Re: [Goanet] The Mess That is Goa - Personal Ramblings
Ha, Aristo, that little jewel embedded in all that volume: "I myself, will eventually become one, I presume." And may we presume from the tone of your paragraph that you will be in the most favorable category of QUOTE there are those who still have a loyalty to Goa, and are elsewhere in order to earn some good money in their professions, because either the profession or the money is not available in Goa, but they contribute in some way or other and eventually return to their homeland UNQUOTE. Nice mandate laid out for yourself. No consideration for the future ie will you get married? Will your family prefer to stay overseas permanently? Or perhaps you are of the male dominant category that will make the family do what you want to do. Not counting the possibility that you yourself no matter what you say today, may likely change your mind tomorrow. You have a poor understanding of the meaning of the word NRIs, because referring to your remarks about pledging loyalty to their new country of citizenship, one could scarcely call them NRIs which means non-resident INDIANS, while those you speak of are really (to you) foreign citizens. Why are all those who are so touchy about the reality of the mess either a) freshly off the boat from Goa (Sunith) or b) would have made a beeline to themselves leave if they were younger and therfore up to the challenge (Cecil) or c) hope to go overseas, contribute to Goa while they are there and return to Goa (Aristo). They immediately and in a knee-jerk manner confuse criticism for 1) disloyalty to Goa 2) non-contribution to Goa (yes they have gone deep into seeing whether such contribution has been made by others or not) or 3) some other secret agenda they can make up to obfuscate the real issue (example no Goans living outside are making contributions to the countries they live in, because the country is already well developed). That latter argument of course assumes that no contribution need be made to any developed country. It will remain developed since it was already developed. Exit the dynamic of nationhood, enter the theory of once a country develops, it will remain developed forever. Makes one wonder why all that solicited immigration is necessary. Roland. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] What's wrong with Goans ?
Dear Goenkar bhaowa gabbe, magta tuka bori saude ani bollikee. DEV BOREM KORUM. if you have Seeen goo of late, it will remind you that the fiesta time siesta time is over for goans. They have to abandon relaxation, partying and take up arms. The place is fallin apart at home boy. trust me, if an agend aint formed sooner to safeguard our intersts we gonna sink. we can be in england, kuwait, s. arabia, canada, the usa or any other part of the world but our root that is goan cannot be ignored. to do this would be our shortsightedness. All right thinking goans with deep pockets should think of creating and investing in projects that shall be our financial hub in the heartland. dont abandon the boat pls. tomm Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Goanetters meeting on 21st December
Hi Vivian, Thanks for informing us of the Goanetters meeting on the 21st December at Foodlands in Miramar. Normally we have it at the Quarter-Deck, opp the Mandovi Hotel. Can we have it there, this is just a suggestion. Will be there. Ana Maria de Souza-Goswami Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Pratap Naik visits Tokyo
I will be at Tokyo, Japan from 3 December noon to 14 December morning 2006 to attend and to read a paper related to contribution of Jesuits to Education and Konknni in Goa during the period 1542-1759 at Institute of Asian Cultures of Sophia University, Tokyo. I will be staying at : Jesuit House 7-1, Kioi-cho, chiyoda-ku Tokyo 102-8571 Japan Tel: 3238-5151/5058 Fax 3238-5056 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will be delighted to meet and interact with any Konknnis (Konknni speakers) who are living in Tokyo. Fr. Pratap Naik, S.J. Director Thomas Stephens Konknni Kendr Alto Porvorim, Goa. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] GREAT MEN OF GOA
Dear Marcos, Your piece on the Great Men of Goa made indeed a very pleasant and enlightening reading. As I said in another e-mail, I concur entirely with Paulo Colaco Dias and with Tony Correia Afonso, and have made some observations of my own. Now kindly permit me to correct a small mistake which you made in your following paragraph: +Lt. MANOEL CAETANO PINTO was executed by the Portuguese as the key conspirator in the "PINTO Conspiracy" in l888 ( a plot to throw the Portuguese out of GOA that came to nought because of betrayal by the brother of one of the conspirators);. The so-called "Conjuracao dos Pintos" happened in 1787 and not in 1888, as you yourself mentioned in a later paragraph while dealing about the leaders of that conspiracy Fr. Jose Antonio Goncalves and Fr. Caetano Francisco do Couto (Incidentally, I was under the impression that the latter - Couto - had also managed to escape, like Fr. Goncalves; but you say that he was apprehended, tried and deported to Portugal - which, of course, I have no reason to contest or to doubt). Dr. Jaime Rangel was not the founder of the famous "Tipografia Rangel" of Bastora. It was his father Janim Rangel. Jaime was Janim's worthy successor at the helm of the affairs of that "Tipografia" which flourished under him. Jorge Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Great Men of Goa
Congrats. to Marcos Catao for producing such an interesting and exhaustive list of "Great Men of Goa." As a "Senior" Goan, I am ashamed to admit that, with a few exceptions, I wasn't aware of the great contribution our Goans have made in a variety of fields. Well done Marcos! Best wishes Mervyn(Maciel) Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Church - Priests & Ministers
In my earlier message, it was said that I would not be able to accept new changes viz. married priests.. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-November/051071.html For that matter, I don't even accept when the lay people distribute Holy Communion at Old Goa and at many Parishes in Goa. Don't know why we need such lay people where we have so many priests (perhaps, more and more priests are going on foreign trips mainly to accumulate wealth?) I know for sure that a priest from Mandur go to Europe very often and even say masses in Goan houses (e.g. UK Houses are not as big as Goans, also it seems saying mass in houses are banned in Goa, but the rule does not apply abroad ?) The Goans who thus come for the Mass would contribute 50pound each or more and give to the priest, 50=Rs.4000+. Yet there are some who would accumulate wealth by other means. The money thus gathered is well managed by them perhaps by sending to various family/relatives or very close friends' bank accounts. Most get away with it as we take them as 'next to God' and some are not so lucky... Church is yet to explain as to why Rs.80 lakhs were found in a deceased priest's room at S.Goa. Perhaps, he did not get time to manage it as death was sudden ? (I dare anyone to challenge me on this Rs.80 Lakhs cash found, which I also mentioned 8 months ago). Coming back to distribution of communion, what about the Nuns ? Can't they take over or cover for the shortages of priest if any? I suppose, there is at least one convent or nunnery per village. Plus, there are sometimes, brothers (Sr. student Priests who are sent to parishes on ' Regency ' 6 months). Why we choose the lay people for the communion or handling the 'live Jesus Christ'? And what is the criteria in selecting such ministers ? Money ? Donations ? Prestige ? Bhattkarponn? I know for fact, there is one man who had an affair with his sister in law who was also staying in his house. His wife was overweight so he was using his sister?. Just to please the society, he decided to find one husband to his sister in law who in turn marry a boy from the same neighbourhood. Lot of dowry given (courtesy, brother in law). Perhaps, he thought by doing so he could buy them both. After spending just one day/nite at her husband's the couple came back to her sister's but this time her brother in law would not let her go saying that they both should stay at his place for good. The new husband disagreed and left the house leaving behind his wife. That's it. Marriage is ruined nor she would agree for a divorce. The then parish priests were aware of all this so also the entire village. I was shocked to know when I fist heard this wicked man is one of the ministers at the very same church. The boy recently died as his life was shattered, he lost his job and was not in a proper state of mind. There are other instances too in the same parish like a lady minister and her past life etc. In view of above, I have one suggestion: Let the Holy communion be kept at one or two or more central place/s and let the people come forward and help themselves without other people needing to serve them. And when we receive Lord, not only our hearts should be clean but also our hands etc And I, as a sick & a sinner, would always say.. Saiba, tum mhojea bhitor euchem maka favona, punn tujea eka utran-uch maka bholaki meutoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Absence of women on Goanet
