[Goanet]Events of '61...
Bernardo Colaco wrote: But what was wrong was the way it was attained. It was hurry, hurry affair, with no person fit to rule Goa. A big mistake on the part of Nehru, Hence all we have had were crooks ruling Goa, and Goans have accepted it as a way of life. Tumi chorat, amkam susegad dovrat. = Precisely, crooks have been ruling Goa because the act of Democracy is a failure. Should partial democracy be installed in Goa? Our 'think tanks' discuss issues on this forum which have no relevance to Goa. _ Dear Bernardo, Its over FORTY YEARS since liberation, and Goa has made huge strides in progress. Goa is nowhere where it was before liberation, and I just cannot comprehend your thoughts. In a democracy, the government is one chosen by the people for the people, so where does your friend Nehru come in the picture? Democracy is not a failure in Goa, in fact, it is one of the great success stories ever. Sadly it is the fault of the Goan masses when they willingly choose to elect the representatives they have. I think its time for all Goans to forget their dreams of Portuguese rule, and go on forward from there. Like I said earlier, Goa has progressed tremendously, and if one compare and goes into details I can say that the progress that Goa achieved in the last 40 years is definitely more than what happenned in the 100 years before liberation. Let us see the positives and avoid being pessimistic. See the improvement in educational facilities, productive industry, among so many other areas where there has been an advancement. And instead of always complaining, let us do something to encourage our fellow Goans to do something better. regards salus
[Goanet]Abbe Faria
Sandeep Heble wrote: The magician I spoke to some time back, on this particular subject, was Goa's renowned magician D Satish. He has even written a book debunking the art of hypnotism. Those who wish to have more insights and info on the subject of hypnotism must make it a point to interact with him. He is very knowledgeable, humorous and witty. He lives in Panjim. The little talk I had with him left me more than convinced that hypnotism was nothing but bunkum ___ D. Satish may be Goa's renowned magician, but we would like to know the basis for him to be an authority on Hypnotism. For Sandeep's information, 99% of Goanet subscribers are very knowledgeable, humorous and witty. The only difference is that they all do not live in Panjim. But that qualification does not make them an authority on any subject. Hypnotism is a subject that is too vast to learn about in a 'little talk' so lets just not get into that now. And just for the record, I am sure many Goanetters will agree with my view that 'magic' IS NOTHING BUT BUNKUM!!! cheers! Salus
[Goanet]Motocycle Pilots
I agree with Rahul. In the mid sixties I remember a couple of pilots near the Panjim gardens and one chap used to hire his bike to the older boys at Don Bosco High School! This concept must have then moved on to the beach fronts etc as Domnic and the rest claim. But the fact remains that Panjim had motorcycle pilots for a long long time! salus
[Goanet]Re: SC bans use of horns, loudspeakers, crackers after 10 pm
We must change with the times, and the church has done so too. Here in Melbourne, in my parish we have the midnight service at midnight, but the main and more attractive service is at 6 pm and it is called the 'Vigil' service. This Vigil is held in the open air, and is very popular and is largly attended. The program begins with a barbeque at 5 pm, followed by family picnics on the grounds. Then at 6 the choir begins singing carols, followed by the mass and the rest of the festivities. Everyone is informally dressed too. The more serious type attend the service in the church formally dressed at midnight! And there is no problem with use of the sound system there as the church walls are well insulated for sound which cannot be heard outside. With the introduction of the new law, rather than fight it, I think it would be nice if every parish had their own service in their respective church, and maybe Don Bosco's in Panjim could have a vigil service in the open air at 6. That way the Catholic community would be leading by example too.
[Goanet]CAju Feni
Alfred de Tavares wrote: I admited as much to Gabe when he forwarded me the vintage Zuzarte article by return post. I did not know that the Salesians had elevated their educational unit to the status of a seminary. More power to them. But, then, they have always been fast. About Raia and Racol/Raitura.. The Salesian orchard/estate lies in Santemol, ardorously claimed by both, hardly a co'tti-dram away from yours truely in Loutulim. Dear Alfred, sorry to say this, but you missed again. I have never said that the Salesians have elevated their educational unit to the status of a seminary. I think you are confusing the SVD's who are Missionaries of Divine Mercy with the SDB's who are the Salesians of Don Bosco. And incidentally, the Salesians are nowhere near Raia. They are in Quepem where they run Pope John 23 High school, and in Sulcorna which is nearby! It is the Missionaries of Divine Mercy who have their institution at Raia. regards, salus [not 'salu']
[Goanet]Solar powered traffic lights
Neil and Gabriel have given us some insight, and here is my two paise worth of an addition! Here in Melbourne, traffic lights are also controlled by magnetic sensors which are placed under the road, just before the white stopping line. When there is a slack in traffic, say in the night or during off peak times, then we find the green signal lit up on the main thoroughfare. Should a vehicle come up facing a red light, no sooner the vehicle comes over the sensor, then the lights automatically change to green, and then revert back as they were. The advantage here is that unlike the 'timer' system, traffic flows smoothly during slack times. During peak times, the timers overide the sensors, and each side gets equal time to cross at the junctions. There have been many times when the Government in Goa have invested in traffic lights, only to have them go out of order in a short time, and then they have remained standing till another new system is installed with the same fate and result. Maybe it would be a better idea if the government does a proper study about the quality of they system they are introducing, and have a sort of a service contract with the supplier to maintain the system, with penalities.
