[Goanet] ‘No outsider entered Sanvordem’
http://oheraldo.in/node/10828 'No outsider entered Sanvordem' BY HERALD REPORTER MARGAO, MARCH 9 — District Magistrate, South J B Singh today asserted that no person either from Bhatkal or Hubli had entered Sanvordem-Curchorem on Friday last, but confirmed that members of the minority community from Panjim, Margao, Sanguem and other parts of Goa were part of the 800-odd crowd that assembled near the local mosque that day to protest against the prayer house demolition. Incidentally, even as the five-member BJP fact-finding team led by MLA Francis D'Souza questioned why the administration did not deploy armed security to guard Muslim houses in Curchorem, Singh replied the police were busy in containing a violent mob at the police station. The five-member BJP teams comprised of MLAs, Francis D'Souza, Laxman Parsekar, former Speaker Vishwas Sattarkar, Ramrao Dessai and Damu Naik. The team later proceeded to Sanvordem-Curchorem. The Magistrate admitted that the adminstration was not fully prepared to deal the situation arising out of the counter protests in Sanvordem on day one. There was no information that the counter protests and morcha will lead to a violent situation, he maintained. On the allegation that armed people from Bhatkal were holed up in the Masjid, the Magistrate told the BJP team that the administration was willing to conduct a search of the persons assembled at the Masjid for swords, but the locals rejected the proposal. Singh offered not to comment when the BJP team asked whether he agreed to the views of the Chief Minister, Pratapsing Rane that the attack on the minority community was pre-planned. The BJP team harped on one single point as to why the handful of houses belonging to the local Muslims were not guarded with additional security. In his reply, the Magistate was categorical in saying that it was not at all possible to deal with a mob at the police station and also deploy security to protect houses of the minority community. The Magistrate and the team also had different opinion on the release of the arrested people for violating Section 144. CURCHOREM: The 'fact-finding' team also went to Guddamol and visited the controversial prayer house, besides interacting with Hindus and Muslims there. At Curchorem, they met shopkeepers and discussed the situation with the President of the Curchorem Merchants Association Pandurang Dessai. They also met the affected Muslim families and were apprised of their mental and physical anguish during the past one week. Later speaking to reporters, MLA Francis D'Souza said there was no truth in allegations by the Congress, that MLAs Ramrao Dessai and Vinay Tendulkar had committed offences by addressing agitators when Section 144 was in force. In fact, the people were all the more agitated when Chief Minister Pratapsing Rane visited Curchorem and went away without interacting with the people, Mr D'Souza added. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Comment: MLA Francis D'Souza is attempting to take the high moral ground here - his reputation and standing has been tarnished with his previous conduct - the attack on the Mapusa Hotel. The only people who would have been agitated would be those people that MLA Francis met i.e. the hoologans!
[Goanet] Sewage system a major worry for Panjimites
http://oheraldo.in/node/10823 Sewage system a major worry for Panjimites BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, MARCH 9 – The sewerage system is a major issue dogging Panjim and both the main panels - of Babush Monserrate and Manohar Parrikar-Somnath Zuwarkar - contesting the March 12 Municipal Corporation elections have assured Panjimites that the city would be entirely covered with underground sewerage lines. Currently Panjim has two sewerage treatment plants (STPs) – one at Patto and the other at St Inez Tonca. Though normally the life-span of a STP is 30 years, the Patto STP is less than ten years old. It was constructed by the Economic Development Corporation but the tendering and construction of the project was allegedly embroiled in a scam. Later, the matter was investigated by the CBI and recently two senior engineers had been brought into the CBI ring. The small STP is yet to cater to the entire Patto area. Government quarters at Patto and some other buildings have not been connected to the STP. Sources however said that this will be done soon as the work has already been tendered. The new 12.5 MLD C-tech (cyclic technology) based STP constructed with foreign technology, takes care of around 75 % of the city. This was commissioned less than two years ago. Some areas are yet to be covered. Officials however say that this has not been done so far because of technical difficulties like laying of pipelines through steep slopes. To cover the Taleigao and Dona Paula areas, the Government has plans to put up a new STP in the near future. Currently, a major problem on the sewerage front is overflowing of septic tanks from residential-cum-commercial complexes in the city. The PHE section at Tonca strictly conducts checks and reports are regularly sent to the Corporation of the City of Panaji (CCP) for action. It is the overflow or leakage from private pipelines that led to an outbreak of jaundice in 2003 after sewage entered into a cracked water pipelines. Officials say the main sewage lines are more than one metre below the ground level and there is hardly any possibility of sewage entering into water pipeline. Contamination generally occurs from private lines. In fact, sewage is a major factor for the contamination of city wells. The government however is working on a Japanese Development Bank-aided sanitation programme that is expected to improve the situation in Panjim within a year or two. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] well earned reputation for abuse
Folks, I dont know about you, but I am getting tired of this back and forth. I suggest goanet takes a poll to test out Mario's hypothesis below that he is more credible, honest, less abusive and generally speaking, more intelligent than Santosh. Let this poll end this endless bickering. MarloClean1=120s 5L NF3+Ar, Clean 2 =280s3.5L NF3 Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh Helekar has a well earned reputation of truncating people's comments in order to change their meaning. I think that qualifies as being dishonest. Then he repeats his falsehoods and insinuations endlessly, and complains about the responses being repetitive. Anyone who disagrees with his is accused of being abusive, whereas he has set the record of abusive comments, and a good example is shown below. - End forwarded message -
[Goanet] Re: Now a new twist to the tale.
