[gecko]Re: (gecko) UPS Shipping Practices
Hi Melody, I work for UPS, here's the rundown on how the system works: Your Next Day Air will go straight to PDX airport, where it will be loaded into a container with all the other eastbound Next Day Airs and fly directly to Louisville, KY (westbound packages go to Ontario, CA). It gets unloaded, sorted, then reloaded into a new container for the airport nearest the final destination. At that airport, the entire container is put on a truck and moved to the destination hub, where it is unloaded, sorted, and sent out for delivery. So a typical NDA is sorted a total of two or three times before being loaded on the delivery truck. Packages containing live animals are not handled separately from the rest, your best bet is to put it in a flat box as opposed to a cube-shaped box so it doesn't get turned over as much. Heat will have to come from heat packs, and unless the box you use is airtight, ventilation shouldn't be an issue. I'm sorry you couldn't get a better answer to your question from UPS. Unfortunately, the people you call on the phone via the 1-800 number are not necessarily familiar with all the ins and outs of package routing (I'm not positive they are even UPS employees at all). You would be hard pressed to find someone to talk to who could tell you the exact route a package would take to a specific destination...I'm a delivery driver, and I know neither my supervisor nor manager could without calling someone in Louisville first. You might try calling your Account Executive and seeing if they can find the info for you, but don't expect instant response, LOL. Hope this info is helpful, I check this list every day so if you have any other questions just ask! Chris ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Fw: gecko identification
Hmmm. I was thinking Pachydactylus, they look similar to my P. tigrinus, feet are different however. A better quality photo if possible would help. Julie Bergman www.geckoranch.com GGA lifetime member GGA Webmaster wrote: Hopefully someone can help Stuart identify this gecko. Greg Christenson GGA Webmaster, Listserve Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gekkota.com - Original Message - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:33 AM Subject: gecko identification Dear sir/Madam, I wonder if you or your members could identify a gecko for me. I have a colony of these but need to find new individuals to add to the colony to prevent them getting too inbred. However I have never been able to find the correct name for this species. They have only ever been sold as dwarf ground gecko's. I have attached photo's. They grow to 2 to 2.5 inches max. I would be grateful for any information you may have and also any source of new specimens. Thank you for your help, Stuart Trench-Brown ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Re: (gecko) UPS Shipping Practices
Hi Chris, Thanks so much! I could not imagine that the packages did not get sorted somewhere! I thought the use of centralized hubs was a large part of what makes UPS efficient! I probably spent half an hour on the phone with UPS, and they did tell me lots of stuff, just irrelevant and not answering my question. Your info also corresponds with what Julie said. However, she did say that Rockford IL is the hub for N and NE areas -- is this no longer true? Thanks, Melody CHRIS SCHWEITZER wrote: Hi Melody, I work for UPS, here's the rundown on how the system works: Your Next Day Air will go straight to PDX airport, where it will be loaded into a container with all the other eastbound Next Day Airs and fly directly to Louisville, KY (westbound packages go to Ontario, CA). It gets unloaded, sorted, then reloaded into a new container for the airport nearest the final destination. At that airport, the entire container is put on a truck and moved to the destination hub, where it is unloaded, sorted, and sent out for delivery. So a typical NDA is sorted a total of two or three times before being loaded on the delivery truck. Packages containing live animals are not handled separately from the rest, your best bet is to put it in a flat box as opposed to a cube-shaped box so it doesn't get turned over as much. Heat will have to come from heat packs, and unless the box you use is airtight, ventilation shouldn't be an issue. I'm sorry you couldn't get a better answer to your question from UPS. Unfortunately, the people you call on the phone via the 1-800 number are not necessarily familiar with all the ins and outs of package routing (I'm not positive they are even UPS employees at all). You would be hard pressed to find someone to talk to who could tell you the exact route a package would take to a specific destination...I'm a delivery driver, and I know neither my supervisor nor manager could without calling someone in Louisville first. You might try calling your Account Executive and seeing if they can find the info for you, but don't expect instant response, LOL. Hope this info is helpful, I check this list every day so if you have any other questions just ask! Chris ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Fw: gecko identification
