[Audyssey] Jim Kitchen no.
Hello, I did have Jim Kitchen's permission to give Thomas Ward his ph. no. I will have Thomas Ward send me a private e mail next time. Sorry Thomas Ward if I caused a problem. I did not know how to do it right. Thomas , send me a private e mail and tell me how to do it right. for next time. Dorothy Martin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Glass Bottles in Psycho Strike
You can hit people with them. -- Original Message -- From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Glass Bottles in Psycho Strike Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 21:09:06 -0400 Hello. What are the glass bottles from the bar used for? Thanks. Christina --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/554c10255df9b102405cest01vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Glass Bottles in Psycho Strike
Hello. What are the glass bottles from the bar used for? Thanks. Christina --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Glass Bottles in Psycho Strike
Oh, fun. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Conroy Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:22 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Glass Bottles in Psycho Strike You can hit people with them. -- Original Message -- From: Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] Glass Bottles in Psycho Strike Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 21:09:06 -0400 Hello. What are the glass bottles from the bar used for? Thanks. Christina --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/554c10255df9b102405cest01vuc --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Fw: New Game: Hollywood Visionary plus Tin Star on Steam Greenlight
New Game: Hollywood Visionary plus Tin Star on Steam Greenlight There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Choice of Games To: d...@xgam.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 5:59 PM Subject: New Game: Hollywood Visionary plus Tin Star on Steam Greenlight Download Hollywood Visionary today on Steam, iOS, or Android, and please vote for Tin Star on Steam Greenlight. Is this email not displaying correctly? View it in your browser. Today, Choice of Games is proud to make two announcements. First, Hollywood Visionary, the latest in our popular “Choice of Games” line of multiple-choice interactive-fiction games, is now available on Steam, iOS, Android, and Kindle Fire. Second, we’re announcing that we've posted Tin Star on Steam Greenlight, where the community votes for games to be released on Steam. We're asking all of our fans to go to that page and click Yes. It's completely free and it just takes a second. Hollywood Visionary: Make the movie of your dreams amid the glamor and romance of 1950s Hollywood! “Hollywood Visionary” is a 150,000-word interactive novel by Aaron A. Reed, where your choices control the story. It’s entirely text-based–without graphics or sound effects–and fueled by the vast, unstoppable power of your imagination. As head of your own movie studio, you call the shots: hire Hitchcock, seduce Garbo, build your studio into an Oscar-winning powerhouse or star in a B-movie train wreck. Control everything about your production, from genre to casting to building up buzz. Do you have what it takes to become a Hollywood visionary? a.. Conquer the movie biz as a writer, director, producer, actor, or editor b.. Banter with Hollywood royalty like Orson Welles and Greta Garbo c.. Choose from dozens of genres and modifiers to make your film unique d.. Five possible endings to discover e.. Find love or throw yourself into your art: extensive but optional romance plots f.. Win an Oscar, create a cult classic, or languish in film obscurity g.. Will you name names for the blacklist, or risk everything to uphold your artistic ideals? h.. 150,000 words of content i.. Flexible gender presentation: independently control your pronouns, appearance, titles, and romance options About the Author: Aaron A. Reed is an award-winning author of interactive narratives. His games have been featured at Slamdance, IndieCade, IndieCade East, the Independent Games Festival at GDC, and in exhibitions of “electronic literature” around the world. His textbook “Creating Interactive Fiction with Inform 7″ is the leading reference on the popular language for digital storytelling. His interactive novel “Blue Lacuna” was named one of the Top 10 Interactive Fictions of all time in a recent poll. Aaron lives in Santa Cruz, California. We hope you enjoy playing Hollywood Visionary. We encourage you to tell your friends about these games, and recommend our games on StumbleUpon, Facebook, Twitter, and other sites. Don’t forget: our initial download rate determines our ranking on the App Store. The more times you download in the first week, the better our games will rank. We need your support to continue delivering our games on Steam. Our goal is to release our entire catalog of interactive novels on Steam. Based on the extraordinary performance of Choice of Robots and The Hero of Kendrickstone, both which made it onto Steam’s front page this year, Valve has allowed us to ship a handful of additional games. We’ll need to continue to deliver outstanding results to prove that interactive fiction can be successful on Steam. Tin Star is an interactive western mystery novel by Allen Gies (author of Marine Raider, Apex Patrol, and Shadow Horror). It’s over 1.3 million words long, making it the biggest interactive novel ever made. A single playthrough from beginning to epilogue can run over 80,000 words. We’ve published a number of popular games on Steam under our “Choice of Games” label, but this is the first time we’re trying to publish a game from our Hosted Games label on Steam. Tin Star was the obvious first choice, because you rated it the best Hosted Game of 2014.
Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward
same here. he was the well one of the first guy that makes small games. I hope he is ok to. At 04:59 p.m. 7/05/2015, you wrote: I can't unfortunately call jim being in another country and not having his number, but I do hope he's alright. All the best, Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:34 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward Hello, I just talked to Jim Kitchen . Thomas Ward , please call Jim tonight . Heneeds to talk to you. Jim has some health problems . That is why he has not been on the computer much lately. If some of the group wants to call Jim , I think that would be nice. Let someone know that you care. Dorothy Martin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
I agree. Yet there are people banning this and that game because they think its the game. Even if its got warnings on it underagee people may still buy or if not be allowed to buy find the game or whatever at home the law doesn't protect from that. And to be honest I think we are being to correct with our laws. We can't just bann every drug, game etc because we suppose its bad. Yes the thing in question while banned is the easy way out so yeah I see why we as humans do it. Because of that reason. Its always never worked fully. At 03:17 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: People who commit suicide over a game, unfortunately weren't in the real world to begin with. And for those who are against Harry Potter books because they deal with magic, they know nothing about the books, and their minds are closed. What the Bible says is that we should never take part in magic or believing in it. This has nothing to do with reading fictional stories that deal in it. Besides, magic is merely the method of conveyance of what the books are really about. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Yeah I agree tom practicing it is evil but on the other thing playing is not really. In fact in earlier centuraries past magic was a coman practice of sorts or at least some stories say it was. Playing magic/ fighting games the old style is simply traveling back in time before the 20th century. ANd since most of us will never in reality experience parts of that time thats something us humans are interested in. Ofcause what was in that time etc was scued slightly from what was back in that time but now days unless you are a history nut it doesn't matter. Its a coman theme in any case. Dungeons were the basic part of interactive fiction anyway and for those that played those before its also a reminder of what we started with. I'd never be a cultest or even go out and stab people I guess unless I was really mad and even then I don't know if I would then go on to stab people all day long. At 03:30 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: Hi Dark, Well, I for one don't believe roll playing games like Dungeons and Dragons is evil in a religious sense, but I do know and understand where that system of beliefs comes from having been brought up in a Christian faith as a child. The basis of religious believers calling DD evil comes from a verse in Deuteronomy of not being partakers of witchcraft, magic, familiar spirits, etc. Basically, many Christians take that to mean that any participation in magic or the occult be it real or fantasy is forbidden and call fiction like Harry Potter or games like DD evil accordingly. Myself I strongly feel that view is taken out of context and there is a world of difference of actually practicing the occult and merely reading a story about it or playing a game. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
My uncle is like that. All magic is bad though I have a friend that plays at church dnd on the table top type and thats got magic in it. I have long given up arguing the toss. If my uncle is coming round the violent shooting and magic/ porn games are locked away and if open are quickly closed down before any damage is done. At 03:18 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: yep religious zealots say harry potter and such are evil simply because their beliefs are a bit misconstrued that's all. Just pay them no mind that's what I do. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 3:22 AM, dark wrote: @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
