Re: [Goanet] Fw: Rosary in Konkani and Ladainha - Toronto

[Sebastian Borges]

It appears that JC has confused the meaning of my statement "Ladainha which is 
familiar to Goan Catholics" with that of the Portuguese word "ladainha" per 
se.  Therefore, in order to avoid further confusion, let me define some terms, 
FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION.  This stipulation, I feel, is necessary to 
obviate these definitions being generalized, as is sought to be done by vested 
interests wrt the definition of the word 'Konkani' in the Official Language Act.
1. littany = the Litany of Our Lady which in Latin begins with "Kyrie eleison" 
and ends with "Agnus Dei.. miserere nobis"  
2. rosary = five decades of the Rosary interspersed with the five mysteries 
relevant for the day.
3. 'ters' = the whole prayer consisting of the Sotmanitam (Credo), the rosary, 
Xoronn-yetam and the litany (in Latin or Konkani) in that order and ending with 
"rozar".
4. 'ladainha' = the entire rite IN SONG beginning with the litany (in Latin), 
Salve Rainha (in Portuguese), Virgem Mae de Deus (in Portuguese), Hymns to 
Saints etc. (in Konkani / Portuguese / Latin) and ending with "rozar".  This is 
also the meaning, I believe, in which the word has been used thus far in this 
thread.

Some prayers are common to both ters and ladainha.  But there are important 
differences:
(a) The 'ters' is largely RECITED whereas the 'ladainha', except for the final 
"rozar", is SUNG.
(b) Credo or Sotmanitam, with which 'ters' begins, is not found anywhere in 
'ladainha'.
(c) 'Virgem Mae de Deus' and the Hymns are found in the 'ladainha' but not in 
'ters'.
(d) Xoronn-yetam is the Konkani translation of the Portuguese 'Salve Rainha'.  
But its position wrt the litany differs: in 'ters' it precedes litany whereas 
in 'ladainha', 'Salve Rainha' follows the litany.

All the prayers constituting the 'ladainha' were certainly available as 
separate entities, but my contention is that their arrangement in a unique 
FORMAT called 'ladainha' was done in Goa.  Just because all the constituent 
parts were available in - and brought from - Portugal, we cannot claim that the 
final product was also imported from there.  When all the ingredients of a dish 
are purchased from the market, do we do say that the dish itself was brought 
from the market?  
JC has sent some links.  I could open the first one which only gives the 
history of the litany and the explanation of some selected terms.  This in no 
way contradicts my statement.  Being in a cybercafe, I could not open the 
youtube links.  But do they contain the entire 'ladainha' format as sung in 
Goa?  To simplify the matter, I would request JC to inform us whether the 
entire 'ladainha' format, as SUNG in Goa existed in Portugal or elsewhere at 
least a couple of centuries ago.  If yes, then we can be certain that it was 
brought to Goa by the Portuguese.  Else, I shall have to stick to my original 
statement, "it would be a fallacy 
to say that Ladainha which is familiar to Goan Catholics was brought
by the Portuguese.  They could not have brought it because it was not
available anywhere; it is entirely home-cooked using ingredients that
were at hand!"

Sincerely,
Sebastian Borges


On Sun, 28 Mar 2010  "J. Colaco  < jc>"  wrote:


That brings me to this point which I read a couple of minutes ago:

Sebastian Borges  wrote: "it would be a fallacy
to say that Ladainha which is familiar to Goan Catholics was brought
by the Portuguese.  They could not have brought it because it was not
available anywhere; it is entirely home-cooked using ingredients that
were at hand!"

Trust the following might be useful. It is posted without comment or
verification.

Sincerely

jc
Amanha = Time to refocus on other matters. Enough of zuzz on GN for March
.

The Origin of the Ladainha (Origem das ladainhas)
http://www.npdbrasil.com.br/religiao/rel_meditar_012.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtp7oldyDpU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM4VwjTOp5E&feature=related

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Re: [Goanet] Memorial Concert @ Porvorim, Goa

[rcabral]

Hi Milind,
Sorry I could not make it for the concert though I had decided to be there 
especially because I wanted to meet you just to revive some old memories if you 
still remember me and since I also knew your late father. But unfortunately I 
could not make it. Anyhow I hope it was a grand success.
All the best to you in all your future ventures.
Richard Cabral
 milind raikar  wrote: 
> Thank you pls do come for the same at least try to attend my concert.
> 
> Yours Musically,
> Milind Raikar
> Mob: 9892582671
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 26/3/10, Goanet A-C-E!  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Goanet A-C-E! 
> Subject: Memorial Concert @ Porvorim, Goa
> To: goa...@goanet.org
> Date: Friday, 26 March, 2010, 8:46 AM
> 
> 
> A Memorial Concert is being organised in honour of Late Shri Atchut Raikar, 
> father of noted violinist, Milind Raikar.
> 
> Date: March 28, 2010
> 
> Location: Shri Vetal Temple, Old Porvorim Market, Porvorim, Goa
> 
> Schedule:
> 10:00am - Vocal recital by Pratima Joshi
> 11:00am - Aam Harmonium Solo
> 12 noon - Vocal recital by Chandrakant Vernekar
> 
> Lunch
> 
> 3:30pm - Natya Sangit by Three Local Artists of Goa
> 5:00pm - Shri Parmeshwar Hegde (vocalist) performs with Milind Raikar
> 6:30pm - Performance by Pt Satish Vyas Santoor
> 
> All are welcome.
> 
> 
> Goanet A-C-E!
> Arts ~ Culture ~ Entertainment
> 
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[Goanet] Know What’s in Your Food - iVillage

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Twelve Rules for Eating Right by Michael Pollan (with 14 photos)
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Re: [Goanet] BrieFNcounters: Yours truly, Imelda...

[Manuel Caldeira]

Dear  Frederick,

Congratulation for excelent work you are doing about Goa and Goans.
I appreciate in you "the continuous improvement process" in what ever 
you are doing.


Most of Goans evjoy the negative aspect (like the Portugueses) it is a 
mental disorder and is against prgress.


All the best
Manuel



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> Imelda Tavora... a (prominent) voice from Goa's airwaves (of the
> yesteryears)

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[Goanet] Ek Kovita: DEVA

[lino dourado]

    DEVA
 
Kuskem ontorskon nitoll zavnk
   Deva,
Mhaka dusreachi tust korunk xikoi
 
Peleak nidd’duki nodren poletam zalear
   Deva, 
Tanche sovem mogan jiyeunk vaddoi
 
Dusreanchem kiskut kaddche bodla
  Deva,
Mhojea dolleantlem lakudd  vattoi
 
Mhojem panvoll chuklem zalear
 Deva,
Mhaka nitt margachi vatt dakhoi.
 
Hanv kallokant sandlom zalear,
    Deva,
Mhaka uzvaddachi pontti pettoi
 
Dusreanche adarak pavunk
   Deva,
Borea Samarithanachem jivit sozoi
 
Mhojea patkanchi chuk ollkunk
   Deva,
Borem asa tench mhaka xikoi
 
Lino B. Dourado
(Utodd'dekar)

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[Goanet] Contacto Goa on tuesday, 30th March

[nalini souza]

For those who live in Goa, please note that there is a repetition of the 
program at 7:45pm of tuesday, 30th March.


Time is not reliable. Please switch on TV 15min earlier.


Contacto Goa this Tuesday, 30th  March 2010

The 49th episode will be broadcast on:
RTP international - INDIA, PORTUGAL and other places:

Tuesday, 30th March 2010
INDIA  - 2:15pm and 7:45pm
PORTUGAL - 08:45am and 2:15pm

Wednesday, 31st March 2010

INDIA :07:30am
PORTUGAL  02:00am

Timetable for other countries will be available on-line: www.rtp.pt
Goans have music running in their veins. Almost every Goan knows how to 
play a musical instrument or know how to sing.

Find out in our next episode, what musical instrument is favored by Goans.

Note: Please note that the above timings are based on information 
available on the RTP web site at the time of sending out this release. 
We suggest that viewers reconfirm exact timings by checking the website 
www.rtp.pt on the actual day of broadcast or switch on TV earlier.


This episode was directed and presented by Nalini Elvino de Sousa, 
edited by Prasheela Achrekar, photographed by Jude Fernandes, Nuno 
Oliveira, Sérgio Campos and Francisco Veres Machado and has the 
collaboration of Rohit Phalgaonkar.


