Re[2]: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
Hello Frank, Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 10:41:17 PM, you wrote: snip FS Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree: FS $ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz FS (warning! 35MB compressed) Will do when I have Internet connection via FreeBSD box. Need to set up ADSL connection - am currently reading about that process. Also, need to figure out how USB gets set up properly. But these are two separate issues that I will probably be asking about in the very near future ... if I haven't managed to make any real progress in these areas. FS and: FS # mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports FS # cd /usr/ports FS # tar xvzf ports.tar.gz FS to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building FS sudo: FS $ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo FS if there's nothing then: FS # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/ FS # make install clean Thanks for the detailed steps. FS Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using FS portsnap or cvsup. Will do. P.S. Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of replying. I did a reply all ... snip FS That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted FS in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list. Yes, this was my line of thinking, but don't want to upset anyone as I am a newbie here. ;) FS Welcome to FreeBSD! Thanks. Appreciate it, Frank. -- Best regards, ograbme ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 05:30:43PM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote: ... at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from CD. That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't complete, as in: not all the ports are there. Any idea why? (I am referring to the ports tree itself, i.e. the collection of skeleton directories. The set of distfiles provided on CDs 3 and 4 is necessarily incomplete, both due to limited space and because some distfiles have legal restrictions that prevent their inclusion.) Because since the release CD was cut, the porters have been tirelessly porting new software and updating existing software - the ports tree is pretty much in a constant state of growth and development. As soon as the release is cut, the included ports tree is out of date. -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: http://www.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey-dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ pgps591PQcSnj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 08:19:22AM -0400, ograbme wrote: Hello Frank, Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 10:41:17 PM, you wrote: snip FS Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree: FS $ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz FS (warning! 35MB compressed) Will do when I have Internet connection via FreeBSD box. Need to set up ADSL connection - am currently reading about that process. Also, need to figure out how USB gets set up properly. But these are two separate issues that I will probably be asking about in the very near future ... if I haven't managed to make any real progress in these areas. I didn't realise you didn't have a network connection yet! For usb, you need: usbd_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf The handbook is your best bet to get your network connection going. Any problems, just post here. FS and: FS # mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports FS # cd /usr/ports FS # tar xvzf ports.tar.gz FS to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building FS sudo: FS $ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo FS if there's nothing then: FS # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/ FS # make install clean Thanks for the detailed steps. FS Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using FS portsnap or cvsup. Will do. P.S. Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of replying. I did a reply all ... snip FS That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted FS in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list. Yes, this was my line of thinking, but don't want to upset anyone as I am a newbie here. ;) Yeah, it always helps if you don't piss off everybody when you're tring to get help ;) FS Welcome to FreeBSD! Thanks. Appreciate it, Frank. No worries. BTW, you can get back to the installer with: # /stand/sysinstall and from there with your discs you can install a limited amount of ports/packages. Best of luck with it. It will take you some blood, sweat and tears to familiarise yourself with FreeBSD but once you've gone through the initial learning process and setting up the basics such as networking and email, it's very easy to maintain your system and install software - much easier than Linux IMHO. The ports system for application software and buildkernel/buildworld for upgrading your base system are very effective. -- Frank echo f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k | sed 's/ //g' ---PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B--- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
