Re: [gentoo-user] usb HD cannot boot without initramfs

2009-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 17 December 2009 09:47:14 Xi Shen wrote:
 hi,
 
 i installed my gentoo on a usb HD disk, and i have compiled scsi, usb,
 ata drivers into the kernel. but when boot, the system still cannot
 find my usb hd, but it did find my hd on my laptop. what i missed?
 

You missed the filesystem driver for / compiled into the kernel

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 17 December 2009 02:37:54 Robert Bridge wrote:
 dd is pretty thorough... afterall, it writes to every single block on the
  disk.
 

And the resulting effect from doing that once is:

Trivially easy to recover the data that was there just before you did the dd

Why? Data on-disk is not a binary cell like ram. It is a magnetic pattern and 
the pattern from the previous write is still there IIF you know how to find it

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] What magic does portage use?

2009-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 17 December 2009 00:25:43 Dale wrote:
  Hearing they use old code is not to surprising actually.  Look at air 
  traffic control.  Every time they try to upgrade, it crashes.  I guess 
  the cheapest bidder is not always the best.  o_O
  
 
  Every such crash after an upgrade I know of is trying to run the thing
  on  Windows...
 

 
 Yep, I read the same thing.  Why not use a real OS?  I'm thinking BSD or 
 something.  Linux would be good but I think BSD is even better suited 
 for basically 100% uptime.
 

Solaris.

Those guys need thumping great big iron. Solaris excels at that.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Adam
 dd is pretty thorough... afterall, it writes to every single block on the
  disk.

 
 And the resulting effect from doing that once is:
 
 Trivially easy to recover the data that was there just before you did the dd
 
 Why? Data on-disk is not a binary cell like ram. It is a magnetic pattern and 
 the pattern from the previous write is still there IIF you know how to find it

Agreed, using all zeros will just change the magnitude of the field,
which will make it more difficult to read, but the underlying data will
largely remain. You should use random data so with dd you could use
if=/dev/random but that would be horribly slow so maybe if=/dev/urandom.
But why bother when there's a tool like shred. I boot a Knoppix cd then
use it on the raw device as i cant see any point in doing each partition
separately.




Re: [gentoo-user] usb HD cannot boot without initramfs

2009-12-17 Thread Xi Shen
sorry, could you be more specific? i cannot follow you ;)


On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thursday 17 December 2009 09:47:14 Xi Shen wrote:
 hi,

 i installed my gentoo on a usb HD disk, and i have compiled scsi, usb,
 ata drivers into the kernel. but when boot, the system still cannot
 find my usb hd, but it did find my hd on my laptop. what i missed?


 You missed the filesystem driver for / compiled into the kernel

 --
 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com





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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 23:24:51 Marcus Wanner wrote:
 On 12/16/2009 2:24 PM, Mick wrote:
  On Wednesday 16 December 2009 18:49:07 Grant wrote:
  I'm about to sell my old laptop and I'd like to wipe out the data and
  install any flavor of Linux via USB (the CD drive doesn't work any
  more).  I've got a bootable USB key that will get me into Gentoo.  How
  would you take it from there?  I'm looking for something quick and
  easy.  My data isn't too sensitive, but I'd like to do some type of
  wiping so it isn't all just sitting there with a deleted flag or
  however that works.
 
  First I'd mount the partitions and then emerge/use shred:
 
  # shred -v -n 25 -z -u /mnt/a_partition
 
  Then I would delete old partitions, create new partitions and format them
  as required.  If you're really paranoid about your data (which from what
  you're telling me you're not) you can also use dd to randomly overwrite
  partition tables, but I would probably not bother.
 
  Now, there may be more modern tools to do all this with a single button,
  but I haven't looked into it in any detail.
 
  HTH.
 
 What's wrong with dd if=/dev/zero of/dev/sdxx?

Nothing, I also mentioned dd.  Both are equally effective (or less so on 
journaled fs).  shred has the -n option for multiple overwrites.

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Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] skip some package in glsa-check

2009-12-17 Thread Arttu V.
On 12/17/09, Crístian Viana cristiandei...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi,

 I run glsa-check -f affected to update a Gentoo system, but there's one
 specific package I can't update, because it's a C library someone is using
 and the 'secure' version is causing segmentation fault on her program, so I
 added it to packages.mask. but as I run glsa-check in a cron job, if there's
 one package it can't emerge, it won't emerge the rest of them (if only I
 could add --keep-going).

 does anyone have a solution to this? I want to keep running glsa-check to
 update my system, but I don't want to update one specific package.

 thanks!

 --
 Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
 Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil

I don't know this for sure, but I wonder if putting the package in
package.provided would result in what you are looking for? So, unless
someone gets a better idea, I'd try to emerge the properly functioning
version of the package, and then mark it provided:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=5#doc_chap3

-- 
Arttu V.



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Mick
On Thursday 17 December 2009 05:13:32 Joshua Murphy wrote:
 chicane ~ # shred test/
 shred: test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory
 chicane ~ # shred -v -n 25 -z -u ~/test/
 shred: /root/test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory
 

shred ... shreds files.  Therefore you may need to point it to the files in 
question for it to work.  I suspect that if you point it to a device alone it 
just shreds the file representing the device on the Linux fs in question.
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Re: [gentoo-user] skip some package in glsa-check

2009-12-17 Thread Crístian Viana
it didn't work :( although I didn't know about the existence of that file!
:)

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12/17/09, Crístian Viana cristiandei...@gmail.com wrote:
  hi,
 
  I run glsa-check -f affected to update a Gentoo system, but there's one
  specific package I can't update, because it's a C library someone is
 using
  and the 'secure' version is causing segmentation fault on her program, so
 I
  added it to packages.mask. but as I run glsa-check in a cron job, if
 there's
  one package it can't emerge, it won't emerge the rest of them (if only I
  could add --keep-going).
 
  does anyone have a solution to this? I want to keep running glsa-check to
  update my system, but I don't want to update one specific package.
 
  thanks!
 
  --
  Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]
  Sent from Campinas, SP, Brazil

 I don't know this for sure, but I wonder if putting the package in
 package.provided would result in what you are looking for? So, unless
 someone gets a better idea, I'd try to emerge the properly functioning
 version of the package, and then mark it provided:


 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3chap=5#doc_chap3

 --
 Arttu V.




-- 
Crístian Deives dos Santos Viana [aka CD1]


[gentoo-user] freeglut fails to compile because X11/extensions/XInput.h not found

2009-12-17 Thread covici
Hi.  This happened on my latest update -- looks like the package which
used to contain this file no longer does -- any ideas on how to proceed?

Thanks.

-- 
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How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 11:42 +, Mick wrote:
 shred ... shreds files.  Therefore you may need to point it to the
 files in 
 question for it to work.  I suspect that if you point it to a device
 alone it 
 just shreds the file representing the device on the Linux fs in
 question. 

No.  This is horribly wrong.  Please don't tell people this.

The problem with just shredding files is thus:

  * I have a file with very sensitive data, it occupies blocks x-y
on my hard drive.
  * I later delete that file, in the os it just get's unlinked().
If there are no more links to that file then it's considered
deleted, however the data is still there.
  * Out of sheer luck blocks x-y are never reallocated. The data
remains on that block.
  * I go to shred every file on the filesystem. Blocks x-y never get
shredded because they are not linked to a file.
  * I give my laptop to someone. They run a tool as simple as
formost(1) on the drive. Bingo!  Sensitive data found.

Your comment about shredding devices... how long have you been using
*nix man?  When you cat /dev/sda what do you get?  When you cat
 /dev/sda what do you get (please, don't try that)?  When you run
shred on a block device representing your hard drive.. it's just a file.
Everything is a file (remember hearing that)?  Shredding a drive will
not shred the device node.  Device nodes are empty anyway:

$ ls -sH /dev/sda
0 /dev/sda

So if you shred a drive and it takes days instead of microseconds you
can rest assured that it's actually shredding the drive ;)






Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 12/17/2009 6:42 AM, Mick wrote:

On Thursday 17 December 2009 05:13:32 Joshua Murphy wrote:
   

chicane ~ # shred test/
shred: test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory
chicane ~ # shred -v -n 25 -z -u ~/test/
shred: /root/test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory

 

shred ... shreds files.  Therefore you may need to point it to the files in
question for it to work.  I suspect that if you point it to a device alone it
just shreds the file representing the device on the Linux fs in question.
   
That would be a bit inconvenient...I still vote for dd, overwriting the 
thing 26 times sounds like WAY overkill for a hdd...


