[Goanet] Subject: Sardinha justifies turning Goa into a brothel
Extremely well put Mr. JP. Some on goanet do not waste an iota of time to twist the issue. Instead of addressing the problem, they swoop down with their distorted views; the easiest being the "saffron" connection. They do not seem to realize that corruption/communalism, the country is equally affected by both. The lesser of 2 evils argument does not apply. This is the same man who gave contradictory views on SEZs, intends to legalize dhirio, and now justifying the casinos in Goa. As for Curtorim, or any other constituency, the people will always get the candidate they deserve. Regards, Joseph de Melo Message: 6 Date: 3 Jun 2008 18:59:38 - From: "JP " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Sardinha justifies turning Goa into a brothel To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 cedrico dacosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote today as Sardinha has ressuructed his political career smartly as since he belongs to the minority community and since the saffronites cannot get a base in his Curtorim constituency he becomes a villian... I presume you are referring to the same Sardinha who lost the assembly elections to a rookie in a dominantly minority assembly and then got a chance to enter politics again because Churchill resigned. In fact there were rumours of the pulpit being partially responsible for his downfall in the assembly elections. Why try and justify an idiotic statment by him and be so communal by dragging the 'saffronites' in it? Most of the doings of this congress government are so very obviously disgusting, corrupt and malafide that you dont have to look at it through communal or any other glasses and give it a 'saffron' tinge everytime someone criticizes them. regards, John Pereira
Re: [Goanet] European Citizenship
Paulo Colaco Dias wrote: > Like Jose, I also found interesting their interpretation of Portuguese law > regarding the date 25th April 1976. > They say that all those born in the ex-Portuguese State of India before 25th > April 1976 are Portuguese citizens by right. Folks, I got some interesting replies to my 'ghost' post. Here is one of the better ones. It reminds us of a different time and place. After reading it, I not only wonder if I am Portuguese but also if I am European as well. Here, you be the judge. I have permission from the author to forward this. Mervyn3.0 -- The incident took place in February 1966, one month after got married. Of the 4 girls, there was not a single Goan. You may be referring to Ida DeSilva who was Manglorean, not Goan. Along Ocean Road there was also the Ismaili cemetery which was relocated as well. The cemeteries were next to the Gymkhana grounds where our hockey games were played. The "pine" trees along Ocean Road were Casaurina trees which are not true pine trees but a tropical version of the pine trees we see in North America. Years before, in late 1951, three young Goan men also met their end in a car crash on rain slickened roads against one of these Casaurina trees. The bodies were laid to rest in the GI before the funeral. The Government hospital which you referred to, as where you were born is probably the Ocean Road Hospital. At one time (this German era hospital with the distictive lightning conductor spikes on the crest of its dome) before the Muhimbili Hospital (Princess Anne Hospital) was built, was the General Hospital for Dar es Salaam, and was known as the European Hospital in the colonial era. I too was born in this hospital in 1939. Although it was the "European" hospital, there was a special ward for Goans, being Portuguese citizens. Goans received special treatment in those days and did not have to go to the hospital where other Asians were admitted - the Sewa Haji Hospital close to the old Dar Railway Station in Gerezani. __ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/
Re: [Goanet] Government of India has an online Grievance forum
This is a dead link... Orlando - Original Message - From: "JESSICA DS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:05 PM Subject: [Goanet] Government of India has an online Grievance forum Dear Friends, Government of India has an online Grievance forum at http://darpg-grievance.nic.in/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.09960e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/
[Goanet] Daily Haiku #124
DAILY HAIKU #124: __ PRAY DAY __ by FR see angelina pray for shiloh's dad, "give us this day our daily brad!" _ http://2008goanconvention.com _ _
Re: [Goanet] Any info on International Women Hockey Players of Goan Origin
Dears In the discussion of international women hockey players of Goan origin, I don't seem to have noticed the name of Lorretta D'Souza, from Moira. She was the only resident of Goa to have played in the gold medal winning 1980 Moscow Olympics team. She was I think the second choice goalkeeper. She's now married to Adv. T.T Srinivasan, has two sons, lives in Vasco, and works in the Customs. Cheers Augusto Augusto Pinto 40, Novo Portugal, Moira, Bardez, Goa, India,403514 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] P 0832-2470336 M 9881126350 - From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click here.
Re: [Goanet] Broadband... down?
hi pls confirm if u mean that the customer care office of bsnl has been shifted to pune. thx On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 1:13 PM, John Gomes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Its not only broadband, but the whole BSNL is down! I hope not and OUT. The > Goa office has shifted to Pune since I understand a circle can have only one > Head Office. Result, no one understands concani or knows Goa at the Xchange. > To find a number in Dhuler, their auto change says number changed.The > changed number phone dialed says number not changed.The operator hasnt a > clue how to check, because the said number is not showing on her computer at > search! She doesnt know where Mapusa is, north or south Goa.IOC has also > closed shop in Goa. BP and HP come under IOC. > > No office in Goa,so same problem for complaints! What a mess.JEG >
[Goanet] Heritage group asks SMC to protect Sanquelim Fort
-- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM JUNE 4: The Heritage Action group has strongly asked the Sanquelim Muncipal Council (SMC) to preserve and protect the Sanquelim fort and it's rich cultural heritage. The incharge of the heritage cell, Prajal Sakhardande through a letter written to the SMC has asked the chairman,Vijaykumar Verekar to preserve the historical monuments. He has also given a detailed plan to restore the fort which might get damaged due to the proposed market complex in the area. The letter has also given the historical importance of the fort after preliminary observation by the team including the conservation architect, Ketan Nachinolkar. As per the report by Nachinolkar the fort was build by Bhosle of Sawantwadi. The structure which is located in the midst of the busy Sanquelim market was later conquered by the Portuguese Marquis de Alorna in 1746 . It was regarded as an important defense post guarding the passage from the ghats to the coastal territories with cannons positioned in the fort. Untill 1817 the fort possessed a set of eight cannons. The fort apparently was abandoned towards the end of the 19th century and fell to a ruinous state. The structure shows a very strong character of fort architecture built of large blocks of the locally available laterite stones. The fort presently houses the offices of the PWD. The interior of the PWD office has a typical military architectural style. It also has a well and several barracks. Due to lack of proper maintence and restoration the fort has now fallen to ruins. Several structural cracks in the walls could be seen in the office of the PWD, encroachment by the shops has also blocked the gateway to the fort. To add to this the SMC has now proposed a new building of the Muncipal council within the fort premises. "We have asked the SMC to preserve the fort wall and the structure of the PWD office so that no damage is done to these sites" Sakhardande told Herald adding "the SMQ need to integrate the historical features into the proposed scheme to avoid isolation and neglect." "This is a rich historical evidence about Sanquelim and the proposed building should not over shadow the fort" Sakhardande stressed "the chairman has responded positively and has promised to preserve the heritage."
Re: [Goanet] Goa Must Permanently Revert To A Union Territory
And so Goa must at least reach the level of Bihar and other lawless states before we get excited? Roland. > Mario asks: >> > Why is everyone getting so excited about this? > Obviously you folks have no idea that worse things are > happening all over India, with very few exceptions. >> > I don't think there is any MLA in Goa yet who was > elected while bars and serving from behind bars.
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 671
> > Dear Cedric, You raise very relevant points. I personally feel that these guys should not just be proverbially emasculated but castrated, Please people, now hold your spines erect and do not cringe. To extrapolate an analogy from who will bell the cat -- in other and better words -- henchyo gunteo katrun / henkan kapaad korun, gomten banduk favo. venantius From: cedrico dacosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Goanet] Communialisation of Goa > > Communialisation of Goa > > i wonder why Goans don't talk about : > > (1) Communialisation of Goa > (2) Saffronisation of Goa > (3) Saffronisation of the Goa Police > (4) Backstabbing of Goa > (5) CM through the backdoor in Goa > (6) Sex scandal at Miramar > (7) Instigating riots in Goa > (8) Turning Goa into Gujarat > (9) Toppling games of Goa > > Beware of the WOLF within... > > Kind regards > Cedric da Costa > Dubai, UAE > >
[Goanet] ART Exhibition: The Mobile Global Exhib ition: 'SHOW YOUR HOPE'
Kerkar Art Complex presents The Mobile Global Exhibition 'SHOW YOUR HOPE' By Martin Voorbij On 4th and 5th June 2008 10:00 a.m. - 7:00 p.m. Since 2003 the mobile global exhibition is traveling around the world with countless paintings made by as many international artists. They all have painted a small panel with the task to 'Show their Hope'. And everywhere the mobile global exhibition presents, storyteller Martin Voorbij uses his endless enthusiasm to speak about the subject of this project: hope in the world. The mobile global exhibition in 2008 is traveling through Turkey, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Pakistan to India in order to present this modern form of story telling along with paintings. Indian counterpart will be displayed along with international selection. Our most realistic plan realized in following cities of India. There will be an interaction between the artist and the press at 5:00 p.m. on 4th June 2008. Kerkar Art Complex Holiday Street, Gaurawado, Calangute - Goa Tel: 2276017 Email: subodhkerkar @satyam.net.in Website: www.subodhkerkar.com
[Goanet] Scarlett swab report deals blow to cops
Scarlett swab report deals blow to cops 4 Jun 2008, 0431 hrs IST,Preetu Nair,TNN PANAJI: British teenager Scarlett Keeling may not have been raped on the night before her death. Swab samples taken from her mouth and vagina have tested negative for the presence of sperms, top police officials told TOI on Tuesday. This deals a severe blow to the prosecution case. The police on Saturday had filed a provisional charge-sheet against the main accused under various sections including rape and murder. SP (North) Bosco George confirmed that the test reports have arrived from the Central Forensic Science Laboratory, Hyderabad, but refused to comment on the findings. The police claim that a drugged Scarlett was sexually assaulted by prime accused Samson D'Souza and then left in water on Anjuna beach, leading to her death. The police had arrested Samson based on another accused Placido Carvalho alias Shana Boy's statement that he had seen a half naked (without his trousers and underwear) Samson lying atop the minor girl and in a position of having sex at 4.45 am. Even key witness Michael Mannion aka Masala Mike, a Britisher, had confirmed this. Later Shana was also arrested allegedly for administering drugs with the common intent to commit rape and murder. He was released on bail by the Children's Court as there was absolutely no material to indicate that he had given Ecstasy tablets or cocaine to Scarlett nor was there any material to indicate his nexus with the offences of rape and murder. The provisional 287-page charge-sheet filed by the Anjuna police seeks to try Samson and Placido under sections 302 (murder), 376 (rape), 201 (disappearance of evidence), 328 (causing hurt by means of poison) and 109 (abetment) of the Indian Penal Code and under section 8(1) 2 of Goa Children's Act. The police have also submitted a list of 87 witnesses to be examined in the case. The charge-sheet also alleges that the deceased was administered drugs and raped before the murder and that she was forcibly drowned in the sea on February 18, 2008. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Scarlett_swab_report_a_blow_to_cops/articleshow/3097887.cms
[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (4Jun08)
GBA to CM Diggu: "Diggu..It's time Goans Denotify your Non-Goan Delhi-Run Congress Govt!!" To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org
[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 120 - PAPER COMPANIES HELP FOREIGNERS BUY LAND IN GOA
