Re: about xdg-user-dirs

[Claude Paroz]

Hey Alex,

Could you please help us on this matter?

See also:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2017-September/msg00119.html
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100635
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102459

Seems things are currently blocked by Mikel Olasagasti Uranga having 
lost git access.


Thanks!

Claude

Le 14. 03. 18 à 02:09, Fabio Tomat a écrit :
I really don't know why freedesktop.org  won't 
change the gpg key  
(or ignore the bug) for the xdg-user-dirs maintainer, but it's 
unacceptable that since 2016-11-16 a translation is still not commited, 
It sound like the project is in an abandoned state.
If even the maintainer can't do nothing, I really don't know what to do, 
It seems a rubber wall and the worst thing is that this is ruining the 
overall perception of desktop completeness and consistency for my 
language and maybe for any new language added.


Sorry for annoying you with this problem again I know it's not strictly 
a GNOME related issue



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Re: seahorse comments needed

[Claude Paroz]

Le 14. 03. 18 à 01:22, Fabio Tomat a écrit :
In seahorse does anyone know what the strings "Created on" and "Set as 
default" refers to?

a key or a keyring?

In these cases should I write a bug request or just ask here in the 
mailing list?


Bug request is preferred, so as the developer can add a translator comment.

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Re: String additions to GNOME Software 3.28 for purchase errors

[Claude Paroz]

Le 09. 03. 18 à 16:50, Piotr Drąg a écrit :

2018-03-09 7:18 GMT+01:00 Robert Ancell :

Hi,

I'd like to request a string freeze break for a change in GNOME Software
[1].

The change is to add new error messages when purchasing apps. This code is
not currently used by any in-tree plugins so is unlikely to be seen by any
current user.

The strings are:
"Unable to purchase %s: authentication was required"
"Unable to purchase %s: authentication was invalid"
"Unable to purchase %s: no payment method setup"
"Unable to purchase %s: payment was declined"
"Unable to purchase %s"

Thanks,
--Robert

[1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/merge_requests/28



With the release on Monday, I feel like it’s too late for non-critical
changes. I can’t give you my approval.


Agreed, this should be for 3.28.1 (count this as i18n approval 1/2 for 
3.28.1).


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Re: Quality check for docs

[Claude Paroz]

Le 08. 03. 18 à 12:29, Daniel Mustieles García a écrit :

It works really good, thanks for taking care of this!

I'd like to suggest an improve to it: old translated strings (beggining 
with "#" should not be taken into account when checking the syntax, to 
avoid noise in the report. Is it possible to do so?


We'll find out here:

https://github.com/translate/translate/issues/3775

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Re: Quality check for docs

[Claude Paroz]

Le 08. 03. 18 à 11:11, Hannie Dumoleyn a écrit :

Op 08-03-18 om 09:58 schreef Claude Paroz:

Hi translators,

I just activated a small new functionality for uploaded docs po file 
on l10n.gnome.org.
You'll notice a new icon top right of comments with doc po files, 
allowing to run an xml quality check through translate-toolkit pofilter.


We might use other pofilter checks (also for ui files) depending on 
your feedback. This may also be team-specific.


Claude


Sorry, Claude, but I have no idea what you are talking about. Do you 
mean the translation of gnome-user-docs 3.28, see [1]


Absolutely, try clicking the new icon (hand below two checkmarks) top 
right of the po file.


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Quality check for docs

[Claude Paroz]

Hi translators,

I just activated a small new functionality for uploaded docs po file on 
l10n.gnome.org.
You'll notice a new icon top right of comments with doc po files, 
allowing to run an xml quality check through translate-toolkit pofilter.


We might use other pofilter checks (also for ui files) depending on your 
feedback. This may also be team-specific.


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Re: help to commit translated files

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07. 03. 18 à 05:17, Alam a écrit :

Hi

I need help to commit translated files for some projects like
gnome-shell, which are moved to gitlab. Previously files were
committing with git account and my team was not using Damned
Lies web interface.

Is it possible for enable Damned Lies access for Punjabi team?


Sure, done.

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Re: Updated month name translations needed in GLib

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21. 02. 18 à 12:49, Philip Withnall a écrit :

(...)  We’ve got a few unit tests which depend on translations
existing for the new month name strings[2] which are currently broken
due to the new strings being missing in the following locales:
  • fr_FR


fr_FR is done.

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network-manager-applet translations

[Claude Paroz]

Hey Lubomir,

The various network-manager-* translations are currently handled through 
the GNOME translation project.

However, someone noticed that commit:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/network-manager-applet/commit/?id=0602c3fa6c
which simply overwrite and bypass the work of GNOME translators which is 
not nice at all!


If the network manager maintainers decide to not use the GNOME 
translation project any longer, that's their choice, but then please 
let's communicate that clearly.
If that's not the case, then please do not mix translation sources 
without the agreement from the translation coordinators.


Thanks for your understanding!

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Re: Maintanership transfer for Estonian team

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07. 02. 18 à 18:36, Priit Laes a écrit :

Dear Fellow l10n/i18n-izers!

I would like pass on my coordinator/maintainer responsibilities for the 
Estonian translation effort to Mart Raudsepp.

Mart has been already been involved with GNOME project for years, and he 
already has commit access.

Also, worth mentioning that Estonian team was not using Damned Lies (instead we 
used mailinglist based reviews), but it's up to Mart to figure out the new 
process ;)

Thanks,
Priit :)


Hi Priit,

MANY thanks for all your translation work for GNOME during these past 
years. That is so precious!


And welcome Mart in your new coordinator role. Congrats!
https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/et/

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Re: GCab 1.1

[Claude Paroz]

Le 26. 01. 18 à 17:17, Piotr Drąg a écrit :

2018-01-26 11:26 GMT+01:00 Claude Paroz <cla...@2xlibre.net>:



That was an issue with D-L reading the meson build file (which was itself
fine).
Should be fixed now.



Thank you for fixing it!

Could you take a look at fwupd? It seems damned-lies doesn’t like its
po/meson.build.

https://l10n.gnome.org/module/fwupd/


Hopefully done.

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Re: GCab 1.1

[Claude Paroz]

Le 26. 01. 18 à 10:38, Richard Hughes a écrit :

On 25 January 2018 at 21:44, Enrico  wrote:

Please, could you take a look at an error on generating the POt file?


I'm not sure what's wrong there. Is it perhaps some issue with the
switch to meson? If it helps, you can generate the pot file localy
using `ninja meson-gcab-update-po`


That was an issue with D-L reading the meson build file (which was 
itself fine).

Should be fixed now.

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Re: kk@latin coordinator

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21. 01. 18 à 09:11, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :

Hi,

Just noticed there is kk@latin language created.

What is the current process to request a coordinatorship
on a team? I am the current coordinator for kk,
I suppose I will need to take care of kk@latin too,
when the final latin script for Kazakh language establishes.


I just attributed kk@latin to the Kazakh team.
https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/kk/

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Re: Afrikaans Translation

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Hey Peter,

As Friedel didn't answer, I set you up as the new Afrikaans coordinator.
We can always revert that at some point if Friedel becomes active again.

Cheers,

Claude

Le 18. 12. 17 à 01:13, Chris Leonard a écrit :

FWIW, I haven't heard from Friedel through my channels of reaching him.

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 4:45 AM, Pieter Schalk Schoeman
<pie...@sonbesie.co.za> wrote:

Hi

Any news regarding the Afrikaans translation team.

Thank You.

Op So, 2017-12-10 om 15:05 -0500 skryf Chris Leonard:

I pinged Friedel on the Pootle Gitter page, left a link ot the above
e-mail.

cjl

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Claude Paroz <cla...@2xlibre.net>
wrote:


Le 04. 12. 17 à 13:21, Pieter Schalk Schoeman a écrit :


Hi

The Afrikaans project coordinator Friedel Wolff is not responding
to
any of my emails. I have been attempting to contact him since
Friday 24
November 2017. I have already sent 3 emails, two from this email
and
one from an university email to avoid junk folders. I also mailed
all
of the previous reviewers with no luck.

As I am currently the only active person on the team I would like
to
become the coordinator. If Friedel decides to continue with the
translation at a later stage I would gladly give up the position.

Thank you.



Hi Pieter,

I'm adding Friedel in copy of this message so he can comment on
your
proposal to become the new Afrikaans coordinator.

Friedel?

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Re: Afrikaans Translation

[Claude Paroz]

Le 04. 12. 17 à 13:21, Pieter Schalk Schoeman a écrit :

Hi

The Afrikaans project coordinator Friedel Wolff is not responding to
any of my emails. I have been attempting to contact him since Friday 24
November 2017. I have already sent 3 emails, two from this email and
one from an university email to avoid junk folders. I also mailed all
of the previous reviewers with no luck.

