Re: Change machine specific installer requirements
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:33:17 -0700, John Carmonne wrote: Pirating? I bought and paid for and own this stuff plain and simple. Legally you do not own the software, you have a license to use it within the bounds of Apple's user agreement. Unfortunately Apple's user agreement prohibits using software restore discs for machines it was not intended for, or to use them for more than one machine unless you have some sort of bulk license such as a family pack or a commercial license. Whether we like it or not, using Apple's software in violation of their user agreement is illegal just as it is illegal to do the same with MS, Adobe, or any other software. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disc Burning
JOHN CARMONNE wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5 (maybe Intel iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe? Buffalo, which has a Sony Optiarc super multi-burner inside a well designed case. NewEgg no longer carries it, but it has a Lite-On which meets your requirements ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106342 I generally use internal SATA drives wherever possible, but having handy a USB burner, especially if it is bootable (as the Buffalo is) can be nice. I just bought a LITE-ON 22X DVD Writer Black IDE Model iHAP422-98 LightScribe Support form Newegg for $24.00. for my PM G5 to replace a Pioneer CD?DVD burner. IIRC, non-oem ODDs don't function with the iLife apps. At least I think it used to be that way, haven't heard it mentioned in a long time. I think there used to be a hack called 'Fair Burn' or something that would fool the iLife apps into thinking your ODD had Apple firmware but I can't seem to find it on the web. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: plain text please
Dan wrote: HTML email is often done by hardcoding the font sizes. That means your email will ALWAYS be unreadable to someone. HTML email ONLY looks good if the receiver has the SAME type of mail client you do. That means your email will ALWAYS be unreadable to someone. I'm curious, how does RTF fits into the discussion? Is Mail.app's RTF format really HTML? Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Disc Burning
Eric Herbert wrote: On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tina K. wrote: IIRC, non-oem ODDs don't function with the iLife apps. At least I think it used to be that way, haven't heard it mentioned in a long time. I think there used to be a hack called 'Fair Burn' or something that would fool the iLife apps into thinking your ODD had Apple firmware but I can't seem to find it on the web. For a very long time that was the case, but since 10.5 any drive will do. The software you're remembering is PatchBurnhttp://www.patchburn.de/ NEC, LG, and Lite-ON drives don't require PatchBurn with 10.3 or later. Some brands do such as Sony and Pioneer (non Apple ROMed versions), but the previously stated 3 don't require it. Thank you both, that is good information to know. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Change machine specific installer requirements
Kyle Hansen wrote: Sorry. Mistyped that last one. To follow up on my message, I was thinking of Leopard. Too many felines… Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Video card upgrade
Jeffrey Engle wrote: I currently am using the below stock video card OEM. I'd like to have a card that would support a 30 display (not a flashed card please) What card (Apple please) would be a nice upgrade for my early 2005 G5 power Mac? Jeff My June 2004 2.0 DP is nearly identical except for the expansion slots (June 04 has two 100 MHz 64 bit PCI-X, one 133 MHz 64 bit PCI-X and one 8x AGP Pro where the Early 2005 has three 33 MHz 64 bit PCI, two 100 MHz 64 bit PCI-X and one 8x AGP Pro) and the ODD. It came with an NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra w/256 MB VRAM and 2 dual-link DVI that drives a 23 Al CD. I stress the machine hard running the CPUs at 100% 24/7 and the video card performs very well. Of course Flash is still not great but that is never going to change for PPC Macs. This card was offered on both the June 2004 and the Early 2005 Power Macs. According to Mactracker the June 2004 Power Mac was also available with an NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT DDL that also has 256 MB VRAM and 2 dual-link DVI. For some reason this card was not offered on the Early 2005. Either one of these cards is probably going to be VERY pricey new, Apple's price for a replacement 6800 Ultra is about $600. That would be enough to cause me to take a serious look at flashed PC cards even though they can be a crap shoot. Here is a review of the 6800 Ultra: http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/Graphics/mac_6800ultra_review/index.html HTH, Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15 DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB PC2 4200 DDR2 RAM, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR VRAM Power Mac June 04, PPC 970fx DP @2.0 GHz, 8 GB PC 3200 DDR RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB VRAM -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Video card upgrade
Sorry, I thought you had a 2.0 GHz DP. The correct expansion slots for your 2.3 GHz DP are two 100 MHz 64 bit PCI-X, one 133 MHz 64 bit PCI-X, and one 8x AGP Pro. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15 DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB PC2 4200 DDR2 RAM, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR VRAM Power Mac June 04, PPC 970fx DP @2.0 GHz, 8 GB PC 3200 DDR RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Video card upgrade
Mac User #330250 wrote: There is a ATI Radeon X800 Mac Edition, but it costs quite a large amount of $$$ on eBay, so I'd reconsider twice. Also, I'm not sure about the screen resolution it supports for your proposed Apple display. Your post caused me to look around and I too found the ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition, from what I've read it's a little bit better than the GeForce 6800 Ultra and cheaper too. If I had to replace my 6800 Ultra I think the X800 XT is what I would go with. Luckily my Power Mac is still under warranty if you can believe that. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15 DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB PC2 4200 DDR2 RAM, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR VRAM Power Mac June 04, PPC 970fx DP @2.0 GHz, 8 GB PC 3200 DDR RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
Amanda Ward wrote: Wasn't this supposed to go away? Yes, this thread has been killed twice now. PLEASE STOP! Take it off list if you must. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15 DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB PC2 4200 DDR2 RAM, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR VRAM Power Mac June 04, PPC 970fx DP @2.0 GHz, 8 GB PC 3200 DDR RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB VRAM -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Plain text format
