Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-16 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 05:06:27PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
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 Rudy wrote:
 
  With all this talk about FLASH, I found something out by trial and
  error and want to post again to the list so that others searching
  can get the FLASH player working in their brower:
 
  THIS STEP IS NEEDED OR FLASH WILL NOT WORK:
 
  sysctl compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20
 
 I am using 8-current (amd64) and found all I needed to do was install
 www/linux-flashplugin7 then do a nspluginwrapper -v -a -i and flash
 works fine (as far I can tell)... 

Hot damn, that worked. I now have Flash in native Firefox. I never
really paid much attention to the commands for nspluginwrapper or knew
they were necessary. I have also never really gotten Flash to work but
didn't try very hard at it, either.

Thanks.

- jt

 does this add any functionality I
 am not aware of?  (namely some sites seem to partially load like the
 graphs at whos.among.us [the easiest way to test this is go to the
 site in my signature then click on the 3rd icon at the bottom and then
 click on graphs])
 
  Better yet, add this to your /etc/sysctl.conf file and reboot:
  compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20
 
  NOTE: I just picked 2.6.20 kinda at random... seems like that is
  the linux kernel number (which I know nothing about) for the Fedora
  7 release.  Oh, and I installed Fedora 7 instead of the default
  Fedora Core 4 on my desktop.
 
  Why does the linux emulation pick 2.4.2 as the kernel version
  number to report (by default) and not 2.6.11 (their kernel version
  shipped with Fedora 4)?  Seems like the ports should and linux
  module should be updated...
 
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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-14 Thread Reid Linnemann
Written by Rudy on 01/10/08 18:58
 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
 
 rm /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/fp7_archive.zip


 An other way to fix it in some ways is to run a make makesum to update
 the distfile checksums
 
 The fp7_archive.zip was an odd case were I felt more comfortable
 deleting it -- hadn't see that error before (and didn't save it to cut
 and paste).  I thought it was only my system, but apparently, others had
 this same issue with the fp7_archive.zip file.  Maybe a new one was
 released with the same filename on adobe?
 
 Would makesum would blindly use what is in the /usr/ports/distfiles --
 corrupt, man-in-the-middled, or whatever was there?  I've never used
 makesum...  I will RTFM.  :)
 
 Rudy
 

I haven't been following this thread, but FWIW make sure you disable the
Composite extension on your X server, or the plugin will not work
correctly. I'm not sure why, but without disabling Composite I've only
gotten gray windows where the player should be.

In xorg.conf:

Section Extensions
Option Composite Off
EndSection
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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-14 Thread Modulok
Does anyone else have audio/video sync issues with linux-flashplugin7?
Following the general procedure outlined in this thread,
linux-flashplugin7 does work...sort of. The video proceeds the audio.
This holds true for linux-opera and linux-firefox. The synch gap
widens as time progresses. In a 5 minute clip, the offset is probably
5-10 seconds or more.

Anyone else?
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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-14 Thread Rudy

Modulok wrote:

Does anyone else have audio/video sync issues with linux-flashplugin7?
Following the general procedure outlined in this thread,
linux-flashplugin7 does work...sort of. The video proceeds the audio.
This holds true for linux-opera and linux-firefox. The synch gap
widens as time progresses. In a 5 minute clip, the offset is probably
5-10 seconds or more.



I have audio lag as well.  Never heard of turning off COMPOSITE mode in the xorg.conf... will try 
right now!


Also, I got this update from Alexander Leidinger:
2.6.x emulation is not available in 6.x or 5.x (2.6.20 is totally
wrong, the only 2.6 kernel version we are targeting ATM is 2.6.16). It
is also not stable yet, there are known bugs. linux_base-f7 is also
only useable with 2.6 emulation, installing it is not recommended for
non-developers.

so, set your linuxemu to a lower kernel version than I blindly recommended 
before:
 echo compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16  /etc/sysctl.conf

I say, push forward and get 2.6.16 stable and forget 2.4.2 on the FreeBSD 7 branch!  People want 
old linux emulation?  Use FreeBSD 6!


Time to restart X,
Rudy




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Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-13 Thread Gerard
On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:25:15 -0600
eculp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]
 
 Flash is becoming more dominate daily and there are many sites that  
 are basically unusable without it.  Some banking, telco, etc. sites,  
 etc.  That are difficult if not impossible too use for account
 access without flash and don't pay much attention to end user
 requests based on the installed base of Flash[89].  That brings up
 another detail, many sites now require Flash[89] even though they
 don't actually need it probably to impress their customers with their
 being on the technological, bleeding edge.

