Re: [Goanet] Football...

[Jose Colaco]

I am glad that FN is delighted / pleased with the 101st rank in Football

Personally, I am delighted that in Cricket, the India Team is the top force.

jc

On 6 April 2017 at 23:27, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *
فريدريك نورونيا  wrote:

> Yay, we're 101st in the world! Up from 132nd ranking FN
>

Re: [Goanet] OFFTOPIC - International Threat

[Jose Colaco]

On 5 April 2017 at 01:46, Santosh Helekar  wrote:

" But more likely he will hobble along, and stumble and bumble".


COMMENT:  In these potentially difficult times, I wish him and ALL
Americans.the very best. I am hopeful.

jc

Re: [Goanet] Retort to your article in Goanet.

[Jose Colaco]

Stephen Dias  wrote:

Dear Jim, Has President Donald Trump revealed his tax returns as is
MANDATORY for President?




COMMENT:

Arre Stephen Dias Koslim Bondollam Martai re?

jc

Re: [Goanet] bon appetite: fetal cells from aborted babies to flavor food

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Goanet,

I submit that it is your right to allow FALSE and DANGEROUS postings to be
circulated on Goanet, even under FAKE names. This is, after all, the era of
Fake News.

PLEASE be advised that the above captioned story is FALSE.

I am wondering IF ...in this index case, PepsiCo et al can bring a law suit
against the Listed Moderators of Goa Net?

jc

On 18 March 2017 at 15:44, Jose  wrote:

> http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/pepsi.asp
>
> jc
>
> Enviado do meu iPad
>
>
> > On Mar 18, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Fidibus  wrote:
> >
> > List of companies using fetal cells from aborted babies to flavor
> >
> > http://www.healthclinicweb.com/2016/02/11/list-of-
> companies-using-fetal-cells-from-aborted-babies-to-flavor-known-to-share/
> >
> > --
> > Rebellion against the norms is Love for the Creation
> >
> > skype:fidibee
> >
> > homepage: www.fidibus.info
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>

Re: [Goanet] International Women's Day. Strikes and protests around the world.

[Jose Colaco]

On 8 March 2017 at 18:47, Con Menezes  wrote:

>
> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-39208516?ocid=global_bbccom_
> email_08032017_top+news+stories
>


The following post is what I wrote on Facebook (Goanet) in agreement & in
 response to Prof Teotonio Souza's post on the matter.

 Here are some areas, I believe, in which Society needs to change instead
of just being Disorderly:

1: Men and Women truly believe that Marriage/Partnerships work best when
both parties Help each other out.

2: Both parties work sensibly within Budgets, instead of just spending
Money (His or Hers).

3: Mothers and adult daughters develop close advisory and mutually
respectful relationships understanding that each will make errors.

4: Mothers treat the daughters with the same deference as they treat their
sons.

5: Mothers-in-law treat their daughters-in-law with mutual respect and
not as 'additional help for household chores'.

6: Mothers do not support Dowry demands or Force their daughters to marry
men they do not wish to.

7: Mothers do not support "Honour Killings", Genital Mutilation or Enforced
super-conservative attire.

Sodear WomenA lot of this is in your hands. Don't just protest and
hold slogans, DO Something. (Yes, the above list is only partial).

Those who believe Women are not oppressors of other Women (especially
within their own family or work place)...Think again. Look at the record of
Female leaders of countries or even organizations. Ask women IF they would
prefer to work with Female bosses or Male bosses?

For additional reading: http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38833804



jc

Re: [Goanet] Can you tell us something more about: ANTONIO MASCARENHAS

[Jose Colaco]

On 27 February 2017 at 13:02, Eugene Correia 
wrote

":Antonio is father of Fatima whose wife was Mira.."

*COMMENT:*  *QUE? !*

*jc*

Re: [Goanet] Jules Fausto Mendonca de Sa replies to Jim...

[Jose Colaco]

On 11 February 2017, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

BTW, the Ernest Hemingway of 140 characters had the following to say, "I am
not going to fade into Bolivian."

RESPONSE:

And the Bwana Hemingway of Whine wrote: " Even my doctor advises me to have
a daily glass of Whine; Besides everything else, it benefits Canadian
Whineries".

jc
Viva MACA

Re: [Goanet] GOA ASSEMBLY ELECTIONS

[Jose Colaco]

On 3 February 2017 at 12:29, Eugene Correia 
wrote:

> So which parties or independents are likely to join Congress in a
> post-poll alliance to form government?


Ahthat Nehru Congress which Eugene lauds. See the mess Goa now is in.

jc

Re: [Goanet] Subject: Re: Jules Fausto Mendonca de Sa replies to Jim...

[Jose Colaco]

MD...you probably missed what FN was really saying about the "Second Class
Passenger syndrome".

He is (obviously) saying that RULES of occupancy do NOT apply. FN is surely
(also) saying: Hey ! IF we can deal with lack of resources because of
inadequate planning, WHY cant you?

jc

On 3 February 2017 at 18:32, MD  wrote:

> 'second-class passenger's syndrome'
> Metaphor- We agree to any class to get in and once in, can we demand a
> seat? No I guess!!


FN wrote: " This is the second-class passenger's syndrome which the Indian
Railways is famous for. As long as I'm outside, please let me in. Once I'm
in, can't you find some other place to bloody-well get on to? Why crowd my
compartment?

Re: [Goanet] Subject: Donald Trump the Impulsive.

[Jose Colaco]

On 24 January 2017 at 12:05, M Demello wrote the following (MD) in response
to Con Menezes (ConMen)

MD1: Please stop posting biased media links.

jc1: That is inappropriate. Just because the lefties are blocking free
speech..does not mean MD should try to muscle out ConMen's expression of
free speech - as long as he is not inciting violence.
==

MD2: Checked the link and found.

jc2: MD is being kind here. It is my understanding that most gNetters
simply send ConMen's posts (and mine surely) directly to the BIN
===

MD3: the American Main stream media such as Washington Post, CBS, LA Times,
CNN, MSNBC, NY Times and many such others including the Guardian of UK have
been twisting and spinning every story against Trump

jc3: I would add BBC to that. I was previously led to believe that the BBC
was Fair and Balanced. No More.
==

MD4: perhaps he is unaware; American Presidency is based on winning
'electoral votes' and not 'popular votes.

jc4: Ah ...the US Constitution!

Who was it that said that he had a Copy of the US Constitution in his
pocket? Perhaps, he can send it to ConMen.

best
jc

Re: [Goanet] No Debate, No Dialogue, No Democracy?

[Jose Colaco]

Joao-Barros-Pereira's "Fluff from Afar" is even Fluffier , perhaps, in time
for Christmas.

Here is something "Rahul" may wish to direct to the attention of out
notorious Fluff Master

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbWc7GxvUYc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkusVJLbiEY

jc

On 19 December 2016 at 03:20, Joao Barros-Pereira <
joaobarrospere...@gmail.com> wrote:

> BJP icon L K Advani is worried as there has not been a debate on
> demonetization even at a late hour, and only a day after the last day
> of the winter session it has become a reality, making a mockery of
> parliamentary procedure and democracy. Anyway, it has finally
> happened!
>
> The Congress and the BJP engage in finger pointing and trade
> accusations while the people of India are held hostage and in a state
> of serendipity, leaving the Indian psyche with an uncomfortable
> feeling. Rahul Gandhi who is vice-president of the Congress Party had
> better present his evidence of the Prime Minister's personal
> dishonesty or shut up.
>
> Rahul is already well known as an empty vessel and now he is making
> too much of a noise for the good of the Congress Party.
>
> Time to act, Rahul, and present your evidence if you have it! Our
> culture, most of the time, has been a consensus culture even when at
> times we have come to erroneous conclusions as in the case of caste
> and rebirth which is good for a laugh in the twenty-first century.
>
> Our intellectuals and learned seekers have debated endlessly over
> millennia in the search for ultimate truth.
>
> Unfortunately, since our fight for freedom from British Rule the
> concept of freedom in our country is narrow and undergone a radical
> change.
>
> Formerly, it was much more than the definition of political parameters
> and narrow identities which it has become today. India appears to a
> lot of non-Indians around the world as more of an anarchy than a
> democracy especially in the West where freedom is defined in a very
> large part in political terms. If India is an anarchy from the point
> of view of the West then it is an anarchy that works!
>
> We have our ways which is different from the West which is not to say
> there is no dialogue or debate. Pundit Nehru has referred often enough
> to democracy as a political system of consensus. Our politicians of
> various parties should begin a dialogue and start to debate. We, the
> people of India, want to hear the views of our representatives on all
> important issues.
>

Re: [Goanet] The Forgotten Villages of Goa (Mario Malar)

[Jose Colaco]

A Very Informative and Interesting site.

Thank you, FN and Mario

jc

On 18 December 2016 at 12:04, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *
فريدريك نورونيا  wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/TFVOG/?hc_ref=SEARCH
> --
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> _/
> _/  Frederick Noronha | http://about.me/noronhafrederick |
> http://goa1556.in
> _/  P +91-832-2409490 M 9822122436 Twitter @fn Fbk: fredericknoronha
> _/  Goa,1556 CC shared audio content https://archive.org/details/goa1556
> _/
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
>

Re: [Goanet] Yesterday In Paradise - The Dogears Bookstore Skip Fernandes Presentation

[Jose Colaco]

Knowing How Challenging it is to Organise and Achieve Anything Anywhere,
especially in Goa, I COMMEND individuals like Frederick Noronha for their
Artistic (et al) Output.

jc

On 16 December 2016 at 18:23, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या
*فريدريك نورونيا  wrote:

> Hi Roland,
>
> Please lead by example.
>
> My offering is here: https://archive.org/details/goa1556?sort=-publicdate
> These are not necessarily books, but the your litany of complaints could be
> valid here too (not professional recordings, non-Canadian diction or
> mumbling, etc).
>
> As almost anyone might understand, we do work within constraints. To offer
> advice from a distant reality doesn't make too sense.
>
> This is one reason why Goa remains one of the few states in India without
> even a community radio station of its own. Lots of free suggestion and
> advice, little support or concrete help. Tell me what you're willing to
> help with, and I'll tell you what useful initiative (not mine) that could
> go to help.
>
> We can make elaborate suggestions, but not work concretely to make these
> come true?
>
> To argue that "Other than that, one day to Skip's own grandchildren, Pio
> Gama Pinto and Fritz De Souza will probably be meaningless and alien
> names." sounds as if we're shooting ourselves in our (collective,
> community) foot. Let's not worry about grand children, but about today. The
> story will keep getting told, maybe in different ways, even of different
> places.
>
> Send us some community recordings (and show us what's possible). I would be
> the first to want to learn of how to record simply, affordably and
> sustainably.
>
> FN
> --
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> _/
> _/  Frederick Noronha  http://about.me/noronhafrederick http://goa1556.in
> _/  P +91-832-2409490 M 9822122436 Twitter @fn Fcbk:fredericknoronha
> _/  Hear Goa,1556 shared audio content at
> https://archive.org/details/goa1556
> _/
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
>

Re: [Goanet] Fi*ha da put

[Jose Colaco]

FN.Pardon My Intrusion but, your attempted Phun having been noted

 Filha isn't = Son

jc

On 13 December 2016 at 10:29, Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या *
فريدريك نورونيا  wrote:

> What does that Latin mean? Son of a son (put)? FN
>
> To: Goanet 
> Subject: [Goanet] Filho da puta !
> Message-ID: <347744083.2991057.1481641613...@mail.yahoo.com>
> From: Errol Pinto <
> Forget ched**cha. In Brazil everything is "filho da puta" ?this the other,
> Goans of course turned it intopidgeon - fujedaput
>

Re: [Goanet] Cashless at fish market

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Antonio,

Just this morning I was speaking to a close relative of mine in Margao. She
was going through a similar problem. She is visiting from abroad and has
not (for security reasons) carrying vast sums of money on her person. She
normally uses her Credit card where it is accepted. But not everyone
accepts credit cards. So. HOW exactly does one manage in this confusion?

And WHO exactly do we Thank for this nonsense?

I wanted to Thank Xri Lamm Bhott, Xri See_Nari and Xri Carrom_Ali.for
their Criminal Negligence. But, I am sure they too are facing the music
Instead, Let me just Thank our Genius Goanetters who glorified (from Dhobi
Talao) those brilliant FreeDumb Disordeiros.

jc


On 12 December 2016 at 09:54, Antonio Menezes  wrote:

> Naively believing in Goa's Govt grand design to make Goa
> go cashless, I requested my wife who is more familiar with
> digital manoeuvres to hand me her contraption .  After a little
> bit of training how to pay Rs 100, I approached a nistekani
> ( fisherwoman )in our village market. Haggled with her and
> managed to get nine bangdas instead of eight , took out
> the digital contraption and was about to push  buttons for
> Rs. 100, when nistekani stared at me and said: '' Arreh,
> che**iechea, tum konnanc narunc eila ? ''
>

Re: [Goanet] DEBATE: Is it true India has never invaded a foreign country?

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Ferdinando

As India was born some approx 70 years ago, I have to read quite a bit of
history to answer that question.

To narrow the search, I suggest that One Looks ONLY at territories/nations
in which India had Diplomatic representations...and consider Goa, East
Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

jc

On 6 December 2016 at 12:23, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão <
drferdina...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> India did not need to invade any foreign Country. The necessity never
> arose.
>
> On the contrary, foreign countries invaded India.
>
> Because, inspite of it being much more advanced in knowledge, millenniums
> back,
>
> Having knowledge of "Cosmetic Surgery and Reproductive Genetics" and
>
> also having technology on flying machines "Vimanas"!!
>
> India became a Colony!
>
> Brain v/s Brawn ??
>
>
>
> >* On Dec 5, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Frederick FN Noronha wrote:
> *
> >* 
> >https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-India-has-never-invaded-any-foreign-country
> > 
> >
> *
>
>
>
> Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
>

Re: [Goanet] Has Democracy Outlived Its Usefulness

[Jose Colaco]

On 18 November 2016 at 14:57, Eugene Correia wrote:
"The word "ajeeb" has many meanings, and should be read in the context of
what is said. What Nehru meant was that Goans are "unique" and not
"strange" as some anti-India Goans have mentioned just to deride Nehru.
JC is probably happy with the sound and the tense of the word. For Nehru,
Goans were unique because of its Luso-Indian culture."

COMMENT:

I accept that I did not ask Nehru what he meant by the term 'Ajeeb'.  As
one who studied Hindi during my high school years, I did not believe I had
to ask Chacha Nehru that query. Perhaps, Mr. Eugene Correia asked Nehru and
he explained the meaning to him.

If that did not happen, I'd submit that the meaning offered by Eugene might
be OK in Dhobi Talao Hindi but definitely not in regular Hindi, Hindustani
or Urdu (Nehru's mother tongue).

please vide: http://dict.hinkhoj.com/ajeeb-meaning-in-english.words

jc

Re: [Goanet] A Step In the Right Direction

[Jose Colaco]

On 15 November 2016 at 02:01, Joao Barros-Pereira <
joaobarrospere...@gmail.com> wrote:

"Congratulations to Prime Minister Narendra Modi for achieving the
near impossible.
I feel as if a few day ago India went through a bloodless revolution in
which we achieved economic liberation which has been a major struggle since
1947 when we achieved political independence."


Ah YES 

In SIMILAR VEIN, I take this opportunity to Congratulate the erstwhile MG
dispensation for Liberating Land from the Land-Owners and giving it to
those who Toiled on it .EVEN IFONLY after the Mines were excluded
from the Statute.

Impressive Xri Joao Barros-Pereira ! Very Impressive !

As usual, Your Bubble (as opposed to Hubble) Telescope has Focused very
accurately on the Right Spot or Not !

jc

Re: [Goanet] Isabella D'Cunha, 59, a former Mississauga resident who immigrated to Canada in 2007, renounced her permanent resident status in June and moved back to the U.S. after battling for years w

[Jose Colaco]

On 8 November 2016 at 09:27, Eugene Correia 
wrote:

"I think Isabella's case is different, perhaps falling into the
"illegal immigration"
catefory."


COMMENT:

Not very sure HOW Eugene Correia came up with this deduction.

If Eugene was right, the Residency would have been denied or revoked -
unless Canada is &%$#@& than I thought before
I suggest that for Citizenship, an individual has to show that he/she was
resident in Canada for X number of days in the previous X number of years.

But...NO worries for her. If she is an US citizen. She would be able to
travel in and out of Canada - quite freely.

jc

Re: [Goanet] GOA IS GONE RUES FORMER CHIEF SECRETARY DR J.C.ALMEIDA

[Jose Colaco]

On Nov 7, 2016, at 2:30 AM, Aires Rodrigues  wrote:
"Former Chief Secretary of Goa Dr J.C Almeida while expressing deep
anguish over the current destruction and devastation of Goa has
lamented that Goa was now gone and not salvageable.

Pointing out to the rampant corruption and bad governance that has
engulfed the State, Dr Almeida recollected how bureaucrats during the
tenure of Chief Minister Dayanand Bandodkar and later under Shashikala
Kakodkar strictly functioned within the parameters of law."

COMMENT:

Assuming that the above is reported accurately by Aires Rodrigues, I
wish to Thank Mr. JC Almeida for that Nonsense.

I understand that with time, ALL of us have the problem with Fading
Memory. However, Trust Me JC AlmeidaGoans especially qualified
Catholic Goans and the 10% per Bus Ticket folks ...still Remember. And
that is Just for Starters!.

They also know the role you played in that 'Gorrment".

Please Remember too that Whitewash does NOT mean that the underlying
Rust has been taken Care of. TRY work out WHY the MGP fell from power,
NEVER to regain it again.

jc

Re: [Goanet] Taxes - from a member, not so long ago

[Jose Colaco]

Random thoughts while awaiting der Mathew !

1: Interesting how two ostensibly intelligent individuals can see
(hopefully) a cricket bat and yet, One can claim that it actually is a ball.
2: One comes to a debate . is allowed to make his presentation, but
insists on interrupting the other from the get-go.
3: One can totally disregard the instructions given by a debate moderator,
and behaves like a 'disordeiro'. ; Is the disregard because the moderator
was a woman?

That apart, I disagree with 007 Fernandes. From available info on my
private computer, Eric Pinto has routinely returned the annual Tax Refunds
and More because he was so very 'samko' concerned about the welfare of the
Mociedade Portuguesa chaps.

Like all the other brilliant claims (some libelous) that Eric Pinto has
made on Goanet, I am sure Eric Pinto will clarify the Cricket Bat and Ball
issue as one in which: Facts and Reality notwithstanding, The Ends justify
the Means.