grin Even if I could I wouldn't its not that bad really. Those family that don't like those games don't come round much and I really shouldn't be playing games all day anyway. In fact after last year when my ears got full of wax I have had to reduce gaming a lot more than I wanted but no its ok. Most of the time during the week family are at work and even when they are not gaming for them is not an issue its only 1 set which are really religious and they only come round periodicly and when they do I actually talk to them and try not to be busy doing anything on the computer so it pans out. Pluss the price of living especially where I am is not cheap. Auckland is a big city and all with prices of a house to match. I couldn't afford a house even if I wanted to. At 04:12 a.m. 2/05/2015, you wrote: hey shawn could you get your own house or apartment then you could play what you want whenever you want no family to bother you. My 8 year old son can play what he wants when he wants after his homework is done, I just put steam into family mode, disabled chatting and stuff and he can choose any game that is rated up to and including games rated e10. and one or two games rated t for teen that are fine for him. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 3:53 AM, shaun everiss wrote: To be honest tom I am mindfull of what games I play near what family I have a religious part of the family, so I keep this game and my other adult games out of reach. When no one is home then those games are blasting out the speakers and I am killing people left right and centre. Fact is though I have sometimes had the situation where someone has come and have had to quit the program in question. I really wouldn't mind to keep the evil part of my life to myself when I am alone with myself. Right now I guess the main reason I got this stuff is to releave some stress with some house building its needed I know and it has meant a lot of my other online gaming has to stop while its going on. From time to time I need to get out of the noise and things for 10 minutes. So I just go and take out the stress on a game I have done this with shades of doom to. After I have done this I have felt a lot better or at least able to survive another few hours of mess. So I guess we have our own reasons. Ofcause there are games where you are a terrorist shooting people for no reason etc. And yeah some games have no story at all. This game could be an interesting thing but its not something I'd play for more than 10 minutes a day. At 03:08 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: Hi Ron, Who is to say people don't take issues with their kids playing games like grand Theft Auto? Truth is I am one of them. Even though my son might want games like that I don't buy them for him. I tend to buy age appropriate games, and those I feel do not compromise my moral inclinations. I always find out what the game is about before buying it, and also check what age it was designed for etc. While I know some parentsjust don't care I'm not one of them. On 4/29/15, Ron hopkins ard...@samobile.net wrote: Hello. This is Ron. So I'm reading through these mails. Well, I'd like to know, how come people don't take issues with 10 year old kids playing games like grand theft auto, a game that has very graphic violents from what I've been told, where you have sex with women and then kill them by running them over, among other things. I think we need more games like this for the blind, What happened to society putting limits on what there kids watch and play. I personally love the sounds. We all know what is depicted in this game is very wrong, but after its basically roll playing. How many muds and other text games do people play where your a rogue and steal? Thats wrong too. Just an observation. I hope to be buying this game soon. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make
Re: [Audyssey] FW: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows
well ms dos 7 is free now I don't even iff they would care really its just to old. once the windows version goes out of support cycle ms won't care that much especially if nothing is on it anymore. At 07:52 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: well there is the ms-dos virtual machine. its 25 years old not sure how legal it is. i doubt microsoft would care really if folks just used it for old games. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 3:01 PM, nicol wrote: HI all A member from another list asking for help. I will forward any responses to him. Many thanks for any help Bfn Nicol -Original Message- From: blindtech-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:blindtech-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: 28 April 2015 07:02 AM To: blindt...@freelists.org Subject: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows Hi Group, I was also a paid user of World Series Baseball Special Edition. I never heard of a Windows port of that program. I really wish there was one. I did like that game more than the Kitchen game. The Kitchen game does allow pitching and hitting variability, but other than that it is totally random. You can change the players and the tea names in Kitchen's game, but everything is random. I did change things in the WSB Special edition and I am not sure how, but changing the statistics in that game _does_ make a real difference. For example, just to be silly, I put together a great team of all star baseball players from all eras on one team and an imaginary team called 'The Buffalo Blinks' (as in Buffalo, New York) consisting of all my local blind friends--both men and women. I changed the batting and pitching stats for the all star team and gave all the 'Blinks' high averages and low ERA for the pitching. Needless to say, the 'Blinks' slaughtered the All Stars in 4 games and by large scores. Again, I am not sure just how at the DOS level, this fuzzy logic (which must have been primitive at that early time) worked, but it was quite good. I really miss it. I also miss the 'Any Night Football' which was a DOS game from (I think) PCS Games. That also seemed to work on the basis of statistics. For example, you could schedule a game between 2 teams and pick plays and defense that would reflect real life trends an tendencies and it _did_ make a difference. With Kitchen's football game, again, it is totally random. There is no control. If anyone knows where any of these games from the old days can be downloaded and used in Windows, I would greatly appreciate any information. On 4/27/2015 4:55 PM, Troy Burnham wrote: I agree, if world series baseball and Jim Kitchen's baseball could be combined somehow then we could have the best of both worlds. I've been told that you can change the player's names in Jim Kitchen's game, but I'm not sure where to go to find all of the info that was in the world series baseball game. Troy - Original Message - From: Baracco, Andrew W andrew.bara...@va.gov To: blindt...@freelists.org Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:41 PM Subject: [BlindTech] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows It is my understanding that a gentleman named Phil Vlassik, not sure about the spelling, did make a Windows version of that game in the mid to late 1990s. I did have the DOS version and loved it. I even created teams of my own. The Jim Kitchen baseball game is probably the closest thing to that now. The only thing that I didn't care for about WSBB was that you actually did very little, and the computer basically played the game. With the Jim Kitchen game, you actually get to pitch and hit, kind of like the old Parker Bros. talking baseball game. Andy -Original Message- From: blindtech-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:blindtech-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Walt Smith Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:36 PM To: blindt...@freelists.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [BlindTech] Re: World Series Baseball Game for Windows Rich - If it ever was so converted, I never heard about it and I had been a paid user of Harry's program right up to the time of his death and I remained in contact with his son for some time thereafter. -Original Message- From: blindtech-bou...@freelists.org [mailto:blindtech-bou...@freelists.org] On Behalf Of Rich De Steno Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:09 PM To: blindt...@freelists.org Subject: [BlindTech] World Series Baseball Game for Windows Many years ago, Harry Hollingsworth had a text-based World Series Baseball game for DOS, which was intended for blind users. He passed away many years ago, but I have heard that it was later converted for Windows use. Does anyone know more about this Windows version? -- Rich De Steno You are receiving this message, because you subscribed to the BlindTech discussion list. To send a message to the list, blindt...@freelists.org To view Blindtech archives: http://www.freelists.org/list/blindtech If you wish to unsubscribe, edit options,
Re: [Audyssey] mud sound
Well to be honest while I do find at times the music a bit distracting volume wize the ffact I need to rely less on my speech and more on the sounds is good. However I have never been a windows text gamer. The only reason I havn't touched alter is because for one thing I have gone so far and havn't tried to go further. I also have a bit of a hectic lifestyle. That and the fact realitysoftware related stuff is something I need to do daily pluss the fact I have just started another sound project and have a possible computer servicing project on the cards, I have more than enouggh on my fire to burn all night. However this flame is dampened by the upgrades on my bathrooms so while I may from time to time be able to play that nice online game as long as its not noisy or something extra work like sound voice and serious testing need to be juggled. The only reason I have started seriously to go back into full work is because the smashing and bashing has stopped for the time beeing. That doesn't mean it won't startt again any moment so. Playing alter requires me to be in a peacefull mood and I am vary muchly not. At 11:22 a.m. 6/05/2015, you wrote: Dark, You're not the only person to notice or be bothered by this trend either. As a regular player of Alter, I find the mush-z user's assumption that everyone is a. using mush-z or b. wishes to have the numerous sounds included in the game's sound pack disturbing. I began playing Alter on Telnet. I now use the monkey term scripts developed by Valiant8086, but I also worked with Aaron to strip out a lot of the sounds I did not like. The changeover to kxwt strings has eroded my nonsound position somewhat, but that's more a laziness issue on my side. The mush client is a real triumph for the contributors: while much of the work was done by one person, many have now contributed to its success on Alter with plug-ins, scripting workarounds, and the like. The emphasis on the sound environment is the blind player's equivalent of moving from mud to graphics based mmorpg. A lot of current gamers probably don't even read the incoming text. At least, I get that impression often while trying to help them trouble shoot issues. That said, I think it was probably a brilliant move to go this route and adopt the existing sound pack and use it as a flagship method of connecting to the mud. It's brought in a number of players, and introduced them to A.A. When I first started playing, a good day was 30 or 40 players online, many of whom were idle or multies offloading equipment. Now, we have upward of 80 or 90 players on at a time with another 15 or 20 idlers and mules. For a mud in this day and age, that is truly amazing. Is it mudding? Probably not in a traditional sense. Is it keeping the idea alive? Yes. Does that present problems of its own? yes. Can it be solved easily? No, not without dedicated people willing to devote time and effort to developing sound packs, and mud admins willing to give feedback and help by setting up cues in the code to alert the client when to play sounds. Do most muds have this kind of dedicated player base and admin staff in the numbers needed to support the project? Maybe, but probably not. My personal answer to your problem proposal is that I don't a. necessarily see it as a problem, though I do regret its impact on mud play b. I don't see an easy solution. A note in the introductory text won't change anything as most people do not read such, and there's no way to develop such an extensive pack for every mud that someone finds interesting or intriguing. The final issue is this one: Most people don't have the savvy and the knowledge to fiddle with a mud client beyond a very basic level. So providing them a tool such as mush-z gives them a platform from which to expand their play and horizons on Alter at least. Don't think I really extended the discussion, but there's my two cents:) Take care, Jeremy -- In the fight between you and the world--back the world! Frank Zapa --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike some observations