Unfortunately, the poor support for Flash, as well as other common web
features under FBSD, is a prime reason that I continue to keep my WinXP
PC operational. At least Window's Internet Explorer, despite its real
or alleged problems, can correctly access virtually any site I want or
need to visit. As the above poster stated, being able to correctly and
expeditiously navigate through a banking site is an important criteria.

I belong to a state 'Officials Association' that deals with officiating
High School sports. Their site is written in such a way that Flash with
either Windows Media Player or QuickTime are required to properly view
the site. Try as I might, I have never gotten either Opera or Firefox
using FBSD to correctly view that site. I basically just gave up on it.
The same problem exists with many sites sponsored by Google for
instance.

If this was 1990, perhaps I could understand it. However, considering
the present state of computing, the fact that plug-ins like Flash are
not simple drop-in applets, similar to the way Internet Explorer
handles them, is simply not acceptable.

Just my 2ยข.

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Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-13 Thread Roland Smith
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 09:53:41AM -0500, Gerard wrote:
snip
 I belong to a state 'Officials Association' that deals with officiating
 High School sports. Their site is written in such a way that Flash with
 either Windows Media Player or QuickTime are required to properly view
 the site.

So their message is, We're not interested in people who don't use
windows. There is not anything that the FreeBSD community can do about
that. 

 Try as I might, I have never gotten either Opera or Firefox
 using FBSD to correctly view that site. I basically just gave up on it.
 The same problem exists with many sites sponsored by Google for
 instance.
 
 If this was 1990, perhaps I could understand it. However, considering
 the present state of computing, the fact that plug-ins like Flash are
 not simple drop-in applets, similar to the way Internet Explorer
 handles them, is simply not acceptable.

Then go and complain to the people who wrote flash. If they want to release
plugins for Firefox on FreeBSD they can do so. 

Since Flash is closed-source, there isn't a lot people in the FreeBSD
community can do about it.

There are several groups working on open-source implementations of
Flash, but these efforts are incomplete due to lack of documentation and
possibly volunteers.


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Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-13 Thread Wojciech Puchar


Unfortunately, the poor support for Flash, as well as other common web
features under FBSD, is a prime reason that I continue to keep my WinXP


flash is a proprietary feature, which doesn't run FreeBSD.

you may try to use linux browsers under emulation, you may use windows or 
do whatever else. using windows could be even better as most crappy sites 
are designed having only windows in mind and (w)internet explorer.


or - like me, you may simply don't use it.

i have a lot of choices about what bank to use, and the usability of web 
banking on MY (html/http compatible anyway) system was important. the bank 
i chose doesn't only run without flash and java, it just have best of all 
webservice, and have best bank offer anyway.


i do EVERYTHING through internet, being actually once in their office.

i think there is something similar in your country.

if others require flash7, java or other craps, they just don't want me to 
be their client.



same with every other sites. nothing wrong if they use flash to make some 
animation, but with site completely usable without this. if it's unusable 
- it means they don't like people like me to use/read that page. 
so i don't read and say no thanks


to tell you the truth - such site are usually not useful even without 
flash :)



so - while i've tested linux-opera port working with flash7, i just don't 
use it, and use native opera (and links-gui).

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Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-13 Thread Modulok
  Unfortunately, the poor support for Flash, as well as other common web
  features under FBSD, is a prime reason that I continue to keep my WinXP

 or - like me, you may simply don't use it.
...
 if others require flash7, java or other craps, they just don't want me to
 be their client.
...


I cannot express the extent of my loathing for Flash (and JavaScript).
Unfortunately, as has been stated, many businesses employ such evils.
In some cases it is nice to tell them to piss off, in others that is
beyond the realm of possibility.

-Modulok-
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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-10 Thread Rudy

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:


rm /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/fp7_archive.zip



An other way to fix it in some ways is to run a make makesum to update
the distfile checksums


The fp7_archive.zip was an odd case were I felt more comfortable deleting it -- hadn't see that 
error before (and didn't save it to cut and paste).  I thought it was only my system, but 
apparently, others had this same issue with the fp7_archive.zip file.  Maybe a new one was released 
with the same filename on adobe?


Would makesum would blindly use what is in the /usr/ports/distfiles -- corrupt, 
man-in-the-middled, or whatever was there?  I've never used makesum...  I will RTFM.  :)


Rudy

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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-10 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, Rudy wrote:


Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:


rm /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/fp7_archive.zip


An other way to fix it in some ways is to run a make makesum to update
the distfile checksums


The fp7_archive.zip was an odd case were I felt more comfortable deleting it 
-- hadn't see that error before (and didn't save it to cut and paste).  I 
thought it was only my system, but apparently, others had this same issue 
with the fp7_archive.zip file.  Maybe a new one was released with the same 
filename on adobe?


