Re: [gentoo-user] Multilib or not?
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:08 PM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose that I'll have no problem with wine or nvidia-drivers based on preview discussion. But how about grub, zsnes, skype or some .bin games installed outside portage, like Aminesia? Don't know. I'm assuming that I'll also have no problems with codecs, because since I compiled mplayer with vdpau support I can play all video stuff with it. There will be some codecs which mplayer doesn't support. Stuff whose particular spec has been lost to time, missing documentation and win32codecs. That will continue to be the case until the reverse-engineering geeks find time and samples to cover the remainder. Honestly, I don't see much of a point to getting rid of multilib, unless you're looking for some sense of systemic purity. I do know people who do that. (But they also avoid anything closed-source, which certainly helps.) I have to agree on that, its just too much work for no apparent gain. Unless we are talking about mission critical systems where we should avoid any point of possible failure, but I guess if it was the case, ZNES wouldn't be installed :D But maybe I'm the wrong person to ask, I still run a 32 bits system, never bothered to go full 64 for the same exact reason above (and since this system is almost 6 years old, with no reinstall, just minor adjustments to hardware changes, I don't plan on a full install so soon). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:16, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote: There is actually a huge amount of information available, giving a high level of pseudo-uniqueness. There was a web site that showed you how much it could glean from even an anonymous session, but I can't remember where is was. Somewhere like the EFF. I guess you mean https://panopticlick.eff.org/ My results from work: Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 1,939,102 tested so far. Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys at least 20.89 bits of identifying information. Funny, I get exactly the same thing except add one to the large number. I guess you tested before I did. How does one avoid this but still have sites work? Use Stallman's way [1] Seriously, I am not concerned with Google's policy change, it affects absolutely nothing on my online life. I keep using their services cause I find them the best to use, I would change otherwise. Its the same reason I run Windows on my HTPC, and Linux at work and my netbook, efficiency. If you worry too much, you end up insane. [1] http://stallman.org/stallman-computing.html -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Resurrecting a Gentoo install
If its not being used and outage is not a problem, I would recommend reinstalling. I'm against doying it, but 2 years is a lot, if you have any servers (MySQL, PHP) it would be an issue, you'll have MAJOR changes to X, OpenRC and I'm not even talking about the kernel, udev, etc. I would back it up and reinstall, guess it would take less time and be way smoother. Just my 2 cents... On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 20:37, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I have an old Gentoo system that hasn't been updated or used at all in at least 2 years. It's remote but I have SSH access. I've updated portage but I thought I should check with you guys before I plow ahead with emerge -DuN world. It won't be used for anything until I bring it up to speed and someone can physically log in and issue commands a couple times per week so an outage isn't the end of the world. Any advice? - Grant -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] NAS for Windows - does any Wiki solution 'just work'?
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:43, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Spidey spide...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:38, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Years ago I tried this basic guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/quick-samba-howto.xml I don't remember why but I didn't have much luck with it. However it's been updated and cleaned up a lot so maybe it's OK. Thanks in advance for any ideas. Cheers, Mark The easiest solution, most used, is probably SAMBA. You should give it a chance again. Yes. Samba is the basis of the link above, and I figure it's going to be the underlying technology that does the work. I was just wondering if there was a more user oriented, possibly GUI based app that did all the dirty work sort of like the CUPS web interface does with CUPS configuration. SWAT? -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] move to xfce and forget kde and gnome
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:50, András Csányi sayusi.a...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/19 Space Cake spaceca...@gmail.com: my question is what is the easiest way to get rid of kde/gnome stuff? is this enough to change my useflags to -kde and -gnome? Is there any list what I can safely unmerge in this case? I think we agree. Nowadays I use xfce because KDE is hungry and makes my system slower. But there is a few application (amarok - big bloatware but I like the amarok services, umbrello, krusader, kile, etc) which is needed and I always have a full KDE install beside xfce. What is your strategy? You will not use any KDE related application or if something is needed you will install it separately? Totally agree. I am a XFCE user, but I just love K3B, and it needs kdelibs. I don't like KDE or Gnome, but I can live with compiling some of their libs... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 22:48, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I have 1 server running Gentoo for about 4 years, 2 workstations and 2 more machines performing different tasks. All this machines at work. At home I haven't changed to Linux yet... Don't think I'll ever will, too many variables (like the fiance, for instance). The most intersting case was an old Pentium 100 MHz, 48MB of RAM that was running Gentoo for about 2 years at work before retiring, serving HTTP, FTP, MySQL, PHP and a long uptime. Took me a while to install (lets say a month) cause of the long compile times and some tech difficulties (like for instance booting an LiveCD from such an old machine). It was fun. I also had Gentoo for an year in my old netbook (Asus EEE 900). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] best cflags and cpu for gentoo qemu virtual machine
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:54, Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm creating a router based on Gentoo, that needs to run as a vm using qemu. The mother machine will be Core I7 4 cores. What cpu and CFLAGS should I use to get the best performance out of this vm? If you intend to run this VM on different hardware or distribute it in any way (so you don't really know on what hardware it will run) your best bet is to set a generic arch like i686 or lower, OR hope the VM is run on software based emulation (slow) so you don't have to worry about what CPU is running it. From my experience with qemu, you'll have a lot of requirements too, like bridging and kernel module for virtual interfaces (tun/tap). Now, if this will run on your machine, with kqemu, you'll set march on your guest as your host is... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and kernel panics.
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 05:28, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 00:31:00 -0500, Dale wrote: * Searching for nvidia* ... [IP-] [ ] media-video/nvidia-settings-**260.19.29:0 [IP-] [ ] x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers-**275.09.07:0 root@fireball / # I'm on the latest of everything that is in the tree. No you're not. You are mixing ~amd64 drivers and amd64 settings. It is unlikely to be the cause of your crashes, but you've tried all the likely causes. I agree. I don't think it is the settings one either but guess what, I'm going to try them too. I did nvidia for the drivers but never checked the settings part. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm going to beat this dead horse a little more. BRB Have you tried a generic video drive to see if the problem is really related to video/kernel? Whenever the video was going crazy because kernel modules/settings/xorg and driver change, I just switch to VESA and see if it works as it should. Then I can blame video drivers. VESA and no xorg.conf was my way of testing it. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Goodbye, Gentoo
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 20:28, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like it's time to take Gentoo off of my main machine. I feel a little sad about it, or I'd just quietly go away. So, since I am familiar with Ubuntu from work, and have it on a couple of laptops, I'm installing from the Ubuntu 11.04 live disk (video is just fine). Good luck. A friend just dropped Ubuntu cause they simply decided to use Unity, and the dashboard is just (his words) weird. He was used to the Gnome look, and they simply changed everthing with an upgrade. I stick with Gentoo, at least I know my next upgrade won't change my whole interface... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
I have a similar entry, but have never used the softlevel= flag, I simply append single at the end of the kernel call and it boots in single user (root password or ctrl+d to continue). On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 07:34, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I updated my kernel and had to reboot. I usually boot to single user mode and rebuild my video drivers. Since I have this in my grub list, I just select single user and it boots to single user mode. Well, not any more. This is my current settings: title Gentoo kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=single root@fireball / # I went back and looked at the guide but no mention of this. I don't see anything in the man pages either. What is the correct way to define a runlevel to boot to in grub with the new openrc? Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] grub menu and the new openrc
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 20:12, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: I have a similar entry, but have never used the softlevel= flag, I simply append single at the end of the kernel call and it boots in single user (root password or ctrl+d to continue). I did get this to work: title Gentoo single user kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 rw single So, all I need now is to figure out how to get this work: title Gentoo boot level kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.38-r5-1 root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=boot It appears the softlevel= is no longer working with the new openrc. It looks like the docs need to be updated. I also tried init= and it doesn't work either. Time to go farther up the food chain I guess. The docs need to be changed at least. Updated docs are always good, but I wonder why do you need this. If I need single user I simply press e, edit the line and add single, followed by a b to boot. That is a for maintenance only so I really don't see a need for it at grub menu, same wth the other runlevels, all you gotta do is append nox or use Interactive (again, this is only if something is broken, I can't see myself doing this twice in a week)... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 18:55, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I was curious, what's the results of the openrc update for people that have done theirs? Is it pretty simple and just works or are there issues? I'm mostly interested in x86 and amd64 since that is what I have. Just a simple works here and I'm X86 or amd64 would be nice. List issues if you had any. For me it was a breeze. I have two machines running testing for some time and a server that was an year behind in updates. I decided to update it now. The easy part was the OpenRC migration. The hard was mysql (was still 4.1), php, apache (gave up and installed lighttpd instead) and (oh yeah) kernel. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo minimal CD not runable on 64MB RAM machine
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 09:27, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Um, why do you want to use gentoo on such a system anyway? If it will be a text-only system, being used as router or something, okay, this would probably work, but other distros could do this as well. I have run and mantained a Pentium 100 (yeah, I know), with 48MB of RAM (EDO) running for 2 years straight, it served DHCP, HTTP, FTP and MySQL to around 90 stations with not much traffic or requests. I strongly recomend distcc, but some packages refuse to use it (notably gcc and glibc, AFAIK) so prepare for some compile time. I recall spending 5 days in a GCC compile... Anyway, they said it couldn't be done, and I did it, lol. The old Gentoo minimal was able to boot in this system with some tricks (using a floppy to load the CDROM boot, cause obviously the BIOS was unable to boot from CD and some parameters passed to LILO disabling almost every module). Last time I tested, DSL-N was able to boot and install Gentoo with no problems in such a system. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 22:51, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: walt wrote: On 01/10/2011 01:37 PM, Dale wrote: pk wrote: On 2011-01-10 14:05, walt wrote: You guys may be losing interest in grub2, but I'm having fun, so... Although I've not been involved in this discussion I still enjoy your progress (I've been meaning to try out grub2 myself since grub1 is basically EOLed but haven't had the time yet)... please continue! Same here. I'm noticing how complicated this thing is. I'm sorry I've given that impression -- the complicated part is finding comprehensible examples to copy, but thanks to your previous links I'm gaining on it. I'm now able to write a functioning grub.cfg file for grub2, but I don't want to publish prematurely ;) It wasn't just you, it was other things I read too. Does it have audio too? Yes, but very primitive. No speech, but you can give it a series of numbers representing tones and durations -- to make it sound like a video game arcade. If you really want to. But I don't. Oh God, it can make sounds. O_O My first impression of grub2 was PAIN. In a foolish attempt to beautify my Desktop, I thought about installing a clean framebuffer logo for boot, and, why not, beautify the bootloader too. Gosh, 2 hours spent in an effort to configure, useless. I don't remember the exact error, but an hour of trying and I quit. Well, it messed the whole boot, so it took me twice the time spent on configuring to get rid of the thing. I never realized how happy I was with simple grub. Gosh, I even missed LILO while fighting with grub2. And LILO was a pain too, but I knew that when I first had to use it. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: VPS has issues emerging everything
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 18:10, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Simon turne...@gmail.com wrote: This issue happend after a 'emerge -uDN world' after I had not done any updates for a bit over 60 days. (I was just too busy) I already have: sys-apps/portage-2.1.9.25 and I don't have smartctl, what pkg is it in? I'm not sure it will give valid info though as this is a VPS and everything is XENified. My root device is /dev/xvda to give you an idea... But I did run an fsck, a pretty thorough one like fsck.ext3 -c -c -f or something like that... I also added another option that made it super verbose, so I don't know if anything was found, just that *filesystem was modified* by it... I just did the following emerge, these packages had not been recompiled by the emerge -e system that crashed. They all compiled top shape, but the problem doesn't happen on every package, so it's hard to tell... emerge app-shells/bash sys-apps/util-linux sys-fs/e2fsprogs dev-lang/python sys-apps/portage sys-apps/baselayout sys-fs/udev sys-apps/busybox I will redo a simple fsck.ext3 -c -c -f /dev/xvda and see what it says exactly (if it says anything). And then i will --sync and -e @system again... I'll reply to the list with my results... Thanks, Simon smartctl is in smartmontools. Possibly consider the ~ version of portage. I'm currently at 2.2.0_alpha13. It works well for me. __Definitely__ check out Dale's suggestion that possibly python-3 got selected. I don't think the error is portage related, the steps that the OP mention where things freeze are config/compile. If it wasn't a virtual machine, I would suspect cpu throttling, overheating or even memory corruption. Those could apply to VMs, but the host running Xen would have general problems. Maybe trying a manual compile, just to exclude portage as a player... You could monitor IO and CPU and see exactly what process is resource hungry. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Changed monitor and even the BIOS screen doesn't show up.
2010/12/14 Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org Try using the same cable that works with the old monitor, to connect the new monitor. You're assuming Dale's computer has a male DB plug on its back. Older monitors didn't have those, the cable would simply pop from the case, so you can't really change this older monitors signal cable, unless you're fond on pain and wanna strip it and change the plug manually (soldering and stuff). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Changed monitor and even the BIOS screen doesn't show up.
