Re: [gentoo-user] portage update problem

2007-12-19 Thread Redouane Boumghar
Yep thanks,

The default install was made on a 32bit profile
The reinstall with the 64 bit profile worked out well
and I am now upgrading with no problem.

Have a good day,


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Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:50:22 +0100, Redouane Boumghar wrote:
 
 and I guess I found the source and have to reinstall portage manually
 The fact is that i changed the make.profile to a 64 bits profile since
 the server I use is said to be 64 bits .
 but it's a :
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750  @ 2.66GHz
 
 This is a 64 bit processor.
 
 

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Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop

2007-12-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 00:01:45 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 ... we're talking about laptops, so a sudden loss of power is not
 something that could happen at any moment. 

Unless its battery is in the same clapped-out state as mine.

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[gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16

2007-12-19 Thread purple
after a while a built new desktop with xfce and since than i have issues
with sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 when running revdep-rebuild because revdep constandly
rebuild sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 over and over again every time i run it..
sample output from revdep-rebuild:
http://rafb.net/p/0HuBCG36.nln.html

seems its filed bug  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177925 but
still isn't resolved obviously, anyone else, with solution maybe?
thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys

2007-12-19 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
Am Mittwoch 19 Dezember 2007 10:27:28 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
 On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:56:12 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
  the only thing i can think of that might affect this is vmware or vnc.
  i'm using both a lot at the moment, so perhaps something to do with the
  keyboard grabbing is affecting x -question mark-  however closing both
  vnc and vmware don't fix it...

 I've had this happen from time to time, and always when using VMware (I
 rarely use VNC). As with you, quitting VMware doesn't help, only logging
 out and back in.

 I've no idea if the desktop is relevant, I'm using KDE.

I have this too when using vmware and it seems that somehow just the keymap 
screws up.

I run kcontrol, activate the keyboard layout switcher (with 2 languages in it) 
and once it's activated I can deactivate it again (or switch the language 
back and forth). Then it works again.


Sascha



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Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys

2007-12-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:56:12 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

 the only thing i can think of that might affect this is vmware or vnc.
 i'm using both a lot at the moment, so perhaps something to do with the
 keyboard grabbing is affecting x -question mark-  however closing both
 vnc and vmware don't fix it...

I've had this happen from time to time, and always when using VMware (I
rarely use VNC). As with you, quitting VMware doesn't help, only logging
out and back in.

I've no idea if the desktop is relevant, I'm using KDE.


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Safe to post my MAC address?

2007-12-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:40:15 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

  Damn if this isn't one of the most off-topic posts ever...   
 
 Oh, I don't know... I think I win that contest[1]
 
 [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/153681

Surely the dolphin thread is the lifetime winner of that award...


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Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys

2007-12-19 Thread Michal 'vorner' Vaner
Hello

On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 02:56:12PM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 apologies for the all-lowercase and other features of this email - but
 therein lies my problem -exclamation mark-
 
 from time to time x will just pretend that the caps lock, shift, and alt
 keys have dropped off the face of the earth... this means i can't copy n
 paste, i can't type email address, i can't switch consoles, i can't use
 any keyboard shortcuts rendering most programs useless... as has
 happened now, as you can tell by the lack of uppercase, smileys, etc in
 this email...

Well, I had this problem (and still, in some less drastic way, have). It
ignored all modificators from time to time (depends if the X started OK
or it had a bad mood).

It started with 1.4 xorg and it seems to be a little better now (shift
works every time now for me).

Something similar is in the bugzilla both at gentoo and in the upstream.

If it is possible for you, you might try downgrading to 1.3, but they
say they fixed it upstream, so it might come soon to gentoo as well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to get rid of the annoying speech bubble in Evolution?

2007-12-19 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 13:47 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 17:59 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
  My wife and I run evolution 2.12.1 .  We love the blinking letter in the
  notification area of our panel, but we absolutely can't stand the speech
  bubble that pops out of it, saying You have x new messages.  We know
  we have new messages waiting if that envelope is flashing; we don't need
  a speech bubble telling us that we have new messages.  Is there any way
  short of altering evolution's source code and recompiling to stop this
  behaviour?
 
 depends what you use to get the notification.  mail-notification?  right
 click on the blinking sod (!) and select properties.  If it says mail
 notification properties then your using mail notification ;)
 
 Anyway, under message popups you'll see enable message popups.
 
 HTH,
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   -Samuel Goldwyn

When I right click the blinking envelope, nothing happens.  No popup
menu or anything.  When I right-click the speech bubble, it goes away
until the next time I get email in.  Where is this message popups you
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Re: [gentoo-user] FS for laptop

2007-12-19 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 19 December 2007, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
 On Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2007, Philip Webb wrote:
  071218 Sergey Kobzar wrote:
   - ReiserFS looks unsupported now
 
  What do you base that assessment on ?  It's true
  that RFS 4 was going nowhere even before its creator's legal problems,
  but RFS 3 is still well-supported as a Gentoo pkg, isn't it ?

 reiserfs is still supported by its devs. It is just in maintenance-mode. No
 features added, just bug fixes. Some people confuse that with
 'unsupported'.

 And one look at the reiserfs-ml would show all the people claiming that
 reiserfs or reiser4 are unsuppored wrong.

I have been using reiserfs since 2003/04 on all sort of different boxen and 
xfs on /usr/portage on my laptop for the last two years.

I set up reiserfs for everything except /boot on a particular desktop machine, 
which had some incompatible memory modules on a super-sensitive MoBo that 
caused it to crash as often as twice a day, some times more.  Over a period 
of two years this amounts to an awful lot of crashes midstream of emerging 
packages, updating portage and what not.  I never lost any data, although 
once I ended up with all the access rights on some files being switched to 
.  More recently said box corrupted a reiserfs partition (due to some 
handfisted action of mine) while it was clearing out ccache.  A --fix-fixable 
wouldn't cut it, but --rebuild-tree got it back up on its feet in no time.

On the other hand, my laptop's xfs /usr/portage partition has corrupted itself 
irreparably at least 3-4 times so far, on a healthy battery.  That said it's 
been behaving well over the last year or so.

I don't mean to generalise with the above observations, which may well be not 
representative of the respective file systems.  However, I built a SUSE 
machine last month for a small office and I had no hesitation using reiserfs 
for all partitions including lvm.

YMMV.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop weirdness

2007-12-19 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
Have it started doing that after anyh particular installation or right after
the base system was installed? Seems to me that it is a leak of resources
(memory). Have you tried checking /var/log/messages or
/var/log/kernel/current ?

Regards,

Saffi

On 12/19/07, Wayn0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Guys/Girls,

 I have gentoo running on a few machines and recently bumped into a
 strange issue, with one of my laptops.

 I have an Acer travelmate laptop that until about a few ago was running
 the factory installed Windows XP with no problem. I installed gentoo on
 it all went smoothly (done this a few times) and every done everything I
 usually do.

 However when running the laptop (X or Console) it's very unresponsive.
 I will type a command and the text will slowly start appearing on the
 screen about a second or two later. In X the Gnome UI will lock up
 completely for seconds/mins. Obviously this is far worse when doing a
 sync or a merge.

 I have not had much time to dedicate to this machine and it's been like
 that for some time now :-( I would appreciate any suggestions.

 Things I have tried include building a completely new kernel (new
 version, new config) and rebuilding the entire system.

