[Goanet] RE: Dear Carmo.....of Bandra, Hockey and
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Now and then, hockey gets a mention on this forum. True, Bandra has a big reputation for producing hockey players both in men's and women's. Having covered hockey for many years for some of Mumbai dailies and also for The Sportstar, I can say that Bandra is to Mumbai what Sarangpur (hope I got the name right) is to Punjab. The only difference between the two places is that the Punjab village has contributed more to the Indian team than Bandra. Hockey lives in Bandra more than anywhere else in good ole Mumbai. Having been out of Mumbai for more than two decades, I assume the tribe of hockey players in Bandra continues to grow. Bandra was (is?) the home of Lusitanians, the team that brough the Goan hockey prowess to the forefront in the old days. The club's recent history is not so shinning. Nice to know Leo is still guarding his net at age 93. It was always been a pleasure to listen to him during the few times we spoke. Same goes to Johnny Pinto, the most hurt player in India's hockey history. It was always fun to discuss and compare Leo to other Goan goalkeepers just as Sacru and later Olympio. According to many observers, Leo was incomparable to the other Goans and, in fact, to many who donned India colours. I have no recollection of seeing Leo in action, but I probably saw him when I went to the games as a child with my dad. Since I didn't see Leo play, my favourite remains Laxman. I haven't seen Indian players in live action on a field after 1983, but watched the Indian team on TV at a few international tournaments. I also follow the hockey scene reading Indian papers on the web, and The Sportstat. I hope Bandra remains the nursery of Mumbai's hockey and make more contributions to the Indian team. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] re: reita faria
If the information on Reita Faria's height is right, I am surprised. Having met her when she was an intern at at GT hospital in Mumbai, she seemed much taller than 5 ft 7 1/2 inches. Need to cross-check this. eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] re: article on immigrant, and book on south asian women
This is for those who like to read on immigration crisis in US and related issues http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=E1_GRRNGQS Brains and borders Here's a book on immigrant women Dreams, Questions, Struggles: South Asian Women in Britain. Amrit Wilson. Pluto Press, $37.95 From schoolgirls to matriarchs, single mothers to extended families, and businesswomen to factory workers, the experience of Asian women in Britain today is polarised by class and religion. This book explores the lives and struggles of two generations of British Asian women to present a political account of their experiences: personal and public, individual and collective, their struggles take on power structures within the family, the community and, on occasion, the British state. -- I am not sure if this is a new book or a new edition. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] re: BBC past programmes on Goa
Mario, I know it does not matter whether Portugual recognizes the liberation of Goa or not. The post was to clarify the situation. Portuguese leaders who have visited India and everything is fine and dandy now between the two countries. See how Portugal send Aby Salem back to India to face trial? Like all colonial powers, Portugal too has been the victim of the march of democracy. Goa was a beacon for many African nations to demand independence. This in itself is a major contribution of India's take over of Goa. Eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
Re: [Goanet] Past BBC programmes on Goa
Marlon said that USA back Portugual during the Indian army's march into Goa. USA played a double role. In his memoirs, GK Galbraith has explained it all. Nehru had Kennedy's backing. However, Portuguese call on US to help them as NATO ally fell on deaf ears. Subsequent crying by Portugal was ignored by Washington. As far as I know Portugal has not offically recognized Goa's liberation. Portugal only restored diplomatic relations which were cut off after 1961. Eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] review of The DaVinci Code
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Just after I had posted my views on The DaVinci Code, afriend sent me this. I think it's from The New Yorker. eugene --- HEAVEN CAN WAIT The Da Vinci Code. by ANTHONY LANE Issue of 2006-05-29 Posted 2006-05-22 The story of The Da Vinci Code goes lik this. A dead Frenchman is found laid out on th floor of the Louvre. His final act was to carve number of bloody markings into his own flesh indicating, to the expert eye, that he wa preparing to roll in fresh herbs and sear himsel in olive oil for three minutes on each side. This however, is not the conclusion reached b Robert Langdon (Tom Hanks), a professor o symbology at Harvard, who happens to be i Paris. Questioned by Bezu Fache (Jean Reno) the investigating policeman at the scene Langdon starts rabbiting about pentacles an pagans and God knows what. But what does God know, exactly? And can He keep His mouth shut? Help arrives in the shape of Sophie Neveu (Audrey Tautou), a police cryptographer. She turns out to be the granddaughter of the deceased, and a dab hand at reversing down Paris streets in a car the size of a pissoir. This is useful, since she and Langdon are soon on the run, convinced that Fache is about to nail the professor on a murder charge-the blaming of Americans, on any pretext, being a much loved Gallic sport. Our hero, needing somebody to trust, does the same dumb thing that every fleeing innocent has done since Robert Donat in The Thirty-nine Steps. He and Sophie visit a cheery old duffer in the countryside and spill every possible bean. In this case, the duffer is Sir Leigh Teabing (Ian McKellen), who lectures them on the Emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicaea, in 325 A.D. We get a flashback to the council in question, and I must say that, though I have recited the Nicene Creed throughout my adult life, I never realized that it was originally formulated in the middle of a Beastie Boys concert. Fache is not the only hunter on Langdon's scent. There is also Silas (Paul Bettany), a cowled albino monk whose hobbies include self-flagellation, multiple homicide, and irregular Latin verbs. He works for Opus Dei, the Catholic organization so intensely secretive that its American headquarters are tucked away in a seventeen-story building on Lexington Avenue. Silas answers to Bishop Aringarosa (Alfred Molina), who in turn answers to his cell phone, his Creator, and not much else. Between them, they track Langdon and Sophie to England, where a new villain, hitherto suspected by nobody except the audience, is prevented from shooting his quarry because, unusual for London, there is a gaggle of nuns in the way-God's Work if ever I saw it, although I wouldn't say so to a member of Opus Dei. The task of the Bishop and his hit man is to thwart the unveiling of what Teabing modestly calls the greatest secret in modern history, so powerful that, if revealed, it would devastate the very foundations of Christianity. Later, realizing that this sounds a little meek and mild, he stretches it to the greatest coverup in human history. As a rule, you should beware of any movie in which characters utter lines of dialogue whose proper place is on the advertising poster. (Just imagine Sigourney Weaver, halfway through Alien, turning to John Hurt and explaining, In space, no one can hear you scream.) There is a nasty sense in The Da Vinci Code that, not unlike Langdon, we are being bullied into taking its pronouncements at face value. Such nagging has a double effect. First, any chance to enjoy the proceedings as hokum-as a whip-cracking quest along the lines of Raiders of the Lost Ark-is rapidly stifled and stilled. Second, one's natural reaction to arm-twisters of any description is to wriggle free, turn around, and kick them in the pentacles. So here goes. There has been much debate over Dan Brown's novel ever since it was published, in 2003, but no question has been more contentious than this: if a person of sound mind begins reading the book at ten o'clock in the morning, at what time will he or she come to the realization that it is unmitigated junk? The answer, in my case, was 10:00.03, shortly after I read the opening sentence: Renowned curator Jacques Saunière staggered through the vaulted archway of the museum's Grand Gallery. With that one word, renowned, Brown proves that he hails from the school of elbow-joggers-nervy, worrisome authors who can't stop shoving us along with jabs of information
[Goanet] link to award-winning story
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- A friend in Canada won the second prize in the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's short story contest. Here's the link www.enroutemag.com/e/cbclitawards2006/happiness_a.html eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] re: immigration
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- There's been a lot of debate over immigration -- local and foreign. As the US is in the midst of a crisis and Canada under the Conservative Stephen Harper is also turning into anti-minority, immigration is come under fire from the right-wing forces. Europe too has seen its share of troubles. Though the US periodically breaks into mayhem over immigration, Canada and Australia see the issue to the forefront periodically. On the issue of a Toronto-based Tamil group banned for its alleged terrorist links by the Canadian government and the subsequest debate if the new government is anti-immigrant, here's one quote from a Canadian list. --Giacomo Cardinal Biffi, archbishop of Bologna, who created a stir on September 12, 2000, by writing that: The criteria for admitting immigrants can never be just economic. It is necessary to concern oneself seriously with saving the nation's own identity. Italy is not a deserted land, without history, without living and vital traditions, without an unmistakable cultural and spiritual physiognomy, to be populated indiscriminately, as if it were not a model legacy of humanism and culture that must not be allowed to disappear. -- I believe the bishop was talking of the period when the wave of new immigrants was threatening Italy. The quote's logic has been applied to keep out those immigrants who do not fall into the category of cultural ethos. Many in Goa feel that outsiders coming to settle in Goa do not fall into the Goan cultural and social mix. There's no doubt the indiscrimination on colour, race and ethnicity prevails subtly in Canada, the ethnics have made lot of progress. The battle for equality continues to be fought in the corridors of power and academia. Indo-Canadians have been one of the groups in the forefront of this struggle. To the new Conservative government's credit, a public enquiry has been ordered into the Air India crash. The ousted Liberals and before that the Mulroney government had not found it necessary to set up a commission. The Harpen government have may scored a major political point in gaining support from the Indo-Canadians, who form part of the minority community. Among the South Asians in Toronto, the Tamils (most of them from Sri Lanka) were close to overcoming the Sikhs in terms of population. eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] RE: The Da Vince Code (Hightlights)- The Mind only .....
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Saw the film yesterday and found it drab in content. However, the direction was superb. Ron Howard, the director, is able to play with a difficult subject matter. There was laughter when the historian Sir Leigh Teabing says to Audrey Tautou that she is the last living descendant of Jesus. I would term it as black humour. As critics have noted, Tom Hanks plays a lifeless Harvard Prof. Robert Langdon. He seems a confused man and moves about aimlessly throughout the movie. That the heroine is indeed the Holy Grail is another comic element. She at last finds her home in a priory (a place where missionaries live) where the story tells us she really belongs. The Opus Dei undertone are also comical in part. The monk is becomes a murderer and the Archbiship Aringorosa are whacky characters. The explanation of the Last Supper with Mary Magdalene next to Jesus and the theory that she was pregnant and migrated to France seems ridiculous. Since I haven't read the book, I am not sure how much it follows the book. The movie cannot be considered as a serious film and, in fact, seems a partial parody on the Church. The superfluous mixes with fantasy and fiction overides truth. It's a curious film that one should watch for what it tries to define, among other things, that Jesus was human. A school of thought on Jesus's humanity is very much in existence. So, no surprise here. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Re: The Da Vince Code
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- As the debate over the book and movie rages on, and according to one post quoting a book that says Jesus married and lived in France, I wish to point out to another book, Jesus Died in Kashmir, by a German historian (I don't have the book with me right now). The book is available in English translation. One of the British magazines many years ago carried the photo of Jesus tomb in Kashmir and also the family who claim to be Jesus's descendants. Some believe that the 13-year gap in the Bible is that of Jesus visiting Asia and ending up in India. These Kashmiri families believe Jesus never returned to his home town but settled down in the valley, married and raised children. I wish to see the Code in a day or two. I have glaced through the book. However, I bought and read the Holy Blood and Holy Grail many years ago. In Toronto I also watched a movie Mary of Magdala (I am not sure if I have got the name correctly) even as protestors pleaded with me not to go into the theatre. Also having watched The Passion of Christ and many other Jesus-based movies, my faith has not been shaken a bit. In the name of Jesus, I remain a convinced Catholic. eugene correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] re:Developments in Goan NRI Affairs
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- It's not Felicitation but FACILITATION. eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] re: Nelly Furtado
As far as I know, Nelly Furtado is from Portugal (Azores) who was brought up in Vancouver, and later moved to Toronto. I have watched her live performance once in Toronto when she had just made big news with her first album. I remember reading that she wants to visit India, particularly Goa, as she had heard much about the little state. Eugene Correia Michael Ali writes: Nelly Furtado's third album 'Loose' will be released on June 20, 2006. The follow up to 2003's 'Folklore', 'Loose' includes the single 'Man-eaters as well as a duet with Latin pop superstar Juanes, and the song 'All Good Things' which features Coldplay's frontman, Chris Martin. Nelly Furtado, a Bombay Goan left India to settle in Canada when she was three years old. Mike Ali __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] NRI minister's views, and news
Emirates Evening Post -- May 5 Machine Readable Passpopts will reduce chances of forgery and speed up immigration clearance By Rayeesa Absal Abhu Dhabi -- I n a move aimed at speeding up consular passport services, the Indian Embassy launched its first Machine Readable Pass ports (MRP) yesterday. Eventually, all Indian passports are expected to be machine readable. The embassy plans to gradually replace old passports with MRPs whenever citizens submit passports for services like renewal or changing personal details. The new computerised consular wing (electronic consular facilities) at the embassy was inaugurated by the Indian Minister for Overseas Affairs Vayalar Ravi, in the presence of Indian Ambassador C.M. Bhandari. The new wing has been launched in view of the increasing volume of consular work at the embassy and to ensure parity with international standards and norms. Ravi also handed out Overseas Citizenship of India (OCI) cards. So far, 28 applications have been received for OCI cards, of which five are under process and the rest are ready for delivery, according to the embassy. The launching took place after the Indian Government granted recognition to the new system, which is expected to reduce chances of forgery and manipulation. The computerisation of consular facilities will also reduce chances of human error, besides increasing productivity and promising faster immigration clearance. New passports and other passportrelated services usually take five working days to be completed. Abu Dhabi is the final stopover in Ravi's UAE visit, also bringing to a close his week-long visit to the Gulf countries. As part of his visit, the minister met with several prominent members of the Indian community including representatives and leaders of major Indian organis in the UAE. Turn to Page 7 for 2 sive interview with Ravi. big demand Passport-related services sought over the past five yea Year New Passports Other Services 2001 26,582 5151 2002 30,856 4575 2003 41,378 5537 2004 42,012 6674 2005 37,226 6598 INTERVIEW 'Workers need protection' By Kiran Bajwa DUBAI On his maiden visit to the UAE as Indian Minister for Overseas Affairs, Vayalar Ravi has a packed schedule. During his three-day stay, he will meet Indian workers as well as attend a number of functions in Dubai and Abu Dhabi. In an exclusive interview, Ravi spoke about a range of issues concerningIndian expatriates. Excerpts from the interview. You have been talking about amending the Indian Emigration Act to protect immigrants. What sort of amendments do you propose? We are trying to provide teeth to the act. By making it a strict act, we will be able to protect poor jobseekers from the nexus of agents. I want to put unscrupulous agents behind bars and punish them strictly. What is the status of the modernisation of Protector of Emigrants Office? Do you think this would streamline its functioning, making it more transparent and effective? It is done. Our offices have been fully computerised. All our embassies can access labourer records in a fraction of a second. This has made the office's functioning effective and has opened more branches in north Indian states like Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. Around Rs 400 crore is lying with the Protector of Emigrants Office. Don't you think that the interest earned on this amount should be sent to Indian missions to help needy expatriate workers? I have to look into the details about how the money can be utilised. If relevant provisions are there, we will definitely avail of them. What is the status of the Smart Card issuing process? Will you will able to meet the September 30 deadline? We are trying to complete the process of issuing Smart Cards at the earliest but I don't think we will be able to meet our deadline of September 30. We need to extend it. Smart Cards will make it easier for Indians in foreign countries (NRIs, overseas workers) to enter or exit the country. Given the growing prostitution racket in the Gulf, are you planning to introduce strict rules for single females coming here? We are working on this issue with various organisations like the National Women's Commission. We suggest that women avoid coming here alone. We won't allow single women below the age of 30 years to come here. We need to build awareness among women to combat this racket. Strict measures are required to check this abuse. How many complaints have you received in this regard? I cannot give you figures offhand but we have been receiving complaints, mostly from Saudi Arabia and Muscat. During your recent Doha visit you told Indian ambassadors in Gulf countries to send you reports about the working conditions of Indian labourers. Have you received these reports? I receive these reports regularly. We are getting complaints about certain issues
[Goanet] who is NRI?