As I am currently the only active person on the team I would like to
become the coordinator. If Friedel decides to continue with the
translation at a later stage I would gladly give up the position.

Thank you.


Hi Pieter,

I'm adding Friedel in copy of this message so he can comment on your 
proposal to become the new Afrikaans coordinator.


Friedel?

Warm regards,

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Re: New Team for Nepal Bhasha (new)

[Claude Paroz]

Le 08. 11. 17 à 05:04, Pawan Chitrakar a écrit :

Hello,

           I send you this e-mail to officially  start a new team to the 
translation project.



Full name                                    : Pawan Chitrakar
E-mail                                          : pchitra...@gmail.com 

Bugzilla account                        : pchitra...@gmail.com 


English name of the language: Nepal Bhasha
Native name of the language : Nepa Bhasa
Mailing list address                  : pchitra...@gmail.com 



Pawan,

Can you translate one file of your choice in Nepal Bhasha and send it to 
me personally? This will allow me to initiate stats for this language 
and create the necessary team structure.


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Re: Unable to commit to repository for accountservices translation

[Claude Paroz]

Le 08. 11. 17 à 06:58, Pawan Chitrakar a écrit :

Dear All,

I have been updating some nepali translation and was able to commit to 
repository ..


but could not commit to repository for accountservices translation


Hi Pawan,

Just go to https://l10n.gnome.org/module/accountsservice/ and read the 
note under the module name. There's a link to the Transifex page where 
AccountsService can be translated.


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Shotwell 0.26 releases

[Claude Paroz]

Hello Jens,

I'd like to know if you are still planning releases from the 0.26 branch 
of Shotwell.
For example, the French translation has been updated on master and we 
wonder if it's worth backporting to the 0.26 branch.


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Re: New team for haitian Creole (ht)

[Claude Paroz]

The Team page is now ready.
https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/ht/

Happy translating!


Le 25. 10. 17 à 16:52, Pierre Michel Augustin a écrit :

Hello,

            At GNOME 3.26, I translete the file of *caribou master* in 
Haitian Creole find that it find in *User Interface, Module Accessiblity 
(Entèfas Itilizatè, Modil Aksesibilite). *I wait patiently for the 
necessary consequences.



Thank you,


Pierre Michel AUGUSTIN 
, 


Ingénieur en Informatique, MGTI
Limbé, Haïti
+509 38 15 75 91 / +509 33 28 76 95

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Re: New team for haitian Creole (ht)

[Claude Paroz]

Hi Pierre Michel,

We are always pleased to host new languages for GNOME, welcome !

Generally, I ask for a first translated po file to initiate a new language.
May I ask you to browse https://l10n.gnome.org/ and choose a (not too 
big) module to translate, then send the translated po file to me directly?


I'll then do the necessary work to add the language/team for your language.

Happy translating!

Claude

Le 09. 10. 17 à 18:11, Pierre Michel Augustin a écrit :

Hello,

           I send you this e-mail to officially  start a new team to the 
translation project.



Full name                                    : Pierre Michel AUGUSTIN
E-mail                                          : 
augustinpierremic...@hotmail.com

Bugzilla account                        : augustinpierremic...@hotmail.com
English name of the language: Haitian creole
Native name of the language : Kreyòl ayisyen
Mailing list address                  : augustinpierremic...@hotmail.com


Yours,

Pierre Michel AUGUSTIN 
, 


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Re: [DL] String additions to 'gnome-boxes.gnome-3-26'

[Claude Paroz]

Le 02. 10. 17 à 15:23, Alexandre Franke a écrit :

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Felipe Borges  wrote:

Thanks for getting back so fast. I made a 3.26.1 release without the
changes and I will pursue the freeze break exception for 3.26.2.


That sounds reasonable, you get +1/2 from me. Do you plan to release
3.26.2 with the GNOME 3.26.2, or sooner?


Approval 2/2 for i18n.

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Re: documentation translations

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21. 09. 17 à 20:10, Claude Paroz a écrit :

Le 21. 09. 17 à 20:04, Piotr Drąg a écrit :
2017-09-21 11:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mustieles García 
<daniel.mustie...@gmail.com>:

And what about trying to implement this on DL?

Some weeks ago, I proposed a possible solution for this [1]. Although 
it's

not perfect, it would be better than nothing, and we always can add some
error control to avoid breaking the repo



https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/pull/2216 should help us here.


Oh, nice!

I'll try to implement the DL part ASAP.


I don't see any GNOME help module having a LINGUAS file for now.

I'd be grateful to be informed if this is the case at some point.

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Re: documentation translations

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21. 09. 17 à 20:04, Piotr Drąg a écrit :

2017-09-21 11:44 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mustieles García :

And what about trying to implement this on DL?

Some weeks ago, I proposed a possible solution for this [1]. Although it's
not perfect, it would be better than nothing, and we always can add some
error control to avoid breaking the repo



https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/pull/2216 should help us here.


Oh, nice!

I'll try to implement the DL part ASAP.

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Re: gthumb module in feature/string/ui freeze

[Claude Paroz]

Le 15. 09. 17 à 19:10, Paolo Bacchilega a écrit :

Il 15/09/2017 10:36, Claude Paroz ha scritto:

Le 11. 09. 17 à 19:35, Paolo Bacchilega via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hello,

the gthumb module is in feature/ui/string freeze mode now, please 
update the translations.  The final release is expected in three/four 
weeks.


Hi Paolo,

You have a typo in an appdata string: trasformations -> transformations.


Are you sure you are translating the latest version? because in the 
master branch it's already "transformations":


https://git.gnome.org/browse/gthumb/tree/data/appdata/gthumb.appdata.xml.in#n22 


I was indeed translating in the gnome-3-4 branch, which is listed in 
stable branches on

https://l10n.gnome.org/languages/C/gnome-extras-stable/ui/

You didn't specify in your initial mail the target was now master.
Please in the future, as soon as you don't plan any more releases on a 
stable branch, inform us so that we can update its status.


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Re: gthumb module in feature/string/ui freeze

[Claude Paroz]

Le 11. 09. 17 à 19:35, Paolo Bacchilega via gnome-i18n a écrit :

Hello,

the gthumb module is in feature/ui/string freeze mode now, please update 
the translations.  The final release is expected in three/four weeks.


Hi Paolo,

You have a typo in an appdata string: trasformations -> transformations.
In the string "Stretch the histogram trimming the 0.5%", are you sure 
the last "the" is not "to"?


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Re: String Freeze break for Tweaks

[Claude Paroz]

Le 11. 09. 17 à 06:00, Piotr Drąg a écrit :

2017-09-11 1:55 GMT+02:00 Jeremy Bicha :

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Piotr Drąg  wrote:
Tweaks is sometimes used to work around late changes elsewhere so I
think maybe a bit more flexibility is appropriate?



I’m willing to give a +1 for adding the string after the 3.26.0
release. So we get a “clean” .0 release, three weeks to translate it,
and Ubuntu is satisfied.


Approval 2/2 for i18n.

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Re: commit totem nepali translation for gnome development

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Le 18. 08. 17 à 10:44, Andika Triwidada a écrit :

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:21 AM, CHAUTARI  wrote:

hi claude its the same I cannot commit.. please have a look

Thanks
pawan


And now?

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Re: commit totem nepali translation for gnome development

[Claude Paroz]

Maybe a caching issue? I restarted the server process, can you check 
again (and force-refresh your page)?


Le 17. 08. 17 à 15:05, Muhammet Kara a écrit :

Hi Claude,

I have the same issue on Turkish translation, and I still don't see the 
"Send to repository" action. Could you please take a look at it?


Cheers,
Muhammet

2017-08-17 14:59 GMT+03:00 Claude Paroz <cla...@2xlibre.net 
<mailto:cla...@2xlibre.net>>:


Le 17. 08. 17 à 12:23, CHAUTARI a écrit :

From: "CHAUTARI" <chaut...@gmail.com <mailto:chaut...@gmail.com>
<mailto:chaut...@gmail.com <mailto:chaut...@gmail.com>>>
 thank you Rafael.
 please check
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/master/po/ne
<https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/master/po/ne>
 <https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/master/po/ne
<https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/master/po/ne>>

 i changed the status to ready for submission but there is
no option
 for submitting to repository ..


Strangely, the git root URL for totem was not appropriately set. I
fixed that, so you should be able to push now.

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Re: commit totem nepali translation for gnome development

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Le 17. 08. 17 à 12:23, CHAUTARI a écrit :

From: "CHAUTARI" >
thank you Rafael.
please check
https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/totem/master/po/ne


i changed the status to ready for submission but there is no option
for submitting to repository ..


Strangely, the git root URL for totem was not appropriately set. I fixed 
that, so you should be able to push now.


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Re: First post! Also, how to submit translation and mnemonic changes for GIMP?