GGA Webmaster wrote: Hopefully someone can help Stuart identify this gecko. Looks like a Tropiocolotes, probably T. steudneri. I can't get the GGA photo gallery to come up, so the best thing to do is a Google Image Search for Tropiocolotes. There are a few images available to compare his gecko to. Hilde -- ~*~*~*~*~*~ Buckle up. It makes it harder for the aliens to snatch you from your car. ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Re: (gecko) UPS Shipping Practices
CHRIS SCHWEITZER wrote: Hi Melody, I work for UPS, here's the rundown on how the system works: Your Next Day Air will go straight to PDX airport, where it will be loaded into a container with all the other eastbound Next Day Airs and fly directly to Louisville, KY (westbound packages go to Ontario, CA). Hi Chris, I have had my shipments to Illinois and surrounding states go directly to Rockford, IL from Ontario, California. This is important to know as this hub gets VERY cold in the winter. Anything going to the northeast may go there or through Louisville. I had a rep tell me once it depends on the loads the planes are carrying. The southern states always have my geckos going through Louisville. Another important thing to know about these two hubs is that the geckos will sit there usually about 2 hours between 1am and 3am, a very cold time of the night. Louisville is usually not a problem temp-wise. I know all this because I save my tracking from each order and print it out if it is a new place I am shipping to, or the route to that area was not typical. It gets unloaded, sorted, then reloaded into a new container for the airport nearest the final destination. At that airport, the entire container is put on a truck and moved to the destination hub, where it is unloaded, sorted, and sent out for delivery. So a typical NDA is sorted a total of two or three times before being loaded on the delivery truck. Packages containing live animals are not handled separately from the rest, your best bet is to put it in a flat box as opposed to a cube-shaped box so it doesn't get turned over as much. LOL! I pack them for that. Heat will have to come from heat packs, and unless the box you use is airtight, ventilation shouldn't be an issue. I'm sorry you couldn't get a better answer to your question from UPS. Unfortunately, the people you call on the phone via the 1-800 number are not necessarily familiar with all the ins and outs of package routing (I'm not positive they are even UPS employees at all). Indeed! I have had luck asking questions through my UPS rep. - when she was not available I had decent luck with the phone folks if I asked them to ask their supervisor. You would be hard pressed to find someone to talk to who could tell you the exact route a package would take to a specific destination...I'm a delivery driver, and I know neither my supervisor nor manager could without calling someone in Louisville first. You might try calling your Account Executive and seeing if they can find the info for you, but don't expect instant response, LOL. My rep was pretty good, I have had a new one for a couple months and have not heard from her. Hope this info is helpful, I check this list every day so if you have any other questions just ask! Is there anything I could put on the box that would keep the drivers from treating my boxes like footballs? So far I have not had much luck with pre-printed red up arrows and Perishable on all four sides, LIVE circled in red, and THIS SIDE UP on the top of the box My boxes are 15x7x11 and are white in background color. Thanks for any tips! Julie Bergman www.geckoranch.com GGA lifetime member Chris ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Re: (gecko) UPS Shipping Practices
Hi Chris and Julie, I guess I need to find out who my rep is! I did talk with a supervisor, even got his name, but he was not too useful! I hadn't thought of saving the tracking info -- good tip Julie! Thanks, Melody Julie Bergman wrote: CHRIS SCHWEITZER wrote: Hi Melody, I work for UPS, here's the rundown on how the system works: Your Next Day Air will go straight to PDX airport, where it will be loaded into a container with all the other eastbound Next Day Airs and fly directly to Louisville, KY (westbound packages go to Ontario, CA). Hi Chris, I have had my shipments to Illinois and surrounding states go directly to Rockford, IL from Ontario, California. This is important to know as this hub gets VERY cold in the winter. Anything going to the northeast may go there or through Louisville. I had a rep tell me once it depends on the loads the planes are carrying. The southern states always have my geckos going through Louisville. Another important thing to know about these two hubs is that the geckos will sit there usually about 2 hours between 1am and 3am, a very cold time of the night. Louisville is usually not a problem temp-wise. I know all this because I save my tracking from each order and print it out if it is a new place I am shipping to, or the route to that area was not typical. It gets unloaded, sorted, then reloaded into a new container for the airport nearest the final destination. At that airport, the entire container is put on a truck and moved to the destination hub, where it is unloaded, sorted, and sent out for delivery. So a typical NDA is sorted a total of two or three times before being loaded