[Goanet-News] GOA-OLDPHOTO: Goan picnic in Kenya, NBI Ball, Fatima's Margao 1962, wedding in Curtorim, CtK-Karachi, detailed colonial map...
Goans at a picnic probably in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) From the Pinto Collection, Moira. Courtesy: Augusto Pinto. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6863622049/in/photostream NBI (National Bank of India?) Ball, Kenya, East Africa, circa 1950s or 1960s http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862779839/in/photostream Fatima High School, Margao, Goa... Class of 1962 From the collection of Gilbert Menezes. Copyleft. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862776063/in/photostream A wedding in Curtorim, Goa circa 1929 From the collection of Pe Antonio Da Costa Photo of Pe Antonio's uncle's wedding in Curtorim, Salcete, Goa, circa 1929. Rosarinho da Costa, the groom, was a prominent musician and led his own orchestra, In Rangoon, in Shanghai China, Ceylon and then in Bangalore (Bengaluru). Among others, Pe Antonio's two other uncles Milagres Da Costa and Domingos Da Costa were members of this orchestra. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862774477/in/photostream Karachi, Christ the King (circa 1940s or perhaps earlier) From the collection of Menin Rodrigues . Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862772469/in/photostream Carta de Goa... A colonial time map of Goa, Belgaum and neighbouring areas. In Portuguese. Received via the Net (sorry... lost the contacts of the sender... if it was you, please get in touch so that I can credit adequately). Copyleft. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862770779/sizes/o/in/photostream/ Colonial cousins... Goan youth, pre-1961, in the uniform of the Mocidade Portuguesa. From the collection of Alfred Tavares/Stockholm. Copyleft. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. The Mocidade Portuguesa (English: Portuguese Youth) was a Portuguese youth organization under the right-wing regime of the Estado Novo. Membership was compulsory between the ages of 7 and 14, and voluntary until the age of 25. Founded in 1936 by Tiago Franco, it was originally inspired upon the model of the Italian Fascist Opera Nazionale Balilla and the Nazi Hitler Youth. However, in 1940 the Germanophile National Secretary Francisco Nobre Guedes was replaced by the Anglophile Marcelo Caetano, who gave the organization a different own orientation, withdrawing from the Hitler Youth and abandoning its paramilitary feature, approaching to the Catholic Church and other youth organizations as the Scout Movement.[1] It was dissolved in 1974, after the Carnation Revolution, being considered at that time as a Fascist organization. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mocidade_Portuguesa http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862743537/in/photostream Igreja de Aldona... year not known (original photo BW) From the Pinto Collection, Moira. Courtesy: Augusto Pinto. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6863610067/in/photostream Goan family in Uganda, 1947 (year mentioned on reverse) Noting on the reverse: To Melvyn Mendonca: Joseph, Canute, Aloysius, Thelma, Clara, Babush, and Theresa Mathias. From the Pinto Collection, Moira. Courtesy: Augusto Pinto. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6863615021/in/photostream Goans in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862809659/in/photostream Goan mother and daughter in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862807835/in/photostream Unidentified scene in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862806339/in/photostream Unidentified scene from Kenya, Colonial East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862804429/in/photostream The Pilgrim Statue visits Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862802791/in/photostream Goan family in Africa, Kenya (circa 1960s) From the Pinto Collection, Moira. Courtesy: Augusto Pinto. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6863612725/in/photostream Goan sportspersons in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862798847/in/photostream Picnic at the waterfalls, Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862796229/in/photostream Religious function in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862794985/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862790291/in/photostream Religious procession in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862792993/in/photostream Goan outing in Kenya, East Africa, 1950s or 1960s circa http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862791625/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862788979/in/photostream
[Goanet-News] Goa news for February 14, 2012
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Rebels galore in Congress for Goa assembly polls - Hindustan Times lection-2012-rebels-galore-in-congress-for-goa-polls/articleshow/11869165.cmsAssembly Election 2012: Rebels galore in Congress for Goa polls http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFeDB1tNTsVvE3tdUlikJPlVJJOSAurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Goa/Rebels-galore-in-Congress-for-Goa-assembly-polls/Article1-810599.aspx *** Trinamool in Goa like mushroom in monsoon: Cong - IBNLive.com merged Trinamool Congress in Goa to a mushroom growing in the monsoon, saying the party had just come up at the height of the electoral season and would not have much impact. http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFSq-sG9MagVjmn2KPSPWYtfbJLKQurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/news/trinamool-in-goa-like-mushroom-in-monsoon-cong/229903-37-170.html *** Proving their Metal - Chandigarh Newsline andigarh NewslineBut Aryan, Varun Dayal, Rohit Sharma, Rishab Mahajan and Samarth Trehan have made Delhi proud as their metal band has just won an award at the finals of the prestigious Channel V Launchpad IndiaFest in Goa. Scythus #148; one of two shortlisted Delhi bands ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHuSN34jnJLncIfVrohwZx7qcvPqwurl=http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/proving-their-metal/911043/ *** Goa's power player game for third stint as CM - Hindustan Times orner-onethird-of-cong-tickets-in-goa/229057-37-170.htmlFamilies corner one-third of Cong tickets in Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGzTQ75jCEUUzEmTR182lgtv_U2Pgurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Goa/Goa-s-power-player-game-for-third-stint-as-CM/Article1-810481.aspx *** Goa Assembly Election 2012: BJP woos elderly, women ahead of polls - Economic Times GP hold joint rally in temple town http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEcCzkiNW-NIxbauvRPH6j3ZBTgZQurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/goa-assembly-election-2012-bjp-woos-elderly-women-ahead-of-polls/articleshow/11869606.cms *** Gold Anomaly Limited (ASX:GOA) Intersected Extensive New Gold Mineralised Zone ... - Yahoo!7 News (ABN Newswire) - Gold Anomaly Limited (ASX:GOA.AX - News) is pleased to announce the results for its latest drill hole NEV031. NEV031 was drilled to test the northeast extension of the mixing zone mineralisation where ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEKT2SNRlQCrghcbDrvm9UV2WBEcgurl=http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/gold-anomaly-limited-asx-goa-231015265.html *** Valentine's Day India: Goa most romantic - Indian Express ontinent, where Paris was the most desired destination for romance abroad. Over 800 people voted in the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHcXYvzlembqnOfWSb9lP77h3nD6wurl=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/valentines-day-india-goa-most-romantic/911543/ *** City pimp held in Goa - Deccan Chronicle ff, the Anjuna police in North Goa has arrested one T. Soni alias Sonia, 30, from Hyderabad for running a sex racket. The police sources said that Sonia would advertise for girls to work as extras in the Telugu film industry and later ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH5LIHvxVQ5BXa6tnBRLgt1r68WjAurl=http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/hyderabad/city-pimp-held-goa-874 *** Uphill or downhill, Goa / Karnataka on 4A - Times of India (blog) amed beach in Goa. Rose is a shade over 2 years old. We are on NH 4A. There in the jungle, Kate asks me, as Jon looks on in that pleasant way which ex-shippies have when they come ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH69qEA1DT41A_f9fUTPdicr2Zstwurl=http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Diary-of-a-Divorced-Delhi-Male/entry/uphill_or_downhill_goa_karnataka_on_4a *** In Goa, the future's as bright as the notes are high - Times of India rofessional singers whose enthusiasm and spirit matched those of their senior counterparts ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGAdFOEPQj4E_30GYTR5Ahs_QpsAAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/In-Goa-the-futures-as-bright-as-the-notes-are-high/articleshow/1186.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Ranes, Alemaos and Monserrates, could control 19 constituencies
Ranes, Alemaos and Monserrates, could control 19 constituencies 2012-02-13 There are so many disgruntled Congressmen flouncing out, resigning from the party and standing as Independent candidates. They are doing this for two reasons. Since the Congress will not be funding their campaign, all they will do is play spoiler for the Congress. If they win, they will definitely rejoin the Congress as did Vishwajit Rane, Churchill Alemao, Reginald Lourenco and Babush Monserrate in the fullness of time, using the rejoining as an opportunity to drive home a good bargain. If they stand to lose and only play spoiler, eating into the votebase of the Congress party, they could bargain with the Congress to withdraw from the hustings at a price. Right now everything is in a state of flux, with both Congress and BJP. Vijay Pai Khot is feeling like all kinds of a fool after leaving the BJP and joining Congress. The Congress waited till he joined them, strung him along with the promise of a ticket and then gave it to Isidore Fernandes who is being promoted by Babush Monserrate. Pai Khot is now caught between a rock and a hard place. Vijai Sardesai who was certain he was going to get the Congress ticket in Fatorda found to his dismay his ticket given to M K Shaikh. Now he is warning Goans of the dangers of a few families of the Congress taking over the state. He is going to stand as an Independent. About the few families taking over the state is a real and present danger. The Rane duo of Pratapsing and Vishwajit will have control over 8 constituencies if their protegees win. The Alemaos will have four constituencies, maybe five is Reginaldo wins. Monserrate will have Mayem if Rudresh Chodankar wins, Canacona if Isidore Fernandes wins, Taleigao, if his wife wins, Cumbharjua if Pandurang Madkaikar wins, Priol if Madkaikar's brother Dhaku wins and the Santa Cruz constituency if he wins. That is six constituencies. 19 seats between the Monserrates, Ranes and Alemaos. Now Goa's fate lies in the hands of the voters. Literally. Source: http://www.targetgoa.com/newsd-Ranes-Alemaos-and-Monserrates-could-control-19-constituencies-3446 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Save Goa from Self-centered Politicians
Please Save Goa, From Sandeep Heble and the Fascist saffron Hitlerism imposing, moral Police and other fundamentalist groups, Political and Social that he and others are supporting. Down with Imposition of any culture. Down with tinkering with Religious and Cultural Freedom Stand up for Cultural Freedom in equal measure for all communities. Nascy Caldeira From: Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012 4:20 AM Subject: [Goanet] Save Goa from Self-centered Politicians The Congress High Command has apparently given the 'Supari' of Panjim constituency seat to Babush. Babush is expected to receive hundreds if not thousands of crores of rupees as part of the bargain in the process. Hundreds and thousands of crores because that is the price Goa will have to pay for the destruction of fields, agriculture, landscapes, greenery and every square inch of land were he to succeed in his evil and nefarious designs. Despite being severely indicted in the IT Report for large scale land conversions, Babush has managed to have his way with the high command and has secured a sizeable number of Assembly tickets for himself and his larger family which includes his wife and quite a few of his other cronies. The Panaji Assembly ticket has gone to his hand-picked Mayor Yatin Parekh, an elected representative who in the last 6 years - first as a Deputy and now as Mayor of the CCP - has allowed a beautiful city to rot and deteriorate. Who has allowed all sorts of scams and frauds and illegalities to persist and thrive in the CCP. Who has treated the city in a step motherly manner by diverting funds meant for the beautification and development of the capital city for the benefit and welfare of Taleigao. The Monserrates and the Ranes and the Alemaos are all set to capture the reigns of our beautiful state and Goa will be gone forever were we not to vote decisively against them and all their other cronies in the forthcoming Assembly Elections. Goa must be saved and your vote can make a difference. Will you? Sandeep Heble Panaji-Goa --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Why this Kolaveri di on family raj?