[Claude Paroz]

Le 14. 08. 17 à 09:58, C R a écrit :

Hi all! I was directed here from #gimp irc to help with the British
English translations, and to fix mnemonic key conflicts in GIMP, which
are a major workflow bottleneck in the development release.

Could someone please let me know the best way to submit these changes for GIMP?


(...)

Create an account on https://l10n.gnome.org, join the British English 
translation team and submit new po files for the GIMP starting from here:

https://l10n.gnome.org/languages/en_GB/gnome-gimp/ui/

Hope this helps,

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Re: Regarding Translation of GIMP in Marathi Language...

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Le 12. 08. 17 à 12:40, Snehalata Shirude a écrit :

Dear Sir,

North Maharashtra University, Jalgaon, Maharashtra is a NAAC accredited 
university with 'A' Grade.


In School of Computer Sciences of the university, we have formed a team 
of MSc Computer Science students and wish to contribute in the GNOME 
translation project (Marathi language) for GIMP software.


Dear professors,

I would like to thank you for this nice initiative. It would be so great 
to see Marathi translations progressing again for GNOME software!



We have already read about translation information from website
https://developer.gimp.org/README.i18n 
. Furthermore, we have 
understood the procedural part to add translations for various catalogs 
(.po and .pot).


We also have checked team database for Marathi language and status of 
the work done for the same. The progress is merely 2% and the existing 
members are also tagged as inactive members.


We can work on this project and complete the task soon.

We want to know whether and how these newly created .po and .pot files 
would be incorporated into the GIMP distribution?


I would encourage you to use our translation tracking application at
https://l10n.gnome.org/languages/mr/gnome-gimp/ui/ and upload the result 
of your work there.
Then, if no Marathi language coordinator is active any longer, you can 
write again on this mailing list, pointing to uploaded .po files and 
asking for them to be committed. I'm sure other coordinators will be 
pleased to help you for that.


Working on the master branch, you will target the GIMP 2.10 release 
(seehttps://wiki.gimp.org/wiki/Roadmap). You could always backport some 
of those translations to the 2.8 stable release if GIMP 2.10 is delayed 
too much.


Happy translating!

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Re: Incomplete .pot/.po files for several modules

[Claude Paroz]

Le 13. 08. 17 à 13:39, Ask Hjorth Larsen a écrit :

Hi,

2017-08-12 22:33 GMT+02:00 Piotr Drąg :

A quick PSA,

damned-lies generates incomplete .pot/.po files for totem,
totem-pl-parser, nautilus-sendto, and gnome-bluetooth, and it’s
unlikely to change until
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783099 is fixed.


Back in the day we could always could on intltool-update to do the
job.  Nowadays things are... complicated :).  Would it not make sense
to request that all projects provide a specific command (whether
intl-tool update or not) that updates the messages for a particular
language?  That way damned lies won't have to do so much maintenance
work, and the developers are familiar with their own build system
anyway.  Also life becomes easy for those who have the habit of
committing to git directly.


I would like to fully support this claim.
Having to use the software build system to update .pot or .po files is a 
BIG loss for the translation toolchain.
The patch recently added to Damned-Lies to be able to properly rebuild 
pot files for meson-based modules are mainly hacks, not a proper resolution.


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Re: Position of "latin" items in lists in RTL-locale contexts

[Claude Paroz]

Le 15. 05. 17 à 23:10, Marcus Lundblad a écrit :

tis 2017-05-16 klockan 00:30 +0430 skrev mousavi.ar...@gmail.com:

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Marcus Lundblad 
wrote:


I guess this could be achieved by inserting Unicode directional
override characters in the beginning of the string and at each
breaking
arrow to get the right rendering direction.

Does this make sense to someone knowledgeable in RTL writing
systems?


Hi Marcus,

I just checked and putting a RLM[1] character when both or one of the
places are written with RTL characters works fine. However when both
are in latin, the arrow looks reverse since the direction is actually
not changed. So my suggestion is to use the ltr arrow when both
places
are in latin and rtl when one of them are in RTL. Other solution
would
be to place each part separately and force their direction. Something
like  and float in HTML and CSS, so each place and the arrow
would be in their own container and you don't rely on the free text
and RLM character.

Best Wishes,
Arash

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-left_mark


Hi!

Thanks for your answer Arash!
I attached a patch to the aforementioned bug which I think should do
achieve the goal (embedding each component with the RLM or LRM
depending on the locale). From some quick testing it kinda looks right
to me. But it would be great with more testing (I might very well be
missing something obvious here).


What about just offering the whole expression to translate: "%s → %s".
Someone should check that the printf syntax ("%2$s ← %1$s") is properly 
handled in JS code.


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Re: damned lies

[Claude Paroz]

Le 01. 05. 17 à 14:12, Fabio Tomat a écrit :

Greetings
I'm the coordinator of friulian.
Today I realized that in damned lies, at the user settings, when I look
at the languages available for the web site, they are all written in the
native language, except for "Friulian" which should be "Furlan".

Where can I fix that problem?


Hi Fabio,

The localized names are taken from a Django structure:
https://github.com/django/django/blob/master/django/conf/locale/__init__.py 
(See the 'name_local key).


In the long term, providing a Friulian translation to Django could be nice.
Meanwhile, it shouldn't be too hard to adapt the code with some 
hardcoded names here:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/damned-lies/tree/people/views.py#n39

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Re: translation team es_MX

[Claude Paroz]

Le 16. 04. 17 à 07:19, Jesús Castro a écrit :
> Hello everyone!
> first time here, and i just saw this
> (https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/es_MX/) and realize that there are no
> coordinator, no reviewers and no 'some-one-to-do-commits', i want to
> take part on that :^)

Hi Jesús,

> what is the procedure?
> what is needed?

Read
https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/TeamCoordinatorResponsibilities

I think I would contact people having recently contributed, maybe setup
a mailing list to communicate within your team.

Then write again on this list officially asking to be the new coordinator.

Thanks for stepping up!

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Re: Commit and enable Finnish GIMP docs

[Claude Paroz]

Le 28. 03. 17 à 12:15, Jiri Grönroos a écrit :
> Unfortunately enabling a language via configure.ac 
> doesn't affect those limitations that Damned Lies faces when it comes to
> adding new docs/help translations. 

I can confirm this.
Due to the variety of ways to add new language codes for documentation,
DL refuses to guess and simply block the commit.

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Re: Damned Lies vs git statistic

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21. 03. 17 à 16:23, Danylo Korostil a écrit :
(...)

> I used to have few commands to handle my workflow,approximately I
> update 100 modules during string freeze period. Some of them is really
> small (update few strings), so, git pull&&&
> commit& push was really fast. 

Note that you should be able to keep your workflow and replace
"intltool-update" by "wget -O po/language.po
https://l10n.gnome.org/POT/module.branch/module.branch.language.po;.
It is more verbose, but you could make some alias. Unfortunately, it
would be a bit more complicated to replace the merge functionaliy of
intltool-update (in the case you already modified your po file).

As the one who have to adapt DL code for various po creation/update
methods, I also agree having a common method would be simpler.

However, the "intltool to pure gettext" current transition is probably
unavoidable, as intltool is mostly unmaintained these days and gettext
made real progress wrt extracting strings from various formats.

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Re: Removing old stats

[Claude Paroz]

Le 20. 03. 17 à 15:45, Alexandre Franke a écrit :
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 10:27 AM, Claude Paroz <cla...@2xlibre.net> wrote:
>> I'm planning to remove statistics for older GNOME soon (2.32, 3.0, 3.2,
>> 3.4, 3.6).
>> Any opposal?
> 
> Losing history is always a bit sad. Is this something we’ve done
> regularly in the past? Is it a question of  performance or storage?
> Not strongly opposing it, but I think we should try to keep this
> information if possible.

We are not completely losing history. A sort of summary is kept in the
form of a CSV file. I just made them available from:

https://l10n.gnome.org/media/archives/

Would that address your concerns?

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Removing old stats

[Claude Paroz]

Hello,

I'm planning to remove statistics for older GNOME soon (2.32, 3.0, 3.2,
3.4, 3.6).
Any opposal?

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Re: Translation of restructuredtext

[Claude Paroz]

Le 16. 03. 17 à 12:40, Alexandre Franke a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> GNOME Builder documentation moved to the rst format. I found
> http://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/stable/intl.html so there’s a way to use
> gettext with it, question is whether Damned lies will be able to do it
> (as I am not aware of any other module using this format). Any idea?

I don't doubt it's possible, as I did something like that for the Django
project.

However, the question is more: are we going to spend time to
develop specific toolchains for every docs techology in the wild?
Those developments take time, and there is a reason why most GNOME
packages use similar tools when possible. That does not mean tools
cannot be changed, but still we should aim to have and follow some
standards.