Marcus



Re: [gentoo-user] skip some package in glsa-check

2009-12-17 Thread Arttu V.
On 12/17/09, Crístian Viana cristiandei...@gmail.com wrote:
 it didn't work :( although I didn't know about the existence of that file!
 :)

Ouch, too bad. I realized the same as I was reading portage man page
about that file. It requires explicit versions for the provided
packages, and that makes my suggestion a non-working one.

But then I just noticed this in your first email:

 so I added it to packages.mask.

I assume that's just a typo in the email? That file has no s (plural)
before the dot, and if you create one with an s, I think it will just
be silently ignored.

-- 
Arttu V.



Re: [gentoo-user] usb HD cannot boot without initramfs

2009-12-17 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 03:47:14PM +0800, Penguin Lover Xi Shen squawked:
 i installed my gentoo on a usb HD disk, and i have compiled scsi, usb,
 ata drivers into the kernel. but when boot, the system still cannot
 find my usb hd, but it did find my hd on my laptop. what i missed?

I don't completely understand your question: if it cannot find your
usb hd and you installed on the usb HD, how did you boot?

Did you install the bootloader on the USB HD?
Did you get to the bootloader screen at all?
What cannot find your USB HD?

Tell us in more detail what you did, and what didn't work. Your
description is so vague that for all I know cosmic rays could've
caused your problem. 

W
-- 
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depressed.'
`Life, don't talk to me about life.'
`Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to 
take you down to the bridge. Call that job satisfaction? 
'Cos I don't.'
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:40:40 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote:

 That would be a bit inconvenient...I still vote for dd, overwriting the 
 thing 26 times sounds like WAY overkill for a hdd...

Doesn't that depend on the contents of the disk? I don't see what's wrong
with booting a DBAN disk and letting it get on with the job overnight.


-- 
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That's not a bug, it's a Free Enhanced Feature!


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Re: [gentoo-user] usb HD cannot boot without initramfs

2009-12-17 Thread Steffen Loos

Xi Shen schrieb:

sorry, could you be more specific? i cannot follow you ;)


On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday 17 December 2009 09:47:14 Xi Shen wrote:

hi,

i installed my gentoo on a usb HD disk, and i have compiled scsi, usb,
ata drivers into the kernel. but when boot, the system still cannot
find my usb hd, but it did find my hd on my laptop. what i missed?


You missed the filesystem driver for / compiled into the kernel


1. please don't toppost!
2. What alan said: have you compiled ext4 or whatever you use for your root-fs 
compiled _into_ the kernel?
3. Suggestion from me: have you _all_ usb-staff, you need to access the usb-hd 
compiled _into_ the kernel? (e.a. usb_storage) not as module!


Steffen



[gentoo-user] does slim work with xorg-server1.7.3?

2009-12-17 Thread fei huang
I've found the slim login manager will hang the computer if I enter exit
or console in the panel,
blank screen and no response at all, had to push the reset button to
recover.

I did not test it under the previous xorg-server installation, anybody has
got the same issue?
I've tried to recompile slim but no help

slim 1.3.1 + xorg-server 1.7.3 (with xcb enabled) + awesome3.4.2

thanks
fei


Re: [gentoo-user] Can I (partially) rebuild a package with emerge?

2009-12-17 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Neil,

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:05:40PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:44:29 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

  I've just emerged xorg-x11, and noticed that I had a wrong setting
  for VIDEO_CARDS in /etc/make.conf.  Does emerge have a facility to
  rebuild only those portions of xorg-x11 dependent on that setting,
  or do I have to start again from scratch?  I've perused the emerge
  man page, but not found this situation addressed.

 VIDEO_CARDS sets USE flags, so emerge -uavDN world.

I've done that, but it failed to rebuild my xorg-x11.  I've still got
the version from last night, even though I've changed USE flags (via
setting VIDEO_CARDS) in /etc/make.conf.

/etc/make.conf has a later timestamp than /usr/bin/Xorg, yet this
doesn't trigger the -N flag.  I'm misunderstanding something significant
here.  The emerge man page is not explicit in how it determines new
USE flags.

If I wanted just to remove Xorg, together with the 188 other packages
installed with it, would it be correct to run these commands:

emerge --unmerge xorg-x11
emerge --depclean

?

TVM!

 -- 
 Neil Bothwick

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



[gentoo-user] Re: off-topic: logitech mice (MX1000)

2009-12-17 Thread walt

On 12/16/2009 07:51 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

At Wed, 16 Dec 2009 16:36:45 -0500 Albert Hopkinsmar...@letterboxes.org  
wrote:


FWIW, I have a Logitech mouse with a wheel that scrolls up and down,
presses down, and clicks left and right.  All seem to work fine, except
I don't use the latter as I haven't found any purpose for it although I
could possibly see it replacing ALT-Tab.  Nah... to confusing.


Right.  Mine (MX 1000) has those plus others (I inherited the mouse).
My problem is that several of these send multiple events (i.e. clicking
one physical button results in two button-down events for different X11
buttons and then the corresponding two button-up events).


That's why I was wondering if just a simple front-or-back turn of the
wheel also produces two different button events for each notch -- you
should see only button-4 events for forward and only button-5 events for
backward.  (I actually see two button-4 events for each notch forward,
but the 'state' differs between the first and second event.)





Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Alan McKinnon writes:

 On Thursday 17 December 2009 02:37:54 Robert Bridge wrote:
  dd is pretty thorough... afterall, it writes to every single block on
  the disk.
 
 And the resulting effect from doing that once is:
 
 Trivially easy to recover the data that was there just before you did
  the dd
 
 Why? Data on-disk is not a binary cell like ram. It is a magnetic
  pattern and the pattern from the previous write is still there IIF you
  know how to find it

I disagree here. In theory it may be possible, but trivially? Seems no one 
ever did it yet.
From http://www.h-online.com/newsticker/news/item/Secure-deletion-a-
single-overwrite-will-do-it-739699.html :

  They concluded that, after a single overwrite of the data on a drive,
  whether it be an old 1-gigabyte disk or a current model (at the time
  of the study), the likelihood of still being able to reconstruct
  anything is practically zero. Well, OK, not quite: a single bit whose
  precise location is known can in fact be correctly reconstructed with
  56 per cent probability (in one of the quoted examples). To recover a
  byte, however, correct head positioning would have to be precisely
  repeated eight times, and the probability of that is only 0.97 per
  cent. Recovering anything beyond a single byte is even less likely.

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] usb HD cannot boot without initramfs

2009-12-17 Thread Dale
What file system did you use on the USB drive?  Did you compile support 
for that file system in the kernel?  It can't be a module, it has to be 
compiled into the kernel itself. 


Dale

P. S. Top posted because he did.  Please don't shoot the messenger. 



Xi Shen wrote:

sorry, could you be more specific? i cannot follow you ;)


On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
  

On Thursday 17 December 2009 09:47:14 Xi Shen wrote:


hi,

i installed my gentoo on a usb HD disk, and i have compiled scsi, usb,
ata drivers into the kernel. but when boot, the system still cannot
find my usb hd, but it did find my hd on my laptop. what i missed?

  

You missed the filesystem driver for / compiled into the kernel

--
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Nevynxxx
On 17/12/09 15:12, Alex Schuster wrote:
 Well, OK, not quite: a single bit whose
   precise location is known can in fact be correctly reconstructed with
   56 per cent probability (in one of the quoted examples)

So a thing with a 50:50 change of being in a given state, can be
identified, a little over half the time? That's a surprise ;)

Now to go read TFA





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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: off-topic: logitech mice (MX1000)

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2009 16:07:46 schrieb walt:
 That's why I was wondering if just a simple front-or-back turn of the
 wheel also produces two different button events for each notch -- you
 should see only button-4 events for forward and only button-5 events for
 backward.  (I actually see two button-4 events for each notch forward,
 but the 'state' differs between the first and second event.)

You get one event for ButtonPress and one event for ButtonRelease

Regards
Michael



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Robert Bridge
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thursday 17 December 2009 02:37:54 Robert Bridge wrote:
 dd is pretty thorough... afterall, it writes to every single block on the
  disk.


 And the resulting effect from doing that once is:

 Trivially easy to recover the data that was there just before you did the dd

1) It's not trivial. Yes, a forensic lab can probably get enough to
convict, but that is NOT trivial... (And I have been talking to data
retrieval experts about similar stuff in the last week!)

2) The OP has admitted it's not that sensitive.

3) dd DOES write to every sector of the disk. It does what it does
pretty thoroughly.

The major weakness of dd (and any other OS based tool) is the
potential for drives doing sector remapping. The only absolutely
guaranteed way to eliminate this is a furnace.