If at all any structure that needs to be effectively demolished, it is the Directorate of Panchayats along with its Director, the Deputy Director and the concerned Minister. I have my own very good reasons for saying what I am saying. ANYONE WHO HAS ASKED FOR A STAY ON DEMOLITION OF ILLEGAL STRUCTURE HAS NEVER BEEN DENIED. IT IS '' ASK AND YOU 'MUST' RECEIVE with the word 'shall' cremated for good. The Panchayat Raj Act is a tom-foolery of its worst kind. Under the Indian Administration, no law, rule or regulation exits without gaping loop-holes. Every law is designed for the ultimate benefit of the criminal rather than for the benefit of the victim. The Panchayat Raj Act needs very serious amendments by way of stipulating severe penalties for the Director and the Deputy Director for granting stays left-right and centre to anyone who applies for it. As it stands, it is designed to feed the lawyers who are not very successful in Civil and Criminal matters. It fails to satisfy my mind as to why an ordinary villager who has never gone to court or a lawyer should do the same for simple matters which during the ertwhile Portuguse regime the village REGEDOR would solve. In 99 cases out of hundred, when the Sarpanches of the Village Panchayats move to demolish blatant illegal structures (the ones erected in someone else's properties, stays are given forthwith by the impotent Director demolishing the stand and the morale of the Sarpanch and the Panchayat who is trying to enforce the law. Presently, as the Panchayat Raj Act stands the Director of Panchayat is a puppet on a string whose only job is to execute everything told to him over the phone by ministers and the Chief Minister and to frolic from his office to the respective minister's cabin or the house like an errand-boy. I want any Director or Panchayats, present or otherwise to challenge my statement and I will run him down into the ground. The Deputy Director of Panchayats is indeed the Director of Panchayat's valet and nothing else. The present Minister for Panchayats Mr. Subash Shirodkar is not fit to clean the Panchayat toilets. He exists only because he has of late developed a good pair of tonsils and built a strong Midas' room to fill up what was absolutely empty. The present duo i.e Director of Panchayat and his Deputy in Mr. Menio D'Souza and Mr. C.D. Gaude will hopefully be different from 'Yes Sir' category. Floriano Lobo goasuraj Ph. 2470223 9422060347
[Goanet] 7 foreigners deported, 2 ‘missing ’: DGP
http://oheraldo.in/node/10813 7 foreigners deported, 2 'missing': DGP BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, MARCH 9 – Director General of Police, Neeraj Kumar on Thursday said the Goa police have got deportation orders for 13 foreign nationals, out of which seven have already been deported, four others have challenged deportation orders and two others (Russians) are missing. Speaking to reporters, Kumar said it was confirmed that the two Russians were running a place called 'Palace' near the Anjuna Petrol Pump. After we found the place to be dubious, it was raided. It was a watering hole for rave parties and doing high-end drugs with a premium client base, he added. Kumar said the police are on the trail of the two missing Russians. He observed that the trend of foreigners entering Goa had undergone a sea change. Initially, the hippies came to Goa's pristine beaches, then came the UK nationals and then the Israelis. As of today, the Russians are trying to take control from the Israelis because of business interests. The DGP claimed that this season the police to a large extent succeeded in keeping in check rave parties. Whenever there are complaints we have gone to the spot and stopped the parties. Meanwhile, the hearing on the petition challenging deportation order served on German national Ingo Grill of Saturday night bazaar fame and his wife was adjourned in the Fast Track Court here. When the matter came up for hearing, the government pleader sought for time to file an affidavit in-reply. The matter will come up for hearing on March 28. They were asked to leave the country for undesirable activities by an order issued on February 1 under section 3 (2) (c) of Foreigner's Act, 1946. The order asking them to leave India by February 18 has been challenged in the court. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Re: no ammunition
Not quite. As they say in the Navy, ever since Nelsons days--Always keep your powder dry. Its just that when I see a particularly distasteful post, I prefer to sit silently at the benaulim beach, watch the setting sun, sip my sundowner, and thank the lord above that I am in my beautiful homeland. You are welcome to have the last word! regards, Gilbert Menezes. Message: 10 Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:59:46 +1100 (EST) From: Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 255 To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ran out of ammo, Mr. Menezes? We are still awaiting your inside knowledge on Dabolim - how it was acquired by the Navy. Gabriel de Figueiredo.
[Goanet] ..about Bird Flu
What is Bird Flu ??? Ok, for most of us it means 'Chicken' i.e. Kombe Mas Chicken Tandoori? Chicken Biryani or xacuti etc ?? No Way!! Not atleast for next few months. Any Solution ? Yes, cull all Chickens. just bag them or burn or bury live (as seen on TV). Goa affected by Bird Flu ? Not yet but some parts of its neigbouring/border state 'Maharastra' affeceted. What about the other birds including the migratory ?? Other birds too can have/spread the virus H5N1 How do we cull or destroy them ? No solution yet So, no risk in Goa as there are no migratory birds.. Who says ?? Goa get both national and internation tourists, I mean, winged visitors. In today's GT (GOA), a picture of Siberian Crane appeared looking for food in the paddy fields near Gausa-vaddo in Siolim. Flocks of varied migratory birds make Siolim their home from December to March end. In the mean time, Serbia has confirmed its first case of the deadly H5N1 of bird Flu in a swan. Saiba Boghoshhh, [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for Goa Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Strange quote
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[Goanet] Mapusa river contaminated
http://oheraldo.in/node/10814 Mapusa river contaminated HERALD CORRESPONDENT MAPUSA, MARCH 9 - The Tar river in the city was found contaminated on Thursday morning, after miscreants dumped a poisonous chemical, believed to be industrial waste, into the river. The incident came to light when people were shocked to find the river water blackish and fish struggling for life. While a number of people were busy trying to gather the fish, many of which were already dead, Sarpanch of nearby Bastora panchayat Janardhan Parsekar alerted Mapusa police. A police team, headed by PI C L Patil and PSI Mohan Naik, rushed to the site and pulled out everyone fishing in the river. The police team then rushed to the Mapusa market, were some of the fish was being sold and confiscated it. Police later alerted health officials and the Pollution Control Board about the dumping of the chemical waste into the river, which is believed to have been emptied into the river by a tanker. A team from the Pollution Control Board collected water samples for testing. Earlier, North Goa Superintendent of Police D K Sawant along with the Sub Divisional Magistrate Mahesh Khorjuvenkar inspected the site. and took stock of the situation. Mapusa police has registered a case against unidentified persons. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Remember ?- Cucurucu, Kiteak Kortai Nokre, Piti piti Mog , La Marina Hotelant etc etc ???