PAPER COMPANIES HELP FOREIGNERS BUY LAND IN GOA This news is more than somewhat disturbing, A new dimension to this whole business it does bring. Whatever way one looks at it, It is neither moral nor legit, And calls for immediate curbing - Shanti Dhoot RE: Message: 2 of 26 May 2008 From: Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] PAPER COMPANIES HELP FOREIGNERS BUY LAND IN TINY GOA Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PAPER COMPANIES HELP FOREIGNERS BUY LAND IN TINY GOA Pamela D'Mello Panaji, Apr 10: It earned the headlines, but is hardly likely to save Goa's land. This small state's headline-grabbing new law, enacted in March-end 2008, banning sale of land and properties to foreigners has not made a whit of difference to foreigners wanting a rustic property here. "Why don't you visit our office. There are laws about foreigners buying property. But you can form a company, register it under Indian law and hold the property in that company's name," says the British-owned Goa Property Sales firm which operates three offices in Goa. "We'll do all the paper work, if you buy from us," is the sales pitch of the British firm. Like others from here, it is one of those that has sought to cash in on the craze for a holiday-home in what was a rustic state till not long ago. Forming paper-companies has been a popular route here to hold basically residential property by foreign buyers seeking to circumvent FEMA (Foreign Exchange Management Act) and Reserve Bank of India guidelines governing foreigners buying property. These allow only long term business visa holder residents to hold Indian property. Goa's administration had thrown a couple of obstacles after it found that many were slipping through FEMA's ambiguity and exploiting loopholes with local legal help. Property seekers and sellers though pursued another route, using companies to ostensibly buy and hold Indian property. Figures at the Goa Registrar of Companies office, checked by The Asian Age, bear this out. In 2001, the ROC registered a total of 129 companies, in 2002 it was 114, in 2003 it was 189. Subsequently, the numbers jumped considerably to 397 (2004), 655 (2005), 647 (2006) and 565 (in 2007). "In the last three years, it's mainly foreigners who are coming to register companies," an official at the ROC said, not willing to be quoted. Most of the companies, ROC officials say are in the tourism and travel sector, which permit 100% foreign direct investment, besides being suited to Goa. Hotels with names like "Gary and Helen Retreat Pvt Ltd", "Double Dutch Hotel" and "Cornfield Resorts" have been registered with the aid of lawyers, chartered accountants and company secretaries. It's hard to distinguish the legit from the fake. "It these are all genuine hotels there would probably not be an inch of beach left," an official commented. At least 70% of the companies being registered in Goa would fall in the gray area of "paper" companies, those in the know here suggest. Aside from the company holding the property, it also allows its "directors" to claim long stay business visas at Indian embassies. Visa regimes have already been shortened and tightened to discourage long stayers in Goa. This channel, dispenses with Reserve Bank of India permissions. Registration of companies is online; two people is all that is required and the company could well be dormant for several years, with no questions asked. All that is required is the paperwork for an annual general body meeting and a balance sheet, one chartered accountant told The Asian Age. Other developers have been selling properties to foreigners based on five year renewable leases -- a proposition acceptable to some foreign buyers who find apartment rates insignificantly cheap compared to prices back home. This, together with the buying of second holiday homes by urban Indian has led to disquiet in Goa, with the last few weeks seeing a series of protests against mega-apartment projects coming up in diverse village areas like Aldona, Carmona, Siridao, Benaulim and Soccoro. Though the five-year-renewable leases to foreigners route guarantees no long term freehold rights over land, many from abroad are willing to risk it. Agreement to sale deeds are still going ahead, though the registry has been closed to individual sales since 2006 and the central enforcement directorate are investigating over 400 direct purchases. "You don't need to register a deed. It could be drawn up and not registered, provided there is handing over of possession and parties are willing to trust each other", say the chartered accountant. A few reputed builders still find foreign clients based on this argument. Aware of this scam, Goa chief minister Digamber Kamat has threatened to have a committee enquire into the status of such companies. The new Goa law intends to declare sale and purchase of land to foreigners "against public policy", by a gazetted notification. This will buttress existing FEMA and RBI guidelines t
[Goanet] Daily Quote #42
___ DAILY QUOTE #42: ___ "Today I opened Margao - then went to Fatima Convent for this play by Shaikh Spiah, "Omlette" I think. I really didn't understand that fellow mumbling "to pee or not to pee, that is the question!" How is that a question You gotta go, you gotta go - and Margao Garden is oppojit!" Digu Kamat - Chief Minister of Migrants and Vagrants. ___ BUCHENWALD: Ecological atrocities in extinct Goa, circa 2008. http://www.parrikar.org/images/samples/floriano-1.JPG To report atrocities, violations, illegalities: Call: 832-2428482 Cell: 9822153280/9422063195 --- _ Try Chicktionary, a game that tests how many words you can form from the letters given. Find this and more puzzles at Live Search Games! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207
Re: [Goanet] Goa Must Permanently Revert To A Union Territory
--- On Tue, 6/3/08, Roland Francis wrote: > > In the 46 years since Goa was attached to the > Indian Union, Goan politicians have proved to be > totally incapable of governing Goa. No one could > have dreamed of this. Goans were known for their > total honesty and their ability to shine in > whatever field and endeavor they chose to pursue. > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:46:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I predict the current government will fall within the next six months and Parriker will ride to power. Anyone doing the odds on this bet? > Mario asks: > Why is everyone getting so excited about this? Obviously you folks have no idea that worse things are happening all over India, with very few exceptions. > I don't think there is any MLA in Goa yet who was elected while bars and serving from behind bars. >
[Goanet] In the heart of the Gujjar storm
Guess what? Britto old boy Ashutosh Pednekar is collector of Dholpur in North India, and is in the heart of the Gujjar storm. http://dholpur.nic.in/collectors.htm Ashutosh is one of the few Goans to pass the IAS exams in recent years. Dholpur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It is the administrative headquarters of Dholpur District.Dhaulpur was a part of Bharatpur district. Dhaulpur became a separate district in 1982 comprising ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dholpur Gujjar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Gujjars follow Hinduism, Sikhism and Islam. The Hindu and Sikh Gurjars belong to the caste of Kshatriya varna in Hinduism, while the Muslim Gujjars are ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujjar All theh best, Ashutosh. FN -- Frederick FN Noronha * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org * Phone +91-832-2409490
[Goanet] Goa news for June 4, 2008
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Court gives Goa two weeks time to decide on SEZs - Hindu [3 hours ago] PANAJI: The Goa government on Monday obtained two weeks time from a division bench of the Bombay High Court in Goa to take a decision on its stop-work ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/0-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/2008/06/04/stories/2008060455901500.htm&cid=1218307371&ei=-9NFSKTmAafkggP99ozvCw&usg=AFrqEzeKthNjLA4oUbCBhv5JEw4SOn_VYw *** Exciting competition likely in Group B - Hindu [3 hours ago] In group B, last years runner-up and 29-times champion Bengal found itself in company of three other traditionally strong sides ” former champions Goa, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/9-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/2008/06/04/stories/2008060456361800.htm&cid=1218851264&ei=-9NFSKTmAafkggP99ozvCw&usg=AFrqEzd_uvz8Tn-vvXc2HQLw4IT4dptW-A *** Goa SEZ plans - Calcutta Telegraph [2 hours ago] New Delhi, June 3: The government is expected to take a decision on the 12 approved special economic zones (SEZs) in Goa, which the state government is not ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/6-0&fd=R&url=http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080604/jsp/business/story_9359528.jsp&cid=1218898404&ei=-9NFSKTmAafkggP99ozvCw&usg=AFrqEzdKpL0hC-83ZZzhCthh_daCUb1vEQ *** Goa police files chargesheet in Keeling case - Hindustan Times [5 hours ago] PTI Goa police on Tuesday, filed a chargesheet in a court against the two persons who were arrested for raping and murderingof British teenager Scarlett ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/1-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/redir.aspx?ID=21eaa0bc-7789-44d3-85a4-55f345827dfd&cid=1218849963&ei=-9NFSKTmAafkggP99ozvCw&usg=AFrqEzcfP8CuIGuOCWWw4jbv02fzXmEb7A *** Passengers block train in Goa - Thaindian.com [6 hours ago] Madgaon (Goa), June 3 (ANI): The heat of the Gujjar agitaion in Rajasthan was felt at the Madgaon railway station in far away Goa as the passengers ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/8-0&fd=R&url=http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/passengers-block-train-in-goa_10056221.html&cid=1218844122&ei=-9NFSKTmAafkggP99ozvCw&usg=AFrqEzdKD-5FlbtplORC3j5-RXj__0JmwA *** Emergency control room at South Goa collectorate - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] MARGAO €" The South Goa district magistrate, Mr GP Naik today informed that a round the clock emergency control room has been set up at the South Goa ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/7-0&fd=R&url=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=060468&cid=0&ei=-9NFSKTmAafkggP99ozvCw&usg=AFrqEzco7hDl0GkVkJAxkPgFXD45Twqsdg *** Goa govt to help Churchill Brothers in team-building - Kolkata Newsline [55 minutes ago] Kolkata, June 03 Goan club Churchill Brothers is once again on the verge of doing the unthinkable. Having finished runners-up in the I-League last season, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/5-0&fd=R&url=http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Goa-govt-to-help-Churchill-Brothers-in-teambuilding/318411/&cid=0&ei=-9NFSKTmAafkggP99ozvCw&usg=AFrqEzcZauzNzfVWsj7g_qe3ChPlwNQJLQ *** Karnataka, Goa in quarterfinal league - Hindu [Jun 2, 2008] The win helped Karnataka ensure a berth in the elite quarterfinals league alongside Goa, which had to dig deep into its resources before prevailing over ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/4-0&fd=R&url=http://www.hindu.com/2008/06/03/stories/2008060356121800.htm&cid=0&ei=-9NFSKTmAafkggP99ozvCw&usg=AFrqEzcba-vw4rt_Nlq7c8csB1tpVwaKZw *** Goa: Trees to blame for power outages - Times of India [23 hours ago] Insisting the scenario is still the same and is not restricted to rural Goa, the official pointed to "people in Taleigao" who have planted coconut trees ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/3-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Goa_Trees_to_blame_for_power_outages/articleshow/3094577.cms&cid=0&ei=-9NFSKTmAafkggP99ozvCw&usg=AFrqEzdZdzqu-f7rCKNdUJyZceE0Zb4DqA *** Greens slam Goa\'s draft mineral policy - Times of India [23 hours ago] PANAJI: The state government is in the process of formulating a 'Draft Mineral Policy - Goa' whichostensibly lays stress on protecting the environment and ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=T&ct=us/2-0&fd=R&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Greens_slam_Goas_draft_mineral_policy/articleshow/3094593.cms&cid=0&ei=-9NFSKTmAafkggP99ozvCw&usg=AFrqEzfCDJve_PILjCtsp1DruL91rosulA Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Please identify this beach - reallybeautiful but..
WHY DON'T WE COMPLAIN TO OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE -- DIGU-KAKA -- (that 'kaka' on the beach), AND HAVE HIM GO THERE AND CLEAN UP??? DOESN't DIGU 'KAKA' OWE US THAT MUCH??? WHAT A DISGRACE!! - Original Message - From: "George Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Please identify this beach - reallybeautiful but.. Hi Joe, 100% of your readers will get this right. This is the future "SEZ beach", currently a vote bank of the corrupt-Congress (one word) and future vote-bank of the corrupt-BJP (also one word). Also seen in the pictures are a few Goan suckers working for Goa's "development". And like the people's movement to Save Goa, they are unified in their disagreement or perhaps disagree on their unity as the case may be. All the Gods of our people cannot even save us now. Regards, George --- On Tue, 6/3/08, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 7. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2548582809/sizes/l/ Homework: Some people/kids seen sitting in Pic 2 & 7 above are playing or building sand castles. TRUE or FALSE ?
[Goanet] Sardinha justifies turning Goa into a brothel
cedrico dacosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote today as Sardinha has ressuructed his political career smartly as since he belongs to the minority community and since the saffronites cannot get a base in his Curtorim constituency he becomes a villian... I presume you are referring to the same Sardinha who lost the assembly elections to a rookie in a dominantly minority assembly and then got a chance to enter politics again because Churchill resigned. In fact there were rumours of the pulpit being partially responsible for his downfall in the assembly elections. Why try and justify an idiotic statment by him and be so communal by dragging the 'saffronites' in it? Most of the doings of this congress government are so very obviously disgusting, corrupt and malafide that you dont have to look at it through communal or any other glasses and give it a 'saffron' tinge everytime someone criticizes them. regards, John Pereira
[Goanet] Comedian Agostinho's Tiatr 'POLICE'
Comedian Agostinho's Tiatr 'POLICE' Tiatr Police was first released in Goa on Easter day 23rd March at Panjim. First show in Margao was on 24th March In Margao, There were 2 shows in March 4 in April, 10 in May and 5 in June (up to 9th June)- as 5th,7th,8th & 9th June dates already out on newspaper. It seems there was one show in every 3 days at Margao during the month of May bringing the total Margao shows to 21 At Panjim, there was 1 show in March and about 5 in May. On two occassion we had to come back as all tickets were sold out. On 31st May, there were some reports that Rs.60 tickets were sold in black for Rs.150 each. Kala Academy closed for whole of June for repairs and hence the rush on 31st - Some people took this opportunity amd and must have made good money out of it. Next Panjim Show will be in July Besides Margao, Panjim, the tiatr also staged in other places including Taleigao, Cansaulim, Agassaim etc Police and its troupe are visiting Gulf- Kuwait, Bharain etc There may be one or two more shows in Margao (up to 11 June) before leaving for Gulf POLICE likely to cross 100 in July Congratulations to Comedian Agostinho and his entire troupe. tiatr Flyer http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk12/2549877922/sizes/l/ Watch this trailer http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=sP1orBLZrjs [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Please identify this beach - really beautiful but..
Hi Joe, 100% of your readers will get this right. This is the future "SEZ beach", currently a vote bank of the corrupt-Congress (one word) and future vote-bank of the corrupt-BJP (also one word). Also seen in the pictures are a few Goan suckers working for Goa's "development". And like the people's movement to Save Goa, they are unified in their disagreement or perhaps disagree on their unity as the case may be. All the Gods of our people cannot even save us now. Regards, George --- On Tue, 6/3/08, JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 7. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2548582809/sizes/l/ > > > Homework: > Some people/kids seen sitting in Pic 2 & 7 above are > playing or building sand castles. TRUE or FALSE ?