Re: [gentoo-user] Upgraded gcc 4.1.2 to 4.3.4; dosemu 1.4.0 won't emerge

2009-12-17 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 12/16/2009 11:47 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:

   Attached is the emerge log.  I'm running 32 bit on an Intel Core Duo
(Dell D530) USE=-X -debug -gpm -svga.  The last step of the gcc
upgrade is emerge -eav world.  dosemu 1.4.0 built under gcc 4.1.2 but
not under 4.3.4.  I've added my report to
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294843  Any ideas from the log?
   
Did you follow the directions at 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml when upgrading?


Marcus



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Joshua Murphy writes:

 A) To fill the drive with zeros:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/drive

Should be enough for practical purposes.

 B) And, to make it at least questionable whether you wiped it or
 merely had it encrypted:
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/drive

Similar method, but faster: badblocks -t random -w /dev/drive
You can interrupt this after the first pass when the reading  comparing 
part starts.

Wonko



[gentoo-user] Where is my /dev/fd0?

2009-12-17 Thread Marcus Wanner
I tried to mount a floppy disk in my ~x86 gentoo system, but the 
/dev/fd0 device is not there. In other words, I can't find the block 
device corresponding to my floppy drive. Where is it and what am I doing 
wrong?


Marcus



[gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

2009-12-17 Thread Dale
I'm trying to get KDE 4 where I can use it so I used the layman to get 
the latest.  Anyway, I seem to have ran into a Block, may not be related 
to KDE4 tho, that I just can't make sense of.  This is the error I get:


[blocks b ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix] 
(kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix] is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-)
[blocks B ] app-arch/lzma-utils (app-arch/lzma-utils is blocking 
app-arch/xz-utils-)
[blocks B ] app-arch/xz-utils (app-arch/xz-utils is blocking 
app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)


Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248 
uninstalls), Size of downloads: 240,422 kB

Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
Portage tree and overlays:
[0] /usr/portage
[1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde

* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.

 ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-', 'merge') pulled in by
   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5', 'nomerge')
   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1', 'nomerge')

   (and 10 more)

 ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
   app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
   app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/', 
'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')



I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a 
capital B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still get 
this error.  How can they block it when they are not installed yet?  I'm 
missing something here.  I just don't see it. 

I found a thread on the forums and did what it said but I still get 
this.  It said to unmerge xz-utils which I did.  Then I unmerged 
lzma-utils for good measure.


Someone tell me the trick to this?  Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 






Re: [gentoo-user] Where is my /dev/fd0?

2009-12-17 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:53:21AM -0500, Penguin Lover Marcus Wanner squawked:
 I tried to mount a floppy disk in my ~x86 gentoo system, but the /dev/fd0 
 device is not there. In other words, I can't find the block device 
 corresponding to my floppy drive. Where is it and what am I doing wrong?

You are using udev, I assume? Did you compile the IDE floppy support
into your kernel?

W

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but occasionally I will indulge myself in my personal addition to
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can I (partially) rebuild a package with emerge?

2009-12-17 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:14:48 +, Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
 Hi, Neil,
 
 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:05:40PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 20:44:29 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
 
  I've just emerged xorg-x11, and noticed that I had a wrong setting
  for VIDEO_CARDS in /etc/make.conf.  Does emerge have a facility to
  rebuild only those portions of xorg-x11 dependent on that setting,
  or do I have to start again from scratch?  I've perused the emerge
  man page, but not found this situation addressed.
 
 VIDEO_CARDS sets USE flags, so emerge -uavDN world.
 
 I've done that, but it failed to rebuild my xorg-x11.  I've still got
 the version from last night, even though I've changed USE flags (via
 setting VIDEO_CARDS) in /etc/make.conf.

First, as I said in my other mail, the only relevant package that needs to
be rebuilt is xorg-server, nothing else. The drivers you add will be built
afresh as well as dependencies for xorg-server. 

Second, xorg-x11 is *nothing*. It's just a meta package that pulls
dependencies, it doesn't actually install a single file on your hard disk,
and it doesn't compile anything at all. So, re-emerging it will do nothing.

 /etc/make.conf has a later timestamp than /usr/bin/Xorg, yet this
 doesn't trigger the -N flag.

-N flag is not triggered based on time stamps. Each time a package is
merged, the USE flags you used the last time you merged it are stored under
/var/db/pkg. All -N does is to check if these flags that are stored match
the current ones, and if not, the offending package is re-emerged.

 If I wanted just to remove Xorg, together with the 188 other packages
 installed with it, would it be correct to run these commands:
 
 emerge --unmerge xorg-x11
 emerge --depclean

As long as you didn't emerge any single X package by hand, yes. But it
will do nothing to help you, it will not solve your problem. And it's not
related to your problem either. You'd just be wasting time.

-- 
Jesús Guerrero



[gentoo-user] Re: Upgraded gcc 4.1.2 to 4.3.4; dosemu 1.4.0 won't emerge

2009-12-17 Thread walt

On 12/16/2009 08:47 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:

   Attached is the emerge log.  I'm running 32 bit on an Intel Core Duo
(Dell D530) USE=-X -debug -gpm -svga.  The last step of the gcc
upgrade is emerge -eav world.  dosemu 1.4.0 built under gcc 4.1.2 but
not under 4.3.4.  I've added my report to
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294843  Any ideas from the log?


I'm guessing the doesemu code is getting old and needs maintenance.  This
patch lets dosemu compile with 4.3.4 but I can't test the result because
I don't have any DOS programs.  This is just a quick-and-dirty -- the
right way would be to add an #ifdef to test for compiler version.

#cat dosemu.patch
--- work/dosemu-1.4.0/src/tools/periph/dexeconfig.c.orig2009-12-17 
08:02:40.0 -0800
+++ work/dosemu-1.4.0/src/tools/periph/dexeconfig.c 2009-12-17 
08:05:19.0 -0800
@@ -238,7 +238,7 @@
 exit(1);
   }
   close(fd);
-  fc = open(cfile, O_WRONLY | O_CREAT | O_TRUNC);
+  fc = open(cfile, O_WRONLY | O_CREAT | O_TRUNC, S_IRWXU);
   if (fc  0) {
 perror(cannot open config file);
 exit(1);




Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

2009-12-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm trying to get KDE 4 where I can use it so I used the layman to get the
 latest.  Anyway, I seem to have ran into a Block, may not be related to KDE4
 tho, that I just can't make sense of.  This is the error I get:

 [blocks b ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]
 (kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix] is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-)
 [blocks B ] app-arch/lzma-utils (app-arch/lzma-utils is blocking
 app-arch/xz-utils-)
 [blocks B ] app-arch/xz-utils (app-arch/xz-utils is blocking
 app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)

 Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248 uninstalls),
 Size of downloads: 240,422 kB
 Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
 Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage
 [1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-', 'merge') pulled in by
   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
 'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5',
 'nomerge')
   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1',
 'nomerge')
   (and 10 more)

  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
   app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
 'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
   app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
 'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')


 I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a capital
 B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still get this error.
  How can they block it when they are not installed yet?  I'm missing
 something here.  I just don't see it.
 I found a thread on the forums and did what it said but I still get this.
  It said to unmerge xz-utils which I did.  Then I unmerged lzma-utils for
 good measure.

 Someone tell me the trick to this?  Thanks.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

xz-utils replaces lzma-utils, so you can't have them both installed at
once. Maybe try unmerging and re-emerging the packages that say they
depend on lzma-utils, they've probably been updated to use xz-utils
instead by now.



Re: [gentoo-user] skip some package in glsa-check

2009-12-17 Thread Crístian Viana
yeah, that was a typo! =/ the file I want to mask (and that's the same
glsa-check wants to update) is really being masked when I run emerge.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12/17/09, Crístian Viana cristiandei...@gmail.com wrote:
  it didn't work :( although I didn't know about the existence of that
 file!
  :)

 Ouch, too bad. I realized the same as I was reading portage man page
 about that file. It requires explicit versions for the provided
 packages, and that makes my suggestion a non-working one.

 But then I just noticed this in your first email:

  so I added it to packages.mask.

 I assume that's just a typo in the email? That file has no s (plural)
 before the dot, and if you create one with an s, I think it will just
 be silently ignored.

 --
 Arttu V.




-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] freeglut fails to compile because X11/extensions/XInput.h not found

2009-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 17 December 2009 14:09:37 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Hi.  This happened on my latest update -- looks like the package which
 used to contain this file no longer does -- any ideas on how to proceed?
 