Goa's politics lay captured for 50 years by caste dynasty politics that has only resulted in Goa's decadence while the few raped and looted. These rotten politicians were groomed by this very caste dynasty that remote controlled politics in Goa. Now that controls are feared to be slipping out from their hands they are inciting Goans against the new family raj. It's all about one beggar envying another. Can Goans not see who has actually looted the state in proxy by installing thugs and extortionists in power. Why all this Kolaverri di on family raj? -Soter --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goan Character Test - 3rd March 2012
3rd March 12 will go down in Goan History as the true character test for Goans. Will we be true to our respective religious teachings in temples, churches, mosques and vote out the Anti Goans tainted with corruption, all sorts of criminality, destruction of environment, smuggling, drugs trade, prostitution etc. Will we vote and use our vote wisely and not succumb to money, favours etc from the politicians/families using funds from corruption? Will we think of the future of our children and our beautiful land. What do you want to be proud off; Trying to save Goa and our society or be part of its destruction? Are our votes so cheap that we can be taken for granted by those politicians, now bringing in their wives, daughters sons, so as to worsen the pathetic state of Governance in Goa. Goans our future is in our hands, take a courageous stand on 3rd March 2012. I will be in Goa specially on this day to Vote for Goa, what will you do? Arwin Mesquita, UAE. -- Please post your comments on my Blog: http://goanidentity.blogspot.com/ Please also see below: 1. Benaulim Village Action Committee: http://www.bvacbenaulim.blogspot.com/ 2. Rape of Goa : http://www.parrikar.com/blog/the-rape-of-goa/ 3. MAND - an adivasi-rights resource centre : http://mandgoa.blogspot.com/ 4. EVERY GOAN SHOULD SEE THIS VIDEO: http://infochangeindia.org/Infochange-documentary.html 5. Goa's Identity Movement group on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com//#/group.php?gid=193497031686 6. Official Government Site NRI Office (GOA): http://www.globalgoans.org.in/ --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] keith vaz's wrong step
Has the British MP Keith Vaz lost his political bearings? He is in India to repair the India-Britain relationship and he should be doing just that. Instead, he is in Goa and unnecessarily getting involved in local politics. What was the need to go to Valanka Alemao's election campaign and give his vote for her? I feel Vaz would lose lot of goodwill that Goans in Goa are having for him. With so much political knowledge and experience, Keith should have kep away from playing partisan politics. He has bigger issues to tackle on the India-Britain front instead of giving his valuable time to support certain candidates, or perhaps just Valanka. If he is in Goa for a brief holiday, then he should be resting. Shocking indeed, to say the least. Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Mathany's time to shed religious barriers
What a display from Mathany of political opportunism and selfishness? The common people have no religious barriers. It is politicians who install barriers and remove them depending on their politicial convenience and requirements. Shedding religious barriers is about unconditional respect for the human rights of citizens from other faiths. It cannot be achieved by covert manipulations towards one nation with one religion, one language and one culture. English taught at primary level in Bhatikar's Model English School cannot be considered patriotic while the same English being taught at primary level in diocesan schools becomes anti-national. Mathany first needs to uproot those religious barriers solidly installed within the BJP before advising the public. Giving party tickets to christians in non-BJP dominated bastions is about political convenience and opportunism but not necessarily respect for other faiths. - Soter D'souza --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] keith vaz's wrong step
After I posted my view on Keith Vaz, I read his interview on Navhind Times. Here is one question he answers: -- Q: Are you aware of the upcoming assembly elections? A: Yes, but I don’t want to get into it. That is because, as an individual with links to this place, and also a regular visitor, I know a lot of people here. The people who are standing in politics are also known to me personally. So, no getting into that. --- So my questions to Keith Vaz are Which devil made you go against your decision and be present at Valanka's meeting? Does he not seem like you are endorsing her? Seems like Keith is a true politician who eats his own words. Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goa and the Challenge of the New - Amitav Ghosh
http://amitavghosh.com/blog/?p=2386 Goa and the Challenge of the New February 12, 2012 [This is an edited version of an address delivered in Panjim, Goa, on the 50th anniversary of the events that led to Goa’s incorporation into the Indian union, in December 1961.] It is truly an extraordinary privilege for me to be here today, with so many friends, old and new. It is a privilege particularly because this is, as we know, a special moment for Goa – the 50th anniversary of a very significant event in its history, an event that marked the end of an era that began before the arrival of the Mughals and lasted until modern times. As someone who spends a lot of time daydreaming about history I often wonder about the unrealized possibilities that lie embedded in the past. What would have happened for example, if the Portuguese dictator, Salazar, had seen the writing on the wall and granted Goa its independence in the 1950s? Would that independence have then become a fait accompli, establishing Goa as in independent nation? Or was the post-independence euphoria of that time so strong that Goa would have been pulled into the Indian orbit anyway, either through a Sikkim-style annexation, or perhaps even by its own accord, through a popular vote? The latter may seem like an unlikely possibility today, but the 1950s and 60s were a different moment in time – a moment when Egypt voted for union with Syria, and Kuwait with Iraq. Perhaps a better question is: what difference would it have made? Would there have been less corruption, less construction, less mining in Goa today if Salazar had taken that fateful step? In the public commemoration of history certain dates are treated as if they represented absolute and irreversible breaks with the past. But history is a mighty river and its course is not easily changed. Within the Indian subcontinent certain patterns and continuities seem to persist irrespective of boundaries, dates and disjunctions. I remember once being taken to a hill above Kathmandu. The valley below was a vast lake of smog and pollution, filled with the clamour of Tata trucks, Tempos and three-wheelers. I remember thinking: Nepal didn’t need to go down this path; it’s a different country isn’t it? Why didn’t they choose a better way? I remember my first visit to Pakistan. From the air the outskirts of Lahore looked exactly like the suburbs of New Delhi. The airport was no different either; the walls had the same paan-stains and there was the same pervasive smell of urine. I said to myself: But they embraced free-market capitalism while in India we were socialists of some kind. Why do so many things look the same in spite of that? One thing that unites the Indian subcontinent is that we make many of the same mistakes: another is that certain traits endure. Our tastes, our injustices, our eccentricities – they endure in every corner of this landmass. Yet, even as they endure they are refracted into startlingly different configurations. There is an analogy here with Indian classical music. The notes of a raga are always the same, yet its realization is always unique, unrepeatable: the music exists only in the moment, in improvisation. Of no part of the subcontinent is this more true than of Goa. When I look around me here I see things that are distantly familiar, from Bengal or Kerala or North India – and yet something is elusive; there are elements from places far beyond our horizons; there is always something surprising, something new. I remember the first time I encountered the familiar Goan gesture of greeting, where, after shaking your hand people will touch their fingertips to their hearts. I was astonished – for this seems to me a quintessentially Arab gesture. And indeed the Arab world is everywhere in Goa – it is after all, only on the other side of the pond. The taxi driver who brought me here tonight speaks Arabic; sometimes we use it as a secret language. In Panjim I have heard young Goans arguing with each other in Arabic – they had perhaps grown up in the Gulf. Here is something at once very old and very new. Nothing is more difficult to recognize than the new; and nowhere is it more difficult to recognize it than in Goa, where the past has such a weighty presence. We know very well, from the history of modernism in the arts, that the challenge of the new is often met with bewilderment and anger, confusion and outrage. This history is, I think, repeating itself in relation to Goa: it seems to me that in this instance the anxiety of the new has given birth to something that might be called a narrative of dystopia. There are many strands to this narrative. One is a prelapsarian strand and it is woven largely by Goans themselves – or at least by those who look back in longing upon one or the other of many pasts. In comparison with those lost Edens the Goa of today seems irretrievably fallen: it is difficult to see anything of value in its present aspect. Another strand is
Re: [Goanet] families raj an affront to Goans
Eugene Correia wrote: The 49-0 option has been available for votes in previous elections but the number of voters who took advantage of it is low. In the recent Tamil Nadu elections, a little more than 25,000 voters excersised this option. -- Will Eugene Correia please substantiate this statistic of 'more than 25,000 voters'. I find no reference to this figure, or anything close to it, anywhere online or in print. Cheers! Cecil = --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] British MP (Keith Vaz) Campaigning for Corrupt Congress
