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Re: [Audyssey] Music Puzzle Released!!

2012-12-03 Thread Shard Workshop

We're glad you like it!

The reason is that maybe someone will need more space to arrange
sub-sections of the song. Anyway we believe that the additional space
doesn't get in the way, if you don't need it.


2012/12/4 Liam Erven liamer...@gmail.com

 It's a really fun game. Is there a particular reason why you made multiple
 rows seeing as the song just takes up a single row?  Seems like it would
 make more sense to have the game use a single left to right row.  It's
 still
 fun, and will be purchasing this weekend.


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 That is actually a nice suggestion!

 Added right now ;). You can download the game again, if you wish ;)
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Re: [Audyssey] help contacting shard workshop

2012-11-18 Thread Shard Workshop

Hello Alexis, I usually check this list frequently, but for some reason I
didn't notice/receive this your mail.
In the offline message of the forum there is written our mail address,and
on our website there is a contact us form at this address:
http://www.shardworkshop.com/company

Whatever you need feel free to write us!

2012/11/18 dark d...@xgam.org

Hi alex.

I left this because i was wondering if lorenzo would see it anyway on
list, but obviously he hasn't had time to check the list.

He has however posted fairly often on the audiogames.net forum, and if
you were registered on the forum you could send him an E-mail using the
forum's system, or send him a private message.

Hth.

Beware the grue!

dark.

- Original Message - From: Alex Wallis
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Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 4:33 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] help contacting shard workshop

Hi list,
I am wondering, does anyone have a contact e mail address for shard
workshop? or its owner lorenzo which I guess amounts to the same thing.
as I bought zero site recently, and would like to make contact with the
developer,
but the documentation says to use the forum which according to the
website is disabled, perhaps the documentation should be updated to
actually give proper contact information,
as the website doesn't provide e mail addresses either, and lorenzos
official website link on the homepage is broken as well.

I have a few questions and suggestions for the developer and a few
problems as well, as I keep getting lots of errors to do with sounds,
I have also had trouble with the engines turning off and not coming back
on.
I also find the games coordinate system very confusing and would like to
suggest adding in some kind of autopilot system to make navigation easier.
Thanks for any help,
Alex.

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Re: [Audyssey] Happy first birthday Shard Workshop! (announcementinside)

2012-11-12 Thread Shard Workshop

Hi guys, we understand money problems that's why we are trying to lower our
prices as much as possible. In addition you'll be doing a great job even if
you are just telling people about Shard Workshop and audiogaming in
general: we need more gamers!! :D

I'm glad you like our game Dark, we believe we've started to back up our
resounding words with a couple of facts ;)

Oh, and we forgot. What better occasion to put a like on our official
Facebook page? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Shard-Workshop/102064876576018

2012/11/12 dark d...@xgam.org

congrats, that's a major achievement, and I will say I've been impressed
games wise thus far.

All the best,

Dark.
- Original Message - From: Shard Workshop
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Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 1:39 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Happy first birthday Shard Workshop!
(announcementinside)

Hello everyone!

Today is exactly one year since the Shard Workshop Project was founded,
and
what a year. Today we would like to take our chance to do two things: the
first one is to say an official thank you to every single one out there,
all around the world, that supported us in some way, from talking with
friends about our games to buying them.

The second thing is an annoucement. As someone of you may remember, we
started this project in the hope that it would become our main job. After
one year, and a long and accurate deliberation, we decided that Shard
Workshop is definitely worth a try:

From now on, *Shard Workshop will be a full time audiogames and videogames
developing project*. This means that we will work every day, every hour,

full time on it.

We would like to begin this great journey with you guys, because, as you
surely know by now, this is not something we can do on our own. We are
putting everything into this project, we're actually investing our lifes,
but without your help we cannot succeed. Help us by talking about the
project, the audiogaming, buying our games if you like them, and generally
speaking supporting us. Right now there are too few audiogames players:
*we

promised we would revolutionize the audiogaming scene, and we will,
supplying the best audiogames ever, but it's up to you spreading them*.

In the following days we'll update you on what's happening here in Shard
Workshop.

Have a good gaming everyone!
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Re: [Audyssey] Happy first birthday Shard Workshop! (announcement inside)

2012-11-12 Thread Shard Workshop

Our official website!
http://www.shardworkshop.com


2012/11/12 equest eque...@comcast.net

 Good evening,
 Where does one get your games from?? I would like to try some.
 Thank you,
 Lisa

 -Original Message-
 From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Shard
 Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:39 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Happy first birthday Shard Workshop! (announcement
 inside)

 Hello everyone!

 Today is exactly one year since the Shard Workshop Project was founded, and
 what a year. Today we would like to take our chance to do two things: the
 first one is to say an official thank you to every single one out there,
 all around the world, that supported us in some way, from talking with
 friends about our games to buying them.

 The second thing is an annoucement. As someone of you may remember, we
 started this project in the hope that it would become our main job. After
 one year, and a long and accurate deliberation, we decided that Shard
 Workshop is definitely worth a try:

 From now on, *Shard Workshop will be a full time audiogames and videogames
 developing project*. This means that we will work every day, every hour,
 full time on it.

 We would like to begin this great journey with you guys, because, as you
 surely know by now, this is not something we can do on our own. We are
 putting everything into this project, we're actually investing our lifes,
 but without your help we cannot succeed. Help us by talking about the
 project, the audiogaming, buying our games if you like them, and generally
 speaking supporting us. Right now there are too few audiogames players: *we
 promised we would revolutionize the audiogaming scene, and we will,
 supplying the best audiogames ever, but it's up to you spreading them*.

 In the following days we'll update you on what's happening here in Shard
 Workshop.

 Have a good gaming everyone!
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Re: [Audyssey] Happy first birthday Shard Workshop! (announcementinside)

2012-11-12 Thread Shard Workshop

Thanks a lot Phil!!

2012/11/12 Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net

Hi Lorenzo,
Congratulations on the upcoming Music Puzzle game and Zero Sight Flight
Simulator.

You didn't give your web site address,
http://www.shardworkshop.com/**audiogameshttp://www.shardworkshop.com/audiogames

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:39 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Happy first birthday Shard Workshop!
(announcementinside)

Hello everyone!

From now on, *Shard Workshop will be a full time audiogames and videogames
developing project*. This means that we will work every day, every hour,

full time on it.

promised we would revolutionize the audiogaming scene, and we will,
supplying the best audiogames ever, but it's up to you spreading them*.

