Re: [hlds] Sliced Steam IDs after yesterdays update
I can't confirm this. DODS and TF2 logs seems to be fine, no sliced SteamIDs. Try without any plugins. All, After yesterdays update i noticed i had some people with duplicate entires in psychostats, i had a look at the log files and found entries like this: L 02/18/2009 - 11:42:21: oritsuro4STEAM_0:1:21944 connected, address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: L 02/18/2009 - 11:42:22: oritsuro4STEAM_0:1:21944994 STEAM USERID validated and L 02/18/2009 - 11:50:48: TL. Scratchy6STEAM_0:1:16101 connected, address yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy: L 02/18/2009 - 11:50:48: TL. Scratchy6STEAM_0:1:16101845 STEAM USERID validated Has anyone else noticed something like this where steam id's are being cut off on the connect event but showed in full on the validated event? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] steam service failed message
i got this error too
and another error is materials\models\player\american\american_gear.vmt
VertexLitGeneric
{
$basetexture models\player\american\american_gear
$bumpmap models\player\american\american_gear_normal
$phong 1
// $phongexponent 5
$phongboost 1
$phongfresnelranges [1 2 6]
// $halflambert 1
$phongexponenttexture models\player\american\american_gear_exp
// $phongalbedotint 1 }
the last } was comment, so stupid, why don't fix it
2009/2/17 Lynn lynnforti...@sympatico.ca
Updated to the latest version of DODS yesterday and now all my servers have
this message in console on a start or restart and it dumps to an mmdp file:
steamservice.cpp 275 Assertion Failed: Failed to start in process steam
service.
Anyone else seeing this or know what it is?
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Re: [hlds] Sliced Steam IDs after yesterdays update
Ah yes, i found the plugin that was causing this. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.dewrote: I can't confirm this. DODS and TF2 logs seems to be fine, no sliced SteamIDs. Try without any plugins. All, After yesterdays update i noticed i had some people with duplicate entires in psychostats, i had a look at the log files and found entries like this: L 02/18/2009 - 11:42:21: oritsuro4STEAM_0:1:21944 connected, address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: L 02/18/2009 - 11:42:22: oritsuro4STEAM_0:1:21944994 STEAM USERID validated and L 02/18/2009 - 11:50:48: TL. Scratchy6STEAM_0:1:16101 connected, address yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy: L 02/18/2009 - 11:50:48: TL. Scratchy6STEAM_0:1:16101845 STEAM USERID validated Has anyone else noticed something like this where steam id's are being cut off on the connect event but showed in full on the validated event? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Orange Box Engine Update Released
Oh well, time to change the whole system to entirely ignore the STEAM_X: part. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Orange Box Engine Update Released
Nothing with valve is future proof, they will find a way to mess it up. Look at dods, how many updates did they mess that game up with? I can recall a few that were showstoppers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Orange Box Engine Update Released But now at least we'll be able to update our plugins/group banning scripts to no longer rely on the STEAM_X format and be future proof. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Patrick, Grow up and/or qq moar. NO U. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Orange Box Engine Update Released
Seem like net_splitpacket_maxrate max was changed to 1048576 now, this have probably to do with the rate over 3 fix. 2009/2/18 SmOoThEm ad...@righttorule.com Nothing with valve is future proof, they will find a way to mess it up. Look at dods, how many updates did they mess that game up with? I can recall a few that were showstoppers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Orange Box Engine Update Released But now at least we'll be able to update our plugins/group banning scripts to no longer rely on the STEAM_X format and be future proof. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Patrick, Grow up and/or qq moar. NO U. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater, there are a few hater groups like this, chrisaster got one as well and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the wrong ones. And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :) http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful links if you find any. Peace out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Deutscheprohackers And this guy selling exploits and... yeah, you already know. He got a fan club, but I can't view the members. Anyway, hurry up before these maggets understand what is going on, this is just to easy to last. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430217890 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Zanork_0f_g0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/k_ http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HACK-4-LIFE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791429761110 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/P7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/houseofhacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MultihackAdminTeam On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater, there are a few hater groups like this, chrisaster got one as well and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the wrong ones. And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :) http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful links if you find any. Peace out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Deutscheprohackers And this guy selling exploits and... yeah, you already know. He got a fan club, but I can't view the members. Anyway, hurry up before these maggets understand what is going on, this is just to easy to last. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430217890 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
Ya know eventually your gonna ban every gamer playing tf2? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Zanork_0f_g0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/k_ http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HACK-4-LIFE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791429761110 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/P7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/houseofhacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MultihackAdminTeam On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater, there are a few hater groups like this, chrisaster got one as well and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the wrong ones. And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :) http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful links if you find any. Peace out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Deutscheprohackers And this guy selling exploits and... yeah, you already know. He got a fan club, but I can't view the members. Anyway, hurry up before these maggets understand what is going on, this is just to easy to last. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430217890 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
