Re: G5 won't sleep?
On 10 Nov 2009, at 16:20, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: 2.3ghz early 2005 G5 tower when I go up to the apple menu and select sleep , the monitor goes to sleep, hard drives spin down.. but the light refuses to pulse... Is there a way to return the mother/logic board back to factory defaults? There is something called a deep reset: Startup holding down OF. At the prompt, type: set-defaults (RETURN) then type: reset-all (RETURN) I got this information from: http://resale.headgap.com/bobsmactips.html#deep --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
On Nov 10, 11:41 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: The two frontrunners these days are CarbonCopyCloner (CCC) and SuperDuper!. My current preference is for CCC. We've had quite a few threads on the LEM lists discussing these products. If you're interested in them, you should search first. Is Retrospect out of the running? I'm quite behind the times with the switch to OSX. My main machine is still running 9.1, but my partner's and son's machines are on OSX and I really should have started a backup system for them a couple of years ago. I've used Retrospect since about version 2.1, but I'm unsure what the move to EMC may have wrought. Jeff Walther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
At 7:28 AM -0800 11/11/2009, t...@io.com wrote: On Nov 10, 11:41 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: The two frontrunners these days are CarbonCopyCloner (CCC) and SuperDuper!. My current preference is for CCC. We've had quite a few threads on the LEM lists discussing these products. If you're interested in them, you should search first. Is Retrospect out of the running? If your need is to backup to mag tape, or to handle hundreds of Macs, then Retrospect is a decent solution. For the rest, it's pretty much bloatware now. ...I'm just starting to look at Zmanda (the open source solution Bruce mentions in his reply). It looks interesting! I've used Retrospect since about version 2.1, but I'm unsure what the move to EMC may have wrought. It isn't pretty. EMC ate Insignia and Dantz (or something like that). They transferred things around, then totally gutted the development group in late 2006 / early 2007. So Retrospect 7 was stillborn. Like Intuit with QuickBooks - they faked it by continually remarketing the old dog. In late 2008 they resurrected things, with a port of Retrospect 8 to the Mac. I think that shipped in March 2009. Here it is Nov and it's still being marketed as all new!. Bottom line - for personal/home/small office backups, use CCC or SuperDuper as your primary. And if you feel the need for versioning during the day, use Time Machine *also*. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iPod Help
Greetings all, Thanks to a perfect srorm of failure (electric power and UPS *argh!*), my machine was shut down while my iPod touch was docked with iTunes up, loading class audio files. Upon reboot, my iPod as stand alone shows loss of all music and playlists. However, iTunes (on my office G5) shows it remembers all the playlists and (at least) the names of all the files in each playlist, which is apropo for the iPod (not necessarily correct for this particular library). If I do a general sync, nothing is refreshed on the iPod. If I do a music-specific sync, I get a warning that everything on the iPod will be replaced by what is on the computer. What I need to do is to force the iPod to update the library - anyone know the trick to this? many thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Can't purchase from iTunes Store
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Cliff Rediger wrote: Try to purchase a tune and get Error 1008 On Nov 10, 10:34 am, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: Did you try this : http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1385978 ITunes settings??? I'm unable to locate this basket to 1-Click option in either iT Preferences or the Store pull down menu. and For some users it helped to switch from the Basket to 1-Click-Buy in the iTunes settings. For me it helped to get Administrationrights in my Windwos XP. In all cases the error occured, while the users had some song coupons in their store. As soon as there are no more coupons the error should be gone. No coupons that I know of, and not sure where to look. I'm running latest Safari 4.0.3 and iTunes 9.0.2 The location of these options will probably prove obvious, but for the life of me I can't find them, thanks Cliff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Backups? !!!
On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:28 AM, t...@io.com wrote: Is Retrospect out of the running? I'm quite behind the times with the switch to OSX. My main machine is still running 9.1, but my partner's and son's machines are on OSX and I really should have started a backup system for them a couple of years ago. I've never really liked Retrospect, or any program that hides your data in a proprietary wrapper. CCC is great because you don't need CCC to get at your data. Things are different, obviously, in enterprise systems where you're backing up to tape and such bit for home use, simply backing up to hard drives is much more reliable and cost-effective. Even Time Machine doesn't NEED time machine for you to get at your data, it's just a little tedious navigating through the forest of directories. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
SuperDuper: Was; Backups? !!!