Dan wrote: At 4:20 PM -0600 7/19/2010, Tina K. wrote: Amanda Ward wrote: Wasn't this supposed to go away? Yes, this thread has been killed twice now. PLEASE STOP! Take it off list if you must. This is not that other thread. Do you have an objection to a reasonable discussion about how fonting and such works in emails? Sorry, in my client both similar subjects are lumped together. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, PPC 7455 @ 1.25 GHz, 2 GB PC 2700 RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR VRAM PowerBook 15 DL-SD, PPC 7447B @ 1.67 GHz, 2 GB PC2 4200 DDR2 RAM, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR VRAM Power Mac June 04, PPC 970fx DP @2.0 GHz, 8 GB PC 3200 DDR RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB VRAM -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Iamanamma wrote: if in the time you've had these iMacs, they have had any firmware updates through Software Update, that might render their original O/S cds not installable... Ted Hi Ted: Of course I did updates, because Software Update demanded it. FYI, firmware updates and software updates are not the same thing. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: proper mic for iMic on a G5
Charles Lenington wrote: I am trying to use iMic on a G5 with a headset w/ mic. All the sets I find so far, have a stereo mic plug. Has anyone seen a headset w/ a mono plug. Or will a stereo to mono adapter work? Why do you want a mono headset? A stereo headset can be very helpful in a game such as WoW, if you hear something approaching it's good to know from which side. I use a stereo headset via iMic when I play UT2004 on my G5 PowerMac and it works just fine, I don't know of any reason it wouldn't work on an iMac too. If you truly have your heart set on a mono headset a stereo mono adapter should do the job. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VersionTracker folds
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 18:32:54 -0700 (PDT), Cliff Rediger wrote: Did you notice where VersionTracker has been folded into CNET download.com ? Now the noise of all those advertisements and the general feel isn't as simple. so it goes I came across that the other day when I was looking for an older version of something, one feature of VT that I did like. I've never been a fan of download.com/cnet and I really can't see myself ever using that site again, it's just awful. How can the Windows users stand it? Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: External Fax Modem for G5
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:31:38 -0400, Arnel Tuazon wrote: Hey folks, I have a late 2005 2.3GHz dual core G5. I wanted to get a fax modem for it and was told that my only option was for an external USB modem. However, I have read that my current OS (10.5.8) does not play well with external modems and that the built-in Fax software of OS X will not recognize external fax modems. Is this true? What are my other fax options? Though I have not used it with my G5 as I don't send faxes anymore, PageSender worked very well for me in the past with my G4's built-in modem. It can send recieve faxes directly or through any of it's supported fax services. You can use it for free although it will put a watermark on the fax. Paying the license fee removes the watermark. http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/8172/pagesender-fax-center Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD 867 vs 1.0
On 2010/09/26 22:50, Bequette Jeff wrote: I have 2 machines, both MDD, 1 an 867ghzdp the other a 1ghzdp. The 1ghz machine has a dead mother board. Can I swap the processors 1.0 the 867 machine? Or should I look at swapping the motherboards? Sometimes Apple used the very same CPUs and MBs on different speed rated machines, the difference being the resistors on the MB. It might be possible to 'overclock' the 867 board but you have to be good at soldering on a circuit board and know exactly what you're doing. Perhaps a replacement MB would be the safest way to go. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mail address export import
On 2010/09/28 10:05, Bruce Johnson wrote: To synch everything between multiple macs, the simplest is via MobileMe's synchronization function. If you are running 10.5 or above there is also the free synch application/service fruux: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/28750/fruux fruux will also synch iCal calendars, Safari bookmarks, and Mail notes. I use it and it's not perfect (sometimes synch fails) but for as often I change machines it works great. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 coolant leak
On 2010/09/28 13:59, Kyle Hansen wrote: I have horror story pictures of leaky G5's if you want to see them... Mixing liquid with high temperatures and electronic components just never appealed to me. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube USB 2.0 possible?
On 2010/09/29 10:39, John Markowitz wrote: I read on another post that the AirPort original card is a PCMCIA card if so than the Airport slot would also be a PCMCIA connection? So can I plug in one of my PIMCIA USB 2.0 cards in The Cube and have 2.0 ports? The Cube uses an Ethernet connection for the net so I have no use for the AirPort slot. I'm sure modification of the cage would be required and I'm up for that. One of my cards is a flush card so all that I'd need to do is make clearance for a cable leading to a hub. I believe if you read that thread thoroughly you will find that the slot is not a true PIMCIA slot, but rather only accommodates Apple's modified PIMCIA original AirPort card. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube USB 2.0 possible?
On 2010/09/25 10:41, John Markowitz wrote: Is there a way to have USB 2.0 on a Cube G4 with some type of addition? I've never used or even inspected a Cube but looking at Mactracker I'm guessing no. I think there is one or more Cube enthusiast sites around, maybe they have a work around. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Another Quicksilver Question
On 2010/09/29 22:51, Stephen Conrad wrote: Whenever I put in a CD with stuff on it (NOT a CD you buy with music on it) it is a crap shoot if the machine will recognize it. Some it gives me two options (Ignore or Eject) and some it never says anything nor do they show up on my desktop. I have a similar issue with my USB 2 iMac. It sees factory pressed discs just fine but burned discs, even those that I burned on that very machine, it doesn't see 9 times out of 10. I've used a 'cleaning' disk, and I've disassembled the ODD and cleaned it with a q-tip isopropyl alcohol to no avail. I'm guessing that your CD-RW is fairly old anyway, for about $17 plus tax at NewEgg you can get a DVD-RW and probably save some time effort. Just my 2¢. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Camino
On 2010/10/05 00:46, Mike Linnett wrote: Agreed, camino seems to have lost something lately. I did stumble upon omniweb last night and it seems pretty good, but then I only used it for half an hour! I've been using OmniWeb since v4 for it's features, it can use a lot of RAM too but then I usually have about 15 tabs open all day. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Quicksilver CD-ROM
On 2010/10/05 03:50, Eric Herbert wrote: When it's asking if you want to Initialize, Ignore, or Eject, it means that either there is no data on the disc (never was burned), or if there is data on the disc, it's in a format the computer flat out doesn't understand is actually data (a corrupted or incomplete burn). If the drive is reading other discs normally, it's the disc, not the drive. Not necessarily. As I mentioned before I have had the very same problem with the ODD in my iMac but those same discs will read fine on my PM or PB. Even discs that the iMac just burned moments before can behave this way. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Just got my first apple desktop!
On 2010/10/05 16:20, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I am a big MDD G4 fan myself, beautiful machine. Are the MDDs really as loud as their 'Wind Tunnel' nickname would suggest? How loud are they compared to a PM G5 with fans at full speed? Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Just got my first apple desktop!