I'm *totally* ok with all my players being banned from F7LANS :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Newlove Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:40 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Banning TrashedGamers is not a very good idea, the group is huge and if there are many troublemakers in that group there is still going to be at least 50,000 players banned that is not a problem. Oh, and btw. Group banning is no different than banning for being named myg0t or similar. But I would be careful with friends banning, I have used it with a few of the most active cheaters that are admins in many groups or members in many groups and have friends that are too when picking a few at random. But I believe there is a higher risk that someone innocent gets banned when banning friends. It could be someone that just wanted to talk to the person for some reason or the subject sent a friend invite and the victim accepted without thinking something bad would come out of it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I don't necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with him on this... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful links if you find any. Peace out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Deutscheprohackers And this guy selling exploits and... yeah, you already know. He got a fan club, but I can't view the members. Anyway, hurry up before these maggets understand what is going on, this is just to easy to last. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430217890 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
I do not agree. I believe that even without any anticheat only an immature minority will cheat even when there is no risk of punishment. But if I eventually am wrong and one day all TF2 players are suddenly raging cheaters, then I am long gone. Besides, 1500 cheating players that are mostly playing CS:S, maybe the game with most cheaters ever, does not have much in common with the average TF2 player. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com wrote: Ya know eventually your gonna ban every gamer playing tf2? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Zanork_0f_g0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/k_ http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HACK-4-LIFE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791429761110 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/P7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/houseofhacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MultihackAdminTeam On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater, there are a few hater groups like this, chrisaster got one as well and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the wrong ones. And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :) http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful links if you find any. Peace out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Deutscheprohackers And this guy selling exploits and... yeah, you already know. He got a fan club, but I can't view the members. Anyway, hurry up before these maggets understand what is going on, this
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
I dunno... I see the value of trading bans for known problem players... But I can now see where it can go wrong. Case in point - I've already been accused of being a hacker myself because I added one to my friendslist after seeing him bandied about in this mailing list (as did several others from this list - but I guess they're all hackers or harboring them as well). Of course, all this cheating I'm doing isn't helping my rank much on the TrashedGamers servers... I'm still a way better technology guy than I am a video game player :) Regardless - the problem here is that it takes as little as one vindictive tween that reads too much 4chan to throw your data off. And there's loads of those around (even in here, obviously). On the other hand - problem players have to be handled. I can understand why some ban lists require proof beyond some kind of reasonable doubt. But what's reasonable doubt these days? It seems kind of arbitrary and open to interpretation... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Newlove Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You I do not agree. I believe that even without any anticheat only an immature minority will cheat even when there is no risk of punishment. But if I eventually am wrong and one day all TF2 players are suddenly raging cheaters, then I am long gone. Besides, 1500 cheating players that are mostly playing CS:S, maybe the game with most cheaters ever, does not have much in common with the average TF2 player. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com wrote: Ya know eventually your gonna ban every gamer playing tf2? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Zanork_0f_g0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/k_ http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HACK-4-LIFE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791429761110 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/P7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/houseofhacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MultihackAdminTeam On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater, there are a few hater groups like this, chrisaster got one as well and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the wrong ones. And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :) http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful links if you find any. Peace out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
