Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet
On 3/5/10 9:56 PM, Peter Kim wrote: I remember trying to get 1.5 Mb/s DSL 7 years ago, through SBC, now ATT, in suburban Chicago. I found out that I was too far away from the new optical fiber install, and had to settle for 768/256Kbs- the houses across the street could get up to 3 Mb/s. Ugh, I can't believe we're still talking about the same issues in this country- 7 years later. I was eventually able to get a 3 Mb/s line, now considered the middle package- but please, with optical fiber that's theoretically equivalent to child's play. Clear and Sprint WiMax look pretty good at this point. My DSL was supposed to be good for 1.5 MBps / 256 KBps IIRC. I was only getting maybe half that. I'm out on the edge of coverage but not far enough out to be near a B-Box. When I was having trouble with the service the tech said with the line I had I couldn't get any faster service. So I signed up with Cable. I had held off going that route because I don't like the cable company, but... I kind of wish I'd signed up a little sooner, all those linux distro downloads would have been much faster. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
Is it ok to ask about how to export settings etc from my QS Powermac 2002 0n Tiger latest to a new brand new Macbook with Snow Leopard here or should I ask in some Macbook group please? -- dorayme -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need help with setting up G4 for internet
On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Clark Martin wrote: On 3/5/10 9:56 PM, Peter Kim wrote: I remember trying to get 1.5 Mb/s DSL 7 years ago, through SBC, now ATT, in suburban Chicago. I found out that I was too far away from the new optical fiber install, and had to settle for 768/256Kbs- the houses across the street could get up to 3 Mb/s. Ugh, I can't believe we're still talking about the same issues in this country- 7 years later. I was eventually able to get a 3 Mb/s line, now considered the middle package- but please, with optical fiber that's theoretically equivalent to child's play. Clear and Sprint WiMax look pretty good at this point. My DSL was supposed to be good for 1.5 MBps / 256 KBps IIRC. I was only getting maybe half that. I'm out on the edge of coverage but not far enough out to be near a B-Box. When I was having trouble with the service the tech said with the line I had I couldn't get any faster service. So I signed up with Cable. I had held off going that route because I don't like the cable company, but... I kind of wish I'd signed up a little sooner, all those linux distro downloads would have been much faster. I have DSL at my shop and cable at home and cable rules hands down.The only trouble in my area is Time warner is the only one so they charge what they think they can get. We need competition in this OC market. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:19 AM, dorayme wrote: Is it ok to ask about how to export settings etc from my QS Powermac 2002 0n Tiger latest to a new brand new Macbook with Snow Leopard here or should I ask in some Macbook group please? -- dorayme Migration assistant should do it. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Dongle for CAD/CAM
Hi All I use a program that requires a Rainbow dongle and runs on OS9 I would like to run it in Classic 9 under Tiger, but the dongle needs an extension that boots at start up. I want to run it on my G5 PM but that machine will not boot OS9 Does anyone know a way around this dongle? I've tried for years to do this. The company that made it stopped supporting Mac in 1995. I refuse to own a Winbloze. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Who's using my network?
At 7:27 PM -0800 3/5/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Anybody know if there's a piece of software out there (for leopard 10.5.8) that will tell me who's using my network? I know it will probably only show an IP address, but that would be good. Jeff At 7:35 PM -0800 3/5/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: actually what I wanted to do is merely see when my niece is surfing on her laptop so that I don't pig bandwidth downloading stuff etc. Jeff If you're both on the same network segment, you could do some packet sniffing - watch for when the throw rate gets high. I've seen a number of commercial (expensive) packages that will do this. Haven't noticed any free/inexpensive ones tho. Some routers will let you set a quality of service - so you could de-prioritize yourself. With what application are you downloading? Some include bandwidth chokes, eg: most bittorrent clients. Is this an actual problem that you're seeing, or are you just trying to be nice to her in advance? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Who's using my network?
Dan wrote: At 7:27 PM -0800 3/5/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: If you're both on the same network segment, you could do some packet sniffing - watch for when the throw rate gets high. I've seen a number of commercial (expensive) packages that will do this. Haven't noticed any free/inexpensive ones tho. There is a little tool called wireshark. Used to be known as ethereal. Has a Mac Intel and PPC port. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Who's using my network?
At 7:03 AM -0800 3/6/2010, Al Poulin wrote: I use my eyeballs. My FiOS router and Airport Express are a few feet from where I'm sitting. If I want to know whether someone else in the house is using the Internet at the moment, I just look at the blinking lights. Ah, front panels! Love 'em. Sometimes das blinkenlights are good to have! (just so long as they don't come with spitzensparken). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Who's using my network?