On 2010/10/05 16:58, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 5, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/05 16:20, JoeTaxpayer wrote: I am a big MDD G4 fan myself, beautiful machine. Are the MDDs really as loud as their 'Wind Tunnel' nickname would suggest? How loud are they compared to a PM G5 with fans at full speed? The earliest ones were, but Apple issued an updated hardware fix very quickly so there's very few that are really loud any more. Thank you Bruce. Looking at Mactracker I see that the MDD FW 800 was available with 1.42 GHz DP, but the MDD 2003 DP was only available at 1.25 GHz, was there an issue with the 1.42 DP? Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to change the serial number?
On 2010/10/05 18:32, Jeffrey Engle wrote: I have a Mdd G4 that I want to change the serial number on? can I do that? and if so, how? I can't say for sure, but I can tell you this much. My USB 2 iMac was a refurb that was flashed with bad ROM or something that prevented the display from waking from sleep. Apple reflashed or replaced the logic board and assigned a new SN to the machine physically (a label), but not electronically. I fought with them tooth nail trying to get a SN that could be read by the OS, long story short it still doesn't have one. I'm pretty sure that it is extremely difficult - impossible to change the SN, that makes it harder to hide stolen hardware, cheat on warranty, etc… Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 Power Supply variations
On 2010/10/07 12:11, Dan wrote: Unless the repair is very simple and inexpensive, I'd just replace 'em. Can MDD PSUs be replaced with a common ATX PSU with nothing more than a connector swap, or do they have a specialized output like the G3 iMacs did to power the sound? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thinking of buying a G5 dual for PR but quick question
On 2010/10/07 18:52, bryan adkins wrote: I am thinking of scooping up locally a powermac G5 2.0 DP PCI-X 2 with bad cpu it has been tested at apple and thats what the tech told the owner. My question is can I purchase a different CPU like a 1.8 and install it? Any help would be useful and if I'm asking a poor question just inform me thanks much for the help. I'm totally guessing here but if it is indeed a DP, and not a DC, running one CPU at 2.0 GHz and the other at a different speed would not be my first choice of 'fixes.' I would think that a replacement single core 2.0 GHz would be the safest way to go, maybe someone with more experience can elaborate on your options. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Over clocking G4
On 2010/10/08 10:09, stevo137 wrote: I have a G4 Power PC and I am wondering if you can over clock it and how safe is it? That depends. If you are thinking of adjusting voltage and clock timings in 'BIOS' the answer is no. Certain models used resisters on the logic board to set CPU speed, bus speed, etc… But those are older models and it's not as easy as overclocking in the Windows world. And then there were some CPU upgrades available for some Mac models that would increase the CPU clock speed, but you were still stuck with a fairly slow bus speed. There have been some successful board transplants, such as a 1.25 GHz board into a 1 GHz Power Mac, or a 1.25 GHz board into a 700/800 MHz iMac. Your options depend entirely on what MODEL of Mac you have and WHICH G4 Power PC is in it. The list can be of more help if you are more specific in your request. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to burn VIDEO_TS
On 2010/10/11 14:35, Brian Fuelleman wrote: Is there a way to adjust the volume on files prior to burning them to DVD? You can boost audio in an audio editor such as Audacity, Peak, Sound Studio, Amadeus Pro, WavePad, etc… (Audacity and WavePad are free) There is a learning curve with audio editors just as with video and graphic editors. I strongly suggest you back up the file first and then experiment with the audio, simply boosting the level may not give satisfactory results. You might need to apply normalization, noise reduction, or other 'effects' to get clear sound. Most audio editors include a few VST plugins, if they don't give the effect you need there are a lot of free VST plugins you can find with a Google search. They can give your audio editor the ability to enhance the sound to your liking. Apple includes some Plugins either with the OS, GarageBand, Soundtrack and/or Final Cut Express (I've had them for so long that I don't remember where they came from). Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Intall syetem using DMG
On 2010/10/13 03:26, Gottick International wrote: I'm trying to install X5 on a machine that won't accept the newer, larger, DVDs. I have moved a X.5 .dmg to the computer's hd and now I'm trying to reboot the whole machine from the dmg. Is that even possible? Iv'e been told so. As Kris said, you cannot boot from the drive that you are going to install to. If you have a second Mac you can install to the first Mac using Firewire Target Disk Mode (connect the two Macs with a firewire cable, restart the 'target' mac holding down the 'T' key, as soon as the Mac's hard drive shows up in the other Mac's Finder sidebar as an external drive you can install). It sounds convoluted but it really isn't. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Hardware test results on my G4 eMac - Memory issue?