I was mainly talking about group banning and I cannot think of any reason why you would be in any of the groups listed. As I said, being on someone's friends list is in my opinion much different and banning players based on their friends list is best done with care. But that is not up to me or you what other admins decide to do so as I also said, if group banning (or friends banning) is right or wrong is not worth discussing because it will never lead anywhere, if anything it will just make people angry with each other. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: I dunno... I see the value of trading bans for known problem players... But I can now see where it can go wrong. Case in point - I've already been accused of being a hacker myself because I added one to my friendslist after seeing him bandied about in this mailing list (as did several others from this list - but I guess they're all hackers or harboring them as well). Of course, all this cheating I'm doing isn't helping my rank much on the TrashedGamers servers... I'm still a way better technology guy than I am a video game player :) Regardless - the problem here is that it takes as little as one vindictive tween that reads too much 4chan to throw your data off. And there's loads of those around (even in here, obviously). On the other hand - problem players have to be handled. I can understand why some ban lists require proof beyond some kind of reasonable doubt. But what's reasonable doubt these days? It seems kind of arbitrary and open to interpretation... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Newlove Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:55 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You I do not agree. I believe that even without any anticheat only an immature minority will cheat even when there is no risk of punishment. But if I eventually am wrong and one day all TF2 players are suddenly raging cheaters, then I am long gone. Besides, 1500 cheating players that are mostly playing CS:S, maybe the game with most cheaters ever, does not have much in common with the average TF2 player. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Justin mysteriousjus...@gmail.com wrote: Ya know eventually your gonna ban every gamer playing tf2? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Zanork_0f_g0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/k_ http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HACK-4-LIFE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791429761110 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/P7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/houseofhacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/MultihackAdminTeam On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com wrote: Both these groups are owned by the same guy and he is one of the most active ones. I don't know for sure because I could not find anything about it, but it seems that ROLEX/GodLike is just another cheater, there are a few hater groups like this, chrisaster got one as well and he is even a member. The ЯυĿż is THE BEST (R) is basically a fan club for a known cheater (ЯυĿż which is also admin there is both VAC banned and a member of many other cheating groups). Bottom line is no one that is not in the cheating community would be a member of those groups unless they just join groups at random and stumbled upon the wrong ones. And here is a few more I just found when I checked those links. :) http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AACbyC_Style http://steamcommunity.com/groups/welovehackz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/WCSSH On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:37 AM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random
Re: [hlds] Orange Box Engine Update Released
Ty for the update, though were still seeing the console error a few have reported. Just after this error is sent to the console a mini dump is generated: Steam__273447__2009_2_18T0_7_59C171 steamservice.cpp (275) : Assertion Failed: Failed to start in-process Steam Service I'm sure somebody sent a dump ur way by now, if not I'd be happy to... thx From: Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:44:26 PM Subject: [hlds] Orange Box Engine Update Released Updates to the Orange Box Engine have been released. The updates are optional for Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source. The specific changes include: - Updated the engine to report SteamIDs using the Steam_0 format instead of Steam_1 - Fixed problems in Half-Life 2: Episode Two, Portal, and Source mods running the current Orange Box engine - Reverted the change that capped rate at 3 Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Orange Box Engine Update Released
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:31:15 -0800 From: mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Orange Box Engine Update Released Ty for the update, though were still seeing the console error a few have reported. Just after this error is sent to the console a mini dump is generated: Steam__273447__2009_2_18T0_7_59C171 steamservice.cpp (275) : Assertion Failed: Failed to start in-process Steam Service I'm sure somebody sent a dump ur way by now, if not I'd be happy to... thx From: Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:44:26 PM Subject: [hlds] Orange Box Engine Update Released Updates to the Orange Box Engine have been released. The updates are optional for Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source. The specific changes include: - Updated the engine to report SteamIDs using the Steam_0 format instead of Steam_1 - Fixed problems in Half-Life 2: Episode Two, Portal, and Source mods running the current Orange Box engine - Reverted the change that capped rate at 3 Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now
Its already done... From: AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:46:48 AM Subject: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now Please, don't change again the SteamIDs just because of the complainers. Some plugin authors already started fixing their plugin to support the new SteamIDs, and some leagues with huge database of SteamIDs also started changing them to the new format. I don't think they'll be happy to change it again to STEAM_0 if you change it back just because of some people complaining. Thanks AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now
The topic was created before it was done. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Robert Whelan Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:37 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now Its already done... From: AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:46:48 AM Subject: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now Please, don't change again the SteamIDs just because of the complainers. Some plugin authors already started fixing their plugin to support the new SteamIDs, and some leagues with huge database of SteamIDs also started changing them to the new format. I don't think they'll be happy to change it again to STEAM_0 if you change it back just because of some people complaining. Thanks AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Sliced Steam IDs after yesterdays update
