Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
Florian Xaver escreveu: Why does most people like GRUB? I don't like it. :-) I think, there are many better boot-managers. I can answer for myself: I don't like it, I just have in in my machine ;-) Let me explain: I use Mandrive Linux which just give me 2 choices: Lilo or Grub. Unless I were willing to spend a lot of time learning to install something else and never use the crash recover capabilities, I am stuck with it. I just could not find in LILO how to change active partition at boot time (for Fdos/win98 boot) and swap partitions (needed for WinXP). So I am stuck with GRUB, which BTW works just fine and the later version has a better look :) Alain Hi Alain: The Linux installers I've used have an option to install their boot manager (either Lilo or Grub typically) in the / partition instead of the MBR. If you install them that way, you can use any boot manager in the MBR and that boot loader starts GRUB or LILO. This is what I do on my machines that boot Linux. I use GAG installed in the MBR as the boot manager and GRUB is started from the / partition. I find configuring GRUB just too much trouble! GAG is open source (GPL) and available from gag.sourceforge.net. Mark - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On 2007-06-09, Florian Xaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does most people like GRUB? Because it was easier to use than LILO. I don't like it. :-) I think, there are many better boot-managers. Possibly. Grub inherited the standard Linux bootloader crown from LILO, so there are a lot of people who've learned how to use Grub. At least for what I've needed to do, Grub has always been good enough (there were cases when LILO wasn't). For real world products, being better doesn't win. Being the first one who's good enough wins. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm ZIPPY!! Are we at having FUN yet?? visi.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 01:38:30 +, you wrote: I like the open source program GAG for this. It doesn't require a partition and I find it MUCH easier to set up and configure than GRUB. It isn't quite as pretty, but you only see it for a few seconds. Thanks Mark. Still using your multi-OS boot CD, works great! GRUB too complex for me. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
Why does most people like GRUB? I don't like it. :-) I think, there are many better boot-managers. Bye On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 03:38:30 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like the open source program GAG for this. It doesn't require a partition and I find it MUCH easier to set up and configure than GRUB. It isn't quite as pretty, but you only see it for a few seconds. gag.sourceforge.net Mark -- Original message -- From: Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can do this with any sufficiently-capable boot manager. I used to use V Communications' System Commander, once upon a time. Don't know if it's still available. Used to be fairly cheap: about $40 (US). There are probably lots of other commercial utilities you can find at a Best Buy or similar place, if he wants something that comes as shrink-wrapped software. The open source ($0) XOSL does this too, I think. As you mentioned, so does GRUB. -jh On 6/8/07, Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Install Freedos on the second primary partition. Yep, that's what I should have done. The HOWTO sure gave the imporession that it would automagically share a parition. I'll probably jsut shrink the FreeDOS FAT partition and dual-boot Linux. It's easy on Linux, specially with grub. The trick is: have two primary partitions, one of them active, none hidden. There is a command in GRUB to change tha active partition on the fly prior to boot. The advantage is that nothing needs to be special, each run in C: and the other is still available (at the last letter) Alain - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Using Arachne, the smallest and smartest browser in the world. It is true, that no one can essentially cultivate exact science without understanding the mathematics of that science. But we are not to suppose that the calculations and equations that mathematicians find so useful constitute the whole of mathematics. The calculus is but a part of mathematics. (James Clerk Maxwell) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
Windows ME is a strange beast. Seems it failed miserably. Nice thing about Windows ME was that it doesn't require validation like XP does. It must only be about 7 years old, but there's no support for it. Just as well perhaps, seems like Windows ME had an identity crisis. It wasn't exactly dos based Windows and yet it wasn't NT either. I think an end of life Windows 98 carrying dos real mode support forward would have been better anyways. Did 98SE and ME come out about the same time? I don't think that Windows ME has support for real mode dos. I experienced ME for a whole 2 days. When it blue screened on me, I tried to replace it with Linux. When X wouldn't work, the HP celeron system it came on went back to Fred's and I got a refund. I hear that a lot of ME users migrated to XP. Indeed, XP Home upgrade is advertised as an, upgrade for Windows 98SE. On the subject of seemingly dead releases of Windows, how about Windows CE? Michael Robinson - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On