Re: Duplicate User Account
George Hozendorf wrote: On Jan 13, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Clark Martin wrote: George Hozendorf wrote: On Jan 9, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Clark Martin wrote: George Hozendorf wrote: Is there a way to duplicate a User Account? I'm setting up a machine for my girlfriend. Instead of reinventing the wheel, it would be snip-- Don't forget to create a separate account for your girl friends to send to! :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New RAM DVD Burner slow down (was....)
To see if you have bad ram you can put one stick in the first slot and take out the rest. Then start the computer and see if it works. Then turn off the computer and do the same with the second stick of ram. Then put the first stick of ram in the second slot and turn on the computer, then the second stick. If one of the pieces of ram or one of the slots is bad this will tell you. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote: Okay... here's what I've done so far. I ran memtest in single user mode, no problems found. I reran it on a regular restart, no problems found. I used the Hardware Test from the Restore DVD, no problems found. Internal DVD burner accepts 8x burn in preferences but still refuses to burn faster than 1x/2x with both Toast 9.0.2 and Disk Utility. Hooked up Firewire DVD burner... burns discs (same brand/spool) at 8x and even 12x and 16x in both Toast 9.0.2 and Disk Utility. Retried internal burner and nothing changed from the 1x/2x maximum actual burn. Does any of this disprove bad RAM or prove ??? It's a refurbished machine, 9 days with me. I burned maybe 10 DVDs prior to changing the RAM, all at 8x. I noticed the problem after upgrading from the 2x1GB sticks to 2x2GB RAM chips from OWC, using their branded RAM. http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/6400DDR2S4MP/ Tomorrow I'm going to clone the drive and reinstall the OS plus Toast to see if I get the same results on the internal drive but if I don't have to because someone sees a hint all the more better. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
I agree that Apple will most likely succeed when Jobs is gone and that Apple is 10,000 people. However: in 94-97 (Or whenever he was not ther), Apple lost focus on who it was and was in serious trouble (from Jobs himself), which is what is striking fear into a lot of people about Jobs leaving now. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Part of the problem is that way too many people associate everything about Apple (from Day 1 of the company) with Steve Jobs. They don't give credit to others who have been part of all that is Apple, preferring to think its all coming from the mind of Steve Jobs. Who invented the various iPods? In the eyes of the masses Steve Jobs did. iMac? Again, they feel it was Steve Jobs iBook? Why, Steve Jobs of course! MacBook/MacBook Pro? Steve Jobs did! iPhone? That was Steve Jobs again! I know of people who, when I say Steve Wozniak (of even just Woz) when referring to my older Apples (][e's and a //c) say Who? and its only when I say he and Steve Jobs started Apple that they know what I am talking about. They admit that they only associate Steve Jobs with Apple because thats all we hear about these days. The news the other night mentioned he was a founder of Apple Computer and the photo they showed was not the familiar one of him and Woz with the original Apple but one of just Steve Jobs with an early computer. This will just further the belief for some people that Steve Jobs = Apple On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: You are exactly right - it is the same problem the wonderful beach band known as the Beach Boys has had by failing to allow new, younger members to gradually overtake the band, replacing the older members and continuing with the band; sure the sound will change a little, but by and large, it will live on, just as Apple will change a little with new leadership. We hope, with new leadership, they will stop shooting their foot over and over again, but that will be told in time. It is timely that number 44 is about to lead us, thank God we move on to new leadership and survive; change is good! JML --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Steve Jobs Oh My To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:46 AM This may be good fortune for Apple. Hear me out before you want to lynch-mob me. This situation actually may help Apple out by giving another person the chance to step up and become recognized before Jobs does retire. This probably will get Apple consumers and investors used to the Idea of another CEO before Jobs suddenly retires. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: I hope he gets better soon, such a unique individual. Just needed to vent. I also have some Apple stock - groan. __ Perhaps of interest; http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11498tag=nl.e539 -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Awaken w/User Choice
How do I get a window showing the Users when the computer wakes up, instead of a sign in for the previous user? George Mac OS X 10.5.6 Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New RAM DVD Burner slow down (was....)
At 1:24 AM -0500 1/17/2009, Steve R wrote: I'm confused. Why exactly do you think a bad stick of memory would cause one DVD burner to talk at a lower speed while the other DVD burner is fine? Are you seeing error messages from the kernel in system log screaming about soft memory errors? (Hard memory errors result in kernel panics). This sounds to me like you're trying to blame the speedometer for a flat tire. I ran memtest in single user mode, no problems found. Then the memory is probably fine. I reran it on a regular restart, A total waste of time -- the point of using Memtest in single user mode is that it is able to test MORE of the memory. Running it after a normal boot is kindof like checking only one shelf in the refrig for rotten food then declaring the whole refrig is 100% stink free. Internal DVD burner accepts 8x burn in preferences but still refuses to burn faster than 1x/2x with both Toast 9.0.2 and Disk Utility. What internal DVD burner? Is this the stock burner that came with the machine or something you added? Details please! Hooked up Firewire DVD burner... burns discs (same brand/spool) at 8x and even 12x and 16x in both Toast 9.0.2 and Disk Utility Ok. That's good. It means that both utilities think your Mac is fast enough to handle the higher burn speeds. So that's not the problem. Does any of this disprove bad RAM or prove ??? Passed memtest so the memory is most likely fine. It's a refurbished machine, 9 days with me. I burned maybe 10 DVDs prior to changing the RAM, all at 8x. Ah. So this is a NEW symptom created AFTER you were inside the machine (which you still haven't said what is). Might be a good idea to reseat the DVD drive cables and such. Tomorrow I'm going to clone the drive and reinstall the OS plus Toast Concentrate on the DVD drive. Don't go replacing the floor mats just because you have an engine problem. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Kernel Panic on Cube
There are consistent reports that OSX is 'finicky' about memory. Are you close enough that you might borrow some 'other' DIMMs from a friend, and try different memory? I'm not aware of Memory test programs runnable under OS9. [But there must be some.] Chuck D. On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:34 AM, Vic Mabus wrote: Help! I've always admired the aesthetic design of the Cube, which came out right after I bought my first Sawtooth (figures). I've watched the prices for years, anticipating the day when it would fall below the You paid how much? threshold. Having arranged a swap, I've got my Cube, nicely upgraded with a GeForce 6200 256 Mb video card. I suspect this to be the source of my trouble. The thing will run OS 9, but KPs when booted from any OS X installer disc (I've tried several different versions). I see Tiger as the best OS for this machine, but my efforts to install it have yet to bear fruit. I tried target mode from the Sawtooth, and the installer ran fine, but KP again on reboot. Just to see, I tried a boot from my LaCie Quadra (where do they find these names?), which contains the back-up from my MacBookPro (10.5.6). Boots and runs, although not in a usable manner with a 450 MHz processor (1.5 GB RAM). Is video handled that much differently in Leopard, compared to Tiger, to make the difference? I can't help but suspect the video card to be the culprit, having had similar experience with a flashed PC card that I got on eBay for my Sawtooth. My only other idea would be to install Tiger to the Quadra, boot from that, and clone to the Cube, but that seems a little silly... Thanx for your ideas/suggestions, V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
How do you change type in Finder?