[Goanet]Caju Feni
Alfred de Tavares wrote: Not the Rachol seminary, dear Gabe. They don't have the gumption (begging your pardon, Fr. Ivo) for such an enterprise. _ Dear Alfred, Slow down my friend! I am sure Gabe has not refered to the Rachol Seminary. He has very clearly mentioned Raia seminary. Now Raia and Rachol are definitely two different villages and should not be confused. And incidentally, there is the SVD seminary in Raia, which is very well known for its quality distillation of good old Caju Feni! best, salus
[Goanet]CAR FROM SCRAP COMPONENTS
Fred's news reported: STUDENTS BUILD SPORTS CAR FROM SCRAP COMPONENTS: Final year students of the Institute of Ship- building Technology, Vasco have built a sports car M-796 GT by using scrap components of various cars, as part of their final year project. It took 16 weeks for the students to build the car, costing Rs 42,950. __ my comments: From this we can conclude that the business of scrap must be great in Goa!!! Wake up young goans. Open up scrap yards in a hurry. Take over this lucarative business currently dominated by non Goans. There seems to be a lot of money in scrap. cheers salus
[Goanet]teaching music
Orlando wrote: This is Orlando calling .I am teachin Solfeggio at Kala Academy,Goa.The book followed is Singing Exercises by A. Lavignac.Incidentally it is the same book I learnt the 3 R's of music from,decades ago.An urgent need is felt to upgrade the Solfeggio syllabus in Kala Academy.I have found out there are other (and in a way easy) methods of teaching basics of music,though I have not,as yet, found a proper and systhematic text book for the same.I would be extremely indebted to anyone wiling to help so that music making (and teaching this fine art)will be a joyous art. I wish to express my thanks for your time and am loking forward to receive help in any manner whatsoever. __ Hello Orlando, click on this link for more information: http://www.vocalist.org.uk/solfege_books.html Happy surfing and best of luck. salus
[Goanet]liberated by the army!
Gabriel de Figueredo wrote: Goa has not been liberated at all, the way the Indian Armed Forces have behaved so far. All they appear to want to do is to crush the Goan spirit, and to brainwash its people, by force if need be. You may not have experienced their attitudes to civilians first hand - I have, on two occasions, both when I was a teen: once in 1967, then in 1973. __ Very true indeed. I remember an instance when I parked on the road by the side of the military establishment near the Collectorate in Panjim. I was approached by a thuggish looking creep armed with rifle and ordered to move away from where I parked. I was very firm and told him that I was on public road, over which they had no hold or authority. I attempted to report this to the Panjim Police station, but was directed to make the complaint to the PMC instead. Disgusted, I just gave up as I felt I was being handballed, and that nobody wanted to interfere with the military. The army has no respect for the people of Goa, and have proved it time and again. Take for example the case of the Merces spring. This was a lovely spring where all of us used to go for a bath on hot days when we were young. Today the spring is contaminated and stinks foul. The army has put up septic tanks right over the source of the spring, and no one seems to care. The people of Merces have tried their best, but looks like it has all fallen on deaf ears. I am not sure of the present status as I have been out of touch with the subject for some time. But the fact remains as Gabriel rightly pointed out. The army considers Goa as their spoils of war. salus
[Goanet]National Association for the Blind
Sandra Gordon wrote: I would be interested to learn more about the Goan branch of the National Association for the Blind, as mentioned in the Goa Net News Bytes (11 July 2005) The reason I ask is because I work for a local charity working with blind adults and children here in Scotland, and I would be most interested to communicate with a similar organisation in Goa, and find out what services they offer the blind population in Goa. Would you have an address or an e-mail address where I could write to them. Your help would be most appreciated. ___ Sandra: I am not sure they have an email address, but the mailing address is: National Association for the Blind, Govt. Primary School premises, Segundo Bairo, Santa Cruz, Ilhas Goa 403 005 _INDIA_ Hope this is of help salus
[Goanet]Damaneses and Diuenses? Linguistically correct?
Cecil wrote: Damaneses and Diuenses? Linguistically correct? __ How about the original Goemcar Damaocar Diucar ??? cheers! salus
[Goanet]economic migrant
Gabe Menezes wrote: In my opinion Mario was an economic migrant. _ Well Gabe, the subject and issue aside, I firmly believe that every Goan who is out of Goa is an economic migrant, and that includes you, whether you say or believe otherwise. Its no shame. cheers! salus
Re: [Goanet]One more Goan Bishop!
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 17:49:04 +1000 (EST) From: Gabriel de Figueiredo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]One more Goan Bishop! To: goanet@goanet.org Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org --- Salus Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He appointed Fr. Anthony Alwyn Fernandes Barreto of the clergy of Poona, pastor of the parish of the Immaculate Conception in Vengurla, as bishop of the new diocese. The bishop-elect was born in Goa-Damao, India in 1952 and ordained a priest in 1979. The statement re place of birth is incorrect, as in 1952, Goa-Damao was not in the Republic of India, but was the then-called Estado da India Portuguesa. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo. Melbourne - Australia. __ Gabriel, Maybe what you say is right, but all I did was to quote from the Vatican News Service, word for word. Secondly, I dont think it is relevant at all. Goa has been and always will be a part of the Indian subcontinent. best! Salus
[Goanet]One more Goan Bishop!
News from the Vatican: VATICAN CITY, JUL 5, 2005 (VIS) - The Holy Father erected the diocese of Sindhudurg (area 21,099, population 5,365,706, Catholics 29,794, priests 31, religious 98), India, with territory taken from the diocese of Poona, making it a suffragan of metropolitan church of Bombay. He appointed Fr. Anthony Alwyn Fernandes Barreto of the clergy of Poona, pastor of the parish of the Immaculate Conception in Vengurla, as bishop of the new diocese. The bishop-elect was born in Goa-Damao, India in 1952 and ordained a priest in 1979. ECE:NER/.../FERNANDES VIS 050705 (90)
[Goanet]Footprints
Cynthia wrote: One night I dreamed a dream. As I was walking along the beach with my Lord. Across the dark sky flashed scenes from my life. ___ Dear Cynthia, For some time you have been putting up some inspiring posts like the above on Goanet, which I am sure a lot of the readers enjoy, while some have been complaining too. The important issue here is that you are not giving due credits to the authors, poets or writers. And that is not right at all. Please ensure that whenever you post someone else's work, you must give the person credit. Sometimes some work is covered by a copyright, and you can get Goanet in a mess if you do not have permission to reprint in such cases. For your information, and for the information of Goanet readers, Footprints was written by Margaret Fishback Powers in 1964, and she holds the copyright to her works. Her publishers are HarperCollins Publishers [Australia] Pty Limited Group. She has also authored a book bearing the same name in 1993.
[Goanet]Getaways for Women
Cecil wrote: In my fledgling writing career I have been inspired by many incidents. The photo of Silviano being interviewed by the gorgeous Raquel Carvalho (at http://www.goanet.org) is one such inspiring image. To be so close to such a delectable creature is indeed something to aspire for. I have now decided that I too will write a novel just so I can feature on Getaways for Women? _ Keep trying Cecil. At least we can be sure the novel will be a good one, worth reading. As far as the reward you are hoping for, its good to live in hope and not die in despair! Maybe your luck will finally run true!