I am a Linux user and have been recently trying to shift to FreeBSD. I got hold of a couple of FreeBSD CD ISOs (version 6.1) - their names being 6.1-RELEASE-i386-discX.iso, X being 1 and 2. I did my installation with the Disc1 alone. I did not need Disc2. What is the purpose of Disc2 and what can I do with it. I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a little while before I can set it up for browsing. Does Disc2 contain some of the ports collection? Finally, what is the ports collection? Cheers! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On 12/09/06, Arindam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a Linux user and have been recently trying to shift to FreeBSD. I got hold of a couple of FreeBSD CD ISOs (version 6.1) - their names being 6.1-RELEASE-i386-discX.iso, X being 1 and 2. I did my installation with the Disc1 alone. I did not need Disc2. What is the purpose of Disc2 and what can I do with it. I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a little while before I can set it up for browsing. Does Disc2 contain some of the ports collection? Finally, what is the ports collection? To take your last question first: The ports collection allows you to install software from source that does not come as part of the base distribution - that equates, more or less, to stuff that on FreeBSD installs itself to directories in / and /usr. The base distribution includes stuff like the X Window System, but not KDE, Firefox or MH, the mail handler. These latter three are available as ports, which when compiled go into /usr/local by default on FreeBSD. The FreeBSD installation program asks if you want to install the ports collection, but what it actually does is install a bunch of directories (under /usr/ports) that you can use to browse what's available in the ports collection. For example, to download a port, say, Firefox compiled for use with the Linux compatibility layer, go into /usr/ports/linux/linux-firefox and type: $ make install clean (note you need to have Linux compatibility already installed and turned on to make this work). ($ stands for the prompt, as you probably know); make reads the Makefile, and according to instructions in it, downloads the sources and compiles them; make install and make clean (given here in shorthand) respectively install the compiled port and clean up after make. The alternative way to install software is from packages, which are pre-compiled ports. You can use sysinstall to install them, or pkg_add from the commandline. Disc2 mostly contains some of these packages (others are on Disc1). Cheers You're welcome! Jeff. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 11:41, Jeff Rollin wrote: To take your last question first: The ports collection allows you to install software from source that does not come as part of the base distribution - that equates, more or less, to stuff that on FreeBSD installs itself to directories in / and /usr. The base distribution includes stuff like the X Window System, but not KDE, Firefox or MH, the mail handler. The base system doesn't include X Windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
The base system doesn't include X Windows. _ Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it must be installed as a package from sysinstall). Jeff Rollin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 11:29:31 AM, Jeff confabulated: The base system doesn't include X Windows. _ Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it must be installed as a package from sysinstall). Shouldn't you also be able to: cd /usr/ports/x11; make install clean -- This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On 12/09/06, Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 11:29:31 AM, Jeff confabulated: The base system doesn't include X Windows. _ Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it must be installed as a package from sysinstall). Shouldn't you also be able to: cd /usr/ports/x11; make install clean -- That sentence was intended not to mean you have to install XWS as a package from sysinstall but It must be the case that sysinstall installs it as a package built from ports. Jeff Rollin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 12:29, Jeff Rollin wrote: The base system doesn't include X Windows. _ Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it must be installed as a package from sysinstall). That's actually my biggest problem with sysinstall, that it's standard installation mixes-up base system options and package options. I only use sysinstall once in a blue moon, and I find that Choose Distributions menu, baffling - even though I know what I want installed. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 12:03:47 PM, Jeff confabulated: On 12/09/06, Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, September 12, 2006 at 11:29:31 AM, Jeff confabulated: The base system doesn't include X Windows. _ Right, I was thinking of NetBSD. X Window System is a FreeBSD port (so it must be installed as a package from sysinstall). Shouldn't you also be able to: cd /usr/ports/x11; make install clean -- That sentence was intended not to mean you have to install XWS as a package from sysinstall but It must be the case that sysinstall installs it as a package built from ports. I wasn't for sure as I don't install many things using sysinstall. Thanks for clarifying. -- This message was sent using 100% recycled electrons. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
