Re: FreeBSD-6, kldload: No such file...

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On 11/12/06, Armin Arh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:38:35 -0600 "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> You do not say from what to 6.x.

It was 5.4

> kldconfig(8)
> man 8 kldconfig

got it now,

thx.

Armin


The 5.4 --> 6.x has probably left you with some old libs hanging
around as well, hence your additional problem in the other thread
with opera segfaulting.  Try rereading the end of the /usr/src/UPDATING
file and following that, especially the delete-old-libs bit.

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Re: FreeBSD-6, kldload: No such file...

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On 11/12/06, Armin Arh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

since upgrading to FreeBSD-6 i can't load modules by just typing the name.



You do not say from what to 6.x.


## kldload linux
kldload: can't load linux: No such file or directory
## kldload linux.ko
kldload: can't load linux.ko: No such file or directory
## kldload /boot/kernel/linux.ko
## kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 16 0xc040 77132c   kernel
 31 0xc4193000 1b000kqemu.ko
 41 0xc3db7000 16000linux.ko

did i miss some config?


kldconfig(8)
man 8 kldconfig

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Re: Freebsd 6-Stable lockups

[Kris Kennaway]

On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:02:14PM -, chris scott wrote:
> well theseare the only additional lines ive added to my kernel
> I pretty sure i added crypto support after the problems started
> i have  disabled geli support for encrytped swap partitions as i thought 
> that may bethe cause

> #options WITNESS
> #options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN
> 
>#options DEBUG_LOCKS
> #options DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS
> #options DDB
> #options WITNESS_KDB
> #options KDB

You're clearly aware of these debugging options (also you want options
INVARIANTS and INVARIANT_SUPPORT), so why not use them?  When the
system hangs, follow the directions in the kernel debugging chapter of
the developers handbook.

Kris


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Re: Freebsd 6-Stable lockups

[chris scott]

thecommentsabout old hardware are interesting as all my kit is at least 4 
years old. Its a bit hit and miss though
I have3 systems on 6-stable, only one has the problem. These are the basic 
specs of the systems.


system 1 - one that freezes
this is the current hardware
x2 intel 550 p3
intel  440GX chipset
2 x 512meg ECC pc133 ram, 1 x 128 meg ECC ram
fxp and xl0

old hardware that also freezes was
x2 p3 1 ghz
severworks chipset(asus CUSL2-LS)
2 x 512meg ECC
fxp and xl0


system 2
AMD athlon tbird 700
amd 750 irongate
256 meg  ddr
ep and xl


system 3
2x450 intel p3 slot cpu
intel 440bx
1x 512, 1 x 128
xl, dc, and sis

all machines are using pata drives

looking at the specs, bith the flakey boxes are runniung ecc ram
is anyone having these issues who isnt running ecc ram?

- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Beckers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "chris scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Freebsd 6-Stable lockups



Hi Chris,

I've noticed the same on three of my FreeBSD 6 systems, until now I 
haven't found any clue on this. FreeBSD 5 stable was no problem,  FreeBSD 
6 is quite a mess with no trace at all on what might have  caused the 
machine to freeze. I agree with you that it could very  well be a user 
application problem because my kernel config is quite  trivial, my 
updating routines (cvsup and portupgrade) are trivial and  actually the 
whole configuration of my box isn't exciting. I've  opened a thread at 
bsdforums.org and posted an email on this mailing  list as well.

http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765.
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-October/ 
030225.html
Perhaps, comparing both configurations could identify the bad 
application.


Kind Regards,
Paul M.C. Beckers

On Nov 1, 2006, at 6:09 PM, chris scott wrote:


Hi all,

I have a kind of anoying problem at the moment. A system I run  keeps 
radomly freezing/locking up. This can be anywhere from 2  hours to a week 
after the last reboot/lockup. The only fix its to  power cycleit. It isnt 
kernel panicing, it just locks. Even  accessing  via serial doent work. I 
have  changed all the hardware  so the issue is unlikely to be there. The 
load on the box isnt all  that high and the memory usage looks fine (all 
rrded). The box is  running quite a lot of services (apache, mysql,exim. 
spamassasing,  clamav, courier, openvpn, zebra). Usually all these 
services, apart  from openvpn and zebra,  run in a jail. I dont think 
this is an  issue as the machine still freezes if i run them non jailed. 
Deactivating all these services apart from openvpn and zebra  (needed for 
monitoring), seems to fix the problem from what I can  see so im fairly 
sure the problem lies in these somewhere. However  can anoyone suggest I 
way i can easily pinpoint the problem other  that stepping though each 
app, as this would take an age to perform  and be very tedious.


The system has been  rebuilt from src (make world) several times,  and I 
have dont a portupgrade  -a. All the local installations  were  done from 
ports.


I have tried running a debug kernel, but it didnt seem to yeild  much 
useful info.


Im running 6-stable( last build 4 days ago )
its an SMP kernel on 1 gig intels
with 1.2gig ram
2 x 80 gig ide hd














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Re: Freebsd 6-Stable lockups

[chris scott]

well theseare the only additional lines ive added to my kernel
I pretty sure i added crypto support after the problems started
i have  disabled geli support for encrytped swap partitions as i thought 
that may bethe cause


# To make an SMP kernel, the next line is needed
options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel



options ALTQ
options ALTQ_CBQ# Class Bases Queueing
options ALTQ_RED# Random Early Detection
options ALTQ_RIO# RED In/Out
options ALTQ_HFSC   # Hierarchical Packet Scheduler
options ALTQ_CDNR   # Traffic conditioner
options ALTQ_PRIQ   # Priority Queueing
options ALTQ_NOPCC  # Required for SMP build


# TCP_DROP_SYNFIN adds support for ignoring TCP packets with SYN+FIN. This
options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN #drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN

#options   VESA
#options SC_PIXEL_MODE
maxusers0

#optionsNO_LKM
options CONSPEED=115200

device crypto
options GEOM_ELI
#options WITNESS
#options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN

   #options DEBUG_LOCKS
#options DEBUG_VFS_LOCKS
#options DDB
#options WITNESS_KDB
#options KDB


- Original Message - 
From: "Paul Beckers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "chris scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: Freebsd 6-Stable lockups



Hi Chris,

I've noticed the same on three of my FreeBSD 6 systems, until now I  
haven't found any clue on this. FreeBSD 5 stable was no problem,  
FreeBSD 6 is quite a mess with no trace at all on what might have  
caused the machine to freeze. I agree with you that it could very  
well be a user application problem because my kernel config is quite  
trivial, my updating routines (cvsup and portupgrade) are trivial and  
actually the whole configuration of my box isn't exciting. I've  
opened a thread at bsdforums.org and posted an email on this mailing  
list as well.

http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765.
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-October/ 
030225.html
Perhaps, comparing both configurations could identify the bad  
application.


Kind Regards,
Paul M.C. Beckers

On Nov 1, 2006, at 6:09 PM, chris scott wrote:


Hi all,

I have a kind of anoying problem at the moment. A system I run  
keeps radomly freezing/locking up. This can be anywhere from 2  
hours to a week after the last reboot/lockup. The only fix its to  
power cycleit. It isnt kernel panicing, it just locks. Even  
accessing  via serial doent work. I have  changed all the hardware  
so the issue is unlikely to be there. The load on the box isnt all  
that high and the memory usage looks fine (all rrded). The box is  
running quite a lot of services (apache, mysql,exim. spamassasing,  
clamav, courier, openvpn, zebra). Usually all these services, apart  
from openvpn and zebra,  run in a jail. I dont think this is an  
issue as the machine still freezes if i run them non jailed.  
Deactivating all these services apart from openvpn and zebra  
(needed for monitoring), seems to fix the problem from what I can  
see so im fairly sure the problem lies in these somewhere. However  
can anoyone suggest I way i can easily pinpoint the problem other  
that stepping though each app, as this would take an age to perform  
and be very tedious.


The system has been  rebuilt from src (make world) several times,  
and I have dont a portupgrade  -a. All the local installations  
were  done from ports.


I have tried running a debug kernel, but it didnt seem to yeild  
much useful info.


Im running 6-stable( last build 4 days ago )
its an SMP kernel on 1 gig intels
with 1.2gig ram
2 x 80 gig ide hd














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Re: Freebsd 6-Stable lockups

[Paul Beckers]

Hi Chris,

I've noticed the same on three of my FreeBSD 6 systems, until now I  
haven't found any clue on this. FreeBSD 5 stable was no problem,  
FreeBSD 6 is quite a mess with no trace at all on what might have  
caused the machine to freeze. I agree with you that it could very  
well be a user application problem because my kernel config is quite  
trivial, my updating routines (cvsup and portupgrade) are trivial and  
actually the whole configuration of my box isn't exciting. I've  
opened a thread at bsdforums.org and posted an email on this mailing  
list as well.

http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765.
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-October/ 
030225.html
Perhaps, comparing both configurations could identify the bad  
application.


Kind Regards,
Paul M.C. Beckers

On Nov 1, 2006, at 6:09 PM, chris scott wrote:


Hi all,

I have a kind of anoying problem at the moment. A system I run  
keeps radomly freezing/locking up. This can be anywhere from 2  
hours to a week after the last reboot/lockup. The only fix its to  
power cycleit. It isnt kernel panicing, it just locks. Even  
accessing  via serial doent work. I have  changed all the hardware  
so the issue is unlikely to be there. The load on the box isnt all  
that high and the memory usage looks fine (all rrded). The box is  
running quite a lot of services (apache, mysql,exim. spamassasing,  
clamav, courier, openvpn, zebra). Usually all these services, apart  
from openvpn and zebra,  run in a jail. I dont think this is an  
issue as the machine still freezes if i run them non jailed.  
Deactivating all these services apart from openvpn and zebra  
(needed for monitoring), seems to fix the problem from what I can  
see so im fairly sure the problem lies in these somewhere. However  
can anoyone suggest I way i can easily pinpoint the problem other  
that stepping though each app, as this would take an age to perform  
and be very tedious.


The system has been  rebuilt from src (make world) several times,  
and I have dont a portupgrade  -a. All the local installations  
were  done from ports.


I have tried running a debug kernel, but it didnt seem to yeild  
much useful info.


Im running 6-stable( last build 4 days ago )
its an SMP kernel on 1 gig intels
with 1.2gig ram
2 x 80 gig ide hd














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Re: FreeBSD 6.x and disklabel

[Eric Schuele]

On 10/30/06 12:05, Reuben A. Popp wrote:

Good morning everyone,

Recently, we've been looking at purchasing a SAN here and I came across this 
site while doing some research.  Seeing as how we just met with reps from 
Apple to discuss their offerings, I thought that the article was well worth 
reading ;)


http://www.mostlygeek.com/node/39

Anyway,  I realize that the article deals with the 5.x branch, so it may not 
be 100% exact when it comes to our implementation (6.x).  The article makes 
note that as of 5.x, there were many parts that were still 32 bit, which in 
turn affected the maximum filesystem size (~2TB).




If you haven't already gotten an answer

The following may help:
  http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/index.html

Not that we would need a filesystem larger than that, but does anyone know if 
this is still an issue, or was it changed in 6.x, or if there are plans to 
rework it in -CURRENT?