Well done Keith! If NRIs who do not understand the real root of the problems in Goa can insist on promoting a divisive and distractive agenda of casteist and corporate dynasty, then Keith Vaz is within his right to support the Alemao family or o called Family dynasty. If some can inist that corruption, family rule and mining are the major problems, then other Goans are also within their right to believe that communal and casteist politics is more important. It has become a business for some to go round in circles and deviate attention from Goa's real problems to popular propaganda without caring to sit down and analyse issues closely. Soter D'souza --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] GCCI Cup Table Tennis – Ajay bags double, Bhakti, Joel, Selvyn, Vaidik, Utkarsh win
GCCI Cup Table Tennis – Ajay bags double, Bhakti, Joel, Selvyn, Vaidik, Utkarsh win Ajay Naik bagged a double crown while Bhakti Pandit successfully defended her title at the GCCI Cup Talent search Table Tennis Tournament organized by Panjim Table Tennis Club in association with Sports Authority of Goa and JCI St. Inez. In the championship finals played at Indoor Stadium, Campal, Ajay was in fine form as he stunned top seed Gary Freitas 8-11, 11-7, 11-7, 11-9, 11-7 to emerge Boys under 21 winner. Ajay with Selvn Godinho as his partner won the Under 21 doubles title, defeating the talented duo of Ashutosh Chari and Anthony George with a 11-2, 11-7, 11-8 score line. Top seed Bhakti was all business as she smashed her way to a comprehensive 11-3, 11-2, 11-3 win over her young opponent Pranali Sonawane to successfully defend her Girls under 19 title. The Under 17 Boys singles was expected to be a close contest but turned out to be a one Way Street with Joel Andrade scoring a facile 11-2, 11-6, 11-3, 14-12 win over Selvyn Godinho who appeared to be just not in his elements in the finals. Meanwhile, Vaidik Shrivastav and Utkarsh Shivani registered contrasting wins to emerge champions in the Under 12 Boys and Girls events respectively. While Vaidik had it easy against Mandar Joshi winning 11-9, 11-8, 11-4; the girls event went the full distance with Utkarsh finally prevailing over a fighting Arya Gawas to win 13-11, 8-11, 11-8, 5-11, 11-3 in five tight sets. Prizes were later distributed. Prutha Parrikar and Yash Ghanekar won ‘promising Player’ prizes. Third place prizes were bagged by Sacchi Pai Kane and Akshta Nair(U12 Girls), Shaun Araujo and Saurabh Molio(U12 Boys), Gaurav Raikar and Kewal Tahmankar(U17 Boys), Aditi Dharwadkar and Sabia Shaikh(U19 Girls), Selvyn Godinho and Anang Mahanto(U21 Boys) and Kalpesh Bandodkar/ Gaurav Raikar and Joel Andrade/ Jophilip George(U21 Boys Doubles). The ‘Outstanding Young Player’ Award 2012, instituted in the fond memory of former TT Player Jyothi Panvelkar, was awarded to talented youngster Rutuj Sonawane. Chief Guest Kirit Maganlal(Treasurer, GCCI), Subhash Kolwalkar(TT Coach), R. S. Kamat(Director, GCCI), Chetan Kavlekar(President, Panjim TT Club), Raimundo Fernandes(President, JCI St. Inez), Sandeep Heble(Secretary, Panjim TT Club) and Ajit Ghantker(former State TT Champion) graced the occasion. The championship was conducted by Coaches Irwin Cordo and Noel Estebeiro. Photographs available at: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.3262699804823.157733.1187066172type=1l=548bcb733b Yours sincerely Sandeep Heble Secretary, Panjim Table Tennis Club 9326129171 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Rapes and pornography
Probably Anil was in such a hurry to hit the send button snub Marshall, that he forgot who the author is of the said article; which Petronella forwarded to goanet, she has also put quote - unquote No need to say horrible BJP, everybody knows that already! Who is Patricia? Did she write this?? I thought this article was by Madhu Chandra:-) From where did minorities pop in.. No girls are named so can be from any community, but the rapist seem to be from the Hindu community (Amit, Manoj) hAVE a nICE dAY Seb Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 19:27:26 + From: anil desai anild...@gmail.com Dear Petronella, I am shocked that you should write such an inflammatory article about a state like Delhi ruled by Kangress party. Could you not find a state ruled by that horrible BJP and claim that all this crime was against minorities. Have you forgotten that there are elections to be held in goa next month. Next time you write such non sense, do consult Marshall Mendoza or Teesta. In Goa, we have Kangress government. We should rejoice and be happy that Dilliwalhs will make our land a true 'Eldorado'. Anil Desai Patricia wrote: Dear Fellow Goans, Here is what I received, Quote: The violence against women in Delhi, the national capital of India reported daily in national papers panics me. 2010 records of one rape case every 14 hours, molestation every 18 hours. The rape case increased 12 times more in 2011, which means one rape case every 15 hours. Among these crimes, the girls and women from North East India became easy target. Madhu Chandra www.nehelpline.net http://www.nehelpline.net/ Publication: The Times Of India Delhi; Date: Feb 11, 2012; Section: Front Page; Page: 1 CRIMINALS ON PROWL IN MOVING VEHICLES TIMES NEWS NETWORK *In two days, 2 minors forced into cars, raped TIMES NEWS NETWORK * New Delhi: The capital?s notorious mode of assault on women ? rape or molestation in a moving vehicle ? returned to shame the city, with two incidents reported in the past 48 hours. Both victims were minors. In the first incident, a 13-year-old girl was forced into a Santro car allegedly by three youths, including a minor, in Jyoti Nagar, northeast Delhi, on Thursday afternoon and raped by one of them after she snubbed their moves to strike a friendship with her. ?The victim, a class VIII student who had stepped out to the market around 2.30pm when she was abducted, reported the crime to a policeman on the road. All three accused have since been nabbed,? said additional DCP (northeast) B K S unquote: I live you to decide what will happen once we sell our lands, to Delhiwallas, to the Russians and to those who will come with come from Khandemal! We have the choice! Petronela --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Foreigners Not Allowed To Influence Voters
Foreigners Not Allowed To Influence Voters I was shocked to see a British parliamentarian trying to influence voters in Goa. Does Mr Kieth Vaz hold duel citizenship ? Foreign nationals are not allowed to influence the out come of election in another country and it is against the UN mandate for foreigners to get involved in election of another country. Mr Kieth Vaz has crossed his political and civil borders and should be arrested for meddling with our election process as an outside force meddling with our internal politics. It is no secret that Churchill Alemao and his family has had good relations with Mr. Kieth Vaz and may have hosted him at his residence in UK but family relations cannot be used to influence voters of another country. There in one very interesting common factor in the history of Kieth Vaz and that of Churchill Alemao, they both attract controversies like fleas to stale dead fish. British MP Kieth was under investigation for a number of controversial issues, like the Iraqi Nadhmi Auchi extradition issue, Hinduja brothers passport issue, the solicitor Sarosh Zaiwalla case, demanding the banning of Satanic Verses in UK, the controversial statement in the IRA attack. In some of the above cases he was charged with taking bribes to facilitate work. Does that sound familiar ? It is said that birds of the same feathers flock together so could be they are on the path of sharing strategies of how to hoodwink the general public both in Goa and UK. It is said that Kieth Vaz was born in Aden but his parents were of Goan origin who then settled in UK and thank God for that or we might have had another Churchill to deal with. Freddy Agnelo Fernandes # The content of this electronic communication is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and any others who are specifically authorized to receive it. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or otherwise placing reliance on the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful in certain legal jurisdictions. If you have received this communication in error please notify the sender immediately by responding to this email and then delete it from your system. # --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF
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[Goanet] Income-tax authorities asked to apologise to priest | The CSF
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Re: [Goanet] British MP (Keith Vaz) Campaigning for Corrupt Congress
I don't think Keith Vaz is supporting corrupt Congress per se, but must have been requested by Churchill to grace Valanka's meeting. Whether he suppors family raj or dynasty raj is not known but one must remember that Keith's sister, Valerie, is an MP too. His mother too was a municipal councillor. Politics runs in the family. By this logic, all those families who are in Goan politics can say that politics run The family raj issue can swing some votes in BJP's favour. What about BJP's alliance partnerf, MGP which also has members of same family running in the election? Only voters can break this trend. We have to wait and see. Would Keith Vaz have gone to a meeting if invited by the Dr. Hubert Gomes' camp? Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] families raj: an affront to Goans
Cecil, instead of 24,000 I said more than 25,000. Here is the part of the news report. 24,591 voters in TN opt for 49 (O) R Satyanarayana, TNN Apr 16, 2011, 03.53am IST CHENNAI: Though Tamil Nadu registered a high polling percentage, there were a number of voters who preferred to exercise the 49 (O) option and not vote for any candidate. About 24,500 voters exercised the 49 (O) option.. --- Eugene --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goa's systematic communal polarisation
I was stunned by the headlines in TOI Cong goes in for minority appeasement in final list. If Vijay of the caste dynasty gets preferred to MK Sheikh it becomes minority appeasement. If Alemao's get the ticket it becomes family raj. Then what is the appeasement of Glenn Ticlo getting the BJP ticket in Aldona? What about the family raj of the Dhavlikars in MGP? How long are goans going to tolerate this fottkirem raj? -- Soter D'Souza --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] GOA-OLDPHOTO: Goan picnic in Kenya, NBI Ball, Fatima's Margao 1962, wedding in Curtorim, CtK-Karachi, detailed colonial map...