At 9:16 AM -0600 3/6/2010, Dennis Myhand wrote: Dan wrote: At 7:27 PM -0800 3/5/2010, Jeffrey Engle wrote: If you're both on the same network segment, you could do some packet sniffing - watch for when the throw rate gets high. I've seen a number of commercial (expensive) packages that will do this. Haven't noticed any free/inexpensive ones tho. There is a little tool called wireshark. Wireshark does the sniffing (actually grabs input from tools you already have, like tcpdump) then does some nice analysis. I don't recall that gave any rate or bandwidth use information, or provided any hooks to let you take actions thereon; been a while since I played with it tho. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Airport extreme - How to extend my network?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: So, here's the deal.. I'd like very much to extend my network. Is there a way to do this? I use a current Airport Extreme Base Station mounted high on my wall inside my 14x55 mobile home and I'd like to share my internet with my niece who lives in another mobile home 75 yards give or take away... 75 yards!?!?!?! with 802.11g !?!?!?! :-) ~~! ROTHF LMAO !~~ :-) BTW, are you sure your niece is connecting to *your* network. You ARE using the highest level of wireless security you can, aren't you? (Hopefully WPA2). And non-trivial shared keys? (You can generate a random enough key by using tools on the Internet. For example, https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm currently she gets about 2 bars on her macbook. Is there a way of getting her 4 bars? by mounting some kind of antenna on the outside of the house? if so, where would I plug it into? It's amazing (to me) that she manages to get a signal as strong as that given the distance and the obstructions between your niece and your router. Probably a result of having mounting it high up on your wall. Again, I hope you are doing the most you can to secure this network because if the signal is that strong at that distance it's also a potential temptation to anyone else in a 75 yard radius (as in circle) of your home. You didn't say which flavor/version/vintage of the Airport Extreme you are using. But IIRC all of them are sealed models with the antennas inside the case. You'd have to open the case (voiding any warranty) and then fiddle around with the internal antenna connectors to mount an external. Is that really a route you want to try to take? As for the previous suggestion to try using Wireless Distribution System (WDS) you should first understand that, depending on how it is set up, WDS would probably cut your throughput by half. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Distribution_System But even skipping the potential throughput hit, I wasn't at all clear how WDS could be useful in your situation. Certainly you wouldn't want to try to mount an intermediate repeater unit outside of your respective homes, would you??? How would you be able to secure it? Don't know if they will help but here are some links to some generic wireless usage tutorials. How To Fix Your Wireless Network - Part 1 http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30182/98/ How To Fix Your Wireless Network - Part 2: Site Surveying http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30198/98/ How To Fix Your Wireless Network - Part 3: Increasing Coverage http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/30225-how-to-fix-your-wireless-network-part-3-increasing-coverage How To Fix Your Wireless Network - Part 4: Antennas http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/30546-how-to-fix-your-wireless-network-part-4-antennas -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Who's using my network?
On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: My internet provider verizon dsl, has a browser page that gives who's connected. Input address is http://192.168.1.1 ... maybe yours has one? I think it would be more accurate to say that my wireless capable Westell Versalink 327W dsl modem, allows verizon dsl to have a network monitoring page, and Preference setting tabs, for the various home LAN settings. Resampling the network every few seconds, it shows info such as: Broadband Connection Internet Status: Connected DSL link: Connected Speed (Down/Up): 864 Kbits/sec by 160 Kbits/sec Connection Type: PPP Username: insightinmind IP Address: 72.86.8.223 and what the OP wanted, who's on the Network: Computer Name: MAC00039352BC2A Connection Type: (Connected Icon) Ethernet IP Address: 192.168.1.46 Unknown Name: 00:03:93:86:BB:D2 Connection Type: (Not connected Icon) Ethernet IP Address: 192.168.1.45 Unknown Name: 00:11:A3:03:26:3A Connection Type: (Not connected Icon) Wireless IP Address: 192.168.1.47 I can rename the Computer Names, but lose the info when I turn off the modem. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
WPA
Hi All What is a good reason to have a WPA password for my NETGEAR when all my machines require an administrator password to connect to them. I don't think anyone could connect to any of them just because they could use my cable modem??The reason I ask is because the routers I have will not allow WPA on AirPort b cards. And I don't even want to try and use a WEP. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA carmo...@aol,com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: WPA
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:00 PM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: What is a good reason to have a WPA password for my NETGEAR when all my machines require an administrator password to connect to them. The Wireless Access Point (WAP) password on your Netgear router has nothing (directly) to do with access to the systems on your network. It is used to restrict/control access to the network itself. The primary reason I can think of to use the strongest wireless connection security you can is to prevent others from accessing the Internet via your router. Most people don't like to receive cease and desist letters from their ISP because they've been (surprise!) downloading movies illegally. Sure you would never do that, but how about someone who happens to be pirating your Internet to pirate movies? A secondary concern is they might be able to access/hack into your systems even though the systems are password protected. You can argue the probabilities of that happening all your want, but frankly I'd prefer to just not give anyone the possibility of being on the network rather than trusting that the machines on the network will be secure enough. A final consideration which doesn't sound like it applies in your case pertains to using 802.11n. Connecting a client with 802.11n using either WEP or WPA (vs WPA2) limits the throughput. The reason for this is that the 802.11n spec restricts any client to at *most* 802.11g throughput unless it is either not using any type of encryption (which is absurd) or is using WPA2 (and I think also AES ???). -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Airport extreme - How to extend my network?
