Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
I am also instrested in that also the ulsas game. Yes a board game of those could exist but never found one, used to have a board made up. I think it uses a standard card pack though it could have its own deck. You can make up a board with foil card board and felt as long as you get the squares right. It uses dice, braille dice will still do it. I think it uses counters not sure if they are plane or not, or even if they need to be proper counters, ie could you use monopoly counters since each player needed 1 I think. Gone are the days where I and my family had any time to play any of these. Both on computer. Hmm jim? Will you make those please? Or will someone do that in bgt. Thats a thought, there is the competition going I think. I am to busy fixing pcs and doing other research jobs to actually program though would have loved to enter. I have not checked mail in 1.5 weeks and in fact will be trying to clear the 1000 pluss messages tonight if I can. At 02:28 p.m. 11/01/2012 -0600, you wrote: Hi all, Are you guys familiar with the board game Risk? It's my favorite game, aside from monopoly. I can't find an accessible version of the game anywhere and was wondering if somebody would help me try to find one. I'm interested in either finding an online version, one for a windows operating system, or a version that works on the iPhone or iPad running IOS5. If anybody knows of a version available, free or paid, or knows of some one who would be interested/or is interested in developing an accessible version of that game I would love any info you could give me. Thanks all, Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Hi, Monopolyhas no counters.I'mnot what you're talkigna bout by proper counters. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:04 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk I am also instrested in that also the ulsas game. Yes a board game of those could exist but never found one, used to have a board made up. I think it uses a standard card pack though it could have its own deck. You can make up a board with foil card board and felt as long as you get the squares right. It uses dice, braille dice will still do it. I think it uses counters not sure if they are plane or not, or even if they need to be proper counters, ie could you use monopoly counters since each player needed 1 I think. Gone are the days where I and my family had any time to play any of these. Both on computer. Hmm jim? Will you make those please? Or will someone do that in bgt. Thats a thought, there is the competition going I think. I am to busy fixing pcs and doing other research jobs to actually program though would have loved to enter. I have not checked mail in 1.5 weeks and in fact will be trying to clear the 1000 pluss messages tonight if I can. At 02:28 p.m. 11/01/2012 -0600, you wrote: Hi all, Are you guys familiar with the board game Risk? It's my favorite game, aside from monopoly. I can't find an accessible version of the game anywhere and was wondering if somebody would help me try to find one. I'm interested in either finding an online version, one for a windows operating system, or a version that works on the iPhone or iPad running IOS5. If anybody knows of a version available, free or paid, or knows of some one who would be interested/or is interested in developing an accessible version of that game I would love any info you could give me. Thanks all, Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4149 - Release Date: 01/17/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Hi, I'm glad you wer creative with the translation. In English that would usually translate to the Quentin C's Living Room, oir something of that sort. :) Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of QuentinC Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 1:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk Just for your information, the playroom website is no more agn.quentinc.net but http://qcsalon.net/ QC is for QuentinC and salon is the french name of the playroom. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4143 - Release Date: 01/14/12 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
But who has the rights to board games? Ok, one developer might have created a PC or console version of Monopoly for example, but everyone can play this game without a computer and everyone can buy such a game around the world. Same should go for other dice and board games and also for card games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Hi, Some years ago Hasbro purchased Parker Brothers and Milton Bradly. As a result most of the board games out there are now owned and copyrighted by Hasbro Inc. Just because you can go out and purchase a standard board or card version of Monopoly, Risk, Life, etc doesn't mean creating a PC version is completely legal. Hasbro, as the copyright holder, is legally entitled to royalty fees for using that particular game. Fortunately, they haven't gone after Spoonbill Software, Kitchens Inc, or RS Games, but from a legal standpoint they are well in their rights to sue because its an illegal use of an intellectual copyright, and it may effect the sales of their official product. For example, when you go to the store be it Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Toys R Us, whatever and buy Monopoly that money goes back to Hasbro with a certain amount going to the store for selling it. Now, if you create a Monopoly game for the PC and weather you sell it or not Hasbro isn't making any money off your creation. If a thousand people play your PC Monopoly game Hasbro considers it a thousand possible sales they've lost because of your free Monopoly game. If you consider the average Monopoly board game costs $25.00 USD that's $25,000 they've lost in sales, and they'll expect you to pay them the $25,000 to make up the lost sales. That is why its so dangerous to create games based on a copyright. In many cases Hasbro or another copyright holder might overlook it, ignore it, and not bother with a small time independent game developer. However, if they should come after a game developer he or she could be up to there eyes in hot water in a hurry. The best way to avoid this is to create a game that is similar, but avoid any trademarks that might get them into trouble. For example, I've had an idea for a Monopoly game called Space Colony. You would travel the universe buying up planets, building settlements, and become an intergalactic businessman or woman. The rules could be similar to Monopoly without using any copyrights or trademarks that could bring the wrath of Hasbro down on a developers head. Another idea is take Risk and call it Kingdoms. You could create an entire fantasy board with 42 possible territories and would play using knights, horseman, and chariots. The rule set could be similar to Risk but by creating custom peaces, custom territories, and even custom mission cards you'd completely avoid copyright infringement and create a game that is unique at the same time. Cheers! On 1/14/12, Michael Gauler michael.gau...@gmx.de wrote: But who has the rights to board games? Ok, one developer might have created a PC or console version of Monopoly for example, but everyone can play this game without a computer and everyone can buy such a game around the world. Same should go for other dice and board games and also for card games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