On 2010/10/11 16:37, wren so eloquently wrote: Last week, I got my first ever kernel panic. Screen said, you must shut down ... etc. I ran everything I knew how to for diagnostics - which was only the Utilities and then Onyx to clear all caches and tidy up stuff. It ran smoothly after this so I thought it was okay again. Today it crashed with same kernel panic. But - when I forced reboot, it would only show the apple icon and spinning thing - then slowly it went to a blue screen. Blue screen flickered, but did nothing to finish booting. The Tiger disk I have isn't for the eMac specifically. So I took my eMac original disks out (with 10.3-something.) and ran the hardware test. It came up with a memory error: Erorr code 2MEM/104/4:DIMM1/J1 I read some obscur post somewhere that said it is possible that when upgrading OS the old RAM will be obsolete. I don't know which OS's it was talking about though. Could this be my problem? I only know enough to be dangerous about diagnostics - so your advice would be very appreciated. If it is the RAM, is it both chips? If I could limp along with only one for a while, that would be workable - no cash for replacement or repair. Hoping you can help me learn what I need to get the eMac running again. Try removing one stick of RAM if you can and see how it behaves, then replace that stick and remove the other stick and again see how it behaves. If it works with one and not the other you've diagnosed the problem, if it doesn't work with either stick of RAM then either both are bad or not up to spec, or you have a different problem. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to burn VIDEO_TS
On 2010/10/11 16:40, Drew Anderson so eloquently wrote: I use MPEG Stramclip. http://www.squared5.com/ (for the free download) I also purchased the QuickTime plug-in that expands MS's capabilities. I really don't remember anymore what features you can't do without the plug-in. I believe the QT plugin enables MPEG 1 or 2, I don't remember which. But the program will load multiple segment VOB files, as well as quite a few others. It will export quite a number of formats as well, including demuxing just the audio, just the video, video audio separately, etc. into a variety of formats. Adjustments include volume, brightness, contrast, saturation, screen size, interlace/non-interlace, aspect ratio, cropping more. Output movies can also be saved at a variety of quality levels. I have tried to use MPEG Streamclip several times but it won't open a video_ts folder nor will it allow me to select all the files in the video_ts folder. Running it on the vob files that it will let me select results in multiple output files. Can you tell me how you use it? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sort of Off Topic... SeaMonkey on G4 Gigabit
On 2010/10/16 10:50, James Therrault so eloquently wrote: This question is regarding a certain newsgroup, (I subscribe to Giganews), that I can no longer connect to. I know that the group is still alive as you can pick it up on google but that really sucks. I subscribe to twelve groups, (including this one), and have no problems with any of the others. BTW, Giganews tech support states that there is no problem on their end and I'm sure that they're right. Try reading the newsgroup in question with another app, MT-NewsWatcher X, Pineapple News, or the like. If you can read it with another app then it's likely a corrupt pref or an incorrect setting in SeaMonkey. If you still can't read it there's something more globally wrong at your end. Try creating a new user account and see if you can read it from there. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Forgotten how to change my digest mode
On 2010/10/17 00:42, Fabian Fang so eloquently wrote: I do not believe that it was the OP's intention to unsubscribe from the group. A while back the Group Owner informed all group members that, because the unsubscribe link did not always work reliably, he removed it, and asked members to make use of the following, which appears at the end of every group message: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list The problem I ran into in trying to use the more options link is that I was not subscribed via a gmail address, therefore I could not login and unsubscribe. Recreating the unsubscribe address was my only option, other than closing the GMX account and letting the messages bounce. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: [Manager Comment] Re: Forgotten how to change my digest mode
On 2010/10/17 10:53, Fabian Fang so eloquently wrote: On Oct 17, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/17 00:42, Fabian Fang so eloquently wrote: A while back the Group Owner informed all group members that, because the unsubscribe link did not always work reliably, he removed it, and asked members to make use of the following, which appears at the end of every group message: For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list The problem I ran into in trying to use the more options link is that I was not subscribed via a gmail address, therefore I could not login and unsubscribe. It has been more than one year since the Group Owner posted his message on Online Subscription Management for Google Groups. For the benefit of new subscribers, and those who may have forgotten, I am quoting his instructions from August 26, 2009, which do not require a Gmail account: Go to http://groups.google.com/ and select Sign in. Enter your subscribed email address and password. You may also want to check Stay signed in. Google Groups will display a list of al groups that this email address is subscribed to. Click on Manage my memberships - this is where you can change your nickname, your subscribed email address, and your subscription type (how you receive messages from the group). Once again, for individual subscription issues that require assistance, please send private messages to me, or another Group Manager. The problem was that I did not sign up through googlegroups, I signed up at LEM. When I tried to sign into googlegroups with my GMX address I was unsuccessful. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: HDD Disposal Data Security
On 2010/10/17 10:31, Baha Ata so eloquently wrote: lol... when u touch surface even without magnet it is already gone! :) Great, looks like I've got a new handwarmer! ;-) Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iTunes De-authorize issue on a G5
On 2010/10/17 15:26, DLC so eloquently wrote: Does anyone know how to de-authorize only one computer (out of the 5- station quota) on an iTunes account? My wife reached her limit with a new netbook a while ago - I bumped up her home office with a new (to her) G5, which needs authorizing. So far, the only options I can find are to tolerate the present state, or de-authorize all 5 stations in one fell swoop (which means all prior purchase records are lost-not good). The last I knew de-authorization was an all or nothing affair. What do you mean by lose your past purchase records? If you mean authorization for DRM protected files iTunes will ask you to enter name password when you play them. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD won't start after cloning
On 2010/10/17 17:07, yawg so eloquently wrote: I get the login screen even though I am admin and never see that screen normally. The same if I start up in Tiger or Panther. That's just a setting in System Preferences, the Security pane I believe though it might be in a different pane for older versions of OS X. When I enter my correct name and password I am still denied access. Boot from the install disk and go to Utilities, there you will be able to reset the password. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Just purchased used g5 mac
On 2010/10/18 21:57, R 2 so eloquently wrote: I just bought a used g 5 mac! Congratulations! It has Leopard os, lists as 7.3? (what's this mean) Nothing much, just a unique identifier Apple assigns. with 2 GB Ram and dual ppcs at 2.0 Ghz. Also,2 HDDs with 250 GB each. Is this a good machine-reliable? I think so, I (likely) have the same machine and I'm quite happy with it except for Flash performance on certain sites such as Hulu. Any known issues besides capacitors on motherboard? I think that was a G5 iMac issue, I've not heard of it on the Power Macs. The fans can get very loud doing certain maintenance routines or in the case of a kernel panic and with the volume of air they move it collects a lot of dust inside. I can't really think of anything else. Seems reasonably fast even by today's standards, but what improvements would be best. I would recommend more RAM, I've maxed mine out at 8GB but you don't have to do that. 4 GB should work well depending on what you use it for. Just remember to install the RAM in identical pairs, no mix match (they have to match each other, not necessarily the existing RAM). Also you may consider a video card upgrade depending on which card you have. But if the existing card works for your needs than don't bother. Has no OS disk-should I purchase Leopard or Tiger disks. Completely up to you. I prefer Tiger for reliability but there is a lot of software that won't run on 10.4, and Apple has stopped supporting it which means no more security updates. Leopard has it's quirks but it is feature rich and snark allegedly still supported by Apple./snark Above all, enjoy your new Mac! Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Just purchased used g5 mac
On 2010/10/20 06:10, Dana Collins so eloquently wrote: Generally I would agree, PCI-X is supposed to be backward compatible. I had several experiences with M-Audio My M-Audio Revolution 5.1 fits just fine in my Power Mac (see sig), do you perhaps have the Late 05 with PCI Express? I wish I could say that the driver worked fine too - it functions, but I have to frequently relaunch the source app or occasionally reinstall the driver. This happens regardless if it's v1.6 beta or final. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thanks to Everyone for g5 info!
