RE: [h-cost] clothing for the reluctant husband
In every man there is a peacock waiting to be coaxed out with the right ensemble A quote I had heard once. De -Original Message- I remember the first time I put my very reluctant usually 12th-century-tunic-wearing husband into full Cavalier. Full pleated knee britches, high waisted doublet, lace collar and cuff and tights. He did it because he loves me and that way he and I would match, but I could tell he was a bit apprehensive. Then, we went to the event and did he ever get compliments from the ladies. Women who had never given him a second glance were practically fighting to be the one to tell him how good he looked. He's now on his third suit and is constantly looking for lace and trims to be used on his costumes. Melusine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] clothing for the reluctant husband
In a message dated 2/24/2006 4:12:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In every man there is a peacock waiting to be coaxed out with the right ensemble While it makes me cringe, my husband says that he is my Ken doll. I never had one growing up, but I never wanted one, either. I thought men's clothes were BORING. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pictures of my husbands 19th century costume
Unfortionally original hats are much cheaper than new hats. If we want a new hat it will kost us at least tree times as much and we can't afford that. They only cheaper hats I could find were felt one size fits none hats. He wil wear it probably once a year. And I think more people can endjoy the hat while he is wearing it with his costume than when we have it at home in a box. Greetings, Deredere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/23/2006 10:39:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19man/Men19th/Men19th.html It looks very good. The hat is yours, so he can wear it if he wants to, but I would discourage wearing a real artifact. You can find very good reproductions of that style of hat and they aren't too expensive. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Martha to Mia - I needed that!
- Original Message - From: michaela [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Martha to Mia - I needed that! I'm a size 14 in commercial patterns, my main measurements are pretty close (hips waist, bust) but most of my bust measurement is from my ribcage. It makes for a very tricky fit even for professional seamstresses. Been there, realised I know my own body best had a very steep learning curve in pattern drafting;) It IS a PITA, isn't it? I'm glad to hear of someone else with the same issues. I have a big ribcage, broad shoulders, chunky arms, short legs, and a flat butt. Getting things to fit is a nightmare! Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!!
I have just received the most wonderful book from Amazon. 18th Century Embroidery Techniques by Gail Marsh, (ISBN 1 86108 476 5) and am drooling as I type. The pictures are clear, and there are diagrams. It includes silk embroidery, metal thread and spangles, whitework, quilting, tambour and chain, crewel and novelty threads,Hollie Point and knotting!! I know there will be other list members interested. I'm back to my cup of tea and the book. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Babylon 5
I got to see one of the G'Kar costumes at the Seattle Science Fiction Museum last weekend. The costume is almost all created out of hot glue and bits and pieces. I was so bummed to hear that Andreas Katsulas passed away from inoperable lung cancer on 13 February. loved smoking with a passion that cannot be described, was diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer; he passed away a year later, in Los Angeles, California. He was 59. He is survived by his wife and two children. The day after his death, his Babylon 5 co-star Jerry Doyle devoted much of his daily radio talk show to Katsulas, sharing stories of their days working together on Babylon 5. Regina === Reminds me of when a friend got an upclose look at some of the BBC costumes and props for either Six Wives or Elizabeth R. She said there was a lot of gold painted hot glue! I guess the 10-foot rule applys to tv cameras as well as the stage :). Can't push the envelope quite that far at faire darn it. The Narn costumes were an amazing blend of fabrics, loved the Minbari robes too. I saw that we had lost Andreas last week, hits home right now as my father just had surgery for lung cancer (caught unbelievable early, excellent prognosis). There will never be another G'Kar. Catherine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!!
Oh! I can't wait to see it:) Anne P.S. I do have both of Jean's lady's books:) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.0.0/268 - Release Date: 2/23/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!!
Suzi Clarke wrote: I have just received the most wonderful book from Amazon. 18th Century Embroidery Techniques by Gail Marsh, (ISBN 1 86108 476 5) and am drooling as I type. Suzi, after you've had a look at it, could you tell us how much of the book is devoted to early 18th century work, or if it is all examples from the latter half of the century? Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re:patterns
actually, Simplicity may be really gald they have you, Martha. Read that SHOULD BE GLAD. Down here in North Carolina it seems to be the home sewing market is really dried up in the past 10 or so years. Nobody is sewing for children, Nobody is really doing sewing for themselves, There are really no fabric stores in a 100 mile radius of Charlotte beyond, Mary Jos and Hancock's, and mostly they have home deck and quilting fabric, not much in the way of people type fabric. The nearest JoAnns in 90+ miles away. There are several stores at cater to the quilting segment, and one small one that sell Upmarket/Highend fabrics. A this is an introduction to Major Patter Companies can't be selling a huge amount of home sewing patterns. Right now, all I can think of who are doing sewing are the reenactment/costume folks like us. And these are people who will go ANYWHERE, Look at everything, Buy patterns that they don't really need but collect anyway, Have projects in the planning stage for a long time. It would be interesting to know how well the patterns do in comparison to other costume patterns and general run of the mill patterns vs. home dec stuff. 18c Mia in Charlotte NC, remembering the glory days of being near Baltimore MD and Washington DC. Remembering G Street Fabrics when it actually was on G Street DC - What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Tambour hook/ was A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!!
Now I have had time to look at this beautiful book, I want to try tambour embroidery. (Not beading.) Does anyone have a source for the hooks? I have the handle part somewhere, but a source for that would probably be good too. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!!