[Goanet]The book of Common Prayer
Once again, Cecil has done it! And this time as the 'Virtual Biblical Scholar' he has continued to impress! Well done Cecil, good research there. The book of Common Prayer is indeed a well that one can go to. There is one point though - about the Catholics using an Anglican book. Well, that is a very good sign, isn't it? Today the churches are all moving towards unity, and use the best of each other for the common goal of praising our God. Here in our parish we used Anglican material for our lenten scripture groups, and it was very inspiring indeed. We also have ecumenical meetings where all the churches [say many of them!] get together now and then for a common day of worship and praise. The good thing is that the Catholic Church has taken the intiative, and hopefully the day will come when the churches will be united once again. salus
[Goanet]Black African Arch Bishop who messmerizes people at his mass.
Milad Meah Meah wrote... Hi, Goans. Here is a topic I would like to know more about. There is a Black African Arch Bishop who messmerizes people at his mass. Casts out devil, cures possessed people.(Ask the packed audience daily at his Mass) Lives in the atic above the Pope's bedroom. Yet kept under observation, and not sent to Africa for the last 20 years. What are the Vatican affraid of? A Blace African?... ___ Dear Milad, First and foremost, are you a Goan? And what is your game? I would like to know your motives behind this posting. I only hope you are not trying to start another sad string of Catholic bashing on this forum. For starters, the little you got about Archbishop Milingo happens to be wrong. This African prelate was the unfortunate victim of the Rev Moon, and the story happens to be of the year 2001 (20 years according to you!)when he was married to a certain Maria Sung. It did not take long for the poor man to realise what he had done, and then he went into counselling for help. Some claimed that during this period he was being hidden in the Vatican, but it is not so. The last posted news on this subject was posted on the Archbishop's website on the 29th of Ausgust 2001. It only goes to prove the fact that anyone, however strong one's faith may be, could be a victim of the designs of the evil one. But the good news is that salvation is open to all who repent, and His grace Archbishop Milingo happens to have done exactly that. If you want details about such matters, please do not waste the time of Goanetters on this forum. Just go to google and type your querry there. To make your job easier, click on this link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1491252.stm Coming back to the first line I wrote, what are you up to? A coward who does not want to be recognised on this forum of Goencars, you shame us all. So how about standing up for the truth for once, and tell us who you really are. Truthfully of course! Cheers! salus [niz Goencar in Melbourne]
[Goanet]Migration: Opportunities for children or wanderlust
Among other things, Cecil wrote: I have heard stories of qualified professionals in Australia (and elsewhere) doing menial jobs as there are no job opportunities in their particular field. Isn't that then a waste of an education? Not to say the problem does not exist in India, but we do admit to it... ___ Well Cecil,you too have written well, but then that's what you always do, much to the delight of Goans who read Goanet! What you said above is true. But you have to remember that it applies to you and me who think of migrating with their grey hairs on! It is difficult as you rightly said, for qualified professionals who migrate, to get job opportunities in their particular field. But that is not the case with the young ones who live and qualify here. Somehow there is a problem with us getting jobs in our field, however highly qualified we may be. But the kids start right away, and that makes the difference. The young ones have open doors in any careers of their choice in this country. You also spoke about education and careers in detail. Well, I do believe that one needs a good educational background for any career of choice. While there are lots of career opportunities in India, we still hear of many companies showing preference to overseas qualified candidates as compared to the local ones. This is not something new anyway. Even in our time, we used to envy the foreign returned blokes to took over [talk of Harvard etc!!] And we cannot deny the fact that this area is still lacking in many respects in amchem Goem. Maybe with time, things will change and our grandchildren or great grandchildren will be the beneficiaries. But for now, the overseas options seems to be better for the children. For your information, when i first landed here in melbourne 5 years ago, it was very difficult for me to start in my field of expertise. I just could not get anywhere and drew a blank wall wherever I tried. It was very frustrating. Here employers seek local expererience, and without that it is difficult. I do know of guys making it in their lines of expertise, but many including me did not. Out of desperation I took on a job in a factory in order to survive with my family. There were lots of fears, and fear can drive one to the wall. But guess what? I enjoyed coming home after the first day at work. I could just put my feet up, and relax without any work stress whatsoever!!! That was a great feeling, so much so, that I decided that I would do just that for some time! After a year, I decided that I wanted to continue in this new line, but realized that I would not have the energy to continue at the pace I was on. So the next step I took was to qualify myself locally, after which I got a promotion and I am very happy now in the Automobile manufacturing industry. I am relaxed at work, and there is no stress as compared to the time when I spent about 17 years dedicated to Purchasing followed by the manufacture of Linda's Bebinca in Goa! And the cycle continues. Right now I have a qualified dentist on my assembly line. Two months ago I had a young guy from Tamil Nadu who had a masters in Engineering, but like me could not get an entry. He worked with me for about eight months, but now managed to get a very good job in his line with a Telephone provider here, and is very happy with his success. So you see, it is a matter of choices, and not a matter of running down Goa or wanderlust as some may think. The benefits are there too. We do afford more, live better than we ever did, but then that comes with the package I suppose! And at the core of that big package lies a lot of hard work!