 Thanx,

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[gentoo-user] Laptop weirdness

2007-12-19 Thread Wayn0

Hi Guys/Girls,

I have gentoo running on a few machines and recently bumped into a 
strange issue, with one of my laptops.


I have an Acer travelmate laptop that until about a few ago was running 
the factory installed Windows XP with no problem. I installed gentoo on 
it all went smoothly (done this a few times) and every done everything I 
usually do.


However when running the laptop (X or Console) it's very unresponsive.
I will type a command and the text will slowly start appearing on the 
screen about a second or two later. In X the Gnome UI will lock up 
completely for seconds/mins. Obviously this is far worse when doing a 
sync or a merge.


I have not had much time to dedicate to this machine and it's been like 
that for some time now :-( I would appreciate any suggestions.


Things I have tried include building a completely new kernel (new 
version, new config) and rebuilding the entire system.


Thanx,

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[gentoo-user] displaying the actual order init scripts will run

2007-12-19 Thread Mike Williams
Hey all,

I'm knocking together an init script that needs to run at a very specific 
point during startup.
Is there a simple way I can see in exactly what order the init scripts would 
be run?
Don't much fancy constant rebooting just to make sure it runs at the correct 
time! Especially seeing as it's a machine about 110 miles away from me!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop weirdness

2007-12-19 Thread Wayn0

Ricardo Saffi Marques wrote:
Have it started doing that after anyh particular installation or right 
after the base system was installed? Seems to me that it is a leak of 
resources (memory). Have you tried checking /var/log/messages or 
/var/log/kernel/current ?


Regards,

Saffi


Hi,

It started right after a base install, the system is running extremely 
well otherwise... meaning no errors or weirdness whatsoever.


It feels like I am running a great system on a 486. lol!

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[gentoo-user] Correct stripe size on nvraid

2007-12-19 Thread Yahya Mohammad
I have an nforce5 motherboard set up with two disks in a RAID0
configuration. The BIOS menu shows Striping block as 64K and Striping
width as 2. What exactly does this mean? Is 64K the smallest possble
chunk size written to a single disk? I want to know what's the optimum
value for the stride parameter to pass to mke2fs -E when using ext3
with 4K blocks.

I activated the array with dmraid and looked at some of its info output.
But the various stride, stripeSize, and stripBlockSize values below
don't make sense to me:

# dmraid -s
*** Active Set
name   : nvidia_abcbdgeb
size   : 1953546240
stride : 128
type   : stripe
status : ok
subsets: 0
devs   : 2
spares : 0

# dmraid -n
/dev/sda (nvidia):
0x000 NVIDIA  
0x008 size: 30
0x00c chksum: 4068594016
0x010 version: 100
0x012 unitNumber: 0
0x013 reserved: 0
0x014 capacity: 1953546240
0x018 sectorSize: 512
0x01c productID: STRIPE   931.52G
0x02c productRevision: 100
0x030 unitFlags: 0
0x034 array-version: 6553668
0x038 array-signature[0]: 658758547
0x03c array-signature[1]: 1476699144
0x040 array-signature[2]: 414004829
0x044 array-signature[3]: 332144723
0x048 array-raidJobCode: 0
0x049 array-stripeWidth: 2
0x04a array-totalVolumes: 2
0x04b array-originalWidth: 2
0x04c array-raidLevel: 128
0x050 array-stripeBlockSize: 128
0x054 array-stripeBlockByteSize: 65536
0x058 array-stripeBlockPower: 7
0x05c array-stripeMask: 127
0x060 array-stripeSize: 256
0x064 array-stripeByteSize: 131072
0x068 array-raidJobMark 0
0x06c array-originalLevel 128
0x070 array-originalCapacity 1953546240
0x074 array-flags 0x1

/dev/sdb (nvidia):
0x000 NVIDIA  
0x008 size: 30
0x00c chksum: 4068528480
0x010 version: 100
0x012 unitNumber: 1
0x013 reserved: 0
0x014 capacity: 1953546240
0x018 sectorSize: 512
0x01c productID: STRIPE   931.52G
0x02c productRevision: 100
0x030 unitFlags: 0
0x034 array-version: 6553668
0x038 array-signature[0]: 658758547
0x03c array-signature[1]: 1476699144
0x040 array-signature[2]: 414004829
0x044 array-signature[3]: 332144723
0x048 array-raidJobCode: 0
0x049 array-stripeWidth: 2
0x04a array-totalVolumes: 2
0x04b array-originalWidth: 2
0x04c array-raidLevel: 128
0x050 array-stripeBlockSize: 128
0x054 array-stripeBlockByteSize: 65536
0x058 array-stripeBlockPower: 7
0x05c array-stripeMask: 127
0x060 array-stripeSize: 256
0x064 array-stripeByteSize: 131072
0x068 array-raidJobMark 0
0x06c array-originalLevel 128
0x070 array-originalCapacity 1953546240
0x074 array-flags 0x1

Thanks for any clarification. Any other tips for setting up the
filesystem would be welcome. I'll be mostly using this box as a media
server and some gaming.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Correct stripe size on nvraid

2007-12-19 Thread Mark Shields
On Dec 19, 2007 10:33 AM, Yahya Mohammad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have an nforce5 motherboard set up with two disks in a RAID0
 configuration. The BIOS menu shows Striping block as 64K and Striping
 width as 2. What exactly does this mean? Is 64K the smallest possble
 chunk size written to a single disk? I want to know what's the optimum
 value for the stride parameter to pass to mke2fs -E when using ext3
 with 4K blocks.

 I activated the array with dmraid and looked at some of its info output.
 But the various stride, stripeSize, and stripBlockSize values below
 don't make sense to me:

 # dmraid -s
 *** Active Set
 name   : nvidia_abcbdgeb
 size   : 1953546240
 stride : 128
 type   : stripe
 status : ok
 subsets: 0
 devs   : 2
 spares : 0

 # dmraid -n
 /dev/sda (nvidia):
 0x000 NVIDIA
 0x008 size: 30
 0x00c chksum: 4068594016
 0x010 version: 100
 0x012 unitNumber: 0
 0x013 reserved: 0
 0x014 capacity: 1953546240
 0x018 sectorSize: 512
 0x01c productID: STRIPE   931.52G
 0x02c productRevision: 100
 0x030 unitFlags: 0
 0x034 array-version: 6553668
 0x038 array-signature[0]: 658758547
 0x03c array-signature[1]: 1476699144
 0x040 array-signature[2]: 414004829
 0x044 array-signature[3]: 332144723
 0x048 array-raidJobCode: 0
 0x049 array-stripeWidth: 2
 0x04a array-totalVolumes: 2
 0x04b array-originalWidth: 2
 0x04c array-raidLevel: 128
 0x050 array-stripeBlockSize: 128
 0x054 array-stripeBlockByteSize: 65536
 0x058 array-stripeBlockPower: 7
 0x05c array-stripeMask: 127
 0x060 array-stripeSize: 256
 0x064 array-stripeByteSize: 131072
 0x068 array-raidJobMark 0
 0x06c array-originalLevel 128
 0x070 array-originalCapacity 1953546240
 0x074 array-flags 0x1