I, too, could not find it at Amazon.com (the USA site), but I did a web search and found it at two UK bookshops. Here's one of them: http://www.countrybookshop.co.uk/books/index.phtml?whatfor=1861084765 Looks like it is not officially published until Monday, Feb. 27, so that may be why it's not listed in the USA Amazon site. Joan At 09:04 AM 2/24/2006, you wrote: After reading your post I went to Amazon and typed in the title. I got a bunch of stuff but nothing on embroidery. Then I tried Gail Marsh and got more stuff but nothing on embroidery. How did you find the book? It sounds wonderful. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:48:53 + Subject: [h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!! I have just received the most wonderful book from Amazon. 18th Century Embroidery Techniques by Gail Marsh, (ISBN 1 86108 476 5) and am drooling as I type. The pictures are clear, and there are diagrams. It includes silk embroidery, metal thread and spangles, whitework, quilting, tambour and chain, crewel and novelty threads,Hollie Point and knotting!! I know there will be other list members interested. I'm back to my cup of tea and the book. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] clothing for the reluctant husband
In a message dated 2/24/2006 4:12:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In every man there is a peacock waiting to be coaxed out with the right ensemble Following a lengthy discussion of what a woman will be able to get her husband to wear for SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Redwork Question
Thanks, Kimiko! I rarely post to this list with a question, but this really did interest me. The redwork does look like the same patterns as blackwork and I am with you, I gotta make those sleeves! Carletta ** I am no expert on this field, but my understanding is that this is an example of Blackwork style of embroidery, only done in a monochrome red thread instead of black. And I intend on making those sleeves, and maybe the matching partlet as well. I just have other projects to do first, so those are in my someday box. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns ramblings
Susan Data-Samtak wrote: I joined a Victorian Group that sews and dresses up historic sites and events by their presence. We sewed early 1900s style outfits for the 100 Years of Golf in Morris County exhibit. In period attire, we visited the 5 County Golf Courses last summer, to advertise the Historical Society's exhibit. Is there an exhibit catalog for that? I might buy one for my mother-in-law. She lives for golf. I also ride sidesaddle, so I must sew my historically-inspired pieces. Along the lines of the Golf Outfits: Some of the other Ladies in my group saw how elegant the Sidesaddle Riding Habits were and said I want to make a Riding Habit. I don't want to ride a horse, you understand. I just LOVE the habits! Our books _The Voice of Fashion: 79 Turn-of-the-Century Patterns with Instructions and Fashion Plates_ and _The Edwardian Modiste: 85 Authentic Patterns with Instructions, Fashion Plates, and Period Sewing Techniques_ include a great many patterns for 1900-1906 and 1905-1909, respectively, including patterns for golf and riding habits. Fran Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] clothing for the reluctant husband
*Laugh* that is too true. Until we joined the SCA, my husand didn't really wear anything other than plain black jeans and tshirts, black, grey and dark green sweaters, and occasionally BDUs of various colors (mostly black, olive and olive camo). I asked him where/when he wanted his persona, and he said he didn't really care, he was in it for the fencing and the friends. I did research, decided on 1530's Landsknecht, and showed him what I wanted him to wear. Uh-uh. No way was he going to wear all that color, and poofyness. And a codpiece?!?!?! That was three years ago. His wardrobe currently contains: yellow wool slashed hosen with black puffs, red linen pants slashed to yellow, a blue linen wams slashed to chocolate brown, a bright blue wool waffenrock with red trim, a black hat with red ostrich feathers, a school bus yellow hat with black rooster feathers, and I'm going to be making a new fencing wams of weld yellow and cochineal pink. He now wants to make peoples eyes bleed. Of course, that's not really the same as being a peacock, but it's interesting. :) -Irmgart On 2/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/24/2006 4:12:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In every man there is a peacock waiting to be coaxed out with the right ensemble Following a lengthy discussion of what a woman will be able to get her husband to wear for SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Standardization of Men Women's Clothing
Our latest additions to our Library are data charts and graphs of the comparisons of the U.S. womenswear and menswear fashion industries from 1849-1925, http://www.costumegallery.com/1928/Economics/charts/menwomencomp.htm The first chart is the amount of menwear and womenswear clothing establishments that existed during the given times. The second chart shows many people were employed in the men and women's industries. Please don't confuse this with how many men or women that were working in the entire industries. The accounting was recorded by how many people worked in the menswear industry, AND how many worked in the womenwear industry. I will be adding several of these graphs and charts to add to our Library. I have temporarily placed this webpage in the free access area. Next Friday, it will be moved to the subscription only area of the Library. The graphs are large, so you might need to scroll sideways to view its entirety. I am sorry for the size being so large, but it was needed to include the data charts. If you print this webpage, I suggest that you print in landscape setting and do a print preview first. My source for this information is the book, Economics of Fashion. The book is well written and thoroughly researched. This book is the first one I have seen goes into so much details about the business history of the industry. In my daily Library newsletter, I am sending our subcribers excerpts of the chapter about the standardization of the fashion industry. Penny E. Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery, www.costumegallery.com Costume Classroom, www.costumeclassroom.com Costume Research Library, www.costumelibrary.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: clothing for the reluctant husband
He now wants to make peoples eyes bleed. Of course, that's not really the same as being a peacock, but it's interesting. :) -Irmgart = The line we use around here for our local how-brightly/garish-can-I-dress Landsknecht/Byzantine is: Oh my god, he blinded my best horse! Catherine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!!
At 17:27 24/02/2006, you wrote: I, too, could not find it at Amazon.com (the USA site), but I did a web search and found it at two UK bookshops. Here's one of them: http://www.countrybookshop.co.uk/books/index.phtml?whatfor=1861084765 Looks like it is not officially published until Monday, Feb. 27, so that may be why it's not listed in the USA Amazon site. That's the book. I was browsing sewing related book on Amazon and it popped up, so I pre-ordered, and it turned up in the post this morning. I have only taught a corset class today - the rest of the time has been spent studying the book - well that's work ain't it? After reading your post I went to Amazon and typed in the title. I got a bunch of stuff but nothing on embroidery. Then I tried Gail Marsh and got more stuff but nothing on embroidery. How did you find the book? It sounds wonderful. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender I have just received the most wonderful book from Amazon. 18th Century Embroidery Techniques by Gail Marsh, (ISBN 1 86108 476 5) and am drooling as I type. The pictures are clear, and there are diagrams. It includes silk embroidery, metal thread and spangles, whitework, quilting, tambour and chain, crewel and novelty threads,Hollie Point and knotting!! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Babylon 5
Thank you for the quote resource Susan. I need to work on my tailoring skills to do the Ivonava costume. A Centauri or Narn costume would be fun also, but I enjoy her attitude. (BOOM!) Angharad No boom? No boom. No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What? Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here. Boom, sooner or later. BOOM! -- Garibaldi, Sinclair, and Ivanova in Babylon 5:Grail ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tambour hook/ was A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!!