[Goanet]Migration: Opportunities for children or wanderlust
Cecil wrote: Just for the sake of friendly debate, which will perhaps leave all of us better informed, could you qualify the statement that you made of your children having an advantage of choice as far as choice of careers go.. __ Just have a go at any of the Australian Universities, and see the choice for yourself. And mind you, you do not need a grand distinction to gain entry, and mind you, these are very good centers of learning, far better than what is on offer in Goa. click here for more details: http://www.unimelb.edu.au/ http://www.latrobe.edu.au/ http://www.rmit.edu.au/ http://www.swin.edu.au/ http://www.monash.edu.au/ http://www.deakin.edu.au/ Now these are only a few universities in a small place like Melbourne. Go through the sites and see what is there on offer. Besides university degrees, there are also options of courses like TAFE etc., and like I said earlier, our children do have a better advantage as far as choice of careers go. If we were in Goa, we only had Goa University, and I do not have to say more. By the way, Goa is also bigger than Melbourne. So the question of choice is far bigger than you can imagine. I do not want to let our beloved Goa down, but sometimes we do need to make hard decisions for the sake of our loved ones. We were doing well in Goa, and were very comfortable, but had to leave it all behind for the sake of our children. Mind you, it did hurt a lot making that decision, but we just had to do it, and today we know we did not make a mistake. I agree that education here is very costly as compared to Goa, but there are Government subsidies to enable the young ones to afford whatever they need by way of education, and payback is slow on low interest terms, mainly deducted off your income, based on your income earned, when you earn it. In Goa, we have to rely on the banks, and I need not go into those details now. Incidentally, there are scores of Indian students including Goans ones studying independantly in Universities over here. Many opt to stay on after completion of their courses, but still many do opt to return to India, and I am not surprised with their decision in that regard. If my children decide to return to India, they will have my support too, in that decision. Your friend may have had different reasons for his migration, but then we all have our own very reasons too. For some it may be wanderlust, but not for all. By the way, I still love my Goa, and care a lot about what is going on there. Nothing can change or diminish the Goa that is in my heart. best, salus
[Goanet]parcels sent abroad
Cecil Pinto wrote: Does anyone know why parcels sent abroad have to be compulsorily covered... Once upon a time, that was the most secure way of ensuring the parcel arrived at the destination safely. I am not sure where it originated, but the reason was because insurance companies began to hold the postal dept liable for loss of contents in insured parcels, and to ensure that they were in the clear, the postal authorities decided to make the customer pay for the extra packing so that the parcels arrived safely at the destination, and they did not have to hassle of dealing with the insurance companies. Things have changed nowadays. The post office underwrites insurance of the parcels themselves, and in most countries the use of cloth packing has been swapped for strong lined paper packing instead. Heree in Australia the post offices sell special boxes for mailing purposes, and they are safe. They come in different sizes - even tiny ones to mail a cd by post safely. This looks like a case of blindly following an old practice without checking the merits in todays changed circumstances,.
[Goanet]Home is where the heart is
Cecil wrote: Over the last few weeks I have seen Goans settled in UK, Canada, USA and Australia compare the advantages and disadvantages of their adopted countries. After having examined all possibilities I have decided that we are in fact better off here at home in Goa, India. There's no place like home. Cecil, you are very right. There is definitely no place like good old Amchem Goem!!! We all have our reasons for being out of Goa, but it is foolishness to even compare Goa with any place on earth. And importantly, nothing can wipe away the Goa which is deep in our hearts. Thanks for staying on in Goa. Please keep it well and enjoy yourself. I envy you! We may have a different lifestyle, clothes, houses, and our children may have the advantage of choice as far as their careers go, but you have GOA!!!
[Goanet]Besides, Dol Mojea Bai, What else you remember??
Joeboyuk wrote: Besides, Dol Mojea Bai, What else you remember?? ___ my spellings are not very good, but this is what the old grandmothers used to sing to babies when they cried! Bobhe bobhe thathachem, Korguttamchem bhathachem Rhoss asa pun ghodd nam Posrear vochunk konn nam!
[Goanet]Konkani dictionary
Silviano Barbosa wrote: Please hire a good Konkani editor/speller/pronounciator or whatever you call him/her, before the print version is published. Most of your buyers of the print version will be overseas Konkannis anyway and it will be a sell-out in no time. A very laudable effort indeed from everyone involved , especially the Magalorean Community for having given us this MEGA GIFT compilation of this free electronic version. Like true NIZ Konknni mogui, you guys just don't talk about it, but you have really DONE IT! Mhojim Porbim Tumkam! Konknnichen nanv VHODD zaunv! Salu Soz tuji vakhanni korunk mhoji urbha choddtta! __ I echo what Silviano wrote. Well done Ancy, congratulations to all who were involved in this mighty project. I found the dictionary very useful and a great help especially when I am desperate for a word. No longer can I say 'its on the tip of my tongue'!!! Silviano, I think the spellings and pronounciation are very accurate, considering they have used the Manglorean dialect of Konkani, which is different from the ones used in Salcette and Bardez, or for that matter the whole of Goa. I have been a few times to Mangalore myself, and initially found it very difficult to understand the pronounciations they used. But as I got to know the people well, I began to appreciate and accept it as their way of speaking, and then found nothing wrong with it. The important thing to think about is that our Manglorean brethren have preserved and treasured the language over the years, though far away from Goa, and have also worked at furthering it more than we Goans have done so far. So Ancy, once again my congratulations to you and all the Manglorean brethren who have contributed to this huge project! Well done.
[Goanet]Pray for me, I have sinned
Marlon wrote: I think the following lyrics by Gowan from his 80's hit A Criminal Mind are an apt response to your prayers for me... __ Not apt enough my friend. But you will still remain in my prayers! best, salus
[Goanet]Pray for me, for I have sinned
Marlon wrote: Hold it right there Cecil! I believe I am a bigger sinner than you, Kevin and Santosh and therefore request that I be given priority in Salus' prayer allotment. Given the number of character assassinations, email hijackings, server hackings, mail bombings and identity impersonations I have been involved in, I think I am pretty much right up there in my cyber mortal sin count. I confess I am also guilty of arson thanks to the numerous flame wars I have started, not to mention mention the numerous drownings thanks to the flood of email spam I have sent various of my unfortunate victims. Salus, can you provide me with details on the type and number of prayers you plan to perform for me? I would like to have it for my records. If I get sent down there, I can use this as evidence to strengthen my case to god that you brayed for me. Do not let me down or should I say, do not let me go down - or else. _ I think Marlon is making a confession to the wrong person here. Marlon, if you are truly guilty of all the so called sins mentioned by you, then you must have remorse for the wrongs you have done, and the next step would be to approach the concerned authorities and make a confession. As to prayers, I will definitely include you among others in my prayers. May God bless you and forgive you if you are really sincere.
