Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
Hi Ken, Quote I don't understand why the blind haven't caught on yet--holdouts from using the mouse who still think the keyboard is all that, I guess. End quote It is probably explainable by human nature. We all have a tendancy to stick with the things we know, that are familiar to us, rather than venturing out looking for new things we might not understand or too afraid to try on our own. Sometimes it is a matter of being taught to do things a certain way, raised to think in a certain way, live a certain way, or whatever. Point is we build up habits over our lifetime that are hhard to break. Often times we continue avoiding something even if it is illogical to do so just because of some preconception we got from somewhere along the way. When it comes to blind gamers and the mouse it is pretty obvious where the hesitation comes from. When a blind user starts using a computer he/she is told that they can not use the mouse, it is too difficult to use without sight, whatever. For this reason I know of some blind users that took the mouse off their computer and stashed it in a drawer somewhere to be forgotten. It is to them a rather pointless and useless device. Well, developers like Che come along, out of the wild blue yonder, saying look at this cool game. It supports the mouse. I well remember the initial reaction to that news that boiled down to, I am blind and I can't use the mouse. They had never been taught that the way the mouse works in games is completely different from the way it works in Word, Excel, Windows Media Player, whatever. They had years of the I can't use the mouse thinking to relearn and update to it can be used in games. The same question could be asked why aren't more blind computer users switching to Mac or Linux where the screen reader is included with the OS? Where the OS can be installed with speech? Simple, they are use to Windows, set in their ways, and are probably comfortable with the current status of things. The why try something else if I like what I have mentality. It is similar to that why fix it if it ain't broke mentality. Some people can't roll with the change. To guys like you and I who try something new that kind of thinking seams too narrow, too sheltered, too set in their ways. As they say different strokes for different folks, and we can't force the mouse, Linux, or any other new concept on people. They have to want that something else for themselves before they take that first step into a larger world. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
I don't see anything wrong with a keyboard, as a lot of games for sited people still use them. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Ken kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? I guess that to me, there are so many keyboard-based games that one more would be--well, just one more in a long line of them. What I would do if I were to write the game is, I'd first develop for the wii, the the mouse and joysticks, then the keyboard--and if people aren't sure, just put up a trailor of the game. If that's good, people will want the game. It was the trailor got me wanting Grizly Gulch so much, not a demo. Just my two cents. Ken - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi Scott, That was my thoughts exactly. It is not so much the cost of the controller as how useful it would be outside of this one single game. Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Che, Problem you might have here man is that, unless I've missed something which is very possible, your online fightathon would be the only accessible game using this controller. That much money for a controller isn't a big deal, but that much money for a controller to play one game only plus the cost of the game starts to become one maybe. Another thing that's worth pointing out is that a lot of people find themselves with some kind of internet hookup most places they visit now, but wouldn't be taking their Wii controller around with them 24/7, so you'd still be needing to maintain playability from the keyboard/other controllers. Don't get me wrong dude I love the idea, but as a formerly beatemup geek/guru, I'm more drawn to the game idea than the fact that it's using a Wii controller. I've only ever played a few games online (quake, mk3 over a lan, sound rts etc) and already for me it's the best part of gaming. Can't wait to see more access titles developing where it's possible. Scott --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
It's not that there is any inherant evil in a keyboard or that anything is wrong with one or the usage of one in games. But using a keyboard exclusively would be like Nasa digging out the old rockets that first took Neil Armstrong to the moon. Would it work? Sure--after all, it worked before, so it would work again--but the computer alone, which was huge, was weak and one like it could fit in your pocket today. Keyboarding in games was fine then, and I'm not saying it's bad to use them--only just don't limit yourself to them--there is so much more out there! - Original Message - From: Constantine tcwoo...