Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil,

That's a good question and one I've been doing some thinking about. I
think what I will do is create a section called Multiplatform Games
and under that include Muds, browser based games, interactive fiction,
etc since they can't be assigned to any specific OS and can be played
using Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever.

As for handheld games like BopIt as well as brailed board and card
games I'm still thinking of where to put those, but I'm sure I'll
figure that out given enough time. :D

Cheers!

On 4/10/13, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote:
 Hi Thomas,
 In the games platform list, where would you put on-line games like Sryth?
 How about hand held games like Bop-It?
 Phil

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-11 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun,

Well, for one thing Open CMS, (Content Management System,) is written
in Java, and I don't think is very accessible. Even if it were I am
running Audyssey on a server running Red Hat Enterprise, and I don't
really want to install and run the Open JRE for Linux on there given
that there are better alternatives to Open CMS. So no I wouldn't use
that as my first choice.

However, if people are concerned about editable content etc I have
thought about using a Wiki like Wikimedia which would allow me to
create the site, and allow people to edit the pages for reviews, post
walkthroughs, and all kinds of things just like on Wiki sites such as
Wikipedia, but that is down the road.

At the moment I am looking for a simple straight forward solution that
works. Nothing fancy, nothing complicated, and I don't want to spend a
lot of time writing an SQL database in MySQL and using php or perl
scripting the database. That stuff can wait until I have the time and
energy to work on it.

Cheers!

On 4/10/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 tom why don't you use something like open cms or simular database
 management thing I am not sure what you would have to do but ideally
 you would want something where users could either add change or if
 you wanted to be secure about it submit to the database for review.


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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-11 Thread James Bartlett
Hello

That sounds good. I like the idea of a wiki stile page. If u deside
2 do that I'll b looking forward 2 it.

Bfn
James

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From: Thomas Ward [mailto:thomasward1...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 5:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

Hi Shaun,

Well, for one thing Open CMS, (Content Management System,) is written in
Java, and I don't think is very accessible. Even if it were I am running
Audyssey on a server running Red Hat Enterprise, and I don't really want to
install and run the Open JRE for Linux on there given that there are better
alternatives to Open CMS. So no I wouldn't use that as my first choice.

However, if people are concerned about editable content etc I have thought
about using a Wiki like Wikimedia which would allow me to create the site,
and allow people to edit the pages for reviews, post walkthroughs, and all
kinds of things just like on Wiki sites such as Wikipedia, but that is down
the road.

At the moment I am looking for a simple straight forward solution that
works. Nothing fancy, nothing complicated, and I don't want to spend a lot
of time writing an SQL database in MySQL and using php or perl scripting the
database. That stuff can wait until I have the time and energy to work on
it.

Cheers!

On 4/10/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:
 tom why don't you use something like open cms or simular database 
 management thing I am not sure what you would have to do but ideally 
 you would want something where users could either add change or if you 
 wanted to be secure about it submit to the database for review.





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[Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hello all,

Today or tomorrow I want to begin working on the Audyssey games
database, and I was wondering how you all think I should organize and
arrange the games and developers. There are many ways to do this so I
thought I would throw a few suggestions out here and gather your
input.

The first way I could organize the database is by developer. I could
have a list of developers such as BSC Software, GMA Games, PCs Games,
Blind Adrenaline, etc and below that heading all the games they have
produced. Of course, the problem with that method is if you are
looking for a certain type of game it is difficult to find or locate
without going through and each and every game on the site.

The second method is to organize games by type or genre. I could  have
various categories such as action, strategy, card games, puzzle games,
etc. I think this would be a more acceptable method for organizing the
games on the site as you could go directly to the section that was of
interest and skip those sections that weren't of any interest.

The third option is similar to the second accept instead of just being
divided by genre they could also be divided up by platform such as Mac
OS, Windows, Linux, and iOS. Under those headings would be subheadings
such as action, strategy, card, puzzle, whatever. Any thoughts here?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Lisa Hayes
I like the second option type or gonra much simpler to navigate through not 
so much of an oniopn other wise.

Lisa Hayes




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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database



Hello all,

Today or tomorrow I want to begin working on the Audyssey games
database, and I was wondering how you all think I should organize and
arrange the games and developers. There are many ways to do this so I
thought I would throw a few suggestions out here and gather your
input.

The first way I could organize the database is by developer. I could
have a list of developers such as BSC Software, GMA Games, PCs Games,
Blind Adrenaline, etc and below that heading all the games they have
produced. Of course, the problem with that method is if you are
looking for a certain type of game it is difficult to find or locate
without going through and each and every game on the site.