At 11:11 AM -0500 3/6/2010, iJohn wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: So, here's the deal.. I'd like very much to extend my network. Is there a way to do this? I use a current Airport Extreme Base Station mounted high on my wall inside my 14x55 mobile home and I'd like to share my internet with my niece who lives in another mobile home 75 yards give or take away... 75 yards!?!?!?! with 802.11g !?!?!?! :-) ~~! ROTHF LMAO !~~ :-) Companies such as SMC make higher powered WAPs that could be used to bridge such distances with no problemo. A burried cat5 would be faster/cheaper tho. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Bulk] Re: Who's using my network?
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:12 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: My internet provider verizon dsl, has a browser page that gives who's connected. Input address is http://192.168.1.1 ... maybe yours has one? I think it would be more accurate to say that my wireless capable Westell Versalink 327W dsl modem, allows verizon dsl to have a network monitoring page, and Preference setting tabs, for the various home LAN settings. FWIW, all of the support for this is inside your combo router/DSL modem. Verison and/or Verizon DSL is not involved in this at all. The 192.168.1.1 address is the address of the router on your internal network. Listing the systems is a standard feature on every router I can remember working with. Certainly so on any made/sold within the the last 5 years or so I'd guess. (Don't know if this feature still works if DHCP is not enabled on the router. I've never been in a situation where I had any need/reason to turn off a router's DHCP support). -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On 3/6/10 5:26 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I use a program that requires a Rainbow dongle and runs on OS9 I would like to run it in Classic 9 under Tiger, but the dongle needs an extension that boots at start up. I want to run it on my G5 PM but that machine will not boot OS9 Does anyone know a way around this dongle? I've tried for years to do this. The company that made it stopped supporting Mac in 1995. I refuse to own a Winbloze. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Greetings: There are only 2 ways 2 run an older program like that - on a G5, in classic OS9, or find yourself one or the fastest G4's that will boot OS9, like the Quicksilvers. Can you be a bit more specific? What application is it, and how does the Rainbow dongle physically plug in? I'm running MiniCAD 6 here on a G5 in classic mode on my G5, but it doesn't require a dongle. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: WPA
At 12:26 PM -0500 3/6/2010, iJohn wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:00 PM, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: What is a good reason to have a WPA password for my NETGEAR when all my machines require an administrator password to connect to them. It's the same reason you put a lock on your front door, in addition to the lock on your desk drawer. Or the lock on your car door, in addition to the ignition lock. Or... The primary reason I can think of to use the strongest wireless connection security you can is to prevent others from accessing the Internet via your router. Most people don't like to receive cease and desist letters from their ISP because they've been (surprise!) downloading movies illegally. Sure you would never do that, but how about someone who happens to be pirating your Internet to pirate movies? I think a desist letter is the good news version. I'd be more worried about the policia SWAT team raiding your home in the wee hours, because they found someone trading kiddie porn from your IP... Leaving your service open creates a bad liability. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Who's using my network?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:35 PM, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: actually what I wanted to do is merely see when my niece is surfing on her laptop so that I don't pig bandwidth downloading stuff etc. Jeff Why don't you just IM (instant message) your niece before starting a big download. You could work out the details for this by talking it over with her. And as Dan already pointed out, is this really a problem or are you just making work for yourself? I've never noticed any problems with surfing while also downloading. What sort of Internet bandwidth is your ISP giving you. (Hint: google around for the Internet sites which let you test your upload/download bandwidth). -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Airport extreme - How to extend my network?