Howdie Jeff (if I may) and others, Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 6:41:38 AM, you wrote: JR On 12/09/06, Arindam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a little while before I can set it up for browsing. snip I too took this same approach as the box I installed FreeBSD 6.1 Release is not hooked up to the Internet. I bypassed installing the Ports collection. The installation went well and I have been refamiliarizing myself with Unix CLI commands and reading bits and pieces of documentation here and there. FreeBSD is pretty neat and has quite a few subtle differences from systems I worked on some years back, i.e., Solaris, HP-UX, etc. Anyway, now I would like to install the ports collection without having to reinstall the whole system again, if possible, thus my interest in this thread. For instance, I decided I wanted to install sudo ... snip JR The FreeBSD installation program asks if you want to install the ports JR collection, but what it actually does is install a bunch of directories JR (under /usr/ports) that you can use to browse what's available in the ports JR collection. For example, to download a port, say, Firefox compiled for use JR with the Linux compatibility layer, go into /usr/ports/linux/linux-firefox JR and type: JR $ make install clean Using the above info, I created /usr/ports directory (/usr was there, but not /ports of course as I hadn't installed the Ports collection). I created another directory under /usr/ports/ named /sudo, thus resulting in /usr/ports/sudo. I had mounted the ports CD I have and located sudo-1.6.8p12.tar.gz in the distfiles directory. I copied it over into the /usr/ports/sudo directory, gunzipped it, and then untarred it. I then made sure I was in the directory containing sudo.c and all its attendent other files and tried the above make install clean. Unfortunately it was a no-go. Resultant message I received was: make: Don't know how to make install. Stop Obviously I've done something wrong here ... misstepped or tried to do the impossible, huh? LOL! Perhaps, sudo can only be installed via the pkg-add route per your mention below? I invoked sysinstall, but didn't see right away anything clearly indicating the path to take in resolving my dilemma. I'll keep reading and trying and may be stumble across the proper way to accomplish this, but all the while monitoring this email list for further enlightenment. Then again, may be I should just do a complete new install and select Yes to installing the Ports collection at that time, huh? Nah, one has to mess up to learn! And trust me, I've learned quite a bit by reading yours and others comments and suggestions. Thank for all of you being so willing to share your knowledge. Thanks in advance. P.S. Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of replying. I did a reply all (to both Jeff and the list) for my first submission. However, perhaps I should of only replied to the list to eliminate unnecessary traffic. snip JR ($ stands for the prompt, as you probably know); make reads the Makefile, JR and according to instructions in it, downloads the sources and compiles JR them; make install and make clean (given here in shorthand) respectively JR install the compiled port and clean up after make. JR The alternative way to install software is from packages, which are JR pre-compiled ports. You can use sysinstall to install them, or pkg_add from JR the commandline. Disc2 mostly contains some of these packages (others are on JR Disc1). snip ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On Tuesday 12 September 2006 21:02, ograbme wrote: I had mounted the ports CD I have and located sudo-1.6.8p12.tar.gz in the distfiles directory. I copied it over into the /usr/ports/sudo directory, gunzipped it, and then untarred it. I then made sure I was in the directory containing sudo.c and all its attendent other files and tried the above make install clean. Unfortunately it was a no-go. Resultant message I received was: make: Don't know how to make install. Stop Obviously I've done something wrong here ... misstepped or tried to do the impossible, huh? LOL! Perhaps, The ports collection is a set of recipes that enable the the ports system to automatically fetch the source, extract it, patch it, build and install the result. You can do all this manually, but it's often not straightforward. And the added advantage is that software that's installed through the ports system is also registered in the package database- making it easier to deinstall and upgrade. Before you can build from ports, you need to have ports tree in place, the standard way to do this is by running portsnap. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
Before you can build from ports, you need to have ports tree in place, the standard way to do this is by running portsnap. with the caveat that, at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from CD. OP might be better off loading the ports collection from the same CD set as the rest of the system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