Try Lacis: http://www.lacis.com/catalog/search.php. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 24, 2006 11:32 AM To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Tambour hook/ was A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!! Now I have had time to look at this beautiful book, I want to try tambour embroidery. (Not beading.) Does anyone have a source for the hooks? I have the handle part somewhere, but a source for that would probably be good too. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
Just to add to your observations. It is cheaper to buy clothing at WalMart than it is to make it yourself. When you have to pay ten bucks for a pattern and you can buy a blouse for eight dollars guess which most people will do. At a place in time when so many people are so busy and multi tasking is the norm, too many people don't have the time (nor sadly, the ability) to sew. People new to SCA or Ren Faires or re-enacting are the exception. They are not going to get their garb off the rack in a discount store and most of them are not accomplished at making up their own patterns. People like Martha are a godsend to them because they can purchase a pattern that will pass inspection (to all but the really critical) and that they can understand. It takes a bit of experience to deal with some of the period patterns or to work from a charted pattern on a book page. To cut this rambling short, I just want to add my Bravo Martha and hope that Simplicity has sense enough to know what a gem they have! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Mia Dappert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mia Dappert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:28:38 -0800 (PST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re:patterns actually, Simplicity may be really gald they have you, Martha. Read that SHOULD BE GLAD. Down here in North Carolina it seems to be the home sewing market is really dried up in the past 10 or so years. Nobody is sewing for children, Nobody is really doing sewing for themselves, There are really no fabric stores in a 100 mile radius of Charlotte beyond, Mary Jos and Hancock's, and mostly they have home deck and quilting fabric, not much in the way of people type fabric. The nearest JoAnns in 90+ miles away. There are several stores at cater to the quilting segment, and one small one that sell Upmarket/Highend fabrics. A this is an introduction to Major Patter Companies can't be selling a huge amount of home sewing patterns. Right now, all I can think of who are doing sewing are the reenactment/costume folks like us. And these are people who will go ANYWHERE, Look at everything, Buy patterns that they don't really need but collect anyway, Have projects in the planning stage for a long time. It would be interesting to know how well the patterns do in comparison to other costume patterns and general run of the mill patterns vs. home dec stuff. 18c Mia in Charlotte NC, remembering the glory days of being near Baltimore MD and Washington DC. Remembering G Street Fabrics when it actually was on G Street DC - What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!!
After reading your post I went to Amazon and typed in the title. I got a bunch of stuff but nothing on embroidery. Then I tried Gail Marsh and got more stuff but nothing on embroidery. How did you find the book? It sounds wonderful. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:48:53 + To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!! I have just received the most wonderful book from Amazon. 18th Century Embroidery Techniques by Gail Marsh, (ISBN 1 86108 476 5) and am drooling as I type. The pictures are clear, and there are diagrams. It includes silk embroidery, metal thread and spangles, whitework, quilting, tambour and chain, crewel and novelty threads,Hollie Point and knotting!! I know there will be other list members interested. I'm back to my cup of tea and the book. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
What I'm interested in knowing, is how Simplicity chooses patterns--aside from market surveys, don't they do those?--and the people who design them. Is it all freelance? I know someone via the net--or used to, she's not posting any more--who had a small line of reenactment patterns. She approached Simplicity with an idea for a pattern she thought would work well in their historic line. Simplicity told her to work it out and submit it to them on a freelance basis. I don't know what happened with her idea. But is that how all Simplicity's historic patterns are designed, by freelancers? I hate to say this but, the market for general sewing still seems to be much larger than the market for reenactment sewing. Yes, reenactors have to make their own clothes far more than most people. Yes, most women have jobs outside the home that limit their time for sewing. But there are still a lot more mainstream sewers than reenactors. Notice Simplicity hedged their bets on that bustle dress by marketing it as a wedding dress--many people get married, some more than once. Sewing is a hobby these days, not a need, for most people. Many people who could buy an $8 blouse at Wal-Mart, just want something much better quality and more stylish--and they enjoy sewing. Fran Lavolta Press Books of Historic Patterns http://www.lavoltapress.com Lalah wrote: Just to add to your observations. It is cheaper to buy clothing at WalMart than it is to make it yourself. When you have to pay ten bucks for a pattern and you can buy a blouse for eight dollars guess which most people will do. At a place in time when so many people are so busy and multi tasking is the norm, too many people don't have the time (nor sadly, the ability) to sew. People new to SCA or Ren Faires or re-enacting are the exception. They are not going to get their garb off the rack in a discount store and most of them are not accomplished at making up their own patterns. People like Martha are a godsend to them because they can purchase a pattern that will pass inspection (to all but the really critical) and that they can understand. It takes a bit of experience to deal with some of the period patterns or to work from a charted pattern on a book page. To cut this rambling short, I just want to add my Bravo Martha and hope that Simplicity has sense enough to know what a gem they have! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 185
Janet wrote: While my S.O. was wearing knee length t-tunics before I ever met him, he won't wear hose on a bet. However, weight gain plus an unwillingness to buy new clothes made me realize that, as long as his footwear covers the ankle, sweatpants in a size or two too small make a good substitute. They definitely look better than modern dance tights and most sweat pants stretch enough that they're not uncomfortable. Of course, the shopper has to be vigilant to avoid stripes and logos and strange looking fabrics but a man won't see anything unusual about wearing sweatpants, even if they do cling to legs and butt. My husband is a knight in the SCA, and has a kingdom award for authenticity. But one of his tricks is the special fighting hose he makes. He takes a pair of sweatpants and cuts off the legs at about mid-thigh level. Then he makes hosen out of bias-cut sweatpant-type material. He made the pattern for these himself, basing them on hose patterns and fitting them to his legs. He cuts the top of the hose legs so that they come to a point on the front of his thighs, and then he sews these to the sweatpant tops. They look like hose over colored breeches (white gets too dirty), but they fit like sweatpants and are much easier to make than wool hose. They even look good with a shirt or tunic. Just an idea for y'all! Oh -- yes, these are footed. Not that difficult to do, and then they are tight under boots or shoes. Gail Finke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!!