Baba Eric Pinto, Ami Goemcar murre ! Unlike the Gumantacs and Tamra
Patrawallas, we stood for the Truth. You surely are a Goan, Right ? If NOT,
please carry on smartly.

jc
Heading soon to a hotel which has a generator. Mathew, certainly will cause
the Power Company to turn off the power for a couple of days.:-(

On 5 October 2016 at 01:25, Jim Fernandes  wrote:

> Eric,
>
> You are beginning to smell like the Canadian puppy. I didn't think you
> were that smart to remember what I wrote several months ago here on GoaNet.
> Was he the one who you sent you the little snippet that you copy / pasted
> here? I have blasted that puppy several times here on GoaNet in the past.
> He can't win an argument with me and it appears - neither can you.
>
> Looks like you really got hurt when I stabbed you the last time. In the
> future, I would recommend you include the complete link to my email,
> instead of copy/pasting little snippets of my GoaNet postings that can
> distort the context in which I wrote the post. Regardless, I stand by every
> word I wrote.
>
> For your lazy little fingers - Here is the complete link:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg116390.html
>
> Let me begin by stating that I am not privy to Mr. Trump's COMPLETE tax
> returns so my knowledge about his tax returns is minimal. But every tax
> paying citizen would know that it would be considered a serious offense, if
> Mr. Trump did not pay taxes on his earnings/profits after adjusting for
> forwarded losses in a given financial year . Are you suggesting Mr. Trump
> evaded paying taxes? If that is the case, please prosecute him and I
> guarantee you he'll be in jail if found guilty.
>
> The US tax code allows any business entity operating in the US to carry
> forward losses from previous financial years. Based on what little is
> leaked in the press, I can surmise that he would be allowed to zero out
> certain profits by deducting past losses. Is this illegal?
>
> I think not.
>
> On a personal note, haven't you lost any money in the stock market on any
> trades ever? If so, don't you zero out your losses against your profits? If
> you aren't familiar with this little piece of tax code, you may want to
> check that that the IRS allows you to deduct $3000 per year from your
> investment profits till you die or as long as you carry your losses.
>
> Next time, come better prepared to play chess with me.
>
> Jim Fernandes
> Scarsdale, New York.
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 13:11:01 + (UTC), eric pinto 
> wrote:
>
> > Trump had called it disgusting, now it is his 'genius' and
> 'brilliance.'
> >
> >
> ---   THE POST
> > > I am a NUMBERs guy. Math is the only language I understand very well.
> > >
> > > We all pay in something called taxes - whether it be Federal, State,
> City
> > > or whatever else. In return, we get something called government
> services
> > > and benefits.
> > > This system can only work when everybody contributes to it. If
> EVERYBODY
> > > decides to NOT pay their taxes, how will they be able to pay out
> benefits?
> > > In the langauge of math - this is like less money coming in and more
> money
> > > leaving out the door. By definition, this type of model cannot sustain
> > > itself - It's that simple.
> > >
> > > This is just another reason - I am supporting Trump.
> >
> >
> > > What I meant to ask was:
> > In the same vein, why should the British people absorb the cost of
> funding
> > accommodation, education, healthcare, child support etc to non-tax paying
> > EU residents in the UK?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [Goanet] [ Goanet:] : The latest scaremongering regarding cell phones

[Jose Colaco]

On 26 September 2016 at 13:09, Stephen Dias  wrote:
"Dear All, Dr Salkar Shekar and his other supporters  must read what his
comrade physican Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcao says in Goanet based on
Santosh Helekar OUTDATED information on radiation."

Dear all,

I understand the viewpoints of Dr.  Ferdinando dos Reis Falcao and Dr.
Santosh Helekar. I am personally biased towards the position taken by Dr.
Falcao, perhaps because it is a legally safer position for me to take.

I don't know the basis upon which Dr. Santosh Helekar's information was be
considered Outdated! Accordingly, I will ignore the Gas emitted by the
non-physicians in this discussion i.e. Girish Kumar, Prakash Munshi and
Stephen Dias.

ps: I have asked Girish Kumar to provide specific details of ANY studies he
may have personally conducted and published in a peer reviewed journal
which studied the Effect of this type of radiation on Humans. As expected,
thus far, he has ducked the questions. This suggests to me (at least) that
he has NOT personally conducted ANY such tests. And Yet, he has the nerve
to ask Dr. Salkar the same question !

Some nerve !!

jc

Re: [Goanet] Why not tell us what research have you done?

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Prof Girish Kumar,

This refers to your subject line " Why not tell us what research have you
done?"

Allow me please to Preface my Questions to you with the following:

(1) I am not sure about the effects on humans of Radiation emitted by Cell
phone towers.
(2) I am aware of the published scientific on the matter.
(3) However, I believe that it is the Right of the Residents to object to
themunless there is an overriding national security interest.
(4) I am one of those who would prefer NOT to have a Bunch of those Towers
in my back-yard.

(5) I believe that the reported statement by Dr. Shekhar Salkar could &
should have been worded differently.
(6) Dr. Salkar is a qualified surgeon who has significant experience in
Cancer Surgery.
(7) I could be wrong but I believe that FICS (Oncology) is NOT a
degree/qualification.
(8) You, Dr. Girish are absolutely within your rights to ask Dr. Salkar the
question you have asked.

While he does that, here are My Questions to you:
a: Are you a Physician ?
b: Have you PERSONALLY studied the effects on Humans of Radiation from Cell
Phone Towers in India/elsewhere.
c: Would you please provide access to Your Study Design, Materials &
Methods, Statistical Tests used to analyse that Data and Conclusions
reached?
d: Do you still have the Raw Data You collected and studied?

Just in case you are wondering: Yes, I should know a thing or two about
Research.

best
jc

=

On 22 September 2016 at 11:45, Girish Kumar  wrote:

> To, Dr Shekhar Salkar
>
> Recd your following email, which is forwarded by Mr. Prakash Munshi, who
> has asked me for comments.
>
> In reply to Question NO. 3of Mr. Prakash Munshi
> Do you know what our Honourable Prime Minister says of on radiation from
> Mobile Towers? He has written under his signature that Radiation from
> Mobile Towers has proved killers to the creatures and bees. Do you feel
> that the Honourable Prime Minister’s opinion is false?
>
> *You have mentioned in your Answer *
> *"Yes, I feel the honourable Prime Minister’s opinion is false because he
> is neither a scientist nor a medical doctor. He has never done any
> experiments on any creatures."*
>
> So much disrespect to India's PM is not good. I fully agree with  him that
> Radiation from Mobile Towers has proved killers to the creatures and bees.
> You should know that PM has access to all the scientists and medical
> doctors of India.
>
> There are 4000 scientific papers, which are written by 100's of scientists
> of the world and peer reviewed and published in the best possible journal
> of the world. How can you neglect these papers? I know that there are
> 25,000 papers, which say there is no health hazard or there is no
> conclusive evidence but scientists have found that nearly 75% of these
> papers are funded by industry.
>
> I have interacted with 100's of people who have developed several health
> problems, such as, headache to cancer.
> I have myself done experiments on rats using electromagnetic radiation and
> noted severe health hazards due to EM radiation.
>
> IARC classified RF radiation as Possibly Carcinogen (Class 2B) but
> unfortunately WHO classified only Cell Phone as Possibly Carcinogen (Class
> 2B).
> Nearly 200 scientists have urged WHO to classify RF radiation as Probable
> Carcinogen (Class 2A) and even Known Carcinogen (Class 1).
>
> Even IMC report of Jan. 2011 and Environment Ministry Report of Nov. 2011
> have documented 100's of papers, which show health hazards.
>
> If you want, I can give you plenty of papers, people who are affected by
> radiation, birds, bees, trees which are getting affected and so on.
>
> I am copying this email to several others who have interacted with me in
> the past.
>
> *
> Girish Kumar
> Professor, Electrical Engineering Department
> I.I.T. Bombay, Powai, Mumbai - 400076, INDIA
> Tel. - (022) 2576 7436, Fax  - (022) 2572 3707
> email - gku...@ee.iitb.ac.in, prof.gku...@gmail.com
> *
>

Re: [Goanet] Joke For The Day

[Jose Colaco]

My responses (jc) to what Eugene Correia (EC) wrote to VJP wrt a post by my
good friend Roland Francis:

EC1: Yeah, VJP ...Irish Bull is a statement that defies logic and syntax
but manages to be communicative.
jc1: Thank you Eugene. I was looking for a term to describe your various
posts. I now have found a term which fits them "perfectamente".

EC2: BTW, I read Roland's article on Fiona Pinto-D'Souza, and I noticed
that "commas" and "hyphens" were missing from places where they should have
been inserted. I could only conclude that Roland EAT them for breakfast.
jc2: I am sure Eugene meant to use the word "ATE" but that he (Eugene) did
EAT it (the word) for breakfast instead.

EC3:  "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and
pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"
jc3:  As the 'famadh' detective Hercule Poirot would say "Touché, Mon Ami,
Touché !

jc

Re: [Goanet] Goanet: Spain's Stolen Babies: When Nuns Took Babies from Parents

[Jose Colaco]

My dear Roland

Without getting into a prolonged 'contra tu' about this topic, I'd suggest
that you re-read what Stephen Dias has written.

jc

On 18 September 2016 at 00:55, Roland  wrote:

> Oh my gosh!
>
> JC you have your answer thanks to Stephen Dias.
>
> It was not such a leap of speculation and conspiracy theorizing after all.
>
> Roland Francis
> Toronto.
>
> > On Sep 17, 2016, at 10:35 PM, Stephen Dias 
> wrote:
> >
> >  Dr Colaco is rightly made his comment :
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > "where if one sneezed in Canacona ,
> > everybody would hear it all the way in Tiracol ?"
> >
> > Subject says " parents" i.e Nuns took babies from parents.
> > Who are the parents? In this case they are unwed mother. Only single
> parent is affected and not parents as  father who is unofficial unknown.
> > This kind of taking babies is a common issue or practice in Goa,  not
> only in Salazar's  time but still it continues now, and I know that babies
> can be taken directly from certain Hospitals or else they are made to
> disappear from the Hospital and given to the affluent people/families to
> take them home or even these babies are taken  to other states. It is
> nothing new and as long as there is no complain,  these babies either are
> sold or given with some declaration so that these babies are not ill
> treated. I know there are plenty of  cases here in Goa that such babies are
> been adopted and they are well taken care with good education etc.etc  This
> is generally taking place with those parents who do not have any issues.
> >
> > Stephen Dias
> > Dona Paula
> >
> > On 17 September 2016 at 15:50, Roland  wrote:
> > "Not a far cry to reflect on this happening to poor and unwed mothers in
> > Salazar's Goa where a similar ideology and strict moral code existed."
> >
> > Dear Roland,
> >
> > Quite a Leap of Speculation and Conspiracy Theorizing.
> >
> > Any reasonable and verifiable support for this occurring (exceptions
> having
> > been noted) in a small place like Goa - where if one sneezed in Canacona,
> > everybody would hear it all the way in Tiracol ?
> >
> > jc
>

Re: [Goanet] Spain's Stolen Babies: When Nuns Took Babies From Parents

[Jose Colaco]

MarshallWhat you have written relates to the known, expected and
beneficial Placement of Newborns who their mothers did not want - for more
than one reason. They, likely, would have been aborted or abandoned
otherwise.

What Roland has negligently (IMHO) speculated about is the Stealing of
these babies. It is worth waiting for Roland to provide evidence (even
based on a lower standard ie Preponderance), that such Theft was going on
in Goa during the Salazar era.

jc

On 18 September 2016 at 05:33, Marshall Mendonza 
wrote:

> I wonder how fair and appropriate it is to judge social happenings of 75
> years ago with today's social norms. At least the children were not aborted
> but given in adoption.  I recollect as a child, the people in the
> neighbourhood speak in whispers about a lady who was sent on an enforced
> holiday for one year. I understood the meaning much later in life. Those
> were the days when unwed motherhood was considered a scandal. The
> unfortunate lady would find it difficult to find a husband and the other
> eligible members of the family, a match.
>
> Regards,
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
>
> *In Franco's Spain the Catholic Church, nuns and doctors were
> co-conspirators in operating a criminal ring where young single mothers
> delivering babies in hospitals which in that time were all owned by the
> Church, were led to believe their babies had died. The babies were then
> given for adoption to affluent families.Not a far cry to reflect on this
> happening to poor and unwed mothers in Salazar's Goa where a similar
> ideology and strict moral code existed.-*
> *Roland Francis*
>

Re: [Goanet] Spain's Stolen Babies: When Nuns Took Babies From Parents

[Jose Colaco]

On 17 September 2016 at 15:50, Roland  wrote:
"Not a far cry to reflect on this happening to poor and unwed mothers in
Salazar's Goa where a similar ideology and strict moral code existed."


Dear Roland,

Quite a Leap of Speculation and Conspiracy Theorizing.

Any reasonable and verifiable support for this occurring (exceptions having
been noted) in a small place like Goa - where if one sneezed in Canacona,
everybody would hear it all the way in Tiracol ?

jc

Re: [Goanet] Tramp's Call Girl morals.

[Jose Colaco]

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 eric pinto  wrote on GOANET:
"Give Trump credit for taste, at least, he picked a Slovenian call girl"


jc COMMENT: I am not sure whether Eric Pinto is merely a "Bhakt" or a
Misogynist. But, I contend that, in this thread, he has used Goanet to
libel another person. I'd like to advise Mr. Pinto that: disagreeing with a
person politically, is NOT an exclusion clause to the Observance of the
Ninth Commandment.

jc

Re: [Goanet] CELLPHONE TOWER RADIATIONS

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Dr. Ferdinando,

I am not an expert on this field. BUT, I do not trust local engineers,
technicians and quality of the machines.

I am a cautious person. I do not make pronouncements based of the
statements of others... in another country with different sets of
individuals and machines. Hence, I thought that the pronouncement from Dr.
Shekhar Salkar was unwise, especially as he is not a research scientist. It
was a counterproductive statement which appeared to be 'matlabi' in nature,
even though they may not have been.

BTW: I also do NOT 'carte blanche' accept the pronouncements (on this
topic) of Girish Kumar.

best

j


On 14 September 2016 at 20:20, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão <
drferdina...@hotmail.com> wrote:


> With these latest facts from accepted scientific research bodies, I ask
> the following questions. Can a qualified Doctor in the medical field assure
> with confidence that cancer cannot be caused when authorities have not
> proved it yet? Is there a constant check by any Authority on the levels of
> RF energy emissions from the towers? Is there anyway of checking the
> radiation level of the  mobile phone? Regulatory information gives out
> Specific Absorption Rate (SAR) of the head and body. For the head, SAR of
> more than 1.6 is dangerous. Anything below 1 is safe. For the body, SAR
> above 5 is dangerous and regulatory norms prescribe that SAR has to be less
> than 2 for the body.

Re: [Goanet] Male Prostitutes who collect lucre

[Jose Colaco]

On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 eric pinto  wrote:
"Give Trump credit for taste, at least, he picked a Slovenian call girl"

COMMENT: Shame on you, Eric Pinto if you really meant to write this
libelous nonsense. Disagreeing with a person politically, is NOT an
exclusion clause for the Observance of the Ninth Commandment.

jc

Re: [Goanet] UK - Goan MP Keith Vaz (by Rose Fernandes)

[Jose Colaco]

1: Rose Fernandes  wrote: "we once held our heads up
high “we are Goans” and there were no problems looking for work."

2: jc COMMENT: Absolutely!  Rose...Absolutely!

3: Frederick Noronha wrote: "This is like living in the 'good old days'.
Hindutva, for instance, believes that the height of Indian glory was the
fifth century CEIn my view, just nostalgia and rubbish.

jc's COMMENT: FN may wish to note that Rose wrote about events which are
Facts in living memory...NOT suppositions, Conjecture or Wishful Thinking !

As one who has managed to secure (pro bono BTW) many Goans in professional
positions in the West, I can attest to Rose's Factual position whereas FN
has NO way of knowing & personally experiencing the Facts.

In my view, FN is Rubbishing Facts on the basis of non-knowledge and the
belief of  the Superiority of his intriguing Commie Thinking.

jc

Re: [Goanet] UK - Goan MP Keith Vaz (by Rose Fernandes)

[Jose Colaco]

On 10 September 2016 at 15:07, Rose Fernandes  wrote:

" we once held our heads up high “we are Goans” and there were no problems
looking for work."

COMMENT: Absolutely!  Rose...Absolutely!

jc

Re: [Goanet] Subject: Re: The Keith Vaz Story

[Jose Colaco]

Another view. The full article is worth a read

jc

KATE HOPKINS: " No matter how uncomfortable his dark deeds might make the
missionary massive, Vaz has done nothing illegal. It’s not illegal to
purchase sex and it is not illegal to take poppers whether he did it once
or all summer long."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3776094/Newspapers-right-expose-slippery-Mr-Vaz-public-right-slaver-unless-broken-law-right-tell-mind-moral-business.html



On 6 September 2016 at 04:53, Gabe Menezes  wrote:
>
> COMMENT: Last night his brother-in-law revealed the shamed MP had a family
> dinner in Leicester hours before stripping off with rent boys and
> requesting sex without a condom.
>
> Pedro Fernandes, the brother of the MP’s wife, said his sister would be
> horrified. He said: ‘She will be shocked and find it difficult to believe
> this because it’s so out of character.
>
> ‘We have tried contacting her by phone, but there is no answer. I always
> thought that Vaz and my sister had a happy marriage. He has always been
> dedicated to his work and he is always busy.
>
> ‘He isn’t what you’d call a party animal at all. He normally never drinks –
> maybe a couple of sips of wine – and he never takes drugs. That’s why I
> think it could be made up.’
>
> The Labour MP had been at the family get-together on August 27 with his
> wife and teenage daughter, before he left at around 9.30pm and made his way
> back to London alone – going to the sex flat.
>
>
> Read more:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3775187/Vaz-
> texted-rent-boys-summer-Disgraced-MP-regular-communications-male-
> prostitutes-weeks-exposed-paying-sex.html#ixzz4JSpaGmns
>

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Volunteers

[Jose Colaco]

On 31 August 2016 at 21:32, Mervyn Lobo  wrote

'It must be nit picking season somewhere in the world.Those who have
questioned why abbreviation is such a long word may also know that mistake
is not an error. A reader will gloss over mistake but the same reader may
capture the essence of mistrake :-) "

---



Dear Mervyn

It appears that the Nits might be on the Tigers
and possiblyon the $2000 bhangar :-)
BTW:...the Thesaurus is an interesting site to review synonyms
You may not find the word Mistrake there, even in the 'Splitting Kenss'
section.
But you will certainly find the words Mistake and Error.

Good wishes as always
jc

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Volunteers

[Jose Colaco]

On 30 August 2016 at 22:06, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

"I am well aware that everyone makes mistrakes.  Most people I know
are appreciative
when someone points out an error."