Remember- Cucurucu, Kiteak Kortai Nokre, Piti piti Mog etc etc ??? or for that matter, Moje Maim Moje Maim, La Marina Hotelant, Mog tara Boom boom, Kaliz hem boong beng zata, Gelem baba gelem khuimcheanuch gelem etcet All these oldies appeared on Goanet/Gulf Goan News letter Goan-nri recently. JoeGoaUk in association with SAREGAMA (India) has brought to you these and many more oldies on CDs == Album 1: Chris Perry's Golden Hits RED Rose, Lorna HAPPY NEW YEAR, Usha Mangheskar Amber Kumar MOJE MAIM, Miles Giles Perry MARIALINA, H Britton BEAUTIFUL, Usha Uthup MOG tara BOON BOONG, Bab Peter CUCU-RUCU, Tony Carr PITITI MOG, Anthonette MOJE PUT, M Boyer KALLIZ hem BOONG BANG ZATA, Tony CArr Delphine KITEAK KORTAI NOKRE, Adolf Album 2: Alfred Rose Goa's Musical Hero NOVE VORSACHE NICHEV VIVA LA GOA CELINA (La Marina Hotelant) MAREKAR KRIMI PATOK RODTAM JANET LINET LAKPOTI PONVOTI GELEM BABA GELEM BESANV NASTANA KAZAR And Soon coming out Alfred Rose-Rita Rose Duets from Film Boglantt, Sukachem Sopon and Rita Rose Top Hits. This info appeared in Goan Daily NT dtd 10/3/06 Another Charter Flight Express Delivery. Until then, HAPPY LISTENING. Important Reminder: April Fool May come only once a year but in JoeGoaUk's postings it may come several times a year. One can trust every thing he says in his postings except the one in between the dotted lines [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ for Goa Goa Flights info.. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/LetsGotoGoa ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] RE: the little known FACT cross-cultural cuisine
--- jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder where one goes to verify this above mentioned FACT (that Goans were vegetarian before the Portuguese) Is fish vegetarian ? Mario speculates: I believe the term vegetarian is often used loosely to refer to a food that may be acceptable to many vegetarians. Fish, not being a vegetable, is obviously not strictly vegetarian. However, it is eaten by many vegetarians, especially those whose diet is determined by religious tenets against eating beef or pork. Similarly, there are some in India who consider unfertilized eggs to be vegetarian.
Re: [Goanet] GOA FOR GOANS!
--- Gabriel de Figueiredo wrote: Bernado, Don't cause yourself an injury. Mario obviously does not know what he's writing about. He's writing about village life, when most towns in India were no better. Mario observes: The amusing revisionist nostalgia for colonial subservience continues unabated. Gabriel and Bernardo are living proof that there will always be some Goans who love the notion of being sycophants under the heel of a backward third rate European country and not part of a budding superpower. 45 years later it's still a backward third rate European country, but still close to the hearts of Gabriel and Bernardo, Oh, how good their boots tasted, and how about all those imported cars and duty free cosmetics. Oh, for the good old days! Can we turn back the clock, PLEASE? Gabriel, apparently from aristocratic and affluent Loutolim, is unaware that most village Goans back then used bullock-drawn carts for transportation in most of Goa, not the fancy foreign vehicles he lists, which could not make it back to the rutted roads in most of the villages. Gabriel is wrong about colonial Goa being like most Indian towns. I grew up in a medium sized Indian town and know that most of Goa under the Portuguese was more like an Indian village rather than any Indian town, because the Brits had done a far superior job in India than the somnolent Portuguese had done in Goa. When we visited Goa, it was like going on safari. Oh, the duty free imports were great, for the visitors, Goan businessmen and the European exporters. That was the essence of an exploitative European colonizer - the colony was a free source of raw materials at one end and a captive market at the other end. Apparently, freedom and democracy does not appeal to everyone.
[Goanet] P'yats should act against illegal structures
http://oheraldo.in/node/10830 P'yats should act against illegal structures BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, MARCH 9 — Illegal constructions have turned into a menace especially in panchayat areas, where it is easy to get the go-ahead for any kind of construction from the panchayat authorities. It appears dealing with this menace is telling on the functioning of the Directorate of Panchayats as there are about 1100 appeals for demolition pending before it. To overcome this additional burden, the Department is now thinking of setting up a special body to deal with cases of illegal constructions. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] RE: Horror story from Russian tourists about Goa...