Friday 08 June 2007 18:50, someone wrote: Windows ME is a strange beast. Seems it failed miserably. Nice thing about Windows ME was that it doesn't require validation like XP does. It must only be about 7 years old, but there's no support for it. Just as well perhaps, seems like Windows ME had an identity crisis. It wasn't exactly dos based Windows and yet it wasn't NT either. I think an end of life Windows 98 carrying dos real mode support forward would have been better anyways. A very strange beast indeed. It was a Win9x masquerading as an NT-class OS, and consequently, neither fish nor flesh, but definitely foul. Did 98SE and ME come out about the same time? I don't think that Windows ME has support for real mode dos. 98SE came out some time in 1999=2000, I think - though I wasn't a Microsoft watcher at the time. It had support for real-mode DOS, except that support was internal to the kernel, and wasn't available for the user. I experienced ME for a whole 2 days. When it blue screened on me, I tried to replace it with Linux. When X wouldn't work, the HP celeron system it came on went back to Fred's and I got a refund. I hear that a lot of ME users migrated to XP. Indeed, XP Home upgrade is advertised as an, upgrade for Windows 98SE. 98SE was the ideal upgrade for WinME, if you didn't have the money for the hardware upgrade to make your box XP-friendly. I've upgraded a sister's computer from WinME to 98SE, and they were very, very happy about that. On the subject of seemingly dead releases of Windows, how about Windows CE? How about Windows Vista? ;) Michael Robinson - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - Gaul is quartered into three halves. Things which are impossible are equal to each other. Guerrilla warfare means up to their monkey tricks. Extracts from Schoolboy Howlers - the collective wisdom of the foolish. - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On 2007-06-08, someone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Windows ME is a strange beast. Seems it failed miserably. Nice thing about Windows ME was that it doesn't require validation like XP does. When I finally gave up on WinMe, I switched to Win2K instead of XP for precisely that reason. Did 98SE and ME come out about the same time? About a year apart, IIRC. I don't think that Windows ME has support for real mode dos. I thought it was basically the same as 98se in that respect, but I might be wrong. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Is this my STOP?? at visi.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On 2007-06-08, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-06-08, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost none of the other DOS software I've installed is working (a sh/ksh clone, a bunch of Unix utilities, etc.). Doh! I botched one step of the install process for the shell and utils (the TMP env variable wasn't pointing to a directory that actually existed). That was causing a whole bunch of odd and apparently unrelated failures -- that's fixed... I thought maybe correcting the value of TMP would fix vim's inability to save files, but it seems not. Everytime I try to save a file I get an error message like this: \home\profile.sh E212: Can't open file for writing I have write permission for /home/profile.sh and other editors (freemacs, edit) have no problem writing to that file. I'm an emacs user not a vi user, so vi not working isn't slowing me down any, but I thought I'd report it anyway. It's vim 7.0, BTW. For any other unix geeks out there, I'm fairly impressed with ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/gnuish/ms_sh/ It's not _quite_ Gnu bash et. al., but it's pretty comfortable (now all I have to do is figure out how to fix that damned caps-lock key...). -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I request a weekend in at Havana with Phil Silvers! visi.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
You can do this with any sufficiently-capable boot manager. I used to use V Communications' System Commander, once upon a time. Don't know if it's still available. Used to be fairly cheap: about $40 (US). There are probably lots of other commercial utilities you can find at a Best Buy or similar place, if he wants something that comes as shrink-wrapped software. The open source ($0) XOSL does this too, I think. As you mentioned, so does GRUB. -jh On 6/8/07, Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Install Freedos on the second primary partition. Yep, that's what I should have done. The HOWTO sure gave the imporession that it would automagically share a parition. I'll probably jsut shrink the FreeDOS FAT partition and dual-boot Linux. It's easy on Linux, specially with grub. The trick is: have two primary partitions, one of them active, none hidden. There is a command in GRUB to change tha active partition on the fly prior to boot. The advantage is that nothing needs to be special, each run in C: and the other is still available (at the last letter) Alain - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
Grant Edwards escreveu: (now all I have to do is figure out how to fix that damned caps-lock key...). What do you want to do? Alain - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