Goans at a picnic probably in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) From the Pinto Collection, Moira. Courtesy: Augusto Pinto. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6863622049/in/photostream NBI (National Bank of India?) Ball, Kenya, East Africa, circa 1950s or 1960s http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862779839/in/photostream Fatima High School, Margao, Goa... Class of 1962 From the collection of Gilbert Menezes. Copyleft. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862776063/in/photostream A wedding in Curtorim, Goa circa 1929 From the collection of Pe Antonio Da Costa Photo of Pe Antonio's uncle's wedding in Curtorim, Salcete, Goa, circa 1929. Rosarinho da Costa, the groom, was a prominent musician and led his own orchestra, In Rangoon, in Shanghai China, Ceylon and then in Bangalore (Bengaluru). Among others, Pe Antonio's two other uncles Milagres Da Costa and Domingos Da Costa were members of this orchestra. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862774477/in/photostream Karachi, Christ the King (circa 1940s or perhaps earlier) From the collection of Menin Rodrigues . Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862772469/in/photostream Carta de Goa... A colonial time map of Goa, Belgaum and neighbouring areas. In Portuguese. Received via the Net (sorry... lost the contacts of the sender... if it was you, please get in touch so that I can credit adequately). Copyleft. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862770779/sizes/o/in/photostream/ Colonial cousins... Goan youth, pre-1961, in the uniform of the Mocidade Portuguesa. From the collection of Alfred Tavares/Stockholm. Copyleft. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. The Mocidade Portuguesa (English: Portuguese Youth) was a Portuguese youth organization under the right-wing regime of the Estado Novo. Membership was compulsory between the ages of 7 and 14, and voluntary until the age of 25. Founded in 1936 by Tiago Franco, it was originally inspired upon the model of the Italian Fascist Opera Nazionale Balilla and the Nazi Hitler Youth. However, in 1940 the Germanophile National Secretary Francisco Nobre Guedes was replaced by the Anglophile Marcelo Caetano, who gave the organization a different own orientation, withdrawing from the Hitler Youth and abandoning its paramilitary feature, approaching to the Catholic Church and other youth organizations as the Scout Movement.[1] It was dissolved in 1974, after the Carnation Revolution, being considered at that time as a Fascist organization. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mocidade_Portuguesa http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862743537/in/photostream Igreja de Aldona... year not known (original photo BW) From the Pinto Collection, Moira. Courtesy: Augusto Pinto. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6863610067/in/photostream Goan family in Uganda, 1947 (year mentioned on reverse) Noting on the reverse: To Melvyn Mendonca: Joseph, Canute, Aloysius, Thelma, Clara, Babush, and Theresa Mathias. From the Pinto Collection, Moira. Courtesy: Augusto Pinto. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6863615021/in/photostream Goans in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862809659/in/photostream Goan mother and daughter in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862807835/in/photostream Unidentified scene in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862806339/in/photostream Unidentified scene from Kenya, Colonial East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862804429/in/photostream The Pilgrim Statue visits Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862802791/in/photostream Goan family in Africa, Kenya (circa 1960s) From the Pinto Collection, Moira. Courtesy: Augusto Pinto. Creative Commons 3.0, attribution, non-commercial. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6863612725/in/photostream Goan sportspersons in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862798847/in/photostream Picnic at the waterfalls, Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862796229/in/photostream Religious function in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862794985/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862790291/in/photostream Religious procession in Kenya, East Africa (circa 1950s or 1960s) http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862792993/in/photostream Goan outing in Kenya, East Africa, 1950s or 1960s circa http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862791625/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/6862788979/in/photostream
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Panjim, Marga etc..
Beautiful view of Panjim City http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim6/6856023463/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Looks like there was a fire here..some casuarinas trees burnt http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk48/6855936963/sizes/l/in/photostream/ elections time – Nomination papers filed here http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk48/6855938403/in/photostream/ Mahiti ghar: Alternate, illegal serviceGoa? Panjim KTC http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk48/6855939637/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Laying of pipelines ? – Margao opp Ravindra Bhavan http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk48/6855942033/in/photostream/ those who go to new MArgao market or Osia Cinema etc must have seen this tower/ tank http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk48/6855942851/sizes/l/in/photostream/ A rain tree in the sky http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk48/6856016017/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Pulling each other http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk48/6856017767/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Tourist Security Force etc All part of illegal parking on pavement, courtesy ECI http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk48/6856018343/in/photostream/ All types of vehicles take advantage of ECI special parking zone From Late Dec2011 to mid March 2012 http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim6/6868874451/in/photostream Su loverboy, MH reg etc one minute video clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9I_el2_fR8 joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goa and the Challenge of the New - Amitav Ghosh
Don't blame Salazar with if's. Blame the chap who invaded Goa. BC http://amitavghosh.com/blog/?p=2386 Goa and the Challenge of the New February 12, 2012 [This is an edited version of an address delivered in Panjim, Goa, on the 50th anniversary of the events that led to Goa?s incorporation into the Indian union, in December 1961.] --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF
Sandesh, I'm not so much concerned about the urge to convert (because we're always trying to convert to people in our way of thinking, in religious and non-religious ways -- to vegetarianism, atheism, Free Software or whatever our cause...). But it is worrying indeed to see the stereotyped manner in which one religion (and cultural trend) views another, even in the 21st century. Needless to say, bigotry is not a monopoly of Christians; but I disagree strongly with the endeavour to judge someone else's religion by way of stereotypes and cliches. The report begins by saying: Prostitution is a serious problem in India, especially among the poor. Then it talks about devadasis, which, I suspect must today be at best a tiny part of the larger prostitution problem in the country. Yet, such aspects are picked on (as the British and Portuguese sometimes chose to highlight sati in colonial times) because it suits one's ideology. In any case, prostitution is as much of a problem (if not more) in all parts of the globe, regardless of religious differences. Those who dislike the Catholics will highlight the paedophilia charges against priests, and the blame-game goes on. If anything, this problem has not been sorted out in the so-called Christian West either, but is taking on more modern forms of slavery for itself FN PS: I checked the source of the report, and it comes from some place, if I understood right, calling itself Mission Network News http://mnnonline.org/ which says it all. Religions have a big job in the 21st century, of helping to create understanding among diverse people, not creating more bitterness, as this approach seems to be doing PPS: Social problems need working on from within too. In Goa, the social reform movement among the former devadasis is one of the big untold stories of our time... On 13 February 2012 16:41, Sandesh Anvekar sandeshanve...@gmail.com wrote: in the end the motive of the Church is always to convert (as always)... On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au wrote: http://persecutedchurch.info/2012/02/11/the-gospel-provides-powerful-hope-for-indias-temple-prostitutes/ --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF
Sandesh Anvekar wrote: in the end the motive of the Church is always to convert (as always)... Response: First of all, I find Sandesh Anvekar's remark absolutely loathsome. No doubt, some Goans are waiting with bated breath for the return of the BJP-ram raj so that we can look forward to 5 years of hurt sensibilities. Ignorance about the Church aside, I always find some comments faintly amusing. In the Christian dominated West, these very people have no problem at all sending their children to school where they all learn about Christ (yes, even non-religious state schools), preform in Christmas pageants and cheerfully dress up as Easter bunnies. It is only in India amidst a population of 1.2 billion, where 2.3% are Christians, that they feel so threatened by the Church and so-called conversions. It is attitudes such as these that will effectively assure India's place perpetually in the Dark Ages. Strangely, no amount of middle-class prosperity in India seems to be eradicating these attitudes which puts paid to the theory that affluence and education are the best criteria for progress. Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] ST. JOSEPH’S CONVENT SCHOOL, KARACHI RE-UNION
ST. JOSEPH’S SCHOOL RE-UNION As St. Joseph’s School is celebrating its sesquicentennial Anniversary (1862-1912) in March, the school has had various programmes throughout the year marking this milestone. St. Joseph’s School Re-union was held at the school premises on Sat. February 11, 2012 inviting all old –students who completed school prior to 1995. Around 200 – 250 teachers, nuns and alumni attended. Ms. Faiza Kazi was the compere for the evening. It started with Sr. Julie Pacheco, the headmistress saying a short prayer. Sr. Margaret and Sr. Olive each read out Reflections and then all joined in for a hymn “I thank my God”. Two young teachers kept us entertained with songs accompanied by musicians on the tabla, harmonium and violin. A short Power Point presentation on the school was also presented. As spouses were invited as well, there were a few gentlemen present, but in all this was a ladies affair. Everyone was thrilled to meet old classmates and teachers. Some catching up with each other after 30-40 years. News was exchanged alongwith telephone nos. email addresses etc. and promises to keep in touch. The oldest Josephine present was Sr. Dolores Anne who finished school in 1941. She attended St. Joseph’s from 1932-41, and later went on to serve many terms as Principal. There was a lucky draw on the invitation cards and a few lucky ladies walked away with gifts baskets with Ms. Kazi winning the first prize – dinner for two. On entering every lady received a gift bag containing a SJC memorial mug, Vellose’s famous milk toffees (which brought back fond memories), a cloth bag with SJC monogram, postcards made from the paintings from the art class, a SJC keychain and pen and the most prized possession was a placemat with the school picture on it. During dinner one of the senior Cambridge students entertained us with a very apt song “Yesterday Once More” by the Carpenters. The evening closed with a prayer and a hymn led by Sr. Margaret. This was indeed a very joyous evening and our sincere thanks go out to Sr. Julie and the faculty of St. Josephs for putting together this event. Goretti Ali nee D’Souza Class of ‘77 __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) RECENT ACTIVITY: Visit Your Group Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goa, RIP
When I have written Goa, RIP, in the past on this forum, it is clear that I am referring to the political set-up in Goa and not to the rest of Goan society which is generally wonderful (food, music, culture, art, music, literature, etc.). Just wanted to make that clear before some sensitive soul with low self-esteem defensively writes some nonsense about critical NRGs, life in America, etc. This is a Goa forum, hence the Goa mention. With that in mind, the upcoming elections mean little since Goa's coffin has already been nailed shut by the policies of the two national parties in the last 15 years. Let the Goan corpse lie, we have disrespected the motherland enough by raping the soil for mining and then urinating and defecating through mega-project development. At best now we can hope that a few ethical independents get elected to rattle the grave and resurrect a new Goa. For some in Goa it will soon be Easter and a religious resurrection. For all of Goa, we must remain optimistic for a political resurrection. Regards, George --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Raiding priest: Why this Kolaveri..