In the following days we'll update you on what's happening here in Shard
Workshop.

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Re: [Audyssey] Music Puzzle, a puzzle game from Shard Workshop

2012-11-06 Thread Shard Workshop

@ Yohandy!
Yes it works more or less like you discribed it! And I see you have quite a
nice musical taste ;)

@William
Yes there is a built in timer and a feature that stops the game after a
user chosen amount of minutes! Mp3 is what I meant by map, don't know how
that map came out :P.
Mp3s are obivously loadable!

2012/11/4 Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com

this sounds like a totally fresh and neat idea! I presume the program's
work like a file splitter of sorts? you load mp3 into it, it splits it up
into several chunks of certain lengths, then throws all the pieces into a
puzzle? I'm already itching to try this thing. imagine loading Rush's 2112
into it? you'll be playing for hours! hahahahahahaha!

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Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Music Puzzle, a puzzle game from Shard Workshop

Hi William.
We will probably include something to begin with, but the funniest thing is
rearranging the music YOU listen to. Best thing you can do then, is to
obtain map, wave or ogg versions of your files ;)

2012/11/3 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

will any songs come with it?
i have an itunes library but it is only on my mac not on my netbook

On 3 Nov 2012, at 18:22, Shard Workshop shardworks...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi everyone!
Long time no hear, but here we are more alive than ever!
During this silent time we have worked hard on a LOT of Shard related
things, and we'll update you all as soon as possible, but let's start
with
one of the most interesting things: a new game !

Music Puzzle is the audio version of the popular jigsaw puzzle in which
instead of rearranging a picture you'll have to rebuild a song!

It's quite a simple game, but fun and for everyone, both for a five
minutes
time killing game and for a more complex and long game with hundreds of
pieces.

Price and release date will be released soon. All we can say is that the
price will be low and the date will be soon ;)

For more detailed informations visit
http://www.shardworkshop.com/**music-puzzlehttp://www.shardworkshop.com/music-puzzle

Let us know what you think ;)
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Re: [Audyssey] Music Puzzle, a puzzle game from Shard Workshop

2012-11-03 Thread Shard Workshop

Ho Reinhard!
The release date is near, so very soon you'll be able to do much than hear
a sample or two: you'll try the demo!


2012/11/3 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

 Would it be possible to hear a sample of the game?

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 Workshop
 Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 2:23 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Music Puzzle, a puzzle game from Shard Workshop

 Hi everyone!
 Long time no hear, but here we are more alive than ever!
 During this silent time we have worked hard on a LOT of Shard related
 things, and we'll update you all as soon as possible, but let's start with
 one of the most interesting things: a new game !

 Music Puzzle is the audio version of the popular jigsaw puzzle in which
 instead of rearranging a picture you'll have to rebuild a song!

 It's quite a simple game, but fun and for everyone, both for a five minutes
 time killing game and for a more complex and long  game with hundreds of
 pieces.

 Price and release date will be released soon. All we can say is that the
 price will be low and the date will be soon ;)

 For more detailed informations visit
 http://www.shardworkshop.com/music-puzzle

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Re: [Audyssey] zero sight: extended operations released

2012-05-18 Thread Shard Workshop

Thanks for the support and for spreading the word!
For some reason the mail we sent yesterday here hasn't arrived. Well there
it is, with all the link you may need!

---

Hello everyone!

Zero Sight: Extended Operations, the expansion for our flight simulator
audiogame is out now for just 10$.

You can buy it by visiting the official page at
http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight-extended-operations

Remember that Extended Operations is not stand alone, thus it requires the
original Zero Sight installed.

If you happen to have any technical problem please write in the thread
opened in the official forum. In this way it'll be easier to support you.
http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=56

Here are the links to the dev diaries

Aerial refueling dev diary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MDFn_9lajw
Terrain dev diary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiVH1Tm5f6k
Ejection dev diary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLyNkPt3eW4
Random missions dev diary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyeTdlL2IQE
MK20 bombs dev diary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts2xbl1K_nY
Have fun, all of you, and thanks for the support!

the Shard Workshop team

2012/5/18 Pitermach piterm...@gmail.com

Subject says it all. This game is awesome and it just got even cooler.

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Re: [Audyssey] A Proposal for Game Developers

2012-03-27 Thread Shard Workshop

Hi Thomas, that's a good idea, and we, Shard Workshop, know exactly what
you are talking about (somebody already mentioned us here).
I am not blind, and I have a very strong background as videogamer and I
have literally tons of idea of how to reproduce the mainstream sensation in
the audiogame scene, and doing so is one of the main aim of the Shard
Workshop project.

As somebody already pointed out, doing triple A games (the very high
quality ones) requires both time and money: the more we stay in the
audiogame market, the more we can invest in audiogames, thanks to the sold
copies. That means that our projects will be more complex and literally big
as the time goes.
Be patient, we're working very hard!

Keep up the good work Thomas!

2012/3/27 Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

Hi everyone,

I've just had an idea that might aid current and future audio game
developers. I realize that many of the people on this list are blind and
have been blind since birth and therefore haven't had much experience with
mainstream games. As a result a lot of developers and gamers look at some
audio game and assume that it is somehow representative of that type of
game even though it might be lacking in several areas. Often times the
developer himself/herself is unaware of this fact because they haven't been
exposed to that genre of game before.

For example, let's say someone downloaded Super Liam and assumed that all
mainstream side-scrollers were like that. Of course, they'd be wrong
because Super Liam does not really deal with a 2d environment, doesn't
really have an up/down axis of movement, and most action is handled from
left to right. There is no advanced combat that takes advantage of a 2d
environment like flying enemies you have to shoot out of the air, enemies
above you in the tree tops, and other such traps common to mainstream
games. It is certainly a decent game, but is not representative of true
side-scrollers.

Since this seems to be a common issue with blind developers and blind
gamers alike I thought what I'd do is write a document outlining what
mainstream games are like, use some classic examples of 2d side-scrollers,
3d first-person shooters, and some 3d third-person shooters. Maybe do a
chapter on arcade games and try and describe a few different examples of
that genre. Especially, since most people have done the Space Invaders
thing, but there is a lot more to arcade than Space Invader type games. I
think if I write a document on explaining each kind of game in detail,
explain what kinds of features are common to each, maybe audio game
developers will be able to come away with some new ideas and be able to
begin building more advanced audio games. Anyone interested in this idea?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-27 Thread Shard Workshop

Hi, what Dark told you is correct.