@shaw.ca To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? I don't see anything wrong with a keyboard, as a lot of games for sited people still use them. contact details: email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca and others msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: Ken kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? I guess that to me, there are so many keyboard-based games that one more would be--well, just one more in a long line of them. What I would do if I were to write the game is, I'd first develop for the wii, the the mouse and joysticks, then the keyboard--and if people aren't sure, just put up a trailor of the game. If that's good, people will want the game. It was the trailor got me wanting Grizly Gulch so much, not a demo. Just my two cents. Ken - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi Scott, That was my thoughts exactly. It is not so much the cost of the controller as how useful it would be outside of this one single game. Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Che, Problem you might have here man is that, unless I've missed something which is very possible, your online fightathon would be the only accessible game using this controller. That much money for a controller isn't a big deal, but that much money for a controller to play one game only plus the cost of the game starts to become one maybe. Another thing that's worth pointing out is that a lot of people find themselves with some kind of internet hookup most places they visit now, but wouldn't be taking their Wii controller around with them 24/7, so you'd still be needing to maintain playability from the keyboard/other controllers. Don't get me wrong dude I love the idea, but as a formerly beatemup geek/guru, I'm more drawn to the game idea than the fact that it's using a Wii controller. I've only ever played a few games online (quake, mk3 over a lan, sound rts etc) and already for me it's the best part of gaming. Can't wait to see more access titles developing where it's possible. Scott --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
I understand that tendancy--but most times when sighted folks told me I couldn't do something I spent hours, days, weeks or even months to learn how just to prove them wrong, and that has served to be one of the most instrumental and driving forces of my life. I remember my friend telling me I couldn't possibly use the music constructor set for the old C64--and I worked on it for two weeks, taking hardly a wink, and at the end of that time, having realized that I would never remember even a tenth of where things were located or how to work the program, I wrote a manual for it. I was eleven. The point isn't for me to gloat--that would be more than pointless. The point is--well, I just wish I could impart that to the blind community as a whole. I know a man named Ken Wild who lives here in Norwalk. He is totally blind, and to me he seems insane--he goes everywhere without a guide dog, without a cane. I don't know how he does it without falling, but he does. Furthermore, he is an engineer at a radio station, and even climbs the antenna towers and fixes everything. I wish I could have known him when I was a child. I would have gotten into that business myself, but that time--that one regretable time in my life, the sighted folks misled and defeated me. I actually believed that there was no way a blind man could get into radio. So keep your chins up yall, and prove those critics wrong! Okay, I know what some are thinking now--what, is he saying I could use the mouse in Word? No, of course not, (prove me wrong if you think you can,) but know your limits, test them often! (Come to think of it, if you use that four blind mice program you probably could use the mouse in Word.) See, it pays to test everything! SMILE! Ken - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi Ken, Quote I don't understand why the blind haven't caught on yet--holdouts from using the mouse who still think the keyboard is all that, I guess. End quote It is probably explainable by human nature. We all have a tendancy to stick with the things we know, that are familiar to us, rather than venturing out looking for new things we might not understand or too afraid to try on our own. Sometimes it is a matter of being taught to do things a certain way, raised to think in a certain way, live a certain way, or whatever. Point is we build up habits over our lifetime that are hhard to break. Often times we continue avoiding something even if it is illogical to do so just because of some preconception we got from somewhere along the way. When it comes to blind gamers and the mouse it is pretty obvious where the hesitation comes from. When a blind user starts using a computer he/she is told that they can not use the mouse, it is too difficult to use without sight, whatever. For this reason I know of some blind users that took the mouse off their computer and stashed it in a drawer somewhere to be forgotten. It is to them a rather pointless and useless device. Well, developers like Che come along, out of the wild blue yonder, saying look at this cool game. It supports the mouse. I well remember the initial reaction to that news that boiled down to, I am blind and I can't use the mouse. They had never been taught that the way the mouse works in games is completely different from the way it works in Word, Excel, Windows Media Player, whatever. They had years of the I can't use the mouse thinking to relearn and update to it can be used in games. The same question could be asked why aren't more blind computer users switching to Mac or Linux where the screen reader is included with the OS? Where the OS can be installed with speech? Simple, they are use to Windows, set in their ways, and are probably comfortable with the current status of things. The why try something else if I like what I have mentality. It is similar to that why fix it if it ain't broke mentality. Some people can't roll with the change. To guys like you and I who try something new that kind of thinking seams too narrow, too sheltered, too set in their ways. As they say different strokes for different folks, and we can't force the mouse, Linux, or any other new concept on people. They have to want that something else for themselves before they take that first step into a larger world. Smile. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