 Thanks.
 


nazgul ~ # locate XInput.h
/usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h
nazgul ~ # equery belongs `locate XInput.h`
 * Searching for /usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h ...
x11-libs/libXi-1.3 (/usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h)



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: off-topic: logitech mice (MX1000)

2009-12-17 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 22:51 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 Right.  Mine (MX 1000) has those plus others (I inherited the mouse).
 My problem is that several of these send multiple events (i.e.
 clicking
 one physical button results in two button-down events for different
 X11
 buttons and then the corresponding two button-up events).
 
 I wonder how to handle this.  Actually, I have trouble believing it so
 wonder if I have some config wrong, but mine are very simple configs.
 
 allan
 

I don't have the mouse with me to check, but ran xev on it last night
and only saw one event for left-right wheel (button6 and button7 iirc).
Could it be perhaps there are 2 (X11) drivers listneing on this device
or are you using GPM or something like that?

-a





Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 17 December 2009 16:26:20 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:40:40 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote:
  That would be a bit inconvenient...I still vote for dd, overwriting the
  thing 26 times sounds like WAY overkill for a hdd...
 
 Doesn't that depend on the contents of the disk? I don't see what's wrong
 with booting a DBAN disk and letting it get on with the job overnight.


Let's look at the obvious solution then:

remove the hard drive containing sensitive data, replace it with a new one, 
sell laptop.

Ka-Ching! Problem solved.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Where is my /dev/fd0?

2009-12-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Willie Wong writes:

 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:53:21AM -0500, Penguin Lover Marcus Wanner
 squawked:
  I tried to mount a floppy disk in my ~x86 gentoo system, but the
  /dev/fd0 device is not there. In other words, I can't find the block
  device corresponding to my floppy drive. Where is it and what am I
  doing wrong?
 
 You are using udev, I assume? Did you compile the IDE floppy support
 into your kernel?

It's not IDE (IDE/ATAPI floppy support is for things like LS-120 drives), 
but CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD, found in Device Drivers - Block devices - Normal 
floppy disk support. If it's compiled as a module, maybe you just need to 
modprobe floppy?

Wonko




Re: [gentoo-user] Where is my /dev/fd0?

2009-12-17 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 12/17/2009 11:06 AM, Willie Wong wrote:

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:53:21AM -0500, Penguin Lover Marcus Wanner squawked:
   

I tried to mount a floppy disk in my ~x86 gentoo system, but the /dev/fd0
device is not there. In other words, I can't find the block device
corresponding to my floppy drive. Where is it and what am I doing wrong?
 

You are using udev, I assume? Did you compile the IDE floppy support
into your kernel?
   
The only floppy options I can find in the kernel relating to floppy 
drives in the kernel config are mac floppy, amiga floppy, and atari 
floppy, none of which apply to me. I believe I am using udev, and both 
the cd/dvd drives work with my current setup. Thanks!


Marcus



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: off-topic: logitech mice (MX1000)

2009-12-17 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mittwoch, 16. Dezember 2009 schrieb Bruce Hill:
 On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 04:36:45PM -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
  FWIW, I have a Logitech mouse with a wheel that scrolls up and down,
  presses down, and clicks left and right.  All seem to work fine, except
  I don't use the latter as I haven't found any purpose for it although I
  could possibly see it replacing ALT-Tab.  Nah... to confusing.
 
  -a

 What settings do you use for all those events? I have a mouse with
 right/left buttons, scroll wheel that also tilts right/left, and two side
 buttons. Nothing works atm but regular right/left, scroll wheel to scroll
 and press to paste, and side buttons. So scroll wheel tilt does nothing.

Unlike Windows, where I'd have to download a 50 Meg file from logitech to make 
the tilt wheel work, everything's there in Xorg, and mplayer automatically 
uses the left and right click to skip forward and backward. Horizontal 
scrolling in browser windows works as well - out of the box.

Isn't linux great :-)
-- 
Gruß | Greetings | Qapla'
UNIX is not user-unfriendly.
It just expects the user to be a little more computer-friendly.


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Re: [gentoo-user] freeglut fails to compile because X11/extensions/XInput.h not found

2009-12-17 Thread covici

Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday 17 December 2009 14:09:37 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
  Hi.  This happened on my latest update -- looks like the package which
  used to contain this file no longer does -- any ideas on how to proceed?
  
  Thanks.
  
 
 
 nazgul ~ # locate XInput.h
 /usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h
 nazgul ~ # equery belongs `locate XInput.h`
  * Searching for /usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h ...
 x11-libs/libXi-1.3 (/usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h)
However the newer version of this package has eliminated this file --
this is my whole problem.Now I re emerged the package which had an
update and how its here.  I guess portage did things in the wrong order
or something.

Thanks.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



[gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild Loop

2009-12-17 Thread James
Hello,

Well I keep getting the same 32 files to rebuild
even after running 'emerge @preserved-rebuild'
several times. Here is the list of files:



ebuild   R   ] sys-fs/reiserfsprogs-3.6.19-r2
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1
[ebuild   R   ] dev-libs/apr-1.3.9
[ebuild   R   ] sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.0.6-r2
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/libquicktime-1.1.3
[ebuild   R   ] net-nds/openldap-2.4.19-r1
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.24.1
[ebuild   R   ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.1.10
[ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/graphviz-2.24.0-r2
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.2
[ebuild   R   ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.9
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libSM-1.1.1
[ebuild   R   ] dev-libs/apr-util-1.3.9
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/jasper-1.900.1-r3
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/cinelerra-20090210
[ebuild   R   ] net-libs/libproxy-0.2.3-r2
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.1
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/kino-1.3.3
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libXt-1.0.7-r1
[ebuild   R   ] app-admin/apache-tools-2.2.14
[ebuild   R   ] app-misc/lirc-0.8.5
[ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.7.0
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1
[ebuild   R   ] www-servers/apache-2.2.14-r1
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/giflib-4.1.6-r1
[ebuild   R   ] games-action/bzflag-2.0.12
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libXpm-3.5.8
[ebuild   R   ] x11-apps/xdm-1.1.8
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/transcode-1.0.7
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.16.3-r1
[ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/pmount-0.9.19



so do I just remove the @perserved-rebuild list,
not sure where this list is located,
as some previous postings have suggested? Any other
way to get past this message, as it pops up
anytime I emerge anything now.. the same exact list

Revdep-rebuild is clean and update world is clean
too

???
James





JAZ




Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

2009-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:55:06 -0600, Dale wrote:

 I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a 
 capital B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still
 get this error.  How can they block it when they are not installed
 yet?  I'm missing something here.  I just don't see it. 

One package is pulling in lzma-utils, another wants xz-utils.

emerge --oneshot xz-utils (which replaces lzma-utils) should fix this.


-- 
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[gentoo-user] Re: freeglut fails to compile because X11/extensions/XInput.h not found

2009-12-17 Thread walt

On 12/17/2009 04:09 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:

Hi.  This happened on my latest update -- looks like the package which
used to contain this file no longer does -- any ideas on how to proceed?


Hm.  On my x86 and ~amd64 machines I have freeglut-2.4 and freeglut-2.6,
respectively, but no such header file on either machine.  Something must
be stale on your machine.  Have you run revdep-rebuild and lafilefixer?

Without detailed build logs it's hard to say who's complaining about what.




Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

2009-12-17 Thread Dale

Paul Hartman wrote:

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
  

I'm trying to get KDE 4 where I can use it so I used the layman to get the
latest.  Anyway, I seem to have ran into a Block, may not be related to KDE4
tho, that I just can't make sense of.  This is the error I get:

[blocks b ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]
(kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix] is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-)
[blocks B ] app-arch/lzma-utils (app-arch/lzma-utils is blocking
app-arch/xz-utils-)
[blocks B ] app-arch/xz-utils (app-arch/xz-utils is blocking
app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)

Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248 uninstalls),
Size of downloads: 240,422 kB
Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
Portage tree and overlays:
[0] /usr/portage
[1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde

* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.

 ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-', 'merge') pulled in by
  app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
  app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5',
'nomerge')
  app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/', 'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1',
'nomerge')
  (and 10 more)

 ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
  app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
  app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')


I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a capital
B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still get this error.
 How can they block it when they are not installed yet?  I'm missing
something here.  I just don't see it.
I found a thread on the forums and did what it said but I still get this.
 It said to unmerge xz-utils which I did.  Then I unmerged lzma-utils for
good measure.

Someone tell me the trick to this?  Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



xz-utils replaces lzma-utils, so you can't have them both installed at
once. Maybe try unmerging and re-emerging the packages that say they
depend on lzma-utils, they've probably been updated to use xz-utils
instead by now.

  


I think I tried that.  I ran this command with both blockers unmerged:

emerge -1v rpm2targz gpm mpfr eix libarchive

Thing is, it pulled both the blockers back in again.  I also tried 
removing those two blockers and just doing the HUGE update, it still 
gripes about the block.