me also. As long as they are not to basic that is. At 04:13 a.m. 2/05/2015, you wrote: I like everything from fantasy to sports to shooter games and killing games. they're all lots of fun to play. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 3:58 AM, shaun everiss wrote: Tom it depends on the player in question. This game is not for a newby by any means. I have played games for a number of years and while the story is a bit lacking in some arieas its one you make your own story as you go. I have played gangster games online and have liked that well the idea of being a gang leader. For me this is a way to be one without leaving my chair to do it. I do agree that this is not for everyone. But then if you really didn't care for killing you would have stayd away from most shooters etc. At 03:24 p.m. 30/04/2015, you wrote: Hi Dark, Well, weather the violence in the game is harmless or not is up for debate. In my personal opinion it is harmless in the sense that nobody really gets hurt, it isn't really hurting anyone in real life, but I find the nature of the violence in the game emotionally disturbing. For example, when the game first loads you walk into a party and just start stabbing people at random to death until all 10 of the party goers are dead. We could argue that it is just a game, that we are just acting out the part of a psychopathic killer, but for me doing so is still unethical because I don't take killing people lightly. I'm one of those sorts of people who is in favor of abolishing the death penalty in the U.S. and am active in other humanitarian groups so just walking into a party, bar, or some other place and killing people in a game isn't my idea of fun or entertainment. It goes against my moral and ethical inclinations to do so, and I found the game disturbing to say the least. I suppose that is why when I have enemies in my own games they aren't particularly human. In MOTA, for instance, the enemies are skeletons,harpies, centaurs, and so forth. Those are monsters not people. Therefore I don't feel any ethical or moral objection to killing them. Same goes with mowing down hoards of zombies in Swamp. I don't consider zombies people so have no objection to slicing, dicing, or killing as many of them as I can. On 4/29/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Desiree, interesting comment on violence. I will say this is why I don't tend to enjoy crime based games such as torn city or I mobsters myself. Nottingham where I grew up and where my parents live has the highest gun crime rate in the Uk and one of the highest over all in the country, it really is one of these cities where you don't walk around in the city center after dark. That is why I don't live there anymore, but also why crime has never particularly interested me in a game sinse hay if I want to see da gangers hangin in da getto I hardly need to play a game :D. That being said all I've heard of Psycho strike's gameplay has been hugely interesting, and a bit of harmless violence provided it is harmless violence can be fun on occasion, so I'll reserve judgement until I've tried the thing. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi everyone! I understand that there aren't many first person adventure games. But what about scarrey land? I find in TPB somewhere and in that torrent the game shows as an audio game that time I don't have a torrent cliant so not able to download it But I don't find in audiogames.net Is this game exist? Also I don't have enough information about empires and dungeons by neels bower games. Thanks Ishan On 5/2/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: As far as I know there were a series of adventure games, some with i believe role playing element which as Kara said used a combination of still images and text. They've recieved particular priase for their stories I believe including published novelizations and books set in the same universe, or at least I recall an author I met telling me about such, though that was quite a while ago so I might've got the wrong end of the stick. Not accessible unfortunately, or at least I've never heard of such, though as I said I've only really heard the names and praise for the story, I don't know much else about the series. All the best, DArk. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Gmail englishride...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. What are the Mist games that Kara mentioned? Thanks, Ari On May 1, 2015, at 5:50 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Kara. That's an interesting point. I don't know much about the mist series but I have heard of other games with such a viewpoint, although I've not heard of any accessible game working precisely this way, sinse usually the point of such games was to give a turn based, mostly text game the feeling of being more real time and immediate to the sighted user than it actually was, ie, instead of entering a room and seeing one static picture of the room's contents or a text description, you see the table on one side and a chair on the other, and to pick up items from the table or examine the chair you need to turn right or left to face it, then turn a different direction to go through a door, this is why I believe accept for some deliverately retro games like silver sword on Ios, most of that style of game were old dos adventures. I was going to say that I don't see the point of this in accessible terms, however if I think about it I can actually see advantages, given that you reduce the amount of jockying for movement a pleyr needs to do, and could reduce the number of sound sources in the environment by limiting them to only what she/he was immediately facing or beside, eg, you go into a room and hear an object sound indicating the table to one side, and only when you turn towards it do you get the sounds and identities of what objects are on it and any spoken description. Funnily enough, although they are real time we have had a couple of audiogames with a first person perspective that do not involve 360 degree movement, namely packman talks and dynaman, where you can move forward, and turn right or left, but only at 90 degree angles just like in those old adventure games, though obviously in soemthing like packman talks your moving continuously not in discrete steps and such games are still arcade games despite the perspective. One thing however that occurs to me, is that even though in these games you are limited in the angles you can turn, you can in fact effectively still turn! 360 degrees, even if by making three right turns or left turns, just like the way in something like shades of doom or sarah if you hit ctrl right arrow three times you'd be facing the opposite direction, where as in a side scrolling game despite as I said previously you still hearing things from the character's perspective, depending upon which way you look at it you either are walking forward with no way to turn backwards, or walking to the character's left or right with no way to increase or decrease your y coordinate, (if we assume that as in real life a side scroller's movements up or down are on the Z axis). I hope this makes sense. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
I agree josh I have it to lift some stress especially now because of all the upgrades on my house my place is full of noise and I really want to do something or go nuts even though I know that once its done it will rock. At 05:43 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: oh yeah and I think I'm buying psycho strike next month for sure! its fun! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 11:48 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, Misconstrued is the least of it. In many cases the people who say Harry Potter or Dungeons and dragons are evil have never read the book or played the game to know firsthand what it is about and only form their opinion based on the word of mouth. They are frequently misinformed but have no problems telling you and everyone else how evil, Satanic, or ungodly this or that is when they don't have anything like firsthand knowledge of what they are talking about. Those that do tend to base their opinions on a specific verse in Deuteronomy that forbids them from practicing witchcraft, astrology, spiritualism, and a number of other occult subjects. In any case it is up to the person's own moral and ethical inclinations to play or not play such things. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yep religious zealots say harry potter and such are evil simply because their beliefs are a bit misconstrued that's all. Just pay them no mind that's what I do. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
True as far as I know thebible hasn't had many updates since I am not sure because I don't read it but not much has changed since a time ago. At 03:42 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/30/2015 11:30 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Dark, Well, I for one don't believe roll playing games like Dungeons and Dragons is evil in a religious sense, but I do know and understand where that system of beliefs comes from having been brought up in a Christian faith as a child. The basis of religious believers calling DD evil comes from a verse in Deuteronomy of not being partakers of witchcraft, magic, familiar spirits, etc. Basically, many Christians take that to mean that any participation in magic or the occult be it real or fantasy is forbidden and call fiction like Harry Potter or games like DD evil accordingly. Myself I strongly feel that view is taken out of context and there is a world of difference of actually practicing the occult and merely reading a story about it or playing a game. Cheers! On 4/30/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward
Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Jim?