This concept really caught my attention but I just don't know as of yet, as my resources are still very limited and I have to spend them carefully and wisely. *smiles* Hey, I wouldn't call off-line play so much more fun at all. Just a poor replacement for times when you are bored and wanna play but have no internet connection available at the time. :-) Lukas - Original Message - From: Matheus an...@bol.com.br To: gamers@audyssey.org Cc: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? well, i really can't pay for it man. especialy to play only this game... it's tow much. unless you are going to make the game in a version for keyboard, and a version to this controller. also, if you make a offline version against the computer it will be so much more fun. -Mensagem original- De: tim kilgore tim8...@sbcglobal.net Para: Che c...@blindadrenaline.com,Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Data: Quarta, 28 de Janeiro de 2009 17:38 Assunto: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? I might be willing. Tim - Original Message - From: Che c...@blindadrenaline.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
Hi Che, As far as the Weii controller goes I guess my willingness to pay would depend on several things. The $50 is not a big problem as it is with in my budget. However, weather or not I actually spend it for a Wii controller would depend on a few factors like how much would i actually use it, is it compatible with all my other accessible games, and weather or not I liked the game you were creating. If I purchased it and it only worked with your game then I'd sayit wouldn't be a good investment. If I purchased it and could use it with Troopenum, Shades of Doom, etc then it might be worth the $50 to me. As far as a concept goes I like the idea. One thing I really like about your game ideas is you think out of the box. I do think that if this Wii controller takes off it does have a potential to add something new to the accessible gaming comunity. You got gamers interested in mouse support, and with the Wii controller it would put you at the front of new ideas and new concepts. So I am interested to see how this all works out in the end weather or not I choose to get involved in your head to head fighting game. Che wrote: Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
Hi Scott, That was my thoughts exactly. It is not so much the cost of the controller as how useful it would be outside of this one single game. Scott Chesworth wrote: Hey Che, Problem you might have here man is that, unless I've missed something which is very possible, your online fightathon would be the only accessible game using this controller. That much money for a controller isn't a big deal, but that much money for a controller to play one game only plus the cost of the game starts to become one maybe. Another thing that's worth pointing out is that a lot of people find themselves with some kind of internet hookup most places they visit now, but wouldn't be taking their Wii controller around with them 24/7, so you'd still be needing to maintain playability from the keyboard/other controllers. Don't get me wrong dude I love the idea, but as a formerly beatemup geek/guru, I'm more drawn to the game idea than the fact that it's using a Wii controller. I've only ever played a few games online (quake, mk3 over a lan, sound rts etc) and already for me it's the best part of gaming. Can't wait to see more access titles developing where it's possible. Scott --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, Actually, a Wii controller shouldn't take up any space on your desk. It is not a joystick like you are thinking. You just hold them in your hand and move around to get it to punch, run, walk, whatever. I've demoed them in the stores and they are cool. The Wii controllers are wireless so you don't have to be near your PC to issue commands to the game. Grin. shaun everiss wrote: I'd be into this. I don't own a we though so we would have to be able to use the mouse or just the keyboard. I have a good old style logitec force feadback stick but I hve never set up this of late because of no space on the desk, my desk is full of laptop, 2 storage drives and external burners that there is actually no real room for a stick right now. I'd be interested in an online/offline fighting game, i may even get sfx for this and help test and maybe design some of this although you can program it. I can even do voiceovers for the game if you want, for free, getting the game is enough I don't want cash for these things. I do however enjoy the challange of doing big projects. If you give me lists of what you want I can geet things to you within a day or less, if its harder to find sertainly within a month. but probably less than that. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