The second method is to organize games by type or genre. I could  have
various categories such as action, strategy, card games, puzzle games,
etc. I think this would be a more acceptable method for organizing the
games on the site as you could go directly to the section that was of
interest and skip those sections that weren't of any interest.

The third option is similar to the second accept instead of just being
divided by genre they could also be divided up by platform such as Mac
OS, Windows, Linux, and iOS. Under those headings would be subheadings
such as action, strategy, card, puzzle, whatever. Any thoughts here?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Jacob Kruger
Are you planning to store the data/content in actual database, or just lay 
it out on pages in a structured arrangement?


Asking since, if in database, you could then let guys search, or request 
different sort orders, categorisations, etc. etc. using data queries 
generated by page controls, etc., easily enough?


As in wouldn't think it was necessarily necessary to sort of hard-code 
layout options/arrangement/ordering/categorisation as such - if that makes 
sense?


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:44 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database



Hello all,

Today or tomorrow I want to begin working on the Audyssey games
database, and I was wondering how you all think I should organize and
arrange the games and developers. There are many ways to do this so I
thought I would throw a few suggestions out here and gather your
input.

The first way I could organize the database is by developer. I could
have a list of developers such as BSC Software, GMA Games, PCs Games,
Blind Adrenaline, etc and below that heading all the games they have
produced. Of course, the problem with that method is if you are
looking for a certain type of game it is difficult to find or locate
without going through and each and every game on the site.

The second method is to organize games by type or genre. I could  have
various categories such as action, strategy, card games, puzzle games,
etc. I think this would be a more acceptable method for organizing the
games on the site as you could go directly to the section that was of
interest and skip those sections that weren't of any interest.

The third option is similar to the second accept instead of just being
divided by genre they could also be divided up by platform such as Mac
OS, Windows, Linux, and iOS. Under those headings would be subheadings
such as action, strategy, card, puzzle, whatever. Any thoughts here?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Angela Delicata
Hi,
The third solution would be fine for me.
Thanks.
Angela from Italy


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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:44 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

Hello all,

Today or tomorrow I want to begin working on the Audyssey games database,
and I was wondering how you all think I should organize and arrange the
games and developers. There are many ways to do this so I thought I would
throw a few suggestions out here and gather your input.

The first way I could organize the database is by developer. I could have a
list of developers such as BSC Software, GMA Games, PCs Games, Blind
Adrenaline, etc and below that heading all the games they have produced. Of
course, the problem with that method is if you are looking for a certain
type of game it is difficult to find or locate without going through and
each and every game on the site.

The second method is to organize games by type or genre. I could  have
various categories such as action, strategy, card games, puzzle games, etc.
I think this would be a more acceptable method for organizing the games on
the site as you could go directly to the section that was of interest and
skip those sections that weren't of any interest.

The third option is similar to the second accept instead of just being
divided by genre they could also be divided up by platform such as Mac OS,
Windows, Linux, and iOS. Under those headings would be subheadings such as
action, strategy, card, puzzle, whatever. Any thoughts here?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jacob,

For the moment its just going to be laid out on a page or pages in a
well organized structural arrangement. I don't have much time right
now to design a fully operational database per say, but I do want to
get something functional up and running for now. The easiest way to do
that would be to layout the site and page structure and add to it as
I have time. I can always go back and change it later as needed.

Cheers!

On 4/10/13, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote:
 Are you planning to store the data/content in actual database, or just lay
 it out on pages in a structured arrangement?

 Asking since, if in database, you could then let guys search, or request
 different sort orders, categorisations, etc. etc. using data queries
 generated by page controls, etc., easily enough?

 As in wouldn't think it was necessarily necessary to sort of hard-code
 layout options/arrangement/ordering/categorisation as such - if that makes
 sense?

 Stay well

 Jacob Kruger
 Blind Biker
 Skype: BlindZA
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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread James Bartlett
Hi

I think the 3rd would b the best out of the 3. Like u said the 1st u
would have 2 go through all the games that u wouldn't care 4 just 2 find the
ones u would play. The 2nd is not a bad idear, but the 3rd 1 will make it
easyer 4 people 2 find what they wont. 4 exsampal I don't have a iphone so
if I'm looking 4  a game and I can go by platform and then tipe that would
take a lot of the guess work out of it 4 me. That is just my thoughts on
that idear.