Anyway everyone remember that with the new patch you can change the heading
system from the Cartesian standard to the Clock one, with 0 degrees being
North.

To download the patch or the updated demo go here:
http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

2011/12/23 Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com

Hello Shard and everyone on this list,

I surmise that 90 north means you go to the North, not Northeast, but to
the right but still heading north? It is just I have not heard of this said
direction thing before in my life.
M. Deniz.

P. S.
Sorry if I have understood what has been said here about the direction
compass in a wrong manner.
- Original Message - From: Shard Workshop
shardworks...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 4:42 PM

Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

We are looking into it.
The current system is the Cartesian coordinate system, commonly used in
every mathematical thing :D

2011/12/20 Dallas O'Brien dallas-obr...@bigpond.com

far enough. perhaps an idea with the navigation would be to have it as a
toggle, so you can choose which system you prefer?
if i may ask, where does the current system of direction come from? so as
i may understand it a little better.
best regards
dallas

On 20/12/2011 22:47, Shard Workshop wrote:

As soon as the patch will be ready, it will freely downloadable from
http:
www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sighthttp://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-**sight
http://www.**shardworkshop.com/zero-sighthttp://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
**for anyone who bought the game. The ones

with the demo will just need to re download it.

On the compass matter, everyone may be right. We know that 0 North is
something a lot of you are used, but we're receiving also positive
review
from people who like 90 North, so it's probably a matter of preference!

As for some of the flying tricks, you are right, Zero Sight is not a
perfect simulator, but we HAD to relax some realistic aspects to gran a
bit
of playability. Anyway, when you shut your engines a real plan does not
fall like an anvil or like wile e. coyote :D. You have momentum, so
you'll
still be flying a bit forward.

As for Mario, yes using the official forum would be really the best
thing
:D

We are glad that you all like the game people, Keep flying and spread
the
word!!

2011/12/20 Mariom...@tiscali.it

hi,

Lorenzo wrote:

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=*
*50 http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
http://www.shardworkshop.**com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5**t=50http://www.shardworkshop.com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

**http://www.shardworkshop.**com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5**t=50http://www.shardworkshop.com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
http://www.shardworkshop.**com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=**50http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

I think that you can use also this thread.

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Re: [Audyssey] zero sight flying question

2011-12-24 Thread Shard Workshop

Yep, it'll probably change with the next patch :D.
Anyway what you say is correct, and to make things simpler there is the
fine tuning system for the headings (shift + arrow key)

2011/12/24 dark d...@xgam.org

Hi Alan.

It's all about the angle. keep track of your vertical heading with the t
key. When it's zero you've leveled out.

Also personally i never bother flying above 30 myself, sinse it's far
easier to land if your closer to the ground, and there are no penalties for
low flying at all, unrealistic as this sounds, though this may change in
the future.

Beware the grue!
Dark.
- Original Message - From: Allen allen.j...@foxvalley.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 3:11 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] zero sight flying question

Is there a keystroke to level off when the proper altitude is reached? I
get to 400 and when I pull back on the stick I start to descend and I don't
stop descending, but if I pull forward I rise and keep rising. I goo up
and down until I eventually crash.

Sincerely,
Allen
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-23 Thread Shard Workshop

At the moment we have no plans for something that big, but in the future..
who knows :D

2011/12/20 Dallas O'Brien dallas-obr...@bigpond.com

good to hear!
by the way, a sigestion from a friend of mine who is going to be buying
the game today.
if your looking for ideas for your next game, he sigested that you think
about a helicopter game. as this would entail a few things that flying a
plain do not.
don't know if you would take that idea and run it as a seperate game, or
make zero sight a multi aircraft system, where you can pick the aircraft
your going to use.
anyway, thought i would throw that idea out for you to decide on.
best regards
dallas

On 21/12/2011 07:42, Shard Workshop wrote:

Don't worry guys, we actually listen to the community and we're working on
a toggle ;)

2011/12/20 Dallas
O'Briendallas-obrien@bigpond.**comdallas-obr...@bigpond.com

ahh, ok. interesting way of doing things in a flight sim, as what do
pilots have in front of them? ... a compass. all plains have one.
actually,
they have several. lol.
let alone gps systems, which work on compass headings.
i think at the very least, a toggle could be used to switch between that
and compass bearings, but perhaps i am to used to actual flight controls.
but also, as has been pointed out, its what most people use in day to day
usage, so it would be easier for them to understand compass bearings.
dallas

On 21/12/2011 06:40, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Dallas,

He is using the Cartesian system of angles for direction in Zero
Sight. It makes sense if we are talking Geometry or some higher level
math like that, but most people use the Bearing system when referring
to north, south, east, and west directions in day to day life. North
is (0, 0, 0) and south is (1, 8, 0) in the Bearing system, but in a
Cartesian system (0, 0, 0) is east, and (1, 8, 0) is west.Its easier
from a mathematical point of view to calculate angles when 0 is at a
right angle.

Cheers!

On 12/20/11, Dallas O'Briendallas-obrien@bigpond.com
dallas-obrien@bigpond.**com dallas-obr...@bigpond.com

wrote:

far enough. perhaps an idea with the navigation would be to have it as
a
toggle, so you can choose which system you prefer?
if i may ask, where does the current system of direction come from? so
as i may understand it a little better.
best regards
dallas

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Re: [Audyssey] a thought on the Shard Workshop project

2011-12-23 Thread Shard Workshop

Guys you should really read the official website from time to time.
From the official Zero Sight page:  if you have the demo and want to try
the new version, just uninstall your demo and download it again: the new
demo file is yet at version 1.01

2011/12/22 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

 i think it applies to the demo, to

 On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:

  If the patch is only for the full version, what about those of us who
 want to try the demo, with the changes having been made, to determine
 whether or not we want to buy?  I do want the heading of 0 degrees to be
 north, rather than 90 degrees being north.  I would not buy a game based on
 a buggy demo. Thanks.
 
