Simple jpg question

2000-09-21 Thread Rick Rosinski

I have been scanning photos with a flat-bed scanner, then
cropping each picture in the scan into separate files.
When I saved the separate files, I moved the compression-quality
to 1.00 (replacing the default .75), hoping that  I would not loose
any more quality.  I was not sure if saving a file multiple times with
.75 would continuously degrade the image.  I figured that I  would
wait until all of my modifications are done for each image before
I save the final image to .80 quality.  But, I am finding that my 
disk space is drastically declining.

My question is:

Can I crop the images into separate files, saving them at 
.80 quality, then do modifications and save them again (into a
separate file *.modified.jpg) at .80 quality without loosing 
quality after each save?

Thanks alot for all of your help.


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Photo Archive

2000-09-21 Thread Tamas Gervai

Hi,

Is there a utility to create photo archive, like Image Alchemy did before 6-7 years?

How it works: it scans the directory for know image formats, he make one (or more) big 
picture (mostly 1024x768) picture, he put thumbnails on this big picture (save image 
ratio, but possibly reorder the images to fit to the page) 

When this page(s) was created, it was clickable, to the original images, just like 
image maps in HTML.

The (one) big picture is for mostly CD-ROM archives, what is not quietly effective for 
large amount of small (thumbnail) files.


best regards,
tamas



Re: Looking for an image

2000-09-21 Thread Tobias Gärder

Wandered Inn wrote:

 Tobias Gärder wrote:

  Microsoft has got something called Live Clipart Gallery on microsoft.com
  (http://cgl.microsoft.com/clipgallerylive/default.asp?nEULA=1nInterface=0)
  where you can find pictures/illustrations/etc (the pics are usually of very
  high quality). These pictures are free to use, they are very small though
  (which is where they make money, larger size costs money :) but i've often
  used them.

 I happened to jump over and check a few out.  Unless I'm missing
 something, their some funky format *.cil, which GIMP does not
 recognize.  There are references to using them in Office

 The best I could do was to right click the thumbnail.  Then I noticed
 that if you select the image, you're provided yet another larger gif
 image in a separate window.  You can right click that image and download
 it.

 By the way, not that I need one, but I did a search for phonebooth and
 nothing was returned.


I've heard about that .cil-thingie before, i don't understand how you guys use
this service, but every
pic i've ever downloaded from that gallery has been either gif or jpeg.

I didn't know if there was a phonebooth pic in there or not, but it's like a
billion pictures, and small pics
like that are very useful anyway.. just a general tip i guess. i've had use for
it.


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Re: Filters...

2000-09-21 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Tobias Gärder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gimp-User Mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:00 AM
Subject: Filters...


 Since everyone's talking about scripts  filters...

 Does anyone know of some script/filter to create sin/cos curves? I want
 to be able to choose the tool i want to use with it, set the
 "step"amount between every mark and then the sin/cos variables +
 decimals to get some tweaked curves (which ofcourse does not end up
 where it started from the beginning).

I'm not sure if this is quite what you want but you can get perfect sine
curves by doing a repeating sinusoidal gradient and using that as a
displacement map.

--Ben

 Or do i have to get myself some old pascal vga-lib for linux and do this
 myself? =) (That was a "i don't want to do that" sentence).

 Would be great if it existed.. Really simple to do too

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Re: Photo Archive

2000-09-21 Thread Rick Rosinski

Try these.  Some are actual programs, but most are web-based 
(generating html, php - gallery generators).  There are others 
out there.  I just did a simple search on linuxlinks.com for "photo"
Also, try www.sourceforge.net (more updated than linuxlinks.com),
or freshmeat.  Good luck.

http://www.madasafish.net/~aramis/

http://www.cfutura.com/fotos/

http://toasty.mcs.muohio.edu/~moosejc/software.html

http://www.nachoz.com/gallery/

http://dougiamas.com/photoalbum/

http://photo.sourceforge.net/








On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 Hi,

 Is there a utility to create photo archive, like Image Alchemy did before
 6-7 years?

 How it works: it scans the directory for know image formats, he make one
 (or more) big picture (mostly 1024x768) picture, he put thumbnails on this
 big picture (save image ratio, but possibly reorder the images to fit to
 the page)

 When this page(s) was created, it was clickable, to the original images,
 just like image maps in HTML.

 The (one) big picture is for mostly CD-ROM archives, what is not quietly
 effective for large amount of small (thumbnail) files.


 best regards,
 tamas

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adjust /import layers function

2000-09-21 Thread HSR Koller

  Hello everybody,

  anyone to help me?