Re: [Goanet] One happy familiy again!
Dear Floriano-bab, Why do you think otherwise about Oscar-bab? That photo in GT report may be an old one. Every second person walking in Goa is a politician. If you say no one should be friends with politicians, your Goa Suraj party people will also be lonely. Best regards, Diogo --- On Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:27:16 +0530 From: "floriano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] One happy familiy again! I have read the GT report. But I don't detect any warmth, neither in that report, nor on the charming/smiling face - heart of the GBA Convenor. I, along with the entire Goa want to believe Dr. Oscar Rebello that GBA is really united. Hope he really means what he has said. Contrary to what Dr. Oscar Rebello has said in his brief report (GT), I strongly believe that: Goa will be united if Goans unite, leaving aside their personal agendas and agendas of their media/builder cronies and politician friends. floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: "Miguel Braganza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dears, > > Those who were genuinely worried about Goa and interested in the > wellbeing of the GBA, please read GT page 1 today, 03 June,2008. > > " The Goa Bachao Abhiyan [GBA] is solidly united and will continue to > remain so as long as Goa is united" Dr. Oscar Rebello, Convener GBA. Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it on http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/bestofyahoo/
[Goanet] Stop the 2 C's NOW!
To Goanet - Stop the 2 C's - Construction & Conversion - right away in Goa. Can someone come up with a pithy and catchy slogan that could be printed on a T-shirt? r
[Goanet] Communialisation of Goa
Communialisation of Goa At Goanet we have heard a lot on the topics i have listed below: (1) Rape of Goa (2) Murder of Goa (3) Molestation of Goa (4)Betrayal of Goa (5) Selling of Goa (6) Photography of Goa i wonder why Goans don't talk about : (1) Communialisation of Goa (2) Saffronisation of Goa (3) Saffronisation of the Goa Police (4) Backstabbing of Goa (5) CM through the backdoor in Goa (6) Sex scandal at Miramar (7) Instigating riots in Goa (8) Turning Goa into Gujarat (9) Toppling games of Goa I suggest Goans could add a lot more topics to the above few that I have suggested...lets have some humour instead of heavy words like rape, murder, pimps etc...wish decency,...for those who have it was more exhibited out here... I guess there could be very interesting debates on the above topics... Beware of the WOLF within... Kind regards Cedric da Costa Dubai, UAE
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Please identify this beach - really beautiful but..
Talking Photos: Please identify this beautiful beach This beautiful beach has about 1.2 kms long shore line but only about 400 metres of it available for Goans or tourists and rest of it exclusively reserved for migrants so that they can do anything they wish. And if you do cross the limit i.e. 400 mtrs then please watch your every step, I repeat, every step as there might be land mines planted in the ground. This beach is really really beautiful but neglected by the Govt and it very own people (?) OK, facing to the Sea This is to your right 1. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2549412712/sizes/l/ This is to your left 2. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2548582369/sizes/l/ This is in front of you 3. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2549468550/sizes/l/ Walk about 10 minutes towards your left This will be towards your left (Extreme end) –beautiful view 4. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2549411022/sizes/l/ 5. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2549409964/sizes/l/ 6. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2549410566/sizes/l/ And now, this will be to your right 7. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/2548582809/sizes/l/ This is the complete stretch/view of the beach 8. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk5/254940/sizes/l/ Homework: Some people/kids seen sitting in Pic 2 & 7 above are playing or building sand castles. TURE or FALSE ? Video to follow soon.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail. A Smarter Email http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Re: [Goanet] Goa Must Permanently Revert To A Union Territory
I predict the current government will fall within the next six months and Parriker will ride to power. Anyone doing the odds on this bet? selma --- On Tue, 6/3/08, Roland Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In the 46 years since Goa was attached to the Indian Union, > Goan > politicians have proved to be totally incapable of > governing Goa. No > one could have dreamed of this. Goans were known for their > total > honesty and their ability to shine in whatever field and > endeavor they > chose to pursue. >
[Goanet] BrieFNcounters: Plants, gardens, wines, writing how-tos, and the media ...
Some moving images from Goa, via YouTube: >From The Word to The Field : the priest of plants A "diesel priest"? Yes, that's what Father Inacio Almeida was called for his propagation earlier of jatropa, the biogas-creating hardy, easy-to-grow plant. Fr Almeida, now located in another part of Goa, talks of his work and his priorities ... as a green and agri-friendly knowledgeable priest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1dtkd_Rhtg Gardens and fields: A young lady shows the way Christabel Borges finds meaning in an unusual field... plants, biodiversity, and things grown the organic way. She talks about the the work her parents (Francis and Mrs Borges) have inculcated her into... The family lives on the main road at Assagao, that leads to Anjuna. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HZWph91qJk Goa and wine: It's just a hobby -- Lumena Lobo of Siolim Siolim villager Lumena Lobo is a winemaker who works on a range of tropical fruits. Check out her simple story of how she got involved http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka_DrhbxSVU VRR ON WRITING: My novels Celebrated Goan author Victor Rangel Ribeiro on ... how I wrote my first (and second) novel(s). An interview in Porvorim, Goa. May 31, 2008. By FN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNp_pvej3ek VRR ON WRITING: Creative non-fiction Creative non-fiction? Is it fact or fiction? Does it exist at all? How does one write well and readably? Victor Rangel Ribeiro, writer and former journalist, narrates his view at a May 2008 interview in Alto Porvorim (Goa), a former Portuguese colony on the west coast of India. VRR ON WRITING: Getting Into Journalism Prominent Goan writer, novelist and former journalist Victor Rangel Ribeiro, an enthusiastic octogenarian who spends time between NY and Goa and mentors youngsters here, talks about his experiences with journalism in India and the West. Many an interesting tale from a fascinating story-teller here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg4aRLzGAEs VRR ON WRITING: Mentoring people in writing Victor Rangel-Ribeiro, novelist and former journalist, explains the tips and tricks of mentoring people into the world of writing. He tells what works, and what doesn't http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijkS54ebtKU VRR ON WRITING: My advice to newbies Prominent writer and former journalist offers advice to newbies wanting to enter the field. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjiYOnegV7c The Froth Estate? Where is Goa's media going? A union perspective... Long-time journalist and Goa Union of Journalists' chief Suhasini Prabhugaonkar (now with Gomantak, and who earlier wrote for Sunaparant under her maiden name of Sunita Dhempe) explains issues facing the media in Goa... She has been at the helm for two years in succession, and for four annual terms in all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ZTKGq8diU Other brief videos at http://www.youtube.com/user/fredericknoronha -- Frederick FN Noronha * Independent Journalist http://fn.goa-india.org * Phone +91-832-2409490
Re: [Goanet] Marital status in death
Cecil, Its just that they want to tell the world, how long they could survive married life. The longer the stronger the person is. - Original Message From: Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 2 June, 2008 8:01:52 PM Subject: [Goanet] Marital status in death In mid-May this year I was in Mangalore. On a visit to the local church in Vamanjoor, about 12 kms. from Mangalore City, I strayed into the graveyard. I noticed a most interesting feature of the inscriptions on the crosses as well as the marble slabs on the wall. If the deceased was a married person then the date of his/her marriage is clearly mentioned between the Birth and Death dates. For example this is an actual inscription on a cross... - R.I.P. ALBERT SUNNY LOBO BIRTH: 30.7.1954 MARRIED: 1.1.1985 DEATH: 5.7.2005 - Of course this is not a universal rule but quite common. Also on the marble slabs on the 'niche' wall. Their niches incidentally are not like ours here in Goa where only a few bones are exhumed and preserved 3 years after the death. In Mangalore the whole coffin itself is put into the niche, and at the time of burial - not three years later. Of course there are many other peculiarities of how the Roman Catholic faith is practised in Mangalore. For example footwear is kept outside the church - but not compulsorily so. But let's leave that study for another day. What I would like to know is why when worldwide the date of Death and Birth are mentioned on graves or memorials, why only in Mangalore is the Date of Marriage given prominence. Is the state of having lived married or unmarried more important in Mangalore than elsewhere in the world? Cheers! Cecil Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/
Re: [Goanet] When properties don't get settled!
Bella, Contact, Fernando Jorge Colaco as well as his daughter & junior,Teresa Maria. He is well versed in both Portuguese legislation, that still deals with most aspects of property issues in Goa and current Indian legislation. Alfred> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:35:18 +0200> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: goanet@lists.goanet.org> Subject: [Goanet] When properties don't get settled!> > Dear Goanetters,> > I need some information:> 1. What happens if a family cannot agree on division of properties? Or > lets say are not interested to settle everything?.> 2. Can one party go to court?> 3. Is there an on line Goan lawyer with whom one could discuss property > matters?.> > Any kind information will be appreciated.> > Isabella.> _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
[Goanet] DAILY COAT #2 mole-toll
Rajan P. Parrikar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Why is the Digu's mole from Margao . But alas, Soter won't let them. Here he instructs them in the first 'rule of decorum': "Goans must be told the truth." DAILY COAT #2 Who is Digu's mole Who is Parry's mole Whoever it is and whoever they are of Goans they surely are taking a toll. Sure and Soth (truth in Concanim) or Soter as opposed to Fottkiro(or liar) says Tell the truth to Goans. I Agree Rajan Parrikar agrees BUT ...does Rajan Parrikar agree that ALL politicians must tell the truth? If the answer is YES. Does he believe that PARRY 1 has told Goans the Truth or just the Troot ? If not ...why has Rajan not asked Parry1 the questions he should have - instead of making Prawn Molio out of the Q & A BTW: Do I expect Parry2 to answer my questions? Not really Do I expect Parry2 to abuse me with foul words - of course jc ps: when will you guys stop this NONSENSICAL use of non-Goan words like Abhiyan, morcha, porcha, sangh, parivar, janata, maharashtravadi, gram, bandh, et al
[Goanet] Goa Bolo-mat Abhiyan - Soter D'Souza
To Goanet - Why is the Digu's mole from Margao who was caught in flagrante delicto still part of the GBA? Is it because it now suits the Convener to have this two-faced twerp on his side? This post throws light on the ignoble happenings at the last GBA Core Group meeting on June 2. The GBA stalwarts want to keep a lid on their their disgraceful conduct. But alas, Soter won't let them. Here he instructs them in the first 'rule of decorum': "Goans must be told the truth." Regards, r Goa Bolo-mat Abhiyan by Soter D'Souza My stand lies vindicated. The mascot of Goa's Builders Abhiyan could not face the reality like a man. The Truth was sought to be suppressed and that is why the builder's coterie had to cart a pack of intruders to the venue just to protect their mascot. It reminded me of the situation when goons and drunkards are carted to our Gram Sabhas by the MLAs and Sarpanchas just to disrupt the proceedings and prevent the people from making their point. The colleagues were all respectable citizens who definitely would not have acted unruly to warrant that the mascot protect himself by carting his thugs. I have walked through all this fire from 1988 with my head held high and fearless. This builder's coterie is too miniscule an entity to be taken cognisance of. I am part of national and local movements but never had we reason to curtail the freedom of expression of any of our colleagues. Misunderstandings and difference of opinion are always there. What happened on 2nd June was simply cheap and dirty and marks the begining of the end of a forum that emerged to save Goa. It is shameful that the coterie has behaved worse than our corrupt political thugs. Almost 50% of the intruding faces were alien to others and it was suprising that besides a handful of activists most of the others who profess to be the champions of the people's rights in Goa did not even have a little courage to speak out and stand for their rights. They behaved worse than cowards. It amounted to they allowing themselves to be raped by lying down without any resistance. We definitely cannot fight the hostile forces with this cadre of cowards. No wonder corrupt politiians rule us endlessly because we are ready to make small concessions at the cost of our rights. If the mascot had nothing to hide he should have faced the forum like a man rather than behaving like a village thug who ensures that a pack of goons will cheer him on. And while all decorum and rules were trampled upon to protect the mascot, the coterie along with their pack of intruders tried to suppress the truth from coming into public domain by introducing something called 'rules of decorum'. Perhaps they were confusing it with 'decoration' that many of them were reduced to, because they could not follow what was going on. The truth has defintiely become bitter. The truth has spilled into public domain and is becoming embarassing. The mascot is jittery and therefore had to stoop so low. Activism is about morality and ethics. If everyone is going to hire gangs to make their point, one can imagine what the state of affairs will be. What moral right has this coterie to talk about decorum when it closets itself in the cabin of the CM and emerges from it only to try and negotiate and run it's own colleagues down to please their beloved CM? What moral right has this coterie when it depends for its daily bread from real estate and mining sharks? Freedom is my birth right. I shall not allow the builder's coterie to suppress my freedom that has been won for me by the Father of this nation. The interest of the people of Goa is supreme and I will say what I have to say, and when I have to say it. This is my constitutional right. -Soter D'Souza
Re: [Goanet] Goa Must Permanently Revert To A Union Territory