Raiding priest: Why this Kolaveri.. Somehow, I feel, the above incidence has unnecessarily blown out of proportion. Haven’t we read or heard that IT officials or Police officers for that matter, raided someone’s residence only to find nothing all? If they didn’t find what they were looking for, all they have to do is say ‘sorry..we were only doing our duty’ We may be lawyers, engineers, teachers, politicians etc but we are ‘Citizens’ first and as such all citizens are subject to the same law. Let us not make exceptions on the basis of religion, caste, tribe etc. Or else, there be others who take advantage of the situation and may use their religious premises as a hub for storing material meant for terrorism etc Get on with your work and let them do theirs. Innocents have nothing to fear. Extra: Where is the ‘forgiveness’? We should be learning about it from the godmen themselves. But ref.various news items with pics (see blog), it looks like the priest has firmly put his foot down rather the parishioners as reported. For more – My point of view.. http://joegoauk-pointofview.blogspot.in/2012/02/raiding-priest-why-this-kolaveri.html Talking about the priests.. Haven’t we heard or seen some priests known for amassing wealth for themselves, their families (including mistresses if any)? Haven’t we heard some priests owning properties, flats, cars, two wheelers etc? Haven’t we heard some priest lending money? Haven’t we heard about the 80 lakhs found at one priest’s Church residence? Haven’t be heard or read of some priests who are into donating (donation out of donation?) Haven’t we heard of some priest involved in politics and openly supporting their favourite political parties and candidates? So, why this rage? I mean, why this Kolaveri..? This incidence should not stop any one from reporting poll related misdeeds in you area. No matter who the person is, just report it (see 1950 below) but at the same time let us use the service sensibly i.e. no hoax calls, no peronal vendetta etc blog http://joegoauk-pointofview.blogspot.in/2012/02/raiding-priest-why-this-kolaveri.html It reminds me of a London incident.. We just got off the bus and walking in the street leading to our homes (half a km from bus stop). We were carrying large chained/leather bags. Mine was bigger than the other neighbour. Suddenly, a speeding police car from behind stopped right in front of us. ‘Sorry, we need to search your bag (my bag only).. there is theft in the city, the information we got fitted your description’. Go on then (I submitted myself, my bag I mean). It took him only few seconds to search because all he found inside the bag was grocery items like fruits and vegitables and no shoplifted item they were looking for. They did apologise..but then I said ‘don't worry, I understand, you were only doing your job’. I could moan about them harassing me or discriminating on ethnic grounds though! thank god, BJP is not ruling or else, 'Raiding priest' would have been definitely added to the existing infamous list of SFX, Good Friday etc joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
Matanhy and BJP As expected, Matanhy’s door to door campaign has been carefully scrutinized and critics will always see his joining hands with BJP, an excuse to paint him with the saffron brush. This is exactly what the so called ‘secular’ hypocrisy is all about. Most of the the present Congress MLAs have at some point in time, had close ties with the BJP, but our ‘secularist’ will choose not to make a mention. They will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ‘secular’ Congress headed by Digubab. Interestingly, every scam of the Congress government whether it is illegal Mining, Regional plan, SEZ, Cidade de Goa ordinance etc., is brushed under the carpet during elections by the so called ‘secularist’. It is true that, Matanhy joining the BJP has sent shivers in the Congress ranks and upset the so called secularist, but Goans at large must welcome this as a very positive and prudent move that can bring about unity between both Christian and Hindu communities, which till date remain polarised as a result of years of Congress misrule. While the Congress has plundered and sold Goa, it’s Party chief Sonia Gandhi has lied to the electorate at the last election on Special status and now, has unleashed the same bunch of powerful thieves along with their families to consolidate their territories for the final assault on mother Goa. On the other hand, the BJP has atleast acknowledged mistakes of the past and with more representatives of the Catholic community joining its ranks, will have to rethink its attitude towards the minority community, which is positive for Goa. It is stupid to even think that Matanhy will embrace RSS ideology or blindly follow any ill conceived policies of the Party as alleged by some. Matanhy is a shrewd man with a strong mind of his own, capable of influencing others towards his own vision for Goa. Goa stands a much better chance to bring about a Lokayukta and even Special Status under BJP than under any Congress Government which is totally anti Goan. Our good friend Rupert Coutinho has censured Matanhy, and with a long list of questions, but one can condone his ignorance of Matanhy’s achievements, both as an activist and as a politician over the last 40 years. Just to point out one example : SEZ in Goa was stopped only when Matanhy gave an ultimatum to the Digamber Kamat led Government not so long ago. It has always been Matanhy’s style not to trumpet his achievements, but it is time to make known that Matanhy opposed tooth and nail the idea of cancelation of Good Friday and many other policy decisions when he was part of the BJP Government. Mr. Coutinho being in UAE is unaware that Matanhy has joined the BJP on the advice of his supporters in Cortalim constituency which itself speaks volumes of grassroot support and development in the area during his tenure. Anybody can book Matanhy for sins of omission, but not for corruption and opportunism as alleged by Rupert Coutinho and if that was the case, Matanhy could have easily joined the Congress years ago, when then Union Minister Eduardo Faleiro invited him to join. More recently Matanhy could have hopped into the Congress Party for plumb post when the last BJP Government was toppled and become a crorepati like any other Congress MLA. It surprised me that Coutinho has not raised any questions of accountability to the Christao leaders of Salcette who are busy plundering and looting Goa, some for the last 30 odd years, while the city of Margao stinks. With little choice at the disposal of electorate at this crucial election, which is ‘make or break’, and based on the current scenario of candidates, one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years. Geraldo Oliveira --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Pratapsingh Rane campaigns Door to -door for the first time -- From the Oherald online edition
Will Rane make it again? This time around he's campaigning like never before in Poirem.Probably this is the first time Speaker Pratapsing Rane has been compelled to do some campaigning in his bastion Poriem, since he appears to be taken aback by aggressive campaigning by BJP's youth wing. BJP’s Vishwajit K Rane has been visiting households in Poriem constituency to unseat Rane Senior who has remained undefeated for the last 40 years. Rane senior who was never seen doing door-to-door campaign in the past elections for a change is also seen these days visiting some houses in his constituency. Needless to say the humble folks of Poriem are pleasantly surprised to see Khashe at their door steps. http://www.heraldgoa.in/News/Main%20Picture%20News/Pratapsingh-Rane-campaigns-Door-to-door-for-the-first-time/56789.html --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF
To Goanet - Selma Carvalho wrote: First of all, I find Sandesh Anvekar's remark absolutely loathsome. No doubt, some Goans are waiting with bated breath for the return of the BJP-ram raj so that we can look forward to 5 years of hurt sensibilities. Someone from the 'other' side takes a Nascy-esque piddle and the deep thinkers of Goanet begin stirring in their nests (gated, one hopes). I find it absolutely hilarious that Selma Carvalho finds something absolutely loathsome. Selma Carvalho, the authoress of the an entire generation of Hindus are brought up to hate Catholics (my paraphrase ) masterpiece. There are, of course, things that have happened just in the past few weeks that are absolutely loathsome. Like the attack on the priest who is contesting an election, the IT raid on another priest, the murder and theft at the Christian Art Museum. Shame on that vile Manohar Parrikar and his communal BJP-RSS-Hindutva government for failing to protect the Catholic community. If only the Selma Carvalho's beloved Kangress were in power right now, none of this would have happened. Oh, wait a minute... r --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF
I understand the position of both the so-called Catholic-Christian Secular Forum (CSF) and Sandesh Anvekar in the following posts in this thread: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2012-February/218517.html http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2012-February/218523.html Despite its name, the CSF is not a secular forum. It is a Catholic propaganda outfit as much as the Hindu Janajagruti Samiti is a Hindu propaganda outfit. So it is understandable that it would want to point out the flaws in the Hindu religion, and offer the Christian gospel as the answer. Similarly, Sandesh appears to be a devout Hindu who is understandably offended by the anti-Hindu propaganda of CSF. He is lashing out against the CSF in response, and may also be overly paranoid about his fellow Hindus being converted to Christianity. Neither the CSF nor Sandesh are a threat to India or to progress, any more than the religious right in the U.S. and Europe are to their own countries because of their Islamophobia. I therefore disagree with the one-sided overreaction of Goanet Administrator Noronha and Goanetter Selma below. Cheers, Santosh - Original Message - From: Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com Sandesh, I'm not so much concerned about the urge to convert (because we're always trying to convert to people in our way of thinking, in religious and non-religious ways -- to vegetarianism, atheism, Free Software or whatever our cause...). But it is worrying indeed to see the stereotyped manner in which one religion (and cultural trend) views another, even in the 21st century. Needless to say, bigotry is not a monopoly of Christians; but I disagree strongly with the endeavour to judge someone else's religion by way of stereotypes and cliches. Original Message - From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com Sandesh Anvekar wrote: in the end the motive of the Church is always to convert (as always)... Response: First of all, I find Sandesh Anvekar's remark absolutely loathsome. No doubt, some Goans are waiting with bated breath for the return of the BJP-ram raj so that we can look forward to 5 years of hurt sensibilities. Ignorance about the Church aside, I always find some comments faintly amusing. In the Christian dominated West, these very people have no problem at all sending their children to school where they all learn about Christ (yes, even non-religious state schools), preform in Christmas pageants and cheerfully dress up as Easter bunnies. It is only in India amidst a population of 1.2 billion, where 2.3% are Christians, that they feel so threatened by the Church and so-called conversions. It is attitudes such as these that will effectively assure India's place perpetually in the Dark Ages. Strangely, no amount of middle-class prosperity in India seems to be eradicating these attitudes which puts paid to the theory that affluence and education are the best criteria for progress. Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India?s temple prostitutes | The CSF
