Re: WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project
Rahul Akolkar wrote: If there is a connection to be drawn, I think many probably won't ;-) Always the risk with names that don't spell out precisely what name. You can easily be *too* clever, this could be one of those cases. I'd refrain from voting until a formal thread appears on the subject. I know its hard ;-) but voting now will make it tougher to tally opinions from multiple threads. Hen has taken the lead to call a vote [ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-general&m=112361926416536&w=2 ], shouldn't be too long a wait. Yeah, I got a bit excited because I really do like the name :) I'll throw my vote in the official thread when it starts... knowing me I'll probably change my mind 10 times by then anyway :) Frank - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project
On 8/9/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All would be describable (assuming no clashes) as: > > Apache Jakarta Web Components > Apache Web Components > > There's the option of doing W*4J or something, but we can discuss that > later I think as it's just an altered presentation of the chosen name. Agreed, plus I'm not too keen to see a Java tie-in with the name, given the current scope of the sub-project. We have other programming models even in the starter set. On 8/9/05, Frank W. Zammetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For what it's worth, I actually like Silk a great deal... in fact, I'd > go ahead and give it my non-binding +1... If there is a connection to be drawn, I think many probably won't ;-) I'd refrain from voting until a formal thread appears on the subject. I know its hard ;-) but voting now will make it tougher to tally opinions from multiple threads. Hen has taken the lead to call a vote [ http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-general&m=112361926416536&w=2 ], shouldn't be too long a wait. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project
For what it's worth, I actually like Silk a great deal... in fact, I'd go ahead and give it my non-binding +1... I was the one that put the idea on the Wiki of a more codeword-ish name, and I think Silk is perfect. Frank Noel J. Bergman wrote: How about Apache Spider Web? No, but you just gave me an idea: Apache Silk Silk is what webs are made of. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Frank W. Zammetti Founder and Chief Software Architect Omnytex Technologies http://www.omnytex.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project
> How about Apache Spider Web? No, but you just gave me an idea: Apache Silk Silk is what webs are made of. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project
Hey, How about Apache Spider Web? ;) Sorts of like it traps things, double-entendre on the meaning of web, etc.. Just thought I'd throw it out there ;) Yoav --- "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also Web parts appears to be a Microsoft term > > I have a shirt around here someone regarding "Parts for Java", which was a > product from ParcPlace. > > Apache WebParts would be OK with me, but I care more about the content of > the project than the name. > > --- Noel > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project
> Also Web parts appears to be a Microsoft term I have a shirt around here someone regarding "Parts for Java", which was a product from ParcPlace. Apache WebParts would be OK with me, but I care more about the content of the project than the name. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project
Martin Cooper wrote: Some other names were added to the wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/CreatingCommonsForWebComponents I forgot to add some names to that page: Webbies(has the same idea of weblets, but causing less confusion) Jakartlets (someone suggested we use a name without "Web" - it would be cool to be derived from Jakarta then, as Jakarta is tied to server side Java) That would probably add: - web libs - web tools to your list above. (I'm not sure how appropriate 'web libs' would be though, since I'm not sure I'd refer to, say, a compression filter as a 'library'.) Web Tools can be a problem too, as it conflicts with the Eclipse Web Tools Platform. -- Felipe - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 16:27 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: > NOTE-2 > == > Despite the suitability of this name, we are hesitant to duplicate the > Commons brand and confuse the user. even though Apache WC would definitely tickled many brits... - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project
On 8/9/05, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Prior to calling a vote tomorrow, am I missing any potential names. This > is all I dredged out of the previous mail thread. 'webapp' was mentioned > instead of 'web'; but didn't seem to get any traction. > > > web bricks > web components > web parts (NOTE-1) > web commons (NOTE-2) > Some other names were added to the wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/CreatingCommonsForWebComponents That would probably add: - web libs - web tools to your list above. (I'm not sure how appropriate 'web libs' would be though, since I'm not sure I'd refer to, say, a compression filter as a 'library'.) -- Martin Cooper > All would be describable (assuming no clashes) as: > > Apache Jakarta Web Components > Apache Web Components > > There's the option of doing W*4J or something, but we can discuss that > later I think as it's just an altered presentation of the chosen name. > > NOTE-1 > == > Web parts would clash with javawebparts.sf.net name-wise and while the > owner of this loose trademark is interested in being involved, we wouldn't > really know until the code was looked at etc. > > Also Web parts appears to be a Microsoft term (google for it); which will > definitely cause problems if our definition of Web Parts is different to > theirs. > > NOTE-2 > == > Despite the suitability of this name, we are hesitant to duplicate the > Commons brand and confuse the user. > > > Hen > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WebXxxx Naming Was: Web Components/Common project
Prior to calling a vote tomorrow, am I missing any potential names. This is all I dredged out of the previous mail thread. 'webapp' was mentioned instead of 'web'; but didn't seem to get any traction. web bricks web components web parts (NOTE-1) web commons (NOTE-2) All would be describable (assuming no clashes) as: Apache Jakarta Web Components Apache Web Components There's the option of doing W*4J or something, but we can discuss that later I think as it's just an altered presentation of the chosen name. NOTE-1 == Web parts would clash with javawebparts.sf.net name-wise and while the owner of this loose trademark is interested in being involved, we wouldn't really know until the code was looked at etc. Also Web parts appears to be a Microsoft term (google for it); which will definitely cause problems if our definition of Web Parts is different to theirs. NOTE-2 == Despite the suitability of this name, we are hesitant to duplicate the Commons brand and confuse the user. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]