on the delivery truck. Packages containing live animals are not handled separately from the rest, your best bet is to put it in a flat box as opposed to a cube-shaped box so it doesn't get turned over as much. LOL! I pack them for that. Heat will have to come from heat packs, and unless the box you use is airtight, ventilation shouldn't be an issue. I'm sorry you couldn't get a better answer to your question from UPS. Unfortunately, the people you call on the phone via the 1-800 number are not necessarily familiar with all the ins and outs of package routing (I'm not positive they are even UPS employees at all). Indeed! I have had luck asking questions through my UPS rep. - when she was not available I had decent luck with the phone folks if I asked them to ask their supervisor. You would be hard pressed to find someone to talk to who could tell you the exact route a package would take to a specific destination...I'm a delivery driver, and I know neither my supervisor nor manager could without calling someone in Louisville first. You might try calling your Account Executive and seeing if they can find the info for you, but don't expect instant response, LOL. My rep was pretty good, I have had a new one for a couple months and have not heard from her. Hope this info is helpful, I check this list every day so if you have any other questions just ask! Is there anything I could put on the box that would keep the drivers from treating my boxes like footballs? So far I have not had much luck with pre-printed red up arrows and Perishable on all four sides, LIVE circled in red, and THIS SIDE UP on the top of the box My boxes are 15x7x11 and are white in background color. Thanks for any tips! Julie Bergman www.geckoranch.com GGA lifetime member Chris ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Fw: gecko identification
i agree with julie, it looks like a Pachydactylus tigrinus. Brandon - Original Message - From: Hilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [gecko]Fw: gecko identification GGA Webmaster wrote: Hopefully someone can help Stuart identify this gecko. Looks like a Tropiocolotes, probably T. steudneri. I can't get the GGA photo gallery to come up, so the best thing to do is a Google Image Search for Tropiocolotes. There are a few images available to compare his gecko to. Hilde -- ~*~*~*~*~*~ Buckle up. It makes it harder for the aliens to snatch you from your car. ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Fw: gecko identification
Almost certainly looks like a Tropicolotes to me as well. Robert --- Hilde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > GGA Webmaster wrote: > > > > Hopefully someone can help Stuart identify this > gecko. > > > > > > Looks like a Tropiocolotes, probably T. steudneri. > I can't get the GGA photo gallery to come > up, so the best thing to do is a Google Image Search > for Tropiocolotes. There are a few images > available to compare his gecko to. > > Hilde > -- > ~*~*~*~*~*~ > Buckle up. It makes it harder for the aliens to > snatch you from your car. > > ___ > Global Gecko Association > http://www.gekkota.com > Classifieds > http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi > gecko mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko Robert Robert Gundy ReptilesDo you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.
Re: [gecko]Re: (gecko) UPS Shipping Practices
At 10:29 AM 3/28/2004 -0800, you wrote: Turtle Homes recommends using labels with the US flag on them. It seems people don't like to see the flag upside down, so they stay upright more often. Here is a link to where you can print them. http://www.turtlehomes.org/usa/labels.htm and here is a link to their shipping page. http://www.turtlehomes.org/usa/shipping.shtml Lisa H. Is there anything I could put on the box that would keep the drivers from treating my boxes like footballs? So far I have not had much luck with pre-printed red up arrows and Perishable on all four sides, LIVE circled in red, and THIS SIDE UP on the top of the box My boxes are 15x7x11 and are white in background color. Thanks for any tips! Julie Bergman www.geckoranch.com GGA lifetime member Chris ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
[gecko]uroplatus
Hi there! Well, at the herp show today i was finally able to get my brother interested in geckos, something i've been trying to do for a while i might add. I was thinking he could get started with a crested, but he wasn't too keen on them. When i showed him some leaf-tails, he thought they were awesome, lol. Anyway...my question for you is which leaf-tail would be good for a beginner? I know they aren't really a beginners gecko, but i would make sure he was doing everything right (i won't have any problems with them) until he was able to take care of one on his own. I was thinking U. henkeli. He likes their size, and if i'm not mistaken they are the easiest of the genus to take care of, correct? My personal favorites (although i've yet to keep any) are U. phantasticus, U. sikorae, and U. pietschemmani cork bark uro. I would be glad to help him set up a cage for a nice CB baby, i think it would be fun. Any thoughts on this? Also, who are some of the better uroplatus breeders in the states? thanks, Brandon ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Re: (gecko) UPS Shipping Practices