Further episodes of the third series of Contacto Goa will continue to be 
broadcast every 15 days, on Tuesdays at the same time, as given above.


The Contacto team can be contacted by e-mail at contacto...@yahoo.co.in 
or nalini_portu...@yahoo.com

Your comments are always welcome.

If you want to watch any of the previous episodes of CONTACTO GOA you 
can find them on the webpage of RTP at :

http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/index.php?tvprog=20155

[Goanet] Fwd: ggrm press release

[Ganv Ghor]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Orlimgaum Rakonnmanch 
Date: Mar 27, 2010 4:56 PM
Subject: ggrm press release
To: ganvg...@gmail.com

IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE.


*GGRM has condemned the repeated attempts by the Chief Minister to hoodwink
the public about the Regional Plan through the medium of various
organizations. GGRM has pointed out that the Government of Goa deserves
nothing short of an ultimatum to put a planning process in place and to give
the process a legitimacy through a legal framework, rather than empty verbal
assurances to people.
*

*GGRM has pointed out that the Government is proceeding apace with projects
that defy all laws and legal norms and is guilty of gross omissions in
translating people’s aspirations into law, as a result of which scarce water
supply, filling of ponds ,and low lying areas, disregard for existing roads
and bridges, while proposing newer and bigger ones that trample on people’s
livelihoods, bad and erratic power supply are the order of the day.
*

*GGRM has repeatedly pointed out that the policy document of the Regional
Plan 2021  has itself acknowledged that as of now, the entire Regional Plan
process is proceeding outside of the space of law, thus leaving scope to act
arbitrarily. GGRM has stated that the Government of the day has not taken
any initiative to revamp/amend the Town and Country Planning Act and the Goa
Panchayat Raj Act, the Municipality Act, the Corporation of the City of
Panaji Act, and other related legislation, in keeping with the right to life
and livelihood enshrined in the Constitution and the 73rd and
74thamendments to the Constitution and in keeping with principles of
fair
hearing and natural justice. GGRM has also pointed out that  neither have
the amendments to sections 16 and 16 A of the Town and Country Plannning
Act, the amendments to the Goa Public Health Act permitting health estates,
and the various laws permitting special economic zones in different garbs,
been repealed. GGRM has pointed out that in these circumstances, any
assurances from the Chief Minister at any level can only be empty words
meant to continue putting wool in the eyes of the people in Goa. GGRM has
pointed out that this is reminiscent of similar policies followed by the
present Governments as well as successive Governments in the past, where
assurances were made that actions would not be undertaken under the
oppressive laws, only to quietly retract on its word later.
*

*Further, the GGRM has also stated that the interim measure proposed by it,
pending the adoption of the Regional Plan 2021, of a total and immediate
freeze on the construction of structures in villages, not including
individual houses built for personal occupation, and so also the gram sabha
resolutions regarding VP 3 status and non-construction in eco-sensitive
zone-I have also fallen on deaf ears.
*

*GGRM calls on all people in Goa not to be hoodwinked by the assurances, to
remain ever vigilant and to take all steps necessary at every level to rein
in true democracy and self-determination as a people. *
**
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[Goanet] About Rosary (Teors) and Litany (Ladainha) of our time

[JoeGoaUk]

Please find here the popular Ladin or ladainh or Litany both in Latin and 
Kokani.
Also, the popular Saints Orasanvam such as St. Sebastiao (5), Sta Cruz (3), 
Sam Francis (2) and Sant Anton available in MS word format. 
Pl refer the link in the end/blog
http://joegoauk-pointofview.blogspot.com/

About Rosary (Teors) and Litany (Ladainha) of our time
Gone are the days where we used to pray together as a family in front 
of our ‘olotori’ (Altar). 
We now have our own ‘oltori’ in each of our room that’s TV
 
No matter where we were, as soon as we heard the church bell at dawn, 
we had to return home and we join together to say the Angelus or Aimori.
Even if we were at a function or a tiatr near the church, the program would 
stop immediately on hearing the church bell, the Parish Priest would then come 
on to the stage to say the Angelus or Aimori with audience (standing).
Aimorie usually less than 5 minutes duration.
 
At home,  around 8pm or before dinner, our Teors or Rosary starts..
It started with ‘Sotmantam’ (I believe) (Kneel Down)
 
There were 15 ‘misters’ of Teors (usually sitting after first khonn)
5 of ‘Sontosache’  - Monday and Thursday + Sunday  during Advent
e.g. 1st: Bodvea Gablielan ankvar Moriek Khobor dili Devacho put
Tiche kuxin etolo and Deu Esprit Santachem kurpen ti gorbet zatoli
5 of ‘Dukhiche’ – Tueday and Friday + Sunday during Lent
e.g. Poilo Mister: Suam Jezu Krist, Jetsemichea molleant orsanv
kortana rogot umelo amchea patkam passun
5 of ‘Horkache’ – Wednesday and Saturday + Sunday from Easter onwards
e.g. Poilo:  Suam Jezu Krist apleach Podven tisrea disak meleleantlo 
jivont zalo.
 
However, when saying ‘Ruzai’ (15 khonnacho teors) all 15 mister can 
be said.
(Ruzai usually on 'Alma Dis' (All Souls Day) and when 'Our Lady 
(Milagros Saibinn) visits our home' 3 to 4 times a year.
 
A typical Rosary of 5 ‘Khonn’ has
5 Amche Bapa (and 5 Ani Amcho Dispotto..)
50 Noman Morie (and 50 Santan Morie, 150  in case of Ruzai)
5 Onod Bapak (and 5 Zoso Adim..)
 
At the end of each khonn i.e. 1 AB 10 NM & 1 OB, we all said..
O MHUJEA JEZUS BHOGOS/ NIVAR  AMKAM EMKOMDDANTLEA
UJEANTLIM, SOGLEA OTMEANT SORGAR VHOR ODHIK KORUN 
CHODD GOROZ ASLOLEANK
At this time we often sang a short hymn usually a chorus such as

AVE,  AVE AVE MARIA (2)
Or
LAUDATE, LAUDATE, LAUDATE DOMINUM (2)
Or
SORGAR, SORGAR MHOJE MAIM THAIN VETOLOM (2) etc
 
at the end of the 5 khonn or the Rosary.. (Kneel Down)
We said (unsung) Litany or Ladin in Latin
Kyrie Eleison etc
Ora Pro Nobis etc
 
Followed by ‘Soronaetan tuka Rannie..’
 
One: Bhou Povite Ruzaiche Rannie, amche pasun mag
All: Kristacheo bhasaunnio amkam favo zauncheak
 
Then come Teors Jezu Kallzacho (Sitting)
5 khonn
One: Eh voronntache kallza Jezuchea (I know I am wrong at the second word)
All: Kor mhojem Kalliz tujea sarkem
 
One: Duloba Kallza Jesuchea x 10  (Total 10x5)
All: Zaum tum Amcho Mog
 
One: Duloba kallza ankvar Moriechea
All: Vinonti kor amche passun
 
Followed by our regular prayers for the family, dead, Saints etc
Usually consist of AB/NM and OB
 
In the end, we usually sung a hymn in full.
or during the lent or korezm  we sang
Senhor Deus, Misericordia (3)
 
Whole teors would take about an hour.
 
(During the hour, we  sometimes dozed (Jemeta ou Ghantt Marta)  
and often yawned including the elders)



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[Goanet] Last Lecture – monday muse (29Mar ’10)

[Pravin Sabnis]

MONDAY MUSE (29 March 2010)

LAST LECTURE

The Carnegie Mellon University had an academic tradition where top academics 
were invited to deliver a hypothetical ‘last lecture’.  The speaker had to 
share the pick of his wisdom with the world as if it was his last chance! 
However in 2007, when Randy Pausch stood up to speak, it was no hypothetical 
situation as he was actually facing death! 

A month before the lecture, Randy’s pancreatic cancer, after a year of surgery 
and chemotherapy, was confirmed to be terminal.  However, in his ‘last 
lecture’, Randy shrugged off pity. He didn’t speak about death; he spoke about 
life and of living a more fulfilling life, by simply achieving childhood 
dreams. He offered insights from his childhood and important lessons he wanted 
his kids to learn. He reiterated the need to enjoy everything we do and to live 
life to its fullest before it ends.