 /dev/sdb (nvidia):
 0x000 NVIDIA
 0x008 size: 30
 0x00c chksum: 4068528480
 0x010 version: 100
 0x012 unitNumber: 1
 0x013 reserved: 0
 0x014 capacity: 1953546240
 0x018 sectorSize: 512
 0x01c productID: STRIPE   931.52G
 0x02c productRevision: 100
 0x030 unitFlags: 0
 0x034 array-version: 6553668
 0x038 array-signature[0]: 658758547
 0x03c array-signature[1]: 1476699144
 0x040 array-signature[2]: 414004829
 0x044 array-signature[3]: 332144723
 0x048 array-raidJobCode: 0
 0x049 array-stripeWidth: 2
 0x04a array-totalVolumes: 2
 0x04b array-originalWidth: 2
 0x04c array-raidLevel: 128
 0x050 array-stripeBlockSize: 128
 0x054 array-stripeBlockByteSize: 65536
 0x058 array-stripeBlockPower: 7
 0x05c array-stripeMask: 127
 0x060 array-stripeSize: 256
 0x064 array-stripeByteSize: 131072
 0x068 array-raidJobMark 0
 0x06c array-originalLevel 128
 0x070 array-originalCapacity 1953546240
 0x074 array-flags 0x1

 Thanks for any clarification. Any other tips for setting up the
 filesystem would be welcome. I'll be mostly using this box as a media
 server and some gaming.
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http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Gentoo_Install_on_Bios_(Onboard)_RAID

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Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys

2007-12-19 Thread YoYo Siska
Sascha Hlusiak wrote:
 
 I have this too when using vmware and it seems that somehow just the keymap 
 screws up.
 
 I run kcontrol, activate the keyboard layout switcher (with 2 languages in 
 it) 
 and once it's activated I can deactivate it again (or switch the language 
 back and forth). Then it works again.

What about a simple setxkbmap us? (or other layout you are using)
Does that help? (You might need to emerge setxkbmap... ;)

yoyo
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[gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Grant
Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis:

http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored

Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16

2007-12-19 Thread Philip Webb
071219 purple wrote:
 i have issues with sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 when running revdep-rebuild
 because revdep constandly rebuild sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 over and over again

Revdep-rebuild seems to be an imperfect tool:
this happens to me  sometimes also with Gcc  I ignore it.
The work-around is to run 'revdep-rebuild --pretend ... ',
then do by hand whatever it says it would do, omitting the silly stuff.

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Re: [gentoo-user] brlcad users here?--RESOLVED

2007-12-19 Thread Randy Barlow
maxim wexler wrote:
 Just to clarify: What does a 'pre-compiled binary' do?
 There wasn't even an executable that I could see.

A precompiled library is just one that has already been built for you
from the source code.  So, somewhere in there should have been an
executable...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
On (19/12/07 08:43) Grant wrote:
 Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis:
 
 http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored
 
Thanks for the link.
 Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis?
 
Yes, for some 4-5 months and plan to stay with it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-19 Thread David Finkel
You should just be able to pass the nox kernel
command line option at boot, the xdm init script,
from baselayout, contains a line which checks the
kernel command line for the xdm parameter.

-David

 Original message 

  Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:16:00 +0400
  From: Yahya Mohammad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X
  To: Gentoo mailing list
  gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

  I want to add a grub menu entry that will load
  the system without
  starting gdm, just like the livecd does when the
  'nox' kernel parameter is
  passed. I poked around the CD a bit to figure out
  how that's done but
  failed. Does the kernel have to be modified to do
  this? Thanks for any
  pointers.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17:43:41 Grant wrote:

 Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis?

Yes, I did it long time ago :-)

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] displaying the actual order init scripts will run

2007-12-19 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 15:36:01 Mike Williams wrote:
 Hey all,

 I'm knocking together an init script that needs to run at a very specific
 point during startup.
 Is there a simple way I can see in exactly what order the init scripts
 would be run?
 Don't much fancy constant rebooting just to make sure it runs at the
 correct time! Especially seeing as it's a machine about 110 miles away from
 me!

If the init-script needs to run after a specific (set of) other init-script(s) 
and/or before a specific (set of) other init-script(s), you can add these to 
to the before and after lists respectively.

As example, the following is copied from the /etc/init.d/xdm file:

---
depend() {
need localmount

# this should start as early as possible
# we can't do 'before *' as that breaks it
# (#139824) Start after ypbind and autofs for network authentication
# (#145219) Could use lirc mouse as input device
# (#70689 comment #92) Start after consolefont to avoid display 
corruption
after bootmisc readahead-list ypbind autofs openvpn gpm netmount lircd 
consolefont
before alsasound

# Start before X
use acpid consolekit hald xfs
}
---

This will allow you to disable init-scripts that you no longer need, without 
having your init-script becoming disabled.

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Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-19 Thread Jeff Cranmer
I have checked, and ndiswrapper and  the rtl8187 package were uninstalled.
I think that the problem I have may be more basic.

The card I have is an 8197, not an 8187.  I wonder if this is part of the 
problem.  Could it be that the kernel driver does not support the 8197?

The attached weblink suggests that this may be the case:
http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/blog/2007/09/26/no-more-vista/

Does anyone know how I can locate the equivalent code in the kernel and 
perhaps perform a similar modification?

Thanks

Jeff
 


On Monday 17 December 2007 06:26:41 pm Jeff Cranmer wrote:
 I have rtl8187 compiled into the kernel.
 I could try compiling it as a module, then loading it via modules.autoload,
 to see if that gives any alternative response.  Perhaps the first step
 would be not to put it in modules.autoload and modprobe it to more easily
 see the response.

 Since I was playing around with ndiswrapper and the rtl8187 portage
 package, it's possible that they may be messing things up, and I can't
 remember whether or not I unmerged them.  I'll check whether these packages
 are still present and get rid of them if they are.

 I'm away from my laptop at the moment, so can't run the dmesg command you
 suggested until tomorrow evening.  I'll let you know whether my activities
 reveal anything interesting then.

 Thanks

 Jeff


 -Original Message-

 From: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Dec 16, 2007 8:13 PM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup
 
 On 16 Dec 2007, at 22:56, Mick wrote:
  On Sunday 16 December 2007, Stroller wrote:
  On 16 Dec 2007, at 17:14, Mick wrote:
  On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
  Running the command 'dmesg | grep rtl8187' after reboot returns
  the message
  usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187
 
  All I get for iwconfig is
  lo  no wireless extensions
  eth0no wireless extensions.
 
  This means that the driver has not been loaded yet.
 
  Looking at Jeff's previous post (quoted added above) that's not a
  conclusion I'd jump to.
 
  Oops!  Sorry, didn't see that.  If the driver is loaded then why
  isn't an
  interface showing up?
 
 Good question. I agree that without seeing that statement I might
 
 well have thought the same thing. That's why I wrote:
  But it would have helped if Jeff had posted `dmesg | grep rtl8187 
  iwconfig` in the same post to prove the point.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Network Trouble

2007-12-19 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
On Dec 18, 2007 11:04 AM, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hilco Wijbenga wrote:
  Yes, I have a PCI sound card and it definitely works. My Oggs are
  still playing. :-)

 Does the soundcard also work in the slots that you tried the NICs
 in?  (If the soundcard doesn't work there, don't try the NIC in the
 original slot of the soundcard, unless you're prepared blowing up
 that slot too.)

Yep, the soundcard also works in the slot where I used to have the
NIC. I also tried lspci (just to be sure) and it works. It even
recognises the NIC just fine.