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  - Original Message - From: Shard Workshop 
 shardworks...@gmail.com
  To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
  Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a thought on the Shard Workshop project
 
 
  Hi Thomas, if you are still interested, with patch 1.01 we have
 introduced
  the possibility of changing the default (Cartesian) heading with the
 Clock
  heading, with 0 degrees to the North, just by pressing A in the main
 menu.
  Just redownload the patch to try it out in case you want.
 
  http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
  2011/12/22 Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
 
  Hi Chris,
 
  I agree. I tried the Zero Sight demo myself and it doesn't really grab
  my attention the way Lone Wolf does. Yeah, Lone Wolf doesn't
  necessarily stick to true physics either, but as you pointed out the
  experience does feel more realistic as a simulation than Zero Sight
  when we come down to a one on one comparison between the two.
 
  I honestly think Lone Wolf sets a president for any kind of combat
  simulation because it offers several starter missions, the ability to
  create custom missions, and the user interface is fairly straight
  forward. The keyboard commands are easy to remember because they make
  sense. A for area, f for fuel, d for depth, s for speed, etc are
  logical assignments.
 
  With Zero Sight I felt as though some keyboard assignments didn't make
  sense, and having 0 oriented to east instead of north just made the
  game too confusing for me.I'm willing to keep an an open mind about
  the game, but unless some of the things I don't particularly like get
  changed in the future I probably won't buy Zero Sight. I guess it
  doesn't really live up to my expectations for a flight simulator.
 
  Cheers!
 
 
  On 12/22/11, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote:
   I don't think so, though others may disagree.  While Zero Sight
 seems  to
   provide an in-depth flying experience, I was actually quite 
 disappointed
  in
   the modeling of how one actually flies an aircraft.  I understand
 that
  those
   physics are difficult to make playable, so don't hold it against the
   developer, but it was sufficient to have me uninstalling the current
  demo.
  
   Lone Wolf's sub controls aren't exhaustively realistic, but they come
  much
   closer to providing the flavor of managing a submarine than do the 
 flight
   controls and avionics of Zero Sight.  I'm not saying don't enjoy the
  game if
   you do, but no, it's not yet in the class of Lone Wolf for this
 gamer.
  
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-23 Thread Shard Workshop

We are looking into it.
The current system is the Cartesian coordinate system, commonly used in
every mathematical thing :D

2011/12/20 Dallas O'Brien dallas-obr...@bigpond.com

On 20/12/2011 22:47, Shard Workshop wrote:

As soon as the patch will be ready, it will freely downloadable from http:
www.shardworkshop.com/zero-**sighthttp://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sightfor
anyone who bought the game. The ones
with the demo will just need to re download it.

On the compass matter, everyone may be right. We know that 0 North is
something a lot of you are used, but we're receiving also positive review
from people who like 90 North, so it's probably a matter of preference!

As for Mario, yes using the official forum would be really the best thing
:D

We are glad that you all like the game people, Keep flying and spread the
word!!

2011/12/20 Mariom...@tiscali.it

hi,

Lorenzo wrote:

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread,
http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50http://www.shardworkshop.com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
**http://www.shardworkshop.com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

I think that you can use also this thread.

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Re: [Audyssey] a thought on the Shard Workshop project

2011-12-23 Thread Shard Workshop

Yep, but one line below it says that if you have the demo you just have to
download and reinstall it to have the changes.

2011/12/22 Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com

It's a bit confusing, because it says, on the web page, that the patch is
for the full version. Yet, I think, the developer said, to this list, that
the changes were made to the patch, no mention of the demo. I went ahead
and redownloaded the demo again, just in case.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a thought on the Shard Workshop project

i think it applies to the demo, to

On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:29 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:

If the patch is only for the full version, what about those of us who
want to try the demo, with the changes having been made, to determine
whether or not we want to buy? I do want the heading of 0 degrees to be
north, rather than 90 degrees being north. I would not buy a game based on
a buggy demo. Thanks.

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shardworks...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a thought on the Shard Workshop project

Hi Thomas, if you are still interested, with patch 1.01 we have
introduced
the possibility of changing the default (Cartesian) heading with the
Clock
heading, with 0 degrees to the North, just by pressing A in the main
menu.
Just redownload the patch to try it out in case you want.

http://www.shardworkshop.com/**zero-sighthttp://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

2011/12/22 Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

Hi Chris,

I agree. I tried the Zero Sight demo myself and it doesn't really grab
my attention the way Lone Wolf does. Yeah, Lone Wolf doesn't
necessarily stick to true physics either, but as you pointed out the
experience does feel more realistic as a simulation than Zero Sight
when we come down to a one on one comparison between the two.

I honestly think Lone Wolf sets a president for any kind of combat
simulation because it offers several starter missions, the ability to
create custom missions, and the user interface is fairly straight
forward. The keyboard commands are easy to remember because they make
sense. A for area, f for fuel, d for depth, s for speed, etc are
logical assignments.

With Zero Sight I felt as though some keyboard assignments didn't make
sense, and having 0 oriented to east instead of north just made the
game too confusing for me.I'm willing to keep an an open mind about
the game, but unless some of the things I don't particularly like get
changed in the future I probably won't buy Zero Sight. I guess it
doesn't really live up to my expectations for a flight simulator.

Cheers!

On 12/22/11, Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think so, though others may disagree. While Zero Sight
seemsto
provide an in-depth flying experience, I was actually quite
disappointed
in
the modeling of how one actually flies an aircraft. I understand
that
those
physics are difficult to make playable, so don't hold it against the
developer, but it was sufficient to have me uninstalling the current
demo.

Lone Wolf's sub controls aren't exhaustively realistic, but they come
much
closer to providing the flavor of managing a submarine than do the
flight
controls and avionics of Zero Sight. I'm not saying don't enjoy the
game if
you do, but no, it's not yet in the class of Lone Wolf for this
gamer.

Chris Bartlett

Re: [Audyssey] Slight Issue with New Zero Sight Demo

2011-12-22 Thread Shard Workshop

Yes, I con confirm that problem, it should be fixed now, try downloading
the demo again.
Sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for the heads up!

2011/12/22 Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@gmail.com

Hi,

I just visited the Shard Workshop site, and noticed a new demo version of
Zero Sight is now available, or so I assume since the 1.01 Full patch is
mentioned. I downloaded it, thinking that maybe there was a bug with the
first one that was preventing me from getting off the ground, but after
choosing Free Flight from the menu, I noticed that the F3 key no longer
informs me of the length of the airstrip. Is anyone else experiencing this?
And in case you're wondering, I still can't take off, despite reading the
manual and all.

Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelly John Sapergia
Show Host and Production Director
The Global Voice Internet Radio
www.theglobalvoice.info

Personal Website: www.ksapergia.net
Business Website: www.kjsproductions.com

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Re: [Audyssey] a thought on the Shard Workshop project

2011-12-22 Thread Shard Workshop

Hah, great! But don't worry, everybody can be our kind of customer, we
surely don't think of making only flight simulator, we've got a lot a
interesting things for you in the future :D

2011/12/22 Christopher Bartlett themusicalbre...@gmail.com

 I'll echo Thomas' good wishes and praise for you.  I am not your typical
 consumer, so don't take my critique too much to heart.  One of these days,
 I'll get around to converting that excel data into the flight sim I want to
 play, which will likely interest only me.  *smile*

Chris Bartlett


 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:22 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a thought on the Shard Workshop project

 Thank you! We're really doing our best!

 2011/12/22 Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com

  Hi,
 
  thanks. I'll check the new demo out. As I said in my post I'm willing
  to keep an open mind on this game as there aren't too many good
  fighter sims out there for the blind and this one has potential. Just
  thought some of the bugs and features needed to be fixed before I was
  willing to spend money on it. However, if I haven't said so before you
  guys are off to a good start into the audio games community.
 
  Cheers!
 
  On 12/22/11, Shard Workshop shardworks...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi Thomas, if you are still interested, with patch 1.01 we have
  introduced
   the possibility of changing the default (Cartesian) heading with the
  Clock
   heading, with 0 degrees to the North, just by pressing A in the main
  menu.
   Just redownload the patch to try it out in case you want.
  
   http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread Shard Workshop

As soon as the patch will be ready, it will freely downloadable from http:
www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight for anyone who bought the game. The ones
with the demo will just need to re download it.

On the compass matter, everyone may be right. We know that 0 North is
something a lot of you are used, but we're receiving also positive review
from people who like 90 North, so it's probably a matter of preference!

As for some of the flying tricks, you are right, Zero Sight is not a
perfect simulator, but we HAD to relax some realistic aspects to gran a bit
of playability. Anyway, when you shut your engines a real plan does not
fall like an anvil or like wile e. coyote :D. You have momentum, so you'll
still be flying a bit forward.

As for Mario, yes using the official forum would be really the best thing :D

We are glad that you all like the game people, Keep flying and spread the
word!!

2011/12/20 Mario m...@tiscali.it

hi,

Lorenzo wrote:

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread,
http://www.shardworkshop.com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

I think that you can use also this thread.

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Re: [Audyssey] zero sight comments

2011-12-20 Thread Shard Workshop

Zachary and Hayen are perfectly right here ;).
Thanks for the user-to-user support

2011/12/20 Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

 Hi,
 I can understand that. The way I see it is that if you train your ear, you
 can catch the relevant information. In addition, it would be easy to miss
 something vital to whatever you are trying to do.

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


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 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
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 Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 4:34 PM
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 Subject: [Audyssey] zero sight comments

 Hi, Listers,

 I have been playing the demo and finally got into the air but my engines
 stalled and I crashed which was actually cool.  However, even with my
 screen
 reader off, too often there are two many voices talking at once and it
 becomes often impossible to hear the report when I press z for my altitude
 or s for my speed for example.  Could it be possible to create a patch that
 stops the current voice or voices when you press a button to get a certain
 piece of information?  Just my two cents.

 Sincerely,
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Re: [Audyssey] an error in Zero sight

2011-12-20 Thread Shard Workshop

This is a well know bug, that we managed to track down and fix. The fix
will be included in the next patch. For the moment be sure to be have an
airport selected when you pres F1, F2 or F3. To be sure of your selection,
press F11 untile the Flying Interface says browsing airports and then
press F9 to cycle through the airports.

2011/12/20 Lukáš Kakara lukas86.kak...@seznam.cz

Hi my friends,
please help me. When I launch the demo of this fantastic game, I start my
aircraft and fly, but if I want to land and press F3key to ask control
towet, this log file is view:
ERROR in
action number 1
of Key Press Event for F3 Key
for object Player:

Error in code at line 3:

if (global.selairport.ray == 20)

at position 28: Unknown variable ray

Please, what can I do? Is it only my problem? Or in the demo is not
possible landing? Thank you very much.

--
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Re: [Audyssey] an error in Zero sight

2011-12-20 Thread Shard Workshop

No, they are pretty much random. They are needed to be sure that you have
selected an airport (the airports are the only items that are identified
with a three-digit number)!

Hayden, a special thank you for you for the user-to-user suppor you are
doing!

2011/12/20 Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

 Hi Lorenzo,
 So, when browisn g through the airports, I notice they are identified with
 a
 three-digit number. Is there significance to which number comes first?

 Best Regards,
 Hayden

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 Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:51 AM
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 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] an error in Zero sight

 This is a well know bug, that we managed to track down and fix. The fix
 will be included in the next patch. For the moment be sure to be have an
 airport selected when you pres F1, F2 or F3. To be sure of your selection,
 press F11 untile the Flying Interface says browsing airports and then
 press F9 to cycle through the airports.

 2011/12/20 Lukáš Kakara lukas86.kak...@seznam.cz

  Hi my friends,
  please help me. When I launch the demo of this fantastic game, I start my
  aircraft and fly, but if I want to land and press F3key to ask control
  towet, this log file is view:
  ERROR in
  action number 1
  of Key Press Event for F3 Key
  for object Player:
 
  Error in code at line 3:
 
 if (global.selairport.ray == 20)
 
  at position 28: Unknown variable ray
 
 
 
  Please, what can I do? Is it only my problem? Or in the demo is not
  possible landing? Thank you very much.
 
  --
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Re: [Audyssey] Need Help Taking Off In Zero Sight

2011-12-20 Thread Shard Workshop

Press the S key.
Please remember that all these informations are in the manual!

2011/12/20 Kelly Sapergia ksaper...@gmail.com

Hi,

How do you determine the speed instead of the engine power?

Thanks.

Yours Sincerely,
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-20 Thread Shard Workshop

Actually, the right place is the thread in the official forum:
http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

2011/12/20 shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com

yes this is one of the places.
The audiogames.net forum is another to.
Its got more people on it but then it doesn't matter where you post your
bugs to, a lot of people on here are in the forum including me, though I
don't post often.

At 11:24 p.m. 19/12/2011 +0100, you wrote:

Hi all.
Is this a right place where to report Zerosight bugs and suggestions?
Thanks a lot.
Gabriele.