Perry Hutchison wrote: Before you can build from ports, you need to have ports tree in place, the standard way to do this is by running portsnap. with the caveat that, at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from CD. OP might be better off loading the ports collection from the same CD set as the rest of the system. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't complete, as in: not all the ports are there. I stopped installing the ports tree from the install CD a long time ago for that reason. Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re[4]: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On 12/09/06, ograbme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Jeff, First of all ... thanks for your help and suggestions ... please see comments interwoven below. Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 4:20:51 PM, you wrote: snip JR You need to go back into sysinstall and install the ports JR collection. That will give you the framework for downloading JR ports, but you will not be able to install them without network JR access. Understand. JR If you want to install a package, the easiest way without JR network access is to go back into sysinstall and choose it from JR the Packages item. But, if the package you want is not available JR on the FreeBSD install discs (if you need to eject one and insert JR the other, it will tell you to), and you don't have a network JR connection, I'm afraid you're out of luck. This is the approach I took. All looked like it was going well until the point of needing to switch cdroms. Couldn't do it. My cdrom would not eject so I could switch CDROMs. Not sure what the problem was/is, but got to thinking because it was mounted, i.e., mount /cdrom manually initially by me before starting the sysinstall command. Anyone I just ignored trying to install those packages that I had selected and eventually finished up, but when finished, I could not find the /usr/ports directory ... even though sysinstall reported individually the selected packages were installed properly during the process. Oh well, something went awry. I'll try again with hopefully only selecting items from one cdrom to try to control the process in that regard and see if I experience the same result. JR If there's nothing else wrong with your system, you don't JR need to reinstall; just type sysinstall as the root user and JR you're in. I cannot with certainly vouch there is nothing wrong with my system. It hasn't locked up; it hasn't conked out on me; I've been able to do a number of things (albeit they are cursory type things ... nothing big ... executing various Unix commands, creating a few small C programs and compiling them with gcc tool, etc) thus far, without incident. JR BTW, I would delete your manually-created /usr/ports JR directory and everything in it, just in case. I did this prior to the above steps. The release I have installed is FreeBSD 6.1 Release #0 May 07 ... perhaps this is part of the problems I'm experiencing. I bought the FreeBSD Mall 4 CDROM, May 2006 set. May be I need to try to get a newer version. I think I saw where there is some release #2 mentioned by various list members. I suppose I could download it from the web site and burn it. I'd only need the first cdrom, right? Thanks in advance. While I may not be making leaps and bounds, I do feel I'm making some headway! Take care. This sounds like a bug to me; before you do anything else I would: 1. Make sure there is no /usr/ports directory; 2. Insert the FBSD CDROM, *without mounting it* 3. Run sysinstall and attempt to install the ports tree again. If this doesn't work, I would download the FBSD 6.1 CD from a mirror (it was 6.1 you were using, wasn't it?), burn it, and reinstall. If you are sure you don't need any packages from CD2, you can forgo downloading and burning that one. In fact if you have the net connection (and the patience), you can download a bootonly iso that, when used to boot the system, downloads everything else needed from the net. HTH (especially as if it does not, I'm out of ideas! :-/) BTW, if you DO end up reinstalling, make sure you reformat your partitions, as I have sometimes run out of space when attempting to reinstall on partitions with data still on them. Jeff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
... at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from CD. That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't complete, as in: not all the ports are there. Any idea why? (I am referring to the ports tree itself, i.e. the collection of skeleton directories. The set of distfiles provided on CDs 3 and 4 is necessarily incomplete, both due to limited space and because some distfiles have legal restrictions that prevent their inclusion.) I stopped installing the ports tree from the install CD a long time ago for that reason. Perhaps sysinstall's rather strong recommendation to install the ports ought to be toned down a bit, e.g. to suggest installing the ports from CD only if one does not have a high-speed Internet connection. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
Perry Hutchison wrote: ... at least in my recent experience, an up-to-date ports tree does not always play nicely with a not-updated base install from CD. That's very interesting. However, the ports tree on the CD isn't complete, as in: not all the ports are there. Any idea why? (I am referring to the ports tree itself, i.e. the collection of skeleton directories. The set of distfiles provided on CDs 3 and 4 is necessarily incomplete, both due to limited space and because some distfiles have legal restrictions that prevent their inclusion.) I stopped installing the ports tree from the install CD a long time ago for that reason. Perhaps sysinstall's rather strong recommendation to install the ports ought to be toned down a bit, e.g. to suggest installing the ports from CD only if one does not have a high-speed Internet