[Goanet]Re: Unchrisitan
Kevin Saldanha wrote: Dear Salus and all his Christian friends, One quote that sticks in my head from Eckhart Tolle's book - The Power of Now - is You have found God the moment you realise that you no longer need to seek him on page 147. I have! The God he refers to is an internal peace rather than an external supernatural deity. I would appreciate you NOT intervening on my behalf with any of your supernatural deities unless it makes you feel better, in which case you would be praying for yourself. __ Thanks Kevin, glad you are happy with your beliefs. I have no quarrel with you on that account. You are a free agent, free to do what you please, or believe what you want. As far as para #2 goes, Goanet is an open forum for members to voice their opinions. So for your information, I have not intervened on your behalf. I do appreciate and understand your capabilities on that account. As far as praying for others go, NO ONE can stop me or others from praying for your well being and conversion to the TRUTH as we believe it. So starting now, I have begun praying for you, and this is a clarion call to all other like minded Goanetters to do the same.
[Goanet]Unchristian
Afra says: May be coz u r Christian u took it as anti, it was anti Religion. Any one who goes to god or gods, does so out of desperation. 1. They cannot control the situation they are in. Therefore they are control freaks (like it or not) 2. They go to god coz s/he does not say things against you, secondly coz the people in this world have failed your expectations, therefore u ask the gods to interfere on your behalf. (again to gain control) Those who go to god are either control freaks (priests/pundits/mullhas etc.) or frustrated control freaks (ordinary people who could not gain control by fair means or foul). __ Afra has been known to write crap on this forum before. In fact jc has just brought out some of her 'tosh'!!! We who have faith, do so because we have met our Saviour, and not for any of the reasons that Afra mentions. Is she or does she think she is an authority on every subject? Or is this just a case of sensationalisation, seeking attention? I just wonder! All I can say is that we need to hold her and other like minded persons in our prayers, so that they may be enlightened some day. Each one's faith or belief is their own personal thing, and no one has tried to impose it on Afra or anyone else. So I fail to understand the acidity in her thoughts against those who believe. Maybe it was her lack of faith and total trust in God that has led her to think that God had failed her. Well, lets all say a prayer for her. And finally I wont be surprised if someone else rises to her rescue! Well we will pray for those persons too!!! And finally, please understand that you do not have to respond and always have the last word!
[Goanet]Gaddo and bullock cart
Jerry Fernandes wrote: I smell humour in your confusion. Gaddo and bullock cart are one and the same, and I too have ridden along with our friends when we were kids but not on long journeys as Peter did, but only in our village. The best part of it was learning some lovely words when the captain of the gaddo used to whip the poor _cows...___ _Hey Jerry, bull's eye on the first line. remember : eerri eeri jho. vhoah! jho jho!!! followed by the traditional portugoan obsenities by some captains. And by the way, BULLS mate, not poor cows!
[Goanet]SANT ANTON ANJE, PAUS GHAL SANJE
Victor Rangel-Ribeiro wrote: SANT ANTON ANJE, PAUS GHAL SANJE In my day (late 1920s) the children in Porvorim would carry stones on their head, singing Sant' Anton, man'chea bettan Paus gall amchea shetan. __ in my village it went: Sant Anton virgo, Iscolacho burgo! Dev Saiba paus dhi!!!
[Goanet]Santa Claus and white lies
Kevin Saldanha wrote: Kids are getting smarter and smarter every generation and what worked for our generations may not work for theirs when they get their information from so many other sources than their parents... _ Yes, unfortunately it was our generation that was weak and we have strayed away from the faith. Good news Kevin: like you said above, kids have seen through it all and now today they are slowly getting back into the Church, that too without our help!!!
[Goanet]Dear 'Whoever you are',
Afra Dias wrote: Dear 'Whoever you are', Typing in Bold letters in itself tells me that u r Psychologically Traumatised and deserved every bit u got. You are still not mentally OK. You went to Jesus coz he does not shout back at you while the others on earth DO... please, thats not in good taste.
[Goanet]Gaonkar
Afra Dias wrote: Dear Goencars, What Jose Colaco is saying is absolute 'tosh'. Gaonkar in English means Citzenship - not of the country, but of the village s/he is born. What right has a foreigner like Jose Colaco got to come to our village and tell us what we should do with their ancestral property which our grandfathers acquired by working on the ships etc? Reading Afra'a views got me thinking... Would Afra let me know where she has property in Goa, and if she is willing to give it to me for free Wouldn't that be just great? Thank you Afra, you are so kind, and so generous. Just let me know when you manage to effect the transfer of title etc!!!
[Goanet]Goanet Reader -- Looking back at the simple, slow-moving Goa
peter fernandes wrote: I have traveled in all the types of transport mentioned; the bullock cart, and the gaddo. My grandmother had to go for a feast from Parra to Aldona and we hired a gaddo to take us there . We started early as we had to reach the... __ I am confused, poor me! Please, someone please tell me what is the difference between the 'bullock cart' and the 'gaddo'!!!
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[Goanet]Everything has a limit
Bonefacio Lopes wrote ...Salus correia starts his note SUNIL/AVERTANO WHOEVER YOU REALLY ARE, didn't your folks teach you how to address people. No one on the net is whoever Mr. salus its very important you show respect towards each other while addressing... I have every respect for every one everywhere, but when someone has an address with one name and signs off with another name, well that is surely confusing. There have been so many instances in the past where people post on Goanet using false ids etc, and the post in question made me think this was another such case! And I definitely had no intention of disrespecting anyone. And if someone has felt disrespected, here are my apologies. Cheers Salus
[Goanet]Re: False assertions
Fr. Ivo wrote: ... Let us respect those who believe that there is no God, as well as those who believe, with Reason enriched by Faith, that God is our Creator and loving Father Well said Fr. Ivo! I couldn't have said it better!! Cheers salus
[Goanet]CATHOLIC ???
sunil/avertano wrote... Message: 19 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:51:17 -0400 From: avertano teles goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]CATHOLIC ??? Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org I have been reading a lot about the POPE, GAY PRIESTS, CAFETARIA CATHOLICS, WOMEN AS PRIESTS, RECENTLY ABOUT THE SIGN OF PEACE IN THE CHURCH. and we should expect more of such stuff on net. Why should catholic related issues only be discussed ? Is our mentality confined only in questioning catholic religion and its principles? Can someone enlighten us whether communities from other religion discuss such issues the way we discuss pertaining to religion ? Let's go in for a change of topic pleasee. Sunil __ Come on Sunil or Avertano or whoever you really are! Be proactive and write about something else. Start another thread, and go on from there. But please do not tell people not to write on a particular subject/topic. If someone has something to say, this is their forum to do so. Have you given a thought that there may be many who actually want to read on subjects pertaining to religion? Cheers! Salus
[Goanet]Is it ethical to buy second hand clothes that were sent as aid?