Desk top finder font is hard to read and see, how do you change it in 10.2 and 10.4? -- PowerPC G3 Beige Table Top 266 MHz box AND G4 450 MHz box with OS 8.1-9.2, X 10.2.8. AGP Graphics on a card. Both are connected by 4 port LinkSys BEFSR41. 99% of the time I am Netscape 7.2. 12 Gb hd in 4Gb and 8Gb partitions and external 4Gb in 4 1Gb partitions. 470 Mb, Zip, fd, DVD/cd Drive, all are Apple branded. === --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seagate HD firmware update
At 9:37 AM -0600 1/17/09, Kris Tilford wrote: Slashdot had an update on the issue that causes some Seagate HDs to have problems: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/17/0115207 Cool! I have two that I bought to upgrade my G4 1.42 DP :( Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you change type in Finder?
At 7:24 AM -0800 1/17/2009, Jonas Lopez wrote: Desk top finder font is hard to read and see, how do you change it in 10.2 and 10.4? You can pick the point size from the get-info windows. And from System Prefs Appearance, you can tweak the anti-aliasing (smoothing). FWIW, I use 14pt ... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seagate HD firmware update
Reading over the articles, am I correct to say: the Seagate drives affected are the SATAs (7200.11) and not PATAs? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: How do you change type in Finder?
On 17 Jan 2009, at 08:05:23 PST, Dan wrote: At 7:24 AM -0800 1/17/2009, Jonas Lopez wrote: Desk top finder font is hard to read and see, how do you change it in 10.2 and 10.4? You can pick the point size from the get-info windows. And from System Prefs Appearance, you can tweak the anti-aliasing (smoothing). FWIW, I use 14pt ... --- Hmmm. I believe you can go to the View choice of the menu bar. There you can select View Options where you can set the point size of the text labels of the various icons. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
I should preface this by saying that most women think differently than some men.They have to to ride the waves of day to day life. I am very fond of Apple computers as I have just discovered them. I hope they survive. I don't know if Mr Jobs has noticed but the younger generation has been doing computers since they were tots and are quite good. The best computer person I ever met had been using computers since he was four and started building them at 12. He was 17 when I met him and earning as much as me,an adult, at a part time job fixing computers. He was a trouble shooter for Gateway. He was going to college in the fall. For his own sanity Mr Jobs has to realize that we are all dispensable. The next morning after he quits,someone will be doing his job. It may take them a while to be as good as he is as experience does matter but we are all dispensable. If we are lucky we have balanced our job and home life to ease the transition from work to retirement. I hope Mr Jobs ' health improves so he can stay on. He is obviously not ready to retire. --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Steve Jobs Oh My To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 4:21 AM I agree that Apple will most likely succeed when Jobs is gone and that Apple is 10,000 people. However: in 94-97 (Or whenever he was not ther), Apple lost focus on who it was and was in serious trouble (from Jobs himself), which is what is striking fear into a lot of people about Jobs leaving now. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Part of the problem is that way too many people associate everything about Apple (from Day 1 of the company) with Steve Jobs. They don't give credit to others who have been part of all that is Apple, preferring to think its all coming from the mind of Steve Jobs. Who invented the various iPods? In the eyes of the masses Steve Jobs did. iMac? Again, they feel it was Steve Jobs iBook? Why, Steve Jobs of course! MacBook/MacBook Pro? Steve Jobs did! iPhone? That was Steve Jobs again! I know of people who, when I say Steve Wozniak (of even just Woz) when referring to my older Apples (][e's and a //c) say Who? and its only when I say he and Steve Jobs started Apple that they know what I am talking about. They admit that they only associate Steve Jobs with Apple because thats all we hear about these days. The news the other night mentioned he was a founder of Apple Computer and the photo they showed was not the familiar one of him and Woz with the original Apple but one of just Steve Jobs with an early computer. This will just further the belief for some people that Steve Jobs = Apple On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: You are exactly right - it is the same problem the wonderful beach band known as the Beach Boys has had by failing to allow new, younger members to gradually overtake the band, replacing the older members and continuing with the band; sure the sound will change a little, but by and large, it will live on, just as Apple will change a little with new leadership. We hope, with new leadership, they will stop shooting their foot over and over again, but that will be told in time. It is timely that number 44 is about to lead us, thank God we move on to new leadership and survive; change is good! JML --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Steve Jobs Oh My To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:46 AM This may be good fortune for Apple. Hear me out before you want to lynch-mob me. This situation actually may help Apple out by giving another person the chance to step up and become recognized before Jobs does retire. This probably will get Apple consumers and investors used to the Idea of another CEO before Jobs suddenly retires. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: I hope he gets better soon, such a unique individual. Just needed to vent. I also have some Apple stock - groan. __ Perhaps of interest; http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=11498tag=nl.e539 -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because
Re: New RAM DVD Burner slow down (was....)