Maybe start another raffle?! Helga > Hi Selma > I reckon we definitely have more than one female Goanetter at present. My > question however, is how do we increase the numbers? > Regards Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Goan village life through the eyes of a Karachi Goan, now settled in USA
Sounds like a holidayers' Goa to me! Reena, don't get bugged by this comment... :-) For the Goan-in-Goa, life is about (no, not *just* corrupt politicians as seen from a cyber-perspective, or the explanations dished out by editors wanting to sell papers) lack of opportunity, a badly broken transport system, health-care that is unreliable for the most (leave aside not handling heart ailments or kidney ones, even in Canacona), conservatism, caste-based and other bigotry, unfair land ownership and control (despite the romanticisation of the Comunidades), and the realisation that the fight over the resources and takeover of land isn't just a 21st century phenomenon but has been going on for decades, generations, and centuries. But do these perspectives surface at all? Of course not, most of those affected by them simply don't have a voice. So what kind of rose-tinted Goa are we imagining? FN On 28/11/06, Reena Martins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the midst of piling work, I stole a few minutes to drift away. Your > narrative > provided that welcome escape-what with the birds calling their mates, the > water > buffaloes strolling through fields of paddytopped by sandwiches, patties > and > boiled gram at Our Lady's visit! > Thanks. I enjoyed your style. > Reena > > Rodrigues Roy wrote: > > > Although it was quite a hectic trip -- what mattered most it went very well. > > All my dental work is now complete and I told the dentist, Dr. Hubert > > Gomes -- of course, jokingly -- I hope not to see him and his staff ever > > again! Not that they a bad bunch. They, on the contrary, were so friendly > > ... -- FN 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 (phone calls after 1 pm please) FLOSS, geeks, blogs: [http://planet.foss.in/] Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Absence of women on Goanet
On 29/11/06, Cornel DaCosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Selma > I reckon we definitely have more than one female Goanetter at present. My > question however, is how do we increase the numbers? > Regards > Cornel RESPONSE: How about you offer the first Lady to come on to Goanet now, a dinner for two with you as host? -- DEV BOREM KORUM. Gabe Menezes. London, England Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Married Catholic priests in the UK
I am sure the Catholic (G) is for Gay Wilson __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Goa fails to be the new Cannes
Goa fails to be the new Cannes Puja Talwar http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&slug=Goa+fails+to+be+the+new+Cannes&id=97164 Wednesday, November 29, 2006 (Panaji): India's dream to host a world class film festival like Cannes or Berlinale remains just that a dream. Three years ago in an attempt to mirror the Cannes experiment the festival was taken out of Delhi and shifted to Goa an attempt to inject a dash of glamour to an otherwise bureaucratic event. We takes a hard look at whether the move has helped or have the bureaucrats simply changed into beach shorts. Holiday attraction It is to tap into the charms of a Goan holiday that three years ago IFFI was permanently shifted from New Delhi to the coastal state. Its laidback sun and sands, cruises, coves and holiday homes, organisers thought would work as a magnet for tourists and film buffs and make Goa, country's answer to the famous seaside fest of Cannes. But it is this very holiday attraction that seems to be working against the film fest. ''That's the weakness of the festival. The focus seems to be on tourism rather than cinema. Cannes is great place to be at that time of the year. But the focus is always on cinema," said Saibal Chatterjee, Film columnist. "There are big film stars, really big directors but the focus never moves away from movies. That's the problem here. There are too many personalities. The focus seems to be on personalities rather than the work they do," Chatterjee added. ''Goa for all its beauty does not have a film culture. We have been cribbing about Delhi. But Delhi has an audience that wants to watch these films. Here they only come to see the film stars and walk away," he further said. Delhi red tape Delhi for years was a hub of IFFI but Delhi was too much red tape. So did Goa break the ice? ''The problem with Delhi was, it was too bureaucratic. We thought Goa would be idyllic. But Goa has become even more bureaucratic because here two governments are involved," said Bobby Bedi, Producer. ''I would like it if it was in Delhi because I live there. Film festival is a place where the infrastructure should be in place, lots of open forums for actors, directors to interact," said Nandita Das, Actress. Then there is the Goa brigade mostly from Bollywood all out in support of the shift. "Goa is the only place where it should be held. It has a great atmosphere. We should remove the serious attitude that is attached to such film fests and just enjoy it. Its a great place, great weather," said Nikhil Advani, Director, Producer. ''At the film festival circuit, the films do get its due attention. Then there's curiosity about the place. And what better way and place to be," said Shiny Ahuja, Actor. ''Goa has always been my favourite. It's picturesque. I love the atmosphere. International buyers have a great opportunity here. It's a great place to do both work and have fun," said Shilpa Shetty, actress. Divided house ''It is the perfect venue. It will take some time to adjust and get things in place," said Praveen Dabas, Actor. But what emerges in this fairly divided house is not whether the film festival should be held in Delhi or Goa or someplace else but who should hold it. It is on this point on and off camera they all agree. Goa or no Goa the government as an organiser should go. ''One big change we need is the government to move away from the fest. It should just be a benevolent sponsor," said Bedi. -- FN 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 (phone calls after 1 pm please) FLOSS, geeks, blogs: [http://planet.foss.in/] Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Absence of women on Goanet
Why surprised Selma? Are there any women on the 'up to date' list of Great Goan men? Or was a list of Great Goan MEN!? As far as lists are concerned this one had less statistical merit than People Magazine's Sexiest Men Alive! But maybe we can start one for women? Let me put at Number# 1 the much maligned but highly indispensable Goan Maid. The same one that got bashed in the last few posts for her lack of work ethic and loose morals! Helga > > >> Dear Sachin, >> I don't think there are any women on Goanet and as the last surviving >> member of that now nearly extinct species, let me give you my opinion... > Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Tickets for Goa Sudharop raffle
George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So far 105 tickets have sold. Folks, This is great news! This is great news because: 1) It is proof that people here care about Goa. 2) Some people made their commitment right away. 3) The backing for the work Goa Sudharop does is a nice reward to those with the organization (who are really committed to Goans and Goan causes). Fund raising can be a joy. When it is successful, both the giver and receiver are left happier. I can only hope that the momentum of this great start gets stronger. Please remember, tickets can only be sold for a few days and the raffle draw is on December 15th, 2006. Mervyn3.0 > Use can now pay for tickets through PAYPAL on the > Goa Sudharop website at www.goasudharop.org (you > don't need a Paypal account, just a credit card). > Whether you pay through Paypal or mail a cheque for > tickets, please email Melanie Moniz at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to let her know so she > can track payments with tickets. You will be > assigned ticket #'s for the drawing to be held on > Dec 15 (no hard-copy tickets). See complete details > below. > > Please forward this message to your family/friends. > Thank you for your support. > > Goa Sudharop __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Bhakti wins Commonwealth Gold, Goa completes treble!