I'm starting to wonder if I have two broken NICs after all. It seems
very unlikely to me, however. Then again, a new NIC doesn't cost much.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread b.n.
Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto:
 On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17:43:41 Grant wrote:
 
 Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis?
 
 Yes, I did it long time ago :-)

I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising.
I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can
someone confirm it? It would be useful for a transition.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Grant
  Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis:
 
  http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored
 
 Thanks for the link.

It really got the meta-wheels turning for me.  I found especially
interesting the fact that Paludis's use on Gentoo is crippled due to
incompatibilities between it and Portage.  This is, of course, brought
about by the Portage tree.

Also:

What are your plans regarding the future of Paludis as a Gentoo
related technology should Paludis for various reason reach the event
horizon of being able to provide a completely new GNU/Linux
Distribution both in the technical and social framework meaning of the
term?

I don't have a problem with supporting multiple distributions with
Paludis. I know that a couple of people are using Paludis for small,
internal-use-only distributions where they need things that Gentoo
can't deliver. Supporting other distributions or formats doesn't mean
dropping Gentoo or ebuilds.

And:

Or is there interest in creating from scratch a distribution based
entirely on Paludis?

I've heard a rumour that some people are experimenting with a
replacement tree that uses functionality offered by Paludis but not
Portage (not so much to create a Paludis-based distribution as to
create a better tree that Portage could theoretically support at some
point). But there's nothing open to the public just now.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16

2007-12-19 Thread purple
i dont find that soulution as the elegant one, must be some logical solution
for that on java developer side.. everything worked excellent on KDE, and
just after i did a clean install with XFCE this problem popped up..
btw revdep-rebuild never caused me a trouble, ever..
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[gentoo-user] ldap authentication and apache 2.2 problems

2007-12-19 Thread Derek Bodner
Hey guys,
Having some problems setting up ldap authentication with apache 2.2,
something that worked previously with 2.0. I have the following setup:
[ebuild R ] www-servers/apache-2.2.6 USE=ldap ssl -debug -doc -mpm-event
-mpm-itk -mpm-peruser -mpm-prefork -mpm-worker -no-suexec (-selinux)
-static-modules -threads 0 kB

[ebuild R ] dev-libs/apr-util-1.2.10 USE=berkdb gdbm ldap -doc -mysql
-postgres -sqlite -sqlite3 0 kB

And in /etc/conf.d/apache2:
APACHE2_OPTS=-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D FCGID -D USERDIR -D PHP5 -D LDAP -D
AUTH_LDAP


However, when I add the following to a vhost:
AuthType Basic
AuthName blah
AuthLDAPEnabled on
AuthLDAPURL ldap://ldap_ip/ou=People,dc=mydomain,dc=com?uid?one;
AuthLDAPGroupAttribute memberUid
AuthLDAPGroupAttributeIsDN off
Require valid-user

I get the following error:
Invalid command 'AuthLDAPEnabled', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module
not included in the server configuration

What do I need to do to set this up with apache 2.2?

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[gentoo-user] hello there!

2007-12-19 Thread Jesús Abidan Ramos Salas

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Network Trouble

2007-12-19 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Hilco Wijbenga wrote:
 I'm starting to wonder if I have two broken NICs after all.

Do they work when you plug them into your firewall box?  If they do, 
then it can really be only the cable.  Are you certain that you're 
not using a cross-over cable when you need a straight one, or the 
other way around?  And are you certain the cable is not subtly 
broken?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Naga Toro
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17.43.41 Grant wrote:
 Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis:

 http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensor
ed

excellent is a bit much... Seems like a propaganda pice to me.
That said I did find paludis a bit  hard to use but that might have been 
because it was quite some timeago I tried it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] hello there!

2007-12-19 Thread Sven Albrecht

On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 13:32 -0600, Jesús Abidan Ramos Salas wrote:
 i am new at this list... i hope i can help

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Mark Shields
On Dec 19, 2007 2:46 PM, Naga Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17.43.41 Grant wrote:
  Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis:
 
 
 http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensor
 ed

 excellent is a bit much... Seems like a propaganda pice to me.
 That said I did find paludis a bit  hard to use but that might have been
 because it was quite some timeago I tried it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
On (19/12/07 20:05) b.n. wrote:
 Dirk Heinrichs ha scritto:
  On Wednesday 19 December 2007 17:43:41 Grant wrote:
  
  Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis?
  
  Yes, I did it long time ago :-)
 
 I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising.
 I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can
 someone confirm it? It would be useful for a transition.
 
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Hi,

Yes, they *can* coexist well, but i've some remarks.
The config is rather different but concepts remain the same.
The paludis vdb-entries have more info but are(were) compatible.
Watch out for some scripts (perl-cleaner, claw-mail, etc.) in which the
use of portage/emerge is embedded. Put 'paludis' as USE-flag.
Have gone to paludis then went back to portage w/o major problems.
No support for binary packages yet, some warning/downgrades from the tree.
Now using mainly paludis.
Please don't consider this 'anti-portage', but just as my choice.
For me both are good, only paludis has more features (even now).
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Zsitvai János
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising.
 I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can
 someone confirm it? It would be useful for a transition.

It works just fine. :) Later versions have the ability to use portage
configuration files directly, but that makes you lose some advantages,
like per-repository masking or unmasking of packages. I use a small
script to keep portage and paludis config files in sync, so I can use
whichever I want. 

The thing I like about it most is how it keeps overlays separate, so
they don't override eclasses globally, or that you can even specify
'underlays' that are only used if neither the official portage nor any
other overlays carry a specific package. 

And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me
over all over again. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:45:49 -0500 (EST), David Finkel wrote:

 You should just be able to pass the nox kernel
 command line option at boot, the xdm init script,
 from baselayout, contains a line which checks the
 kernel command line for the xdm parameter.

This works, but because nox stays in /proc/cmdline, any attempt to run
xdm later will fail. The only way to get back into X is to reboot.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?

2007-12-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 05:53:18AM +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote

 Another thing you can try: add something you want to be done (like switching 
 to a vt or a certain sysrq-key) to your acpid config and let acpid run. If 
 the keyboard hangs, just push the power button ...
 
 for example:
 event=.*
 action=chvt 1
 
 in /etc/acpi/events/default switches to vt1 if you push the power button. 
 Pretty usefull, if X is in deep shit mode again.

ELVIS
Thank you, thank you, thank you verrry verrry much!
/ELVIS

  This is a wonderful idea, and I have it implemented now.  For the
benefit of anyone else who's interested, here are the steps I took

as root
cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig
  Power management options (ACPI, APM)  ---
[*] Power Management support
ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
  [*] ACPI Support
  *   Button

Compile and re-boot into new kernel

emerge acpi

change the uncommented lines in /etc/acpi/events/default to read
event=.*
action=chvt 1

execute the commands...
/etc/init.d/acpid start  (to start acpid now)
rc-update add default acpid  (to automatically start acpid at future bootups)

  Notes:
  - When testing, I suggets executing sync as a precaution, just
before pressing the big power button.

  - PCs also have a smaller power button which is hard-wired to shutdown
or re-boot.  Do not press that button.

  - After editing /etc/acpi/events/default run the command
/etc/init.d/acpid restart
to force acpid to read in the new config

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Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-19 Thread Jeff Cranmer
I've tried to run through the instructions at
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187.