Cecil wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 21:05:22 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Is it ethical to buy second hand clothes that were sent as aid? Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org The 'purumentachem' (hope I got that right!) fair is on in Panjim. Basically a fair to buy provisions for the monsoons. Of course like every previous year the actual 'provision' hawkers are few and what is being sold is the regular knickknacks available at all fairs. What struck me as curious this year is the sheer number of hawkers selling 'aid' clothes*... _ *The amount of clothes collected here in Australia itself was so much that it would have been just too much to give away to the tsunami affected people, who needed other things besides clothes, which happen to be the easiest things to part with. So the surplus clothes are auctioned off to the highest bidder, and the money so collected is then utilized where most needed. Hope this explanation would help your conscience. You have done nothing unethical. Indirectly, you may have actually helped some of the tsunami affected people with your purchase. Cheers!
[Goanet]Goanet digest, Vol 1 #2169
Sad news about the deaths resulting from trees being uprooted etc. But since when has there been a tree big enough to be uprooted and crash on somebody on the road near 4 pillars?? Beats me!! I was visiting in Goa a couple of years ago, and recollect the area near 4 pillars as an area surrounded by unsown paddy fields, and wetlands. Its time reporters take pains to report the correct news in the press, with accurate details. *.*3 persons were crushed to death when two trees fell on them in a separate incident. Kevin Fernandes 26, of Vasco died at Merces when coconut tree fell on him. Other 2 both 19, from St.Inez and porvorim, died when tree uprooted and came crushing down on them when they were passing by on their motorcycle near 4 Pillars, panaji. GT*.*
[Goanet]Goan Picnic Songs FAQs
-- | 3rd Annual Konkan Fruit Fest, Goa - May 6-8, 2005| || | Today's Events include Fruit Carving - Decor - Watermelon eating | |Fancy Dress.Check out http://konkanfruit.swiki.net | -- Cecil wrote: Message: 2 Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:43:21 +0530 From: Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Goan Picnic Songs FAQs Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org I will attempt to publicly answer a few private queries/comments for the benefit of everyone. Q #1 Incidentally, I believe that the chorus is a parody of Mexican or pseudo-Mexican songs, like La Cucaracha or South of the Border, and so should be spelled Ay ay ay ay That's another fantastic gem of writing! Well done Cecil!!! --- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- Make your mother in Goa happy on Mothers' Day. http://www.goa-world.com/goa/expressions/mothersday/ Limited Mother's Happiness packages. First come, first serve. ---
[Goanet]Re: John Paul II
Well George, you are free like everyone else to your opinions. Personally I think you do not know much of the Catholic faith from what you have written. The Church is not a club with open membership and is not a democracy either. One has to acknowledge Jesus as the Lord and Master of our lives to qualify for membership, which incidentally is 'confirmed' as some point in time. Sadly, there are millions of so called confirmed catholics who have for reasons sometimes even not known to them, turned the other way, yet remain or prefer to be known as Catholics. Right from the time of Jesus the church has been run by 'direction'. The faithfull have the right to advise, suggest and talk, but we have to always remember that unlike a club or some governments, it is not a democracy. If our views are not accepted, we can always negotiate via the proper channels and not via the media. If eventually our thoughts are not accepted for whatever reason, then in all obedience we have to accept the 'direction' that we must believe comes from God himself, through his appointed shephards. Sometimes we do not know or see the bigger picture as God sees it. Eventually with time it unfolds and then we realise the whats and whys. If we want to be known as followers of Jesus, then it does make sense that we follow the directions as they come. John Paul II has done his time here on earth and it is not up to you, me or anyone else but the Father in heaven to sit in judgement. And as far as his call for sainthood goes, just because some people or groups are making the call, does not mean that the call will be accepted. Once again we must believe that whatever happens, will be so by divine 'direction' and nothing else. Thousands have been touched by John Paul II and that is their way of saying 'THANK YOU' I suppose. Like I said earlier, this is my opinion, and I have no intention of forcing my views down on you or any one else.
[Goanet]THE DEATH CERTIFICATE OF HIS HOLINESS JOHN PAUL II
VATICAN INFORMATION SERVICE SALA STAMPA DELLA SANTA SEDE - OFICINA DE PRENSA DE LA SANTA SEDE BUREAU DE PRESSE DU SAINT- SIÈGE - PRESSEAMT DES HEILIGEN STUHLS HOLY SEE PRESS OFFICE V.I.S. VIS internet Search Documents Receive VIS Press Office 04.04.2005 Fifteenth Year - N.63 SUMMARY: - THE DEATH CERTIFICATE OF HIS HOLINESS JOHN PAUL II - JOHN PAUL'S FUNERAL IS APRIL 8, BURIAL IN ST. PETER'S BASILICA - NOTICES FROM GOVERNORATE OF VATICAN CITY, PRESS OFFICE - OFFICE OF CAMERLENGO DATES TO 12TH CENTURY ___ THE DEATH CERTIFICATE OF HIS HOLINESS JOHN PAUL II VATICAN CITY, APR 4, 2005 (VIS) - Following is the official death certificate for Pope John Paul II, released yesterday by the Holy See Press Office: I certify that His Holiness John Paul II (Karol Wojtyla) born in Wadowice (Krakow, Poland) on May 18, 1920, residing in Vatican City, and a Vatican citizen, died at 9:37 p.m. on April 2, 2005 in his apartment in the Apostolic Palace, Vatican City because of: - septic shock. - irreversible cardio-circulatory collapse. In a person also affected by: - Parkinson's disease. - progressive episodes of acute respiratory insufficiency and a consequent tracheotomy. - benign prostate hypertrophy complicated by urosepsis. - hypertensive cardiopathy and ischemia. The ascertainment of death was effected by means of an electrocardiogram which lasted 20 minutes. I declare that the causes of death, according to my science and conscience, are