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Companies such as SMC make higher powered WAPs that could be used to bridge such distances with no problemo. Perhaps, but what do they cost? My perhaps incorrect assumption is that once you leave the realm of basic home networking routers/WAPs the prices jump to another range rather quickly. (Though perhaps you could get something for 802.11g which was previously owned for less money now that the move to 802.11n is (possibly) happening). Folks keep saying there are higher power WAPs out there. I'd appreciate it if they would also include a few model numbers so we could get an idea what price points and hardware specs they are thinking of. A buried cat5 would be faster/cheaper tho. Amen to that! Wired still always beats wireless in lots of ways. Not as convenient though. Especially if you're trying to route the cable through a trailer park. Besides being a PIA lot of work to do even only somewhat properly the owner of the trailer park might not be as supportive of this project as one might hope for. (Well, then again maybe the OP is the owner? ;-) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: On 3/6/10 5:26 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I use a program that requires a Rainbow dongle and runs on OS9 I would like to run it in Classic 9 under Tiger, but the dongle needs an extension that boots at start up. I want to run it on my G5 PM but that machine will not boot OS9 Does anyone know a way around this dongle? I've tried for years to do this. The company that made it stopped supporting Mac in 1995. I refuse to own a Winbloze. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Greetings: There are only 2 ways 2 run an older program like that - on a G5, in classic OS9, or find yourself one or the fastest G4's that will boot OS9, like the Quicksilvers. Can you be a bit more specific? What application is it, and how does the Rainbow dongle physically plug in? I'm running MiniCAD 6 here on a G5 in classic mode on my G5, but it doesn't require a dongle. Stephen The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM it doesn't boot OS9 and the dongle needs to boot at start up. So I have to boot 9 to use it, I have plenty of dual boot OS9 Tiger machines, but I'd like to include the use of my PM G5s also, hence the need for a dongle crack. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Airport extreme - How to extend my network?
On Mar 6, 2010, at 10:11 AM, iJohn wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Companies such as SMC make higher powered WAPs that could be used to bridge such distances with no problemo. Perhaps, but what do they cost? My perhaps incorrect assumption is that once you leave the realm of basic home networking routers/WAPs the prices jump to another range rather quickly. (Though perhaps you could get something for 802.11g which was previously owned for less money now that the move to 802.11n is (possibly) happening). Folks keep saying there are higher power WAPs out there. I'd appreciate it if they would also include a few model numbers so we could get an idea what price points and hardware specs they are thinking of. Yes, that would be cool... to refresh here, the equipment I'm using currently is the Airport extreme base station (current). A buried cat5 would be faster/cheaper tho. Amen to that! Wired still always beats wireless in lots of ways. Not as convenient though. Especially if you're trying to route the cable through a trailer park. Besides being a PIA lot of work to do even only somewhat properly the owner of the trailer park might not be as supportive of this project as one might hope for. (Well, then again maybe the OP is the owner? ;-) Nope, I'm just a renter:-) Jeff -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Airport extreme - How to extend my network?
