Re: [Gimp-user] Running Gimp 2.2.12 and 2.3.12 on Windows
On Friday 15 December 2006 17:06, D. Jones wrote: I am trying to run both versions of the Gimp in Windows XP SP2. The 2.2 version runs with no problems, but the the 2.3 version indicates upon running that it is unable to locate libgimp-2.0-0.dll or libgimpui-2.0-0.dll. I set in environment Same here. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Slowing things down
Lorraine Payette wrote: How do I move from getting every single posting to just a daily digest? Much as I love being able to access all this information, I need space for other things. Can someone help me stem the tide just a bit? The trouble with digest is that it doesn't let you thread email, so it's hard to follow a conversation (at least, I find it hard). You might find you get the best of both worlds by creating a filter for gimp-user and redirecting all mail for this list to its own folder. That way, your inbox remains uncluttered but conversations remain listed in a logical order. I filter on [To or CC = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-user Digest, Vol 51, Issue 25
. Universidade Federal do Paran? Depto. de Zoologia Caixa Postal 19020 81531-990 Curitiba, Paran?, Brasil = E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone/Fone/Tel?fono: 55 41 33611764 celular: 55 41 99870543 = Zoologia na UFPR http://zoo.bio.ufpr.br/zoologia/ Ecologia e Conserva??o na UFPR http://www.bio.ufpr.br/ecologia/ - http://jjroper.googlepages.com/home Curr?culo Lattes http://lattes.cnpq.br/2553295738925812 -- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:17:22 -0800 From: Saul Goode Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Language To: James J. Roper PhD ,gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 So, my question is, how can I make it speak English to me? You merely have to create an environment variable and set its value to en. If you are using Windows: set lang=en c:\Program Files\GIMP-2.0\bin\GIMP-2.2.exe If you are using Linux, I will assume you know how to set an environment variable for the terminal shell that you prefer. :) It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. -- Harry S. Truman -- Message: 5 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:37:27 -0500 From: Lorraine Payette Subject: [Gimp-user] Slowing things down To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /lists/gimp-user/attachments/20061215/047961f2/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 6 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:43:56 -0600 From: Chris Mohler Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Slowing things down To: Lorraine Payette Cc: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed I think you need to go: https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user Scroll down, click 'Unsubscribe or Edit Options', and then change to digest mode. Or, if you'd like I'll send you a gmail invite - it's pretty good with lists, and you have almost 3 GB of space... (I don't work for google - I just like gmail for lists) Chris -- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:19:19 +0100 From: julien Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Language Cc: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-concepts-running-language.html I am new to this, so please bear with me. I live in Brazil, and use Windows in Portuguese, but would prefer to have the GIMP in English. Of course, during installation, it opted for Portuguese since that is the language of my operating system. So, my question is, how can I make it speak English to me? Thanks, Jim -- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:27:36 -0500 From: Teddy Widhi Subject: [Gimp-user] how to compile gimp under windowsXP? To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi... Bcoz i try to download the newest gimp 2.3.13 for windows still not yet in the sourceforge. maybe somebody can help me how to compile gimp 2.3.13 by myself? for linux i already installed from souce by my self. but in windows version i dont know how to do it. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /lists/gimp-user/attachments/20061216/5853a239/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 9 Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:06:46 -0500 From: Brendan Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Running Gimp 2.2.12 and 2.3.12 on Windows To: gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Friday 15 December 2006 17:06, D. Jones wrote: I am trying to run both versions of the Gimp in Windows XP SP2. The 2.2 version runs with no problems, but the the 2.3 version indicates upon running that it is unable to locate libgimp-2.0-0.dll or libgimpui-2.0-0.dll. I set in environment Same here. -- Message: 10 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:54:06 + From: David Marrs Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Slowing things down To: gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Lorraine Payette wrote: How do I move from getting every single posting to just a daily digest? Much as I love being able to access all this information, I need space for other things. Can someone help me stem the tide just a bit? The trouble with digest is that it doesn't let you thread email, so it's hard to follow a conversation (at least, I find it hard). You might find you get the best of both worlds by creating a filter for gimp-user and redirecting all mail for this list to its own folder. That way, your inbox remains uncluttered
[Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
ON another list someone was complaining about the expense nad bother of upgrading to the latest Photoshop, including licenses etc. I suggested Gimp as a no cost/no fuss alternative for students. I received a long reply, much of which I am not technically competent to answer. I have never used Photoshop. Anyone else care to take a crack at one or more issues raised? - I've checked out GIMP before. I was going to try to run it again to see if this comment held any water: There may be a feature or two that are unique to Photoshop but I'll bet you can live without them. …but X11 choked on my 34 activated fonts. From what I recall of version 2.1.x, it (and I) suffered from its aggravating GUI and inconsistent tools, and a general lack of features. That being said, if friends and family members are pining for some way to scan and modify old photos, I install GIMP for them and show them how to do it. GIMP works for casual use. I don't see it fitting into a professional workflow mainly because of the utter awkwardness of the GUI. Maybe if you're used to the Gnome UI standards or have the mindset of a programmer, it's less awkward. But that's another story. These are first year students I'm talking about here. They can barely get the OSX dock straight, let alone browsing for files in the GIMPs browser, which reveals the BSD underbelly of OSX, hidden folders and all. Update: I gave X11 some time (10 minutes on my hermetically maintained dual 1.25 G4 with 2 gigs of ram) and it finally loaded GIMP and also GIMPshop. While it seems that the feature sets have expanded quite a bit, there are still things that I use regularly in Photoshop missing. Here's a list. Adjustment layers: non-destructive editing. It can save you whole minutes if not dozens of them. CMYK Support: Come on! Wacom support- I'm sure you can get it working in linux, but we're not switching. Semi-automated extraction- a real time saver. Live filter previews- what's the point without them? Color profiles (again, come on- how is importing an image into Scribus just to apply a color profile a productive workflow?) Limited output options (a.k.a. mostly useless file types) Vanishing Point (it's actually useful) No typeface previews I could go on and on but I feel that I'm wasting breath, so to speak. Yeah, you can do a lot in the GIMP but it's just not enough. Beyond its limitations, it's difficult to use, doesn't play well with others, and would probably curl up in a ball and die if it tried to interact with our scanners on the intel machines. Photoshop saves time which saves money in the long run, and thus the software pays for itself. I'm not trying to say that GIMP isn't a great solution for Do-It-Yourselfers or Very-Small-Businesses, but if you're teaching students, there's a certain responsibility to focus on industry demands. I had a hard enough time getting them (the faculty) to give up Extensis Suitcase for Font Explorer X. -Matt (My first response follows) Interesting response. Let me answer those objections that I can. 1. Load time: On a modest Linux system and using the stable verson 2.2.13 load time 10 seconds. Modest means a 768MHZ CPU and 512 MB ram. 2. Activated fonts. I estimate about 50 X11 fonts on my system. I got tired counting them onscreen. 3. Scanner: I use an Intel machine and activating the scanner means copying the xsane program to the Gimp plugins directory. Then on next reboot it shows up automatically on the Acquire menu. I scan all the time. 4. GUI: I use KDE. Gimp adapts nicely to that. KDE resembles MSWin. I set my teeniebopper granchild down on my computer and she was able to use Mozilla which she had never seen before and Kword which she had never seen before and the KDE interface itself which she had never seen before without any instruction after I showed her where to access the programs on the menu. The dreadfulness of GUI shock is IMO much overrated. I can go back and forth between KDE, Win 2000 and Win 98 without difficulty, though of course I prefer KDE. 5. CMYK support. In fact what you see on any screen is RGB. The latest unstable Gimp will convert an image by reducing its gamut to one resembling CMYK. You can even get cmyk separations. But for print work it is probably smart to do final checking in Scribus which does the whole CMYK bit, ICC profiles for monitor and printing etc. Now I would much prefer a Gimp that worked natively in CMYK. I have been pounding the drums for that for years. --- John Culleton Able Indexing and Typesetting Precision typesetting (tm) at reasonable cost. Satisfaction guaranteed. http://wexfordpress.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Re: [Gimp-user] Slowing things down