TIA :)
Reuben A. Popp




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Re: FreeBSD 6 freeze

[Frank Shute]

On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 10:26:47PM +0100, Paul Beckers wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I've recently tried to install FreeBSD 6.1 with a custom kernel that
> comprises support for PF and ALTQ, but is basicly a copy of the GENERIC
> kernel shipped with the install CD. I also ran CVSup to get the newest
> release of the source that stated after compilation that it would like to be
> called 6.2 prerelease. After heading to user applications like apache,
> mysql, isc-dhcpd, samba and postfix, I noticed when I came back my
> screensaver had stalled and the pc wouldn't respond to any inputs anymore.
> It was a complete lockup and before this install with FreeBSD 4 and FreeBSD
> 5 I never had this problem on this box.
> 
> In the mean while I've tried my install with two other boxes and both of
> them ended up having the same failure. I've posted a thread on bsdforums
> regarding this matter with my kernel config and some of my logfiles
> attached, to be found here:
> http://www.freebsdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38765.
> 
> As I haven't got any clue on where and what to look for, it would be
> helpfull to get suggestions on how to troubleshoot this issue.
> 

Hi Paul,

I'm not a kernel hacker or anything like it but some of the guys on
freebsd-stable might be able to help you with your problem. Hence,
I've cc'd this reply to there.

It's probably a more appropriate forum than questions for your
problem. Or rather one where you more likely to get an answer.

You're running stable if it says 6.2 prerelease.

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RE: FreeBSD 6-STABLE as guest in VMWare Player on Winxp host

[Bouman, N.J. \(Niek, Student EE,EL\)]

> I'm running FreeBSD 6-STABLE as guest in the free VMWare Player on a 
> WinXP host.
> How can I switch between virtual terminals? Ctrl-Alt-F[n] doesn't work...
> 
> By the way, is this the right mailing list to place this question?

I have found it somewhere with google.
One has to press Ctrl-Alt-Space and subsequently (while still holding Ctrl and 
Alt) the desired F-key.

Thanks for the reactions,
Niek

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Re: FreeBSD 6-STABLE as guest in VMWare Player on Winxp host

[Micah]

Niek Bouman wrote:
I'm running FreeBSD 6-STABLE as guest in the free VMWare Player on a 
WinXP host.

How can I switch between virtual terminals? Ctrl-Alt-F[n] doesn't work...

By the way, is this the right mailing list to place this question?


Thank you,
Niek Bouman


As long as you're not in an X11 session, plain old Alt+Fn works to 
switch terminals. If you are in X11, I think there's a way to change the 
key combination to something else. Check with Google.


HTH,
Micah
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Re: FreeBSD 6-STABLE as guest in VMWare Player on Winxp host

[Bill Moran]

In response to Niek Bouman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I'm running FreeBSD 6-STABLE as guest in the free VMWare Player on a 
> WinXP host.
> How can I switch between virtual terminals? Ctrl-Alt-F[n] doesn't work...
> 
> By the way, is this the right mailing list to place this question?

This is more of a VMWare question than a FreeBSD question.

But I suspect you'll have to reconfigure VMWare not to intercept CTRL+ALT.
I seem to remember a configuration option for this somewhere.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.X and postfix/postmap - corrupt maps

[Alex Zbyslaw]

Darek M wrote:

I am unable to use the 'postmap' program under 6.0- or 6.1-RELEASE.  
Instead of building a valid hash map, it puts in various data from 
what appears to be my /etc/master.passwd file, complete with crypted 
password.  I believe that this is some type of a library issue.


I'm doing this with postfix-2.3.2 downloaded right off the website, 
but the same happened with earlier releases, as well as an install 
from the ports.


As an example, I use the file 'transport' which contains
# cat /etc/postfix/transport
*   smtp:[192.168.0.1]:25

The syntax is correct as I use it on 5.4 and 5.5 boxes (I've had to 
downgrade to that to be able to use postfix).


# uname -a
FreeBSD some.host.name 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Fri Jul 14 
13:43:37 EDT 2006 darek@:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/SOME_KERNEL  i386


# /usr/sbin/postmap transport

On a system where postmap works fine, this is what I get:

# strings /etc/postfix/transport
* smtp:[192.168.22.29]:25

Please scroll down to APPENDIX_1 to see the 'strings' output on a 6.1 
box.  I tried this on 6.0 and 6.1 installed on a number of different 
machines, all with the same result, so I don't think that this is a 
memory or hardware issue.  I also tried this on 6.x, 4.10, 4.11, 5.4 
and 5.5 on the same system, and only the 6.x installs failed in this way.


Also, scroll down to APPENDIX_2 for an strace of the postmap 
execution.  You will note that the open, read, and write calls often 
have weird info in them (I believe the filename part), with parts of 
strings, and random characters, like 'open("ÿ'



I got a couple USB-only Dell towers for my SMTP boxes, and FreeBSD 
below 6 doesn't recognize the keyboard during install.  So I'm forced 
to use 6.x with these.  Unless someone knows how to use a USB keyboard 
in 5.5 installs...


I have no 6.X boxes so can't help directly, though I find it hard to 
believe that postfix+6.X fails for everyone so strongly suspect 
something local to the way you have installed, though have no clue what.


Some help debugging, though: you sent the output of strace on 6.1 with 
the wacky file opens.  Try the same strace on 5.X and then diff the two 
to see what ought to have been happening - that may give some clue as to 
what is actually going wrong.


As for USB keyboards + 5.5 - on 5.4 there was an install boot option 
"boot with USB keyboard" or somesuch.  Don't know if that's still there 
with 5.5, but it sounds like you have a 5.4 CD so you could try that.  
The problem *may* be that 5.X doesn't support your USB chipset, of 
course - no idea how likely that is.  Also search the BIOS for any USB 
related options and try fiddling with them!  You don't mention the model 
of Dell, but you could try a google for the model + freebsd.


Searching the mailing list archives (or just plain google) for USB 
keyboard should turn up some stuff as well - possibly far too much!


Final thought - what about postfix-21?  Does it do everything you need?  
Does it have the same problem?


hth,

--Alex



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Re: FreeBSD 6 Hard Lock no logs

[Rob Connon (Info)]

Lowell Gilbert wrote:


Don't top-post, please.


 

LOL sorry, it came from my cell phone, i updated to 6.1 - Release, 
hopefully i'll have better luck, i'll keep you posted.


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Re: FreeBSD 6 Hard Lock no logs

[Lowell Gilbert]

Don't top-post, please.

"Rob Connon (Info)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The system completly locks up, attached keyboard is useless.. and as
> mentioned no errors.. the only pattern is tuesday/wednesday it
> freezes.. other days of the week it's fine under heavy load..
> buildworlds are not a problem..

So you tried a debugging kernel and couldn't break to the debugger?
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Re: FreeBSD 6 Hard Lock no logs

[Rob Connon (Info)]

HI,

The system completly locks up, attached keyboard is useless.. and as 
mentioned no errors.. the only pattern is tuesday/wednesday it freezes.. 
other days of the week it's fine under heavy load..

buildworlds are not a problem..

Rob.

Lowell Gilbert wrote:


"Rob Connon (Info)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 


Hi,

I have a web/mail server thats running the lastest version of FreeBSD
6.0-RELEASE-p9 #4. In the last month or so it's started hard locking..
when the machine locks up i can still ping it and get connects from
telneting to 80,22,etc sometimes i get a banner and sometimes i
dont.. but there are
no errors on the console or in the logs.

The odd thing is the locking seems to happen within a certain time
window (mon,tues) and never end of the week or weekend.. i suspected
it could have been
a bad cron job but nothing falls into that time frame.

As a test i've been rebooting the server everynight to see if that
would help the machine get past the begining of the week with out a
hang and again this morning
even though i rebooted last night at 10pm hung around 9:47am.

The machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2550, I've had dell come and replace
the MB and have ran all their diagnostics aswell with no errors
reported..
I've been reading alot about APIC and ACPI and people having similar
issues but nothing that fits the bill... below is the dmesg and output
of vmstat -i.. another odd thing is the rate for the CPU timer is
extremely high compared to other machines with similar hardware or
faster hardware.

Any help on where to look next would be awesome.
   



Try a debugging kernel and see if you can break to the debugger after
the freeze.  If so, youcan look at task states.
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Re: FreeBSD 6 Hard Lock no logs

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Rob Connon (Info)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I have a web/mail server thats running the lastest version of FreeBSD
> 6.0-RELEASE-p9 #4. In the last month or so it's started hard locking..
> when the machine locks up i can still ping it and get connects from
> telneting to 80,22,etc sometimes i get a banner and sometimes i
> dont.. but there are
> no errors on the console or in the logs.
>
> The odd thing is the locking seems to happen within a certain time
> window (mon,tues) and never end of the week or weekend.. i suspected
> it could have been
> a bad cron job but nothing falls into that time frame.
>
> As a test i've been rebooting the server everynight to see if that
> would help the machine get past the begining of the week with out a
> hang and again this morning
> even though i rebooted last night at 10pm hung around 9:47am.
>
> The machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2550, I've had dell come and replace
> the MB and have ran all their diagnostics aswell with no errors
> reported..
> I've been reading alot about APIC and ACPI and people having similar
> issues but nothing that fits the bill... below is the dmesg and output
> of vmstat -i.. another odd thing is the rate for the CPU timer is
> extremely high compared to other machines with similar hardware or
> faster hardware.
>
> Any help on where to look next would be awesome.

Try a debugging kernel and see if you can break to the debugger after
the freeze.  If so, youcan look at task states.
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Re: FreeBSD 6 Hard Lock no logs

[Derek Ragona]

First look for the obvious problems like low disk or swap space.  If these 
are OK, you might need to run a script that logs various things and sift 
through it.  I would suggest writing a shell script that sleeps for say 30 
to 60 seconds, then opens a log file and does

ps -ax
and some other echo to give separation and see what is running, then closes 
the file and sleeps again.


Obviously you will only be interested in the last couple of entries in this 
file.


-Derek

At 01:19 PM 7/25/2006, Rob Connon (Info) wrote:

Hi,

I have a web/mail server thats running the lastest version of FreeBSD 
6.0-RELEASE-p9 #4. In the last month or so it's started hard locking..
when the machine locks up i can still ping it and get connects from 
telneting to 80,22,etc sometimes i get a banner and sometimes i dont.. but 
there are

no errors on the console or in the logs.

The odd thing is the locking seems to happen within a certain time window 
(mon,tues) and never end of the week or weekend.. i suspected it could 
have been

a bad cron job but nothing falls into that time frame.

As a test i've been rebooting the server everynight to see if that would 
help the machine get past the begining of the week with out a hang and 
again this morning

even though i rebooted last night at 10pm hung around 9:47am.

The machine is a Dell PowerEdge 2550, I've had dell come and replace the 
MB and have ran all their diagnostics aswell with no errors reported..
I've been reading alot about APIC and ACPI and people having similar 
issues but nothing that fits the bill... below is the dmesg and output of 
vmstat -i.. another odd thing is the rate for the CPU timer is extremely 
high compared to other machines with similar hardware or faster hardware.