On 2010/10/20 17:34, R 2 so eloquently wrote: is there also PCI or PCI E or X in this machine-g5 power mac 7,3? The Power Mac G5 (Early 2005) has different configurations: 2.0 GHz DP - Three 33 MHz 64 bit PCI 2.3 2.7 GHz DP - Two 100 MHz 64 bit PCI-X one 133 MHz 64 bit PCI-X All - 8x AGP Pro This according to Mactracker. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where is Flash 10.1
On 2010/10/21 09:30, Cliff Rediger so eloquently wrote: On Oct 21, 7:09 am, Len Gerstellgers...@gmail.com wrote: Do you mean you can't find the installer to run? Or are you looking for an actual Flash Player program? If the latter, there is no program, it is (I think) a plug in deep in the bowels of the system that allows your browser to run Flash apps. After you run the installer, go to: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html?promoid=GXVZC Thank you Len. I meant the former and the given link indicates I've successfully installed 10.1.85.3 What's really fun is when you migrate to a new drive, or rename the current drive, and finding your downloads buried in /Volumes, which is invisible by default. NetNewsWire doesn't seem to keep track of where the Downloads folder is as well as the browsers do. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where is Flash 10.1
On 2010/10/21 10:26, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Tina K. wrote: What's really fun is when you migrate to a new drive, or rename the current drive, and finding your downloads buried in /Volumes, which is invisible by default. /Volumes is not invisible. Open a new finder window. Click on the computer at the top of the list on the left. The window now shows the contents of /Volumes Oops, my mistake. I have invisible files enabled and I thought /Volumes was one of them. Moreover, migrating to a new drive, or renaming the current one does NOT move where your downloads folder is, unless you're doing something else weird to the system, because your Downloads folder is ALWAYS at/Users/short username/Downloads. That was true for my browsers, but not so for NetNewsWire. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where is Flash 10.1
On 2010/10/21 10:45, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Tina K. wrote: Moreover, migrating to a new drive, or renaming the current one does NOT move where your downloads folder is, unless you're doing something else weird to the system, because your Downloads folder is ALWAYS at/Users/short username/Downloads. That was true for my browsers, but not so for NetNewsWire. What version of NNN are you running? I've had no such issues. 3.2.7, but it might have something to do with the fact that the OS and my User folders are on different drives. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Where is Flash 10.1
On 2010/10/21 14:47, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/21 10:45, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Tina K. wrote: Moreover, migrating to a new drive, or renaming the current one does NOT move where your downloads folder is, unless you're doing something else weird to the system, because your Downloads folder is ALWAYS at/Users/short username/Downloads. That was true for my browsers, but not so for NetNewsWire. What version of NNN are you running? I've had no such issues. 3.2.7, but it might have something to do with the fact that the OS and my User folders are on different drives. Does the Mac know where your download folder is? snip Yes it does. Once I manually reset the Download folder in NNW all was fine, it was just in the interim that there was an issue. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IS the world about to change ?
On 2010/10/20 17:03, Eric Herbert so eloquently wrote: This sounds awful since I've been an Apple user since birth (Parents bought their first Apple 2 weeks before I was born!) but if Apple goes ahead with this kindergarten approach they show on Lion, I may consider running Windows. Don't do it, there's always linux! ;-) Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IS the world about to change ?
On 2010/10/20 10:50, john Carmonne so eloquently wrote: On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Fluxstringer wrote: Lion ? Will Lion be compatible with PPC G5? Don't we wish. On second thought, maybe not. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IS the world about to change ?
On 2010/10/20 12:55, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: I went to the Apple site to watch the streaming video of the presentation and was rudely greeted with this: Streaming video requires Safari 4 or 5 on Mac OS X Snow Leopard or Safari on iOS 3 or later. I'm on a PPC G5 with 10.5.8 and current Safari v. 5.0.2 (5533.18.5) and I CAN'T see the streaming video because it REQUIRES Snow Leopard 10.6!!! Sometimes Apple is so insane. Strangely enough I'm now watching the presentation on my G5 PM in OmniWeb no less. Perhaps someone screwed up the system requirements? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Max HDD size for G3 Clamshell
On 2010/10/24 04:05, Scotty so eloquently wrote: Does anyone know what the max internal HDD size is for a G3 Clamshell 366 mhz/FW400? I put a 120 GB drive in a Tangerine iBook and it worked fine without partitioning it. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple inside?
On 2010/10/24 00:35, Brian Christmas so eloquently wrote: The end of this race is a long way away yet. The finish line is constantly being moved, there is no end. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G3 DEAD
On 2010/10/25 00:45, MichaelP so eloquently wrote: Ive been using a Imac ruby very efficiently as a backup firewire connected to a G4 via statrtup command T Please do not hijack a thread by changing the subject line in a reply to an existing topic, instead create a new message with a new subject. That keeps the messages sorted by topic for those of us that keep our topics threaded. Thank you. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple inside?
On 2010/10/25 14:48, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote: Sorry in advance if this is a bring-down for some folks. It's just time that our world, Apple fans included, do a little slw-dn, back-up re-evaluate our values. Not at all. I'm very happy with my PPC Macs (except for Flash of course) and there isn't a day that goes by that I'm not tempted to upgrade from Leopard to Tiger. By the time I see an Intel Mac, or Hackintosh, the Mac OS will probably be up to 10.9… iCougar? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple inside?
On 2010/10/26 10:19, Bill Christensen so eloquently wrote: Just as long as we don't have to deal with Schroedinger's Cat... Every time you try to use it, it's either dead or not dead. Wouldn't it be simultaneously dead and alive? And if so, what would you feed it??? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple inside?
On 2010/10/26 12:07, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: On Oct 26, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/26 10:19, Bill Christensen so eloquently wrote: Just as long as we don't have to deal with Schroedinger's Cat... Every time you try to use it, it's either dead or not dead. Wouldn't it be simultaneously dead and alive? And if so, what would you feed it??? Cat chow and brans. That gave me a good laugh, thank you Bruce. And just in time for Halloween too. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?