On 25 July 2008, Randy succumbed to pancreatic cancer, but his book based on 
his last lecture continues to inspire. He said that he would rather have cancer 
than be hit by a bus. After all, if he died suddenly, he wouldn't have had the 
time to spend as much possible time with his family and getting their life 
ready for his death and beyond. Knowing that he was going to die resulted in 
enhancing his remaining life. 
 
To be better at living the life that we really want to live, we must put 
together our ‘last lecture’... our thoughts if we knew we had few days to live. 
We need to reconnect to our childhood dreams that lie hidden in the maze of 
complexities that are created by our desperate dash towards materialistic 
goals. When we envision our ‘last lecture’ and allow it to align with a 
mission, we will find true meaning to our lives. 
 
Our last lecture can truly be our guiding mission...
To BE BETTER at living life in sync with our vision!

- Pravin K. Sabnis 

PRAVIN SABNIS conducts UNLEARNING UNLIMITED outbound workshops. MONDAY MUSE is 
based on JCI-India’s National President’s theme: Touch To Transform (2004), We 
Are The Future (2005), Speak Through Action (2006), Develop New Dimensions 
(2007) & the JCI theme – BE BETTER (2008 onwards).





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Re: [Goanet] Parish churches... and priests of Salcete/Mormugao

[Edgar Ribeiro]

Dear Mr. Noronha,

Thanks for your E-mail regarding the launch of Fr. Nascimento's new book 
at Holy Spirit Church, Margao, on Sunday 11th April.
Unfortunately I'm at Delhi from the 5th to the 15th April but hope to 
catch up on this important publication on my return.
The relationship between Municipalities/Panchayats and their electoral 
wards on the one hand and the parishes of the Archdiocese on the other, 
would be a critical equation to be mapped for participatory planned 
development from ward level upward.


Regards

Edgar Ribeiro


On 24 March 2010 15:32, Frederick Noronha wrote:

Dear all:  Fr Nascimento J Mascarenhas is to release a new book,  on
Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 9 am at the Holy Spirit Church, in Margao.
This book is called 'Follow Me-Volume 3'.

[Goanet] Casino tickles

[soter]

So the anti-casino lobby is back in circulation these days over the governments 
decision to reduce the entry fee to 500 rupees. When the fees were 2,000 
rupees,  were the issues of gambling resolved? Another casino was added to the 
fleet a month ago but there was no sound from any quarter. What is the truth? 
Is gambling to be discouraged all together or is it only the entry fees to 
casinos in mandovi river that are a problem?  Goa ka activist log ajeeb hai!

-Soter

[Goanet] THE DESTRUCTION OF GOA

[Aires Rodrigues]

The Goa Government’s decision to freeze all new mining proposals has come
very late. It is in connivance with the administration that the authorities
have turned a blind eye to the rampant illegal mining in Goa, especially
over the last five years. Goa’s unparalleled environmental and ecological
damage has occurred during the current Digambar Kamat’s three year regime
and the preceding two years of Pratapsingh Rane’s rule.

How does the Chief Minister Digambar Kamat justify the arbitrary conversions
granted to facilitate selective Mega construction projects while the
Regional plan is yet to be finalized?  Chances are that we may not see a
Regional plan even by  2021, before Goa’s forest land, hills and fields are
all converted into concrete jungles.  If there was a punishment for the
destroyer of Goa it would unanimously be shared by Digambar Kamat and
Pratapsingh Rane.

One fails to understand how Digambar Kamat has the audacity of  seeking
God’s  blessings at every religious shrine possible. May be he has been
seeking forgiveness. God may, but the people of Goa and posterity in
particular will never forgive Digambar Kamat and Pratapsingh Rane for
destroying what was once India’s most beautiful state.

Aires Rodrigues
T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat
Ribandar - Goa - 403006
Mobile: 9822684372

Re: [Goanet] Thank you, Mr Obama

[Mervyn Lobo]

Jim Fernandes wrote:
> I am serious about the cost of insurance here in the US, my man. The cost is 
> ridiculously high and out of line! 



Jim F,
I am astounded by the price you have to pay for health insurance for your 
family!
This is an extremely heavy burden.


You may be aware that the provinces here in Canada guarantee the health care of 
their residents. This weekend, as I was gathering the documents for my tax 
returns,
I found a letter from my family doctor informing me that from now on he would be
charging $60.00 for a missed annual check-up. The comprehensive check up is 
free but missing it is now going to cost me money.


I guess the govt is serious about cutting costs. They know that the cost of 
treating
any medical condition is drastically lower when the disease is identified early.



> Don't get me wrong ... one could get cheaper plans. I could get one for about 
> $10,000 
> - if you call that cheap, but none of our existing doctors - whether my kids 
> pediatricians 
> or the primay care physicians would accept the cheaper plan. I asked the 
> pediatrician 
> why would he not accept it and the answer he gave me was that, the insurance 
> punks 
> would pay him hardly any money on the cheaper plan. So he told the cheapo 
> insurance 
> guys to take a hike.



The time I really get annoyed is when I read about people with insurance who 
wind up 
with horrendous bills when their health insurer refuses to pay. I guess you 
have seen plenty
such stories on 60 minutes about people who had to sue before their insurance 
company 
paid for their treatment. This is a uniquely American problem, driven by the 
need for 
profits, I guess.



> I am sure Dr J Colaco and the other physicians on GoaNet are fully aware of 
> what's 
> happening with the healthcare cost in the US. Its high time that everybody 
> share the 
> cost of healthcare - the individuals who can afford it and the corporations 
> who want 
> healthy workers.



A few days ago, I was reading about this car manufacturer who decided to locate 
its factory 
in Canada, rather than in the USA, because the local govt would bear the cost 
of health 
expenses. They would be saving $600 on the costs of each car by locating in 
Canada.


Once again, I must congratulate President Obama and the democrats for the super 
work
done on this new health plan. However, without universal health care, US 
residents are 
nowhere close to receiving the health care that the residents of all other 
western 
democracies enjoy.


Mervyn1110Lobo


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[Goanet] Blood Tests Could Predict Rheumatoid Arthritis | Better Health Research

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NowBlood tests may be able to predict Arthritis.
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[Goanet] "Colonialism" versus "liberation"

[john menezes]

"Colonialism" versus "liberation"

Goans born post 18 December 1961 and educated on make-believe history 
that Goa (used generically to include Daman, Diu, Dadra and Nagar 
Haveli) had been "reeling" under Portuguese "colonialism" may be very 
surprised when told by their generational predecessors that, except for 
the Governor General and the Chefe do Gabinete, the Secretary General 
and all departmental heads, indeed all civilian administrative 
personnel, were Goan and men of high integrity, that 99 percent of the 
police was Goan, and 100 percent judges were also Goan with no back-logs 
in Goan courts, and that Goa was represented in the Portuguese 
Parliament in Lisbon. A former Portuguese President, General António 
Ramalho Eanes, has recalled recently how in Goa he had served under a 
Goan military officer and that it was more like a family than a military 
unit (Expresso, Lisbon, 27 January 2007).


Very similar was the position of the French possessions in India.
If the reader wishes to seek documented evidence of the "liberation" of 
Pondicherry -  indeed the same may be the case in Goa where today the 
administrative chief and departmental secretaries, collectors, and a 
portion of the mamlatdars, judges and a substantial portion of the 
police are non-Goan - he/she is referred to " Imperial Burdens: 
Countercolonialism in Former French India" by William F.S. Miles 
(Publisher: Lynne Rienner, USA/UK, 1995) where, on pages 46 and 47, "One 
former freedom fighter, a defector from the French Indian police, 
describes the general post-merger mentality of (anglophone) Indian 
discrimination:
"The public have regard for the services I rendered to the nation. But 
not the officers of the Indian Bureaucracy who consider themselves to be 
the sons of Gods..The Indian bureaucracy are still behaving, even 
after 27 years of the British withdrawal, as the Imperial agents, and do 
not treat our people with fraternity. The Bureaucracy of the Union 
Territory of Pondicherry recruited from all parts of India do not treat 
the local people and officials as brothers. There is general complaint 
in Pondicherry that these Indian officials look down [on] the people and 
local officials and behave themselves as conquerors." (Dadala circa 1974).