The Emirates Evening Post carried an interview with Indian Minister for Overseas Affairs, Vayalar Ravi, in Friday's edition. I will scan and post it on Sunday. A sidebox to the story. At a luncheon hosted by the Indian Business and Professional Council, a business, Vashu Shroff, asked: Who are NRIs? Businessmen like us or poor labourers? They have genuine problems, which need to be addressed. We don't have such problems but are complaining. We have money to solve our issues but labourers find it difficult to ear their bread and butter here and also face problems back home. -- Excerpts from the Interview Ravi said that the introduction of the Smart Card, which was to be introduced by Sept, would have to be extended as the formalities may not be completed by the deadline. Smart CAr wil meke it easier for NRS to enter or exit the country. On the status of the Protector of Emigrants Office, he said the offices have been fully computerized. All our embassies can access labourer records in a fraction of a second. This has made the office's functioning effective and check malpracties He was asked what the government is doing regaridngt the growing prostitution racked in the Gulf with reference to singles women coming into the region. His reply: We are working on this issues with various organisations like the National Women's Commission. We suggest that women avoid coming here alone. We won't allow single women below the age of 30 to come here. He said he has recieved lots of complaints, mostly from Saudi Arabia and Muscat, regarding this issue. He advised Indian labourers not to resort to protest like the one witnessed in Dubai very recently against one company. He said the government would also take up the issue of sponsors/emplouers keeping the labourers' documents with them. I believe the documents are passports. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs views
Gulf News -- May 5 Rogue agents' racket must be broken, says Indian minister By Sunita Menon, Staff Reporter Dubai: The nexus of dishonest agents extends from India to the Gulf countries, said an Indian minister yesterday. I am quite aware of how the unskilled and semi-skilled Indian labourers are being duped by dishonest agents. The first priority is to break this racket. This can be achieved if governments of various countries work in close cooperation, said Vayalar Ravi, Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs, at a luncheon meeting organised by the Indian Business and Professional Group (IBPG). An estimated 200 Indian businessmen and professionals attended and interacted with the minister who is on a three-day visit to the UAE. He praised the Indian consul general Yash Sinha for his efforts here. A four-page memorandum outlining issues like the need for identity cards for Gulf Non-Resident Indians (NRIs), return air tickets for stranded and destitute NRIs against the deposit given to the Immigration Department in India, and the need to launch a self-employment scheme for Gulf returnees was also presented to the minister by senior Indian businessman and social worker, Bharatbhai Shah. During his stay he will hold discussions with various UAE ministers, the Indian diaspora, various Indian organisations and the media. Ravi said that there are an estimated 400,000 Indian nationals who work as blue-collar workers in the Gulf countries. The priority of my ministry is to find solutions to the problems faced by thousands of Indian blue collar workers. I am aware of the helplessness faced by an Indian labourer whose passport and other documents are taken away from him by unscrupulous agents the moment he gets out of the airport. I have also received feedback on the issues faced by Indian nationals by the Indian missions overseas, he said. Answering a question about Indian labourers going on the rampage, he said: Violence of any sort is not welcomed. The Indian workforce enjoys a reputation of being peace-loving. The matter will be discussed with concerned authorities in the UAE. According to statistics provided by the minister, licences of 120 agents were cancelled in the last three years because of their bad records. There are about 4,580 registered recruiting agents in India of which 2,500 are in active business. Regarding granting voting rights to Non-Resident Indians (NRIs) in the Gulf, Ravi said that the Bill granting voting rights is already introduced in the Parliament. Once the Bill gets cleared it will help NRIs to exercise their right to vote provided they are present in the country during elections, he said. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] goanet progesses as new voices are heard
It's nice to hear new voices on goanet. Maybe a year or more I lamented the absence of female voices which were once loud and clear. Oldtimers will remember them, so I need not name them. Elizabeth is a good replacement to those who have now become inactive. She gives back as much as she takes. And that too in rapid-fire action. Though Mario has been around for sometime now, I still consider him a new voice. He surely replaces some of the old ones. I wish I could keep pace with the debates over religion, reservations, NRI voting rights, etc. that have marked goanet over the past few months. Since I get a digest version, I think I lag behind. I am thinking of gearing up to meet the new challenges of the new voices by diving into the debate, even if I have too with my legs first in. The debate are tense and engaging, and I wish some of them involved deeply in their point-and-counter-point arguments leave personal remarks aside. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] goa stall at dubai travel show
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- i was informed that dr. willy was in dubai with a delegation for the arabian travel market. i visited the goa stand as part of the india pavilion, but did not find the good old doctor. however, met the director of tourism, sandip jacques. today (thurs) morning dr. willy was to address a press conference but i could not attend. also with the delegation is victor albuquerque promoting health tourism. eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] film on usa sikh family - sorry, not related to Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- not related to Goa, but felt goans living in usa would be keen to watch it. eugene --- Acclaimed short film about a Sikh American family after 9/11 premieres on PBS' Independent Lens starting Tuesday, May 9, 2006. http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/americanmade/index.html American Made (http://americanmadethemovie.com) is a story about a Sikh American family in the aftermath of 9/11. When the Singh family's car breaks down in the desert, Ranjit tells his father that no one will stop to help because he looks like a terrorist. What follows is the heart-rending struggle between a father and son and a larger exploration of faith, tradition, acceptance, and what it means to be 'American' today. Told with humanity and humor, American Made has won seventeen awards from film festivals around the world. It will likely be the first fictional film about Sikh Americans post- 9/11 on national television. Director Sharat Raju's next project is a full-length documentary film Divided We Fall: Americans in the Aftermath (http://dwf- film.com) to be released in Fall 2006. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] re: NRI voting rights -- an article
I scanned this article from the recent issue of The International Indian magazine. --- NRI Voting: The dilemma of rights A beginning has been made and though the final outcome remains unknown, the voice of the NRI community is already being heard beyond the ballot boxes. The voices of the NRI community in the Gulf States are yet to find a place in the Indian electoral process that is uncomfortable with the uncertainty of the consequences such a step might have in determining the course of governance in India. The issue has long been side stepped with a measured caution and empty assurances from politicians, mainly citing procedural difficulties in implementing a mechanism for NRIs to participate in the electoral process. However, there is an estimated 20 million NRIs spread across the world of which almost 4 million resides in the Gulf States alone. Many of them have been industriously investing in commercial establishments, hospitals and residential complexes, contributing positively to a growing economy. It is estimated that every year the state of Kerala alone receives almost Rs 24,000 crores in repatriation with the NRIs in the Gulf region on the whole contributing an estimated $6 billion worth of remittance to the India exchequer. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has now categorically pointed out that Gulf Indians have a convincing political basis in demanding voting rights and that the government would be taking appropriate measures in this regard at the earliest. He further elaborated Most of them have immediate families back in India and have thus a vital stake in local governance, including the issue of who would represent them in the state assembly or the national parliament. Will the Indian government finally grant voting right to Gulf's NRIs? Gulf NRI demands have also found support in the Kerala chief minister Oommen Chandy, who feels that: Being Indian nationals, these NRIs should be allowed to exercise their franchise. NRls in the Gulf region have contributed significantly to the economy of Kerala and there is a pressing need to recognize their contribution. He has further recommended to the Centre to make sure that the voters' list includes all the names of Indian passport holders in the Gulf region. The government to demonstrate its sincerity on the issue soon followed up the pledge with a Cabinet note being drafted with the final decision on the matter being the responsibility of the Union Cabinet. What seems to be a simple issue on the surface in which the right to vote is a constitutional right of every citizen, at the same time is a privilege that must be exercised with responsibility and a clear understanding of the Indian political system. Therefore, while Indians living outside the country and holding an Indian passport are certainly entitled to be allowed the right to vote in elections ethically, the Indian constitution does not evidently have a provision to implement it in practice. The constitution under Section 20(8) (d) read with Section 20(3) of the RP Act, 1950 states that NRI citizens who are employed under the Government of India are qualified to be registered as voters. However, according to the Constitution of India, Section 19, of the Representation of Peoples Act, 1950, clearly points out that only a person who is ordinarily resident in a constituency is entitled to be registered in the electoral roll of that constituency. So, the first step to consider in NRI voting is the amendment of the law by the parliament without which any initiative would not have value or credibility. The seeds of corruption have also long been allowed to erode through the sanctity of the electoral process, therefore making it difficult to imagine a transparent mechanism in which NRIs will be allowed to be an effective part of the electoral process. There is a certain amount of political idealism in demanding voting rights for NRI with the belief that it will somehow make the Indian government more accountable and change things for the better. It certainly is a possibility but a somehow distant optimism given the existent realities of Indian politics and law. There is also a certain amount of risk in conducting India's state assembly or national elections in the Gulf region, where the perception of Indians is that of a hardworking and generally a peaceful community posing almost negligible threat to the Government. But granting the opportunity to participate in local and national elections in India could radically change that perception as political divisions creep in and Indian political parties wrestle to make an impression. The situation will be made further unstable by the fact that politics in India is not issue based but fueled by class, caste and religion. While in India, this is seen as part of the political process, in a foreign land it is sure to be scrutinized as a threat and will in some way disturb the unity and attitudes of the expatriate community. There is also a demand by
[Goanet] NRI voting rights
A lot of debate on the NRI voting right. As the situation stands right now, the Indian government has assured that the NRIs, particularly those in the Gulf areas, will get voting rights. Kerala has fully backed the centre's decision. But when it will happen has not been said. It will take time, just as it took couple of years for the government to give okay to dual citizenship to PIOs. As one of the goanetters metioned India woke up late to the PIO/NRI potential for investments, it is rather the work of New York-based Friends of the BJP who got the then BJP-led government to take steps in this direction. The New York-based Global Organization of People of Indian Origin (GOPIO) was probably the first to moot the idea of dual citizenship. They used lot of pressure on the BJP government. Pravasi Divas was the result of the hard lobbying. The Congress government had little choice but to follow the path set by the former government. Doing otherwise would bring on the wrath of the PIOs. Now that the ball has been set rolling, it is slowly but surely gathering moss. Patience is vital. Next step, as GOPIO has demanded, is for representation in Parliament. It's a tall order. Maybe it won't happen in the near future, but possibly in the long run. The jump for dual citizenship to PIO/NRIs MPs is going to be a long jump. I don't see the need for such. Selfless Indian-Americans, especially the strong groups in New York and California, are keen on it. Let's wait and see. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Eduardo Faleiro's statement on NRI issues
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- From Eduardo Faleiro's press statement on NRI issues, it seems he is seized of the matter, some of which were raised again with the visiting NRI delegation to the Gulf. In the light of what he says, it is obvious that the NRI team's trip gained nothing valuable. He has set the ball rolling and hope there will be answers from official quarters such as the Overseas Ministry. Now the main question is: Should NRGs address their queries directly to Faleiro or go through the NRI Goa FC? Maybe some will find it best to send to both. With Faleiro in a full-time job, and with the NRI Goa FC being run by volunteers, I think it would be wise to depend on Faleiro to deliver the answers. From his statement it also seems he enjoys the CM's support. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] travel piece on Palolem, Goa
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Travel -- What's On (Dubai) May, 2006 Bhaji on the Beach Ayurvedic massage, wheatgrass shots, 6am yoga, colonic flushes - Palolem beach in southern Goa is the ultimate soul-cleansing holiday. So Gareth Roberts watched it all from the bar with a Kingfisher and a coconut. Excuse me, miss, the carpet here seems to be soaking wet, I said, squishing my feet into the expanding dark stain for effect. Our 737 is 15 minutes out of Dubai and still ascending and 1 can feel thin tendrils of fear brush the back of my neck. Water and electronics, not a good mix, especially at 30,000 feet. I shout to the flight attendant. Don't worry it's nothing, we can get you another seat she shouts back from the jump seat in front of the Executive Class seating. The seatbelt light pings and almost immediately the wall mounted cinema screen crackles into life - so begins two hours of in-flight entertainment Bollywood-style -- West Side Story meets Four Weddings and a Funeral. With car chases. My three-year-old daughter is so enthralled she has stopped eating the toothpaste she fished out of the complimentary wash bag while nobody was looking. Two song-and-dance hours later the plane descends into Goa. First, the dark cyan waters of the Arabian Sea, then the black, palm-spiked rocks of mainland India and then lots of dark lush green. After Dubai's halogen landscape, Goa wraps itself around you like a leafy primordial boa. The friends we're meeting here appear from nowhere, bouncing up the stairs their faces beaming the internationally recognisable smile of people who have three weeks off work. We've got a taxi booked, its great, you'll love it. I'm worried. Fully loaded, our taxi --which from a distance looked like a people carrier from any international airport until you realise it's not that far away, its, right in front of you, it's very, very small -- shuffled out of the airport and gripped the black tarmac road that snaked over the hill into the rolling dense forests of Goa. The first night was spent only a few clicks from the airport as the next day half our party went on a shopping expedition to Mumbai to stock up on exotic material and discount Ray-Bans. Once in Goa, we discover The Coconut Creek Hotel really is set in a coconut grove and swisher than the website photos suggest. The shaded terraces, respectfully raised to only half the height of the massive palm trees, jostle for space by the pool. The chalets wed booked online are spacious and well appointed - each has a small terrace leading to the pool and bar where your next beer is only a wave away. Thee owner, a feisty Scot with a penchant for pub quizzes, has a well-honed sense of what constitutes good service welcoming guests personally and offering great tips (garnered from 20-years in the region) on how to get the most out of the area in two weeks - most of which is lost by our third Honey Bee - an innocent-sounding brandy concoction that demolishes the senses with the zeal of a cyclone. Come dusk and the mosquitoes come out to play. These sneaky black monsters have evolved biting skills that made light work of my clothes and repellent. But I was only bitten twice in two weeks and they work short shifts - Deet is recommended, swatting is optional. The Coconut Creek seems entirely occupied by returnees. Sean Davies a sunburnt taxi driver from Dorset, England visits twice a year with his wife, It's incredibly calm here, I'm happy to just sit down by the beach watching the surf, Id move here if I could. The next day, we pile into another tin-can taxi and head down the coast to Palolem. Regarded as one of the world's great beaches, Palolem is a three-mile crescent of platinum sand in a bay carved by gentle surf, monitored by a million impossibly angled coconut palms. When the breeze picks up, they sway like drunk supermodels - all big hair and stick thin bodies. Our bamboo hut is like a cast-off from a bad Tarzan movie. The huts double in number every year, sporting names that range from the mundane Beach Huts to the comically exotic Mr Jane's Marigold Chalets to the baffling iPod Villa Music Huts. Each year they build them and at the end of the season they tear them down and burn them. The beach is home to hundreds of motorcycle taxis, rickshaws and hole-in-the-wall shops selling everything from sarongs to vodka to racy cassettes. The town of Bakti Kutir is on a hill overlooking the bay through palms so dense that under a full moon, it looks like a bar-code plantation. There's a mad selection of therapeutic treatments but `Panic Yoga' catches my eye. As I
[Goanet] lynn's view on Indian media
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part III) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- I recently came across Lynn de Souza's name in Campaign Middle East weekly, which is published in Dubai and has arrangement with Campaign UK. Probably Lynn's piece was taken from the UK edition. Eugene Correia Campaign -- INSIDER'S VIEW INDIA A combination of Western aspirations and traditional Indian values is driving a booming media industry, Lynn de Souza says There is an optimistic buoyancy in the air. It weaves through the endless traffic jams, dug-up roads and construction chaos in our cities like an army of ants, moving relentlessly forward. Nothing can hold it back. Bomb blasts, earthquakes, tidal waves and thunderstorms are but minor blips, brushed aside. A bright future beckons, calling Indians all over the world, in her cities, her villages and her diaspora, to come and contribute to its making and participate in the takings. The media and entertainment industry has transformed itself in the past ten years and it will do so again twice over in the next ten months. Already the value of advertising and promotional inventory used by this industry exceeds that of all the FMCG players combined, making it the most advertised category in the country. The best talent from marketing, communication and advertising companies is being drawn to this sector, fascinated by its growth prospects, its high energy and creativity levels and, of course, the attractive pay packets made possible by bullish foreign and Indian investors in this sector. A sprinkling of private FM radio stations in nine cities gave a boost to this ailing medium six years ago, doubling its reach inside two years. Imagine what the 330 new FM radio licences spread all over the country, bagged by 29 large players, some with internationally proven capabilities,will do to its popularity. India has gone cellular faster than the West: 70 million users of mobile phones, living in remote villages and metropolitan multi-storey towers, are a mind-boggling marketing and communication opportunity. The US$4.3 billion TV industry is set to reach US$9.5 billion by 2010, making it the largest medium by then, overtaking even print. Directto-home TV is already here, but the big stakes are around the corner in mid-2006, when Tata Sky launches. The regional local-language players have arguably been the most successful in recent years. India can boast the newspaper with the highest daily readership in the world - the 150-year-old Dainik Jagran, published from more than 30 centres in the Hindi belt, has a National Readership Survey readership of more than 20 million per day. A youthful India, still grounded in traditional family values, has never had it so good. While the materialism of the West has enabled us to aspire to a better life, centuries of ingrained tolerance have taught us to keep our feet on the ground. Even as George Bush promises to increase the number of HIB visas to the US, a reverse brain drain has begun with Indian business process outsourcing services as diversified as medical transcriptions to data analytics to ad copy. The ants march on. Maybe they will swallow up the elephant sooner than we think. Lynn de Souza is the director of Lintas Media Group, India __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] nri associations