I synced last night.  Could it be that I need to sync again?  Maybe 
something was in the process of changing when I synced?


Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

2009-12-17 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:55:06 -0600, Dale wrote:

  
I didn't post the whole thing but the part about the Blocks with a 
capital B.  I have unmerged both lzma-utils and xz-utils but I still

get this error.  How can they block it when they are not installed
yet?  I'm missing something here.  I just don't see it. 



One package is pulling in lzma-utils, another wants xz-utils.

emerge --oneshot xz-utils (which replaces lzma-utils) should fix this.
  


I have tried a few things but just to make sure, I tried this just to be 
sure.  I unmerged both blockers and emerged xz-utils again, same block 
as before.


Ideas?

Dale

:-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

2009-12-17 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 17 Dezember 2009 19:32:54 schrieb Dale:
 I have tried a few things but just to make sure, I tried this just to be 
 sure.  I unmerged both blockers and emerged xz-utils again, same block 
 as before.
 
 Ideas?

The solution is in the ebuilds (as always): eix 0.17.0 still depends on lzma-
utils, while 0.17.1 has been switched to xz-utils. The same is true for 
libarchive, you need a later version.

HTH...

Dirk



[gentoo-user] fstab and cdrom question

2009-12-17 Thread Denis
Hello folks,

Quick question.

My main HD is SATA and gets /dev/sda in fstab.  My CDROM, which is the
only device on the IDE bus, seems to be /dev/hda.  That's what
Audacious declared when it was looking for a CD to play.  I had CDROM
device forced to /dev/cdrom in Audacious, unwittingly, before and was
wondering why my CDs were not playing!  However, my fstab is still
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,user
  0 0 - so should I switch this to /dev/hda instead of /dev/cdrom?
If so, should some link be made to /dev/cdrom, if other programs may
be querying /dev/cdrom for the sake of Linux standard convention, or
is /dev/cdrom already a link, which was broken in my case?

Thank you,
Denis



Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

2009-12-17 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Dale schrieb am 17.12.2009 16:55:
 
 [blocks b ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]
 (kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix] is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-)
 [blocks B ] app-arch/lzma-utils (app-arch/lzma-utils is blocking
 app-arch/xz-utils-)
 [blocks B ] app-arch/xz-utils (app-arch/xz-utils is blocking
 app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)
 
 Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248
 uninstalls), Size of downloads: 240,422 kB
 Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
 Portage tree and overlays:
 [0] /usr/portage
 [1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde
 
 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.
 
  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-', 'merge') pulled in by
app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
 'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
 'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5', 'nomerge')
app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
 'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1', 'nomerge')
(and 10 more)
 
  ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
 'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
 'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')
 

You need at least eix-0.17.1 and libarchive-2.7.1. Older versions depend
on lzma-utils instead of xz-utils, thus the blocker.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild Loop

2009-12-17 Thread Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas
Well,

I got the same problem in a recent past.
What I did to solve this problem was to remove sys-libs/e2fsprogs-libs and to 
install it again:

emerge -C e2fsprogs-libs
emerge -van1 e2fsprogs-libs

But I don't if it is good for your case.

Regards,
-- 
Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas
Control and Automation Engineer
Gentoo Foundation Member

Em Quinta-feira 17 Dezembro 2009, às 15:51:33, James escreveu:
 Hello,
 
 Well I keep getting the same 32 files to rebuild
 even after running 'emerge @preserved-rebuild'
 several times. Here is the list of files:
 
 
 
 ebuild   R   ] sys-fs/reiserfsprogs-3.6.19-r2
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/util-linux-2.16.1
 [ebuild   R   ] dev-libs/apr-1.3.9
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-fs/cryptsetup-1.0.6-r2
 [ebuild   R   ] media-libs/libquicktime-1.1.3
 [ebuild   R   ] net-nds/openldap-2.4.19-r1
 [ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/libbonoboui-2.24.1
 [ebuild   R   ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.1.10
 [ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/graphviz-2.24.0-r2
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.2
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-fs/e2fsprogs-1.41.9
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libSM-1.1.1
 [ebuild   R   ] dev-libs/apr-util-1.3.9
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.13-r2
 [ebuild   R   ] media-libs/jasper-1.900.1-r3
 [ebuild   R   ] media-video/cinelerra-20090210
 [ebuild   R   ] net-libs/libproxy-0.2.3-r2
 [ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/libgnomeui-2.24.1
 [ebuild   R   ] media-video/kino-1.3.3
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libXt-1.0.7-r1
 [ebuild   R   ] app-admin/apache-tools-2.2.14
 [ebuild   R   ] app-misc/lirc-0.8.5
 [ebuild   R   ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.5.7.0
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1
 [ebuild   R   ] www-servers/apache-2.2.14-r1
 [ebuild   R   ] media-libs/giflib-4.1.6-r1
 [ebuild   R   ] games-action/bzflag-2.0.12
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/libXpm-3.5.8
 [ebuild   R   ] x11-apps/xdm-1.1.8
 [ebuild   R   ] media-video/transcode-1.0.7
 [ebuild   R   ] media-libs/xine-lib-1.1.16.3-r1
 [ebuild   R   ] sys-apps/pmount-0.9.19
 
 
 
 so do I just remove the @perserved-rebuild list,
 not sure where this list is located,
 as some previous postings have suggested? Any other
 way to get past this message, as it pops up
 anytime I emerge anything now.. the same exact list
 
 Revdep-rebuild is clean and update world is clean
 too
 
 ???
 James
 
 
 
 
 
 JAZ
 
 
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Stroller


On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:40, Marcus Wanner wrote:

On 12/17/2009 6:42 AM, Mick wrote:

On Thursday 17 December 2009 05:13:32 Joshua Murphy wrote:


chicane ~ # shred test/
shred: test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory
chicane ~ # shred -v -n 25 -z -u ~/test/
shred: /root/test/: failed to open for writing: Is a directory

shred ... shreds files.  Therefore you may need to point it to the  
files in
question for it to work.  I suspect that if you point it to a  
device alone it
just shreds the file representing the device on the Linux fs in  
question.


That would be a bit inconvenient...I still vote for dd, overwriting  
the thing 26 times sounds like WAY overkill for a hdd...


The US military specification is to overwrite randomly 3 times: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_erasure
I think the `shred` on the current System Rescue CD defaults to this.

The advice to overwrite 26-35 times is, I think, based on Peter  
Gutmann's 1996 advice, which is now quite dated and is widely  
considered no longer relevant. Fair play to Gutmann: there aren't many  
studies on secure data removal made publicly available, so it was the  
best knowledge we had at the time. It may be accurate to the kind of  
drives available then, but not to those available now.


Why not use dd? Grant says that his data isn't too sensitive, so it  
doesn't really matter. But it's no more difficult to run shred than it  
is to run `dd` - it's about the same amount of typing. You might as  
well do things properly (also known as following best practices),  
even if you don't think you need to. 3 writes really doesn't take that  
long.


Stroller.
 



Re: [gentoo-user] Where is my /dev/fd0?

2009-12-17 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 06:04:37PM +0100, Penguin Lover Alex Schuster squawked:
 Willie Wong writes:
  On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:53:21AM -0500, Penguin Lover Marcus Wanner
  squawked:
   I tried to mount a floppy disk in my ~x86 gentoo system, but the
   /dev/fd0 device is not there. In other words, I can't find the block
   device corresponding to my floppy drive. Where is it and what am I
   doing wrong?
  
  You are using udev, I assume? Did you compile the IDE floppy support
  into your kernel?
 
 It's not IDE (IDE/ATAPI floppy support is for things like LS-120 drives), 
 but CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD, found in Device Drivers - Block devices - Normal 
 floppy disk support. If it's compiled as a module, maybe you just need to 
 modprobe floppy?

My mistake. It's been a while since I built a kernel with floppy
support. 

W
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is my /dev/fd0?

2009-12-17 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 12:04:56PM -0500, Penguin Lover Marcus Wanner squawked:
 The only floppy options I can find in the kernel relating to floppy drives 
 in the kernel config are mac floppy, amiga floppy, and atari floppy, none 
 of which apply to me. I believe I am using udev, and both the cd/dvd drives 
 work with my current setup. Thanks!

Made a mistake in my post. Please see what Wonko/Alex said. 

Cheers

W
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`The phone, waiter,' said Zaphod, grabbing it off him. 
`Shee, you guys are so unhip it's a wonder your bums don't 
fall off.'

