

If I load the DRI module in my XF86Config file, and attempt to suspend 
my laptop, the system freezes on resume, then reboots.

If I comment out the line Load dri out of the Module section in 
/etc/X11/XF86Config, all is well.

But now I don't have direct rendering capability, correct? I don't think 
I have any apps yet that need direct rendering, so it probably isn't a 
huge deal (yet), but I would like to have it enable if possible.

Does anybody know of a solution or simple workaround for this problem?
Thanks,
Duane Winner
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USB Tape Drive (Seagate Travan)

2004-06-23 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Has anybody out there ever had any experience and/or success with 
attaching a Seagate USB Travan Tape Drive to FreeBSD? (Or any USB tape 
drive for that matter?)

I plug it in, and FreeBSD detects it and brings up a 'Freecom USB-ATAPI' 
hardware on  /dev/ugen0.

However I don't see any ATAPI tape devices (/dev/ast*).
Am I just SOL or is there hope of getting it working? I don't see it (or 
any USB tape drive) listed on the FreeBSD supported hardware.

But I thought I would try anyway. If anybody has any success or just 
plain info on this, I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Duane Winner
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Apache2 and UserDir in FreeBSD

2004-06-16 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Does anybody know why this is happening:
I have found that with apache2, installed via portinstall on both 4.9 
and 5.x, the UserDir is enabled even if it is commented out in httpd.conf!

It is on by default in the stock httpd.conf that installs with apache2. 
If I comment it out and restart, I have found that users can still 
create public_html directories in their home directories, and publish 
content.

Why is this happening?
Thanks,
Duane Winner
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IPv6 and PPP problem

2004-06-10 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,
Mozilla is apparantly broken when it comes to IPv6 and attempting to do 
 DNS lookups. I found numerous google results that report this 
problem and suggested recompiling the kernel with IPv6 disabled.

I did this, and Mozilla is again rip-roaring fast.
But now PPP does not work!
Does anybody know why PPP does not work when IPv6 is disabled in the 
kernel and what can I do about it?

I am running:
FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p8
mozilla-1.6_4,2
To disable IPv6, I simply edited my custom kernel config and commented out:
#options  INET6
and recompiled.
Thanks for any info,
Duane Winner
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openoffice-1.1

2004-05-27 Thread Duane Winner
Does anybody know what happened to OpenOffice-1.1 port?

I just did a portinstall on it last week with no problems, but now the port is marked 
as broken for FreeBSD  5.x.

** 'editors/openoffice-1.1' is marked as IGNORE:
is marked as broken: Does not compile on 4.x (tries to link to libpthread)

Fortunately, I created a package out of it when I made it last week, but I'm still 
concerned.

Is it a compile-only problem (will I get surprises during run-time?)
and
Will this be fixed soon?

Thanks for any info.

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stupid sendmail question (did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN)

2004-04-23 Thread Duane Winner
Hello all:

I am getting this in my /var/log/maillog:

Apr 23 15:23:39 library sm-mta[169]: i3NJNd8g000169: localhost 
[127.0.0.1] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA

when my Tomcat serlvets attempt to send an email from my web app.

I only want sendmail listing on 127.0.0.1:25, and the web app is 
configured to use 127.0.0.1 as it's mail server. It works fine on my Red 
Hat implementation, but I'm guessing FreeBSD sendmail is tightened up 
even more.

I know that sendmail is working, because I can use the 'mail' MUA and 
send myself a quick email.

I'm guessing this is a little different that just going #mail blahblah, 
because I'm doing mail relaying? But why would sendmail be denying mail 
relaying from itself (localhost).

Is this fairly simple to address? I know its probably stupid, but I 
haven't played with sendmail in about 3 years, and never completely 
understood then either.

Thanks for any info.

-Duane
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method to test for link before dhclient at boot?

2004-02-19 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

I'm wondering if anybody knows a technique for this problem:

I have a laptop that I frequently boot when it is not plugged into an
ethernet network.

In these circumstances, I would like to add some logic during boot time
that looks at at the status of my fxp0 interface.

If status: no carrier is true, then I do not want dhclient to run. I
want the boot process to bypass DHCP so that it will boot faster, or so
that I don't have to hit CTRL-C after the hostname is set, and so that
I can easily run my wireless setup script or ppp manually if I choose to
connect to a network at all.