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Vivian asked me in an email if I know of NRI associations in Goa. I was told by Brig. D'Costa that there are some associations but he mentioned Jerome's association. Floriano has added to the information that Rene wants or has started one and that Vivian may be thinking of starting another one. In an earlier post, Vivian said he is no longer and NRI, having settled in Goa. I believe Vivian has tried to find out about these associations but without success. I suggest he contact Brig. D'Costa or Dourado. Someone on this forum requested for the emails of the three NRI FC members, and I too would like to have them. Perhaps, Wilson Coelho could provide Dourado's email. Another point, I saw just a couple of netters replying to my post on the NRI Dubai meet. So far, there's no one who has either supported the idea of a petition to the government to disband the NRI FC. It's such apathy on the part of NRGs that the NRI FC members take the NRGs for granted. NRGs should not be differential to those in authority. When the central government has bent over backwards to meet most of the demands of the NRIs/PIOs, the attitude of the Goa government needs to change. The Kerala government often sends delegation to the Gulf headed by a minister. Having attended a couple of their meetings, the debate among the officials and NRKs is tense and heated. No doubt the NRKs have a large number in the Middle East and a big economic force, the Kerala government has little choice but to listen to them. The NRK remittances to Kerala is much, much more than the NRG remittances to Goa. I don't know if there is need for an NRI association based in Goa. Once the the NRI FC website is updated and functioning, as Dourado promised he would do in a short time, NRGs could send their complaints, problems to the centre. Dourado, however, said that for any news item or for any NRG issue the website may receive thousands of posts. He said there is no staff to handle it. About NRI associations in Goa, there must be further thinking. I hope others contribute to the debate. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] nri meet afterthoughts
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- Here are some afterthoughts. As for hockey in Goa, it was the late Aniceto Fernandes, founder of Goan Sports, who formed and promoted both the men's and women's association. One of the charges against him was that he was based in Mumbai and running the sport from Mumbai. However, it was Govind S. Waglo who more or less looked after the administrative side. Just to give the women's side, the players were not happy with the state of affairs. They approached Herculano Dourado to spearhead the opposition to the office-bearers and probably also to take over the association in the hope he would put the house in order. He couldn't do much because Shashikala Kakodkar was the president of the women's association. At least for some terms, the president of the men's was the director-general or the inspector-general of police, who is a freedom fighter and whose name escapes me now. It's ironic that Herculano is behaving more dictatorial that Aniceto was. So just as others who now want to kick-start hockehy in Goa and would also probably like someone else to take over the reins, they can't do much. Like Dourado is close to KPS Gill, Aniceto was close to late Kartar Singh who domminated India's women's hockey. In fairness to Aniceto, he did give hockey a push in Goa. But things deteriorated later on. Aniceto also played a big role in football with his very close relationship with Ziauddin, the AIFF secretary and also secterary of WIFA, and BM Parkhot and Unni. I met a couple of past women players and asked them what they feel now that the man that wanted to change the state of women's hockey has now ruined it. One of them was silent and the other just nodded her head. I have seen enough of Goa's sports, though not from close quarters. I had often had quarells with both Aniceto and Waglo. In fact, it was Kartar Singh who ruined my relationship with Aniceto. I and Aniceto never talked till his death. I paid a visit to his house on the day he died and also attended his funeral. Coming to Dourado, I feel the man could be more suited to sit on committees dealing with labour issues. But like many politicians, they have their fingers in different pies. In India, just as politics and religion make a heady mix, politics and sports is another giddy tonic. The NRI associations in Goa and Goan groups abroad, particularly in the Gulf, must demand a new set-up under Eduardo Faleiro. An online petition is one best way to start with. Since I hear of only one NRI association in Goa, run by Jerome Mendes, it would be nice if this body takes the responsiblity of posting a petition on the www.petitiononline.com. I am ready to draft one and sent to others who can want to take a look at it and make the necessary suggestions before posting it on the internet. Let's start the ball rolling. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] The NRI Meet in Dubai -- My Take (Part II and Last)
The NRI Meet in Dubai -- My Take (Part II and last) by Eugene Correia A student said she wanted to join the medical college in Goa but she had to pay Rs 25 lakhs for admission. I am not sure if she said these fees were for students of NRI parents under NRI quota. Dourado joked that paying so much would mean she won't have anything remaining for her dowry. When Dourado began his replies at the end of the question session, the student was gone. He explained that there is now an entrance test for all students, no matter what they score at the exams. He said he would check with the authorities and asked participants if they could contact the student so he could get her email. A paper was circulated to get each of the participants' email but obviously she left before she could put her's down. Dourado, as quoted by the paper, slammed the visit of previous NRI members, obviously the one led by Keni, the chairman. No doubt Keni and other members came on invitation, but I didn't see any reason why Dourado had to criticize the group. I think Dourado is coveting Keni's post. Though Dourado and Keni, along with the other members, owe it to the Parikar government for being on the executive committee, I don't know if Keni enjoyed or enjoys the BJP support. Now that the political regime has changed and Dourado being a Congressman, it won't be a surprise if Keni is kicked out and Dourado takes his place. From my attendance of the 2005 Gomant Vishwa Sammellan, I could see tensions between the Catholic members and the Hindu members of the executive committee. There was lot of backbiting. I wish anyone who attended this year's convention could throw more light on the proceedings. Maybe goanet carried some posts on it and I obviously missed it. The Keni group was entertained in Dubai by one of the goanetters who is no longer active on this forum. I must say that the informal gathering at the goanetter's place was much cordial and interactive than the one that was conducted by the Dourado group. There was the secretary taking notes, unlike at this meeting where all three were taking notes. Brigadier D'Costa spoke saying that we must proceed forward and lot look back. He said that as a soldier he always keeps hopes. When I asked him in private before the meeting on the general NRI scene in Goa, he said there were some associations and they were confusion among them. Dourado also lectured on unity among NRI Goans, and at one point remarked that if there are three Goans, there are four associations. This is hackneyed remark. One of the participants suggested that NRGs should form pressure groups to influence the government. Well, the reason the NRI Facilitation Centre is set up is precisely to act as a pressure or lobby on behalf of NRGs. Besides, there's an advisory committee, on which the Kuwait representative is Wilson Coelho, who organized the meeting there. There's one Joaquim D'Souza for Dubai, but he obviously wasn't present at the meeting. No information was given whether he was contacted by the group, since it was Pravin who worked to put the meet together. These representatives are supposed to gather complaints and forwarded it to the centre. The Emirates Post reporter George asked Dourado if they had contacted the Indian consulate, and Dourado said no. I think if Dourado or Pravin had asked the consulate for space to hold a meeting, I am sure it would have been granted. George also said there is no Goan officer in the consulate as there are from other communities to deal with respective community groups in Dubai. Dourado seemed amazed and said it could be a coincidence that there are officers belonging to different ethnic groups, as he had not aware that this is the norm in selecting these officers. George is a former media advisor to the Indian embassy in Abu Dhabi. When Dourado said that the political scene in Goa is such there is corruption, George asked him if he could go on record. Dourado tried to wriggle out of the situation saying he has to tell the people the truth but doesn't want to be quoted. He said that the media wasn't invited for the meeting, and though George came on his own will on reading about the meeting in the Gulf News, Dourado welcomed him. He told George to understand the situation when reporting about the meeting. It was George who suggested that the Goa government think about starting a steamer service to meet the demand of the NRGs since there is only an Air India direct flight to Goa. The Indian Airlines fly to Goa via Kerala. Dourado explained that the airlines being commercial they would rightly seek to know the if it was financial viable for the airlines to increase direct flights, in the case of Air India, or start new ones instead of going via Kerala. Dourado said he, along with Dr. Willy, was responsible in having a direct flight from Kuwait to Goa. On the question of identity cards for NRGs, Dourado said they should apply for PIO cards. I informed him that PIO cards are only
[Goanet] NRI Meet in Dubai - My Take -- Part I
The NRI meet in Dubai -- My Take (Part I) by Eugene Correia The reports on the visit of the three-member team from the NRI Facilitation Centre to the Gulf is not flattering. I have no information about the meeting in Abu Dhabi. The Kuwait meeting report by Rabindra Pimenta and The Emirates Evening Post report show that many Goans did not want to come and those who were present were not happy at the result. In a post before the team's visit I had echoed the same sentiments expressed by Godfrey Gonsalves that the trip is a waste of time and money. What made the Goa government to undertake this mission so early to the next Gomant Vishwa Samellan is beyond my understanding. I can infer that whoever suggested this trip wanted to come to the Gulf at the government's cost before there could be change of scenario with the appointment of Eduardo Faleiro as NRI Commissioner. Since Faleiro is still awaiting Terms of Reference to his appointment, as reported here on goanet, some wise members wanted to jump the gun and enjoy this joy ride. The Emirates story say how the Dubai meeting was conducted. I can go further and say that I was very disapointed with Herculano Dourado's handling of the meeting. Before the meeting I enquired with him about what would be the centre's position vis-a-vis Faleiro and he told me that they had met Faleiro before the trip. He also informed the gathering that the team had two meetings with Faleiro. However, he requested me not to raise questions regarding the issue of relationship between the centre and the Faleiro. I did not raise because at the start of the meeting Dourado specified that he was only seeking to hear problems and suggestions from NRGs. Besides, it was getting late and people were leaving the room because for many the next day (Saturday. I learnt about the meeting just one hour before its scheduled time 7:30 pm and that too from a person I just called to talk about something personal. The person told me that the meeting's annoucement appeared in Gulf News, which I hadn't read that morning. When a person asked Dourado to give background information on the centre, he began by saying that it was formed three or four years ago. I tried to point out that the NRI Facilitation Cell was its forerunner, but he cut me short saying that he will sit down and I can come and tell the people about the centre. His impatience to listen and also the tone of his voice made it clear to me that Dourado was going to conduct the meeting in an authorative manner. It was not something I expected of him when I raised a point of order. As I think of it and begin to understand his behaviour, I feel I shouldn't have been surprised at all. I will later provide examples to show how Dourado has ruled over some organizations to the detriment of the organization's interests. When Pravin, the person who sort of coordinated the meeting, raised an issue and asked the people if what he said was true or not, Dourado admonished him by telling him not to be a populist. Mind you, Pravin, as president of the Goan Sodality Group in the St. Mary's Church, went out of his way to get a church hall and also to get the church to make an announcement of the meeting, but both were denied. He said he called many people to come but few turned up. Dourado said that since no local groups could arrange a hall, the delegation members booked the hotel room from their own money. He said emphatically twice that he wanted to have the meeting at all cost to show that the team really cared for NRGs. But much later he admitted that the team found a benefactor in Nelson Silveira, who is known for his support of Goan football and also as the financier of the football team Vaxim Divar. Nelson paid the room's Dirhams 500 charge. Obviously, the team wanted to have the meeting at all cost or they would have lost face. One of the members told me before the meeting that they contacted the local Goan association, but found that it was defunct. I am not sure if the Goan Cultural Society is defunct but surely the association is not functioning as it should. This raises an important question: Why did the Goa government sent a team without sufficient funds/budget? It looked ambarassing and probably many NRGs felt guilty when Dourado began saying the team had decided to pay from their pockets for the room charge. Perhaps the Emirates Evening Post reporter took away the impression that the Goa government lacks money to provide sufficients funds to its official team. Many Goans in the gathering would have willingly given money to pay towards the cost of the room if Pravin or someone who was connected in organizing the meeting had approached them with a request. Pimenta and the Evening Post's reports inform the nature of problems raised at both meetings. Dourado, himself a lawyer, gave legal interpretations to some of the problems that related to land and house disputes, and provided his understanding of some problems that related to get high
[Goanet] NRI meet in Dubai
Here is the full report that appeared in The Emirates Evening Post. I have carried the report as is by Daniel P. George, who is the paper's chief reporter, erred in writing Felicitation instead of Facilitation and misspelled Dourdo instead of Dourado. According to the website, Surlakar is still a member and not ex-member. However, as Dourado explained the website has not been updated. I was quoted in the paper, but I will provide a personal viewpoint of the whole exercise tommorrow. I was waiting for the evening daily to be out and check what was reported. eugene correia Goans demand better treatment Submit list of problems to team send by state govt but expect no redress By Daniel P. George Dubai -- Even as Goans in Dubai met up with a three-member delegation of the NRI Felicitation Centre appointed by the Governot of Goa to pur out their woes at a hotel last evening, they were dismayed over the step-motherly treament meted out to them by their state government. In what turned out to be classroom-like exercise, the Goans were asked to spell out their problems to the committee comprising Brigadier (Retd) Ian D'Costa, member of the centre; Advocate Herculano Dourdo, vice-chairman of the centre; and Mohandas Surlakar, ex-Member of the centre. Dourdo, who took down the points and grievances of the Dubai Goans on paper, said he would convey to the government their problems and seek speedy redress. The Goans who attended the meeting did not seem happpy at the whole exerices even after giving voice to their problems. They were irked by way their issues were taken down on paper without any details, residential address or where they hail from. It was a big farce, said one Goan who did not want to be identified. They were wondering as to how this centre would address their problems without further details and whether this was yet another shopping rip as most Indian ministers and dignitatires resort to when they visit the UAE. There have been visits before by people to the UAE and they have come winded, dined and gone back but this is the first time a delegation reprsenting the Government has come here and we will represent your case to the government for redressal he told those gathered. The range of problems presented by the Goans included land encroachments back home, corruption in goverment departments and a lack of direct flight to Goa from Dubai. According to Eugene Correia, These issues have already been discussed time and again at the Gomanth Samellan held last year. All that the Goans want is a single window to address their problems when they visit their home state on a vacation. The Dubai placed on record the cheating of job seekers by unscrupulous agents, housemaids in jails, poor and jobless Goans facing a bleak future and lack of medical assistance to the poor. Dourdo assured the Goans their problems would be address icnluding a suggestion for a ferry service between Goa and Dubai due to the rising costs of air fare. Another request from a student was to do away with NRI quota in professional colleges and resort to merit system as the fees were too expensive for the average middle class parent. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] NRI meet in Dubai