On 2010/10/26 13:14, Dan so eloquently wrote: Why do it that way? Well, it reduces the number of writes to the flash memory by quite a bit. This gives the brick a longer life. ... Remember, the goal is to make this thing work at least one day beyond the warranty period. (Seagate is doing a 5 yr warranty on them, btw). After reducing the warranties on the Barracuda line from five years to three I'm very surprised that they would offer a five year warranty on any kind of SSD. Regardless of the warranty, it will probably be a long time before I purchase any sort of aftermarket SSD. I love my thumb drives, but I consider them more or less disposable. I expect much more out of a long term data storage/retrieval system. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flash only? WAS:Re: IS the world about to change ?
On 2010/10/25 11:12, John Martz so eloquently wrote: At the moment the only one I know of is Seagate's Momentus XT which I understand to be a 7200 RPM 2.5 drive with the traditional 32MB RAM cache but also a 4GB SSD. The pertinent difference here is probably not so much the 4GB of SSD but whatever dynamic caching algorithms Seagate has come up with. (I'm just guessing of course). Today Macworld posted a review of the Momentus XT here: http://www.macworld.com/article/154959/2010/10/momentusxthybrid.html or here if the above link wraps: http://tinyurl.com/296ml36 Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2, 1.25 GHz G4, 2 GB RAM, GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64 MB DDR 10.10 Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
On 2010/10/30 18:43, Cliff Rediger so eloquently wrote: not knowing too much about electricity 800 watts seems like a lot for our use. How much juice does a mac mini and external HD pull? My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use significantly less, and external HDDs use very little. 800 watts is more than enough for those two devices. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: back up generator question
On 2010/10/30 20:26, Clark Martin so eloquently wrote: On Oct 30, 2010, at 5:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: My Power Mac draws about 500 watts, a Mac Mini is going to use significantly less, and external HDDs use very little. 800 watts is more than enough for those two devices. It's unlikely your PM draws 500 W. It's power supply is rated for around that much but actual use is rarely even close to that. I haven't tested any PM G4 but the PM G3 BW I tested drew 67 W. It would be hard to draw 500W, even with the monitor running off the PM's power supply. According to Mactracker the maximum wattage for my PM is 604 watts. Given that it runs both CPUs at 100% at all times the power consumption has to be high considering the amount of heat it puts out. As I mentioned previously I have yet to close the window in that room despite overnight freezing temperatures. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On 2010/10/31 12:03, Dan so eloquently wrote: Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house while I sleep I can do just fine without it. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Awesome mod...
On 2010/11/01 11:45, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: http://hackaday.com/2010/10/30/building-the-banana-jr-6000/ That is awesome! I love to see old Mac hardware brought back to life. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On 2010/11/01 02:51, Ted Treen so eloquently wrote: Tina, you must be related to my wife... If she is astonishingly brilliant and stunningly gorgeous than we just might be related. ;-) Seriously though, great minds think alike! Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?
On 2010/11/01 10:11, t...@io.com so eloquently wrote: The trick, then, is to find the proper chipset. This applies to firewire enclosures as well, probably a lot of other things too. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Awesome mod...
On 2010/11/01 23:43, Jeff Bequette so eloquently wrote: Now if we could just squeeze a macbook into a clamshell... That would be too cool for school! Imagine the reaction you would get when you are working on a Tangerene MacBook. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.
On 2010/11/02 11:55, Ted Treen so eloquently wrote: The jumper on a SATA drive restricts it to 1.5Gbs (SATA 1) speed. It won't have any other effect. What would be the purpose of even doing this? I have 3GBs drives in my P M and it only supports 1.5GBs, so the end result is they do not exceed 1.5GBs. How is using a jumper to limit speed any better than letting the system dictate speed? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anti-virus for Mac
On 2010/11/02 09:48, Dan so eloquently wrote: Clam and ClamXav were just recently updated... (get the version 2 beta - it's stable, not java, works well) http://www.clamxav.com/ And now Sophos is offering a free version of their anti-virus tool http://www.sophos.com/pressoffice/news/articles/2010/11/free-mac-anti-virus.html - Dan. Downloaded both, ran Sophos first and it found two threats in some games for my phone, one Java and one .exe. Don't know what (if anything) the Java file would have done had I tried to run them on my Mac, but they're gone now. After 10 years of using OS X the score is: Windows exploits - Two Java exploits - One OS X exploits - Zero Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thermal Compound Question
On 2010/11/02 23:21, Jonas Ulrich so eloquently wrote: Hi all, quick question here, I'm looking to buy some thermal compound, and am wondering if all is the same? Or if there is a better brand I should buy. I'm just looking on ebay, and the stuff is cheap. Just wondering, is there varying qualities? Or is it all the same stuff. They all do the same thing. Arctic Silver has a good reputation but I cannot tell you if it is as good as it's rep or not. When I buy thermal paste I avoid the very cheapest ones and look for a name that I recognize. I have used Arctic Silver and Antec Formula 5 and both have worked fine (I can't give a thermal comparison because the only temp sensor on my iMac is for the HDD). Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.