those indicated above. Vatican City, April 2, 2005 Director of Health and Hygiene of Vatican City State Dr. Renato Buzzonetti .../POPE:DEATH CERTIFICATE/...VIS 050404 (170) JOHN PAUL'S FUNERAL IS APRIL 8, BURIAL IN ST. PETER'S BASILICA VATICAN CITY, APR 4, 2005 (VIS) - At the end of the morning, Holy See Press Office Director Joaquin Navarro-Valls held a briefing in the Holy See Press Office for accredited journalists on the following questions: First and Second General Congregations of the Cardinals. The first two General Congregations of the Cardinals in the period of Vacant See were held this morning in the Bologna Room of the Vatican Apostolic Palace according to the norms of the Apostolic Constitution Universi Dominici gregis (UDG). Sixty-five cardinals took part in the First Congregation which began at 10 a.m. They swore an oath according to para 12 of UDG. In the second General Congregation, the 65 cardinals present made the most urgent decisions, including the mode of transferring the body of the deceased pontiff to the Vatican Basilica, and the date of the funeral Mass for John Paul II. Also present at this morning's General Congregations were Archbishops Leonardo Sandri, substitute at the Secretariat of State, Francesco Monterisi, the secretary of the College of Cardinals, and Piero Marini, master of papal liturgical ceremonies, and several ceremonial assistants. Transfer of the body of John Paul II. At 5 p.m. today, Monday April 4, the body of John Paul II will be moved from the Clementine Hall to the Vatican Basilica. After a moment of prayer presided over by Cardinal Camerlengo Eduardo Martinez Somalo, the transfer of the body will begin. The procession will proceed along the Scala Nobile, the First Loggia, the Sala Ducale, the Sala Regia, the Scala Regia and then, coming through the Bronze Door, it will cross St Peter's Square and enter the basilica by the central doors. In the Vatican Basilica, the Cardinal Camerlengo will preside at the Liturgy of the Word. The visits of the faithful can begin at around 8 p.m. For today it has been decided that the Vatican Basilica will remain open all night. It will close only from 2 a.m. to 5 a.m. in order to allow for the technical maintenance of the basilica. Funeral Mass for John Paul II. The funeral Mass for John Paul II will be celebrated on Friday, April 8 at 10 a.m. in St. Peter's Square. The funeral liturgy will be celebrated by the cardinals and the patriarchs of the Oriental Churches. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, dean of the College of Cardinals, will preside. At the end of the liturgy, the casket of the Roman Pontiff will be brought into the Vatican Basilica and then into the Vatican Grottoes for burial. Navarro-Valls noted that the body of John Paul II will rest in the same place where Blessed Pope John XXIII was entombed. The remains of the this Pope, who died in 1963,
[Goanet]Re: airfields
Gilbert, Your mails do make interesting reading, and with your naval background etc its nice to learn a few things now and then. Refering to your response to Gabriel, I had in the past gathered from the various posts on Dabolim, that the airport in question was somehow usurped off the people of Goa. And now in your post you make mention that The facility (Juhu) doesnt even belong to the Ministry of Defence The question here is, does Dabolim 'belong' to the Navy? In order for Dabolim airport to 'belong' to the Navy, it has to be bought from, won over or gifted off by its rightful owners. By any chance, has that ever happened, and at what price? And if it has, where does the question of the Navy leaving Dabolim arise from? Just curious! Salus Message: 9 Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:34:50 +0530 From: gilbert menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Re: airfields Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org Gabriel , since you ask, the Juhu strip is longer than the deck of a carrier. But that was not the point. The suggestion from your friend Phillip was for Juhu to serve as substitute for the Navy which is operating an air station at Goa. You therefore need to look at the huge Navy infrastructure built up at Goa as well as the types of aircraft being operated here, most of them being non aircraft carrier types. Heres some of the types. 1.Kiran jet trainer 2.Tu-142-long range maritime patrol 3.IL-38- Long Range anti sub warfare 4. Aiforce Jaguar -Maritime strike(periodically) 5. Sea Harrier V/STOL All these types need extended runaway lengths, including the Harrier Trainer.. Besides, the Navy also operates a variety of helicopters such as the Seaking ASW, Kamov-28 ASW, Kamov-31 Air Early Warning helos, Allouettes. If you knew the basics of VTOL training, you would know that a pilot needs to be comfortable on a full length runaway, before he transitions to the very difficult VSTOL mode, used for carrier launch/recovery.. The Navy possess infrastructure to maintain , service and repair these aircraft at Goa. The Navy obviously , also has weapons for these aircraft at Goa. Then, out of the blue, comes this nonsensical suggestion about Juhu-- which has nothing on it. When I last saw it, it was being used as a staging point for ONGC helicopters used for servicing the oil offshore installations of Bombay High. The facility doesnt even belong to the Ministry Of Defence. I hope I havent gone into technicalities. btw,What *technical* function did you perform for the Brazilian Navy? How many times did you step on the deck of the carrier *Minas Gerais*? regards, Gilbert.
[Goanet]Royal announcement
If what Gabe says is true (stunning, vivacious, gorgeous} then there is definitely a dearth of real beauty in England!!! Move over to Melbourne, Gabe, and you will then learn what 'stunning, vivacious and gorgeous' really means!!! And if you want even more, just go and see the lovely lasses in Amche Goem. On the other hand, I would understand it if you had called young William 'dashing'. His father, Charles is anything but 'dashing' anymore. Salus Correia Melbourne. Message: 4 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:36:01 + From: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Gabe Prince Charles to Marry. Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org I trust you have all heard that our dashing Prince Charles is to marry the stunning, vivacious, gorgeous Mrs Camilla ...