All said and done , this guy is might happy to find his name in the list of possible 'governors' of Goa under reverted back to UT, enough for me to quickly make a trip to the best tailoring firm in Mapusa to stitch a brand new 'gaddi' :-)). But Roland, please hold the UT horses until Goa has given a chance to the formation of a GOA-CENTRIC government under the capable whip of the Goa Su-Raj Party, for just one term or less, on trial basis. If this too does not work, then UT it must be. Do we have a deal?? floriano goasuraj --- Original Message - From: "Roland Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goanet" Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:47 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goa Must Permanently Revert To A Union Territory In the 46 years since Goa was attached to the Indian Union, Goan politicians have proved to be totally incapable of governing Goa. No one could have dreamed of this. Goans were known for their total honesty and their ability to shine in whatever field and endeavor they chose to pursue. Goans in Bombay and the rest of India and in Pakistan were well known for their capable service both as leaders and followers in public and private service. Names of Goans who were well known throughout India are too numerous to mention - from Governors to Central Govt Mandarins to Service Chiefs to Industry Captains to nationally reputed doctors, lawyers and academicians
[Goanet] CM partially decongests traffic at Margao
In a sudden development the Chief Minister and Margao MLA Mr Digamber Kamat went on an inauguration spree this evening in his home constituency Margao just a day before the commencement of school academic year 2008-09 and exactly three days before he hopes to complete an year in office. With PWD Minister Mr Churchill Alemao, MLA Navelim and Chairperson of Margao Municipal Council Mr Johnson Fernandes,a) one road under rail (subway) near the Damodar College just North of the Railway crossing behind Loyola school and b) two road over bridges were inaugurated one near the ICCI Bank en route Fatima Convent and the other just alongside the railway tracks near the old railway crossing - Chapel. The road under bridge (sub way ) is meant for cars and three wheelers while the other two road over bridges are intended for two wheelers. There are no side walks as of now and there is no scope of having one on either of the two road overbridges . Negotiating around the bends will be a little difficult and wide bodied cars may have to be a bit cautious. It may be recalled that the KRC had agreed to construct 3 "foot over bridges" and one sub way on demand of the Goa Government and the PWD Govt of Goa was to deal with the land acquisition 8590 m2 according to Sr Regional Engineer KR Madgaon It is also learnt that the PWD went on a land acquisition spree in November 2006 and many of the occupants were not aware of the same until the works began. Some widows had struggled to have the bridge shifted to 10 mts beyond their ancestral house as the bridge within the proximity of their residence could render their property as an uneconomical holding. The railways finally agreed to move it to around 6.2 mts and also agreed to grant them permission if they so desire for any construction activity waiving set back requirements. near KM 440/719.5 and KM 440/713 However one wonders how the KRC and the PWD have allowed a Building almost touching the road over bridge at Pedda, KM 440/719.5i nstead of the 4.5 mts distance agreed by the KRC at the time of grant of NOC for a "residential premise" NOT the present structure with offices and shops many wondered. Surprisingly as the works were brought to a stand still owing to these developments the Railways continued their work (apparently owing to the local MLA's desire to solve the taffic problem irrespective of the hardship to the families concerned; ) and finally KRC by a letter to one of the residents dated nil stated that " further shifting is not possible as other parts of the bridge are completed" Many of the motorists and two wheelers were caught unaware of the developments today and continued to stay in "Q" for the gates to open after the trains arrived as usual. There is no doubt that these developments coming as it does a day before re-opening of schools for the academic year 2008-2009 will be welcomed by most parents and other school going children; but given the narrow structure there is need for a the same to manned by the Traffic police at least during peak hours to avert a tragedy. With this one of Margao's major ills will have been set right by the MLA leaving only the road crossing at Marliz Cafetaria in the heart of the city to be dealt with. When this writer visited the site and had first hand opinion from the users at random, there were some women from the vicinity who expressed fears due to no illumination on the bridge, mainly the two road over bridges. Others feared that prostitution which goes on with full knowledge of the Margao police will flourish now that the new "avenues " are provided. Near the road under the bridge (subway) the works on the storm drains are still being carried, out and according to a worker at the site he stated that the job of approach roads and the storm drains are the works of the PWD and will be completed shortly. This area was prone to flooding and Margaoites would need to keep a watch on the developments. Incidentally it may be noted that a cross which was more than 200 years and whose feast was being celebrated every May was demolished albeit with the "consent" of the Parish Priest of Our Lady of Grace Church and other residents from Pedda; but with a rider that the same ought to be constructed. However according to the residents there seems to be no sign of the same. Infact when some residents enquired of the same with the PWD and Railway officials they feigned ignorance and instead were willing to give money to any one who was willing to select an appropriate site and construct the same. This angered many residents Hindus Moslems and Catholics from the area and they were preparing for a show down with black placards demonstrations. However according to one resident, it was the owing to the timely intervention of a Margao based PI who was in civil clothes the residents preferred not to marr the inauguration. M
[Goanet] Greens slam Goa's draft mineral policy
Greens slam Goa's draft mineral policy 3 Jun 2008, 0200 hrs IST,Preetu Nair,TNN PANAJI: The state government is in the process of formulating a 'Draft Mineral Policy - Goa' which ostensibly lays stress on protecting the environment and on corporate social responsibility in the mining belt. But NGOs and environmentalists have come out strongly against it. Government officials are tightlipped on the policy and refused to be drawn into any discussion on it. "The government, it seems, has silently followed the diktats of the mining lobby and prepared the draft to please mine owners. It allows mining in the same manner, this time under the garb of uplifting villages as part of social-corporate responsibility," said environmentalist Ramesh Gauns, who has studied the draft policy. "Without taking into account the ground realities, no draft policy can be prepared," he added. Saying that the policy had failed to impress, an incensed Gauns added, "This makes a mockery of the villagers and humiliates those affected by mining activity." Environmentalist Claude Alvares also showed surprise. "None of us working on environment issues in the mining sector have been contacted for preparing the policy," he said. According to Gauns, if the government was serious about its commitment to people, all it had to do was check whether mine owners have been responsibly carrying out mining activities. "Studies conducted by The Energy and Resources Institute (TERI) and the Goa assembly house committee report of 2000 say that mining has destroyed water bodies, paddy fields and created environmental hazards," said Gauns. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa/Greens_slam_Goas_draft_mineral_po licy/articleshow/3094593.cms ~(^^)~ Avelino
[Goanet] Political Shakers & Movers
'Political Shakers & Movers' This write-up is prompted by the Star Letter - Herald [26/May/2008] - 'Reader Speak' - captioned 'Government for the People' by Jose Maria Miranda. The general refrain we hear today with respect to Goan politics is that " we must elect good people " This is expressed through the letters to the editors , in the editorial articles, in sermons and religious briefings, people we talk to, etc. One thing is sure, politically what is what and who does what has captured the imaginations of the people of late. People who are touched by Goa and who have realized that this veritable golden goose is being torn apart by forces to satisfy their insurmountable greed, have come to terms with the understanding of our politicians who have become like our household fixtures, difficult to get rid-of, for sentimental reasons. And we pass our judgments on them which would not be entirely fair. We have called them the 40 thieves, comparing them to the story-book 'Ali Baba and his ruthless gang, who went about pillaging and plundering and coming back home with the loot to the chant of 'OPEN SESAME'. In Goa, the chant, by and large, has been: 'Open Thy doors Oh 'Public Treasury'. And we have called our politicians all sorts of names. But when the opportunity comes along every election time to cleanse Goa's dirty politics by rejecting these so called dirty politicians and/or to teach them, as well as the parties that field them, a good lesson, we have been found wanting, and miserably so, at that. I say that there is no such thing as 'good, bad or ugly' politician and there is no such thing as a 'political carrier', because politicians are not made. They are born. There are 'doers' who aspire to do good for the sake of doing good so that every one benefits out of that action, including the doers themselves, and, there are 'shakers & movers who will want to do good, if only they and theirs will benefit and the rest be damned. Most of the politicians, who have touched us for long or even brushed us briefly through their short stints, are and have been good, respectable persons. If they were not, we would have been throwing rotten eggs at them at every opportunity we got. I don't see Pratapsing Rane, who is a Harvard graduate, as a bad person. If that was true then he would not be the Chief Minister of Goa 7 times over with a distinguished political career. Rane Jr. cannot be a bad person. After all has he not been elected with a thumping and enviable win. The same holds good for Dayanand Narvekar, Babush Monserrate, Mickey Pacheco Manohar Parrikar, Sardinha, Luizinho Faleiro, Jose Philip, Philip Neri, Babu Azgaonkar, Churchill brothers et al. Either one of these two things has happened. (1) They were propelled into politics because of their ability to lead, Or, (2) They happened to get a 'winning lottery'. In either case, unfortunately for us, they are elected by a dead flock, meaning, the flock that has no idea where to go and where they are being led to. If this is true, that we are dead and insensitive, then we do not have the moral right to be sore at them, do we? Dead people or rather 'zombies' (the living dead) do not complain, for they have forfeited their right to complain by being dead, either dead dead or living dead. But then we have a marvelous thing called the 'democracy' where only 49 per cent of the flock is allowed to be stone dead with the remaining 51 per cent taking on a role of being the not caring, not knowing, zombies. And the shakers & movers that we choose to elect see to it that they are left all to themselves to have the field day of leading no one but themselves towards the 'McKenna's Gold' for the simple reason that the 51 per cent zombies drag-pushes the 49 per cent dead-load over the precipice, to get themselves caught in the sucking motion to be dragged over by the sheer momentum of the action, leaving no one but the shakers and movers to do whatever they want to do. During the election time, we first demand our price from them which they are more than willing to part with. Then we elect them, bless them, garland them, felicitate them, rejoice and make merry with them. After having gone through all these uncalled for antics, we suddenly get up from our deep sleep, raving and ranting, also to have the gall of calling them 'corrupt', 'selfish-seeking monsters' etc, that they do this and they do that. If this has been happening consistently, which unfortunately has been, then there must be something wrong at the core of the whole business of politics. And why this is happening cannot be easily explained unless this is put in a singular person. On the one side, let us say that 'I' Floriano Lobo consider myself a very good person, like every one else does. (I am yet to know of a person who considers himself a bad person. Even the worst criminal will d
[Goanet] Matanhy et al & Develoment
Unless I have missed something, Matanhy Saldanha's concept of Goa's development lacks any basis of the kind of "employment" he expects Goans to be engaged in to realise it. He makes no mention of the need for any public transport in this connection. Maybe he expects his Utopian development as a god given right in this state. _ Catch the latest fashion shows, get beauty tips and learn more on fashion and lifestyle. http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-in
Re: [Goanet] Dual Citizenship
Like Jose, I also found interesting their interpretation of Portuguese law regarding the date 25th April 1976. They say that all those born in the ex-Portuguese State of India before 25th April 1976 are Portuguese citizens by right. The current interpretation (which has been used since 1980s by the Central Registry of Births in Lisbon) is that only those born before 19th December 1961 are Portuguese citizens. These lawyers extend that date to another 15 years and few months!! Amazing! I then reviewed their theory and they may be right. It appears to be a loophole... It appears that Portugal only really officially abdicated the rights to the province of "Estado da India" when the new current Portuguese constitution replaced the previous one. And the current Portuguese constitution is dated of 25th April 1976. The previous Portuguese constitution recognized Estado da India as a Portuguese territory. So, basically, these lawyers interpretation is that according to Portuguese law, Estado da India only ceased to be Portuguese when the current Portuguese constitution was accepted, i.e., 25 April 1976. In other words, Goa was still very much a Portuguese territory until the 24th April 1976, according to the Portuguese Constitution of that time. And it was only on the 25th April 1976 that Portugal officially abdicated of the rights to Estado da India with the new accepted Portuguese constitution. Of course, at the moment, I do not think this new theory is accepted by the Central Registry Office. But it may be in the future. I looked into the law and the constitution and it is true that I cannot find a reference to 19th Dec 1961 in the Portuguese Nationality Law. So, it appears that someone interpreted that the date was 19th Dec 1961 but if it is not in the constitution or it is not in Portuguese Nationality Law, then it is very likely that the date is indeed the date on which Estado da India ceased to be Portuguese under Portuguese law, i.e., 25 April 1976, which is the date when the new current Portuguese Constitution replaced the previous one. Very interesting indeed! A masterpiece of a discovery which will probably please lots of our Goans who no longer need to depend on their parents to be Portuguese first. We are now talking of 1976! That is only 32 years ago and will probably make half of Goan born people eligible!!! Best regards Paulo Colaco Dias. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Colaco < jc> Sent: 03 June 2008 14:49 To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! Subject: Re: [Goanet] Dual Citizenship e: I was a bit concerned about the following wrt the date 'before 25th April 1976'. I then noticed the words "The interpretation that we make from the Portuguese Law". Interesting. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release Date: 03/06/2008 07:00
[Goanet] When properties don't get settled!