Further to my enquiry regarding the Gomant Vishwa Samellan in 2005, I checked the nrigoa website and saw the following names in the Advisory Committee:- Committee Members Shri. Edgar Leo Martins, Portugal Shri. Zamir Khan, Saudi Arabia Mr. Rene Baretto, London Mr. Eddie Fernandes, U. K Humberto Rabindra Pimenta, Kuwait Victor Anthony Fernandes, Canada Victorino Pinto, Swizerland Alexander Menino, Kuwait Simon Xavier DSilva, Doha Qatar Thomas A. Pereira, USA Yvonne Pereira, Kenya Alex Wilson Coelho, Kuwait Shri. Ashok G. Bale, New York Shri. Surendra Vasant Borkar, Australia Ms. Karin Elizabeth Fernandes, Canada Maria de Lourdes Figueiredo de Albuquerque, Lisbon Shri. Joaquim DSouza, Dubai Shri. Ratikant Mandrekar, Abu Dhabi I don't know if Joaquim D'Souza attended the Dubai meet. The point here is that the the NRI Facilitation Centre could ask the above committee members to gather the complaints, grievances and problems and sent them to the centre instead of the three-member delegation making the trip to Kuwait, Abu Dhabi and Dubai. --- Here is the full report in The Emirates Evening Post. I have carried the report as is George, who is chief reporter, erred in making in Felicitation instead of Facilitation and misspelled Dourdo instead of Dourado. According to the website Surlakar is still a member and not ex-member. However, as Dourado explained the website has not been updated. I was quoted in the paper, but I will provide a personal viewpoint of the whole exercise tommorrow. I was waiting for the evening daily to be out and check what was reported. Goans demand better treatment Submit list of problems to team send by state govt but expect no redress By Daniel P. George Dubai -- Even as Goans in Dubai met up with a three-member delegation of the NRI Felicitation Centre appointed by the Governot of Goa to pur out their woes at a hotel last evening, they were dismayed over the step-motherly treament meted out to them by their state government. In what turned out to be classroom-like exercise, the Goans were asked to spell out their problems to the committee comprising Brigadier (Retd) Ian D'Costa, member of the centre; Advocate Herculano Doudo, vice-chairman of the centre; and Mohandas Surlakar, ex-Member of the centre. Dourdo (instead of Dourado -- eugene) who took down the points and grievances of the Dubai Goans on paper, said he would convey to the government their problems and seek speedy redress. The Goans who attended the meeting did not seem happpy at the whole exerices even after giving voice to their problems. They were irked by way their issues were taken down on papger without any details, resitial address or where they hail from. It was a big farce, said one Goa who did not want to be identified. They were wondering as to how this centre would address theri problems without further details and whether this was yet another shopping rip as most Indian ministers and dignitatires resort to when they visit the UAE. There have been visits before by people to the UAE and they have come winded, dined and gone back but this is the first time a delegation reprsenting the Government has come here and we will represent your case to the government for redressal he told those gathered. The range of problems presented by the Goans included land encroachments back home, corruption in goverment departments and a lack of direct flight to Goa from Dubai. According to Eugene Correia, These issues have already been discussed time and again at the Gomanth Samellan held last year. All that the Goans want is a single window to address their problems when they visit their home state on a vacation. The Dubai placed on record the cheating of job seekers by unscrupulous agents, housemaids in jails, poor and jobless Goans facing a bleak future and lack of medical assistance to the poor. Dourdo assured the Goans their problems would be address icnluding a suggestion for a ferry service between Goa and Dubai due to the rising costs of air fare. Another request from a strudent was to do away with NRI quota in professional colleges and resort to merit system as the fees were too expensive for the average middle class parent. = __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] tourist write-ups on Goa
I happened to get a copy of the Jan-Feb issue of Darpan, the inflight magazine of Alliance Air. There are three articles on Goa. First, On Lobster Avenue -- Vana Banerjee Bey doves into a sophisticated cology off Goa. The place is not mentioned, but it says three islands surround Lobster Avenue. They take a boat on the Mandovi into the ocean. Second, Notes from Eart -- Prena Singh Bindra goes wild in Goa. It's about the Western Ghats and The Goa biot is the lower region of the Sahyadris, covering an area of about 600 sq km. Third, That Thing about the Thong -- Bharati Motwani spies in on a Goan beach under the guise of a sociologist. This piece is bit tongue-in-cheek. The opening para reads: The Goan beaches and beach bums are neatly divided into two. There is the Nudie North and the Snooty South. In the middles are the des upstgars -- the declasse Dilliwallahs, the mob from Mumbai and the busloads of triy-tripping Kanadiga clods who soak up beer like a platoon of sponge on legs. Well-thanked and frisky, they reacot to al lthings remotely female like Rovers responds to lunch. More addition to tourist impressions of Goa by non-Goans. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] NRI meet in Kuwait
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[Goanet] nri meet
At the 2005 Gomant Sammelan I remember some members were identified as representatives of some countries such as Canada, Oman, etc. I am not sure if anyone representated Dubai. Can someone who attended this conference or know about this please inform me about their names. I believe they were appoinbted by the NRI facilitation Centre. I ask this because of the meeting I attended of the NRI delegation in Dubai. Though I will give my views later today, I would like to see what I said earlier -- that this trip is just a free ride for these three noble volunteers who are bent on doing so much for their NRI brethren and sisters. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] re: nri delegation
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Further to what I wrote on the visit of the NRI team to Gulf countries and of the meeting at Khaleej Times, I wish to add that the meeting is under the auspices of the Khaleej Times International Forum. An ad for the same says, An Interactive Discussion on India on the Fast Track. Guest speaker Shri Kamal Nath, Minister of Commerce and Industry. It's on Tuesday, Marcy 28 at 4 pm at the Khaleej Times Building. The discussions will be followed by a QA session. To register, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] or calll Deesha Bhatia at 050-6575456. Not sure if the minister would be able to answer non-industry related questions, such as NRI property, cheap flights. The Goan Society in Dubai should make it a point to send representatives. The Indian diplomats, including Ambassador GM Bhandari, are most likely to attend. Does anyone knows the date when the Goan NRI team is visiting and meeting people in Dubai? Eugene Correia
[Goanet] nri delegation
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- I was informed by someone here in Dubai about the delegation's visit. However, the person was not aware of the date. I think it was Godfrey who pointed out the non-benefit of such a visit. Having attended one Goan NRI meet in Goa two years ago, I am convinced nothing much will be achieved. I had also been present at the NRI team visit to Dubai. It was led by Chandrakant Keni and Tony Correia-Affonso was a part of the team. Having attended the Pravasi Divas in 2005, I can say that the issues are almost same for all NRIs and PIOs. Vivian has outlined some. I have also attended Kerala NRI meet, and found their main problems relate to cheap flights to Kerala, the job and medical security in the Gulf, and NRI remittances.'Some of these have been addressed by the Indian government. I forget when but one of these days there will be a meeting of Indians leaders with Minister Kamal Nath organized by the Indian diplomatic commission. The meet is to be held at the Khaleej Times building. The meeting will address issues relating to Indian expat labour. It would be great if Eduardo Faleiro was accompanying the NRI delegation, since he holds a cabinet rank. As I see it, it's a free ride at taxpayers' cost. eugene
[Goanet] re:Clear Stream of Reason
I just happened to read about Francis Newton and Hussain in yesterday's DNA newspaper online. A column on the Progressive Artists Group mentions all those involved in this movement. Ara now lives in Paris. I used to bump into Ara often at the Jehangir Art Gallery and also had a chance once to visit his house at Kala Ghoda. Eugene __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re: The Clear Stream of Reason
VM de Malar says Hussain was Francis Newton D'Souza's mentor. To the best of my knowledge, Newton and Hussain were part of the Group of 7, that was launched in Mumbai. Newton was later disappointed with Hussain's work, dismissing it as pop art. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Sonia book reading in Mumbai
GREGORY DAVID ROBERTS Author of the best-selling Shantaram, and Sonia Faleiro will read from the book. on Friday, February 10, at 6.30 p.m. at Oxford Bookstore 3 Dinsha Vachcha Road, Churchgate, Mumbai RSVP Harish Shenoy 98210 14546, Shraddha Chopra 98203 26240 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] canadian elections
Troy de Souza lost to Dr. Keith Martin. All MPs of South Asian origin, with the exception of Gurmant Grewal, who didn;t contest, were returned. One new South Asian face is Sukh Dhaliwal, who had lost in the 2004 elections. He is a Liberal who got elected from Newton-North Delta in British Columbia. So, the total number of 10 remains. Gurbax Singh Malhi has created a record retained the Malton-Gore seat for the fifth time for the Liberals, while both Deepak Obhrai and Rahim Jaffer, both Conservatices, have been elected for the fourth time. If one of these guys gets a ministerial berth is to be seen. Rahim was once said to be a rising star in the then Reform party but he messed it up with an minor incident many years ago. Re-elected are: Gurbax Singh Malhi, Ruby Dhalla, Navdeep Bains, Wajid Khan, Yasmin Ratansi (all Liberal in Ontario), Ujjal Dosanjh, Sukh Dhaliwal (both Lib), Nina Grewal (Conservative), all in British Columbia), Rahim Jaffer and Deepak Obhrai (both CON in Alberta). Mobina Jaffer is in the Senate, appointed by former PM Jean Chretien in 2001. Dosanjh was minister of health in the Liberal government which is out of power after 12 years. Harper, the PM in waiting, has promised to do away with the Landing Fee of $975 for new immigrants. Hope he keeps his word. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] re: conservative candidate in canada
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- I agree with Mario to a point that the Liberals have erred badly in their rule under Martin, but they haven't "messed up" Canada. At least not yet. Troy faces an uphill battle as he is contesting against Dr. Keith Martin, who has claimed he's "one-fourth" Indian because his maternal grandmother was a Goan. Martin is the incumbent MP, I think, second term. He was a Conservative then switched over to the Liberal side. As predicted by some political pundits, the Conservatives may win the elections and form a minority government. As things stand now, it's going to be a close race. On another point, more than 30 candidates of Indian origin are fighting the elections. Of the 10 MPs of Indian origin, only one MP -- Gurmant Grewal, is not contesting. Grewal was probably told to step down after doctoring a taped interview with Federal Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh. Grewal's wife, Narinder (Nina), also an MP, both creating a record as a husband and wife team for the first time in parliament, is contesting. Both are Conservatives. She is likely to face a tougher battle this time against the Liberal candidate, Brenda Locke. As it has been in the past, most of the South Asian candidates are Sikhs. Among the 10 outgoing MPs, one of them was with origin in Parkistan. He is Wajid Khan, who is recontesting from Mississauga-Streetsville in Ontario.Eugene Correia Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP.-- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] candidate for Canadian election
-- | Wishing all Goanetters | | a Prosperous | | and | | Happy New Year - 2006 | |Goanet - http://www.goanet.org | -- Troy de Souza is the Conservative candidate for Equismlat constituency in Victoria, British Columbia. Canadian general elections on Jan 23. Given below is a reply from his campaign office to my query on his racial background. Though I had asked the office if he was Goan or Mangalorean, it isn''t clear from the reply if he is a Goan. The East Indian ancestry could mean a Goan. eugene -- Troy is of mixed Portuguese and East Indian ancestry, whose family left Goa before Troy was born. Troy was actually born in Pakistan, so is certainly an interesting representative of a broad spectrum South Asian ancestry. He is Roman Catholic and is married to a lady of Sikh ancestry. They have one child. Troy came to Canada when he was 8 years old, and was educated in Victoria BC. He then went on to education at Camosun College, University of Victoria and finally took a law degree at University of Windsor in Ontario. He also served as a reserve artillery officer, achieving the rank of captain. He is a municipal lawyer practicing on Vancouver Island. Troy DeSouza Campaign Office -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] re: pdf file
I sometimes use cutepdf writer. Otherwise, I bring documents into Adobe Indesign and create pdf. Eugene Correia -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] goencho ulo
I checked the goacom website but didn't find the second issue of Goencho Ulo. How do I get to read it?Eugene Correia__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Konkani songs and singers
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- It's interesting to read Dominic and Joe's writings on Konkani songs and singers. I heard Felcy for the first time at the Soglle Bhagivont tiatr in Dubai. She and her sister sang a tribute song to their dad Rom Tony. I was also pleased to hear Anthony after a very, very long time. Since no playbill, which lists the cast and singers, was provided it was hard to know who is who. One singer, I think Souza Boy or maybe Frances de Tuem imitated old singers such as Kid Boxer, Young Menezes, Remmie Colaco, and newer ones such as Succorino and, I think, Lorna. Both Lorna and Soccorina were part of the group. Lorna sang her old stuff, but missed lines from songs. One doesn't understand why she didn't sing newer songs composed by different people and also why she didn't her tribute song to Chris Perry. The tiatr Roddo Naka by Prince Jacob, which was held the previous day, the organizers sold a folded handbill for 10 dirhams. I bought one to know the cast. There were no names. The handbills had numbers which were drawn for some prizes and the first prize being a ticket to any destination Gulf Air flew. Truly, people suffer in silence because they want to watch the tiatr. Many were standing up with no seats available despite paying 50 dirhams. The organizers, as usual, apologized and, at the same time, appeal to their Goan hearts and for their love of Konkani. Better arrangements must be made for such shows. I am not sure if the organizers make lot of money. People who reserved their seats were shocked to see their seats occupied by others. There was nothing the organizers could do to get these illegal occupants of the go elsewhere. 'The organizeers stock reply: We are doing it for the love of Konkani and so you can also bear a little discomfort for the language. Eugene Correia -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Goencho Ulo
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- First congrats to those behind this new venture in bringing out the Romi Konknni fortnightly. It's my hope that this paper would endure the financial woes and other factors that resuled in killing other Romi Konknni papers, including dailies. I read that the next step is to have a daily. Without sounding pessimistic, the people behind Goencho Ulo should put off their big dream of having a daily. These people could instead work hard to make the paper a weekly first. The history of failed daily papers is known to those who have watched the Goan media scene.I would like to request the group to put an internet edition. It should be subscribtion-based, just like Goan Observer.Wishing the team the best of luck.Eugene Correia Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
[Goanet] dubai soccer in goa papers?
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Hi, I am told the story of dubai goan soccer final appeared in goa papers. If true, can someone send a link or paste the story, either on goanet or personally to me. eugene __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Passing away of Fr. John Correia-Afonso
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear Tony, My heartfelt sympathies to you and family. I knew Fr. John quite well and interacted with him a couple of times. Had a pleasant time talking history with him on his visit to Toronto many years ago. Last time I was in Mumbai I tried to meet him but was informed he was very ill. A great servant of the Lord. May his soul rest in peace. Eugene Correia __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
[Goanet] on Goa
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- This is from Mumbai's DNA newspaper, Sunday, Nov 6. Doing the done thing The holiday does not seem to matter anymore; the destination is all that counts Ninad D Sheth My last visit to Goa was at the turn of the millennium, right after my wedding. The honeymoon as my wife reminds me on the odd occasion is long over. So I was keen to know if the same will hold true for my attachment with this exquisite sea-facing dreamland. Since I was paying my way and, alas, not on a junket I chose a no-frills airline called Spice Jet. It is frighteningly no-frills! They do not even have life jackets; in case of trouble over the sea you pull the seat from your bottom, hug it close and pray hard. Destination Goa attracts blondes of all manners. Just before takeoff, a pretty young French backpacker parked herself next to me. Now my French isnt much but conversations tend to start on short hauls. The blonde asked me if I had done Goa before. Unlike backpackers out to do India with a vengeance, I do not do a place. It is much better to discover the place by walking around, meeting the local historian, dropping by an off-the-map eatery, and generally taking time to soak it in. With the death of distance these days no one wants a relaxed look. Travel is bereft of either exotica or adventure. The destination has taken over; the journey does not really matter. There is a frenzied need amongst the middle class to do a destination, if possible within the dreaded two-nights-three-days straightjacket. In the 1990s, Boeing proudly announced in its ad line tomorrow you can be anywhere, thus, by definition, ruling out that adrenalin flow which comes from going down the road less taken as in the olden days of travel. The charm and romance of travellers like Francis Younghusband or Richard Halliburton has long gone. By contrast, the air-conditioned traveller of today is the new consumer of global haunts, the outsider breezing past without bothering to look in. The digital culture has shrunk distance unbelievably. Microsofts tag line asks you where you want to go today. Between Boeing and Microsoft, the world has become a TV screen and the magic-carpet traveller has been reduced to a couch potato. Entire communities, most notably the Gujaratis and the Bengalis, have a fixed idea of visiting spaces through the vulgar mass tour groups with special diets thrown in. The Gee Wiz American is the crassest incarnate of the modern tourist. The Japanese, taking digital pictures of everything that moves come a close second. Modern travel is entirely soulless. There no excitement of arrival and none of the abiding pleasure of finding. All that matters is a picture with a grin in front of the Parthenon. Inevitably, the merry-go-round ends with a dinner at the local McDonalds. As I drank yet another feni on a moonlit Palolim beach, I had uneasy thoughts that another crass American Denis Tito had already done space as a tourist. The final frontier has been crossed. At the Goa airport on my way back, I bought a lottery ticket promising riches (actually, a crore). I said to myself, what good is it even if I win? In Goa you realise that the best things in life cost little. A feni, reading a book by the beach, or chatting up the blondes. For the one out to seek Goa and not do her, she saves her charms, like true love. Goa remains a one-night stand that lasts a lifetime. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re: Dubai goan soccer final - Benaulim Banned
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- I don't understand how Iranian Club can ban a team playing under the United Goans and All-Star Entertainment, the official organizers. The stadium is rented out to the organizers. Somewhere between the club management and the organizers lies the problem. Is it that the organizers are passing on the buck to the club officials? One would like to hear from the organizers on this matter. Eugene Correia __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Dubai goan soccer final - my take