RESPONSE: Thanks ML. Now I know You too are appreciative that your Mistakes
/Mistrakes were pointed out,

Ite Missa Est

Have a wonderful day...all

jc

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Volunteers

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Mervyn

The primary object of my post was two-fold (1) To demonstrate that ALL of
us make errors (2) To request 'us'  to please discontinue this 'Tigerbab'
nonsense - .especially as NONE of us are flawless.

best
jc

On 29 August 2016 at 23:18, Mervyn Lobo <mervyn1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Jose Colaco  wrote:
> > July 23, 2014:
> > jc's  "Splitting Kenss" Comment: There PRESENTLY ARE Tigers in
> > Africa.South Africa ...to be precise...at the Laohu  Valley Reserve,
> to
> > be more precise.
>
>
> Doc,
> Even Roland did not try the nitpicking route. I do not know how tigers in
> Africa came into this conversation but I think you will agree with me that
> tigers are not found in Africa, outside captivity. To be really clear, yes,
> if you are looking for captive animals, you will find tigers in Africa -
> just like you would find their counterparts in New York City.
>
>
> > jc asked Mervyn: The next time you have a chance to visit your DOC, ask
> HIM
> > the following question: "What forms do you or your office have to
> complete
> > in order to get PAID,  and what information (do) you  place on it, albeit
> > in the form of numbers aka ICD codes"?
> >
> > Mervyn responded: No patient has to deal with paper work to get treatment
> > in Ontario. The only time I had to deal with paper work was when someone
> in
> > Goa requested it.
> >
> > jc's COMMENT: Ah, dear Mervyn. I wonder whether you read my post before
> > sending off your response.
>
>
> I am not near a computer and cannot easily refer to the trend on -
> paperwork for medical consultation. As far as doctors are concerned, I do
> not see how any doctor can get paid if s/he does not raise a bill. Even a
> plumber has to raise a bill to get payment from the government. I must have
> misunderstood your original question as my reply was explaining my
> experience with the Ontario health care system. Again, unlike the US, in
> Ontario the patient has no paperwork. If I had/have misunderstood the
> question, all you need to do is ask it again and I will do my best to
> answer.
>
>
> Mervyn
>

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Volunteers

[Jose Colaco]

On 28 August 2016 at 23:26, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

"BTW, how much longer are you going to keep on insisting that there were tigers
in the Canadian wilds?  I would hate anyone mentioning in your eulogy that
you were aka Tigerbab."

==
jc  comment:
>From Goanet Archives re Tiger and more (for easy readingand a
recommendation that "we" continue this NONSENSE  but ONLY if "we"
believe that "we" are the only ones who do NOT make errors.

July 21, 2014:
Mervyn Lobo wrote: " I have to point out that there ARE no tigers in
Africa."

July 23, 2014:
jc's  "Splitting Kenss" Comment: There PRESENTLY ARE Tigers in
Africa.South Africa ...to be precise...at the Laohu  Valley Reserve, to
be more precise.

NOW..(for leisurely reading)

https://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg99719.html (Sat, 16
Nov 2013)

jc asked Mervyn: The next time you have a chance to visit your DOC, ask HIM
the following question: "What forms do you or your office have to complete
in order to get PAID,  and what information (do) you  place on it, albeit
in the form of numbers aka ICD codes"?

Mervyn responded: No patient has to deal with paper work to get treatment
in Ontario. The only time I had to deal with paper work was when someone in
Goa requested it.

jc's COMMENT: Ah, dear Mervyn. I wonder whether you read my post before
sending off your response.

Re: [Goanet] WHY DID CHIEF MINISTER LAXMIKANT PARSEKAR LIE?

[Jose Colaco]

On 25 August 2016 at 08:06, Aires Rodrigues 
wrote:

(1) Goa’s Deputy Speaker Vishnu Wagh ... was...admitted to the Goa Medical
College and being brain dead was airlifted to Hinduja hospital in
Mumbai.

(2) Chief Minister Laxmikant Parsekar needs to explain to the people of Goa
as to why he knowingly misled us all by falsely stating that Vishnu Wagh’s
health condition was STABLE...

(3) Vishnu Wagh’s health prognosis may be gloomy but let us continue
praying for our multi talented and ever so versatile Vishnu Wagh.


jc Comment:

I am perplexed here. Do patients in Goa have a Right to Medical
Confidentiality? IF so, HOW on earth do we have Aires Rodrigues making all
these statements about the health of patients admitted to GMC?

I understand why Aires states that the 'health prognosis' of a 'brain dead'
person 'MAY be gloomy' . He is obviously clueless about ''medical matters'
- unless English is a difficult language.

Now to the matter of Mr. Parsekar's "LIE" !

My questions are (a) What is a LIE? (b) What is the meaning of the term
"Stable"? - especially when spoken by a politician? (c) Did / Does Mr.
Parsekar have the Right to violate Mr. Wagh's Right to Patient
Confidentiality ? or Is there some Exclusion clause which applies to
politicians?

jc

Re: [Goanet] GOA PRAYS WHILE OUR TIGER BATTLES IT OUT

[Jose Colaco]

(A) re: the following from Aires Rodrigues: " Doctors do not rule out that
Vishnu Wagh might have missed out on vital and critical treatment while at
the Goa Medical College."

(B) Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão commented thus:: "Aires, please don't
shoot in the dark!. Don't bring here cross examination tactics...NO DOCTOR
CAN EVER state that there was any deficiency in treatment given, unless
there is concrete evidence; even when best and expert treatment was
given. Please
don't try to plant doubts in people's mind with your lawyer's brains.

Please; Do not venture into the medical field when one is unaware..."


(C)   jc Comment:

I believe that Dr Falcão is on the right track.

However, I'd give Aires the opportunity to explain himself.i.e WHICH Vital
and critical treatment did Mr. Wagh miss out on while at GMC.?

Of course, IF Aires merely 'mis-spoke' from his hip...He will not respond
to this.

Andwe will understand.

jc

Re: [Goanet] my column in today's OHeraldo

[Jose Colaco]

COMMENT:

I wonder if the Heraldo has lost its standards. Cannot explain How such a
crappy alleged-article by a senior alleged-journalist was printed.

It is now, well accepted that while ALL of us make occasional errors, this
Eugene Correia makes them in almost every post. His oft repeated excuse is
that he does not read what he writes before submission. That, he assumes, I
believe, is the task of the (say) Heraldo editors. RICHVERY RICH !

This Correia article refers to an allegedly STEERING Speech delivered by
Nehruand refers to Lata's song at the NATIONAL STADIUM (Was it at the
National Stadium? or at another ground circa 4 miles to the North ?)

The rest of Eugene's post is replete with his usual circular nonsense.

Will not comment at this time on the alleged Peace & Sweetie loving chap
who invaded Hyderabad and Goa.

jc



On 15 August 2016 at 08:14, Eugene Correia  wrote:

> Independence and its discontents
>
> Eugene Correia




> It was on the eve of Independence Day that Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru

delivered his memorable speech, A Tryst With Destiny, to the Constituent
Assembly, and the next day he triumphantly proclaimed from the ramparts of
the Red Fort that India has woken up to a new dawn. It was a STEERING
speech which till today brings tears to my eyes, just as the tune of " Aye
mere watan ke logo", which translates into English as " O! the people of my
country. The soulful lyrics and the emotional rendering of the patriotic
song by none other than one of the greatest Goans, Lata Mangeskhar, in the
NATIONAL STADIUM  in 1963, brought tears to Nehru's eyes.
Moved by the song, Nehru is said to have remarked, “ Those who don't feel
inspired by ' Aye mere watan ke logo' don't deserve to be called a
Hindustani.” This patriotic song is revered and reverberates across the
length and breadth of India on every Independence Day. On this auspicious
day, we pledge our allegiance to our motherland and celebrate the freedom
that many Indians, though Goans in Goa were still under colonial rule but
some had their hearts and soul in British India, fought for and died for.
The deep, thoughtful words of the Mangeshkar song and the stirring words of
Nehru’s speech will forever remain in my memory till I die. I will die an
Indian, though TECHNICALLY I am now a Canadian citizen.
I was called an anti- Indian by some Hindu Indians in Toronto after I wrote
a denunciatory report on the then India’s consul- general Chandra Mohan
Bandari whose act of filming an exhibition at Toronto’s famous tourist
landmark, Harbourfront, put up by the group owing loyalty to one of India’s
progressive leftist group. It was only because some Hindu friends of mine
informed these pro- consulate Hindus that I am a thorough Indian and what I
wrote is right in the context that Harbourfront officials were angry at the
consul’s behaviour.
It diminished the status of India’s consular representative who could
easily have asked any person from the groups who are close to the consulate
to do the filming instead of himself going there with a camcorder in hand.
Criticising Indian consular staff or also the Indian government should not
be considered as same as criticising India.
We have seen the way the present government and its legion of supporters,
including some hard line groups that owe allegiance to the BJP, accuse
those who cross swords with those in power are termed “ anti- national.” No
wonder that the now demoted minister, Smriti Irani, has been mockingly
called “ aunty national.” To me, it seems that Ms Irani had become too big
for her shoes.
The way she was going about “ saffronizing” the educational system, it
could be a national tragedy if she had continued in the position as HRD
minister.
No wonder the Twitter world went buzzing when Modi, prodded by BJP
president Amit Shah, had this heavyweight of a minister shifted to mind
India’s textile policy. Maybe she was turning out to be a political “ hot
potato” and was possibly seen as a liability to BJP’s political future,
particularly when the party is gearing for the assembly elections in some
states, including Goa.
Where I live, some trees are showing early signs of shedding their green
colour. Eh, as they say in Canada, Autumn is approaching. It seems Autumn
has already set in the BJP government, with Modi having changed colour. He
is now suddenly appearing to be close to the Dalits. If Modi is wooing
Dalits, Amit Shah was having lunch with a Dalit family. Shah was obviously
looking for a photo- op. In the beloved Gujarat of both Modi and Shah, the
Dalits are in arms. The atrocities committed against Dalits are nerve-
wrecking.
Now appeasement seems to be a political tool. Wasn’t it was the same BJP
who berated other political parties, especially the Congress, for appeasing
the minorities? To me, the Unity in Diversity slogan is just that — a
slogan.
Today, Narendra Modi will climb the ramparts of Red Fort and thunder away,
praising the government’s 

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Jose Colaco]

On 14 August 2016 at 13:46, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

ML 1: "In desperation, Trump has shifted his focus from urging people to
vote for him to urging people to vote for his list of Supreme Court
nominees. I find it inconceivable that Trump thinks that there are people
in the USA that are more important than him. The 'vote for my Supreme Court
nominees' is a scare tactic - aimed at those who give in easily to fear."

jc 1: Mervyn...IF you do NOT know the crucial effect of this election on
the SC appointmentsYou just do not know. Please stay ignorant.

==
ML 2: "Similarly, your treat of pointing out my "major Booboo" is an
act of desperation.
As such, I would spur you on to present your reminder here."

jc 2: Will absolutely do so immediately after Gold touches $ 2000

jc

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Jose Colaco]

On 13 August 2016 at 09:59, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या
*فريدريك نورونيا  wrote:

> Cecil, Could you tell us which parts of Roland's arguments you
> disagree with any why?



Dear CecilIn his post FN added the following quote: " Fallacious ad
hominem reasoning is normally categorized as an informal
fallacy,[4][5][6] more precisely as a genetic fallacy, a subcategory
of fallacies
of irrelevance."

Please note, dear Cecil, that FN was referring to FALLACIOUS !

BTW: I notice that the usually gracious Mervyn Lobo has reverted to the
"Canadian Tigers" story. I wonder IF Mervyn wishes to be reminded of his
own "major Booboo"

In summary: All of us make errors. Let us remember to Cast the First
Stone...ONLY IF we are Flawless !

Ola Eugene !

jc

Re: [Goanet] Parrikar and Trump

[Jose Colaco]

On 13 August 2016 at 08:47, Cecil Pinto  wrote:

"Dear Roland, Mervyn has proven time and again that your knowledge and
understanding of
USA politics and Global Economics is flawed, to say the least."

Dear Cecil,

On what basis are you stating that Mervyn's proof contra Roland really
is the PROOF ?

jc

Re: [Goanet] Donald Trumps in Idiocy

[Jose Colaco]

On 10 August 2016 at 10:59, Joao Barros-Pereira  wrote:

"When Donald Trump has finished with the presidential chair he might well
make Monica Lewinsky resemble a nun and Bill Clinton a priest."

COMMENT:

After reading Joao Barros-Pereira's rather bizarre posts wrt Goa and India,
I wonder what the Donald would make of Joao Barros-Pereira.


jc

Re: [Goanet] Remembering Neville

[Jose Colaco]

Muchas Gracias VJP
Muchas Gracias

What else can I say (:-)

BTW:  Eugene is a good guy. Gets his buttons punched far too easily, though.
He knows, however, that we love him.
If not, we would have ignored his posts..


On 7 August 2016 at 20:49, Venantius J Pinto <venantius.pi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Be kind, be kind. jc, do no follow my old ways
> As my mother would say: Iferno esta cheio.
>
> Em alegria,
>
> —Venantius J Pinto
>
> On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Jose Colaco <cola...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Eugene Correia <eugene.corr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Eugene(1) India holds one record in Olympic history, and that is the only
> > player to score a hat-trick in soccer. The glory belongs to Neville
> > D'Souza, a magician with the ball.
> >
> > jc 1: Incorrect. While Neville remains the only Indian to score a
> hat-trick
> > in Olympic soccer (football), he is NOT the only player to do so.
> >
> > Eugene(2) Neville..I will always remember him for the time we had on
> > the streamer from Goa to Bombay .. WE DRANK LOT OF FENI and talked
> > football.
> >
> > jc 2: No wonder that chap Nehru and other Indians thought that Goans were
> > drunks
> >
> > ps: That is yet another Screamer / Streamer from Eugene
> >
> > jc
>

Re: [Goanet] Remembering Neville

[Jose Colaco]

Eugene Correia  wrote:

Eugene(1) India holds one record in Olympic history, and that is the only
player to score a hat-trick in soccer. The glory belongs to Neville
D'Souza, a magician with the ball.

jc 1: Incorrect. While Neville remains the only Indian to score a hat-trick
in Olympic soccer (football), he is NOT the only player to do so.

Eugene(2) Neville..I will always remember him for the time we had on
the streamer from Goa to Bombay .. WE DRANK LOT OF FENI and talked
football.

jc 2: No wonder that chap Nehru and other Indians thought that Goans were
drunks

ps: That is yet another Screamer / Streamer from Eugene

jc

Re: [Goanet] Pune Goans

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Mervyn

My guess: UNLIKELY

The Poona Goan Institute is in the Quarter Gate area

The stated address of the "Pune Goans Social Union" is several mile to the
SE

jc

On 28 July 2016 at 10:10, Mervyn Maciel 
wrote:

> I was recently in touch with a friend who knows Pune well and whose
> brother in fact lives there.
> This is what she had to say:
>
> "In Pune there is the PGI, Poona Goan Institute where Goans meet at
> functions. It is an association started many years ago but is still active.
> "
>
> Would this be the same as the "Pune Goans Social Union"??
>
> Sending this info. for what it is worth.
>
>
> Mzee Mervyn
>

Re: [Goanet] Dubai To Goa - Rape and Jackpot Journalism

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Roland.

You are a good man...and hence I will only say this:

Cross Examination is a specific term.. It is usually done by the lawyer for
the defence. It follows Direct Examination by the prosecution. It would be
very incongruous for MB to be subjected to "cross-examination to get out
information from him as to who from the Herald leaked information about the
"memo"

good wishes

jc

On 24 July 2016 at 12:56, Roland  wrote:

> You cannot fault Eugene for this. Interrogation and cross examination are
> both questioning methods are they not?
>
> Unexploded, partially exploded and exploded grenades are all grenades, are
> they not?
>
> Roland Francis
> Toronto.
>
> > On Jul 24, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Jose  wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 23, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Eugene Correia 
> wrote:
> > "As I understand this case, Maya would be subject to cross-examination to
> > get out information from him as to who from the Herald leaked information
> > about the "memo"
> >
> > Comment: As I understand it, Eugene Correia may benefit from looking up
> the meaning of Cross-Examination.
> >
> > jc
>

Re: [Goanet] #JackpotJournalism deveIopments: I have been summoned by Crime Branch in hacking, data theft case

[Jose Colaco]

On 23 July 2016 at 10:59, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

' every journalist in Goa will switch to reporting on feni,coconut TREES
and the beaches'

COMMENT: I doubt that any of the Lapdogs are writing anything about .Coconut
TREES

Coconut GRASS, perhaps .but unlikely Coconut TREES

jc

Re: [Goanet] #JackpotJournalism deveIopments: I have been summoned by Crime Branch in hacking, data theft case

[Jose Colaco]

Based of what I have seen and read, I believe that Mayabhushan MUST be
supported by the Goa Union of Journalists.

Based on what I believe will happen, the GUJ will NOT go and bat for him at
full strength. I am NOT sure how many of the Goa Journos will support him
publicly ab inicio.

Ultimately, the questions will be for the courts: (1)  WAS what MB wrote
accurate or not? (2) Did MB's expose in the public interest or not?

jc

On 23 July 2016 at 06:00, Mayabhushan  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have been summoned on Monday morning by the Goa Police Crime Branch in
> connection with a case filed by the Herald management which implicates me
> in offences like data theft and hacking.
>
> Below is a letter I have written to the local media body, the Goa Union of
> Journalists, complaining of harassment by the media organisation for
> bringing out a story on media corruption in public interest via social
> media.
>
> Best regards
> Mayabhushan
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear friends in the GUJ executive committee
>
> You may have been aware of the developments surrounding the
> #JackpotJournalism story, which I had filed on social media earlier this
> month.
> You may also be aware, that the Herald management in a complaint filed
> before the Crime Branch's Cyber Cell, has tried to implicate me as having
> had a hand in hacking and data theft which led to the leak of an internal
> memo. As a result, I am required to be present at the above stated office
> on
> Monday at 10:30 am.
> The memo, which I had also uploaded on social media, confirms that chunks
> of editorial news in the Herald newspaper, have to be pre-approved by the
> sales department, unlike the tall claims made in the newspaper's front page
> Open Edit.
> Incidentally, the very fact that they filed a complaint with the Crime
> Branch, also proves the authenticity of the memo. It proves that news in
> the Herald, indeed, is shackled by sales processes and decisions.
> Our job as journalists, is to source information from public and private
> enterprises and place what's important and in public interest, in the
> public domain. Our job requires us to tell readers and viewers, about how
> the piece of sourced information affects or could affect their lives.
> Today, the Herald has tried to 'fix' me with this criminal complaint for
> publishing a leaked company document. Tomorrow and henceforth, any company
> or government agency could file a complaint under the IT act, accusing a
> journalist of hacking their database to obtain the data, if he or she files
> a story in public interest based on such  document/s.
> Hope you understand the perils and dangers that such a precedent could set
> for sincere and genuine reportage.
> At this stage I would like to (like I have in my FB post) unequivocally
> state that I have not hacked any email or committed data theft. I was given
> the information by people who are unhappy (and there are many) with the
> unethical practices at the newspaper which were exposed by the
> #JackpotJournalism story.
> To refresh your collective memories, the #JackpotJournalism story shows how
> deputy general manager (sales) Adwait Dessai attached to the Herald
> newspaper and his colleagues use strong-arm tactics to muscle through a Rs.
> 25 lakh-per-casino-per-month 'advertising' deal from a representative of
> the casino industry.
> Desai also alleges how management pressure has ensured that several news
> stories related to the real estate lobby and the casino industry were
> killed there.
> One thing of particular interest to GUJ, could be how Adwait goes on to say
> in a sweeping statement, that reporters indulge in extortion.
> Anyway, the reason for my writing to you is to complain about efforts made
> by Herald, a newspaper which boasts of investigative journalism, to silence
> genuine Whistle Blowers.
> Instead of trying to initiate corrective measures institutionally, they
> have, with the criminal complaint, tried to cower down their own
> whistle-blowers and tried to implicate me, a member of GUJ, into the
> affair.
> My complaint is that, with the filing of the criminal complaint, attempts
> are being made to harass me (as a whistle-blower myself in this case),
> solely because I placed sensitive information, as exposed in
> #JackpotJournalism and on other occasions, in the public domain and in
> public interest.
> When someone buys a newspaper for Rs. X, there is an unspoken contract
> between the buyer and the newspaper, that the information given to the
> reader is genuine and editorially processed. What #JackpotJournalism
> exposed was a blatant violation of that contract with back-end news
> compromising deals.
> GUJ should also back the cause of the unsung whistle-blowers who have
> helped me obtain the information and who are now being unfairly targeted by
> their employers for being selfless servants of public interest.
> I leave the choice of honouring this request to your good sense.
>
> Best regards

Re: [Goanet] Murder after Liberation

[Jose Colaco]

 I have posted the following (in response) on Goanet FB and Goa Speaks FB

"At a time when a good number of us are horrified by the penchant of these
animals (masquerading as men) to be violent towards women I am outraged by
this chap Eugene Correia​ who posted (on Goanet)  the following without
criticizing the act: " It was sad that she fell "victim" to the Jawans'
anger on being refused to  buy foreign cigarettes by Manuel, who was
pro-Portuguese." Shame on you Eugene Correia."






