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On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 07:24:45AM +1000, Andrew J Fortune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right. I didn't build any source for Perl or PDL. I don't have the foggiest notion as to where to go from here - where can I either get the complete source for these - or maybe there is an RPM that you know of that I *hope* others can provide you with an RPM of PDL, because I won't ever touch it so I don't know it. While rpm is a quick ways to install software (when and if it works), the slow and usually safer way for perl is to use CPAN. Just enter: perl -MCPAN -eshell And follow the menu. After that you should have a prompt like this: cpan Just enter "install PDL" at this prompt and chances are high that it works out of the box. If it doesn't you can use "look PDL" (enters the shell) and edit the file "perldl.conf" to your liking, followed by: perl Makefile.PL make make test make install -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
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ftp://cpan.org/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/ in your browser. On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Andrew J Fortune wrote: Marc, You are right. I didn't build any source for Perl or PDL. I don't have the foggiest notion as to where to go from here - where can I either get the complete source for these - or maybe there is an RPM that you know of that is complete ? thanks, Andrew - Original Message - From: Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew J Fortune [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jonathan E. Paton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 7:26 PM Subject: Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues. On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 04:39:43PM +1000, Andrew J Fortune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/PDL/Core/pdlcore.h:4: ppport.h: No Got any ideas about this ? Yes, you have not instzalled PDL from source, but _either_ using one of the many pdl rpm's that leave out a lot of files or one of the few pdl rpm's that are splitted into pdl and pdl-devel parts (and you didn't install the latter one). It is interesting that most of mailinglist traffic in the recent weeks is caused by the (perfectly working ;) rpm system :) -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | | : Gene Imes http://www.ozob.net :
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hi, checking for gtk-config... /usr/bin/gtk-config checking for GTK - version = 1.2.8... *** An old version of GTK+ (1.2.6) was found. *** You need a version of GTK+ newer than 1.2.8. The latest version of *** GTK+ is always available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org. *** *** If you have already installed a sufficiently new version, this error *** probably means that the wrong copy of the gtk-config shell script is *** being found. The easiest way to fix this is to remove the old version *** of GTK+, but you can also set the GTK_CONFIG environment to point to the *** correct copy of gtk-config. (In this case, you will have to *** modify your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf *** so that the correct libraries are found at run-time)) configure: error: Test for GTK failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help. [root@localhost gimp-1.1.24]# ;-) well, it tries to help you as much as it can (without getting overly technical!) firstly, you need to make sure that all of your libraries are properly linked. ldconfig -a is the command to run. secndly, you dont want /usr/lib to appear twice in your ld.so.conf file. that can mess things up (and slow down library searches!) FINALLY, are you SURE that the new gtk is in /usr/lib? have you checked under /usr/local/lib ? if its there, then add this path to your ld.so.conf and then run ldconfig -a again. hint: run 'updatedb' as root. it will take a while, but will build a directory database of your system. then, to find files on your machine, you can type locate filename-that-i-want and it'll find that file - with path. ideal for debugging problems such as this!! good luck!! alan
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hi, Got any ideas about this ? perl is the reason why I am going through all of this heartache - so I can get to the perl plug-ins (esp. perlotine). my advice is to get the full Perl 5.6 tarball and install that. alan
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Hi Andrew, If you make a compile attempt, and it fails then you go and fix the problem. Right? Of course you do, but when it fails the second time round then try a 'make clean' before reattempting the process - and then reextract the archive. I'll try and find more time later to think about it, okay. Jonathan Paton -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 04:39:43PM +1000, Andrew J Fortune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/PDL/Core/pdlcore.h:4: ppport.h: No Got any ideas about this ? Yes, you have not instzalled PDL from source, but _either_ using one of the many pdl rpm's that leave out a lot of files or one of the few pdl rpm's that are splitted into pdl and pdl-devel parts (and you didn't install the latter one). It is interesting that most of mailinglist traffic in the recent weeks is caused by the (perfectly working ;) rpm system :) -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-13 at 1126.34 +0200): It is interesting that most of mailinglist traffic in the recent weeks is caused by the (perfectly working ;) rpm system :) Perfectly working system or great package creators? :] I vote for the second, cos I have seen too many RPMs badly done (missing things, garbage left after uninstall, installs partially done, wrong owner / permissions...). I wonder if people tests things (a friend as guinea pig is great for this ;] ). GSR