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Re: [gentoo-user] fstab and cdrom question

2009-12-17 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 01:42:33PM -0500, Penguin Lover Denis squawked:
 My main HD is SATA and gets /dev/sda in fstab.  My CDROM, which is the
 only device on the IDE bus, seems to be /dev/hda.  That's what
 Audacious declared when it was looking for a CD to play.  I had CDROM
 device forced to /dev/cdrom in Audacious, unwittingly, before and was
 wondering why my CDs were not playing!  However, my fstab is still
 /dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,user
   0 0 - so should I switch this to /dev/hda instead of /dev/cdrom?

Sure, if you like. 

 If so, should some link be made to /dev/cdrom, if other programs may
 be querying /dev/cdrom for the sake of Linux standard convention, or
 is /dev/cdrom already a link, which was broken in my case?

The default udev scripts should have been able to automatically create
symlinks for optical devices in /dev. Whether yours is broken, you can
find out by trying to ls -l /dev/cdrom :)

W

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1000 A.D. - That root is heathen.
Here, say this prayer.
1850 A.D. - That prayer is superstition.
Here, drink this potion.
1940 A.D. - That potion is snake oil.
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Re: [gentoo-user] fstab and cdrom question

2009-12-17 Thread Denis
 The default udev scripts should have been able to automatically create
 symlinks for optical devices in /dev. Whether yours is broken, you can
 find out by trying to ls -l /dev/cdrom :)

It appears the links /dev/cdrom1 and /dev/cdrw1 are tied to /dev/hda.
Is that the default behavior instead of /dev/cdrom now?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: off-topic: logitech mice (MX1000)

2009-12-17 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:30:58 +0100 Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de 
wrote:

 Am Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2009 16:07:46 schrieb walt:
 That's why I was wondering if just a simple front-or-back turn of the
 wheel also produces two different button events for each notch -- you
 should see only button-4 events for forward and only button-5 events for
 backward.  (I actually see two button-4 events for each notch forward,
 but the 'state' differs between the first and second event.)

 You get one event for ButtonPress and one event for ButtonRelease

Correct.  Remember that on the left or right motion I received two
presses and two releases for two different X-buttons.

This same thing happens for other physical buttons on the beast.
Fortunately the two main buttons give just button 1 and button 3
respectively.
Another button just gives button 2 and the wheel rotation give button 4
in one direction and 5 in the other.  So it does work as a wheeled mouse
if I ignore all the other physical buttons.

allan



Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

2009-12-17 Thread Dale

Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

Dale schrieb am 17.12.2009 16:55:
  

[blocks b ] kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix]
(kde-base/kde-meta:4.3[-kdeprefix] is blocking kde-base/kde-meta-)
[blocks B ] app-arch/lzma-utils (app-arch/lzma-utils is blocking
app-arch/xz-utils-)
[blocks B ] app-arch/xz-utils (app-arch/xz-utils is blocking
app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7)

Total: 278 packages (17 upgrades, 19 new, 242 in new slots, 248
uninstalls), Size of downloads: 240,422 kB
Conflict: 511 blocks (2 unsatisfied)
Portage tree and overlays:
[0] /usr/portage
[1] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde

* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.

 ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/xz-utils-', 'merge') pulled in by
   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
'app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0.0.3g', 'nomerge')
   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
'sys-libs/gpm-1.20.5', 'nomerge')
   app-arch/xz-utils required by ('installed', '/',
'dev-libs/mpfr-2.4.1_p1', 'nomerge')
   (and 10 more)

 ('ebuild', '/', 'app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.7', 'merge') pulled in by
   app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
'app-portage/eix-0.17.0', 'nomerge')
   app-arch/lzma-utils required by ('installed', '/',
'app-arch/libarchive-2.7.0-r1', 'nomerge')




You need at least eix-0.17.1 and libarchive-2.7.1. Older versions depend
on lzma-utils instead of xz-utils, thus the blocker.
  


You are both right.  I tried installing a later version on the blockers 
but not the packages that depended on them.  So, I added the following 
to my package.keyword and package.unmask files:


=app-portage/eix-0.18.3
=app-arch/libarchive-2.7.1

Portage is now happy.  Every time I think I have figured out portage and 
these blocker messages, I get thrown a curve ball.  lol 


Thanks much for catching that curve ball.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] does slim work with xorg-server1.7.3?

2009-12-17 Thread Zeerak Waseem
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:45:20 +0100, fei huang daniel.huang...@gmail.com  
wrote:


I've found the slim login manager will hang the computer if I enter  
exit

or console in the panel,
blank screen and no response at all, had to push the reset button to
recover.

I did not test it under the previous xorg-server installation, anybody  
has

got the same issue?
I've tried to recompile slim but no help

slim 1.3.1 + xorg-server 1.7.3 (with xcb enabled) + awesome3.4.2

thanks
fei


Hey Fei,

I don't have those issues.

I'm using slim 1.3.1-r4 and xorg-server 1.7.3.901-r1.
Are you using the same packages? If not then try upgrading, perhaps that  
will help :-)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Where is my /dev/fd0?

2009-12-17 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 12/17/2009 12:04 PM, Alex Schuster wrote:

Willie Wong writes:

   

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:53:21AM -0500, Penguin Lover Marcus Wanner
squawked:
 

I tried to mount a floppy disk in my ~x86 gentoo system, but the
/dev/fd0 device is not there. In other words, I can't find the block
device corresponding to my floppy drive. Where is it and what am I
doing wrong?
   

You are using udev, I assume? Did you compile the IDE floppy support
into your kernel?
 

It's not IDE (IDE/ATAPI floppy support is for things like LS-120 drives),
but CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD, found in Device Drivers -  Block devices -  Normal
floppy disk support. If it's compiled as a module, maybe you just need to
modprobe floppy?
   
I looked at that path in the config, it turns out that it was disabled 
(by default! why?). I enabled it, rebuilt, rebooted, and now it works. 
Thanks guys!


Marcus




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: off-topic: logitech mice (MX1000)

2009-12-17 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:49:43 -0500 Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org 
wrote:

 On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 22:51 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 Right.  Mine (MX 1000) has those plus others (I inherited the mouse).
 My problem is that several of these send multiple events (i.e.
 clicking
 one physical button results in two button-down events for different
 X11
 buttons and then the corresponding two button-up events).
 
 I wonder how to handle this.  Actually, I have trouble believing it so
 wonder if I have some config wrong, but mine are very simple configs.
 
 allan
 

 I don't have the mouse with me to check, but ran xev on it last night
 and only saw one event for left-right wheel (button6 and button7 iirc).
 Could it be perhaps there are 2 (X11) drivers listneing on this device
 or are you using GPM or something like that?

That sounds promising, but I see no evidence in the log file.
I assume this line
  (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
doesn't count as the NVIDIA is a display driver and I see nothing
relevent in the doc that came with it.

I do have two InputDevice sections in xorg.conf about the mouse, but my
ServerLayout only mentions one.  I attach both my log and xorg.conf
below.

Thanks for helping.
allan

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeis...@builder58)  Thu Jun  5 00:08:24 
PDT 2008

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Nvidia / Logitech layout
Screen Nvidia screen 0 0
InputDeviceLogitech MX1000 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier Nvidia layout
Screen Nvidia screen 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section ServerLayout
Identifier X.org Configured
Screen 0  Screen0 0 0
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
EndSection

Section Files
ModulePath  /usr/lib64/xorg/modules
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/dejavu/
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/corefonts/
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/misc/
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/Type1/
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/
EndSection

#Section ServerFlags
#Option AutoAddDevicesfalse
#EndSection

Section Module
Load   glx
Load   record
Load   dbe
Load   xtrap
# AJG # Load  dri
Load   extmod
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard0
Driver kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse0
Driver mouse
Option Protocol auto
Option Device /dev/input/mice
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Logitech MX1000
Driver evdev
Option Device /dev/input/event2
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier Dell wfp 3008
VendorName Dell
ModelName  wfp 3008
VertRefresh 60.0
ModeLine   2560x1600 268 2560 2608 2640 2720 1600 1603 1609 1646
Option dpms
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier Monitor0
VendorName Vendor0
ModelName  Model0
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier Nvidia Quadro FX1700
Driver nvidia
EndSection

Section Device

### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False,
### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option SWcursor  # [bool]
#Option HWcursor  # [bool]
#Option NoAccel   # [bool]
#Option ShadowFB  # [bool]
#Option UseFBDev  # [bool]
#Option Rotate# [str]
#Option VideoKey  # i
#Option FlatPanel # [bool]
#Option FPDither  # [bool]
#Option CrtcNumber# i
#Option FPScale   # [bool]
#Option FPTweak   # i
#Option DualHead  # [bool]
Identifier Card0
Driver nv
VendorName nVidia Corporation
BoardName  Unknown Board
BusID  PCI:1:0:0
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Nvidia screen
Device Nvidia Quadro FX1700
MonitorDell wfp 3008
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Viewport0 0
Depth   24
Modes  2560x1600
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Viewport0 0
Depth   1

[gentoo-user] Re: fstab and cdrom question

2009-12-17 Thread walt

On 12/17/2009 10:42 AM, Denis wrote:

Hello folks,

Quick question.