  I found two functions in the GIMP manual, but cannot find
them
  in the
  program itself.
  In the section layers on bottom of the page the functions
  "adjust layer"
  and "import layer" are desrcibed.
  I tried to find them in the program itself, but could
neither
  locate them
  in the normal pop-up menu nor in the layer pop-up menu in
the
  layerschannels dialogue.
  So: where can I find them.

  Thank you very much for your help,
  
  S. Koller

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Re: adjust /import layers function

2000-09-21 Thread Renzo Lauper

Are you using the most recent version of gimp (1.1.25)?

Renzo

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Re: Looking for an image

2000-09-21 Thread Wandered Inn

Tobias Gärder wrote:
 
 Wandered Inn wrote:
 
  Tobias Gärder wrote:
 
   Microsoft has got something called Live Clipart Gallery on microsoft.com
   (http://cgl.microsoft.com/clipgallerylive/default.asp?nEULA=1nInterface=0)
   where you can find pictures/illustrations/etc (the pics are usually of very
   high quality). These pictures are free to use, they are very small though
   (which is where they make money, larger size costs money :) but i've often
   used them.
 
  I happened to jump over and check a few out.  Unless I'm missing
  something, their some funky format *.cil, which GIMP does not
  recognize.  There are references to using them in Office
 
  The best I could do was to right click the thumbnail.  Then I noticed
  that if you select the image, you're provided yet another larger gif
  image in a separate window.  You can right click that image and download
  it.
 
  By the way, not that I need one, but I did a search for phonebooth and
  nothing was returned.
 
 
 I've heard about that .cil-thingie before, i don't understand how you guys use
 this service, but every
 pic i've ever downloaded from that gallery has been either gif or jpeg.

How did you download them?  If you select the download 'button' it
presents a file with the cil extension.  I pulled one down and 'file'
says it's data.  GIMP couldn't open it either.

 
 I didn't know if there was a phonebooth pic in there or not, but it's like a
 billion pictures, and small pics
 like that are very useful anyway.. just a general tip i guess. i've had use for
 it.
 
 --
  mvh,
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Re: Filters...

2000-09-21 Thread James Smaby

Have you messed with gnuplot?  After reading the help (which is quite
extensive) you can figure out how to modify your sin curve as you see
fit.  When you get something you like, just output to a .gif file and
play with it in gimp.  Certainly easier than coding in pascal ;)



Re: Simple jpg question

2000-09-21 Thread Jon Winters

On Wed, 20 Sep 2000, Rick Rosinski wrote:

 My question is:
 
 Can I crop the images into separate files, saving them at 
 .80 quality, then do modifications and save them again (into a
 separate file *.modified.jpg) at .80 quality without loosing 
 quality after each save?

Hi,

I'm about to scan some images today!  I'll save the scan of all the images
as one uncompressed TIFF and FTP it to my linux box at home.  When I get
home tonight I'll open the large image and cut it up into the smaller
images.  I'll save each one as a .xcf.gz because I want good quality
copies. (pristine without any compression damage)

Over the weekend I'll prep each image for the web site and save'em as
.jpg.  Later on, if my client asks me to modify one I'll return to the
.xcf.gz version because it has never been JPEGed and it has no damage.

This is the preferred way of doing things... NEVER compress an image thet
you plan on editing in the future.  Lossy compression should be the very
last step before you publish an image.

I do make an exception when I use my digital camera. I have a Nikon
Coolpix 950 and it will shoot in an uncompressed TIFF format but the
images are 5MB each and my 36MB compact flash card fills up fast.  

Until I can afford to buy a large 200MB compact flash card I'm shooting in
"fine" mode.  (full resolution JPEG with minimal compression) In
"fine" mode the images are around 700Kb.

If I do anything to edit one of the digicam images I revert to the .xcf.gz
/ .jpg system described above. 

Hope this helps.
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   "Everybody loves the GIMP!" 
  http://www.gimp.org/




Re: Photo Archive

2000-09-21 Thread Feiyi Wang

hi, 

I have been using this software "cthumb", it performs quite well for this purpose.

http://puchol.com/cpg/software/cthumb/

regards,

Feiyi

Tamas Gervai wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Is there a utility to create photo archive, like Image Alchemy did before 6-7 years?
 
 How it works: it scans the directory for know image formats, he make one (or more) 
big picture (mostly 1024x768) picture, he put thumbnails on this big picture (save 
image ratio, but possibly reorder the images to fit to the page)
 
 When this page(s) was created, it was clickable, to the original images, just like 
image maps in HTML.
 
 The (one) big picture is for mostly CD-ROM archives, what is not quietly effective 
for large amount of small (thumbnail) files.
 
 best regards,
 tamas



Re: Does this filter exist?

2000-09-21 Thread Marc Lehmann

On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:42:44PM +0200, Stephan Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  number of pixels in my image so that the extra pixels are interpolated,
  rather than simply repeated?"
 