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Hi all, I recommend everyone bookmarks 'www.linuxdoc.org'. Building-Sources-HOWTO and RPM-HOWTO are relevent to recent discussions. When you want to do something new it is well worth a browse, particularly if your having difficulty - not just in Linux. I sure hope Andrew is at the end of his struggles. Jonathan Paton __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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Marc, You are right. I didn't build any source for Perl or PDL. I don't have the foggiest notion as to where to go from here - where can I either get the complete source for these - or maybe there is an RPM that you know of that is complete ? thanks, Andrew - Original Message - From: Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Andrew J Fortune [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jonathan E. Paton [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 7:26 PM Subject: Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues. On Sun, Aug 13, 2000 at 04:39:43PM +1000, Andrew J Fortune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/PDL/Core/pdlcore.h:4: ppport.h: No Got any ideas about this ? Yes, you have not instzalled PDL from source, but _either_ using one of the many pdl rpm's that leave out a lot of files or one of the few pdl rpm's that are splitted into pdl and pdl-devel parts (and you didn't install the latter one). It is interesting that most of mailinglist traffic in the recent weeks is caused by the (perfectly working ;) rpm system :) -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |
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Someone's said it before, but try: gtk-config --version It should return 1.2.8, but if it doesn't then try: type gtk-config Which should return the directory the gtk-config script appears in. If you compiled it yourself then it usually appears in /usr/local/bin. If you want to know if you've got multiple versions then use: find '/' -name 'gtk-config' The gtk-config script IS NEEDED for gcc to compile the gimp with the gtk library. Just type 'gtk-config' to see the information it returns. --cflags and --lib return information needed by gcc to use the library. Hardly the best description, somebody please explain it better. When compiling programs your host option should be (For ./configure): --host i486-linux-libc5 How do I know that? Look at the 'irrelevent' bit on your 17.28 Fri 11 Aug post. I recommend you check again in /etc/ld.so.conf, since you re-installed. Remember to run 'ldconfig' after each library you compile, or it'll still see the old version. It's maybe time to clarify your sucesses and failures, since we've seen dozens of emails on your problem - and I've lost track of where we are. Jonathan Paton -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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Hi Andrew, Whilst in the act of checking whether the packages have updated correctly, try these two: gtkmm-config --version (I have 1.2.0) - GTK C++ extensions glib-config --version(I have 1.2.8) I'm surprised your having so much difficulty, I personally never bother with RPM's instead I use the sources. Like you I have little experience, but usually if you have a good base system it works nicely. Usually its a case of './configure', 'make', 'make install' and then 'ldconfig' (libs only). I know how you feel, I tried the LinuxFromScratch-HOWTO, and failed. My base system isn't new enough to compile all the things I need, so I've tried to update the compiler and so on. It ain't easy, and you soon get lost when things don't work. Rather similar to your situation... I'm listening. Jonathan Paton __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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Hi Fellow Gimpers...
My goal is to be able to install GIMP v1.1.24 with the perl plug-ins. I have
still not been able to do so after 3 to 4 weeks.
Just to recap, I have been trying two things
(1) I compiled the source, downloaded from the GIMP's FTP site. Here is a
run-down of the error I am getting when running ./configure (after
successfully untarring the package) :
[root@localhost gimp-1.1.24]# ./configure
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... found
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... found
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... missing
checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you
must specify one
I have make, automake and autoconf installed. As well as this, I have perl
5.005, gtk 1.2.8 and glib 1.2.8 installed (I did an rpm -Uvh --force to
upgrade these, so that may have adversely affected the results).
To help resolve this, I was advised to run uname -a, and here are the
results :
[root@localhost gimp-1.1.24]# uname -a
Linux localhost.localdomain 2.2.14-15mdkfb #1 Tue Jan 4 21:59:43 CET 2000
i586 unknown
(2) I located an RPM for v1.1.24 with perl included. When I had installed it
and ran GIMP, nothing happenednot even an error message not
helpful...
So, can anyone advise me further on this ?
thanks,
Andrew
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./configure --host=i386-unknown-linux or ./configure --host=i386-unknown-linux-gnu I need to specify this for quite a few things on my alpha (well, with the obvious change). Do a "./configure --help" if you want to see all the options.
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Thanks, James. This got me a bit further. I am also getting an apparently non-fatal message "makeinfo... missing" during the configure, but it keeps chugging along. It eventually falls over with an error "C compiler cannot create executables". I have gcc v2.95 installed - I thought this was enough ? Any more ideas ? regards, Andrew - Original Message - From: James Smaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 11:18 PM Subject: Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues. ./configure --host=i386-unknown-linux or ./configure --host=i386-unknown-linux-gnu I need to specify this for quite a few things on my alpha (well, with the obvious change). Do a "./configure --help" if you want to see all the options.
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Boy, you're sure having a tough time. It seems your compiler is configured wrong (do you never compile things?). I've had similar problems on my SGI (I've actually given up on it). I suggest reinstalling the compiler if it doesn't work for other source as well (if it normall works, I don't know). Make sure that the compiler is for your architecture; i686 will not work on a normal pentium or K6II. Given that uname gives out i586, this could be your problem. Perhaps somebody else will have a better idea.