At 1:11 PM -0500 3/6/2010, iJohn wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Companies such as SMC make higher powered WAPs that could be used to bridge such distances with no problemo. Perhaps, but what do they cost? My perhaps incorrect assumption is that once you leave the realm of basic home networking routers/WAPs the prices jump to another range rather quickly. (Though perhaps you could get something for 802.11g which was previously owned for less money now that the move to 802.11n is (possibly) happening). Folks keep saying there are higher power WAPs out there. I'd appreciate it if they would also include a few model numbers so we could get an idea what price points and hardware specs they are thinking of. Google is your friend. Looks like they start at around $40 and quite a few vendors make 'em, beyond SMC. http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=home+office+router+high+power The metric to look for is the transceiver's power. Indoor/home units typically transmit only 50 milliWatts. Serious outdoor units do 100 to 800 milliWatts. Something along the lines of 200 mW is probably about right for this application. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:23 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM it doesn't boot OS9 and the dongle needs to boot at start up. So I have to boot 9 to use it, I have plenty of dual boot OS9 Tiger machines, but I'd like to include the use of my PM G5s also, hence the need for a dongle crack. I agree with Stephen, your best bet is to stick with the OS9 capable system, or search for a different CAM solution, and Mac-wise, it doesn't look too promising out there. Any particular reason you want/need to use the G5? -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:19 AM, dorayme wrote: Is it ok to ask about how to export settings etc from my QS Powermac 2002 0n Tiger latest to a new brand new Macbook with Snow Leopard here or should I ask in some Macbook group please? Migration Assistant. You SHOULD be asked during the setup for the new Macbook. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:23 PM, John Carmonne wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM it doesn't boot OS9 and the dongle needs to boot at start up. So I have to boot 9 to use it, I have plenty of dual boot OS9 Tiger machines, but I'd like to include the use of my PM G5s also, hence the need for a dongle crack. Just to ask the most basic question. You say the extension needs to load at start up. Have you tried putting it in your classic OS folder so that when classic starts, it sees the dongle at startup? Since the dongle will be seen when OS 9 starts up, and the app runs in classic, that may qualify as available at startup. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On 6 Mar 2010, at 11:14:10 PST, Bruce Johnson wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM - I wouldn't think you could readily connect an ADB device of any kind to a G5. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:23 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM it doesn't boot OS9 and the dongle needs to boot at start up. So I have to boot 9 to use it, I have plenty of dual boot OS9 Tiger machines, but I'd like to include the use of my PM G5s also, hence the need for a dongle crack. I agree with Stephen, your best bet is to stick with the OS9 capable system, or search for a different CAM solution, and Mac-wise, it doesn't look too promising out there. Any particular reason you want/need to use the G5? Well because it's there and if there are cracked Virtual Gibbs for PCs. So then I need some one who can go into the code to disable the EVE extension for the dongle. I have an earlier version that i can bypass the dongle with a date/ password combo but the v5.0 doesn't buy it. This is not some hobby type software it's a manufacturing standard. Original cost is $14,000.00 I own the stuff legally but they refuse to support the Macs after 1995 and I think they should open the access to us dongle challenged owners. So we can use newer Macs. Like I said I have a lot of macs that will run 7.5 to 9.2.2 but it'd be kinda nice to run it without booting 9. I was hoping to find a way to get the extension to load properly as Classic is starting. All my other shop programs run in classic mode but this because of the dongle. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:19 AM, dorayme wrote: Is it ok to ask about how to export settings etc from my QS Powermac 2002 0n Tiger latest to a new brand new Macbook with Snow Leopard here or should I ask in some Macbook group please? Migration Assistant. You SHOULD be asked during the setup for the new Macbook. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD I just thought of something I know the new MBPs no longer have FW ports so how do you use Migration Assistant with a QS to a new MBP? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:23 PM, John Carmonne wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM it doesn't boot OS9 and the dongle needs to boot at start up. So I have to boot 9 to use it, I have plenty of dual boot OS9 Tiger machines, but I'd like to include the use of my PM G5s also, hence the need for a dongle crack. Just to ask the most basic question. You say the extension needs to load at start up. Have you tried putting it in your classic OS folder so that when classic starts, it sees the dongle at startup? Since the dongle will be seen when OS 9 starts up, and the app runs in classic, that may qualify as available at startup. Len Yes that's where it lives. I have the same OS9 package on all the machines, regardless of booting capabilities. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 6 Mar 2010, at 11:14:10 PST, Bruce Johnson wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM - I wouldn't think you could readily connect an ADB device of any kind to a G5. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs I never thought of that, I use Griffin iMate with the G3s and G4s. It works seamlessly on those boxes. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:51 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I just thought of something I know the new MBPs no longer have FW ports so how do you use Migration Assistant with a QS to a new MBP? The new MacBook Pros have a FireWire (800) port: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/index- macbookpro.html -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Fabian Fang wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:51 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I just thought of something I know the new MBPs no longer have FW ports so how do you use Migration Assistant with a QS to a new MBP? The new MacBook Pros have a FireWire (800) port: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/index-macbookpro.html I guess I meant the new MacBook. So how does migration Assistant work on the new MacBook? I'm kinda sure it does but I'm wondering how. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