Any help on where to look next would be awesome.

interrupt  total   rate
irq1: atkbd0 107  0
irq6: fdc010  0
irq13: npx01  0
irq14: ata0   74  0
irq16: fxp027110 12
irq20: amr0   105950 48
cpu0: timer  4385477   1999
cpu1: timer  4369967   1992
Total696   4053


Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p9 #4: Thu Jun 22 14:54:15 PDT 2006
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/SMP
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family  1266MHz (1258.22-MHz 
686-class CPU)

 Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6b1  Stepping = 1

Features=0x383fbff
real memory  = 1073676288 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1041612800 (993 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: 
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  1
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  0
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 3
MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI
ioapic0  irqs 0-15 on motherboard
ioapic1  irqs 16-31 on motherboard
npx0: [FAST]
npx0:  on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0:  on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
pci_link0:  irq 5 on acpi0
pci_link1:  irq 10 on acpi0
pci_link2:  on acpi0
pci_link3:  on acpi0
pci_link4:  irq 5 on acpi0
pci_link5:  irq 10 on acpi0
pci_link6:  on acpi0
pci_link7:  on acpi0
pci_link8:  on acpi0
pci_link9:  on acpi0
pci_link10:  on acpi0
pci_link11:  on acpi0
pci_link12:  on acpi0
pci_link13:  on acpi0
pci_link14:  on acpi0
pci_link15:  irq 10 on acpi0
pci_link16:  irq 11 on acpi0
Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
cpu0:  on acpi0
cpu1:  on acpi0
pcib0:  on acpi0
pci0:  on pcib0
pcib1:  at device 2.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
pcib2:  at device 0.0 on pci1
pci2:  on pcib2
amr0:  mem 0xf000-0xf7ff irq 20 at device 
0.0 on pci2

amr0:  Firmware 197O, BIOS 3.35, 128MB RAM
pci1:  at device 1.0 (no driver attached)
pci0:  at device 14.0 (no driver attached)
isab0:  port 0x8a0-0x8af at device 15.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x8b0-0x8bf at device 15.1 on pci0

ata0:  on atapci0
ata1:  on atapci0
ohci0:  mem 0xfe40-0xfe400fff irq 11 at 
device 15.2 on pci0

ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0:  on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pcib3:  on acpi0
pci3:  on pcib3
bge0:  mem 
0xfeb0-0xfeb0 irq 17 at device 8.0 on pci3

miibus0:  on bge0
brgphy0:  on miibus0
brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX, 
1000baseTX-FDX, auto

bge0: Ethernet address: 00:06:5b:f5:87:93
pcib4:  on acpi0
pci4:  on pcib4
pcib5:  at device 2.0 on

Re: FreeBSD 6 Jails - REJ apache processes? [was: Apache 2 in 6.0 jails: Connection refused: connect to listener on 0.0.0.0:80]

[Anish Mistry]

On Tuesday 18 July 2006 12:19, Philippe Lang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry to insist, really, but this bug is really annoying: today,
> two more apache servers have frozen while being scanner by a
> crawler:
>
> [Sat Jul 15 14:25:40 2006] [error] [client 66.147.238.238] File
> does not exist: /home/abc.ch/www/data/blogs [Sat Jul 15 14:25:40
> 2006] [error] [client 66.147.238.238] File does not exist:
> /home/abc.ch/www/data/blog [Sat Jul 15 14:25:41 2006] [error]
> [client 66.147.238.238] File does not exist:
> /home/abc.ch/www/data/blogtest [Sat Jul 15 14:25:41 2006] [error]
> [client 66.147.238.238] File does not exist:
> /home/abc.ch/www/data/b2 [Sat Jul 15 14:25:42 2006] [warn]
> (61)Connection refused: connect to listener on 0.0.0.0:80 [Sat Jul
> 15 14:25:43 2006] [warn] (61)Connection refused: connect to
> listener on 0.0.0.0:80 [Sat Jul 15 14:25:44 2006] [warn]
> (61)Connection refused: connect to listener on 0.0.0.0:80 [Sat Jul
> 15 14:25:45 2006] [warn] (61)Connection refused: connect to
> listener on 0.0.0.0:80
In the apache config specifying the jail IP in the Listen directive 
fixes it for me.
Listen 192.168.1.101:80

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Re: FreeBSD 6-STABLE: Apache 2.2 and php 4.4 segmentation fault

[Riemer Palstra]

On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 08:02:12PM -0400, RJ wrote:
>   When I have setup a server I use php4-4.4.2_1,
>   mysql-server-4.1.18_2, php4-extensions-1.0 and apache.

And when you tell the php4-extensions configuration screen that you want
MySQL support, by checking the knob, it installs php4-mysql.

>   I think php4-4.4.2_1 and  php4-mysql-4.4.2_1 will cause a conflict.

I hope not. That would defeat the purpose of being able to install PHP
modules.

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Re: FreeBSD 6-STABLE: Apache 2.2 and php 4.4 segmentation fault

[Riemer Palstra]

On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 03:56:27PM -0700, Andrew Reitz wrote:
> Can anyone supply any hints as to how I can get more debugging
> information (I don't see any core files anywhere), and/or how I can
> fix this problem?

In /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini, try enabling/disabling modules,
whilst reloading the pages causing the segfault. If you find the
offender, try cleaning/recompiling it.

(This kind of fiddling around actually helped me out when even
phpinfo.php wouldn't completely load for me, until I disabled the
imagick module which was misbehaving around that time).

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Re: FreeBSD 6-STABLE: Apache 2.2 and php 4.4 segmentation fault

[Andrew Reitz]

On Apr 2, 2006, at 5:02 PM, RJ wrote:


 Something doesn't seem right with those ports.
  When I have setup a server I use php4-4.4.2_1,  mysql- 
server-4.1.18_2,

php4-extensions-1.0 and apache.

  I think php4-4.4.2_1 and  php4-mysql-4.4.2_1 will cause a conflict.

 Some correct me if I'm wrong on this.


Ni RJ,

I certainly hope that these two ports aren't in conflict -- because  
they are listed together as dependencies on 56 ports (according to my  
'/usr/ports/INDEX-6' file). It looks like I got the php4-mysql  
package when I installed phpMyAdmin (which is how I noticed that PHP  
wasn't working, btw). Here is the relevant line from my INDEX-6 file:


nr:/usr/ports$ grep ^phpMyAdmin INDEX-6
phpMyAdmin-2.7.0.2|/usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin|/usr/local|A set  
of PHP-scripts to manage MySQL over the web|/usr/ports/databases/ 
phpmyadmin/pkg-descr|[EMAIL PROTECTED]|databases www|| 
apache-1.3.34_4 expat-2.0.0_1 fontconfig-2.3.2_3,1 freetype2-2.1.10_3  
jpeg-6b_4 ldconfig_compat-1.0_6 libdrm-2.0_1 libltdl-1.5.22  
libmcrypt-2.5.7_2 mysql-client-4.1.18_1 pdflib-6.0.3 pecl- 
pdflib-2.0.4 perl-5.8.8 php4-4.4.2_1 php4-bz2-4.4.2_1 php4-gd-4.4.2_1  
php4-mbstring-4.4.2_1 php4-mcrypt-4.4.2_1 php4-mysql-4.4.2_1 php4- 
openssl-4.4.2_1 php4-pcre-4.4.2_1 php4-session-4.4.2_1 php4- 
zlib-4.4.2_1 pkgconfig-0.20 png-1.2.8_3 t1lib-5.1.0_1,1 xorg- 
libraries-6.9.0|http://www.phpmyadmin.net/|||


I would tend to trust the dependency list contained in the port, but  
I'm willing to try uninstalling the php4-mysql package if you think  
it will help.


Thanks,
-Andy.
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Re: FreeBSD 6-STABLE: Apache 2.2 and php 4.4 segmentation fault

[RJ]

 Something doesn't seem right with those ports.
  When I have setup a server I use php4-4.4.2_1,  mysql-server-4.1.18_2,
php4-extensions-1.0 and apache.

  I think php4-4.4.2_1 and  php4-mysql-4.4.2_1 will cause a conflict.

 Some correct me if I'm wrong on this.


- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Reitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 6:56 PM
Subject: FreeBSD 6-STABLE: Apache 2.2 and php 4.4 segmentation fault


> Hello,
>
> I am a long time FreeBSD user of FreeBSD 4.x and Apache 1.3.x. I have
> decided to "get with the times", and upgrade to FreeBSD 6 and
> Apache2. So far, my experience with FreeBSD 6 has been great, but I
> appear to have bumped into a problem with running Apache 2 and php4
> together. By itself, Apache is working fine spitting out static
> pages. However, whenever I try to load a page that needs to go
> through the PHP interpreter, I get a segmentation fault:
>
> nr:/usr/local/etc# tail /var/log/httpd-error.log
> [Sun Apr 02 15:54:47 2006] [notice] Graceful restart requested, doing
> restart
> [Sun Apr 02 15:54:48 2006] [warn] (22)Invalid argument: Failed to
> enable the 'httpready' Accept Filter
> [Sun Apr 02 15:54:49 2006] [notice] Digest: generating secret for
> digest authentication ...
> [Sun Apr 02 15:54:49 2006] [notice] Digest: done
> [Sun Apr 02 15:54:50 2006] [notice] Apache/2.2.0 (FreeBSD) mod_ssl/
> 2.2.0 OpenSSL/0.9.7e-p1 DAV/2 configured -- resuming normal operations
> [Sun Apr 02 15:54:51 2006] [notice] child pid 46107 exit signal
> Segmentation fault (11)
> [Sun Apr 02 15:54:55 2006] [notice] child pid 46108 exit signal
> Segmentation fault (11)
> [Sun Apr 02 15:54:59 2006] [notice] child pid 46109 exit signal
> Segmentation fault (11)
> [Sun Apr 02 15:57:38 2006] [notice] child pid 46110 exit signal
> Segmentation fault (11)
> [Sun Apr 02 15:58:15 2006] [notice] child pid 46111 exit signal
> Segmentation fault (11)
>
> And here is some information about my system:
>
> nr:/usr/local/etc# uname -a
> FreeBSD nr.tool.no 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #2: Mon Mar
> 13 01:11:05 PST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/
> PARAMORE  i386
> nr:/usr/local/etc# pkg_info |grep -i apache
> apache-2.2.0_7  Version 2.2 of Apache web server with prefork MPM.
> php4-4.4.2_1PHP Scripting Language (Apache Module and CLI)
> nr:/usr/local/etc# pkg_info |grep -i php
> gallery-1.5.2.2 A slick web based photo album written using PHP
> libmcrypt-2.5.7_2   Multi-cipher cryptographic library (used in PHP)
> php4-4.4.2_1PHP Scripting Language (Apache Module and CLI)
> php4-bz2-4.4.2_1The bz2 shared extension for php
> php4-gd-4.4.2_1 The gd shared extension for php
> php4-gettext-4.4.2_1 The gettext shared extension for php
> php4-mbstring-4.4.2_1 The mbstring shared extension for php
> php4-mcrypt-4.4.2_1 The mcrypt shared extension for php
> php4-mysql-4.4.2_1  The mysql shared extension for php
> php4-openssl-4.4.2_1 The openssl shared extension for php
> php4-pcre-4.4.2_1   The pcre shared extension for php
> php4-session-4.4.2_1 The session shared extension for php
> php4-zlib-4.4.2_1   The zlib shared extension for php
> phpMyAdmin-2.7.0.2  A set of PHP-scripts to manage MySQL over the web
>
> I have done some Googling, and it seems like there are problems when
> Apache is compiled with threads, but I haven't found anything that I
> consider to be definitive. And of course, while I installed
> everything from ports, I don't remember which knobs I twisted when
> installing. :)
>
> Can anyone supply any hints as to how I can get more debugging
> information (I don't see any core files anywhere), and/or how I can
> fix this problem?
>
> Thanks much in advance,
> -Andy Reitz
>
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Re: FreeBSD 6.X Updating Source

[chris]

The difference between RELENG_6 and RELENG_6_[0-1] is one is a development
branch which releases are based off and RELENG_6_0 is the stable version
of the released code which only gets security fixes commited to it. As
bother are considred stable code compared to current STABLE sometimes
breaks due to new features so i recomend you cvsup RELENG_6_0 then when
6.1-REL comes out cvsup RELENG_6_1

Regards,
Chris
> On 2/22/06, Cody Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> . . . running FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0.
>> . . . RELENG_6 tag,
>> Is a prerelease considered stable, or am I doing something wrong?
>
> Naming conventions.  Nothing else.  For the brief life
> of a -PRERELEASE, that's what -STABLE is.  There's
> also a tendancy to not commit major changes during
> this period.
>
>> . . .Please do not copy it for
>> any purpose, or disclose its contents to any other person.
>
> Sorry about that.  I'll try to avoid being legally bound by
> agreements I didn't sign in the future.
>
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Re: FreeBSD 6.X Updating Source

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On 2/22/06, Cody Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> . . . running FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0.
> . . . RELENG_6 tag,
> Is a prerelease considered stable, or am I doing something wrong?