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- The dubai goan soccer tournament ended on a sad note. The final was called off after the benaulim team refused to play following a penalty-kick award against them and then its goalkeeper getting the red card. The penalty was called when Russell fell down from a sliding tackle by a defender and, a fraction later , another defender also did the same. Just as the referee blew the whistle the benaulim goalkeeper rushed upwards but neither did the referee nor many in the stands saw what happened. however, the linesman raised his flag and when the referee consulted him, the referee pulled his red card and showed it to the goalkeeper. According to one newspaper report, the goalkeeper kicked an opponent but the report doesn't say if the opponent was Russell. One has to believe the linesman who was close to the incident. Though the referee agreed to withdraw the red card, it was suprising that benaulim didn't continue to play. Tongues waged in the stands saying that Rusell is known to fake his falls, particularly in the penalty box. Russell and Randall are a formidable combination in the Vaxim Divar ranks. Speedy and skilful, both can create problems for the defence. Russell, in particular, was tightly marked. Rarely he cut himself free. Benaulim put up a good fight against the fancied opponents. They moved the ball well but often lacked players upfront. The midfielders stayed far behind instead of moving up with the forwards. Probably the pace of the match took a toll on them. Divar is a all-round team. They combine well. The forwards look menancing every time they had the ball, unlike their opponents. I think goalkeeper Casmiro went a bit too far. If, according to the reports, the ref withdrew the red card, he should have been ready to stand in goal for the penalty. Demanding that even the penalty be withdrawn was asking for too much. I am told Casmira played for Goa. I think he showed bad sportsmanship. It's another matter that rival teams charge the organizers of playing favourites. The teams say that Vaxim Divar enjoy the organizers' patronage. I believe it was the mismanagment of the football tournament by officials of the Goan Society in Dubai, the orignal organizers, that led to teams banding together to form the United Goans and joining All-Star Entertainment in starting the tournament. It's time the teams take a good look at all the organizational aspects and make sure that organizers don't play favourites. It's doubtful that Benaulim will be banned for their act. One must wait and see how this incident is thrashed out. Eugene Correia - Gulf News Inter-village soccer final ends in controversy Dubai | Staff Report | 05/11/2005 | Print this page The final of the second All Goa inter-village soccer tournament ended in controversy after one of the teams walked out. Trouble broke out eight minutes into the second half after referee Mohammad Aziz flashed the red card to ABC Benaulim goalkeeper Casmiro Palha for a charge on Russell Rodrigues of Vanxim Divar without the ball in play. The move had resulted in a penalty being awarded in favour of Vanxim Divar after Rodrigues had been felled with both teams tied goalless. Linesman Azari informed Aziz about the charge made by Palha and the referee showed the Benaulim goalkeeper the red card. Palha, in turn, questioned the referee why he had been given the card, but Aziz stuck to his decision. Watched by Samant Goel, Consul from the Consulate General of India and a large holiday crowd of mostly Goan expatriates, Aziz backtracked on his decision after Benaulim refused to continue. The organising committee of All Star Entertainment met hurriedly and tried to have better sense prevail, but Benaulim stuck to their decision, insisting that the decision on the penalty also be withdrawn. It was an offence punishable with a red card, referee Aziz told Gulf News. But ABC Benaulim manager Dominic Colaco charged favouritism for the Vanxim Divar team throughout the tournament. If they wanted to win the trophy this way, why make us play at all? Colaco asked. Till this unfortunate incident, the final had given the large crowd enough to cheer about. And it was the players who were left to rue the situation in the end. We would have loved to win this trophy in a proper way as we thought we were the better team, shrugged Vanxim Divar skipper, Noel Fernandes. We were willing to withdraw the red card and allow the goalkeeper to play
[Goanet] dubai soccer result
The second match between Chinchinim UAE Exchange and SFX Old Goa ended in a 1:1 draw. Borgee The match ended in a goalless draw. I watched the match. It was fast game, and SFX missed many chances. Eugene __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] Re: Still no native Indian Catholic Saint (Mario Goveia)
Has this subject come here before? Isn't an East Indian monk from Bassein, Gonzalo, among the 13 matrys of Japan? Eugene __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] re:Abbe Faria statue
Wouldn't it be great to have a postage stamp of Abbe Faria with Malika Sherawat in the reclining pose! Just as the statue in Panaji. Just a thought Eugene __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] re:mumbai konknni bhasha mandal
Fausto has brought memories of the KBM in Mumbai. He rightly praises the efforts of F J Matyres, who worked almost single-handedly in keeping the organization alive. I met this genial worker very often, and I could see his deep feelings for the language. He tried his best within his limited means, devoting time after his work in a post office. KBM was there more in name, but its activites were unheard of. They had meetings but I don't know what they discussed and what came out of it. I think the KBM committee met sometimes at the bungalow of a Muslim lover (not of Goan origin) of the language. I am not sure if KBM is still there. Fausto has named the giants of old who helped KBM progress, particularly at the time when Konknni was under seize by the Marathi-language crusaders. May their souls rest in peace. Eugene __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet] re:roman konkani and other languages
Carmo's pointing out to the author and site for the movement of Roman script for Marathi reminds me of a former Indian consul general in Toronto who was studying artificial intelligence at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, about an hour's drive from Toronto, which is recognized for its computer science faculty. He said he was working on a common script, possibly Roman, for major Indian languages. Didn't know what he achieved. I think after his retirement from the foreign service, he lives in the Darjeeling area. Konkani has a better chance of getting Roman script recognized than Marathi ever being written in Roman script. I doubt the purists and the linguists in the Marathi community would give up Devanagiri, which is one of the strengths of its identity. It's becoming very common to see Hindi written in Roman script, particularly stuff relating to Bollywood. The Hindi soap opera has titles written in Roman script. Eugene __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/
[Goanet] goa festival in mumbai
From Mumbai Mirror Go Goa! Festival vows celebrities with sea food Visitors to Intercontinental The Grand at Sahar on Friday must have been delighted to find the holiday spirit pervading amchi Mumbai. A coconut tree, a hammock, fishing nets, and a huge boat at the entrance greeted those who wandered into the Goan Food Festival. To complete the ambience, waiters dressed in straw hats and beach shirts served up curry in small mud pots. The ambience soon had the guests letting their hair down. Ila Arun, for one, joined the two-member band (without the microphone, mind you) and added to the vocal din er variety. As for the dinner, it was prepared by a chef flown in especially from Goa. On offer were Chicken Calde Soup, Prawns Pulao, Cabbage Foogath, and other interesting seafood delicacies.Quite a few television stars seemed to have wrapped up their shoots to come partake of the feast. Rohit Roy looked thrilled at the prospect of two pretty young things escorting him (and wife Manasi Joshi) to the venue. Actors Gurdip Kohli and boyfriend Arjun Punj also strolled in at some point in the evening and pampered their taste buds. Kishwar and Hiten Paintal enjoyed the attention from the shutterbugs. The Goan Food Festival will go on till September 10. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] re: konknni and romi lipi
This is important correction, though there could be other mistakes. -- In my village I COULD'NT (instead of could) find many houses, including mine, buying Konknni magazines and V. Ixtt, except for one neighbour. I think S.M.Borges raises some pertinent questions, and it would be good if he posts the article detailing the other viewpoint on this forum, if needed in separate parts. Is S.M Borges the same Borges who writes or has written or Gulab? Eugene Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] re: Konknni ani Romi Lipi..... some opinions
without protest in India, and the Konknni agitation is a good example among many others found in the rest of the country. India was divided into states on linguistic lines. I am, however, positive that if Konknni Roman script shares the official language status with Devanagiri script it won't make much of a difference to the body politic of the state. Some of those Devanagiri side have expressed their support, and this should hold good in the fight for equal status. Naik has a long laundry list of ifs and buts as well as other suggestions why Roman script Konknni should get what it deserves. He also paints a doomsday scenario if the struggle for Roman script Konknni fails. A cuple of months before Fr. Freddy D'Costa died, I had a lunch meeting with him at his Parish during my visit to Goa. In the short time we had together, he admitted that Gulab wasn't doing well circulation-wise and that the few advertisements were able to support the magazine. Low circulation and probably lack of ads were perhaps reasons among others that killed Uzvadd. Even the New Uzvadd failed to shine. Similarly other Konknni papers could not fly. I am, therefore, bit suprised at Naik's suggestion for Roman Konknni papers, though he gives names of the existing papers and magazines as examples of survival. In my village I could find many houses, including mine, buying Konknni magazines and V. Ixtt, except for one neighbour. He was good enough to give me old copies of Gulab which he had saved, and I could read them during my holidays. I think a serious study on the feasibility of Roman script Konknni magazines and newspapers need to be undertaken. Naik wants the Archdiocese to start Konknnni journals targetting the young. It looks nice on paper, but I wish to hear from those in the field of journalism how realistic is the idea. May I ask if the English-language youth magazine Call, from Pilar Society, still coming out? We need to harness the power of the language among the young. There may not be financial rewards, and if the Archdiocese or any government, semi-government or independent organizations can bear the financial burden it would be a big step forward. I understand and appreciate Fr. Naik and all those who are the in the forefront of this new struggle. I want to tackle other points, but I think I have written enough, at least for now. I have expressed my opinion in an effort to widen up the debate, at least theoretically. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Re: Roman script Konkani
With the turn of the Konkani Romi script debate towards Marathi, I remember that during the agitation for Konkani a noted Marathi writer said that Konknni should be written in Marathi! Didn't know what he meant or if he was misquoted. With so much of Hinglish now in use in India, the day is not far when Konglish will be widely spoken. The trend has set in Goa. All Indian languages with have lish as a suffix. I remember couple of English plays where the Parsi characters spoke in mixed Gujarati-English sentences. The RSM may achieve its objectives, but will it give rise to more writers in this script? Those at the forefront of this movement would do well to answer this. Newspapers such a V.Ixtt and even magazines such as Gulab are not seen in too many Goan catholic households. There is a dearth of Konknni writers. Another movement to make RS writers of youngsters would be needed as a follow-up action. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Re: Roman script Konkani....correction
copy of Konkani Ord Xastra (maybe my spelling is incorrect) written by Prof. Antonio Fernandes I think the name of the booklet is Konknni Nad Xastra (definitely NOT Ord). I think it means, Rules of Konknni Grammar. Eugene Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Re: kingfisher airlines ad
I could not find the ad for the kingfisher airlines on the company website, and would be happy if someone sends me a link or posts it on the forum. Scantily-clad girls promoting tourist destinations is not new. It seems the old controversy of the billboard that was outside the Dabolim airport has been reignited. I think it was the billboar welcoming visitors to Goa to a place where anything goes, maybe I am not using the exact words. In the current controversy, the NGOs and individuals may be fighting the sublimal message in the Kingfisher Airlines ad. Whether we like it or not, Goa has attained fame (or to those who look at the other side, infamy) as a fun place. Maybe this is the hangover from the hippie days. I doubt, however, Goa is looked at as a sin city in the manner such as Bangkok. The paedophile image created with the arrest of Freddy Peats and the reopening of the issue with Peats's associate in the child-sex ring now brought to Goa will put the spotlight back on Goa. Kerala offers almost equivalent or better scenic delights as Goa, but its tourist image is much cleaner than Goa's. Once an image is created, it persists. As far as I can see, Goa's image isn't soiled. Such ads only create some frills, but visitors would be losers if they come for sex tourism. In this not-so-subtle ads, Goa can come to be projected as a better nightspot than the rest of India, though frankly the nightlife in some metropolitcan cities, particularly Mumbai, is much more tempting to those who seek such pleasures. In new tourist places such as Dubai, which is promoted as very liberal compared to other cities in the Middle East, there is what one would call underground tourism. The word sex is taboo. I can believe that call-girl rackets are existing in Goa but open soliciting as done on Dubai streets may not be taking place. That Goa had or still has a red light district is enough to convince the global traveller that the state is hot. I read an article on Goa's tourism in the current issue of Goa Today, but I don't remember reading anything on sex being one of the magnets, rest being sun, sea and feni, attracting tourists, foreign and domestic, to Goa. I would hold rest of my comments till I see the Kingfisher Airlines ad. If someone could post me privately the ad, I would be thankful. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Re: Roman script Konkani.... new form
Eugene Correia wrote on 25.08.2005: Even the late Prof. Lourdino Rodrigues advocated devnagiri script, and the TSKK published his work in that script. Jorge: Is it Prof. Lourdino Rodrigues or Prof. Lucio Rodrigues? Eugene: Prof Lourdino Rodrigues from Santa Cruz. To the best of my knowledge Prof. Lucio didn't write in Konkani. The Dalgado Konkani Academy had published a small booklet on Roman orthography many years ago. It's obvious now that this one is no longer relevant. I don't know how many netters have seen or have a copy of Konkani Ord Xastra (maybe my spelling is incorrect) written by Prof. Antonio Fernandes (not sure if I got the name correctly). He was called professor because, I believe, he taught at the Rachol Seminary. I had mentioned this to Tomazinho Cardozo during one few meetings at the NRI Meet at the Kala Academy. He wanted a copy of it. Unfortunately, the copy is at a different location than I am currently at. I think I also talked about the professore's small booklet with Fr. Mathew Almeida, when he came to Toronto, more in passing than its merits and demerits in the context of present-day Konkani. Since the structure of Roman script Konkani has undergone changes over the last decade or so, Konkani Ord Xastra would not meet the present qualifications. It could be dismissed as old Konkani. The late Prof. George Mark Moraes paid a glowing tribute to Prof. Fernandes in an article in The Examiner under the heading, Konkani Man of Letters. I think I mentioned about Prof. Fernandes before on this forum. I had requested his daughter to get his works published, but she said that her brother was in possession of his papers. It's hard sometimes to convince people that publishing a learned man's material for the common good of the community is better than hanging on to such works for whatever personal reasons. In the context of the new form of Roman script Konkani, I would have loved to hear the views of Prof. Olivinho Gomes. Has any journalist approached him for his views? If not, could some of the journos on this forum get Prof. Gomes to talk. It would be nice to have an all-round debate on the subject that's hot issue now. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] re: goanet anniversary... and the next steps
I have said this before and I repeat this again on the occasion of goanet's eleventh anniversary -- that Herman is our own Rip Van Winkle, in the sense he wakes up only on certain auspicious days. This obvious is meant to be taken as a joke, just during one of the few heated debates on this forum he was also nicknamed The Herminator. Rip Van Winkle also means a person who is oblivious to social change. In this respect, Herman is no Mr. Winkle. Since he has announced that goanet would also help in community building projects, I think he and those who guide the destiny of goanet have the interests of the community at large at heart. I assume the goanet membership has increased over the past few years, which is a good sign that Goans, and in few cases, non-Goans see the forum as something to be part of in sharing knowledge of Goa and things Goan. What is saddening, however, is the absence of voices that one heard very loudly and clearly. Some of the prolific writers have disappeared altogether. I wish they could show up now and then. I can't say if they are still members. If they are, they perhaps won't to remain in the background, a place to where they relegated themselves. I won''t name names, but if these guys and gals are reading this I would want them to make their presence again on the forum. It was joy to read them, argue with them, agree or disagree with them, and pick each other's brains. I have said it earlier, but the lack of women's voices is another disturbing issue. I ask again, Where have all the women gone? We need more than Daisy's recipes and Cynthia's soul-searching posts, often forwarded from other mailing lists, Viviana's direct hits, now infrequent, and Liane Rodricks's limericks. Give us the female perspective on things, from World Goa Day to Konkani script and everything in between. Coming to Herman's future goals, I think getting funds for social upliftment projects, literary projects and women's empowerment projects would make goanet not just an cyber water fountain stop or an idle's man pastime, as some critics say in hushed voices. I would also suggest that goanet seek reasons from those who have left or are silent. Reasons could be from 1. lack of time, 2. burn out, 3. information overload, 4. just hot air, 5. too much infighting. They should be invited to suggest alternatives, but as far as I can see, the alternatives are few. What goanet is doing and facing is common to many mailing lists. Here's raising a glass of feni to goanet and all those who bring us the news and views each day, rain or shine, Hurricane Katrina or Tsunami. Eugene Correia Someone who has at times thought of quitting, but hasn't had the guts to do so Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Re: Roman script Konkani... in new form
Since the Dalgado Konkani Academy hasn't said anything regarding the new Roman Konkani script, it's fair to assure the body has accepted the script. Like Fred, I too am totally taken by surprise by TSKK's about turn or rather a change in direction, from first pushing from a devnagiri script to now promoting the new Roman Konkani script. Even the late Prof. Lourdino Rodrigues advocated devnagiri script, and the TSKK published his work in that script. I am not sure if the learned professor's full dictonary has been published. TSKK's earlier thrust for devnagiri was probably because the devnagiri script captured the phonetics well. If the same effect is available through the two added symbols to the Roman script it may be wise to follow this script. Will Goem be written as Gohy? (I tried to put the symbol over the letter o, but can't in plain text. I copied from Microsoft World, but the result is what I got above). Would this new script make Shenoi Goembab turn in his grave? Or, could his book, The Triumph of Konkani, renamed as The Crimp of Konkani? Eugene Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Re: Further insights into WGD