Any way to check and see if its the loss of email bug striking again? -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 21:16 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim? Hi Christina, Good question. None of us has to my knowledge. Now that you mention it I am a bit concerned as to why Jim hasn't posted anything to the list this month. Cheers! On 5/6/15, Christina greensleev...@wind-haven.net wrote: Hi. Is Jim ok? I haven't heard from him this month. Christina --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi ishen. Empires and dungeons is not accessible. There was a campaign to try and make the sequel accessible, but it didn't work out, so thus far the only accessible game from nielsbauer are the smugglers series. I have no idea about a game called scary land, I've never heard of such a thing, though bare in mind quite often what the mainstream graphics using public call an audio game doesn't necessarily mean an audio game, for example I once saw dance dance revolution called an audio game because of the dance tracks despite the fact that the instructions on where to touch the controls with your feet are all on screen graphical ones. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. Hi everyone! I understand that there aren't many first person adventure games. But what about scarrey land? I find in TPB somewhere and in that torrent the game shows as an audio game that time I don't have a torrent cliant so not able to download it But I don't find in audiogames.net Is this game exist? Also I don't have enough information about empires and dungeons by neels bower games. Thanks Ishan On 5/2/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: As far as I know there were a series of adventure games, some with i believe role playing element which as Kara said used a combination of still images and text. They've recieved particular priase for their stories I believe including published novelizations and books set in the same universe, or at least I recall an author I met telling me about such, though that was quite a while ago so I might've got the wrong end of the stick. Not accessible unfortunately, or at least I've never heard of such, though as I said I've only really heard the names and praise for the story, I don't know much else about the series. All the best, DArk. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Gmail englishride...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 3:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games. What are the Mist games that Kara mentioned? Thanks, Ari On May 1, 2015, at 5:50 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Kara. That's an interesting point. I don't know much about the mist series but I have heard of other games with such a viewpoint, although I've not heard of any accessible game working precisely this way, sinse usually the point of such games was to give a turn based, mostly text game the feeling of being more real time and immediate to the sighted user than it actually was, ie, instead of entering a room and seeing one static picture of the room's contents or a text description, you see the table on one side and a chair on the other, and to pick up items from the table or examine the chair you need to turn right or left to face it, then turn a different direction to go through a door, this is why I believe accept for some deliverately retro games like silver sword on Ios, most of that style of game were old dos adventures. I was going to say that I don't see the point of this in accessible terms, however if I think about it I can actually see advantages, given that you reduce the amount of jockying for movement a pleyr needs to do, and could reduce the number of sound sources in the environment by limiting them to only what she/he was immediately facing or beside, eg, you go into a room and hear an object sound indicating the table to one side, and only when you turn towards it do you get the sounds and identities of what objects are on it and any spoken description. Funnily enough, although they are real time we have had a couple of audiogames with a first person perspective that do not involve 360 degree movement, namely packman talks and dynaman, where you can move forward, and turn right or left, but only at 90 degree angles just like in those old adventure games, though obviously in soemthing like packman talks your moving continuously not in discrete steps and such games are still arcade games despite the perspective. One thing however that occurs to me, is that even though in these games you are limited in the angles you can turn, you can in fact effectively still turn! 360 degrees, even if by making three right turns or left turns, just like the way in something like shades of doom or sarah if you hit ctrl right arrow three times you'd be facing the opposite direction, where as in a side scrolling game despite as I said previously you still hearing things from the character's perspective, depending upon which way you look at it you either are walking forward with no way to turn
Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward
I believe this is it (from his contact page): 440) 286-6920 calling to Chardon Ohio, U.s. -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 7:35 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward Hello Dorothy, Well, unfortunately I do not have Jim Kitchen's phone number or might consider doing that. I do appreciate the info about him and am sorry to hear about his health issues. I have not been in the best of health myself, and have been a little less vocal on this list of late as well. Cheers! On 5/6/15, Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net wrote: Hello, I just talked to Jim Kitchen . Thomas Ward , please call Jim tonight . Heneeds to talk to you. Jim has some health problems . That is why he has not been on the computer much lately. If some of the group wants to call Jim , I think that would be nice. Let someone know that you care. Dorothy Martin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward
Hi Phil, On the contrary I couldn't. In order to ask Siri anything I'd first have to own an iPhone and have Siri. So until I get an iPhone I doubt I'll be asking Siri anything. Cheers! On 5/7/15, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote: Hi Thomas, You could ask Siri, like I did. Ohio is eastern time which is 5 hours earlier than GMT, Greenwich meen time. So it is 10:34 PM Thursday for Jim and 3:34 AM Friday for Dark. Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Jim is located in Ohio which means he is on U.S. Eastern Standard Time. That is the same as New York UTC. If I remember correctly that is about six hours behind London. Cheers! On 5/7/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: For various reasons I've actually just got a phone deal that lets me ring a hole bunch of countries internationally for a very low rate, so I'd be tempted to phone Jim myself and ask how he's doing accept that I am not sure what timezone Jim is in relative to the Uk (and no knowing it is mountain or pacific or desert or whatever else the Americans call those things doesn't help too much without the actual relation to gmt), so have a nasty feeling I might wind up waking him up in the middle of the night which wouldn't make him a happy fellow :D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward
Hi Thomas, You could ask Siri, like I did. Ohio is eastern time which is 5 hours earlier than GMT, Greenwich meen time. So it is 10:34 PM Thursday for Jim and 3:34 AM Friday for Dark. Phil - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward Hi Dark, Jim is located in Ohio which means he is on U.S. Eastern Standard Time. That is the same as New York UTC. If I remember correctly that is about six hours behind London. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Hi Desiree, Well, I will agree that technology is powerful and must be used responsibly. That said, it is something of a two edged sword. On one hand it can be used to access all kinds of objectionable content that a parent may not want their child exposed to. On the other hand it can be a very good tool for learning, for staying in contact with friends, and for accessing perfectly age appropriate material. It all comes down to how a parent teaches their child to use the technology, and if they monitor the content their child is accessing. For example, I do have a son who is now 10. It certainly can be trying at times, but I think it is certainly manageable. There are all kinds of parental safeguards one can use to make the internet relatively safe, and if one wants to know where their child is going on the web just look at the browser history to see where they have been and what they are looking at. If by chance a child is accessing some truly objectionable content then that would be the time to have a chat about that content and can setup extra safeguards to make sure the child does not go back to those places. As to the point of getting around filters and blocks that depends on how good the filters and blocks are. Unfortunately,, far too many parents are technologically impaired, not skilled computer users, so many not install and setup the best filters and blocks for their children. Therefore if a child is reasonably skilled, perhaps more skilled than the parents, he/she can easily get around such safeguards. So I see this as an issue of proper training and education of how to safeguard a child from accessing the wrong kind of content and media on the internet. Cheers! On 5/1/15, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I couldn't agree more with you. This is one of the many reasons I've decided I don't want to be a parent. Technology, as it is today, is much too powerful to be placed in any child's hands. In the future, it will only get worse. As I said, even with filters and blocks and so on in place, it is extremely easy to get around them. Then you have a kid who's going to be exposed to a hell of a lot more than just this one audio game. I would say that's a lot more worrying than the content this game offers, no matter what your stance is on it. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Grail to the Thief
I went to the audiogames.net address Dark posted and got a bunch of error messages with no title, description or anything there. I am using FireFox. Don't know what is going on. Eleanor Robinson 7-128 Software That is very whacky Graham, sinse I just went to the gamelist and found the db page for grail to the thief, it's here: http://audiogames.net/db.php?action=viewid=Grail to the thief I wonder what's going on? Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] experience a problem with the combo boxonaudiogames.net Unfortunately that doesn't seem entirely true there Dark. I just tried looking up Grail both in the game list and by searching and it didn't work. I eventually had to search the forum for the topic announcing its release. I also couldn't access the DB page on the game, which was of course linked to in said topic. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 2:19 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] experience a problem with the combo box onaudiogames.net Hi nicol. Unfortunately due to an error that dropdown box isn't working. If you go to the games list however you will find links to all the pages, alternatively you could go to the search games link on the main page and display all games by foralltoplay, or all audio adventure games. The pages are still there, it's just that box which is broken, though hopefully Sander will fix it soon. HTh. Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: nicol ni...@vodamail.co.za To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 6:58 PM Subject: [Audyssey] experience a problem with the combo box on audiogames.net HI all I would like to read up on grail to the thief. I prefer the combo box on audiogames.net to read up on a game. So I choose grail to the thief in the combo box and I click submit. But I'm not taken to the page reviewing grail to the thief. I still get the home page after clicking submit. I've tried about 10 times. I have internet explorer 11 and firefox 34.0.5 I have tried both. Has anybody experienced this? If so, what address should I use to report the problem. Many thanks for any help Bfn Nicol --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] first person adventure games.