Naming conventions.  Nothing else.  For the brief life
of a -PRERELEASE, that's what -STABLE is.  There's
also a tendancy to not commit major changes during
this period.

> . . .Please do not copy it for
> any purpose, or disclose its contents to any other person.

Sorry about that.  I'll try to avoid being legally bound by
agreements I didn't sign in the future.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.X Updating Source

[Erik Trulsson]

On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 03:15:11PM -0600, Cody Holland wrote:
> I just installed a server with FreeBSD 6.0.  Everything went perfect.
> Got it up and running and wanted to download the newest source prior to
> installing a lot of ports and software.  Used cvsup with stable-supfile.
> Went throught the normal update procedure and when it was done it says
> that I am running FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0.  I'm using the RELENG_6
> tag, and it was to my understanding that this only followed 6-stable.
> Is a prerelease considered stable, or am I doing something wrong?
> 

Read the FAQ:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/admin.html#RELEASE-CANDIDATE


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Re: FreeBSD-6 + Jail + MultipleIP

[Valerio daelli]

I think somebody already spoke about that in this mailing list,
anyway take a look at

http://garage.freebsd.pl/

Bye

Valerio Daelli

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> Anyone have a patch or know if and when it will be implemented into the base
> jail system?
>
> thanks
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Re: FreeBSD 6 on DVD

[Robert Slade]

On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 14:10, Chris wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Duane Whitty wrote:
> 
> > Chris wrote:
> >> Anyone have a mirror that supports at least a torrent for 6.0 on DVD?
> >> I hate the ISO's with all that damned swithing of the CD's.
> >> 
> >> Better yet, doe anyone know the layout used to create the DVD?
> >> 
> >> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I haven't yet tried this myself but nevertheless thought you might find it 
> > interesting.  The following article(s) seem to detail how one would go 
> > about 
> > laying out an installation disk set.
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-build.html
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng-packages/article.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It's probably not as straight forward as it sounds but I'm going to give a 
> > try for making a dvd for an x86 system.  I'll post to the list re this 
> > subject heading with my progress.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > --Duane Whitty
> 
> Thank you for the links however, this isn't what I asked. Allow me to re 
> articulate:
> 
> 1. I would like a link to either where there may be a full blown DVD image 
> of 6.0 or a torrent.
> 
> 2. If not the above, the layout used to create the DVD image.
> 
> Now allow me to explain 1 and 2 so there isn't anymore wild answers to 
> questions users seem to think they read.
> 
> Reason 1:
> If installing more then just the base OS (allow me to say that one key 
> word, INSTALL) then swapping out the CD's is not something I'm willing to 
> spend 3 hours doing (perhaps that was an embellishment after the fact).
> 
> Reason 2:
> If there isn't a DVD image to download (either in whole or torrent) then 
> the layout would allow me to create my own INSTALL DVD with my curent 6.0 
> roms.
> 
> There - now that I have taken the time to eplain this, I hope there isn't 
> anymore confusion as to what I'm asking.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Chris
> 

Chris,

You do seem to be missing the point. The info you are asking for is on
the Freebsd site. See http://www.freebsd.org/where.html

FreeBsd does not have a DVD version for download. It is only available
as iso's on the site and you can down load these by torrent if you want
to.

If you want to do something else then read the documentation and work it
out - that is primarily how the system works. 

You can get FreeBsd on DVD is you want to buy it - see the
http://www.freebsd.org/where.html for info on the FreeBsd mall at cost
or you can find suppliers at cost through say ebay.

One other thought if you don't want to spend time swapping the CDs try
an FTP install.

Rob   

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Re: FreeBSD 6 on DVD

[Chris]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Duane Whitty wrote:


Chris wrote:

Anyone have a mirror that supports at least a torrent for 6.0 on DVD?
I hate the ISO's with all that damned swithing of the CD's.

Better yet, doe anyone know the layout used to create the DVD?



Hi,

I haven't yet tried this myself but nevertheless thought you might find it 
interesting.  The following article(s) seem to detail how one would go about 
laying out an installation disk set.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-build.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng-packages/article.html




It's probably not as straight forward as it sounds but I'm going to give a 
try for making a dvd for an x86 system.  I'll post to the list re this 
subject heading with my progress.


Hope this helps,

--Duane Whitty


Thank you for the links however, this isn't what I asked. Allow me to re 
articulate:


1. I would like a link to either where there may be a full blown DVD image 
of 6.0 or a torrent.


2. If not the above, the layout used to create the DVD image.

Now allow me to explain 1 and 2 so there isn't anymore wild answers to 
questions users seem to think they read.


Reason 1:
If installing more then just the base OS (allow me to say that one key 
word, INSTALL) then swapping out the CD's is not something I'm willing to 
spend 3 hours doing (perhaps that was an embellishment after the fact).


Reason 2:
If there isn't a DVD image to download (either in whole or torrent) then 
the layout would allow me to create my own INSTALL DVD with my curent 6.0 
roms.


There - now that I have taken the time to eplain this, I hope there isn't 
anymore confusion as to what I'm asking.



Best regards,
Chris

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Re: FreeBSD 6 on DVD

[Duane Whitty]

Chris wrote:

Anyone have a mirror that supports at least a torrent for 6.0 on DVD?
I hate the ISO's with all that damned swithing of the CD's.

Better yet, doe anyone know the layout used to create the DVD?



Hi,

I haven't yet tried this myself but nevertheless 
thought you might find it interesting.  The 
following article(s) seem to detail how one would 
go about laying out an installation disk set.


http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-build.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng-packages/article.html




It's probably not as straight forward as it sounds 
but I'm going to give a try for making a dvd for 
an x86 system.  I'll post to the list re this 
subject heading with my progress.


Hope this helps,

--Duane Whitty
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Re: FreeBSD 6 on DVD

[Björn König]

Chris schrieb:

It's obvious that you have not installed at least 6.0 - and if you have, 
you have not installed more then just the base.


I suggest to install not more than just the base at first and install 
packages later. Then you need to switch the CD once only.


Björn
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Re: FreeBSD 6 on DVD

[Chris]

Foo Ji-Haw wrote:

FreeBSD is only 2-disc. I don't see why it's so painful to switch only twice
in a single installation.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "FreeBSD - Questions" 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: FreeBSD 6 on DVD



Anyone have a mirror that supports at least a torrent for 6.0 on DVD?
I hate the ISO's with all that damned swithing of the CD's.

Better yet, doe anyone know the layout used to create the DVD?


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the answer.


It's obvious that you have not installed at least 6.0 - and if you have, 
you have not installed more then just the base.

Please refrain from spewing out something that you have not done.

Heh - swapping the CD only twice. Really now.

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Re: FreeBSD 6 on DVD

[Micah]

Foo Ji-Haw wrote:

FreeBSD is only 2-disc. I don't see why it's so painful to switch only twice
in a single installation.

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To: "FreeBSD - Questions" 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: FreeBSD 6 on DVD



Anyone have a mirror that supports at least a torrent for 6.0 on DVD?
I hate the ISO's with all that damned swithing of the CD's.

Better yet, doe anyone know the layout used to create the DVD?


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Never create a problem for which you do not have
the answer.


Actually, if you try to install some of the included packages you end up 
swapping the disks quite frequently.  It's quite annoying especially if 
you decided to install packages because you are in a hurry.


Later,
Micah
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Re: FreeBSD 6 on DVD

[Foo Ji-Haw]

FreeBSD is only 2-disc. I don't see why it's so painful to switch only twice
in a single installation.

- Original Message - 
From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "FreeBSD - Questions" 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: FreeBSD 6 on DVD


> Anyone have a mirror that supports at least a torrent for 6.0 on DVD?
> I hate the ISO's with all that damned swithing of the CD's.
>
> Better yet, doe anyone know the layout used to create the DVD?
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Chris
>
> Never create a problem for which you do not have
> the answer.
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Re: freebsd 6 - amount of total visible memory is decreasing constantly

[Chuck Swiger]

Ilya E Veretenkin wrote:

Problem: Total amount of visible memory is decreasing constantly

[ ... ]

As you can see, memory which was visible using top utility decreased
from 3224 to 3195 Megabytes in less than 2 hours. And this process
will continue to the point, where swapping begins.
Server during this monitoring was running MySql4 + Apache1.3 under heavy
load.

How to get rid of such memory loss? And what is the reason of such
memory loss?


Pay attention to "sysctl kern.malloc" or "sysctl vm.zone" periodicly, and see 
whether some part of the kernel is leaking memory.


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Re: Re- FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[FlashWebHost.com]

Thanks Abhi for the link. I am downloading boot only ISO. I will try this
and see if i can get FreeBSD installed.

Regards,

Yujin


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Re: FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> On 1/3/06, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just a question here -- What do you mean until it goes stable?
> > FreeBSD 6.0 is already at RELEASE which is beyond stable.
> > So you have the terminology mangled or just the typing?
> 
> You're right: per the FreeBSD world, I've botched the two terms.  But
> if we're talking pure semantics, wouldn't you be more likely to
> entrust something labelled "STABLE" over a similar thing labelled
> "RELEASE"? ;)

Well, not if stable means just barely able to run without falling 
all over itself. 
 -- And release means solid reliable product, approved for general use.

Yah, stable is better than alpha or the bleeding edge 'current' development
image, but still in need of significant care.

Think of how they report someone's health condition after a trauma.
Stable seems to mean they can finally move the patient from the operating
room to a bed with monitors and walk down and get lunch.   But, the patient
is still a long way from being able to drive home.

Just so, a FreeBSD version spends a long time in stable before 
making it to RELEASE.

jerry

> 
> And of course, I'm now much more interested that procedure than I was
> a few minutes ago!

Good luck on that.I normally install from scratch rather than
do major level upgrades.

jerry

> 
> Thanks,
> ~John
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Re: FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[John DeStefano]

On 1/3/06, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a question here -- What do you mean until it goes stable?
> FreeBSD 6.0 is already at RELEASE which is beyond stable.
> So you have the terminology mangled or just the typing?

You're right: per the FreeBSD world, I've botched the two terms.  But
if we're talking pure semantics, wouldn't you be more likely to
entrust something labelled "STABLE" over a similar thing labelled
"RELEASE"? ;)

And of course, I'm now much more interested that procedure than I was
a few minutes ago!

Thanks,
~John
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Re: FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> From: "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > There is 5.4 to 6 upgrade also at
> >
> > http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-5.4-to-6.0/
> 
> This would be a great resource, if it were sure to work.  I am not
> anxious to go from 5.4-STABLE to 6.0 (not until it goes stable), but I
> tried to run through the preparatory steps as outlined on that page. 
> I ran into a few concerns with steps 2 and 4:


Just a question here -- What do you mean until it goes stable?
FreeBSD 6.0 is already at RELEASE which is beyond stable. 
So you have the terminology mangled or just the typing?

jerry

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Re: FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[John DeStefano]

From: "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> There is 5.4 to 6 upgrade also at
>
> http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-5.4-to-6.0/

This would be a great resource, if it were sure to work.  I am not
anxious to go from 5.4-STABLE to 6.0 (not until it goes stable), but I
tried to run through the preparatory steps as outlined on that page. 
I ran into a few concerns with steps 2 and 4:

> freebsd-update -v IDS | tail +8 | grep . > /root/base-modified

This resulted in an empty file for me... but perhaps that is as
expected.  When the suggested step is to "generate a list of files
from the base system which have been locally modified", are we talking
about a list of only binaries, or of _all_ locally modified files? 
While I've edited many configuration parameters, I certainly haven't
modified any binary files.