having started in Kuwait is true, but I, in the matter of Goan diaspora, GOA Toronto preceded the Kuwait organization. On another level and to other questions, I think Wendell made a suggestion to have a corpus fund for Goa's development. Considering what Goa Sudharop is doing, I think it follows the same thinking, with their funds aimed for Goa's development. The IGO also contributed in the form of hospital beds to Goa. I am not aware what the body is doing now, or if the body is still in operation. If I recollect correctly, Godfrey Gonsalves, in other post not related to the issue of GWD, provoked diaspora Goans to come to the aid of the state. I think he said that we diaspora Goans should not just talk of helping but coming to Goa and held help physically in the uplift of the society. It would be a big sacrifice to do that on the part of diaspora Goans. I wouldn't go to that length at least for now, knowing the socio-political climate in Goa. Maybe the prospect of a good-paying job would act as a magnet. Perhaps when I retire, going to Goa would be an option. At a more intellectual level, I don't think having WGD makes any much impact on the Goan psyche. It does make any difference to my Goanness, since I celebrate it in different ways. Going to Viva Goa and having a separate GWD appears to me the same in the current format. Unless the parameters are changed to make the WGD stand out significantly against other Goan functions, meaning having seminars, workshops on Goan themes, it will be just dances, picnics, etc. I find this is just sentimental sop. I haven't come across other communities having such global celebrations, except that some communities have their annual conventions in North America, such as the Bengalis. I am not sure if the Konkanis have theirs annually, probably once every two years. I think the Sikhs had one in Dubai last year. The World Sikh Organization used it have their annual meeting with fanfare some years, more enthusiastically when the issue of Khalistan was hot. The Sikh community has been ruptured by the Khalistan issue, and more and more Sikhs, some of them ardent supports of the movement, have realized that Khalistan is a dead issue. From Gilbert Lawrence's complaints, I picked the one that I feel needs urgent attention. It's about his book which, he says is still way under-utilized. I gather he means that the WGD organizers and other Goan diaspora organizations need to push the book among its members or to the Goan public at large. It's going to be a hard sell for associations to sell a book, though publicity could be provided in their respective newsletters. I tried hard to sell late Prof. Frank D'Souza book of his collected essays published by his family. I then got the current chairman of the GOA, Roque Baretto, to buy more than a dozen or so at a concession rate and keep the profits for the Salcette Association (I think). Few Goans buy books on Goan subjects, as I have seen at Viva Goa and other events. On the subject of books, though the idea seems financially unfeasible if one takes into account Gilbert's case, I want the Goan diaspora, rather directly the Goan associations, to consider putting a book together of selected articles from The Goan World and Anglo-Lusitano, both print publications that went out of publishing decades ago. I had approached Father John Correa-Affonso to consider such a project. He had informed me that the The Goan World magazine, the copies which he had obtained from Prof. Adolf Viegas's family, was in the process of being sorted out and arranged properly. Some he said were badly tattered. This was long time ago. I assume the copies must have been arranged. If so, whether they are available for the public at the Heras Institute, at St. Xavier's College, Mumbai, is not known to me. The pages of the magazine and the weekly contain a wealth of literature from a galaxy of Goan intellectuals before my growing up and which, I doubt, would come again. Some of the stuff has been published by the families of different authors, such as Prof. Armando Menezes, and Prof. Francisco Correia-Affonso. The essays by others must be made available to this generation and future generations of Goans. Maybe the writings belong to another age and the issues no more relevant to our times, but it's essential that Goans who seek the knowledge of Goan issues as well as opinions of learned Goans on the national, regional and local issues of the day read them. The diaspora associations could come together to sponsor a researcher. The Heras Instituted could be approached to be a joint partner in this project. The computers-for-Goa can be an inspiration for diaspora Goans to join hands once again and carry the literary project, for which we could find a name, forward to fruition. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] reactions to posts
I don't seem to understand why some netters want to send their criticisms or replies privately instead of posting them on the forum. This particular person called garbage the part where I made comments on the claims for the WGD. He spoke nothing of other points in the lengthy post. This individual has done the same recently. He is indeed becoming a pest, and need to prescribe medicine for himself to cure him of his nasty habits. As they say, doc heal self! Eugene Correia __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
[Goanet]Free Thoughts on World Goa Day
into the background. In the current battle for Konkani in Romi script, the faultlines becomes visbile. Wendell Rodricks's call to dispora Goans to come to the aid of the state is sensible, but fraught with fear. One need to read between the lines of his message and also through what he says in the current issue of Goa Today. The very mention of corruption, neglect and apathy are words loaded with caution. He calls us to join the resident Goans in the battle. But, to be generous, we may win the battle, however small, but will we win the war? I was a witness to the farce that took place in the name of NRI Goan event in Panaji. Chandrakant Keni's message on the WGD is welcome, but taking into consideration the unsustained efforts of the NRI-Goa to consolidate the unity of Goans across the globe the words sound hollow. The WGD could mean different things to different Goans. Those Goans who haven't reconciled to the fact that Goa is liberated and now part of the nation called India, where it belonged and should have remained if not for the Portuguese interlude, the WGD could be nostalgic with Portuguese colours. For others who have no hangup of the Portuguese regime, the WGD is something of an opportunity to coil up tightly into Mother India's womb. Diaspora Goans must continue to work harder to strengthen the ties that bind to Goa and, at the same time, continue on their quest to occupy the Third Space. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]shortage of burial space
from Mumbai Miror --- Bury the coffin! Catholic priests advice against ostentatious funerals and the use of elaborate coffins to promote environmentally clean burials When you drop dead, drop in: reads an invitation to a funeral parlour in Mumbai. But a movement for less ostentatious funerals that has taken root in Vasai, on Mumbais outskirts, portends a deadly blow to the flourishing business in coffins and funeral paraphernalia. For the last one and half years, Catholic priests and laity in Vasai have been promoting the idea of environmentally clean funerals that does away with coffins. One of the priests spearheading this idea is father Francis Britto who edits a local community journal called Suvarta. Britto says that simple funerals agreed with the idea of a clean environment that his magazine promotes. The graveyards in Vasai are small and there are no fixed family graves. The use of closed coffins creates a problem because the body does not decompose fast and the grave cannot be reused for a long time. Getting rid of coffins saves wood and trees, said Britto. At least two parishes in Vasai, Our Lady of Lourdes in Shirlaiwadi and St Michaels in Manickpur, have already implemented the concept and ten more have recently decided to promote the idea. The movement is now on full swing, declared Britto. Though the church has promoted the idea, it has not declared it as official policy because of concerns that many members would see it as an offensive on old practices. We support the idea because it is hygienic and environment friendly. However, we do not want to force the practice on the people; the idea will have to be promoted slowly, said father Michael DSouza, parish priest of St Judes Church at Jari Mari, Kurla. In Mumbai, churches have not started experimenting with the idea; but church leaders said that they are watching the developments in Vasai with interest. DSouza says that he would like to implement the idea at his parish. My congregation is largely poor and cannot afford elaborate funerals. We suggested the idea of simple funerals; but it is yet to become popular. People are worried about what their relatives and friends would say if they do not give their dear departed a nice funeral, said DSouza. Like in most cities, burial space in Mumbai is shrinking, forcing communities like Christians and Muslims to reuse graves more frequently. Teak wood coffins take years to disintegrate and is a hindrance to the practice of rotational use of graves, said Britto. To get over the problem, some churches have allowed cremations, provided the people who demand it for their dead relatives sign an undertaking that they have not abandoned the belief in the resurrection of the body, says father Tony Charanghat, spokesperson for the archbishop of Mumbai and editor of Catholic community weekly Examiner. Charanghat added that the spiralling costs of funerals and shrinking burial space are two primary reasons why the church wants to encourage the idea. For instance, the cost of an elaborate coffin could go upto Rs 20,00. The cost of coffins has been skyrocketting and the richer you are, the more and elaborately decorated the coffin is. Rich people like to show off with the best coffins, he said. For the Catholic community, the issue is an emotional one. It is certainly a sentimental issue, says Joseph Dias, resident of Kalina and member of Catholic Secular Forum, a community organisation. One option midway could be the use of bio-degradable materials for making coffins. This will maintain traditions and also take care of modern day problems like lack of space and environmental pollution, he added. Despite the arguments in favour of tradition, priests say that the use of coffins is a largely urban practice. There is no compulsion to use a coffin. It is a new practice, said DSouza. Dias said there is nothing in Christian scriptures that make the use of coffins compulsory. Whether we like it or not, we will have to think on this issue, he said. The idea has even the backing of Michael Pinto, whose family has been in the undertaking business for nearly a century. It may not be good for my business; but simpler funerals are a very good idea. It will save the trees, he said. * Manoj R. Nair writes on the multiple communities in Mumbai Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]re: darryl and hospital bills
I just posted what I was told to me over the phone by an ex-colleague. I believe he was on a respirator or maybe heart-lung machine at the Lilavati Hospital in Bandra, and earlier to that at a Malad hospital. He was a resident of Malad. I am not aware of the details, such as TOI insurance, etc. I didn't query my friend about all this. We were talking about the death and the funeral. But I am told by someone else whose family member was on a heart-lung machine that it cost them Rs 3000 for 15 minutes, just before the person died. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]goan journalist passes away
Read this morning on the net that Darryl Crasto, a senior sports reporter with the Times of India, passed away yesterday in Mumbai. Darryl covered the World Junior Hockey in July. Besides hockey, he was a specialist writer on motorsports, billiards and snooker and motorsports. He was an ex-colleague at the Free Press Journal, then moved on to Indian Post and later joined the Times of India's new paper, Independent, which folded and he was absorbed by the TOI. He was also a past president of the Sports Journalists Federation of India, and, according to another ex-colleauge, Darryl was president of the Mumbai Press Club. According to this ex-colleague, Darryl got wet two days in Holland, and then on the day when Mumbai was flooded in walked from Bori Bunder to Mazagaon, his mother's house, in deep water. I am he contacted pneumonia, and after ten days or so in two hospitals, he breathed his last yesterday. He leaves behind his wife and two children, the eldest who is in junior college. I was informed that his hospital bills came up to six lakhs for the ten days or so he was in the hospital, and ex-colleagues and friends were trying to raise funds to pay the bills. His two uncles, Joe and John Crasto (both deceased), the later too having started at the Free Press Journal, and both together at the Times, were sports journalist. His older brother, Ivan, too is a sports journalist, also ex-FPR, and now with Rediff. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]re: dinesh and washington
During the 1988 First International Goan Convention when I was putting together the souvenir, I wrote to the Washington DC Association but got no reply. In the souvenir I have given brief notes on those Goan associations around the world who wrote back to me. I thought the association was rather inactive or, maybe, inoperative. So, it's easy to understand why the association didn't invite Dinesh. Maybe a decade ago, I led a group of Goans from Toronto to a New York convention of Indian Christians. This group was largely made of Konkani singers and dancers. I was requested by the then NY Goan association president, Pascoal D'Souza, who is now based in Las Vegas. At this convention, mostly of Keralites, I met a lady from Washington who was involved in a Christian group. We got to talk and she told me (I forget here name) that she had invited Dinesh for lunch or dinner. She was a Mangalorean and wanted to know from whether Dinesh was a Goan/Mangalorean/East Indian. I told her that I was not aware but I know he's from Bandra. I related this to show that there were some groups who wanted to tap Dinesh for whatever reasons, or maybe just wanted him over to know him better. In that respect, has the NY Goan Association invited him to speak at any of their functions. I think the GOA, Toronto, should also invite Dinesh if they have any function. But unfortunately, the GOA has mostly dances/socials/picnics. I don't think even an event such as Viva Goa is the right one to invite Dinesh. To give an example, I had to request the GOA to have Dr. Leon Joseph D'Souza, former minister in the Maharashtra government and later Rajya Sabha MP. People hardly paid any attention to his speech. They didn't care, for most of them who come for such shows are interested only in having a great time. Maybe when Dinesh is in Goa, goanet could ask him to speak. So, goanet guyas get in touch with Dinesh and ask him when he is visiting his native place. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]re: dinesh
Dinesh has his own website http://www.dineshdsouza.com, but he hasn't given details of his herediatry. Made a more specific search on his goan roots on google and here's one of the sites http://www.telegraphindia.com/1040510/asp/opinion/story_3218559.asp Unfortunately, the site http://goacom.com/saligao_tinto/scroll.htm does not list him as one of the proud sons of Saligao. Maybe rightly so, for Dinesh is a Assagoakar, and a grandson of Saligao, according to some of the posts here. But the tinto -- http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/balcao.htm#dinesh -- says it's proud of him, though not saying he is grandson of the village. here's what the Telegrapha site says: --- THE GREAT INDIAN CLASS TEST COMMENTARAO / S.L. RAO The author is chairman, Institute for Social and Economic Change [EMAIL PROTECTED] Elitism or meritocracy? In The Karma of Brown Folk, Vijay Prashad examines the model minority that many in the south Asian community in the United States of America believe that they belong to. He argues that American Orientalists (including ideologues like the immigrant from Goa, Dinesh DSouza), have perpetuated the stereotype that south Asian immigrants (unlike the blacks) are a special breed. They are said to demonstrate the finest qualities of hard work and an impatience to succeed. He goes on to paraphrase DSouza as arguing in his book, The End of Racism, that the oppressive conditions of life among black Americans is more a result of their civilizational collapse than of the persistence of structures of racial discrimination. Prashad takes the contrary position that this is a false contrast of racial stereotypes. He says that the attainments of Asians in the US are not caused by natural or cultural selection; rather, they are the result of state selection whereby the US state, through the special-skills provisions in the 1965 Immigration Act, fundamentally reconfigured the demography of south Asian America. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]re: dinesh profile on websites
Thanks to Jose's instigation, I googled Dinesh. But even on his own website he hasn't given details of his herediatry. Made a more specific search on his goan roots on google and here's one of the sites http://www.telegraphindia.com/1040510/asp/opinion/story_3218559.asp Unfortunately, the site http://goacom.com/saligao_tinto/scroll.htm does not list him as one of the proud sons of Saligoa. Maybe rightly so, for Dinesh is a Assagoakar, and a grandson of Saligoa. But the tinto -- http://www.goacom.com/saligao_tinto/balcao.htm#dinesh -- says it's proud of him. here's what the Telegrapha site says: --- THE GREAT INDIAN CLASS TEST COMMENTARAO / S.L. RAO The author is chairman, Institute for Social and Economic Change [EMAIL PROTECTED] Elitism or meritocracy? In The Karma of Brown Folk, Vijay Prashad examines the model minority that many in the south Asian community in the United States of America believe that they belong to. He argues that American Orientalists (including ideologues like the immigrant from Goa, Dinesh DSouza), have perpetuated the stereotype that south Asian immigrants (unlike the blacks) are a special breed. They are said to demonstrate the finest qualities of hard work and an impatience to succeed. He goes on to paraphrase DSouza as arguing in his book, The End of Racism, that the oppressive conditions of life among black Americans is more a result of their civilizational collapse than of the persistence of structures of racial discrimination. Prashad takes the contrary position that this is a false contrast of racial stereotypes. He says that the attainments of Asians in the US are not caused by natural or cultural selection; rather, they are the result of state selection whereby the US state, through the special-skills provisions in the 1965 Immigration Act, fundamentally reconfigured the demography of south Asian America. Eugene Correia PS: Let's put this issue to rest. Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]re: dinesh vs antara link
Here's the link for the dinesh vs antara debate http://www.opendemocracy.net/xhtml/articles/2047.html There's a whole series on My America: Letters to Americans on the site. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]re: the dinesh debate
One of the netters suggested that there's always someone on the net to bring another fellow Goan down. If this is a reference to me, let me point out that I had posed a query. I just wanted to know if Dinesh is a Goan, and that's all. As I said, I was wrongly informed. Just for curiousity (as it does not matter to the core issue), if Dinesh's mom is 'east Indian.' The lady who informed me was of east Indian origin. My point is why would she me this wrong information. Second, as vivian too has noted that some of us may be suffering from 'crab mentality'. This is not the issue here. As Mario says, it should have opened a debate on dinesh's politics and his writings. If i remember correctly, dinesh shunned away from a debate called by Black scholars after his book on race appeared. I would enjoy such a debate and would take part in it vigorously. However, I don't remember much from the two books I read (I didn;t read his book on America). Besides, most of my notes are in Canada and I am in the middle east. But I was fear that it could take the turn such as Mario vs Cornel we saw recently on the list. Frankly, i didn't follow it. I haven't given much time to reading all posts on goanet since i have been in the middle east, unlike i used to when i was in canada. I see too many anti-american books at bookstores. Reading Fareed Zakaria provides the other side of the argument, one that people like dinesh hang on to. In conclusion, let me say i have no intention of bringing dinesh down. Indeed I am happy for him for his success. But ideological I can't be happy on his projection and promotion of the Conservative agenda. Eugene Correia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Re: dinesh