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:38, Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/12/14 Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org Try using the same cable that works with the old monitor, to connect the new monitor. You're assuming *Dale's computer* has a male DB plug on its back. Older monitors didn't have those, the cable would simply pop from the case, so you can't really change this older monitors signal cable, unless you're fond on pain and wanna strip it and change the plug manually (soldering and stuff). *Dale's monitor*, not computer... Sorry, didn't read it before sending... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: netbook
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 06:56, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:33:13 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: Do *NOT* get a machine with a Poulsbo video chip. Seconded. I bought a Dell Mini 10 - lovely keyboard and display but the GMA500 video chip sucked, as did the Broadcom wireless that needed out of kernel drivers. It wasn't just the inconvenience, the thing kept locking up. I believe later Dell Minis, like the 10v, have the GMA950 chip, which is a proper Intel chip, but still Broadcom wireless. Had problems with such hardware (some MSI netbooks) like Graphics and Wireless. An Asus EEE solved most issues, the only one remaining is the battery that reports remaining capacity in percentage instead of mwh, everything else works great. I had an old EEE 701, switched to a 900, and so far, I don't see a reson to upgrade. I like SSDs mostly cause I can (and have) drop my netbook from a certain height, or thrown my bag in the sofa (forgetting it was inside, and on) and never worry about my HDD failing. Also, less power, noise, heat, and some (not very big) read speed improve. Besides, its a netbook, its supposed to be a small storage, fast and simple device. I carry a backup of the whole system (Dual boot XP and Ubuntu NR) with me in a pendrive. I used to run Gentoo on it, worked great, I'm planning on installing Gentoo and ditching UNR, but that will take some time. Anyway, my brother have an 1000H, and that works great too with Linux. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Disk failure - Buffer I/O error on device sda2, logical block 1289 lost page write due to I/O error on sda2
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 13:41, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/10/9 Fatih Tümen fthtmn+gen...@gmail.com: Hi, When I ran eix hdf command, all of a sudden my usb drive started making weird noises. I only have ccache, distfiles and packaes directories on sda2, the usb disk partition. I don't know why eix waked up the disk. Eix hung there non-responding for a moment as the disk kept making noises, so I interrupted the task. Immediately checked the logs[0] and umounted the device as a reflex. Hi, I recently had USB external hdd that started to make clicking noises and beeping sounds and I couldn't access it at all anymore. I thought oh no, click of death... but I also noticed very faint high-pitch sound coming from the power supply. I contacted the hdd manufacturer and they sent me a new power supply for free. Everything worked perfectly after replacing it. In the past, with the same drive in fact, I also had problem with the USB link dropping, which was causing disk corruption. I tried a different USB cable but same problem persisted. Who knows if this was also caused by the bad power supply, or USB hub overload on my computer. I had about 10 USB devices attached at the time. I removed some and moved around to spread the load out a bit and it worked fine after that. Since replacing the power supply, I've used the same hdd with 2 other computers and haven't have any issues so far. Also had PSU problems with external drives a while ago, I asked a friend to modidy a full ATX computer PSU for me so it could power two drives, never had problems again (the psu that comes with those things is just too cheap, tend to overheat and fail a lot). I never use 2.5 HDD USB enclosures for constant workload with no cooling at all (most cases for 2.5 drives have no cooler and rely on heat transfer from an aluminum body, wich is simply unreliable). On the other hand, I had a new, cooled 3.5 HDD fail on me after two days operation. It was promptly replaced by Seagate. The dread click of death... Of course I tested it on a SATA controller before calling it dead. Funny story. I had one drive that failed once (clicking) and I read somewhere to cool it. So I put the damn thing on the refrigerator, took it out after a while (it was so cold!), plugged in, and what the heck, it started working again and I was able to backup all of the data. After that it worked for a long time before failing again, lol. Now I always cool a clicking drive before replacing it. True story. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fire the fox.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 03:21, Francesco Talamona francesco.talam...@know.eu wrote: On Sunday 19 September 2010, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Is it just me? Or does Firefox get slower every release? And less stable. I got myself up to the latest, and I cannot install my 4 add-ons (xmarks, AdBlockPlus, Noscript, Stumble-upon) without it crashing. Seg fault sometimes. I've got ECC memory, and no reported problems, and it does not help to clear the profiles (rename ~/.mozilla) and re-emerge. Grr. Ditto. Every time slower and less stable. And when it crashes makes the X destop crash too, I use it with firebug and it's slow as molasses. Looking forward to FF4, still not tried on Linux. greets FT -- Linux Version 2.6.35-gentoo-r7, Compiled #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 17 21:01:33 CEST 2010 Two 2.4GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processors, 4GB RAM, 9648.04 Bogomips Total aemaeth Well, guess I'm lucky then. I used it since 2.x and never had any problems. Never needed other browser in Linux. Looking forward for 4.x, but still, 3.6.x is my personal choice. Don't like chromium, not enough extensions, can't stand Opera, Safari or Konqueror for the same reason. If flashblock, noscript and adblock were available at any browser I could try it, but still, I don't see it in a near future. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:31, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:18 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gentoo at gmail.com writes: I just looked at the manual for this TV online and it looks like it has Just Scan mode which could potentially show you the original image by pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote control. So you might want to try again to see if this option does what you need. :) THANKS, never tried that button. It does not permanently set though... the default is 16:9 (which should work), 'wide fit', then 4:3, then 'just scan'. 'just scan' does the trick. It does not permanently set though... What's the link to the manual...? I never could find it. http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/200911/20091103184905109/BN59-00785F-02Eng.pdf Accourding to the manual, it is possible to change the input source name. I would advice the OP to try again what I suggested, I have a very similar Samsung TV/Monitor, and using DVI and VGA works perfectly with the computer, but I started using an HDMI cable, and the image would distort, all borders would be missing, till I change the name of the HDMI2 (the one I'm using) to PC. Voila, everything to the right place. That's not written at the manual (neither yours, not the one for my TV), I learned it using a forum for HTPC owners. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf (HDMI vs DVI-D)
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 15:31, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, We'll I've got a new samsung monitor 2333HD-1 that is verified 1920x1080. Finally, I got it working on a dvi-d-2-dvi-d video cable with no problems...(minimal xorg.conf) and ati-drivers. OK, so I switch to a DVI-Don video card to HDMI on the monitor and it comes in, but the bottom and sides are missing. OK so I found this thread that I'm guessing is on the mark: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23826 But, I'm a little bit 'chicken' with xorg.conf, not to mention messing with the dot clock et al... CLUCK CLUCK CLUCK Anyone want to venture a guess about the display settings, suggested in the link? that I should use? A better way? Here's the (example) math I use to use: # DisplaySize 426 266 # width = (1680pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 427 -- 426 # hieght = (1050pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 267 -- 266 Here is what's working with the dvi-dvi cable: Section Monitor Identifier aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 Option VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver Option ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor Option DPMS true HorizSync 30-81 VertRefresh 56-75 EndSection Section Device Identifier aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Driver fglrx BusID PCI:2:0:0 # Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true EndSection Section Screen Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0]-0 Device aticonfig-Device[0]-0 Monitor aticonfig-Monitor[0]-0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1920x1080 1680x1050 1280x1024 1024x768 EndSubSection EndSection Have you tried setting the INPUT NAME of the HDMI to PC using the remote (on TV)? My Samsung does the same, after I set my HDMI as PC everything is at the right place. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] USB printer and new cups
just remove the usblp module (blacklist it or remove it completely from the kernel, if its already a module, modprobe -r it) and restart cups. Cups uses raw usb devices. It should appear at the web interface. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome bluetooth in Gentoo
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 06:46, Damian damian.o...@gmail.com wrote: Did anybody could manage to get gnome-bluetooth working? First I had problems with permissions, so I added some udev rules and the permissions in rfkill. But now, if I launch the applet I just get a big button that says turn on bluetooth. I did that but nothing happened. With blueman every worked fine, but since that package no longer works on my unstable system I had to search for that alternative. Thanks in advance, Damian. A better question. Why isn't blueman working? I am using testing for a few months now and I use blueman (with a bt mouse, so, its vital). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] wlan0 config questions
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:13, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 07:39:31 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Thanks. that keeps things sane. Now let's start with simple stuff first, manually connecting to an open access point at the public library. Listed below are files /etc/conf.d/net, ~/bin/wi_open, and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf.open. Assuming that I have /etc/sudoers properly set up, is ~/bin/wi_open the correct incantation? It copies the appropriate config to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and then starts and connects wifi. I plan to have multiple config files, to cover different situations. This sounds like an awful lot of work to do something that Wicd will handle almost automatically. Agreed. After many tries I've found that you really need a network manager like WICD with netbooks or notebooks. Mobile devices require an agile and easy interface for networking. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: extract an image from a .doc file?
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 06:46, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi all, A .doc file contains an image. Is there any way to extract the image file in its original format, please? This may seem like a bit of an odd request, so I'll explain. The .doc file is quite large, and it seems like the image it contains must be to blame. I would like to extract the original file of the image and examine it. I have tried in OpenOffice on Windows and Word for Mac. In OpenOffice I can't see any way to save the image file, in Word for Mac I can drag the file to the desktop but it becomes a Picture clipping.pictClipping and is clearly not the original format. I tried running `photorec` on the .doc file, but that just finds the .doc file itself. I thought to use dd to zero over the first few bytes of the .doc - maybe this would make the .doc unrecognisable to photorec, and then photorec would maybe find the image file inside the corrupt document, but I haven't tried that yet. I'm not sure if it'd work, and so I thought I'd ask here to see if anyone knew of an easy way to do this first. TIA for any suggestions, When I want to extract an image from a doc I save it as HTML. It saves images in a separated folder and links it into the HTML. I simply go to the folder and check the image. Hope it helps. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] fsck won't work if ac cord not attached?!
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 16:57, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: And, for the record, while people might be arguing with you, it's not malicious. We are only trying to help. Fine, then read what I say and, until you know better, believe it. Your problem has nothing to do with openrc, kernels, etc. Your filesystem is not cleanly umounting, and thus is marked dirty, mount will not work because its considered danger to mount an unclean fs. FSCK will not run cause it is extremely dangerous to run while on battery, so this is all EXPECTED BEHAVIOR from the software. Running fsck every boot is a workaround, not an answer to your problem. We are trying to give you a solution, not a workaround. What is your netbook model? This can narrow things down. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel build - back in the soup.
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 08:45, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: daid kahl wrote: I tried closely comparing the current working kernel with newly built one. I mean side by side with `make menuconfig' running in both sources. I cannot tell what it is I'm overlooking. Please do not do this. Instead emerge kccmp to compare kernel configurations! It is much easier...trust me, I tried brute-force as well! Thanks for the tip... that tool does look useful. At least for kernel comparison I think it might beat the poop out of the ediff mode in emacs. Although the emacs tools are better in general. I managed to get the kernel figured out... (with plenty of help here) but I think I'll tinker with kccmp, see how it works, and be ready for next time. It's really easy. You just run it with two configuration files as inputs, and it gives a nice X display with different settings, and then settings that are only in one config or the other (resulting from different kernel versions or sub-config options). Answering a dozen or so questions on the cmdline beats the poop out of flopping around in menuconfig, or even worse, 2 instances of menuconfig. What is really maddening is that I once knew how to do the stuff with .config and `make oldconfig'. Here lately I seem to forget things I once knew if I don't use the knowledge for a mnth or two. I always do it from the command line with a web-browser searching http://cateee.net/ for any config I don't know what it is. ~daid Sounds like he may as well use that genkernel thingy that Gentoo has. It never has worked for me but he may have better luck. It may even work on the first try. LOL I've been using genkernel for 4+ years, of course had some problema along the way, nothing that couldn't be handle. I find it really easy to use. Yeah, it worked first time, some tweaking later and BANG! It was perfect! -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] EeePC network problem
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 14:48, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 091030 Stroller wrote: On 30 Oct 2009, at 02:41, Philip Webb wrote: I'm stuck in trying to install Gentoo on my new EeePC 1005HA . There seems to be no easily accessible driver for the Ethernet controller, which is 'Atheros AR8132' (shown via 'lspci'). A very casual Google suggests that this card uses the the atl1e kernel driver / module. EG: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy-lum.git;a=commit;h=949e7063204f568027fa7783c8562ceb32b95a25 says: Add support Atheros ... AR8132 ethernet NICs CONFIG_ATL1E is the wossisname. Have you tried this driver? Yes, as I said in detail in my OP : 'insmod atl1e' works, but as before 'pppoe-start' times out when trying to connect to my ISP; this is using the Gentoo minimal install ISO , which has that driver. As I also said in my OP, I can't compile a driver (or kernel) using the install system, as it doesn't have 'make'. How have others got Gentoo installed on their 1005HA's ? -- did they all use wireless access to the Internet ? Again, does anyone have advice re trying a netless install ? I would simply try any other LiveCD. Knoppix works OK for me on most machines. Gentoo can be installed from any media that's able to use the hardware. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] ASUS EeePC 1000HA : boot query
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 20:30, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I've got my new toy to boot from USB with SystemRescue 1.3.1 , which comes up beautifully with Gentoo using 'Altker32' (the 'default' kernel boots into some kind of emergency mode); despite what the intro help says, the desktop manager is Xfce, which is started via 'wizard' offers basic useful apps, eg Terminal Emelfm Firefox Geany Gparted . There's 1 problem : you hold F2 down to get BIOS, then use Esc for a boot menu (you have to go in/out of BIOS first). However, this doesn't work when I first switch the machine on : M$ XP starts regardless I have to reboot from there to get BIOS, the boot menu the USB (I've disabled 'quiet boot' in BIOS, but POST msgs still don't appear). Is this because it takes a few seconds before the USB stick warms up gets recognised (its light blinks) ? This is important: if that's correct, I can wipe out XP the machine will still recognise the USB stick boot, but if the problem is something else (I don't know what it might be), I fear risking an unbootable box without even the M$ option remaining. Can anyone reassure me ? I have a couple of EEEs and my brother have the same model you have. All three work the same way, you hold ESC while booting (you can just keep it pressed after you power it on) and a boot menu comes. This usually list every device (including USB devices connected). Sometimes you have to try a different USB port or even just plug out and in again and try again, but still, no need to go into windows. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: preferred editor
2009/10/4 Jesús Guerrero i92gu...@terra.es: On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 01:22:47 + (UTC), Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2009-10-03, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 2 Oct 2009, at 17:16, Grant Edwards wrote: ... I don't like nano much either -- I find it rather clumsy, but at least it seems to be safe. It doesn't trash my file every 30 seconds when I start typing content while in command mode. Honestly -- I've used vi infrequently but regularly (probably several times a month) for decades, and my brain just doesn't work the way vi does. What editor do you prefer, then? I'm an emacs guy. I've been using emacs (or various clones such as jove and jed) for 25 years now. IIRC when I was at uni (c 2000) one of the TA's suggested Joe as an alternative to the traditional Unix editors. I have been making a little effort in the last year or two to come to grips with vi or vim, and am starting to prefer it, but ISTM that the problem with traditional Unix editors (i.e. vi emacs) is that they depend upon learning obscure keyboard shortcuts. I don't have any problem learning keystrokes. I do have problems with vi's modality. That's just one of the things I dislike about vi and all the vi clones out there. To me it is like the difference between edit to live and live to edit. It's a good editor and I respect people who like and use vi, but I refuse to use it unless there's absolutely no other option. I've been using vi (or vim, where available) for a few years, and I really like some of the features. What I like most is the double mode (command and edit). I find it really easy to use and saves me a lot of time. But I'm pretty sure that's just because I didn't bother learning any other editor (like emacs), and vi can be found at almost ALL linux distros I've come across in the last few years... It's a matter of taste. Some may argue about that (completely pointless), and that just proves that's useless. You like it, you use it, advocate it, but never impose it. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..