Hth
James

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From: Thomas Ward [mailto:thomasward1...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:44 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

Hello all,

Today or tomorrow I want to begin working on the Audyssey games database,
and I was wondering how you all think I should organize and arrange the
games and developers. There are many ways to do this so I thought I would
throw a few suggestions out here and gather your input.

The first way I could organize the database is by developer. I could have a
list of developers such as BSC Software, GMA Games, PCs Games, Blind
Adrenaline, etc and below that heading all the games they have produced. Of
course, the problem with that method is if you are looking for a certain
type of game it is difficult to find or locate without going through and
each and every game on the site.

The second method is to organize games by type or genre. I could  have
various categories such as action, strategy, card games, puzzle games, etc.
I think this would be a more acceptable method for organizing the games on
the site as you could go directly to the section that was of interest and
skip those sections that weren't of any interest.

The third option is similar to the second accept instead of just being
divided by genre they could also be divided up by platform such as Mac OS,
Windows, Linux, and iOS. Under those headings would be subheadings such as
action, strategy, card, puzzle, whatever. Any thoughts here?

Cheers!




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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Taboada

Hi Thomas,
I personally would go for the third approach, as if you really want to know 
what a specific developer has made you can probably just go to their website 
:P and at the same time many people won't care about windows or mac or iOS 
etc games so could just skip that heading.

Hth,
-Michael.


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From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:44 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

Hello all,

Today or tomorrow I want to begin working on the Audyssey games
database, and I was wondering how you all think I should organize and
arrange the games and developers. There are many ways to do this so I
thought I would throw a few suggestions out here and gather your
input.

The first way I could organize the database is by developer. I could
have a list of developers such as BSC Software, GMA Games, PCs Games,
Blind Adrenaline, etc and below that heading all the games they have
produced. Of course, the problem with that method is if you are
looking for a certain type of game it is difficult to find or locate
without going through and each and every game on the site.

The second method is to organize games by type or genre. I could  have
various categories such as action, strategy, card games, puzzle games,
etc. I think this would be a more acceptable method for organizing the
games on the site as you could go directly to the section that was of
interest and skip those sections that weren't of any interest.

The third option is similar to the second accept instead of just being
divided by genre they could also be divided up by platform such as Mac
OS, Windows, Linux, and iOS. Under those headings would be subheadings
such as action, strategy, card, puzzle, whatever. Any thoughts here?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Mich
Hi I to would go with the third option since it helps know what games run on 
what os and what kinds of games they are etc. from Mich.
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Hi Thomas,
I personally would go for the third approach, as if you really want to 
know what a specific developer has made you can probably just go to their 
website :P and at the same time many people won't care about windows or 
mac or iOS etc games so could just skip that heading.

Hth,
-Michael.


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From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:44 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

Hello all,

Today or tomorrow I want to begin working on the Audyssey games
database, and I was wondering how you all think I should organize and
arrange the games and developers. There are many ways to do this so I
thought I would throw a few suggestions out here and gather your
input.

The first way I could organize the database is by developer. I could
have a list of developers such as BSC Software, GMA Games, PCs Games,
Blind Adrenaline, etc and below that heading all the games they have
produced. Of course, the problem with that method is if you are
looking for a certain type of game it is difficult to find or locate
without going through and each and every game on the site.

The second method is to organize games by type or genre. I could  have
various categories such as action, strategy, card games, puzzle games,
etc. I think this would be a more acceptable method for organizing the
games on the site as you could go directly to the section that was of
interest and skip those sections that weren't of any interest.

The third option is similar to the second accept instead of just being
divided by genre they could also be divided up by platform such as Mac
OS, Windows, Linux, and iOS. Under those headings would be subheadings
such as action, strategy, card, puzzle, whatever. Any thoughts here?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi James,

Agreed. What I am thinking here is creating pages for each individual
platform such as Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, etc and then on that page
have sections for action, card, puzzle, strategy, whatever so it is
easy to locate a particular type of game quickly, and see what if
anything is available for that platform and genre.

Cheers!


On 4/10/13, James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

   I think the 3rd would b the best out of the 3. Like u said the 1st u
 would have 2 go through all the games that u wouldn't care 4 just 2 find
 the
 ones u would play. The 2nd is not a bad idear, but the 3rd 1 will make it
 easyer 4 people 2 find what they wont. 4 exsampal I don't have a iphone so
 if I'm looking 4  a game and I can go by platform and then tipe that would
 take a lot of the guess work out of it 4 me. That is just my thoughts on
 that idear.