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Re: [Audyssey] Need Help Taking Off In Zero Sight

2011-12-20 Thread Shard Workshop

All the info here: http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

2011/12/20 lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com

 where can i find that game and how much will it be i want to try out the
 game

 On 12/20/11, william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com wrote:
  i hold down the down arrow it seems to take me off remember when u hold
 down
  arrow the nose is pointing up think of it like TDV when you hold down
 page
  down the angle of attack i.e. the nose sent you upwards
 
  On Dec 20, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Kelly Sapergia wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I was right then about the S key, good. I just recorded a file showing
 my
  attempt at taking off. If anyone knows what I'm doing wrong, please let
 me
  know. The link to get the file is:
  http://www.ksapergia.net/zero_sight_takeoff.mp3
 
  Thanks.
 
  Yours Sincerely,
  Kelly John Sapergia
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Shard Workshop

This is something we are considering right now, thanks anyway for the nice
suggestion!

2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

 Do you know if you will ever add mouse support? I think mouse support would
 give finer control of the airplane and there are several audio games using
 this type of control as well.
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 Great!

 2011/12/19 Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com

  Hi yep will give it a try when i can not normely the kind of game i'm
 good
  at but really think i'll give the demmo a try then if i like it concidder
  buying it.
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Shard Workshop

The reference system is based on the Cartesian coordinate system, that's
why 0 is East. I'm sure you great pilots will get used to it in a flight or
two ;)

2011/12/19 Dallas O'Brien dallas-obr...@bigpond.com

yeah. its looking good. one idea though, for the developer. would it be
possible to set the directions, as compass directions? as its quite
disorienting to have degrees that don't match up to compass headings. like,
0 being north, not east, 90 being east, 180 being south, and 270 being west?
this would be a lot easier for those of us used to working with such
directions from other devices and games.
Dallas

On 19/12/2011 13:49, Ron Kolesar wrote:

For my fellow blind pilot love to be.
I've already down loaded the demo.
Man do we have a lot to learn. SMILES.
I think the best thing for us to do is to write some Braille reminders of
the shortcut keystrokes and their functions so that we can at least get off
of the ground. SMILES.
So that's my opinion of the new hand to ear flight simulator at this time.

-Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:01 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
real
initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at
http://www.shardworkshop.com/**zero-sighthttp://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread,
http://www.shardworkshop.com/**forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
audiogames that will really change the way you play.

Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

Good luck, pilots.. and let us know what you think.
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Shard Workshop

We are considering this too. Thank you!

@EVERYBODY
Sorry for flooding your mails. What do you guys and gals do when you have
to answer 5 or 6 mail in the same topic? Do you answer with single mails to
the single person or with a big mail full of @xxx @yyy ?
Thanks ;)

2011/12/19 Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com

Hello,
Is there a way to turn down the background main menu music? Some of the
information being displayed is a little hard for me to understand. I hope
that the game will continue to improve steadily with each update.
Alfredo

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Shard Workshop

The z key only tells you th altitude, it doesn't really change it. Keep
trying!
In the demo map there is only one aircraft, and is to the North compared to
your position.
The main differences between the demo and the full release is that in the
full release you get to play 8 missions with briefing and objectives, 8 map
(of which one is completely random generated, that is, is different every
time you play it) in which you can do whatever you want (much like the demo
map, but with a lot of enemy airports genating air and land traffic),
you'll be able to use all the four missiles and customize the cargo of your
aircraft.

2011/12/19 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

 when i take off can't seem to climb pressing down arrow is sending my nose
 up i know that, but i can't get the z key to make altitude climb. also i
 just seem to be flying around aimlessly in the free flight mode is this
 where no enemies are concerned?
 what will be the difference between option 2, map mode, and option 3, free
 flight, if i buy the game?
 also the overlapping announcements are confusing to be honest.

 On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:02 AM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

  I too would appreciate that.
  I was always taught the following.
  Look at a clock. Each number of the clock equaled thirty degrees. But
 both either 0 and or 360 was north.
  090 degrees with east.
  180 was south, and 270 degrees was west.
  One other recommendation
  Any chance of writing in USB game pad and or USB flight yoke support
 into the game.
  I think this would be easier than trying to remember all of the keyboard
 commands.
  Just a thought to make the new sim as close to realistic as possible.
  Ron and trusty four pawed copilot/first officer Leader Dog Boz.
 
  -Original Message- From: Dallas O'Brien
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 10:55 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  yeah. its looking good. one idea though, for the developer. would it be
  possible to set the directions, as compass directions? as its quite
  disorienting to have degrees that don't match up to compass headings.
  like, 0 being north, not east, 90 being east, 180 being south, and 270
  being west?
  this would be a lot easier for those of us used to working with such
  directions from other devices and games.
  Dallas
 
 
  On 19/12/2011 13:49, Ron Kolesar wrote:
  For my fellow blind pilot love to be.
  I've already down loaded the demo.
  Man do we have a lot to learn. SMILES.
  I think the best thing for us to do is to write some Braille reminders
 of the shortcut keystrokes and their functions so that we can at least get
 off of the ground. SMILES.
  So that's my opinion of the new hand to ear flight simulator at this
 time.
 
  -Original Message- From: Shard Workshop
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:01 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
 real
  initiation in the world of audiogaming.
 
  Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
  has been released just now.
 
  You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
  We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to
 be
  100% that it works on your machine.
 
  If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
  thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
 
  We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
  audiogames that will really change the way you play.
 
  Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...
 
  Good luck, pilots.. and let us know what you think.
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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-19 Thread Shard Workshop

The first patch will add the shortcuts! And who is downloading now should
yet have them.
Thanks for the feedback!

2011/12/19 Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com

 Hi Lorenzo,
 Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
 tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
 ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
 eMail...lol

 Best Regards,
 Hayden


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 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:24 PM
 To: raydar11...@yahoo.com; Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
 workshop\zero sight.

 2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

  I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it
 on
  the website for in the program group in the start menu.
  -Original Message-
  From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Shard Workshop
  Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!
 
  Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its
 real
  initiation in the world of audiogaming.
 
  Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
  has been released just now.
 
  You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
 
  We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
  100% that it works on your machine.
 
  If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
  thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50
 
  We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
  audiogames that will really change the way you play.
 
  Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...
 
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Re: [Audyssey] ordered zero sight

2011-12-19 Thread Shard Workshop

That's great William!