On 22 July 2016 at 13:16, Roland  wrote:

> A grenade does not partly explode. It either explodes or it doesn't (a
> dud).
>
> Indian army personnel do not throw a grenade on a defenceless woman in
> revenge for not being sold cigarettes by her relative.
>
> Roland Francis
> Toronto.
>
> > On Jul 21, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Eugene Correia 
> wrote:
> >
> > In Niz Goenkar, the following appeared. Since I don't contribute to NG, I
> > would like to state here my views, as I believe the owner is on Goanet.
> > *==*
> > *FRANCO FERNANDES*
> >
> > Wednesday - Jul 20, 2016
> >
> > @ Ignatius Bab, A Chimpanzee posses an average IQ of 40 and Eugene
> Correia
> > is a IQ level below 20 Pro-Indian Homo Erectus Journalist.
> >
> > Eugene Correia is aware of the Atrocities Committed by Indian Army in Goa
> > post 19th December 1961. Eugene Correia had written an Article on Luisa
> > Rodrigues ( Today, Fifty Years Ago: A cry in the dark) Published on
> Herald
> > 16 January 2012.
> >
> > According to my Research Luisa Rodrigues Body was Mangled after grenade
> was
> > thrown on her by Indian Army and she died on Spot. There is also Picture
> of
> > her Mangled Body on the Newspaper (THE CURRENT).
> >
> > But Eugene Correias Version on Luisa Rodrigues Death is very strange -
> > Quote “The grenade did not explode fully. As she was rushed to the Margao
> > Hospital, Luzy repeatedly asked for water. She was conscious till her
> very
> > last moment and asked in agony – and astonishment, “What is happening to
> > me?” Unquote
> >
> > Can a Mangled Dead Body ask for Water or Speak ? This clearly Proves
> Eugene
> > Correia is a IQ level below 20 Homo Erectus.
> >
> > I had Published this Research on May 21, 2013 on Goa-Invasion-1961 Blog
> you
> > can see the Picture of Luisa Rodrigues Mangled Body.
> >
> >
> http://goa-invasion-1961.blogspot.in/2013/05/goans-killed-by-indian-troops-1961-62.htm
> >
> > 
> >
> > Commenting on my IQ is one thing, commenting on my article is another.
> > Franco found my version "very strange". The quote is from Luisa's cousin
> > who carried her to the Margoa Hospital. I am not referring to the article
> > right now, but I think I gave the name of the person. I give it again.
> He's
> > Fulgencio Rodrigues, once president of the Goa Toddytappers Association.
> >
> > Manuel Santana Rodrigues DID'NT own a "restaurant" but he owned a POSORO
> > (convenience store).  Luisa's legs were shattered with pieces stuck on
> the
> > walls of her room.
> >
> > My uncle, Felix Valois Rodrigues, a freedom fighter and a journalist,
> > helped the Rodrigues family in Delhi, where he was working for The Indian
> > Express. The family got compensation but the family, particularly the
> > mother, refused.
> >
> > Another nugget of information, though not related to the Liberation
> story,
> > is that Manuel Rodrigues is the Godfather of the famed tiatrist M. Boyer,
> > whose initial M stands for Manuel.
> >
> > It was sad that she fell "victim" to the Jawans' anger on being refused
> to
> > buy foreign cigarettes by Manuel, who was pro-Portuguese. Luisa sister
> > lives in Margoa in case Franco wants to meet her. Her brother lives in
> > Dabolim. And lastly, Fulgencio is still alive in Bogmalo. Please go to
> them
> > and i would help further in your research. Maybe your IQ on the
> > Liberation/Annexation history will also increase, perhaps ten-fold then
> > mine. I don't where you live Franco but if you're in Goa I could get you
> > access to them.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Eugene Correia
>

Re: [Goanet] Modi's Priorities

[Jose Colaco]

On 21 July 2016 at 11:07, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

'Given the choice between providing toilets for a nation or a space program,
the choice is easy for any PM.'

Dear Mervyn,

Why does the nation need toilets?
Much of the whole place is reportedly...a Toilet !

jc

[Goanet] Bigotry towards Goans with Portuguese Nationality ?

[Jose Colaco]

Bigotry towards Goans with Portuguese Nationality ?

A good number of young Goans have opted to reaffirm their (exercise their
right) to Portuguese Nationality. In many a ways, they are NO different
from those erstwhile Goans who travelled to Africa (with Portuguese,
British, Indian nationality etc), and then on to the UK, US, Canada etc.

Almost invariably, every single of the above referenced Goan migrants left
home with a heavy heart, for better prospects in a strange land, worked
hard under difficult situations and still made it. It could be said that
despite the 'Caste and Profession' bigotry which existed among those
migrants (esp in British Africa), in general, they all did well.

Many, but not all, of these migrants (1) migrated to the UK - even ones who
had strong anti-colonial feelings (2) still have a strong love for Africa -
even those who opted for colonial nationality over the African nationality
(3) still have strong anti-Portuguese sentiments - even though a number of
their forebears travelled to Africa on Portuguese passports and/or never
lived in Portuguese Africa (4) decided to retire in India - some opting to
remigrate to the UK or Australia or Canada.

What sometimes comes through in 2016 (and a few years antes) is the rather
condescending attitude from some of the UK-established Goans towards the
NEW Goan migrants who have travelled to Europe by virtue of their
Portuguese nationality.

Is it because (a) the new migrants are poorer than the well settled ones
(b) the new migrants are of a 'lower caste' or Is it because of some
underlying bigotry towards the Portuguese ?

I wish the new (and not so new) Portuguese Goans well. My advice to them
is: Never Mind the Negative Forces. You will succeed if you  Work Hard,
Better Yourself educationally, Save Money, Invest in a home and NOT get
into acts of violence etc,.

Re: [Goanet] For what it is worth

[Jose Colaco]

Mervyn,

It is good that you found out...one way or another.

I am not as tech-savvy as I imagine you guys are. Even so, I have the
following checklist before I reach to a conclusion:  (1) Junk folder (2) My
settings on Goanet (3) My own browser (4) Goanet archives

If what I wrote was that important, I would send it up again. If not...I
just forget about it.

best

jc
==

On 28 April 2016 at 23:26, Mervyn Lobo  wrote:

> Darn!
>
> I looked at the gmail spam section and all the missing posts are there.
>
> Thanks for the tip josephgoa but now I feel embarrassed - and also
> despondent that I have been missing out on so many posts. Most of the posts
> in the spam section were from people who have yahoo addresses. It seems
> strange that as I can read their emails on other groups, so there must be
> some sort of technical hitch here.
>
> Anyways, had I kept quiet, I would not have been able to resolve this
> matter.
>
> Mervyn
> ==
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 5:09 AM, Joseph  wrote:
>
> > Just for you information :
> >
> > A lot of  Goanet messages  go into the SPAM  box in Gmail.
> > So I think you should also check that.
>

[Goanet] EASTER GREETINGS from here

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Goans

The best of Easter greetings to us all and our families

jc

Re: [Goanet] CLINICAL TRIALS RULES HAVE COME UP NOW. AND GMC WAS SLEEPING EARLIER?

[Jose Colaco]

On 12 November 2015 at 12:59, Santosh Helekar <chimbel...@gmail.com> wrote:

It looks like the reporter is confused about what is meant by Ethics committee.
An Ethics committee is a committee of medical and regulatory experts who
are based in the institution conducting the research. There is no other
"government" committee that rules on ethical issues about a research
protocol. The only new addition in this case appears to be a government
approval regarding financial sponsorship, which did not exist before.


My dear Santoshbab,

I wonder if the TOI writer has had any formal training in medicine, law or
in ethics. I really doubt it. Even so, she is only what we call a
'patracar' ie. One who does not need to answer any questions or reveal the
names of 'officials' or 'sources' she has 'quoted'.

How do we, the janta, really know for sure if what is quoted is accurate?
We don't!

In the mean time,  as per the TOI report "Professor and HoD of TB and CD
department of GMC Dr A M Mesquita and Dr Lalita Fernandes were placed under
suspension pending vigilance inquiry for conducting clinical trials
allegedly without taking prior permission from competent authority".

I am troubled by Prof. Anthony Mesquita's public silence. Perhaps, he knows
better. If I was in an unfair situation, I would have sought a Judicial
Review of my suspension. But then, I am not Prof. Anthony Mesquita.

I do not know ALL the facts of this case, and I sincerely hope that Drs.
Mesquita and Fernandes have/had taken the needed steps before commencing
the 'trial; Obviously, laws are not applicable in retrospect.

My gut feeling is that there is something else involved here.  Otherwise, I
cannot envisage the tarnishing of a Senior Professor at GMC. Just imagine
the domino effect on Health Care in Goa.

I hope I am wrong.

jc

>From the Net (as searched on Nov 12, 2015 ):

(1) A (past) letter to Dr. Mesquita
http://www.ctri.nic.in/Clinicaltrials/WriteReadData/ethic/292848183GOA_15APR11.pdf

(2) Recuse: This could give us a clue to the protocol prevalent at Ethics
Committee hearings. (It is very similar to what You and I are accustomed
to):
http://www.ctri.nic.in/Clinicaltrials/WriteReadData/ethic/2823133746GoaEThicsCommitteeApproval.pdf



On 12 November 2015 at 12:59, Santosh Helekar <chimbel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It looks like the reporter is confused about what is meant by Ethics
> committee. An Ethics committee is a committee of medical and
> regulatory experts who are based in the institution conducting the
> research. There is no other "government" committee that rules on
> ethical issues about a research protocol. The only new addition in
> this case appears to be a government approval regarding financial
> sponsorship, which did not exist before.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Jose Colaco <cola...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dear Mr. Stephen Dias,
> >
> > I have meant to write a response to your post for some time but work got
> the
> > better of me..
> >
> > While I do not know ALL the facts of the case, I am troubled by the basic
> > premise of much
> > of the TOI article.
> >
> > Here are my concerns:
> >
> > 1: I wonder if Ms Chari did or did not do due diligence before publishing
> > this article.
> > 2: Is it her understanding that Dr. Anthony Mesquita did not obtain the
> > required approval from the
> > Ethics Committee et al before commencing the trial?
> > 3: Is it also her understanding that Dr. Anthony Mesquita did not Recuse
> > himself from the meeting
> > at which Research proposal was vetted?
> > 4: Did Ms. Chari sit down with Dr. Mesquita and get the word from the
> > horse's mouth?
> >
> > Knowing The Mesquita brothers well for  very long time, I would be
> shocked
> > if Dr, Anthony had not
> > obtained appropriate approval prior to commencing the study?
> >
> > jc
> >
> > ps: I also note that Dr. Anthony has been very silent on this matter. I
> wish
> > he would speak and
> > provide a public response.
> >
> >
> > On Nov 2, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Stephen Dias <steve.dia...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Dr. Pradeep Naik,
> > Dean Goa Medical College and Hospital
> > Bambolim
> >
> > Sir,
> >
> > Now, that  you have issued a late departmental  Circular to all your
> > department heads/section of GMC, saying that prior permission is a must
> for
> > conducting clinical trials at your Goa Medical College, than the
> suspension
> > issued to these doctors must be revoked immediately so that their image
> is
> > not tarnished further, for no fault of theirs.
> > What you were doing when these clinical trials were reported and that you
> 

Re: [Goanet] IS IT A DADAGUIRI OF MEDICAL COUNCIL OF INDIA?

[Jose Colaco]

On 12 October 2015 at 00:32, Santosh Helekar  wrote:

"I am puzzled by the news reports in Herald and Navhind Times regarding
clinical trials at GMC and in private hospitals in Goa. I am not sure what
the illegalities are. Perhaps, only someone like Josebab can throw some
light on this matter, if he knows the details of this case.

But from reading the reports it seems to me that: 1) Goa government has no
established policies, rules and regulations regarding the conduct of
clinical trials, 2) the journalists who wrote the reports and the persons
who lodged the complaints believe that somehow conducting a clinical trial
itself is wrong, unethical or illegal, and 3) the latter individuals also
believe that attending medical scientific conferences abroad to present the
results of the trials is also wrong, unethical or illegal. The trials were
apparently approved by an ethics committee at GMC. The only problem I see
here is that Dr. Mesquita might have a conflict of interest, assuming he
did not recuse himself in respect of his own trials, since he was the
chairman of the committee. But I am not sure whether or not the government
has any strict conflict of interest rules in this regard. All this can be
clarified by someone who actually knows the facts of this case, and is not
misinformed about the importance of clinical trials in medicine and the
enormous expenditure involved in conducting them"

My dear Santoshbab,

Both you and I have, on a number of occasions, publicly wished - even on
Goanet itself - that the alleged Goa Journos would consult knowledgeable
physicians before rushing to print garbage.

Both you and I have , on a number of occasions, offered 'pro bono' advice
to a point where we were thought to be 'all knowing'.

But.the 'brilliance' continues.

In the index case, I believe that you are on the right track.

I have asked a few preliminary questions; I might need to ask follow up
ones. I do not know yet.

Knowing at least One physician personally - for a long time, I have reason
to believe that Medicine may NOT be the focus of this drama.

My text books of Land Law + Trust and Equity Law have probably brainwashed
me.

ps: If and When I receive the answers to my questions, I will  keep the
information confidential - until released from that promise.  I trust that
the matter will be resolved soon. It is NOT only the physicians who will
suffer. Medicine itself will take a serious hit.

Journalists must understand that IT is NEVER a good thing when Institutions
like Freedom of the Press, Justice and Medicine get unwarranted and
irresponsible hits.

Once again, I say to the Journos. If you need helpASK !

best

jc

Re: [Goanet] IS IT A DADAGUIRI OF MEDICAL COUNCIL OF INDIA?

[Jose Colaco]

On 10 October 2015 at 00:27, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão <
drferdina...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear StephenDias,



> Are you aware that there was illegal Clinical trial going on in GMC?
>
> http://epaperoheraldo.in/Details.aspx?id=16045=18134596==10/10/2015
>
> Are you aware that Regulations exist in the conducting of clinical Trials?
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4215498/


Dear Dr. Falcao,

I believe that Mr. Stephen Dias is making a good point esp with reference
to the alleged "2 hour notice" given to doctors to get a hold of their
medical certificates.

You will agree, No Doubt, that every action has to be reasonable IF it is
not to be construed as being High Handed and Disrespectful - not only to
the doctors but also to the profession itself.

 With reference to the Research at GMC, until one knows ALL the facts of
the case, it might be appropriate ( I submit) to characterize, at best,  it
as Allegedly Illegal.and NOT illegal.

One of the doctors (Anthony Mesquitta) has the reputation of being a
straight forward and honest person. I happen to know him personally . It is
possible that the steps he apparently took (going through the Ethics
Committee etc) are not enough. He may or may not have erred. But that does
not make him dishonest. The same with the other doctors. We shall see.

Without entering into the realm of Professional Envy and the World Famous
in Goa 'Kosparency', I recommend that we ascertain ALL the facts of the
case before we 'Cast Stones' at honourable people.

As an aside, the Headline in Target Goa
http://www.targetgoa.com/goabuzzdet.php?bzid=7169&=12 was gratuitous.
What has the BJP got to do with Dr. Anthony Mesquitta? Has he got where he
has because of his brother's connections with the BJP?

good wishes

jc

[Goanet] On the matter of Sexual Abuse & Rape (Goa)

[Jose Colaco]

On the matter of Sexual Abuse & Rape (Goa)

As one who, for 20+ years, has (pro bono) worked and on a number of
occasions testified at the SC level in the field of Sexual Abuse, I'd like
to place the following thoughts before us all:
1: Sexual Abuse and Rape are NOT a crimes of passion but one of Violence.
2: Because of the nature of the crimes, they often goes unreported
especially not-so-open societies like in India.
3: The crimes which get addictive and worse with time.
4: We all need to educate ourselves and our children about them.
5: We need to set up support mechanisms in our families and work places (in
addition to those red-taped ones required by law). The earlier we stop this
crime in its tracks, the easier it will be for everybody.
6: Whatever we do, we must protect the victims. Whatever our zeal for
'justice'; We must always remember our Society is NOT very kind to a
victim, especially the Female victim. We do anything to even tangentially
identify the victim, she is done for life.

On the other side of the coin, we must be mindful of the following:
7: The law as at-present merits serious review. It cannot be that an
alleged murderer is considered Innocent unless proved Guilty while an
alleged Sexual Abuser is considered Guilty unless he proves himself
Innocent. Somewhere, down the road, a Good Case will be overturned and lost
upon appeal because of this.
8: The application of the law also needs to be uniform, fair and
reasonable. Is there any justification for the Penile Potency Test on
Tejpal, besides the desire to teach him a lesson?
9: There have been false accusations against individuals. A good case to
remember is the one wherein some Goa Art College students were false
accused, arrested and held (a mild word) in custody.
10: Every Bogus case which comes up to court on emotion and without proper
work up, destroys the credibility of future cases.
11: Every case must be worked up by specially qualified and trained
professionals who endeavour to do their best and honestly.
12: The following is an UK case where the system could have done better:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/06/sex-abuse-claim-against-leon-brittan-began-as-joke-bbc-report

Re: [Goanet] Sexual harassment case at Goa Cable News Channel takes a 'Tehelka' turn

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Reena,

Enjoyed reading your post. You are my vision of a good journalist ie One
who Thinks, Researches, Questions-self of the points written and Accepts
contra-comments if any. I regret that we currently do not have too many
Goan journos who are like you, Olga Tellis and Pamela D'Mello.