Dear Goanetters, I need some information: 1. What happens if a family cannot agree on division of properties? Or lets say are not interested to settle everything?. 2. Can one party go to court? 3. Is there an on line Goan lawyer with whom one could discuss property matters?. Any kind information will be appreciated. Isabella.
[Goanet] NGO'S UNITE
Letters to the editor ,3rd June 2008 The need of the hour is for all the NGO's of Goa to unite. The need of the hour is to put aside ego,pride and self.The need of Goa is to bond together and to cement goan ideas and ideals. Goans have woken up from their slumber and villagers are protesting about mining, mega projects etc.New NGO"s are forming ,people are filled with zeal and passion and they genuinely want to do something for goans and Goa.However, we have the enemy watching ,waiting , silent ,ready to strike-- ready to divide and rule.Let us not be fooled by these masterminds.Let us not lull oursleves into a false sense of security. Goans must be alert and they must be armed and prepared to battle with these forces of evil.Each NGO genuinely has its own agenda, each ngo is definitely working for the good of the people -- but we must unite..In solidarity,in unity--,in combined forces only can goan NGO's be powerful.Can you imagine the combined forces of all our NGO's? Goan ground will shatter and shake.Democracy will triumph and truly we will be forced to have a Government of the people, by the people and for the people.May God give people discernment and wisdom to make right choices which will affect the future of Goa. Melinda Coutinho Powell,
Re: [Goanet] Enough is Enough
Floriano-- Elsewhere, John Monteiro has suggested we put our differences behind and unite under one banner. You appear to be respected in the Goan community. We need leadership! Are you able to coral all the disparate leaders and get them to sit down together to discuss issues and form a plan of action--or am I too naive believe that such a course of action is feasible? Time seems to be running out as the politicians and developers are about to finish off what is left of sobit Goa. Do make the attempt if you can. Every Goan I know is prepared to help in uniting us and providing the wherewithal to put up a fight. With good wishes Chris J. Vaz Weehawken, NJ, USA - Original Message - From: "floriano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Enough is Enough I have always said that Delhi must stop using Goa as its holiday spot and impose its friends (industrialists etc) on Goa to its detriment. I have always said that Goa's CM must command respect in Delhi. However this is not possible because our own Goans have shown to Delhi that they do not possess back-bones, that all they are good at doing is CHAMCHAGIRI and act as DALLALs to Delhi's High and mighty. This is true of the Congress, the BJP, not forgetting the NCP, the less talked about, the better. That those who consider themselves as Goa's Freedom Fighters are nothing but the brainless and the gutless 'mules' put to work by Delhi. That if they have any self-respect left after having fattened themselves on the largese of pensions since 1961, they must reliase that they have failed Goa and Goans not just once but a thousand times. Arwin is very right. Enough should necessarily be Enough under the normal circumstances. But it is a pity that Goans are far from getting to realise the actual meaning of ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. We Goans will write about it, talk of it, worry about it but when it comes a knocking at our doors, we will fail to recognise it. A pity, really. The refusal to denotify the 3 SEZs in Goa is the final test that Delhi has put Goans to. If we succumb to it, everything will be lost forever. Goans will be like scared dogs with their tails between their legs, the roar in their throats having been snatched away forever. If we ever did have an ounce of self-respect, we shall commandeer both, the SELF-RESPECT and the ROAR in our throats, NOW and show these Delhi TOUTS who they are dealing with. We must not lose this opportunity to sink whatever differences we have with one another. We must come out from our cosy bedrooms and our shameful pulpits from where we have been writing and dishing out philosophies to no end, cross the road and see what is happening there. In short, Goa needs a breath of fresh air from this ever polluted political environment which has been nothing but 'you cratch my back and I shall scratch yours, double time'. We must learn to treat all deputationists in Goa as the agents of Delhi to subvert and maim Goa and Goans with the help of our elected voiceless chamchas, all, without exceptions. The revolution is around the corner. We must get the guillotines out from their dusty corners, and keep them ready to be put to work. If we fail to do that NOW, it will be our gullible and good for nothing throats which will be caught in the treacheous and looting fists from Delhi supported and helped to press harder by our very own 'Judas' the mine owners, the real estate barons and institutions that should be institutions of concern for its people over the long run. So Goans Hark Ye ! Arwin Mesquita has sounded the clarion call . Enough is Enough. Put your best foot forward and march to free Goa and Goans. Do not stop until the job is well done. And once you have done it, please do not go back to sleep to lose all that which you have gained but remain vigilant always so that you protect what you have fought for to leave it intact for posterity to enjoy. floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: "Arwin Mesquita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goanet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: [Goanet] Enough is Enough SEZ's, Mega-Projects etc are proven to be Anti-Goan. On SEZ's, even the Goa Government's SEZ Task Panel has come to the same conclusion. I believe more is at stake here i.e. Financially/Politically for the Dictatorial Central Government, their wealthy Non-Goan Industrialists lobby/political backers & their loyal Goan Political servants; who are disgustingly looting Goa. The Central Government seems confident that as they fooled Goans in 1961 by illegally occupying Goa without our approval, they can now get away with anything. Enough is Enough. It is High Time Goans go for a complete review of the annexation of Goa into India and DEMAND special status (like some other Indian States) to protect
[Goanet] Any info on International Women Hockey Players of Goan Origin
Otilia Mascarenhas from Pune is a Goan who was Captain of the Indian Women's Hockey team during the 60's and an Arjuna Award winner as well. > She later became an Orthopedic Surgeon and specialist in Sports Medicine and now lives in Germany. >
[Goanet] Open question to Mathany Saldanha
Dear Floriano, the contents of what you call a -- can of worms -- is kown by all Goans... trust me...the shades and different colours of the politicians and how they took Goans for a ride is by now common knowledge. The last elections threw some surprizes...await another one -- watch how those that got lucky will bite dust...Goans have or are slowly waking up to the ways they have been traditionally played with...the worst politicising of Goa was the dividing of it on communial lines... All these empty vessels that are making the most noise these days are actully camouflaging the actual hidden agenda...you think any government elected to power or comes to power by the back door (like BJP excels in this game)...will actually drive the land sharks away? Its just that Peter is jealous that Paul is in power and is trying to bring him down so that he can grab Pauls power and all the loot that comes with it... The intelligent Goans are realising this very fast...and also realising the fake propoganda of the communial elements... and btw, by now you should know...i have faced the worst...nothing can be more frightful than what i have gone through and my experiences right from my college days...i fear none, except the Almighty! Not in the least a bunch of clowns! Kind regards Cedric da Costa Dubai
[Goanet] who kept the SEZ letter secret?
To, Goanet, Chief minister is feigning ignorance about that controversial letter which is dated May 12. If such a letter, having wide reaching ramifications, can take more than 20 days to reach the table of chief minister, that it self shows the state of affairs of our "good" governance. Was the chief minister kept in dark about the letter by the bureaucrats or was it the planned strategy to avoid the hue and cry that would follow. But the fact is, they managed to keep it a closely guarded secret all these days knowing very well the strong reaction it would generate in Goa. In fact, it would have remained underground at least for many more days, had we not exposed it. The SEZ promoters brought this letter to the notice of the high court to support their demand of lifting 'stop work' order by the state government. Just couple of reporters were present in the court when the case was heard yesterday. There was every likelihood that they would have ignored this letter as just a minor matter and, as usual, would have stressed on the order that asked the government to decide on the 'stop work' order within 2 weeks. We came to know about this letter when our reporter made a passing reference to it. We did not waste any further time to flash this news on our network and subsequently all other media gave it the prominence it deserved. Interestingly, state government has suddenly got up from its slumber and holding emergency meetings to find a solution to this issue. If the state government considers this issue of such a high importance, then it would be proper on the part of the government to investigate why this letter was kept secret for all these days. Niraj Naik Editor, Digital Goa SMS News Service -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:29:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rajan P. Parrikar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Goa on deathwatch To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To Goanet - If Cipla, Raheja and other companies are allowed to get equipment back to their SEZ sites, Goa is finished. It could happen in only two weeks. The govt cleverly waited until the onset of monsoons to drop this bomb on us, knowing full well that mobilization of resistance is hard at this time of the year. Also - when did the Goa govt hear of this letter from the Centre? Was it on May 15? Can anyone confirm? If yes, why did it wait for over 2 weeks before letting us know? http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/00420080601.htm http://www.ptinews.com/pti%5Cptisite.nsf/0/C5C59C9D72A812176525745C004EB84F? OpenDocument On a sombre note, r --
Re: [Goanet] Dual Citizenship
Roland Francis wrote: Could any Goanetter please make sense of this email specifically addressed to me alone. I have never expressed an interest in applying for Portuguese nationality either on this forum or in private. Is this an unsolicited communication from a genuine Portuguese law firm or just another internet scam. My dear Roland, A couple+ of points a: I was once in a Bombay restaurant which apparently was "sold" by a person who did not own it. Confusao occured when the new "owner" came to take possession. b: Sure such land deals and 'conversions' could take place in Goa as a Mundcar or alleged Mundcar sells of someone else's property and a fourth party starts building on it with No Objection Certificate from the Ponchayatt or some Gram Sabha or Garam Masala. Back to this email from the Portuguese 'advogados'. c: Many are knowledgeable of the Law. Many more are knowledgeable of Goan suckers who will part with money for a Portuguese passport. There also are 'fake passport' merchants around. d: I believe that he who sends money without a written and signed contract for services, gives that money as a gift. e: I was a bit concerned about the following wrt the date 'before 25th April 1976'. I then noticed the words "The interpretation that we make from the Portuguese Law". Interesting. [ 1. The interpretation that we make from the Portuguese Law is that all those people that were born in the former Portuguese State of India before 25th April 1976 and their descendants until the third generation are Portuguese, even that the descendants were born abroad.] f: In any event, those who are interested are invited to read the article on Portuguse Nationality by Paulo Colaco Dias http://www.colaco.net/1/PauloNationality.htm g: Please understand that the Portuguese Government appear to be willing to honour their responsibility to accord their nationals (from Goa, Damao e Diu) the rights to nationality BUT are unwilling to trust the BOGUS certificates issued in India. h: If the Portuguese are not careful, a ton of Gujratis will claim to be from Portuguese Damao and Diu and claim the right to Portuguese nationality - the same with sardars and others from Goa. i: That is why the machinery has come to a near stand-still and possibly genuine applicants are stranded. All because the documents issued in India are considered suspect. Please see Dead Men Flying: http://www.colaco.net/1/DeadMenFlying.htm Chandrakant Keni basically saying KICK out those who apply for Portuguese citizenship. Is this the xenophobic guy that Parrikar appointed as NRI commissioner or whatever? http://www.colaco.net/1/KeniBunkPort.htm Some hurdles for Goans to overcome while obtaining Portuguese Nationality in 2006 by Livia de Abreu Noronha http://www.colaco.net/1/LiviaAbreuPortNationality06.htm good wishes jc
Re: [Goanet] Enough is Enough
I have always said that Delhi must stop using Goa as its holiday spot and impose its friends (industrialists etc) on Goa to its detriment. I have always said that Goa's CM must command respect in Delhi. However this is not possible because our own Goans have shown to Delhi that they do not possess back-bones, that all they are good at doing is CHAMCHAGIRI and act as DALLALs to Delhi's High and mighty. This is true of the Congress, the BJP, not forgetting the NCP, the less talked about, the better. That those who consider themselves as Goa's Freedom Fighters are nothing but the brainless and the gutless 'mules' put to work by Delhi. That if they have any self-respect left after having fattened themselves on the largese of pensions since 1961, they must reliase that they have failed Goa and Goans not just once but a thousand times. Arwin is very right. Enough should necessarily be Enough under the normal circumstances. But it is a pity that Goans are far from getting to realise the actual meaning of ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. We Goans will write about it, talk of it, worry about it but when it comes a knocking at our doors, we will fail to recognise it. A pity, really. The refusal to denotify the 3 SEZs in Goa is the final test that Delhi has put Goans to. If we succumb to it, everything will be lost forever. Goans will be like scared dogs with their tails between their legs, the roar in their throats having been snatched away forever. If we ever did have an ounce of self-respect, we shall commandeer both, the SELF-RESPECT and the ROAR in our throats, NOW and show these Delhi TOUTS who they are dealing with. We must not lose this opportunity to sink whatever differences we have with one another. We must come out from our cosy bedrooms and our shameful pulpits from where we have been writing and dishing out philosophies to no end, cross the road and see what is happening there. In short, Goa needs a breath of fresh air from this ever polluted political environment which has been nothing but 'you cratch my back and I shall scratch yours, double time'. We must learn to treat all deputationists in Goa as the agents of Delhi to subvert and maim Goa and Goans with the help of our elected voiceless chamchas, all, without exceptions. The revolution is around the corner. We must get the guillotines out from their dusty corners, and keep them ready to be put to work. If we fail to do that NOW, it will be our gullible and good for nothing throats which will be caught in the treacheous and looting fists from Delhi supported and helped to press harder by our very own 'Judas' the mine owners, the real estate barons and institutions that should be institutions of concern for its people over the long run. So Goans Hark Ye ! Arwin Mesquita has sounded the clarion call . Enough is Enough. Put your best foot forward and march to free Goa and Goans. Do not stop until the job is well done. And once you have done it, please do not go back to sleep to lose all that which you have gained but remain vigilant always so that you protect what you have fought for to leave it intact for posterity to enjoy. floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: "Arwin Mesquita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goanet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:46 PM Subject: [Goanet] Enough is Enough SEZ's, Mega-Projects etc are proven to be Anti-Goan. On SEZ's, even the Goa Government's SEZ Task Panel has come to the same conclusion. I believe more is at stake here i.e. Financially/Politically for the Dictatorial Central Government, their wealthy Non-Goan Industrialists lobby/political backers & their loyal Goan Political servants; who are disgustingly looting Goa. The Central Government seems confident that as they fooled Goans in 1961 by illegally occupying Goa without our approval, they can now get away with anything. Enough is Enough. It is High Time Goans go for a complete review of the annexation of Goa into India and DEMAND special status (like some other Indian States) to protect Goa's Unique Identity. We can't be intimidated by critics quoting the Indian Constitution, Goans were not party to framing of the Constitution then, so now we have a right to put in Goa's Unique Considerations. There is a limit to our Tolerance!! Arwin Mesquita, UAE.