Goa's Woman FIDE Master Bhakti Kulkarni (ELO 2062) added another Gold medal and a feather in her cap in the Commonwealth Chess Championships to complete a scintillating run for the Goan Chess players in 2006. First, in the month of June, Bhakti won the Gold in the Asian Under 14 in Teheran, Iran. Next in September, wondergirl Ivana Furtado won the Gold in the World Under 8 in Batumi, Georgia. The final icing on the cake was provided by Bhakti again when she won Gold in the Under 16 section of the Commonwealth Chess Championships that concluded today at the Eskay Resorts venue in Borivali, Mumbai. All this has happened in a space of 6 months and that too from the tiny state of Goa which was previously unheard of in the field of chess!! Bhakti finished with 5.5 points out of a possible 10. She finished with a performance rating of 2243 and she will be gaining a whopping 43 FIDE rating points for her efforts. Although she is in the Under 14 section, her display earned her a Gold in the Under 16 section for her exquisite performance. In her sterling display, she beat FIDE Master Priyadarshan (ELO ), WIM and Asian Junior Champion Mary Ann Gomes (ELO 2264), young upcoming star M. R. Lalith Babu (ELO 2292) and local favourite Ramkrishna Kashelkar (ELO 2323). Bhakti also held Jammu Open winner International Master Himanshu Sharma (ELO 2387) to a creditable draw during the course of the tournament. Bhakti's coach and India's only Dronacharya Awardee Raghunandan Gokhale expressed happiness with Bhakti's efforts. He said that the standard of Bhakti's games had been very good and singled out her game against former Asian Gold Medallist Priyadarshan where her one move 'Bd8' led to a Zugzwang position and deprived her opponent any suitable move without involving a huge loss in material. Even in her loss with Singapore Grandmaster Wu Shaobin (ELO 2475), Bhakti earned heaps of praise from her fancied opponent for the fight that she put up. AICF Vice President and GSCA President Sameer A. Salgaocar flew in specially from China for the Prize Distribution ceremony said that Bhakti had provided him with a perfect welcome gift. He also accepted special award of recognition on behalf of World Under 8 Champion Ivana Furtado from Commonwealth President Grandmaster Nigel Short. In the Open section, British Grandmaster Nigel Short (ELO 2677) clinched the top spot with a win over National Champion GM Ganguly (ELO 2573) in the final round. Nigel finished with 9 points and won by a clear point margin from GM Sandipan Chanda (ELO 2550) and IM Venkatesh (ELO 2466) who finished second and third respectively. World Under 18 Gold medallist and WGM Dronavalli Harika (ELO 2353) finished first in the Women's section with 7 points. SOURCE: Sameer A. Salgaocar, President- GSCA Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Goa news for November 30, 2006
Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** India lacks sheen to host world class fest (NDTV) In the stunning beaches of Goa yet another International Film Festival of India or IFFI is drawing to a close but during a run through newspapers or switching on the TV one wouldn't know it. http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&slug=India lacks sheen to host world class fest&id=97160 *** Goa Carbon Board Recommends Dividend Of Re. 1.50/sh For FY06 (Nasdaq) (RTTNews) - Goa Carbon informed that the Board recommended a dividend of Re. 1.50 per share for the fiscal year 2006. http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20061126\ACQRTT200611262343RTTRADERUSEQUITY_0104.htm&; *** Goa fails to be the new Cannes (NDTV) India's dream to host a world class film festival like Cannes or Berlinale remains just that a dream. Three years ago in an attempt to mirror the Cannes experiment the festival was taken out of Delhi and shifted to Goa an attempt to inject a dash of glamour to an otherwise bureaucratic event. http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&slug=Goa fails to be the new Cannes&id=97164 *** Changing face of IFFI (NDTV) Before the International Film Festival of India moved to Goa, there was a time briefly in its history when the festival held promise of greatness. It drew world class films and world class directors. But like the Indian state, things took a turn for the worse. http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&slug=Changing face of IFFI&id=97172 *** Anurag Basu's Metro unveiled at IFFI (Hindustan Times) Using the platform of the International Film Festival of India (IFFI) in Goa, producers, UTV screened a short trailer to introduce Anurag Basus Metro . Present at the the Q&A session, along with Ronnie Screwvala of UTV and Basu were three cast members: Shilpa Shetty, Shiney Ahuja and Kangana Ranaut. http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1854530,001100030009.htm *** Goof-ups, chaos may take film carnival out of Goa (Hindustan Times) Goa will not be the permanent venue of the annual International Film Festival of India anymore if the Ministry of Information Broadcasting has its way. http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1856255,00110003.htm *** Film bazaar in Goa a success, says CII (New Kerala) Panaji, Nov 29: Goa's five-day Film Bazaar 2006, held in the backdrop of the International Film Festival of India (IFFI) currently underway here, has ended with many business enquiries and possible deals in the pipeline. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnews&id=58488 *** Goa lacks film culture: Jahnu Barua (New Kerala) Panaji, Nov 27: As Goa lacked a film culture, making it a permanent venue of IFFI would be a blunder, award winning Assamese film director Jahnu Barua said. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnews&id=57295 *** India's Dempo Sports Club win 119th Durand Cup (Tribalfootball.com) Goa's Dempo Sports Club overcame JCT Mills, Phagwara, 1-0 to clinch their maiden title in the 119th edition of Durand Cup here at the Ambedkar Stadium, New Delhi, on Monday. http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=19955 *** Win for CPT, Goa Port Trust (Indian Express via Yahoo! India News) Calcutta Port Trust defeated Mumbai Port Trust by a brace in a quarterfinal group league match of the All India Port football championship at SAI. Suren Sardar and Arindam Deb scored once each for the winners. In another match at the same venue, Goa Port Trust beat Paradip Port Trust 2-0. Domnic Rodrigus scored for the winners. http://in.news.yahoo.com/061128/48/69s11.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] What is the Pope's salary? (Yahoo! Answers)
--- "Frederick \"FN\" Noronha" wrote: > > http://ask.yahoo.com/20001115.html > What is the Pope's salary? > Josh > El Paso, Texas > Dear Josh: > A search on "Pope salary" lead us to a thread from a > message board, where someone had posed just that > question. According to one reply, the Pope's > compensation consists of, "a place to stay and > something to eat. I'm sure he does not receive a > salary as you or I would think of a paycheck." > Mario observes: > You guys are kidding, right? You can't be serious! > "A place to stay and something to eat!" For "Il Papa Benny XVI"? The dapper gentleman with the flowing white robe, skull cap, custom fit Gucci shoes, and a shy smile that says, "Mama Mia! I can't believe I just slammed those Muslims again! Whatssa matter with me?" > ROTFLMAO [see footnote], as they say in the internet chat rooms! > Even Goanet's wryster supremo, Cecil Pinto, could not come up with such a comical observation. > Does Queen Liz get a salary? I wonder if Lakshmi Mittal and Bill Gates and Azim Premji get "salaries"? > Why does the King Benny XVI of the Catholics need a salary when he has a LIFETIME appointment and totalitarian control over the gazillions of whatever currency you choose to name? How many Goanetters, who piously contribute every Sunday to keep many of the leadership clergy in the grand lifestyle they have become accustomed to, especially in the west, can afford to wear Gucci shoes? > Of course this does not apply to the many fine priests and nuns in the trenches who toil endlessly and selflessly in spartan and often dangerous conditions, who indeed are happy with "A place to stay and something to eat!" > We have come a long way from the manger where it all began, folks. > "A place to stay and something to eat!" Indeed! > Footnote: Internet dinosaurs, click on the URL http://www.tomax7.com/html/chat_abbrevs.htm#R and look up ROTFLMAO. > Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] The Mess that is Goa/ reply to Selma
Dear Selma and Roland, I don't judge the choices people make nor the reasons for them. If economic circumstance or career development has forced a Goan to seek employment anywhere in the world, it doesn't make them any less Goan than someone living or working in Goa. However if they express happiness that they now have nothing to do with Goa and constantly predict doomsday scenarios for resident Goans based on their one week holidays, then I will not stand for it. Goanet is surely not the forum for a person to repeatedly promote the so called advantages they see in emigrating to, growing up and living in Dubai or Canada, nor is it the place to justify their delusions by constanatly denigrating our beloved state. I would be happy to start for all such people a FLEE-Goanet(free of charge!) so Goans on this forum don't have to repeatedly put up with half baked random observations which are an insult to all educated Goan members of this forum trying in their small way to improve their lot. How on earth is Dubai any example of a non-discriminatory society? Of what use to anyone on this forum is the observation that Ambulances are readily available in Canada and not in Goa? Do you think Goans on this forum are not aware of things that are wrong with Goa? Why do some expat-Goans think it is their moral duty to constantly lecture Goans on the so called benefits they enjoy living in the West and how Goans are "suffering"? Regards Sunith There are few times when I will get absolutely furious and I'm afraid this is going to be one of them. I am getting really sick and tired of constantly being dragged into posts that I have nothing to do with and constantly being misquoted. The second part of your sentence, that I was glad I wasn't raised in Goa was said in the context of caste prejudice. So don't misquote me. Yes, I was glad I was raised in Dubai, where my father gave me the type of life I could never imagine having in Goa, given that my father was born on the wrong sides of the track both in terms of caste and money. Good for you I say, but don't for one moment judge the choices other Goans born into desperate poverty made and make to this day. but there are far more people and circumstances that are proving to be the tidalwave of its misfortune. Perhaps it is time for you to accept the reality of the situation rather than being a sleeping Peter waiting for the cock to crow thrice. Selma Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] The Mess That is Goa - Personal Ramblings