--- Bosco D'Mello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario, Is it so difficult for you to stick to the debate ?? Are you so out of sync?? Out of the 3 paragraphs in your message below, only the first one is relevant to this debate. Philip Thomas has taken the time and effort to enlighten us with relevant information about the status and possibly future direction of Goa's aviation scene for several months now. I believe, it is largely thanks to him that we have a better understanding of what the airport imbroglio is all about. Mario responds: Bosco, Philip has been giving us a better understanding of the airport imbroglio? Sure. But, unfortunately for your illogical comments in this post, this thread had nothing to do with the airport imbroglio. In your own words, Is it so difficult for you to stick to the debate?? Are you so out of sync?? However, it seems you forgot your own question almost immediately. What does Philip's excellent posts about the aviation scene in Goa have anything to do with this thread? I was not debating anyone. I was asking for a clarification of details about the horror story that I did not understand. I addressed them to Fred because he is a journalist and would be in a better position than most to ascertain the facts. Do I have to spell out everything for you? Bosco (obviously having a bad day) writes: Your response below like several to Goanet displays your chronic irritability and rudeness. There is nothing anybody can say or have an opinion about, without you having to pipe-in with uncomplimentary remarks. Mario responds: Bosco, what posts have you been reading? Re-read my original post addressing Fred, then Philip's gratuitous and rude response to do my own research on the web, which falsely assumed that I had not already done so, and see who was expressing uncomplimentary and irritable remarks. Bosco continues irritably: With this attitude of yours NOBODY should be answering any of your questions. The next time you go to Goa - go to the hotel and hospital yourself and ask them why the victim was allegedly treated in a callous and appalling way by hotel and hospital personnel after he was attacked? Mario responds: Again, I asked Fred a question. How did it become any of your business? You have nothing constructive to add, so why are you butting in? You are even confusing this thread with the airport imbroglio. Maybe if you had read the account by the Russian lady you would know that she was telling the world that the victim was allegedly treated in a callous and appalling way by hotel and hospital personnel after he was attacked. If you weren't being so defensive and irritable today, maybe you would want to know the answer yourself, so that others, Russian or local, may not experience the same fate. Bosco's irritability continues: And fyki while addressing Fred, you posted your message to Goanet - a public mailing list, which means anybody can respond to you. If you wanted to address Fred directly, you should have sent him a private message. Mario responds: I would have had no objections if the response by Philip had been cogent, constructive, instructive and to the point. It was none of these. I was trying to get information. Instead I got an irritable response that did not answer my question. Bosco writes: I don't know how the misfortune that befell a Russian in Goa, suddenly became your business ?? I'm sure you get my drift. Mario responds: And I don't know how a question I asked became any of YOUR business, since you have no information to provide to the question I was asking.
[Goanet] NEWS FLASH ---SUSPECTED TERRORIST NABBED AT MARGAO rly station
A suspected terrorist allegedly carrying a bomb aged 35 - 45 years lean was detained by the Railway Police at the Madgaon Railway Station. According to one Railway official as the Mangala Express Nizamuddin Ernakalum reached Madgaon at 2115hrs IST the man alighted and was nabbed on suspicion. He has since been detained. Police investigations are in progress. GODFREY J I GONSALVES BORDA MARGAO GOA 9822158584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com
[Goanet] GSCB to file FIR against Velip
http://oheraldo.in/node/10818 GSCB to file FIR against Velip BY HERALD REPORTER PANJIM, MARCH 9 – The Goa State Co-operative Bank has resolved to file an FIR against its former chairman Prakash Velip and ex-managing director R R Phal for investing Rs 55 crores in bonds and causing loss to the bank. A three-member Investment Committee comprising chairman, managing director and general manager (accounts) on July 13, 2004, purchased 1812 Noida Toll Bridge Company Ltd's zero percent deep discount bonds at a price of Rs 35,950 per bond involving Rs 6.51 crores. Again between September and November 2004, the committee purchased 12,758 zero percent IIBI non-SLR deep discount bonds at a total cost of Rs 48.75 crores. The decision was taken allegedly without taking the Board of Directors into confidence when Velip-led BJP-supported group was ruling the roost of the bank. The investment committee was constituted by the bank's executive committee. Incidentally, Rajkumar Dessai, a teacher and a member of the RSS was the vice-chairman of the bank then and Goa was ruled by the BJP. The decisions of investment in non-SLR bonds was discussed at the meeting of board of directors recently. It was stated during the meeting that the bank should not have sold the securities as the market was not good then. To a query raised at the meeting whether bank norms had been followed, Velip said the bank could have purchased only listed non-SLR bonds after studying the health of the company. The meeting however noted that the bonds bought were not listed ones. A resolution was later adopted authorizing the general manager (vigilance) of the bank to file FIR against Velip and Phal in the matter. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] AMENDMENT TO LANGUAGE ACT -KONKNNI - ROMAN SCRIPT
In the forthcoming session of the Goa Legislative Assembly beginning on 20th March 2006 the enclosed draft Bill prepared by this writer to amend The Goa Daman Diu Official Language Act 1987 for the grant of official recognition to Konkani in Roman script as well has been circulated to MLA's and others. The other amendments provided therein to the Goa Daman Diu Official Language Act 1987 which was enacted while under Union Territory status are now following Goa attaining Statehood sought to be carried out. It is hoped that the same is pursued in right earnest so that the movement and the issue does not turn out to be a political agenda at future elections to whip up emotions and frenzy as in the 1985 language agitation. Since the amemdment has support from all like minded Goans for the development of the mother tongue of all Goans except a miniscule few who insist on only one script mooted since 1939 the Bill ought to have a smooth passage. Meanwhile it is reliably learnt that the High Command is sensitive to this demand now that similar moves have been made from Karnataka as well to grant recognition to Konkani in Kannada script under the new dispensation in Karnataka. __ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your partner now. Go to http://yahoo.shaadi.com The_Goa_Daman_and_Diu_Official_Language.doc Description: pat1164483412
[Goanet] High Stakes
I would like to add to HIGH STAKES AT SANVORDEM by VM de Malar and THE SEIGE OF PANJIM by Jason Keith I do not understand when it is reported that BJP leaders incite people over water shortage in Vasco, and barge into PWD offices, mob creates rukus, breaks table glass etc, why no Police action IMMEDIATELY follows, no arrests, nothing happens when government property is damaged? In fact cover up/hushing up are done expertly! The majesty of the Law is not being upheld, but in fact manipulated./ trampled upon! I see CCP elections banners of Manohar Parrikar and his candidate being torn down and those of Monserrate left untouched. Valentine Coelho of Soccoro gets vehicles in his garrage vandalised because he dares question IT Park proposed.We have a depraved system ,when then GPSC is empowered to grant liscences to Stone Crushing units without worrying about the consequences of unmonitored and unregulated functionning on the local people there! It appears to be a free for all, with Goa and its docile and all other gentle people being taken for granted. Those who live by the sword will die by the sword.What is the use of Authorities, if they do not bring solace and justice to the poor and suffering people? They have the power to strictly ensure Law and Order. Why do complaints have to be made, roads blocked, people forced to agitate or take the law into their own hands, before the authorities Act? ARE WE HEADING FOR ANARCHY? This sort of ugly mockery of democracy has no place for the law abiding non communal people of beautiful Goa , if it will still exist!