[Goanet](no subject)
I am sure that most of the Goanet readers are already tired of the Ribandar debate. I could understand it if a sincere attempt was made by Aires Rodrigues to give us the facts, but the way he has chosen to use Goanet to meet his own personal ends surely disgusts me. I feel sick reading every post of his detailing what he has accused the priest of doing. While at no stage am I confirming or denying what the priest has done, please, do not portray him as guilty while the matter is still sub-judice. It is high time the admin team steps in and stops this so called debate because it is no longer a debate, but a mud slinging activity. If the priest is really guilty, then surely our good man Joel will give us the news off the local papers as he has faithfully been doing so far. I am sure that majority of Goanet readers will agree with my point of view on this subject. I am looking forward to a confirmation from the admin team that this so called debate has been closed with immediate effect. Frederick Noronha (FN) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone I met yesterday in Panjim said, This Ribandar debate is going on too long at Goanet. ...the general member also has a responsiblity to speak up
[Goanet]Sacrament
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I was of the impression that things were slightly different in Goa. We have what is called a civil registration, which is basically a process whereby the two people intending to get married inform/intimate the civil registrar of their intent to get married. The civil registrar then processes the application, and advertises the proposed union, calling for objections if any, within a set number of days. After this process is over, the couple has the choice of getting married before either a priest, a bhat or a judge/civil official, who in turn will pass on a confirmation to the civil registrars office that the marriage has taken place. So the couple in question are not getting married twice, but only once. In the case of an inter-religious union, then either the bhat or the priest will actually conduct the marriage. In case the couple want to go to the second religious minister, then they only get a blessing, and not a second marriage! So you see, it looks like there is some confusion between a civil registration which is done in Goa, with a civil marriage which is done elsewhere. Incidentally, the civil registration has a validity, and the marriage has to be finalised within 3 months of the registration formalities, failing which the process needs to be repeated. Message: 3 Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:53:40 +0530 From: Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Subject: [Goanet]Re: Catholic wedding: a sacrament Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This approach to the issue of marriage on the part of the Catholic has always struck me as peculiar. In case of marriages between Catholics and non-Catholics, the issue often comes up, as the Catholic half of the union tends to be very attached to the sacrament and therefore insists on it being carried out -- in addition to the civil wedding. This is peculiar, especially since 'secular' laws like the Special Marriages Act have been created specifically to enable marriages without religious trappings, and this is particularly useful to marriages between people of different religions. Else, everybody insists on carrying out what their faith prescribes, and people get married twice or even thrice. Maybe the Church needs to relook at its position and accept that 'secular' procedures are equally valid? The Christian marriage is regarded as sacrament, while the non-Christian marriage is not. This point is debatable and some Catholic theologians do not like the distinction, but it is still held.
[Goanet]Australian/Goan Catholic wedding questions
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## I beg to differ! The dates on both the church certificate and civil certificate are the same, provided the marriage was a church wedding presided over by a priest, and registered as per the current practice. I have before me both my certificates and they both bear the same date of marriage. Message: 3 Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 15:25:03 +0100 (BST) From: President\(sgpiag\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Australian/Goan Catholic wedding questions To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lawrence Rodrigues wrote: QUESTION Could somebody who has been married in Goa, please confirm whether the *date of marriage* on the Marriage certificate issued by the Civil Registrar in Goa is the same as recorded in the Church certificate, please? ANSWER The dates do differ. For that matter whether it is the Catholic Hindu or Muslim marriage the dates on the Cil Registry differ from the respective religious records. Terence Mazarelo PRESIDENT SGPIAG [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mumbai.sancharnet.in/manojnd HELPLINE 24 hrs 9822158584 Tel +91 832 2731373
[Goanet]Parallel elections on GoaNet?
Vincent This is not fair. Cecil has been contributing a lot of humour on this list for a long time now. In fact we look forward to messages from him. Cecil has kept alive the cheer and joy on the forum. Insulting him on the forum the way you did is just not fair. It is guys like you who portray Goans as lazy crabs all over the world. In the first place, we would like to know what has been your contribution to the betterment of Goa? From what I noticed via your message, you are rather unproductive, going to the extent of misusing work facilities offered to you by your employer. It is guys like you who think they are rather smart, but who cheat the company that employs them. For a change, get back to work and be productive at your job. And if you want to criticize people like Cecil, maybe you should think a hundred times before sending out such nasty messages, which anyway should be sent in your own time, from home or elsewhere, but definitely not from the workplace. Cheers! Salus ps: I wll not be responding further on this subject on this forum. Message: 5 From: Vincent Andrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Parallel elections on GoaNet? Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 14:56:26 +0530 Organization: Hiralal Co (Shipping) Pvt Ltd Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CECIL DONT BOTHER FINDING OUT DETAILS - YOU WONT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE NOR STAND FOR THE ELECTIONS - COZ MENTALLY YOU ARE UNDER 18. CHEERS VINCENT ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Monte de Guirim.
Thanks, Tony Felix for the lovely article you wrote on Monte de Guirim. It brought back memories of the short time I spent there way back in 1965-66! And even though names were not mentioned, Frs Pacificus, Ephrem, Salvador Ben came to my mind! And Bro Policarp too!! And my good friends Innocencio Caeido Altinho Gomes - wonder where they are!Those were the days, days we will never forget!~! Salus ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
[Goanet]Helmets
Hello Mervyn, Its very true as you have said. All over the world there is a conciousness for safety which is spreading, and warmly embraced. The direct result is that a lot of injuries and even deaths are avoided. I just cannot understand why our brethren in Goa are making such a big fuss about using helmets when it is in their own interest. It saddens me to read some fellows coming up with arguments like 'its our heads, or its our lives, and we know what is best for us' etc. I have just returned from a holiday in my beloved Goa, and believe me I was very sad when I saw what has happened to Goa. A huge increase in the number of vehicles, and absolutely nothing has been done to improve the infrastructure. And the drivers too have given up on following road rules. People who live in Goa have become used to this nonsense. They do not realise how bad it is. And to crown it all, now they come up with protests against implementation of rules which are in their interest. Salus Message: 9 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:04:57 -0500 (EST) From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet]Helmets To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Salus Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in Melbourne, and cyclists over here have to use helmets too. It is a good idea to use the helmets when riding on any two wheeler, motorised or not. Somehow Goans in Goa seem to be having a problem with that, and we find it hard to understand why. Safety starts with self, and I think the Government is right in putting its foot down with the helmet law. Salus, I was out skiing last week. A father and his five year old son were waiting infront of me for the next ski chair to arrive. As the chair approached, the two of them tried to move forward to the line where they needed to be to get on the chair. As they were moving forward, the five year old slipped and the ski lift swung forward at the exact same time and hit the child on the head. The child was thrown five feet with the impact. Luckly for both of them, ski helmets are compusory for kids here in Canada. Else, that ski trip could have turned into a life long disaster for the two of them. Mervyn ## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##