But I still need to be able to detect an active link state on fxp0 and
lease a DHCP address automatically for when I'm in the office and
plugged in.

Is there a way to accomplish this?

Thanks,
DW

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Re: Mounting to freebsd ufs under WinXP

2004-02-13 Thread Duane Winner
I look into this issue an average of once a year, because it's always
been my dream to have a dual boot machine in which XP can read/write my
UFS/ext2/etc. partitions and FreeBSD/Linux/etc. can read/write my NTFS
partitions.

I've seen a handful of 3rd party software out there that seems to come
close, but I've never actually tried any of them because I get the
impression that they are buggy, not fully-developed, or worse, abandoned
projects.

My current, (and actually quite happy) compromise is to have XP on FAT32
(because *nix can't write to NTFS {yet}), and then do my schleping while
booted into FreeBSD. I backup my XP data from FreeBSD, and if I need to
transfer files to XP, FreeBSD can write to that partition.

I mount /dev/ad0s1 and make a sybolic link in my home directory to what
would be C:\Documents and Settings\myname\My Documents.

So when I do an ls /home/myname/windata, I will see my XP My
Documents. I can delete, create and edit files through this, too.

Works pretty nicely for me. I'm not crazy about the FAT32 compromise
(I've always been a stickler for NTFS security), but for a single user
box, I'm willing to compromise. Wouldn't dream of doing this on a
production box, though.

Regards,
DW

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 17:28, Peter Leftwich wrote:
 I researched this on the web but found nothing relevant or useful.
 
 Can someone recommend software that lets you mount TO freebsd (ufs)
 partition FROM WITHIN Windows XP Pro SP1 (transparently)?
 
 Samba, which is open source and free, isn't a solution because it
 requires a working [freebsd] operating system and running a daemon.
 
 Thanks mucho diGiornio,
 
 --
 Peter Leftwich, President  Founder
 Video2Video Services
 Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039, USA
 http://Www.Video2Video.Com
 
 
 
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Re: Problem with ssh

2004-02-12 Thread Duane Winner
On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 14:49, Dragoncrest wrote:
 Hi again everyone.  Ok, this issue just popped up today on a different
 machine, but it's still bugging me either way.  My home mail server
 (freebsd 4.8) has SSH available to the internet so I can get into the
 box from work if need be.  That is the only port open as it's a fetching
 mail server so port 25 isn't available to the rest of the world.  Nor is
 110.  What I just discovered today is that my sshd is allowing auth by
 public key OR password.  I don't want it to auth by password.  JUST
 public key.  So in other words if you don't already have the public key
 file, well, it sucks being you because you won't get connected.
 
 Anyone know how to do this?  Or would this question be better handled on
 an SSH mailing list?  If so, which list is best and how do I sign up? 
 Much apreciated on the info.  Thanks.
 

For what it's worth, this is my config that does exactly what you are
looking for. It allows auth by public key only, i.e., the user's public
key must be concatenated into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 in their
respective home dir.

There might be some better tweaking I could do to this, but haven't
gotten around to yet. The main thing is that it does pubkey auth and
accepts ssh protocol 2 only.

Hope this helps.



Port 22
Protocol 2
ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
LoginGraceTime 120
PermitRootLogin no
StrictModes yes
RhostsAuthentication no
IgnoreRhosts yes
/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
RhostsRSAAuthentication no
PasswordAuthentication no
PermitEmptyPasswords no
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
X11Forwarding no
PrintMotd yes
Subsystem   sftp/usr/libexec/sftp-server


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stupid packages question

2004-02-12 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

I'm sure there is an easy answer to this that I just haven't been able
to gleen from reading stuff:

How can I make packages for all the depencies of a package that I'm
trying to create in one fell swoop?

Example:
If I go into /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade and type
make package
it builds a nice package that I can send to other machines to install,
but then of course I will need to install all the depencies first, which
means I have to go back to my build box, find all the sources and make
package on all of them. Kinda tedious. Is there an easier way?

I've read about make package in about 5 different docs/books, but none
of the mention this problem.

Thanks for any info.

-DW


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com ports in freebsd

2004-02-11 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

I have a question about how FreeBSD handles the serial ports.