Hi Ishan, To be honest I have never heard of any audio game named Scary Land. So as I have never heard of it I can't answer any questions about it. All I can say is since there has been no discussion of such a game here on Audyssey or on the Audio Games Forum that would be the reason it is not on audiogames.net. It is pretty much an unknown for all intents and purposes. Cheers! On 5/2/15, ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone! I understand that there aren't many first person adventure games. But what about scarrey land? I find in TPB somewhere and in that torrent the game shows as an audio game that time I don't have a torrent cliant so not able to download it But I don't find in audiogames.net Is this game exist? Also I don't have enough information about empires and dungeons by neels bower games. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
usually I'd agree, however bare in mind Jim's number is on his website anyway, so really this is hardly new information for any potential evil scammers out there. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward i would have a business number on there of course but to put out yours or even someone elses number on a public list or forum? that is just utter madness. Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 16:07, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote: I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
What I sent was not meant to be inflamatory. What I sent was true. If my message had been read, the reply wouldn't have been sent. I may be blunt at times, but I say it as I see it. Straightforward and honestly. Is it true that we should not send anyone's phone number to a huge list of people? I think it is, and I think that common sense should tell that it is. If I state the problem very clearly and someone says that they don't understand what the problem is, I see nothing wrong with referring them right back to what they are replying to, in which the problem was clearly stated. I may have been rude, but that was not my intent. If you tell us that something is too hot for you to touch, and someone asks you why you aren't holding it in your hand, you might very naturally say, Like I said, it's too hot to handle. Weren't you listening? Same idea. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward Charles: I think part of the problem here may also be the way in which you're basically attacking everybody. You've got an extremely blunt and (I feel pretty justified in saying) relatively rude way of getting your points across. You started out by attacking Dorothy for something that, had you actually paused to think about it, really wasn't a big deal at all. You then continue to implicitly insult people who question you, regardless of what they're actually saying (If you don't see the problem, reread my messages. I think I've explained it pretty clearly). If you're going to throw out such inflammatory comments, its pretty much a given that people are going to reply to you, so don't go make it look like its everybody else's at fault for replying to the thread in their own defense. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 11:39 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward Because people keep replying to messages on the thread. If you don't see the problem, reread my messages. I think I've explained it pretty clearly. Giving someone's contact info out without their permission is just something you should not do. It's common sense. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward this number was on his sight so, so why is this topic still going on. On 5/7/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: You may not mind everyone having your phone number, but I sure don't want strangers to get mine, especially without my permission. If you've ever experienced identity theft, you'd know exactly what the problem is. I always ask someone for permission to give their contact info out, and I let them know who I am asking for permission to give it to. It is personal info that should never be given out without permission. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription
Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward
For various reasons I've actually just got a phone deal that lets me ring a hole bunch of countries internationally for a very low rate, so I'd be tempted to phone Jim myself and ask how he's doing accept that I am not sure what timezone Jim is in relative to the Uk (and no knowing it is mountain or pacific or desert or whatever else the Americans call those things doesn't help too much without the actual relation to gmt), so have a nasty feeling I might wind up waking him up in the middle of the night which wouldn't make him a happy fellow :D. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward yes I hope he is ok also I always enjoy playing his games. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 5/7/2015 4:19 AM, shaun everiss wrote: same here. he was the well one of the first guy that makes small games. I hope he is ok to. At 04:59 p.m. 7/05/2015, you wrote: I can't unfortunately call jim being in another country and not having his number, but I do hope he's alright. All the best, Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:34 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward Hello, I just talked to Jim Kitchen . Thomas Ward , please call Jim tonight . Heneeds to talk to you. Jim has some health problems . That is why he has not been on the computer much lately. If some of the group wants to call Jim , I think that would be nice. Let someone know that you care. Dorothy Martin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
me either hell my phone number is in my signature. Skype and everything else, there is blocking if I ever need to. On 5/7/15, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote: I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
yeah and by having them band people will want them more and find ways to get them. On 5/7/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: There are drugs that are most definitely harmful, and they should be banned, but that's on another topic, not game related. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I agree. Yet there are people banning this and that game because they think its the game. Even if its got warnings on it underagee people may still buy or if not be allowed to buy find the game or whatever at home the law doesn't protect from that. And to be honest I think we are being to correct with our laws. We can't just bann every drug, game etc because we suppose its bad. Yes the thing in question while banned is the easy way out so yeah I see why we as humans do it. Because of that reason. Its always never worked fully. At 03:17 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: People who commit suicide over a game, unfortunately weren't in the real world to begin with. And for those who are against Harry Potter books because they deal with magic, they know nothing about the books, and their minds are closed. What the Bible says is that we should never take part in magic or believing in it. This has nothing to do with reading fictional stories that deal in it. Besides, magic is merely the method of conveyance of what the books are really about. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web,
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
this number was on his sight so, so why is this topic still going on. On 5/7/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: You may not mind everyone having your phone number, but I sure don't want strangers to get mine, especially without my permission. If you've ever experienced identity theft, you'd know exactly what the problem is. I always ask someone for permission to give their contact info out, and I let them know who I am asking for permission to give it to. It is personal info that should never be given out without permission. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
Now that I think about it though Jim's number has been available both on his contact page and if I'm not mistaken in his email signatures as well for quite some time. So Dorothy wasn't putting out any information that wasn't already there for anyone to find it. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:25 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward You may not mind everyone having your phone number, but I sure don't want strangers to get mine, especially without my permission. If you've ever experienced identity theft, you'd know exactly what the problem is. I always ask someone for permission to give their contact info out, and I let them know who I am asking for permission to give it to. It is personal info that should never be given out without permission. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward
yes I hope he is ok also I always enjoy playing his games. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 5/7/2015 4:19 AM, shaun everiss wrote: same here. he was the well one of the first guy that makes small games. I hope he is ok to. At 04:59 p.m. 7/05/2015, you wrote: I can't unfortunately call jim being in another country and not having his number, but I do hope he's alright. All the best, Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:34 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward Hello, I just talked to Jim Kitchen . Thomas Ward , please call Jim tonight . Heneeds to talk to you. Jim has some health problems . That is why he has not been on the computer much lately. If some of the group wants to call Jim , I think that would be nice. Let someone know that you care. Dorothy Martin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
Hi all, Ordinarily I'd whole heartedly agree with you. However, in this case the information was already publicly available on Jim's site so sharing it on the list, while not advisable, wasn't as bad as it may seem at first. The information was already public so sharing it on the list isn't going to do any harm that hasn't already been done by making it available on his site in the first place. So let's not blow a gasket over this. :D Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, You are quite correct. I don't know if Jim's number is in his e-mail signature, but it is definitely available on his site and in the text manuals that comes with his games. So this wasn't the breech of privacy some may think it to be. All the same I'd have preferred the number to be sent privately rather than publicly. Cheers! On 5/7/15, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: Now that I think about it though Jim's number has been available both on his contact page and if I'm not mistaken in his email signatures as well for quite some time. So Dorothy wasn't putting out any information that wasn't already there for anyone to find it. We are the Knights who say...Ni! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
Because people keep replying to messages on the thread. If you don't see the problem, reread my messages. I think I've explained it pretty clearly. Giving someone's contact info out without their permission is just something you should not do. It's common sense. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward this number was on his sight so, so why is this topic still going on. On 5/7/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: You may not mind everyone having your phone number, but I sure don't want strangers to get mine, especially without my permission. If you've ever experienced identity theft, you'd know exactly what the problem is. I always ask someone for permission to give their contact info out, and I let them know who I am asking for permission to give it to. It is personal info that should never be given out without permission. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Lenron Brown Cell:
Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hi, For what it is worth that is why I am against banning stuff be it drugs, a game, movies, etc. It seems the minute someone steps in says this is wrong, takes it away from the public, bans it, there are always someone out there who will want to try it just because it is illegal or considered socially taboo. Banning something usually does not work because it fails to eliminate the desire for that product or behavior. It is only when we as a society find a way to help people overcome their desires for certain products that we can eliminate the problems that such products cause. Cheers! On 5/7/15, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote: yeah and by having them band people will want them more and find ways to get them. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
This is a phone number that's been readily available on his contact page and I'm pretty sure it's in his email sig too. He chose to put it in those places, so what's the outrage about exactly? Get well soon Jim! On 5/7/15, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote: me either hell my phone number is in my signature. Skype and everything else, there is blocking if I ever need to. On 5/7/15, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote: I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
You may not mind everyone having your phone number, but I sure don't want strangers to get mine, especially without my permission. If you've ever experienced identity theft, you'd know exactly what the problem is. I always ask someone for permission to give their contact info out, and I let them know who I am asking for permission to give it to. It is personal info that should never be given out without permission. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
Good point there. Not that I think I'd ever do that myself but I don't think she put out any info that hadn't already been readily available for years. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: Scott Chesworth Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 9:18 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward This is a phone number that's been readily available on his contact page and I'm pretty sure it's in his email sig too. He chose to put it in those places, so what's the outrage about exactly? Get well soon Jim! On 5/7/15, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote: me either hell my phone number is in my signature. Skype and everything else, there is blocking if I ever need to. On 5/7/15, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote: I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the
Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
let them find ways then and allow the law to deal with the surviver's. if people are stupid enough to want drugs that aren't even legal then let them pay the price for their stupidity and be done with it. Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 16:22, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote: yeah and by having them band people will want them more and find ways to get them. On 5/7/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: There are drugs that are most definitely harmful, and they should be banned, but that's on another topic, not game related. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I agree. Yet there are people banning this and that game because they think its the game. Even if its got warnings on it underagee people may still buy or if not be allowed to buy find the game or whatever at home the law doesn't protect from that. And to be honest I think we are being to correct with our laws. We can't just bann every drug, game etc because we suppose its bad. Yes the thing in question while banned is the easy way out so yeah I see why we as humans do it. Because of that reason. Its always never worked fully. At 03:17 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: People who commit suicide over a game, unfortunately weren't in the real world to begin with. And for those who are against Harry Potter books because they deal with magic, they know nothing about the books, and their minds are closed. What the Bible says is that we should never take part in magic or believing in it. This has nothing to do with reading fictional stories that deal in it. Besides, magic is merely the method of conveyance of what the books are really about. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and
Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
There are drugs that are most definitely harmful, and they should be banned, but that's on another topic, not game related. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I agree. Yet there are people banning this and that game because they think its the game. Even if its got warnings on it underagee people may still buy or if not be allowed to buy find the game or whatever at home the law doesn't protect from that. And to be honest I think we are being to correct with our laws. We can't just bann every drug, game etc because we suppose its bad. Yes the thing in question while banned is the easy way out so yeah I see why we as humans do it. Because of that reason. Its always never worked fully. At 03:17 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: People who commit suicide over a game, unfortunately weren't in the real world to begin with. And for those who are against Harry Potter books because they deal with magic, they know nothing about the books, and their minds are closed. What the Bible says is that we should never take part in magic or believing in it. This has nothing to do with reading fictional stories that deal in it. Besides, magic is merely the method of conveyance of what the books are really about. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at
[Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Sorry I even brought it us, as, like I said, it is not game related. Hint hint. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions yeah and by having them band people will want them more and find ways to get them. On 5/7/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: There are drugs that are most definitely harmful, and they should be banned, but that's on another topic, not game related. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] may sound harsh, but ... JMO - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I agree. Yet there are people banning this and that game because they think its the game. Even if its got warnings on it underagee people may still buy or if not be allowed to buy find the game or whatever at home the law doesn't protect from that. And to be honest I think we are being to correct with our laws. We can't just bann every drug, game etc because we suppose its bad. Yes the thing in question while banned is the easy way out so yeah I see why we as humans do it. Because of that reason. Its always never worked fully. At 03:17 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: People who commit suicide over a game, unfortunately weren't in the real world to begin with. And for those who are against Harry Potter books because they deal with magic, they know nothing about the books, and their minds are closed. What the Bible says is that we should never take part in magic or believing in it. This has nothing to do with reading fictional stories that deal in it. Besides, magic is merely the method of conveyance of what the books are really about. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
i would have a business number on there of course but to put out yours or even someone elses number on a public list or forum? that is just utter madness. Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 16:07, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote: I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
Whoa whoa. Let's not get into a flame war here. For one thing we don't know for sure that Dorothy didn't have Jim's permission. Besides as has been said before, Jim's number has been easily obtainable for eyars. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: john Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward Charles: I think part of the problem here may also be the way in which you're basically attacking everybody. You've got an extremely blunt and (I feel pretty justified in saying) relatively rude way of getting your points across. You started out by attacking Dorothy for something that, had you actually paused to think about it, really wasn't a big deal at all. You then continue to implicitly insult people who question you, regardless of what they're actually saying (If you don't see the problem, reread my messages. I think I've explained it pretty clearly). If you're going to throw out such inflammatory comments, its pretty much a given that people are going to reply to you, so don't go make it look like its everybody else's at fault for replying to the thread in their own defense. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 11:39 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward Because people keep replying to messages on the thread. If you don't see the problem, reread my messages. I think I've explained it pretty clearly. Giving someone's contact info out without their permission is just something you should not do. It's common sense. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward this number was on his sight so, so why is this topic still going on. On 5/7/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: You may not mind everyone having your phone number, but I sure don't want strangers to get mine, especially without my permission. If you've ever experienced identity theft, you'd know exactly what the problem is. I always ask someone for permission to give their contact info out, and I let them know who I am asking for permission to give it to. It is personal info that should never be given out without permission. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward
Charles: I think part of the problem here may also be the way in which you're basically attacking everybody. You've got an extremely blunt and (I feel pretty justified in saying) relatively rude way of getting your points across. You started out by attacking Dorothy for something that, had you actually paused to think about it, really wasn't a big deal at all. You then continue to implicitly insult people who question you, regardless of what they're actually saying (If you don't see the problem, reread my messages. I think I've explained it pretty clearly). If you're going to throw out such inflammatory comments, its pretty much a given that people are going to reply to you, so don't go make it look like its everybody else's at fault for replying to the thread in their own defense. -- From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 11:39 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward Because people keep replying to messages on the thread. If you don't see the problem, reread my messages. I think I've explained it pretty clearly. Giving someone's contact info out without their permission is just something you should not do. It's common sense. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward this number was on his sight so, so why is this topic still going on. On 5/7/15, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: You may not mind everyone having your phone number, but I sure don't want strangers to get mine, especially without my permission. If you've ever experienced identity theft, you'd know exactly what the problem is. I always ask someone for permission to give their contact info out, and I let them know who I am asking for permission to give it to. It is personal info that should never be given out without permission. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] i don't believe you did that! - Re: att: Thomas Ward I don't really see the problem. My phone number has been available on the internet for years. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, darren harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: oh my goodness this is seriously the biggest mistake anybody could make on the internet. why not give out credit card info just to complete this foolishness Sent from my iPad On 7 May 2015, at 15:54, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Never, never! ever! put someone's phone number on a list where hundreds of people can get it! While I understand your reason for doing so, it is very dangerous, and personal info should not be shared in such a manner. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 6:49 AM Subject: [Audyssey] att: Thomas Ward Thomas , Here is Jim's phone no. (440) 286-6920 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Att: Thomas Ward