hm, maybe this is a dumb thought or question, but I wonder if a blind game developer could ever contact the company and get permission to make a braille version or risk, or an accessible online version. Think about it, there's braille monopoly out there that you have to pay for. Also, the company wouldn't be losing alot by giving somebody permission to develop accessible risk for us, either via braille or on the computer. We (us blind gamers) are not a relatively large community compared to the population as a whole, therefore as a whole compared to the rest of the world, the demand for an accessible risk isn't great. I know it's a big deal for us, but sighted people could care less. So I wonder if the company that sells risk would ever allow a blind game developer to create a version of accessible risk. I personally would even be willing to pay the standard selling price, $30 or whatever it is for a normal risk board, if I could have an accessible version of my favorite game. Just like I'd be willing to pay for an accessible version of monopoly, which thanks to Jim Kitchens and rs games we have for free. Anyway, just a thought, how plosible do I even sound? I don't know much about copyright laws or permission or anything, but is this totally out of the realm of possibilities guys? Laurel and Stockard On 1/14/12, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Some years ago Hasbro purchased Parker Brothers and Milton Bradly. As a result most of the board games out there are now owned and copyrighted by Hasbro Inc. Just because you can go out and purchase a standard board or card version of Monopoly, Risk, Life, etc doesn't mean creating a PC version is completely legal. Hasbro, as the copyright holder, is legally entitled to royalty fees for using that particular game. Fortunately, they haven't gone after Spoonbill Software, Kitchens Inc, or RS Games, but from a legal standpoint they are well in their rights to sue because its an illegal use of an intellectual copyright, and it may effect the sales of their official product. For example, when you go to the store be it Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Toys R Us, whatever and buy Monopoly that money goes back to Hasbro with a certain amount going to the store for selling it. Now, if you create a Monopoly game for the PC and weather you sell it or not Hasbro isn't making any money off your creation. If a thousand people play your PC Monopoly game Hasbro considers it a thousand possible sales they've lost because of your free Monopoly game. If you consider the average Monopoly board game costs $25.00 USD that's $25,000 they've lost in sales, and they'll expect you to pay them the $25,000 to make up the lost sales. That is why its so dangerous to create games based on a copyright. In many cases Hasbro or another copyright holder might overlook it, ignore it, and not bother with a small time independent game developer. However, if they should come after a game developer he or she could be up to there eyes in hot water in a hurry. The best way to avoid this is to create a game that is similar, but avoid any trademarks that might get them into trouble. For example, I've had an idea for a Monopoly game called Space Colony. You would travel the universe buying up planets, building settlements, and become an intergalactic businessman or woman. The rules could be similar to Monopoly without using any copyrights or trademarks that could bring the wrath of Hasbro down on a developers head. Another idea is take Risk and call it Kingdoms. You could create an entire fantasy board with 42 possible territories and would play using knights, horseman, and chariots. The rule set could be similar to Risk but by creating custom peaces, custom territories, and even custom mission cards you'd completely avoid copyright infringement and create a game that is unique at the same time. Cheers! On 1/14/12, Michael Gauler michael.gau...@gmx.de wrote: But who has the rights to board games? Ok, one developer might have created a PC or console version of Monopoly for example, but everyone can play this game without a computer and everyone can buy such a game around the world. Same should go for other dice and board games and also for card games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Hi,I believe you are missing a Monoopoly version...the Quentin C's Playroom. It would definitely be worth checking out. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Laurel Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:30 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk hm, maybe this is a dumb thought or question, but I wonder if a blind game developer could ever contact the company and get permission to make a braille version or risk, or an accessible online version. Think about it, there's braille monopoly out there that you have to pay for. Also, the company wouldn't be losing alot by giving somebody permission to develop accessible risk for us, either via braille or on the computer. We (us blind gamers) are not a relatively large community compared to the population as a whole, therefore as a whole compared to the rest of the world, the demand for an accessible risk isn't great. I know it's a big deal for us, but sighted people could care less. So I wonder if the company that sells risk would ever allow a blind game developer to create a version of accessible risk. I personally would even be willing to pay the standard selling price, $30 or whatever it is for a normal risk board, if I could have an accessible version of my favorite game. Just like I'd be willing to pay for an accessible version of monopoly, which thanks to Jim Kitchens and rs games we have for free. Anyway, just a thought, how plosible do I even sound? I don't know much about copyright laws or permission or anything, but is this totally out of the realm of possibilities guys? Laurel and Stockard On 1/14/12, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Some years ago Hasbro purchased Parker Brothers and Milton Bradly. As a result most of the board games out there are now owned and copyrighted by Hasbro Inc. Just because you can go out and purchase a standard board or card version of Monopoly, Risk, Life, etc doesn't mean creating a PC version is completely legal. Hasbro, as the copyright holder, is legally entitled to royalty fees for using that particular game. Fortunately, they haven't gone after Spoonbill Software, Kitchens Inc, or