[Goanet] Candidates backed by parties on their toes
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=031012 Candidates backed by parties on their toes Sheikh Jamaludin Wards 21 to 25 Panaji March 9: Despite the fever of corporation elections gripping Panaji, the sense of insecurity lingers at the back of the minds of the voters. And this is going to be the deciding factor for those candidates who have entered the fray backed by the political parties. With barely a day left for campaigning and with most residents being office goers, the candidates of both panels, Panaji Development Front (PDF) and Panel for Progress(PFP) are finding it tough to reach every one. With the problems of garbage dumping, primitive sewage system, no adequate water supply, no uninterrupted power supply, no proper parking place and continuous digging of roads and above all dust pollution, staring at the faces of the electorate of wards from 21 to 25, the candidates are vying each other in promising the moon. For Ms Poonam Salgaonkar contesting from ward number 21 setting up of a health club-cum-gymnasium in joggers' park would be her top most priority. Her opponent Ms Sushila Gawas promises to work for the maintenance of the government quarters and also to solve the slum problems. In this ward number, with a total of 1148 votes it is going to be the straight fight. In ward 22 which has 1153 voters, while Mr Mangaldas Naik is for providing a footpath next to the road leading to Altinho from the Panaji Church and clearing the jungle behind the Government Polytechnic, for Mr Abhishek Pai the priority is to get rid of the existing sewage system at the Monte Pio hill,construct a bus stop at Nirmala Institute and provide a rickshaw stand at Altinho. The third candidate is Mr Joseph Claro Dias Sapeco. In ward no 23 having 1225 votes it is going to be a straight fight between Mr Rudresh Chodankar and John Rodrigues. While Mr Chodankar will ensure that a corruption free, performance oriented corparation emerges after the election, Mr Rodrigues believes in doing the social work but his priority is to provide proper sanitation and construct speed breakers at the school junction. In this ward 24 having total of 1039 votes six ladies trying their luck. They are Ms Lalan Surlakar, Ms Diksha Mayenkar, Ms Cardozo Mariapaula, Ms Manda Sadanand Shetye, Ms Vaishali Nitin Shetye, Ms Shalini Bhiva Usgaonkar. Mr Shamu Trivikram Silimkhan from ward 25 having 1351 votes promises to solve the traffic problem and carry out the beautification programme. Mr Shantaram Kundaikar will provide a retaining wall to the residents who houses face threat during monsoon season. Ms Nazima Godinhoa and Mr Rajesh Keluskar are also in the fray. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Comment: With the recent disturbances in Cuchorem, do not l be surprised, at all, if the BJP candidates are rejected out of hand. Monserrate should romp in and will then take it as having been given a green light by the electorate to carve up Panjim as he likes.
[Goanet] Court admits Vishwajit Rane’s defamat ion case against Parrikar
http://www.digitalgoa.com/ca_disp.php?id=572 Court admits Vishwajit Rane's defamation case against Parrikar March 10 - JMFC, Panaji today admitted the complaint filed by Vishwajit Rane, son of chief minister Pratapsing Rane, which alleged that the statements made in a press conference by leader of opposition Manohar Parrikar has defamed his reputation. The court also served a notice to the former chief minister Manohar Parrikar to appeal before the court. Noted lawyer Mahesh Jethmalani appeared for Mr Rane. It may be noted that Mr Parrikar in a press conference held recently had charged Mr Rane of interfering in administration and effecting transfers of government servents. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Flooding, incomplete Mala lake, market complex priorities
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=031014 Flooding, incomplete Mala lake, market complex priorities Umesh Mahambre Panaji March 9: Fate of the controversial Mala Lake, completion of the long pending PDA market at Mala, flooding of water, lack of toilet facilities in the low lying areas are some of the issues that are being raised by the voters from ward numbers 16 to 20. These wards cover an area behind the St Inez Ganesh temple to Mala via Bhatlem and Chincholem. The rival panels, Panaji Development Front (PDF) and the Panel for Progress (PFP) have fielded their candidates in all the wards. Ward number 16 consists of 1445 votes and the main fight is expected to be between Mr Tony Rodrigues (PDF) and Mr Santosh Kunkolienkar (PFP). There are two other candidate Mr Motos Sequeira Jose Francisco and Mr Sheikh Bapusab Shaukat. A former councillor, Mr Rodrigues had to lose his position after Taleigao was deleted from the CCP. His priority is to repair roads, keep the ward clean and complete the drainage. Besides, he said that he would stop the garbage segregation work being going on in the animal shed. Mr Kunkolienkar is in the fray to fight corruption and illegalities that are on in Taleigao. He said that Taleigao will be the only place in the state to complete roads without the land acquisition process being completed. I am a victim and my 300 mts land was used for road and recently I have received a letter from the government for acquisition of my land for the road, which had been already completed'. Ward number 17 will witness a four-cornered fight between Mr Udai Madkaikar (PDF), Mr Sameer Chari (PFP), Mr Rupesh Naik, and Mr Ratinakar Phaterpekar. A former councillor, Mr Madkaikar is re-contesting. He said that inspite of severe opposition from land owners he had managed to provide 180 Sulabh Shouchalaya. As against this, the PFP candidate, Mr Chari plans to clean up the drainage and undertake road repair works. He alleged that the CCP has neglected the St Inez-Bhatlem road and the previous councillor had not even raise any voice about it. Ward 18 consists of 915 voters and three women candidates are in the fray, which include Ms Uma Naik (PDF), Ms Salomi Pawar (PFP) and an independent, Ms Aparna Naik. Ms Uma said that the major problems highlighted by the voters was the lack of sewage connections to houses on the slopes. As against this Ms Pawar said she would take up drain repari, street lighting, cleaning of gutters. Ward 19 consisting of 985 votes will witness a straight fight between Mr Narashiva Morajkar (PDF) and Mr Da Cruz Menino Jesus (PFP). The Mala lake project falls in this wards and Mr Morajkar said his priority would be to get the project completed, remove the water clogging to avoid flooding of Mala, and get the PDA's Mala market project completed. Mr Da Cruz said priorities would be get the sluice gate repaired to avoid flooding, complete the lake and market projects. Ward number 20 consists of 1004 votes and there will be straight fight between Mr Krishna Shirodkar (PDF) and Mr Pravin Sopte. For Mr Shirodkar the repair of the sluice gate to avoid flooding of mala during the monsoon are priorities. Besides he said that he was in favour of completion of the Mala Lake project. As against this Mr Sopte says that the project was undertaken by the Parrikar government and that he would work to complete the project. Besides, he said that he would work for the promotion of the Mala fountain as a tourist spot on lines of Boca da Vaca fountain. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Churchill speaks on Communal riots