The kernel is configured per that guide, and I get the message:
usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187

When I try to run ifconfig wlan0 up, however, I get:
wlan0: unknown interface: no such device

I get the same result if I run ifconfig wlan up (net.wlan is the symlink that 
I set up in /etc/init.d)

The wireless section of my /etc/conf.d/net file reads
mode_wlan=managed
wpa_supplicant_wlan=-Dwext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant_RTL8187.conf
config_wlan=( dhcp )
dhcp_wlan=-R -G

wpa_supplicant has been emerged.

Jeff


On Sunday 16 December 2007 12:14:42 pm Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
  All I get for iwconfig is
  lo  no wireless extensions
  eth0no wireless extensions.

 This means that the driver has not been loaded yet.  In generic terms
 you'll need to install the necessary driver for your WiFi device (either
 the new one in the kernel or emerge net-wireless/rtl8187, or ndiswrapper
 and the MS Windows driver).  If you build the driver as a module then you
 need to modprobe -v rtl8187, while you keep an eye on the logs to see how
 things go (tail -f /var/log/messages).  You have seen this, right?

 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187

  I think I need some more info in /etc/conf.d/net, and need somehow to
  create the necessary /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 or whatever driver.
 
  The only 'net.anything' drivers present at the moment are net.lo and
  net.eth0

 You will of course have to manually create a symlink between net.wlan0 -
 net.lo (or whatever your new WiFi device is recognised as by the kernel) so
 that you can bring it up by running /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start.  But this
 is only necessary for autoloading the driver through the runlevel scripts. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?

2007-12-19 Thread Walter Dnes
   Aaaargh, a typo in my instructions

On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 05:58:25PM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote

 rc-update add default acpid  (to automatically start acpid at future bootups)
Should have read...
  rc-update add acpid default

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Re: [gentoo-user] How cam I get system to recognize MagicSysReq while in X gui?

2007-12-19 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2007, Walter Dnes wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 05:53:18AM +0100, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote

  Another thing you can try: add something you want to be done (like
  switching to a vt or a certain sysrq-key) to your acpid config and let
  acpid run. If the keyboard hangs, just push the power button ...
 
  for example:
  event=.*
  action=chvt 1
 
  in /etc/acpi/events/default switches to vt1 if you push the power button.
  Pretty usefull, if X is in deep shit mode again.

 ELVIS
 Thank you, thank you, thank you verrry verrry much!
 /ELVIS

   This is a wonderful idea, and I have it implemented now.  For the
 benefit of anyone else who's interested, here are the steps I took


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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread b.n.
Mark Shields ha scritto:

 Portage has proved more than adequate for my needs.  Paladis doesn't
 seem like anything I need or want.

Well, Portage is adequate for my needs too, and I've never tried Paludis
 but the very continue-on-failure and underlays things look like,
for example, two small but dramatically useful features. It seems
interesting. Why don't you find it interesting? I'm just curious.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is there a way to get rid of the annoying speech bubble in Evolution?

2007-12-19 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 07:35 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
 On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 13:47 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 17:59 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
   My wife and I run evolution 2.12.1 .  We love the blinking letter in the
   notification area of our panel, but we absolutely can't stand the speech
   bubble that pops out of it

[snip]

 When I right click the blinking envelope, nothing happens.  No popup
 menu or anything.  When I right-click the speech bubble, it goes away
 until the next time I get email in.  Where is this message popups you
 mentioned?

OK, the only way I can think of to get what you want is this:

 1. disable the evolution built-in notification area applet (edit 
plugins  uncheck mail notification
 2. install mail-notification (with at least the evo use flag.
You'll need at least v4.0 maybe even v4.1)
 3. configure mail-notification.  Start it once, then save your
gnome session and it will start next time you log in.  Use
mailbox type Evolution and then you can select explicit
folders for which you want to be notified.

HTH!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 19 December 2007 21:37:38 Rumen Yotov wrote:
 Watch out for some scripts (perl-cleaner, claw-mail, etc.) in which the
 use of portage/emerge is embedded. Put 'paludis' as USE-flag.

Unless you use a crappy, unsupported overlay no such use flag exists. Kind of 
curious how that relates to claw-mail anyway. Python-updater on the other 
hand supports all three package managers in the tree and just defaults to 
using portage. :P

And yes, I'm a Paludis user (for over a year now).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16

2007-12-19 Thread Dale
Philip Webb wrote:
 071219 purple wrote:
   
 i have issues with sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 when running revdep-rebuild
 because revdep constandly rebuild sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 over and over again
 

 Revdep-rebuild seems to be an imperfect tool:
 this happens to me  sometimes also with Gcc  I ignore it.
 The work-around is to run 'revdep-rebuild --pretend ... ',
 then do by hand whatever it says it would do, omitting the silly stuff.

   

I have had mine showing it needed to recompile gcc for a very long time
now.  There is also a bug for it too.  It has been there for a really
long time.  There are hacks to work around the bug but some don't like
the hack and neither did I.  I just omit gcc and do whatever else it says.

It's not a perfect tool but it works, mostly anyway.  ;-)

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 22:42 +0100, Zsitvai János wrote:

 And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me
 over all over again. :)

I've been wondering for a long time why portage doesn't continue with
building other packages when one fails - so long as deps are met why
stop?

Acutally, while I'm on the subject of features - here's another one I'd
like to see:  parallel merges instead of parallel makes.  Since many
packages have problems with MAKEOPTS, it doesn't help with configure
scripts anyway and other parts of the process, why not spawn 2 or 3
emerges automatically?  Each one could do it's own tree of packages
and dependencies that don't affect the other...  would be nice IMHO.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16

2007-12-19 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2007, purple wrote:
 after a while a built new desktop with xfce and since than i have issues
 with sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 when running revdep-rebuild because revdep constandly
 rebuild sun-jdk-1.4.2.16 over and over again every time i run it..
 sample output from revdep-rebuild:
 http://rafb.net/p/0HuBCG36.nln.html

 seems its filed bug  http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=177925 but
 still isn't resolved obviously, anyone else, with solution maybe?
 thanks

put this in your make.conf:
SEARCH_DIRS_MASK=/opt /home

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Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16

2007-12-19 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 20 December 2007 02:43:04 Dale wrote:
 I have had mine showing it needed to recompile gcc for a very long time
 now.  There is also a bug for it too.  It has been there for a really
 long time.  There are hacks to work around the bug but some don't like
 the hack and neither did I.  I just omit gcc and do whatever else it says.

 It's not a perfect tool but it works, mostly anyway.  ;-)

It's not a hack. But anyway.. Do you actually need gcj? Otherwise just disable 
USE=gcj and be done with it...

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Re: [gentoo-user] hello there!

2007-12-19 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:32:18 -0600
Jesús Abidan Ramos Salas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i am new at this list... i hope i can help

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 20 December 2007 02:46:20 Iain Buchanan wrote:
  And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me
  over all over again. :)

 I've been wondering for a long time why portage doesn't continue with
 building other packages when one fails - so long as deps are met why
 stop?

Because the current resolver in Portage isn't powerfull enough to know if the 
deps are met.

 Acutally, while I'm on the subject of features - here's another one I'd
 like to see:  parallel merges instead of parallel makes.

It's planned (both for Portage and Paludis). For Portage there's even a bug 
with a patch which isn't considered suitable for inclusion in Portage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-19 Thread Jeff Cranmer
I made significant progress today.