Earlier, on page 34 in the same book, the view is expressed of a French 
Indian veteran L.S.R. as follows:
"Were there a referendum today you would have at least 50,000 
Pondichérians opting to become French...The Indian regime was more 
tyrannical than the French ever were..So severe were the Indians 
that those in the youth movement were the first ones to opt, in 1962, 
for French citizenship."


This book is indeed a sound investment for the Goan as well.
John Menezes

[Goanet] Goa news for March 29, 2010

[Goanet News Service]

Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** British fugitive dies in Goa jail - AFP
PPANAJI, India ” One of Britain's most wanted fugitives,
who was arrested last year in the Indian resort state of Goa,
has died after falling ill, ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hEMDy9rKuIORHnnWaDxE0STBxSVA&usg=AFQjCNGTgBPe72wfcAqawxrL-3qzddxRLw

*** Goa allocates Rs.5 crore for safety of tourists - Sify
rofile crimes against foreigners, the Goa government has
allocated Rs.5 ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://sify.com/news/goa-allocates-rs-5-crore-for-safety-of-tourists-news-national-kdzxkdjghab.html&usg=AFQjCNH67gQ4FR8B3Xyhx5zLqFhR66CVeA

*** Goa govt to rely on PPP model to boost Gross State Domestic
Product growth - Daily News & Analysis
erver.com/news/safety-of-tourists-goa-allocates-rs-5-23487.html&usg=AFQjCNGS98TUvxH-VKy69djGoQhqMyVDpA">Safety
Of Tourists : Goa Allocates Rs 5 Crores
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_goa-govt-to-rely-on-ppp-model-to-boost-gross-state-domestic-product-growth_1363982&usg=AFQjCNH7SJ4w0UffiSRibiVLx8QbKZHyPw

*** Probe fresh mining clearances in Goa: BJP - Sify
fyThe opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in Goa Saturday
demanded a probe into the environment clearance issued by the
central government for 100 more ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://sify.com/news/Probe-fresh-mining-clearances-in-Goa-BJP-news-National-kd1t4ccbhhd.html&usg=AFQjCNEl7wW6WUf8c5c_vMMfFRMuhjpWCQ

*** Fire on ship off Goa coast, crew safe - Indian Express
aved-from-burning-ship/articleshow/5733714.cms&usg=AFQjCNHHQNTrB5H3SOJwKmaqb7VgWpRv_Q">23
saved from burning ship
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Fire-on-ship-off-Goa-coast--crew-safe/596506&usg=AFQjCNERPLtW-oi6FsiChBHhiuc4H_CSDA

*** I-League: Viva Beat Sporting To Register First Ever Win In
Goa - Goal.com
 at the Jawaharlal ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/1064/i-league/2010/03/28/1853078/i-league-viva-beat-sporting-to-register-first-ever-win-in&usg=AFQjCNG4S_QfNAobQ6N4JhJvAjOvgNOvcw

*** Goa: property frenzy and crime poison the hippy dream - The
Guardian
uM">
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/28/goa-tensions-threaten-expat-paradise&usg=AFQjCNFuaqfMSrgsb5LdjcCjnkvcVCEFrA

*** Dylan, the I Ching and mango lassi: my life on Goa's beaches
- The Guardian
e GuardianSunsets were, if that is not a contradiction, a high
point of the day in Goa in the 1960s and early 70s. A
transcendental spectacle for free. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/28/goa-hippy-trail&usg=AFQjCNEwzKUCNPVAsQknUU5HVBPeemX3WA

*** Review drug cases against Russians in Goa: Moscow - Sify
aised-over-drug-cases-filed-by-tainted-Goa-cops&usg=AFQjCNHasB0TLmVbycwtonl-RIUDZw7roQ">Doubts
raised over drug cases filed by tainted Goa cops
http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://sify.com/news/review-drug-cases-against-russians-in-goa-moscow-news-national-kd1tuceajei.html&usg=AFQjCNH1G83a9jQv8Ds6Zk-5mgOojpXOPg

*** NHAI to bypass states where land acquisition is a roadblock
- Indian Express
dian ExpressBarring Goa, none of the states that lag behind in
land acquisition are governed by the Congress. "The ministry and
the National Highways Authority of India ...http://news.google.com/news/url?fd=R&sa=T&url=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/NHAI-to-bypass-states-where-land-acquisition-is-a-roadblock/596852&usg=AFQjCNFBxe5f8IRLK74ats9GGXi3b0RKWQ


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php

[Goanet] SON'VARACHIM SUNGTTAM: Gõychem do m’ naslolem rajkaronn!

[Goa World]

Gõychem dom’ naslolem rajkaronn!

http://sonvarchimsungttam.blogspot.com/2010/03/goychem-dom-naslolem-rajkaronn_27.html

-Jose Salvador Fernandes


"Fuddlea satolleant Gõyant rajki mollar anik kosleo-i ghodda-moddi zaum 
yetat, punn sorkar poddcho na ani tea ghoda-moddincho ekdancho xevott 
zauncho na hem mat khorem dista!" oxea utramni fattlea satolleant hanvem 
mhojem borovp sompoilelem.

Ani zalem-i toxench. Sorkar sodrer urloch!

Gõyant sodrer aslolo sorkar uddounk fuddem sorle khore, punn tanche te 
yeuzonnek dom' naslo. Tanche yeuzonnent porjechem boreponn naslem. Fokot 
tanchem boreponn aslem. Mhunnon tannim ekdancho sorkarak dilolo tenko 
rokddoch kaddunk na. To kaddche poilim tannim tenko kaddta, sorkar 
uddoita mhunn khub boball kelo. Khorench tor monant aslem zalear itlo 
bobbal kiteak kelo to somzonam. Boball korpak kelo, punn uddoilo na, 
thoinch tanche 'credibility'-n mar khalo. Rajkaronnant oxench. Rajkornni 
kitem-i korche adim don pavtti chintina.


Gõyant fattlea satolleant sorkar uddounk fuddem sorlele te lokache 
protinidhink khorem mhonnlear sorkar uddounk koslich buniyad nasli. 
Dekun 'budget session'-a vellar oxe kortele, toxe kortele ani sorkar 
uddoitele mhunn te varear boballtale.Khorem mhonnlear, aplo svarth 
sadounche khatir ti 'blackmail' korpachi ttrik asli. Punn ti tanchi 
ttrik khuinche khuim xelleli. Somzum-ia, tannim sorkar uddoilolo, zalear 
tacho mar Gõychea 'budget'-ak bostolo aslo. Udorgotiche nodrentlean 
Gõyak khuim tori mar bostolo aslo. Tachoporinnam' her-ui gozalincher 
bostolo aslo. Dispott'tto vevhar opangull zaupacho. Tednam he, lokan 
vinchun kaddlele protinidhi aplea motadrnk ani Gõyche porjek kitem zap 
ditele asle? Koxe ritin pottoitele asle?


Gõyche amdar-montri, rajkaronn mhonnlear hata bottancher khellpacho ani 
khelloupacho khell mhunn somzotat. Kiteak, je hetun te nivddun aileat 
tea tanchea hetunt Gõychem boreponn na. Porjechem boreponn na. 
Konnachench boreponn na. Te fokot aplea faidea khatir vinchnnuko 
loddoitat, apleach faidea khatir nivddun yetat, apleach faidea khatir 
nivddun yetoch ap-svarthan panvlam fuddem ghaltat ani apleach khatir 
jiyetat.



(c) www.goa-world.com
Son'var, 27 Mars 2010

http://sonvarchimsungttam.blogspot.com/2010/03/goychem-dom-naslolem-rajkaronn_27.html

[Goanet] Coastal dances of India: Kharvi Dance, Deknni Dance, Machhi Dance, Kholi Dance etc etc

[JoeGoaUk]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4467020893/sizes/l/
 
LEHER - The Wave
Folk Dances of Coastal India: 
Goa, Karnataka, Maharastra, 
Gujarat, Daman, Kerala, Tamilnadu, Pondicherry, 
Andhra Pradesh, Orissa, West Bengal etc
 
Dances like Dheknni Dance, MER RAAS, MACHHI DANCE, 
Kharvi Dance, SIDDHI DHAMAL, KOLI, DHOLU KUNITHA, KALARIPPAYATT, OYILATTAM 
DANCE, THIRAYATTAM, 
THAPETTA GULLU, SHANKH VADAN, GOTIPUA, 
BAUL-SINGER etc 
 
Video (all in one)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zw3i6YQC6g


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa & NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc


  The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. 
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Re: [Goanet] 8.30 pm, Lourdes Convent, March 27, 2010

[gautam mukerjea]

Frederick,

What a lovely and unique way of adding significance to the World Earth Day.