Just FYI, a friend of mine shipped a leopard gecko that died in shipping. They tracked the problem back to the fact that she had written PERISHABLE on all sides. It seems that although fragile is a good lable to put on, perishable is not. Because perishable goods are typically those that have to be refirgerated, her gecko was stored in a much cooler area than a normal package would have been, and her heat pack couldn't keep up with the ambient temp. Just a word of warning... we've learned not to use the lable perishable on live animal packages. Rick Gale Original Message Follows From: Julie Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gecko]Re: (gecko) UPS Shipping Practices Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:28:13 -0800 Lisa, That is a GREAT idea! Thankyou Julie B. ljjh wrote: At 10:29 AM 3/28/2004 -0800, you wrote: Turtle Homes recommends using labels with the US flag on them. It seems people don't like to see the flag upside down, so they stay upright more often. Here is a link to where you can print them. http://www.turtlehomes.org/usa/labels.htm and here is a link to their shipping page. http://www.turtlehomes.org/usa/shipping.shtml Lisa H. Is there anything I could put on the box that would keep the drivers from treating my boxes like footballs? So far I have not had much luck with pre-printed red up arrows and Perishable on all four sides, LIVE circled in red, and THIS SIDE UP on the top of the box My boxes are 15x7x11 and are white in background color. Thanks for any tips! Julie Bergman www.geckoranch.com GGA lifetime member Chris ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko _ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
RE: [gecko]uroplatus
Although I definitely wouldn't recommend Uro's for beginner geckos, if I had to choose one of the easiest it would definitely have to be henkeli. Make sure you get a well-started cb baby...the older the better. Good luck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Macy Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 3:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gecko]uroplatus Hi there! Well, at the herp show today i was finally able to get my brother interested in geckos, something i've been trying to do for a while i might add. I was thinking he could get started with a crested, but he wasn't too keen on them. When i showed him some leaf-tails, he thought they were awesome, lol. Anyway...my question for you is which leaf-tail would be good for a beginner? I know they aren't really a beginners gecko, but i would make sure he was doing everything right (i won't have any problems with them) until he was able to take care of one on his own. I was thinking U. henkeli. He likes their size, and if i'm not mistaken they are the easiest of the genus to take care of, correct? My personal favorites (although i've yet to keep any) are U. phantasticus, U. sikorae, and U. pietschemmani cork bark uro. I would be glad to help him set up a cage for a nice CB baby, i think it would be fun. Any thoughts on this? Also, who are some of the better uroplatus breeders in the states? thanks, Brandon ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]uroplatus
i didn't get it either :-(. What species of gex do you keep? Brandon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [gecko]uroplatus Brandon--- I sent this to the list, but perhaps the photo was too big. It hasn't shown up yet. Elizabeth Subj: Re: [gecko]uroplatus Date: 3/28/04 1:35:04 PM Pacific Standard Time From: Elizabeth Freer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] File:DSCF0023.JPG (232966 bytes) DL Time (28800 bps): 2 minutes Hi Brandon--- My first thought is how old is your brother? My favorite beginner's gecko is the Oedura castelnaui because of their calm temperaments. This gecko is about 6" total in length and weighs about 15 grams. They are very personable fellows with big dark brown eyes and seem to tolerate occasional handling well. I will attach a photo taken by Chuck Powell of an Oedura castelnaui. These are currently available from folks from $50 with an average price being $75. They are easy to care for. In Geckos We Trust, Elizabeth Seattle Subj: [gecko]uroplatus Date: 3/28/04 12:29:24 PM Pacific Standard Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brandon Macy) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there! Well, at the herp show today i was finally able to get my brother interested in geckos, something i've been trying to do for a while i might add. I was thinking he could get started with a crested, but he wasn't too keen on them. When i showed him some leaf-tails, he thought they were awesome, lol. Anyway...my question for you is which leaf-tail would be good for a beginner? I know they aren't really a "beginners" gecko, but i would make sure he was doing everything right (i won't have any problems with them) until he was able to take care of one on his own. I was thinking U. henkeli. He likes their size, and if i'm not mistaken they are the easiest of the genus to take care of, correct? My personal favorites (although i've yet to keep any) are U. phantasticus, U. sikorae, and U. pietschemmani "cork bark uro". I would be glad to help him set up a cage for a nice CB baby, i think it would be fun. Any thoughts on this? Also, who are some of the better uroplatus breeders in the states? thanks, Brandon