My personal opinion on Anvedka’s response is that its his straightforward opinion, an not complex analysis. He is saying what he sees fit and should best and respectfully be accepted at that. Meaning, he shows us what he believes is the motive of the Church—which I gather to mean the Catholic Chrch, as in Roman HQ at the Vatican. If its is worth anyone while: point out what the Church in India is/is about, as in the differentiation between the Church (as in Catholic) and other churches which are often seen as the same, and conveniently too. That there are Baptists, Adventist, Presbyterians, etc. Then there are the Orthodox Churches. In India the Syrian Church —Malankara Mar Thoma *Syrian Churc, Jacobites…This has to be made clear. * * * *Then one has to understand what is hope and what it means/implies to different people--class, religiosity, etc; including even what it is that ones hopes for, when a child is sent to a Catholic school (Of course all non-Christians do not send their children to RC schools), then one has to see what is it about conversion that rankles. Does one believe a forced conversion to be a true conversion (a turning back on what one believes holds ones own being together). * * * *Does it dilutes ones spiritual or social inheritance? And is the Catholic Church in India doing this and even if so what is it that gets into ones craw.* **The Catholic Church in India is quite different in that its overarching trajectory as I see it is does not appear to be conversion. And even if it was that is a horrific fear to live with at the very least for the balanced Hindu, one who is also well-off, groomed, successful. There are entire villages (unless people, her to mean the Christian writers are unaware of) where not a single inhabitant has got/sought/ or been converted, but the priests have done shall we say phenomenal community service in the areas of irrigation, agriculture, schooling (no Hail Mary, nothing). Hope is hope and the above is still a story of hope--no conversions. For the record, I see myself as a Hindu Christian but am not interested in sharing any insight on my trajectory. The Christ is my opinion is living in the Hindu, but few Hindus realize this, and very few Christians see the Christ in their neighbors. This is not some high theological construct; its simply is a way of living Christian tenets which are available to all, and having the ability/ concern to see. and seek in the devadasi or anyone maligned.scorned. The devadasi by any stretch of imagination are hardly esteemed these days: most see them as fallen person, others do not use their services (times have changed) and gone is that way of acknowledging the other as Thou (see Martin Buber). Best all. venantius j pinto Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:41:59 +0530 From: Sandesh Anvekar sandeshanve...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India?s temple prostitutes | The CSF in the end the motive of the Church is always to convert (as always)... On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au wrote: http://persecutedchurch.info/2012/02/11/the-gospel-provides-powerful-hope-for-indias-temple-prostitutes/ --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Goa news for February 14, 2012
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Rebels galore in Congress for Goa assembly polls - Hindustan Times lection-2012-rebels-galore-in-congress-for-goa-polls/articleshow/11869165.cmsAssembly Election 2012: Rebels galore in Congress for Goa polls http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFeDB1tNTsVvE3tdUlikJPlVJJOSAurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Goa/Rebels-galore-in-Congress-for-Goa-assembly-polls/Article1-810599.aspx *** Trinamool in Goa like mushroom in monsoon: Cong - IBNLive.com merged Trinamool Congress in Goa to a mushroom growing in the monsoon, saying the party had just come up at the height of the electoral season and would not have much impact. http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNFSq-sG9MagVjmn2KPSPWYtfbJLKQurl=http://ibnlive.in.com/news/trinamool-in-goa-like-mushroom-in-monsoon-cong/229903-37-170.html *** Proving their Metal - Chandigarh Newsline andigarh NewslineBut Aryan, Varun Dayal, Rohit Sharma, Rishab Mahajan and Samarth Trehan have made Delhi proud as their metal band has just won an award at the finals of the prestigious Channel V Launchpad IndiaFest in Goa. Scythus #148; one of two shortlisted Delhi bands ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHuSN34jnJLncIfVrohwZx7qcvPqwurl=http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/proving-their-metal/911043/ *** Goa's power player game for third stint as CM - Hindustan Times orner-onethird-of-cong-tickets-in-goa/229057-37-170.htmlFamilies corner one-third of Cong tickets in Goa http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGzTQ75jCEUUzEmTR182lgtv_U2Pgurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/Goa/Goa-s-power-player-game-for-third-stint-as-CM/Article1-810481.aspx *** Goa Assembly Election 2012: BJP woos elderly, women ahead of polls - Economic Times GP hold joint rally in temple town http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEcCzkiNW-NIxbauvRPH6j3ZBTgZQurl=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/goa-assembly-election-2012-bjp-woos-elderly-women-ahead-of-polls/articleshow/11869606.cms *** Gold Anomaly Limited (ASX:GOA) Intersected Extensive New Gold Mineralised Zone ... - Yahoo!7 News (ABN Newswire) - Gold Anomaly Limited (ASX:GOA.AX - News) is pleased to announce the results for its latest drill hole NEV031. NEV031 was drilled to test the northeast extension of the mixing zone mineralisation where ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNEKT2SNRlQCrghcbDrvm9UV2WBEcgurl=http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/gold-anomaly-limited-asx-goa-231015265.html *** Valentine's Day India: Goa most romantic - Indian Express ontinent, where Paris was the most desired destination for romance abroad. Over 800 people voted in the ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNHcXYvzlembqnOfWSb9lP77h3nD6wurl=http://www.indianexpress.com/news/valentines-day-india-goa-most-romantic/911543/ *** City pimp held in Goa - Deccan Chronicle ff, the Anjuna police in North Goa has arrested one T. Soni alias Sonia, 30, from Hyderabad for running a sex racket. The police sources said that Sonia would advertise for girls to work as extras in the Telugu film industry and later ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH5LIHvxVQ5BXa6tnBRLgt1r68WjAurl=http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/hyderabad/city-pimp-held-goa-874 *** Uphill or downhill, Goa / Karnataka on 4A - Times of India (blog) amed beach in Goa. Rose is a shade over 2 years old. We are on NH 4A. There in the jungle, Kate asks me, as Jon looks on in that pleasant way which ex-shippies have when they come ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNH69qEA1DT41A_f9fUTPdicr2Zstwurl=http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Diary-of-a-Divorced-Delhi-Male/entry/uphill_or_downhill_goa_karnataka_on_4a *** In Goa, the future's as bright as the notes are high - Times of India rofessional singers whose enthusiasm and spirit matched those of their senior counterparts ...a class= http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=tfd=Rusg=AFQjCNGAdFOEPQj4E_30GYTR5Ahs_QpsAAurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/In-Goa-the-futures-as-bright-as-the-notes-are-high/articleshow/1186.cms Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Explosion by New Delhi's Israeli Embassy - Photo Essays - TIME
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Re: [Goanet] Ranes, Alemaos and Monserrates, could control 19 constituencies
Dear all Goans, Any strategy is valid to keep the saffron Communalists and Fascists out of power and thus avoid a Third World war, that will be unleashed on India if any Indian Hindu Fascist (mainly BJP) group ever comes to power. Corruption is a common factor in Indian Polity and Indian Life; but Communalism and Fascism (Hitlerism) the worst kind is a strategic thrust factor for the BJP. They can only thrive on that. They do NOT have Good Policy for All Indians, all Indian Cultures. They want only saffron swastika Raj for themselves, not for all Indians. It is written thus in their constitution! Communalism and Hitlerism is identifiable only with the BJP, the RSS, the Sangh Parivar, the Bajrang Dal, the Senas etc. No end to these groups coming up every day, with their Assault on our modern Culture. These groups are spoiling the Fair Name of India all over the world. No modern Indian can walk proud with head held high, because of these saffronite (bloodied red) colours. Now is the Time! Shun them all to Kala Pani, the Andaman Islands, to live and die there. Why? Because they do not know : How to Live and Let live, in Freedom and Harmony. Nascy Caldeira From: Sandeep Heble sandeephe...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012 12:00 PM Subject: [Goanet] Ranes, Alemaos and Monserrates, could control 19 constituencies Ranes, Alemaos and Monserrates, could control 19 constituencies 2012-02-13 There are so many disgruntled Congressmen flouncing out, resigning from the party and standing as Independent candidates. They are doing this for two reasons. Since the Congress will not be funding their campaign, all they will do is play spoiler for the Congress. If they win, they will definitely rejoin the Congress as did Vishwajit Rane, Churchill Alemao, Reginald Lourenco and Babush Monserrate in the fullness of time, using the rejoining as an opportunity to drive home a good bargain. If they stand to lose and only play spoiler, eating into the votebase of the Congress party, they could bargain with the Congress to withdraw from the hustings at a price. Right now everything is in a state of flux, with both Congress and BJP. Vijay Pai Khot is feeling like all kinds of a fool after leaving the BJP and joining Congress. The Congress waited till he joined them, strung him along with the promise of a ticket and then gave it to Isidore Fernandes who is being promoted by Babush Monserrate. Pai Khot is now caught between a rock and a hard place. Vijai Sardesai who was certain he was going to get the Congress ticket in Fatorda found to his dismay his ticket given to M K Shaikh. Now he is warning Goans of the dangers of a few families of the Congress taking over the state. He is going to stand as an Independent. About the few families taking over the state is a real and present danger. The Rane duo of Pratapsing and Vishwajit will have control over 8 constituencies if their protegees win. The Alemaos will have four constituencies, maybe five is Reginaldo wins. Monserrate will have Mayem if Rudresh Chodankar wins, Canacona if Isidore Fernandes wins, Taleigao, if his wife wins, Cumbharjua if Pandurang Madkaikar wins, Priol if Madkaikar's brother Dhaku wins and the Santa Cruz constituency if he wins. That is six constituencies. 19 seats between the Monserrates, Ranes and Alemaos. Now Goa's fate lies in the hands of the voters. Literally. Source: http://www.targetgoa.com/newsd-Ranes-Alemaos-and-Monserrates-could-control-19-constituencies-3446 --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] two in the family