My loss that I missed out attending, but somehow was not aware of the
activity at Saligaon. Next time. But just to let you know, did turn
out the lights at 8.30 PM at the Earth Hour.

Best

Gautam


On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Frederick Noronha  wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> Thanks to a team of young teenagers (with support from some seniors),
> World Earth Day was observed at Lourdes Convent, Saligao.

Re: [Goanet] 8.30 pm, Lourdes Convent, March 27, 2010

[rose moraes]

Hi Frederick,

Thanks for the videos.
I heard the Video of Alice D'cruz..singing "I believe".
She has a very lovely Voice, and she should do something about that. It 
is  clean , smooth and absolutely in pitch.
Unfortunately the Accompanist on the Guitar didnt have the right Chords. 
He is musical and can easily learn and use more chords.


Rose Moraes (rosemora...@hotmail.it)
 Rome.

[Goanet] My yahoo account has been hacked

[walter menezes]

To, 
The Moderator,
Goanet.

Dear Sir,

My following account has been hacked:

walter_mene...@yahoo.com

Letters have been sent to all my friends on the mailing list that I am stranded 
in UK and in urgent need of money.

May I inform your readers that I am safe and very much in Goa.

Walter Menezes,
Quepem, Goa.

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Article 19 And All That Jazz (Dr Oscar Rebello, Herald)

[cypriano lopes]

Dear OSCAR BAB

The solution is simple ban the sale of agricultural land to non Goans.

cypriano Lopes

From: Goanet Reader

> Shantaram Naik is a decent, honorable man. Importantly, he is
> a true blooded, loyal congressman (an endangered species,
> almost a kin to an Eskimo in Africa).



Read all Goanet messages at:

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/

Re: [Goanet] 8.30 pm, Lourdes Convent, March 27, 2010

[soter]

Friends
The world will switch of their lights for one hour and consume ten times 
more energy in the next hour. These very people will cheer hydel 
projects for electricity in environmentally sensitive zones claiming it 
is a necessary evil. All hypocricy. This is not aimed at the youngsters 
who are not to blame.


-Soter


- Original Message -
From: "Frederick Noronha"

Hi all:

Thanks to a team of young teenagers (with support from some seniors), 
World Earth Day was observed at Lourdes Convent, Saligao. When the 
guitars were out, and the event was held at a more relaxed hour... there 
was a good turnout indeed!

Re: [Goanet] 8.30 pm, Lourdes Convent, March 27, 2010

[y...@unigoa.ac.in]

This will be a wonderfull memorable day for all involved. Congrats to 
the organizers.


Yma

Re: [Goanet] Fw: Rosary in Konkani and Ladainha - Toronto

[Frederick Noronha]

On 28 March 2010 20:29, J. Colaco  < jc>  wrote:

> For those who may wish to know, Michael (aka
> Mingloo) was my mentor in
> the field of debating

Oh my god, how did he do such a bad job then? :-) FN

Re: [Goanet] CMs proposal of 2000 strong CISF force forIndustry-Comments.

[Mervyn Lobo]

floriano wrote:
> You seem to have understood my point of view and have put forward the same in 
> your words and style.


My apologies.
I tend to get worked up when anyone introduces God into any discussion or 
debate.



> The people and/or agencies that issue licenses are doing so because we the 
> people elected them to that position. No?
> If they are doing what they want and not what the people want, then in their 
> eyes the people have become impotent. No?
> The million dollar question is: Are the people ( are we) impotent?
> Each one of us must answer this question, seriously and with introspection.



As far as your million dollar question is concerned, my view i.e. from Canada, 
is that not only do
the residents of Goa seem inactive but they also seem unwilling to support 
those who are trying
to rectify the situation. 

Mervyn1106Lobo



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Re: [Goanet] Thank you Mr Obama

[Jim Fernandes]

Mervyn,

I am serious about the cost of insurance here in the US, my man. The cost is 
ridiculously high and out of line! The plan I got, is sold by Oxford (Freedom 
Plan). You can probably go online and request for a quote yourself. If you 
still don't believe me, I'll show you my cancelled checks, if we happened to 
meet down the line ... and beer is on me.

Don't get me wrong ... one could get cheaper plans. I could get one for about 
$10,000 - if you call that cheap, but none of our existing doctors - whether my 
kids pediatricians or the primay care physicians would accept the cheaper plan. 
I asked the pediatrician why would he not accept it and the answer he gave me 
was that, the insurance punks would pay him hardly any money on the cheaper 
plan. So he told the cheapo insurance guys to take a hike.

I am sure Dr J Colaco and the other physicians on GoaNet are fully aware of 
what's happening with the healthcare cost in the US. Its high time that 
everybody share the cost of healthcare - the individuals who can afford it and 
the corporations who want healthy workers.

Jim F
New York.
  
-- Original message --
From: "J. Colaco  < jc>" 
>
> [1] Jim Fernandes wrote:
> 
> A few weeks ago, I purchased a new plan which includes about similar
> benefits as the plan I bought in 2001, but it now cost me some $15,000
> a year (actually $12,000 but I have to pay another $3,000 deductible,
> before the insurance punks begin to pay out, in case of a medical
> problem).
> 
> [2]  Mervyn Lobo  wrote:
> 
>  Jim F, Is this some kind of April Fools joke?
> 
> 
> RESPONSE:
> 
> Dear Mervyn,
> 
> Where is the joke in what Jim has written?
> 
> The only part Jim has inadvertently (perhaps) missed out is the following:
> 
> After the $3000 deductible is met, the insurance companies (depending
> upon the network policies) will cover 60-80% of what they term as
> reasonable charges.
> 
> A particular health insurance company's version of 'what is
> reasonable' has zip to do with what has been agreed as reasonable by
> the AMA.
> 
> And -never mind what Viviana writes- (and I believe both Marlon and
> Jim have alluded to this) There is NO such thing as "free" health
> care. Somebody (else) is paying for the free-ER care which is mandated
> by law.
> 
> jc

[Goanet] Goanet] Thank you Mr Obama

[manuel tavares]

Jim, you have explained the whole concept of Health Insurance in the US 
perfectly. The Insurance Companies are only interested in enhancing their 
profits so that their top Execs can be paid fantastic bonuses. They do not care 
for the health care system nor for the people they insure. Their only issue is 
, ' How Much Can I Get.' I think that the Democrats voted their conscience and 
did the right thing by the American people. 

Regards..Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares.

Re: [Goanet] Fw: Rosary in Konkani and Ladainha - Toronto

[J. Colaco < jc>]

I am truly delighted to know that my very good friend and debating
opponent (during college days in Goa) Michael Pinto has embarked on
this project from the very cold climes of Winnipeg, Canada.

For those who may wish to know, Michael (aka Mingloo) was my mentor in
the field of debating. Those days, the debating field had some very
strong contenders including Michael Pinto, Pandurang Ginde, Yadunath
Joshi and Santosh Lad. And then there were the impostors e.g. Wilfred
Mesquita and Jawaharlal Henriques. No prizes for guessing that Michael
and yours truly, wiped out the opposition. The impostors, as we had
predicted, joined (successfully or otherwise) the field of politics.

BTW: If anyone has any contact with Pandurang Ginde, would you please
advise? It would be nice for Michael and me to renew contact.

Michael and I have been talking about this project for some time. The
initial plan was to get it videotaped in Goa ...but it was kind of
difficult to organise. So, it appears that the "Canadian" production
will go.

At least, there will be none of this divisive nonsense of What is
Konkani, Devanagri/Antruzi/Romi etc etc. It is best to leave that
nonsense to the weirdos.

That brings me to this point which I read a couple of minutes ago:

Sebastian Borges  wrote: "it would be a fallacy
to say that Ladainha which is familiar to Goan Catholics was brought
by the Portuguese.  They could not have brought it because it was not
available anywhere; it is entirely home-cooked using ingredients that
were at hand!"

Trust the following might be useful. It is posted without comment or
verification.