At 9:58 AM -0500 1/17/09, Dan posted: At 1:24 AM -0500 1/17/2009, Steve R wrote: I'm confused. Why exactly do you think a bad stick of memory would cause one DVD burner to talk at a lower speed while the other DVD burner is fine? Are you seeing error messages from the kernel in system log screaming about soft memory errors? (Hard memory errors result in kernel panics). This sounds to me like you're trying to blame the speedometer for a flat tire. At 10:10 AM -0700 1/16/09, Bruce Johnson posted: On Jan 16, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Steve R wrote: I burned at second disc at 6x but Toast still burned 1x/2x. Is there any reason whatsoever changing RAM should have affected burning speeds? Should/Could I have done a PRAM reset on the restart? Sadly yes, bad ram could be doing that. Get memtest http://www.memtestosx.org/ and run it doing the long version of the test. and At 2:33 PM -0500 1/16/09, insightinmind posted: On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:41 AM, Steve R wrote: At 4:22 PM -0800 1/15/09, glen posted: Unless(!) Last night I was burning a disc with similar files I'd burned before changing out the RAM. Using the same blanks that had previously burned at 8X, Toast was burning at a slow 1x/2x even though the setting was for 8x. I burned at second disc at 6x but Toast still burned 1x/2x. Is there any reason whatsoever changing RAM should have affected burning speeds? Should/Could I have done a PRAM reset on the restart? I had bad RAM influence my QS 10.5 system to suggest my DVD RW drive was bad ... it works fine in another machine, and probably would do the same in the QS now that I removed the bad RAM. Dan, Based on Bruce's recommendation and glen's real world experience, I was running memtest to see if the speedometer was indeed responsible for the flat tyre. My neighbour returned the original OEM RAM this morning so I could test the original RAM to see if the internal DVD burner would go back to burning 8x. It did, in both Disk Utility and Toast so I'll be returning the OWC branded RAM for replacement with a different manufacturer's RAM, regardless of what the results were with memtest. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seagate HD firmware update
On Jan 17, 2009, at 7:51 AM, diane wrote: Slashdot had an update on the issue that causes some Seagate HDs to have problems: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/17/0115207 Barracuda 7200.11s which are affected include: ST31000340AS 1 TB, 340 series ST31000640AS 1 TB, 640 series ST3750330AS 750 GB, 330 series ST3750630AS 750 GB, 630 series ST3640330AS 640 GB, 330 series ST3640630AS 640 GB, 630 series ST3500320AS 500 GB, 320 series ST3500620AS 500 GB, 620 series ST3500820AS 500 GB, 820 series ST31500341AS 1.5 TB, 341 series ST31000333AS 1 TB, 333 series (supposedly Seagate's latest and greatest) ST3640323AS 640 GB, 323 series ST3640623AS 640 GB, 623 series ST3320613AS 320 GB, 613 series ST3320813AS 320 GB, 813 series ST3160813AS 160 GB, 813 series I have numerous 1000s installed, but none are from the affected firmware group. Firmware SD15 is supposedly good. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
Hi, I understand the sentiment, but would like to note that some people are sort of irreplaceable... at least immediately. Certain types of people only come along rarely. I don't know a lot about Jobs, but suspect that he may be one such person. Recently I have been thinking similar thoughts about JFK, MLK, RFK, etc Best wishes to all, especially Mr. Jobs. On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 09:03:39 -0800 (PST), lana mlitwin3...@att.net said: I should preface this by saying that most women think differently than some men.They have to to ride the waves of day to day life. I am very fond of Apple computers as I have just discovered them. I hope they survive. I don't know if Mr Jobs has noticed but the younger generation has been doing computers since they were tots and are quite good. The best computer person I ever met had been using computers since he was four and started building them at 12. He was 17 when I met him and earning as much as me,an adult, at a part time job fixing computers. He was a trouble shooter for Gateway. He was going to college in the fall. For his own sanity Mr Jobs has to realize that we are all dispensable. The next morning after he quits,someone will be doing his job. It may take them a while to be as good as he is as experience does matter but we are all dispensable. If we are lucky we have balanced our job and home life to ease the transition from work to retirement. I hope Mr Jobs ' health improves so he can stay on. He is obviously not ready to retire. --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Steve Jobs Oh My To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 4:21 AM I agree that Apple will most likely succeed when Jobs is gone and that Apple is 10,000 people. However: in 94-97 (Or whenever he was not ther), Apple lost focus on who it was and was in serious trouble (from Jobs himself), which is what is striking fear into a lot of people about Jobs leaving now. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:10 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Part of the problem is that way too many people associate everything about Apple (from Day 1 of the company) with Steve Jobs. They don't give credit to others who have been part of all that is Apple, preferring to think its all coming from the mind of Steve Jobs. Who invented the various iPods? In the eyes of the masses Steve Jobs did. iMac? Again, they feel it was Steve Jobs iBook? Why, Steve Jobs of course! MacBook/MacBook Pro? Steve Jobs did! iPhone? That was Steve Jobs again! I know of people who, when I say Steve Wozniak (of even just Woz) when referring to my older Apples (][e's and a //c) say Who? and its only when I say he and Steve Jobs started Apple that they know what I am talking about. They admit that they only associate Steve Jobs with Apple because thats all we hear about these days. The news the other night mentioned he was a founder of Apple Computer and the photo they showed was not the familiar one of him and Woz with the original Apple but one of just Steve Jobs with an early computer. This will just further the belief for some people that Steve Jobs = Apple On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: You are exactly right - it is the same problem the wonderful beach band known as the Beach Boys has had by failing to allow new, younger members to gradually overtake the band, replacing the older members and continuing with the band; sure the sound will change a little, but by and large, it will live on, just as Apple will change a little with new leadership. We hope, with new leadership, they will stop shooting their foot over and over again, but that will be told in time. It is timely that number 44 is about to lead us, thank God we move on to new leadership and survive; change is good! JML --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Steve Jobs Oh My To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 10:46 AM This may be good fortune for Apple. Hear me out before you want to lynch-mob me. This situation actually may help Apple out by giving another person the chance to step up and become recognized before Jobs does retire. This probably will get Apple consumers and investors used to the Idea of another CEO before Jobs suddenly retires. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: I hope he
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
frankenste...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi, I understand the sentiment, but would like to note that some people are sort of irreplaceable... at least immediately. Certain types of people only come along rarely. I don't know a lot about Jobs, but suspect that he may be one such person. Recently I have been thinking similar thoughts about JFK, MLK, RFK, etc Best wishes to all, especially Mr. Jobs. I agree wholeheartedly!! Apple tried it once without Jobs and almost sank into oblivion. Jobs IS unique to his company ... like Ford and Edison and Disney ... innovators and dreamers who have a vision of what they want but can not quite explain that vision to others. Someone once said that for several years after Disney died that his followers did NOT change a thing ... Disney was ALL about change and innovation. If you want the same old recycled garbage year after year just watch as MicroSoft moves from XP to Vista to the next unnamed OS debacle. SSDD Not everything Jobs has done has been a success, nor was Fords, Edison or Disney, but I can tell you that people always wanted to know what was their next big thing. I hope Jobs will live long and prosper so that all of us Mac Fans and Fanatics can enjoy and use the fruit of his ideas and labors. The thought of a world without Macs would be too horrible to contemplate. Dan A. Currie, Jr. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
Hello, The following pretty well sums it up, I think: Bruce Sugarberg === http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/index.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
I'm pretty sure Jobs wont retire soon unless his health deteriorates, because he has a vision of what Apple is and loves what he does. But this puts idea into peoples' heads that eventually he is not going to be there and that Apple will have to persist without him at some point which is good for Apple. Not disagreeing with anything that has been said. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Dan A. Currie danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: frankenste...@fastmail.fm wrote: Hi, I understand the sentiment, but would like to note that some people are sort of irreplaceable... at least immediately. Certain types of people only come along rarely. I don't know a lot about Jobs, but suspect that he may be one such person. Recently I have been thinking similar thoughts about JFK, MLK, RFK, etc Best wishes to all, especially Mr. Jobs. I agree wholeheartedly!! Apple tried it once without Jobs and almost sank into oblivion. Jobs IS unique to his company ... like Ford and Edison and Disney ... innovators and dreamers who have a vision of what they want but can not quite explain that vision to others. Someone once said that for several years after Disney died that his followers did NOT change a thing ... Disney was ALL about change and innovation. If you want the same old recycled garbage year after year just watch as MicroSoft moves from XP to Vista to the next unnamed OS debacle. SSDD Not everything Jobs has done has been a success, nor was Fords, Edison or Disney, but I can tell you that people always wanted to know what was their next big thing. I hope Jobs will live long and prosper so that all of us Mac Fans and Fanatics can enjoy and use the fruit of his ideas and labors. The thought of a world without Macs would be too horrible to contemplate. Dan A. Currie, Jr. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New RAM DVD Burner slow down (was....)