After messing around for 2 days, I finally got my PCMCIA modem working
on my laptop. All I really had to do was to
cd /dev/  ./MAKEDEV cuaa4

I did this because dmesg kept reporting the Megahertz modem at sio4.

What I don't understand is the why or how. My kernel config is still
using the default sio0 thru sio3 devices:
device  sio0at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device  sio1at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
device sio2at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
device sio3at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9

So if there is now sio4 in the kernel, how is this working?

I'm not complaining, nor looking for a solution, since I have everything
working now.

I'm just trying to understand how this working.

Thanks,
DW



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another PPP question

2004-02-11 Thread Duane Winner
Hello again,

I'm still messing around with trying to trim down my kernel as much as
possible with just the functionality I need.

After much trial and error, I found the line that kept PPP from
functioning:

#options INET6

(commented this line out)

I really have no need at all for IPv6 functionality, and would prefer to
not have compiled in.

Can anybody tell me why I need INET6 for PPP to work? Or if there is a
workaround to get PPP to work if I disable this?


Thanks again,
DW



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gnome screensaver

2004-02-09 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

I've searched all over and posted a question to gnome mailing lists, and
still don't have an answer to this annoyance. Hopefully somebody here
might know a solution, even though this isn't freebsd-specific.

How can I fix the gnome screensaver so that it utilizes my full
1280x1024 screen when I'm docked and using my external monitor? When I
am using my laptop monitor (1024x768), the screen saver consumes the
entire screen, just as it should. But when I'm on my 1280x1024 monitor,
the Gnome screensaver only consumes 1024x768 area of the monitor,
leaving the remaining active desktop space visible.
I pretty sure that this is a gnome problem, because in the past, when I
used KDE, the screensaver worked fine. I also  know that this has
nothing to do with freebsd config, because I had the same issue with
both Redhat9 and Fedora.

Again, I know that this is not FreeBSD problem, but I tried everywhere
else, and am shooting in the dark at this point.

Thanks for any input,
DW


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Re: Building JDK14

2004-01-30 Thread Duane Winner
This might be a moot point by now, but you you should also double-check
to make sure that your non-native java is working before you start to
build the native version. I don't use blackdown, I use the linux-sun
flavor, but before building native jdk14, I make sure the other is
running by typing:
#/usr/local/linux-sun-jdk1.4.2/bin/java -version
If I get a satifactory repsponse, then I know it's good, and I proceed.
(Obviously, I'm guessing that your path will be different since you
using blackdown)

If I get a Heap at VM Abort message, then I know that linux-java isn't
working, and I should not proceed to build the native jdk14. This
message has always meant (at least in my circumstances) that I forgot to
mount linprocfs.

-DW




On Fri, 2004-01-30 at 09:57, Jorn Argelo wrote:
 It was busy for 20 hours and still not finished. It wasn't hanging though; the 
 java executable was still running. However I stopped it, mounted the mounted 
 procfs and linprocfs now and it's running now again. Hopefully it'll work 
 now.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Jorn
 
 On Friday 30 January 2004 11:58, you wrote:
  If I understand correctly your build takes very long when the build
  of the linux jdk is complete and the linux jdk is used to build the
  native jdk.
 
  The reason for this may be that you did not mount the linux proc fs as
  it is printed on the screen when installing the linux jdk. This happened
  to me some weeks ago. The build of the native jdk then starts, but
  hangs.  Mounting the linux proc fs and restarting the build did solve
  the problem.
 
  Regards, Dominik.
 
  On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 09:40:03PM +0100, Jorn Argelo wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   I'm currently building JDK14 from the ports tree (/usr/ports/java/jdk14)
   on FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE. Before that I compiled blackdown-java from the
   ports-tree so I could compile the native one. However, it's busy for
   almost four hours now with building it. Now my question was, does anybody
   know how long is this going to take?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Jorn
  
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Re: Building JDK14

2004-01-29 Thread Duane Winner
That's about right. Give or take several hours, YMMV depending on your
hardware :)

I did jdk14 patch5 a couple of weeks ago and it took over 4 hours on my
laptop (~1GHz).

I'm doing jdk14 patch6 right now at this moment on Dell Precision 420. I
started it about 3 hours ago, and I'm about to go home for the day.
Should be done by my arrival to work for free coffee tomorrow!