I manually edited the file /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8187_dev.c

There is a static structure near the top of the code,

static struct usb_device_id rtl8187_table[] __devinitdata = {
/* Realtek */
{USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8187)},
/* netgear */
{USB_DEVICE(0x0846, 0x6100)},
{USB_DEVICE(0x0846, 0x6a00)},
{}
};

I added the line
{USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8197)},
in the /* Realtek */ area of the structure, then ran 
make clean, then 
make  make modules_install etc.

After rebooting into the modified kernel, I now have iwmaster0 and iwlan0 
lines showing up when I type iwconfig.

The applicable lines of iwconfig are

wmaster0no wireless extensions

wlan0   IEEE 802.11g ESSID=mynetworkESSID
Mode:ManagedFrequency=2.417GHz  Access Point: 
Not associated
Retry min limit 7   RTS thr:off Fragment 
thr=2346B
Encryption key:not telling you
Link Quality:0  Signal Level:0  Noise 
Level:0
Rx Invalid nwid:0   Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx 
invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0  Missed 
beacon:0

I'm not all the way there yet, but this is significant progress.

wpa_supplicant gui still is blank, with the message 'could not get status from 
WPA_supplicant', but at least now I have an interface showing up

It appears that it cannot find an access point.  The access point is active, 
as I can connect my work laptop to it, but so far, the laptop can't see it.

Any further advice gratefully received.

Jeff


On Wednesday 19 December 2007 06:09:50 pm Jeff Cranmer wrote:
 I've tried to run through the instructions at
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187.

 The kernel is configured per that guide, and I get the message:
 usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187

 When I try to run ifconfig wlan0 up, however, I get:
 wlan0: unknown interface: no such device

 I get the same result if I run ifconfig wlan up (net.wlan is the symlink
 that I set up in /etc/init.d)

 The wireless section of my /etc/conf.d/net file reads
 mode_wlan=managed
 wpa_supplicant_wlan=-Dwext -c
 /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant_RTL8187.conf config_wlan=( dhcp )
 dhcp_wlan=-R -G

 wpa_supplicant has been emerged.

 Jeff

 On Sunday 16 December 2007 12:14:42 pm Mick wrote:
  On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
   All I get for iwconfig is
   lono wireless extensions
   eth0  no wireless extensions.
 
  This means that the driver has not been loaded yet.  In generic terms
  you'll need to install the necessary driver for your WiFi device (either
  the new one in the kernel or emerge net-wireless/rtl8187, or ndiswrapper
  and the MS Windows driver).  If you build the driver as a module then you
  need to modprobe -v rtl8187, while you keep an eye on the logs to see how
  things go (tail -f /var/log/messages).  You have seen this, right?
 
  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187
 
   I think I need some more info in /etc/conf.d/net, and need somehow to
   create the necessary /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 or whatever driver.
  
   The only 'net.anything' drivers present at the moment are net.lo and
   net.eth0
 
  You will of course have to manually create a symlink between net.wlan0 -
  net.lo (or whatever your new WiFi device is recognised as by the kernel)
  so that you can bring it up by running /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 start.  But
  this is only necessary for autoloading the driver through the runlevel
  scripts. To try it out follow the instructions in the Wiki page above.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16

2007-12-19 Thread Dale
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 On Thursday 20 December 2007 02:43:04 Dale wrote:
   
 I have had mine showing it needed to recompile gcc for a very long time
 now.  There is also a bug for it too.  It has been there for a really
 long time.  There are hacks to work around the bug but some don't like
 the hack and neither did I.  I just omit gcc and do whatever else it says.

 It's not a perfect tool but it works, mostly anyway.  ;-)
 

 It's not a hack. But anyway.. Do you actually need gcj? Otherwise just 
 disable 
 USE=gcj and be done with it...

   

The last I saw was making some sort of links manually.  I'll give that
-gcj a try tho.  Can I just disable it on gcc or does it have to be
global?  Also, what is it anyway?  I did a euse -i gcj but it may as
well be greek.

Thanks

Dale

:-)  :-)


[gentoo-user] performance enhancement using x86_64-pc-linux-gnu?

2007-12-19 Thread Richard Marzan
Hello,


Today, I thought about changing the CHOST, even if it means performing
a fresh install, to the one in the subject line for performance
improvement. Am I wrong to assume that changing the CHOST to
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu and setting CFLAGS to athlon64 will offer faster
operation of apps? would it be sufficient to use i686-pc-linux-gnu as
the CHOST and use Athlon64 as the -march?

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Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-19 Thread Jeff Cranmer
Final piece of info for the day.

When I ran dhcpcd wlan0, I get
Error, wlan0: timed out
Error, wlan0: lease information file '/var/lib/dhcpcd/dhcpcd-wlan0.info' does 
not exist

Any assistance gratefully received

Jeff


On Wednesday 19 December 2007 09:47:55 pm Jeff Cranmer wrote:
 I made significant progress today.

 I manually edited the file
 /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8187_dev.c

 There is a static structure near the top of the code,

 static struct usb_device_id rtl8187_table[] __devinitdata = {
   /* Realtek */
   {USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8187)},
   /* netgear */
   {USB_DEVICE(0x0846, 0x6100)},
   {USB_DEVICE(0x0846, 0x6a00)},
   {}
 };

 I added the line
   {USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8197)},
 in the /* Realtek */ area of the structure, then ran
   make clean, then
   make  make modules_install etc.

 After rebooting into the modified kernel, I now have iwmaster0 and iwlan0
 lines showing up when I type iwconfig.

 The applicable lines of iwconfig are

 wmaster0  no wireless extensions

 wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID=mynetworkESSID
   Mode:ManagedFrequency=2.417GHz  Access Point: 
 Not associated
   Retry min limit 7   RTS thr:off Fragment 
 thr=2346B
   Encryption key:not telling you
   Link Quality:0  Signal Level:0  Noise 
 Level:0
   Rx Invalid nwid:0   Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx 
 invalid frag:0
   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0  Missed 
 beacon:0

 I'm not all the way there yet, but this is significant progress.

 wpa_supplicant gui still is blank, with the message 'could not get status
 from WPA_supplicant', but at least now I have an interface showing up

 It appears that it cannot find an access point.  The access point is
 active, as I can connect my work laptop to it, but so far, the laptop can't
 see it.

 Any further advice gratefully received.

 Jeff

 On Wednesday 19 December 2007 06:09:50 pm Jeff Cranmer wrote:
  I've tried to run through the instructions at
  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187.
 
  The kernel is configured per that guide, and I get the message:
  usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl8187
 
  When I try to run ifconfig wlan0 up, however, I get:
  wlan0: unknown interface: no such device
 
  I get the same result if I run ifconfig wlan up (net.wlan is the symlink
  that I set up in /etc/init.d)
 
  The wireless section of my /etc/conf.d/net file reads
  mode_wlan=managed
  wpa_supplicant_wlan=-Dwext -c
  /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant_RTL8187.conf config_wlan=( dhcp )
  dhcp_wlan=-R -G
 
  wpa_supplicant has been emerged.
 
  Jeff
 
  On Sunday 16 December 2007 12:14:42 pm Mick wrote:
   On Sunday 16 December 2007, Jeff Cranmer wrote:
All I get for iwconfig is
lo  no wireless extensions
eth0no wireless extensions.
  