RS Games, but from a legal standpoint they are well in their rights to sue because its an illegal use of an intellectual copyright, and it may effect the sales of their official product. For example, when you go to the store be it Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Toys R Us, whatever and buy Monopoly that money goes back to Hasbro with a certain amount going to the store for selling it. Now, if you create a Monopoly game for the PC and weather you sell it or not Hasbro isn't making any money off your creation. If a thousand people play your PC Monopoly game Hasbro considers it a thousand possible sales they've lost because of your free Monopoly game. If you consider the average Monopoly board game costs $25.00 USD that's $25,000 they've lost in sales, and they'll expect you to pay them the $25,000 to make up the lost sales. That is why its so dangerous to create games based on a copyright. In many cases Hasbro or another copyright holder might overlook it, ignore it, and not bother with a small time independent game developer. However, if they should come after a game developer he or she could be up to there eyes in hot water in a hurry. The best way to avoid this is to create a game that is similar, but avoid any trademarks that might get them into trouble. For example, I've had an idea for a Monopoly game called Space Colony. You would travel the universe buying up planets, building settlements, and become an intergalactic businessman or woman. The rules could be similar to Monopoly without using any copyrights or trademarks that could bring the wrath of Hasbro down on a developers head. Another idea is take Risk and call it Kingdoms. You could create an entire fantasy board with 42 possible territories and would play using knights, horseman, and chariots. The rule set could be similar to Risk but by creating custom peaces, custom territories, and even custom mission cards you'd completely avoid copyright infringement and create a game that is unique at the same time. Cheers! On 1/14/12, Michael Gauler michael.gau...@gmx.de wrote: But who has the rights to board games? Ok, one developer might have created a PC or console version of Monopoly for example, but everyone can play this game without a computer and everyone can buy such a game around the world. Same should go for other dice and board games and also for card games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Oh I didn't even realize they had a version! I'll check it out for sure. Do you know their website? On 1/14/12, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi,I believe you are missing a Monoopoly version...the Quentin C's Playroom. It would definitely be worth checking out. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Laurel Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:30 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk hm, maybe this is a dumb thought or question, but I wonder if a blind game developer could ever contact the company and get permission to make a braille version or risk, or an accessible online version. Think about it, there's braille monopoly out there that you have to pay for. Also, the company wouldn't be losing alot by giving somebody permission to develop accessible risk for us, either via braille or on the computer. We (us blind gamers) are not a relatively large community compared to the population as a whole, therefore as a whole compared to the rest of the world, the demand for an accessible risk isn't great. I know it's a big deal for us, but sighted people could care less. So I wonder if the company that sells risk would ever allow a blind game developer to create a version of accessible risk. I personally would even be willing to pay the standard selling price, $30 or whatever it is for a normal risk board, if I could have an accessible version of my favorite game. Just like I'd be willing to pay for an accessible version of monopoly, which thanks to Jim Kitchens and rs games we have for free. Anyway, just a thought, how plosible do I even sound? I don't know much about copyright laws or permission or anything, but is this totally out of the realm of possibilities guys? Laurel and Stockard On 1/14/12, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Some years ago Hasbro purchased Parker Brothers and Milton Bradly. As a result most of the board games out there are now owned and copyrighted by Hasbro Inc. Just because you can go out and purchase a standard board or card version of Monopoly, Risk, Life, etc doesn't mean creating a PC version is completely legal. Hasbro, as the copyright holder, is legally entitled to royalty fees for using that particular game. Fortunately, they haven't gone after Spoonbill Software, Kitchens Inc, or RS Games, but from a legal standpoint they are well in their rights to sue because its an illegal use of an intellectual copyright, and it may effect the sales of their official product. For example, when you go to the store be it Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Toys R Us, whatever and buy Monopoly that money goes back to Hasbro with a certain amount going to the store for selling it. Now, if you create a Monopoly game for the PC and weather you sell it or not Hasbro isn't making any money off your creation. If a thousand people play your PC Monopoly game Hasbro considers it a thousand possible sales they've lost because of your free Monopoly game. If you consider the average Monopoly board game costs $25.00 USD that's $25,000 they've lost in sales, and they'll expect you to pay them the $25,000 to make up the lost sales. That is why its so dangerous to create games based on a copyright. In many cases Hasbro or another copyright holder might overlook it, ignore it, and not bother with a small time independent game developer. However, if they should come after a game developer he or she could be up to there eyes in hot water in a hurry. The best way to avoid this is to create a game that is similar, but avoid any trademarks that might get them into trouble. For example, I've had an idea for a Monopoly game called Space Colony. You would travel the universe buying up planets, building settlements, and become an intergalactic businessman or woman. The rules could be similar to Monopoly without using any copyrights or trademarks that could bring the wrath of Hasbro down on a developers head. Another idea is take Risk and call it Kingdoms. You could create an entire fantasy board with 42 possible territories and would play using knights, horseman, and chariots. The rule set could be similar to Risk but by creating custom peaces, custom territories, and even custom mission cards you'd completely avoid copyright infringement and create a game that is unique at the same time. Cheers! On 1/14/12, Michael Gauler michael.gau...@gmx.de wrote: But who has the rights to board games? Ok, one developer might have created a PC or console version of Monopoly for example, but everyone can play this game without a computer and everyone can buy such a game around the world. Same should go for other dice and board games and also for card games. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