2009/10/2 Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org: On 10/2/2009 1:29 AM, Arthur D. wrote: Agree. There's no need in making vim as depends. But in other hand in vanilla sudo package there's VI hardcoded by default. And MOST if not ALL users who have VIM So basically, you're entire silly argument boils down to I don't like nano, make it go away. And yes, I also don't like nano, don't have it installed, and use vim for everything. Shockingly enough, visudo works *exactly the way I want*. So lets not go lumping most if not all users who have vim into your little rant. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say most, if not all, users who managed to get vim installed and nano removed are more than capable of configuring sudo appropriately. Exactly. Let's stop the flame (yeah, its all flame as this is HIS problem, and we'll never change his mind). SIMPLE: Stage3 is the default way to install Gentoo. Nano is in stage3. Nano supplies EDITOR. Sudo needs EDITOR. Hardcode what we are SURE to have (nano). Change de default if you don't like it (EDITOR variable or sudoers file, or whatever of the dozen choices you have). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..
2009/10/1 Arthur D. spinal...@mail.ru: Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you consider to be stupid what I gonna say. Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But... There're ones who prefer primitive hardcoding over giving the enduser to choose. There're defaults set by someone, that you should respect. Because... Just because he wants so. Because you are nothing. Just another ungrateful user... An example? The package SUDO. It is one of the most mandatory packages in distro. But it totally ignores the enduser's favor in editing. It just hardcodes what the ebuild's maintainer decided. Once and forever. Do you want to remove nano from your system? DON'T DO THAT! Or you gonna get some issues, you shouldn't get, if the things work as expected. I just installed VIM with emerge, and removed nano because I considered it to be absolutely unnecessary in my system. Why I need nano? I am a VIM fan. And here the troubles begin... Run sudo visudo and you get this: ~ $ sudo visudo visudo: no editor found (editor path = /bin/nano) ~ $ env | grep -i edit EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim What a surprise! Hm... Possibly I did something wrong when setting my system, that terminates me with this error?.. So I was forced to spend my time analysing what is wrong with the package and how to fix that. Because I remember it was working as expected in my previous LFS (linuxfromscratch) system. My quests leaded me to the ebuild of sudo. And I saw this nice shiny line there: --with-editor=/bin/nano Stop. I don't use nano. I even don't have it! But the ebuild doesn't check if nano is installed. No care. It was just like said to me: Hey, you are just a stupid moron! Who removes default editor? He-he... I asked the ebuild maintainer to fix this behaviour. And what did he say? You should read manual page of sudo in order to make it work as expected. To make it respect your preferences. And I don't care what editor you prefer. Nano is Gentoo default editor!!! You understand? Stop boring me! I will not change anything! Ha-ha... Actually it was said in other words but the idea is same. Looks like the principle it just works is not for Gentoo users. If you don't agree with ignoring of your preferences, please vote for this bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/votes.cgi?action=show_userbug_id=286017#vote_286017 P.S. Having defaults is not bad. But they should not override our favourites. Section 8.c of the Gentoo Handbook (called System Information) advises you to edit /etc/rc.conf to change your preferences. Either you missed that section or didn't read the documentation, the dev has all the right to answer like that. Creating the bug before asking here was also not a good idea. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..
2009/10/1 Arthur D. spinal...@mail.ru: I gonna bet you added magic line to your sudoers previously or make some other crutches to make it work: Defaults env_keep=EDITOR You lost that bet. Proof? Section 8.c of the Gentoo Handbook (called System Information) advises you to edit /etc/rc.conf to change your preferences. Daniel, I read the book carefully and did all that was need. Also I commented #EDITOR=/bin/nano And set EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim there Any more suggestions? I'm using a 4 years old system, and if I change that line, log out and in again, it changes the env variable and everything works (that means the behavior is probably caused by your configuration). If visudo is still using that configuration, maybe that's because some configuration file has precedence over environment variables. In that case, you gotta find that file and change it. Not an easy task, anyway... I just did an grep -r /bin/nano in /etc. LOL, I know there's a better way, I'm just too lazy to look for it... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Frame-buffer modes on an eee-pc
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 08:02, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: Hello list, My wife has a nice new Asus 1005AH and I'm installing Gentoo on it so that she won't have to struggle with the likes of Lookout Inarush. I've spent several days so far exploring blind alleys while getting the box to boot with a working Ethernet connection; eventually I discovered that I had to go to gentoo-sources-2.6.31, and I now have a running text-mode system. While messing about at the weekend I found a frame-buffer mode I liked, but now I can't reproduce it. The graphics chip is an Intel 945GME Express, I have intelfb and i2c-dev compiled into the 2.6.31 kernel, and this grub entry: root (hd0,4) kernel /kernel-2.6.31-gentoo root=/dev/sda6 video=intelfb:mode=1024x600 softlevel=no-x When I accidentally hit on the configuration I liked, the display started at the standard 80x25, then when it got to Waiting for uevents to be processed the screen blanked and then continued in something like 60 lines (I didn't actually count them); finally at udev-postmount the line length was changef from 80 to something like 120 (I didn't count that either). A very pretty display, clear as crystal. Can anybody point me to the config I need? I've tried google of course but no joy there. Have you tried: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Intel_GMA Specially the part that explains the new Kernel Modesetting? The new GEM and some new features in newer kernels are pretty much all I neeeded for my framebuffer. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Frame-buffer modes on an eee-pc
On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 14:20, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Tuesday 22 September 2009 12:33:59 Willie Wong wrote: Is the framebuffer working? I mean, when you boot with the parameters listed up there, are you stuck in 80x25 or are you in a framebuffer mode that you don't like? No, the fram buffer is not active - I just get 80x25, or some others if I pass a vga= parameter to the kernel. If you are stuck in 80x25 text-mode, the intelfb kernel documentation suggests you try setting the vga mode, see the file vesafb.txt in your kernel documentation directories for details. (The problem is that the vesafb modes do not include one that is the native resolution for the 16:9 aspect ratio displays; on LCDs this will make the text look crappy). And I haven't been able to get the fesa fb to work either. Incidentally, if I have both intelfb and vesafb compiled in (*), vesafb takes over in spite of have intelfb specified via grub. Not what I expected. If the framebuffer is working, maybe you just want to play with the screen resolution? I think that 1024x600 is correct for the 1000 series though. Do you just want a certain number of rows and columns of text on your console? That I think is determined by the FONTS symbol, the configuration should be somewhere around where you enabled framebuffer support. Changing the font size should also change the number of rows and columns. 1024x600 is correct, I'm sure of it. Fiddling with the fonts may help but I'd rather get the underlying screen resolution right first if I can. On yres of 600, if you want something close to 60 lines, then you may want to try using the 8x8 VGA font. The standard 8x16 fonts will provide 30 someodd lines. Thanks for the ideas. * Thanks also to Daniel; I'd overlooked gentoo-wiki, where there seems to be lots of good advice. I'll have a go at that later. As an owner (701 and 900), I researched a lot, and found this: http://code.toofishes.net/cgit/dan/eee.git/tree/kernel-eee/kernelconfig Its an Arch developer that makes a binary package (an eee specific kernel), but he publishes all info using git (including the kernel config file). You can use that to compile your own kernel and it will give you a perfectly working framebuffer at native resolution (800x480 in 701, and 1024x600 in 900). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo sites go down too much!
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 09:38, Volker Armin Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Freitag 14 August 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:29:52 -0600, Joseph wrote: Having Gentoo.org forum or wiki down when most of us rely heavily on them is not acceptable. If something so important to you fails to provide the service you need, you should demand your money back! I have to add that the gentoo foundation acts quickly and refunds all the money you paid for their services without any fuss. And from this whole thread, the conclusion is: If you can't do it better, don't complain at all. (specially when its for free) -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Website disabling right click
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 15:26, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 3:27 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, I have this website that I purchase products off of and this is getting on my nerves. I'm accustomed to right clicking and opening in new tabs and such, especially when searching for products. Is their some way I can disable them blocking right click? Each time I right click something, it gives me a pop up thing. I'm not trying to steal some pics from them or anything, I just want to be able to surf the way I am accustomed to. If you would like to see the site, here is a link. http://www.etoolnet.com/ It's not porn or anything. It's just for air conditioning supplies. I'm open to maybe some extension thing like adblock, which is also installed. I'm not much on editing source code tho. ;-) It doesn't seem to be doing it anymore. Maybe someone got in touch with them and convinced them to change it? I did write them about this so maybe they do listen. o_O It does work for me too now and I haven't changed anything here. No pop up either. Thanks. This is cool. +1 for them actually listening to a customer! Yep, it is a bit rare nowadays. My Dad was in business for years, most of my life. He always said the customer had the best ideas. After all, they are the one spending the money. I like the site now. Just wish the searches would have more than 4 results at a time. Maybe have a little thing to select 10, 20, 50, 100 or something like that. Sort of like Google does. May write them about that too. They are listening at least. +1 for this site and the company. Would definitely buy from them if they shipped international... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Website disabling right click
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 06:27, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Renat Golubchyk wrote: Hi! Am Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:27:11 -0500 schrieb Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com: Hi folks, I have this website that I purchase products off of and this is getting on my nerves. I'm accustomed to right clicking and opening in new tabs and such, especially when searching for products. Is their some way I can disable them blocking right click? Each time I right click something, it gives me a pop up thing. It's Javascript. Go to Preferences - Content - Enable JavaScript and uncheck Disable or replace context menus. You will still get the popup, but the context menu will not be suppressed. Cheers, Renat I blocked the script with adblock so I can right click now. I would like to get rid of that stupid popup tho. I HATE popups. I wonder if popup blocker can block that somehow? I'm using adblock plus and unchecked all boxes in Firefox preferences javascript options. I see no popups, and all links / mouse clicks work fine... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] 10, 100, or 1000mbps uplink?
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 13:48, Grantemailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm about to sign up for a new remote dedicated system and I'm wondering if I should spring for the 100mbps or 1000mbps uplink upgrades from 10mbps? Is there a test I can run to find out? I'm running a lightweight website with maybe 300-400 visitors/day. Most providers will have some sort of tools to monitor your traffic. Go for 10Mbps, and if you notice slowdown, or the mentioned tools report bandwidth problems, upgrade... My guess is 10Mbps is a lot for 300-400 unique hits per day, but if you serve downloads too, then you may have problems in the future, as Kyle said... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X/ati/amd/kde4/hal/evdev/??? problem
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 15:49, Jameswirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Below, maybe you can whittle down my xorg.conf to what I still needs. Hours do not give me anything. A scant xorg.conf file that works is best for me(?). Here the xorg.conf file: Section ServerLayout Identifier Simple Layout Screen 0 aticonfig-Screen[0] 0 0 # InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard # InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer # InputDevice USB Mouse AlwaysCore EndSection Section Files FontPath /usr/share/fonts/util FontPath /usr/share/fonts/encodings FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc FontPath /usr/share/fonts/corefonts FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi FontPath /usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript EndSection Section Module Load dbe # Double buffer extension SubSection extmod Option omit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension EndSubSection # Load freetype # Load xtt Load dri Load glx james addes these Load GLcore Load ddc Load vbe Load extmod Load bitmap # Load type1 Load record EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us EndSection #Section InputDevice # Identifier Mouse1 # Driver mouse # Option Protocol Auto # Auto detect # Option Device /dev/input/mice # Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7 # Option Emulate3Buttons #EndSection Section Monitor Identifier sceptre20 HorizSync 31.0 - 80.0 VertRefresh 60.0 - 75.0 # DisplaySize 426 266 # width = (1680pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 427 -- 426 # hieght = (1050pix / 100pix/in) x [25.4mm/in] = 267 -- 266 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier aticonfig-Monitor[0] Option VendorName ATI Proprietary Driver Option ModelName Generic Autodetecting Monitor Option DPMS true EndSection Section Device #VideoRam 524288 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate Identifier ati1900xt Driver ati EndSection Section Device Identifier aticonfig-Device[0] Driver fglrx EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen 1 Device ati1900xt Monitor sceptre20 DefaultDepth 32 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 Modes 1680x1050 1280x1024 1024x768 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes 1680x1050 1280x1024 1024x768 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes 1680x1050 1280x1024 1024x768 EndSubSection SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 32 Modes 1680x1050 1280x1024 1024x768 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier aticonfig-Screen[0] Device aticonfig-Device[0] Monitor aticonfig-Monitor[0] DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section dri Group video Mode 0666 EndSection Have you followed this guide? http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml Cause it explains a lot about how input devices are handled by hal with xorg 1.5. It even explains changes to xorg.conf (if you decide to keep one). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SVG plugin
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:44, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Kevin O'Gormankogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/15/2009 03:30 PM, Mick wrote: 2009/6/15 Florian Philippli...@f_philipp.fastmail.net: Mick schrieb: Hi All, Trying to view a web page I produced some yonks ago, which at that the time would utilise the Adobe SVG plugin to render a gantt chart. The header of the file went like this: = ?xml version=1.0 encoding=iso-8859-1? !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 2303 Stylable//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/2000/03/WD-SVG-2303/DTD/svg-2303-stylable.dtd; svg xml:space=preserve width=10in height=8in style=font-family:'Arial';font-size:8 = Adobe seem to have abandoned further development. Any idea what I can use to render such a graphic (image/svg+xml) in a browser? Firefox supports svg out of the box, now. Maybe you need the svg USE-flag for x11-libs/cairo. Hmm, mozilla-firefox does not have an svg flag. Anyway, I have svg in my /etc/make.conf and also have cairo installed: [I] x11-libs/cairo Installed versions: 1.8.6-r1!t(18:54:43 03/17/09)(X glitz opengl svg -cleartype -debug -directfb -doc -xcb) It's not just FF, but also Opera and Konqueror cannot render it either and ask to download a plugin. The code in your webpage is probably wrong. You should just use a normal HTML header instead of this weird !DOCTYPE svg thingy you're using now. Embed SVG images inside the page with a PNG fallback like this: object data=URL_TO_YOUR.svg type=image/svg+xml height=PIXELS width=PIXELS img src=URL_TO_YOUR.png height=PIXELS width=PIXELS /object I tried that Adobe site in FF on gentoo and ubuntu with the same non-result. On Vista, I tried FF, Opera, Safari and IE 8, with varied forms of failure. Interestingly, Opera at least offered to start inkscape to view the image, which succeeded. The text on that image suggested it's specific to an adobe plugin -- which it plugs of course. Does somebody have a web page with SVGs that normal browsers with non-proprietary plugins/viewers _can_ view? I looked a little further. I thought it interesting that Safari could also not view the Adobe SVG thingy. Moreover, http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/ shows they've dropped support for their viewer, and the most recent blurb promoting SVG relates to Illustrator CS2, when CS4 is the current version. I have CS4, but haven't learned to use it yet. Is there a future in SVG? AFAIK, SVG has a future. Adobe's SVG, on the other hand, seems broken. My router firmware (Tomato) uses SVG for graphics and everything work fine on Firefox. That SVG example from Adobe's site doesn't work. You can safely assume they're using SVG in a way only THEIR plugin would read. offReminds me of PDF, where Adobe completely broke standards, I have some PDFs that every other PDF Reader I could install, even online standalone apps can read, but Adobe Acrobat can't, and it yells the file is broken/off -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in fstab w/ lvm?