I just ordered a copy from Advanced Book Exchange--www.abebooks.com. Publication dates are marketing dates, they have little to do with when a book rolls off the press. As for Amazon, they post data when they happen to feel like it. Fran Lavolta Press Books on Historic Costuming http://www.lavoltapress.com Suzi Clarke wrote: At 17:27 24/02/2006, you wrote: I, too, could not find it at Amazon.com (the USA site), but I did a web search and found it at two UK bookshops. Here's one of them: http://www.countrybookshop.co.uk/books/index.phtml?whatfor=1861084765 Looks like it is not officially published until Monday, Feb. 27, so that may be why it's not listed in the USA Amazon site. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
I agree that many people prefer quality clothing, but far too many do not. I made a living as a seamstress for several years before retiring and most of my work was home dec or alterations (I HATE alterations). I have taught several people to sew, but they don't seem to ever have time to do it. And at the weekly auction I attend sewing machines (good ones) go for almost nothing. I learned to sew as a child and most of my clothes have always been made by my mother (when I was young) or by myself. But I am 5'9 and 71 years old. Until girls started growing taller these last few years, I couldn't get anything that came close to fitting in the stores. Anyhow, I am glad there are people designing patterns for period garb that most people who sew at all can use. I usually just make my patterns up as I go along or sort of copy them from Janet Arnold or something. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:26:53 -0800 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns What I'm interested in knowing, is how Simplicity chooses patterns--aside from market surveys, don't they do those?--and the people who design them. Is it all freelance? I know someone via the net--or used to, she's not posting any more--who had a small line of reenactment patterns. She approached Simplicity with an idea for a pattern she thought would work well in their historic line. Simplicity told her to work it out and submit it to them on a freelance basis. I don't know what happened with her idea. But is that how all Simplicity's historic patterns are designed, by freelancers? I hate to say this but, the market for general sewing still seems to be much larger than the market for reenactment sewing. Yes, reenactors have to make their own clothes far more than most people. Yes, most women have jobs outside the home that limit their time for sewing. But there are still a lot more mainstream sewers than reenactors. Notice Simplicity hedged their bets on that bustle dress by marketing it as a wedding dress--many people get married, some more than once. Sewing is a hobby these days, not a need, for most people. Many people who could buy an $8 blouse at Wal-Mart, just want something much better quality and more stylish--and they enjoy sewing. Fran Lavolta Press Books of Historic Patterns http://www.lavoltapress.com Lalah wrote: Just to add to your observations. It is cheaper to buy clothing at WalMart than it is to make it yourself. When you have to pay ten bucks for a pattern and you can buy a blouse for eight dollars guess which most people will do. At a place in time when so many people are so busy and multi tasking is the norm, too many people don't have the time (nor sadly, the ability) to sew. People new to SCA or Ren Faires or re-enacting are the exception. They are not going to get their garb off the rack in a discount store and most of them are not accomplished at making up their own patterns. People like Martha are a godsend to them because they can purchase a pattern that will pass inspection (to all but the really critical) and that they can understand. It takes a bit of experience to deal with some of the period patterns or to work from a charted pattern on a book page. To cut this rambling short, I just want to add my Bravo Martha and hope that Simplicity has sense enough to know what a gem they have! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re:patterns
Yeah, but the 8$ blouse from W-M only lasts a couple of months of wash/wear for me, while any clothing/garb I have made myself- admittedly not the best ever created- is still going strong several years later. Some has needed mending or adjustments, but because I put it together(without any serging) I know how to fix it too, so the cost per wear is much better. Just my .02 lira, Betsy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lalah Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:23 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns Just to add to your observations. It is cheaper to buy clothing at WalMart than it is to make it yourself. When you have to pay ten bucks for a pattern and you can buy a blouse for eight dollars guess which most people will do. At a place in time when so many people are so busy and multi tasking is the norm, too many people don't have the time (nor sadly, the ability) to sew. People new to SCA or Ren Faires or re-enacting are the exception. They are not going to get their garb off the rack in a discount store and most of them are not accomplished at making up their own patterns. People like Martha are a godsend to them because they can purchase a pattern that will pass inspection (to all but the really critical) and that they can understand. It takes a bit of experience to deal with some of the period patterns or to work from a charted pattern on a book page. To cut this rambling short, I just want to add my Bravo Martha and hope that Simplicity has sense enough to know what a gem they have! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Mia Dappert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mia Dappert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:28:38 -0800 (PST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re:patterns actually, Simplicity may be really gald they have you, Martha. Read that SHOULD BE GLAD. Down here in North Carolina it seems to be the home sewing market is really dried up in the past 10 or so years. Nobody is sewing for children, Nobody is really doing sewing for themselves, There are really no fabric stores in a 100 mile radius of Charlotte beyond, Mary Jos and Hancock's, and mostly they have home deck and quilting fabric, not much in the way of people type fabric. The nearest JoAnns in 90+ miles away. There are several stores at cater to the quilting segment, and one small one that sell Upmarket/Highend fabrics. A this is an introduction to Major Patter Companies can't be selling a huge amount of home sewing patterns. Right now, all I can think of who are doing sewing are the reenactment/costume folks like us. And these are people who will go ANYWHERE, Look at everything, Buy patterns that they don't really need but collect anyway, Have projects in the planning stage for a long time. It would be interesting to know how well the patterns do in comparison to other costume patterns and general run of the mill patterns vs. home dec stuff. 18c Mia in Charlotte NC, remembering the glory days of being near Baltimore MD and Washington DC. Remembering G Street Fabrics when it actually was on G Street DC - What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