My main HD is SATA and gets /dev/sda in fstab.  My CDROM, which is the
only device on the IDE bus, seems to be /dev/hda.  That's what
Audacious declared when it was looking for a CD to play.  I had CDROM
device forced to /dev/cdrom in Audacious, unwittingly, before and was
wondering why my CDs were not playing!  However, my fstab is still
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,user
   0 0 - so should I switch this to /dev/hda instead of /dev/cdrom?
If so, should some link be made to /dev/cdrom, if other programs may
be querying /dev/cdrom for the sake of Linux standard convention, or
is /dev/cdrom already a link, which was broken in my case?


Take a look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persisten-cd.rules, which may
be pointing to the wrong hardware.  Just delete that file and udev
will create it again on the next boot.




Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:49:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 Let's look at the obvious solution then:
 
 remove the hard drive containing sensitive data, replace it with a new
 one, sell laptop.
 
 Ka-Ching! Problem solved.

Unfortunately, the hard drive seller gets more Ka-Ching and the OP gets
less. It's always a trade off.


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Re: [gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild Loop

2009-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:51:33 + (UTC), James wrote:

 Well I keep getting the same 32 files to rebuild
 even after running 'emerge @preserved-rebuild'
 several times. Here is the list of files:

Where is the list of libraries causing the need for the rebuild?

This is given in the message that tells you to run emerge
@preserved-rebuild.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Blocks with xz-utils lzma-utils

2009-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:12:19 -0600, Dale wrote:

 You are both right.  I tried installing a later version on the blockers 
 but not the packages that depended on them.  So, I added the following 
 to my package.keyword and package.unmask files:
 
 =app-portage/eix-0.18.3
 =app-arch/libarchive-2.7.1
 
 Portage is now happy.  Every time I think I have figured out portage
 and these blocker messages, I get thrown a curve ball. lol 

Ah, the fun of running a mixed arch/~arch system :)

BTW ~ is usually better than = in this situation.


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Re: [gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild Loop

2009-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 17 December 2009 19:51:33 James wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Well I keep getting the same 32 files to rebuild
 even after running 'emerge @preserved-rebuild'
 several times. Here is the list of files:
 
 
 
 ebuild   R   ] sys-fs/reiserfsprogs-3.6.19-r2

[snip]

ldd is your friend

run on those apps to see what they are bitching about. Compare that to the 
app's DEPENDs and what is present on-disk. Based on that, make a 
determination. Or post the results asking for assistance.

Without that info, help is normally not possible



-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Where is my /dev/fd0?

2009-12-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:21:28 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote:

  It's not IDE (IDE/ATAPI floppy support is for things like LS-120
  drives), but CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD, found in Device Drivers -  Block
  devices -  Normal floppy disk support. If it's compiled as a module,
  maybe you just need to modprobe floppy?
   
 I looked at that path in the config, it turns out that it was disabled 
 (by default! why?).

For the same reason that support for punched card readers is disabled by
default.


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Re: [gentoo-user] freeglut fails to compile because X11/extensions/XInput.h not found

2009-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 17 December 2009 19:30:32 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thursday 17 December 2009 14:09:37 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
   Hi.  This happened on my latest update -- looks like the package which
   used to contain this file no longer does -- any ideas on how to
   proceed?
  
   Thanks.
 
  nazgul ~ # locate XInput.h
  /usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h
  nazgul ~ # equery belongs `locate XInput.h`
   * Searching for /usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h ...
  x11-libs/libXi-1.3 (/usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h)
 
 However the newer version of this package has eliminated this file --
 this is my whole problem.Now I re emerged the package which had an
 update and how its here.  I guess portage did things in the wrong order
 or something.
 
 Thanks.
 

Hmm. Odd. Apparently, you are suffering from one or more of the following:

solar flares
cosmic rays
a quantum level event
leprechauns
tooth fairies
jubbjubb monsters


{well, it's as good as any other explanation :-) }
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Preparing a laptop for sale

2009-12-17 Thread BRM
From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk

 On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:49:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Let's look at the obvious solution then:
  remove the hard drive containing sensitive data, replace it with a new
  one, sell laptop.
  Ka-Ching! Problem solved.
 Unfortunately, the hard drive seller gets more Ka-Ching and the OP gets
 less. It's always a trade off.

Personally, I'd just go ahead and do the DBAN route as already mentioned.
It's worth it - and easy enough to do. (I've done it for one of my work laptops 
that I purchased from work a couple years ago.)

On the other hand, if you really don't want to do that - keep your hard drive,
and sell without the hard drive. The buyer can get another one for it 
themselves.

Ben





[gentoo-user] Re: off-topic: logitech mice (MX1000)

2009-12-17 Thread walt

On 12/17/2009 01:23 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote:



I do have two InputDevice sections in xorg.conf about the mouse, but my
ServerLayout only mentions one.  I attach both my log and xorg.conf
below.


If you are using evdev (and you are) you should delete (or comment out)
anything to do with Input from your xorg.conf, e.g. these sections:

Section InputDevice
Identifier Keyboard0
Driver kbd
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier Mouse0
Driver mouse
Option Protocol auto
Option Device /dev/input/mice
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
EndSection

and also remove/comment these lines from ServerLayout:
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard

The evdev driver is intended to replace *all* of that stuff.

BTW, I remember having a section like this in my xorg.conf, but
I don't have it any longer and I don't think you really need it:
Section InputDevice
Identifier Logitech MX1000
Driver evdev
Option Device /dev/input/event2
EndSection

I think that the evdev driver is loaded by default now, so you
don't need to mention it in xorg.conf.

Caveat:  I needed to add /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-logitech.fdi
to replace two lines in my xorg.conf because my mouse has four
buttons and no wheel.  You obviously don't have that problem, so
I think your mouse should Just Work without any extra fdi files.




[gentoo-user] Re: fstab and cdrom question

2009-12-17 Thread walt

On 12/17/2009 12:14 PM, Denis wrote:

The default udev scripts should have been able to automatically create
symlinks for optical devices in /dev. Whether yours is broken, you can
find out by trying to ls -l /dev/cdrom :)


It appears the links /dev/cdrom1 and /dev/cdrw1 are tied to /dev/hda.
Is that the default behavior instead of /dev/cdrom now?


That's what I have on my machines, except that I have /dev/cdrom instead of
cdrom1.  Do you have more than one cd device?  If not, you should delete
/etc/udev/rules/70-persistent-cd.rules and reboot.





[gentoo-user] Re: fstab and cdrom question

2009-12-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 12/17/2009 08:42 PM, Denis wrote:

Hello folks,

Quick question.

My main HD is SATA and gets /dev/sda in fstab.  My CDROM, which is the
only device on the IDE bus, seems to be /dev/hda.  That's what
Audacious declared when it was looking for a CD to play.  I had CDROM
device forced to /dev/cdrom in Audacious, unwittingly, before and was
wondering why my CDs were not playing!  However, my fstab is still
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,user
   0 0 - so should I switch this to /dev/hda instead of /dev/cdrom?
If so, should some link be made to /dev/cdrom, if other programs may
be querying /dev/cdrom for the sake of Linux standard convention, or
is /dev/cdrom already a link, which was broken in my case?

Thank you,
Denis


You don't need an fstab entry at all.  These days, when you insert a CD, 
it will get mounted automatically and appear in /media, just like USB 
storage devices.





Re: [gentoo-user] Where is my /dev/fd0?

2009-12-17 Thread Marcus Wanner

On 12/17/2009 5:16 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:21:28 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote:

   

It's not IDE (IDE/ATAPI floppy support is for things like LS-120
drives), but CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD, found in Device Drivers -   Block
devices -   Normal floppy disk support. If it's compiled as a module,
maybe you just need to modprobe floppy?

   

I looked at that path in the config, it turns out that it was disabled
(by default! why?).
 

For the same reason that support for punched card readers is disabled by
default.
   
But they're so useful...and the computer we got a year ago had one. Do 
things really go obsolete like that after decades of prevalence?