> cut -f 1 -d '$' /usr/local/freebsd-update/work/md5all | uniq |
> while read X; do
> if [ -f $X ]; then echo $X; fi;
> done | sort > /root/base-old

First, after installing freebsd-update according to the first step, I
don't have a "work" directory (nor anything at all in that directory,
for that matter).  Should something exist in this path after
installing the freebsd-update port?  And second, how would one
correctly execute this command string in bash?  I got errors from both
cut and while:
cut: [-cf] list: illegal list value
while: Expression Syntax.

Thanks,
~John
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Re- FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[Abhi]

--- "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,

>Anyone know where i can purchase FreeBSD 6 CD in india ?

You can try www.linuxbazar.com for purchasing FreeBSD/Linux CDs. They
didn't have FreeBSD 6 CDs when i checked the site last time. But they
can make it available for you evenif they don't have it currently. I
also have a dialup connection so downloading the ISOs is a daunting
task for me. I myself purchased CDs for FreeBSD 5.4 release and
NetBSD, so i think the site is reliable. Anyways give it a try if you
want.

Regards,
Abhijit


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Re: FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[Adam Nealis]

--- JK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 05:18:59 -0800 (PST)
>   Adam Nealis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I am using FreeBSD 5.2 on my local computer.
> >> 
> >> I want to upgrade to FreeBSD 6.0
> >> 
> >> Do i need to download both files ?
> > 
> > No. CD1 will give you as much as the OS plus X11 plus all sources. 
> >Plus
> > the complete ports tree as of 6.0-RELEASE.
> > 
> > CD2 contains several hundred binary packages, but are not required 
> >for the
> > OS upgrade.
> 
> I've always wondered this.  I'm running 5.1.  Can I upgrade to 6.x in 
> place, i.e. without having to full install and wipe my filesystem etc?


You should never do a major (any?) upgrade without making a backup of
important data, and then verifying the backup works.


Yes, you can upgrade in place. Read this.



It specifically warns against going from 4-STABLE to 6.0-RELEASE.

> If so, how do I do that?  I couldn't find anything in the Handbook or 
> anywhere that says one can do this.





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Re: FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[Daniel A.]

Hi Yujin,
If you want to do a fresh install of FreeBSD 6.0, I suggest that you
only download the bootonly ISO, and then do a minimal install using
FTP as source.
On 1/3/06, FlashWebHost.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using FreeBSD 5.2 on my local computer.
>
> I want to upgrade to FreeBSD 6.0
>
> Do i need to download both files ?
>
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.0/6.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.0/6.0-RELEASE-i386-disc2.iso
>
> Or first ISO will do the installation ?
>
> Since i am on slow net, downloading both will take few days to finish. I
> don't need GUI, just FreeBSD black and white installation :-)
>
> Anyone know where i can purchase FreeBSD 6 CD in india ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Yujin
>
> 
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Re: FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[FlashWebHost.com]

Thanks Adam for the reply. I will try downloading CD1.

I have upgraded my FreeBSD 5.3 to FreeBSD 5.4 as per

http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-5.3-to-5.4/

There is 5.4 to 6 upgrade also at

http://www.daemonology.net/freebsd-upgrade-5.4-to-6.0/

Regards,

Yujin

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Re: FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[JK]

On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 05:18:59 -0800 (PST)
 Adam Nealis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

--- "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

I am using FreeBSD 5.2 on my local computer.

I want to upgrade to FreeBSD 6.0

Do i need to download both files ?


No. CD1 will give you as much as the OS plus X11 plus all sources. 
Plus

the complete ports tree as of 6.0-RELEASE.

CD2 contains several hundred binary packages, but are not required 
for the

OS upgrade.


I've always wondered this.  I'm running 5.1.  Can I upgrade to 6.x in 
place, i.e. without having to full install and wipe my filesystem etc?


If so, how do I do that?  I couldn't find anything in the Handbook or 
anywhere that says one can do this.


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Re: FreeBSD 6 - Do i need both CD1 and CD2 ?

[Adam Nealis]

--- "FlashWebHost.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I am using FreeBSD 5.2 on my local computer.
> 
> I want to upgrade to FreeBSD 6.0
> 
> Do i need to download both files ?

No. CD1 will give you as much as the OS plus X11 plus all sources. Plus
the complete ports tree as of 6.0-RELEASE.

CD2 contains several hundred binary packages, but are not required for the
OS upgrade.

Cheers,
Adam.




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Re: FreeBSD 6, WPA-PSK, wpa_supplicant and a IBM a31p

[Daniel Hanson]

-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] said --

>Yes, probably WPA-encryption is simply not supported by your wireless
>card/chipset. AFAIK there is no way to use WPA with a wi-card. You either
>stick to WEP-encryption or buy a newer wireless card (ath or iwi would
>do WPA-PSK).

It was my understanding that WPA could be used on any network card, and is a 
function of the driver rather than the underlying card. I could be mistaken on 
that, but I havne't been able to find anything definitive that the wi driver 
doesn't allow this, and the card (using a different prism2 driver than 
available from ibm) works under windows (just got it working to see if it was 
the card). I got it working with WPA-PSK TKIP and I still fail under freebsd, 
so I figure it's either a bug or I am missing some configuration parameter. 

So. works under windows, anyone have an idea of how I might try and isolate if 
this is a driver issue or a config issue? 

D
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Re: FreeBSD 6, WPA-PSK, wpa_supplicant and a IBM a31p

[Uwe Laverenz]

On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 05:04:03PM -0700, Daniel Hanson wrote:

> Thoughts, ideas? directions. From my reading of the man pages, ap_scan

Yes, probably WPA-encryption is simply not supported by your wireless
card/chipset. AFAIK there is no way to use WPA with a wi-card. You either
stick to WEP-encryption or buy a newer wireless card (ath or iwi would
do WPA-PSK).

Uwe

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Re: FreeBSD 6 and Mysql

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Saturday, 10 December 2005 at 12:16:10 +0100, Bjrn Knig wrote:
> mohammad babaei schrieb:
>
>> Is the problem with mysql & freebsd threads still remaining ?
>
> Which problem?

There have been some performance issues with MySQL on newer versions
of FreeBSD.  A very few people have also documented stability
problems.  It's only a guess that either is related with threads.
Many more people are using MySQL and FreeBSD 6 with no problems.

If you have problems of this nature, please let me know, offline if
you prefer.

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Re: FreeBSD 6 and Mysql

[Björn König]

mohammad babaei schrieb:


Is the problem with mysql & freebsd threads still remaining ?


Which problem?

Björn
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Re: FreeBSD 6.x / GRE / WCCP / Squid

[Alan Garfield]

On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 08:32 +1100, Alan Garfield wrote:

> > I mean setting up the host explicitly to use the proxy? I don't
> > remember precisely, I did it a long ago, but I think you should use
> > wccp version 2 in order to run wccp with squid.
> 
> I've not tried version 2, but I will try it now.

Okay, Squid doesn't support WCCP version 2. So I decided to try to use a
route-map redirector to see if it was something else causing the issue.

Now I've have tried two was and I'm seeing the exact same problem.
Firstly I tried :-

kern conf
-

options IPFIREWALL
options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD

ipfw conf
-

ipfw add 50 fwd 127.0.0.1,3128 tcp from any to any 80


I see the packets hitting fxp0 correctly and I see the forward rules,
but nothing appears in tcpdump for lo0 nor does squid see anything
either.

So secondly I tried to us IP Filter instead. I removed all the
IPFIREWALL stuff from the kernel and I setup ipf as follows :-

ipnat.rules
--

rdr fxp0 0/0 port 80 -> 127.0.0.1 port 3128 tcp


Now I can see the transactions when I do 'ipnat -s' but still nothing
appears on the lo0. I have ip forwarding turned on and the machine is
acting as a gateway.

The only thing I can think of is the packets are from a private IP range
and the proxy server is in a routable IP range in my DMZ. But if that
where a problem why do I see the packets hitting the forwarding rules
but never coming out the otherside?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: FreeBSD 6.x / GRE / WCCP / Squid

[Alan Garfield]

Hello Cezar,

On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 19:48 +0200, Cezar Fistik wrote:
> Just a couple of thoughts.
> Do you realy need that tunnel? Try if it will work without it, maybe
> there's a problem with it.

I've not really got a tunnel. It's just setup as per the Squid docs to
have FreeBSD think it is. The Cisco just sends the packets encapsulated
in gre to the FreeBSD squid box. The tunnel is setup so FreeBSD will
strip the gre headers and present the system with the original
encapsulated packet on the gre0 interface.

I can see the encapsulated packets via tcpdump on gre0, and I can also
see the packets hitting my ipfw fwd rule when I turn logging on for that
rule. But I never see the forwarded packets, they just disappear!

>  Second, can you see your squid in show ip
> wcccp web-cache detail from the cisco? 

Yes, the Cisco happily sends the packets and sees the cache.

> Does you squid work without
> wccp? 

Yes, the cache works perfectly without issue.

> I mean setting up the host explicitly to use the proxy? I don't
> remember precisely, I did it a long ago, but I think you should use
> wccp version 2 in order to run wccp with squid.

I've not tried version 2, but I will try it now.

> Hope that helps.

Thanks,

Alan.

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Re: FreeBSD 6.x / GRE / WCCP / Squid

[Cezar Fistik]

Hello Alan,

Just a couple of thoughts.
Do you realy need that tunnel? Try if it will work without it, maybe
there's a problem with it. Second, can you see your squid in show ip
wcccp web-cache detail from the cisco? Does you squid work without
wccp? I mean setting up the host explicitly to use the proxy? I don't
remember precisely, I did it a long ago, but I think you should use
wccp version 2 in order to run wccp with squid.

Hope that helps.
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Re: FreeBSD 6 Apache Port

[Aaron Nichols]

On 11/30/05, Grant Peel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And, the php (cli version) went fine, but it did come up with a few gui
> questions, but non about --with-gd -enable-mysql etc etc. How to do I deal
> with that? I was thinking, after make, do I go to the work directory and add
> them to the configure line? then make again, and install again? OR can you
> add them directly to the make line?

These are both available as php4 modules and plugin to php just like
apache modules do:

databases/php4-mysql
graphics/php4-gd

A nice way to get these is to just run a 'make install' on
lang/php4-extensions which will give you a menu to select which
extensions you would like installed in one shot, with common defaults
already selected.

Aaron
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Re: FreeBSD 6 Apache Port

[Grant Peel]

Aaron,

Thanks for the advice. I tool it and the install went flawlessly.

Two quick questions though:

For testing, I want to use the snake oil cert, so am I limited to using open 
ssl now to comple the cert, as oppsed to the old apache

make
make certificate
make install   ?


And, the php (cli version) went fine, but it did come up with a few gui 
questions, but non about --with-gd -enable-mysql etc etc. How to do I deal 
with that? I was thinking, after make, do I go to the work directory and add 
them to the configure line? then make again, and install again? OR can you 
add them directly to the make line?


The above is the part about ports that has always confused me. And to be 
honest, I have never gotten a straight answer.


Thanks again,

-Grant

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From: "Aaron Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: ; "Grant Peel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6 Apache Port



On Tuesday 29 November 2005 20:15, Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

I am quite proficient at installing Apache, mod_ssl, mysql php (as a 
static

module) on FreeBSD < 5.0. I always do this from source as I do not
understand how to use the ports system ... as far as linking all the mods
together.

I have recently installed a new server using FreeBSD 6.0.