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Re: [update] l10n.gnome.org maintenance Feb 22 (not 27) 11:00 am CET

[Claude Paroz]

Tomorrow is February 22, of course!
Sorry.

Claude

Le 21. 02. 17 à 14:49, Claude Paroz a écrit :

Dear translators,

A server change will happen tomorrow February 27 for l10n.gnome.org.
The site will not be available around 11:00 am CET. We'll try to
minimize the offline time as much as possible.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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l10n.gnome.org maintenance Feb 27 11:00 am CET

[Claude Paroz]

Dear translators,

A server change will happen tomorrow February 27 for l10n.gnome.org.
The site will not be available around 11:00 am CET. We'll try to 
minimize the offline time as much as possible.


Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Re: UI and string changes in gnome-maps

[Claude Paroz]

Le 15. 02. 17 à 21:39, Marcus Lundblad a écrit :

There's some new strings:

For the search interface:

"Leave Now" - indicates searching for the next available transit trip

(...)

Hello Marcus,

Thanks for the announcement. However, it would be awesome if those 
comments were directly in the UI file, so they would automatically 
appear for the translators. Glade allows for translator comments, AFAIK.


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Re: GParted 0.28.0 to be Released Feb 14, 2017

[Claude Paroz]

Le 06. 02. 17 à 21:28, Alexandre Franke a écrit :

Hi,

On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Curtis Gedak  wrote:

Thank you for reporting this string discrepancy.

Because we have already received some updated translations for the
0.28.0 release of GParted, we will hold off on updating the string until
after the official release on Feb 14, 2017.

At that time we plan to change the string to read:

"partition contains open LUKS encryption for a check file system only step"


My two cents on this is that it doesn't really make sense to keep the
bad string just because there are already some translations. Instead
of making “less work” for translators, you're actually making more
work for them. You will have more translators translate the bad
string, and then you will have all translator translate the fixed
string. If this was during the GNOME cycle and you'd be asking for a
freeze break for this, given the context and given the remaining time
till release, I'd grant 1 of 2 needed approvals.

You can wait for someone else from the i18n to confirm this if you're not sure.


Confirmed, if needed!

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Re: Belarusian l10n team coordinator resignation

[Claude Paroz]

Hello Ihar,

I updated the site. Many thanks for all these years of service for the 
GNOME Belarusian community!


Claude

Le 30. 01. 17 à 19:24, Ihar Hrachyshka a écrit :

Sorry that email was using wrong email address. Used the correct one now.

Ihar

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka > wrote:

Hi all,

I'd like to inform the project that I am resigning from the role due
to lack of spare time for it. I would like Yuras [1] to be the next
coordinator for the translation team.

[1] https://l10n.gnome.org/users/Yuras/


Thanks,
Ihar

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Re: [evolution] gnome-3-22 String freeze break plea

[Claude Paroz]

Le 17. 01. 17 à 19:01, Milan Crha a écrit :

Hello,
I'd like to commit a change for bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776391
also into the gnome-322, but as the Evolution localized also GSettings
keys, then it breaks the string freeze policy. As mentioned, the new
translatable strings are only for the GSettings keys, thus shown only
in the dconf-editor or such tool, where users may not usually want to
go, thus I think it's pretty safe to make the change. The added option
is supposed to be hidden, it's not anywhere in the UI and is only for
the developers, but influences how the Evolution behaves for regular
users, in a not so great way. That's the main reason why I'd like to
commit also to the stable branch.

The added strings are:
 <_summary>Enable special WebKit developer features
 <_description>The change of this option requires restart of the 
Evolution.

I plan to make the final 3.22.5 Evolution release on February 13th.
Thanks and bye,
Milan


1 of 2 i18n approvals.

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Re: Commit messages: titles should be less than 72 characters

[Claude Paroz]

Le 06. 10. 16 à 14:27, Sébastien Wilmet a écrit :

On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 09:47:50PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote:

It's Damned lies indeed. Can you file a bug please?


Ok, bug reported:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=772510


As stated on the report, the fact that the cherry-pick message is 
appended to the first line of the commit is due to an old Git version 
(1.7.9.5) on the server (I'm using the -x flag of git cherry-pick).


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Re: Gtk3 branch in Balsa

[Claude Paroz]

Le 30. 09. 16 à 17:24, Piotr Drąg a écrit :

2016-09-30 12:29 GMT+02:00 Daniel Mustieles García :

Hi all,

We are monitoring the branch "Gtk3" for Balsa in DL, which has not movement
since 2012, and has problems generating doc statistics. It makes sense to
have this branch in DL?

We also have linked this branck to the extra moduleset, instead of "master".
I think we should change this, removing the gtk3 branch and just monitoring
master branch.

What do you think about this?



Hi Daniel,

gtk3 is actually the current development branch for balsa, as
confirmed by the maintainer:

https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2016-September/msg00041.html

Hopefully, the docs problem will be fixed soon.


Note that my answer in the above thread may not have reached Peter, as 
his provider is blocking my email domain.


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Fwd: Re: Error submitting gnome322 subtitles via Damned Lies

[Claude Paroz]

 Message transféré 
Sujet : Re: Error submitting gnome322 subtitles via Damned Lies
Date : Thu, 22 Sep 2016 09:53:12 +0200
De : Andrea Veri <a...@gnome.org>
Pour : Claude Paroz <cla...@2xlibre.net>

Paths added, please confirm it is working as expected.

cheers,

2016-09-22 9:37 GMT+02:00 Claude Paroz <cla...@2xlibre.net>:

Le 22. 09. 16 à 01:12, Rafael Fontenelle a écrit :


Hi there.

When running "Send to repository" action in D-L web interface for
the translation of GNOME 3.22 video's subtitle, I get the following
error message:

[Errno 1] remote: translations user cannot modify
'video-subtitles/gnome322/po/pt_BR.po' To
ssh://git.gnome.org/git/video-subtitles
<http://git.gnome.org/git/video-subtitles> ! [remote rejected] master ->
master (pre-receive hook declined) error: failed to push some refs to
'ssh://git.gnome.org/git/video-subtitles
<http://git.gnome.org/git/video-subtitles>

Is it planned to allow such action?



See
https://git.gnome.org/browse/sysadmin-bin/tree/git/pre-receive-check-translations#n46

Some GNOME Git hero should be able to update the "hooks.po-directories"
variable on the server for this repo. Probably a sysadmin task again?


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Re: Error submitting gnome322 subtitles via Damned Lies

[Claude Paroz]

Le 22. 09. 16 à 01:12, Rafael Fontenelle a écrit :

Hi there.

When running "Send to repository" action in D-L web interface for
the translation of GNOME 3.22 video's subtitle, I get the following
error message:

[Errno 1] remote: translations user cannot modify
'video-subtitles/gnome322/po/pt_BR.po' To
ssh://git.gnome.org/git/video-subtitles
 ! [remote rejected] master ->
master (pre-receive hook declined) error: failed to push some refs to
'ssh://git.gnome.org/git/video-subtitles


Is it planned to allow such action?


See 
https://git.gnome.org/browse/sysadmin-bin/tree/git/pre-receive-check-translations#n46


Some GNOME Git hero should be able to update the "hooks.po-directories" 
variable on the server for this repo. Probably a sysadmin task again?


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Re: Damned Lies don't update

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21. 09. 16 à 14:36, Claude Paroz a écrit :

Le 21. 09. 16 à 11:10, Claude Paroz a écrit :

Apparently, the l10n.gnome.org server is not receiving all commit mail
(which trigger statistics update).

We'll have to contact sysadmins...


Our beloved sysadmin Andrea repaired the messaging issues.
I'll trigger a global update of statistics later, should hopefully be
up-to-date again after that.


All master and gnome-3-22 branches have been updated.
If other branches need an update, just ping me.

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Re: Damned Lies don't update

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21. 09. 16 à 11:10, Claude Paroz a écrit :

Le 21. 09. 16 à 10:45, dooteo a écrit :

Hi all,

Jatorrizko mezua: az., 2016-09-21 10:34 +0200, egilea: Claude Paroz

Le 21. 09. 16 à 09:58, Marek Černocký a écrit :


Hi,

Damned Lies don't update statistics and templates (or at least for
Czech
language).


Could you be a bit more specific, for example telling us a specific
package which has not been updated?



Same for Basque lang:

https://l10n.gnome.org/languages/eu/gnome-3-22/ui/

For example, gsettings-desktop-schemas module's UI should be appear as
%100 translalated.


I just updated that module manually.

But there is indeed an issue.

Apparently, the l10n.gnome.org server is not receiving all commit mail
(which trigger statistics update).

We'll have to contact sysadmins...


Our beloved sysadmin Andrea repaired the messaging issues.
I'll trigger a global update of statistics later, should hopefully be 
up-to-date again after that.