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: all new!. Bottom line - for personal/home/small office backups, use CCC or SuperDuper as your primary. And if you feel the need for versioning during the day, use Time Machine *also*. -- Seeing that old name I was wondering if this SuperDuper is an heir to the family going back to the Commodore Amiga platform of the late eighties. Or if it os a newer program going by the same name. Any CUCUG members out there who know? And for those who don't kmow CUCUG was a Commodore AND Mac user group. Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPod Help
Did you try doing it manually? Where you drag each song out of iTunes library and drop it into your iPod so it doesn't replace the songs already in it... You should find this under iTunes preferences... -Original Message- From: DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net Sent: Nov 11, 2009 12:27 PM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: iPod Help Greetings all, Thanks to a perfect srorm of failure (electric power and UPS *argh!*), my machine was shut down while my iPod touch was docked with iTunes up, loading class audio files. Upon reboot, my iPod as stand alone shows loss of all music and playlists. However, iTunes (on my office G5) shows it remembers all the playlists and (at least) the names of all the files in each playlist, which is apropo for the iPod (not necessarily correct for this particular library). If I do a general sync, nothing is refreshed on the iPod. If I do a music-specific sync, I get a warning that everything on the iPod will be replaced by what is on the computer. What I need to do is to force the iPod to update the library - anyone know the trick to this? many thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G3 BlueWhite
Couple of questions. How do I tell whether it is a rev 2 or not? How do I take out the hard drive? I took out the small screw to the right but it still is fastened somewhere. How difficult would it be to put another faster processor in there? What is the latest OS that I can run? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 BlueWhite
ok the Rev.2 ones have 16MB of video RAM (use system profiler.) For the hard drive, there is a tiny screw that is covered my the IDE cable when its plugged in. And finally, they can run Tiger. (btw thats what im on, a 400MHz one.) Oh, as for CPU upgrades, you unclip the heatsink , list the lever, and lift the CPU out. On Nov 11, 2009, at 3:37 PM, Jasiu wrote: Couple of questions. How do I tell whether it is a rev 2 or not? How do I take out the hard drive? I took out the small screw to the right but it still is fastened somewhere. How difficult would it be to put another faster processor in there? What is the latest OS that I can run? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 BlueWhite
At 2:37 PM -0800 11/11/2009, Jasiu wrote: How do I tell whether it is a rev 2 or not? [etc] Google is your friend. http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/g3c.shtml http://www.apple.com/support/powermac/g3/ http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g3/index-powermac-g3.html http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G3-ZONE/yosemite/index.html http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G3-ZONE/yosemite/newfeatures.html The xlr8 links are particularly useful. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 BlueWhite
On Nov 11, 4:37 pm, Jasiu johnschiavone...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of questions. How do I tell whether it is a rev 2 or not? How do I take out the hard drive? I took out the small screw to the right but it still is fastened somewhere. How difficult would it be to put another faster processor in there? What is the latest OS that I can run? Thanks Greetings, The best way to make sure you're getting a Rev. 2 motherboard is the 402 marking on the CMD646 IDE controller chip. As far as removing the hard drive there should just be one screw holding the bracket in place. That screw is the front of the bracket. You have to unplug the drive to see the screw. Remove the drive and bracket and there should be four screws holding the drive and bracket together. Replacing the processor is easy. Here is a link: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G4CARDS/XLR8_G4_400Z/index.html The BW G3 can run up to OSX.4.11 Hope this helps, Lee --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 BlueWhite
officially and according to many of the know-it-all sites, the last compatible version of osx would be 10.4.11. however, if you plan to drop coin on a CPU upgrade, i would recommend a powerlogix G3/1GHz. there are good reasons why a G4 upgrade is problematic in a BW, including things like being forced to cut down the bus speed of the logic board, and other incompatibilities requiring significant work- arounds. these are mentioned in a bit more detail on the powerlogix product page (which you can find thru macsales.com), and can they lead to instabilities. i have been using the PL G3/1gig upgrade in a BW for a year now (i wanted a faster processor in a computer that runs OS9 apps and requires a native ADB port for a software dongle), and it has performed flawlessly. not a single crash or conflict issue, and it hums along pretty well for a mesozoic era beast. not all apps, probably not even half, were ever written to exploit the vector processing capability of the G4 altivec engine. many apps run just as fast on a G3, and therefore the most important factor would be the clock speed of the CPU. and with the 1gig processor, i'd say it might be a fair gamble that it could run OS 10.5.6, since it exceeds the 867MHz cutoff. then again, it might not because it's neither a G4, nor an apple CPU. someone on the list may have already tried this, and could say for sure. i have not tried it, since the box i have is dedicated to the OS9 apps, and i don't even own a copy of leopard. best, 8^) On Nov 11, 5:37 pm, Jasiu johnschiavone...