Re: [Gimp-docs] czech po files
Miroslav Šulc (Tuesday, 21. December 2010) Ulf, i will probably find some time during holidays (friday+) so could you please try to extract the cs po files from the xml? it will be sure full of fuzzy translations, but it should definitely save me a lot of time. Done (new branch: czech). Note that the glossary file is more or less useless (due to a bug in the migrating tool), so marked most strings as fuzzy. Also note that some strings are (automatically) translated, but the translations are nonsense. Bye, Ulf -- Ein fortschrittlicher Theologe: ein Widerspruch in sich. Wenn ein Theologe fortschreitet, ist er kein Theologe mehr. -- Karlheinz Deschner signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] czech po files
Dne 20.12.2010 12:01, Ulf-D. Ehlert napsal(a): Julien Hardelin (Monday, 20. December 2010) Le 19/12/2010 22:57, Miroslav Šulc a écrit : i just found that in that time .po files were not used yet, all translations were done in the xml files with language attributes. i wonder what was the way you used to migrate the translations from xml files to po files, unless you did it manually. There has been so many changes in the gimp-help-2 tree since we migrated to po that an automatical tranfer is not possible now, IMO. Ulf, who made this migration would give a more documented advice. Oh god, that was 100 years ago ;-) We used a script to split the multi-language xml files and create po files using as many extracted translations as possible, if I remember correctly. So we'd had to checkout a really old version and repeat this step for cz po files. But the resulting po files would probably contain 99% fuzzy or untranslated strings... If you (Miroslav) are interested I can try to create cz po files (this evening or so). jfyi, yesterday night i sent email to Petr Kovář who is coordinator of czech translation team, but so far no answer from him. Bye, Ulf miroslav ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] czech po files
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 05:59:44PM +0100, Miroslav Šulc wrote: also, as i saw there are many typos and other language issues in english version, i do not plan to start with czech translation until english version is clean, which will sure take some time. In my humble opinion: - start translating right now. The manual is constantly a work in progress and it is really hudge. There will never be a clean english version - the .po transition allowed to work in this very variable condition with confidence so do it without worry bye -- Marco Ciampa ++ | Linux User #78271 | | FSFE fellow #364 | ++ ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] czech po files
Dne 21.12.2010 10:24, Marco Ciampa napsal(a): On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 05:59:44PM +0100, Miroslav Šulc wrote: also, as i saw there are many typos and other language issues in english version, i do not plan to start with czech translation until english version is clean, which will sure take some time. In my humble opinion: - start translating right now. The manual is constantly a work in progress and it is really hudge. There will never be a clean english version - the .po transition allowed to work in this very variable condition with confidence so do it without worry bye well, it depended on the approach Julien will decide to use for the patches, as each typo fix in english doc would make my translation fuzzy if po files would not be patched too. and checking over and over my translations would be just waste of time. miroslav ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] czech po files
Julien Hardelin (Monday, 20. December 2010) Le 19/12/2010 22:57, Miroslav Šulc a écrit : i just found that in that time .po files were not used yet, all translations were done in the xml files with language attributes. i wonder what was the way you used to migrate the translations from xml files to po files, unless you did it manually. There has been so many changes in the gimp-help-2 tree since we migrated to po that an automatical tranfer is not possible now, IMO. Ulf, who made this migration would give a more documented advice. Oh god, that was 100 years ago ;-) We used a script to split the multi-language xml files and create po files using as many extracted translations as possible, if I remember correctly. So we'd had to checkout a really old version and repeat this step for cz po files. But the resulting po files would probably contain 99% fuzzy or untranslated strings... If you (Miroslav) are interested I can try to create cz po files (this evening or so). Bye, Ulf -- Allein bin ich manchmal einsam; mit anderen oft; in Gesellschaft fast immer. Was mich mehr als alles krank macht, sind die unheilbar Gesunden. -- Karlheinz Deschner signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] czech po files
Dne 20.12.2010 12:01, Ulf-D. Ehlert napsal(a): Julien Hardelin (Monday, 20. December 2010) Le 19/12/2010 22:57, Miroslav Šulc a écrit : i just found that in that time .po files were not used yet, all translations were done in the xml files with language attributes. i wonder what was the way you used to migrate the translations from xml files to po files, unless you did it manually. There has been so many changes in the gimp-help-2 tree since we migrated to po that an automatical tranfer is not possible now, IMO. Ulf, who made this migration would give a more documented advice. Oh god, that was 100 years ago ;-) We used a script to split the multi-language xml files and create po files using as many extracted translations as possible, if I remember correctly. So we'd had to checkout a really old version and repeat this step for cz po files. But the resulting po files would probably contain 99% fuzzy or untranslated strings... If you (Miroslav) are interested I can try to create cz po files (this evening or so). well, i wanted to see how much could be used from the old translation = how much work it would need to update it to 2.6/2.8. btw, though we have domain .cz, language code is cs. also, as i saw there are many typos and other language issues in english version, i do not plan to start with czech translation until english version is clean, which will sure take some time. i have no idea whether there would be a difference exporting czech po files out of it now or one month later after many typo fixes in the english version. whether it would still match the translations as fuzzy or they would not match at all. what you think? Bye, Ulf miroslav ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] czech po files
Dne 19.12.2010 06:57, Julien Hardelin napsal(a): anybody knows where i could find czech po files for gimp documentation? there exists czech translation of gimp 2.2 but the po files are not in the gimp-help-2 repo. Hi, cz PO files don't exist in the gimp-help-2 module. If you want to start a new translation for your language, you have to add cz to the gimp-help-2/configure.ac file, line 60. Then, run ./autogen.sh --without-gimp ALL_LINGUAS=cz en (you can add other languages if you want). Then make po-cz, and you will get your PO files with all strings untranslated. thanks, this is good to know. but there is no way to reuse the 2.2 translation (except copy/paste from it)? in the 2.2 times the translations were done in a different way? Julien miroslav ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] czech po files
Dne 19.12.2010 06:57, Julien Hardelin napsal(a): anybody knows where i could find czech po files for gimp documentation? there exists czech translation of gimp 2.2 but the po files are not in the gimp-help-2 repo. Hi, cz PO files don't exist in the gimp-help-2 module. If you want to start a new translation for your language, you have to add cz to the gimp-help-2/configure.ac file, line 60. Then, run ./autogen.sh --without-gimp ALL_LINGUAS=cz en (you can add other languages if you want). Then make po-cz, and you will get your PO files with all strings untranslated. Julien i just found that in that time .po files were not used yet, all translations were done in the xml files with language attributes. i wonder what was the way you used to migrate the translations from xml files to po files, unless you did it manually. miroslav ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] czech po files
Le 19/12/2010 22:57, Miroslav Šulc a écrit : i just found that in that time .po files were not used yet, all translations were done in the xml files with language attributes. i wonder what was the way you used to migrate the translations from xml files to po files, unless you did it manually. There has been so many changes in the gimp-help-2 tree since we migrated to po that an automatical tranfer is not possible now, IMO. Ulf, who made this migration would give a more documented advice. Julien ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
Re: [Gimp-docs] czech po files
anybody knows where i could find czech po files for gimp documentation? there exists czech translation of gimp 2.2 but the po files are not in the gimp-help-2 repo. Hi, cz PO files don't exist in the gimp-help-2 module. If you want to start a new translation for your language, you have to add cz to the gimp-help-2/configure.ac file, line 60. Then, run ./autogen.sh --without-gimp ALL_LINGUAS=cz en (you can add other languages if you want). Then make po-cz, and you will get your PO files with all strings untranslated. Julien ___ Gimp-docs mailing list Gimp-docs@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-docs