 Hth
 James


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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread James Bartlett
Yes that is what I was thinking. I think it would b more simpal 4 others 2
navagate like that.

James

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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

Hi James,

Agreed. What I am thinking here is creating pages for each individual
platform such as Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, etc and then on that page have
sections for action, card, puzzle, strategy, whatever so it is easy to
locate a particular type of game quickly, and see what if anything is
available for that platform and genre.

Cheers!


On 4/10/13, James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

   I think the 3rd would b the best out of the 3. Like u said the 1st u

 would have 2 go through all the games that u wouldn't care 4 just 2 
 find the ones u would play. The 2nd is not a bad idear, but the 3rd 1 
 will make it easyer 4 people 2 find what they wont. 4 exsampal I don't 
 have a iphone so if I'm looking 4  a game and I can go by platform and 
 then tipe that would take a lot of the guess work out of it 4 me. That 
 is just my thoughts on that idear.

 Hth
 James





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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Ron Kolesar

Tom, I like option three.
Hope this helps out.



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-Original Message- 
From: Thomas Ward

Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:44 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

Hello all,

Today or tomorrow I want to begin working on the Audyssey games
database, and I was wondering how you all think I should organize and
arrange the games and developers. There are many ways to do this so I
thought I would throw a few suggestions out here and gather your
input.

The first way I could organize the database is by developer. I could
have a list of developers such as BSC Software, GMA Games, PCs Games,
Blind Adrenaline, etc and below that heading all the games they have
produced. Of course, the problem with that method is if you are
looking for a certain type of game it is difficult to find or locate
without going through and each and every game on the site.

The second method is to organize games by type or genre. I could  have
various categories such as action, strategy, card games, puzzle games,
etc. I think this would be a more acceptable method for organizing the
games on the site as you could go directly to the section that was of
interest and skip those sections that weren't of any interest.

The third option is similar to the second accept instead of just being
divided by genre they could also be divided up by platform such as Mac
OS, Windows, Linux, and iOS. Under those headings would be subheadings
such as action, strategy, card, puzzle, whatever. Any thoughts here?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Charles Rivard
This would be the approach I would find most useful.  Games that would run 
on my system, that are the genre I am looking for, and the developer I 
prefer (if there is a preference), would be easily found.  Those that won't 
work on my system could easily be skipped.  Thanks.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database



Hi James,

Agreed. What I am thinking here is creating pages for each individual
platform such as Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, etc and then on that page
have sections for action, card, puzzle, strategy, whatever so it is
easy to locate a particular type of game quickly, and see what if
anything is available for that platform and genre.

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread David Mehler
Hello,

I like either options 2 or 3. Option 2 would be good for what I think
of as a general search like if I wanted to find all games in a
particular genre that would work. Option 3 I kind of think of it as
being more specific, like if I'm looking for specifically windows
games, or Linux games, or Android games, and then can take it by game
type.

I'm also in favor of a database-driven query approach, takes out the
hard coding and lets the end user search per their own preference.

Hth
Dave.


On 4/10/13, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 Tom, I like option three.
 Hope this helps out.



 Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states
 that a service dog beats a cane paws down any day of the week.
 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Ward
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:44 AM
 To: Gamers Discussion list
 Subject: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

 Hello all,

 Today or tomorrow I want to begin working on the Audyssey games
 database, and I was wondering how you all think I should organize and
 arrange the games and developers. There are many ways to do this so I
 thought I would throw a few suggestions out here and gather your
 input.

 The first way I could organize the database is by developer. I could
 have a list of developers such as BSC Software, GMA Games, PCs Games,
 Blind Adrenaline, etc and below that heading all the games they have
 produced. Of course, the problem with that method is if you are
 looking for a certain type of game it is difficult to find or locate
 without going through and each and every game on the site.

 The second method is to organize games by type or genre. I could  have
 various categories such as action, strategy, card games, puzzle games,
 etc. I think this would be a more acceptable method for organizing the
 games on the site as you could go directly to the section that was of
 interest and skip those sections that weren't of any interest.

 The third option is similar to the second accept instead of just being
 divided by genre they could also be divided up by platform such as Mac
 OS, Windows, Linux, and iOS. Under those headings would be subheadings
 such as action, strategy, card, puzzle, whatever. Any thoughts here?

 Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Jacob Kruger
In that case, I'd generally agree with other guys - group by genre, but, 
maybe also split up per platform/operating system, etc., so that if wasn't 
interested in/able to use an iPhone/windows game, wouldn't need to look 
through them, etc.?