Count me in. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Che Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hey Che, Problem you might have here man is that, unless I've missed something which is very possible, your online fightathon would be the only accessible game using this controller. That much money for a controller isn't a big deal, but that much money for a controller to play one game only plus the cost of the game starts to become one maybe. Another thing that's worth pointing out is that a lot of people find themselves with some kind of internet hookup most places they visit now, but wouldn't be taking their Wii controller around with them 24/7, so you'd still be needing to maintain playability from the keyboard/other controllers. Don't get me wrong dude I love the idea, but as a formerly beatemup geek/guru, I'm more drawn to the game idea than the fact that it's using a Wii controller. I've only ever played a few games online (quake, mk3 over a lan, sound rts etc) and already for me it's the best part of gaming. Can't wait to see more access titles developing where it's possible. Scott On 1/29/09, Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com wrote: Count me in. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Che Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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defenetly! keep! up! the! great! work man! contact info: Msn: ckad...@gmail.com skype: corykad111 aim: corykadlik111 emails: ckadl...@verizon.net, ckad...@gmail.com Have an awesome day, Cory - Original Message - From: Che c...@blindadrenaline.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
Che: I have three wii controller's and I am definitely in on this one! -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Strunk Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:42 PM To: 'Che'; 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Count me in. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Che Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I might be willing. Tim - Original Message - From: Che c...@blindadrenaline.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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You know, I'd say have that as an option but have the keyboard as a standard for those who aren't willing to pay for it. That way it can be suited to each person's preferences and resources. - Original Message - From: tim kilgore tim8...@sbcglobal.net To: Che c...@blindadrenaline.com; Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? I might be willing. Tim - Original Message - From: Che c...@blindadrenaline.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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There comes a point, particularly when most blind people are unemployed, that things like that just aren't worth it. I would love to check out that In The Pit game which needs an X-box 360 controller but it just makes no sense to spend thirty bucks to be able to play one free game. The same goes for spending all the money on the Wiimote and balance board. That would essentially strip away over half my spending money for the month and I'm not even counting whatever you'd then reasonably charge for the game itself. I have things relatively easy here paying my parents room and board. I shudder to think how limited the audience for a game which demanded people purchase those accessories would be. If you can put the functionality for using those things in a game without requiring people to have them, you'd doubtless find a small number of people willing to fork over the money. A fighting game wouldn't overly excite me but there's been quite a lot of interest in that sort of thing. I would predict that you'd do quite well sales wise with something along those lines. Through no fault of yours, I lost interest in Rail Racer some time ago. Racing just isn't my cup of tea. Arcade, strategy or rpg games would suit me far better. However, before my interest faded, I took note of the utter care and craftsmanship you put into that game. I have the utmost respect for your abilities and hope for terrific stuff from you in the future. You seem to be open to a whole lot of different game styles and I have no doubt you'll come up with something which turns my crank eventually. Thankfully, I think interest in accessible games is once again on the rise. With moves like the one made by Serotek at the Atia conference, that can only draw more blind people into digital life. The thought of paying half as much as I did for Jaws to get a screen-reader which I'd then never have to pay to keep updated is mighty appealing. Michael Feir Author of Personal Power: How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People 2006-2008 www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power A Life of Word and Sound 2003-2007 http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Che c...@blindadrenaline.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I just may pay it, especially if it were the wireless variety. - Original Message - From: Che c...@blindadrenaline.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. Casey Mathews Web Friendly Help | Demystifying Tech www.webfriendlyhelp.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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If the games were created to use your description of controllers, I would spend the money as long as said games were pretty involved. - Original Message - From: Che c...@blindadrenaline.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