--- Aristo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aristo responds: > Yes, the peace of not doing anything to change the > ill's that plague Goa, > besides writing articles belittling the Goans in Goa > and regarding all of > them as following a herd mentality. > --- Ah, the net is such a tool that in one fell swoop and one email, we can pronounce judgment on the entire life and works of another Goan. We can judge that in the entire lifetime of this person all that he has done is write articles and belittle the Goans in Goa. Well, I've known Roland Francis for longer than one email on a Cyber forum. At my last count I think I've know him for seven years and I don't doubt the sincerity of Roland's love for Goa. Nor do I doubt the many times he's reached in his pockets to help fellow Goans be they in Goa or first-time immigrants to Canada. If one fine day, he writes some harsh truths, it is the overflowing of frustration in seeing something you love deteriorate. I wish instead of the expected self-righteous responses that we saw, at least one Goan in Goa had stood up and said, yes, I too am fed-up. I too am fed up that after 50 years of independence we don't have an infrastructure that could sustain some sort of industry, that we don't have an education system that earns merit beyond Karwar, that we don't have politicians who can garner respect or serve one term without being embroiled in some dirty scam. I'm fed-up that our youth don't have employment opportunities, that when they leave the house we're not sure they'll return because the roads have claimed so many of their lives. Most of all I'm fed-up that I don't have hope in my heart for the generations of Goans that will come after me. Instead, all I have to pass onto them is a legacy of hopelessness. Yes, strike out at all the Goans who do not live in Goa. Stomp the moral higher ground if it makes you feel better. But at the end of the day, it's your living in denial and apathy that will be Goa's Apocalypse. Selma Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Distance between them is just 7 metres
Distance between them is just 7 metres http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/304675629/ Another http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauksix/304675468/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Re.BMI
<> You're right, Joe. The method I described is a rule of the thumb for middle-aged men. Apart from age, gender, physical frame (small, medium, large) and even race are taken into account to arrive at a more scientific conclusion. For example, Africans and Caucasians are known to have better bone density than Asians. But you're on the right track if you maintain your current weight. Don't worry, be happy! Best, RKN Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Holland considers saree ban/response to Vidyadha
Dear Vidyadhar, Although I am not well acquainted with the politics of Holland, I'd like to share a few of my perspectives on this subject. I read somewhere that a recent poll shows almost 50% of the Dutch population has a negative imagine of Muslims. This intolerance has gained momentum after the brutal killing of Dutch film director Theo Van Gogh. Indeed, I am possibly not amiss in saying this anti-Muslim sentiment is rising in Europe, in a way that it is not in America. Perhaps America is too large a country to simmer such targeted hatred, perhaps in an ironic way America is more tolerant a country despite its shambles of a foreign policy in the Middle East. Anyway, I digress. The point I was going to make is that the west, although it places a huge emphasis on individualism at one end, (the right of the individual is supreme and not subordinate to anyone), at an other level its democratic institutions are symbiotically dependent on homogenization of thought and act. The sort of pluralistic society that coexists (albeit tenuously) in India or in Asian cultures is simply not encouraged in the West. It is in this context that I understand their desire to divest itself of what they perceive to be cultures alien to theirs. Selma -- --- Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Holland case is nothing but the fear of the > 'other' carried to silly > extremes, you start with the burqa and then move to > the saree and who > knows what next? And it is deplorable that a > cardinal, of all people, > had to join this clamour. What difference is there > between the > cardinal's statement and what the Bajrang Dal in > India says, that women > should not wear 'foreign' apparel like trousers and > skirts? All in the > name of 'respecting, traditions, culture' etc. > Beware the culture > police, whatever guise they appear under. > > > -- > Question everything -- Karl Marx > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Bleeding labour dry
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 23:01 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: Sunith D Velho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Bleeding labour dry/reply to (Vidyadhar Gadgil) > To: goanet@lists.goanet.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: > text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" > > Dear Vidhyadhar, > > To further nationalise essential services in a country where there is > no political or bureaucratic accountabilty will spell disaster for > India. This is not the first time we have disagreed on related issues. I think both of us are pretty familiar with the various arguments pro-and-con this issue, and I don't think repeating them on this forum is going to convince either one of us. I respect your views, just as you respect mine, I'm sure ... so let's leave it at that, eh? I am anti-privatization and you are pro-privatization, and the world has plenty of space for both our views :-) > > Fast forward a few years(since privatisation) and one can now get a > Phone, Mobile and Broadband connection from the same BSNL in a day or > two. > > I would genuinely like to know your explantion for this. Here I will concede that the shock that BSNL and other monopolistic public-sector service providers got was salutary and much needed, and helped them to shape up and become more professional. The permit-licence raj and monopolistic complacency on the part of some public sector concerns was a serious problem. > > The state of electricity, roads, and water in India remains very > backward and I'm not sure why you are thankful for that. The primary > reason for KTC's pathetic state is political interference in > appointments and day-to-day activities. The primary reason for the > below par service from private operators in Goa is a completely > inefficient and corrupt bureaucracy(RTO and Traffic Police). The > pathetic state of the PWD and Electricity Department begs > privatisation > in these sectors. You may get better services, but at a very high cost, making them inaccessible to the majority. That is why public services need to be govt. controlled, so that they can be supplied at prices within the reach of all. > But I thought I said at the beginning that we'll give the debate a miss. Looks like old habits die hard... Regards, Vidyadhar -- Question everything -- Karl Marx Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Bleeding labour dry
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 21:18 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: "Cornel DaCosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet] Bleeding labour dry > Hi Vidyadhar > In response to your post, I'd say that, having read Marx very > considerably---both the old > Marx and the New Marx in the extensive literature, I am afraid I have > never > come across your quote "Question Everything" and attributed to the > great > thinker himself! This matter was debated on Goanet itself some time ago, see http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@goanet.org/msg24169.html and related messages. So I won't get into it again, except to say that Karl Marx apparently said that 'De omnibus dubitandum' was his motto, as his works show so well. In fact, his questioning cast fresh light on social reality. Besides, if he didn't say it, he should have :-) > Also, you may be interested to know that in the UK, some 18 months > ago, > there was an > extensive poll to ascertain who was the greatest international > philosopher > of all time. > Much to my surprise, it turned out to be Karl Marx and much was > written, > following the poll, explaining this outcome. Great! -- Question everything -- Karl Marx Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] The Mess That is Goa - Personal Ramblings