My point was that most people who sew don't do it because they _have_ to. Even some who are unusual sizes. (I'm 4'9 tall, and I don't have to sew modern clothes, except for hemming a lot of them, if I don't want to.) People sew because they enjoy it. Yes, we've certainly passed the days when almost every woman who wasn't working in a factory 16 hours a day did home sewing. But then, some of them found it a pretty dreary duty. It's much nicer for people to be sewing for fun, enjoying their fancy sewing machines, their emboidery machines, their 4-color sewing magazines, and their huge fabric stashes. Fran Lavolta Press Books of Historic Patterns http://www.lavoltapress.com Lalah wrote: I agree that many people prefer quality clothing, but far too many do not. snip ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
AMEN ! Love those fabric stashes! So nice to be able to afford fabric just for fun and the time to appreciate it. Susan The universe is not to be narrowed down to the limits of our understanding...but our understanding must be stretched and enlarged to take in the image of the universe as it is discovered. Francis Bacon On Feb 24, 2006, at 4:00 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: My point was that most people who sew don't do it because they _have_ to. Even some who are unusual sizes. (I'm 4'9 tall, and I don't have to sew modern clothes, except for hemming a lot of them, if I don't want to.) People sew because they enjoy it. Yes, we've certainly passed the days when almost every woman who wasn't working in a factory 16 hours a day did home sewing. But then, some of them found it a pretty dreary duty. It's much nicer for people to be sewing for fun, enjoying their fancy sewing machines, their emboidery machines, their 4-color sewing magazines, and their huge fabric stashes. Fran Lavolta Press Books of Historic Patterns http://www.lavoltapress.com Lalah wrote: I agree that many people prefer quality clothing, but far too many do not. snip ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Plates from The Image of Ireland, 1581
This set of plates is a contemporary look at Irish costume (looks like males only, in battle scenes). http://www.lib.ed.ac.uk/about/bgallery/Gallery/researchcoll/ireland.html Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 16th century Scottish costume
Here are two pages from Scottish metrical psalter books from the 16th century. http://www.lib.ed.ac.uk/about/bgallery/Gallery/researchcoll/pages/bg0010_JPG.htm http://www.lib.ed.ac.uk/about/bgallery/Gallery/researchcoll/pages/bg0011_JPG.htm Again, only males :-( , but something is better than nothing, I guess. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tambour hook/ was A book for Bjarne, and other 18thcentury embroiderers!!
Hedgehog Handiworks also carries them. Kathleen - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tambour hook/ was A book for Bjarne, and other 18thcentury embroiderers!! Try Lacis: http://www.lacis.com/catalog/search.php. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 24, 2006 11:32 AM To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Tambour hook/ was A book for Bjarne, and other 18th century embroiderers!! Now I have had time to look at this beautiful book, I want to try tambour embroidery. (Not beading.) Does anyone have a source for the hooks? I have the handle part somewhere, but a source for that would probably be good too. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: Babylon 5
I actually met the man once at a con. Wonderful person. Sad to hear he's gone. De -Original Message- I got to see one of the G'Kar costumes at the Seattle Science Fiction Museum last weekend. The costume is almost all created out of hot glue and bits and pieces. I was so bummed to hear that Andreas Katsulas passed away from inoperable lung cancer on 13 February. loved smoking with a passion that cannot be described, was diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer; he passed away a year later, in Los Angeles, California. He was 59. He is survived by his wife and two children. The day after his death, his Babylon 5 co-star Jerry Doyle devoted much of his daily radio talk show to Katsulas, sharing stories of their days working together on Babylon 5. Regina ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: Babylon 5
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, otsisto wrote: I actually met the man once at a con. Wonderful person. Sad to hear he's gone. I had met him also. He had a tremendous presence, and I was very saddened to hear of his death. He grew up here in St. Louis, and his family was part of the local Greek Orthodox community (of which my husband is a member). The funeral was here, in fact, but very quiet; in the newspaper listing he was named only as Andrew Katsulas, and there was no obituary article. Yet one more reason I am a merciless nag to my friends who smoke. I have seen too many people die of preventable lung cancer. No costume content here, alas, unless I point out that cigarettes do very nasty things to fabric (one more good reason to quit!). --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: home sewing
It may be cheaper to buy clothes at Walmart than it is to make them, but not everyone shops at Walmart. Political discussions aside -- there are plenty of other places to buy clothes, and some of them cost big bucks. You can make a Vogue garment for a lot less than it costs to buy some clothes, or for the same price but in exactly the fabric you want. That said, I don't sew my clothes. Who has the time??? But last weekend I made my family flannel pajama pants (lounge pants). These truly are a garment you can buy cheaper than you can sew, but our Joanne's is going out of business (wah!) and all the flannel was 60% off. No buys on good fabric -- this Joanne's rarely had any to begin with. Gail Finke ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Babylon 5
At 06:03 AM 2/24/2006, you wrote: I saw that we had lost Andreas last week, hits home right now as my father just had surgery for lung cancer (caught unbelievable early, excellent prognosis). There will never be another G'Kar. Catherine Oh, thank goodness Catherine for your father. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] How Simplicity chooses patterns
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns What I'm interested in knowing, is how Simplicity chooses patterns--aside from market surveys, don't they do those?--and the people who design them. Is it all freelance? I know someone via the net--or used to, she's not posting any more--who had a small line of reenactment patterns. She approached Simplicity with an idea for a pattern she thought would work well in their historic line. Simplicity told her to work it out and submit it to them on a freelance basis. I don't know what happened with her idea. But is that how all Simplicity's historic patterns are designed, by freelancers? I can answer this in any depth you like. Not only do I design for Simplicity, last summer Andrea Schewe and I gave a slide talk at Costume College on the inner workings at Simplicity. We interviewed everybody from the sketch artists to the man in the mailroom and took photographs of them at work. The fashion designs for Simplicity are done in house. There are drapers and seamstresses right there. The craft, home dec, and costume designs are done by freelancers (read No Benefits.) We get royalties only. Some of us are in New York and schlep sketches and muslin mocks-ups over to the design office to pitch an idea. Some people are elsewhere in the country and mail things in. They choose designs (and decide whether to keep them in the catalogue) based on sales. Your design has to sell enough copies to hold its place in the drawer at JoAnn's or Wall Mart. They tend to work with people they know because it's very exacting - even for the Halloween costumes with the zipper up the back. If you want to know more, just ask. I might have an answer. Martha ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] OT Smoking