If your RAM is bad usually you have major problems running the computer. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 1:24 AM -0500 1/17/2009, Steve R wrote: I'm confused. Why exactly do you think a bad stick of memory would cause one DVD burner to talk at a lower speed while the other DVD burner is fine? Are you seeing error messages from the kernel in system log screaming about soft memory errors? (Hard memory errors result in kernel panics). This sounds to me like you're trying to blame the speedometer for a flat tire. I ran memtest in single user mode, no problems found. Then the memory is probably fine. I reran it on a regular restart, A total waste of time -- the point of using Memtest in single user mode is that it is able to test MORE of the memory. Running it after a normal boot is kindof like checking only one shelf in the refrig for rotten food then declaring the whole refrig is 100% stink free. Internal DVD burner accepts 8x burn in preferences but still refuses to burn faster than 1x/2x with both Toast 9.0.2 and Disk Utility. What internal DVD burner? Is this the stock burner that came with the machine or something you added? Details please! Hooked up Firewire DVD burner... burns discs (same brand/spool) at 8x and even 12x and 16x in both Toast 9.0.2 and Disk Utility Ok. That's good. It means that both utilities think your Mac is fast enough to handle the higher burn speeds. So that's not the problem. Does any of this disprove bad RAM or prove ??? Passed memtest so the memory is most likely fine. It's a refurbished machine, 9 days with me. I burned maybe 10 DVDs prior to changing the RAM, all at 8x. Ah. So this is a NEW symptom created AFTER you were inside the machine (which you still haven't said what is). Might be a good idea to reseat the DVD drive cables and such. Tomorrow I'm going to clone the drive and reinstall the OS plus Toast Concentrate on the DVD drive. Don't go replacing the floor mats just because you have an engine problem. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New RAM DVD Burner slow down (was....)
Could it be that the BUS speed was slower on the RAM that caused the problems. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: If your RAM is bad usually you have major problems running the computer. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 1:24 AM -0500 1/17/2009, Steve R wrote: I'm confused. Why exactly do you think a bad stick of memory would cause one DVD burner to talk at a lower speed while the other DVD burner is fine? Are you seeing error messages from the kernel in system log screaming about soft memory errors? (Hard memory errors result in kernel panics). This sounds to me like you're trying to blame the speedometer for a flat tire. I ran memtest in single user mode, no problems found. Then the memory is probably fine. I reran it on a regular restart, A total waste of time -- the point of using Memtest in single user mode is that it is able to test MORE of the memory. Running it after a normal boot is kindof like checking only one shelf in the refrig for rotten food then declaring the whole refrig is 100% stink free. Internal DVD burner accepts 8x burn in preferences but still refuses to burn faster than 1x/2x with both Toast 9.0.2 and Disk Utility. What internal DVD burner? Is this the stock burner that came with the machine or something you added? Details please! Hooked up Firewire DVD burner... burns discs (same brand/spool) at 8x and even 12x and 16x in both Toast 9.0.2 and Disk Utility Ok. That's good. It means that both utilities think your Mac is fast enough to handle the higher burn speeds. So that's not the problem. Does any of this disprove bad RAM or prove ??? Passed memtest so the memory is most likely fine. It's a refurbished machine, 9 days with me. I burned maybe 10 DVDs prior to changing the RAM, all at 8x. Ah. So this is a NEW symptom created AFTER you were inside the machine (which you still haven't said what is). Might be a good idea to reseat the DVD drive cables and such. Tomorrow I'm going to clone the drive and reinstall the OS plus Toast Concentrate on the DVD drive. Don't go replacing the floor mats just because you have an engine problem. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
Have you tried copying the files to a CD and read them on the eMac? On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
www.OpenOffice.org or a similar program will probably open the files if they are text files On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried copying the files to a CD and read them on the eMac? On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
There is not a USB on the Performa 550. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
He doesn't have a cd burner... no way to do that the machine is very old.. the os was on floppy disks. On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: Have you tried copying the files to a CD and read them on the eMac? On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Paypal strongly preferred at: twoapplen...@gmail.com Ships from: Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Charles Davis wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. That fixes the hardware problem (this I was aware of) but the software issue, that's another story...hmm Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
Thanks!, I'll check it out. Jeff On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: www.OpenOffice.org or a similar program will probably open the files if they are text files On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried copying the files to a CD and read them on the eMac? On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Paypal strongly preferred at: twoapplen...@gmail.com Ships from: Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: There is not a USB on the Performa 550. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. Your right, no usb I think floppy diskettes were all the rage back then. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
An external floppy drive and a USB adapter will help move the files over also. I do'nt remember if OpenOffice.org works on Mac. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Charles Davis wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. That fixes the hardware problem (this I was aware of) but the software issue, that's another story...hmm Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
Yeah. There will need to be an adapter of some sort. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: There is not a USB on the Performa 550. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. Your right, no usb I think floppy diskettes were all the rage back then. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