HI, Yes, it is agn.quentinc.net. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Laurel Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk Oh I didn't even realize they had a version! I'll check it out for sure. Do you know their website? On 1/14/12, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi,I believe you are missing a Monoopoly version...the Quentin C's Playroom. It would definitely be worth checking out. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Laurel Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:30 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk hm, maybe this is a dumb thought or question, but I wonder if a blind game developer could ever contact the company and get permission to make a braille version or risk, or an accessible online version. Think about it, there's braille monopoly out there that you have to pay for. Also, the company wouldn't be losing alot by giving somebody permission to develop accessible risk for us, either via braille or on the computer. We (us blind gamers) are not a relatively large community compared to the population as a whole, therefore as a whole compared to the rest of the world, the demand for an accessible risk isn't great. I know it's a big deal for us, but sighted people could care less. So I wonder if the company that sells risk would ever allow a blind game developer to create a version of accessible risk. I personally would even be willing to pay the standard selling price, $30 or whatever it is for a normal risk board, if I could have an accessible version of my favorite game. Just like I'd be willing to pay for an accessible version of monopoly, which thanks to Jim Kitchens and rs games we have for free. Anyway, just a thought, how plosible do I even sound? I don't know much about copyright laws or permission or anything, but is this totally out of the realm of possibilities guys? Laurel and Stockard On 1/14/12, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Some years ago Hasbro purchased Parker Brothers and Milton Bradly. As a result most of the board games out there are now owned and copyrighted by Hasbro Inc. Just because you can go out and purchase a standard board or card version of Monopoly, Risk, Life, etc doesn't mean creating a PC version is completely legal. Hasbro, as the copyright holder, is legally entitled to royalty fees for using that particular game. Fortunately, they haven't gone after Spoonbill Software, Kitchens Inc, or RS Games, but from a legal standpoint they are well in their rights to sue because its an illegal use of an intellectual copyright, and it may effect the sales of their official product. For example, when you go to the store be it Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Toys R Us, whatever and buy Monopoly that money goes back to Hasbro with a certain amount going to the store for selling it. Now, if you create a Monopoly game for the PC and weather you sell it or not Hasbro isn't making any money off your creation. If a thousand people play your PC Monopoly game Hasbro considers it a thousand possible sales they've lost because of your free Monopoly game. If you consider the average Monopoly board game costs $25.00 USD that's $25,000 they've lost in sales, and they'll expect you to pay them the $25,000 to make up the lost sales. That is why its so dangerous to create games based on a copyright. In many cases Hasbro or another copyright holder might overlook it, ignore it, and not bother with a small time independent game developer. However, if they should come after a game developer he or she could be up to there eyes in hot water in a hurry. The best way to avoid this is to create a game that is similar, but avoid any trademarks that might get them into trouble. For example, I've had an idea for a Monopoly game called Space Colony. You would travel the universe buying up planets, building settlements, and become an intergalactic businessman or woman. The rules could be similar to Monopoly without using any copyrights or trademarks that could bring the wrath of Hasbro down on a developers head. Another idea is take Risk and call it Kingdoms. You could create an entire fantasy board with 42 possible territories and would play using knights, horseman, and chariots. The rule set could be similar to Risk but by creating custom peaces, custom territories, and even custom mission cards you'd completely avoid copyright infringement and create a game that is unique at the same time. Cheers! On 1/14/12, Michael Gauler michael.gau...@gmx.de wrote: But who has the rights to board games? Ok, one developer might have created a PC or console version of Monopoly
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Thanks, I'll check it out. You know, I just thought of something. Somebody could create a game like risk, but not named risk, and could even have countries. There are 293 or so countries in the world, so you could even use real place names but they wouldn't necessarily match up with risk or infringe on risk's copyrights. You could have like somebody else suggested, knights charriots and horses or some other combination and you could have a similar set of mission cards. Anyway, just a thought. On 1/14/12, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: HI, Yes, it is agn.quentinc.net. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Laurel Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:34 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk Oh I didn't even realize they had a version! I'll check it out for sure. Do you know their website? On 1/14/12, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi,I believe you are missing a Monoopoly version...the Quentin C's Playroom. It would definitely be worth checking out. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Laurel Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:30 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk hm, maybe this is a dumb thought or question, but I wonder if a blind game developer could ever contact the company and get permission to make a braille version or risk, or an accessible online version. Think about it, there's braille monopoly out there that you have to pay for. Also, the company wouldn't be losing alot by giving somebody permission to develop accessible risk for us, either via braille or on the computer. We (us blind gamers) are not a relatively large community compared to the population as a whole, therefore as a whole compared to the rest of the world, the demand for an accessible risk isn't great. I know it's a big deal for us, but sighted people could care less. So I wonder if the company that sells risk would ever allow a blind game developer to create a version of accessible risk. I personally would even be willing to pay the standard selling price, $30 or whatever it is for a normal risk board, if I could have an accessible version of my favorite game. Just like I'd be willing to pay for an accessible version of monopoly, which thanks to Jim Kitchens and rs games we have for free. Anyway, just a thought, how plosible do I even sound? I don't know much about copyright laws or permission or anything, but is this totally out of the realm of possibilities guys? Laurel and Stockard On 1/14/12, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Some years ago Hasbro purchased Parker Brothers and Milton Bradly. As a result most of the board games out there are now owned and copyrighted by Hasbro Inc. Just because you can go out and purchase a standard board or card version of Monopoly, Risk, Life, etc doesn't mean creating a PC version is completely legal. Hasbro, as the copyright holder, is legally entitled to royalty fees for using that particular game. Fortunately, they haven't gone after Spoonbill Software, Kitchens Inc, or RS Games, but from a legal standpoint they are well in their rights to sue because its an illegal use of an intellectual copyright, and it may effect the sales of their official product. For example, when you go to the store be it Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Toys R Us, whatever and buy Monopoly that money goes back to Hasbro with a certain amount going to the store for selling it. Now, if you create a Monopoly game for the PC and weather you sell it or not Hasbro isn't making any money off your creation. If a thousand people play your PC Monopoly game Hasbro considers it a thousand possible sales they've lost because of your free Monopoly game. If you consider the average Monopoly board game costs $25.00 USD that's $25,000 they've lost in sales, and they'll expect you to pay them the $25,000 to make up the lost sales. That is why its so dangerous to create games based on a copyright. In many cases Hasbro or another copyright holder might overlook it, ignore it, and not bother with a small time independent game developer. However, if they should come after a game developer he or she could be up to there eyes in hot water in a hurry. The best way to avoid this is to create a game that is similar, but avoid any trademarks that might get them into trouble. For example, I've had an idea for a Monopoly game called Space Colony. You would travel the universe buying up planets, building settlements, and become an intergalactic businessman or woman. The rules could be similar to Monopoly without using any copyrights or trademarks that could bring the wrath of Hasbro down on a developers head. Another idea
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Hi Laurel, Its not a dumb idea at all. I can't say one way or another how Hasbro would respond to a request for permission to create an accessible version of Risk since I haven't asked them, but even if they said no it wouldn't be the end of the world. As I mentioned in my prior post there are ways to sidestep around copyright issues by renaming the game, changing the playing pieces, and using different territories on the board while keeping the essential game play in tact. It just requires knowing how far you can go before you step over the line into copyright infringement. My guess is, and its just a guess, that Hasbro probably wouldn't give us too much of a hassle given we are a very small minority, and if the developer weren't going to sell it it wouldn't be like we are making money off of their game. However, ultimately the only way to really know is to contact their legal department and ask them directly. Cheers! On 1/14/12, Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: hm, maybe this is a dumb thought or question, but I wonder if a blind game developer could ever contact the company and get permission to make a braille version or risk, or an accessible online version. Think about it, there's braille monopoly out there that you have to pay for. Also, the company wouldn't be losing alot by giving somebody permission to develop accessible risk for us, either via braille or on the computer. We (us blind gamers) are not a relatively large community compared to the population as a whole, therefore as a whole compared to the rest of the world, the demand for an accessible risk isn't great. I know it's a big deal for us, but sighted people could care less. So I wonder if the company that sells risk would ever allow a blind game developer to create a version of accessible risk. I personally would even be willing to pay the standard selling price, $30 or whatever it is for a normal risk board, if I could have an accessible version of my favorite game. Just like I'd be willing to pay for an accessible version of monopoly, which thanks to Jim Kitchens and rs games we have for free. Anyway, just a thought, how plosible do I even sound? I don't know much about copyright laws or permission or anything, but is this totally out of the realm of possibilities guys? Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Laurel, Yes, that is exactly my point. Your board or map wouldn't have to exactly match up with Risk. You can use any countries of your choice. You might set it in the modern world or have a map of the ancient world. You might have pieces like knights, chariots, and horseman, or maybe have units like soldiers, tanks, and jets. It really doesn't matter as long as you modify it enough to avoid direct copyright infringement of the game. Cheers! On 1/14/12, Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, I'll check it out. You know, I just thought of something. Somebody could create a game like risk, but not named risk, and could even have countries. There are 293 or so countries in the world, so you could even use real place names but they wouldn't necessarily match up with risk or infringe on risk's copyrights. You could have like somebody else suggested, knights charriots and horses or some other combination and you could have a similar set of mission cards. Anyway, just a thought. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Just for your information, the playroom website is no more agn.quentinc.net but http://qcsalon.net/ QC is for QuentinC and salon is the french name of the playroom. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Lexi, Although my games are not multi player on line games, they are all together in one package like you asked for. That is you install the winkit.zip file which creates the kitchensinc folder and installs the game menu program, then all of the rest of my games go into that folder and are launched by the game menu program, then the games return to the game menu program so that you can choose to play another game. And black jack, poker, craps, slot machine and roulette wheel are all in the casino game. All of the below games can be found on my free windows sapi5 text to speech games page. Awesome Homer, Baseball, BattleShip, Black Jack, Concentration, coupling, Craps, Draw Poker, Football, Golf, Hangman, Homer on a Harley, Life, Mach 1 tts, Master Mind, Monopoly, Pong, Puppy1, Reaction, Roulette, Simon, Skunk, Slot Machine, Snakes and Ladders, Spanker, Star Mule, Triple J Shooter, Trivia game engine, Trucker, Yahtzee Braille reference guide, Brain, Reader, Waver, Batting practice, Golf course maker, monopoly board maker BFN Jim Kitchen's Inc, for games that are up to 110 percent funner to play. j...