My comment on a few of your points:
RM 1: The story does not carry quotes from the ‘victim’ and ‘perpetrator’
but it is insufficient to prove that Mayabhushan has not spoken to (or
known) them.

jc 1: Until Mayabhushan (MB) specifically confirms or denies that he knows
and/or has had personal dealings with either or both of them, it is safe to
assume (until proved otherwise) that MB knows the alleged perpetrator
personally.
==

RM 2: As we have seen, time and again, news of such incidents only cause
the woman victim untold grief. There is curiosity about her identity,
character and antecedents, and even before a formal complaint has been
filed, the jury is out and her name is made mud.

jc 2: Absolutely !  No IFs and BUTs about that.
==

RM 3: The Sexual Harassment of Women at the Workplace (Prevention,
Prohibition and Redressal) Act, 2013

jc 3: A rambling Act which literally forces the 'aggrieved woman' to seek
legal counsel.
==

RM 4: But good news, once again, comes as the Supreme Court’s judgement in
B C Deva versus State of Karnataka, 2007, which puts the version of a rape
victim above material evidence in proving the crime.

jc 4: I do not believe that the above, as stated, is Good News.

I know that there is Rape and tons of it in India and elsewhere. But, I
submit that it is also very important NEVER to convict anybody of an
unproven charge with Irrevocable consequences...ie Rape and Death Penalty
cases. In the case of Rape and Sexual Harassment, one has to understand
that False Accusations occur too! The Falsely accused too are branded for
life.
==

For obvious reasons, I will NOT refer in a public forum to my own
professional experience with a number of cases at a SC level, but invite
you to THINK back to the case of the unfortunate Goa College of Arts chaps
who were wrongly accused, held in custody and ? beaten up.

We could ALL agree, could we not? that there are sickos among guys as well
as gals.  Is there an Act which protects young men from being sexually
harassed ? Unless 'we' believe that Young Men are unlikely to be sexually
harassed !

So...Is the 2013, until amended, constitutional?

Is believe that we need a lot more education for ALL of us. Inter alia, we
must advise our people that (a) Sexual Harassment is real and occurs at
work as well as at home (b) We should do ALL to prevent that from happening
by avoiding situations which trigger these tragic and destructive events
(c) We all, including journos who report these stories, must understand
that there are many facets to a story. SO, please VERIFY before you destroy
lives. Some of these facets may include Instant Messages and Affairs or
even make-believe (Generic statement; Not saying that any of this occured
in this case) (d) There MUST be a shorter and more facile route from
Occurence to Reporting to Resolution.

Anybody, including 'attached' individuals can become infatuated and fall in
love with anybody else. Sexual Harassment is NOT about love.

jc


On 17 August 2015 at 07:02, reena martins reenamart...@hotmail.com wrote:

Dear JC,You’ve raised some pertinent questions, which would be best
answered by Mayabhushan, but here are my two cents.1. The story does not
carry quotes from the ‘victim’ and ‘perpetrator’ but it is insufficient to
prove that Mayabhushan has not spoken to (or known) them. However, quotes
do lend a story a certain credibility.2. As we have seen, time and again,
news of such incidents only cause the woman victim untold grief. There is
curiosity about her identity, character and antecedents, and even before a
formal complaint has been filed, the jury is out and her name is made mud.
Whether she is rendered unemployable is anyone’s guess. The ‘perpetrator’
on the other hand, is let off with a school masterly warning, not to
mention a promising career.
3. But the good news is that the law does not regard such impediments as
loosely as balcao talk.The Sexual Harassment of Women at the Workplace
(Prevention, Prohibition and Redressal) Act, 2013, defines sexual
harassment as acts (direct or implied) like: (i) physical contact and
advances involving unwelcome and explicit sexual overtures; or(ii) a demand
or request for sexual favours; or(iii) showing pornography against the will
of a woman; or(iv) making sexually coloured remarks; or(v) any other
unwelcome physical, verbal or non-verbal conduct of sexual nature.
Punishment: 1-3 years of simple or rigorous imprisonment.
4. Under the above Act, organisations are supposed to appoint their own
Internal Complaints Committees, but in case they haven’t, the complainant
can approach the Local Complaints Committee appointed by the District
Magistrate or Collector. If she is unable to 

Re: [Goanet] An update on the sexual harassment case ( a response to Venantius)

[Jose Colaco]

On 14 August 2015 at 17:08, Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hope he commits suicide. Do it. Do it you combo.  Please all support his
decision. Push this shithead to do just that.  If the victim is reading
this, talk to me. Do not bend.

Dear Venantius,

I am not sure your advice in toto is either reasonable or safe.

You do NOT (I believe) have ALL the facts of the case.
You do NOT (I believe)  know IF there are any 'contributory' or allied
factors.

I suggest that, in ALL cases, we follow the law and allow the courts to
decide on the facts of any case.

BTW: There is a peculiar interpretation of Abetment of Suicide in India.

If I were youI would encourage her to consult an ethical lawyer...if
she hasn't done so already.

jc

Re: [Goanet] An update on the sexual harassment case in a popular cable news channel....

[Jose Colaco]

Totally weird scenario.

I would have thought that the primary route for handling this would have
been for the alleged-victim to (1) Approach a lawyer, preferably from
Baillancho Saad (2) Report the matter to the Police and take it from there.

If 'aggressive overtures' are being made to prevent the proper course of
justice, there are (or ought to be) appropriate sanctions in the law to
deal with obstruction of justice. Please use them.instead of waiting
for some Vishakha Committee to hold an Inquiry.

The main obstacles would be: (1) It is a She said He said situation (2)
Both sides are unknown or uninvestigated by the investigative reporter yet
(For Heaven's Sake...Ask the alleged perpetrator Na?) (3) IF there is NO
evidence.

This Trial by Media is ridiculous.

File the report and Let the accused confront the accuser in Court, Na!

And Please..Let us hope there is NO Crapola like the Penile Potency test
EVEN IF the Penis is NOT alleged to have been involved.

BTW: I did not see any Investigation updates on Goa Net about that TEST by
any alleged Investigative Reporter.

jc


On 14 August 2015 at 12:01, Mayabhushan mayabhus...@gmail.com wrote:

 An update on the sexual harassment case in a popular cable news channel

 No formal enquiry as mandated under the Vishakha Committee, has begun at
 the news channel, whose top news anchor has been accused of sexual
 harassment by a woman staffer three days ago.

 For now, aggressive overtures are being made to the victim, by the anchor
 to not formally complain to an external agency, even as the victim could
 not report to work today. Sources in the news channel, which also operates
 a newspaper, said that the accused has been 'given' one more day to
 'compromise' the case with the victim and to ensure that she does not
 pursue the case legally.

 Sources close to the victim have alleged that the anchor, also a senior
 print media journalist has threatened to commit suicide, if she comes
 forward with a formal complaint.

 In the past too, the anchor, who has been accused of sexual harassment on
 more than one occasion in the past, has used the ‘suicide’ route to weaken
 the resolve of his victims. And it has worked to his advantage.

 Meanwhile, the victim’s contact details have been forwarded to the Goa
 State Women’s Commission by the undersigned so that she could be contacted
 independently by the Commission.


 ends

Re: [Goanet] Alex's Acid or What do you do about slippery moss?

[Jose Colaco]

While Caustic Soda (aka Lye) is NOT an Acid but a very strong Alkali,
Floriano is right. It is very corrosive and one has to be careful with it.

Considering that the Lye used might affect other matter and plants in the
environment, I wonder if it is worth Trying a more gentle combination of
Vinegar and Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate) to do the needful.

jc

On 13 August 2015 at 00:58, Floriano Lobo floriano.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 Get a kg of caustic soda from Pankar, Mapusa. Make a solution ( it is
 acidic so  do not handle it with raw hands). sprinkle and brush it out.


 On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:10 PM, augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  BTW Alex's number is 904-945-5366
 
  He'll come with his bike and take your car and wash it and bring it
 back..
 
  I hear a carping shout: Ahem... Hey Felix! Did you ask whether I get a
  commission to advertise Alex? No Felix, sadly I don't..
 
  But I do like to promote people who are genuinely helpful and beneficial
 to
  the society around them.
 
  In case you decide to use his services friends, do mention that I had
  recommended him.
  Augusto
 
  On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:58 PM, augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   When it rains heavily in Goa moss begins to grow on cement.
  
   This can become dangerous. Today Alex from Nachinola who runs a bike /
  car
   washing center came to take my red Swift for a wash.
  
   He was just saying, The ground has become slippery... And he stepped
 in
   my moss infested garage and slipped and toppled over.
  
   Very fortunately, nothing happened to him for though he fell on
 concrete
   he didn't fall on his head so my wife and I released a sigh of relief.
  
   Alex regained his composure and said, You should put baking (I think)
   soda (or some such soda) or Acid and fix this. He said he would bring
  acid
   when he came back.
  
   My Home Minister Bibian put some drain cleaning fluid and soda over the
   ground.
  
   Later true to his word when Alex came back with my car he brought acid
  and
   a brush (which he was to leave with me) and said that our efforts were
  not
   enough and poured acid over the ground and with the brush rubbed it
 over
   the mossy ground.
  
   Thank you Alex. If anyone wants to get their car cleaned then go to
 Alex.
   He charges Rs 200/ or Rs 250/ depending upon what service he provides.
   Please ask. I can't remember the charges for washing a bike but I think
  it
   is below Rs 100/
  
   In the meanwhile I have a question to ask you: what do you do when you
   have slippery moss growing on places where you mght step and fall? Do
 you
   have a better solution than Alex's acid?
  
 

Re: [Goanet] The friendly face of corruption in Goa (Devika Sequeira)

[Jose Colaco]

On 13 August 2015 at 15:01, Goanet Reader goanetrea...@gmail.com wrote:

 The friendly face of corruption in Goa

 Devika Sequeira
 devikaseque...@gmail.com


 There may actually be a rainbow at the end of this storm for  the
Congress.  Here's an opportunity for the party to clean  up its act.
There’s a valid reason to keep Churchill and  clan -- not to mention
Godinho and Monserrate -- out of the  picture.  But can the Congress be
expected to ever make the  right moves?

COMMENT:

Indeed !

Very Well Stated !

Enjoyed reading this post.

jc

Re: [Goanet] Alex's Acid or What do you do about slippery moss?

[Jose Colaco]

1:  Floriano Lobo wrote:  Get a kg of caustic soda from Pankar, Mapusa.
Make a solution ( it is
acidic so  do not handle it with raw hands). sprinkle and brush it out.

2:  Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote: Floriano,Caustic soda is an
alkali.  At this point, I would also suggest that you do a little reading
on how acids and alkalis effect the human body and ones health

COMMENT:

While Floriano may have made a slip / error / typo by calling Caustic Soda
an Acid instead of an Alkali, he was making a very, very valid and
important precautionary point.

Strong acids (like Muriatic Acid) and Strong alkalis (like Lye) are very
corrosive - and should be handled with extreme care (just as Floriano has
rightly cautioned us)

As an aside, I am not sure that I would 'roll' my car tires/tyres over an
area which has recently been doused with a strong acid or alkali.or
even breath in that area.

As mentioned earlier: I would first try a weak acid like Household Vinegar
+ Baking Soda

jc

Re: [Goanet] Let's be fair to Kenya

[Jose Colaco]

On 19 July 2015 at 06:20, Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com wrote:

Let us be fair to Kenya.  African authorities could not  have thrown
non-Kenyans out , not even because they were British passport  holders.
They simply left Kenya  because their means of livelihood were curtailed by
the Africanization process.

COMMENT:

There are two ways of 'throwing someone out'

1: Evict
2: Make it very difficult for the 'someone' to make a living and to live.
It is known as the good old Minister of Paperclips
technique...wherein...the unwanted is made irrelevant.

I beieve that AM is right.

The process of Africanization forced (say) Goans to choose between UK,
Indian, Portuguese and Kenyan citizenship. Of importance is the 1969 Trade
and Licensing Act which locked out non-Kenyan businesses. The civil service
was already Africanised.

Those who chose UK citizenship but delayed migrating soon found out that
the UK law was different for them as opposed to native-born (mainly
Caucasian) UK citizens.

India was championing the cause of these folks of Indian descent before
1963. Thereafter, it virtually closed to door on their faces

Those who had Portuguese nationality (mainly Goans and some Gujratis) were
relatively OK. They moved.

A tiny % opted for Kenyan citizenship and stayed on (till the later
violence made them move)

In Goa anyway.That on another day

jc

Re: [Goanet] Dichotomy towards diaspora politicians: How Goa loses out

[Jose Colaco]

VM makes good sense in a well scripted article..

However, his wise counsel is unlikely to be taken up by those who look
towards Goa as an opportunity ie El Dorado.

Besides, if Goa's interests were really at heart, Chacha Nehru would have
asked Goans ab inicio !

I submit that Opinions are ONLY asked IF they are known in advance and IF
they fit into the agenda.

There is a prevailing logic (as Dotor Cui would have said): Tum
Poixe Dhaadtah Zalear Dhaad punn Forrenak Rao. Tujea Xapotamchim Amkam
Goroz Nam !

jc

On 12 July 2015 at 07:45, V M vmin...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Dichotomy-towards-diaspora-politicians/articleshow/48020928.cms

 Front-page news across Indian media recently, when Bobby Jindal became
 the first person of South Asian descent to run for US president.

 The governor of Louisiana is just 44, yet has been a rising star of
 the Republican Party since turning around the fortunes of his state's
 department of health when still in his early 20s.

 In 2006 he became the second Indian-American in the US Congress (the
 first, Dalip Singh Saund of California retired some 50 years earlier).
 In 2007, he became only the second non-white governor of a southern
 state in US history.

 Indian media's reaction to Jindal's announcement was uncritical. But
 the response from other Indian Americans was mostly hostile. This is
 because the candidate represents an extremist fringe in US politics.
 After converting to Catholicism while attending Brown University,
 Jindal has strictly aligned with the religious right-wing of the USA,
 even insisting that creationism (aka 'intelligent design') be taught
 in school biology curricula. Many potential supporters are also
 uncomfortable with Jindal's ostentatious distancing of his public
 identity from his Punjabi Indian roots.

 A slightly more moderate political strategy is pursued by Nikki Haley,
 another Indian-American who became the third non-white governor of a
 southern state, South Carolina, in 2010.

 Like Jindal (who changed his name from Piyush), Haley attempts to
 efface Punjabi Indian origins. Born Nimrata Randhawa into a Sikh
 family, she now identifies as Christian, and supports a doctrinaire
 conservative political agenda, including a hard line on immigration.

 Haley and Jindal are no more Indian than Barack Obama is Kenyan.

 Neither show interest in connecting with their ancestral culture. But
 India still displays an embarrassingly misplaced obsession with them.
 Both were elaborately feted by Prime Minister Narendra Modi at his
 2014 Madison Square Garden-extravaganza in New York. Haley even came
 onstage to share the PM's spotlight (Jindal did not attend, but sent a
 message).

 That jamboree—played endlessly on every television channel in
 India—encapsulates the bizarre national prejudice that rushes to
 selectively lionize a few diaspora migrants in the USA, while a slew
 of dynamic leaders of Goan descent in Portugal and the UK (and beyond)
 are rudely ignored, even when they seek to connect and contribute.

 The bias against diaspora Goans is petty and ridiculous, and
 perpetuates an ongoing tragedy where some of the most talented and
 successful diaspora Indians are forcibly excluded, instead of enlisted
 for their expertise and support.

 Perhaps first among the overlooked is Antonio Costa, charismatic mayor
 of Lisbon who is also the leader of Portugal's Socialist Party.

 Even while Indian media gushes over Jindal, who has zero chance of
 leading the USA, Costa is now the overwhelming favourite to become
 prime minister of Portugal after elections in September.

 The son of ferociously anti-colonial Goan writer Orlando Costa is a
 political star, who engineered an extraordinary makeover for Lisbon.
 Despite extreme economic crisis, it has been transformed into the
 safest, greenest, and most livable big city in Europe.

 In the rival Social Democratic Party camp is Jorge Barretto Xavier,
 Portugal's secretary of state (effectively minister) for culture. The
 Margao-born dynamo is an expert on arts and culture management. Both
 Costa and Barretto Xavier have repeatedly expressed their desire
 (including to this writer) to foster closer ties between Europe and
 India, with Goa and Portugal as an essential conduit. It is an offer
 that would be criminal to neglect.

 More significant diaspora assets sit in the new UK parliament, where
 three MPs proudly trace their roots to Goa.

 Suella Fernandes is just 35, and a rising favourite in the ruling
 Conservative Party. Valerie and Keith Vaz remain the first
 brother-sister duo in parliament since ex-PM David Lloyd-George's
 children 60 years ago.

 Keith Vaz, who retained his seat by a record margin, and is now an
 elder statesman and kingmaker of his Labour Party, is also a proven
 friend of Goa who returns to visit every year. He could be an
 outstanding adviser to the state government or any civil institution
 (Goa University?) visionary enough 

Re: [Goanet] ADVICE II

[Jose Colaco]

This is generic advice:

1: Be very careful with WHO you chose as your Contractor. Cheapest or Most
expensive is NOT always the Best

2: Carefully Review the Contractual Agreement.  Allow NO vague terms in it.

3: If u r not sure, Seek advice from a good lawyer.

4: Personally visit the construction site every week at least

5: Agree ONLY to reasonable payment in advance and then upon segmental
completion.

6: NEVER make changes once construction has commenced.

jc

Re: [Goanet] [GOABOOKCLUB] REVIEW: Goa: Terceira Corrente (Dr Francisco Colaco)

[Jose Colaco]

Re: The second comprised of brave Hindus and a large number of Catholic 
freedom fighters who wanted Goa to merge with India. Some of these, who were 
activists, bore torture, etc

COMMENT: 
Good article by Dr. F.C. Colaco and a good comment by Ben Antao.
I believe that it is also important to review the actions of the Segunda 
Corrente. My query: Were these 'brave etc' folks also Arrogant and 
Negligent..or just Naive and Negligent?

What Plan did they have to replace the Exiting administration? Did they believe 
that it was important for Goans to be formally asked what they wanted for their 
future or Did they believe that Goans had NO right to self a determination ?

I agree with Ben Antao that Adv. Bruto da Costa was a proud and fearless Goan 
who fought against the dictatorship of Salazar and that His letter to prime 
minister Nehru in 1962, which I have read, is a reasonable plea for autonomy 
for Goans. 

I believe that this letter, if sent in the mid-1950s (during the economic 
blockade) would have had as much effect on Nehru as it had in 1962..ie. 
NADA, NIL, ZIP.

Neither Nehru nor Indira ( or any politician, Salazar included ) have ever 
displayed the inclination to listen to the voices of reason, IF it does NOT 
suit him/her. 

That, probably is the reason why many common law countries have tried to 
Separate Powers and have provisions for Judicial Review of governmental 
decisions and actions.
jc

Re: [Goanet] UK - Festa Dis - Sunday 24 May 2015 - Margao Union UK

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Melvyn,

Heartwarming to learn about the 'Festacho Dis' u good folks will be
celebrating in the UK.