Hello Dorothy, Well, unfortunately I do not have Jim Kitchen's phone number or might consider doing that. I do appreciate the info about him and am sorry to hear about his health issues. I have not been in the best of health myself, and have been a little less vocal on this list of late as well. Cheers! On 5/6/15, Dorothy Martin doroth...@samobile.net wrote: Hello, I just talked to Jim Kitchen . Thomas Ward , please call Jim tonight . Heneeds to talk to you. Jim has some health problems . That is why he has not been on the computer much lately. If some of the group wants to call Jim , I think that would be nice. Let someone know that you care. Dorothy Martin --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] valhalla
Hi I will try it. Thanks Ishan On 5/1/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: hi Ishen. try separating the k and the r. Most muds work like interactive fiction games, you need to separate the command and it. Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 1:13 PM Subject: [Audyssey] valhalla Hello friends! Do you have any information about valhalla? I am playing this mud and in that I am an assassin conjerrer the thing is that I am not able to pick up a large staff which is lying around. another issue which is I am facing is that I am not able to kill the stupid rabit which is laughing continuesly at me. well enough rambling the main question is that Is this accessible for us? When I use the kill command which is KR for kill rabit and the mud saying that it is not a valid command. Thanks Ishan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] the Bible, and games - Re: psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
well jim kitchen did have a trivia one but I haven't even touched that game in years. At 06:12 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: Speaking of The Bible and gaming, to get back on track, does anyone know of a Bible trivia game that will operate on a Windows XP machine or on an iPhone that is totally playable by the blind? I think it would be a fun and interesting game if it exists. Thanks. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions Hi Josh and all, Cough...While I would like to debate the bible etc with you I don't think the Audyssey List is the best place to do that.. So I will kindly ask that we veer away from that topic as not to start a flame war or run the risk of upsetting anyone's sensibilities by opening up that can of worms here. Cheers! On 4/30/15, Josh K joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: yes and keep in mind the bible was written 2000 some years ago, christians didn't even have the bible as we know it until the early 400s. 405 AD or something like that. so when you read it, you have to keep in mind its historical context, that it is translated from other languages, and what phrases and stuff meant back then versus what they mean today. follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Hi Desiry. Actually I should ask one of my friends about this. He has a daughter who is currently five. Thus far, he and his wife have been able to, well if not monitor what she gets hold of, at least be around to explain any possible issues, which goes as much for say Cinderella being a bit dim for sitting on her rear waiting for the prince to turn up, as much as it goes for violence or anything similar. They're both very open people so I don't believe they had to actively ban her from anything yet orget draconian, though sinse my friend is a software engineer I'd be interested to know what his thoughts on this matter are. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions
Hmmm well my religious friend plays dnd all the time. Via the board game I have played it in dos heck its why I played entombed. On the other side there are actual education al games that encourage to do what it says and thats perfectly ok. I am not really into magic like harry potter and such doesn't mean I didn't read the entire series once and enjoy it for what it was though I mostly read universe crossovers being a scifi game nut always liked one universe versing another for whatever reason. Obviously these games have an age limit you should be allowed to play them. That doesn't help if an older brother leaves his clearly adult books or games unprotected and within reach of his 5 year old sister. Those laws only apply if you are buying if you have the stuff its your own problem. Not to mention online places where you have to put your age you can easily fake it and the list goes on. I have friends that enjoy hacking people to death, they would never do it in real life though. At 02:38 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: There are a few games out there that have ben taken to life. Last year this one made national news. A 12 year old crawled out of the woods to the road stabbed over 15 times. When asked she stated her friends did it because they were playing a game and they had to do it. Now another popular game in college is Dd witch has ben band for causing deaths. its not funny when some people think what they see on TV or books become a force to kill and reality is fantasy and fantasy is reality. At 08:11 AM 4/30/2015, you wrote: I have a close friend who shares that view. This is ironic because she loves Harry Potter and Alter Aeon. Her reasoning is because apparently there have occasionally been instances where people have killed or committed suicide over the game. We are the Knights who say...Ni! -Original Message- From: dark Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 1:22 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike, some observations, and Suggestions @Jody, DD evil? I'm a tad confused, sinse the dungeons and dragons I know is a tabletop rp game, and how evil it is depends upon your gm, though usually most decent gms wouldn't really condone a game where you were playing out and out evil characters and would smack you with nasty in game penalties if you ever commited any senseless crimes or whatever, sinse it's their job to create the realistic world the game happens in. I have heard some religious zealots say DD is evil simply because it involves magic, wizards, dragons and such, the same way some religious zealots say Harry Potter is evil, but such opinions are based on a religious mindset and system of beliefs that (even though I was bought up in the Christian tradition myself), I find so utterly bizarre I have difficulty making sense of. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike and responsibility
well you would havew to have safety systems I mean in startrek they always do. Ofcause if they are turned off you could die in a vertual game. In one startrek epesode they got dammaged even though it was a vertual program somehow they could still get dammaged if the main control board was dammaged even if it was a vertual program that dammaged it. The only way was to basically shut down and reformat the entire device from the bridge. Luckily they managed to solve the issue but even so. At 03:10 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: I spent last night playing swamp in single player mode and it was lots of fun. I can't wait till we have holodecks then I could go in a room and play for real in a complete virtual reality! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/29/2015 11:43 PM, Desiree Oudinot wrote: I realize I'm coming down hard on pretty much all your points, Jeremy, but I have to respond to this message too. I don't think the party sequence is all that unusual. Well, unusual isn't the right word, but I can't think of a better one at the moment. What I mean is, how in the world is this any different than a person opening fire in a movie theater or a mall, or a school? All of these things have happened, and will probably happen again. Does that make them right? Of course not, but I really don't think I need to drive my point home any further. Maybe you, as the player, have some kind of dark motivation or mental illness. Should that be explained in the story? Well, that's debatable. Personally, I'm an imaginative individual, so I like to fill in the gaps myself in whichever way I choose. But I also think having a story wouldn't have been a bad idea. Also, judging by the background music, the party appears to take place in a club or something. How do we even know this celebration isn't a public venue of some sort? On 4/29/2015 9:38 PM, Jeremy Brown wrote: Dear Aaron, I agree that most games depict violence in far to cavalier a manner. I also give you cudos on both the warning labels, and the use of very gutwrenching and active clues that this is not socially acceptable behavior during game play. However, I do think that this sort of decision needs more justification than everyone else does it. If game developers do not take a stand on such issues, then we end up with a market glutted with games that peddle violence for the sake of unit sales. Now, that said, as I pointed out in both the original post that you are responding to, and in the second post, I'm not necessarily opposed to violence, but I think the opening sequence and motivation for the character are what I find dangerous as concepts for gaming. I hope to see these same game mechanics ideas and use of realism and graphic violence used in a more constructive way in future. I am merely stating an unease with this release, its method of delivery, and its content. You are free as a developer to give the public what it wants, and if this is what the public wants, they are free to buy it. I can buy or not buy, and as I said, vote with my dollars. No offense was meant, nor criticism of anything but the game's kick-off premise. I think the rest could maybe have been worked without this initial sequence and it would not have bothered me one bit. Take care, Jeremy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Hi, I couldn't agree more with you. This is one of the many reasons I've decided I don't want to be a parent. Technology, as it is today, is much too powerful to be placed in any child's hands. In the future, it will only get worse. As I said, even with filters and blocks and so on in place, it is extremely easy to get around them. Then you have a kid who's going to be exposed to a hell of a lot more than just this one audio game. I would say that's a lot more worrying than the content this game offers, no matter what your stance is on it. On 5/1/2015 11:02 AM, Paul Lemm wrote: Hi Jeremy I do have to say as I think someone else has pointed out, if a child is old enough to be allowed