Ethernet. It's slow, and doesn't always work well. Mikeal Palulis Kallisti Medias On Mar 6, 2010, at 3:35 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 12:22 PM, Fabian Fang wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:51 AM, John Carmonne wrote: I just thought of something I know the new MBPs no longer have FW ports so how do you use Migration Assistant with a QS to a new MBP? The new MacBook Pros have a FireWire (800) port: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/index-macbookpro.html I guess I meant the new MacBook. So how does migration Assistant work on the new MacBook? I'm kinda sure it does but I'm wondering how. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
Is it ok to ask about how to export settings etc from my QS Powermac 2002 0n Tiger latest to a new brand new Macbook with Snow Leopard here or should I ask in some Macbook group please? John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com Mar 06 12:30AM -0800 ^ Migration assistant should do it. Yes, that is what I wanted to ask about. I tried this and got into a complete mess. -- dorayme -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
On Mar 6, 2010, at 2:04 PM, dorayme wrote: Is it ok to ask about how to export settings etc from my QS Powermac 2002 0n Tiger latest to a new brand new Macbook with Snow Leopard here or should I ask in some Macbook group please? John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com Mar 06 12:30AM -0800 ^ Migration assistant should do it. Yes, that is what I wanted to ask about. I tried this and got into a complete mess. -- dorayme What type of mess are you talking about? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com Mar 06 11:51AM -0800 ^ On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Migration Assistant. You SHOULD be asked during the setup for the new Macbook. I just thought of something I know the new MBPs no longer have FW ports so how do you use Migration Assistant with a QS to a new MBP? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA I first began by connecting my MB (on Snow) to my internet network coming out of my G4 (on Tiger). I went to Migrant Assistant on both machines. Yes there were instructions but I got cold feet because of the length of time it said to do the job - need my G4 for work all the time! Truth is I just don't know how all this stuff works! I realised later that I should not tick the apps for transfer, that would save much time. Was going to go offline and try to connect ethernet cable directly between G4 and MB when I had the idea of simply using the FW/USB external backup I always use (on FW) to back up the G4 via SuperDuper. So I grabbed the external HD and connected a USB cable to MB and went to Migrant Assistant. Took less than an hour with Apps not ticked! I unhooked the external HD then and looked at the MB. The result? Confusion! At least confusion in me! It stuck most of the transfer from the G4 into a folder. It did something to the MB settings too because when I came to log on again with the MB there were were new login accounts. When I went into the normal prior MB user account, I saw no new expected bookmarks in my Cyberduck, no usual expected mail boxes in Mail. I have got half success by going to individual programs and trying to tell them to import from this or that folder/file (which at least is now on my MB due to the actions of Migrant Assistant). I got more success by tracking down files from the G4 library and simply copying them to replace things on the MB (stuff like Favorites.plist and Queue.plist)! But I was hoping that somehow there would be a more global automatic way of succeeding! -- dorayme -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL
On Mar 6, 2010, at 2:37 PM, dorayme wrote: John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com Mar 06 11:51AM -0800 ^ On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Migration Assistant. You SHOULD be asked during the setup for the new Macbook. I just thought of something I know the new MBPs no longer have FW ports so how do you use Migration Assistant with a QS to a new MBP? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA I first began by connecting my MB (on Snow) to my internet network coming out of my G4 (on Tiger). I went to Migrant Assistant on both machines. Yes there were instructions but I got cold feet because of the length of time it said to do the job - need my G4 for work all the time! Truth is I just don't know how all this stuff works! I realised later that I should not tick the apps for transfer, that would save much time. Was going to go offline and try to connect ethernet cable directly between G4 and MB when I had the idea of simply using the FW/USB external backup I always use (on FW) to back up the G4 via SuperDuper. So I grabbed the external HD and connected a USB cable to MB and went to Migrant Assistant. Took less than an hour with Apps not ticked! I unhooked the external HD then and looked at the MB. The result? Confusion! At least confusion in me! It stuck most of the transfer from the G4 into a folder. It did something to the MB settings too because when I came to log on again with the MB there were were new login accounts. When I went into the normal prior MB user account, I saw no new expected bookmarks in my Cyberduck, no usual expected mail boxes in Mail. I have got half success by going to individual programs and trying to tell them to import from this or that folder/file (which at least is now on my MB due to the actions of Migrant Assistant). I got more success by tracking down files from the G4 library and simply copying them to replace things on the MB (stuff like Favorites.plist and Queue.plist)! But I was hoping that somehow there would be a more global automatic way of succeeding! f -- dorayme Well this sounds so complicated to me.; I would start all over. I assume you still have the QS intact, I would start with a brand new untouched MacBook Pro and just let Migration Assistant do what it does best. When asked to migrate say yes and tell it where the Mac is and go somewhere Don't try to second guess this stuff unless you know what it all means. After It's done you'll have a system as close as your QS as Snow Leopard will allow. If it's not up to par you haven't lost anything because the QS is still intact :-D John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