Wish u every success and excellent weather on that day

jc
On May 12, 2015 1:04 PM, Melvyn Fernandes mel...@orange.net wrote:

  Hi all
 UK - Festa Dis.   On Sunday 24 May 2015, Margao Union UK will celebrate
 the Feast of the Patron of Margao, “ THE HOLY SPIRIT “ at St. John’s Hall,
 Bourne Hill, Palmers Green, N13 4DA - Mass at 12.30pm followed by a
 get-together. Music “NITELIFE”. Price including Snacks and Buffet £ 10.00.
 For details contact: Camilo- 020 8801 3637, Bella - 020 8372 1253/ 07949
 233307, Rosalind- 020 8767 8652  Xavy – 020 8803 5146/07507 950455.
 Festa Dis is the season with longer daylight hours in Europe where our
 people put on their Glad Rags and have the opportunity to meet and greet in
 the Spirit of Goa encompassing our Heritage and Culture an event  will
 include Holy Mass,a good chance of finding our king dish Sorpotel
 accompanied with music and dance to bring back that Feel Good factor,
 essential to health and well being – contact your organisation today and
 make the best of 2015.

 Melvyn Fernandes
 Thornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom

 12 May 2015

Re: [Goanet] Dear Dr. Jose

[Jose Colaco]

It merits noting here that the Dr. Colaco in this 'contra tu' with Valmiki
Faleiro (VF), is Dr. Francisco Colaco (FC), Goa's leading cardiologist and
not simple me (jc).

Ab inicio, allow me to state that I have nothing but the deepest of regards
and respect for these fine gentlemen.

My personal respect for FC, VF and everyone else on Goanet having been
acknowledged, I have never hesitated to say my piece. It has never been my
technique to sit on any fence. Sometimes I have been right, at other times,
NOT.

If 'we'  remember ..on a number of occasions, I have vehemently
objected to the public disclosure of medical information of others.

One such case was that of a Goan athlete who committed suicide in 2001. I
was shocked that the post-mortem details of this hapless individual were
splashed on Goanet and on Rediff (Sandesh Prabhudesai). I also remember the
defence put up by a number of prominent Goanetters stating the public's
Right to Know.

Nonsense !

And then, I had the good fortune to study for the LLB (Hons) and the LLM
(Medical Law) from the UK.

Now, I understand even more keenly WHY another person's private medical
history is NONE of our business and WHY it is protected even in death (with
some exclusion clauses).

Physicians like FC, me and others are expected to maintain an even higher
level of confidentiality when it comes to patient information than the 'man
on the Clapham omnibus'...or Betul to Margao express

Many countries have very strong Data Protection statutes. The US has a very
stringent HIPAA Act. Physicians and other health professionals are liable
for severe actions for violations, also because their WORDS are believed.

Dr. Francisco Colaco makes a very important point - (and I paraphrase)
 that ALL of us make mistakes and that None of us are perfect:  let him
who has no sin cast the first stone”.

My position is this:  I do not hold myself responsible for the actions etc
of Nehru, Salazar, Sambhaji, Churchill, Tipu, Bandodkar or even my own
forebears or other relatives. They did what they did.and there is
nothing any of us can do about the past except learn from it AND endeavour
tonever repeat the mistakes of others or ours.

jc
ps: I do not mind discussing what I have written above via private email.
BUTI am done with this topic on Goanet.

Re: [Goanet] dear Dr. Jose

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Eugene

Is there a disconnect here between the subject header and content ?

jc
On Apr 27, 2015 8:46 AM, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote:

 The spirti are falling down, so it seems over Valmiki's book,about the
 Margao church. Reading Dr. Colaco, it seems the book has raised the dead
 spirits of the area. If a book reflects so much bitterness as Dr. Colaco
 has written, it's time to really valuate by someone who is independent.

 I haven't read VM's piece saying that is the best historical book. One
 other young writer/columnist also said that Selma's book, Diaspora
 Wilderness, was the best historical book. How do these guys come to such a
 conclusion? Have they or rather VM read all the history books? If so, can
 one agree with him about Valmiki's book, which I haven't got yet?

 I once pointed out the VM was one of those who seemed to take for granted
 that Nehru said that Goans are ajeeb but, like others, he failed to give
 reference to the quote.

 Going by Dr. Colaco's remark that history books cannot be written in three
 months, one can do believe that it's so. Maybe, the book is oral hisotry
 and perhaps Valmiki will be on safe ground if he says so.

 The church obviously holds lot of history. Fr. Nascimento has proved his
 merit has someone who can go deep into digging history. Maybe, he could do
 the right thing in bringing out the church's history, if Valmiki's book is
 found wanting in this respect.

 It think Dr. Colaco's desire to end the debate and the controversy is good.
 Now comes real assessment of the book. Hope someone does the job well.

 Eugene

Re: [Goanet] The Case of Colaco v Faleiro aka Sore about Soaring Spirits

[Jose Colaco]

Excellent my dear Bernado

You could hope to SOLVE what was a MYSTERY to you

ANIMOSITIES are normally RESOLVED

Now...before other netters wonder WHAT is wrong with these Colacos

I declare you the winnerand conclude my responses to you on this topic.

The Conjured up (by Bernado Colaco) Bandodkar canard remains on the table
until Bernado corrects it on all the sites he posted it.

best

jc


On 26 April 2015 at 04:02, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi Jose,
It was a mystery to me as to how these two good men from Margao got into
animosity, therefore I used solve instead of resolve. One solves a mystery.
I am not to sure if there is any thing to resolve.



Earlier Bernado Colaco had written:

Hey Jose,

It seems that you are still reeling from the Bandodcar episode. All I asked
from the two good guys from Margao was to write something different to
solve their animosity.



 jc proffered the following Clarification:

 1: by the 'Bandodkar episode'

 BC means the CONJURED UP by BERNADO episode.

 2: wrt 'The Two guys from Margao Solving their Animosity'

 BC means Resolving their Animosity



 jc

Re: [Goanet] The Case of Colaco v Faleiro aka Sore about Soaring Spirits

[Jose Colaco]

On 25 April 2015 at 10:17, Bernado Colaco ole_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hey Jose,

It seems that you are still reeling from the Bandodcar episode. All I asked
from the two good guys from Margao was to write something different to
solve their animosity.


Clarification:

1: by the 'Bandodkar episode'

BC means the CONJURED UP by BERNADO episode.

2: wrt 'The Two guys from Margao Solving their Animosity'

BC means Resolving their Animosity

jc

[Goanet] The Case of Colaço v Faleiro aka Sore about Soaring Spirits

[Jose Colaco]

The Case of Colaço v Faleiro aka Sore about Soaring Spirits
The Court of First Instance, Pretend-Juiz Zuzebab presiding
April 23, 2015

Undisputed Facts of the case:
Both Dr. Francisco Colaço and Valmiki Faleiro are honourable gentlemen.
Mr. Faleiro has penned a book; Dr. Francisco has taken umbrage with some of
the contents in the book.

In particular, Dr. Colaço alleges that 'private and intimate details' of
ancestral people have been revealed. He also alleges that rhe Margao
Faleiros have a grudge against the Margao Colaços

Mr. Faleiro contests this. He contends that Dr. Colaço has not provided a
single instance to illustrate or support this allegations.

Dr. Francisco Colaço de novo alleges that Mr. Faleiro's father was a was a
manic-schizophrenic


Prelimainary RULING:

The Court of First Instance 'orders' clarifications from Dr. Colaço wrt to
the following points raised:

1: Which page(s) of the Faleiro book reveal which 'private and intimate
details' of which ancestral people of Dr. Colaço?

2: Assuming that there is a diagnosis known as 'manic-schizophrenia' and
assuming that it is accurate, does a patient not have a right to
confidentiality wrt his medical diagnosis?

3: Is a medical, and especially a psychiatric diagnosis, NOT specially
protected under Data Protection statues and by Ethical Codes? IF it is, Dr.
Colaço please advise Why you should not be held to have breached the
Ethical principle of Confidentiality of patient diagnosis?

PN: This Court, by virtue of the above questions, does not Rule that there
is or isn't a diagnosis known as 'manic-schizophrenia'  or that any named
or unnamed individual (alive or not) did or did not exhibit symptoms
consistent with the 'diagnosis'.

Court Adjourned until Faleam.


(transcribed by jc)

Re: [Goanet] A RIVER, Turned Gutter

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Isidore

The following is a 2002 article (from a website otherwise would merit from
updating)

http://www.colaco.net/1/rivers.htm
The Tale of Two Rivers
josé colaço

PLEASE vide the second half of the article commencing with
All this brings us to the TWO RIVERS
**



*jc*


On 4 March 2015 at 07:39, Isidore Mendis i_domn...@yahoo.co.in wrote:


 A river turned into a gutter
 TNN | Mar 4, 2015, 02.00 AM ISTIsidore Domnick Mendes

 The village of Seraulim in Salcete taluka has seen generations of its
 inhabitants eat local fish from the River Sal as part of their daily diet.
 Unplanned, haphazard development was brought to the village in the recent
 past which has now left the river in a polluted mess, even as the fish in
 the river, have decreased drastically.

 Seraulim, with a population of 5,000 residents, is surrounded by Goa's
 commercial capital, Margao, and the villages of Betalbatim, Colva, Nuvem,
 and Benaulim. It comprises 12 vaddos including Acsona, Botlem, Bolcho,
 Compsaltor, Tonten-Dimund, Dulcolim A, Dulcolim B, Dulcolim C, Dulcolim D,
 Socobhat, Dongrim and Mugdi.

 This pristine village has agricultural fields and three 'tollem' (lakes)
 which are visited by migratory birds around the year. Seraulim shares its
 eastern boundary with the River Sal, which was once famed for its catch of
 local fish, such as Horcheo, Pintoll, Valloi, Chingull, Kannare, Thellea,
 Dhadio, and Ainsodam.

 The villagers are unhappy as local fish hardly makes an appearance in
 their daily meals due to the drastic depletion of the catch caused by the
 discharge of sludge, effluent, and waste from the Margao wholesale fish
 market operated by the South Goa planning and development authority (SGPDA).

 Villagers also complain about clandestine operations in which hospital and
 nursing homes have been dumping medical waste by the riverside which has
 further hurt the river ecologically. The SGPDA wholesale fish market was
 built in 2003 and is the most important hub for South Goa residents to buy
 their seafood in bulk. The fish market does not have an effluent treatment
 plant as well as parking area.

 Due to the release of sewage by the wholesale fish market, River Sal at
 Seraulim has been almost turned into a gutter. It is a criminality that
 nothing is being done to prevent further damage caused by the ejection of
 waste from one of the biggest fish markets in Goa, which, till date does
 not have a facility to treat its waste. The traditional fish available in
 River Sal are dying because the water does not flow and has become
 stagnant, says Kevin D'Souza, an activist, who hails from Dulcolim A and
 is also a member of the United Sports Club of Seraulim and the Fabrica.

 Concurs Ruben da Costa, a resident of Acsona vaddo, The wholesale fish
 market in Margao is more of a bane than a boon to us Seraulimkars. The
 entire waste from this fish market is being dumped into the River Sal and
 this has led to the complete dwindling of local fish. We, villagers, every
 morning, face taxing traffic snarls as private and commercial vehicles park
 and occupy almost the entire stretch of the two-lane road opposite the fish
 market.

 The villagers say that the drastic depletion of traditional fish in River
 Sal has been the worst misery brought by the SGPDA wholesale fish market
 upon the village of Seraulim.

 The still water caused by dumping and discharge of waste and effluents
 into River Sal has killed almost all the traditional varieties of fish
 which was delectable in taste. Till a decade-and-half ago, households in
 Seraulim relished mouthwatering cuisines such as Ambott-Tik, Jirem Mirem,
 Para (dry fish pickle) etc. Now, the fish available in the river is hardly
 consumed because it stinks and also has an insipid and bland taste, states
 Angelica da Costa, 86, widow of freedom fighter, late Fabio da Costa.

 The panchayat is optimistic that efforts undertaken by local MLA Caetano
 'Caitu' Silva and fisheries minister Avertano Furtado will lead to a
 lasting solution for the cleaning of River Sal. The panchayat has taken up
 with authorities concerned, this issue of the Sal river getting polluted
 and destroyed by the SGPDA wholesale fish market. The gram sabha has also
 discussed the issue at length. The local body is confident that efforts of
 the MLA, Silva, and fisheries minister Avertano Furtado will yield fruit,
 states sarpanch Leslie Dourado.

 The local MLA Silva says he is aware of the task assigned to him by his
 Seraulim constituents. Desilting as well as removal of waste from the Sal
 river hold the key to solving this problem. The river water has also got
 blocked at Nuvem and an all out effort has to be made to tackle this
 menace. Apart from SGPDA's waste being dumped into the river, the mangroves
 are also playing a role in making the river water stagnant. With the active
 support from all government departments, including Captain of Ports,
 fisheries, forest and water resources department, I 

Re: [Goanet] Demiss Roussous Nana Mouskouri

[Jose Colaco]

Dear FN,

A very nicely written piece.brought back a flood of musical memories

A few points to add ...

1: Lunch time was when one was able to hear Western music on AIR Goa.The
Gujarati chaps who shared the accommodation (at Viegas House) with us often
berated me for listening to 'bad influence' music. They must be in charge
of music-morals these days.

2: This is not to state that I did not enjoy Hindi music. I actually did
and still do even though I prefer the less jump-up Bollywood music of the
late 60s and early70s.

3: BTW: I had the good fortune of having been invited to host 4 music
half-hours (I believe it was on Thursday evenings when popular English
music was played). It was in my final year of the MBBS...so regrettably
(for me) I could not do it for more than those 4 times.

4: ThereafterEnglish music appeared to have become 'persona non grata'
at AIR Goa. Your perception that it was 'politically incorrect' to play
English music mirrors mine. We were in Nachinola on one afternoon in
mid-Jan 1980 when, to our general surprise, Western music preceded the News
and followed it.

5: Sri Lanka underwent a similar cultural revolution from the time of
Solomon Dias Bandaranaike (I almost typed Bandodkar). The music which
suffered was the Baila music. Ironic that the very individual who try to
Buddhistify and Sinhalize Ceylon, was himself assassinated by a Sinhala
Buddhist monk.

6: Back to Baila: While Vernon Correa helped the propagation of Baila over
the airwaves, it was Wally Bastiansz who is credited for keeping it alive.
His Irene Josephine is iconic and (from what I hear) is very popular in
Sri Lanka today. (I realise that a Baila group had performed in Goa a
couple of years ago, but it is worth listening to it on youtube...and find
tiny shades of commonality with our own Konkani music.) Here is Desmond de
Silva who was instrumental in making made the financial success it now
is.and (as expected) with financial success, what was 'politically
incorrect' became .Amchencch murre !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEHbfelsEFk

7: The story of 1970s Western music (esp on LPs) available to us in Goa -
would be part told if mention was not made of the Colombo Jetliners and
Mignonne Fernando. Vernon Corea and Tony Fernando (Mignone's husband) were
responsible for Western music to spread from Ceylon to Goa and other parts
of India and East Africa.until it became inconvenient.

8: Here is a short snippet of the 2013 Farewell performance by Jetliners
and Mignonne Fernando. I recollect the songs from 1:30 to 4:52. Hope you do
too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wazx3WgrF8A

jc


On 8 February 2015 at 15:51, Frederick FN Noronha wrote:

Am referring to radio, the prime means of communication and music promotion of
those times.

While AIR (All India Radio) at Altinho had its daily afternoon fix of Western
music, often with 'Yours Truly' Imelda behind the phone, if one recalls
right, for maybe an hour

The only other option was Friday night, Your Favourites (where college boys and
other pranksters sent out mischievous 'requests' in their 'friends' names)
from Panjim.

Of course, there were LPs and 45rpms on records, but those were few and far to
come by... besides being costly.

All this, put together, one assumes because I was not around in those times,
was a far cry from the Emissora de Goa Western music output, when Goa was a
popular radio station being heard as far away as in East Africa...Radio
Ceylon

It was therefore my perception that Western music was seen as
'politically incorrect'
in the 1960s and 1970s, at least in the officially-controlled channels
which were dominant then. FN

Re: [Goanet] Zimbabwe By The Sea

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Mervyn

Thank you very much for your delightful email. I have returned back to the
daily grind in a bright, sunny and very comfortable 21C after a stint in
freezing Chilly Philly.

My interest in both the issues mentioned by you is purely academic.  I am
enjoying the input of Marshall Mendonza. Thus far, he appears to be right
on target. Later on tonight, I might prod him a wee bit more. He is in the
field and is able to do the appropriate research. In his most recent email,
he has included a very interesting comment - one which I believe hits the
nail on its head.

I am happy to see our Goanetter friend contest from Panjim. I hope sensible
people work together to collate the anti-corruption votes...whatever the
final result.

I agree with your advice of not purchasing land (home) in a country one
does not live in, esp a Third World country. In Goa, it is particularly
challenging for all sorts of reasons.

best

jc

On 4 February 2015 at 12:16, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:

Doc Colaco,
I am replying from Toronto where the temperature outside is -10 C and there
is 10cms of snow on the ground. I am in Toronto because I have already
lived at sunny, “Zimbabwe by the Sea.” In fact, one of the first
“Zimbabwe’s by the Sea” as one fine morning in the1960’s, I woke up to find
out that the Tanzanian Govt had nationalised our house in Zanzibar. A house
with all the legal documents from the govt and which had been in the family
for 50 years. Ever since, people have fled Zanzibar, Zimbabwe, etc., etc.
to places where there is law and order.

People who make the trek in the opposite direction, taking their assets
from places of law and order and investing in corrupt places, are of little
interest to me. I know what is going to happen next. Given the history of
corrupt practices in the developing world, I find it difficult to
sympathize with them when they return with their laments of
misadventure(s). Such people need to go directly to their govts for help,
and in the case of Britain, I feel that the British Govt is doing an
adequate job representing them.  For example, the Brits have sent a clear
message to the corrupt in Goa that they better think twice before fooling
with British citizens there.

What IS of strong interest to me, however, is how those living in Goa have
to battle corruption. One of our Goanetter’s is currently running for
elections in Panjim. His platform is to clean up govt. I am more interested
in his efforts than the crying of any British citizen.

Lastly, to answer your question, I would advise anyone who asks, not to
invest outside the country where they reside. In fact, don’t even think
about it.

Re: [Goanet] Zimbabwe By The Sea

[Jose Colaco]

Three Questions:

1: Do guidelines (as in the RBI guidelines) constitute the law?

2: What if the property was purchased before the FEMA, 1999.came into
effect?

3: Does Indian law permit the retroactive application of the law?

jc

On 2 February 2015 at 03:16, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com
wrote:

 The RBI guidelines on acquisition of immovable property by NRI's, PIO's and
 Foreign Nationals is very clear. If one has gone through it or studied it,
 there should be no confusion. I am appending below weblink to the
 guidelines and also highlighting critical points which are all
 self-explanatory:

Re: [Goanet] Subject: OVERCHARGING PATIENTS

[Jose Colaco]

On 19 December 2014 at 19:43, Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I believe the many of the doctors in Goa suck, and they suck good at he roth
(I am dodging censors sensors yo) while nailing patients to the rood (the
cross yo).

Dear VJP,

I have not seen enough Goa doctors in action in order to be qualified to
make a sweeping statement about 'doctors in Goa'. However, what I have seen
leads me to believe that you might be right.This is in stark contrast to
the wonderful GMC graduates I have seen and heard of in these parts.