on a computer unsupervised to download and view what they choose then there are a lot more worrying things online than a violent audio game. Just on uTube alone there is I'm sure more graphic and inappropriate content which is just a click or 2 away from anyone accessing a pc. I think this is the responsibility of a parent to teach their children what they are allowed to view online, I think the fact that the game warns people is amble to warn anyone of what is to be expected and people can choose to either download or not and if people choose to ignore the warning that is their choice and if it's a child too young to be exposed to this kind of game I question whether they should be allowed to freely view the web unsupervised as mentioned previously there is a lot more not only inappropriate but dangerous content accessible online. also with grand theft auto that to can be brought online through ps online or the xbox store either as the game or as a free demo and although I haven't checked I'm pretty sure there will only be a warning there Regards Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Brown Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2015 11:50 AM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and paypal accounts In response to the points about physical CD's versus download and/or paypal accounts. I was not necessarily suggesting that a physical CD be involved, merely a code key that would have to be mailed separately. However, as I also said in the original post, I don't expect VGStorm to do either. It is extra cost that would have to be passed on to consumers, and for a small company like VGStorm that's an unacceptable cost. I fully understand both the reality of the new gaming environment, and the position of Aaron's company; there's a fine balance between how you deliver games, how much they cost, and what precautions you have to take to avoid cracking, in this case improper download by minors, etc. I offered two suggestions. Neither is a super practical one. However, that said, I do not think that as game developers we have to say everyone else markets graphically violent games, therefore as long as I have a warning, I've done my bit. With a physical game, such as Grand Theft Auto which several people have brought up, in most places, a kid can't just walk in and buy the game. They're usually behind a counter, in a locked case, etc. That's not to say that kids do not play them without parental supervision, but I, like Thomas, monitor what my kids do, and I like it when companies at least produce an illusion of controlling who their products go to. As to Paypal, honestly, it's been years since I set up a Paypal account, and my memory of it is hazy. However, I know a lot of kids have bank accounts. Just as with anything else, it could be finagled. However, I think you're missing my essential point here. Once someone buys the game, they've gone through some effort either in getting a credit card by hook or by crook, or by accomplishing the goal some other way. My issue, isn't so much with the purchase as with the fact that this game is extremely violent, starts off with a extremely anti-social incident as the motivation for the entire rest of the game, and not only can anyone who downloads it play that sequence, but they are forced to to play the rest of the game. I'm not worried about the 10 year old kid who plays this game after buying it because they dupe their parents. I'm pointing out that any 10 year old can download and play the game. I feel that any developer, myself included, needs to consider these sorts of things when developing a game. If the game is free to download in either a demo mode or a full version, and it contains graphic content, no matter yur definition of minor or adult, you have to realize that people are downloading it. A warning message probably exacerbates this more than it stops people. It would have for me when I was younger. A friend of mine and I cracked Leisure Suit Larry back in the eighties precisely because we weren't supposed to. If the first sequence were modified or removed, this game would still bother me for the violence, but it would have set off my warning
Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts
Hi Desiry. As I recall the previous objections were more in the matter of adverse reactions to Jim's adult games than actual debates, but I do believe it was partly for that reason why Jim changed his site, which of course even though as I said jim's adult games are absolutely out for me I was aware of sinse I had to update the audiogames.net database links for them. Beware the grue! Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 9:57 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts Hi Dark, Fair enough. I had actually forgotten that the adult games were on a separate part of Jim Kitchen's site. It wasn't always that way, and, since I don't personally have an interest in those types of games, I really didn't realize they had been moved. So I'll stand corrected on that point. I don't know, it just seems a bit odd to me that this is the first time I've ever seen a debate over whether an audio game should have been released or not due to its content. Perhaps there were others, but I wasn't paying attention, or wasn't on the email list or the forum to see them play out. On 5/1/2015 4:07 PM, dark wrote: @Desiry, in fairness to Jeremy his objection to the game is based on it's actual content and the motivation of it's characters, not just it's depictions of violence. Jim kitchin's games are all clearly marked as adult, indeed they're in a separate part of his site from his other games and on audiogames.net they're listed as Adult xxx with clear warnings in the description, and yet actually we have still had a couple of complaints (though I have a sneaking suspicion those were from people who downloaded the games without reading what they were before hand). As a side scroller, even as a side scroller with weapons and action,Psychostrike is rather more innocuous, sinse the area under scrutiny is the senselessness of the slaughterings and crimes involved, not intrinsically their depiction. I'm not going to get into the debate again about this, but in fairness I can see why perhaps a more prominant warning on site might be useful, perhaps one contained in some of the links, eg list the game as psycho strike game with extreme violence or have a confirmation message box with the warning text somewhere rather than listing the game next to other innocuous titles like paladin of the sky and adventure at C:. Once the warning is displayed however, what people do is their affair. Heck, I suffer genophobia and could not play one of jim Kitchin's adult games without extreme discomfort, but thanks to the warnings I have never had to, either deliberately or by accident, which is really all you can say. All the best, Dark. There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream. - Original Message - From: Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, May 01, 2015 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] physical cd's and PayPal accounts I'm trying to remember which game it is that I've played that makes you agree that you're over 18 each time you play it. That's going to bother me now. It's an audio game, I believe, and while I think that's overkill, maybe a similar thing could be put in place in this game as well. I also have to ask this, why didn't anyone ever complain about the content in some of Jim Kitchen's sexually explicit games? Those games are free, are very small downloads, and are actually very easy to hide, because they're buried in a mess of other games inside a rather disorganized directory structure. No offense intended by saying that, I'm just stating a fact. But I apologize for being blunt. Anyway, I would argue that children have probably downloaded these games, too, but I've never heard a peep about it. Same with Slender, the Lost Vision. This game, if memory serves, was released shortly after the incident which Dark referenced in a previous message in which a girl was nearly killed because her friends thought they were going to please Slenderman. Again, this game is free, relatively small, and easy to access. So why is Psycho Strike getting a bad rap when other questionable content has been released in the past? Maybe I just didn't hear about similar objections that were raised? On 5/1/2015 11:54 AM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Paul, You raise some valid points. If a child is old enough to be unsupervised on the internet then they are probably old enough to decide for themselves weather or not to download a certain game or
Re: [Audyssey] psycho strike and responsibility
ofcause usually you don't leave a program continously running but well that does happen from time to time. From trek books I read it was possible to hack the decks with a device installed to each deck so yeah. At 03:10 a.m. 1/05/2015, you wrote: I spent last night playing swamp in single player mode and it was lots of fun. I can't wait till we have holodecks then I could go in a room and play for real in a complete virtual reality! follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 On 4/29/2015 11:43 PM, Desiree Oudinot wrote: I realize I'm coming down hard on pretty much all your points, Jeremy, but I have to respond to this message too. I don't think the party sequence is all that unusual. Well, unusual isn't the right word, but I can't think of a better one at the moment. What I mean is, how in the world is this any different than a person opening fire in a movie theater or a mall, or a school? All of these things have happened, and will probably happen again. Does that make them right? Of course not, but I really don't think I need to drive my point home any further. Maybe you, as the player, have some kind of dark motivation or mental illness. Should that be explained in the story? Well, that's debatable. Personally, I'm an imaginative individual, so I like to fill in the gaps myself in whichever way I choose. But I also think having a story wouldn't have been a bad idea. Also, judging by the background music, the party appears to take place in a club or something. How do we even know this celebration isn't a public venue of some sort? On 4/29/2015 9:38 PM, Jeremy Brown wrote: Dear Aaron, I agree that most games depict violence in far to cavalier a manner. I also give you cudos on both the warning labels, and the use of very gutwrenching and active clues that this is not socially acceptable behavior during game play. However, I do think that this sort of decision needs more justification than everyone else does it. If game developers do not take a stand on such issues, then we end up with a market glutted with games that peddle violence for the sake of unit sales. Now, that said, as I pointed out in both the original post that you are responding to, and in the second post, I'm not necessarily opposed to violence, but I think the opening sequence and motivation for the character are what I find dangerous as concepts for gaming. I hope to see these same game mechanics ideas and use of realism and graphic violence used in a more constructive way in future. I am merely stating an unease with this release, its method of delivery, and its content. You are free as a developer to give the public what it wants, and if this is what the public wants, they are free to buy it. I can buy or not buy, and as I said, vote with my dollars. No offense was meant, nor criticism of anything but the game's kick-off premise. I think the rest could maybe have been worked without this initial sequence and it would not have bothered me one bit. Take care, Jeremy --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