well I am not going out of my way to get an xbox or wie controler, I already have a stick and I never use it, I prefur keyboard control and mouse control and even then I still like keyboard. At 11:58 a.m. 30/01/2009, you wrote: Hey Che, Problem you might have here man is that, unless I've missed something which is very possible, your online fightathon would be the only accessible game using this controller. That much money for a controller isn't a big deal, but that much money for a controller to play one game only plus the cost of the game starts to become one maybe. Another thing that's worth pointing out is that a lot of people find themselves with some kind of internet hookup most places they visit now, but wouldn't be taking their Wii controller around with them 24/7, so you'd still be needing to maintain playability from the keyboard/other controllers. Don't get me wrong dude I love the idea, but as a formerly beatemup geek/guru, I'm more drawn to the game idea than the fact that it's using a Wii controller. I've only ever played a few games online (quake, mk3 over a lan, sound rts etc) and already for me it's the best part of gaming. Can't wait to see more access titles developing where it's possible. Scott On 1/29/09, Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com wrote: Count me in. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Che Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
Hi Che, Well I paid $100 for a steering wheel joystick. Right now I am very happy that I did. Mach 1 tts is really fun to drive with the variable input of the steering wheel, gas peddle and brake peddle. Plus all of the handy buttons for speaking information. I am just really into car racing and driving. Ok though, I would want to know that a game is fully accessible and that it is a game that I would really be into before I spent $50 for a controller just for it. BFN Jim When all else fails, spend money! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
i to would be in to this. I have always liked fighting games and have wanted to see one for the blind game comunidey for a wile now. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
Well, glad you are being open minded about it at least. later che - Original Message - From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? well I am not going out of my way to get an xbox or wie controler, I already have a stick and I never use it, I prefur keyboard control and mouse control and even then I still like keyboard. At 11:58 a.m. 30/01/2009, you wrote: Hey Che, Problem you might have here man is that, unless I've missed something which is very possible, your online fightathon would be the only accessible game using this controller. That much money for a controller isn't a big deal, but that much money for a controller to play one game only plus the cost of the game starts to become one maybe. Another thing that's worth pointing out is that a lot of people find themselves with some kind of internet hookup most places they visit now, but wouldn't be taking their Wii controller around with them 24/7, so you'd still be needing to maintain playability from the keyboard/other controllers. Don't get me wrong dude I love the idea, but as a formerly beatemup geek/guru, I'm more drawn to the game idea than the fact that it's using a Wii controller. I've only ever played a few games online (quake, mk3 over a lan, sound rts etc) and already for me it's the best part of gaming. Can't wait to see more access titles developing where it's possible. Scott On 1/29/09, Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com wrote: Count me in. Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Che Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:38 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi all, I am ramping up plans for an online head to head fighting game. At first it will mostly be a test bed for latency issues, so I can see what the limitations are for head to head combat over the internet. One idea I am picking at is the inclusion of The nintendo Wii controllers for the game. It is possible to use the Wii controllers via a blue tooth hookup with a PC. Having used these controlers on my Wii, I can tell you they are amazing. In the boxing game, the faster you punch with the controller, the harder your character punches. In Mortal Combat, you draw a pattern in the air with your controller to execute certain moves. All of this functionality is available with the PC port of the controller software. My question is, how much would the average blind gamer be into this? I think the draw to a head to head fighting game would be good, assuming lag issues could be worked out, but would the average gamer be willing to drop the $50 or so necessary to buy a controller and blue-tooth hook up? The possibilities for useing the Wii controllers is immense for accessible gaming, most especially for action titles. The balance board can be used as well, another $80 or so. Think of the ability to dodge your opponent simply by leaning, or run away from a monster by, well, running. Anyhow, it is an exciting concept, what do you guys think? Later, che --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All
Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller?
Like I said. If you made support for both a keyboard and wii controller possible, I think it would have more appeal. I have a wii already, but I think for the people who don't have it wouldn't be too sure and might not be able to afford it regardless. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net To: Che Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Would you pay $50 for a killer controller? Hi Che, Well I paid $100 for a steering wheel joystick. Right now I am very happy that I did. Mach 1 tts is really fun to drive with the variable input of the steering wheel, gas peddle and brake peddle. Plus all of the handy buttons for speaking information. I am just really into car racing and driving. Ok though, I would want to know that a game is fully accessible and that it is a game that I would really be into before I spent $50 for a controller just for it. BFN Jim When all else fails, spend money! j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