Would makesum would blindly use what is in the /usr/ports/distfiles -- 
corrupt, man-in-the-middled, or whatever was there?


Yes.  Don't use make makesum unless you're porting or at least know the 
distfile is safe.  make distclean and a refetch is the safer way to go, 
or updating the ports tree so the checksum comes from someone who is 
presumably more aware of the correct distfile.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-05 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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Rudy wrote:

 With all this talk about FLASH, I found something out by trial and
 error and want to post again to the list so that others searching
 can get the FLASH player working in their brower:

 THIS STEP IS NEEDED OR FLASH WILL NOT WORK:

 sysctl compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20

I am using 8-current (amd64) and found all I needed to do was install
www/linux-flashplugin7 then do a nspluginwrapper -v -a -i and flash
works fine (as far I can tell)...   does this add any functionality I
am not aware of?  (namely some sites seem to partially load like the
graphs at whos.among.us [the easiest way to test this is go to the
site in my signature then click on the 3rd icon at the bottom and then
click on graphs])

 Better yet, add this to your /etc/sysctl.conf file and reboot:
 compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20

 NOTE: I just picked 2.6.20 kinda at random... seems like that is
 the linux kernel number (which I know nothing about) for the Fedora
 7 release.  Oh, and I installed Fedora 7 instead of the default
 Fedora Core 4 on my desktop.

 Why does the linux emulation pick 2.4.2 as the kernel version
 number to report (by default) and not 2.6.11 (their kernel version
 shipped with Fedora 4)?  Seems like the ports should and linux
 module should be updated...

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HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-05 Thread Rudy


With all this talk about FLASH, I found something out by trial and error and want to post again to 
the list so that others searching can get the FLASH player working in their brower:


THIS STEP IS NEEDED OR FLASH WILL NOT WORK:

sysctl compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20

Better yet, add this to your /etc/sysctl.conf file and reboot:
 compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20

NOTE: I just picked 2.6.20 kinda at random... seems like that is the linux kernel number (which I 
know nothing about) for the Fedora 7 release.  Oh, and I installed Fedora 7 instead of the default 
Fedora Core 4 on my desktop.


Why does the linux emulation pick 2.4.2 as the kernel version number to report (by default) and not 
2.6.11 (their kernel version shipped with Fedora 4)?  Seems like the ports should and linux module 
should be updated...


Rudy
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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-05 Thread Pollywog
On Saturday 05 January 2008 22:06:27 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:


 I am using 8-current (amd64) and found all I needed to do was install
 www/linux-flashplugin7 then do a nspluginwrapper -v -a -i and flash
 works fine (as far I can tell)...   does this add any functionality I
 am not aware of?  (namely some sites seem to partially load like the
 graphs at whos.among.us [the easiest way to test this is go to the
 site in my signature then click on the 3rd icon at the bottom and then
 click on graphs])

Does one download the flashplugin for Linux (version 7) from the Macromedia 
website?  I was unable to install it from within FreeBSD because the 
necessary files are not available.
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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-05 Thread Greg Mars

Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:

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Rudy wrote:
  

With all this talk about FLASH, I found something out by trial and
error and want to post again to the list so that others searching
can get the FLASH player working in their brower:

THIS STEP IS NEEDED OR FLASH WILL NOT WORK:

sysctl compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20



I am using 8-current (amd64) and found all I needed to do was install
www/linux-flashplugin7 then do a nspluginwrapper -v -a -i and flash
works fine (as far I can tell)...   does this add any functionality I
am not aware of?  (namely some sites seem to partially load like the
graphs at whos.among.us [the easiest way to test this is go to the
site in my signature then click on the 3rd icon at the bottom and then
click on graphs])
  

Better yet, add this to your /etc/sysctl.conf file and reboot:
compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20

NOTE: I just picked 2.6.20 kinda at random... seems like that is
the linux kernel number (which I know nothing about) for the Fedora
7 release.  Oh, and I installed Fedora 7 instead of the default
Fedora Core 4 on my desktop.

Why does the linux emulation pick 2.4.2 as the kernel version
number to report (by default) and not 2.6.11 (their kernel version
shipped with Fedora 4)?  Seems like the ports should and linux
module should be updated...

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Thank You!

I tried getting flash to work in FreeBSD so many times and failed.
It wasn't a big deal but it was annoying to have to boot into another 
system if there is content I needed to see that happens to be flash.


I'm running FreeBSD 7 Beta4.