I fully understand the term East Indian as applied to people of Indian or often to those from the Indian subcontinent in the US. Just as Paki used as a racial slur by white supremacists or even racially-prejudice Canadians meant all people originating from the Indian subcontinent. With explanatory articles and defensive arguments, the term has faded away from the mainstream jargon and now replaced by the rubric visible minority. On Dinesh, one can argue his politics. He in on the right and those on the left see him as a arrogant immigrant who made good on his Ivy League education and connection. The Illustrated Weekly had a big story of him and a big photo with Ronald Reagan. I felt he would go much higher in the Republican administration of Bush. Like any one, he has his supporters and distractors. It's fine for Mario to praise him as a Goan who achieved fame. But I would not support him just because he's a Goan. I don't agree with many of his statements and conclusions in the two books I read. As for my earlier reference to dinesh and antara dev sen, it was on the topic, The Wrong America. Her letter to Dinesh: I write to you not just as an Indian to an American, but also as one who shares many of the memories that run in your veins, the colur of the skin over that, and the respect for a good life and democratic freedoms that nestle somewhere in between. I write to you specifically because everyday events frequently remind me of the enormous role the United States of America plays in the lives of distant mortals, and because of your unquestion love for your chosen country that is reflected in the title of your book which has no question mark: What's so great about America. No, I don't hate America. I can't. nurtured by TS Elliot, Ella Fitzgerald and Sylvia Path But Allen Ginsberg howls in my head: America why are your libraries full of tears? millions killed for flimy reasons She gives Vietnam, Guba, Afghanistan and many other countries.. Then she says, No, I don't believe America is evil. Partly becasue every wrong in my McDonald-and-Coke deprived Indian childhoos was blamed on the CIA and its agents, till I almost blamed them for my homework. She goes on to say, It's this Janus-faced America that I wrote to you about... American maybe great, as your book so affectionately explai9ns, but does it not also need to be good? She say ... this is the America I would rather see, America as a just nation that lives the democratic freedoms it preaches... And we remain indebted to an America that is fast become invisible. The last two lines, Shouldn''t your next book be called 'What is fair about America' -- I won't use a question mark either. In his reply, dinesh begins, Reading your letter, I feel a bit like the mosquitor at the nudist colony -- I'm not sure where to begin! He says, Your main quarrel seems to be with American foreign policy... Twice in the past centurey, America's actions played a crucial role in saving freedom -- first, from the threat of Nazi tyranny, and then, from the threat of Soviet imperalism. He says the the war against the evil empire was a just war, and America's victory ikn that war has left the world better and freer. He goes on to explain America's role and tells her that your most serious misunderstanding, in my view, is that you neglect the fundamental principle of American foreign policy, which upon reflection is a deep moral principle. It is the principle of the lesser eveil. He says, What amazes me is that you, like so many others, are content to bash America without any apparent appreciation of the hard decisions that leaders must make. He admits, Sure, America has made its mistakes. My point in quoting both (though I wish I could send the whole piece which is dated August, 2004) is to show that one can take issue with Dinesh on many points. It's the familiar liberal vs conservative fight we continue to see on a much heightened level after the Iraq war, more so with the disclosure that America went to war without the conclusive proof of Iraq having WMD. What we reap now in the form of London bombings, and previous to that Madrid mayhem, is what American foreign policy has brought about. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]re: niz goenkar
Further to Rene's remark on Niz Goenkar, I just want to add on what I read recently. In his book, Goa, Frank Simoes (which I mentioned earlier re: caste debate), he often calls himself blue blooded Goan. Maybe he says that for emphatic reasons or satire on his own caste distinction. True, that the Raul Gama family in Saligoa and the Simoes from Colvale were both aristocratic families. So, I think he can be allowed to call himself blue blooded, while those who were not so lucky can at least call ourselves true blooded, just as Sharon did. Another phrase that comes to mind, Ami Goenkar Te Goenkar. What can one make of this? eugene Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]re: dinesh d'souza
I think dinesh's name has appeared on this list earlier in a different context. that he is a conservative and anti-immigrant is well-known. he earned his reputation for himself being an immigrant who has attacked affirmative action. I have read his two books and many articles. I also think I pointed out here that to the best of my knowledge Dinesh is an east indian. Someone in Canada told me she knew him as a child in Bandra, as both families were from the same area. However, let me add that calling for his ethnic background has nothing to do with my post here, just to ask for clarification whether he is on Goan origin. I have no problems discussing his politics. In fact, just some days ago I found a pro and con article with different views from Antara Dev Sen and Dinesh D'Souza. Here's some background on Antara Antara Dev Sen is the founder and editor of The Little Magazine, published in Delhi and featuring essays, fiction, poetry, art and criticism. She was senior editor at the Hindustan Times and a fellow at the Reuters Foundation in Oxford, England. Antara Dev Sen wrote a Red Cross report on Angola, which involved travelling through rebel territory, and is advisor of Word Without Borders. She also authored India the Eternal Magic (2000) She has written diversely for openDemocracy, contributing to the Letters to America series, on the May 2004 Indian elections and India's reaction to the December 2004 tsunami. Eugene Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [Goanet]Goan experiences Mumbaiites'
Cornel's query regarding true blooded Goan can be best summurized by an appropriate, though not equal, Konkani words, Aum Nix Goenkar. It's just for emphasis. Or, rather hyperbole. Those who often say these words mean that they are Goans to the core. It defies defination. As as extenstion, Indians often says, Aum Bharatiya Aye. No literal translation, but it means we are Indians through and through. In this context, RDK's reply to my post on Britain and immigrants and Rene's subsequent queries are relevant. As RDK says what he said was obvious in relation to the outsider factor in Goa. Goans in Goa, when convenient, blames outsiders for many of the state's problems -- from employment to corruption to shortages of essential items. Migrant labour comes where there is demand such as Biharis going to Punjab to work the fields and settling there in quite a good number. Some of them have become baptized Sikhs. However, these new Sikhs are not welcomed with open arms. Native Sikhs look upon these Sikhs as people who have embraced the religion to gain communal acceptance and for economic reasons. In contrasst, a white person converting to Sikhism is often welcomed with open arms and warm hearts. Ami Goenkar was a battlecry some years ago when the employment problem rose its ugly head in Goa. Similarly, sons-of-the-soil campaign in Goa started but never got a boost. Some political leaders wanted to exploit this ill-conceived slogan for political gain, just as the Shiv Sena used it to gain political mileage from Maharashtrians in the early history of the party. The Congress was powerful in the state and the Shiv Sena used every gimmick to make inroads into the Congress vote banks, large parts of it being Maharashtrians. So, Cornel take heart. Sharon probably wanted to show that she is a brave Goan who weathered the monsoon mayhem and survive to tell a story. Her story is one of the many that may have been heard in those trying -- and crying - monsoon tales. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]diaspora books
Found the book on the net. Want to know from Cornel or other UK goanetters if the book is still available. Eugene Kusoom Vadgama: India in Britain The Indian Contribution to the British Way of Life (Robert Royce Limited, 1984). -- In Diaspora: Theories, Histories, Texts Edited by Makarand Paranjape Over the last twenty years or so, it seems as if the Indian diaspora has suddenly come of age. Shedding its minority status, it has demonstrated its inclination for becoming a majority, not in the sense of numerical superiority, but of growing up, maturing, attaining self-apprehension and self-expression. It can now look at itself, the host country, and the homeland, with a critical humor that has not necessarily dulled its passion or lessened the intensity of its engagement. Moreover, the Indian diaspora has become an important economic force, whose reputed net worth exceeds hundreds of billions of dollars. It is, at once, more mobile and cohesive than ever before, what with faster means of travel and communication. Not only has the old diaspora made inroads into the new, but the access of all the scattered peoples of Indian origin to India, the motherland, has also increased dramatically. Now, it actually seems as if this diaspora has an unprecedented ascendancy and leverage both in the host country and the homeland. Perhaps its days of 'impossible mourning,' to use Vijay Mishra's phrase, might at last be at an end Makarand Paranjape, a widely published scholar, critic, poet, and columnist, is currently Professor of English at the Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi. Contributors Alka Kumar Brinda Bose C. Vijayasree Deepika Bahri Harish Narang Henry Schwarz Jasbir Jain K. Satchidanandan K. S. Maniam Makarand Paranjape Manjit Inder Singh Pratyusha Basu R. Raj Rao Satendra Nandan Shanthini Pillai Shiva Kumar Srinivasan Sudhir Kumar Susanna Checketts Uma Parameswaran Vijay Mishra Vinay Lal Paperback 368 pages Price US $ 10.95 ISBN 81-87981-06-7 http://www.indialog.co.in/publications/indiaspora.asp Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]britain and immigrants
Saw a book titled Bloody Foreigners, published in Britain in 2004 but reissued this year in paperback. I haven't read, but hope it buy it. Did anyone on the goanet read it? This is the type of hysteria that white Britain creates and then the consequences is what we see now happening in that country. No doubt the immigrant Muslim community, and many others, were disturbed with Tony Blair's support to USA in its War Against Terror, the underlying problem seems immigrant distrust and frustration. The social ills of racial discrimination and prejudice takes its own toll. Sad but true. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]re: caste
Yesterday I was going through Frank Simoes's book, Goa, formerly released as Glad Seasons in Goa, and the chapter I read, Radhika's Genealogy Class, he pokes fun at himself, giving twist to the abbreviation, OBC. He tells his dauther, Radhika, it meansOpulent Brahmin Class or Opulent Other Class (I forget while writing). He also makes funny remarks on his wife, a Hindu. As many may be aware, Simoes's wrote satire, besides his regular job as copywrite at his own company. Eugene Correia Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet]re: cybermatrimonials
Can't understand the hullabaloo over mention of caste in cybermatrimonials. If one puts an ad asking for particular caste, the person is within his/her rights. Maybe the person wants to marrying within his/her caste. Banning of adverts requesting that prospective partners meet the requirements is not the answer. The adverts haven't hurt anyone. Those who are looking at issues such as caste in these innocuous posts are people with a deep sense of quilt. The Times of India even had (or still has) a section on NRI grooms. (Not sure of NRI brides). This is just another filter. There may be spinsters looking just for NRIs as prospecive lifepartners. Suppose a caste-conscious person puts an advert without mentioning caste as a prerequisite, the person will be bombarded with more emails. So a filter such as caste helps in narrowing the field.d Why do people put fair-skinned, convent-educated, homely, outgoing? These are obviously to convey a person's strong or plus points. The issue of casteism needs to be tackled in a wider scope and not just through the personal domain of cybermatrimonials. Eugene Sell on Yahoo! Auctions no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
[Goanet]suzie
Suzie Coelho is Goan, and there's no doubt about it. When her father came for the first international goan convention in toronto in 1988, i asked him how suzie was? he was taken aback. he asked me how i knew he was suzie's father. i told him, i know and that's it. later, after his death I said something to the effect that suzie was married to sonny bono for a short time, and she replied to me saying that she was married to him for 9 years (if i remember correctly). Her brother is a professor of music in Calgary. In this I now forget her father's first name. but he was joint editor of the post-convention report, change and continuity, with prof. narendra wagle of toronto university. he didn;t work for world bank, but the health dept. he was a psychologist, i think. he invited me to come to washington when i spoke to him from new york during one of my visits. he didn''t know much of goa. he used to bug prof. jose pereira for lot of information. i think he also came to toronto for a seminar and spoke about something on goa, it was very poor. may be there are some goanetters who attended both the convention and the seminar and they could point out if i am wrong. eugene --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Goanet mailing list submissions to goanet@goanet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Goanet digest... Today's Topics: 1. Indian Immigration Conspiracy- Be careful (Pascoal Vaz) 2. View From The Outer Harbour (20-6-2005) (Thalmann Pereira) 3. Re: El. Power. Goa --TT1 (Think Tank) (halur rasho) 4. Spreading common sense ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 5. Re: Spreading fear through Chain letters (Francisco Colaco) 6. RE: Freedom Fighters. (Tom Carolina) 7. Re: New York Goans. (Jim Fernandes) 8. Re: Migration: Opportunities for children or wanderlust (Gabe Menezes) 9. Re: Recent items from Goanet (Bernado Colaco) 10. Re: Joseph Zuzarte on Feni (Miguel Braganza) 11. Re: Fwd: [Goanet]Susie a Goan? Then Sonny is, too. (Mario Goveia) 12. Telephone woes... for the lack of a phone directory (Frederick Noronha (FN)) 13. RE: Blindspot In Meaningful Aviation Planning (Philip Thomas) 14. RE: RE: Freedom Fighters. (Nasci Caldeira) 15. Sao Joao or 'Sunjanv' TODAY (JoeGoaUk) 16. NHRC pulls up state govts on disabled-friendly infrastructure (Goa Desc) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:21:20 -0400 From: Pascoal Vaz goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Indian Immigration Conspiracy- Be careful Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org Indian Immigration Conspiracy- Be careful This is a well organized conspiracy by Indian Immigration, Police, Customs and Air India staff with networking at all the Indian International Airports. Be watchful when ever you give your passport to Immigration/Customs/Air India staff. The pass port can be easily tampered and can create trouble to you. They have found easy way of making money from NRIs. This is the way it works: At the time of the passenger's departure, if the passenger is not looking at the officer while he is stamping the exit, the officer very cleverly tears away one of the page from the passport. When the passenger leaves the immigration counter, the case is reported on his computer terminal with full details. Now all over India they have got full details of the passenger with Red Flag flashing on the Passport number entered by the departure immigration officer. They have made their money by doing above. On arrival next time, he is interrogated. Subject to the passenger's period of stay abroad, his income and standing etc., the price to get rid of the problem is settled by the Police and Immigration people. If someone argues, his future is spoiled because there are always some innocent fellows who think the honesty is the basis of getting justice in India. Please advise every passenger to be careful at the airport. Whenever they hand over the passport to the counters of Air India, or immigration or the customs, they must be vigilant, should not remove eyes from the passport even if the officer in front tries to divert their attention. Also, please pass this information to all friends, media men and important politicians. Every month 20-30 cases are happening all over India to rob the NRIs the minute he lands. Similar case has happened with Aramco's Arifuddin. He was traveling with his family. They had six passports. They got the visa of America and decided to go via Hyderabad from Jeddah. They reached Hyderabad. Stayed about a month a left for States. When they
[Goanet]branco
When I read somewhere that Micky Pacheco wears rings on his fingers and thick gold chains, I was reminded of Franciso Branco. When I first met him on his victory as Panaji mayor, I was stunned by the jewelry he was wearing. If I remember correctly, he was short and portly. With that physical stature and the jewellery he looked like a mobster. I forget what profession he held before becoming the mayor. I saw pics of Pacheco during the rally in the Goan Observer. Can't believe that elections in Goa are much bigger than the famed carnival. Seems like all this is sizzle but no substance. Nowadays it matters little who wins and who loses. All are painted with the same brush of being corrupt and arrogant. The GO story on Monte Cruz is illustrative of how deep corruption is in Goa. No politician is above board. The people have become complacent. Probably so because there's no alternative. Even a promising party such as UGP has to fall back on Monte Cruz is surprising. If Benaulim projects such a poor picture, Taleigao is not far behind. Or perhaps worse. Floriano Lobo's jumping into the fray maybe akin to committing political harakiri. Good intentions apart, it seems to be from this distance and from reading newspaper reports that Lobo is a non-starter. If he can be a giant-killer, than Lobo would be a political miracle. And miracles is what we need in dear old Goa. Come June 2, we will know. Eugene Correia __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/
[Goanet]cricket and tendulkar's star
The International Cricket Council did a ground breaking ceremony to construct a building in dubai. They are going to be located in the Dubai Sports City, which is one of the many cities coming up here. Abdul Rahman Bukhatir, the man behind cricket in the gulf, said, This is a historic event. we certainly have come a long way in cricket in theis part of the world. This is a very proud day in that we've been able to bring this level of seriousness to the whole matter. Ehsan Mani said that the dubai ceremony represent a fantastic new chapter in the history of the ICC and the game of cricket. The office will open in media city (where i work) on Aug. 1. Chef executive Malcolm Speed that it's very exciting. we're coming to a new culturee. It's not just relocation. we also share the vision of what is going on in dubai. dubai becomes the wrold headquaters for cricket. we're confident other sports will come here too'. speed said that an annual meeting of delegates at Lord's would continute to be held there to maintain tradition. Bukhtair is partner in Sports City. eugene Tendulkar's star http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4589949.stm __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
[Goanet]Re: airfields
Where is the beach in Dabolime? Perhaps, the writer means Bogmalo beach below the airport. The bar's name is Joet. Eugene Correia __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
[Goanet]bad peter and other tiatr stuff
When I was in Goa recently, I attended a tiatr, Kallukant Uzvadd, by comedian Dominic. The reason to attend it in Margoa was to meet some of the old tiatrists such as Prem Kumar and Ophelia who were to be honoured that day. However, the honourees were not present for some reason. I mention this because it was Ophelia who once, when we chatted backstage at Bhangwaddi, remarked to me that I would be in for a surprise. I said what and she smiled away. Then I learnt that she was marrying Bab Peter. It was a May-December wedding, as dear Bab may have been more than 15 years younger than her. I also learnt that the late C. Alvares tried his best to stop this wedding. For those who may not know, C. Alvares dated Ophelia for many years and, I think, the relationship broke when Ophelia moved to Beirut to be with her late sister Mohana. Not surprisingly though, Mohana herself was Alvares's girlfriend. It was a good love affair, I am told. However, I don't know the reason why it fell apart. Future historians of tiatr can investigate. I am not sure if this is mentioned anywhere in the many pieces that appeared after Alvares' death. Coming to Bab Peter, I didn't know him well in later years. I knew him well as a small boy. The reason is that he moved into my building with his family as a sub-tenant. I think Peter's family lived there for not more than six months. It was only when I saw him on stage and his name spread as a budding singer/actor, I realized he was the same Peter I knew as a small kid. However, there was just a casual hi when I bumped into him. But with Ophelia is was a different matter. She spoke freely, though I never got to ask her about her affair with Alvares. During this time Alvares was dating Betty Fernandes. I however talked with other people why Alvares was interfering with her lovelife. Maybe he still had a soft corner for her. I read netter Daniel's interview with Ophelia in Goan Observer. It was heart-warming. I missed the opportunity to meet her. I did enquire about her and other with Wilson Mazrello, of Wilmix, and Cyriaco Dias, who I met at the Vishwa Gomant Sammelan. Cyriaco recognized me when I stood to ask a question during the conference. He then came to the front row where I was sitting and extended his hand. It was a nice meeting after 1988 when he came to Toronto for the first International Goan Convention. Similarly, it was a heart-touching meeting with one two other Goan tiatrists. Walking near Longinos at Margoa I recognized Pramanand Lotlikar walking towards me. I said hello and asked him if he recognized me. He stared at me for a brief time and said yes. He couldn't get my name. We talked for some time and he handed me his business card and I said I would try and meet him at a more convenient time when I come to Margoa. It never happened. Before this another meeting with another tiatrist was refreshing. I didn't know that a tiatr was to be held in a vaddo in Bogmalo on the feast day of St. Sebastian. It was only late at night I got the news. I went but I was late by half an hour to see Tum Asso Sor by Rose Ferns. During the interval I went to the dressing space and said hello to him. He took a long time to recognize and when I told him who I was he suddenly began talking about the times we met in Mumbai. He introduced me to his wife. We talked for a short time and then again after the end of the play. He too said I should drop in his photocopying shop opposite the Vidya Niketan, but I didn't get a chance. It was nice reconnecting with tiatrists after a long time. I saw just two tiatrs. I found Roseferns' tiatr to have gone the soap opera way, as he used some effects from the Hindi soaps that so many Goan families watch fervently. Again coming to Bab Peter, I didn't see him as an actor in the classic mold in the few tiatrs I saw him take part. He survived in the highly-competitive world of Goan theatre. Ophelia, in contrast, was a class by herself. Eugene Correia __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