XOSL is very good, has a very nice GUI... the only problem is, that it must have a FAT16/32 partition, BUT... after some years I decided to create an extra small partition for boot managers. It is saver ;-) Bye Flo On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:27:49 +0200, Robert Riebisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Hall wrote: The open source ($0) XOSL does this too, I think. As you mentioned, so does GRUB. ...or try http://www.bttr-software.de/bootmgr/ ;-) Robert Riebisch -- Using Arachne, the smallest and smartest browser in the world. It is true, that no one can essentially cultivate exact science without understanding the mathematics of that science. But we are not to suppose that the calculations and equations that mathematicians find so useful constitute the whole of mathematics. The calculus is but a part of mathematics. (James Clerk Maxwell) - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On 2007-06-08, Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Edwards escreveu: (now all I have to do is figure out how to fix that damned caps-lock key...). What do you want to do? I want it to be a control key. I'm pretty sure that keyb can do that, but I'm still reading through all of the docs and trying to find KL files somewhere. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! The Korean War must at have been fun. visi.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
I like the open source program GAG for this. It doesn't require a partition and I find it MUCH easier to set up and configure than GRUB. It isn't quite as pretty, but you only see it for a few seconds. gag.sourceforge.net Mark -- Original message -- From: Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can do this with any sufficiently-capable boot manager. I used to use V Communications' System Commander, once upon a time. Don't know if it's still available. Used to be fairly cheap: about $40 (US). There are probably lots of other commercial utilities you can find at a Best Buy or similar place, if he wants something that comes as shrink-wrapped software. The open source ($0) XOSL does this too, I think. As you mentioned, so does GRUB. -jh On 6/8/07, Alain M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Install Freedos on the second primary partition. Yep, that's what I should have done. The HOWTO sure gave the imporession that it would automagically share a parition. I'll probably jsut shrink the FreeDOS FAT partition and dual-boot Linux. It's easy on Linux, specially with grub. The trick is: have two primary partitions, one of them active, none hidden. There is a command in GRUB to change tha active partition on the fly prior to boot. The advantage is that nothing needs to be special, each run in C: and the other is still available (at the last letter) Alain - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On 2007-06-06, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to install FreeDOS 1.0 folling the HOWTO and it appears to have failed rather miserably: 1) The HOWTO says it will create a boot menu that will allow me to dual-boot. It didn't. I can no-longer boot WinMe. I wiped the WinMe partition and installed FreeDOS from scratch. 2) No editors. emacs can't find it's .ed files, and none of the vi clones is anywhere to be found despite my having selected them during install. emacs still doesn't work (no .ed files found), but there's a vi at least there's a clone now. 3) Two crashes in the first two minutes: No crashes since the re-install. My conclusion is that FreeDOS can't easily share a parition with Win9x. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'd like some JUNK at FOOD ... and then I want to visi.combe ALONE -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
For freemacs/emacs, set the EMACS environment variable to point to where emacs .ed files are installed. For example: SET EMACS=C:\FDOS\EMACS It's possible this didn't get set for you. Alternatively, try doing a CD into the directory where emacs is installed, and see if it runs (it should). -jh On 6/7/07, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007-06-06, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried to install FreeDOS 1.0 folling the HOWTO and it appears to have failed rather miserably: 1) The HOWTO says it will create a boot menu that will allow me to dual-boot. It didn't. I can no-longer boot WinMe. I wiped the WinMe partition and installed FreeDOS from scratch. 2) No editors. emacs can't find it's .ed files, and none of the vi clones is anywhere to be found despite my having selected them during install. emacs still doesn't work (no .ed files found), but there's a vi at least there's a clone now. 3) Two crashes in the first two minutes: No crashes since the re-install. My conclusion is that FreeDOS can't easily share a parition with Win9x. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On 2007-06-07, Jim Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For freemacs/emacs, set the EMACS environment variable to point to where emacs .ed files are installed. There aren't any .ed files -- not that I can find, anyway. Once I get some real file utilities installed (e.g. a proper find) maybe I'll be able to find them. For example: SET EMACS=C:\FDOS\EMACS There are no .ed files in that directory. It's possible this didn't get set for you. Alternatively, try doing a CD into the directory where emacs is installed, and see if it runs (it should). I tried that. Same problem: no .ed files found. I've found another lightweight emacs clone for DOS that I'm going to try instead. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! HUMAN REPLICAS are at inserted into VATS of visi.comNUTRITIONAL YEAST ... - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On 2007-06-07, someone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: Hard drives are cheap these days, consider installing Windows 9x and Freedos on separate physical hard drives and using a drive tray to switch back and forth at least during the setup stage. It's a laptop, and the hard drive is difficult to get to. My conclusion is that FreeDOS can't easily share a parition with Win9x. It can, but it doesn't need to, and setup can be a little tricky. I don't recommend this. Install Windows 9x. Create a Windows boot disk. Boot 9x in MS-DOS mode and use fips to reduce the Windows partition to make room for Freedos. ** Open an extra 32 megs for XOSL later. ** Reboot. Install Freedos on the second primary partition. Yep, that's what I should have done. The HOWTO sure gave the imporession that it would automagically share a parition. I'll probably jsut shrink the FreeDOS FAT partition and dual-boot Linux. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! ... My pants just went at on a wild rampage through a visi.comLong Island Bowling Alley!! - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
3) Two crashes in the first two minutes: No crashes since the re-install. My conclusion is that FreeDOS can't easily share a parition with Win9x. Real mode msdos was discontinued in WinMe/NT/2k/XP. The problm I had when installing freedos on an existing win partition is that it had tendancy to load wrong files (command.com), and had to set path and move things around a bit to make it work good. I do not recommend installing freedos on same partiton as windows, but recommend install dos first,then windows as a second partition then linux on remaining disk space. (triboot) ocymmv. I wiped the WinMe partition and installed FreeDOS from scratch. Hopefully you didnt lose your personal data dirs, one thinking about is a nas server for the network and schedule daily backups it. --chris http://nxdos.souceforge.net/ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
Hi someone, Grant, there is no need to use separate partitions or even harddisks for Win9x/Me and FreeDOS. The trick is that both use FAT and both use the same drive letters, but Win9x/Me and FreeDOS use different file names for kernel and config. FreeDOS looks at fdconfig dot sys first, and only if none is found, it uses config dot sys. Via the SHELL line there, you can tell each OS which command.com and which autoexec file it has to use :-). If you combine those things, all you need is a boot menu which loads either the Win9x/Me or the FreeDOS kernel. This can be done for example with MetaKern, which needs the boot sectors of both OSes as configuration. Installation is a bit tricky but it is scriptable... Actually FreeDOS tries to auto- matically install MetaKern when it detects that it has to share C: with another OS, but the detection might sometimes fail. Eric - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On 2007-06-07, chris evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) Two crashes in the first two minutes: No crashes since the re-install. My conclusion is that FreeDOS can't easily share a parition with Win9x. Real mode msdos was discontinued in WinMe/NT/2k/XP. The problm I had when installing freedos on an existing win partition is that it had tendancy to load wrong files (command.com), and had to set path and move things around a bit to make it work good. I do not recommend installing freedos on same partiton as windows, but recommend install dos first,then windows as a second partition then linux on remaining disk space. (triboot) ocymmv. The clean install isn't working very well either. Almost none of the other DOS software I've installed is working (a sh/ksh clone, a bunch of Unix utilities, etc.). I'm afraid I don't really have time to mess with it any more. I wiped the WinMe partition and installed FreeDOS from scratch. Hopefully you didnt lose your personal data dirs, one thinking about is a nas server for the network and schedule daily backups it. I didn't have any important data in the WinMe partition. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! We're going to a at new disco! visi.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Installed on top of WinMe: system unusable.
On 2007-06-08, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost none of the other DOS software I've installed is working (a sh/ksh clone, a bunch of Unix utilities, etc.). Doh! I botched one step of the install process for the shell and utils (the TMP env variable wasn't pointing to a directory that actually existed). That was causing a whole bunch of odd and apparently unrelated failures -- that's fixed... After starting up emacs in c:/fdos/emacs a couple times, it's now working (not sure why that didn't work for the first install). I sure whish I hadn't thrown out my copy of MKS toolkit years ago -- though I don't know if I even have a 5-1/4 floppy drive anywhere (or if those ~20 year old floppies would still be readable). The free ksh/utils (the ones from Ian Stewartson) seem to be working OK now. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I Know A Joke!! at visi.com - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