Sincerely

jc
Amanha = Time to refocus on other matters. Enough of zuzz on GN for March
.

The Origin of the Ladainha (Origem das ladainhas)
http://www.npdbrasil.com.br/religiao/rel_meditar_012.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtp7oldyDpU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM4VwjTOp5E&feature=related

[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Eastern immigrants steeped in Western mores (Armand Rodrigues)

[Goanet Reader]

EASTERN IMMIGRANTS STEEPED IN WESTERN MORES

By Armand Rodrigues
arod...@pathcom.com

In the assimilation process, most immigrants to Canada, from
the Eastern hemisphere, have had to adapt rapidly to societal
norms within codes of conduct, language nuances and social
interaction, somewhat dissimilar from those they left behind.
Hardly so, for those from the former Portuguese colony of
GOA, in India -- a mere dot on the map of the world.

  At first blush, Goans abroad have to be perceived
  as an enigma by an anthropologist or by their
  neighbours and peers. They hail from the East, have
  the same pigmentation and attributes as one from
  the East, yet are distinctly Western in deportment.
  To understand this seeming paradox, it is necessary
  to cast a backward glance in time at the
  evolutionary process that brought about this unique
  condition.

The moulding process commenced with the Portuguese gaining a
foothold in Goa, in 1510 (they held sway until 1961). They
came with a sword in one hand and a crucifix in the other.
Mass conversions to Catholicism followed. With conversion,
came a sea-change in eating habits. The cow may have been
holy to the Hindu, and the pig unholy to the Muslim, but to
the omnivorous newly-minted Catholic, nothing was anathema.
'Demon' alcohol came with the territory.

  Other factors were also conducive to the
  re-orientation phase. The first printing press in
  all of India, came to Goa in 1556, and gave Goans
  an edge in Western education. The first Jesuit
  college was established in 1574, followed by a
  secular school in 1773.  English schools commenced
  in the 18th century. Steamships made their debut in
  1870, and the railroad in 1886, thus putting things
  on a faster track and opening up opportunities
  farther afield.

Before long, the Portuguese declared Goans -- regardless of
denomination -- as legally equal to themselves.  The
cross-fertilization of cultures had long before that earned
Goans the sobriquet of 'Romans of the East'.  Catholics ate,
drank, dressed, worshipped, engaged in sports and behaved
like their Western counterparts throughout.  In this
crucible, everything seemed to coalesce for the Goan, making
him or her the complete package.  Women were being accorded
parity with men.

With the advantage of a Western background superimposed on
their Eastern ethos, Goans could readily make themselves at
home in any new environment. The commonality was not lost on
the British and the Portuguese, who treated Goans as
preferred recruits for their colonies. Sporting and social
interaction with their recruiters helped polish any rough
edges the Goans may have had.

  In the 1960s, political changes in emerging Third
  World countries certainly jolted the Goans from
  their complacent stomping grounds. They got
  propelled into repositories of Western culture,
  such as England, America, Canada and Australia in
  the South. Hardly a ripple of cultural shock was
  evidenced by them in their new environment. The
  antecedent metamorphosis had groomed them for
  receptivity and a soft landing. It was easier for
  them to burn their boats behind them and come
  without any real cultural baggage to weigh them
  down.

The majority of Goan immigrants to Canada fell into the
domain of the white-collar worker, with no major disparity in
education between men and women, or in self-confidence. (Of
course, like most other immigrants, Goans had to endure the
humiliating Canadian affront to their education and work
experience). Noteworthy is the fact that Goan women were able
to make a valuable contribution to the family income and
expedite home ownership.

Goans are not found living in concentrations or enclaves in
Canada.  This diffusion has perhaps helped congruity with
their neighbours and made for better inter-personal
chemistry, specially when the Goans' unmistakable occidental
orientation becomes manifest. Integration and putting down
roots came about rapidly.

For Goans,the umbilical cord has been severed and  any
residual Eastern tug of the past no longer competes with the
Western pull of the present.  They are here to stay and to
leave behind a favourable imprint on their adoptive country.

Copyright @arodrigues2008

[Goanet] Fw: Rosary in Konkani and Ladainha - Toronto

[Sebastian Borges]

It is gratifying to note that some Catholic Goans in far away Canada are trying 
to keep a purely Goan rite alive among their brethren settled there.  This at a 
time when the recitation of the Rosary in Konbkani has all but disappeared in 
Mumbai.  There was a time when the Rosary was a regular activity in Catholic 
homes there every evening, especially in the clubs or kudds where it was not 
only compulsory for the residents but also began at 8 pm sharp.  Later, in Goan 
Catholic families it became a bilingual affair with the children reciting in 
English while the elders said their prayers in Konkani.  Today, everyone says 
the prayers in English, the grannies who never went to any school saying, "Ah 
father, fourteen heaven "   The Toronto Goans seem to attempt a reversal of 
this trend.  My congratulations and all luck to them!

However, it would be a fallacy to say that Ladainha which is familiar to Goan 
Catholics was brought by the Portuguese.  They could not have brought it 
because it was not available anywhere; it is entirely home-cooked using 
ingredients that were at hand!  Even today, it is found only in Goa and 
wherever Goan Catholics have taken it along.  Ithink it is not found in any 
other language or culture, anywhere in the world.  How come?

Like the Intruz and KristaPuranna, the Ladainha too was a device to replace 
something that the converts were habituated to, before their conversion to 
Christianity.  [Christmas came to be celebrated post-Winter solstice, for an 
analogous reason.]  

The Goan Hindus have a rite called Satyanarayana Puja which is performed for 
almost all the reasons that the Catholics celebrate the Ladainha.  In this puja 
too the prayers are sung.  Therefore, as a substitute, we have a conglomeration 
of the Litany of Our Lady in Latin, Salve Rainha and Virgem Mae de Deus in 
Portuguese all set to music.  (Are the different music scores for these 
prevalent anywhere else? I doubt it.)  This is followed by the singing the 
hymns or 'orasanvam' in honour of the saints of the family (whose images are 
present in the oratory).  

I would be happy to learn of any parallels elsewhere.   


Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:46:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mervyn Lobo 
To: GOANET 
Subject: [Goanet] Fw: Rosary in Konkani and Ladainha - Toronto
Message-ID: <783859.94624...@web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

One of the age old traditions in Goa is the celebration of the ladainha, which 
was brought to Goa by the Portuguese. The ladainha is a form of worship that 
includes singing and recitation of hymns and prayers in both Konkani and Latin.


Ladainhas take place all year round to celebrate a birthday, anniversary, 
christening or a devotion to a particular saint. At the end of the ladainha, 
boiled grams and snacks are served to the participating devotees.


Michael Pinto of Winnipeg is heading an initiative to video tape the ladainha 
and the reciting of the Rosary in Konkani. It will be available on the internet 
on May 1st, 2010, the beginning of the month of Our Lady of the Rosary.

The idea is to preserve and promote our language and culture so that the 
younger generations can continue this tradition. This event will take place on 
Sunday, April 11th 2010 at Our Lady of the Rosary Church at 2950 Midland Avenue 
(Midland and Finch) in Scarborough from 2:00 p.m. to 3:30 p.m. Light 
refreshments will be served in the church hall immediately following the rosary 
and the ladainha.

For this event to be a success, Michael is looking for members of the Goan 
community who can recite the Rosary in Konkani, for singers to join the choir, 
any donations to help defray the cost of this project and for volunteers. 
Everybody is welcome, hymn and prayer sheets will be provided.

Please see flyer (PDF) on this event. More details can be found at 
www.konkanirosary.org. If you have any questions, please contact Michael Pinto 
directly at konkaniros...@hotmail.com.
Marcelina Dias
Cultural Secretary




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[Goanet] Goanet Reader: Article 19 And All That Jazz (Dr Oscar Rebello, Herald)

[Goanet Reader]

Article 19 And All That Jazz

We can get our act together and
demonstrate that we're
completely committed to stem
the rot, writes DR. OSCAR
REBELLO docosca...@rediffmail.com

Shantaram Naik is a decent, honorable man. Importantly, he is
a true blooded, loyal congressman (an endangered species,
almost a kin to an Eskimo in Africa). As Rajya Sabha M.P he
has passionately argued a lot of issues affecting Goa and
occasionally has got a rap(e) on his knuckles for some foot
in the mouth comments.