What plugin was it, or was it a private plugin? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Arg! chillic...@gmail.com wrote: Ah yes, i found the plugin that was causing this. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.de wrote: I can't confirm this. DODS and TF2 logs seems to be fine, no sliced SteamIDs. Try without any plugins. All, After yesterdays update i noticed i had some people with duplicate entires in psychostats, i had a look at the log files and found entries like this: L 02/18/2009 - 11:42:21: oritsuro4STEAM_0:1:21944 connected, address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: L 02/18/2009 - 11:42:22: oritsuro4STEAM_0:1:21944994 STEAM USERID validated and L 02/18/2009 - 11:50:48: TL. Scratchy6STEAM_0:1:16101 connected, address yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy: L 02/18/2009 - 11:50:48: TL. Scratchy6STEAM_0:1:16101845 STEAM USERID validated Has anyone else noticed something like this where steam id's are being cut off on the connect event but showed in full on the validated event? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now
and the reply was after the fact... hence my comment From: Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:15:31 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now The topic was created before it was done. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Robert Whelan Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:37 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now Its already done... From: AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:46:48 AM Subject: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now Please, don't change again the SteamIDs just because of the complainers. Some plugin authors already started fixing their plugin to support the new SteamIDs, and some leagues with huge database of SteamIDs also started changing them to the new format. I don't think they'll be happy to change it again to STEAM_0 if you change it back just because of some people complaining. Thanks AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
Frankly, I ban based on a guilty until proven innocent standard. If you cheat in one game, you are likely to cheat in another. Once a cheater always a cheater. I could go on and on with cliches, but the bottom line is that I don't care if someone innocent was accidentally in one of these groups or accidentally friends with one of these people. People should know better, and being lenient is what lets these people thrive. Also, I didn't say I was going to ban Karl's spammy group. I said I banned him because he decided to be on the friends list of a hacker that got posted here. His group is huge because he - self admittedly - has some spambot that gets friend IDs from the other groups out there and spams invites to them. His group is artificially huge, but that is a different subject altogether. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:40 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Banning TrashedGamers is not a very good idea, the group is huge and if there are many troublemakers in that group there is still going to be at least 50,000 players banned that is not a problem. Oh, and btw. Group banning is no different than banning for being named myg0t or similar. But I would be careful with friends banning, I have used it with a few of the most active cheaters that are admins in many groups or members in many groups and have friends that are too when picking a few at random. But I believe there is a higher risk that someone innocent gets banned when banning friends. It could be someone that just wanted to talk to the person for some reason or the subject sent a friend invite and the victim accepted without thinking something bad would come out of it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I don't necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with him on this... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful links if you find any. Peace out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/elextronic-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GodlikeHackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Infinity-Hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcore-hackers
[hlds] New class splicing exploit
Just banned this lovely fellow: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLSTEAM_0:0:9414637 Who was running around firing a blutsaugher, as a pyro, at flamethrower speeds, reloading instantly. Made quite a spectacular noise, and killed anything instantly. If anyone knows how to perform this exploit, let me know and i'll throw a SM plugin together to stop it. I'll mess with it when i'm done working today and see if i can't figure it out - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
Scanning 115 friends of id/msleeper for vacBanned status... http://steamcommunity.com/id/LittleDogX lolz - Neph On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Frankly, I ban based on a guilty until proven innocent standard. If you cheat in one game, you are likely to cheat in another. Once a cheater always a cheater. I could go on and on with cliches, but the bottom line is that I don't care if someone innocent was accidentally in one of these groups or accidentally friends with one of these people. People should know better, and being lenient is what lets these people thrive. Also, I didn't say I was going to ban Karl's spammy group. I said I banned him because he decided to be on the friends list of a hacker that got posted here. His group is huge because he - self admittedly - has some spambot that gets friend IDs from the other groups out there and spams invites to them. His group is artificially huge, but that is a different subject altogether. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:40 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Banning TrashedGamers is not a very good idea, the group is huge and if there are many troublemakers in that group there is still going to be at least 50,000 players banned that is not a problem. Oh, and btw. Group banning is no different than banning for being named myg0t or similar. But I would be careful with friends banning, I have used it with a few of the most active cheaters that are admins in many groups or members in many groups and have friends that are too when picking a few at random. But I believe there is a higher risk that someone innocent gets banned when banning friends. It could be someone that just wanted to talk to the person for some reason or the subject sent a friend invite and the victim accepted without thinking something bad would come out of it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I don't necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with him on this... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful links if you find any. Peace out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master http://steamcommunity.com/groups/unlimitedhackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/theg0t http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Hack-Sector http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ethug http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Angel-Hacker http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hardcorehackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4567319757432567564347