Cecil, your hollow rebuttal points to my post are just codswallop (thanks for making the word popular on Goanet, Cornel). You have more laws and rules than Canada has. The major difference is you don't implement them! How about this one, from your own article in the Gomantak Times of October 26, 2006 re posted on Goanet: quote Astride my trusted Activa scooter, with Desmond seated behind and Fabian in front, we would do the standard route from Tonca through Panjim to Mala and back, and in the process see every Narkasur in town. unquote. Now tell me Cecil if Indian laws allow 3 passengers on a two-seater (safety wise, here in the west scooters are deemed one-seaters, but never mind that) and also tell me of how much importance your sons' lives are to you, no matter how many other people do it. Or is it just that you, like everybody else just ignore the laws and expect that a) no accidents will happen to you and b) Goa will somehow become a better place despite you breaking the laws. And I wouldn't be surprised from the tone of your reply (seen below) to a serious matter like drinking and driving that you deem that issue inconsequential too (because you didn't drink enough or whatever the rule is in Canada). And by the way I mentioned my cellphone as a means of relaying information to kin, for the medics rescuing me, (or didn't you know it could be used for that?) while you thought of it as an instrument to be used while they take you away. Wouldn't mention this, except that it goes to your line of thinking. Roland. On 11/27/06, Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roland Francis wrote: Think of it next time you're speaking on your cellphoine while being taken by ambulance away from an accident site because you didn't drink enough, or whatever the rule is in Canada. I hear they have lots of rules for everything. Which may not be a bad thing for people who need rules and can't decide for themselves. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20061129/9e05ae2d/attachment.html Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Goan Delicacies (some more added)
--- JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Talking Photos: Goan Delicacies (some more added) > > http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=213413960&size=l > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/307445126/ > Mario responds: > Here I am, eating a hamburger and French fries, with the prospect of going outdoors in 5 degree weather, and Joe keeps sending these pictures of Goan beaches and Goan delicacies! > Joe, how can you be so cruel and heartless???:-))) > Makes me wish I were back in sunny Goa - won't be long - that beautiful land where my ancestors roamed. > Descended from fierce Maratha mountain warriors according to the research of Carmo, a famous systems engineer in Florida [Did you know he went to IIT?], they apparently laid down their arms and tilled the fields in a place grandiosely named "Saviour of the World". > Aahhh! Goa, where east meets west, where the people are hot and the food even hotter - the most exquisite cuisine in the world - and the local booze is to die for as we say in far too distant expatriate-sthan. > Oohhh!, Goa, the well kept open secret that has now been discovered by rapacious hordes from around the world, and which exists in joyful and sussegad and sometimes charming, sometimes frustrating chaos that gives Goan refugees like Roland - who muses about how lousy Goa has become since he left and does so from freezing and highly organized Canada - and Selma - who pines for what Goa ought to be from equally cold and highly organized Minnesota - nightmares:-))) > I can't wait to get back to what some consider an evolving Goa and others consider a devolving Goa. > Sounds like a place where sausage is being made as the inimitable Winston Churchill was once heard to opine about a democracy in action:-)) > Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Bleeding labour dry
--- Mario Goveia wrote: > > > Just to clarify the height of your "balderdash", > > what Cornel described as "codswallop" was my > > opinion that it is no one else's business what a > > worker who needs a job accepts from an employer > > in terms of wages and benefits. > > > > > Perhaps you, Cornel or Selma can explain your > > objections to this opinion in a more intelligent > > way than simply calling it nonsense? > --- Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course it is the business of many other parties: > > 1. The state -- > > 2. Workers' representatives -- > > 3. International bodies -- > > I am sure that others can add to this, but I think > the point is made. It is sad that while you seem to > accept the right of employers to cartelise and > jointly fix wages, you do not give the same > right to workers and their representatives. > Mario responds: > Vidhyadhar, The point you have made is from a cynical and obsolete Marxist approach to labor relations which is causing such economic stagnation in most of Europe, relative to the dynamic US economy that is the envy of most of the industrialised world, now recently being emulated by some eastern European countries. > http://www.timbro.com/euvsusa/ > Besides, you are using premises I do not recognize. Such as "...while you seem to accept the right of employers to cartelise and jointly fix wages,..." > I have no idea where this is taking place. It would be illegal to do so in the US, which is my frame of reference. Wages in the US vary widely from skill to skill, from region to region and industry to industry, and with an unemployment rate of 4.4% companies are competing for qualified workers rather than colluding among themselves and exploiting their workers as you seem to insinuate. > I see nothing wrong with localized collective bargaining between an employer and their own work-force, but I see plenty wrong with the political behemoths that the major labor unions have become, with politically motivated CEO's whose salaries equal those of major corporate CEO's, disasscociated from the interests of most working people and with none of the achievements that corporate CEO's are expected to produce in return. Which is why the labor unions in the US have been losing members each and every year for over two decades from workers deciding to make their own decisions on whom to work for and for how much. > Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Konkani Musical Show "Natalamcho Kunsvar" in Bahrain - 30/11/2006
Konkani Musical Show 'Natalamcho Kunsvar' Manama, Nov. 29: Francis de Tuem, a budding artiste of the Konkani stage based in Kuwait, will arrive this evening into Bahrain along with Jose Rod to perform in the Konkani Musical Show 'Natalamcho Kunsvar'. The well-known Goan, Domnic Fernandes (de Anjuna), based in Dhahran, KSA will also be arriving later in the night. It will be after a long gap that Domnic Fernandes will be acting in a guest appearance! The show under the patronage of Young Goans Club will be held at the Baan Saeng Thai Restaurant Auditorium on tomorrow, November 30, starting at 8.00 p.m. It will feature 25 new songs (solos, duets and quartets) by Indian artistes Ophelia, Babli, William de Curtorim, Jose Rod and Benny. Ophelia, a veteran with over 50 years' experience, is popularly known as the tragedy queen for her heart-rending performances. She has also performed for several film productions and was married to the late Bab Peter, who passed away in Bahrain last year. Babli, the couple's only daughter, is also a well-known singer. William de Curtorim is known for songs based on politics, focusing on the corrupt politicians of Goa. Jose Rod has performed in several stage plays and has released CDs in India. Benny is a Bahrain-based singer and composer. His performances have been compared to shows by the late 'Melody King' Alfred Rose. Besides the local based Konkani artistes, the Organizers has flown in from India: Ophelia, Babli and William de Curtorim. Tickets for the show priced at BD:5/-, 4/-, and 3/- are available at: Mangalore Stores and La Ferns Cafe. GR Crasto/Bahrain [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [Additional input by goa-world.com team (Kuwait)]. http://www.live365. com/stations/ 61664 - brought to you by Ulysses Menezes & Gaspar Almeida of www.goa-world. com http://www.goa- world.com/ goa/music/ live.htm http://www.goa- world.com/ tiatr&tiatrist/ http://www.goa- world.com - Promoting Tiatr & Tiatrists (since 1994)! - Forwarded by www.goa-world. com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] The Mess That is Goa - Personal Ramblings
Interesting point! So what's the pecking order in the world of Goan Catholic racism? FN On 27/11/06, Aristo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aristo responds: > I am glad that you at least chose the lesser of two evils: The Goan Hindu > instead of the Bhaile. -- FN 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 (phone calls after 1 pm please) FLOSS, geeks, blogs: [http://planet.foss.in/] Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Check this out: Another song clip ' O Dolly'
check this another 'test' song http://youtube.com/watch?v=kGVObdBk1Ew Tips: watch it in it's original form. for this, please click on the second last button at the bottom of your YouTube video player. It will reduce to a very small screen (the original). [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Fyi: Article on Dabolim Airport
Pls check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabolim_Airport You are requested to update and expand it based on inputs available to you and your associates. Thanks. Phil Thomas Goa _ Connect with your friends who use Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Click! http://www.msnspecials.in/wlmyahoo/index.asp Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Married Catholic priests in the UK
Re:[Goanet] Married Catholic priests in the UK Well, like we used to have various split Congress parties like Congress(I), Congress(U), Congress(S) etc, soon we may have split Catholics sects or religious bodies such as Catholic(C), Catholic(M), Catholic(G) etc etc I read somewhere long time ago that some groups of Catholic priest already made representations to the pope to allow them or catholic priests to marry. They even cited example saying the first Catholic Pope St.Peter was married. And if this (splits) do take place in my time, I would, for sure, only go to Catholic(C)=Celibacy and not Catholic(M)= Married. Simply because may be I am stubborn and will not be able to accept these new changes till I am alive. OK, coming back to the topic 'Married catholic priest... If there was an opinion poll (by secret ballot) only amongst the priests in Goa whether the priest should be allowed to marry or not, the result, with my experience, I can predict as follows: Yes = 70% No = 30% Abv NO (30%) would include: 40% from age group 55 and above 40% unsure* (or confused due to various reasons like society etc) 20% Genuine *Finally, you may wonder as to what Catholic(G) may stand for [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Domnic, in a tiatro...