At 08:13 PM 2/23/2006, you wrote: My father passed away after fighting emphysema for about 7 years. It was a mercy because he was bright and alert right up until the end. He just was slowly drowning because of 45-50 years of smoking. Every time I see someone light up I want to beat them! It's not that the death is so bad - it's the dying. Way too often it is long and agonizing for everyone involved! Wanda I agree with you Wanda. My husband wants to have a commercial of a young person lighting up, saying it's my choice, if I die, it will only affect me. Then show that person grow older, and how as they go through life; falling in love, getting married, having kids, then young grandkids. A progression until they die relatively early in life of cancer or other smoking related illness and show the grief of those they leave behind. The idea is to show how smoking affects their whole family, not just their personal bodies. I know we all die sometime of something. But I know in my Mom's case, she was in excellent health otherwise. No history of anything, ate right, exercised, everything good she could do, except she smoked from the age of 16 till she died a couple of months past her 73rd birthday, with only a few years where she had quit. She was given smokes from an American military man sometime after the bombing in Japan. As a Japanese woman, she had a life expectancy of her 80s or higher. She left knowing she wouldn't see her the grand daughter she had waited her whole life to hold. But thankfully, she is no longer in the intense pain she had from the cancer, which had spread to her bones in her spine and beyond. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
At 12:26 PM 2/24/2006, you wrote: Many people who could buy an $8 blouse at Wal-Mart, just want something much better quality and more stylish--and they enjoy sewing. Fran I agree Fran. I hate buying clothes at Wal-Mart, and no longer support the store. I bought some pants and a blouse there once, and they fell apart after only a few months of basic use. Pathetic. It's bad enough I can't find anything to fit me as a plus sized person, but I would expect clothes to last longer than a few months. But that's what we've become, a throw-away society. Companies expect us to buy something and throw it away after a short period of time, and that's sad. Thankfully, I learned how to sew from my Mom long ago, and I've gotten to sewing more and more of my regular clothes, not just for fun, but because I want something that will fit all of me, and last longer. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Babylon 5
At 07:55 PM 2/23/2006, you wrote: Oh, man; I *hate* that. Small cell lung cancer is a truely ugly disease. The *two* year survival rate is *20%* Susan, whose beloved Mother-in-law lived 13 months with small cell. - Susan Farmer I understand. My mom had squamous(sp?) cell and lived 12 months after diagnosis (died last May 1st), sixteen months from the time her pains started. My beloved father in law, who treated me as his own daughter, also died of cancer in just a month after diagnosis, although we know he was sick for months before. He passed on a year before my Mom in February. I hates Cancer, I do! Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How Simplicity chooses patterns
OK out of lurkdom for me waves at everyone As an experienced sewer but relative novice at historical stuff I would love to hear ALL the gossip on how Simplicity works. As a slight aside I literally just (last Friday)bought 5724 to make for my 14 yr old to wear to a fantasy ball in the summer, (I haven't decided on my outfit yet) It won't end up being period accurate but more inspired by... so it's very cool to know the person who designed it is here. Thank you. Mandy in the UK www.mandyoldroyd.com www.theoldroyds.co.uk ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] How Simplicity chooses patterns
I can answer this in any depth you like. Not only do I design for Simplicity, last summer Andrea Schewe and I gave a slide talk at Costume College on the inner workings at Simplicity. Have you ever thought of writing an article on this for _Sew News_ or _Threads_? Or maybe you already have, I don't subscribe to either any more (got tired of these magazines publishing mostly beginner articles). The craft, home dec, and costume designs are done by freelancers (read No Benefits.) We get royalties only. Some of us are in New York and schlep sketches and muslin mocks-ups over to the design office to pitch an idea. Some people are elsewhere in the country and mail things in. Are they fairly open to acquiring new freelance designers? They choose designs (and decide whether to keep them in the catalogue) based on sales. I've heard that, yeah. Thanks, Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
But that's what we've become, a throw-away society. Companies expect us to buy something and throw it away after a short period of time, and that's sad. Well, that's what some (not all) manufacturers _want_. I'm not sure all buyers are happy about it. It really depends. Some designer clothing just caters to the desire to have something different without being better quality. Like rib T-shirts or tank tops or camisoles or henleys with a little lace sewn on here and there. Anyone can dye a cotton knit shirt from Dharma and add interesting trims, cheaper. (I've been doing a lot of that.) But some designer clothes are really well made. I've got Ralph Lauren wool jackets you can throw on the floor and walk on them (which I do, being a slob), and they not only don't wrinkle, they last for years. Thankfully, I learned how to sew from my Mom long ago, and I've gotten to sewing more and more of my regular clothes, not just for fun, but because I want something that will fit all of me, and last longer. If anyone wants some fabric with hand embroidery and hand crochet cheap, to make into this season's eyelet type clothing looks, the eBay seller china-usa has great tablecloths. I machine dyed one of their tablecloths to make into a skirt. Came out great, took the dye well, and the embroidery and crochet stayed rock solid through all that agitation. So I just bought two more--$9 apiece including napkins, and all hand work. I haven't tried dyeing any of their all crochet pieces yet, but I'm thinking about it. They have great Edwardian look hand-crocheted collars at $12 apiece. Fran Lavolta Press http://www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: Babylon 5