Re: [Goanet] GOA of New Jersey donates to GOA's ASRO
Hi, Tony-- $450.00 divided by 300 attendees comes to a contribution of $1.50 each. That wouldn't even fetch a cup of Starbucks latte which costs in excess of $4.00. Not exactly big spenders, us New Jersey-ites, eh? Now if we had figured $100.00 x 300 attendees, that would have netted a more meaningful $30,000! (or something like 15 lakh rupees?) That would REALLY have helped ASRO! On a more serious note, I trust you have completely recovered from your recent heart emergency and back to your usual effervescent self! Regards Chris - Original Message - From: "Tony Barros" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:59 PM Subject: [Goanet] GOA of New Jersey donates to GOA's ASRO GOA of New Jersey gives to GOA's ASRO HIV Aids victims A 50/50 charity raffle held during the Spring Fling dance organized by the Goan Association of of New Jersey (GOANJ) last Saturday raised some $450 towards the ASRO Home for children with HIV/ Aids in Tivim, GOA. The project - one of two in Goa run by Caritas-Goa - houses about 20 children. Due to the growing number of children , plans are underway to build another structure which will offer additional space for shelter and recreation. The GOANJ has contributed $500 towards this Building Fund. The other Home is in Cavelossim. The dance at the Parish Center of Our Lady of Peace Church in North Brunswick was attended by more than 300 people - an alltime record for a summer dance and surpassing last year's attendees of 270 people. More than 30 people were on the waiting list. The dance featured New Jersey's first goan band- The "PRISM" led by Brian Barreto (of "Bonaventure" fame from BombaY) , who "doubled" as a Deejay. The Spring Fling dance was revived last year after more than a six year lapse. They were discontinued due to poor attendance. Tony Barros. Union , New Jersey. U . S . A .
Re: [Goanet] info on international goan women hockey players
Eugene Correia wrote: > Eliza makes it six Goans in the Moscow Olympics, where > women's hockey was introduced for the first time. This > beats the record held by Goan men, five of them in the > 1948 London Olympics. Eugene, There were five Goan men representing Tanzania in the 1980 Olympics. I know sure that Mervyn Fernandes was on the Indian team that won that years gold medal. So that makes at least six Goan men participating in an Olympic tournament. In the early sixties, there were several Kenyan Goans in both the Olympic field hockey and track teams. If you add them to those in the Indian teams, I am sure there would be more than six Goans at an Olympics. Also, in 1968, a Zanzibar born Goan captained the Mexican field hockey team. He scored the first goal in the Olympic tournament held there. Mervyn3.0 __ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
Re: [Goanet] Dual Citizenship
Hi there, Before Goa became part of the Indian mess, all births were registered at the local church (this is a valid certificate to the best of my knowledge) and at the registrar, in the closest town. The other option isthe records of all birth records (before 1961) are kept in Lisbon (I cannot remember the exact location). Its almost impossible a birth is not registered (I may be wrong here). The Portuguese (they are down on their luck these days) were pretty good record-keepers and well-organised in the old days, where Goa is concerned. You may ask around amongst the Goan Portuguese and they 'may' tell you where you can find birth certificates etc. If you find no help, find a 'd*unk'- buy him a few shots of Maicera, it works wonders! When you do see anyone in a Portuguese government office, keep a small 'purbois' handy-nothing happens unless you tip, just like in any government offices in Goa. The Pandu. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 5:54 AM, JOHN MONTEIRO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My brother was born in Goa 1st November 1954, he does not have a birth > certificate (never had, we wondered if he was actually registered at all (?), > I wonder if he can apply for a search for a birth certificate? >
[Goanet] Goa Must Permanently Revert To A Union Territory
In the 46 years since Goa was attached to the Indian Union, Goan politicians have proved to be totally incapable of governing Goa. No one could have dreamed of this. Goans were known for their total honesty and their ability to shine in whatever field and endeavor they chose to pursue. Goans in Bombay and the rest of India and in Pakistan were well known for their capable service both as leaders and followers in public and private service. Names of Goans who were well known throughout India are too numerous to mention - from Governors to Central Govt Mandarins to Service Chiefs to Industry Captains to nationally reputed doctors, lawyers and academicians. Goans in Africa and the colonies served the British and Portuguese governments well, albeit on the second tier. In Goa itself nearing 1961, Goans were practically ruling Goa in all high administrative positions with minimum interference from the Portuguese masters and to the best of their ability with the resources accorded to them. In the latter half of the 20th century and till today, Goans have prospered in the Gulf. While it is well known that these were mainly in lower positions, what is not so well known is that it is a fact that many Goans prospered as the right hand men of big merchant Arabs and as chiefs and near-chiefs in the highest echelons of the oil, health, banking, telecommunications and various other public and private sectors. There is no need to document Goan enterprise in countries like the UK, Australia, US, Canada and a few European countries. All you have to do is read Goanet, Goan Voice UK and other other Goan related cyber information sources. The names are familiar to all and new ones emerge daily. Therefore as I said, it is a shame that when it comes to Goa itself, the very land that produced all these luminaries has had to suffer from the consequences of rotten-ness from individuals who are a part of this same stock. We can blame it on a thousand reasons and they all might be true, but that does not do any good. The time to analyse is gone and the time to act has come. In the pockets of the recent past, the experience of Goa being administered directly by the Central Govt has been many times better than when Goa has been ruled by those elected. The chief administrator the Lt Governor has mostly been well chosen and anxious to prove his mettle in order to be promoted to better positions elsewhere in the country. This individual is free to take Goans of high calibre who have experience of the existing problems and how to solve them. Unlike civil servants they can be appointed for fixed terms and for reasonable remuneration. These people will work not for the money but for the love of Goa itself. This pool of advisers can be a healthy mix of various disciplines of people who have already achieved what is necessary for themselves and now wish to give back to Goa . There is no shortage of such talent for whom public service, not greed is the driving force. Although there is a far greater pool, if you take from the narrow confines of Goanet itself, the following people for a Lt Governors think tank come easily to mind. Rajan Parrikar, Jose Colaco, Floriano Lobo, Samir Heble, Vidyadhar Gadgil, Valmiki Faleiro, Pravin Sabnis, George Menezes, Nandkumar Kamat. These are among hundreds of others both inside and outside Goa with a strong connection to the land who could be persuaded to take a sabbatical to save Goa from the path of utter ruin it is currently taking. Being ruled from the Centre, Goa would be under a shining national spotlight and all opportunities for underhand manoeuvres would be minimized. Gone will be Alibaba and the 40 thieves. In would come accountability and good governance. I abhor the word never, but I can say with all truth that Goa unfortunately can never be ruled by a CM and cabinet of Goans in the democratic set up as it is today. Sadly, we need to nix all the effort that went into demanding separate statehood, admitting to ourselves that this doesn't work and revert to something that does. There is simply little alternative if Goa is to survive with some semblance of good governance and a stake in the future.
[Goanet] Sardinha justifies turning Goa into a brothel
Sardinha justifies turning Goa into a... Well...firstly rape, sex, brothel, pimps, seems to be the best words of this poster,... can we see some decent language on Goanet plese..but i guess we are expecting too much out here... Sardinha is the same person whom the fanatic brigade induced to bring down the congress government and that time they called him a martyr, sant, dev, hero...those days sardinha was described as the Ram who destroyed the Ravana... soon the saffronites as is their habbit stabbed sardinha in the backside... today as Sardinha has ressuructed his political career smartly as since he belongs to the minority community and since the saffronites cannot get a base in his Curtorim constituency he becomes a villian... I wish people had better thinking powers... Cedric da Costa Dubai
[Goanet] 'POLICE' 17ve Pavtti Moddganc Dhadd (raid) Ghalta
POLICE 17ve Pavtti Moddganv Dhadd (raid) Ghalta. Moddganv Gomant Vidya Niketan-chea hollant Comedian Agostinho-cho voznaddik tiatr POLICE 17ve pavtti mhachier dakhoupant ailo. Ani dor ek proyg (show) adinch-fuddench tiketti nasun tiatr pollennar niraxi zaun ghora portotat hea vixim POLICE tiatrache digdorspea thaim telefona velean vicharlem teddnam, tannem kitem sangchem? Tiketti mellonastanam lok niraxi zaun ghora portatat hem pollevn mhaka vaitt dista ani hanv rokhddoch dusro proyg vo fuddli tarik porgott kortam. Durea disa tikett counter-axim ailear House Full toktto dovorlolo asta. Ani oxem toren 17ve pavtti zalam POLICE tiatrant, don-tin pavtti koddelivelo uttonastanam pollevpa sarkelem kitem asa kay mhunn vicharlem teddnam tiatr pollenaranim kitem sangchem? Suru to xevott ek-ek bhag voznadik sonvadddanim (dialogues) boroila. Dor ek kollakar khandd marun bhumika uncha dorjechi korta. Songit mon bhuloita. Tiatrachem digdorsponn tak-tik zalam ani pottak mirio poddun tuje gall (pole) dukhosor hanspachem vadoll 3 horam umedichea varear koxim sortat tem somzupak ho tiatr porot ekdam pollevn dista. Kuwait-che Goykar tiatr mogeank voilo tiatr POLICE Hawally A/C Auditorium-ant Jun-ache 13ver, 2008 sanjeche 3:30 vaztam pollevpak melltolo. Nimnnea vellar niraxi nam zaunk tumchea avddichi boska vo zago mellunk, veginuch fone kor Limra Cargo, Salhiya Tower, Basement, Shop No 9 Tel. Tony 7643536, 9581491 & Chequinho 6364366 Save as> to download star_tip_hat_md_wht.gif!" src="http://eknp.com/clipart/ani/star_tip_hat_md_wht.gif";> Lapitt
Re: [Goanet] Dual Citizenship
Thank you Swastik for your reply. The information that you provided and the question that you asked Dr Miguel Reis on this forum will be interesting to all Goanetters. With regards, Roland. On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Swastik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Roland, > > This is an advocate law firm based in portugal, I had once upon a time > communicated to Dr Miguel Reis and wanted him to commit a time frame > and explain all the procedures about the various stages which > internally takes place after the requisite documents are being > submitted at CRC- Lisboa. > > Neither he could explain me anything nor committed any time frame. > Everyone in aware that submission of documents is not an issue, this > can be done directly at CRC or at portuguese consulate-GOA. > > The main issues are prompt follow-up, chasing the process, expediting > identifications & Verifications and getting the birth/marriage > transcription timely. > > We would all appreciate if Dr Miguel can clarify on the above issues > so that we all can be aware.