Does anyone know a good tutorial or guide on how to compile Apache 2.x
mod_ssl and php to gether from the ports collection? I know how to cd
/usr/ports/port_name_here , make , [make test] , make install, but have
never understood how to tie the mods together to procuce a complete 
setup.


Also, what is the prefered method for adding ./configure args to a port?

FYI, all I am looking to do is to compile Apache 2.x mod_ssl and php
together so as to have a ports build of the apache webserver.

Any help will be appreciated.

-Grant

Depending on which version of Apache you're trying to build depends on the
different modules you'll need to add in.

Apache 2 has native ssl included so no mod needed.  If you want php 
support in

your apache, then simply install the /usr/ports/www/mod_php(4_5) port.
DONE.. here is an excerpt from a google search:

"I recommend lang/php4

When you install it should come up with a menu allowing you to choose your
options (GD support, CLI, etc).  After it is done, it will tell you what 
to

add to your httpd.conf file to get .php files working (apache restart
required).  To test, make a file like:

 "


"Just a quick note.

/usr/ports/lang/php4 also includes command line interface beside the
apache module. if you only need mod_php, you can cd to
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4 instead/"

Aaron Martinez





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Re: FreeBSD 6 Apache Port

[Aaron Martinez]

On Tuesday 29 November 2005 20:15, Grant Peel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am quite proficient at installing Apache, mod_ssl, mysql php (as a static
> module) on FreeBSD < 5.0. I always do this from source as I do not
> understand how to use the ports system ... as far as linking all the mods
> together.
>
> I have recently installed a new server using FreeBSD 6.0.
>
> Does anyone know a good tutorial or guide on how to compile Apache 2.x
> mod_ssl and php to gether from the ports collection? I know how to cd
> /usr/ports/port_name_here , make , [make test] , make install, but have
> never understood how to tie the mods together to procuce a complete setup.
>
> Also, what is the prefered method for adding ./configure args to a port?
>
> FYI, all I am looking to do is to compile Apache 2.x mod_ssl and php
> together so as to have a ports build of the apache webserver.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> -Grant
Depending on which version of Apache you're trying to build depends on the 
different modules you'll need to add in.

Apache 2 has native ssl included so no mod needed.  If you want php support in 
your apache, then simply install the /usr/ports/www/mod_php(4_5) port.  
DONE.. here is an excerpt from a google search:

"I recommend lang/php4

When you install it should come up with a menu allowing you to choose your
options (GD support, CLI, etc).  After it is done, it will tell you what to
add to your httpd.conf file to get .php files working (apache restart
required).  To test, make a file like:

 "


"Just a quick note.

/usr/ports/lang/php4 also includes command line interface beside the
apache module. if you only need mod_php, you can cd to
/usr/ports/www/mod_php4 instead/"

Aaron Martinez
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Re: FreeBSD 6 DVD

[Wojciech Puchar]

I would like to know when you will release the official FreeBSD 6 DVD so I
can purchase it from FreeBSDMall. Also I want to know what is including
this DVD. I think must be like other UNIX-like environments that have all
the OS files plus some extra software that you can download them from the
Internet. If so I will be very happy. I am using FreeBSD for a few months
and up to now I am very satisfied with its usage. Also recommend me some
good books how to administer or install properly a FreeBSD server.


included in /usr/share/doc/

:)

just make sure you installed docs with sysinstall.

an excellent set of books!
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Re: FreeBSD 6 on Centrino laptop : how to prolong battery life with cpufreq (like est and estctrl did)

[Miles Keaton]

On 11/13/05, Luk van den Borne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You should load cpufreq in your /boot/loader.conf. cpufreq is the
> backend that FreeBSD uses for (dynamic) CPU scaling.
> cpufreq_load="YES"
>
> rc.conf:
> powerd_enable="YES"
> powerd_flags="-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive"


THAT WORKED!
Thanks guys.  I appreciate it.
My CPU is running cooler now, and the fan isn't turning on every 2 minutes.
Peace and quiet again...
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Re: FreeBSD 6 on Centrino laptop : how to prolong battery life with cpufreq (like est and estctrl did)

[J. Martin Petersen]

Miles Keaton wrote:
>>Miles Keaton wrote:
>>
>>>I'm happily using FreeBSD 6 on a Centrino laptop, but wondering if
>>>anyone can explain ("for dummies") how to use the new cpufreq +
>>>SpeedStep to throttle-down my CPU usage and extend battery life - the
>>>way that sysutils/est and sysutils/estctrl used to do in FreeBSD 5?
> 
> On 11/12/05, J. Martin Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>I'm using powerd, it's working great.
> 
> Any advice on usage?  I tried it and got this error:
> 
> # powerd -a minimum
> powerd: lookup freq: No such file or directory

Have you loaded the cpufreq kernel module. I'm not sure if the man-page
is verbose enough on this issue.

Cheers, Martin
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Re: FreeBSD 6 on Centrino laptop : how to prolong battery life with cpufreq (like est and estctrl did)

[Luk van den Borne]

2005/11/12, Miles Keaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Miles Keaton wrote:
> > > I'm happily using FreeBSD 6 on a Centrino laptop, but wondering if
> > > anyone can explain ("for dummies") how to use the new cpufreq +
> > > SpeedStep to throttle-down my CPU usage and extend battery life - the
> > > way that sysutils/est and sysutils/estctrl used to do in FreeBSD 5?
> On 11/12/05, J. Martin Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm using powerd, it's working great.
>
>
> Any advice on usage?  I tried it and got this error:
>
> # powerd -a minimum
> powerd: lookup freq: No such file or directory
You should load cpufreq in your loader.conf. I believe cpufreq is the
backend that FreeBSD uses for (dynamic) CPU scaling.
cpufreq_load="YES"

rc.conf:
powerd_enable="YES"
powerd_flags="-a adaptive -b adaptive -n adaptive"

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Re: FreeBSD 6 on Centrino laptop : how to prolong battery life with cpufreq (like est and estctrl did)

[Miles Keaton]

> Miles Keaton wrote:
> > I'm happily using FreeBSD 6 on a Centrino laptop, but wondering if
> > anyone can explain ("for dummies") how to use the new cpufreq +
> > SpeedStep to throttle-down my CPU usage and extend battery life - the
> > way that sysutils/est and sysutils/estctrl used to do in FreeBSD 5?
On 11/12/05, J. Martin Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using powerd, it's working great.


Any advice on usage?  I tried it and got this error:

# powerd -a minimum
powerd: lookup freq: No such file or directory
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Re: FreeBSD 6 on Centrino laptop : how to prolong battery life with cpufreq (like est and estctrl did)

[J. Martin Petersen]

Miles Keaton wrote:
> I'm happily using FreeBSD 6 on a Centrino laptop, but wondering if
> anyone can explain ("for dummies") how to use the new cpufreq +
> SpeedStep to throttle-down my CPU usage and extend battery life - the
> way that sysutils/est and sysutils/estctrl used to do in FreeBSD 5?

I'm using powerd, it's working great.

Cheers, Martin
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Re: FreeBSD 6 DVD

[Gilbert Fernandes]

> I would like to know when you will release the official FreeBSD 6
> DVD so I can purchase it from FreeBSDMall.

You can order it right now, no need to wait.
They'll send it to you as soon as ready.

I ordered my FreeBSD 6 set last week and waiting for it :)

They ship it as soon as ready. So why wait ?

--
unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ;
fsck ; umount ; sleep
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Re: FreeBSD 6 DVD

[Andrew P.]

On 11/10/05, stefanos sofroniou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear sirs,
>
> I would like to know when you will release the official FreeBSD 6 DVD so I
> can purchase it from FreeBSDMall. Also I want to know what is including
> this DVD. I think must be like other UNIX-like environments that have all
> the OS files plus some extra software that you can download them from the
> Internet. If so I will be very happy. I am using FreeBSD for a few months
> and up to now I am very satisfied with its usage. Also recommend me some
> good books how to administer or install properly a FreeBSD server.
>
> Thank you very much
>
> Stefanos Sofroniou
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FreeBSD 6.0 DVD's will be released by several vendors
and will likely contain just what you said plus live fs.
You can find a list of vendors (not complete) here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html

The FreeBSD Handbook is the reference guide:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html

Browse through the whole documentation section of
www.freebsd.org, there are lots of invaluable info there.

Among other sources, these books are a bit outdate,
but they are kind of must-have classics for all who love
FreeBSD:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596005164
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1886411743
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0201702452

There are dozens of other great FreeBSD-dedicated and
FreeBSD-related books on Amazon.
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Re: freeBSD 6 server motherboard recommendation ??

[Andrew P.]

On 10/20/05, ke.han <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear List,
> Yes I know this is an often asked question and there is lots of info on
> the web.  But I have been reading for 6 hours and my head is swimming
> and I'm still am not closer to an answer.  I need to get a freeBSD 6
> server in production in less than a week and don't have the skills to
> tweak and ensure the hardware is running optimally. So I need
> recommendations for a server motherboard that works well out of the box.
>
> In summary:
> I need a rock solid server motherboard for freeBSD 6 with the following
> characteristics:
> 1 - 2 x CPU (Pentium or Opteron is ok with me)
> 2 - SATA (2 ports supporting RAID 1).  If this is not possible, please
> recommend an add-on card that will do the job.
> 3 - 2 x Gig Ethernet ports (I have read many things about some Ethernet
> controller/drivers working better than others.  I need great throughput
> without tweaking the freeBSD install)
> 4 - RAM (As long as the mobo is modern, the RAM choices should be fast
> enough)
>
> thanks, ke han
>
>
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Tyan is a wonderful choice.

Still, you should consider buying a pre-built server.

I'll also say against a software controller raid solution.
If you really need 2 SATA in RAID 1, look into gvinum.
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Re: freeBSD 6 server motherboard recommendation ??

[Peter A. Giessel]

On 10/20/2005 09:29, ke.han seems to have typed:
> 1 - 2 x CPU (Pentium or Opteron is ok with me)

If you are going to use AMD64, try here:
http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html

otherwise try here:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.4R/hardware-i386.html

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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Kris Kennaway]

On Sat, Jul 30, 2005 at 02:23:54PM +0530, Subhro wrote:

> -O2 is known to create broken binaries. Reduce it to -O and recompile. 
> Report back if it still does not work.

No, only on 4.x and below.

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Nikolas Britton]

On 7/30/05, Subhro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -O2 is known to create broken binaries. Reduce it to -O and recompile.
> Report back if it still does not work.
> 

-O2 is the default now for 6.x. I just added "device   drm" and am
rebuilding it to see if that works, will post the results when it's
done
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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Subhro]

Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 7/28/05, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:00:49PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
   


The kernel build failed when it tired to compile the r128drm device.
 


Show us the error.