The main hospital facilities in Mapuca  Margao were a disgrace when I last
went to walk around. Of course, by then the Panjim and Ribandar hospitals
had completed their process of disintegration. And yet, ALL four hospitals
were 4 star hotel-like in their cleanliness and the demeanor of the staff
towards the patients. Yes, I did visit all four and work in two of them
within the decade after 1961.

And then Bandodkar, the MG and the clueless (about Goa and Goans)
deputationists took over.

And then there is that thing at Bambolim.

I state all this because it is vitally important for the Public Hospitals
and the Public Health Clinics to be first rate. We too should, inter alia,
 practice healthy lifestyles, try reduce needless stress, try be moderate
in our diet (solid and liquid) and practice road safety.

In most countries, the more experienced staff are available in the public
facilities. And, as the State cannot always remunerate professionals
sufficiently for their expertise,  it allows them limited - after hours -
private practice to supplement their limited State salary.

Will some unscrupulous (say) doctor abuse this privilege? Sure, but in all
the countries I have worked and studied, I have not seen abuse of
privilege. Even in Goa, when I first started my clinical years, there was
this Public+limited Private privileges for senior physicians. I saw no
abuse.

In Goa, as the quality of the hospitals and (I believe) care - as in total
care - deteriorated, private hospitals started to spring up.

I understand the need (for want of a better word) for private hospitals to
exist, but, in general, I do not like them.

Private hospitals are like 5 star restaurants. I would never invest in
either for the purpose of financial return.Both, if run scrupulously, are
loss making ventures...never mind what they appear from the outside.
Certain sections of the hospital eg Imaging, Lab, Pharmacy are like the
Bars in restaurants. They make moneyand in the corporate structure are
separately owned by wheels inside wheels.

Even so I would not be out there jumping up and down about Overcharging
until I know what was needed, what was done and how it was billed. And yes,
like well dressed folks (or Q8kars) get the same 'Sumgtancho Vantto at the
Tinto for Rs 750,  that I in my incognito attire could get for Rs 300, so
also will it occur in healthcare - even in private doctors offices.

I will leave this topic with a short story, a very brief conclusion and a
BTW.

Short story: Some years ago, at 2pm one afternoon, I received a call from
someone in the diplomatic corps of a nation. His two children were
reportedly ill. I advised him that I would be happy to see them in my
office. After making an appointment for 3pm, he called back at 5pm to
apologise and requested if he could reschedule for 7pm. Now, I rarely see
clients that late but I made the exception and said OK. Besides, I had
paperwork to complete. I did that and at 8 pm I went home. No sign of the
kids.

The next call was at 11pm. Could I please see them. They are coughing and
unable to sleep. He was sorry he could not bring the kids earlier, his wife
had to attend a 'ladies evening out' etc.

Well, I could not see him at the office that late - so the only place was
at the ER of a private facility.

By the time I was done with the kids, it was 4am. When he received the
bill, he was shocked! He said: Dr. C, I did not know you were this
expensive' !

I took a look at the bill - just to double check myself and politely said
to him: Mr. X, I have not charged you a cent, nor will I charge you for
today. A significant part of what you see here is the facility fee which
goes up significantly after 10pm. It could have been avoided if only you
had kept your original 3 pm appointment.

Conclusion: Our goal should be to have good quality, clean and well staffed
public hospitals and/or clinics within easy access of the population. Also,
it is best to consult our family physician early at his/her office rather
than delay and have to go to a hospital - unless it is an emergency.

BTW: Would the public health services not have benefited IF, for instance,
well qualified and trained specialists like (say) Dr, Francisco Colaco were
also able to part-time serve the State hospital and do Private Practice
after that?

But...merely talking and writing here will not change anything.

jc

Re: [Goanet] Grants to 500 Goans to attend Sri Lanka canonisation ceremony

[Jose Colaco]

I agree with FN

A secular State should NOT spend public funds for the benefit of a group
wishing to attend a religious event. Those who wish to attend should pay
out of their own pocket or raise funds on their own for the purpose.

There should be total separation between Religion and Civil functions (iow
Church/Temple/Mosque and State)

jc

On 21 December 2014 at 10:30, Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेड्रिक नोरोन्या
*فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 21 December 2014 at 06:37, Robin Viegas robinvie...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  Grants to 500 Goans to attend Sri Lanka canonisation ceremony


 This needs to be questioned! Why should the secular state pay for the
 excise of the religious preferences of a section of the population? I
 suspect it will be used as a precedence to use more from the State
 exchequer for diverse groups, who would not be then questionable as
 it-has-been-done-for-others-too! People have a right to their religious
 (and other) belifes. And they should pay for its themselves. FN
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Re: [Goanet] Subject: OVERCHARGING PATIENTS

[Jose Colaco]

On Dec 19, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Jerry Fernandes jerryn...@gmail.com wrote:

Regarding the subject of overcharging patients, its become a common
norm that doctors charge nothing less than 200 - 300 in Goa with no
receipts. Even the follow up visit is charged, which should be free to
see the progress of the medicines prescribed. But who to complaint
these matters?

I had been in Mumbai for few days and happened to visit three doctors
there, and I was zapped beyond words, when the charges were Rs 50 and
less by all these three doctors. It made me wonder if I was really
with some doctors in Mumbai. This was all at Mira Road in Mumbai.


COMMENT:

1:  Rs. 50 for a Doctor's office visit? ...Excellent!

2: How much for a Bhaji Puri at a half-clean eat house in Mumbai or Goa?

ADDENDUM

Let me accept, ab inicio, that there are rip-off artists in all walks
of life ...Medicine included.

But in general:

3: In some countries,  the local Medical Associations work out Fee
Schedules. The fees charged are based on the complexity of the
presenting problems and the time reasonably required to see the
patient and answer all the queries. The charges are according to CPT
(Procedure) codes. (There are regional variations because of the
relative costs of running practices eg A doctor's office in (say) New
York would be infinitely more expensive to run than one (say) in
Beeville, Texas.

Customarily, a new patient of moderate complexity will be coded and
billed as a 99203 while a review pt as a 99213.  Each of these visits
normally run about 20-30 minutes - so that a proper history and
examination is conducted, treatment written and discussed with the
patient, and any further queries answered.

4: I have NO clue as to what (rent etc) it costs to run a doctor's
office in Mumbai.and How many patients that doctor has to see per
day.just to cover the office expenses; accordingly, how much
quality time a doctor expends per patient.

5: Those who wish to seek 50 Rs consults in 2014 should avail of them.

6: In general, one gets the service one pays for.

PS: One method to avoid paying too many Doctor's bills is to follow
the following regimen:

(a) : Avoid alcohol, cigarettes and 'drugs' (b) Live a simple life ie
Avoid unnecessary stress and zhogdim (c) Avoid shady food stalls and
other eat places - especially roadside ones purporting to sell you
'Chai_neez' food. Cook and eat at home, as much as possible. (c) Avoid
too much meats and other fatty foods.(d) If you must ride a bike, use
a proper helmet.

(e) Insist that the public hospitals provide clean and decent health
care - Instead of wasting time at the political rallies of the
'amdars' while eating the provided biriyani and caju, agitate for
proper hospital care.

(f) Do NOT seek medical assistance for simple matters at Hospitals.
Hospitals esp their emergency rooms are particularly expensive; worse
still if you are seen after 10 pm or on holidays.

(g) Have regular preventive visits with your dentist and your GP and
please be compliant with your medications.

FINALLY: If you believe that you have been unfairly treated or ripped
off, complain to the Medical Council.Name the alleged no-good chaps.
If you do not get reasonable results within a reasonable time (+ a
reminder) Take the Council to court.

Merely venting one's fury in the newspaper will not change a thing.
The 'folks' know that Goans have attention-deficit. After a couple of
days of blowing steam on this matter, Goans will find another matter
to vent about. So, the con-artists will lay low for a few days and
then continue as before.

jc

Re: [Goanet] OVERCHARGING PATIENTS

[Jose Colaco]

On 17 December 2014 at 20:37, Stephen Dias steve.dia...@gmail.com wrote:

OPEN LETTER TO DR. FRANCISCO COLACO
Sub : This has reference to the letter dt. 18th Dec, 2014, by Dr.
Francisco Colaco
in one the section of Press on 'OVERCHARGING PATIENTS



jc's COMMENT:

Dr. Francisco Colaco is a senior specialist physician based in Goa. He took
the trouble to write a letter to the Heraldo about the exorbitant amounts
allegedly charged for patient care by certain hospitals. He also made
reference to a possible attempt to extract funds from a patient for a
procedure the patient allegedly did not need.

Unfortunately, Dr. Francisco Colaco neither named the hospital nor the
doctor who attempted coercion. If he had, patients who do due diligence
would have had the opportunity to review for themselves.

I submit that it is the responsibility of senior physicians to follow such
matters up with the Medical Association and at Conferences. The benefit of
this would also be that the 'accused' hospital would / would not be able to
defend itself by way of CPT (procedural) codes of what needed to be done in
a case of an emergency. These can be reviewed by a select team of impartial
physicians.


As far as Stephen Dias' 'Open Letter to Dr. Francisco Colaco' is concerned,
I will only state the following:

a: What on earth are Crack doctors?

b: Why would any one (Adv. Rui Ferreira included) seek attention at a
hospital for a minor illness?

c: I wonder if Mr. Dias knows the meaning of the term 'Offence'.


In conclusion:

1: Private medical care is expensive
2: Private hospital care is even more expensive
3: It is incumbent upon the patient to check the costs before he/she checks
into a hospital
4: Do NOT use hospitals for minor illnesses - unless you can afford the
costs. Remember, it is NOT the duration of time one spends in the hospital
BUT what has to be done and is done while one is there.
5: Please ask the genius who moved the hospital from Panjim to Bambolim:
HELLO where is the hospital for the capital city?

6: There is NO WAY that the private hospitals would last a week IF the care
in the public hospitals was Competent, Caring and Clean.

jc


http://www.heraldgoa.in/Edit/Letters/Corporate-hospitals-overcharging-patients/82355.html


Corporate hospitals overcharging patients
By Dr. Francisco Colaco, Margao | 18 Dec, 2014, 11:42PM IST

The advent of corporate hospitals in Goa has brought good tidings;
regrettably, however, it has led to rampant commercialization and
overcharging of patients. Recently, a patient of mine from Siridao, who had
a bout of paroxysmal  tachycardia, was admitted to a well known private
hospital in Goa during an emergency. His tachycardia was aborted with
intravenous diltiazem. He stayed just for one day and his total bill was a
whopping Rs 30,000. What is more disturbing is the fact that he was being
further pressed for a coronary angiography which was unnecessary and
unjustified in this patient. Wisely, the patient, sought discharge against
medical advice, despite intense pressure to stay on. It must be said that
on earlier occasions this very patient was tackled for the very same
condition at the GMC and he did not have to spend more than Rs 1000 each
time. Presently, the patient under consideration is leaving for Mumbai for
radiofrequency ablation which is the definitive treatment (not available in
Goa). He is ready to beg and borrow for a new lease of life.

Sometime ago one of our most respected and senior most ENT surgeons from
Goa was admitted for one day at the same hospital
for Vivax Malaria. His bill? A hefty  Rs. 17,000. Despite the fact that the
most ethical and respected doctor, his consultant, forfeited his own
charges! Months ago, a patient with urinary retention was admitted, again
at the same hospital. After catheterization he was discharged after having
had to pay an unbelievable amount of Rs. 20, 000. No surgical procedure was
carried out.

Ever since corporate hospitals have invaded Goa there has been a spurt of
charges that are exorbitant and unacceptable. The whole medical scenario in
Goa is experiencing a dramatic change. It is time the Government steps in
to monitor the fees.

Re: [Goanet] Dr. Wilfred Mesquita's doublespeak

[Jose Colaco]

In response to Edwin/Diana Pinto's post:

1: I know Wilfred Mesquita, personally. He is an extremely nice person, in
person, and one who will do NO personal harm to anotherexcept perhaps
in self defence.

2: He is also a professional. His main profession is 'Politician'.

3: Basically, he is an MG; Never mind the record that he is now a BJP after
he was a Congress after he was an MG etc etc.

4: Look at his political history. He has been a consummate survivor of many
a political upheaval. In short, a Man for Any Season. Is that any different
from any of the others who pulled one coup after another in post-1961 Goa
in order to suit their own political, financial and power interests?

5: To his credit and to the best of my knowledge, Willie is not personally
corrupt. He never was. You agree or not?

6: So, please leave his pronouncements alone. He is hardly speaking for
himself. He is not the owner of HMV, just a convenient patron.

7: Willie was never a great debater or presenter...never. And he will tell
you that. But, like his Pa (Maurelio), he is a shrewd reader of the 'tea
leaves'. He knows that in the field of politics, the electorate is fickle,
very fickle. For, one can do all the good there is to do, there is no such
thing as a discerning and loyal electorate. So, Willie looks after Willie.
I support him for looking after himself.

8: About Dabolim/MOPA et al,  I believe that from his vantage point
residence a near stone's throw from Dabolim Airport, he knows two things:
(a) The Navy ain't giving back Dabolim to Goans; the spoils of war  are
almost never returned. (b) Mopa will happen.:

9: So, being the ultimate pragmatist, Willie has accepted the inevitable as
a 'fait accompli' and is acting accordingly in the interest of Willie.

10: I write this, not because I agree with Willie's politics but because I
agree with his assessment of things present and things in the near future.

jc


On 16 December 2014 at 00:22, Edwin/Diana Pinto eddipi...@gmail.com wrote:

 As the BJP Party spokesperson, it is quite easy to understand Dr. Wilfred
 Mesquita’s convoluted logic in defending the indefensible as far as his
 party government is concerned. Dr. Mesquita should surely appreciate
 however, that the people find it very hard to buy his argument that
 “corruption still persists in the state which is difficult to curtail since
 most Goans refrain from complaining”. After all, the BJP government seems
 to have no problem in bulldozing the second airport project at Mopa,
 despite all the Goans who have not “refrained” from complaining. These
 Goans have asked pertinent, relevant and very troubling questions about the
 viability and the environmental repercussions of this project, which Dr.
 Mesquita’s government has chosen not to answer, exposing clearly just how
 much it cares about Goans who complain or “refrain” from complaining. In
 fact Dr. Mesquita himself was one of the Goans who did not “refrain” from
 complaining about this Mopa airport project some years ago when he stood
 shoulder to shoulder with Churchill Alemao.

 The Goa BJP government’s standards of “good governance” are clearly
 exposed when it admits that for the past two and a half years, it has not
 been able to find a qualified Lokayukta in the whole country. What about
 the Regional Plan, the Mining issue, the totally ineffective Garbage
 Management even after Goan taxpayers have funded MLA’s “garbage study”
 junkets abroad?  Dr. Mesquita’s government cannot even push through the
 promised Special Status for Goa after two and a half years and getting
 their own Party government at the Centre. The excuses for Dr. Mesquita’s
 government’s non performance have now run out.

 The BJP government is sleepwalking through its term, probably because of
 the lack of a robust opposition which has deluded it into thinking that it
 is presiding over a “monopolistic” democracy. Wake up and smell the coffee
 Dr. Mesquita. It’s still a people’s democracy and compelling school kids to
 write eulogies on “good governance” on Christmas day does not mean that it
 really exists here in Goa or in the rest of the country.

Re: [Goanet] Dr. Wilfred Mesquita's doublespeak

[Jose Colaco]

There are many points in Diana's post that I agree with.

To use an analogy: I remind myself never to pay too much attention to the
freshly baked mini-loaves / slices of bread that the waiter brings to a
table at some restaurants. Even if I am 'starvando'.I prefer to wait for
the entree.

In the public arena, my experience is that 'statements' made by
spokespersons are a distraction. All it does is keep well meaning activists
busy.until the next time.

I'd submit that anytime some spokepersonish bread is served, there is an
entree around.

Very soon, all will be forgotten and glorious bhaxans will be made -
telling Goans how fortunate they are...and have been - to just be in these
times. That, and the customary articles in the newspapers and on Goanet.
Please stay tuned.

On a personal note, I would re-read world history before I disregard the
'fait accompli'.

the best to you

jc.



On 16 December 2014 at 09:36, Edwin/Diana Pinto eddipi...@gmail.com wrote:

   I have no doubt that Wilfred Mesquita is an extremely nice person in
 person and one who will do NO personal harm to another (perhaps not even in
 self defence). Hence he has such loyal friends like Jose Colaco.  However,
 I have not addressed him in his personal capacity nor have I insinuated
 that he was personally corrupt.  I have responded to  issues  raised in the
 public domain by Dr. Mesquita himself on behalf of his party and his
 government.  If he and Jose Colaco want me to leave his pronouncements
 alone, then they should not be made in the public domain on issues that are
 of extremely important public relevance.

 I am least interested in Mesquita’s political or personal history, but in
 actions of the government of which he is the spokesperson, that affect us
 as a community in Goa. And I remain hopeful that Jose Colaco will permit me
 my opinion as he has graciously permitted Mesquita his. Unlike Mesquita and
 Jose Colaco, I do not believe in ‘fait accompli’ until it is actually
 accomplished. And despite Jose Colaco’s touching concern, I am sure that
 Dr. Wilfred Mesquita is quite capable of taking the heat - hence he has
 become the spokesperson of HMV.

 Diana



  *From:* Jose Colaco cola...@gmail.com
  *Sent:* Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:41 PM
 *To:* Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org
 *Cc:* Edwin/Diana Pinto eddipi...@gmail.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Goanet] Dr. Wilfred Mesquita's doublespeak

  In response to Edwin/Diana Pinto's post:

 1: I know Wilfred Mesquita, personally. He is an extremely nice person, in
 person, and one who will do NO personal harm to anotherexcept perhaps
 in self defence.

 2: He is also a professional. His main profession is 'Politician'.

 3: Basically, he is an MG; Never mind the record that he is now a BJP
 after he was a Congress after he was an MG etc etc.

 4: Look at his political history. He has been a consummate survivor of
 many a political upheaval. In short, a Man for Any Season. Is that any
 different from any of the others who pulled one coup after another in
 post-1961 Goa in order to suit their own political, financial and power
 interests?

 5: To his credit and to the best of my knowledge, Willie is not personally
 corrupt. He never was. You agree or not?

 6: So, please leave his pronouncements alone. He is hardly speaking for
 himself. He is not the owner of HMV, just a convenient patron.

 7: Willie was never a great debater or presenter...never. And he will tell
 you that. But, like his Pa (Maurelio), he is a shrewd reader of the 'tea
 leaves'. He knows that in the field of politics, the electorate is fickle,
 very fickle. For, one can do all the good there is to do, there is no such
 thing as a discerning and loyal electorate. So, Willie looks after Willie.
 I support him for looking after himself.

 8: About Dabolim/MOPA et al,  I believe that from his vantage point
 residence a near stone's throw from Dabolim Airport, he knows two things:
 (a) The Navy ain't giving back Dabolim to Goans; the spoils of war  are
 almost never returned. (b) Mopa will happen.:

 9: So, being the ultimate pragmatist, Willie has accepted the inevitable
 as a 'fait accompli' and is acting accordingly in the interest of
 Willie.