Re: [Goanet] info on international goan women hockey players
Thanks to Marshall and Reena. It hit me on the head. I knew her as Mendonca. Watched and reported on women's hockey a lot. Met her at Pune at the Dastur Meher Road when I would go to see Minoo Golakhari, the coach of the Maharashtra hockey team. Eliza makes it six Goans in the Moscow Olympics, where women's hockey was introduced for the first time. This beats the record held by Goan men, five of them in the 1948 London Olympics. As for the Britto sisters, I think they were Anglo-Indians. Otillia Mascarenhas also of Pune was a formidable back and could hit like a man. They said that she was the R.S. Gentle of women's hockey. She went to Germany I think to pursue studies in sports medicine, ultimately earning her degree. Eugene
Re: [Goanet] Dual Citizenship
Hi Roland I know for sure that the address of this 'law firm' is located near Lisbon's (very large) prison, in Rua Marquesa de Fronteira. We were visiting relatives in a nearby apartment, arriving from Goa for 8 months, we stayed in this street / rua in 1958 (me aged 8 years, with my mother, my brother aged 4 years) and my father, Casimiro Monteiro (nuf said about him). I doubt this email is a scam, but dont take my word for it, its probably a notary / solicitors / law firm seeking extra work. A cheap way of advertising & getting the business they are in, to all Goans, they must have bought addresses from specialist firms who collect them and sell them onto interested parties. If anyone is interested, I would recommend everyone ask them questions about their validity & get it confirmed by the Law Society (or similar, in Portugual) before embarking on anything where money might exchange hands, or may be compulsory, or you enter into anything legally binding. At least if there are some Goans reading this who might be eligible, this may be an opportunity for them to take up this offer, sounds like they know their stuff anyway. My brother was born in Goa 1st November 1954, he does not have a birth certificate (never had, we wondered if he was actually registered at all (?), I wonder if he can apply for a search for a birth certificate? Anyone help my brother with this? His name was Fernando (renamed David by mother when we arrived back in the UK in Dec 1961) Roso Monteiro John Monteiro - Roland Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ' Could any Goanetter please make sense of this email specifically addressed to me alone. I have never expressed an interest in applying for Portuguese nationality either on this forum or in private. Is this an unsolicited communication from a genuine Portuguese law firm or just another internet scam. Thanks, Roland. -- MIGUEL REIS & ASSOCIADOS - SOCIEDADE DE ADVOGADOS (PORTUGAL) Rua Marquês de Fronteira, 76 - 5º, 1070-299 Lisboa - Portugal Tel: (+351) 21 385 21 38 Fax: (+351) 21 386 36 63 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Av. D. João IV, 1- R/c, 2070-299 Montijo - Portugal Tel. (+351) 21 231 40 18 - Fax: (+351) 21 231 40 18 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Regards John Monteiro
[Goanet] Beware the Goan media! Breaking Nooj
Frederick Noronha wrote: Goa CM Manohar Parrikar has charmed former pro-Maoist student activists who are now mediapersons, thrown sops to the journalistic community, accomodated editors on various official bodies, and in a word placed a lid on the key quarters capable of fuelling dissent or raise critical questions. Comment: If there is one thing that one can give the BJP credit for, (though dubious) it is for managing the media. The RSS / BJP has always been media savvy. LK Advani, being a former journalist knows the reach and utility of the media. As the I & B Minister during the brief Janata govt. while other ministers were busy fighting over the fish and loaves of office, he silently went about stuffing the PTI, AIR, Doordarshan and other agencies with RSS sympathisers, members or bootlickers. This enabled him to control the news, suppress unfavourable news and propagate the hindutva programmes and ideology. He repeated this performance as Home Minister. Today although, not in power, the RSS / BJP have lots of sympathisers within the govt who frustrate and obfuscate the policies and programmes of the govt. During the BJP rule a number of journalists like Balbir Punj, Dinanath Mishra, Praful Goradia, Chandan Mitra were elected / nominated to the Rajya Sabha and freebees thrown at them.The BJP is versatile in using the electronic media to their advantage. Notice how they use the internet, sms's, TV to communicate their message. In contrast, the Congress and the communist parties are still living in the past. Marshall Mendonza
[Goanet] Support to Colva Civic and Consumer Forum
Support to Colva Civic and Consumer Forum Having taken cognizance of yeoman services being rendered and very pertinent movement started by Colva Civic and Consumer Forum the Manaing Committee of COLVA UNITED CENTRE - KUWAIT has resolved to extend our solidarity and all round support to COLVA CIVIC AND CONSUMER FORUM. It is high time that Colvenkars from all over the world alongwith all Goans should rally and mobilise all their resources to control the unregulated and mashrooming housing units coming in Colva, to protect and save the basic necessities and interest of locals, to stop further degredation of ecology, improve the sanitation, starting of garbace system and preserve the pristine beauty of Colva. It may be also recalled that 3 years back at the Gram Sabha meeting 2 resolutions listed below moved by our president - Alexander Fernandes - and unanimously approved at the Gram Sabha still have not been implemented:- Resolution No.1 - to Start Garbage System collection and disposal. Resolution No.2 - To construct modern Market complex - since the present old Tinto - is filthy, inadequate and accident prone area. At the next Gram Sabha we request Colva Civic & Consumer Forum to follow up the above unimplemented resolutions alongwith their other demands and intensify their moves, in most democratic ways, until desired result is achieved. From our side we assure you all the tangible support in all your movements for better, cleaner and safer Colva. For Colva United Centre - Kuwait Alexander Fernandes - President, Jacob Fernandes, Vice President, Menino Ratus - General Secretary, Celine Vaz - Treasurer http://www.goa-world.com/goa/colva/ Goa's Pride - http://www.goa-world.com - Goeam khatir vavr korta to khoro Goemkar punn Konkani boroita ani uloita to niz Goemkar Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter is presented by Ulysses Menezes, www.goa-world.com and moderated by Gaspar Almeida (since 1994)
[Goanet] Enough is Enough
SEZ's, Mega-Projects etc are proven to be Anti-Goan. On SEZ's, even the Goa Government's SEZ Task Panel has come to the same conclusion. I believe more is at stake here i.e. Financially/Politically for the Dictatorial Central Government, their wealthy Non-Goan Industrialists lobby/political backers & their loyal Goan Political servants; who are disgustingly looting Goa. The Central Government seems confident that as they fooled Goans in 1961 by illegally occupying Goa without our approval, they can now get away with anything. Enough is Enough. It is High Time Goans go for a complete review of the annexation of Goa into India and DEMAND special status (like some other Indian States) to protect Goa's Unique Identity. We can't be intimidated by critics quoting the Indian Constitution, Goans were not party to framing of the Constitution then, so now we have a right to put in Goa's Unique Considerations. There is a limit to our Tolerance!! Arwin Mesquita, UAE. -- Please read my Blog: http://arwinmesquita.wordpress.com/category/goan-identity/page/3/ -- Please read my Blog: http://arwinmesquita.wordpress.com/category/goan-identity/page/3/
[Goanet] Chandor ganv --- development plan
Some of the ideas for businesses mentioned are good. With India booming, there is scope for many businesses which will nurture the nature also. Horticulture, floriculture are some of them. Lots of companies have spawned all over India some of them selling fruit juices such as packed coconut water, even "sol" curry. There is obviously going to be a revival of organic foods. Modern techniques can be used to distribute such produce all over India, and even abroad. Obviously we need a good network of roads and railways. One more thing --- I find that fenny is not available in Bangalore. I wonder why. Wonder if there is an opportunity there, because fenny can have huge demand out here. So, also cashew nuts. The question is: why is the government not funding entreprenuers in this area, but rather sucking up to the Rahejas, and the DLFs ? regards, Samir
[Goanet] Churchill's new chor project- 550 crores
Niz Goemkarancho avaz Bhavnno and Bhoinnino Cost of benulim,telaulim ,assolna loot of public paisa /poiso Ami niz goenkar melle konkan railway,mopa now Bridge - Churchill fottkiro ani taje chomche
[Goanet] Congratulations....
to Goanet on the occasion of Goa-Net-Digest # 666! The number of the Apocalypse! Needless to say, I could not let this one pass by (as do numerous others, I admit). It was moderately interesting! Cheers from grey but hot Amsterdam, patrizio and the Dinosaurs!
Re: [Goanet] goan hockey players -philomena
Thanks Venatius. I remember her. I think she was second to Margaret Toscano. So Moscow Olympics had had five Goans -- Lorraine, Margaret, Fiona, Selma and Philomena. I am not sure if Eliza Nelson was a Goan. However, so Goan girls equalled the record of five Goan men in the 1948 Olympics. Eugene
Goenkara �Tum Ragar Zainaka - a Tiatr by Roseferns
A Goan tiatr on Scarlett Keeling's memory Scarlett Keeling's murder is still shrouds in mystery. Her mother is determined to expose the underbelly of Goan tourism. Meanwhile, famous Goan tiatrist, Roseferns, releases a play called Goenkara ÂTum Ragar Zainaka in her memory.. CJ: Armstrong Vaz THE MURDER case of the British teenager, Scarlett Keeling in Goa did send the world media into frenzy for covering the mysterious death and subsequent cover-up in detail. Almost three-and-half months later, the interwoven facts and mysteries of her death, inspired famous Goan tiatrist, Roseferns, to release a play called Goenkara ÂTum Ragar Zainaka (Goan  You do not get angry) in her memory on June 1. The tiatr (a popular form of folk-drama for Goans) story is based on Keeling, the 15-year-old British girl whose half-naked body was found at the Anjuna beach in February this year. The protagonistÂs role in the tiatr is played by Antonette de Maina. The play has many people, dancing to the trance music scenes. It explores the supposed plot on her immediate life before her murder. It shows the issues of drug overdose, physical intimacy with two men; her losing of consciousness, and her body, being dumped into the sea and attempts, made to treat the case as drowning or suicide etc. The director, also known as ÂKing of CenturiesÂ, for his roles in popular hits, which have crossed the 100 mark on numerous occasions in the past, has used the typical Goa beach shack scenes as backdrop to his tiatr. Roseferns family has been entertaining Goan audiences with his popular folk-plays for the last three decades. Incidentally, a Bollywood film, ÂRave PartyÂ, is to be produced by Prabhakar Shukla and set for release in October this year, if everything goes according to the plan of the director, with leading actress Katrina Kaif, likely to play the role of Keeling. It should be learnt that KeelingÂs body is yet be buried as her mother, Fiona Mackeown, has refused to conduct her funeral rites, after she discovered that her daughterÂs internal organs have been missing as the doctor conducting a third autopsy on her body, discovered the missing organs in England. In Goa, two autopsies were conducted, both of which were exclusively on the nature of death. Mackeown had alleged drug mafia links and also that, a ministerÂs son was also linked in hushing up her daughterÂs death, as a case of drowning. Allegations, which have been brushed aside by the state home minister, Ravi Naik, whose son, Roy Naik, has been accused of playing a key role in the mafia-drug nexus along the 105km Goa coastline. With allegations of political links to the death of the girl and the alleged cover attempt by Nerlon Albererque, the police-in-charge of Anjuna police station, and also giving up to the international media pressure, the Goa government had written to the Central Bureau of Investigations (CBI) to take over the case, which they have not done till date. The CBI, which has been bogged down by a huge number of cases, will make its case clear in the next couple of weeks when they will file their reply at the Goa bench of the Bombay High Court in Panaji, whether it will accept the request forwarded to it by the state government. The high court intervention came when the prime witness, Mike Masala, a British, against whom a look-out notice was issued by the police has not been able to leave the country even after giving his statement to the Goa police. The look-out notice has not been lifted as the CBI is yet to take over the case. Meanwhile, Mackeown and her lawyer, Vikram Vohra have been looking forward to help from the Scotland Yard. They are planning their next legal step. But, if the CBI refuses to take up the case, it will be a big defeat for her as she is hell bent on exposing the corrupt underbelly of the Goan tourism. - Forwarded by www.goa-world.com Goa's Pride - http://www.goa-world.com - Goeam khatir vavr korta to khoro Goemkar punn Konkani boroita ani uloita to niz Goemkar Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter is presented by Ulysses Menezes, www.goa-world.com and moderated by Gaspar Almeida (since 1994)
[Goanet] Centre refuses to denotify SEZs of Goa - now what?
Comment: I am not aware whether the various movements like Save Goa and GMAS have taken legal advice. I would think it is possible to join the case going on in the High Court by the SEZ allottees as an interested party and bring to the notice of the High Court all the irregularities committed by the government while notifying the SEZ's. I would not depend on the government defending its case sincerely. It is better to join now than later once the HC passes its order. Secondly, the battle has to be taken at a higher level. Environmentalists and spirited citizens from elsewhere should be co-opted like Bittu Sehgal, BEAG, M C Mehta, Julio Ribeiro. They have vast experience in fighting builder lobbies and vested interests. Thirdly there is a need to generate more publicity to the struggle. Keeping it local will not help in fighting the moneybags. Media like NDTV, CNN-IBN, Star, BBC, Aaj Tak etc. should be invited and shown the degradation that is going on. I expect the battle to be a long drawn one, with the moneybags holding the aces. Regards, Marshall Mendonza
Re: [Goanet] Open question to Mathany Saldanha
Cedrico, Believe you me. You are opening a can of worms of the worst kind. You want to do that?? floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: "cedrico dacosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:08 AM Subject: [Goanet] Open question to Mathany Saldanha Open question to Mathany Saldanha 1. has the mehta strips factory at cortalim turned to producing non-poluting materials? till date several villagers from Loutoulim, verna, cortalim and vasco who were bullied by Mathany to go to the forefront of the anti-mehta strips agitation are suffering haressment and have to go to the courts to attend to the cases against them...their main instigator --who we know led the agitation to ressurect a sad failing political career -- ditched them the day his personal political ambitions were achieved...worst still he chose to tie the knot with the saffron brigade... the anti-mehta strips agitators were sent to the front to face lathis and persecution by the police while in the dark of the night their leader did a turn around... can Goans trust such sad politicias who have no ethics whatsoever? see what happened ... he didnt last another election... regards Cedric da Costa UAE
Re: [Goanet] One happy familiy again!