@kitchensinc.net http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hello, Risk seems to be a board game, right ? If someone can send a complete description of the board and detailled rules, I might be able to make it for the playroom (without bots of course) IN that case, I would need very precise things, because I don't know that game at all. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I allso love this game in the board version. An accessible version for computer would be absolutely great! Cheers. Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 1/12/2012 9:27 AM, QuentinC wrote: Hello, Risk seems to be a board game, right ? If someone can send a complete description of the board and detailled rules, I might be able to make it for the playroom (without bots of course) IN that case, I would need very precise things, because I don't know that game at all. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Quentin Are you able to create a scrabble game too? Or even a multi player version of hangman It would be nice to have all the most commonly played word board and card games in one neat package if possible Thanks, Lexi -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Gonçalves Sent: 12 January 2012 12:57 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk I allso love this game in the board version. An accessible version for computer would be absolutely great! Cheers. Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 1/12/2012 9:27 AM, QuentinC wrote: Hello, Risk seems to be a board game, right ? If someone can send a complete description of the board and detailled rules, I might be able to make it for the playroom (without bots of course) IN that case, I would need very precise things, because I don't know that game at all. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hello, Scrabble would be perfectly possible, but 1 - I need a dictionnary of words. I have one in french, but I have nothing in english. Such a dictionnary must contain all plurals and verb declinations. 2 - I need letter token repartition. At the moment I have that neither in french nor english. 3 - I need a description of the board, because I don't know where exactly are the bonus squares. If I have none, I could also consider a blank 15x15 grid, but that would probably take away a part of fun and strategy from the game. 4 - What about copyright ? since scrabble is a world-wide registered game name When I was partially sighted, I had a physical board, but since I'm blind, I haven't bough any accessible version. So I can't check myself, and anyway, I'm even not sure if english board is the same as french one. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hello Lexi, I think that it would be better for Quentin to concentrate on the game of Risk because: 1. We have a hangmane. No an online version, but we have it. And, the replay value is much less than in Risk. 2. We have scrable to, and we do not! have the risk game. Why would we make Quentin make something that already exists in some way, as he can do something completely new, and with that said, have his server more popular? He already did something noone had done before: he had his server translated in more than one language, that is already a great thing. So he has more possibilities than any other developer in our comunity in the field of the board games and card games. Best regards! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: Lexi A donna.m.aitk...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk Hi, Quentin Are you able to create a scrabble game too? Or even a multi player version of hangman It would be nice to have all the most commonly played word board and card games in one neat package if possible Thanks, Lexi -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Gonçalves Sent: 12 January 2012 12:57 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk I allso love this game in the board version. An accessible version for computer would be absolutely great! Cheers. Jorge Gonçalves jopo...@hotmail.com Skype: joport3 Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com On 1/12/2012 9:27 AM, QuentinC wrote: Hello, Risk seems to be a board game, right ? If someone can send a complete description of the board and detailled rules, I might be able to make it for the playroom (without bots of course) IN that case, I would need very precise things, because I don't know that game at all. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6788 (20120112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6788 (20120112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Thank you for your encouragements. But there is something very important to note: I'm more likely to make scrabble than risk, for a very simple reason: I have already played scrabble and know how to play, but I have never played risk. If I want to developp something I have never pleyed, somebody must send me all game details: complete rules, but also how very precisely are board, dice, cards, tokens, etc. It's actually difficult. But not totally impracticable if I have all the data I need. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hello, Here's wikipedia's Risk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_(game) Hth Dave On 1/12/12, QuentinC quent...@cfardel.net wrote: Thank you for your encouragements. But there is something very important to note: I'm more likely to make scrabble than risk, for a very simple reason: I have already played scrabble and know how to play, but I have never played risk. If I want to developp something I have never pleyed, somebody must send me all game details: complete rules, but also how very precisely are board, dice, cards, tokens, etc. It's actually difficult. But not totally impracticable if I have all the data I need. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Risk is a strategic board game, produced by Parker Brothers (now a division of Hasbro). It was invented by French film director Albert Lamorisse and originally released in 1957 as La Conquête du Monde (The Conquest of the World) in France. Risk is a turn-based game for two to six players. The standard version is played on a board depicting a political map of the Earth, divided into forty-two territories, which are grouped into six continents. The primary object of the game is world domination, or to occupy every territory on the board and in so doing, eliminate all other players.[1] Players control armies with which they attempt to capture territories from other players, with results determined by dice rolls. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_(game) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Quentin, I know that with a serbian version of the game there was a manual encluded in a printed version. Now, having in mind that the game is originally from France, it is far more easy to find a manual in french than for me to find it in Serbian. So, with all encouragements from before, Quentin, good luck! Smile! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs - Original Message - From: QuentinC quent...@cfardel.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk Thank you for your encouragements. But there is something very important to note: I'm more likely to make scrabble than risk, for a very simple reason: I have already played scrabble and know how to play, but I have never played risk. If I want to developp something I have never pleyed, somebody must send me all game details: complete rules, but also how very precisely are board, dice, cards, tokens, etc. It's actually difficult. But not totally impracticable if I have all the data I need. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6789 (20120112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6789 (20120112) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Hi Quentin, right. Risk is a strategy board game where you command an army and you try and take over the world. There are a number of versions of the game from different periods of world history as well as various special editions like Transformers, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, etc. Each have different cards and boards. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Hi Quentin, Yeah, I need the same. I know my wife and I own a Risk game, but we're having troubles locating it. I think we took it to my in-laws and left it there for some holiday or other and its probably in one of their closets. Once we find it I plan to have her read the rules, cards, etc into a digital recorder so I can create a computer version. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Hi, Oh, I've heard Hasbro is rather strict when it comes to their copyrights. I heard of this case where a guy created an online game of Scrabble, apparently it was very popular, and even though the guy wasn't charging for people to play Hasbro took him to court and legally forced him to shut down the website. Unfortunately, that's the kind of risk we take when creating accessible versions of games like Scrabble, Monopoly, Risk, etc because they are copyrighted and if it comes to their attention they have legal rights to shut any accessible developer down for copyright infringement. We are just lucky that the developers we do have haven't been hit with a lawsuit as it would be their legal right to do so. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Hi Ryan, Thanks, but I already own a copy of Time of Conflict. Like you I love the game, but its not Risk. There is still room for a computer version of Risk as it is a challenging and fun board game. If I can find my copy of the board game I plan to write down all of the rules, cards, etc and see if I might be able to come up with a SAPI 5 version along the lines of what Jim Kitchen did with Monopoly, Life, and so on. Cheers! On 1/12/12, Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com wrote: It's not risk--I think it's better--but you guys really ought to consider checking out Time of Conflict from GMA Games. It's a strategy game based on conquering a map with a variety of World War II-themed pieces. In the new, forthcoming version, David has built in the ability to create custom rule sets and playing pieces, so players could easily build an LOTR or Star Trek theme and share it with their friends. The best part, though, is that the new version will be fully multi-player, enabling you to play online with several of your friends at once. Definitely give it a look, and let us know on list if you have any questions. Best, Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:51 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk Hi, Well, if anyone has an accessible copy of the rules, IE the manual, for Risk send it my way. If someone could scan them and send them to me I might see if I can write a quick and dirty game of Risk for you guys. One of the problems for me is I don't remember all of the rules exactly, and of course it depends on if you are playing Risk or Mission Risk. Plus there are a number of variations on the game now with Star Wars Classic, Star Wars Clone Wars, Transformers, Lord of the Rings, etc that could be made into audio games. Each of these specialized boards have extra cards and different maps from Classic Risk. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
I read the wikipedia page and it seems to be perfectly doable for the playroom. The world map will just have to be arranged so that it goes on a squared grid. However, the wikipedia article is of course not precise enough on certain points. Missing are: * Exact connections between countries, especially where are links over oceans * Exact card contents. As I understood, there are 72 cards in total, one for each country, 2 jokers and 28 missions. But are unused missions always in the deck ? It looks strange... because you could guess what is your opponents' mission. so 28 cards may be unclear. * Battle rules kept me in doubt: they first say that you can't send more than 3 attackers against 2 defenders, and further they say that you can send any attackers as you wish and continue until a region is totally defeated. I must have missed something. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Y'all, let me tell ya. I have no developing knowledge and don't know how to write games at all. I do know how to play risk, and I love it. So if any of you developers would be willing to make an accessible risk version, I would be totally happy to help you in any way that I could. I would be happy to help you by telling you the rules, how you play etc. I could test the game for you and help you in that way, basically, I'm willing to do anything to help. I just want an accessible version of my favorite game in the world and I would be oh so happy if somebody would make one for me, and I'd be happy to help in any way I can. I'd even be willing to skype somebody or something if they wanted to talk in real time not just by email in order to work on making the game. I'm desperate lol. Laurel and Stockard P.S. maybe I can learn something about game building in the process as I have ideas for games and just don't know how to make them. On 1/12/12, QuentinC quent...