Stay well

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database



Hi Jacob,

For the moment its just going to be laid out on a page or pages in a
well organized structural arrangement. I don't have much time right
now to design a fully operational database per say, but I do want to
get something functional up and running for now. The easiest way to do
that would be to layout the site and page structure and add to it as
I have time. I can always go back and change it later as needed.

Cheers!

On 4/10/13, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote:
Are you planning to store the data/content in actual database, or just 
lay

it out on pages in a structured arrangement?

Asking since, if in database, you could then let guys search, or request
different sort orders, categorisations, etc. etc. using data queries
generated by page controls, etc., easily enough?

As in wouldn't think it was necessarily necessary to sort of hard-code
layout options/arrangement/ordering/categorisation as such - if that 
makes

sense?

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Jacob Kruger
What you can also then do easily enough is on the operating system pages, 
split genres into headings of one level, and then each game under there 
could be under a heading of a lower level, since with various screen readers 
that would also help with quick navigation down page contents, etc.


Stay well

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database



Hi James,

Agreed. What I am thinking here is creating pages for each individual
platform such as Windows, Linux, Mac, iOS, etc and then on that page
have sections for action, card, puzzle, strategy, whatever so it is
easy to locate a particular type of game quickly, and see what if
anything is available for that platform and genre.

Cheers!


On 4/10/13, James Bartlett jab8...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi

I think the 3rd would b the best out of the 3. Like u said the 1st u
would have 2 go through all the games that u wouldn't care 4 just 2 find
the
ones u would play. The 2nd is not a bad idear, but the 3rd 1 will make it
easyer 4 people 2 find what they wont. 4 exsampal I don't have a iphone 
so
if I'm looking 4  a game and I can go by platform and then tipe that 
would

take a lot of the guess work out of it 4 me. That is just my thoughts on
that idear.

Hth
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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron and all,

I like that option myself. As it happens I just started putting
together the framework for option three since that seems to be where
everyone is heading with this line of questioning. There isn't
anything of substance there yet but you can go to
http://www.audyssey.org/games.php
to view what I'm currently doing with organizing the games. Right now
I have individual pages for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS, etc and
plan to then arrange games for that platform by genre such as arcade,
action, card, puzzle, whatever.

On 4/10/13, Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com wrote:
 Tom, I like option three.
 Hope this helps out.



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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dave,

Eventually, we might get there, but I really don't want to take the
time and effort to develop a database driven query right now. Unless
you are volunteering to write one for the site right now I'm going to
keep it simple stupid. Basically, just a few links to games and the
developers. Besides Audiogames.net has a more advanced system in place
for those people who want a full database etc for the moment. My
concern is just to get the framework of the site in place for now and
build on to it as I have time.

Cheers!

On 4/10/13, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I like either options 2 or 3. Option 2 would be good for what I think
 of as a general search like if I wanted to find all games in a
 particular genre that would work. Option 3 I kind of think of it as
 being more specific, like if I'm looking for specifically windows
 games, or Linux games, or Android games, and then can take it by game
 type.

 I'm also in favor of a database-driven query approach, takes out the
 hard coding and lets the end user search per their own preference.

 Hth
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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jacob,

Hmm..That works. Although, I was thinking of just using a list of the
various games of a particular type. For example, for FPS I could have
Teraformers, Shades of Doom, Monkey Business, and clicking on the link
for that game takes you to a page more about that game. Although, I
suppose if people like the idea of having subheadings for games that
works just as well.

On 4/10/13, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote:
 What you can also then do easily enough is on the operating system pages,
 split genres into headings of one level, and then each game under there
 could be under a heading of a lower level, since with various screen readers

 that would also help with quick navigation down page contents, etc.

 Stay well

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Jacob Kruger
OK, wasn't paying enough attention to realise you meant a page per game - my 
bad...smile


But, yes, also makes sense, since too much content on each page would 
overload screen readers as well...


Stay well

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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:35 PM
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Hi Jacob,

Hmm..That works. Although, I was thinking of just using a list of the
various games of a particular type. For example, for FPS I could have
Teraformers, Shades of Doom, Monkey Business, and clicking on the link
for that game takes you to a page more about that game. Although, I
suppose if people like the idea of having subheadings for games that
works just as well.

On 4/10/13, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote:

What you can also then do easily enough is on the operating system pages,
split genres into headings of one level, and then each game under there
could be under a heading of a lower level, since with various screen 
readers


that would also help with quick navigation down page contents, etc.