Family members as representatives Is it the policy of every National or regional political party to limit representations to two members in the family ? why do we hold only Congress to this self imposed norm, to be used at their discretion? . Is it binding legally on the people to demand enforcement and hold against them? Does the norm applicable to the immediate family or to the extended family? One does not hear about Sonia Ghandi and Rahul Gandhi flouting this norm. If it does not apply to the leaders of the Party, why should we complain about others Every individual has the democratic right to aspire ,be it daughter , son, wife. All those who have been officially granted party tickets will be successful winners?Do we have only and exclusively have the right to criticise such an exercise? Who will finally vote them in office once, twice, thrice and for years to gether as the representatives of the people?How can the candidates force any one to vote for them, except persuade the voters.? If the voters do not reject them are the candidates presenting themselves to be blamed ? what prevents vocal votaries in presenting themselves as potential candidates , enter the fray, a la Fr Bismark, if they consider themselves as worthy, then please enter the field. The election of independents is an indicator, that the party label is not the sure bet. We understand that party supports candidates in election campaign, but we also know that they buy their tickets, contribute to party funds and have money and muscle power to conduct the campaign costing a bomb and assure their party of win ability to contribute to the numbers needed to form the govt. The management of election process needs experience and workers and they are demanding a stiff price for their services. Let us not forget the the roleof the money power favouring election outcomes Those who can beat the frugal expenditure can be counted. Sitting candidates have the advantage of cultivating throughout, their constituencies interests and others are at a clear disadvantage at his juncture, as the indebted voters would like to gratefully redeem their debts and will not be swayed by propaganda and change goal posts by promises and intelligent thinking. What is the reason then of most unworthy candidates with criminal records, illiterates making it to the finish line with great vote difference?One example that comes to my mind is the election of Adv, Uday Bembre based on merit alone and such an exercise is not repeated even by himself subsequently PATRICK FRENCH recent book India ,A Portrait offers statistical ,startling revelation of family representatives in Indian parliament We must congratulate those who have the courage and conviction to offer themselves as an alternative choice, knowing the limitations and uncertainty and taking risks to enforce their Democratic right Those arm chair specialists ensconced in their ivory towers, suggesting high sounding theories are left licking their wounds of their intellectual pride , as contrary results have stared at us in the face, all the while The hope to make a difference depends on the freedom of the voters to be realistic of the reality that will unfold much to our disappointments Blame not the party but ourselves, who vote them to power for one reason or the other, unable to see below their noses and grasp the economics or the impact of magnitude of monumental scams Political education is a long term goal to achieve desirable goals It must begin even though the results are in the distant Nelson lopes chinchinim --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Matanhy and BJP
On 13 February 2012 15:03, Geraldo Oliveira niger...@yahoo.com wrote [1] one can easily conclude that a Parrikar government with Matanhy in its ranks will be far better than any Congress combination to govern Goa for the next 5 years [2] They (the secularists) will rather hype on the 10 years old controversial CD and Good Friday issue, than the most recent closing ceremony of IFFI deliberately scheduled on the feast of Goencho Saib by ‘secular’ Congress headed by Digubab [3] (There is another post from a Gerald Oliveira ? same ? different as Geraldo Oliveira ) http://valpoi.blogspot.com/2011/04/prophets-of-doom-by-gerald-oliveira.html COMMENT: Preface: I believe that Manohar Parrikar (never mind his asinine silly doing porn' remark) is the best individual among the present lot in the Goa Assembly. There is NO contest about that. Unfortunately, Manohar Parrikar has his apron strings tied to the RSS and BJP. I trust those two outfits as much as I trust the Kangress. I also believe that Matanhy Saldanha has every right to choose which party he wishes to join. Personally - for the past 10 years - I strongly believed that he was a BJP. I am glad that he has finally been honest enough to come out of the closet. a: I am not sure HOW Gerald Oliveira comes to the conclusion in #1. Better based on what? Past record or present mouthings? b: re #2, I do not know the meanings of the partisan talking point i.e. Secularist .and its cousin pseudo-secularistbut I'd say this to Gerald . The VideoCD stuff was NO simple matter. If you have seen the CD like I have, you (possibly) would have been aghast at the vicious (albeit clever) attack on Christianity and Christians contained therein. The 'Good Friday' issue IMHO is a non-issue. Religion has NO place in public service. If the Church wishes to have a service for Govt workers during working days, it should do so after working hours. The Govt is NOT obligated to declare holidays when Govt work is yet to be done. Those who want to attend religious functions on working days, should take Vacation or Unpaid leave on those days. What is the sense of giving Holidays to a set of people who are perpetually on Holiday anyway? I would support Parrikar if he cancelled ALL religious holidays for Govt servants. The Good Friday issue (a personal worship issue) is quite different from the disgustingly devious and communally divisive issue created by the VCD. Let us not even begin to confuse the two. Apologies would be a good start but not really enough. There must be a firm commitment NEVER to repeat that nonsense again. AND, none of the stuff seen in the attached URLs 1 2 (See foot of this post) re #3: This article makes interesting reading. What Geraldo Oliveira is suggesting, I believe, that One set of Delhi controls be replaced by another. Wonder what Gerald Oliveira has to say about that. jc refs: 1: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari1 2: http://tinyurl.com/MaraNari2 Matanhy may wish to review this post on this Valentine's Day 3: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7880377.stm --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Goa, RIP
George, FYI, not every thing has gone into the COFFIN before it is nailed shut. Little something has refused to be enclosed shut and is outside he COFFIN making a din, however miniscule just like an ant would try to sting the leg of the ELEPHANT. There is still hope in these crucial elections for little DAVIDs and /or little KRISHNAs to be armed with vote based SLING-SHOTS/s and/or SWORDS to slay Goa's long stagnating political GOLIATHs and/or NARKASURAS. It is time for every CONSTITUENCY's concerned voters to identity little insignificant Davids and/or Krishnas and arm them with thier vote wapped sling-shots and/or swords. Cheers floriano goasuraj www.goasu-raj.org PS: Goa is not fully RIP Yeeet - Original Message - From: George Pinto georgejpi...@yahoo.com To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:46 AM Subject: [Goanet] Goa, RIP When I have written Goa, RIP, in the past on this forum, it is clear that I am referring to the political set-up in Goa and not to the rest of Goan society which is generally wonderful (food, music, culture, art, music, literature, etc.). Just wanted to make that clear before some sensitive soul with low self-esteem defensively writes some nonsense about critical NRGs, life in America, etc. This is a Goa forum, hence the Goa mention. With that in mind, the upcoming elections mean little since Goa's coffin has already been nailed shut by the policies of the two national parties in the last 15 years. Let the Goan corpse lie, we have disrespected the motherland enough by raping the soil for mining and then urinating and defecating through mega-project development. At best now we can hope that a few ethical independents get elected to rattle the grave and resurrect a new Goa. For some in Goa it will soon be Easter and a religious resurrection. For all of Goa, we must remain optimistic for a political resurrection. Regards, George --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Results of TAG’s Kantaram Singing Competition announced
Results of TAG’s Kantaram Singing Competition announced Oshin J.Fernandes and Ciano King Fernandes bagged the 1st prize in duet category for the duet ‘Amchim Mummy Daddy’ in the Kantaram Singing Competition organized by Tiatr Academy of Goa (TAG) on 12th February 2012 at TAG’s Conference Hall. In the duo category, the song ‘Goykar ani Ghantti’ rendered by Saby Dias and Senon D’Souza won the 1st place. In the trio category, the song ‘Bhav Bhoin Cuniad’ sung by Hashvaine Fernandes, Hipolito Fernandes and Jaqueline Fernandes bagged the first prize. About 58 singers participated in the singing competition which was conducted in different categories such as duets, duos, trios, quartets and choral songs. The detailed result of the singing competition is given here below:- Duet Category 1st - ‘Amchim Mummy Daddy’ Sung by: (i) Oshin J.Fernandes (ii) Ciano King Fernandes 2nd - ’Mahila Mandal’ Sung by: (i) Tracila Gonsalves (ii) Saby Dias Duo Category 1st - ‘Goenkar ani Ghantti’ Sung by: (i) Saby Dias (ii) Senon D’Souza 2nd - ‘Montri’ Sung by (i) Rons Tavares (ii) Agnelo Lobo Trio Category 1st - ‘Bhav Bhoin Cuniad’ Sung by (i) Hashvaine Fernandes (ii) Jaqueline Fernandes (iii) Hipolito Fernandes 2nd - ‘Ami Kudd’dde’ Sung by (i) Gigi Rose Fernandes (ii) Ciano King Fernandes (iii) Flannan Ferrao Quartet Category 1st - ‘Artist’ Sung by (i) Hashvaine Fernandes (ii) Jaqueline Fernandes (iii) Hipolito Fernandes (iv) Stefni Pedroso 2nd - ‘Londonchi Sun’ Sung by (i) Agnelo Lobo (ii) Andrea D’Souza (iii) Domnic Lobo (iv) Custodio Fernandes Choral Song Category 1st - ‘Urbha Diat’ Sung by (i) Gigi Rose Fernandes (ii) Kimberly D’Mello (iii) Ciana Furtado 2nd - ‘Jivitacho Uzvadd’ Sung by (i) Violet D’Souza (ii) Joaquim Lopes (iii) Estacy Mesquita Sharon Mazarello, C.D’Silva and Roy Menezes were the judges. The winners were presented with cash prizes and certificates. Earlier Shri.Tomazinho Cardozo, President of TAG welcomed the gathering and stated that the importance of duets, duos, trios, quartets and choral songs is declining day by day. Hence TAG has attempted to encourage the singers of the duets, duos, trios, quartes, choral songs by organizing the singing competition. Ms.Reeya Pereira compered the function. Victor de Sa Member Secretary --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Panjim, Marga etc..