* David Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-16-06 05:56]: The trouble with digest is that it doesn't let you thread email, so it's hard to follow a conversation (at least, I find it hard). You might find you get the best of both worlds by creating a filter for gimp-user and redirecting all mail for this list to its own folder. That way, your inbox remains uncluttered but conversations remain listed in a logical order. simple to break a digest into individual emails if you desire. Use procmail: formail -ds procmail file.txt -s (split digest or xx), pipe a file back into system as if just rec'd -d Tell formail that the messages it is supposed to split need not be in strict mail-box format formail is part of procmail. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
John R. Culleton wrote: ON another list someone was complaining about the expense nad bother of upgrading to the latest Photoshop, including licenses etc. I suggested Gimp as a no cost/no fuss alternative for students. I received a long reply, much of which I am not technically competent to answer. I have never used Photoshop. Anyone else care to take a crack at one or more issues raised? - As much as I love The Gimp (I think its the most awesome piece of open source software around), if this is a school that is specifically preparing students for digital design practices in the real world they are going to need photoshop one way or another. After all it is still the industry standard. My suggestion for this type of situation is this. Go with Photoshop licences, but not quite so many. If you were teaching my child I would want him or her to see all the main alternatives, not just the commercial one. At least if they have a few Gimp'd machines they can do some real long term testing. Maybe they can get the students trained in bug fixing and feature programming. I hear GEGL needs some help? ;) Regards, Andrew Swinn ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
On 12/16/06, Andrew Swinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John R. Culleton wrote: ON another list someone was complaining about the expense nad bother of upgrading to the latest Photoshop, including licenses etc. I suggested Gimp as a no cost/no fuss alternative for students. I received a long reply, much of which I am not technically competent to answer. I have never used Photoshop. Anyone else care to take a crack at one or more issues raised? - As much as I love The Gimp (I think its the most awesome piece of open source software around), if this is a school that is specifically preparing students for digital design practices in the real world they are going to need photoshop one way or another. After all it is still the industry standard. My suggestion for this type of situation is this. Go with Photoshop licences, but not quite so many. If you were teaching my child I would want him or her to see all the main alternatives, not just the commercial one. At least if they have a few Gimp'd machines they can do some real long term testing. Maybe they can get the students trained in bug fixing and feature programming. I hear GEGL needs some help? ;) My own 2 cents: If you're teaching a class, use Gimp. They can always adapt what they learn in Gimp to Photoshop if their company requires it. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp Advent Calendar
I've been reading the YAPAC (Yet Another Perl Advent Calendar), http://perladvent.pm.org/ Would be cool to do something similar with Gimp. -- Anthony Ettinger phone: 408-656-2473 resume: http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html Currently available for contract work blog: http://www.chovy.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop
John R. Culleton wrote: ON another list someone was complaining about the expense nad bother of upgrading to the latest Photoshop, including licenses etc. I suggested Gimp as a no cost/no fuss alternative for students. I received a long reply, much of which I am not technically competent to answer. I have never used Photoshop. Anyone else care to take a crack at one or more issues raised? I never really saw PS as the world's premier example of ease-of-use, but regardless, this guy's done his homework and has come out in favour of PS for his students. Surely he knows best? It seems a sensible enough choice to me, given its position as the industry standard. Since he's using Macs, he should probably put Seashore(1) on his watch list. It's a native fork of the Gimp, so it should help sooth his interface pains. I have no idea what the feature list is like though, or what their roadmap is. He may find it useful to look at in the future (as well as Gimp) if he's in this predicament again. Anyway, Digg, Slashdot et al should provide you with enough comparisons to make you wish you'd never started this thread. :p Regards, David (1) http://seashore.sourceforge.net/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] how to compile gimp under windowsXP?
Never tried it, but I ran across this recently http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/article/Compiling-Gimp-2-3-x-For-Windows-8606.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