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 16:45, Maxim Wexlermaxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, Following the LVM2 gentoo doc I have in fstab: ... /dev/vg/tmp /tmp ext2 noatime 0 2 ... But also(suggested by the eee forum): ... #shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0 Is this legal? Mounting two things at the same place? AFAIK, no. First off, what do you want to do? The EEE forum suggested mounting /tmp using tmpfs cause that keep temporary stuff on your RAM, not disk, this way you reduce disk access. Its your decision to use RAM for /tmp or disk (LVM logical volume). Obviously you can't have both (it doesn't even make sense). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] building packages remotely
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 14:08, Maxim Wexlermaxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, I've read references here and in other forums to building packages on a desktop PC and installing them on a note/netbook remotely as a way of relieving stress on the smaller machine. Can someone point me to the documentation or howto? I can't seem to come up with the proper google input that doesn't lead to garbage. You may use DISTCC so other (more powerful) rigs can help compiling stuff (keep in mind some packages don' t use this, as it can lead to errors, gcc and openoffice, for instance). Or you can build binary packages and use a binary mirror so you can use emerge -k. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] How to veiw absolute latest on partage without syncing
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 13:45, Mark Knechtmarkkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Strollerstrol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 12 Jun 2009, at 15:40, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Justinjus...@j-schmitz.net wrote: Harry Putnam schrieb: Is there a way to veiw the very latest packages on portage without syncing my OS? http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/ also http://packages.gentoo.org/ or http://gentoo-portage.com/Newest The problem with this is that it's difficult to determine which packages on one's own system have updated. One must check individually for each atom in world. Harry: I'm not sure if it's possible _without_ syncing, but you can `cp -a /usr/portage /usr/portage.orig`, sync, `emerge -pv world` and then move the original tree back if you want to. It's not really clear why you're asking, or why you're unable to sync. If the PC has no internet connection, for instance, security updates are unimportant. Stroller. I've wanted a way to do something like this for a long time. One problem with the way portage works with ( I guess) rsync or whatever it uses is that when someone decides to remove a package from portage that I'm currently using syncing removes it from my system also. Unfortunately before I do the sync I have no idea it has been removed so I don't know that it's going to get taken off my system. Once it does I can go find a copy and put it in a personal overlay but that requires I do the work after the damage is done. It would be nice if there was a message ahead of time that told me certain packages were going to be removed, etc., before it was actually done, but I understand from previous conversations that syncing doesn't work that way. This has come up numerous times for me on older hardware where, for instance, maybe some on-board graphics chip only works with older ATI drivers, and that ATI driver only works with older kernels. By the time sync is done I've lost the code for what my system is running, and unfortunately there's no messages that this is happening when I'm doing the sync so maybe I only figure it out a few weeks later and then have to mess around building an overlay using the attic. Portage keeps a copy of installed packages under /var/db/pkg, AFAIK. So, even if sync removes it from the tree, you can move it from /var to your local overlay and keep using it... If you are doying a fresh install, you can get the old ebuilds from the attic. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] conflict in fstab w/ lvm?
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 18:46, Maxim Wexlermaxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/12/09, Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 16:45, Maxim Wexlermaxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, Following the LVM2 gentoo doc I have in fstab: ... /dev/vg/tmp /tmp ext2 noatime 0 2 ... But also(suggested by the eee forum): ... #shm /dev/shm tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0 Is this legal? Mounting two things at the same place? AFAIK, no. First off, what do you want to do? The EEE forum suggested mounting I want to create a useful, trouble-free genteee box. You have only two choices, being an eee user myself, and having it upgraded to 2GB RAM, I choose the tempfs filesystem for /tmp (RAM) instead of keeping temporary files writen and deleted from my poor SSD. If you have low RAM, you can decide to leave it on the SSD and thus give more room for app data on RAM. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: buying a keyboard
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:49, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Philip Webb wrote: 090604 Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 04 June 2009 16:39:39 Dale wrote: Ajai Khattri wrote: About once a year, I wash all my keyboards (no, seriously). Dishwasher, quick wash, cold, leave somewhere warm to dry couple days. When I was working on computers, I used to clean them with pure alcohol then lay them on top of the A/C condenser, you know, the hot part. IBM system M keyboard ... best keyboard ever made. I'm still using the keyboard which came with my Sanyo XT in 1989 : lives on dust + crumbs, never cleaned, works as well as when I got it. Secret ? -- actually made in Japan ... (grin) Secret, it actually has a switch instead of some touchy crap. While that switch is not completely sealed, it does keep out most stuff. Of course, Coke will upset it's tummy pretty quick. Jeez, I liked those keyboards. I have an ancient Dell QuietKey keyboard. I cleaned it (yeah, removed all keys) and its the best for my work. I is kinda heavy to press, but that avoid lots of problems, like accidental key presses. I also have a Logitech Dinovo Edge at home, connected to my HTPC, and for that purpose, its the best. I guess it all depends on how you'll use it. What I hate most about some keyboards are: 1) The damn layout changes (like FN key at the left side of the BACKSPACE, and backspace not a double size key, or right shift also not double size, ENTER is another one sometimes manufacturers screw around). 2) Useless keys inserted in the middle of the layout (like sleep, standby and power down above INSERT, HOME and PAGE UP). 3) Absence of the pads used to lift the back of the keyboard (I can't believe some people don't use them). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:03, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hung Dang wrote: I often use Ctrl+F1 to F6 to back to the command line and if your X is fine you can back the X screen using Ctrl+F7. Or if you want to kill your X then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace may be helpful. Hung Dale wrote: I know the subject is a bit lacking but here goes. I'm thinking about trying this xorg-server upgrade again. I been thinking about a way to do this and not have to pull the plug on my rig if it fails, which I bet it does. This is the command I am thinking about trying. /etc/init.d/xdm start sleep 5m /etc/init.d/xdm stop I'm thinking this way. Start X first. If it fails, it will stop in 5 minutes and come back to a console. Think this will work? If xorg works, I can switch back to a console and ctrl C the command and carry on. Thoughts? Better ideas? Dale :-) :-) That won't work because if xorg-server fails, my keyboard doesn't work when I switch to X. If the keyboard doesn't work, I can't switch back to anything or type anything. I done been through this one time. I'm trying to figure out how to get back to console with a keyboard that doesn't work at all. Best way to do this is using a remote shell (SSH for example) in another machine. If that's not an option or X driver fails in conflicts with the kernel (mine did before I found a suitable config) then you're pretty much lost, cause your video is gone for good. You can try SYSREQ combinations to kill the server and if that fails even cleanly reboot the rig, but as I said before, depending on the problem your video is gone. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Is starting xdm enough to see something in X?
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 17:46, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 22 May 2009 21:19:40 Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Matt Harrison iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:49 AM, bn brullonu...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht ha scritto: Title sort of says it. I have an old machine that I'm setting up as a Myth server. I didn't want X on the machine but I'm having trouble so I emerged xdm and start it using /etc/init.d/xdm start. The drivers get loaded but I get a black screen. No error message in the X log file. I haven't messed with X at this level before. What's the minimum test of X that would display a terminal or something very basic? Have you tried startx /usr/bin/xterm Yes. Same black screen. Nothing else going on. The processes show up in ps aux, X as root, xterm as me. I've found before that if everything seems to be running (can list X processes and logs look fine) but you still don't see anything, it's possible it is your monitor. I used to use a really old 15 CRT for a server but it just wouldn't run X at anything over 640x480. Modern monitors will at least tell you if the resolution/refresh is out of limits, but older ones don't often. Try with a different monitor if that one is old or suspect. ~Matt Good point. I'll hook the machine up to a very good monitor later today. Thanks. You need to run an X-server, not the one that is displaying xdm because that will only run xdm and once you authenticate will launch an entirely different session. Either launch the failsafe session, it gives you twm on gentoo with a single xterm, or ditch xdm and run startx. You can also run xinit (startx is a wrapper script around xinit that launches user-defined apps) and that gives you plain X without a window manager so you need to put at least xterm into .xinitrc One question about this X stuff. Is there any difference at all at the application level if I run an app displaying on the monitor of that machine, or use ssh -X -Y -C and run the app displaying on a remote machine? No difference whatsoever for basic apps. X is network transparent, meaning that the X client reads and writes a Unix socket, TCP socket, or whatever else you can dream up. However, I'm sure you will find that recent fancy stuff like compiz and OpenGL don't work as expected. If there is absolutely no difference then I don't need to bother with this. If there is then I do. The real issue here is that Myth doesn't work. If I can be certain that displaying Myth apps on a remote screen, such as mythtv-setup or mythfrontend, is really the same then I'll just do that. However those apps are currently failing so I'm trying to eliminate issues, and possibly creating one I don't care about in doing that! Running X apps locally locally tests your X libs and your X server. Running X apps remotely tests the X libs Thanks Alan, OK, I switched to a known good monitor, left xdm turned off and used startx at my command line. I see all the right stuff in ps but still no video, and it seems that I've lost control of my keyboard as I cannot use Alt-Ctrl-F2 to get to another console. (The machine currently doesn't have a mouse) MacMini ~ # ps aux | grep x SNIP mark 4643 0.0 0.2 3324 1348 tty1 S+ 13:24 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/startx mark 4659 0.0 0.2 3680 1104 tty1 S+ 13:24 0:00 xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- -nolisten tcp -br -auth /home/mark/.serverauth.4643 -deferglyphs 16 mark 4679 0.0 0.6 8216 3252 tty1 S 13:24 0:00 xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login mark 4694 0.0 0.6 8376 3488 tty1 S 13:24 0:00 xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 mark 4695 0.0 0.6 8208 3252 tty1 S 13:24 0:00 xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 mark 4696 0.0 0.6 8196 3236 tty1 S 13:24 0:00 xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 root 4735 0.0 0.1 2840 1020 pts/3 R+ 13:26 0:00 ps aux root 4736 0.0 0.1 2060 580 pts/3 R+ 13:26 0:00 grep --colour=auto x MacMini ~ # If I use top in a terminal and kill startx and xinit then I get back to my login console. Possibly xorg-server-1.5 isn't compatible with a 2.6.24 kernel? Maybe I should move this to the Power PC group. Likely I'll find someone there with direct experience. Still, I appreciate the wider audience of gentoo-user. Or you're using an intel card. Set your VIDEO_CARDS variable in /etc/make.conf to vesa and recompile xorg-server, then try again. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] some issues after upgrading to xorg-server 1.5.3
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 13:30, Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net wrote: On Mon, 11 May 2009 17:55:06 -0300 Daniel da Veiga wrote: 1) I use slim, and I have no problems with Xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, have you tried recompiling slim, or enabling logging on it to see what's going on? recompiled... and log show many things :-) some Xorg ones: (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0) I'm compiling x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev ... (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering [...] do you have that file? The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Warning: Type ONE_LEVEL has 1 levels, but RALT has 2 symbols Ignoring extra symbols Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Warning: Duplicate shape name Using last definition this warning is shown many times... any problem with # cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !-- Section InputDevice Driver evdev Option XkbLayout es EndSection -- deviceinfo version=0.2 match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringes/merge /match /deviceinfo ?¿?¿?¿ and this one that I don't know from where it comes: exaCopyDirty: Pending damage region empty! Then I see errro messages from all aplications I use in my XFCE, it is normal? Definetly not normal. Have you run revdep-rebuild? What's your kernel and VIDEO_CARDS variable content? Why are you using fbdev? 2) Some combinations of intel drivers + intel card + xorg-1.5 + kernel do not behave properly. My card used to go over 800 fps with glxgears, and now, with the new drivers and xorg, I'm stuck around 300, general performance is no better. Its a shame, had to drop compiz-fusion, for example. I hope for better support on new releases of intel driver. ok, but is it normal that, i.e, wine hangs my entire system until it opens the application? is xorg and wine related? Maybe a library problem, or your system is simply hanging at 100% CPU. Again, revdep-rebuild... 3) Your touchpad is in absolute mode. You gotta change it to relative mode, its a configuration problem, check hal fdi configs for your touchpad. is there any generic fdi file for touchpads? I don't know which one select... Sorry, I don't know of a generic fdi for touchpads, you can search Google for configs that may fit your hardware. I would advice you to follow the upgrade guide, if you haven't, everything I mentioned is right there: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] some issues after upgrading to xorg-server 1.5.3