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=031018 Churchill speaks on Communal riots NT Reporters team Sanvordem March 9: The South Goa Congress MP, Mr Churchill Alemao expressing shock over the Sanvordem-Curchorem riots, has appealed to Goans to maintain peace and communal harmony as they have been doing all these years. He urged political leaders not to tear the communal fabric apart for their narrow political gains. Speaking to the reporters today morning, Mr Alemao blamed the police for their inaction even though the rioters openly ransacked houses and broke open shops and damaged petrol pumps. It was the destructive idea of the BJP to instigate the people to violently attack the minority community at the twin-towns— Sanvordem- Curchorem. He alleged that it was the BJP's game plan to fan communal tension in the towns and its local MLAs should also to be blamed. Mr Alemao who visited the affected Sanvordem areas and the houses of people from the minority community, stated that it was the false rumors that few armed men had come from Bhatkal in Sanvordem to create communal tension. If so the police had to give a report in that regard, he stressed. Mr Alemao revealed that the Goa government had initially taken things lightly and never sought help from the Central Industrial Security Force (CISF). He claimed that the CISF was sent to Goa at his request to the Goa Governor and top police official to control the situation. Mr Alemao questioned as to how the police allowed the former chief minister, Mr Manohar Parrikar and it's five MLAs to hold three meeting at the twin towns when the government had imposed Section 144. The Goa police are responsible for rioting incidents, he stated. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Comment: One does not have to be a Rocket Scientist, to realise that Parrikar and the five BJP MLA's were there to direct the troops and to make sure that none of them were hindered in by the Police.smacks of what happened prior to the onset of Nazi Germany.
[Goanet] Bus operators threaten to go on strike if demands not met
http://www.navhindtimes.com/stories.php?part=newsStory_ID=031017 Bus operators threaten to go on strike if demands not met NT Staff Reporter Panaji March 9: The president of the All Goa Private Bus Owners Association, Mr Rajanikant Naik today said that the association would have no option but to go one a statewide strike, if the government fails to agree to its demand of increasing the bus fares before the end of the March 15 deadline. The association members during the day met the Chief Minister, Mr Pratapsingh Rane with their demands but were asked to take the matter to the Transport Minister, Mr Pandurang Madkaikar. The delegation of the association had already met the Transport Minister two days ago and he had directed them to approach the Chief Minister. Mr Madkaikar had also expressed his inability to increase the ticket rates. The association had submitted a proposal to the government suggesting the ticket rate of Rs 5 for first kilometer travelled and 40 paise for every subsequent kilometer. Presently these rates are Rs 4 and 35 paise, respectively. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
Re: [Goanet] RE: the little known FACT cross-cultural cuisine
On 10/03/06, jose colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Relish the cross-cultural cuisine .. Gabe, it would also have been nice to have the name of the author. jc RESPONSE: Sorry for that! must have been gremlins, I was sure, I copied it all, better late than never: Relish the cross-cultural RACHANA GROVER TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ THURSDAY, MARCH 09, 2006 12:00:29 AM] -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England
[Goanet] Warning against defamation
--- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh Helekar has a well earned reputation of truncating people's comments in order to change their meaning. I think that qualifies as being dishonest. The above poster has again started spreading lies about me in this public forum. If he continues his abuse and slander against me any further, I will be forced to take legal action. I have saved all his defamatory posts against me and all other individuals in this forum over the last couple of years. He has sent too many people, including a respected and illustrious octagenarian Victor Rangel-Ribeiro to crawl under a rock, simply for an innocent disagreement. This Mario Goveia has no respect for anybody who disagrees with him. In return, he deserves none. I have tolerated him enough. It is becoming increasingly painful for me to call him a human being. Let this be my final warning to him. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet] RE: the little known FACT cross-cultural cuisine
From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Relish the cross-cultural cuisine TIMES NEWS NETWORK In fact many people think that Goan cuisine has to do mostly with the non-vegetarian. However I soon found out that it's not true. Maria explained a little known FACT that before the Portuguese occupation of nearly four and half centuries, most Goans were vegetarian. Ah! the Times of India, the home of the BOGUS Goa-Alcohol study. (mercifully modified before publication elsewhere) I wonder where one goes to verify this above mentioned FACT Is fish vegetarian ? BTW: in this majority of Goans did Maria include the native Goans eg Kunbis ani Gaudis? Did the Saraswats start eating fish after being forced by the Portuguese. Did the 'New Conquests' develop their famous fish cuisine only after the Portuguese? Where does one go for this FACT? I could understand this situation when Goa was under the Buddhists. Wonder what happened to them. Did the Portuguese wipe them out too? It would be good to know Gabe, it would also have been nice to have the name of the author. jc _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] Food wine week on TV to start in Jaipur, continue to Goa