Recently, he opened a Pandora's box, when he made a forceful
plea on the floor of parliament, that Article 19, Section 5
needs to be debated and applied to Goa.

What does Article 19 Section say? Part III, Article 19
Section 5 of the Constitution of India states: (d) Any Indian
citizen can freely travel throughout India (e) Reside or
settle in any part of the territory of India.

Interestingly it also states that

  (5) Nothing in sub clause (d) and (e) of the said
  clause shall affect the operation of any existing
  law in so far as it imposes or prevents the state
  from making any law imposing reasonable
  restrictions or exercise of any of the rights
  conferred by said sub clause either in interest of
  the general public or for protection of interests
  of any scheduled tribe.

So, Eureka, we have hit the proverbial pot of gold at the end
of the rainbow. Our Holy Grail, the key to special status. We
can stem the deluge. Our State Government can seek to enact a
law to prevent "outsiders" buying Goa.

However, according to many lawyers I spoke to, they are
unanimous that this Act is a near impossibility under the
present circumstances. For two reasons:

(i) India, as a Union, already faces a severe threat to
almost being torn asunder by a million mutinies everywhere.
Mumbai, the Naxal belt; the north east; J & K. So this
insular "Keep Indians out of Goa" war cry will never resonate
in our temple of democracy (and morally, do we have the right
to make this demand when Goans settle and thrive everywhere).

(ii) Goans are by and large a peaceful, accommodating
malleable people hardly reputed for any violent insurgencies.
And it is only through a barrel of a gun, when thrust into
the Indian state, that talks of autonomy etc. are actually
entertained by the Indian Government.

Hence, Article 19 though a palpably enticing panacea for our
ills, will always remain a distant mirage for the foreseeable
future.

So, does this mean that Goa allows herself to skid down this
disastrous road to perdition. Can our land still be salvaged?
Can sanity shine like daylight through this maddening
darkness?

Yes! Yes! A Resounding Yes ! But for this your focus and
efforts Mr. Naik must not be at the centre. You need to
squarely set your targets on the Goa Assembly, your hideously
corrupt Government and the people of Goa.

Unless, we can get our Act together and demonstrate to a man
(and woman) that we are completely committed to stem the
rot, the rest of the country will care fiddle sticks for us,
and the land mafia will continue to treat us like a bunch of
chorus girls and boys, happy with a few dollars thrust into
our panties.

My 10 suggestions, for us to get going.

(1) Along with the top brass in your Government (if they are
not busy waltzing with G7) evolve a consensus along with all
Opposition parties and NGOs and other stakeholders on the way
forward. Saving Goa is in everyone's interest. And there are
equally committed, passionate leaders who love Goa, who will
play ball only if you guys in Government are deadly serious
about saving Goa.

  (2) You will need to evolve a water tight mechanism
  to scrutinize and accordingly reject outright all
  giant land deals that take place in Goa. The State
  level Committee (SLC) can be packed with more
  honourable men and women with impeccable
  credentials to monitor these GIGA land
  transactions. The SLC must have the statutory
  backing of your government to achieve this
  objective. No one can buy Goan land if Goan land is
  not allowed to be sold on a gigantic scale.

(3) Your Government must devise ways to make alternative use
of this land, to profit the owner. If every Goan, thinks that
the only passport to happiness is to palm off his ancestral
property to a seedy land shark for peanuts we are in deep,
deep trouble. For example: Why can't we pay an environment
tax to a bhatcar who has a huge orchard, forest or
eco-sensitive zone piece of land? If there is a monetary
reward to keep your property in a virgin state, people will
buy your argument.

(4) Sincerely engage industry and housing bigwigs, economists
and environmentalists to draft the alternate economic model
for Goa. But then for this alternative, sustainable,
pollution free economy to flourish, beady-eyed, 10 percent
extortionist ministers must be kept at a huge distance and
one w

[Goanet] And the Oscar goes to...

[Rajan P. Parrikar]

To Goanet -

Dr. Anil Desai has accurately summed up the deceit of the
ex-Convener of GBA Dr. Oscar Rebello here -

http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-March/191418.html


It is curious that Herald would not publish Dr. Desai's column.
It was in Herald that Dr. Rebello first revealed that he had 
"danced footsie" with Digambar Kamat.  Yet Ashwin Tombat,
the Editor, strangely has nothing to say on this important
matter, this betrayal of the Goa Bachao movement by its
then-convener.

This same Tombat had no qualms raising questions when 
Soter & I organized the Goa People's Assembly, hiding behind 
the veneer of "Tomkat."  He did not bother to contact me for my
side of the story.  The super journo that he is, he simply divined 
his gossip and promptly pee'ed in his rag.

(Tombat and his cohorts are miscalculating here.  The
days of suppressing information and ideas are long gone.  Goans
find out what's what and who's who one way or the other.)

Editors and journos in Goa know which side of their bread is buttered.  
Another bhailo editor-defender of Dr. Rebello was allegedly rewarded
with lakhs of rupees for being the faithful lapdog and dutifully
barking at Manohar Parrikar from behind his tipple-washed desk.
Admin Noronha can perhaps present us his droppings on
this topic of bread, butter & Digu (Go for it, Noronha!).

Now we hear that Dr. Rebello wants to erect high rise buildings 
for ghatis in Goa.  I mean, why not?  Goan roads are 
overflowing with milk and honey (thanks MARG!).  So who 
will get the contract for this bee in Dr. Rebello;s bonnet?  
Perhaps the secular builder from Margao?  Well, why not?  
He made the cut in Dr. Rebello's 10 great Goans didn't he?


Dr. Rebello weekly exertions in the Herald to resurrect his 
footsie-tainted credibility have been noted.  But as we say in 
America - not happenin' dude.

Regards,


r

Re: [Goanet] Modi's appearance a victory: BJP - Comments

[floriano]

Modi's appearance  a victory: BJP
TOI - 28 Mar. 2010

New Delhi
Modi answered over 60 questions
Ahmedabad: Deputy inspector general of police (retd) AK Malhortra, of the 
SC-appointed SIT, questioned Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi for his 
possible
role i the post-Godhra Gujarat riots for five long hours beginning Saturday 
noon, with a half-hour break at 2 pm. He is said to have answered 50 of some 
63 questions in the first session after which he addressed the media right 
outside the SIT. Soon after he was criticized for not turning up for 
questioning on March 21, Modi had written a letter addressed to "my beloved 
countrymen" where he said  that rumours were being spread about him to 
defame Gujarat. TNN


Comments:
If the 5 hour questioning by the SC appointed SIT of the  master criminal 
conspirator,  the CM of Gujarat state, becomes a VICTORY for this debased 
party called the BJP, it only goes to show that this shameless BJP is trying 
to shovel out victories from stinking gutters of shame. That Modi was not 
hand-cuffed and taken for questioning should be the biggest favour that the 
SIT has done to this master criminal, where next to Germany's Hitler, he has 
overseen the bloody massacre  of more than 60 people, including a 
Parliamentarian, just because they were Muslims,  when they were begging him 
for help, let alone the thousands of other men women and children done to 
merciless death. Is this any matter of pride???


This is the lowest that the BJP has sunk to. The sub-lowest will be when 
Advani along with Modi are lodged in the darkest cell of the Tihar Jail, 
together, for the rest of their miserable lives. And, it is coming to that 
with   Anju Gupta and Jakia Jafri, adamantly working towards this. The 
nation should give these two ladies the highest merit awards possible.


Cheers
floriano
PPS
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www.goasu-raj.org





It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST citizens  contest elections.
It is not ENOUGH that GOOD, HONEST  citizen voters elect good, honest 
representatives.

GOA urgently needs  'GOOD, HONEST, DISCIPLINED SYSTEM of GOVERNANCE'.
Wherein, even a dishonest person is forced to be good, honest n disciplined, 
or to QUIT.


Only through PPS can such 'good, honest n disciplined system of governance' 
be identified and accepted.


PPS GOA =PEOPLE for POLITICAL SANITY = PEOPLE'S POWER SYSTEM
for a date in 2012

Be bold. Display the 'PPS' sticker on your vehicle today, to reject 
political madness tomorrow.
[Note: PPS stickers are available at CHAMPS Sports Shops - 
Mapusa-Panjim-Margao] 

Re: [Goanet] [Goanet-News] 8.30 pm, Lourdes Convent, March 27, 2010

[gautam mukerjea]

Frederick,

What a lovely and unique way of adding significance to the World Earth Day.