Domnic Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> of Dom's antique bookshelf fame, heads from the KSA to Bahrain on Wenesday (Nov 29, 2006) via the causeway, to act in a tiatro. Here's wishing one of Goanet's very faithful contributors all the very best and and interesting time there. Domnic does a lot to promote the culture of Goa that our generation has known... without losing his cool, or saying a rude word to anyone. Quite an achievement! FN -- FN 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 (phone calls after 1 pm please) FLOSS, geeks, blogs: [http://planet.foss.in/] Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Table in Ribandar (Was: The Mess......)
Hahaha Santosh. I've seen your photo and I don't think so :)) Selma --- --- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I wonder when I said I was glad not to be born in > Goa, >especially since I was born in Ribander, Goa, > India. My >mother delivered me on a table, which > years > later my >husband studied on, since the hospital is > now an >academic institution. > > > > I may have delivered a few babies on that table. > Selma, are you young enough to have been one of > them? > > Cheers, > > Santosh Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Galaxy of Great Goans, contd.
Hi Gilbert, Thanks for your note . That sure should be added to the list of Great Goans under the name " Dr. (Dotor) Gilberto Laurencio" of ___vaddo, Goa ! We should ensure that none of the credits for our Great Goan accomplishments slips to the Anglo-Indians (those underachievers are just waiting the claim the credit !) just because we are anglicising our names ! dont you agree ? East Indians, Anglo Indians, Bring them on,, We overachiever Goans will surely whup them ! Best Regards, Dr Carmo D'Cruz Indian Harbour Beach, Florida. >From: Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: CARMO DCRUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Galaxy of Great Goans, contd. >Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:09:51 -0800 > >Hi Carmo, > >Your's was a great addition. In keeping with your last paragraph (below), >here is something you may be interested. I sent it to Marcos > >Hi Marcos, > >Your post on the above subject was a great write up. Thanks for putting >this information together. I fully agree with you that Goans, >like everybody else across the world, could benefit immensely from some >role models. > >A write-up on Gilbert Lawrence appeared in the Goan Voice of Canada, a few >years ago. I am a graduate of Loyal High School, Margao in 1960. After >graduating from Medical school in Bombay, I went on to England and was the >first Indian (actually the first non-British) to receive the Rohan Williams >Medal. This award was for standing first at the FRCR (Fellow of the Royal >College of Radiologists) examination in 1976, in London. This degree is the >Radiological equivalent of FRCS given to surgeons. I am currently the >chairman of the department, at the Regional Cancer Center in Utica, Upstate >New York, USA. > >The Goan Voice of Canada website and a similar one in England should give >you many leads of other success stories. >Good Luck. >Kind Regards, Gilbert Lawrence > > CARMO DCRUZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >So, Goans have distinguished themselves in all walks of life - We need more >to add to this list so that Goans are recognized as among the finest >citizens of India and not just a bunch of "Cooks and Butlers" as we were >ridiculed by Pandit Nehru (quoting Nirad Chaudhari) on the day after Goa's >Liberation - We Have Come A Long Way Mr. Chaudhari and Mr. Nehru !! and >Sonia, Priyanka and Rahul for that matter ! > >Best Regards, > >Dr. Carmo D'Cruz >Indian Harbour Beach, Florida > > >Message: 10 >Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:47:40 -0500 >From: "Jean & Marcos Catao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [Goanet] GREAT MEN OF GOA >To: >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >GREAT MEN OF GOA > >MARCOS GOMES-CATAO > > >The genesis of this article lies in an observation in a not too distant >post >in GOANET to the effect that DIASPORA GOANS now comprise 30% of all GOANS, >many of them second and third generation ones, some of whom barely know >GOA, >others who have never visited their ancestral home, and a few - fortunately >very few - even a bit abashed at their origin, ignorant of their rich >heritage. I wondered, therefore, if it would be worthwhile penning some >lines delineating our traditions, our cultural monuments and specially, the >immense contributions of eminent Goans down the corridors of Time. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] St Thomas Was Speared To Death
Afra, See my earlier note to Chris Vaz on Goanet below. St Peter was the only aposle to be crucified upside down and that too by choice. He preferred it that way because he wanted to suffer more than Christ, But the truth is that he probably didnt - because death is faster (and relatively less painful in the case of upside down crucifixtion due to massive brain hemmorraging, than in the case of Crucifixtion Jesus' style. St Thomas The Apostle (the Patron Saint of Builders aka Doubting Thomas because of his oft-quoted "Trust but Verify" saying - he did stick his fingers in to confirm the wounds of the Risen Lord), on the other hand, was speared to death on St. Thomas Mount near Mylapore India. Do you have any more info from your home work on St. Thomas' death ? Was he on the cross when he was speared to death or was he just running away ? Do let us know ! Yes, Crucifiction was a particularly Roman form of Torture in Biblical times, but if the current swell of support for it in prominently Christian Goa continues (except for some Europe-influenced Goanetter - who do not have any more effective solutions), it will be more famously known as a distinctly Goan form of Capital Punishment (It is a strong deterrent and becomes economically viable along with organ harvesting - so that more Goans live when criminaks are crucified) and it will largely responsible for a relatively crime -free Goa of the future, resultant swell in the tourism and high tech business and will help us achieve our ideal of Goa Dourada (Golden Goa) ! If you were a criminal in Goa would you want to commit violent crime in Goa when the capital punishment is upside down crucifiction and organ harvesting ? Think about it - that's exactly what the Bhailes will feel and keep away from our Goa Dourada ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz Indian Harbour Beach, Florida Message: 3 Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:22:53 -0500 From: "afra dias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Crucified upside down To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi, Any one who says St Thomas was crucified upside down has not done their homework. They are writing rubbish to get some publicity. Crucifiction was particulary a Roman form of killing by torture, not Indian. Indians of those days would not know what crucifiction was in the first place. Afra. Chris, St Peter was the only apostle whho chose to be crucified upside down as he wanted to suffer more than Jesus. Apparently St Thomas the aostle aka "Doubting Thomas" (who is also the patron saint of builders) was speared o death in South India. Scientifically dath by upside=down hanging is more immediate that being hung head-up Jesus style becaue of masive hemmoragng to the brain. You cansee pictures of St, Peter's cruxifiction and get an idea of what its like. Carmo >From: Chris Vaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" , >goanet@goanet.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [Goanet] St Thomas Crucified Upside Down on St. Thomas Mount ? >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:02:12 -0500 > >Could someone please provide pictures of upside down crucifictions -- I >would specially like those frothing 'n foaming from the mouth... > > >- Original Message - >> >Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 5:00 AM >Subject: [Goanet] St Thomas Crucified Up >> >> >>___ >>Goanet mailing list >>Goanet@lists.goanet.org >>http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org > Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Galaxy of Great Goans, contd. contd.