No Miguel, you don't need to make personal comments. We can read your mind. I have read the GT report. But I don't detect any warmth, neither in that report, nor on the charming/smiling face - heart of the GBA Convenor. I, along with the entire Goa want to believe Dr. Oscar Rebello that GBA is really united. Hope he really means what he has said. Contrary to what Dr. Oscar Rebello has said in his brief report (GT), I strongly believe that: Goa will be united if Goans unite, leaving aside their personal agendas and agendas of their media/builder cronies and politician friends. floriano goasuraj - Original Message - From: "Miguel Braganza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: [Goanet] One happy familiy again! Dears, Those who were genuinely worried about Goa and interested in the wellbeing of the GBA, please read GT page 1 today, 03 June,2008. " The Goa Bachao Abhiyan [GBA] is solidly united and will continue to remain so as long as Goa is united" Dr. Oscar Rebello, Convener GBA. This is the text of the Press report. In the "plug" of the report the word "will" is missing, perhaps inadvertently . even in a cut-n-paste job. There is an Op-Ed column of Mario Cabral e Sa on page A8 of the same GT, giving the senior journalist's take on the issues that apparently dogged the GBA recently. The Herald page 6 has the Op-Ed by the former Editor of GT , Sujay Gupta, who is back in Goa as a Consultant Ediitor on the need for unity in the CSO for Goa's sake. I am in the process of obtaining its soft copy and putting it on the net. My former Editor [he introduced my column in the GT although we met for the first time only after he left the GT a year later!] and I share many similar views. I met him recently in Moira, where Venita Coelho [of "Jassi Jaise Koi Nahin" fame] brought various forums together one evening under one umbrella ... before the rains even started! ;-) All is well that proceeds well. No personal comment from me. All you folks are smarter than you think! Mog asundi. Miguel --
Re: [Goanet] Is Bandodkar "squarely responsible" for the "bhaille" problem that Rajan is hollering about?
2008/6/1 Rajan P. Parrikar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [1] This Sunday's edition of Herald carries Matanhy's excellent article entitled "Is this Development?" [2] To enlighten all except a doddering docent from Bahamas who already knew all this ...Thanks to him, we now know that Goa's problems can be traced to an event for which Bandodkar was squarely responsible. == Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I submit to you that the most brilliant NRI engineer, photographer and recognized expert on Indian Classical music is a person I admire. Normally, doctors and engineers are mere nerds; Not Rajan Parrikar. He is quite extreme in his brilliance. I agree with a significant amount of his views esp wrt Conservation, Gradual and Structured development and giving preferential opportunities for qualified sons of the soil. As a well read and erudite intellectual that I believe Rajan is, his apparent denial of the significant and irreversible damage that Bandodkar and his MGP crew did to Goa, is just that: DENIAL. Rajan says in June 2008 that the Goa Press cannot be trusted (my paraphrase). I ask: When could it be trusted Oh Learned One? During the time of Bandodkar or was it during the regime of Manohar Parrikar? Rajan Parrikar has been going on (rightly) about the Slumification of Goa by the Migrant labour - and yet finds it difficult to honestly review the role played by the Bandodkar MGP is this very process. I ask - Rajan Parrikar - and he may choose to duck this one:but here goes 1: WHO sold Goan land at Sancoale (for a pittance) so that a AgroChemical plant could spew crapola in Goan air? 2: During whose regime, and as a result of WHOSE actions were the Dharavi ll (aks Zuarinagar) slums built? 3: WHO tried to merge Goa into Maharashtra? 4: Under WHOSE regime were "bhaille" deputationists brought in to LORD over qualified Goans in crucial areas? 5: Under WHOSE regime were newspaper advertisements for Govt Jobs in Goa placed in Cochin and Bombay before they were placed in Goa? 6: Under WHOSE regime did the major fracture occur between Goan Hindus and Catholics? 7: WHO had the "battle" with Mr. Gadkari of the Dainik Gomantak WHY? Please note that I have not mentioned the Mundcar Act which should be credited to a relative of Shri 10%. It is worth remembering however that there are two related questions: WHY were the mines excluded from the Mundcar Act? and WHAT role has the Mundcar Act played in the SALE of Goa and what Rajan calls Rape of Goa? I will read Matanhy's article after someone tells me why my META STRIPS hero suddenly lost his vocal cords when a Goa MLA was manhandled by BJP MLAs and the Speaker at the time allegedly organised some nuevo calligraphy. Would I be correct in assuming that Rajan Parrikar emotionally and/or otherwise - supported the Chap who helped the development of Dharavi II, the engineer of Mundcar I and the string-master of the MLA physical hijack? Perhaps .Perhaps not but surely we have the opportunity of hearing from Rajan Parrikar. good wishes jc
[Goanet] Goa's own Orwellian village State
Hardly had I finished reading about the "rounding-up of male migrant workers" by self-appointed custodians of the law in Colva, an incident that didn't elicit condemnation from Goans in Goa, hardly had I stopped wringing my hands while reading Wendell's model village and Hema Sardesai's calls for Special Status and dismissed it as the ravings of a deluded designer and singer, I am now shaking with disbelief reading "Chandor's Development Plan". This is exactly the sort of inverted Orwellian nightmare I have been ranting against for the past two weeks. For those who missed it, here is the link: http://www.geocities.com/chandorvillage/gandhigiri.htm The Plan itself reads like a personal mission statement and not a Development Plan as such, but that's not what is scary about it. The scary parts begin with sentences such as these: -- "My idea of village swaraj is that it is a complete republic, independent of its neighbours for its wants" "Thus every village’s first concern will be to grow its own food crops and cotton for its cloth" "this panchayat will be the legislature, judiciary and executive combined to operate for its year of office" "There will be a compulsory service of village guards who will be selected by rotation from the register maintained by the village." "For the law governing every villager is that he will suffer death in the defence of his and his village’s honour" --- This is what we have to offer as Development Plans? That each village will be a republic, run by a Panchayat, guarded by guards appointed by the village and each villager will suffer death in the defense of his village's honour. For Christ's sake even remote villages in the jungles of Africa have better vision for their future. Panchayats have already proven to be corrupt beyond redemption in Goa, and we are now to entrust them with legislative, judiciary and executive powers? Who will chose these "village guards", what will they be protecting the villages from?, who will they be accountable to? Who is going to be judge, jury and executioner in this "model village" of spinning wheels and cotton cloth weaving? This is exactly the reason why the planning of Goa cannot be left to individual village panchayats and gram sabhas. Am I the only one who is extremely queasy at the moment? selma
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 3, Issue 662
Hi Eugene, It's Selma D'Silva of Dabul not D'Cunha. Fausto Eugene wrote: I wanted to cross-check on some Goan players who represented India. I knew all the names of Goans till 1980, the time women's hockey was introduced in the Olympics, but have forgotten them. Yes, Margaret Toscano, of the famous Tosa's restaurant in Mumbai, was the goalkeeper. Selma D'Cunha from Dabul and Fiona Albuquerque were in the team. I am not sure if Eliza Nelson was a Goan. I know she was from Pune. The best bet is to contact the All-India Women's Hockey Association. There were a few Goa-based Goans who played for India. Eugene
[Goanet] Any info on International Women Hockey Players of Goan
Eugene Correia wrote: I am not sure if Eliza Nelson was a Goan. I know she was from Pune. Comment: Eliza Nelson nee Mendonca is indeed a Goan from Pune. She captained the Indian hockey team and if I remember correctly, India won the Asian Games gold medal under her stewardship. She received the Arjuna Award for outstanding contribution to sports. The Britto sisters, Elvira and Rita too donned Indian colours. But I believe they were Mangaloreans as both represented Mysore in the nationals. Regards, Marshall Mendonza
Re: [Goanet] Any info on International Women Hockey Players of Goan
Eugene, Eliza Nelson was very much Goan. She lived on Dastur Meher Road in Poona. She used to be Eliza Mendonca. Her family has been known to mine since the fifties, when my dad first came to Poona as a student. Reena Eugene Correia wrote: > I wanted to cross-check on some Goan players who > represented India. I knew all the names of Goans till > 1980, the time women's hockey was introduced in the > Olympics, but have forgotten them. > Yes, Margaret Toscano, of the famous Tosa's restaurant > in Mumbai, was the goalkeeper. Selma D'Cunha from > Dabul and Fiona Albuquerque were in the team. > I am not sure if Eliza Nelson was a Goan. I know she > was from Pune. > The best bet is to contact the All-India Women's > Hockey Association. There were a few Goa-based Goans > who played for India. > > Eugene > >
[Goanet] Comedian Agostinho's tiatr "Police" to be staged in Bahrain
Comedian Agostinho's tiatr "Police" to be staged in Bahrain The Folk Theatre in association with Bahrain Goans and FFR Production will present a Konkani drama on 20th June at the Baan Saeng Thai Auditorium, Adeliya, Bahrain, starting at 5 p.m. A group of 14 konkani stage artistes, who will be on a Gulf tour will perform under the direction of Goas topmost Comedian Agostinho Temodu in his drama titled Police. Comedian Agostinho, has to his credit a number of konkani dramas and video films.He has also acted in several dramas and video films of other directors. The present show Police has been running to packed houses all over Goa and the troupe will arrive in Bahrain after performing in Dubai on 12th June 2008 and in Kuwait on 13th June 2008. Comedian Agostinho has always projected interesting and contemporary plots in his plays. His title this time is surely a winning one and good enough to arouse curiosity. With Selvy, the comedian partner of Agostinho in the troupe, the audience is going to see the humour at its best in this drama. The other popular names in the troupe are Samuel, Osvi, Salu, Mathew, Joaquim, Benny, Roma and Jessica. The Goa Kala Academy award winners Norman Cardoso and Agnelo Dias are accompanying the troupe to render music for the show. Tickets priced at BD:5/= and BD: 4/= (Reserved) and BD: 3/= (free seating) are now available at "World Greetings" and "Mangalore Store", Manama or contact the organisers on Tel: 39672776 and 39251103. GR Crasto/Bahrain afor Goa-World.com http://www.goa-world.com/goa/tiatr/ Goa's Pride - http://www.goa-world.com - Goeam khatir vavr korta to khoro Goemkar punn Konkani boroita ani uloita to niz Goemkar Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter is presented by Ulysses Menezes, www.goa-world.com and moderated by Gaspar Almeida (since 1994)
[Goanet] Infrastructure development --- to what end?
>And this ultimately is the crux of the matter. Whether it be roads, bridges, >dams, schools or nuclear deals, someone, somewhere in India can be convinced >that it is not in their best interests. >If we must talk about infrastructure developments that turned out to be >>"white elephants", let's also talk about an India which for a good 60 >years >languished under the yoke of socialism without proper roads in its >metros let >alone the remote villages of its hinterlands. If we must talk >about only an >"elite and middle-class" that has benefited, then let's also >talk about a >virtually, non-existent middle-class until the dawn of >liberalization. Let's >talk about the fact that today nearly 400 million >people have come under the >ambit of middle class status. That is the >entire population of the US and >then some, and about five times the >population of the UK. Imagine a country >like India that started last in >this race at the beginning of the last >century is now punting at the head. >Could all this be achieved through >superfluous development? >No dear Goans, please don't embrace this mantra of development having no >end. >Not unless you want to be serving mocktails to tourists, washing dishes on >cruise ships or working in the Gulf for the rest of your lives. >selma If middle class india has come up, it is because of education and hard work first. Today, middle class Indians become engineers, doctors, take management degrees and work hard. What does the Goa govt. do in order that Goans can compete with the rest of Indians? Simple things such as deploying a broadband network has become a scam. In the name of anything, Goa govt. sells land at cheap rates. If you go and see the caliber of these various secretaries of Goa Govt., they have no clue of various fields of industry and how one can promote them. All they want is to show a fig leaf of development, and make themselves rich. It is precisely because of this that Goans are opposing this so called development. What do mega-housing projects have to do with Goans' development? I have mentioned this before and I will mention it again --- there are lots of industries where there is desperate need of skilled human resources which are not available. Govt. does not do anything about this. People can be trained. But in the name of training, what the govt. will do is pocket most of the money and nothing will come out. Are any projects spawned by the Goa Govt. reviewed, measured for their efficacy? Are experts in the field consulted before spawning a project? regards, Samir