Dan A. Currie wrote: Apple tried it once without Jobs and almost sank into oblivion. Hopefully they learned something from that, tho. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
Actually, connecting to a network through the phone modem may be the best alternative. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. There will need to be an adapter of some sort. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: There is not a USB on the Performa 550. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. Your right, no usb I think floppy diskettes were all the rage back then. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
well, I know it's got a built-in floppy drive... if I get a USB floppy for the emac, that should work fine for the file transfer... unless I need to reformat the disk on the emac side? that would be not so good. you know if the current mac format is the same as macs of that era? Jeff On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: Actually, connecting to a network through the phone modem may be the best alternative. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. There will need to be an adapter of some sort. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: There is not a USB on the Performa 550. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. Your right, no usb I think floppy diskettes were all the rage back then. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Paypal strongly preferred at: twoapplen...@gmail.com Ships from: Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
It's possible that they are different formats but I doubt it. If you have OS9 Environment installed on the emac than the old files should work. If not, then try OpenOffice.org. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: well, I know it's got a built-in floppy drive... if I get a USB floppy for the emac, that should work fine for the file transfer... unless I need to reformat the disk on the emac side? that would be not so good. you know if the current mac format is the same as macs of that era? Jeff On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: Actually, connecting to a network through the phone modem may be the best alternative. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. There will need to be an adapter of some sort. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: There is not a USB on the Performa 550. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. Your right, no usb I think floppy diskettes were all the rage back then. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Paypal strongly preferred at: twoapplen...@gmail.com Ships from: Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Kernel Panic on Cube
On 17-01-2009 15:59, Charles Davis, c...@gamewood.net, wrote: I'm not aware of Memory test programs runnable under OS9. [But there must be some.] Try RAMometer v1.3.4 If you cannot find it anymore mail me OffList, no problem to send and it's less as 100KB, IIRC. Jo Hissel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New RAM DVD Burner slow down (was....)
On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Dan wrote: It just makes no sense to me that differing memory sticks would affect the burning speed of one drive but the not the other. Because Bad RAM is deep voodoo. On my 7600 it caused my internal SCSI chain to malfunction when a G4 CPU was installed. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
FW: [iomug] Steve Jobs Liver Transplant?
-- Van: Randy B. Singer ra...@macattorney.com Beantwoord: io...@yahoogroups.com Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:06:48 -0800 Aan: io...@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp: [iomug] Steve Jobs Liver Transplant? http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204sid=aDmh9xsKBMe4 ___ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Printer sharing with mac os 10.4 server??
On Jan 16, 2009, at 5:39 PM, jonas ulrich wrote: So how can I just share the printer on my private network?-Jonas You really need to get the OS X Server docs. OS X Server is a different beast from OS X. I've never actually messed with it. Read the Help files. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
Kyle Parish wrote: It's possible that they are different formats but I doubt it. If you have OS9 Environment installed on the emac than the old files should work. If not, then try OpenOffice.org. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. Your right, no usb I think floppy diskettes were all the rage back then. Formats should be OK on floppies. If the owner is not very technical, chances are it was likely Claris Works that was used. - AppleWorks should open them, I believe. Possibly they were written an earlier version of Word, but that was way pricey for a non-tech home user back then. Other WP programs were more likely to be used mainly by a techie/enthusiast/experienced user. If all else fails, I'm happy for you to put them in a folder, zip it email it to me, and I'll try to open them send them back in a format to suit you. I have several WP packages (Inc Appleworks 6) so I am hopeful. Best, Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? An antique mechanism called the Floppy Disk :-) Seriously, a USB floppy drive is cheap...I picked one up at Big Lots for $12 new. It didn't mention Mac or OSX at all, but standard USB floppies work out of the box. Alternatively, if the performa has any wat to get online, transfer via file sharing sites or the like will work as well. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Aluminum Wireless Keyboard
Does anyone know of an Aluminum wireless keyboard with a numeric keypad other than Rocketfish? The Rocketfish has gotten bad reveiws for Mac usage. George Mac OS X 10.5.6 Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Kyle Parish wrote: Yeah. There will need to be an adapter of some sort. Why?The Performa has a built-in floppy drive...copy the files to a floppy, send disk to Jeffrey, Jeffrey plugs in an external floppy drive, and voila, file transfer. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: FW: [iomug] Steve Jobs Liver Transplant?
J.M.P.Hissel wrote: -- Van: Randy B. Singer ra...@macattorney.com Beantwoord: io...@yahoogroups.com Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:06:48 -0800 Aan: io...@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp: [iomug] Steve Jobs Liver Transplant? http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601204sid=aDmh9xsKBMe4 ___ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___ Looks very much like a little speculation dressed up in vague unspecified possibility. The sort of bollocks found here in the UK in the gutter tabloid press. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New RAM DVD Burner slow down (was....)