   



cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing  -Wall -Wredundant-decls
-Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -std=c99 
-nostdinc -I-  -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica

-I../../../contrib/altq -I../../../contrib/ipfilter
-I../../../contrib/pf -I../../../contrib/dev/ath
-I../../../contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I../../../contrib/ngatm
-I../../../dev/twa -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common
-finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param
large-function-growth=1000  -mno-align-long-strings
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2
-ffreestanding -Werror  vnode_if.c
touch hack.c
cc -shared -nostdlib hack.c -o hack.So
rm -f hack.c
MAKE=make sh ../../../conf/newvers.sh GENERIC
cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing  -Wall -Wredundant-decls
-Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -std=c99 
-nostdinc -I-  -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica

-I../../../contrib/altq -I../../../contrib/ipfilter
-I../../../contrib/pf -I../../../contrib/dev/ath
-I../../../contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I../../../contrib/ngatm
-I../../../dev/twa -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common
-finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param
large-function-growth=1000  -mno-align-long-strings
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2
-ffreestanding -Werror  vers.c
linking kernel
r128_cce.o(.text+0x354): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_free'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x372): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_irq_uninstall'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x394): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremapfree'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x3a8): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_ati_pcigart_cleanup'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x3d7): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremapfree'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x3e3): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremapfree'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x400): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x4ab): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x4bb): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_alloc'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x504): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x575): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x7e2): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_order'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x851): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x8e0): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xa1d): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremap'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xa2f): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremap'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xa41): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremap'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xab3): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_ati_pcigart_init'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xc08): In function `r128_cce_start':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xc87): In function `r128_cce_start':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xd13): In function `r128_cce_stop':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xe14): In function `r128_cce_reset':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xea1): In function `r128_cce_reset':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xedd): more undefined references to `drm_debug_flag' follow
r128_drv.o(.text+0xc): In function `r128_probe':
: undefined reference to `drm_probe'
r128_drv.o(.text+0xca): In function `r128_attach':
: undefined reference to `drm_attach'
r128_drv.o(.data+0x48): undefined reference to `drm_devclass'
r128_drv.o(.data+0x94): undefined reference to `drm_detach'
r128_irq.o(.text+0x48): In function `r128_driver_irq_handler':
: undefined reference to `drm_vbl_send_signals'
r128_state.o(.text+0xb): In function `r128_emit_clip_rects':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_state.o(.text+0x2d0): In function `r128_cce_dispatch_flip':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_state.o(.text+0x523): In function `r128_cce_dispatch_indirect':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_state.o(.text+0x7e4): In function `r128_cce_clear':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_state.o(.text+0x906): In function `r128_cce_clear':
: undefined reference to `drm_debu

Re: FreeBSD 6

[Nikolas Britton]

On 7/28/05, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:00:49PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> > 
> > The kernel build failed when it tired to compile the r128drm device.
> 
> Show us the error.
> 

cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing  -Wall -Wredundant-decls
-Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -std=c99 
-nostdinc -I-  -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica
-I../../../contrib/altq -I../../../contrib/ipfilter
-I../../../contrib/pf -I../../../contrib/dev/ath
-I../../../contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I../../../contrib/ngatm
-I../../../dev/twa -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common
-finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param
large-function-growth=1000  -mno-align-long-strings
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2
-ffreestanding -Werror  vnode_if.c
touch hack.c
cc -shared -nostdlib hack.c -o hack.So
rm -f hack.c
MAKE=make sh ../../../conf/newvers.sh GENERIC
cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing  -Wall -Wredundant-decls
-Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -fformat-extensions -std=c99 
-nostdinc -I-  -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica
-I../../../contrib/altq -I../../../contrib/ipfilter
-I../../../contrib/pf -I../../../contrib/dev/ath
-I../../../contrib/dev/ath/freebsd -I../../../contrib/ngatm
-I../../../dev/twa -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -fno-common
-finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param
large-function-growth=1000  -mno-align-long-strings
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2
-ffreestanding -Werror  vers.c
linking kernel
r128_cce.o(.text+0x354): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_free'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x372): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_irq_uninstall'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x394): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremapfree'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x3a8): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_ati_pcigart_cleanup'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x3d7): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremapfree'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x3e3): In function `r128_do_cleanup_cce':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremapfree'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x400): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x4ab): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x4bb): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_alloc'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x504): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x575): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x7e2): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_order'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x851): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0x8e0): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xa1d): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremap'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xa2f): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremap'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xa41): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_ioremap'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xab3): In function `r128_cce_init':
: undefined reference to `drm_ati_pcigart_init'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xc08): In function `r128_cce_start':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xc87): In function `r128_cce_start':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xd13): In function `r128_cce_stop':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xe14): In function `r128_cce_reset':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xea1): In function `r128_cce_reset':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_cce.o(.text+0xedd): more undefined references to `drm_debug_flag' follow
r128_drv.o(.text+0xc): In function `r128_probe':
: undefined reference to `drm_probe'
r128_drv.o(.text+0xca): In function `r128_attach':
: undefined reference to `drm_attach'
r128_drv.o(.data+0x48): undefined reference to `drm_devclass'
r128_drv.o(.data+0x94): undefined reference to `drm_detach'
r128_irq.o(.text+0x48): In function `r128_driver_irq_handler':
: undefined reference to `drm_vbl_send_signals'
r128_state.o(.text+0xb): In function `r128_emit_clip_rects':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_state.o(.text+0x2d0): In function `r128_cce_dispatch_flip':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_state.o(.text+0x523): In function `r128_cce_dispatch_indirect':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_state.o(.text+0x7e4): In function `r128_cce_clear':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_state.o(.text+0x906): In function `r128_cce_clear':
: undefined reference to `drm_debug_flag'
r128_state.o(.text+0xc0f):

Re: FreeBSD 6

[Kris Kennaway]

On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:33:55PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:

> At boot up I get these errors / warnings:
> "kenv: unable to get dumpdev"

How are you setting up your dumpdev?  Show us your config.

> "no such user: _dhcp, falling back to "nobody""
> 
> I left groups and master.passwd files to deal with later in
> mergemaster and then I manually added the dhcp user to both of those
> files but the system still can't find him.

_dhcp, not dhcp.

Kris

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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Kris Kennaway]

On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:00:49PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> Do I always need to run 'make cleandepend' when rebuilding a kernel,
> normally I build my kernels the old school way?
> 
> Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
> -Os, safe to use?

Should be OK.

> The kernel build failed when it tired to compile the r128drm device.

Show us the error.

> Is it safe to run the ULE scheduler instead of the 4BSD scheduler, ULE
> is commented out in the default kernel?

ULE still has known bugs, particularly on SMP or with PREEMPTION
enabled.

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Kris Kennaway]

On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:07:46PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:

> One more thing... Will FreeBSD 5.4 kernel modules work under 6.x?

No, you have to recompile them.

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Kövesdán Gábor]

Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 7/27/05, Kövesdán Gábor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Nikolas Britton wrote:

   


On 7/26/05, Kövesdán Gábor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 


Nikolas Britton wrote:



   


Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
-Os, safe to use?





 


So is it for me. But if I specify some CFLAGS, for example -O3
-march=athlon64, the
building fails, but CFLAGS mustn't affect the kernel compiling process
afaik. There is
COPTFLAGS for that reason. I've also made a PR about this new, unwanted
behaviour,
but haven't got any answers so yet.



   


You are right, COPTCLAGS is for the kernel only. -O3 is not officially
supported for CFLAGS or COPTFLAGS. If you use -O3 for CFLAGS it will
break some ports. Also from my experience using anything higher then
CPUTYPE=p2 will break ports (like gstreamer).

This is what I normally add to my make.conf file:
CPUTYPE=p2
CFLAGS= -Os -pipes
COPTFLAGS= -Os -pipes
#CXXFLAGS= don't remember what I set this too, don't use it a lot.

If I want a port to build with different settings I just tell it to
inline... make CPUTYPE=p4 install clean etc.



 


Yes, I know -O3 isn't supported for either, but I didn't mean ports. The
kernel building
fails with this:
CFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon64
#COPTFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon64   <-This is commenred out!
And this breaks the kernel compiling. See this:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=83995
   



Isn't their a way to overide any setting in make.conf by putting it (
-O flags ) inside the kernel config file, I seem to remember doing
something like that in the passed. Or you could do it all inline again
like: nice -20 make -j2 CYPUTYPE=p4 "CFLAGS= -Os -pipe"
KERNCONF=ME_COLONEL buildkernel
 


IIRC, the makeoptions option is to do this in the kernel config file.
E.g. makeoptions   MODULES_OVERRIDE="" to skip modules building.
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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Nikolas Britton]

On 7/27/05, Kövesdán Gábor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nikolas Britton wrote:
> 
> >On 7/26/05, Kövesdán Gábor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Nikolas Britton wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
> >>>-Os, safe to use?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>So is it for me. But if I specify some CFLAGS, for example -O3
> >>-march=athlon64, the
> >>building fails, but CFLAGS mustn't affect the kernel compiling process
> >>afaik. There is
> >>COPTFLAGS for that reason. I've also made a PR about this new, unwanted
> >>behaviour,
> >>but haven't got any answers so yet.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >You are right, COPTCLAGS is for the kernel only. -O3 is not officially
> >supported for CFLAGS or COPTFLAGS. If you use -O3 for CFLAGS it will
> >break some ports. Also from my experience using anything higher then
> >CPUTYPE=p2 will break ports (like gstreamer).
> >
> >This is what I normally add to my make.conf file:
> >CPUTYPE=p2
> >CFLAGS= -Os -pipes
> >COPTFLAGS= -Os -pipes
> >#CXXFLAGS= don't remember what I set this too, don't use it a lot.
> >
> >If I want a port to build with different settings I just tell it to
> >inline... make CPUTYPE=p4 install clean etc.
> >
> >
> >
> Yes, I know -O3 isn't supported for either, but I didn't mean ports. The
> kernel building
> fails with this:
> CFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon64
> #COPTFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon64   <-This is commenred out!
> And this breaks the kernel compiling. See this:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=83995

Isn't their a way to overide any setting in make.conf by putting it (
-O flags ) inside the kernel config file, I seem to remember doing
something like that in the passed. Or you could do it all inline again
like: nice -20 make -j2 CYPUTYPE=p4 "CFLAGS= -Os -pipe"
KERNCONF=ME_COLONEL buildkernel
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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Kövesdán Gábor]

Nikolas Britton wrote:


On 7/26/05, Kövesdán Gábor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 


Nikolas Britton wrote:

   


Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
-Os, safe to use?



 


So is it for me. But if I specify some CFLAGS, for example -O3
-march=athlon64, the
building fails, but CFLAGS mustn't affect the kernel compiling process
afaik. There is
COPTFLAGS for that reason. I've also made a PR about this new, unwanted
behaviour,
but haven't got any answers so yet.

   



You are right, COPTCLAGS is for the kernel only. -O3 is not officially
supported for CFLAGS or COPTFLAGS. If you use -O3 for CFLAGS it will
break some ports. Also from my experience using anything higher then
CPUTYPE=p2 will break ports (like gstreamer).

This is what I normally add to my make.conf file:
CPUTYPE=p2
CFLAGS= -Os -pipes
COPTFLAGS= -Os -pipes
#CXXFLAGS= don't remember what I set this too, don't use it a lot.

If I want a port to build with different settings I just tell it to
inline... make CPUTYPE=p4 install clean etc.

 

Yes, I know -O3 isn't supported for either, but I didn't mean ports. The 
kernel building

fails with this:
CFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon64
#COPTFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon64   <-This is commenred out!
And this breaks the kernel compiling. See this:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=83995



As far as -O2 as the default for the kernel... I thought it was more
important to have a small kernel then a faster but fatter one. The
smaller the kernel the more you can put in L1,2, and 3 cache and the
smaller the program the less it needs to hit ram, swap, and hard disk?
isn't this what apple does with their OS-X builds?
 


I also use -Os -march=athlon64 on the server I administer. :)

Cheers,

Gábor Kövesdán
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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2005-07-26 19:16, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is what I normally add to my make.conf file:
> CPUTYPE=p2
> CFLAGS= -Os -pipes
> COPTFLAGS= -Os -pipes
> #CXXFLAGS= don't remember what I set this too, don't use it a lot.

I'm sure you mean -pipe and not -pipes :-)

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RE: FreeBSD 6

[Norbert Koch]

> As far as -O2 as the default for the kernel... I thought it was more
> important to have a small kernel then a faster but fatter one. The
> smaller the kernel the more you can put in L1,2, and 3 cache and the
> smaller the program the less it needs to hit ram, swap, and hard disk?