Marcus



Re: [gentoo-user] usb HD cannot boot without initramfs

2009-12-17 Thread Xi Shen
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Steffen Loos fe...@gmx.net wrote:
 Xi Shen schrieb:

 sorry, could you be more specific? i cannot follow you ;)


 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Thursday 17 December 2009 09:47:14 Xi Shen wrote:

 hi,

 i installed my gentoo on a usb HD disk, and i have compiled scsi, usb,
 ata drivers into the kernel. but when boot, the system still cannot
 find my usb hd, but it did find my hd on my laptop. what i missed?

 You missed the filesystem driver for / compiled into the kernel

 1. please don't toppost!

ok. but it looks like the gmail web client encourage top post ;)

 2. What alan said: have you compiled ext4 or whatever you use for your
 root-fs compiled _into_ the kernel?

yes, i use ext4 and it is compiled into the kernel.

 3. Suggestion from me: have you _all_ usb-staff, you need to access the
 usb-hd compiled _into_ the kernel? (e.a. usb_storage) not as module!

i compiled the uhci and ehci into the kernel. i need to double check
the usb_storage thing. maybe this is the thing i missed.



 Steffen





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Re: [gentoo-user] usb HD cannot boot without initramfs

2009-12-17 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 09:14:48AM +0800, Xi Shen wrote:
 ok. but it looks like the gmail web client encourage top post ;)

That doesn't make it easy to read. This is how we see it when you top-post:

A: Because you are doing it wrong.

  On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
  wrote:

then you didn't trim other junk that is irrelevant.

Q. Why is my mouse eating all the cheese when I configured it no cheese?

 i compiled the uhci and ehci into the kernel. i need to double check
 the usb_storage thing. maybe this is the thing i missed.

UHCI is for Intel and VIA ... OHCI for others (these are both USB 1.0{1}
EHCI is for all USB 2.0

Make sure you have the correct UHCI/OHCI ... you only need one of those.
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lesson afterward. But properly learned, the lesson forever changes
the man.



Re: [gentoo-user] freeglut fails to compile because X11/extensions/XInput.h not found

2009-12-17 Thread covici
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday 17 December 2009 19:30:32 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
  Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Thursday 17 December 2009 14:09:37 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
Hi.  This happened on my latest update -- looks like the package which
used to contain this file no longer does -- any ideas on how to
proceed?
   
Thanks.
  
   nazgul ~ # locate XInput.h
   /usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h
   nazgul ~ # equery belongs `locate XInput.h`
* Searching for /usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h ...
   x11-libs/libXi-1.3 (/usr/include/X11/extensions/XInput.h)
  
  However the newer version of this package has eliminated this file --
  this is my whole problem.Now I re emerged the package which had an
  update and how its here.  I guess portage did things in the wrong order
  or something.
  
  Thanks.
  
 
 Hmm. Odd. Apparently, you are suffering from one or more of the following:
 
 solar flares
 cosmic rays
 a quantum level event
 leprechauns
 tooth fairies
 jubbjubb monsters
 
 
 {well, it's as good as any other explanation :-) }

Yep, very strange, however this update went OK, except for that, so I'll
knock on my metal desk -- sorry no wood available -- to make sure
nothing goes wrong.


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How do
you spend it?

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 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] usb HD cannot boot without initramfs

2009-12-17 Thread Xi Shen
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 03:47:14PM +0800, Penguin Lover Xi Shen squawked:
 i installed my gentoo on a usb HD disk, and i have compiled scsi, usb,
 ata drivers into the kernel. but when boot, the system still cannot
 find my usb hd, but it did find my hd on my laptop. what i missed?

 I don't completely understand your question: if it cannot find your
 usb hd and you installed on the usb HD, how did you boot?


i boot from the livedvd, and installed it on my usb hd. and the system
can boot normally if i use genkernel, i think it is because the
initramfs generated by genkernel loaded something that i missed.

 Did you install the bootloader on the USB HD?

yes, i use grub.

 Did you get to the bootloader screen at all?

yes, i can see the screen, and the kernel load log. but the system
dies when trying to mount the root and start the system.

 What cannot find your USB HD?

 Tell us in more detail what you did, and what didn't work. Your
 description is so vague that for all I know cosmic rays could've
 caused your problem.

 W
 --
 `I think you ought to know that I'm feeling very
 depressed.'
 `Life, don't talk to me about life.'
 `Here I am, brain the size of a planet and they ask me to
 take you down to the bridge. Call that job satisfaction?
 'Cos I don't.'
 `I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my
 left side.'

 - Guess who.
 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1105 days, 13:11





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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: off-topic: logitech mice (MX1000)

2009-12-17 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:34:51 -0800 walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 12/17/2009 01:23 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote:


 I do have two InputDevice sections in xorg.conf about the mouse, but my
 ServerLayout only mentions one.  I attach both my log and xorg.conf
 below.

 If you are using evdev (and you are) you should delete (or comment out)
 anything to do with Input from your xorg.conf, e.g. these sections:

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Keyboard0
 Driver kbd
 EndSection

 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Mouse0
 Driver mouse
 Option Protocol auto
 Option Device /dev/input/mice
 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
 EndSection

 and also remove/comment these lines from ServerLayout:
 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard

 The evdev driver is intended to replace *all* of that stuff.

Yes, but those lines are effectively commented out.
I have three ServerLayout sections but only the first counts (see
excerpt from the xorg.conf man page below).  The first ServerLayout
section (the active one) references the logitech mouse and not mouse0
so the mouse driver is not loaded at all.

I do specify the keyboard, but that is working fine.

 BTW, I remember having a section like this in my xorg.conf, but
 I don't have it any longer and I don't think you really need it:
 Section InputDevice
 Identifier Logitech MX1000
 Driver evdev
 Option Device /dev/input/event2
 EndSection

 I think that the evdev driver is loaded by default now, so you
 don't need to mention it in xorg.conf.

 Caveat:  I needed to add /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-logitech.fdi
 to replace two lines in my xorg.conf because my mouse has four
 buttons and no wheel.  You obviously don't have that problem, so
 I think your mouse should Just Work without any extra fdi files.

I do not use the hal stuff.  I was scared off by the horror stories
reported here.  Perhaps this summer I will give it a go.

thanks again for helping,
allan

SERVERLAYOUT SECTION
   The config file may have multiple ServerLayout sections.  A
   server layout represents the binding of one or more screens
   (Screen sections) and one or more input devices (InputDevice
   sections) to form a complete configuration.  In multi-head
   configurations, it also specifies the relative layout of the
   heads.  A ServerLayout section is considered active if it is
   referenced by the -layout command line option or by an Option
   DefaultServerLayout entry in the ServerFlags section (the
   former takes precedence over the latter).  If those options are
   not used, the first ServerLayout section found in the config file
   is con- sidered the active one.  If no ServerLayout sections are
   present, the single active screen and two active (core) input
   devices are selected as described in the relevant sections above.



[gentoo-user] Re: freeglut fails to compile because X11/extensions/XInput.h not found

2009-12-17 Thread walt

On 12/17/2009 02:17 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:


solar flares
cosmic rays
a quantum level event
leprechauns
tooth fairies
jubbjubb monsters


Single malt, I hope?  ;o)




Re: [gentoo-user] Where is my /dev/fd0?

2009-12-17 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Marcus Wanner marc...@cox.net wrote:
 On 12/17/2009 5:16 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:21:28 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote:



 It's not IDE (IDE/ATAPI floppy support is for things like LS-120
 drives), but CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD, found in Device Drivers -   Block
 devices -   Normal floppy disk support. If it's compiled as a module,
 maybe you just need to modprobe floppy?



 I looked at that path in the config, it turns out that it was disabled
 (by default! why?).


 For the same reason that support for punched card readers is disabled by
 default.


 But they're so useful...and the computer we got a year ago had one. Do
 things really go obsolete like that after decades of prevalence?

 Marcus

Yep... why deal with floppies when you can get a tiny little stick
that'll hold about 5688 times as much (8GB), read and write faster, is
more portable, and costs about $20 US on Newegg (without shopping
around even a little to find one on sale). Windows XP is the last big
reason I've dealt with floppy drives in the past 2/3 of a decade or so
now, and that's only because the only other option in getting screwy
chipset drivers at install time is to rebuild the install media
(nforce fake raid on Dell XPSes, more often than not).

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: freeglut fails to compile because X11/extensions/XInput.h not found

2009-12-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 18 December 2009 04:28:32 walt wrote:
 On 12/17/2009 02:17 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  solar flares
  cosmic rays
  a quantum level event
  leprechauns
  tooth fairies
  jubbjubb monsters
 
 Single malt, I hope?  ;o)
 

Sadly, no. I come from a long line of fine single malt liqueur makers but 
can't imbibe the stuff (it makes me wickedly ill even in small doses)


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