At 12:26 PM -0700 1/17/09, Kyle Parish posted: Could it be that the BUS speed was slower on the RAM that caused the problems. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: If your RAM is bad usually you have major problems running the computer. Bus speed per System Profile is 1066MHz which matches what MacTracker says. But chipmunk, when queried via serial number, says that it was built in October 2008 but the System Bus is 667MHz which was last used on 2006 models per MacTracker. RAM minimum speed per specs is 800MHz, and is what is printed on the OEM chips and on the OWC upgrade RAM, which match again with what System Profile is telling me for both sets of RAM. Google/versiontracker/macupdate are not helpful in telling me how to go about real world testing of the system bus. Got any suggestions? Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seagate HD firmware update
It just dawned on me that perhaps some of the Apple Time Capsules have the Seagate HDs with the firmware defect? If this were true, that would explain the terrible performance and disk corruption of the Time Capsule. If this is the case, Apple and Seagate need to release some way to upgrade the HD firmware using a Mac. Seagate FreeAgent external HDs also use the models affected by this firmware defect. This creates a whole larger issue for people using FreeAgent external HDs and needing to upgrade the firmware. I suspect the Windows only firmware updater won't work via USB or Firewire. It would seem more likely to work via eSata. If these HDs are inside many external enclosures, as it appears they are, this is a mess. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
All that is needed is to copy them to the 3.5 floppy and use an external drive to copy them to the eMac. If both computers are going to be used than an external drive is necessary anyway and the old computer can still be used for storage. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Steve R mailing.lists.2...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? Mail them to yourself as attachments. Use gmail to set up a throwaway account if you can't access the gent's email application. If the files are too large to mail and you don't want to split them, try an online storage site -- a bit of a slog to upload/download but the files get to your computer. Steve R --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Seagate HD firmware update
On Jan 17, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: It just dawned on me that perhaps some of the Apple Time Capsules have the Seagate HDs with the firmware defect? If this were true, that would explain the terrible performance and disk corruption of the Time Capsule. If this is the case, Apple and Seagate need to release some way to upgrade the HD firmware using a Mac. That would be a nice catch... Time Machine seems to be working fine in on my system, a QS 2002 with external OWC FW encased 750GB Seagate PATA harddrive. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
He has no internet connection. Jeff On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:43 PM, Steve R wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? Mail them to yourself as attachments. Use gmail to set up a throwaway account if you can't access the gent's email application. If the files are too large to mail and you don't want to split them, try an online storage site -- a bit of a slog to upload/download but the files get to your computer. Steve R Paypal strongly preferred at: twoapplen...@gmail.com Ships from: Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Kyle Parish wrote: There is not a USB on the Performa 550. ISTR the Performa has a 'small' drive of some sort! --- Floppy or Zip. Chuck On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Charles Davis wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. That fixes the hardware problem (this I was aware of) but the software issue, that's another story...hmm Well, it fixes the Hardware problem 'Sorta' --- ;-) Which variety of floppy format is being used? There is software available (I think),. to read most of the older formats. Once it's on a disk, then the reading problem is much easier to handle. Chuck D. Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: New RAM DVD Burner slow down (was....)
At 12:26 PM -0700 1/17/2009, Kyle Parish wrote: Could it be that the BUS speed was slower on the RAM that caused the problems. Memory bus vs I/O bus vs Burner speed. (and their respective orders of magnitude). Even if the memory was running slow, it would STILL be way faster than a DVD needs to do a fast burn. AND Toast has, afaik, NO logic to test such things; it just goes by reported CPU speed. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
Got a USB port on the eMac? External floppy, or Zip -- move external to new machine, read the floppies/Zips. Chuck D. That fixes the hardware problem (this I was aware of) but the software issue, that's another story...hmm Well, it fixes the Hardware problem 'Sorta' --- ;-) Which variety of floppy format is being used? There is software available (I think),. to read most of the older formats. Once it's on a disk, then the reading problem is much easier to handle. Chuck D. I think I've got it all put together 1.44 floppies, transferred to the eMac, then opened with appleworks or openoffice. Hope that all works, then I'll get him into a newer machine :-) Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: well, I know it's got a built-in floppy drive... if I get a USB floppy for the emac, that should work fine for the file transfer... unless I need to reformat the disk on the emac side? that would be not so good. you know if the current mac format is the same as macs of that era? Jeff Expect it to NOT be. That way you may get a pleasant surprise. On the USB Floppy, the problem is to find an external floppy drive that will write something current in the way of 'disk format', that will let it be readable when it gets to the eMac. Most of the external peripherals in those days were SCSI --- Does it have an 'Ethernet' connection, by chance? Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 3:49 pm, Kyle Parish parishky...@gmail.com wrote: All that is needed is to copy them to the 3.5 floppy and use an external drive to copy them to the eMac. If both computers are going to be used than an external drive is necessary anyway and the old computer can still be used for storage. Apple specs on the Performa 550: http://support.apple.com/kb/SP279 Also, lowendmac.com profiles does not show what applications came on the machine. The floppy and CD options mentioned previously are valid, but that is only the hardware side. The real challenge is the file format. But all Performas came with home oriented applications including ClarisWorks and TeachText. Users could add Microsoft Works, Microsoft Word, WordPerfect, etc, but very few folks would do that. TeachText was very rudimentary. So, the resident files are most likely in ClarisWorks. AppleWorks 6 and Pages do not open the earliest ClarisWorks files. What can work is to use an intermediate version ClarisWorks; that would be ClarisWorks 5 I believe, or possibly 4. Save in the newer version of CW. Then AppleWorks 6 can open the intermediate saves. And then both AW and Pages can play with the new files. By the way, ClarisWorks 5 will not run in OS X. There are also MacLinkPlus, OpenOffice, and NeoOffice that are worth a try. Good Luck. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