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 14:08, Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net wrote: On Tue, 12 May 2009 13:43:38 -0300 Daniel da Veiga wrote: [...] Then I see errro messages from all aplications I use in my XFCE, it is normal? Definetly not normal. Xorg messages? or application ones? All of them, lol. Have you run revdep-rebuild? What's your kernel and VIDEO_CARDS variable content? Why are you using fbdev? # grep VIDEO /etc/make.conf VIDEO_CARDS=vesa intel *I keep vesa cause I had many problems with intel driver... Hmm, me too. # uname -a Linux amparo 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #3 SMP Sat Jan 31 23:09:23 Local time zone must be set--see zic i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5470 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux *I'll ask later about the Local time zone message, cause I've it configured as Gentoo Linux Localization Guide says... :-( xf86-video-intel-2.6 and above only worked OK for me with GEM enabled in the kernel (2.6.28 and aboce)... But that's just my personal opinion. 2) Some combinations of intel drivers + intel card + xorg-1.5 + kernel do not behave properly. My card used to go over 800 fps with glxgears, and now, with the new drivers and xorg, I'm stuck around 300, general performance is no better. Its a shame, had to drop compiz-fusion, for example. I hope for better support on new releases of intel driver. ok, but is it normal that, i.e, wine hangs my entire system until it opens the application? is xorg and wine related? Maybe a library problem, or your system is simply hanging at 100% CPU. Again, revdep-rebuild... I did: # revdep-rebuild -p * Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild * Checking reverse dependencies * Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update * will be emerged. * Collecting system binaries and libraries * Generated new 1_files.rr * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 100% ] * Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done. Try revdep-rebuild -i (so it will search again). I had to do it... 3) Your touchpad is in absolute mode. You gotta change it to relative mode, its a configuration problem, check hal fdi configs for your touchpad. is there any generic fdi file for touchpads? I don't know which one select... Sorry, I don't know of a generic fdi for touchpads, you can search Google for configs that may fit your hardware. I would advice you to follow the upgrade guide, if you haven't, everything I mentioned is right there: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml Yes, I followed it ... one question: is INPUT_DEVICES=evdev enough? or do I have to include keyboard and mouse? I have keyboard and mouse as a fallback, but my xorg.conf has no options or configurations for them... I don't know if I can help more, as my system never recovered from the Xorg 1.5 update... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] some issues after upgrading to xorg-server 1.5.3
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 15:44, Arnau Bria ar...@emergetux.net wrote: Hi all, I've updated my system to xorg-server 1.5.3 following the official doc: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml I have VIDEO_CARDS=vesa intel as intel driver not worked propertly in the past with my video card: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) I configured it with hal, so: # grep INPUT /etc/make.conf INPUT_DEVICES=evdev and my layout es for spanish. # cat /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-xinput-configuration.fdi ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !-- Section InputDevice Driver evdev Option XkbLayout es EndSection -- deviceinfo version=0.2 match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keyboard merge key=input.x11_options.XkbLayout type=stringes/merge /match /deviceinfo and finally, I removed my xorg.conf file... This is a tail of my Xorg log file: (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline 1280x800x0.0 71.11 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 -hsync -vsync (49.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor AUO, prod id 32884 (II) intel(0): EDID vendor AUO, prod id 32884 (II) intel(0): Using hsync ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file (II) intel(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines: (II) intel(0): Modeline 1280x800x0.0 71.11 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 -hsync -vsync (49.4 kHz) (II) intel(0): EDID vendor AUO, prod id 32884 exaCopyDirty: Pending damage region empty! So, my problems: 1.-) I use slim, and when xdm starts, I have to restart X server with Ctrl+Atl+BackSpace if i don't that I don't see slim. 2.-) From slim to XFCE it takes a couple of minutes. 3.-) My touchpad behaves really strange, don't really know howto explain this, but if I put the finger in the middle of the pad, cursos goes to middle, if I put the finger in top righ, cursor goes to top right, but I can't move the cursor with little movements as I've ever done... seems that pad and screen are 1:1 scale ... yes, this explanation sucks :-) but I don't know how to explain it in Spanish neither!!! 1) I use slim, and I have no problems with Xorg-server-1.5.3-r5, have you tried recompiling slim, or enabling logging on it to see what's going on? 2) Some combinations of intel drivers + intel card + xorg-1.5 + kernel do not behave properly. My card used to go over 800 fps with glxgears, and now, with the new drivers and xorg, I'm stuck around 300, general performance is no better. Its a shame, had to drop compiz-fusion, for example. I hope for better support on new releases of intel driver. 3) Your touchpad is in absolute mode. You gotta change it to relative mode, its a configuration problem, check hal fdi configs for your touchpad. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] can't stop the panic on eeepc
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 14:04, Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 22:53:18 schrieb Alan McKinnon: Mirrored - no problem. But how else would you boot off a striped / with /boot not on a separate partition? /boot is _always_ a separate partition, isn't it? AFAIK, that's not a rule. Most people consider it the best option, but its definetly not a rule... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] can't stop the panic on eeepc
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 01:31, maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com wrote: You gotta use a delay (or wait, can't remember exactly) parameter for the kernel to wait while the disc is recognized, dunno exactly, but 2 to 5 seconds should be enough. I have an EEE 701 and Well there's a 10 sec 'timeout' but I can make that infinite by hitting the arrow key. That didn't help. And the 'pause' command, but that just waits for another keystroke. Are you talking about something that goes in the kernel line? Some sort of parameter or option that goes after root=/dev/sdn? Yeah, the kernel must wait for the root device to be ready, the root device on EEE is on a USB bus. Add rootwait to the kernel line. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] can't stop the panic on eeepc
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:03, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2009 10:46:15 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote: Yeah, the kernel must wait for the root device to be ready, the root device on EEE is on a USB bus. Add rootwait to the kernel line. Are you sure about that? On my 900, lshw shows sda and sdb to be ATA devices. Only sdc, the card slot, shows up under USB. The SSDs are connected to Mini-PCIe slots (or soldered to them) and this slots have USB signals [1] so, they are on USB bus (AFAIK). The kernel takes a little time to detect and settle the bus to detect the devices. At least adding rootwait and rootdelay=10 to the kernel line solved my problems. I must say I'm getting this from nabble, since my EEE is running windows (I'm installing Gentoo on it this weekend). [1] http://tnkgrl.wordpress.com/2007/11/20/modding-the-asus-701-eee/ -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] can't stop the panic on eeepc
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 14:11, maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com wrote: The kernel takes a little time to detect and settle the bus to detect the devices. At least adding rootwait and rootdelay=10 to the kernel line solved my problems. Tried rootwait by itself and with rootdelay=10 and rootdelay=10 by itself Well, the triple E still don't boot: either it sticks at ... Marking TSC unstable due to TSC halts in idle input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input4 Waiting for root device /dev/sda2... or it wait 10s and then panics: ... VFS: Cannot opent root device sda2 or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct root= boot option: here are the available partitions: #doesn't say what they are Kernel panic = not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) I removed all USB devices and the SD card with same result. mw __ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet Explorer® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ Well, it seems your kernel lacks support for the disks. Are you sure you compiled in all the necessary USB, SATA disk support? Are you using an initrd? -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] can't stop the panic on eeepc
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 16:51, maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com wrote: Well, it seems your kernel lacks support for the disks. Are you sure you compiled in all the necessary USB, SATA disk support? Still panics chrooted, ran make menuconfig, make make modules_install and copied over the kernel three more times. Attached find the latest iteration of the config. Are you using an initrd? No, never used one on a gentoo box before. That's a fedora thing, isn't it? Just to be sure no needed modules would be missing. I use initrd on my Gentoo boxes, nothing wrong with it... Fedora thing?! That's a linux kernel thing (or maybe option), anyway, I'm lazy enough to use genkernel, lol. Don't you need SATA support for this drives to work? Seems yours is missing: # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_SATA is not set # CONFIG_SATA_AHCI is not set # CONFIG_SATA_PMP is not se Not sure, anyway, try it... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] can't stop the panic on eeepc
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 20:23, maxim wexler bliss...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi group, My 900A with a fresh gentoo install boots into a panic. Says it doesn't like my root=/dev/sda2 option. But that *is* the root partition. fstab: /dev/sda1 /boot ext2 noauto,noatime 1 2 /dev/sda2 / ext3 noatime 0 1 almost exactly like the model in the quick-install guide which uses a swap partition for /dev/sda2 and calls /dev/sda3 /. grub.conf: default 0 timeout 10 title Gentoo root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda2 # 'kernel /kernel' also works The disk SSHD is divided into two partitions, the first I mount at /boot is formatted ext2, the seconded I mount at / is formatted ext3. Drivers for both fs are include *in* the kernel. One thing I noticed when I setup grub is that the USB stick which holds the liveOS xubuntu is called /dev/sda and the SSHD /dev/sdb. Which I took into account: grub root (hd1,0) #which gives the appropriate response grub setup (hd1) #ditto But of course when I boot w/o the USB stick I go back to calling the drive (hd0). I assume that's correct because poking around on the command line when I get to the splash screen proves it. If I enter the command kernel / and hit tab it displays You gotta use a delay (or wait, can't remember exactly) parameter for the kernel to wait while the disc is recognized, dunno exactly, but 2 to 5 seconds should be enough. I have an EEE 701 and had the same problem. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What annoys you?
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 17:11, Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org wrote: On 4/3/2009 3:38 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: there is no installer anymore. And that is a good thing. I will agree that an installer doesn't belong near the top of anyones show stopper list of Gentoo defects. Gentoo doesn't *need* an installer and all previous attempts at one have been less than successful. We can all certainly get along fine without one. But can you really provide a non-condescending, *rational* argument explaining why it would be an actively detrimental idea to have a working installer for Gentoo? Why, if some person appeared tomorrow with a fully functional, debugged, tested, flexible, easy to use, fully-handbook-compliant, *optional* drop-in installation process, why that would be a bad thing? I would still think its a problema. People would install Gentoo, get a functional system, not read the handbook, and flood the forums and this mailing list with already answered and handbook questions. The installer would only benefit the more experienced user that would get an unattended installation, and yet, experienced users tend to customize their systems, so, no installer would help them. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone running a Netbook satisfactorily on Gentoo?