 Exactly.  How do I do that? =)

Use the scale tool or "Image-Scale Image". The answer is so obvious that
I still don't think this is what you wanted to know?

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Re: Does this filter exist?

2000-09-21 Thread Jon Winters

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote:

 Use the scale tool or "Image-Scale Image". The answer is so obvious that
 I still don't think this is what you wanted to know?

Thats how I do it but I try to avoid scaling things UP.

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Re: Does this filter exist?

2000-09-21 Thread Stephan Henningsen

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:42:44PM +0200, Stephan Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   number of pixels in my image so that the extra pixels are interpolated,
   rather than simply repeated?"
  
  Exactly.  How do I do that? =)
 
 Use the scale tool or "Image-Scale Image". The answer is so obvious that
 I still don't think this is what you wanted to know?

And that won't stretch it like any ordinary (paint brush)
graphics tool would?

I mean an "intelligent" stretch tool.  Like you said, not
just repeat the same pixels.

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Re: Does this filter exist?

2000-09-21 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-21 at 2206.16 +0200):
  Use the scale tool or "Image-Scale Image". The answer is so obvious that
  I still don't think this is what you wanted to know?
 And that won't stretch it like any ordinary (paint brush)
 graphics tool would?

Yes, it would distort it.

 I mean an "intelligent" stretch tool.  Like you said, not
 just repeat the same pixels.

A basic rule of computing: computers are stupid.

BTW, it will not repeat the pixels, but compute new values to give you
a smooth transition.

GSR
 



Re: Does this filter exist?

2000-09-21 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-21 at 2210.43 +0200):
  I should also mention that I would scale things up only as a last
  resort.  If possible re photograph or re scan at a higher resolution.
 Say I have a 640x480 JPG I use for desktop background.  I'd
 like that to be 1152x864.  I can't simply rephotograph or
 rescan it.

Then you are out of luck. Gargage in, garbage out. Pixels can not be
created from the void, only calculated based in the original ones
(calculated, not copied).

If you want extra quality, I would select Cubic in the Scaling entry
of the Environment category of Preferences window, it is slower, but
better.

GSR
 



Re: Does this filter exist?

2000-09-21 Thread Jon Winters

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Stephan Henningsen wrote:

 On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Jon Winters wrote:
 
  I should also mention that I would scale things up only as a last
  resort.  If possible re photograph or re scan at a higher resolution.
 
 Say I have a 640x480 JPG I use for desktop background.  I'd
 like that to be 1152x864.  I can't simply rephotograph or
 rescan it.

The easiest way to scale up copyright violations is to:

Open the image

Right mouse click and select: Image  Scale Image...

Then adjust the New Width and New Height and hit [ OK ] 

If you try to scale up beyond around 10% of the image size or if the image
is very small things will degrade quickly.  Do not expect good quality
when scaling images up.

Cheers!
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exported paths - xfig etc.?

2000-09-21 Thread Ulf Mehlig

Hello out there,

I gladly discovered the path feature of (very promising!) gimp 1.1.25.
One question: Does somebody have an idea how to convert a couple of
exported path files to a file in one of the common vector graphics
formats (or is there already a utility which does the job?!) -- it
seems to me that necessary information is provided in the exported
textfile, but I'm not too experienced in those things ... however, to
do it myself, I would like to have a format description of the
exported path files (e.g., what does Type 1/Type 2 mean?). What I want
to do is the following: I loaded a satellite image and digitized some
areas in a separate layer, saving them as paths. Now I want to make a
(vector based) map ... I'm a little bit too lazy to do it with
grass ...

Can somebody help? If so (*many thanks* in advance ;-), please mail me
directly/CC: me, I'm not on the list at the moment ...

Many thanks for your attention,
Ulf

P.S.: ... and does somebody know how to measure not just distances but
  area of a selection?

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Re: Does this filter exist?

2000-09-21 Thread Ben FrantzDale


- Original Message -
From: Stephan Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Ian Boreham [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: Does this filter exist?


 On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote:

  On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:42:44PM +0200, Stephan Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
number of pixels in my image so that the extra pixels are
interpolated,
rather than simply repeated?"
  
   Exactly.  How do I do that? =)
 
  Use the scale tool or "Image-Scale Image". The answer is so obvious
that
  I still don't think this is what you wanted to know?

 And that won't stretch it like any ordinary (paint brush)
 graphics tool would?

It would stretch it b stretching it, not like paintbrush does (which I
believe is not antialiased.) Gimp antialiases but there is only so much
information in an x by y pixel image.

 I mean an "intelligent" stretch tool.  Like you said, not
 just repeat the same pixels.

The best you are going to get is filtering the output of your enlargement
which is essentially what you are looking for. Do you know of any software
that does what you'r talking about?

--Ben