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Re: Damned Lies don't update

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21. 09. 16 à 10:45, dooteo a écrit :

Hi all,

Jatorrizko mezua: az., 2016-09-21 10:34 +0200, egilea: Claude Paroz

Le 21. 09. 16 à 09:58, Marek Černocký a écrit :


Hi,

Damned Lies don't update statistics and templates (or at least for
Czech
language).


Could you be a bit more specific, for example telling us a specific
package which has not been updated?



Same for Basque lang:

https://l10n.gnome.org/languages/eu/gnome-3-22/ui/

For example, gsettings-desktop-schemas module's UI should be appear as
%100 translalated.


I just updated that module manually.

But there is indeed an issue.

Apparently, the l10n.gnome.org server is not receiving all commit mail 
(which trigger statistics update).


We'll have to contact sysadmins...

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Re: Commits by "GNOME Translation Robot" sometimes miss author's email address in Git

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21. 09. 16 à 10:17, Andre Klapper a écrit :

Example:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/polari/commit/?id=4a23fd8045935cc8f03819e2382fb4f763c39a13

Could it parse the value from "Last-Translator"?
Does it require the author to "git config --global user.email" locally?
Should I file a bug in GNOME Bugzilla? Or not?


Hello Andre,

This should have been fixed with commit:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/damned-lies/commit/?id=e5060a7c432ba898abd605b21d4edc088e8cd0b8

If you find an example more recent than April 19, we might revisit the 
fix...


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Re: Damned Lies don't update

[Claude Paroz]

Le 21. 09. 16 à 09:58, Marek Černocký a écrit :

Hi,

Damned Lies don't update statistics and templates (or at least for Czech
language).


Could you be a bit more specific, for example telling us a specific 
package which has not been updated?


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Re: Polari 3.22.1 freeze break request

[Claude Paroz]

Le 19. 09. 16 à 08:56, Alexandre Franke a écrit :

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Rares Visalom  wrote:

Hey guys!


Hi,


We'd like to request a UI/String freeze break for the 3.22.1 release of
Polari in order to merge my GSoC work into master.


Because it wasn't obvious to me at first, I'll make it explicit: the
request is for 3.22.1 which will be released in three weeks. The
feature would not be merged in 3.22 that will be released this week.



String additions:
1. 'Will notify if user appears online.'
2. 'Online'
3. 'Available in another room'
4. 'User is online'
5. 'User %s is now online.'


1/2 from i18n.


2/2 from i18n. Thanks for the detailed request.

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Re: String additions to 'gvfs.master'

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07. 09. 16 à 20:16, Anders Jonsson a écrit :

Den 2016-09-07 kl. 11:43, skrev GNOME Status Pages:

This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
https://l10n.gnome.org.

There have been following string additions to module 'gvfs.master':

+ "@libexecdir@/gvfsd-admin"
+ "Authentication is required to perform file operations"
+ "GVfs"
+ "Perform file operations"
+ "auth_admin_keep"
+ "http://git.gnome.org/browse/gvfs;
+ "no"


One quick question before I get to translating. Here "no" and
"auth_admin_keep" seems to be default values for policykit, so should
these really be left translatable?


This might be a bug in gettext, as the polkit .its contains:

  

while the messages you mention are in the  key.

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Re: Need help with Balsa's doc/Makefile.am

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07. 09. 16 à 20:02, Peter Bloomfield a écrit :

Current development of the Balsa email client takes place in its gtk3
branch, which was only recently included in damned-lies by Piotr Drąg
(to whom many thanks!). The Module Statistics[1] show that the POT file
for the User Guide is unavailable:

Notices
Error regenerating POT file for document balsa-help:

itstool -o /git/balsa/doc/C/balsa-help.pot
C/$(balsa_help_files) C/$(balsa_spell_extra)
Error: cannot open XML file C/$(balsa_help_files)

The doc/Makefile.am defines balsa_help_files and balsa_spell_extra as
space-separated lists of files, and then sets:

HELP_FILES   = $(balsa_help_files) $(balsa_spell_extra)

So apparently $(HELP_FILES) is being used literally, without replacing
$(balsa_help_files) and $(balsa_spell_extra) by their definitions. Is
that not the correct way to concatenate two lists of files? (FWIW, "cd
doc && make pot" makes balsa.pot with no errors.)


Hi Peter,

The problem is that Damned-Lies is running on pure static sources, to 
read configurations and to extract strings.


I tried to make the variable reading code a little bit smarter to be 
able to read included variables. Now it still fails as the code returns 
after finding the first occurrence of the variable in the file (which is 
empty).
It's still a bit hackish, but what about inverting the "if 
BUILD_WITH_SPELL_CHECKER" condition in your file?


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Re: String additions to 'gnome-builder.master'

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07. 09. 16 à 19:55, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :

This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
https://l10n.gnome.org.

There have been following string additions to module 'gnome-builder.master':

+ "Basic"


One more change related to new gettext.

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Re: Missing strings in mutter/gnome-shell .pot files

[Claude Paroz]

Le 06. 09. 16 à 23:23, Piotr Drąg a écrit :

2016-09-06 23:01 GMT+02:00 Claude Paroz <cla...@2xlibre.net>:

gettext has been kindly upgraded on l10n.gnome.org by Andrea.
What xgettext syntax did you use to extract those additional strings (let's
take mutter for example)?



That's great news!

I didn't use any special syntax. All you need is having the
appropriate .its/.loc files installed in the system:
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gettext.git/tree/NEWS#n10

For mutter and gnome-shell that would be these:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-control-center/commit/?id=f7fad92

polkit will have them in the next release, whenever that would be:
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/polkit/commit/?id=c78819245ff8a270f97c9f800773e727918be838


Piotr,

Could you please compare pot files from Damned-Lies with yours and 
report any pecularity?


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Re: String additions to 'mutter.master'

[Claude Paroz]

Le 07. 09. 16 à 11:27, GNOME Status Pages a écrit :

This is an automatic notification from status generation scripts on:
https://l10n.gnome.org.

There have been following string additions to module 'mutter.master':

+ "Activate the window menu"
+ "Close window"
+ "Hide all normal windows"
+ "Hide window"
+ "Lower window below other windows"
+ "Maximize window horizontally"

...

This should mean the new special gettext XML extraction is working now!

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Re: Silesian translation

[Claude Paroz]

Le 31. 08. 16 à 10:44, Grzegorz Kulik a écrit :

Hi,

I was wondering if there would be a possibility of changing the
coordinatorship of the Silesian team. There hasn't been much happening
there for the last four years, so I'd like to take over. I'm the owner
of the Silesian Ubuntu, Firefox and LibreOffice teams. Thank you!


It's surely possible, but it'd be nice to have the opinion of the 
current coordinator, which I'm adding in CC here.


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Re: Arabic Translations

[Claude Paroz]

Le 19. 08. 16 à 17:32, Chris Leonard a écrit :
> Unfoirtunately, you need to be a member of the Arabic Team (and
> logged on as an authenticated user).

There is no unfortunate stuff here :-) Our Web app allows anyone to
create an account and join any team without any other approval.
Just use the "Join a team" link on your profile page.

Of course, you'll still need help later by accredited members of your
team to review and commit your work.

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Re: Team report at GUADEC

[Claude Paroz]

Le 06. 08. 16 à 22:45, Alexandre Franke a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> GUADEC is coming soon and as usual we'll have the team reports there.
> Is anyone volunteering to present? If nobody else wants to do it, I'll
> do it. In any case, let me know of any highligh and interesting
> development you can think of for the past year, so that we can share
> them with the rest of the community!

For anyone taking the task, maybe find a way to write something about
the fact we are eagerly waiting on
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=761992 ? (the server might
also need a system update (still on 12.04)).

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Re: GNOME Git permissions

[Claude Paroz]

Le 03. 08. 16 à 10:46, Yaron Shahrabani a écrit :
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm a former active translator Hebrew translator for the GNOME project,
> the current maintainer Or needs my assistance so I'm thinking about
> getting my access back, can you guys please help?
> 
> Kind regards,
> YaronShahrabani
> 
> 

Hello Yaron,

For most translation work in GNOME nowadays, a Git account is not mandatory.
If you really need one for some reasons, the instructions are on the Wiki.
https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/RequestingAnAccount

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Re: [chrome-gnome-shell] Using pt_PT code for Portuguese (Portugal) instead of pt

[Claude Paroz]

Le 03. 08. 16 à 22:40, Yuri Konotopov a écrit :
> 03.08.2016 15:45, Rafael Fontenelle:
>> I've never heard of pt_PT being a problem. Btw, glibc supported list
>> includes "pt_PT"...
>>
> In Damned Lies Portuguese Translation Team uses "pt" code, not "pt_PT":
> https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt_PT/
> https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt/
> 
> That's why I think that D-L statistics and workflow (for
> chrome-gnome-shell) of Portuguese Translation Team will be broken if I
> rename "pt.po" to "pt_PT.po".