My loss that I missed out attending, but somehow was not aware of the
activity at Saligaon. Next time. But just to let you know, did turn
out the lights at 8.30 PM at the Earth Hour.

Best

Gautam

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Frederick Noronha  wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> Thanks to a team of young teenagers (with support from some seniors), World
> Earth Day was observed at Lourdes Convent, Saligao. When the guitars were
> out, and the event was held at a more relaxed hour... there was a good
> turnout indeed!
>
> Singing, enthusiasm, some short speeches... and a little debate too!
>
> Some photographs from the event:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4468007964/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4468006526/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4467229487/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4468005002/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4467228163/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4468000928/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4467997688/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4467225367/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4467221057/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4467996120/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4467217885/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4467219501/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4467989824/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/4467988360/
>
> There was no shortage of a crowd -- some came in from Pilerne and Porvorim!
> Maybe this is a hint that campaigners who suffer from shortage of numbers
> need to look at a more convenient time to make their point (after dinner,
> kids' exams getting over) and with some music thrown in!  Maybe we could
> learn from those South Africans who dance to make their protest point!
>
> See some short videos (might take a bit of time to get uploaded) on the
> third row of this page:
> http://www.youtube.com/user/fredericknoronha?feature=mhw4     Rgds, FN
> --
> Frederick Noronha
> Books from Goa ::  http://goa1556.goa-india.org
>

Re: [Goanet] Wren and Martin Was: Re: Writing slowly and getting confused by one's own words? (was Obama etc)

[Gabe Menezes]

On 27 March 2010 13:14, Frederick Noronha wrote:

> Did you mean Bar or bar?
>
> Would Wren and Martin, god bless their colonial souls, be of much help
> here? FN
>
> Frederick Noronha
> +91-832-2409490 or +9822122436
>

RESPONSE: Am referring to this one baba:-

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Bar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_%28establishment%29


DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.

Re: [Goanet] Thank you Mr Obama

[J. Colaco < jc>]

[1] Jim Fernandes wrote:

A few weeks ago, I purchased a new plan which includes about similar
benefits as the plan I bought in 2001, but it now cost me some $15,000
a year (actually $12,000 but I have to pay another $3,000 deductible,
before the insurance punks begin to pay out, in case of a medical
problem).

[2]  Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

 Jim F, Is this some kind of April Fools joke?


RESPONSE:

Dear Mervyn,

Where is the joke in what Jim has written?

The only part Jim has inadvertently (perhaps) missed out is the following:

After the $3000 deductible is met, the insurance companies (depending
upon the network policies) will cover 60-80% of what they term as
reasonable charges.

A particular health insurance company's version of 'what is
reasonable' has zip to do with what has been agreed as reasonable by
the AMA.

And -never mind what Viviana writes- (and I believe both Marlon and
Jim have alluded to this) There is NO such thing as "free" health
care. Somebody (else) is paying for the free-ER care which is mandated
by law.

jc

[Goanet] OBITUARY - JOHN PHILIP D'COSTA (Curtorim/Kuwait)

[Goan Cultural Centre]

 OBITUARY - JOHN PHILIP
D'COSTA


*OBITUARY - JOHN PHILIP D'COSTA
*(Maina, Curtorim (Goa)/Kuwait]

[Employee of Al-Hasawi Refrigerator & Water Cooler Factories WLL, Kuwait]


Son of Late Jack Sebastian D'Costa & Late Thomalina D'Costa, husband of
MRS. TRINICIA D'COSTA and beloved father of Ritviz D'Costa left for his
Heavenly Abode on 19th March 2010 in Kuwait.

His mortal remains will be for final viewing on Monday, 29 March 2010
at the Al-Sabah Hospital Mortuary, Kuwait at 9.00 a.m., later to be flown
to Goa on the same day.

Funeral services will be held in Maina, CURTORIM, Salcete, Goa.
Our sincere condolences to the bereaved family. May his soul rest in peace.

We gratefully acknowledge and thank the Embassy of India and the Government
Authorities, Al-Sabah Hospital and all those who rendered their support to
assist to repatriate the mortal remains.


GOAN CULTURAL CENTRE-KUWAIT
28 March 2010

--



  [image: Resources for the Season of
Lent]

http://www.catholic-church.org/kuwait/

Re: [Goanet] Mary Mount Chapel - Then and Now

[J. Colaco < jc>]

Dear Rajan-bab,

Thanks for the courtesy of your reply.

If one understands 'religion' in the context of power and control, the
way I do, one will come to the same conclusion as I have personally
reached i.e. those in quest of power will destroy any symbol or centre
which does not submit to it. Those that submit are absorbed within the
power structure, albeit at varying levels on the power-ladder.

This would not be a novel idea. And no one people has been immune from
this effect of power + land grab. It is my believe that no one
dispossess another of land and power - by peaceful means. It is always
a concoction of Machiavellian treachery, misrepresentation, and (if
necessary) brute force.

As far as the magnitude of the problem, it is possible for it to be
debatable. Personally, I am not sure if ALL the events were recorded,
and that too recorded in a non-partisan fashion. For, those who record
history, tend to glorify their own and demonify the other side. As the
saying goes: One side's terrorists become another side's freedom
fighters.and glorious one's at that.

So, one has to fall back on a reasonable explanation as to why the
Buddhist shrines almost disappeared from the subcontinent; that too,
before the arrival of the Muslims. (I also have a Nepali friend who
has promised to allow me access to jpeg images of Nepali documents
which will support the view that (at least in the northernmost part of
the subcontinent) Buddhism was suppressed by the pro-Brahman forces.

I will believe it when/if I get to see the jpeg images my next
challenge will be to have them translated into Hindi or English.

Accordingly, I disagree with you but I accept that the past is what
one learns from - so that one does not repeat the evils of our
forebears.

good wishes

jc

BTW: I do not personally know Pravin Sabnis but I know individuals
(whom I trust) of differing faiths and even one who has no faith.
Their opinion of Pravin Sabnis, uniformly, is diametrically opposite
of yours.

But I accept that your opinion is yours.


===

On 27 March 2010 20:06, Rajan P. Parrikar  wrote:

Dear JC-bab,

I have left my response to your comment -

http://www.parrikar.com/blog/2010/03/26/chapel-on-the-hill

This topic is a redux, and keeps appearing with periodicity on the
internet; there are many good discussions of it on the web.  I will
simply record here that I completely disagree with your view.  As for
quoting Pravin Sabnis, that fellow will say whatever is self-serving,
and that means on Goanet he will chirp sweet-nothings that are sweet
to Catholic ears.

Regards,


r

[Goanet] Talking Photo: Welcome to Parrikar’s constituency

[JoeGoaUk]

Talking Photo: Welcome to Parrikar’s constituency
 
Whether it is Sunday or Monday
Whether it is a day or night
Whether it is a high tide or low tide
This one operates round the clock, 365 days a year
 
There is another one near the dog
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim4/4469418836/sizes/l/

 
cc to
CCP commissioner
City MLA
GT/H etc


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

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For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc


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[Goanet] Some say it is 'Goa's Hanging Garden'

[JoeGoaUk]

Goa's Hanging Garden?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk24/4467689371/sizes/l/
This pic taken at around 3pm
 
Also understand that Goa Police regulalry visit here just before 7pm (to 
make some bucks?)
Whereas, park's closing time is 9.30pm which is prominently 
displayed at the entrances.

It's Campal Park,  near Old GMC or opp Inox


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

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http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc


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[Goanet] The Princess and the Sea

[Vasant Baliga]

Shalini Singh, Hindustan Times
Email Author
Goa, March 28, 2010






   
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 Since the last decade, this ‘princess’ has ‘ruled’ one of the most popular 
beach stretches in the world. Steadily stripped of her finery over the years, 
she stands as a stubborn eyesore on Goa’s richest tourist hub today.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/goa/The-princess-and-the-sea/Article1-524174.aspx

 
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[Goanet] Daily Grook #658

[Francis Rodrigues]

DAILY GROOK #658
==
GRADE FADE
==
by Francis Rodrigues




ma lecturers told me

i could do as i pliz,

so my courses at uni

i finished with e's!



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