On 2010/11/03 09:17, t...@io.com so eloquently wrote: I tend to stick with Seagate these days. Their five year warranty won't save my data, but it means they have more motivation to put effort into quality control than a company offering a three year warranty. The last time I looked, Seagate's five year warranty was history and they were only offering three year warranties. This was on consumer level drives, perhaps their enterprise drives are different. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thermal Compound Question
On 2010/11/03 12:39, John Carmonne so eloquently wrote: I have noticed that Apple used a thick paste on the G4 PowerBooks, I assume this is because the possible flexing and ambient temperature changes of the components could break the thermal contact That might not be the case, I do remember some Apple model being manufactured with too much thermal paste by mistake, but I don't remember which model it was. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Thermal Compound Question
On 2010/11/04 10:59, Albert Carter so eloquently wrote: Remove the heat sink remove what you can with a lint free paper towel and then clean the rest off using a 85% or better isopropyl alcohol. Seconded. Use isopropyl alcohol, not rubbing alcohol. It's still dirt cheap. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Shutdown issues
On 2010/11/07 19:49, DLC so eloquently wrote: I have two G5 towers in our lab (1.8GHz DP-late 2004 models) running 10.5.8. They have both suddenly acquired the habit of not wanting to shut down. When instructed, the Desktop dismounts, the Dock folds down and then they just sit there. A force shutdown is what needs to be done at that moment. My PM developed a similar problem when I up, er, sidegraded from Tiger to Leopard. It seemed to get better when I uninstalled USB Overdrive but it still happens from time to time and I have no idea why. But at least you're not the only one. :-) Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anti-virus for Mac
On 2010/11/08 17:08, Bill Connelly so eloquently wrote: Aren't all files with .exe reported as suspect virus files? Not all of them, just the malicious ones. Which might be construed as most of them. ;-) Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G3 AIO 'snapping/popping'
On 2010/11/09 10:11, Jim Scott so eloquently wrote: It is possible to replace the flyback transformer. I'm not familiar with a Power Mac AIO, is it similar to a G3 iMac? If so, isn't there a potentially large jolt of current waiting to shock someone if they don't discharge it first? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G3 AIO 'snapping/popping'
On 2010/11/09 10:50, Jim Scott so eloquently wrote: It's the Power Macintosh G3 All-In-One, and it is similar to the first-generation G3 iMac, except it has a bland beige case with a perforated white top that looks like a dental molar, hence the nickname G3 Molar. It also has a case of elephantiasis, compared to the 35-pound G3 iMac with similar specs. Go here to learn more (check out the 266 MHz version too):http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g3/stats/powermac_g3_233_aio.html. Thank you for the link, I see that it was an Education only model which is probably why I am not familiar with it. Yes, as with any cathode ray tube powered by a flyback transformer, safe CRT discharge practices should be observed. My point is that it is possible to replace just the FBT. I would assume that any prudent person who's a member of this list would be aware of the dangers of imprudently playing around with high-voltage devices. I agree, but better safe then sorry. Especially since LCDs have almost completely replaced CRTs there may be some that have forgotten about the risk, or have never opened a CRT before. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: initializing Hard drive
On 2010/11/09 13:32, MichaelP so eloquently wrote: I've been learning my way around adding a second harddrive to a G4 sawtooth, -- in the process of using Disk Utility and carbon clone copy sodtware I seem to have turned a working HD into one with problems. The first HD is working reliably as a start up with OS 10.3.9 qnd OD 9.2.2 imstalled, but ccc cloning onto the second HD as target leaves me with a sparseimage file. How do I expand that sparseimage file ? and get the expanded material available from the target file? Do I need to initilize the second drive file ? If so how ? Am I asking the right questions ? Is this a hijacked thread, or is my mail client not sorting threads correctly? What should I look for in the full headers to determine if a message belongs in a thread or not? I ask this question because I honestly do not know, I've tried to find a reference number in the full headers but haven't found anything that seems to link a thread together. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anti-virus for Mac
Today on the Price Is Wright they had a MacPro in the showcase showdown, it came equipped with a 1TB hard drive… … and anti-virus software. I almost choked on my soda. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: hijacking
On 2010/11/10 10:00, Doug McNutt so eloquently wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email#Header_fields http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html Section 3.6.4 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4685.txt Note the In-Reply-To: header that contains the Message-ID: information from the message being replied to. A recursive train of those headers gives mail software, especially lists, a way to make a collected display of threaded topics. Done that way there is no confusion when someone corrects a spelling error in a subject line or adds something like Re:, [G3-G5] or Antwort to a subject. So messages in a thread are linked together individually rather than a common identification in the headers of all messages in the thread? Thank you for the information and the links. This will make it possible for me to determine if it is a thread hijack or my email client that is causing some messages to appear not threaded correctly. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Trying to bring a partition back to life
On 2010/11/10 08:08, Joshua Juran so eloquently wrote: How much is your data worth? If it's worth nothing, just cut your losses. If it's worth the cost of DiskWarrior, get it. DiskWarrior is an excellent repair utility, but recovery is safer than repair An often over-looked ability of DiskWarrior is that even if you are unable to write a new directory as part of the repair process, you may be able to use the new directory that has been created, but not written, to perform a more complete (more accurate?) recovery of the data on the partition in question. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Anti-virus for Mac
On 2010/11/10 23:03, Richard Gerome so eloquently wrote: You need a virus software program if you run Windows on it... Since it is a brand new Apple product I think it's safe to say the included A-V is for OS X. Which does you no good when you are running Windoze. And it's probably Norton to boot. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ADC to DVI Adaptor
On 2010/11/12 09:04, Ted Treen so eloquently wrote: it does have 2 x DVD connectors (one is dual-link) How can you tell that one is dual-link and the other is not? I have a 6800 Ultra that is dual-link but I don't know if it's just on one port or both. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ADC to DVI Adaptor
On 2010/11/12 09:42, Charles Lenington so eloquently wrote: On 11/12/10 10:26 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/11/12 09:04, Ted Treen so eloquently wrote: it does have 2 x DVD connectors (one is dual-link) How can you tell that one is dual-link and the other is not? I have a 6800 Ultra that is dual-link but I don't know if it's just on one port or both. Tina Try this link http://www.pacificcable.com/DVI_Tutorial.htm Thank you for the link Charles, I had no idea you could tell just by looking at the connector. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which used Mac to buy?
On 2010/11/13 12:33, Tom so eloquently wrote: If I stick with a G5, I'd like to get a faster one than my 2.0 GHz DP, just to reduce all those long rendering times in Final Cut a little. I don't think you are going to get a whole lot of improvement in rendering times with even a G5 DC 2.3, it sounds like maybe an Intel quad might be better suited to your needs. My PM (below) can take days for some tasks such as Handbrake, admittedly I use some pretty demanding settings. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Shutdown issues
On 2010/11/07 23:35, Kris Tilford so eloquently wrote: I'd try doing a Safe Boot to reset the System cache files, and see if that helps? I ran into this issue again today and the Safe Boot seemed to resolve it, though I don't expect it to be a permanent fix. Thank you for the suggestion Kris. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 PM temps
On 2010/11/13 11:48, John Carmonne so eloquently wrote: Now that all's well on my PM G5 Dual 2.7 with new heat sink I want to know what to think about temp ranges on the CPU's. The limit says 181.4F they are running at 141.F to 162.F CPU A is currently running at 52° C, and CPU B is at 62° C with a 100% load each and an ambient temperature of 16° C. I hope this is somewhat useful to you even though our PMs are not the same. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Which used Mac to buy?