Stay well

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jacob,

Yes, exactly. The one thing I want to do here is keep it simple
stupid. I don't want to give the end user too much content per page
when I can break it up into smaller chunks or modules per say.
I haven't decided on the actual genres but I suspect it will work like
this. You will go to the main games page, select Windows, find action
games, and click on Shades of Doom which brings up a page for that
particular game. That page will have the developer's name, developers
site, cost of the game, and other details about the game. To go bak to
the list of Windows games just hit the back button on your web
browser. Simple and sweet.

Cheers!

On 4/10/13, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote:
 OK, wasn't paying enough attention to realise you meant a page per game - my

 bad...smile

 But, yes, also makes sense, since too much content on each page would
 overload screen readers as well...

 Stay well

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread James Bartlett
That sounds good 2 me grin.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

Hi Jacob,

Yes, exactly. The one thing I want to do here is keep it simple stupid. I
don't want to give the end user too much content per page when I can break
it up into smaller chunks or modules per say.
I haven't decided on the actual genres but I suspect it will work like this.
You will go to the main games page, select Windows, find action games, and
click on Shades of Doom which brings up a page for that particular game.
That page will have the developer's name, developers site, cost of the game,
and other details about the game. To go bak to the list of Windows games
just hit the back button on your web browser. Simple and sweet.

Cheers!

On 4/10/13, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote:
 OK, wasn't paying enough attention to realise you meant a page per 
 game - my

 bad...smile

 But, yes, also makes sense, since too much content on each page would 
 overload screen readers as well...

 Stay well

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Thomas,
In the games platform list, where would you put on-line games like Sryth?
How about hand held games like Bop-It?
Phil

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing teh Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread shaun everiss

hmmm third sounds good.
however I wander if all you need to do is have a database of all the 
devs all the games all gonres platforms, etc

with some sort of search filter.
every dev game type, platform etc should have its own page so the 
thing is dynamically searchable.

ofcause thats quite complex and its just a thought.
you could just list them on the page but hmmm.
audiogames.net has a massive database but I have never searched it.

At 01:44 AM 4/11/2013, you wrote:

Hello all,

Today or tomorrow I want to begin working on the Audyssey games
database, and I was wondering how you all think I should organize and
arrange the games and developers. There are many ways to do this so I
thought I would throw a few suggestions out here and gather your
input.

The first way I could organize the database is by developer. I could
have a list of developers such as BSC Software, GMA Games, PCs Games,
Blind Adrenaline, etc and below that heading all the games they have
produced. Of course, the problem with that method is if you are
looking for a certain type of game it is difficult to find or locate
without going through and each and every game on the site.

The second method is to organize games by type or genre. I could  have
various categories such as action, strategy, card games, puzzle games,
etc. I think this would be a more acceptable method for organizing the
games on the site as you could go directly to the section that was of
interest and skip those sections that weren't of any interest.

The third option is similar to the second accept instead of just being
divided by genre they could also be divided up by platform such as Mac
OS, Windows, Linux, and iOS. Under those headings would be subheadings
such as action, strategy, card, puzzle, whatever. Any thoughts here?

Cheers!

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Re: [Audyssey] Organizing the Audyssey Database

2013-04-10 Thread shaun everiss
tom why don't you use something like open cms or simular database 
management thing I am not sure what you would have to do but ideally 
you would want something where users could either add change or if 
you wanted to be secure about it submit to the database for review.


At 02:41 AM 4/11/2013, you wrote:

Hi Jacob,

For the moment its just going to be laid out on a page or pages in a
well organized structural arrangement. I don't have much time right
now to design a fully operational database per say, but I do want to
get something functional up and running for now. The easiest way to do
that would be to layout the site and page structure and add to it as
I have time. I can always go back and change it later as needed.

Cheers!

On 4/10/13, Jacob Kruger ja...@blindza.co.za wrote:
 Are you planning to store the data/content in actual database, or just lay
 it out on pages in a structured arrangement?

 Asking since, if in database, you could then let guys search, or request
 different sort orders, categorisations, etc. etc. using data queries
 generated by page controls, etc., easily enough?

 As in wouldn't think it was necessarily necessary to sort of hard-code
 layout options/arrangement/ordering/categorisation as such - if that makes
 sense?

 Stay well

 Jacob Kruger
 Blind Biker
 Skype: BlindZA
 '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'

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