Yes, in GNOME (and in most other translation projects, we always
privilege the two-letter code when possible. With the fallback mecanism
of much i18n infrastructures, when a longer language code is not found,
it should use the shorter one (pt_PT -> pt). Hopefully this works also
for Chrome.

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Re: Gujarati translations

[Claude Paroz]

Le 02. 08. 16 à 22:41, વિશાલ ભલાણી a écrit :
> Hi Rafael,
> 
> Please commit the following files for Gujarati Translation.
> 
> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/595/547/1
> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/42/36/1
...

Hi Vishal,

I set you up as the new Gujarati coordinator. Congrats!

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Re: Dead croatian language team

[Claude Paroz]

The coordinator change was applied.
https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/hr/

Thanks Robert for your involvment in the past and for confirming the change.
Congrats to gogo for this new responsability. We are looking forward to
see Croatian as a supported language in GNOME!

Claude

Le 20. 07. 16 à 14:31, Robert Sedak a écrit :
> Hello Gogo and Claude,
> 
> Yes Gogo, please take a leadership of Croatian team. I wish you all the
> best.
> 
> Unfortunately, I do not have a time for this project anymore.
> 
> With regards,
> Robert Sedak
> 
> 
> On 20.7.2016 13:51, gogo gogić wrote:
>> I have read the responsibilities
>> <https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/TeamCoordinatorResponsibilities>
>> and I'm ready to take lead of the team.
>>
>> 2016-07-15 9:19 GMT+02:00 Claude Paroz <cla...@2xlibre.net
>> <mailto:cla...@2xlibre.net>>:
>>
>> Le 13. 07. 16 à 18:43, gogo gogić a écrit :
>> > I'm ubuntu/Mint croatian translator
>> > <https://launchpad.net/~trebelnik-stefina
>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Etrebelnik-stefina>> and i translated
>> many gnome
>> > apps/packages in ubuntu launchpad and i saw that these translation of
>> > packages are not available here, then i try contact team coordinator
>> > <https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/hr/> before 1 month to import these
>> > translations in gnome but he didn't respond to me.
>> >
>> > These e-mail adreses of coordinator
>> > robert dot sedak at sk dot htnet dot hr
>> >
>> 
>> <mailto:robert%C2%A0dot%C2%A0sedak%C2%A0at%C2%A0sk%C2%A0dot%C2%A0htnet%C2%A0dot%C2%A0hr
>> 
>> <mailto:robert%25C2%25A0dot%25C2%25A0sedak%25C2%25A0at%25C2%25A0sk%25C2%25A0dot%25C2%25A0htnet%25C2%25A0dot%25C2%25A0hr>>
>> >
>> > is obsolete I think that don't exist anymore htnet.hr
>> <http://htnet.hr> <http://htnet.hr>
>> > is no longer used, as i know.
>>
>> Hi gogo,
>>
>> Indeed, the team seems stalled. If you intend to take the
>> coordinatorship of that team, please read the instructions [1] and
>> formally request that task on this list.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/TeamCoordinatorResponsibilities
>>
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Re: Dead croatian language team

[Claude Paroz]

Le 13. 07. 16 à 18:43, gogo gogić a écrit :
> I'm ubuntu/Mint croatian translator
>  and i translated many gnome
> apps/packages in ubuntu launchpad and i saw that these translation of
> packages are not available here, then i try contact team coordinator
>  before 1 month to import these
> translations in gnome but he didn't respond to me.
> 
> These e-mail adreses of coordinator
> robert dot sedak at sk dot htnet dot hr
> 
> 
> is obsolete I think that don't exist anymore htnet.hr 
> is no longer used, as i know.

Hi gogo,

Indeed, the team seems stalled. If you intend to take the
coordinatorship of that team, please read the instructions [1] and
formally request that task on this list.

[1]
https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/TeamCoordinatorResponsibilities

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Re: Gujarati Translation Commit

[Claude Paroz]

Le 28. 06. 16 à 09:18, વિશાલ ભલાણી a écrit :
> 
> Hello Claude Paroz,
> 
> Thanks a lot for your response.
> This was translated by Sweta Kothari long back in 2014 but it seems not
> committed in repo.
> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-dictionary/master/po/gu
> 
> This was translated by Vaishali in 2014, which I merged and updated.
> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gnome-photos/master/po/gu
> 
> Here are my translation file links
> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/caribou/master/po/gu
> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/cheese/master/po/gu
> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/gedit/master/po/gu
> https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/damned-lies/master/po/gu
> 
>   Please commit all the above links.

I've committed the above files.

Blessings,

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Re: New team for Akan (aka)

[Claude Paroz]

Le 28. 06. 16 à 19:08, aberba lawrence a écrit :
> Please add this team for us to start translation ASAP. Reply me if I
> missed anything.
> 
> By name: Lawrence Aberba
> 
> UTF8 name: Akan
> Enlish Name: Akan
> ISO 639 code: aka

For the records, https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/ak/

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Re: Akan Translation

[Claude Paroz]

Hi Lawrence,

Le 27. 06. 16 à 23:07, Lawrence Aberba a écrit :
> I want to start translating gnome but the process is too complicated and
> tedious unlike how i find launchpad for Ubuntu and stuff.

The process is a bit more complicated as you have to learn how to
translate a po file. However, you can use dedicated software for that
and it's not so difficult to grasp. And we are there to help :-)

> > First I have to file a bug but no category for translation is indicated.
> I just want to fine apps and translate into Akan language with ISO code
> "aka" and English name "Akan".

As a first step, could you pick a (possibly small) package on
https://l10n.gnome.org/languages/C/gnome-3-22/ui/, download the po file
for the package and send the translated file back to me?

I'll then do the necessary steps to setup a team page for Akan.

Happy translating!

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Re: Deadlock of Gujarati Translation

[Claude Paroz]

Le 23. 06. 16 à 19:48, વિશાલ ભલાણી a écrit :
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I am looking for help regarding Gujarati Translation. I have tried my
> best to reach Sweta Kothari existing co-coordinator of the same. But I
> am not able to contact her. And it seems she is not active from past 2
> years. I have already submitted couple of translation files and also
> working on some. Please let me know how and who can push my translation
> changes to repo.

Just send a mail here with the list of files you'd like to see
committed. For example:

https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/cheese/master/po/gu
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Re: Co-ordinator of team not responding (gujarati)

[Claude Paroz]

Le 18. 06. 16 à 09:31, Claude Paroz a écrit :
> Le 16. 06. 16 à 11:59, વિશાલ ભલાણી a écrit :
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> I am completely new to gnome development community and thought to start
>> my contribution with language. Hence I joined Gujarati i18n team. I have
>> try to reach to co-ordinator of the team but I was not able to get any
>> response. It seems that she is not more working on or taking care of
>> this translation and no more active. If she is not active than who will
>> review my translation and how can I proceed.
> 
> Hi Vishal,
> 
> See last parapgraph of
> https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/StartingATeam
> I CC'ed the current coordinator to this answer.

... and found out that the address swkot...@redhat.com is no longer
valid. Neither is the team Web page (http://www.utkarsh.org/) which I
just removed from the team information.

Please read
https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/TeamCoordinatorResponsibilities
if you'd like to take coordinatorship of the team.

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Re: Co-ordinator of team not responding

[Claude Paroz]

Le 16. 06. 16 à 11:59, વિશાલ ભલાણી a écrit :
> 
> Hello
> 
> I am completely new to gnome development community and thought to start
> my contribution with language. Hence I joined Gujarati i18n team. I have
> try to reach to co-ordinator of the team but I was not able to get any
> response. It seems that she is not more working on or taking care of
> this translation and no more active. If she is not active than who will
> review my translation and how can I proceed.

Hi Vishal,

See last parapgraph of
https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject/StartingATeam
I CC'ed the current coordinator to this answer.

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Re: Strange string in Damned Lies translation

[Claude Paroz]

Le 25. 05. 16 13:24, Tom Tryfonidis a écrit :


does it really need to be translatable?


Claude no, it's ok to mark the string as non-translatable.


Thanks for confirmation. It's removed now.

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Re: Strange string in Damned Lies translation

[Claude Paroz]

Le 25. 05. 16 12:00, Mario Blättermann a écrit :

Hi all,

while translating the po file for the Damned Lies website, I found this
string:

#: templates/vertimus/vertimus_detail.html:179
#: templates/vertimus/vertimus_detail.html:185
msgid "Y_g_i_s"
msgstr ""

What's the meaning of this and where can I found it in Damned Lies?


Redirecting the question to Tom: it seems this string (date format) is 
used as some internal link, does it really need to be translatable?