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of questions. How do I tell whether it is a rev 2 or not? How do I take out the hard drive? I took out the small screw to the right but it still is fastened somewhere. How difficult would it be to put another faster processor in there? What is the latest OS that I can run? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 BlueWhite
On Nov 11, 2009, at 7:46 PM, ah...clem wrote: officially and according to many of the know-it-all sites, the last compatible version of osx would be 10.4.11. Leopard can be modified to work: http://www.macmod.com/software-mods/mac-os/1571-leopard-on-pre-pci --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 BlueWhite
Stro wrote: On Nov 11, 4:37 pm, Jasiu johnschiavone...@gmail.com wrote: Couple of questions. How do I tell whether it is a rev 2 or not? How do I take out the hard drive? I took out the small screw to the right but it still is fastened somewhere. How difficult would it be to put another faster processor in there? What is the latest OS that I can run? Thanks Greetings, The best way to make sure you're getting a Rev. 2 motherboard is the 402 marking on the CMD646 IDE controller chip. As far as removing the hard drive there should just be one screw holding the bracket in place. That screw is the front of the bracket. You have to unplug the drive to see the screw. Remove the drive and bracket and there should be four screws holding the drive and bracket together. Replacing the processor is easy. Here is a link: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G4CARDS/XLR8_G4_400Z/index.html The BW G3 can run up to OSX.4.11 The OP mentioned the screw as being to the right. That sounds like the single large drive mount that holds all the drives. With the screw removed and the cables detached the drive sled should lift up from the right side and slide to the right, release the tabs at the other end. It's basically like above but a different direction and it's larger. One suggestion as far as CPU upgrades is concerned, check the usual sources (e-bay, craig's list, surplus stores, etc.) for a G4 computer. You may be able to get a new computer for as much as the upgrade with a similar speed CPU and it will be better in other ways (faster bus, AGP graphics, large drive support, etc.). -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iPod Help
On 11/11/09 3:01 PM, Richard Gerome of onecoolka...@earthlink.net sent Did you try doing it manually? Where you drag each song out of iTunes library and drop it into your iPod so it doesn't replace the songs already in it... You should find this under iTunes preferences... -Original Message- From: DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net Sent: Nov 11, 2009 12:27 PM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: iPod Help Greetings all, Thanks to a perfect srorm of failure (electric power and UPS *argh!*), my machine was shut down while my iPod touch was docked with iTunes up, loading class audio files. Upon reboot, my iPod as stand alone shows loss of all music and playlists. However, iTunes (on my office G5) shows it remembers all the playlists and (at least) the names of all the files in each playlist, which is apropo for the iPod (not necessarily correct for this particular library). If I do a general sync, nothing is refreshed on the iPod. If I do a music-specific sync, I get a warning that everything on the iPod will be replaced by what is on the computer. What I need to do is to force the iPod to update the library - anyone know the trick to this? many thanks, Dana Hi Richard, Thanks for replying. Yes, all of my iTunes on all computers is set for manual management. What I wanted to avoid was redoing the whole shebang on the iPod if I could. That the Mac could see directories and files but the iPod could not led me to my question. Had both Mac and iPod shown nothing would have told me I needed to start from scratch. Good news - I dragged a music file that was known to be already on the iPod (maybe that is what you were suggesting?) which forced it to do an update of its own library - all's well. Odd: apps, photos and videos were fine - just MP3 resources got damaged. Thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Classic on Ruby Red iMac