Files: You really need to know what program he was/is using if you want to convert the files to whatever software he'll be using in the future. If he is only after saving the content, copy/paste from whatever into TeachText and save as a plain text file. Otherwise, print to PostScript using the LaswerWriter driver. (I assume he can open them now on his machine!) This of course will require some work at the receiving end (most likely batch-converting to PDF). Getting them off: First choice would be SCSI disk mode to your laptop (You do have an old powerbook for occasions like this, don't you?) Second choice would be copying to a SCSI ZIP drive (to be read off of a USB ZIP drive onto a newer Mac. They're practically free these days, and the time saved using one once will pay for the purchase. Third choice is HIGH DENSITY floppy. Make sure he's not copying onto 800K floppies, which USB drives cannot read. This is torture and to be avoided. On Jan 17, 12:13 pm, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Charles Davis wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: well, I know it's got a built-in floppy drive... if I get a USB floppy for the emac, that should work fine for the file transfer... unless I need to reformat the disk on the emac side? that would be not so good. you know if the current mac format is the same as macs of that era? Jeff Expect it to NOT be. That way you may get a pleasant surprise. On the USB Floppy, the problem is to find an external floppy drive that will write something current in the way of 'disk format', that will let it be readable when it gets to the eMac. Most of the external peripherals in those days were SCSI --- Does it have an 'Ethernet' connection, by chance? Chuck D. Nope, no ethernet... floppy looks like our only bet Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Kyle Parish wrote: Yeah. There will need to be an adapter of some sort. Why?The Performa has a built-in floppy drive...copy the files to a floppy, send disk to Jeffrey, Jeffrey plugs in an external floppy drive, and voila, file transfer. Because - A Floppy, is a Floppy, is a Floppy, is a Floppy. is NOT a true statement. There have been multitudes of 'floppy Format varieties. Many of which interchange with no problems, others of which are very stubborn to give up their secrets. Chuck D. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
This is some great info! I don't have that older laptop unfortunately. I believe I can do the transfer on 1.44 floppies... then give the rest of your advice a workout:-) thanks! Jeff On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:15 PM, Robert MacLeay wrote: Files: You really need to know what program he was/is using if you want to convert the files to whatever software he'll be using in the future. If he is only after saving the content, copy/paste from whatever into TeachText and save as a plain text file. Otherwise, print to PostScript using the LaswerWriter driver. (I assume he can open them now on his machine!) This of course will require some work at the receiving end (most likely batch-converting to PDF). Getting them off: First choice would be SCSI disk mode to your laptop (You do have an old powerbook for occasions like this, don't you?) Second choice would be copying to a SCSI ZIP drive (to be read off of a USB ZIP drive onto a newer Mac. They're practically free these days, and the time saved using one once will pay for the purchase. Third choice is HIGH DENSITY floppy. Make sure he's not copying onto 800K floppies, which USB drives cannot read. This is torture and to be avoided. On Jan 17, 12:13 pm, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: The machine: A performa 550 (This is the dark ages for me, so bare with me) Got text files on it from a software program of the time (what software would they have used back then?). I need to transfer these files and open them on my eMac? How in the blazes do I do this? I don't own the computer and so far have only talked to the gentleman on the phone and he's not very literate on his machine either.. whew! this could be a lost cause I originally though that a printer cable would at least get the doc's printed, but that doesn't solve the problem when he gets that newer mac and needs to transfer? I think I'll need a floppy drive for the eMac too? Ideas... Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback Paypal strongly preferred at: twoapplen...@gmail.com Ships from: Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 208-935-0992 eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On 18/01/2009, at 9:24 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: This is some great info! I don't have that older laptop unfortunately. I believe I can do the transfer on 1.44 floppies... then give the rest of your advice a workout:-) thanks! Jeff G'day Jeff. The VERY easiest way is to simply print out every document in a somewhat large size, then to scan in to OS X using a character recognition program such as omnipage. I presume he has a printer? This has the added benefit of a hard copy to file, which will outlast floppy and hard drive storage. Presumably there's not too many files? My tuppence worth. Regards Santa --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Was The question of the day? Now, Very old file, newer Mac
On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Brian Christmas wrote: On 18/01/2009, at 9:24 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: This is some great info! I don't have that older laptop unfortunately. I believe I can do the transfer on 1.44 floppies... then give the rest of your advice a workout:-) thanks! Jeff G'day Jeff. The VERY easiest way is to simply print out every document in a somewhat large size, then to scan in to OS X using a character recognition program such as omnipage. I presume he has a printer? This has the added benefit of a hard copy to file, which will outlast floppy and hard drive storage. Presumably there's not too many files? My tuppence worth. Regards Santa Thanks for the info. as soon as I get that floppy drive (and no the printer doesn't work) It should work, I hope. Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Another Question
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 14, 2009, at 12:54 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I wonder, what chews up HD space if you leave Aps open a long time. I do delete the cache on my browser from time to time but after awhile it doesn't seem to help Flash has long been a memory hog, and some versions of Safari have had long standing memory leaks, a bug where a program appropriates memory, but doesn't release it when it's done with it. Ummm, I have Flashblock 1.5.7.1 and AdBlock Plus 1.0.1 I also scrapped the one version of Forecastfox that a ton of websites said had a memory leak (I have the little pie shaped thing that shows Memory Usage and over a week of computer uptime you can watch it increase) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: I hope he gets better soon, such a unique individual. Just needed to vent. I also have some Apple stock - groan. The logical ( ? ) interim CEO of course would be Woz ! If Apple means anything to anyone but Steve it should be Woz, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Kernel Panic on Cube
On Jan 17, 7:59 am, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: There are consistent reports that OSX is 'finicky' about memory. Are you close enough that you might borrow some 'other' DIMMs from a friend, and try different memory? I borrowed memory from my Sawtooth, which is right next to it on the desk ;-) I did the one-stick, two-stick thing with no different result. I'm not aware of Memory test programs runnable under OS9. [But there must be some.] Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally.
-Original Message- From: Clark Martin cm...@sonic.net Sent: Dec 21, 2008 12:58 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally. Mullin9 wrote: Ways to clean up old Macs, environmentally. 1 way to clean up an old Mac is to recycle a CRT monitor, and buy an LCD, especially a LED backed LCD. another way to do it is to upgrade to new/newer environmentally clean Macs. or at replace components with environmentally cleaner ones. for those who knows how to tinker with older Macs and it's hardware, and have G3 iMacs, or eMacs. you could gut the CRT and re-finish the Mac with an LCD display, just make sure the LCD matches the size of the CRT you're replacing. for my iMac G3 400, I knock off 20 Lbs most lead by using a 13 LCD in place of 13 CRT. Not buying a CRT monitor in the first place will help. Dumping one now and buying more gear now won't improve the environment as far as removing lead, etc is concerned. Getting the most use from what you have will. Now if you want to talk about power savings by replacing a CRT with an LCD now you are talking. Same is true by going from an old computer to a modern model. An intel iMac pulls the same amount of power when in sleep as when turned off, 1-2W. An older CRT iMac draws about 40W in sleep. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Kernel Panic on Cube
On Jan 17, 8:22 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: When exactly does it panic? The little spinny thing goes for about a minute, then the KP--not always completely displayed. The last couple times, I noticed it stopped at the black rectangle. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Kernel Panic on Cube