On 2010/11/15 09:04, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: the only Intel systems that ARE NOT supported for 64-bits are the original CoreDuo Intel iMacs. Not to be nit-picky but wouldn't the CoreSolo and CoreDuo Mac Minis fall into the same category? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: WinZip
On 2010/11/15 15:43, M Christol so eloquently wrote: Is there any reason to get WinZip for Mac? http://www.winzip.com/mac/en/index.htm Not when there are better free alternatives. If you only need to decompress files The Unarchiver is the Swiss army knife of Mac unarchivers http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/22774/the-unarchiver If you need to compress files beyond the built in .zip functionality, you might try CleanArchiver http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/17207/cleanarchiver Or keka http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/32512/keka Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Bug Reporting
On 2010/11/16 09:12, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: I'd report this as a bug to Apple I've tried to report bugs in security updates but I could never find a PoC. How do you report a bug to Apple? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Time Zone setting ???
On 2010/11/16 07:22, Charles Davis so eloquently wrote: Yeah!! Wracking the brain to remember the keystrokes --- it's been a while since I needed to try that. [Apple-Option-P- R hold for three or more chimes!!] OR [Ctrl-Option-P-R hold fore multiple chimed] One of those will do the trick, and I ca remember it for a few months!! Just do what I do and keep a list of all bootup keyboard shortcuts in a document on the Mac in question so that you can't access without them without booting up. Works like a charm to frustrate you every time! Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bug Reporting
On 2010/11/16 15:13, Dan so eloquently wrote: And keep around full documentation to the bug - text files, screen shots, etc. Be prepared to hear little to nothing from Apple for days, weeks, or even months. Then, when you do get a reply, realize it's a horrible automated system, where the actual developer response is filtered thru a front-end human with an IQ of 5. It will ask you to repeat information over and over - just to see if it can make you go away. IMO, the worst bug reporting system I've ever used. G'luck. Sounds like I might have better luck just emailing Steve, so I guess I shouldn't hold my breath. Why am I not surprised? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
On 2010/11/17 15:06, Paul Stamsen so eloquently wrote: I had no problem in the past using those same discs and no, I don't recall which way you spell disxs. My impression is that optical media is disc, as in Compact Disc, and that hard drives use disks. But then I could be wrong too. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Getting there
On 2010/11/17 18:05, Andrew Liu Anderson so eloquently wrote: Both are variants of the same word, like Grey and Gray. I hate that. I always feel like I am mis-spelling it regardless of which spelling I use. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB stick read only
On 2010/11/20 06:06, Geke so eloquently wrote: It’s true, the stick is not the newest. But shouldn’t it last for quite some years if I use it only a couple of times a week? I guess that depends on your definition of quite some years and exactly how much data you are writing those couple times a week. If it is an early generation flash drive it may not be as robust as today's models. Or it could be the bad apple in the bunch. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How should a family of five share one computer?
On 2010/11/22 20:35, Charles Lenington so eloquently wrote: you forgot an important step. They need to lock up the OS X disk, away from kids. And set a firmware password. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How should a family of five share one computer?
On 2010/11/21 10:37, Ashgrove so eloquently wrote: The simplest, less convolute way to do this would be to set a single user account for all Simple initially but in the long run it could become far more trouble as one user sets something (such as a home page, iTunes setting, etc…) and another user tries to fix it but in the process changes other settings and it just snowballs from there. I think a little effort now will save a lot of effort later. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OpenOffice vs Oracle
On 2010/11/23 08:32, Dan so eloquently wrote: hum. Things are getting messy. Corporate America has peed in the pool yet again. Feels like Oracle wanted to play rock-paper-scissors, but has come up lizard. Couldn't have said it better myself. Not sure that I could say it at all without laughing. Thankfully iWork suits my needs just fine, it's not free but then again it's not Office. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD, Webcam, Pix, and Images: why are they soooo different
On 2010/11/16 09:18, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: DVD's are encoded via MPEG2, which is an asymmetric codec: it's significantly less computationally intensive to decode versus encode. (this is how it was developed to be, to allow cheap DVD players. Also why it takes iDVD all night to encode a hour's video to DVD on a G4 with a 1Gig CPU and a gig of ram.) Was Blue Ray designed asymmetrically as well? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD, Webcam, Pix, and Images: why are they soooo different
On 2010/11/24 07:55, Dan so eloquently wrote: This has NOTHING to do with the media format. CD, DVD, Blu-Ray... those are just media, plastic discs that basically emulate random-access r/o hard drives. It's the codec used to encode/decode the video and audio data ON the media that's asymmetric. Yes I understand that, I simply did not know what codec/s BluRay used. Blu-Ray discs use MPEG-2 or MEPG-4 (mostly h.264) or VC-1. Thank you. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How should a family of five share one computer?
On 2010/11/25 09:19, Michael Emery so eloquently wrote: On Thanksgiving Day, I would like to thank everybody who gave my query their consideration and time. I hope that you give your families your love and attention today as well. Thank you for your thoughtful words Michael. I hope that you and yours have a wonderful Thanksgiving and if you run into any issues with your generous gift to your niece I'm sure the list will be happy to help as best we can. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Putting 17 screen on a 15 g4 iMac?
On 2010/11/24 19:48, Jonas Ulrich so eloquently wrote: I have a working 800mhz 15 iMac g4, and a broken 17 g4 iMac. Would it be possible to put the 17 screen on the 15 iMac? Even if this is possible I would be concerned about the counterweight in the base. Is the 15 notably lighter than the 17? Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: iMac G4 800, OS X Panther vs Tiger
On 2010/11/25 21:25, Mullin9 so eloquently wrote: iMac G4 800, one that is made in 2002, it came with Mac OS 10.2.4 it have 256 MB RAM, I added 512 MB RAM for the Total of 768 MB RAM. Should I use OS X.3 Panther (32 bit), the one that i already have. or X.4.11 Tiger (64 bit)? IMHO Tiger is the smoothest, best optimized version of OS X. Snow Leopard may be as good or better but I've never used it and you can't use it either on your iMac. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube immediately shuts down with 10.5
On 2010/11/26 17:39, Andrew W. Hill so eloquently wrote: I recently installed 10.5 on my G4/450 Cube using the open firmware hack That sounds like a recipe for sllooo. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list