connection. You've asked a question, given some clarification as to what you are referring to, and I can tell you I don't have anything other than possibilities - which may be far from the truth - as to why this is. You're referring to a 4 CD set, that can't be downloaded from FreeBSD.org, that has to come from somewhere else, such as the FreeBSD Mall or somewhere else. I would use that if I couldn't connect to the Internet at all. Maybe, I should say: I can't tell you why it is that way. I've never been very concerned about it, just understood that it was that way and lived with it. I've never had a problem with an up-to-date ports tree not playing nicely with a RELEASE or a STABLE install. I suspect the reason is that I just never happened to up-date the ports tree at a time when there were problems. It does happen at times, but then... You've probably heard the advice somethings wrong with your ports tree, blow it off and re-install it. It's not a big problem to deal with, the problem comes when you need to do it and don't. Sysinstall only asks if you want to install the ports tree. If I was going to update it with cvsup, I would install it from there. I use portsnap, so I don't install it from the CD. Yes, I have a hi-speed connection. It makes things easier. I wouldn't be without it. Don ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The Ports collection / FreeBSD CDs
On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 04:02:33PM -0400, ograbme wrote: Howdie Jeff (if I may) and others, Tuesday, September 12, 2006, 6:41:38 AM, you wrote: JR On 12/09/06, Arindam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I chose not to install the ports collection because as of now, I do not have access to Internet in my home-network and it would take a little while before I can set it up for browsing. snip I too took this same approach as the box I installed FreeBSD 6.1 Release is not hooked up to the Internet. I bypassed installing the Ports collection. The installation went well and I have been refamiliarizing myself with Unix CLI commands and reading bits and pieces of documentation here and there. FreeBSD is pretty neat and has quite a few subtle differences from systems I worked on some years back, i.e., Solaris, HP-UX, etc. Anyway, now I would like to install the ports collection without having to reinstall the whole system again, if possible, thus my interest in this thread. For instance, I decided I wanted to install sudo ... snip JR The FreeBSD installation program asks if you want to install the ports JR collection, but what it actually does is install a bunch of directories JR (under /usr/ports) that you can use to browse what's available in the ports JR collection. For example, to download a port, say, Firefox compiled for use JR with the Linux compatibility layer, go into /usr/ports/linux/linux-firefox JR and type: JR $ make install clean Using the above info, I created /usr/ports directory (/usr was there, but not /ports of course as I hadn't installed the Ports collection). I created another directory under /usr/ports/ named /sudo, thus resulting in /usr/ports/sudo. I had mounted the ports CD I have and located sudo-1.6.8p12.tar.gz in the distfiles directory. I copied it over into the /usr/ports/sudo directory, gunzipped it, and then untarred it. I then made sure I was in the directory containing sudo.c and all its attendent other files and tried the above make install clean. Unfortunately it was a no-go. Resultant message I received was: make: Don't know how to make install. Stop Obviously I've done something wrong here ... misstepped or tried to do the impossible, huh? LOL! Perhaps, sudo can only be installed via the pkg-add route per your mention below? I invoked sysinstall, but didn't see right away anything clearly indicating the path to take in resolving my dilemma. I'll keep reading and trying and may be stumble across the proper way to accomplish this, but all the while monitoring this email list for further enlightenment. Then again, may be I should just do a complete new install and select Yes to installing the Ports collection at that time, huh? Nah, one has to mess up to learn! And trust me, I've learned quite a bit by reading yours and others comments and suggestions. Thank for all of you being so willing to share your knowledge. Thanks in advance. Go grab the compressed, reasonably up to date ports tree: $ fetch -dpv ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/ports/ports.tar.gz (warning! 35MB compressed) and: # mv ports.tar.gz /usr/ports # cd /usr/ports # tar xvzf ports.tar.gz to build sudo, first check that there's nothing funny with building sudo: $ cat /usr/ports/UPDATING | grep sudo if there's nothing then: # cd /usr/ports/security/sudo/ # make install clean Then read the handbook about keeping your ports tree up to date using portsnap or cvsup. P.S. Please advise what the proper mode of responding is in terms of replying. I did a reply all (to both Jeff and the list) for my first submission. However, perhaps I should of only replied to the list to eliminate unnecessary traffic. snip That's OK. I usually post to the list and cc to the person who posted in the first place as they may not be subscribed to the list. Welcome to FreeBSD! -- Frank echo f r a n k @ e s p e r a n c e - l i n u x . c o . u k | sed 's/ //g' ---PGP keyID: 0x10BD6F4B--- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