   This means that the driver has not been loaded yet.  In generic terms
   you'll need to install the necessary driver for your WiFi device
   (either the new one in the kernel or emerge net-wireless/rtl8187, or
   ndiswrapper and the MS Windows driver).  If you build the driver as a
   module then you need to modprobe -v rtl8187, while you keep an eye on
   the logs to see how things go (tail -f /var/log/messages).  You have
   seen this, right?
  
   http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_rtl8187
  
I think I need some more info in /etc/conf.d/net, and need somehow to
create the necessary /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 or whatever driver.
   
The only 'net.anything' drivers present at the moment are net.lo and
net.eth0
  
   You will of course have to manually create a symlink between net.wlan0
   - net.lo (or whatever your new WiFi device is recognised as by the
   kernel) so that you can bring it up by running /etc/init.d/net.wlan0
   start.  But this is only necessary for autoloading the driver through
   the runlevel scripts. To try it out follow the instructions in the Wiki
   page above.
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[gentoo-user] Emerge multiple-versions-in-same-slot weirdness with X11 libs...

2007-12-19 Thread Walter Dnes
  I just did an emerge --sync followed by an ask fetchonly, which I
do to avoid unpleasant surprises.  Emerge is sending the following
message to stderr.  I don't like the concept of masking out stuff for an
ordinary emerge.  Any idea what gives?

### begin screen capture ###
[m3000][root][~] emerge --ask --update --world --deep --fetchonlyx

!!! Multiple versions within a single package slot have been
!!! pulled into the dependency graph:

('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.2', 'nomerge') pulled in by
  ('installed', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r2', 'nomerge')

('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.4', 'merge') pulled in by
  ('installed', '/', 'www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.11', 'nomerge')
  ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/libXft-2.1.12', 'nomerge')
  ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/libXrandr-1.2.1', 'nomerge')
  ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/pango-1.18.3', 'nomerge')
  ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-libs/libXcursor-1.1.9', 'merge')
  ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/cairo-1.4.12', 'nomerge')
  ('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/gtk+-2.12.1-r2', 'nomerge')
  ('installed', '/', 'x11-apps/xdpyinfo-1.0.2', 'nomerge')
  ('installed', '/', 'x11-misc/googleearth-4.2.198.2451', 'nomerge')

It may be possible to solve this problem by using package.mask to
prevent one of those packages from being selected. However, it is also
possible that conflicting dependencies exist such that they are
impossible to satisfy simultaneously. If such a conflict exists in the
dependencies of two different packages, then those packages can not be
installed simultaneously.

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page
or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Persistent revdep-rebuild issues: sun-jdk-1.4.2.16

2007-12-19 Thread Randy Barlow
Dale wrote:
 I'll give that
 -gcj a try tho.  Can I just disable it on gcc or does it have to be
 global?  Also, what is it anyway?

I would disable it globally for now.  gcj is an open source
implementation of Java, but last I read about it (maybe like 3/4 a year
ago) it wasn't very complete yet.  I would just use Sun for now...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Booting up without X

2007-12-19 Thread forgottenwizard
On 22:37 Wed 19 Dec , Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:45:49 -0500 (EST), David Finkel wrote:
 
  You should just be able to pass the nox kernel
  command line option at boot, the xdm init script,
  from baselayout, contains a line which checks the
  kernel command line for the xdm parameter.
 
 This works, but because nox stays in /proc/cmdline, any attempt to run
 xdm later will fail. The only way to get back into X is to reboot.
 
 
 -- 
 Neil Bothwick
 
 Does fuzzy logic tickle?

How about running startx, or modifying the script to see if boot time
was within X of the current time (seeing if this IS boot, or some other
time), or maybe (I don't run xdm, or any display manager for that
matter) you could just pass an arg to xdm to make it start.

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Re: [gentoo-user] hello there!

2007-12-19 Thread forgottenwizard
On 20:55 Wed 19 Dec , Sven Albrecht wrote:
 
 On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 13:32 -0600, Jesús Abidan Ramos Salas wrote:
  i am new at this list... i hope i can help
 
 Me too, at first I'm basically reading and learning ^^
 
 
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Same here. I've been subscribed for awhile (maybe afew months), and have
only just started to help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Richard Marzan

On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 22:42 +0100, Zsitvai János wrote:
 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I'd like to try Paludis, looks very promising.
  I think I've read that Portage and Paludis can coexist happily. Can
  someone confirm it? It would be useful for a transition.
 
 It works just fine. :) Later versions have the ability to use portage
 configuration files directly, but that makes you lose some advantages,
 like per-repository masking or unmasking of packages. I use a small
 script to keep portage and paludis config files in sync, so I can use
 whichever I want. 
 
 The thing I like about it most is how it keeps overlays separate, so
 they don't override eclasses globally, or that you can even specify
 'underlays' that are only used if neither the official portage nor any
 other overlays carry a specific package. 
 
 And the recent addition of the option '--continue-on-failure' won me
 over all over again. :)
 
 János Zsitvai



May i have that script? I assume it's GPLed :-)

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell PowerEdge 2600 / 2800? AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver?

2007-12-19 Thread Stroller
Just a quick question to see if any of the list members are using  
Gentoo - or any other Linux distro for that matter - on Dell  
PowerEdge 2600 or 2800 servers?


A site I manage has had from new a 2800 running Windows, which we're  
quite happy with (the 2800, that is, not Windows ;). We really need  
new hardware for our Linux-based mailserver  similar systems seem to  
be quite affordable on the secondhand market, and it would make quite  
a bit of sense for us to use one of these.


I haven't done much digging yet, but thought a quick show of hands  
here might save some time. It looks like the SCSI hot-swap / RAID  
controller uses an AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver which is (?) part of the  
main kernel - anyone know if that does status updates (dead-hard  
drives c) to the syslog? Does it depend on any userland utilities  
that are only available as RPM or whatever?


I know RedHat /or Suse are supported on this machine, but I've been  
using Gentoo so long now I find it hard to use them thar binary  
distros. It'd also be nice if power-supply failures were logged in  
the same way - anyone know? I've had some experience in the past with  
a Compaq Proliant 6500 and certain utilities for that would only  
report problems via SNMP, which was a bit of a pain.


Cheers,

Stroller.
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Re: [gentoo-user] performance enhancement using x86_64-pc-linux-gnu?

2007-12-19 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2007, Richard Marzan wrote:
 Hello,


   Today, I thought about changing the CHOST, even if it means performing
 a fresh install, to the one in the subject line for performance
 improvement. Am I wrong to assume that changing the CHOST to
 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu and setting CFLAGS to athlon64 will offer faster
 operation of apps? 

depends on the apps. My overall experience was positive but that my vary.


 would it be sufficient to use i686-pc-linux-gnu as 
 the CHOST and use Athlon64 as the -march?

no. i686 is 32bit.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Zsitvai János
Richard Marzan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 May i have that script? I assume it's GPLed :-)

Honestly, calling it a script is an embellishment. 