[Goanet]Lorna
It's heartening to know that Lorna still regales Goan crowds wherever she goes. I saw another new CD released in Goa titled From Goa to Lisboa, which has her old numbers. I think there are at least two earlier cassettes/CDs, I think, titled, Unforgetable Lorna, and Golden Hits, by her. Besides, her songs have been sung by other singers on cassettes and CDs. Her voice may not be the same, but that she still commands attention in a crowd field of women singers in Goa speaks greatly in her honour. Are we still crazy to hear the frequet 'repackaging' of Lorna? Eugene Correia __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
[Goanet]Margaret's piece
Margaret has made her point clear. It's easy to understand her because of the nature of her job or jobs. She needs money to make a living, and writing/editing and conducting writing workshops is what she does. I also understand Tony's case as someone eager to publish his writings. He wants his writings to be edited and he felt those like Margaret could help in in his venture. One clearly sees a clash of motives. I, however, wish that Tony had not gone to the extreme and, as he eventually did, publish on his own. Though I try to understand that writers such as Tony and also my friend Valentino Fernandes rush to publish, I wish they would take more time to go through their manuscripts. Tony's took one of his former collegague at Gomantak Times help in getting his book edited. During my recent trip to Goa and my visit to Tony in Canacona I remarked to him that his book seemed to be a mish-mash of things and the title, Naked Goa, seems inappropriate. Some issues are irrevalant to the Goan scene. Valentino's book, How to be an Instant Goan, is partly written in a lighter vein. He has made many generalizations, especially on the lifestyles of Goans abroad. Admittedly, he talked to some overseas Goans who, I feel, just blurt out their opinions without serious thoughts. It's a book that one may want to read just for some of off-the-cuff remarks and unfounded observations. I read also Ben Antao's book, Goa Rediscovered, and Frank Simoes' book Goa, formerly named Glad Seasons in Goa. Though I am still in the process of finishing Simoes' book, I can say it's very different both in style and substance to Antao's book. Simoes' book is also huge compared to Antao's. Well, Simoes has been published by Rupa (I think) while Antao has been published by himself or perhaps jointly with Goan Observer. I don't have the copies of the book in front of me as I am writing from an internet cafe. More of Antao's and Simoes book later. Also will touch on Margaret and her opinion on Silviano's book. Eugene Correia __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
[Goanet]remo in dubai
Remo and Ian Anderson of the Jethro Tull group teamed up well at a concert here in Dubai. Remo's solo effort began with Undir Mojea Mama. He introduced himself saying he was from Goa and then while sipping water from a soda told the audience in Konkani that it's wasn't feni. He followed it up with a flute composition on a folksong from north-east india, and then went into the the familiar Ho Meri Munni, and the rock hit Bombay City. Supported ably by Sivamuni on the drums and another drummer on the south indian drum and a bass guitarist, Remo and Ian played some combined pieces on the flute. Both complimented each other in song and and instruments and both praised each other's skills. Remo said it was a privilege to play in Ian's company and it was a great moment to jam with the English group that played ballards and old Victorian tunes. Ian also drew laughter with his jokes, once saying if Dubai decides to build England in the ocean that could get f***ing Blair with it. The Jebel Ali area has become famous for the offshore man-made islands The Palm, and The World. Unfortunately, could not attend the show at the Global Village which featured Indian artistes, including the Goan singer Hema Sardesai. Wished the Goans here, or at least some Goan entrepreneurs or organizations, had organized a show feasturing both Remo and Hema. Eugene Correia __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo
[Goanet]last two stories on pravasi divas
Leading lights from the diaspora show paths to further progress From Eugene Correia MUMBAI: While European Parliament MP, Nina Gill, thought people of Indian origin have spiced up the world, UN Under-Secretary, Shashi Tharoor, felt that the term NRI meant Never Relinquished India and telecommunications entrepreneur, Sam Pitroda, opined that corporate successes is a given but a generation change is needed in the social sector. They were taking part in the plenary session of New Initiatives for the Diasora which was chaired by Lord Navnit Dhalakia, with other diaspora panelists, Dato Seri S. Samy Vellu, Malaysias Minister of Works, A.R. Bundhun, Vice-President, Mauritius, Dr. Basdeo Pandey, Leader of the Opposition, Trnidad and Tobago, Dr P. Mohamed Ali, MD, Galfar Engineering Contracting, Sultanate of Oman, and Vijay Amritraj, President, First Serve Entertainment, USA. To show the extent to what level the influence of Indian diaspora has penetrated into the workplace in the world, Shashi Tharoor remarked that British curry houses employ more workers than in the iron, steel, coal, shipping and mining industries combined. Its one example of how the Empire can strike back, he quipped, drawing a big laugh from the crowd. He said that events like the PBD were necessary for Indians to voice their concerns and share their values. Sometimes the value of a conference lies in conferring, he added. Tharoor said that overseas Indians have contributed richly in diverse fields both in India and where they live and that they should be accorded the right to vote. Providing the example of Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) as a brand name recognized as much as MIT, the UN official said India is no longer known as a land of begging bowls and snake-charmers. He remarked that for far too long it was believed that the only country Indians cannot succeed is in India He began his address saying light-heartedly but carrying a thought-provoking commentary on Indias secularism that where can one see a Muslim President appointing a Sikh Prime Minister made room for him by a Roman Catholic politician.. Nina Gill urged the overseas Indian youth to get involved in politics and gave brief details of her own rise in politics. There a few and far in between in politics, she added. She said she refused to be taken as a second-class citizen because of her race. I was articulate and I set up an organization to fight back. Indian families encouraged their children to excel in the professions and, therefore, very few of these overseas Indian youth take up public office, she remarked. Sam Pitroda said he was ridiculed as one of the computer boys when he tried to usher in the communications revolution, but the state of the country has shown his vision has succeeded. He, however, warned that the technology success shouldnt make India sit back and relax but work harder to provide similar success in the social sector. Besides the economic reforms, there must be judicial, administrative and political reforms, he demanded. He called upon the government to build at least ten large cities in fresh urban setting, while recommending a 10-point program to elevate poverty and improve growth. == Citizenship for all overseas Indians From Eugene Correia MUMBAI: The overseas delegates to the third Pravasi Bharatiya Divas burst into a thunderous applause when Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh declared the governments decision to extend dual citizenship to people of Indian origin living in all countries. As the applause from more than 2,500 delegates and invitees to the opening ceremony at the S.N. Kohli ground in Navynagar, South Mumbai, died down, Singh added a condition to the qualification, saying that only those who migrated after Jan. 26, 1950 would be eligible and if only their host countries allowed. The dual nationality was first offered to overseas Indians in eight countries, including US and Canada, and then eight more countries were added. The immediate reaction to this clause was not seen in the packed audience, but during the following two days of the event, many overseas Indians were not sure how it would work out. The PM asked the government and the bureaucracy be forgiven because little has happened to implement this declaration of intent since the dual citizenship was announced at last years meet. I do hope that a day will come when every single overseas Indian who wishes to secure Indian citizenship will actually be able to do so, he said enthusiastically. He asked for more time and called for patience from overseas Indians till the government creates a user-friendly form instead of the three-layered one. Singh said that the government may consider using smart card for security reasons, and that he has requested concerned ministries to spell out the benefits of registering overseas citizenship. Despite the differences in religion, cuisine and costume
[Goanet]mea culpa
Peter D'Souza rightly pointed my mistake in writing Sanjay Gandhi as PM. It was Rajiv, no doubt. I may have made other errors, and the one I noticed while scrolling through the stories on goanet is that I said Chair in the story on entertainment. It should be American Chai. Filing stories for both a Toronto paper and India West in San Francisco at the media centre at the end of an exhausting day was painful, more so because of the prevailing conditions in the media centre. The centre was noisy, crowded and badly organized. The Press Information Bureau (PIB) officials were not very helpful. I and many others had lot of problems with them, from getting our media passes to special police clearance to cover the last day when the president spoke. It was so frustrating that I yelled at one of them, who behaved as a big-shot babu. Despite a senior official telling one of the junior officials to issue me a pass, after showing him the credentials and also the messages from the Consul General in Toronto to the MEA, he behaved in a rude manner. He had given me a hard time on the inaugural day, keeping me outside the gate for more than a hour until a senior official issued me an invite. This guy told me I would not be allowed to cover as I didn't have a J visa, issued for journalists. Even telling him that I came via Dubai where a tourist visa was issued to me, he was adamant. Ultimately, I got the pass. I had applied in November 2004 and I had a copy of the email that the Toronto Consulate had sent to the MEA in the same month. The applications had to be routed through Indian diplomatic missions. But no excuse for mistakes. As many journalists would vouch, when faced with deadline and with more than one story to write, it is a race against time. Errors crop in and, hence, there are desk people who must catch such mistakes. Eugene __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - What will yours do? http://my.yahoo.com
[Goanet]Maria Aurora Couto's yearend remarks on Goa
Date:06/01/2005 URL: http://www.thehindu.com/2005/01/06/stories/2005010604721000.htm Opinion - Leader Page Articles Dangerous currents By Maria Aurora Couto History and memory need to be recovered by both the Hindu and Catholic communities of Goa but not with crude productions that distort and telescope unrelated events to create divisive hatreds.
[Goanet]pbd--- youth
Call for youth to join in Indias progress From Eugene Correia Mumbai: Three young Members of Parliament (MP), with one common characteristic of having studied abroad and worked abroad, B. J. Panda, Milind Deora, and Manvendra Singh, brought their own experiences of living abroad and unveiled their vision for a new India. Hailed as part of the new breed of Indian MPs, the three spelled out the things that need to be done to by the new generation of India to enhance and improve Indias image at home and abroad. At the plenary session on India and the Generation Next, the three MPs, who formed the part of Indian panelists, were joined by diaspora youth panelists, Prof. Premnarine Misir, Pro-Chancellor, University of Guyana, Vigneswaran, MP and Parliamentary Secretary for Ministry of Youth and Sports, Malaysia, Dharmesh Mistry, Management Consultant, who left his job in the UK to work with Indicops, a voluntary group, in India, and Dr. Amitabha Ghosh, NASA scientist. Moderated by Prithviraj Chavan, Minister of State in the Prime Ministers Office, and himself a returned expatriate, the debate took a lively turns. Dr. Ghosh was very critical of government services, saying he found that many slum dwellers had a fridge, a TV and a motorbike but no essential services like water and sanitation. The picture, according to him, says that the private sector has delivered but the government sector has failed. It drew a clarification from Manvendra Singh that the slums are illegal and, hence, theres no question of providing them with either water or sanitation. It was Mistry who articulated very well the need for overseas Indian youth to provide voluntarily their knowledge and skills to India. He said he has high hopes India would come on top and the youth would lead the way. Both Panda and Deora said that not much must be made of the fact they are young MPs. They chose to get into politics to help change the face of India. Milind is son of former MP, Murli Deora, who regained the South Bombay seat for the Congress, while Manvendra, BJP MP, is son of former BJP Minister, Jaswant Singh. Panda (Janata Dal is member of Rajya Sabha. There was the group of diaspora interns, who came to India from different countries for a two-week visit. The group went to many universities and other places. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
[Goanet]bpd every two years
Pravasi Bharatiya Divas may be held every two years From Eugene Correia Mumbai: Though there has been no official announcement, the Indian government may hold the Pravasi Bharatiya Divas every two years. The organizers, FICCI and the newly created Ministry for Overseas Indians Affairs, said that 2,500 delegates participated, the highest so far. The previous two meets were held in Delhi. There has been criticism that the PBD is nothing but a jamboree where nothing of significance gets achieved. However, opinions on its worth is divided. It seems a good idea to have the event every second year and the intervening year filled with an economic meet. With the organizers trying to pack as much possible within the three days, the business community does not get enough time to network. Those who have attended the previous two meets say that the issues are repeated. By holding it every two years, it would give the government and the diaspora community time to take stock of the government promises and of new issues. __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
[Goanet]pravasi divas -- awardees
Pitroda, Bhagwati, Shyamalan among awardees by Eugene Correia Mumbai: Fifteen people of Indian origin were honoured with the Pravasi Bharatiya Samman Awards on the concluding day of the third Pravasi Divas in Mumbai on Jan. 9. Three of them are based in the United States -- Dr. Sam Pitroda, the man who pioneered the telecommunications era in modern India as Technology Advisor to the late Indian Prime Minister Sanjay Gandhi, Prof. Jagdish Bhagwati, of Columbia University, who is engaged in writing about developmental economics and has authored many papers on India's economy, Prof. Sunil Khilani, who teaches political science at John Hopkins University, Washington, DC, author Vikram Seth, who divides his time between India and USA, often in San Francisco, California. and filmmaker Manoj Night Shyamalan. Former Prime Minister of Trinidad and Tobago and now the Opposition leader, Basdeo Panday, Lord Bhiku Chhotalal Parekh, a political scientist who has contributed tremendously to socio-political studies in both UK and India, Amina Cachalia, a social activist who founded the Women's Progressive Union in South Africa, Ahmed Kathrada, also from South Africa and a social activist who served in Nelson Mandela's cabinet, Alokeranjan Dasgupta, a noted translator of Bengali poetry and former teacher at the South Asian Institute, University of Heidelberg, Vijay Singh, one of the world's leading golfer, from Fiji, J.K. Chande, a community leader in Tanzania, M. Arunachalam, Hong Kong businessmen and cultural activist, M.A. Yussuffali, who runs a big grocery business in the United Arab Emirates and also engaged in many charitable organizations, and Sant Singh Virmani, of the Phillipines, renowned for his research work in hybrid rice. Shymalan, Seth, Prof. Bhagwati and Vijay Singh were absent. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
[Goanet]pravasi divas -- gulf nris
Gulf NRIs get special attention by Eugene Correia Mumbai: Indians in the Persian Gulf region were accorded a special session to deal with their issues and problems. Many representatives from this region -- United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait -- asked that the government look into such issues as exploitation of hoursemaids, cheaper air fares, work contracts, and recruitment agencies. Minister for Overseas Indians Affairs, Jagdish Tytler, was emotional when he spoke of the plight of Indian housemaids in Oman and angry with those people who dupe innocent workers with jobs in the Gulf only to leave them out in the cold. While seeking help from Gulf NRIs in stopping illegal practices of hiring workers under false pretexts,. Tytler said he would not hesitate in cancelling passports of those found guilty of exploiting such workers. He said that the government is thinking of setting up a corporate law office in Dubai to take up cases on behalf of workers who have been wronged. Tytler informed that certain rules have been put in place where the interests of the housemaids have been taken care of, such as proper documentation and also the setting the age limit of 30 years for housemaids who want to work in the Gulf. Issues such as getting NRIs on electoral roles and allotment of quota for children of Gulf NRIs also came for discussion. One delegate pointed out that calling Indians working in the Gulf NRIs was wrong, because they are not settled there but are only on working contracts. __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
[Goanet]pravasi divas
i attended the three-day Pravasi Bharatiya Divas in Mumbai. Spotted Goa NRI Fecilitation Committee chairman Chandrakant Keni in lineup at the food stall of Goan dishes. Spoke to him briefly. Didn't see the others members of the committee. Special session on Gulf NRIs. Lots of complaints, but overwhelming demand for cheaper airlines to Kerala and direct flights from Abu Dhabi, Oman and Qatar. Kerala CM too joined in. Would Goans make similar demand for direct flights to Dabolim? Met some Mangaloreans from Kuwait at the Goan food stall. Will file brief reports once I return to Goa. eugene __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
[Goanet]new moble number
my new mobile number for goa is 9823455159 eugene __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
[Goanet]for viviana
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## I am told Viviana and Aristo are in Goa. if anyone knows where they are, please let me know how to contact them, such as telephone number, etc. I am in Bogmalo and my cell number is 9890479418. unfortunately, i can't get calls on this in bogmalo because of the range problem. when I go to the hilltop at dabolim or vasco i get the calls. however, my home number is 2538004, but at times i am not at home. eugene __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com