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 04:45, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I've installed and updated Gentoo on my girlfriend's Acer Aspire One netbook and it's just so slow. The only things I can think of to speed it up would be to upgrade the RAM from 1GB (not sure if that's possible) and/or swap out the SSD for a HD. Anyone running a netbook not excruciatingly slow? I have an EEE 701 that run Gentoo, with XFCE4 and Compiz Fusion, and I think its really fast considering its size. No slowdowns at all, of course it has 2GB of RAM, while the default is 512MB. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] ppp connection problem
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 17:20, Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to help my father install gentoo on a new computer (I am across the ocean). We have a problem with the internet connection. He has an adsl account. He runs pppoe-start, and it says that he is connected. ifconfig shows that ppp0 is up, and gives an ip address. However, I can't ping that address (I get 100% packet loss). He also can't ping any address. We called the ISP, and from their side it seems that he is connected, and everything is fine. I don't know where else to look. The log messages showed in the beginning messages of the form LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests but they seem to no longer appear. As I said, I don't even know where to start looking for the problem. Any help is appreciated. OK, this may me a little off topic. I don't even know where to start when it comes to check your dad's connection. Being far away and not knowing the exact messages, with no access to the machine itself, its almost impossible to debug and resolve the problem. My advice: get a router! Configure it for your dad's connection, the router will assume the PPoE connection, saving you the trouble. It also will act as a firewall and even if your dad's computer fail, any other DHCP enabled device connected to the router will have Internet access. Anyway, my two cent :D -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ppp connection problem
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 19:06, Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: * Daniel da Veiga danieldave...@gmail.com [09/03/09 12:33]: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 17:20, Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to help my father install gentoo on a new computer (I am across the ocean). We have a problem with the internet connection. He has an adsl account. He runs pppoe-start, and it says that he is connected. ifconfig shows that ppp0 is up, and gives an ip address. However, I can't ping that address (I get 100% packet loss). He also can't ping any address. We called the ISP, and from their side it seems that he is connected, and everything is fine. I don't know where else to look. The log messages showed in the beginning messages of the form LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests but they seem to no longer appear. As I said, I don't even know where to start looking for the problem. Any help is appreciated. OK, this may me a little off topic. I don't even know where to start when it comes to check your dad's connection. Being far away and not knowing the exact messages, with no access to the machine itself, its almost impossible to debug and resolve the problem. My advice: get a router! Configure it for your dad's connection, the router will assume the PPoE connection, saving you the trouble. It also will act as a firewall and even if your dad's computer fail, any other DHCP enabled device connected to the router will have Internet access. Anyway, my two cent :D Thanks for the advice. I was told that it is possible to configure the current modem as a router, and that's what I will try next. Generally speaking, I don't understand what is the advantage: the router also needs to be configured, and can also fail? There are some advantages. The router (or modem in router mode) is already configured, you usually just have to set the right auth method (PPPoE) and provide a valid user/pass, and that's about it. It will only authenticate when the connection is ready or keep trying till it suceeds. You don't need to start the connection ever, you'll get a firewall and DHCP server, and the configuration (usually a web interface) is easy (at least easier than a ppp connection). Most routers get all information and relay it (DNS, gateway) to their address, or provide this info in DHCP, so there's no configuration to do at your computer, as an eth0 not configured is assumed DHCP. Also you can get rid of all ppp related stuff from the computer. I only say that cause my dad's home connection was setup that way so I would never have to spend a whole weekend afternoon teaching him again, he turns the computer on and its already online. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 19:12, de Almeida, Valmor F. dealmei...@ornl.gov wrote: Hello, After using emerge-webrsync I got Updating Portage cache: 100% *** Completed websync, please now perform a normal rsync if possible. Update is current as of the of MMDD: 20090219 I am not sure what the message means perform a normal rsync if possible. I used emerge-webrsync because emerge --sync does not work. The message couldn't be more clear. The webrsync is not a real sync, so you're not with the latest portage tree, you have the latest portage daily snapshot, if you do a normal sync, then you'll have the latest. To clarify, it even prints the date of this snapshot. Even if you had any doubt, the if possible message should make enough clear. Do I still have to do anything else to update the portage tree? Also, I did not get the typical message warning about a new portage version (after emerge-webrsync finished) but I did emerge --oneshot portage anyway and got a new portage. Is this supposed to behave this way? As I said above, if you can't rsync directly, there's no way you can get a newer version than you already have... So, you're OK with the latest portage tree you can get. Now, about the portage versions:. what are the old and new versions? Maybe it was just a revision, not a new version, anyway, that's just a guess. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] ibiblio dumps Gentoo distfiles to save space
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 20:23, Jerry McBride mcbrid...@comcast.net wrote: Imagine my surprise when the nightly rsync of Gentoo distfiles with ibibilo resulted in my distfile repository getting totally deleted. After a few emails wit the admins at ibibilo I finally got the answer that I was looking for... the truth... Jerry, We are no longer rsyncing the distfiles due to space constraints on our distributions volume. Gentoo's own instructions for setting up a mirror recommend excluding the distfiles directory: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml If you need these files, you could try the other mirrors listed on this page: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/mirrors2.xml Best, Matt I promptly emailed back an offer of two new 1,000 gig drives if they would put the gentoo distfiles back up and... no answer Guess they really don't care. Isn't default portage behavior NOT to sync distfiles? Some distfiles are hosted on mirrors not related to gentoo, others have no mirrors at all, leaving a single server to download from, so, I can't think of a reason to sync this specific folder, other than being a mirror yourself (is that the case?). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Crossover Office and Word 2007
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 15:16, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-01-27, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 06:29:55 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2009-01-26, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: These are shared documents. I can't just change what they are based on my own preferences. I need an app that WRITES .docx. If Office 2007 is the only one that does it, so be it. But a workaround or another way to skin this cat is not what I need here. In my experience, finding an app that writes .docx isn't going to be good enough if the documents are shared. If you're exporting or importing something just one time, you can get usually away with it after some minor fixing afterwards. But if it's a shared document and needs to be edited multiple times by multiple people, you just can't get away with using two different apps -- hell, not even two different versions of MSWord. If you go back and forth many times, the document will steadily deteriorate with each transition from one app to another. At least that's my experience. That's pretty much the conclusion I came to as well. Thanks for sharing though :-) I realize I'm arguing a moot point, but using something like .docx for shared documents that need to be maintained by multiple people for a long time (more than a month or two) is a dead awful choice. A plain ascii text file is probably the best choice for portability and longevity. However, that suggestion's probably not going to fly because it severly limits the amount of time you can waste picking out eye-shatteringly ugly font combinations and f*king up margins, gutters, leading, and all the other things people like to mess up rather than doing real work. My next choice would probably be something like RTF. If you get into a jam it's mostly-human-readible. If you limit yourself to simple formatting features it's about as portable and robust as anything you can find that allows the inclusion of graphics. The support for vector graphics (e.g. SVG) is pretty slim, but bit-mapped graphics support works pretty well. HTML would seem to be a good choice as well, but even more than RTF you've got to limit what features you use. The only way to keep the file from deteriorating into a mess is to avoid any of WYSIWYG HTML editors. Google Apps is great for sharing documents.. You can even have multiple people editing in real-time and see each other's work. It's kind of fun, and all you need is a web browser. Again, irrelevant to the OP since he can't change his company's policy... but good to keep in mind for anyone who can :) I had this problem a while ago. I'm using CrossOffice with Word 2000 and needed to open and change some docx. Microsoft launched a compatibility pack for Office 2000, it works great, I'm using it, you may find more info and some tips here: http://stuffem.wordpress.com/2007/07/14/quick-tip-reading-office-2007-docx-files/ -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] how to extract driver info from genkernel
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 13:08, Denis denis@gmail.com wrote: Hello, This will probably sound simplistic to most... I'm setting up an older Dell PC, and I used genkernel to get it up and running, but how do I figure out which drivers I actually need without knowing for sure which hardware I have in the machine? Genkernel loads a lot of drivers, and the kernel takes a very long time to compile - I understand why, and I'm not complaining about that. But suppose I now wanted to set up the X server, and I don't know which graphics driver I need to choose. Or, suppose I wanted to compile the kernel myself, and I don't really know which drivers I *must* select (since I don't know which chips the machine has). Does anyone have any tips on this? You can use the lspci command, its in the pciutils package (if I'm not mistaken) to get your system hardware information. If you use it with the -v flag it will tell you the driver the kernel is using for it. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation problems on AMD64 box
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:29, Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iain Buchanan schrieb: R C Mitchell wrote: I use Ubuntu for every day but as my box has a spare 40GB hard disk I decided to have a go at installing Gentoo on it for evaluation ah, who says Ubuntu isn't good for anything? Good to see you're trying a real distribution :) /flame Typically now you'd prove me wrong and say how you've been using dieHardLinux for years... anyhoo welcome! [snip excellent problem report] I'm reluctant to believe that this is down to an arbitrary hardware fault, since everything else works fine. It does seem to have something to do with emerging gentoo-sources. hm, this screams hardware fault all over - I haven't seen one issue like this come to anything else. Usually it's the RAM. Can you humour me and try a stick from another machine, or at least reseat it? Iain's diagnosis seems about right. I would start with a nice 2h memtest86+ test followed with a 1h cpuburn test. I agree. One of my systems NEEDS acpid configured and running else the processor would just thermal shutdown on me (freezing before it, sometimes). I would just try and emerge cpufreq stuff and down the frequency (that, of course, if memtest exclude your ram). I say that because a well configured system will throttle the CPU before overheat, and cpuburn should run on the newly installed Gentoo to be sure. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting rid of all kde components
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:38, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dienstag 18 November 2008, Sebastian Günther wrote: * Dirk Heinrichs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [18.11.08 07:53]: Am Dienstag 18 November 2008 07:14:02 schrieb ext Harry Putnam: I've decided to stop using KDE after yrs of use... given that gentoo compiles everything from scratch, its just getting to much time lost jacking around with kde during upgrades. Hmm, you already complained about installation (or compile) time in the cfg- update thread. Why did you choose Gentoo, if you don't like compiling stuff? Because it is about choice, and if you choose, not to use KDE, then you can do it. You can even choose not to use qt, and leave a whole bunch of bloated libs out. BTW: I run KDE updates in the night. Well, I never compile KDE. One big monster like Gnome is enough... Bye... Dirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N so you decided to install the even bigger, more bloated monster? smart choice! But why attacking Dirk for his valid question? The OP has complained in two threads about compiling. If you don't like compiling, gentoo is not for you. It doesn't seem like a complain, if you read it like you would really answer it. It wast just a comment to justify the question. I don't see a reason to question his comment. Gentoo is about choice (not just compiling), and this thread is about Getting rid of all KDE components. Someone goes off-topic and all of a sudden the OP feels attacked (I would feel the same). If you're not going to answer the question, don't send it to the list. I have removed KDE long time ago, and right now I have most of it back so I can use one or two programs (I just love K3B, never used KDE as a WM, but K3B kicks ass, and Gentoo, as I said, is about choice). It seems to me that if you remove all kde basic components, all dependencies (its the case of your arts list) would be target for removal by emerge --depclean... Run revdep-rebuild and maybe check the -e option of emerge to get rid of whatever is left (or wants to come back). -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Networking broke after update: We only hotplug for ethernet interfaces
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:13, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2008 15:59:54 Grant Edwards wrote: from 'cat /etc/rc.conf' # Some people want a finer grain over hotplug/coldplug. rc_plug_services is a # list of services that are matched in order, either allowing or not. By # default we allow services through as rc_coldplug/rc_hotplug has to be YES # anyway. # Example - rc_plug_services=net.wlan !net.* # This allows net.wlan and any service not matching net.* to be plugged. rc_plug_services= 1) None of that text appears in my /etc/rc.conf Oops, slipped my mind - that text shows up in openrc and baselayout-2 which you might not be using yet 2) I don't understand how the above applies. 3) Has that changed recently thus breaking support for bridge interfaces? Inferred from the error message - if you prevent any hotplugging from occurring for a virtual interface, the problem ought to be solved. I'm not sure about recent thinks breaking the bridge, my only recent experience is that bridges tend to break themselves in frustrating ways, ably helped along by virtualization software bang headbang head I have a working setup with bridging and qemu for about 3 years, so, I guess the code is pretty stable. Probably just a DHCP problem, try setting a static IP and see how it goes. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel crash - howto find out what happened?