Perhaps phrasing it as 'something that keeps the faster moving parts of
configuration in sync' would have been better.

echo '*/* x86'  /etc/paludis/keywords.conf
grep -h -v \# /etc/portage/package.keywords/* | grep \/ | awk -F  '{print $1 
 x86 ~x86}' | sort -u  /etc/paludis/keywords.conf
cat /etc/paludis/package_mask.conf | grep -v '::' | grep -v '#' | sort -u  
/etc/portage/package.mask/paludis
cat /etc/paludis/package_unmask.conf | grep -v '::' | grep -v '#' | sort -u  
/etc/portage/package.unmask/paludis
cat /etc/paludis/use.conf | grep -v '::' | grep -v '\*\/\*' | grep -v '#' | 
sort -u  /etc/portage/package.use/paludis

That's all there is to it, and it makes a lot of assumptions: that
you've already configured both paludis and portage, that you consider
/etc/paludis authoritative on everything but package.keywords, that
you're running a mixed x86 and ~x86 system, and probably others I can't
spot. You also have to sync the global use flags by hand in make.conf
ans use.conf, as well as manage adding/removing overlays by hand, and it
won't touch CFLAGS settings either, etc.

Another thing to keep in mind is that if you package unmask/mask a
package from a certain repository only with cat/pkg::repo, portage won't
know about it and probably not do what you want.

János Zsitvai
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Vasiliy G Tolstov

Grant wrote:

Here is an excellent interview with Ciaran McCreesh about Paludis:

http://lab.obsethryl.eu/content/paludis-gentoo-and-ciaran-mccreesh-uncensored

Has anyone here switched from Portage to Paludis?

- Grant
  

i'm completely delete portage and use paludis.
work's fine ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] realtek 8197 wireless card setup

2007-12-19 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

I cannot really go into details, but maybe I'm competent enough to make
some notes on this:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:47:55 -0500
Jeff Cranmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I manually edited the file /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8187_dev.c
 [...]
 I added the line
   {USB_DEVICE(0x0bda, 0x8197)},
 in the /* Realtek */ area of the structure, then ran 
   make clean, then 
   make  make modules_install etc.
 
 After rebooting into the modified kernel, I now have iwmaster0 and iwlan0 
 lines showing up when I type iwconfig.

Although that's a good sign, it does not guarantee that the driver
fully supports your device. However, the kernel log should now have
changed significantly and the driver might now tell you there if it's
fully operable. ifconfig showing the correct MAC is also a good sign.

As a side note: My suggestion would be to play with the different
drivers of wpa_supplicant. DHCP won't work if there's no correct WPA
setup anyway.

-hwh
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excellent Paludis interview

2007-12-19 Thread Rumen Yotov
Bo Ørsted Andresen написа:
 On Wednesday 19 December 2007 21:37:38 Rumen Yotov wrote:
   
 Watch out for some scripts (perl-cleaner, claw-mail, etc.) in which the
 use of portage/emerge is embedded. Put 'paludis' as USE-flag.
 

 Unless you use a crappy, unsupported overlay no such use flag exists. Kind of 
 curious how that relates to claw-mail anyway. Python-updater on the other 
 hand supports all three package managers in the tree and just defaults to 
 using portage. :P

 And yes, I'm a Paludis user (for over a year now).
   
Hi,
Regarding claws-mail there's a script to rebuild it's plugins - see elogs.
Since i first tried paludis-0.2.1, may still have some old use info
(laziness) about paludis USE-flag (IIRC revdep-rebuild  portage-utils,
etc.had it).
Haven't tried/needed python-updater so omitted it.
There's also a paludis-extras overlay, which is rather separated from
official paludis but have some nice things (and problems sometimes ;-).
Regards, Rumen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell PowerEdge 2600 / 2800? AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver?

2007-12-19 Thread kashani

Stroller wrote:
Just a quick question to see if any of the list members are using Gentoo 
- or any other Linux distro for that matter - on Dell PowerEdge 2600 or 
2800 servers?


A site I manage has had from new a 2800 running Windows, which we're 
quite happy with (the 2800, that is, not Windows ;). We really need new 
hardware for our Linux-based mailserver  similar systems seem to be 
quite affordable on the secondhand market, and it would make quite a bit 
of sense for us to use one of these.


I haven't done much digging yet, but thought a quick show of hands here 
might save some time. It looks like the SCSI hot-swap / RAID controller 
uses an AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver which is (?) part of the main kernel - 
anyone know if that does status updates (dead-hard drives c) to the 
syslog? Does it depend on any userland utilities that are only available 
as RPM or whatever?


I know RedHat /or Suse are supported on this machine, but I've been 
using Gentoo so long now I find it hard to use them thar binary distros. 
It'd also be nice if power-supply failures were logged in the same way - 
anyone know? I've had some experience in the past with a Compaq Proliant 
6500 and certain utilities for that would only report problems via SNMP, 
which was a bit of a pain.


	I used Redhat, Fedora, and Gentoo on 2550, 1650, 2650, 1750, 1850, and 
2850 PowerEdge servers. Never had an issue and never had driver issues 
other than early tg3 ether driver problems with Redhat 8. I'd assume the 
2800 and 2600s are roughly the same.
	Other than the CPU/RAM the main different between 2650, 2850, and 2950 
was the SCSI card. I'd choose the 2850 over the 2650 given a choice for 
anything with heavy I/O and the 2950 are noticeably faster than the 2850 
for our db stuff.


The SCSI on 2850's should be megaraid and you want the megaraid-new 
driver and Linux kernels would have issues if you tried to build both 
new and old so just pick new. (this might have changed in the past year 
since I've built a custom kernel for a 2850). I never had driver issues 
with any distro provided kernel or my own kernels.


IIRC you can pull the megarc RPMs from Dell's website and install them. 
I never got around to making them work with Gentoo, but it shouldn't be 
terribly hard. I don't know of anything in the normal driver that will 
tell you any ifo about status or failed drives, but I never looked that 
hard.


I bought most of my 2850's about two years ago. Dual Xeon's, 8GB, 6 x 
10k 146GB drives, and remote management card for about $4000. Discount 
as appropriate.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell PowerEdge 2600 / 2800? AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver?

2007-12-19 Thread Steve Dommett
On Thursday 20 December 2007, Stroller wrote:
 I haven't done much digging yet, but thought a quick show of hands
 here might save some time. It looks like the SCSI hot-swap / RAID
 controller uses an AMI / LSI MegaRAID driver which is (?) part of the
 main kernel - anyone know if that does status updates (dead-hard
 drives c) to the syslog? Does it depend on any userland utilities
 that are only available as RPM or whatever?
I maintain a few Poweredges, I think mostly 2950.  Just yesterday we swapped a 
drive on the Fusion MPT SAS controller.  We were prompted to take the drive 
out of service by an email from 'smartd'.  I couldn't find any evidence of 
bad sectors or I/O timeouts in /var/log/messages, so this must be the SMART 
prefailure it purported to be in the email.  In /etc/smartd.conf I use:
DEVICESCAN -H -l error -l selftest -t -I 194 -W 5,45,48 -R 5 -R 194 -R 231 -m 
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After failing and removing the drive from the array using 'mdadm', we tried 
hotswapping the drive, and whilst nothing untoward happened when we pulled 
the drive there were no kernel messages either.  I was expecting something 
similar to when I've hotplugged SATA drives on my desktop machine.  We had to 
reboot the server to get it to see the replacement drive.  Perhaps there's 
some /proc/ or /sys/ setting to trigger a rescan of the SCSI bus, but I 
couldn't find it.

Other than those oddities the drive swap went well.

Cheers,
  Steve.


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