@cfardel.net wrote: I read the wikipedia page and it seems to be perfectly doable for the playroom. The world map will just have to be arranged so that it goes on a squared grid. However, the wikipedia article is of course not precise enough on certain points. Missing are: * Exact connections between countries, especially where are links over oceans * Exact card contents. As I understood, there are 72 cards in total, one for each country, 2 jokers and 28 missions. But are unused missions always in the deck ? It looks strange... because you could guess what is your opponents' mission. so 28 cards may be unclear. * Battle rules kept me in doubt: they first say that you can't send more than 3 attackers against 2 defenders, and further they say that you can send any attackers as you wish and continue until a region is totally defeated. I must have missed something. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, I do not know how to play this game but heard a lot of good things about it so i'd be interested in playing it if it was made as i like board games. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Laurel, Risk happens to be one of my favorite board games as well. Especially, the Star Wars: Clone Wars edition by Hasbro. Unfortunately, there are no accessible audio game versions of Risk that I am aware of. If I wasn't already presently tied up with a million other projects I might consider writing one, but I am not aware of any IPhone or PC versions accessible enough for us to play at this time. Cheers! On 1/11/12, Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Are you guys familiar with the board game Risk? It's my favorite game, aside from monopoly. I can't find an accessible version of the game anywhere and was wondering if somebody would help me try to find one. I'm interested in either finding an online version, one for a windows operating system, or a version that works on the iPhone or iPad running IOS5. If anybody knows of a version available, free or paid, or knows of some one who would be interested/or is interested in developing an accessible version of that game I would love any info you could give me. Thanks all, Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
Hi, I love Risk! It's a holiday tradition since I was little, family members gather around and play it. Monopoly was and is another favorite, I've got a Braille version of MOnopoly, but like Risk am looking for an audio version of it as well. Thanks. Dave. On 1/11/12, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Laurel, Risk happens to be one of my favorite board games as well. Especially, the Star Wars: Clone Wars edition by Hasbro. Unfortunately, there are no accessible audio game versions of Risk that I am aware of. If I wasn't already presently tied up with a million other projects I might consider writing one, but I am not aware of any IPhone or PC versions accessible enough for us to play at this time. Cheers! On 1/11/12, Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Are you guys familiar with the board game Risk? It's my favorite game, aside from monopoly. I can't find an accessible version of the game anywhere and was wondering if somebody would help me try to find one. I'm interested in either finding an online version, one for a windows operating system, or a version that works on the iPhone or iPad running IOS5. If anybody knows of a version available, free or paid, or knows of some one who would be interested/or is interested in developing an accessible version of that game I would love any info you could give me. Thanks all, Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi, Well, if anyone has an accessible copy of the rules, IE the manual, for Risk send it my way. If someone could scan them and send them to me I might see if I can write a quick and dirty game of Risk for you guys. One of the problems for me is I don't remember all of the rules exactly, and of course it depends on if you are playing Risk or Mission Risk. Plus there are a number of variations on the game now with Star Wars Classic, Star Wars Clone Wars, Transformers, Lord of the Rings, etc that could be made into audio games. Each of these specialized boards have extra cards and different maps from Classic Risk. Cheers! On 1/11/12, David Mehler dave.meh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I love Risk! It's a holiday tradition since I was little, family members gather around and play it. Monopoly was and is another favorite, I've got a Braille version of MOnopoly, but like Risk am looking for an audio version of it as well. Thanks. Dave. On 1/11/12, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Laurel, Risk happens to be one of my favorite board games as well. Especially, the Star Wars: Clone Wars edition by Hasbro. Unfortunately, there are no accessible audio game versions of Risk that I am aware of. If I wasn't already presently tied up with a million other projects I might consider writing one, but I am not aware of any IPhone or PC versions accessible enough for us to play at this time. Cheers! On 1/11/12, Laurel laurel.stock...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Are you guys familiar with the board game Risk? It's my favorite game, aside from monopoly. I can't find an accessible version of the game anywhere and was wondering if somebody would help me try to find one. I'm interested in either finding an online version, one for a windows operating system, or a version that works on the iPhone or iPad running IOS5. If anybody knows of a version available, free or paid, or knows of some one who would be interested/or is interested in developing an accessible version of that game I would love any info you could give me. Thanks all, Laurel and Stockard --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk
It's not risk--I think it's better--but you guys really ought to consider checking out Time of Conflict from GMA Games. It's a strategy game based on conquering a map with a variety of World War II-themed pieces. In the new, forthcoming version, David has built in the ability to create custom rule sets and playing pieces, so players could easily build an LOTR or Star Trek theme and share it with their friends. The best part, though, is that the new version will be fully multi-player, enabling you to play online with several of your friends at once. Definitely give it a look, and let us know on list if you have any questions. Best, Ryan -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:51 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for an accessible version of risk Hi, Well, if anyone has an accessible copy of the rules, IE the manual, for Risk send it my way. If someone could scan them and send them to me I might see if I can write a quick and dirty game of Risk for you guys. One of the problems for me is I don't remember all of the rules exactly, and of course it depends on if you are playing Risk or Mission Risk. Plus there are a number of variations on the game now with Star Wars Classic, Star Wars Clone Wars, Transformers, Lord of the Rings, etc that could be made into audio games. Each of these specialized boards have extra cards and different maps from Classic Risk. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