http://www.business-standard.com/common/storypage.php?storyflag=yleftnm=lmnu1leftindx=1lselect=1chklogin=Nautono=218110 Food wine week on TV to start in Jaipur Anil Sharma / New Delhi/ Jaipur March 10, 2006 Keith Floyd, one of the world's most admired travel chefs, will explore the culinary delights and travel locations of India on Discovery Travel Living, starting with Jaipur. Discovery Travel Living, India's only international lifestyle channel, will present the country's heritage in Floyd Week. Floyd Week, a one-hour special slated to be aired on Discovery Travel Living everyday from March 13 to 17 at 9 pm, weaves two unique but complementing subjects, Indian food and French wine into two half-hour back to back programmes-Floyd's India and Floyd Uncorked. The first half-hour of the special- Floyd's India would present to the world the local and distinct cuisine, culture and traditions of five Indian cities-Jaipur, Chennai, Kolkata, Mumbai, Goa. The second half-hour of the programme Floyd uncorked will present Indian viewers the art of wine making and appreciation exploring the crisp, sparkling wines of Champagne and the sweet wines of Sauterne. The first episode will feature the attractive landscape, magnificent palaces and gastronomy of India's Pink City. Floyd, to capture the realness of the city, shuns modern day luxuries and presents the buzz around Bapu Bazaar and Hawa Mahal from rides on cycle rickshaw and camel cart. Floyd also visits the neighbouring villages and uses his culinary expertise to cook regional delicacies. The other India's cuisines and preparations captured on the programme include - Vindaloo in Goa, street food of Mumbai, Chettinad food of Chennai and fish curry in Kolkata. Rajiv Bakshi- Manager Marketing Communications, said, Floyd's India presents the true India in its various form and interpretations. It serves as an ideal guide for viewers, both from India and abroad, with a complete representation of every city it visits. -- TUMCHER AXIRVAD ASSUM; DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Remark: Floyd has been to Goa and if anyone has seen his cooking programme before, he has copious amounts of lubrication at hand. He has called the Goan Feni a close second to Calvados ( Apple distilled). Floyd has been to Goa before and has cooked on a shigdi. (sp?) In fact, both he and Rick Stein have carried their Goenkar shigdis back to England!
[Goanet] Is Gilbert Menezes ducking the questions by name calling?
In response to his quite oddly phrased previous post Gilbert Menezes was asked a few questions (Please vide infra) It is possible that Gilbert Menezes a: has realised that his post does not make sense. i.e. Does someone who receives(uses) services need PERMISSION to PAY .or is that someone EXPECTED to PAY. b: has NOT realised that his post does not make sense And has decided that attack, name calling and obfuscation is the best form of defence - et states the following: a: As expected, my post regarding the Indian Armed Forces, drew an instant response from 2 Salazarist gentlemen . b: Need I say more? Dear Mr. Menezes, Instead of bogus name calling, please return to the topic at hand. I personally expect you to Say No More than Clarify matters arising out of your post; that is ...If you are able to do so. If you are NOT able, so be it. It matters very little that you do or do not understand that Dictators are Dictators, and centrists have NO place for Dictators and Coup artists (like Salazar and others who rise via coups) in their lives. But let me not allow myself to be diverted by your diversionary-saffron ploy. I will repeat the queries one last time. You may duck the questions and hide, and obfuscate in the process. You may even resort to some new name calling exercise, or merely go silent. Even in silence or in diversionary obfuscation, you would have stated your position. Once again .infra is what you posted. Your post is followed by some questions (Most of which you have probably seen but decided to duck) Sogood wishes and good luck jc === gilbert menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As per Govt. of India regulations, families of serving personnel are PERMITTED TO PAY for use of military transport, on condition of availability at the military station where they are based. JC's queries: 1: Would Mr. Menezes please direct me to the Govt. of India regulation which PERMITS families of serving personnel TO PAY for use of military transport ? 2: As Mr. Menezes is in the know (apparently) How does a civilian go about making a case of Tort or whatever, against a member of the Armed Forces who commits a criminal act or one of megligence? 3: Does Mr. Menezes know How many such incidents have occured, How many have been reported, How they have been dealt with .or is this all part of the Securitas Excusé Moi ? 4: How does Mr. Menezes fell ...not only as an Armed Forces man (be it ex) but also as a fair (I hope) man IS IT FAIR that the Armed Forces should get subsidized stuff from the Canteen but not the following a: Doctors, Nurses, Lab technicians b: Police c: Law abiding Bus Drivers in Goa d: Law abiding Pedestrians in Goa e: Law abiding two-wheel riders f: Law abiding elderly g: Law abiding residents of Dabolim and vicinity Does he believe that their life is any less dangerous than that of the chaps in Dabolim ? Eventually, we might ask him IF it is legal to Quiet a Title ? _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 255
--- gilbert menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As expected, my post regarding the Indian Armed Forces, drew an instant response from 2 Salazarist gentlemen, who just cant forgive the Indian Armed Forces for evicting their heroes in 1961. Need I say more? regards, Gilbert Menezes Ran out of ammo, Mr. Menezes? We are still awaiting your inside knowledge on Dabolim - how it was acquired by the Navy. Gabriel de Figueiredo. P.S. I declare that I never was, nor am I, a Salazarist. I was born a Portuguese citizen, and I will live a Portuguese citizen. And Goa is my homeland. That is all. On Yahoo!7 Photos: Unlimited free storage keep all your photos in one place! http://au.photos.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re: Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 252
Gilbert, Several classmates at the school I studied at, in N. India, were children of Army personnel. They always came to school in Army trucks. I never knew they may have paid for the service. Thanks for sharing that. On the flipside, the Indian Army, would take all students from our school in their Shaktiman trucks to their base regularly for Hindi movies. While the fare of movies were dour, the ride to/from the base was always exhilarating - open trucks, high-speedJust before graduation, the class spent an entire day at the range - running with stone-laden backpacks, target shooting (live ammo), mock attacks thru growing bootha fields and mounds of earth. Was a tough day - several bottles of Iodex and Sloans were utilized that night. While the class had an entertaining day, nobody contemplated joining the Armed Services, other than Balwinder and the Dhupia bros. Several years later, I still carry those wonderful memories about the Armed Services. The Armed Services in India are always perceived to be above the law, possibly due to their own judiciary system - the Army Act. Nevertheless, it is in the interest of the Armed Services that fellow Indians know more about the former. To that end, you have volunteered information, several times. Thank you. I hope you continue to do so. Best - Bosco gilbert menezes wrote on Wed Mar 8 20:02:33 PST 2006: In your continueing campaign to tarnish the image of the Armed Forces, you are now implying that families of servicemen get free helicopter rides, and kids get free transportation to school.