Hi Every one, Mea Culpa ! I stand corrected. Dr. Reita Faria Powell a Goan, now resident in Dublin, Ireland was crowned Miss World in 1966 = thus proving that our Goan Manas have beauty and brains too ! Best Regasrds, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz Indian Harbour Beach, Florida Jean and Marcos Catao, That was a comprehensive list on Great Goan Men - perhaps you should include our Great Goan Manas too. We have so many of them including Reita Faria - the first Miss Universe of Goan Origin, Shashikala Kakodkar one of the first women to become CM, sportswomen, Doctors, Scientists, etc. etc. Let us not forget the greatest of the Goans who are so famously in Heaven and on the verge of being cannonized on Earth - Blessed Fr. Agnel D'Souza of Anjuna and Blessed Fr. Joseph Vaz of Sancoale. Conspicously absent from your list was Cardinal Valerian Gracias of Navelim/Chinchinim who arose from one of the lower castes to become India's first Cardinal and Ivan Dias of Velsao who nearly won the last papal horse race vs Pope Benedict. In law enforcement, we have had outstanding Goans like former Police Comissioner Julio Riberio. If I am not mistaken, the cop who nabbed the notorius and elusive criminal "Billa" in Bombay in the 70s was also a Goan. Although Soccer is the predominant game in Goa, its in hockey that we have a number of Goans who have donned the India colors or those of the UK, East African countries, US, Canada and even Pakistan - there are too many of them to recount. But one name stands out - It is Leo Pinto of Camarcazana, Mapusa and Bandra, Bombay - He is Genesis of the Great Goan Goalkeeping tradition - thus parlaying the Goan affinity and excellance in Soccer to a game India dominated with 8 Olympic Gold Medals and one World Cup in the last century. We have also had outstanding Goan women like Lorraine Fernandes and Selma D'Silva - two Goan women among many who represented the country in the game. Of Course, Leander Paes of Velim, Goa is the greatest Goan tennis player alive and with his father Vece Paes, they are the few father-son Olympic medallists in India. Dhyan Chand and Ashok Kumar also belong to that exclusive club. Dilip Sardesai was one of the few Goans who represented India with distinction in Cricket. Hindi Cinema would never sound the same without the contributions of Goan Musicians and Goan Tiatrs have their own lists of luminary actors and actresses. I second Tony Correia Afonso's nomination of Shenoy Goenbab and DD Kosambi to this list of Great Goans. Their contributions to Konkani Literature and Goan History are legendary. I extensively referred to DD Kosambi's works when I wrote my thesis on "Re-Discovering Goa" in 1989. In recent times lets not forget that one of the recent Prime Ministers of Portugal (in 1976, before Mario Soares) was an engineer-turned-politician of Goan origin - Alfredo Nobre D'Costa. He was from a prominent family in the Margao area. Goans have distinguished themselves in the Sciences and Medicine too. The Chairman of India's India's Atomic Energy Commission is a Goan Anil Kakodkar. So, Goans have distinguished themselves in all walks of life - We need more to add to this list so that Goans are recognized as among the finest citizens of India and not just a bunch of "Cooks and Butlers" as we were ridiculed by Pandit Nehru (quoting Nirad Chaudhari) on the day after Goa's Liberation - We Have Come A Long Way Mr. Chaudhari and Mr. Nehru !! and Sonia, Priyanka and Rahul for that matter ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz Indian Harbour Beach, Florida Message: 10 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:47:40 -0500 From: "Jean & Marcos Catao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] GREAT MEN OF GOA To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original GREAT MEN OF GOA MARCOS GOMES-CATAO The genesis of this article lies in an observation in a not too distant post in GOANET to the effect that DIASPORA GOANS now comprise 30% of all GOANS, many of them second and third generation ones, some of whom barely know GOA, others who have never visited their ancestral home, and a few - fortunately very few - even a bit abashed at their origin, ignorant of their rich heritage. I wondered, therefore, if it would be worthwhile penning some lines delineating our traditions, our cultural monuments and specially, the immense contributions of eminent Goans down the corridors of Time. I hesitatedIt is not a very interesting subject to most readers. So why encumber them? Then I saw OSCAR LOBO's reference to GOANS ABC denomination in the GULF, and recollected the very derogatory remarks on GOANS by noted Indian author, Nirad Choudhuri. My hesitation wavered... but still persisted. Then, just very recently, I read JOHN FERNANDES" post in GOANET on how nice it would be to know something about our Great Men, since he himself was aware only of ABBE FARIA. So, my hesitation vani
[Goanet] Galaxy of Great Goans, contd.