Re: [gecko]Fw: gecko identification
i agree with julie, it looks like a Pachydactylus tigrinus. Sorry folks, I don`t. The gecko on the pic is either a Tropiocolotes as mentioned before (though definitely no steudneri, more probably one of the nattereri-group), a form of Saurodactylus mauritanicus/brosseti, or an Alsophylax-species. Further definiton needs a close-up examination of the head and chin-scutellation. size alone seems to reduce the possible genera to the three above. But counting scales in these tiny lizards is a hard job to do, I grew myself grey hair over the verification of my Tropiocolotes persicus euphorbiacola. ;-) Greetings from Hamburg Sven Vogler -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Fw: gecko identification
i agree with julie, it looks like a Pachydactylus tigrinus. Sorry folks, I don`t. The gecko on the pic is either a Tropiocolotes as mentioned before (though definitely no steudneri, more probably one of the nattereri-group), a form of Saurodactylus mauritanicus/brosseti, or an Alsophylax-species. Further definiton needs a close-up examination of the head and chin-scutellation. size alone seems to reduce the possible genera to the three above. But counting scales in these tiny lizards is a hard job to do, I grew myself grey hair over the verification of my Tropiocolotes persicus euphorbiacola. ;-) Greetings from Hamburg Sven Vogler -- _ Web-based SMS services available at http://www.operamail.com. From your mailbox to local or overseas cell phones. Powered by Outblaze ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]Re: (gecko) UPS Shipping Practices
Hi Rick, Rick Gale wrote: Just FYI, a friend of mine shipped a leopard gecko that died in shipping. That is really the exception in our biz - I have been shipping with UPS since fall '01 and only have broken tails at worst. Before then I used Postal (for about three years) and Airborne (since I started out in 1993), that was the same. I did have one calamity with Delta shipping leos. This is shipping a couple thousand (guess), mostly one and two at a time. They tracked the problem back to the fact that she had written PERISHABLE on all sides. Wow! Using what shipper? What else was written on the box? Was the heat pack warm when the gecko arrived? I'd say this is a good guess about what happened, however, shipping is a complex process and anything from packing to being at the wrong temps, to the sensitivity of the gecko (age, health, genus) and/or getting bounced around too much is just one factor out of many. It seems that although fragile is a good lable to put on, perishable is not. Because perishable goods are typically those that have to be refirgerated, her gecko was stored in a much cooler area than a normal package would have been, and her heat pack couldn't keep up with the ambient temp. Perishable is pre-printed on my boxes, has been since I started. I have written on there right below in large black ink No Extreme Temps - maybe that is the difference. I also write LIVE all over the box on all visible sides, in large black letters circled in red. Just a word of warning... we've learned not to use the lable perishable on live animal packages. So far I think LIVE and American Flags are winners, along with No Extreme temps! I think some folks who are afraid to write what is on the box not using shippers who ship reptiles probably have a lot worse luck. Since I am an authorized UPS lizard shipper, I put the contents of the box on top as well, both common and scientific names and Live harmless lizards right underneath that. I would recommend using UPS or Postal if you are not authorized so you can write this info on the top of the box. Writing the scientific names fo reptiles on the box is required by the Lacy Act. Julie B. Rick Gale Original Message Follows From: Julie Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gecko]Re: (gecko) UPS Shipping Practices Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:28:13 -0800 Lisa, That is a GREAT idea! Thankyou Julie B. ljjh wrote: At 10:29 AM 3/28/2004 -0800, you wrote: Turtle Homes recommends using labels with the US flag on them. It seems people don't like to see the flag upside down, so they stay upright more often. Here is a link to where you can print them. http://www.turtlehomes.org/usa/labels.htm and here is a link to their shipping page. http://www.turtlehomes.org/usa/shipping.shtml Lisa H. Is there anything I could put on the box that would keep the drivers from treating my boxes like footballs? So far I have not had much luck with pre-printed red up arrows and Perishable on all four sides, LIVE circled in red, and THIS SIDE UP on the top of the box My boxes are 15x7x11 and are white in background color. Thanks for any tips! Julie Bergman www.geckoranch.com GGA lifetime member Chris ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko _ All the action. All the drama. Get NCAA hoops coverage at MSN Sports by ESPN. http://msn.espn.go.com/index.html?partnersite=espn ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]uroplatus...trouble posting???