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Re: D-L and git are out of sync for epiphany

[Claude Paroz]

Le 20. 05. 16 16:56, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov a écrit :

Hi,

Today I tried several times to submit
an updated Kazakh translation for epiphany master branch.
However, I couldn't complete it via DL - it just stays waiting
for an answer after pressing Submit to repository.

Then I pushed my file directly to git, but web interface
is not updated with that change. In past it was updated
almost immediately.

Could someone please check? Thanks

https://l10n.gnome.org/vertimus/epiphany/master/po/kk


Should be fixed now. I had to force some processes to shutdown the other 
day and one lock file was not properly removed.


Thanks for noticing.

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Responsiveness of l10n.gnome.org

[Claude Paroz]

Hi all,

I just pushed the work of Tom Tryfonidis on l10n.gnome.org. Tom made the 
site responsive, so it should be much nicer to use with small devices.


Thanks Tom!

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Re: Getting chrome-gnome-shell to Damned Lies

[Claude Paroz]

Le 05. 05. 16 22:07, Yuri Konotopov a écrit :

05.05.2016 22:35, Claude Paroz пишет:

Seems so:
https://l10n.gnome.org/module/chrome-gnome-shell/


Should I create untranslated po files for all supported languages?


Not at all. Translators will do when they will translate for their language.



Is the official bug report system on Github? Or are you using the
GNOME bugzilla?

I did not requested new bugzilla product yet, so using only Github for now.


OK, thanks.

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Re: Getting chrome-gnome-shell to Damned Lies

[Claude Paroz]

Le 05. 05. 16 18:43, Yuri Konotopov a écrit :

Hi,

I just finished (I hope) bridge between Chrome i18n and gettext
translation formats as Rafael Fontenelle suggested at
https://github.com/nE0sIghT/chrome-gnome-shell-mirror/issues/5.
With latest master changes all translations are available in PO format
and Chrome specific files are auto generated by build system.

PO files are located in po/ directory:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/chrome-gnome-shell/tree/po
PO template is in template.pot file:
https://git.gnome.org/browse/chrome-gnome-shell/tree/po/template.pot
And all supported by Chrome languages are listed in
https://git.gnome.org/browse/chrome-gnome-shell/tree/po/LINGUAS

Is this enough to add chrome-gnome-shell to D-L?


Seems so:
https://l10n.gnome.org/module/chrome-gnome-shell/

Is the official bug report system on Github? Or are you using the GNOME 
bugzilla?


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Re: Broken commit

[Claude Paroz]

Le 18. 04. 16 18:41, Joaquim Rocha a écrit :

Hey folks,

I was rebasing GNOME Software and it fails due to a commit without an
author's email, made by the translations robot:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-software/commit/?id=27ac59262c79ae58a2d60061522d3c7c1c2899bf

I couldn't find a way in git to bypass the error so I ask you to please
check if there's something in the committer robot that needs to be fixed
before more repos get eventually affected.


I just pushed an update to Damned Lies so as a person without email 
address cannot be specified as a commit author.


https://git.gnome.org/browse/damned-lies/commit/?id=e5060a7c432ba898

Of course, this could also be double-checked at the Git hook level, but 
I'm less knowledgeable at this level.


Sorry for that issue.

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Re: gnome-photos: Tweaking the list of crop presets (GNOME #762942)

[Claude Paroz]

Le 03. 03. 16 16:48, Debarshi Ray a écrit :

Hey,

I would like to land this patch that tweaks the list of crop presets:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762942

It removes the actual aspect ratio string (ie. "%.2f") from the UI,
and changes the list of human readable names (see the screenshots).

I am sorry about the late change but we went back and forth on the list
multiple times in #gnome-design, and it took us a while to settle on
something.

Editing is a new feature this cycle, so I don't think it affects any
documentation.

Thanks,
Rishi


i18n approval 1 of 2.

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Re: New team for Lingala (ln)

[Claude Paroz]

Nice, the team page is now up and running:

https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/ln/

Happy translating!

Claude

Le 03. 03. 16 14:58, Chris Leonard a écrit :

The Lingala locale for glibc is prepared and submitted.  The glibc
project is doing a major review of existing locales, so new locale
commits are going slowly, but I promise I will keep on it and it will
get submitted for the next release.

cjl

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Claude Paroz <cla...@2xlibre.net> wrote:

Le 03. 03. 16 09:19, René Manassé GALEKWA a écrit :


Hi,
i will start  new team,

My name is : René Manassé GALEKWA
e-mail: renemana...@gmail.com
bugzilla account: renemana...@gmail.com
English and native (UTF-8-coded) name of the language : ln
our mailing list: ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com
portal : http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-cd/



Wow, nice!

René, can you send me (in private) one translated po file in Linguala so as
I can initiate statistics on l10n.gnome.org?

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Re: New team for Lingala (ln)

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Le 03. 03. 16 09:19, René Manassé GALEKWA a écrit :

Hi,
i will start  new team,

My name is : René Manassé GALEKWA
e-mail: renemana...@gmail.com
bugzilla account: renemana...@gmail.com
English and native (UTF-8-coded) name of the language : ln
our mailing list: ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com
portal : http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-cd/


Wow, nice!

René, can you send me (in private) one translated po file in Linguala so 
as I can initiate statistics on l10n.gnome.org?


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Re: String freeze break for Documents

[Claude Paroz]

Le 01. 03. 16 08:38, Alexandre Franke a écrit :

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:16 AM, Alessandro Bono  wrote:

Hi!


Hi,


I would like to commit the attached patch in this bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762834
to make the translation process less error-prone.

Is this OK for everyone?


You haven't released a 3.19.91 tarball yet, so I guess technically
you're not string frozen yet, but I don't know how the release team
handle this case so I'll let them weigh in here.

If string freeze applies already, here's i18n approval 1/2 since I'm
the one who reported the issue and I think this is really important.


Please, go ahead!

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Re: Error commiting Programming guidelines from DL

[Claude Paroz]

Le 26. 02. 16 09:27, Daniel Mustieles García a écrit :

Hi Claude,

When I try to commit a new translation of Programming Guidelines from
DL, i get the following error:

«[Errno 1] remote: translations user cannot modify
'programming-guidelines/es/es.po' To
ssh://git.gnome.org/git/gnome-devel-docs
 ! [remote rejected] master
-> master (pre-receive hook declined) error: failed to push some refs to
'ssh://git.gnome.org/git/gnome-devel-docs
' »

How could I fix it, to enable commit for this module?


Hi Daniel,

Each repo whose po directories don't match the default locations have to 
be configured with git config keys (hooks.po-directories, 
hooks.help-directories). This is then checked by this script [1].


So you have to find someone who can update those variables. Or commit 
"manually", of course.


[1] 
https://git.gnome.org/browse/sysadmin-bin/tree/git/pre-receive-check-translations


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Re: Copying weird email address from D-L

[Claude Paroz]

Le 18. 02. 16 07:08, Rafael Fontenelle a écrit :

I oftenly send emails to members of my language team in D-L. I can copy
this email from his account page. The email is displayed with "at" and
"dot" notation, but the mailto URL also shows like that (with a lot of
HTML spaces "%20").

Is it intentional to not make it copyable, or file a bug report?


Yes, this is intentional and a (light?) way of preventing robots from 
crawling email addresses.


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Re: Ammend after "Send to repository" in D-L ?

[Claude Paroz]

Le 12. 02. 16 18:57, Rafael Fontenelle a écrit :

Hi there!

When applying action "Send to repository" after proofread on D-L , I
oftenly forgets to select correct author (not the reviewer, but the
translator). I'm looking for a way to ammed this commit, in order to log
the correct author. Is it possible?

P.s.: I have a git account.


Hello Rafael,

Unfortunately not, once a commit has been pushed to a public repository, 
you cannot amend it any longer. It is technically possible, but that 
would mean rewriting repo history, which would then corrupt all existing 
checkouts in the wild. I'm quite sure that the GNOME git repository is 
preventing that.


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New features of gettext

[Claude Paroz]

Hello,

Thanks to a bug comment from Alberts Muktupāvels [1], we've discovered 
that glib and gtk+ are taking advantage of a new gettext feature.


That's all nice and we'll try to follow with Damned-Lies.
May I just suggest that for such i18n-related changes, we may receive 
notifications on this list, so as we can adjust our tools and processes 
when needed?


[1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=755466#c16

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Re: Resigning from Ido Team

[Claude Paroz]

Le 30. 01. 16 05:49, Michael Terry a écrit :

Hello!  Many many years ago, I started the GNOME Ido (io) translation team.

I made a tiny start, but never really did much work.  And no one else
has joined in those years either.

I'd sorta forgotten I was still the nominal head of the team.

So I'd like to resign from it / disband it.  That way there's less red
tape for the next interested person.

Thanks!
-mt


Hello Michael,

Thanks for trying to push forward the Ido language in GNOME.

I've now removed your name from the coordinatorship of that language.