At 02:51 PM 2/24/2006, you wrote: The funeral was here, in fact, but very quiet; in the newspaper listing he was named only as Andrew Katsulas, and there was no obituary article. I met him at a con as well, and was told he was a very private person, which is why he didn't give out autographs like the rest of the cast did. That may also explain why I didn't see much on regular printed newspapers or on TV about his passing. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
snip Notice Simplicity hedged their bets on that bustle dress by marketing it as a wedding dress--many people get married, some more than once. Sewing is a hobby these days, not a need, for most people. Many people who could buy an $8 blouse at Wal-Mart, just want something much better quality and more stylish--and they enjoy sewing. Fran Lavolta Press Books of Historic Patterns http://www.lavoltapress.com snip Marketing patterns to brides is something you see from several of their historical patterns, if you look in the printed catalogue at the fabric shop you'll notice that if the dress in the photo is not already white they often have an artist's sketch of it in white with a veil. The ones I particularly remember are the 'Shakespeare in love' gown and Martha's two day dresses with pagoda sleeves. Because a wedding dress is the garment a woman is most likely to have custom made and be willing to spend a lot of money on it makes sense that a pattern company would try to get as big a share of that market as possible. In reality I wouldn't be surprised if the historical themed weddings was a bigger market than re-enactors. Elizabeth Elizabeth Walpole Canberra Australia ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au http://au.geocities.com/e_walpole/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] books
I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. You can see the Costume books (103 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=costumeview=Castlegrounds Textiles (113 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=textilesview=Castlegrounds Archaeology (108 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=archaeologyview=Castlegrounds I only have a little over 400 books listed so far... still lots to go. Anyone else doing this? Beth Matney ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books
On Friday 24 February 2006 8:05 pm, Beth and Bob Matney wrote: I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. [snipping URLs] I only have a little over 400 books listed so far... still lots to go. Anyone else doing this? Using what for time? When I retire, maybe. Ooooh, I made the mistake of looking at your list. You have NESATs 2 and 4. Envy, drool! -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics is like sex; sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.--Richard Feynman ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books
At 05:05 PM 2/24/2006, you wrote: I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. You can see the Costume books (103 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=costumeview=Castlegrounds Textiles (113 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=textilesview=Castlegrounds Archaeology (108 titles) at: http://www.librarything.com/catalog.php?tag=archaeologyview=Castlegrounds I only have a little over 400 books listed so far... still lots to go. Anyone else doing this? Beth Matney Not yet. I've been telling myself for years that I need to do something like this. But I'll definitely need a lifetime membership :-D. Thanks for sharing the site. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] books
I have a librarything account (Jaie) I've only so far gotten my paperbacks up there but so far so good. I'm going to get a paid account here pretty soon. Bice On 2/24/06, Catherine Olanich Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 24 February 2006 8:05 pm, Beth and Bob Matney wrote: I have been cataloging my reference collection on librarything. [snipping URLs] I only have a little over 400 books listed so far... still lots to go. Anyone else doing this? Using what for time? When I retire, maybe. Ooooh, I made the mistake of looking at your list. You have NESATs 2 and 4. Envy, drool! -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics is like sex; sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.--Richard Feynman ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
And then there's the strange folks like me--I'll buy the cheap modern clothes so I can spend my limited leisure time doing what I love--historical sewing. I don't get any emotional charge out of running up a modern blouse on the serger, but lots of fulfillment in doing fussy work on a period project. My time is limited and so are my resources, so I like to spend both judiciously. LuAnn - Original Message - From: Lalahmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costumemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns I agree that many people prefer quality clothing, but far too many do not. I made a living as a seamstress for several years before retiring and most of my work was home dec or alterations (I HATE alterations). I have taught several people to sew, but they don't seem to ever have time to do it. And at the weekly auction I attend sewing machines (good ones) go for almost nothing. I learned to sew as a child and most of my clothes have always been made by my mother (when I was young) or by myself. But I am 5'9 and 71 years old. Until girls started growing taller these last few years, I couldn't get anything that came close to fitting in the stores. Anyhow, I am glad there are people designing patterns for period garb that most people who sew at all can use. I usually just make my patterns up as I go along or sort of copy them from Janet Arnold or something. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Lavolta Press [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:26:53 -0800 To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns What I'm interested in knowing, is how Simplicity chooses patterns--aside from market surveys, don't they do those?--and the people who design them. Is it all freelance? I know someone via the net--or used to, she's not posting any more--who had a small line of reenactment patterns. She approached Simplicity with an idea for a pattern she thought would work well in their historic line. Simplicity told her to work it out and submit it to them on a freelance basis. I don't know what happened with her idea. But is that how all Simplicity's historic patterns are designed, by freelancers? I hate to say this but, the market for general sewing still seems to be much larger than the market for reenactment sewing. Yes, reenactors have to make their own clothes far more than most people. Yes, most women have jobs outside the home that limit their time for sewing. But there are still a lot more mainstream sewers than reenactors. Notice Simplicity hedged their bets on that bustle dress by marketing it as a wedding dress--many people get married, some more than once. Sewing is a hobby these days, not a need, for most people. Many people who could buy an $8 blouse at Wal-Mart, just want something much better quality and more stylish--and they enjoy sewing. Fran Lavolta Press Books of Historic Patterns http://www.lavoltapress.comhttp://www.lavoltapress.com/ Lalah wrote: Just to add to your observations. It is cheaper to buy clothing at WalMart than it is to make it yourself. When you have to pay ten bucks for a pattern and you can buy a blouse for eight dollars guess which most people will do. At a place in time when so many people are so busy and multi tasking is the norm, too many people don't have the time (nor sadly, the ability) to sew. People new to SCA or Ren Faires or re-enacting are the exception. They are not going to get their garb off the rack in a discount store and most of them are not accomplished at making up their own patterns. People like Martha are a godsend to them because they can purchase a pattern that will pass inspection (to all but the really critical) and that they can understand. It takes a bit of experience to deal with some of the period patterns or to work from a charted pattern on a book page. To cut this rambling short, I just want to add my Bravo Martha and hope that Simplicity has sense enough to know what a gem they have! Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. just the net you need ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list