Just my opinion. I am not sure if, under realistic conditions, -O2
is better than -Os.

Norbert
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RE: FreeBSD 6

[Norbert Koch]

> Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
> -Os, safe to use?

As I understand the gcc description, -Os is -O2 with options turned off that
possibly lead to increased code size.
So it should work.


Norbert

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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Nikolas Britton]

> > > > > Is the new ATA RAID stuff, metadata something, going to be backported
> > > > > to 5.x? I'm trying setup a RAID 1 mirror with Intel ICH5R / Adaptec
> > > > > HostRAID but it looks like it's not supported in 5.x
> >
> > Search for messages about that.  SOS@ has discussed it quite a bit, if
> > I recall correctly.
> >
> > > > One more thing... Will FreeBSD 5.4 kernel modules work under 6.x?
> >
> 
> Yes I just found that out when I tried to load the Highpoint RAID
> driver on FreeBSD 6, the system panics very early in the boot process.
> This means that FreeBSD 6 is completely out of the question for this
> system and I really did not want to run 6.x anyways, I'm migrating a
> production 5.4 server to this new hardware.
> 
> What is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and where can I read the discussions about sata RAID
> problems? I seem to have two options for this server:
> (1) Get the ICH5R / Adaptec HostRAID working with 5.4 (as device ar0, ad4 + 
> ad6)
> (2) Find a (cheap) SATA RAID 1 card that is supported by the ar / ata
> device in 5.4.
> 
> The problem with (2) is that I can't find any cheap (less then $60
> USD) SATA RAID 1 cards that will work with device ar. I'm going to
> post this problem to a new thread.
> 

SOS@, Are you are referring to the ATA-mkIII patch set by Søren
Schmidt? Is this the most current place to find this patch set?:
http://people.freebsd.org/~sos/ATA/
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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Nikolas Britton]

On 7/26/05, Kövesdán Gábor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nikolas Britton wrote:
> 
> >Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
> >-Os, safe to use?
> >
> >
> >
> So is it for me. But if I specify some CFLAGS, for example -O3
> -march=athlon64, the
> building fails, but CFLAGS mustn't affect the kernel compiling process
> afaik. There is
> COPTFLAGS for that reason. I've also made a PR about this new, unwanted
> behaviour,
> but haven't got any answers so yet.
> 

You are right, COPTCLAGS is for the kernel only. -O3 is not officially
supported for CFLAGS or COPTFLAGS. If you use -O3 for CFLAGS it will
break some ports. Also from my experience using anything higher then
CPUTYPE=p2 will break ports (like gstreamer).

This is what I normally add to my make.conf file:
CPUTYPE=p2
CFLAGS= -Os -pipes
COPTFLAGS= -Os -pipes
#CXXFLAGS= don't remember what I set this too, don't use it a lot.

If I want a port to build with different settings I just tell it to
inline... make CPUTYPE=p4 install clean etc.

As far as -O2 as the default for the kernel... I thought it was more
important to have a small kernel then a faster but fatter one. The
smaller the kernel the more you can put in L1,2, and 3 cache and the
smaller the program the less it needs to hit ram, swap, and hard disk?
isn't this what apple does with their OS-X builds?
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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Nikolas Britton]

On 26 Jul 2005 16:46:39 -0400, Lowell Gilbert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FreeBSD 6 (which hasn't been released yet, and will change a bit more
> before it is) is still very cutting edge.  I would *strongly*
> recommend that you follow the -CURRENT mailing list if you're going to
> use it.
> 
> Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On 7/26/05, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 7/26/05, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Do I always need to run 'make cleandepend' when rebuilding a kernel,
> > > > normally I build my kernels the old school way?
> > > >
> > > > Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
> > > > -Os, safe to use?
> 
> Yes, and not sure.
> 
> > > > The kernel build failed when it tired to compile the r128drm device.
> 
> With a default kernel?  Try updating your sources again.
> 

I can try it again and post the error

> > > > Is it safe to run the ULE scheduler instead of the 4BSD scheduler, ULE
> > > > is commented out in the default kernel?
> 
> See the -CURRENT list archives.  It's gotten fairly stable for a lot
> of people, and performs better in a number of cases, but it still
> causes trouble in some others.

What kind of troubles are we talking about? also I see that preemption
is now on by default. I have been running preemption on a 5.x box of a
long time now, no problems.
 
> 
> > > > Is the new ATA RAID stuff, metadata something, going to be backported
> > > > to 5.x? I'm trying setup a RAID 1 mirror with Intel ICH5R / Adaptec
> > > > HostRAID but it looks like it's not supported in 5.x
> 
> Search for messages about that.  SOS@ has discussed it quite a bit, if
> I recall correctly.
> 
> > > One more thing... Will FreeBSD 5.4 kernel modules work under 6.x?
> 

Yes I just found that out when I tried to load the Highpoint RAID
driver on FreeBSD 6, the system panics very early in the boot process.
This means that FreeBSD 6 is completely out of the question for this
system and I really did not want to run 6.x anyways, I'm migrating a
production 5.4 server to this new hardware.

What is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and where can I read the discussions about sata RAID
problems? I seem to have two options for this server:
(1) Get the ICH5R / Adaptec HostRAID working with 5.4 (as device ar0, ad4 + ad6)
(2) Find a (cheap) SATA RAID 1 card that is supported by the ar / ata
device in 5.4.

The problem with (2) is that I can't find any cheap (less then $60
USD) SATA RAID 1 cards that will work with device ar. I'm going to
post this problem to a new thread.

> 
> >
> > Sorry! a few more things:
> >
> > At boot up I get these errors / warnings:
> > "kenv: unable to get dumpdev"
> 
> Try setting dumpdev?
> 
> > "no such user: _dhcp, falling back to "nobody""
> >
> > I left groups and master.passwd files to deal with later in
> > mergemaster and then I manually added the dhcp user to both of those
> > files but the system still can't find him.
> 
> You rebuilt the password database, right?  You know you can't just
> open up the password file and edit it?

No I did not, how do I regenerate the database? normally I use pw or
vipw when I change that stuff and I've never been asked by mergemaster
to change those files.

Also with mergemaster it seemed like 50% of the 100 or so files that
where changed where just changes to the cvs doc revision /
timestamp... wouldn't it be better to install those files by default
instead of asking the user?

> 
> > "Starting default moused: moused: unable to open /dev/ums0: Device busy"
> >
> > I don't know whats up with that but my mouse does work.
> 
> And if you disable moused?

Not sure, I installed it on one of my home systems and I'm at work.

Thanks.
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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Lowell Gilbert]

FreeBSD 6 (which hasn't been released yet, and will change a bit more
before it is) is still very cutting edge.  I would *strongly*
recommend that you follow the -CURRENT mailing list if you're going to
use it.

Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 7/26/05, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 7/26/05, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Do I always need to run 'make cleandepend' when rebuilding a kernel,
> > > normally I build my kernels the old school way?
> > >
> > > Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
> > > -Os, safe to use?

Yes, and not sure.

> > > The kernel build failed when it tired to compile the r128drm device.

With a default kernel?  Try updating your sources again.

> > > Is it safe to run the ULE scheduler instead of the 4BSD scheduler, ULE
> > > is commented out in the default kernel?

See the -CURRENT list archives.  It's gotten fairly stable for a lot
of people, and performs better in a number of cases, but it still
causes trouble in some others.

> > > Is the new ATA RAID stuff, metadata something, going to be backported
> > > to 5.x? I'm trying setup a RAID 1 mirror with Intel ICH5R / Adaptec
> > > HostRAID but it looks like it's not supported in 5.x

Search for messages about that.  SOS@ has discussed it quite a bit, if
I recall correctly.

> > One more thing... Will FreeBSD 5.4 kernel modules work under 6.x?

No.

> 
> Sorry! a few more things:
> 
> At boot up I get these errors / warnings:
> "kenv: unable to get dumpdev"

Try setting dumpdev?

> "no such user: _dhcp, falling back to "nobody""
> 
> I left groups and master.passwd files to deal with later in
> mergemaster and then I manually added the dhcp user to both of those
> files but the system still can't find him.

You rebuilt the password database, right?  You know you can't just
open up the password file and edit it?

> "Starting default moused: moused: unable to open /dev/ums0: Device busy"
> 
> I don't know whats up with that but my mouse does work.

And if you disable moused?

-- 
Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area
http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/
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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Nikolas Britton]

On 7/26/05, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/26/05, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do I always need to run 'make cleandepend' when rebuilding a kernel,
> > normally I build my kernels the old school way?
> >
> > Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
> > -Os, safe to use?
> >
> > The kernel build failed when it tired to compile the r128drm device.
> >
> > Is it safe to run the ULE scheduler instead of the 4BSD scheduler, ULE
> > is commented out in the default kernel?
> >
> > Is the new ATA RAID stuff, metadata something, going to be backported
> > to 5.x? I'm trying setup a RAID 1 mirror with Intel ICH5R / Adaptec
> > HostRAID but it looks like it's not supported in 5.x
> >
> > --
> >
> > Feel free to add more questions to this thread.
> >
> 
> 
> One more thing... Will FreeBSD 5.4 kernel modules work under 6.x?
> 

Sorry! a few more things:

At boot up I get these errors / warnings:
"kenv: unable to get dumpdev"

"no such user: _dhcp, falling back to "nobody""

I left groups and master.passwd files to deal with later in
mergemaster and then I manually added the dhcp user to both of those
files but the system still can't find him.

"Starting default moused: moused: unable to open /dev/ums0: Device busy"

I don't know whats up with that but my mouse does work.
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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Kövesdán Gábor]

Nikolas Britton wrote:


Do I always need to run 'make cleandepend' when rebuilding a kernel,
normally I build my kernels the old school way?

 

I suspect it is only needed, when You want to rebuild Your custom 
kernel, but haven't deleted
the /usr/src/sys/arch/compile/KERNCONF/ directory, so there is some old 
junk.



Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
-Os, safe to use?

 

So is it for me. But if I specify some CFLAGS, for example -O3 
-march=athlon64, the
building fails, but CFLAGS mustn't affect the kernel compiling process 
afaik. There is
COPTFLAGS for that reason. I've also made a PR about this new, unwanted 
behaviour,

but haven't got any answers so yet.


The kernel build failed when it tired to compile the r128drm device.

Is it safe to run the ULE scheduler instead of the 4BSD scheduler, ULE
is commented out in the default kernel?

 

It's nice for me. I had a general protection fault, but I can't prove, 
that ULE made that,
I had similar with 4BSD. FreeBSD 6 is quite stable for me when I don't 
use my nve network

interface that has a poor driver.


Is the new ATA RAID stuff, metadata something, going to be backported
to 5.x? I'm trying setup a RAID 1 mirror with Intel ICH5R / Adaptec
HostRAID but it looks like it's not supported in 5.x

--

Feel free to add more questions to this thread.
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Re: FreeBSD 6

[Nikolas Britton]

On 7/26/05, Nikolas Britton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do I always need to run 'make cleandepend' when rebuilding a kernel,
> normally I build my kernels the old school way?
> 
> Is it just me or is -O2 now the default for kernel builds? What about
> -Os, safe to use?
> 
> The kernel build failed when it tired to compile the r128drm device.
> 
> Is it safe to run the ULE scheduler instead of the 4BSD scheduler, ULE
> is commented out in the default kernel?
> 
> Is the new ATA RAID stuff, metadata something, going to be backported
> to 5.x? I'm trying setup a RAID 1 mirror with Intel ICH5R / Adaptec
> HostRAID but it looks like it's not supported in 5.x
> 
> --
> 
> Feel free to add more questions to this thread.
> 


One more thing... Will FreeBSD 5.4 kernel modules work under 6.x?
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