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Re: Vertimus access please

[Claude Paroz]

Le 08. 12. 15 21:13, Reinout van Schouwen a écrit :

Hi,

At some point the possibility to authenticate with OpenID disappeared
and I found myself having to re-register for Damned Lies. (I'm now
reinout_s.)
Can someone with greater powers than me restore my permissions to mark a
translation as committed etc.?


Hi Reinout,

You should now be able to login with your previous username reinouts.

Sorry for the loss of OpenID login. If anyone need to reconcile accounts 
on DL, just talk...


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Re: Vertimus access please

[Claude Paroz]

Le 10. 12. 15 19:56, Mingye Wang (Arthur2e5) a écrit :

+1. User data loss is indeed a problem, and it seems especially awful
when it happens to privileged users.


If the old account still exists, no data loss should happen, just ask 
and we'll do our best to fix things.



One time when hanging out on #kde-cn@freenode, I found `nihui' who was a
GNOME zh_CN reviewer a couple of years ago. He then decided to log back
in and see what's happening with GNOME l10n, only to find out that his
account disappeared.


Yes, old accounts are periodically cleaned, see 
https://git.gnome.org/browse/damned-lies/tree/people/models.py#n71


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Re: GIMP master branches on l10n.gnome.org?

[Claude Paroz]

Le lundi 18 mai 2015 à 13:04 +0200, Michael Natterer a écrit :
 On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 20:34 +0200, Jordi Mas wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   currently on l10n.gnome.org if you want an overview of how much
   translations you have made on GIMP you can only see the stable (2.8
   right now) version of it, but not the master branches.
  
   Would it be ok to also add the master branches to it, so you don't have
   to go through all GIMP translation units to see how much are you missing
   for the next release?
(...)
 Hi all,
 
 by all means go ahead and add the GIMP master stats. That policy to
 not have master stats is from a time when we were redoing the entire
 UI, and things changed massively. These days, most strings don't change
 (of course we make no guarantee about strings in master, but most of
 them are unchanged for years).
 
 Just treat GIMP as all other projects, no special handling needed any
 longer, except our 5 translation domains ;)

I just updated the release set. Here's what it looks like in Catalan:
https://l10n.gnome.org/languages/ca/gnome-gimp/ui/

Hope it helps.

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Re: String additions to 'gnome-tweak-tool.gnome-3-16'

[Claude Paroz]

Le jeudi 16 avril 2015 à 19:39 +0200, Alexandre Franke a écrit :
 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Rui Tiago Cação Matos
 tiagoma...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yes, I reverted that patch in the branch, did a 3.16.1 release and
  pushed the patch again. The translations that were already there
  continue to work fine and hopefully we'll have even more for 3.16.2.
 
 Ok, that's better and thank you for doing it, but it's still not perfect. :-)
 
 Technically you're still supposed to ask for a freeze exception. Let's
 say you just did, here's my +1. You still need another one. (But no
 need to revert the commit in the meantime)

Second approval, matter closed!

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Updated l10n.gnome.org

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Hi,

Sorry for the recent errors on l10n.gnome.org, we were working on
updating some server configurations.

One of the temporary consequences is that OpenID login is currently not
available. I'll work on a replacement ASAP.

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Re: Updated l10n.gnome.org

[Claude Paroz]

Le vendredi 17 avril 2015 à 20:33 +0200, Claude Paroz a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 Sorry for the recent errors on l10n.gnome.org, we were working on
 updating some server configurations.
 
 One of the temporary consequences is that OpenID login is currently not
 available. I'll work on a replacement ASAP.

And currently uploads are not working :-( I'm waiting for sysadmins
availability, thanks for your patience!

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Re: 3.16 release notes available to translate

[Claude Paroz]

Le lundi 23 mars 2015 à 12:14 +0100, Marek Černocký a écrit :
 The 3.16 statistics have the same values (28859 changes, 871
 contributors) as 3.14. I suppose this should be updated.
 
 Regards
 Marek Černocký

And so should the i18n statistics be updated.
Bosniac is new in supported languages (congratulations!).
Unfortunately, we have to remove 12 languages from supported status:
Arabic, Asturian, Belarusian, Estonian, Gujarati, Kannada, Macedonian,
Malayalam, Marathi, Oriya, Romannian, and Thai.

Suggested patch attached.

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diff --git a/help/C/i18n.page b/help/C/i18n.page
index 32a467f..350cf95 100644
--- a/help/C/i18n.page
+++ b/help/C/i18n.page
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 	!DOCTYPE page [
-!ENTITY supportedlanguages 40
+!ENTITY supportedlanguages 45
 !ENTITY percentagetranslated 80
 	]
 page xmlns=http://projectmallard.org/1.0/;
@@ -26,11 +26,12 @@
   pThanks to members of the worldwide link href=https://wiki.gnome.org/TranslationProject;GNOME Translation Project/link, GNOME 3.16 offers support for more than supportedlanguages; languages with at least percentagetranslated; percent of strings translated. User documentation is also available in many languages./p
 
   list style=compact
-   itempArabic/p/item
+   !--itempArabic/p/item--
itempAssamese/p/item
-   itempAsturian/p/item 
+   !--itempAsturian/p/item--
itempBasque/p/item
-   itempBelarusian/p/item 
+   !--itempBelarusian/p/item--
+   itempBosniac/p/item
itempBrazilian Portuguese/p/item
itempBritish English/p/item
itempBulgarian/p/item
@@ -42,32 +43,32 @@
itempCzech/p/item
itempDanish/p/item
itempDutch/p/item
-   itempEstonian/p/item 
+   !--itempEstonian/p/item--
itempFinnish/p/item
itempFrench/p/item
itempGalician/p/item
itempGerman/p/item
itempGreek/p/item
-   itempGujarati/p/item 
+   !--itempGujarati/p/item--
itempHebrew/p/item
itempHindi/p/item
itempHungarian/p/item
itempIndonesian/p/item
itempItalian/p/item
itempJapanese/p/item
-   itempKannada/p/item 
+   !--itempKannada/p/item--
itempKorean/p/item
itempLatvian/p/item
itempLithuanian/p/item
-   itempMacedonian/p/item 
-   itempMalayalam/p/item 
-   itempMarathi/p/item 
+   !--itempMacedonian/p/item--
+   !--itempMalayalam/p/item--
+   !--itempMarathi/p/item--
itempNorwegian Bokmål/p/item
-   itempOriya/p/item 
+   !--itempOriya/p/item--
itempPolish/p/item
itempPortuguese/p/item
itempPunjabi/p/item
-   itempRomanian/p/item 
+   !--itempRomanian/p/item--
itempRussian/p/item
itempSerbian/p/item
itempSerbian Latin/p/item
@@ -77,7 +78,7 @@
itempSwedish/p/item
itempTamil/p/item
itempTelugu/p/item
-   itempThai/p/item 
+   !--itempThai/p/item--
itempTurkish/p/item 
itempUighur/p/item
itempUkrainian/p/item
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Re: 3.16 release notes available to translate

[Claude Paroz]

Le lundi 23 mars 2015 à 15:12 +, Allan Day a écrit :
 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Claude Paroz cla...@2xlibre.net wrote:
  Le lundi 23 mars 2015 à 12:14 +0100, Marek Černocký a écrit :
  The 3.16 statistics have the same values (28859 changes, 871
  contributors) as 3.14. I suppose this should be updated.
 
  Regards
  Marek Černocký
 
  And so should the i18n statistics be updated.
  Bosniac is new in supported languages (congratulations!).
  Unfortunately, we have to remove 12 languages from supported status:
  Arabic, Asturian, Belarusian, Estonian, Gujarati, Kannada, Macedonian,
  Malayalam, Marathi, Oriya, Romannian, and Thai.
 
 We usually change the statistics at the last minute - which is why a
 variable is used in the markup for this.
 
 We do the same for supported languages, by commenting out unsupported
 languages.

It was a clever idea. Unfortunately, the variables are expanded *before*
producing the POT file, so the intent of easing translation is defeated.

  The addition of Bosniac is an issue for this - I can add it
 now, if there are no objections.

Sure.

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Re: Leaving Gujarati Translation Team

[Claude Paroz]

Le samedi 14 mars 2015 à 16:06 +0530, Ankit Patel a écrit :
 Hello Everyone,
 
 I have done some Gujarati translations from quite a long time and then
 have been not so active from the past couple of years. Though it doesn't
 make much difference, as Gujarati translation has been continuously
 updated by Sweta Kothari. Since it's not feasible for me to stay active
 because of the time crunch I am facing, I thought of letting this group
 know about it. One can unlist my name from the Gujarati team as a
 co-ordinator here: https://l10n.gnome.org/teams/gu/

Thanks for your awesome work during these years.
Should we infer from your message that Sweta Kothari is the new
coordinator?

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