On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 15:40, Jorn Argelo wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I'm currently building JDK14 from the ports tree (/usr/ports/java/jdk14) on 
 FreeBSD 5.2-RELEASE. Before that I compiled blackdown-java from the 
 ports-tree so I could compile the native one. However, it's busy for almost 
 four hours now with building it. Now my question was, does anybody know how 
 long is this going to take? 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jorn
 
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dual-booting with xp

2004-01-15 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

I am trying to install FreeBSD 4.9 on a machine that already has XP
installed. It has 3 SCSI drives. I would like to keep XP on the first
drive, and install FreeBSD on the third drive and make it dual-boot.
What's the easiest way?

When I installed, I made a slice on the 3rd disk (using entire disk) and
created my partitions there. I also selected the FreeBSD bootmanager,
but it doesn't seem to write to the first disk, so now when I reboot, I
don't get a bootmanager menu at all, but go right into XP every time.

Thanks,
Duane


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How do YOU stay up to date?

2004-01-14 Thread Duane Winner
Hello all again,

I'm finally getting my arms around FreeBSD and the updating processes
and tools. But I'm still trying to come up with good
habits/methods/instructions for updating routines for both myself and my
colleagues who also want to switch to FreeBSD.

I now understand how to use cvsup to keep my src and ports tree current.
I know how to use pkg_add -r to install new sotware, or go into
/usr/ports/whatever to make install. I know how to do portupgrade to
upgrade my installed ports, how to pkg_version -v to see what's out of
date with my tree, and how to cronjob cvsup to keep my trees current. (I
still need to play more with make world and whatnot)

But what do you all out there in BSD land do to stay current as a
practice? I'm looking at this on two fronts: FreeBSD on our laptops
(There will be at least 3 of us with T23's, and I also plan on migrating
most, if not all of my servers from Linux to FreeBSD).

One thing that concerns me, at least on the laptops, is the amount of
time spent compiling new software as it is release, seeing as how we
will be running x, gnome and Yahweh knows what elseI've already
spent a great deal of time recompiling all this stuff to get current.
(granted, I'm still experimenting, blowing my machine away, starting
over, to both learn and write up instructions for the other guys, so I'm
repeating the pains). 

How is this going to affect us longterm with staying current if we are
constantly getting new source and having to recompile? One of my
colleagues has proposed just using packages as much as possible. But
although it seems simple enough to to go pkg_add -r gnome2, what about
updating? I mean, after installing the package, pkg_version -v many
packages are listed as out of date with my current ports tree. So how to
update short of doing a portupgrade -Pa and waiting a few or several
hours?

As far as the servers go, I'm almost certain that I'll be standardizing
on 4.9-RELEASE, with minimal software, so I'm not so concerned here
since the security/bug fixes seem far and few between for this release.

I'm just looking for advice. If the long way is the only way, fine. I
need to start writing up some standards and procedures so we can move
on. But if there are more efficient methods, or methods to make things
easier on everybody else, or some technique I'm just plain missing, I'm
all ears.

Thanks for any info, guidance or virtual asskicking you can provide me.
And sorry my post is so long.

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Re: How do YOU stay up to date?

2004-01-14 Thread Duane Winner
Thanks for the reply, which was very helpful.

Could you just clarify one thing for me? On your last point regarding
'SECURITY - STABLE - CURRENT', my understanding up to now has been that
this applies to the FreeBSD 'src' tree only, but not to the ports
collection. Am I correct?

If we are running 4.9-RELEASE, and cvsuping using 'RELENG_4_9', my
assumption is that we'll rarely have to do a 'buildworld' or recompile
the kernel, correct?
But ports don't fall under the same tracking mechanism, correct?
(I have a line 'ports-all tag=.' in my supfile because I read that there
are no release tags for ports).

I just want to make sure I understand all of this correctly. 

Thanks again,
Duane



On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 23:27, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 On Wednesday 14 January 2004 10:11 pm, Duane Winner wrote:
  Hello all again,
 
  I'm finally getting my arms around FreeBSD and the updating processes
  and tools. But I'm still trying to come up with good
  habits/methods/instructions for updating routines for both myself and my
  colleagues who also want to switch to FreeBSD.
 