Brandon--- I sent you an attached photo of an Oedura castelnaui a few minutes ago, but every time I try to post you my e-mail is returned with the note saying that your address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] has permanent fatal errors. Someone posted me this evening saying that I sent her a virus, but my Norton's virus definitions are up-to-date as of today and I personally had not sent her any e-mails. My Norton Antivirus indicates that there seem to be no problems with my machine. Elizabeth Seattle l l l ^^ /..\ ^^ /..\ ^^ ^^ /..\ ^^ l l ^^ \\\ l l /// l l \\\ l l ~~ /// ~~ ( ~~ ) ~~ ~~ ( ~~ ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) lappert robert hubert 15.5 yo r.i.p. r.i.p (All Lepidodactylus lugubris!)
Re: [gecko]uroplatus...trouble posting???
FYI someone told me recently about a virus that inserts itself in a person's computer and sends email with the virus to their contacts. The emails appear to come from OTHER people in their contact list... so basically, someone else who has both your emails may be the actual culprit. If your virus scan program doesn't catch anything on your computer, there's not much else you personally can do to make sure you're safe. Rick Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gecko]uroplatus...trouble posting??? Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 01:03:25 EST Brandon--- I sent you an attached photo of an Oedura castelnaui a few minutes ago, but every time I try to post you my e-mail is returned with the note saying that your address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] has permanent fatal errors. Someone posted me this evening saying that I sent her a virus, but my Norton's virus definitions are up-to-date as of today and I personally had not sent her any e-mails. My Norton Antivirus indicates that there seem to be no problems with my machine. Elizabeth Seattle l ll ^^ /..\ ^^ /..\ ^^ ^^ /..\ ^^ l l ^^ \\\ l l /// l l \\\ l l ~~ /// ~~ (~~) ~~ ~~ (~~ ) () () ( ) () lappert roberthubert 15.5 yor.i.p. r.i.p (All Lepidodactylus lugubris!) _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
Re: [gecko]uroplatus...trouble posting???
Hi Elizabeth, Are you trying to reply to Brandon here or privately when experiencing this problem? As far as viruses go, it is pretty much impossible to know who sent what since viruses may use ghost e-mails so it looks like you sent a virus when you really didn't. I would direct the person who sent you that e-mail to the Norton or other antivirus website so they can learn about that. I use Norton Antivirus too, and often per week in addition to the once it runs automatically. Julie B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brandon--- I sent you an attached photo of an Oedura castelnaui a few minutes ago, but every time I try to post you my e-mail is returned with the note saying that your address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] has permanent fatal errors. Someone posted me this evening saying that I sent her a virus, but my Norton's virus definitions are up-to-date as of today and I personally had not sent her any e-mails. My Norton Antivirus indicates that there seem to be no problems with my machine. Elizabeth Seattle l ll ^^ /..\ ^^ /..\ ^^ ^^ /..\ ^^ l l ^^ \\\ l l /// l l \\\ l l ~~ /// ~~ (~~) ~~ ~~ (~~ ) () () ( ) () lappert roberthubert 15.5 yor.i.p. r.i.p (All Lepidodactylus lugubris!) ___ Global Gecko Association http://www.gekkota.com Classifieds http://www.gekkota.com/cgi-gekkota/classifieds.cgi gecko mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gekkota.com/mailman/listinfo/gecko