On Nov 10, 5:08 pm, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:59 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I have a Ruby Red iMac that i am setting up for a 6 year old. It is G3, 400mhz. I installed a new hard drive and formatted it to 10.4, that's the OS her school runs on their iMacs.) I have also installed several learning games that need Classic. However, whenever I try to open one of these, I get a message that it cant find 9.2 to run Classic. I thought i had installed it during the 10.4 installation. Was there a separate option? How can i put in on the iMac now? Jane The 10.4 DVD contains support for Classic, but you will have to install 9.2.2 separately. Put in a 9.2.x disk while in Tiger, then select it as the startup disk in System Preferences and restart. Or restart and hold down the C key. Once booted to the OS 9 disk, install 9.2.x and then run Software Update until there's nothing left to update. You may find that the firmware needs to be updated; if so, consider yourself lucky that 10.4 ran OK. When you're happy with OS 9.2.2, select OS 10.4 as the startup disk in Control Panel, and restart in 10.4. Once there, go to System Preferences, select Classic and follow the prompts. One of the options is to always start up Classic when the iMac boots into 10.4. That lets you put Classic program icons on the desktop, and your little friend will be able to launch those apps without any problems. Of course, check them out first since some OS 9 apps don't run very well in Classic. If so, then you'll have lots of fun teaching a 6-year-old how to do the old dual-boot dance. Good luck! Jim Scott Jim, I have the CD of 9.0. Held down the C key and booted from the CD. The install attempt failed. I got a message that said I could not install 9 on the volume with 10.4 and to choose Options. The choice there was a Clean install and I don't really know what that entails, so I quit the installer. What did I miss doing? The iMac firmware is up to date. Jane -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Data Recovery Part 2
A couple of months ago, I reported trying to recover an external hard drive used on a Mac but formatted as FAT32. I believe it was wiped out by Disk Utility doing a quick format. Recovery attempts under Windows got a lot of files, but barely any were readable. I'd post a continuation on the old thread, but I'm only given the Reply to Author option, and I assume that means the message wouldn't be public. A local Mac guy suggested running File Salvage on a Mac, and right now the trial version is churning through the disk. It won't let me save anything, but its previews are showing what look like a lot of working files. Has anyone tried File Salvage? Do you know where to get it for less than the $70-$80 prices I've seen? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iPod Help
I think the reason why only the mp3 files were messed up is because they came from iTunes and everything else was down loaded from other places like desktop??? So the problem was probably caused by iTunes??? This is only a guess... So I'm glad you got it straightened out, I'm always afraid to reply to these questions because some people here send me nasty e-mails when I answer them... I'm just offering solutions to problems based on my experience I never want to come off as an expert because I am not and if I'm just guessing I will always say so... I know how it can be when something happens and it takes hrs sometimes days to get it right... One thing I will say is that Macs are a whole lot easier then PC's... PC's sometimes take weeks to straighten out... -Original Message- From: Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net Sent: Nov 11, 2009 9:58 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPod Help On 11/11/09 3:01 PM, Richard Gerome of onecoolka...@earthlink.net sent Did you try doing it manually? Where you drag each song out of iTunes library and drop it into your iPod so it doesn't replace the songs already in it... You should find this under iTunes preferences... -Original Message- From: DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net Sent: Nov 11, 2009 12:27 PM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: iPod Help Greetings all, Thanks to a perfect srorm of failure (electric power and UPS *argh!*), my machine was shut down while my iPod touch was docked with iTunes up, loading class audio files. Upon reboot, my iPod as stand alone shows loss of all music and playlists. However, iTunes (on my office G5) shows it remembers all the playlists and (at least) the names of all the files in each playlist, which is apropo for the iPod (not necessarily correct for this particular library). If I do a general sync, nothing is refreshed on the iPod. If I do a music-specific sync, I get a warning that everything on the iPod will be replaced by what is on the computer. What I need to do is to force the iPod to update the library - anyone know the trick to this? many thanks, Dana Hi Richard, Thanks for replying. Yes, all of my iTunes on all computers is set for manual management. What I wanted to avoid was redoing the whole shebang on the iPod if I could. That the Mac could see directories and files but the iPod could not led me to my question. Had both Mac and iPod shown nothing would have told me I needed to start from scratch. Good news - I dragged a music file that was known to be already on the iPod (maybe that is what you were suggesting?) which forced it to do an update of its own library - all's well. Odd: apps, photos and videos were fine - just MP3 resources got damaged. Thanks, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Classic on Ruby Red iMac
Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: On Nov 10, 5:08 pm, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:59 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I have a Ruby Red iMac that i am setting up for a 6 year old. It is G3, 400mhz. I installed a new hard drive and formatted it to 10.4, that's the OS her school runs on their iMacs.) I have also installed several learning games that need Classic. However, whenever I try to open one of these, I get a message that it cant find 9.2 to run Classic. I thought i had installed it during the 10.4 installation. Was there a separate option? How can i put in on the iMac now? Jane The 10.4 DVD contains support for Classic, but you will have to install 9.2.2 separately. Put in a 9.2.x disk while in Tiger, then select it as the startup disk in System Preferences and restart. Or restart and hold down the C key. Once booted to the OS 9 disk, install 9.2.x and then run Software Update until there's nothing left to update. You may find that the firmware needs to be updated; if so, consider yourself lucky that 10.4 ran OK. When you're happy with OS 9.2.2, select OS 10.4 as the startup disk in Control Panel, and restart in 10.4. Once there, go to System Preferences, select Classic and follow the prompts. One of the options is to always start up Classic when the iMac boots into 10.4. That lets you put Classic program icons on the desktop, and your little friend will be able to launch those apps without any problems. Of course, check them out first since some OS 9 apps don't run very well in Classic. If so, then you'll have lots of fun teaching a 6-year-old how to do the old dual-boot dance. Good luck! Jim Scott Jim, I have the CD of 9.0. Held down the C key and booted from the CD. The install attempt failed. I got a message that said I could not install 9 on the volume with 10.4 and to choose Options. The choice there was a Clean install and I don't really know what that entails, so I quit the installer. What did I miss doing? The iMac firmware is up to date. That sounds like when you formatted the HD from the OS X installer CD/DVD you did not select the option to include the OS 9 driver. This means that the HD is not accessible from OS 9 nor can it boot it. The fix for this is to reformat the HD and include the option. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Classic on Ruby Red iMac
On Nov 11, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: On Nov 10, 5:08 pm, Jim Scott jesco...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:59 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: I have a Ruby Red iMac that i am setting up for a 6 year old. It is G3, 400mhz. I installed a new hard drive and formatted it to 10.4, that's the OS her school runs on their iMacs.) I have also installed several learning games that need Classic. However, whenever I try to open one of these, I get a message that it cant find 9.2 to run Classic. I thought i had installed it during the 10.4 installation. Was there a separate option? How can i put in on the iMac now? Jane The 10.4 DVD contains support for Classic, but you will have to install 9.2.2 separately. Put in a 9.2.x disk while in Tiger, then select it as the startup disk in System Preferences and restart. Or restart and hold down the C key. Once booted to the OS 9 disk, install 9.2.x and then run Software Update until there's nothing left to update. You may find that the firmware needs to be updated; if so, consider yourself lucky that 10.4 ran OK. When you're happy with OS 9.2.2, select OS 10.4 as the startup disk in Control Panel, and restart in 10.4. Once there, go to System Preferences, select Classic and follow the prompts. One of the options is to always start up Classic when the iMac boots into 10.4. That lets you put Classic program icons on the desktop, and your little friend will be able to launch those apps without any problems. Of course, check them out first since some OS 9 apps don't run very well in Classic. If so, then you'll have lots of fun teaching a 6-year-old how to do the old dual-boot dance. Good luck! Jim Scott Jim, I have the CD of 9.0. Held down the C key and booted from the CD. The install attempt failed. I got a message that said I could not install 9 on the volume with 10.4 and to choose Options. The choice there was a Clean install and I don't really know what that entails, so I quit the installer. What did I miss doing? The iMac firmware is up to date. Jane, According to Apple, and verified by my experience, installation of Classic on an existing OS X volume requires at least OS 9.1, and preferably OS 9.2.1 or 9.2.2. That's what you missed. A Clean Install means just that, a complete new installation of an OS. The existing OS 9 System Folder then becomes Previous System Folder. So beg, borrow or purloin a copy of OS 9.1 or 9.2.1, then try it again. If it still doesn't work, save the OS X applications and other stuff you don't want to lose to an external hard drive. Then boot from the OS 9.1 or 9.2 disk, erase and initialize the hard drive, install OS 9.xx, run Software Update until it's done, then install OS X 10.4 and copy back the files you saved. I've put dozens upon dozens of dual-boot OS X/OS 9 G3 iMacs with Classic set up in classrooms and school computer labs, and I always start with a blank and tested-good hard drive onto which I first install OS 9.2.1, then update to 9.2.2, then install OS X. OS 9.2 was optimized to work with OS X; my experience with OS 9.1 in Classic is limited because I've found it problematic. It's possible to install OS 9.2.2 on a hard drive that's already got OS X installed, but you have to have checked the little box that installs OS 9 drivers on the hard drive when you first formatted/initialized the hard drive for the OS X install. So you may have to start from scratch, first with OS 9.1 or 9.2, then add OS X. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