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 07:08, Alexander Puchmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there! MY gentoo system (an [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2GB ram, nforce4-chipset) worked fine for nearly two years, but now it frequently freezes, sometimes (not always) scrollock and capslock LED blinking). Since I'm using the box as desktop, I have only a frozen X-server and no possibility to switch to console (maybe there's some hint whats happened?). How do I find out what happened, why it crashed? Modern systems have MCE-logs, but how do I read it in this case? After reboot, all information seems to be gone since mcelog is always empty. I assume there's some problem with some hardware, I already tested RAM with memtest86, but no errors. I had one of this freezes today. Simply killed X using CTRL+SYSREQ+K and got back a console with error messages. Have you tried the SYSREQ keys? -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] way off-topic - is it possible to log webmail messages content in an enterprise network
On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Francisco Ares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, guys. Sorry to post such off-topic message, but I didn't know where I could ask this question. I know that things such as address, trafic, bandwith are easy to be tracked and logged, but what about, say, my gmail messages - is it possible to log them also? Which package should I use or look for? Comparing network statistics with webmail messages is not that simple. The only way I can think for you to keep track of your messages is to sniff unencrypted packages (https wouldn't work), look for specific patterns and use that to estimate usage, of course, I'm considering your statement about bandwidth, traffic, address and the fact that something like that would be a hard, complex and not NEAR fail proof concept, along with the privacy issues, of course. Now, if you wanna keep track of YOUR messages, the best way is to activate IMAP on gmail, and use a client, configure it to store messages locally, and that's about it... Beagle would index this kinda content very easily, and your mail client too. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] way off-topic - is it possible to log webmail messages content in an enterprise network
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Aug 2008, at 14:28, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Francisco Ares [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I know that things such as address, trafic, bandwith are easy to be tracked and logged, but what about, say, my gmail messages - is it possible to log them also? Which package should I use or look for? ... The only way I can think for you to keep track of your messages is to sniff unencrypted packages (https wouldn't work), look for specific patterns and use that to estimate usage, of course, I'm considering your statement about bandwidth, traffic, address and the fact that something like that would be a hard, complex and not NEAR fail proof concept, along with the privacy issues, of course. I read OP's question that he isn't interested in the *bandwidth* of the Hotmail messages, per-se - I thought he was just giving bandwidth monitoring as an example of a routine network management task that is easy obvious to undertake in establishing the background to his question. In some companies it is indeed necessary to have a handle on this sort of thing. AIUI to meet certain financial regulations intended to prevent insider-trading (Sarbanes-Oxley?) one must have facilities in place to monitor all communications in out the building. I suppose that at one time recording all telephone calls would have required a prohibitive quantity of cassette tapes, so a supervisor listening in randomly would be acceptable, but leaving webmail accounts ignored is a huge hole. Privacy issues should be covered by a company IT usage policy. I think that stating that all traffic is logged would cover this - see your lawyer as to how you phrase this exactly. Ensure that auditing is undertaken in a documented and regimented manner - it should probably be a separate role from IT admin and or a boss probably shouldn't be looking at his employees emails; you should probably have a person randomly looking at messages for *specific* infractions (and they should probably be trained to ignore anything naughty that isn't specifically within their remit). I have played with wireshark /or etherreal in the past and have been AMAZED at how clearly interactions can be logged when filtering is set correctly. Daniel: might it not be possible to have the firewall drop https connections to hotmail / gmail / yahoo mail domains, thus forcing the users back to unencrypted http? That begs the question: if you can do that, why not just completely block access to webmail sites? Yeah, maybe I misunderstood the OP question. If we are talking about an enterprise network, of course, you can even transparently redirect the request, if a proxy is configured at the gateway. Completely blocking webmail is an option, as you correctly stated, security and network policies apply, and there are laws (at least in my country) that say a employer CAN read its employees mails (of their enterprise account, of course). Anyway, a company CAN keep their network (and/or communications in general) clean, reduce security exploits, and keep track of their employees, if they take the time and pay someone to do it (and of course, provide the hardware). I play with sniffers, but never to the extent of analysing package contents, only to create statistics, and its good to know you can do that with filtering (may talk to the boss about that, too much streaming sites eating our bandwidth). PS: I'm almost completing law school. Too bad my english is not THAT good to translate that... lol -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] way off-topic - is it possible to log webmail messages content in an enterprise network
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Hopkins wrote: Doesn't Gmail support SSL? My email provider provides support for SSL connections (via HTTP, LDAP, POP). If that's the case then it would be extremely difficult (you will need to fake the server's host keys). Furthermore, the ethics of such a practice is questionable. For which case I would side on blocking outside emails altogether rather than get into a situation where you have to justify sniffing someone's personal bank transactions, e.g. -a gmail is only ssl on sign in if you go through webmail. After that it's all in the clear. POP and IMAP are running securely however (which is why I check my stuff via imap) If you simply change the URL to https on gmail, you are using SSL. The default is not to use it, so, you gotta type it yourself. https://mail.google.com/mail -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] way off-topic - is it possible to log webmail messages content in an enterprise network
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:59 AM, Eric Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Albert Hopkins wrote: Doesn't Gmail support SSL? My email provider provides support for SSL connections (via HTTP, LDAP, POP). If that's the case then it would be extremely difficult (you will need to fake the server's host keys). Furthermore, the ethics of such a practice is questionable. For which case I would side on blocking outside emails altogether rather than get into a situation where you have to justify sniffing someone's personal bank transactions, e.g. -a gmail is only ssl on sign in if you go through webmail. After that it's all in the clear. POP and IMAP are running securely however (which is why I check my stuff via imap) If you simply change the URL to https on gmail, you are using SSL. The default is not to use it, so, you gotta type it yourself. https://mail.google.com/mail Has it always been that way? I could have sworn that only the login was SSL and everything else was in the clear (granted, I don't think I ever tried to change it to https). Live Learn I don't know if it was always that way, what I know is that maybe 2 years ago some machines with IE6 couldn't reach gmail, and a quick search showed that switching to HTTPS would solve it. As I knew that was also giving me encryption, I began to type the complete address with s wherever I use my account. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] move instalation from one system to another one.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebastian Günther a écrit: If you want such functionality, use Debian or Ubuntu. Or just use the good C*FLAGS and kernel options. Nicolas is right, you can (at your own risk, of course) do a migration like this, so DON'T is not really the only option, and changing distros is NOT an option in most cases. Gentoo is perfectly capable of that. Change flags in make.conf for generic compatible ones, compile a new kernel (I used genkernel for the migration, and compiled a specific kernel for the new machine later), emerge -e world and transfer the system (I used rsync, and had to deal with some network issues), everything worked (after some fine tunning for the new hardware) for me. Sometimes the effort is worth, it was my case, YMMV. It takes a little while (for me, the migration itself took a Sunday afternoon, like 6 hours), but you can still use your system while emerge does its work, and while the new kernel compiles. Its less time than a normal install from the ground up (with the whole configuration process, X, Window Manager, etc). After the migration, change flags again, and let emerge do its magic, while you can keep working. PS: I kept my old system as a backup for a few weeks. PS2: I had an old Athlon XP 1.2GHz and migrated the whole system to a Core Duo 2.8GHz, as you may imagine, both machines were COMPLETELY different, but still I kept all my preferences, packages, files, all of it. An year before the migration, the Athlon XP was running a CHOST=i386 and I changed it to i686 with success. Gentoo is sometimes just magical. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: move instalation from one system to another one.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Nikos Chantziaras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebastian Günther a écrit: If you want such functionality, use Debian or Ubuntu. Or just use the good C*FLAGS and kernel options. Nicolas is right, you can (at your own risk, of course) do a migration like this, so DON'T is not really the only option, and changing distros is NOT an option in most cases. Gentoo is perfectly capable of that. Change flags in make.conf for generic compatible ones, compile a new kernel (I used genkernel for the migration, and compiled a specific kernel for the new machine later), emerge -e world and transfer the system (I used rsync, and had to deal with some network issues), everything worked (after some fine tunning for the new hardware) for me. Yeah, but that way you're doing emerge -e world twice. One on the old system, and one on the new system (to optimize for the specific CPU again; -march=native). It's usually faster to install from scratch and only transfer your setting to the new system. Yes, but still, both emerges may run while you work, so that's not wasted time, while on a new install, your machine is useless till you get all that you need running (that's the compilation time for X, an office suite, a window manager), and after that, you gotta transfer all your files and settings (that may be tedious), and all of this takes a time you could use to work... All I'm saying is that you really don't need to start from scratch, I personally find it more productive and fast (not to mention less boring) to prepare and transfer the whole install, and only configure the new hardware (that is part of a normal new install, so, you can't avoid that), instead of waiting for compilations to end so you can use packages on your new machine. Besides, I'm letting the official portage tool do its job... Anyway, it is MHO. In some cases, this may fail and a install from scratch is the only option left. But I never had this bad luck. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: move instalation from one system to another one.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31 Jul 2008, at 19:50, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: ... Note the emerge -e world is not what we need here as it will leave broken system packages (the system won't boot on the new processor). The '-e' option looks for the USE flags only. From `man emerge` --emptytree (-e) Reinstalls all world packages and their dependencies ... Nicolas, Stroller (and the man page) is right... As system is part of world, an emerge -e world would recompile every single package, along with all dependencies, a full system recompile, if you, for instance, change your CFLAGs to a generic one before it, at the end your system would be prepared to be used with a different processor. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: move instalation from one system to another one.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2008, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31 Jul 2008, at 19:50, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: ... Note the emerge -e world is not what we need here as it will leave broken system packages (the system won't boot on the new processor). The '-e' option looks for the USE flags only. From `man emerge` --emptytree (-e) Reinstalls all world packages and their dependencies ... Nicolas, Stroller (and the man page) is right... As system is part of world, an emerge -e world would recompile every single package, along with all dependencies, a full system recompile, if you, for instance, change your CFLAGs to a generic one before it, at the end your system would be prepared to be used with a different processor. not anymore. system was taken out of world. http://marc.info/?l=gentoo-devm=121607297615623w=2 I see, so you need a emerge -e system in order to emerge -e world properly and make sure changes affect all packages. One more thing to keep note next time I transfer my system... -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] eee pc query
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 6:47 PM, Matt Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got one of these Asus EEEPc's and I'm thinking about installing gentoo on it as the (xubuntu) distro isn't really up to par with gentoo IMHO. I'm not worried about messing things up as I can just re-image it with the supplied discs if something goes wrong but I do have a couple of questions. I've seen people writing about using USB sticks etc to install, I was just wondering, is there anything stopping me from just scp'ing across the stage3 and portage tarballs, extracting them somewhere and chrooting in. Then I should be able to complete the install from the chroot (although using distcc to speed up compilation times). Does anyone know why this might not be a good idea? I simply installed a whole chroot in my main machine to do the compiling, then rsynced the whole chroot to / on the EEE. I used the default xandros to create a simple live SD to boot and rsync for the first time, after that, the system is ready and the SD became backup storage space. You can still compile stuff using your main machine, and rsync the changes back to the EEE, saving a LOT of compile time. Simple, fast (you don't want the EEE to compile X and compiz stuff, it is really slow). And you save the space, cause you don't need to rsync the portage tree and/or kernel sources, etc. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote: +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU heavy as FF2. The only real improvement I've observed as far as performance is concerned is javascript. I wish there were a light version available. I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser. Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there. Lots of glitches with rendering some pages, its probably the webmaster's fault, but FF2 works with them, so I switched back. Also it is a little less memory and CPU hungry, but not that much. And, in my EEE PC I use a LOT of extensions that make my life easier, and like 50% of them do not work on FF3. I'll switch when FF3 is as good (for my personal use) as FF2. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recommendation for a wireless G Broadband Router
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Gordon Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option is the excellent Tomato Firmware (http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato), which does exactly what you need out of the box. Another vote for Tomato, as its the best firmware I've used so far. But, if you have a version 5 or latter, then you're stuck with dd-wrt micro edition. I use a WRT54GL (L model is, IMHO, the best). -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? After almost 8 months withtou an upgrade, I finally decided to go on with it, and to my surprise the only problem was a library that got borked. After a little research, it was solved and the rest was automagically done by portage. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is the mailing list working?
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2008, Tony Caudel wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, I checked gentoo.org and even a quick search on the forums but didn't see anything about a massive boo boo. Just trying to see what is up here. Pardon the noise but could someone reply to let me know it's still working? Last message I got was on the 22 of last month. Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I'm in the same boat, Dale. I am no longer receiving email from the list also. Stopped at about the same time. I sent an email to the list owner (gentoo-user+owner) but no reply yet. Real bummer maybe your mails are filtered as spam? (one more reason not to use gmail). In fact, gmail recognizes it as a mailing-list (even offering special commands, like filtering email from the list). I never got any list message marked as spam in Gmail. Thunderbird did it, a lot, like many clients and webmails I tried. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager for laptop
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Jan Seeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Tue, 06 May 2008 13:48:46 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 01:42 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:12 PM, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipped the frustration been there, done that ... and gave up. Write your own scripts and shortcut the frustration. Keep a directory with a subdirectory for each site. Have all config files needed properly configured and stored there. Lastly, a simple script just copies in the required files over the top of the last lot and restarts the services. I have a desktop icon and a GUI (using gtkdialog) so I can easily select the correct site. Ive tried a few like network manager, and also tried to get gentoo's networking to do it semi-automaticly to help, but all I ended up with was a frustratingly fragile mess. I have a laptop too, and I always found that the gentoo networking scripts where fully sufficient for keeeping me on-line. Okay, the wireless is a bit flaky, but only when connecting. Note: I do not use network manager. What exactly are your problems? Gentoo networking configuration is OK. It works for the most part, but you just need something were you can quickly type a password for a protected WPA network and it connects. Yes, you CAN edit the files by hand and provide the information, but that just makes your net configuration file a mess. I ended up with a pretty mess of over a dozen networks, most of them I used only once. I'm all for the console and editing configuration files, but a laptop or notebook is meant to be a fast tool to be connected everywhere, isnt it? Right now I'm switching to XFCE and I'll try more stuff, like pynetworkmanager... -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager for laptop
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 1:09 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga ha scritto: On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:49 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga ha scritto: Nah, I guess its something related to my card (and driver) and wpa_supplicant. You told that wicd somehow works better. Seems more related to NetworkManager, then... You can say so, but WICD and NetworkManager are completely different programs, they both call wpa_supplicant, but in completely different ways, as far as I can see. NM tries to use DBUS to talk to supplicant, while WICD launches supplicant directly, by pointing it to a generated config file. But yes, I suppose NM is broken in the sense it can't talk to wpa_supplicant on my laptop. I know almost nothing about dbus, but have you checked that dbus works for other programs? I tested it with other apps, logging stuff and all. All parts working, including wpa_supplicant, iwconfig and dhclient. All stuff that should make NM magic happes, but still nothing. They all work OK, as manually I can connect to each and every wireless I tried (WPA, WEP, open). -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager for laptop