Re: [h-cost] Re: patterns fashion
On Feb 24, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Kimiko Small wrote: But that's what we've become, a throw-away society. Companies expect us to buy something and throw it away after a short period of time, and that's sad. That's what passes for Fashion, folks! Clothes don't have to last. They are out of fashion and are thrown away. I can't believe what my Sister in Law and my Niece spend on fashion- at outlets, no less. The quality is so poor plus, in my opinion, they look like they work the street for a living wearing these clothes ! And they pass remarks about MY clothes. We all went to London and Paris this past August. My 21 year old niece had nasty words for people who stared at her. Well...when you are in Fashion Meccas like these, and no one else is wearing anything remotely like you are-? And, your male friend has tattoos from wrist to shoulder on one arm only...H I say this sitting here wearing my sweats. In Europe, I wore shorts and t-shirts. No fashion model am I !!! But then, I don't try to be one. Off the soap box for now. Susan Creative Clutter is Better Than Idle Neatness Carol H. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
In a message dated 2/24/2006 9:13:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'll buy the cheap modern clothes so I can spend my limited leisure time doing what I love--historical sewing. I don't get any emotional charge out of running up a modern blouse on the serger, but lots of fulfillment in doing fussy work on a period project. And that is exactly how it is with me. I put my limited time into the historical sewing, and the occasional gifts for a grandchild or art-to-wear type things. When one adds the value of one's time to the cost of materials, modern clothes aren't cost-effective to make. I must say, too, that durability iof ready-to-wear doesn't seem to be a problem for me. I've been revisiting clothes I haven't worn in a while (and weeding out some to give away), and I have some garments that are 10, 15, or 20 years old--and these were definitely moderately priced to begin with, not expensive. (One of the oldest garments in my wardrobe is a Judy Bond blouse that I know I bought at least 20 years ago.) Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
Quoting Lalah [EMAIL PROTECTED]: *snippage* To cut this rambling short, I just want to add my Bravo Martha and hope that Simplicity has sense enough to know what a gem they have! I know that $$$ speak volumes to Simplicity, but what about letters? Susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Tennessee Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] corded corset shrinkage?
One last question for the night: A friend helped me drape a pattern for an early 17th c. fencing doublet. For protection and support I want to cord the lining/interlining like the corset described here: http://homepage.mac.com/festive_attyre/research/cording/cord.html before adding quilted cotton padding/outer layer. Does anyone have any experience with possible shrinkage? The site mentions no exact numbers and that it's highly variable by fabric type. I'm planning on making the corseted part out of cotton canvas. Thoughts? Thanks again, Allison T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns
Wow, This sounds familiar! I have more shoes than any other man I know. Most of them cost at least $100, but none of those are suitable for daily wear! My regular shoes are cheap and I wear them untill I just can't get away with it anymore. Sometimes beyond that. People often dont recognize me out of costume because I dress well in period, but shabbily out! I actually have just started spending some money to amend that, but it is money that I have been forced to spend out of embarrassment. I wonder how common this is on this list? Ron Carnegie - Original Message - From: LuAnn Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re:patterns And then there's the strange folks like me--I'll buy the cheap modern clothes so I can spend my limited leisure time doing what I love--historical sewing. I don't get any emotional charge out of running up a modern blouse on the serger, but lots of fulfillment in doing fussy work on a period project. My time is limited and so are my resources, so I like to spend both judiciously. LuAnn - Original Message - /h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Quality of clothing, Was: patterns
*snip* This sounds familiar! I have more shoes than any other man I know. Most of them cost at least $100, but none of those are suitable for daily wear! My regular shoes are cheap and I wear them untill I just can't get away with it anymore. Sometimes beyond that. People often dont recognize me out of costume because I dress well in period, but shabbily out! I actually have just started spending some money to amend that, but it is money that I have been forced to spend out of embarrassment. I wonder how common this is on this list? I'm betting that it's much more common than one would think. I know a number of folks whose period dress is better made and is a much higher fabric quality than what they wear in the modern world, myself included. Since my illness last year, my uniform has been sweat pants/capris, tee shirts and tennis shoes. I've pretty much stopped doing my beloved Italian gowns and have opted for 14th century stuff since it's easier for me to manage. My hair is much shorter now (it started falling out 4 months after my hospital stay); it's been years since it's been this short and I can't do a thing with it! :-) Most of the stuff that I've made recently is made of linen, linen/silk blend, wool, wool/silk blend. None of my modern clothing comes even close. kate ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Mystery Bag
Melanie, you're an angel! Thank you SO much!!! I had tried there only briefly before I left for NY and couldn't find it. Thanks again!! Kathy It's from the Los Angeles County Museum of Art: Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert ItÂ’s never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every truth there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart somewhere to receive it. -Ivan Panin __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