I just did what you said:
cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin7
make config-recursive install clean
nspluginwrapper -v -a -i

After that a flash content was playing in firefox.
Unfortunately my AudigyLS soundcard only works with oss, which is having 
some problems now, so I was not able to verify that sound works well.


By the way, I had some problems installing flash7 from ports a few days ago.
It didn't like the size of the file and would fail even if you 
downloaded from Adobe and copied to ports/disfiles. I later did a 
'portsnap fetch update'  that  must have gotten updated makefiles and 
fixed that problems. Anybody else with that issue should try updating 
the ports collection.

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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-05 Thread Rudy


By the way, I had some problems installing flash7 from ports a few days 
ago.
It didn't like the size of the file and would fail even if you 
downloaded from Adobe and copied to ports/disfiles. I later did a 
'portsnap fetch update'  that  must have gotten updated makefiles and 
fixed that problems. Anybody else with that issue should try updating 
the ports collection.



Super you got it running.  PS, I had to do that as well...

 rm /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/fp7_archive.zip

From full original instructions:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-January/165920.html


Updating your ports (with portsnap or the cvsup) when trying to fix problems is always a good idea. 
 Sometimes when everything seems busted the portupgrade tool can be helpful in rebuilding all your 
ports.  Set it running before you go to bed, and ta-da, in the morning everything is working -- or 
completely broken  :)


Rudy

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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-05 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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Greg Mars wrote:
 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: Rudy wrote:

 With all this talk about FLASH, I found something out by
 trial and error and want to post again to the list so that
 others searching can get the FLASH player working in their
 brower:

 THIS STEP IS NEEDED OR FLASH WILL NOT WORK:

 sysctl compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20


 I am using 8-current (amd64) and found all I needed to do was
 install www/linux-flashplugin7 then do a nspluginwrapper -v -a -i
 and flash works fine (as far I can tell)...   does this add any
 functionality I am not aware of?  (namely some sites seem to
 partially load like the graphs at whos.among.us [the easiest way to
 test this is go to the site in my signature then click on the 3rd
 icon at the bottom and then click on graphs])

 Better yet, add this to your /etc/sysctl.conf file and
 reboot: compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.20

 NOTE: I just picked 2.6.20 kinda at random... seems like that
 is the linux kernel number (which I know nothing about) for
 the Fedora 7 release.  Oh, and I installed Fedora 7 instead
 of the default Fedora Core 4 on my desktop.

 Why does the linux emulation pick 2.4.2 as the kernel version
  number to report (by default) and not 2.6.11 (their kernel
 version shipped with Fedora 4)?  Seems like the ports should
 and linux module should be updated...

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 Thank You!

 I tried getting flash to work in FreeBSD so many times and failed.
 It wasn't a big deal but it was annoying to have to boot into
 another system if there is content I needed to see that happens to
 be flash.

 I'm running FreeBSD 7 Beta4.

 I just did what you said: cd /usr/ports/www/linux-flashplugin7 make
 config-recursive install clean nspluginwrapper -v -a -i

 After that a flash content was playing in firefox. Unfortunately my
 AudigyLS soundcard only works with oss, which is having some
 problems now, so I was not able to verify that sound works well.

I don't use OSS so have no idea on the issue there.

 By the way, I had some problems installing flash7 from ports a few
 days ago. It didn't like the size of the file and would fail even
 if you downloaded from Adobe and copied to ports/disfiles. I later
 did a 'portsnap fetch update'  that  must have gotten updated
 makefiles and fixed that problems. Anybody else with that issue
 should try updating the ports collection.

The problem a few days ago was because the distfiles had been
updated one way to fix this (which is what I did) is do a make
makesum which will recalculate the checksums found in the distinfo file.

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Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working!

2008-01-05 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
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Rudy wrote:

 By the way, I had some problems installing flash7 from ports a
 few days ago. It didn't like the size of the file and would fail
 even if you downloaded from Adobe and copied to ports/disfiles. I
 later did a 'portsnap fetch update'  that  must have gotten
 updated makefiles and fixed that problems. Anybody else with that
 issue should try updating the ports collection.


 Super you got it running.  PS, I had to do that as well...

 rm /usr/ports/distfiles/flashplugin/fp7_archive.zip

 From full original instructions:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2008-January/165920.html




 Updating your ports (with portsnap or the cvsup) when trying to fix
  problems is always a good idea.  Sometimes when everything seems
 busted the portupgrade tool can be helpful in rebuilding all your
 ports.  Set it running before you go to bed, and ta-da, in the
 morning everything is working -- or completely broken  :)

An other way to fix it in some ways is to run a make makesum to update
the distfile checksums

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