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Thanks, James -- and Alan -- for your persistent help with this problem. James - in answer to your question (do you never compile things ?), I am a very inexperienced compiler - at least in the Linux world. Believe it or not, I have made some progress - although it is still falling over during the ./configure stage. I have done the following : - Re-installed Mandrake Linux from scratch, and chose the 'Developer' option (I thought that I had done this before, but obviously it didn't recognize my compiler). - Executed "rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps gtk+-1.2.8-1.i386.rpm" to upgrade GTK+ from the 1.2.6 version that was installed. - Did likewise for glib. - Executed "rpm -q" for both of these packages to ensure that the latest version (i.e. 1.2.8) was indeed installed. It was. - Ensured the version of Perl was up-to-date (v5.00503 I think). - Copied gimp-1.1.24.tar.gz across to a sub-directory of /root. - Successfully untarred, i.e. "tar zxvf gimp-1.1.24.tar.gz". - Ran "./configure --host=i586-pc-linux-gnu". It successfully got past my previous error. It went much further thru' the configure, but fell over, as follows : checking for gtk-config... /usr/bin/gtk-config checking for GTK - version = 1.2.8... *** An old version of GTK+ (1.2.6) was found. *** You need a version of GTK+ newer than 1.2.8. The latest version of *** GTK+ is always available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org. *** *** If you have already installed a sufficiently new version, this error *** probably means that the wrong copy of the gtk-config shell script is *** being found. The easiest way to fix this is to remove the old version *** of GTK+, but you can also set the GTK_CONFIG environment to point to the *** correct copy of gtk-config. (In this case, you will have to *** modify your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf *** so that the correct libraries are found at run-time)) configure: error: Test for GTK failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help. [root@localhost gimp-1.1.24]# Seeing as I had installed GTK+-1.2.8 and glib 1.2.8, apparently successfully (see above) - I don't understand why it still says that 1.2.6 is still installed ?? It must be that some artifacts have been left behind in one of the config files ? I looked at the gtk-config file, but was confronted with a very daunting script. I also enquired on the LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, by keying in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH at the prompt. It returned nothing. Finally, I had a look at /etc/ld.so.conf, and the contents are as follows, but seem irrelevant to this problem : /usr/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib /usr/lib Thanks in advance regards, Andrew - Original Message - From: James Smaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 12:52 AM Subject: Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues. Boy, you're sure having a tough time. It seems your compiler is configured wrong (do you never compile things?). I've had similar problems on my SGI (I've actually given up on it). I suggest reinstalling the compiler if it doesn't work for other source as well (if it normall works, I don't know). Make sure that the compiler is for your architecture; i686 will not work on a normal pentium or K6II. Given that uname gives out i586, this could be your problem. Perhaps somebody else will have a better idea.
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Well, you're original gtk was the mdk version, right? If this is the case, then your `upgrade' using the redhat binary didnt uninstall the mandrake version first. I suggest doing this by hand, then installing the redhat rpm. I thought both of these distributions put gtk in /usr, but you may want to see if your newer gtk-config script is in '/usr/local/bin' If this is the case, then you can probably just delete the old file, and hope things get found okay (that's how my system is set up, with an old version in /usr/lib, but I don't like it that way).
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Thanks again, James. I did this, but it got in a big knot. Probably something to do with the fact that I had already attempted to install GTK v1.2.8 So I rebuilt the developers' version of Mandrake Linux (yet again!!). One of the first things that I did after that was to remove GTK using the command 'rpm -ev --nodeps gtk+'. I did likewise with glib. This was to, in theory at least, remove the old mdk version as you suggested. Then I installed the 1.8 versions of GTK and glib (e.g. for GTK, I said 'rpm - ivh gtk+-1.2.8-1.i386.rpm'). I then went thru' the hoops of untarring and then attempting to configure as before, but this error message still came up. (I was in a sub-directory of /root when I did all of this) Do you know what I can do from here ? (please don't say 'give up' :)). regards, Andrew P.S. what is this 'gtk_config' file for anyway ? - Original Message - From: James Smaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 10:34 AM Subject: Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues. Well, you're original gtk was the mdk version, right? If this is the case, then your `upgrade' using the redhat binary didnt uninstall the mandrake version first. I suggest doing this by hand, then installing the redhat rpm. I thought both of these distributions put gtk in /usr, but you may want to see if your newer gtk-config script is in '/usr/local/bin' If this is the case, then you can probably just delete the old file, and hope things get found okay (that's how my system is set up, with an old version in /usr/lib, but I don't like it that way).
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hi,
checking for working makeinfo... missing
checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you
must specify one
I have make, automake and autoconf installed. As well as this, I have perl
5.005, gtk 1.2.8 and glib 1.2.8 installed (I did an rpm -Uvh --force to
upgrade these, so that may have adversely affected the results).
this has already been answered twice last week. something on your machine
is not installed - or running. possibly an identd??
you need to add --host i686-pc-linux-gnu
after your ./configure command
(thats if you've got a PentiumPro/II or III system )
other environments are:
ac_cv_host=${ac_cv_host='i686-pc-linux-gnu'}
ac_cv_host_alias=${ac_cv_host_alias='i686-pc-linux-gnu'}
ac_cv_host_cpu=${ac_cv_host_cpu='i686'}
ac_cv_host_os=${ac_cv_host_os='linux-gnu'}
ac_cv_host_vendor=${ac_cv_host_vendor='pc'}
best wishes!
alan