2011/12/19 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

hi i ordered zero sight as the demo whilst good won't give you the
 true scope of the game until u get it for real so going give it a go


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Re: [Audyssey] Zero Sight Patch

2011-12-19 Thread Shard Workshop

Hi Ryan, as soon as the patch will be available, it will be possible for
everyone to download it from Zero Sight official page,
http://shardworkshop.com/zero-sight.

The downloaded file will very likely be a setup that will auto install the
new files. In that way you'll be able to enjoy the changes and fixes!

2011/12/19 Ryan Conroy staindadd...@juno.com

 Hi,

 Forgive me if this post has been answered already, but how do we get the
 patch for Zero Sight if we already ordered it and have it installed on our
 system?


 
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Re: [Audyssey] Top 25 websites for gamers who are blind

2011-12-19 Thread Shard Workshop

I would like to suggest Shard Workshop.
We just released our first audiogame, Zero Sight, that is a pretty complex
flight simulator.

I know I'm biased, but this is just to let you know we exist! I don't want
to influence your decision, so these are some sources of information:

Our website here: www.shardworkshop.com, especially on the zero sight
section and on the project section.

Some threads on audiogames.net, like
http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=6788, or
http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=6740, or
http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?id=6705

Thank you!

2011/12/19 Eleanor Robinson elea...@7128.com

 Gamers - I think my request for information got lost in the shuffle.  We
 would like people on this list to let us know if there are any websites we
 should consider for the Top 25 list that are not currently on our list.  If
 there are, please let me know so they will be included in our review.

 Thanks.

 Eleanor Robinson
 7-128 Software

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Re: [Audyssey] demo of zero sight

2011-12-18 Thread Shard Workshop

Great William!
Yes you'll be able to download the demo freely, but when you'll buy the
game there will be another download.

2011/12/18 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

 HI all especial to lorenzo

 When the game is released ont he 19th, zero sight I mean, do we have to
 download 2 separate files?
 One for demo and another one for full version? or will it all be in the
 same download?
 I guess not though as no registration system.

 I tell everyone now, if I do buy the title I am not putting it anywhere
 for people who can't be bothered to pay just so you all know where I
 personally stand on this point.
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Re: [Audyssey] demo of zero sight

2011-12-18 Thread Shard Workshop

The demo will feature a modified version of the training map, with a pair
of enemies flying in the sky. You'll not be able to use oll the weapons
etc. You'll be able to play the demo for how long you want.

As for the timed missions, yes, sometimes you have to complete the mission
before something happens.

2011/12/18 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

 any info yet on how the demo work? do we just get the landing and take off
 map so fly around with no enemies?
 also are the missions timed or do we have as long as required?

 On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Shard Workshop wrote:

  Great William!
  Yes you'll be able to download the demo freely, but when you'll buy the
  game there will be another download.
 
  2011/12/18 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com
 
  HI all especial to lorenzo
 
  When the game is released ont he 19th, zero sight I mean, do we have to
  download 2 separate files?
  One for demo and another one for full version? or will it all be in the
  same download?
  I guess not though as no registration system.
 
  I tell everyone now, if I do buy the title I am not putting it anywhere
  for people who can't be bothered to pay just so you all know where I
  personally stand on this point.
  WIll
 
 
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[Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Shard Workshop

Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its real
initiation in the world of audiogaming.

Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.

You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
100% that it works on your machine.

If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
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Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Shard Workshop

It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
workshop\zero sight.

2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com

 I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it on
 the website for in the program group in the start menu.
 -Original Message-
 From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
 Behalf Of Shard Workshop
 Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

 Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its real
 initiation in the world of audiogaming.

 Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
 has been released just now.

 You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight

 We strongly advise you to try the demo before buying the game, just to be
 100% that it works on your machine.

 If you happen to have technical problems write on the official support
 thread, http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=50

 We know that this is just the first of a long series of releases and
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 Remember, this is just the beginning of the audiorevolution...

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Re: [Audyssey] Shard Workshop Zero Sight released!

2011-12-18 Thread Shard Workshop

Great!

2011/12/19 Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com

 Hi yep will give it a try when i can not normely the kind of game i'm good
 at but really think i'll give the demmo a try then if i like it concidder
 buying it.

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Re: [Audyssey] Blind Gamers Being Taken Seriously?

2011-12-17 Thread Shard Workshop

Hi all,

I'm Lorenzo Bellincampi, founder of Shard Workshop, an audiogame
development project. Maybe someone of you already knows me.
This is an interesting topic Jeremy, and I wanted to add the point of view
of a developer.
I agree with a lot of what you said, especially the part in which you say
that you have seen sighted gamers saying well, they can play text  games.
We, at Shard Workshop, strongly believe that being blind is much less
contraining then what a lot of people think, when it comes a videogaming. I
have a strong background as videogamer and I know that the biggest part of
the emotions in gaming come from the audio, music and sound effects, so I
believe that audiogames could be a lot better than what are now (aside from
few examples of good games.) To this end you can read more here
http://www.shardworkshop.com/the-project .

As a developer for the blind community I have one big problem: finding all
of you. It seems (and is confirmed by a few of you) that the
word-of-mouth is the absolutely dominant way to learn news, in the blind
community. People really prefer to learn things from unofficial sources
like perfectly unknown people rather than going straight to the official
source, where you can have your info sooner and better.
In this way it is hard to spread news and things, and I believe that a lot
of times, developers find themselves with very few sold copies just because
a lot of people didn't know about the game.

I also agre with Charles with the constructive criticism. The Shard
Workshop project is very young, but I want it to be future job, so I'm
ready to put everything on it and so I'll be clearly ready to learn from
you all.
I have a lot of ideas for a lot of things (not only the final products),
but I'm sure that I can get better with your help. I mean.. it's good for
both sides: you'll get better games and I'll get Shard Workshop to live :D

In conclusion, if you guys and gals didn't know about Shard Workshop, than
check our website @ http://www.shardworkshop.com, it may be what you were
looking for.
As for the spreading issue, we have an official forum too, and we would
be very happy to have you all on those boards discussing audiogames! It
should surely make our life simpler when it'll come to learn, offer
support, and just discuss with you (that, in our principles, it absolutely
mandatory).

2011/12/17 Jeremy Hartley jeremyhart...@comcast.net

 Hello All,

 I have been a member of this list since 2000 or 2001, whenever this list in
 all of the many forms was begun.  I have also been a business owner, a
 professional musician, and now work as a computer trainer for blind and
 sighted individuals.  As you may guess, since I am on this list, I happen
 to
 be totally blind, and have been so for my entire life of 36 years.