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:12 PM, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: I've been struggling with network managing in my laptop for some time now. There's no decent way to keep it on config files. I connect to a LOT of completely different wired and wireless networks. I'm using Gnome, but I have all KDE libraries as dependencies for some stuff. The machine is an Asus EEE 701 with an Atheros card. I'm using ndiswrapper trying to avoid patching the madwifi drivers, waiting for the official commit. My first try was NetworkManager, beautiful tool, allowed me to manage my wired and open wireless connections fine, but once I need WPA for wireless at the University, it failed on me. It seems it can't talk to wpa_supplicant the right way. One possible fix would be downgrade to version 0.5.4 of wpa_supplicant, but its not in portage anymore, so I quit. Next I tried some gtk stuff, scripting stuff, gosh, so many. End up with WICD, wich for the most part works fine. I didn't have the time to check why the heck it tries to connect to None more often then it tries with the SSID Im telling it to (maybe some configuration file lost in the way), but anyway, change driver from ndiswrapper or wext and it eventually works. What are you guys using? Im accepting suggestions! I haven't read the rest of the replies, but have you tried going UP, and not DOWN? meaning a CVS version of NM? This is a beautiful application, which has filled many much needed holes in the world of linux and wireless. NM is under rapid development and many changes are commited. (if you've gone up, sorry .. like i said; haven't read the rest of the replies on this one.) I have run both stable and testing versions on portage. I even tried compiling from source, and that failed, can't recall the reason. I'm still looking for a stable network manager app. I'm currently switching from Gnome to XFCE, so I'm gonna try some other apps, like pynetworkmanager... -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Network manager for laptop
I've been struggling with network managing in my laptop for some time now. There's no decent way to keep it on config files. I connect to a LOT of completely different wired and wireless networks. I'm using Gnome, but I have all KDE libraries as dependencies for some stuff. The machine is an Asus EEE 701 with an Atheros card. I'm using ndiswrapper trying to avoid patching the madwifi drivers, waiting for the official commit. My first try was NetworkManager, beautiful tool, allowed me to manage my wired and open wireless connections fine, but once I need WPA for wireless at the University, it failed on me. It seems it can't talk to wpa_supplicant the right way. One possible fix would be downgrade to version 0.5.4 of wpa_supplicant, but its not in portage anymore, so I quit. Next I tried some gtk stuff, scripting stuff, gosh, so many. End up with WICD, wich for the most part works fine. I didn't have the time to check why the heck it tries to connect to None more often then it tries with the SSID Im telling it to (maybe some configuration file lost in the way), but anyway, change driver from ndiswrapper or wext and it eventually works. What are you guys using? Im accepting suggestions! -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager for laptop
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 11:41 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote: I've been struggling with network managing in my laptop for some time now. There's no decent way to keep it on config files. I connect to a LOT of completely different wired and wireless networks. I'm using Gnome, but I have all KDE libraries as dependencies for some stuff. The machine is an Asus EEE 701 with an Atheros card. I'm using ndiswrapper trying to avoid patching the madwifi drivers, waiting for the official commit. My first try was NetworkManager, beautiful tool, allowed me to manage my wired and open wireless connections fine, but once I need WPA for wireless at the University, it failed on me. It seems it can't talk to wpa_supplicant the right way. One possible fix would be downgrade to version 0.5.4 of wpa_supplicant, but its not in portage anymore, so I quit. Where does it say that the NetworkManager needs a downgraded version of wpa_supplicant? The reason that I ask is that I use NetworkManager on my laptop and it's been great.. except for at work where we use Enterprise WPA or whatever it's called. I haven't been able to log in, but a workmate of mine installed a fresh copy of Hardy Heron and it worked the first time. I haven't really had the time/interest to figure out why it wasn't working on my Gentoo laptop. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/ath0wireless-couldnt-connect-to-the-supplicant.-511815/ But again, its one of the MANY threads, posts and questions about NetworkManager and WPA around the web. The fact is, I found many people with this problem, tried all their solutions but still no game. I get the infamous couldn't connect to the supplicant syslog error. Believe me, I spent a LOT of time trying to figure this out... WICD had the None problem (must have something to do with the 00:00:00:00:00 failed authentication in wpa_supplicant (wich is something I must research too), that makes it annoying, but not impossible to use it. Any more suggestions? -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager for laptop
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 4:22 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga ha scritto: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/ath0wireless-couldnt-connect-to-the-supplicant.-511815/ But again, its one of the MANY threads, posts and questions about NetworkManager and WPA around the web. The fact is, I found many people with this problem, tried all their solutions but still no game. I get the infamous couldn't connect to the supplicant syslog error. Believe me, I spent a LOT of time trying to figure this out... WICD had the None problem (must have something to do with the 00:00:00:00:00 failed authentication in wpa_supplicant (wich is something I must research too), that makes it annoying, but not impossible to use it. Any more suggestions? I have a Macbook Pro laptop with Gentoo, with WPA working fine with NetworkManager (Madwifi drivers). I now do not have time to check the full configs. However I remember that mixing wpa_supplicant configuration and NetworkManager was BAD. I kept a very confused diary of my Macbook Gentoo install, the relevant part is: ok, found problem. using the conf.d/net and wpa_supplicant.conf WITH NetworkManager is just problems. so I am trying to use only NetworkManager. ...and it's what I'm currently doing. I guess NetworkManager takes care of wpa_supplicant. Then, madwifi drivers for that card are a bit flaky, but that's another story... Tell me what info you need, I may try to help you. I'll try removing the config for the whole thing and see how it works, but NetworkManager has problems launching wpa_supplicant (or controlling it at least) using DBUS, and that has not been solved yet, so I won't bet on it. I'm not with my EEE right now, so, as soon as I get home... All I need is to know if you can actually use WPA, store the keys, reboot, and try again, with the same SSID, it fails for me all the time. (and var log messages says couldn't connect to the supplicant). -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager for laptop
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 6:48 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga ha scritto: I'll try removing the config for the whole thing and see how it works, but NetworkManager has problems launching wpa_supplicant (or controlling it at least) using DBUS, and that has not been solved yet, so I won't bet on it. I'm not with my EEE right now, so, as soon as I get home... What happens? what error messages? Nothing happens, when I try connecting, it asks for my key, I submit it, and then it dies. /var/log/messages says Couldn't connect to the supplicant. It appears to be a error regarding wpa_supplicant and DBUS. All I need is to know if you can actually use WPA, store the keys, reboot, and try again, with the same SSID, it fails for me all the time. (and var log messages says couldn't connect to the supplicant). I think yes, since I use it everyday with my WPA router at home. I must confess that I didn't experience such difficulties. Hope it's not a new bug waiting to bite me... Nah, I guess its something related to my card (and driver) and wpa_supplicant. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager for laptop
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:49 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga ha scritto: Nah, I guess its something related to my card (and driver) and wpa_supplicant. You told that wicd somehow works better. Seems more related to NetworkManager, then... You can say so, but WICD and NetworkManager are completely different programs, they both call wpa_supplicant, but in completely different ways, as far as I can see. NM tries to use DBUS to talk to supplicant, while WICD launches supplicant directly, by pointing it to a generated config file. But yes, I suppose NM is broken in the sense it can't talk to wpa_supplicant on my laptop. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What overwrites resolv.conf
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:46 PM, »Q« [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a definitive guide to the syntax of the various config files?
/etc/conf.d/net.example and /etc/conf.d/wireless.example are pretty
well annotated.
For a desktop install, the config.example files are great.
But for a notebook, creating and maintaining different setups for
different networks is troublesome (some of them you'll probably never
use again). When travelling or just sitting at a hotel that uses WPA
or WEP keys, setting up config files for PSKs or keys is a pain.
I searched for some solution and found net-misc/networkmanager. Its a
cool solution, as it configures any network on-the-fly, without
messing with configuration or keeping files all over. I'm a Gnome
user, and the applet sitting at the panel is awesome, as it lists all
wireless connections, and also deals with wired networks. Its a must
have in my personal opinion for a mobile device, I use it with my
Asus EEE.
Just sharing some user experience.
--
Daniel da Veiga
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Re: [gentoo-user] Two instances of MySQL Database Server
On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Johann Schmitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! About several month ago I got 2 mysql instances (4.xx and 5.xx) running on the same machine. The (very) quick guide: * Emerge, setup, etc mysql in the outer system * setup a chroot with an complete stage3 * chroot into the new one ** emerge mysql ** setup mysql (use a different ip or at least a different port then the outer system!) ** Note: You have to uncomment the need net line in the mysql init script, cause the network is already up * Mount /usr/portage/, /dev/, /proc/ with bind in the chroot * Create a fake initscript wich simply invokes the mysql initscript in the chroot ** Add this one to the default runlevel I wrote a step-by-step guide, but: Its in german ;) Maybe i find some time to translate it into englisch... I don't understand why use a chroot to simply run another instance of MySQL. Is there any good reason? All you gotta do is create a new configuration file that points to a different database location and uses a different port, and clone and edit another /etc/init.d/mysql script to point to the new config file. A chroot would be just a waste of space, since you can use the same binary for multiple instances. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Two instances of MySQL Database Server
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 6:18 PM, kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: I don't understand why use a chroot to simply run another instance of MySQL. Is there any good reason? All you gotta do is create a new configuration file that points to a different database location and uses a different port, and clone and edit another /etc/init.d/mysql script to point to the new config file. A chroot would be just a waste of space, since you can use the same binary for multiple instances. About the only reason to run multiple instances is testing different versions hence the chroot. The OP asked about different instances, not versions. Isn't MySQL slotted, so you can run different major versions (4 and 5, for example) at the same time? -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Master - Slave MySQL Database Server
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Kaushal Shriyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, Is there a step by step guide to set up Master - Slave MySQL Database Server on Gentoo AFAIK there is no such howto (I assume you mean Replication when you say Master x Slave setup). Maybe cause MySQL has a complete howto on how to enable this on ANY MYSQL installed on any system, even on different OSs. There's no difference on the OS part if the MySQL database is replicating or not... Just follow: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/replication-howto.html http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/replication.html -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it would work). Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow. Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes... There may be a way to copy those setting and such but I'm not sure how. If Knoppix can do it there has to be a way. I read you can put Knoppix on a hard drive too. I can say one thing about the server, it has great cooling for a old rig. I think they made it big and heavy so the fans would not push it across the floor. LOL I wonder if I can copy that to the floppy? I think the floppy works. I'll check on that in a little bit. May save me from dragging that thing in the house. Well, thanks for the help guys. When installing, I used the config from the LiveCD to build my own. It seems that, somehow along the way (probably oldconfig?!) some serious support was removed or marked as module. I mean the console support... I'm pretty sure I didn't messed up with that part, and still, it wasn't there. Well, 7 hours wasted on this, gosh... Thanks again. Just to clarify, you can boot from the hard drive and it is working now? Yeah, its booting from the hard drive and working just fine. No need for the chain and tractor anymore. Thanks again. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it would work). Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow. Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes... There may be a way to copy those setting and such but I'm not sure how. If Knoppix can do it there has to be a way. I read you can put Knoppix on a hard drive too. I can say one thing about the server, it has great cooling for a old rig. I think they made it big and heavy so the fans would not push it across the floor. LOL I wonder if I can copy that to the floppy? I think the floppy works. I'll check on that in a little bit. May save me from dragging that thing in the house. Well, thanks for the help guys. When installing, I used the config from the LiveCD to build my own. It seems that, somehow along the way (probably oldconfig?!) some serious support was removed or marked as module. I mean the console support... I'm pretty sure I didn't messed up with that part, and still, it wasn't there. Well, 7 hours wasted on this, gosh... Thanks again. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600
On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 01 March 2008, Daniel da Veiga wrote: Hello list, I am struggling with an old Compaq Proliant 1600 for a while. It boots perfectly using the Minimal Install CD, and all the install process goes well. When its time to boot its own kernel, GRUB loads the files, goes to the message OK, booting the kernel. and just hangs there. I used genkernel to compile the kernel. I'm now trying to compile it manually to see if it will work. Please note that this particular machine has no SMART-2 Array controller, so the disks are seen as common SCSI devices (sda and sdb), currently I'm installing the whole system at sda, leaving b untouched for backup purposes when I get this beast up and running. Anyone has any experience booting one of these machines? Not this specific model, but I would start by comparing the boot command and modules loaded from the Minimal CD with what you are trying to use when booting the installed OS. Supplying some error messages, command lines and even a relevant config file or two at this point might be found to be useful by those inclined to help you out of this predicament... I *think* I have one of these old boat anchors out in my shop. I'm not sure if it still boots or not but I may could get you a .config file for the kernel if you have no luck any other way. I say 'any other way' cause I would have to drag that monster in the house and hook it back up to the network to access it. Let me know if all else fails. I'll check the model before hooking the tractor and chain to it. LOL Tell me about it, gotta drag this old machine all the way up to the forth floor. It was an inexpensive choice for a file server, and I was happy to see the Gentoo Minimal CD booting (cause then I was sure it would work). Anyway, I had to go (I'm on the road right now) and left it compiling a new kernel (manually this time), that I'll test tomorrow. Is there any way to copy the LiveCD kernel and initrd so I can boot the EXACT kernel the CD is using? This way I can troubleshoot this damn thing without a LiveCD and chroot every 5 minutes... -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't boot Compaq Proliant 1600
Hello list, I am struggling with an old Compaq Proliant 1600 for a while. It boots perfectly using the Minimal Install CD, and all the install process goes well. When its time to boot its own kernel, GRUB loads the files, goes to the message OK, booting the kernel. and just hangs there. I used genkernel to compile the kernel. I'm now trying to compile it manually to see if it will work. Please note that this particular machine has no SMART-2 Array controller, so the disks are seen as common SCSI devices (sda and sdb), currently I'm installing the whole system at sda, leaving b untouched for backup purposes when I get this beast up and running. Anyone has any experience booting one of these machines? -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Networking bridging
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Chris Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am trying to set up a Bridge for Qemu to use. I followed the guide
at
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO:_Qemu#Using_TUN.2FTAP_interface_as_a_normal_user
but when ever the bridge starts, I loose connectivity outside of my
box :/ ... am I missing something
I've includes the output of my /etc/conf.d/net file
# This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.*
# scripts in /etc/init.d. To create a more complete configuration,
# please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration
# in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).
dns_domain=( unworldly.org )
nis_domain=( unworldly.org )
dns_domain_eth0=( unworldly.org )
dns_search_eth0=( unworldly.org xaerolimit.net )
dns_servers_eth0=( 192.168.1.1 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2 )
##
# LAN
##
config_eth0=( 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.1.1 )
##
# Bridge
##
bridge_br0=eth0
config_br0=( 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
#dhcpcd_br0=-t 10
RC_NEED_br0=net.eth0
brctl_br0=( setfd 0 sethello 0 stp off )
config_tap0=( 10.0.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 )
Following an old tutorial about that, I noticed that you can't have
eth0 working and bridging with different IPs. My /etc/conf.d/net:
depend_br0() {
need net.eth0
}
config_eth0=( 0.0.0.0 promisc ) #resets eth0 so the bridge gets the real IP.
config_br0=( YOUR_MACHINE_IP netmask YOUR_MACHINE_NETMASK brd
YOUR_MACHINE_BROADCAST )
dhcpd_br0=-N
brctl_br0=( setfd 0 sethello 1 stp off )
bridge_br0=eth0 #ads eth0 to your bridge, all traffic will go to the
physical interface
routes_br0=(
default gw YOUR_MACHINE_GATEWAY
)
And at /etc/qemu-ifup I add the following:
#!/bin/sh
sudo /sbin/ifconfig $1 0.0.0.0 #resets tap0
sudo /sbin/brctl addif br0 tap0 #adds tap0 to the bridge
Of couse I configured sudo to do all this without asking for a
password so I could run qemu as a normal user.
With this setup, when I launch qemu, everything works (Novell, etc) as
if it really was a different computer connected physically to the
network.
Hope that helps.
--
Daniel da Veiga
Filosofia de TI: Programadores de verdade consideram o conceito o que
você vê é o que você tem tão ruim em editores de texto quanto em
mulheres. Não, o programador de verdade quer um editor de texto do
estilo você pediu, você levou - complicado, indecifrável, poderoso,
impiedoso, perigoso.
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