To Goanet - JoeGoaUK wrote - Beautiful view of Panjim City http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtypanjim6/6856023463/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Goans, please accept this kind of 'change.' Don't you know that Amitav Ghosh has approved of it? I say to Ghosh, No, you outsider, take this 'change' to your own miserable gutter Kolkota. Bertrand Russell once wrote that if you want to be thought of as an insightful sage, you should sprinkle your writings with certain bullshit terms that elicit approving nods from the mindless. When I saw Ghosh peddle cosmopolitanism I had a chuckle for I was reminded of good ol' Bertie. Regards, r --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF
Dear Selma, You must know that the so called 'Indian Gods' (including the Gods of my ancesters) are and have been totally insecure and impotent, always. Otherwise they would have been romping all over the world and not just be confined to the so called Indian Sub-Continent. Therefore the need for PARANOIA from the likes of un-educatable Anvekar etc. Cheers floriano PS: I believe in GOD who have had guts and not just large intestines. :-) - Original Message - From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:30 PM Subject: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF Sandesh Anvekar wrote: in the end the motive of the Church is always to convert (as always)... Response: First of all, I find Sandesh Anvekar's remark absolutely loathsome. No doubt, some Goans are waiting with bated breath for the return of the BJP-ram raj so that we can look forward to 5 years of hurt sensibilities. Ignorance about the Church aside, I always find some comments faintly amusing. In the Christian dominated West, these very people have no problem at all sending their children to school where they all learn about Christ (yes, even non-religious state schools), preform in Christmas pageants and cheerfully dress up as Easter bunnies. It is only in India amidst a population of 1.2 billion, where 2.3% are Christians, that they feel so threatened by the Church and so-called conversions. It is attitudes such as these that will effectively assure India's place perpetually in the Dark Ages. Strangely, no amount of middle-class prosperity in India seems to be eradicating these attitudes which puts paid to the theory that affluence and education are the best criteria for progress. Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF
Aree Sandesh, The motives of the Church have always been to Uplift, the thinking, the philosophy and thereby, the resultant attitudes and way of life. To uplift from the primitiveness wherever found, and create a society where all men are cast EQUAL, not divided into castes etc and that too permanently. Hah Hah. Sandesh has just shown how Ignorant he is and how Ignorance prevails thru saffron primitive ages' philosophy and propoganda. Can I say: Father forgive him for he deliberately has tuned himself to the idiosyncracies of the saffron tribe! God Save Mother India from Saffron Fascism and RSS of the primitive ages! Nascy Caldeira From: Sandesh Anvekar sandeshanve...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, 13 February 2012 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India’s temple prostitutes | The CSF in the end the motive of the Church is always to convert (as always)... On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au wrote: http://persecutedchurch.info/2012/02/11/the-gospel-provides-powerful-hope-for-indias-temple-prostitutes/ --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India?s temple prostitutes | The CSF
REPOST. Apologies on misspelling name. (vjp) My personal opinion on Anvekar’s response is that its his is a straightforward opinion, and not complex analysis. He is saying what he sees fit, which should best and respectfully be accepted at that. Meaning, he shows us what he believes to be the motive of the Church—which I gather to mean the Catholic Church, as in Roman Catholic Church HQ at the Vatican. If its is worth anyone while: point out what the Church in India is/is about, as in the differentiation between the Church (as in Catholic) and other churches which are often seen as the same, and conveniently too. That there are Baptists, Adventist, Presbyterians, etc. Then there are the Orthodox Churches. In India the Syrian Church —Malankara Mar Thoma *Syrian Church, Jacobites…Then there are all the evangelical churches. Evangelizing is not the focus of the RCC, but being Christlike should be. That is a whole different way of being. This has to be made clear. * * * *Then one has to understand what hope is about, what it entails, and where the hunger for it comes from. Accordingly, what does it means/imply to different people--class, religiosity, etc; including what it is that ones hopes for, when one sends ones child to a Catholic school, as also when schools have been stormed at admission time (Of course all non-Christians do not send their children to RC schools), then one has to see what is it about conversion that rankles. Does one believe a forced conversion to be a true conversion--that the knowledge that someone got converted: in that turning away--is it that certain beliefs which have held ones own being together get torn asunder?!* * * *To be free and revel in liberty, one simply must consider such things.* * * *Does it dilutes ones spiritual or social inheritance? And is the Catholic Church in India doing this? And even if so what is it that gets into ones craw. We are of course talking about us being a part of the 5,000 year and counting civilization. * **The Catholic Church in India is quite different in that its overarching trajectory as I see it is does not appear to be conversion. And even if it was, is that possibility truly a horrific fear to live with--at the very least for the balanced Hindu, one who is also well-off, groomed, successful. There are entire villages (unless people, her to mean the Christian writers are unaware of) where not a single inhabitant has got/sought/ or been converted, but the priests have done shall we say phenomenal community service in the areas of irrigation, agriculture, schooling (no Hail Mary, nothing). Hope is hope and the above is still a story of hope--no conversions. For the record, I see myself as a Hindu Christian (A Christian living in Santhan awareness, aware of other paths, and Ko Shinto via Shodo), but am not interested in sharing any insight on my trajectory. The Christ is my opinion is living in the Hindu, but few Hindus realize this, and very few Christians see the Christ in their neighbors. This is not some high theological construct; its simply is a way of living Christian tenets which are available to all, and having the ability/ concern to see. and seek in the devadasi or anyone maligned.scorned. The devadasi by any stretch of imagination are hardly esteemed these days: most see them as fallen person, others do not use their services (times have changed) and gone is that way of acknowledging the other as Thou (see Martin Buber). Best all. venantius j pinto Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:41:59 +0530 From: Sandesh Anvekar sandeshanve...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Gospel provides powerful hope for India?s temple prostitutes | The CSF in the end the motive of the Church is always to convert (as always)... On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Con Menezes cmene...@tpg.com.au wrote: http://persecutedchurch.info/2012/02/11/the-gospel-provides-powerful-hope-for-indias-temple-prostitutes/ --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] BJP woos minority voters in Goa forgets 'Nari Shakti'
What hypocrisy? The BJP has been desperately trying to woo christians of Salcette and Bardez but has shown utter disregard for women empowerment. Not a single women candidate has been given a party ticket. What a forward looking party with a fast forward strategy where women will continue to remain marginalised. If this is not BJP politics of opportunism and winnability, what is it? http://www.heraldgoa.in/News/Local%20News/BJP-set-to-try-and-woo-the-minorities-again-in-Goa/56794.html - Soter --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Fw: We are among an union of dacoits and bullies
In these past few weeks three incidents or more marked the daily lives of Goans not only in Goa but also world wide. One was the Musuem dacoity, the other, the institutionalized dacoity ie the case of corruption with the monster rat involved and the third, the case of bullying by the indian navy in not allowing Goans to participate in religious festivities on Anjediva. But this is how it all began ... Ugly looking bearded sikhs and uglier looking marathas and madrassis went about turning the place upside down, looting houses and ransacking churches, despoiling shops of their stocks and generally behaving very much like barbarians of thirteenth century whenever they swooped down from their mountain lairs on the lush fields and rich cities of their more civilized neighbours. They robbed and devastated where they could and exacted purchases at a ridiculously low price where they could not, removing everything to the illegal black markets maintained by their relations back in the indian union, where huge ungodly profits would be the order of the day Page 205. - December 1961. - Nehru Sezies Goa - L. Lourenço. BC --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Stop the Family Raj!
The 70s and the 80s saw a phenomenal rise in the growth of the Mumbai Underworld. Haji Mastan, Dawood Ibrahim, Arun Gawli, Chota Rajan, Mudaliar, Karim Lala and so many others became household names in the area of of terror and fear. By adopting two simple techniques - 1. Mutually agreeing to operate from within their own territories and 2. Wearing the mask of Robin Hood and distributing a part of their ill-gotten wealth among the people -these petty criminals rose to become huge Gang-lords and Extortionists and Mafia Dons and Smugglers. This all happened 'Once upon a time in Mumbai', a price which the city has been paying for till now. There is now an attempt to replicate this model of horror and destruction in Goa. The Congress High command has gifted one territory to the Ranes. Another one to the Alemaos. A third to the Monserrates. And these three or four families, along with their commanders and chiefs and lieutenants - the Madkaikars and Parekh and Patnekar and a few others - will be vying to control the destiny and future of our beloved state. If they manage to succeed in their designs, even God will not be able to save Goa. Hence, Goans must unite. We must not allow Goa to get into the hands of these three or four families. The need to come together to prevent this 'horror model' from becoming a reality is now. Behind the masks of Robin Hood are individuals who are all out to destroy Goa. Let us not be fooled by their chicanery, antics and tricks! Sandeep Heble Panaji-Goa --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] Pop band produced by Jazz Goa
Muheera's first single 'Angel' entered the intenational top 40's at No:18 and the second single UD JA (fly) is flying all the way to the top. Muheera is a bunch of talented young singer/song writers being produced by Jazz Goa. Hear the band at http://www.soundclick.com/muheera --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
[Goanet] RE Meet Nolasco Dias' daughter - II
If you are in Goa listen tonight on FM Rainbow 9pm song 'Moipass' Sung by Nolasco and Jeanette. Happy Valentine Day Edward Verdes -Original Message- [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of JoeGoaUk Goanet] Meet Nolasco Dias' daughter - II I get several queries after the first post, I must say I did not know much about Nolasco except his songs on Akashvanni Ponnje. Thanks to TAG (Tiatr Academy of Goa) for it efforts in reviving the memories of the tiatrists of the yester years in it's montly programes. Nolasco Dias http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr11/6859788535/ '...all the resources and whatever money he had, he just put into tiatr and my mother was really furious about the fact but he stuck to his guns..he lived his dream and I respect him and my thoughts are with him today..he died on 27 December, 4 years ago' - His daughter, recently in Goa at TAG's programme on 22.12.11 One of the popular songs that played on Akasvasvani Ponje, Goa (All India Radio Panjim) --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---