 10: I write this, not because I agree with Willie's politics but because I
 agree with his assessment of things present and things in the near future.

 jc


 On 16 December 2014 at 00:22, Edwin/Diana Pinto eddipi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 As the BJP Party spokesperson, it is quite easy to understand Dr. Wilfred
 Mesquita’s convoluted logic in defending the indefensible as far as his
 party government is concerned. Dr. Mesquita should surely appreciate
 however, that the people find it very hard to buy his argument that
 “corruption still persists in the state which is difficult to curtail since
 most Goans refrain from complaining”. After all, the BJP government seems
 to have no problem in bulldozing the second airport project at Mopa

[Goanet] Re Eugene Correia's recent column in the OHeraldo

[Jose Colaco]

 Eugene Correia wrote the following:

' The Supreme Court’s verdict that Goa’s take over was annexation as per 
international law. ,'

QUESTIONS: 
a: Was that the verdict?
b: Which international law?

Recommendation: Typos apart, Mr. Correia may wish to check the facts and 
terminology before he rushes to print.

jc

Re: [Goanet] Christmas wish list - HD Photo drone

[Jose Colaco]

1: Jose Colaco wrote thus to Mervyn Lobo:
[A] : If the writer is a partially knowledgeable fictionista-patracar,
award him a book prize.
[B[ : If the writer is a teacher/examiner in law studies, advise him No
trick questions at this level'
[C]: If it is your lawyer who presents this scenario in court, fire him

2: Mervyn Lobo responded thus

Lawyer Colaco,
The 13th floor?  I have yet to see a  building with a 13th floor. In other
words, the case of Ronald Opus is fictional but one that always provides
stimulating conversation when discussed over a beer (or two)

3: Finalmente Response to Mervyn on this topic:

Sure Mogal Mervyn, but here goes.

a: My previous post (quoted supra) stands
b: Except in Tigerbab situations, Those who discuss the topic of Murder or
Attempted Murder without knowing the prerequisites for calling it a
'murder', are best resident with beer.
c: Beer is the best solvent for an Oxymoron. It dissolves the Oxy.
d: I have seen buildings with 13th floor

best

jc

Re: [Goanet] Christmas wish list - HD Photo drone

[Jose Colaco]

[A] On Dec 7, 2014  Jose Colaco wrote:

b: Except in Tigerbab situations, Those who discuss the topic of Murder or
Attempted Murder without knowing the prerequisites for calling it a
'murder', are best resident with beer.
c: Beer is the best solvent for an Oxymoron. It dissolves the Oxy.

[B] On Dec 7, 2014 Mervyn Lobo responded:

(a1) jc, Thankfully, the laws in Ontario are written/polished by law
professors and not Satan's helpers who claim to be lawyers.

(a2) However, the interpretation of the law, even in murder cases, are
often decided by jury's that have less debating abilities than beer
drinking buddies.


FINALMENTE response to Mervyn Lobo on Goanet wrt this thread

MOGAL Mervyn,

1: I believe that each one of us has the right to make a Tigerbab of
ourselves.
2: I have followed my advice to myself that I will NOT debate financial
matters with you, as I do not possess your level of knowledge or expertise
in financial matters
3: You have the right to debate with anybody on any topic - irrespective of
what you may or may not know about the topic.

Even so, dear Sir..I submit the following:

4: Your (above) quoted statement (a2) does not make English sense
5: Contrary to what you have asserted, Even in Ontario, Juries do NOT
interpret the law
6: You continue to MISS the single-most important facet  (Absent in your
story) which would have converted a (say) Manslaughter into
Murder/Attempted Murder (all alleged, of course)

good wishes

jc

Re: [Goanet] Christmas wish list - HD Photo drone

[Jose Colaco]

[A] Dec 10, 2014.. Jose Colaco  wrote:
5: Contrary to what you have asserted, Even in Ontario, Juries do NOT
interpret the law.
6: You continue to MISS the single-most important facet  (Absent in your
story) which would have converted a (say) Manslaughter into
Murder/Attempted Murder (all alleged, of course)

[B] Dec 10, 2014..., Mervyn Lobo responded:
jc, I understand your argument on the higher level in point 5).  In
practice however, a jury in Canada will be fed the law, the jury
instructions and they then have the task of a guilty or not guilty verdict
(depending on how well they understood or interpret the law). The judge
does the sentencing.

RESPONSE:

Dear Mervyn,

For a chap who gave Roland Francis unmitigated hell for his error about
Canadian Tigers, you are talking astonishing and unremitting gibberish
while swinging from one point to another.

Please STOP.

You have already proved that You do not have a clue.

In short REMEMBER this:

a: Murder and attempted Murder require a Mens Rea  - which could NOT have
been present in the example (albeit fictitious) you provided.

b: In (common law) Canada (as in Ontario)Juries are NOT interpreters of
Law. They are mere 'Finders of Fact'. The term 'Interpretation of Law' is
very specific and not subject to imaginative Tigerbabian hyperelucidation.

I am done with Porcaria.

You may, however, carry on discussing with yourself !

jc

Re: [Goanet] Christmas wish list - HD Photo drone

[Jose Colaco]

Towards the end of the scenario that Mervyn Lobo posted (vide infra),
was the following:

The QUESTION to be resolved: was the man guilty of murder, attempted
murder, both?

---RESPONSE---

My dear Mervyn,

(Let us assume that this example in based in Canada or in any other
major 'Common Law country)

[A] : If the writer is a partially knowledgeable fictionista-patracar,
award him a book prize.

[B[ : If the writer is a teacher/examiner in law studies, advise him
'No trick questions at this level'

[C]: If it is your lawyer who presents this scenario in court, fire him

RESOLUTION based on the facts as presented by Mervyn:
The Man could NOT be successfully charged for Murder or even Attempted Murder.
Could be successfully charged with something else, however.

good morning

jc

On Dec 5, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:

Which prompted my friend to ask me if the following was resolved:
A husband and wife were having an argument on the 13th floor of their
condo building. The husband told the wife to shut up else he would
shoot her. The wife kept on yapping so the husband took out his gun
and shot. The bullet missed the wife but went thru the window and
struck a guy who was falling outside. The person falling was the
couples son who had jumped off the roof after warning his parents that
if they did not stop fighting, he would commit suicide. The building
was going thru repairs and had a large net put up to collect falling
debris. The net caught the suicide jumper and prevented his attempt
but he later died in hospital from the bullet wound. The question to
be resolved: was the man guilty of murder, attempted murder, both?

Similarly, the technology the photo drones have, present some
interesting legal challenges as to how and where one can use them. The
commercial drones available today can carry much more than a
conventional camera.  I have the same item on my Santa wish list as
you do but I am going to wait for others to sort out the laws before I
use it on the ground floor of a condo unit.

Mervyn

Re: [Goanet] PANAJI DECAYING DESPITE MANOHAR PARRIKAR BEING MLA FOR TWO DECADES

[Jose Colaco]

On 2 December 2014 at 00:09, Jose Agnelo do Rosario Pinto 
jadorosariopi...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Aires,

1: You stated That Manohar Parrikar has zeroed on his Principal
collection agent
to be his successor in Panaji only exposes the political bankruptcy in the
BJP

2: Are you making baseless allegations as usual; can you provide facts?



RESPONSE:

Dear Jose Agnelo do Rosario Pinto,


a: You are quite right to ask Aires for 'evidence' to support his zeroed
in contention.

In the same spirit

b: Would you please provide 'evidence' of the baseless allegations Aires
has made - As Usual ?

sincerely

jc
One who knows Aires and believes that he is a very smart, determined and
persuasive attorney who would do very well IF he wasted NOT his time with
Politics, Political Aspirations and Politicians.

Re: [Goanet] MANOHAR PARRIKAR NOW SET TO PILE UP A MESS IN DELHI

[Jose Colaco]

On 24 November 2014 at 02:32, Aires Rodrigues airesrodrigu...@gmail.com
wrote:

After having fooled the people of Goa with his much hyped mantra of Zero
tolerance to Corruption, Manohar Parrikar now in his new avatar as Defence
Minister of India has had the audacity of vowing on Zero tolerance to error
in defence.

We now all know that Manohar Parrikar who projects himself as a very pious
and simple soul is infact a very shrewd and smooth manipulator about whose
skills on making U turns less said the better.

COMMENT:

I absolutely and utterly disagree with Aires.

Take a deep breath, Aires.
Have a good look at Manohar Parrikar's extremely sharp gaze.
Does he look like he is a bumbling and incompetent fool?

As Hercule Poirot, the famado Belgian Agatha Christie detective would have
said: Au contraire mon ami !

Take another look at his gaze.
This is an absolutely determined and disciplined individual who is capable
of outwitting any Goan presently residing in Goa.(They are the only ones
who matter at this time)

Now, look at yourself in the mirror and ask:
Mirror Mirro on the wall
Who, over the years, has been made the biggest Moos of them all?
(You may refer back to our 1999 trans-Atlantic tel call)

Review his 'zero' statement again
Ponder upon it carefully
Think of TWO Towns

Here is my prediction:
Dabolim will stay firmly with the Navy
Mopa will happen
Zero will have been accomplished

And there is nothing substantial that you or anybody will be able to do
about that.

[Goanet] Of Hearsay, Rushing to Print in Goan cyberia and ........... Panorama (BBC)

[Jose Colaco]

Dear all,

The following is wrt the BBC Panorama's Fake Sheikh program - as it could
relate to Goan cyberia..

While it is important to blow whistles on the blatant injustices that occur
in our world, it is equally important that 'we' hear ALL sides of the story
before 'we' rush to print one-sided hearsay.

FOR, the damage 'we' might create by our own recklessness - to the families
and lives of others - is incalculable, and often, permanent.

JUST IMAGINE: If a doctor made a diagnosis and prescribed treatment without
conducting a full examination of a patient; if a doctor prescribed the
medication to a (conscious and competent) patient based solely upon the
'history' provided by a third party; if a court issued a judgment based
solely on the case presented by the prosecution/complainant ie without
hearing what the defence had to say esp by way of cross-examination; if we
rushed into judgment in man-woman issues based solely on what HE said or
SHE said - without hearing the other side.

JUST IMAGINE the damage we can do as a result of the unethical and unfair
use of the power of the keyboard.

AND YET, 'we' could be instruments of positive change and not the agents of
character assassination.

IS IT NOT IMPORTANT that 'professionals' verify before they go 'hammer and
tongs' at others?

Blogs (like politician-speak) having been noted and often rightly
disregarded with the proverbial pinch of salt, IT is important, I submit,
that IF a physician writes on a medical matter, he/she should verity before
he posts, the same with Lawyers (in legal matters), Journalists (in news
matters) etc AND, if there is an error - ESP one which affects or could
affect the lives of others - that the error is corrected at the first
available opportunity.

Even before my 'not so temporary' partial sojourn into the legal field, I
was quite concerned about journalism esp. the so-called investigative
journalism.

Personal vendetta and or pruritus apart, the operative questions for
professional and ethical journalists are: (1) Could this story be true? (2)
Have I checked ALL the facets of this story? (3) Would this story do more
good than harm? (4) Is it really important that I publish this? (5) Do I
have clean hands?

ALL those who purport themselves as Investigative Journalists (and other
professionals) might find the following educational:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iK7IPY64_I

2015 is around the corner. Time for a little sprucing up and for a lot of
change.

jc

Re: [Goanet] Cell phones and brain tumours

[Jose Colaco]

Dear Marshall,

I am not very sure why you wrote what you wrote. As it stands, I doubt any
physician or reasonably well read individual is in denial about the
Thalidomide tragedy.

The points, we may all wish to note carefully - are as follows:

1: Thalidomide is a very useful drug - which is now being used in the
management of selective conditions.

2: The Thalidomide tragedy was caused NOT because of the scientists, but
because of its 'off-label' use a by few hyper-confident clinicians.

A similar story exists with the antibiotic Chloramphenicol (Chloromycetin)
. For some time, it too fell out of favour until scientists worked out the
reason why the fatal Gray Baby Syndrome occurred. Chloramphenicol remains
an useful antibiotic esp in developing countries.

good wishes

jc



On 20 November 2014 00:28, Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com wrote

I am surprised that a person who swears by science is in total denial of
the havoc created by the wonder drug Thalidomide.

I am however,not surprised, when such scientists assume/ presume and draw
conclusions:

1. That the persons who contacted cancer were smokers.
2. that the patients/ victims were in the age group of above 70 years.
3. that they are the sole possessors of knowledge and reasoning.

They only reinforce in us the old adage:“Never argue with an idiot. They
will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

===

From Santosh Helekar

One of the biggest problems we face in the world today is that even educated
people are scientifically illiterate, and believe in all kinds of crackpot
conspiracy theories.

Re: [Goanet] KONKANI WORD FOR 'DICTIONARY

[Jose Colaco]

On 20 November 2014 21:57, Joel DS joe...@gmail.com wrote:
'They call a dictionary SOBDKOX. I would prefer to call it DISIONAR, and
you...?'

Dear Joel,

I agree with your preference.

I further add that IF 'we' really wish the next generation of Goans to
communicate in Konkani, we will have to find a method other than one
which requires a Dictionary to determine the Konkani word for (say)
dictionary.and some Crocin (Panadol).

There are some Konkaniwadis who wonder why our young Goans communicate in
English (instead of Konkani) at many functions. I'd like to help them visit
Ostrich farms ...or even watch some recent Bollywood movies

jc

Re: [Goanet] Do stone lions that adorn some Goan house compound gateways signify an Africander residence?

[Jose Colaco]

On 6 November 2014 02:11, augusto pinto pinto...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,
There are stone lions on the gates of some Goan houses. In Moira I know of at
least 5 such houses. I think this motif signifies that it was built by an
Africander. I know for sure at least 2 of the Moira ones were. I've seen the
lions in other villages too.Could anyone say whether I'm right or wrong?


RESPONSE: You are wrong.

jc

Re: [Goanet] Complaint to Goa Union of Journalists over denial of maternity leave to a young woman employee in her last stage of pregnancy

[Jose Colaco]

Perhaps, ducking the other relevant points on this matter, Mervyn Lobo
quoted the following from me to him:
6: Would you NOT like to base your judgement on ALL the facts of the case?

 Mervyn Lobo then responded thus:
Doc,Not one, but two of my favourite journalist in Goa have pass their
judgment on this case. Now they are doing what they do best i.e. reporting
it. My job (and yours?) is to give them moral support. Without that,
exploiters will carry on disregarding the law(s).


RESPONSE:

Mogal Mervyn,

Some years ago, based solely on newspaper reports, I joined many others and
rushed to judge the Goa College of Architecture chaps who were accused of
rape.

I was wrong and use this opportunity to, once again, remind myself that I
was wrong.and never to do it again.

Since then, I absolutely refuse to carte blanche accept the words of
journos or anybody else without placing it through a sieve.

As far as I am concerned, I have NOT seen ALL the facts of this case. Until
I see them, IF I give any support to ANY side, it will hardly be
classifiable as MORAL.

You, Mayabhushan, Devika Sequeira, the  employee and the Herald are
welcome to enlighten us with the facts of this case:

1: What is the exact meaning of the term the last stage of pregnancy?

2: Was the Maternal Benefits Act (1961) violated?

3: Was legal opinion sought? Was the Herald taken to court for violation of
any statute?

4: If the DENIAL is not within 6 weeks of EDD (expected date of delivery),
was there a note from the young lady's obstetrician?

REPEAT: IF the young lady was legally eligible for maternity leave and was
denied that leave, The Herald better find a good lawyer and keep some funds
in escrow. The ones who made the decision also better look for another job
(if somebody will hire them)

The question of import is:  The expected date of delivery

PN: I am going to ignore the Gender (Gendre) Bias bit until you explain
to me if it is applicable in this case and why. Until that occurs, I will
consider it emotional exuberance.

jc

Re: [Goanet] Complaint to Goa Union of Journalists over denial of maternity leave to a young woman employee in her last stage of pregnancy

[Jose Colaco]

On 2 November 2014 08:52, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote:

1: Doc,First of all, Canada has done away with cents. We do not produce nor
use pennies any more. At the stores, they add up your bill and then round
it off to the nearest number divisible by 5 cents. As such, you need to
claim your next opinion is worth 3 cents or more, else it remains worthless
;-)

2: What is worthy about the Herald case is that their policies so incensed
an editor that she decided to resign.

3: I have seen many a manager examine an unfair situation effecting junior
staff and get repulsed. The managers then think of their mortgage, the
people they have to feed at home, etc etc and decide to use blinders.

4: It is the exceptional person that decides to take a stand. To make a
change for herself and her children - else all other women who follow her
will get the exact same treatment that the Herald is dishing out today.

5: I am curious to find out if the Herald has only male subscribers. On the
other hand, perhaps the Herald will soon find out for themselves i.e. when
women start cancelling their subscriptions

RESPONSE

Mogal Mervyn,

Notwithstanding the fact that Canada no longer uses cents or that the
English language was not developed in Ottawa, You make some worthy points.

Accepting that you (and others) believe in the Rule of Law, I will
try-concentrate your attention on to the following:

1: There is a 1961 statute (effective in Goa since 1963) which protects the
rights of pregnant women.
2: Would you know IF any part of that statute was violated?
3: If it was (or perceived to have been violated), was legal advice sought
and were the courts approached?


4: At this moment, solely based on the information thus far made available, I
believe that (legally) it is a 50-50 situation. The Herald may be in the
right or it may be in the wrong.

5: I do not know IF there are any other facts in this case. Do you?

6: Would you NOT like to base your judgement on ALL the facts of the case?


jc

Re: [Goanet] COURT DIRECTS FORMER DoP SHOBHA DHUMASKAR TO BE IN COURT ON NOV 7TH IN CORRUPTION CASE

[Jose Colaco]

On 1 November 2014 04:58, Aires Rodrigues airesrodrigu...@gmail.com wrote:
'Today her lawyer submitted a medical certificate issued by Mapusa
based orthopedic
surgeon Dr Harish Tople that Shobha Dhumaskar has been advised three weeks
complete bed rest but when Judge Deshpande stated that the
doctor would be summoned to ascertain the veracity of the medical certificate
the lawyer for Shobha Dhumaskar quickly agreed to keep her present in Court
on November 7th'


COMMENT:

What IF

1: the medical certificate was INDEED issued by the said doctor for (a)
justifiable (b) non-justifiable reasons?

2: the medical certificate was NOT issued by the said doctor?

Could there also be an issue of fraud involving or not involving the said
doctor?

jc

Re: [Goanet] Goans of Distinction

[Jose Colaco]

(1) In response to this from me to Mervyn:

...please direct me to the URL/post where in .. Leo Rebello claimed:
1: to be on the SHORT LIST for the next President of India
2: JUST ABOUT TO BE awarded the Nobel prize. 

(2) Mervyn Lobo wrote:

Since I sense that the above is important to you, I will attempt to find the 
info you require...

RESPONSE--

Thank You, Mervyn. I shall wait very patiently for that. 

Please Note: I am very very familiar with Mr. Rebello's pronouncements. In 
fact, I believe that I am one of two active Goanetters for whom he has 'special 
regard'.

The above notwithstanding, I am not sure WHY he is being discussed on Goanet 
within a topic relating to Canadian Goans of distinction. 

HOWEVER, now that he is being discussed, I am attempting to verify the accuracy 
of any statements attributed to him.

jc