Jean and Marcos Catao, That was a comprehensive list on Great Goan Men - perhaps you should include our Great Goan Manas too. We have so many of them including Reita Faria - the first Miss Universe of Goan Origin, Shashikala Kakodkar one of the first women to become CM, sportswomen, Doctors, Scientists, etc. etc. Let us not forget the greatest of the Goans who are so famously in Heaven and on the verge of being cannonized on Earth - Blessed Fr. Agnel D'Souza of Anjuna and Blessed Fr. Joseph Vaz of Sancoale. Conspicously absent from your list was Cardinal Valerian Gracias of Navelim/Chinchinim who arose from one of the lower castes to become India's first Cardinal and Ivan Dias of Velsao who nearly won the last papal horse race vs Pope Benedict. In law enforcement, we have had outstanding Goans like former Police Comissioner Julio Riberio. If I am not mistaken, the cop who nabbed the notorius and elusive criminal "Billa" in Bombay in the 70s was also a Goan. Although Soccer is the predominant game in Goa, its in hockey that we have a number of Goans who have donned the India colors or those of the UK, East African countries, US, Canada and even Pakistan - there are too many of them to recount. But one name stands out - It is Leo Pinto of Camarcazana, Mapusa and Bandra, Bombay - He is Genesis of the Great Goan Goalkeeping tradition - thus parlaying the Goan affinity and excellance in Soccer to a game India dominated with 8 Olympic Gold Medals and one World Cup in the last century. We have also had outstanding Goan women like Lorraine Fernandes and Selma D'Silva - two Goan women among many who represented the country in the game. Of Course, Leander Paes of Velim, Goa is the greatest Goan tennis player alive and with his father Vece Paes, they are the few father-son Olympic medallists in India. Dhyan Chand and Ashok Kumar also belong to that exclusive club. Dilip Sardesai was one of the few Goans who represented India with distinction in Cricket. Hindi Cinema would never sound the same without the contributions of Goan Musicians and Goan Tiatrs have their own lists of luminary actors and actresses. I second Tony Correia Afonso's nomination of Shenoy Goenbab and DD Kosambi to this list of Great Goans. Their contributions to Konkani Literature and Goan History are legendary. I extensively referred to DD Kosambi's works when I wrote my thesis on "Re-Discovering Goa" in 1989. In recent times lets not forget that one of the recent Prime Ministers of Portugal (in 1976, before Mario Soares) was an engineer-turned-politician of Goan origin - Alfredo Nobre D'Costa. He was from a prominent family in the Margao area. Goans have distinguished themselves in the Sciences and Medicine too. The Chairman of India's India's Atomic Energy Commission is a Goan Anil Kakodkar. So, Goans have distinguished themselves in all walks of life - We need more to add to this list so that Goans are recognized as among the finest citizens of India and not just a bunch of "Cooks and Butlers" as we were ridiculed by Pandit Nehru (quoting Nirad Chaudhari) on the day after Goa's Liberation - We Have Come A Long Way Mr. Chaudhari and Mr. Nehru !! and Sonia, Priyanka and Rahul for that matter ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz Indian Harbour Beach, Florida Message: 10 Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:47:40 -0500 From: "Jean & Marcos Catao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] GREAT MEN OF GOA To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original GREAT MEN OF GOA MARCOS GOMES-CATAO The genesis of this article lies in an observation in a not too distant post in GOANET to the effect that DIASPORA GOANS now comprise 30% of all GOANS, many of them second and third generation ones, some of whom barely know GOA, others who have never visited their ancestral home, and a few - fortunately very few - even a bit abashed at their origin, ignorant of their rich heritage. I wondered, therefore, if it would be worthwhile penning some lines delineating our traditions, our cultural monuments and specially, the immense contributions of eminent Goans down the corridors of Time. I hesitatedIt is not a very interesting subject to most readers. So why encumber them? Then I saw OSCAR LOBO's reference to GOANS ABC denomination in the GULF, and recollected the very derogatory remarks on GOANS by noted Indian author, Nirad Choudhuri. My hesitation wavered... but still persisted. Then, just very recently, I read JOHN FERNANDES" post in GOANET on how nice it would be to know something about our Great Men, since he himself was aware only of ABBE FARIA. So, my hesitation vanished and I decided to take the plunge, even though not too many might be interested in it.(after all they can easily push the button to the next post).Even if the lines help some very few learn about our past, it is worth taking the trouble. The galaxy of GREAT GOANS is so
[Goanet] Raffle tickets for Goa Sudharop now on sale!
A big thank you to Mervyn Lobo for organizing this fundraising raffle for Goa Sudharop and a big thank you to the prize donors for their generous gifts. So far 105 tickets have sold. Use can now pay for tickets through PAYPAL on the Goa Sudharop website at www.goasudharop.org (you don't need a Paypal account, just a credit card). Whether you pay through Paypal or mail a cheque for tickets, please email Melanie Moniz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to let her know so she can track payments with tickets. You will be assigned ticket #'s for the drawing to be held on Dec 15 (no hard-copy tickets). See complete details below. Please forward this message to your family/friends. Thank you for your support. Goa Sudharop * Folks, This is for those of you who: 1) Love Goa 2) Have something to be thankful for this year. 3) Would like to help make a difference. The folks at Goa Sudharop sacrifice their time throughout the year trying to help the less fortunate. Here is your chance to join with them and raise funds Goan causes. Buy a ticket (or two) of the raffle. Your contribution will go a long way and who knows? You might just win a $100.00 prize! Since all the prizes have been donated, ALL the money collected on ticket sales will be used directly on a Goa Sudharop project. Raffle tickets are US$10.00 each. The prizes are as follows: 1) A Swiss Tissot 18k Gold "Carmel" Gents wrist watch, worth US$300.00 2) US$100.00 3) US$100.00 4) US$100.00 5) US$100.00 6) US$100.00 7) US$50.00 8) US$50.00 9) One Super Duper Christmas Package from EXPRESSIONS 10) A copy of the novel, "The Sixth Night" by Silviano C. Barbosa. 11) A copy of the novel, "Penance" by Ben Antao. The prizes will be mailed (without any fees) to anywhere in the world. The only exception is the Christmas package which is deliverable only in Goa. For tickets, please email Melanie Moniz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let her know how many you are buying and also send your cheque/money order made payable to: "GOA SUDHAROP", and mail to: Melanie M. Moniz, 557 Banyan Circle Walnut Creek, CA, 94598, USA Or you can visit the Goa Sudharop website at www.goasudharop.org and click on the Paypal option. Indicate you are buying tickets for the Raffle (tickets $10 each). Even if you are using the Paypal option, email Melanie Moniz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let her know how many you are buying so she can keep track of your tickets and payments. The raffle draw will take place in Toronto on Friday, 15th December, 2006. At least four goanetters will be present and the entire draw will be recorded (and available on DVD). The prize winners will be announced here on December 16th. The prizes will be sent to the winners as soon as instructions are received on how they want their prize delivered. We need to receive payment for the tickets before Wednesday, 13th December. Please remember to act as soon as you can. We will be sending updates on a regular basis between now and December 13th. Here are links to details of the prizes. Prize #1 GENTS GOLD WATCH http://www.tissot.ch/index.php?mod_collection/colid_0008/famid_5019 Prize #9 SUPER DUPER CHRISTMAS PACKAGE from EXPRESSIONS http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ For info on the work Goa Sudharop does, please visit: www.goasudharop.org Mervyn Lobo Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Portuguese Medley
Can someone help my friend Vijay, please? FN On 29/11/06, Vijay D'Cruz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Fred, > > I would like to have the lyrics of the popular Portuguese Medley usually > sung in Goa. I would appreciate if you could guide me on how to obtain the > lyrics. > > Regards > Lieutenant Vijay D'Cruz -- FN 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 (phone calls after 1 pm please) FLOSS, geeks, blogs: [http://planet.foss.in/] Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Absence of women on Goanet
Hi Selma I reckon we definitely have more than one female Goanetter at present. My question however, is how do we increase the numbers? Regards Cornel - Original Message - From: "Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Holland considers saree ban > Dear Sachin, > I don't think there are any women on Goanet and as the last surviving > member of that now nearly extinct species, let me give you my opinion... Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
Re: [Goanet] Married Catholic priests in the UK
Hi Cecil Thanks for the article on married RC priests in the UK. I had met one officiating at a wedding six months ago. Last week, at a supermarket, I met a cheerful Goan friend who lives fairly close to my home. We exchanged lots of pleasantries and especially about the weather which is uncannily warm and sunny so late in November. However, he was glum about just one thing. He told me that the parish priest of the church was now a married priest. My friend said he stopped attending church as he could not accept this new fact. Is there a way to help this guy out of his dilemma now that the priests have sorted out theirs? Regards Cornel DaCosta, London, UK. - Original Message - From: "Cecil Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:07 PM Subject: [Goanet] Married Catholic priests in the UK http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/0,,1951371,00.html > More sex please, we're vicars ... > British Catholics have sidestepped the Pope's rules on celibate > priests, says Peter Stanford Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