  I now understand how to use cvsup to keep my src and ports tree current.
  I know how to use pkg_add -r to install new sotware, or go into
  /usr/ports/whatever to make install. I know how to do portupgrade to
  upgrade my installed ports, how to pkg_version -v to see what's out of
  date with my tree, and how to cronjob cvsup to keep my trees current. (I
  still need to play more with make world and whatnot)
 
  But what do you all out there in BSD land do to stay current as a
  practice? I'm looking at this on two fronts: FreeBSD on our laptops
  (There will be at least 3 of us with T23's, and I also plan on migrating
  most, if not all of my servers from Linux to FreeBSD).
 
  One thing that concerns me, at least on the laptops, is the amount of
  time spent compiling new software as it is release, seeing as how we
  will be running x, gnome and Yahweh knows what elseI've already
  spent a great deal of time recompiling all this stuff to get current.
  (granted, I'm still experimenting, blowing my machine away, starting
  over, to both learn and write up instructions for the other guys, so I'm
  repeating the pains).
 
  How is this going to affect us longterm with staying current if we are
  constantly getting new source and having to recompile? One of my
  colleagues has proposed just using packages as much as possible. But
  although it seems simple enough to to go pkg_add -r gnome2, what about
  updating? I mean, after installing the package, pkg_version -v many
  packages are listed as out of date with my current ports tree. So how to
  update short of doing a portupgrade -Pa and waiting a few or several
  hours?
 
 
 The existence of newer source code is not, in and of itself, justification for 
 an upgrade.  Each day brings new source code.  It is up to the administrator 
 to monitor new features, bug fixes and security issues to determine when an 
 upgrade is warranted.
 
 Also, keep in mind:
 
 1. portupgrade -rR port name will upgrade the specified port, its 
 dependencies and any ports that depend upon the specified port.  You don't 
 have to update all ports at once to keep port dependencies in sync.
 
 2. Packages installed with pkg_add, that have associated ports, can be 
 upgraded using portupgrade.
 
 3. Unless your use of computers demands cutting or bleeding edge code, 
 tracking SECURITY may meet your needs as well or better than STABLE or 
 CURRENT.
 
 Best regards,
 
 Andrew Gould
 
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staying 'up-to-date' questions

2004-01-07 Thread Duane Winner
Hello,

I'm suffering from some confusion regarding keeping my FreeBSD systems
up-to-date. Does anybody have any 'best practices' advice?
I've been reading three books (Complete BSD, Absolute, Unleased) as well
the handbook, but I'm still not clear about how I should manage my
up-to-date practices.

I know how to use cvsup, and have done it.
I know how to customize and install a kernel, and have done that as
well.
I know how to do a 'make buildworld/installworld' and I have also used
pkg_version -v and portupgrade.

But I'm still not sure how to be certain my system(s) are up-to-date.

I've installed 4.9-RELEASE from the .ISO image.
I just want to be certain that I have all security patches now and in
the future.

If I have *default release=cvs tag=RELEASE_4_9 in my cvsup file, will
I get all the updates I need to be secure?

How do I know when to build a new kernel? How will I know when there is
a security patch for the kernel?
If I cronjob cvsup and rebuild the kernel once a week, will I be up to
date?
How do I know if my running kernel is up-to-date?

Sorry if I'm coming off as dense here, but it's strange -- I was always
told that FreeBSD is much more difficult to master than Linux. But for
the most part, I'm finding it much easier to get my arms around. It's
just this concept of staying current that is driving me batty.

For you folks who want to maintain stable, secure FreeBSD severs, what
practices do you follow?

Thanks for any advice.

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Slow boot when not plugged into network

2004-01-06 Thread Duane Winner
Does anybody know of a workaround for this?

When I'm not connected to my ethernet network, it takes an extra 90
seconds to boot my FreeBSD laptop, as it hangs on this boot message
before timing out:

Doing initial network setup: hostname

I'm guessing it has something to do with DNS lookup and can't reach the
server(s), but I'm not sure.

I had a similar problem in the past when I used Debian, but never really
addressed it. For the most part, I can deal with it, but sometimes it is
embarrassing, like when I'm doing a presentation or something and
everybody is twiddling their thumbs while waiting for me.

Thanks for any advice.



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