[Goanet] Konkani Press and communalism?
It is sad that a journalist of Sandesh Prabhudesai's calibre has had to justify his stand and defend Sunaparant of which he is Editor. Sunaparant, as I see it and read it, is the most balanced local daily and I salute Sandesh for it. He has not once allowed his personal views to colour the face of the paper. The fact that, as Miguel has said, few people today read the Sunaparant, is a pity but I am sure this is changing soon, as Sunaparant offers the best reading material and a wide spectrum of views, everyday. Newspaper columns serve as a platform for writers to express their personal opinions and as such should not be mixed with the newspaper's 'agenda', if any. If a Datta Naik is allowed to say his stuff, why not a Subhash Velingkar? And if anyone has something to say contrary to what a columnist writes, why not say it through that very paper? All of us who know Sandesh personally, and this includes Miguel, should know that Sandesh is above caste and communal bias. He is one of the few baamans I know who isn't exactly ecstatic about being one. I really wish, once again, that Sandesh did not have to defend Sunaparant and offer justifications when he has single-handedly elevated the status of the paper to being a balanced, zestful and intelligent daily. Sapna Sardessai
Re: [Goanet] Re: Homeschooling in Goa
...My posting concerning homeschooling was a very simple query about the homeschooling movement--I wanted to know if there was one in Goa and/or India. ... Peter D'Souza The short answer is No. There is no homeschooling movement in Goa or in India. Mervyn Lobo While there may be no *homeschooling movement*, in India, one may enroll as a private candidate, study at home or with private tutors, and then appear for *Board* or *University* examinations. The terms and conditions are available from the Registrars of the respective institutions. Lawrence - Need a *Gmail* e-mail ID? Do write to me. Will send you an invitation to open a *Gmail* e-mail account. :-)
[Goanet] RE: Comings and goings - and the demon
Churchill ominously predicting that once the Mopa airport comes up our water and electricity bills will go up by five times. His logic is astounding. Here's how it goes Once the Mopa airport is built tourists will stop coming to Goa and go directly to the beaches of Sindhurg. The Goa Government gets its main income from tourism. Since there are no tourists the government will be forced to get money from the locals by increasing their water and electricity bills. What!!? There might be many reasons for and against Dabolim and Mopa but this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I would think that some of Radharao Gracias' brilliant oratory, and keen logic, should have rubbed off on Churchill by now - considering that they are always seen together. [Cecil Pinto] Its most re-assuring to see that there ARE people in Goa who dont fall hook line and sinker for the silly arguments of our politicians. Its most disappointing to see these self-styled leaders playing zero-sum games to massage their own egos with not a care about the fate of the people -- or their intelligence.
[Goanet] RE: Horror story from Russian tourists about Goa...
Mario, Is it so difficult for you to stick to the debate ?? Are you so out of sync ?? Out of the 3 paragraphs in your message below, only the first one is relevant to this debate. Philip Thomas has taken the time and effort to enlighten us with relevant information about the status and possibly future direction of Goa's aviation scene for several months now. I believe, it is largely thanks to him that we have a better understanding of what the airport imbroglio is all about. Your response below like several to Goanet displays your chronic irritability and rudeness. There is nothing anybody can say or have an opinion about, without you having to pipe-in with uncomplimentary remarks. With this attitude of yours NOBODY should be answering any of your questions. The next time you go to Goa - go to the hotel and hospital yourself and ask them why the victim was allegedly treated in a callous and appalling way by hotel and hospital personnel after he was attacked? And fyki while addressing Fred, you posted your message to Goanet - a public mailing list, which means anybody can respond to you. If you wanted to address Fred directly, you should have sent him a private message. I don't know how the misfortune that befell a Russian in Goa, suddenly became your business ?? I'm sure you get my drift. Best - Bosco --- Philip Thomas phlp_thms at hotmail.com wrote: As a journalist, can you investigate and shed some light on the fish that appears to have attacked Sasha. Suggest YOU check out crampfish on the web and share your findings with goanetters! Cheers! Mario responds: Philip, The crampfish described on the web seems incapable of making holes in it's victims. If you had read the account of the tragedy you would know that Sasha had been pierced in some way. And as someone who posts endless information on tourism and travel in Goa, what is your explanation for the callous and appalling way in which the victim was allegedly treated by hotel and hospital personnel after he was attacked? Thanks for displaying once again your chronic irritability and rudeness. My post was addressed to Fred, not to you. So, please do me a favor and mind your own business, unless you have something constructive and instructive to add. Thank you. Mario.