On Jan 17, 1:10 pm, J.M.P.Hissel jo...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 17-01-2009 15:59, Charles Davis, c...@gamewood.net, wrote: I'm not aware of Memory test programs runnable under OS9. [But there must be some.] Try RAMometer v1.3.4 If you cannot find it anymore mail me OffList, no problem to send and it's less as 100KB, IIRC. Jo Hissel I'm pretty sure of the RAM, as I've used it for several years in my Sawtooth, which I imagine to be very similar to the Cube. But why would it only work in Leopard? V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Kernel Panic on Cube
On Jan 17, 2009, at 11:42 PM, Vic wrote: On Jan 17, 1:10 pm, J.M.P.Hissel jo...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 17-01-2009 15:59, Charles Davis, c...@gamewood.net, wrote: I'm not aware of Memory test programs runnable under OS9. [But there must be some.] Try RAMometer v1.3.4 If you cannot find it anymore mail me OffList, no problem to send and it's less as 100KB, IIRC. Jo Hissel I'm pretty sure of the RAM, as I've used it for several years in my Sawtooth, which I imagine to be very similar to the Cube. But why would it only work in Leopard? I thought you were saying that the problem showed up when in Leopard. That would go with the 'More picky about memory' as OSX progressed observation. Chuck D. V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
Jobs left (was pushed out of) Apple in the mid 80's. Apple fell into dire straights in the mid 90's. I think that Apple reached it's all time high in 92. Jobs may have saved the company from oblivion in '97, but keep in mind several CEOs came and left Apple in the interim between his ousting and return. The reason Apple went to the brink was not because Steve left, since they would definitely see good times before he came back. In any event, what happened to drag Apple down doesn't have to happen again by a long shot. Those of us who have been Apple users for a really long time should be able to remember that. On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Mark wrote: Dan A. Currie wrote: Apple tried it once without Jobs and almost sank into oblivion. Hopefully they learned something from that, tho. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Mini load after ram upgrade
Any ideas why my Mini is louder after upgrading the ram from 1G to 2G? George Mac OS X 10.5.6 Mac Mini 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Memory 2GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
What dragged Apple down was a number of things and it occurred over a period of time 1) Way too many desktop models (II, LC. Performa, Quadra, Centris, Work Stations) 2) Too many Powerbook models 3) The Newton (good concept though!) and the MacTV (gotta get one) 4) There was still tech support for the older Apples Macs (Remember toll free tech support?) This was dropped, from what I remember being told, due to its cost 5) Apple stopped the Apple line after the IIgs (many have said this) 6) The Apple III/III+ while from earlier didn't help (turned some people off Apple) 7) The Apple Clone Wars made some people see Apple as heavy handed 8) The Mac Clones (Apple made machines that were in some ways inferior to the clones such as number of available card slots) I am sure I am forgetting some stuff but you get the point. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Brian Rule hellcat...@gmail.com wrote: Jobs left (was pushed out of) Apple in the mid 80's. Apple fell into dire straights in the mid 90's. I think that Apple reached it's all time high in 92. Jobs may have saved the company from oblivion in '97, but keep in mind several CEOs came and left Apple in the interim between his ousting and return. The reason Apple went to the brink was not because Steve left, since they would definitely see good times before he came back. In any event, what happened to drag Apple down doesn't have to happen again by a long shot. Those of us who have been Apple users for a really long time should be able to remember that. On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Mark wrote: Dan A. Currie wrote: Apple tried it once without Jobs and almost sank into oblivion. Hopefully they learned something from that, tho. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
Woz became an educator. Seems like that's where his heart was, rather than in the magically innovative side. On Jan 17, 10:17 pm, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Anne Keller-Smith earth...@ptd.net wrote: I hope he gets better soon, such a unique individual. Just needed to vent. I also have some Apple stock - groan. The logical ( ? ) interim CEO of course would be Woz ! If Apple means anything to anyone but Steve it should be Woz, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mini load after ram upgrade
On Jan 18, 2009, at 12:26 AM, George Hozendorf wrote: Any ideas why my Mini is louder after upgrading the ram from 1G to 2G? What does louder mean in context? Perhaps the sound output volume louder? Perhaps the HD making more noise? Other? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mini loud after ram upgrade
On Jan 18, 2009, at 12:49 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jan 18, 2009, at 12:26 AM, George Hozendorf wrote: Any ideas why my Mini is louder after upgrading the ram from 1G to 2G? What does louder mean in context? Perhaps the sound output volume louder? Perhaps the HD making more noise? Other? Glad you interpreted load for loud. It's the fan. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mini loud after ram upgrade
On Jan 18, 2009, at 1:00 AM, George Hozendorf wrote: Any ideas why my Mini is louder after upgrading the ram from 1G to 2G? Glad you interpreted load for loud. It's the fan. Probably it's running hotter? It appears your Mini has two RAM slots, so if you had a single 1GB stick, and added a 2nd, it'd only make sense that it runs a little hotter. It could be you inadvertently moved sometime that affected the fan? I have a G4 Mini that's overclocked to 1.58GHz, but I boot from external HDs so it's never runs hot and the fan is never loud. I've noticed that if I boot from the internal HD the fan immediately runs louder, so the G4 Mini fan is very heat sensitive. I wish my Time Capsule fan was as sensitive, it seems to get to melt down temps and I hear nothing, barely any air moving, and what I feel is HOT. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
New iPod
The question is. A 30GB 2007 classic iPod for $79.00 or an 80GB 2005 classic iPod for $129.00? Both show their age as far as scratches etc. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Steve Jobs Oh My
As Jobs put it Apple lost focus on who Apple was. Weather Apple can exist after Jobs is not the question here. What the question is, is do people, mostly people at Apple, including Jobs himself believe that Apple can exist after he is gone. It's not weather apple can exist. It's weather people believe it can. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: What dragged Apple down was a number of things and it occurred over a period of time 1) Way too many desktop models (II, LC. Performa, Quadra, Centris, Work Stations) 2) Too many Powerbook models 3) The Newton (good concept though!) and the MacTV (gotta get one) 4) There was still tech support for the older Apples Macs (Remember toll free tech support?) This was dropped, from what I remember being told, due to its cost 5) Apple stopped the Apple line after the IIgs (many have said this) 6) The Apple III/III+ while from earlier didn't help (turned some people off Apple) 7) The Apple Clone Wars made some people see Apple as heavy handed 8) The Mac Clones (Apple made machines that were in some ways inferior to the clones such as number of available card slots) I am sure I am forgetting some stuff but you get the point. On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Brian Rule hellcat...@gmail.com wrote: Jobs left (was pushed out of) Apple in the mid 80's. Apple fell into dire straights in the mid 90's. I think that Apple reached it's all time high in 92. Jobs may have saved the company from oblivion in '97, but keep in mind several CEOs came and left Apple in the interim between his ousting and return. The reason Apple went to the brink was not because Steve left, since they would definitely see good times before he came back. In any event, what happened to drag Apple down doesn't have to happen again by a long shot. Those of us who have been Apple users for a really long time should be able to remember that. On Jan 17, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Mark wrote: Dan A. Currie wrote: Apple tried it once without Jobs and almost sank into oblivion. Hopefully they learned something from that, tho. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