 Like it or not, we as blind and visually impaired individuals, exist in a
 sighted world.  Choke it down.  Get used to it, and get over it, and get
 with it.  So, what does this all mean for any of us blind gamers?  Plenty!

 Whether we like it or not, we are viewed differently by the sighted world.
 Differently?  What does that mean.  Well, to me, I have seen sighted gamers
 say things like, well, they can play text games.  Or, well, why do the
 blind
 even need to play games like us anyway.  Ok, that really stings to read
 such
 comments, but it is due to an ignorance of most of this sighted world.
  Yes,
 I said ignorance.  Not stupidity!  Too often, people mix up ignorance and
 stupidity, and call it at that.

 So, why should we care?  I mean, we have our games written by Jim Kitchen,
 draconis, and other devs who are either visually impaired or realize we are
 out there, hungry to play games.  Taken nothing away from those people, why
 shouldn't we as people, not blind, not visually impaired people, just
 people, be taken seriously?

 Well, we are in some ways, but not in other ways.  I have found that in
 order to be taken seriously by the sighted world, we need to show that we
 know what we are talking about, enough to capture their interest.  Not
 everyone can get the point across when it comes to interests and what blind
 and visually impaired people are capable of accomplishing.  After all, we
 all have our interests, pleasures and dislikes.

 So, what can we do?  The answer is simple, if one takes the time to put
 things into perspective.  We all want a lot of the same things, but we go
 about accomplishing them in the wrong way a lot of times.

 What it really comes down to, at least for me, is that we really need to
 step up and give any sighted game dev a picture of what we are asking for.
 If a map is not read by voiceover on the Iphone, why is that?  Have we
 explored the window with our voiceover cursor?  If so, then what can we say
 to the dev to make sense of our needs.  Does text need to be placed on the
 map?  If so, what text, and would it be beneficial to have map coordinates
 mentioned?  Would that be enough?  Would it require a whole

Re: [Audyssey] Zero Sight

2011-12-13 Thread Shard Workshop

It should run, but we still have to make specific tests. The system
requirements on the website are not definitive.

2011/12/10 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

 how good will this run on a netbook though i guess as said, not good
 really?

 On Dec 9, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Hayden Presley wrote:

  Hi,Yes;
  There's a certain pleasure in taking off manually rather than just having
  to taxi and getup into the air.
 
  Best Regards,
  Hayden
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Jorge Gonçalves
  Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 5:01 AM
  To: Gamers Discussion list
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Zero Sight
 
  Hello.
  I am really amazed with the sounds and concepts of your game.
  Really really loved it.
  It's been a longtime I was waiting for something like this.
  Keep up the great work.
  Cheers,
  Jorge Gonçalves
  jopo...@hotmail.com
  Skype: joport3
  Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge
  Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com
 
  On 12/9/2011 10:00 AM, Shard Workshop wrote:
  Hello Hayden, I'm Lorenzo Bellincampi, founder of Shard Workshop. Don't
  worry, having a desktop is not a strict requirement. If for some reason
  you
  don't have a keypad (netbook, some laptopt etc) there are two
 alternative
  keys for giving and taking power from the engines.
 
  2011/12/8 william lomaswill.d.lo...@gmail.com
 
  wonder when this is out i guess just started development though?
  also it mentions pressing the plus key what about I wonder, those who
 do
  not have a desktop?
 
  On Dec 8, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Hayden Presley wrote:
 
  Hi,
  I'm a little confused on that point myself; there seemed to be direct
  altitude control in the game, although that might just be the demo.
 
  Best Regards,
  Hayden
 
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Zero Sight

2011-12-09 Thread Shard Workshop

Hello Hayden, I'm Lorenzo Bellincampi, founder of Shard Workshop. Don't
worry, having a desktop is not a strict requirement. If for some reason you
don't have a keypad (netbook, some laptopt etc) there are two alternative
keys for giving and taking power from the engines.

2011/12/8 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

 wonder when this is out i guess just started development though?
 also it mentions pressing the plus key what about I wonder, those who do
 not have a desktop?

 On Dec 8, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Hayden Presley wrote:

  Hi,
  I'm a little confused on that point myself; there seemed to be direct
  altitude control in the game, although that might just be the demo.
 
  Best Regards,
  Hayden



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Re: [Audyssey] Zero Sight

2011-12-09 Thread Shard Workshop

Nope. If you have a keypad, the + and - keys are the right ones. In all the
other cases you'll be able to use the 9 and 0 digits, that are for sure in
any keyboard of any pc of any nationality.

2011/12/9 dark d...@xgam.org

does the pluss key on the number row not work?

When you said the pluss key in the trailer, that was the one I thought you
meant, not the numberpad.

Beware the grue!

Dark.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Zero Sight

Hello Hayden, I'm Lorenzo Bellincampi, founder of Shard Workshop. Don't
worry, having a desktop is not a strict requirement. If for some reason
you
don't have a keypad (netbook, some laptopt etc) there are two alternative
keys for giving and taking power from the engines.

2011/12/8 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com

wonder when this is out i guess just started development though?
also it mentions pressing the plus key what about I wonder, those who do
not have a desktop?

On Dec 8, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Hayden Presley wrote:

Hi,
I'm a little confused on that point myself; there seemed to be direct
altitude control in the game, although that might just be the demo.

Best Regards,
Hayden

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[Audyssey] Shard Workshop project is live!

2011-12-08 Thread Shard Workshop

Hi gamers!
I'm Lorenzo PixelSapiens Bellincampi and I'm here to inform you that a
new audiogames development project is born!

Shard Workshop is a project aimed at delivering the best audiogaming
experience for everyone, especially blind and visually impaired people
through the development of high quality audiogames (or in videogaming slang
AAA, triple A) designed from scratch to meet the highest expectations.

I really hope Shard Workshop to be my future job, so I'm putting everything
in it! The first title released will be a flight simulator, Zero Sight, of
which you can hear the first trailer here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFQa2oDPZOk

I'll leave here the links to the project (@moderators: if it's too much,
feel free to keep only the main site link [image: wink])

Official website: http://www.shardworkshop.com
Official forum: http://www.shardworkshop.com/forum
Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Shard-Wor …
4876576018http://www.facebook.com/pages/Shard-Workshop/102064876576018
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXAkqOfmQro

Have a nice audiogaming experience, all of you!
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