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
We said this on IRC, I never said anything about VAC bans. That and I don't actually know who this guy is and I don't remember adding him to my friends list! On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 12:26 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: Scanning 115 friends of id/msleeper for vacBanned status... http://steamcommunity.com/id/LittleDogX lolz - Neph On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Frankly, I ban based on a guilty until proven innocent standard. If you cheat in one game, you are likely to cheat in another. Once a cheater always a cheater. I could go on and on with cliches, but the bottom line is that I don't care if someone innocent was accidentally in one of these groups or accidentally friends with one of these people. People should know better, and being lenient is what lets these people thrive. Also, I didn't say I was going to ban Karl's spammy group. I said I banned him because he decided to be on the friends list of a hacker that got posted here. His group is huge because he - self admittedly - has some spambot that gets friend IDs from the other groups out there and spams invites to them. His group is artificially huge, but that is a different subject altogether. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:40 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Banning TrashedGamers is not a very good idea, the group is huge and if there are many troublemakers in that group there is still going to be at least 50,000 players banned that is not a problem. Oh, and btw. Group banning is no different than banning for being named myg0t or similar. But I would be careful with friends banning, I have used it with a few of the most active cheaters that are admins in many groups or members in many groups and have friends that are too when picking a few at random. But I believe there is a higher risk that someone innocent gets banned when banning friends. It could be someone that just wanted to talk to the person for some reason or the subject sent a friend invite and the victim accepted without thinking something bad would come out of it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I don't necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with him on this... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful links if you find any. Peace out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Project-7 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ELITESAUCE http://steamcommunity.com/groups/omegacheaters http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol http://steamcommunity.com/groups/furyon-hackers http://steamcommunity.com/groups/cheat_project http://steamcommunity.com/groups/haxorzzz http://steamcommunity.com/groups/udown http://steamcommunity.com/groups/x22shop http://steamcommunity.com/groups/360-hacks http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vip-master
Re: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now
I hope the administrators had backups. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Robert Whelan mrrjwhe...@yahoo.com wrote: and the reply was after the fact... hence my comment From: Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:15:31 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now The topic was created before it was done. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Robert Whelan Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:37 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now Its already done... From: AnAkIn . anakin...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:46:48 AM Subject: [hlds] Please VALVe, keep the STEAM_1 now Please, don't change again the SteamIDs just because of the complainers. Some plugin authors already started fixing their plugin to support the new SteamIDs, and some leagues with huge database of SteamIDs also started changing them to the new format. I don't think they'll be happy to change it again to STEAM_0 if you change it back just because of some people complaining. Thanks AnAkIn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
Well, this outlines two other points... -People will ban for the most idiotic of reasons :) -VAC ban status isn't always accurate. Much as I don't like to defend a guy like msleeper, it's impossible to say whether that VAC status field is even accurate. Case in point, we have an admin who can't even explain why he has bans on record. But there it is - right there on his steam page. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969001376 We've known the guy for years, as he was with us from the old Railbait.com days. Certainly not the cheating type (but hey - you think you know a guy...) That said - these bans on record don't hinder him in any way. He can play on any VAC secure server with every game he owns. He has no idea how he got VAC banned, nor does this status impede him anywhere. He's attempted to contact support, but they ignore his mails just like they say they will. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nephyrin Zey Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:27 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Scanning 115 friends of id/msleeper for vacBanned status... http://steamcommunity.com/id/LittleDogX lolz - Neph On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Frankly, I ban based on a guilty until proven innocent standard. If you cheat in one game, you are likely to cheat in another. Once a cheater always a cheater. I could go on and on with cliches, but the bottom line is that I don't care if someone innocent was accidentally in one of these groups or accidentally friends with one of these people. People should know better, and being lenient is what lets these people thrive. Also, I didn't say I was going to ban Karl's spammy group. I said I banned him because he decided to be on the friends list of a hacker that got posted here. His group is huge because he - self admittedly - has some spambot that gets friend IDs from the other groups out there and spams invites to them. His group is artificially huge, but that is a different subject altogether. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:40 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Banning TrashedGamers is not a very good idea, the group is huge and if there are many troublemakers in that group there is still going to be at least 50,000 players banned that is not a problem. Oh, and btw. Group banning is no different than banning for being named myg0t or similar. But I would be careful with friends banning, I have used it with a few of the most active cheaters that are admins in many groups or members in many groups and have friends that are too when picking a few at random. But I believe there is a higher risk that someone innocent gets banned when banning friends. It could be someone that just wanted to talk to the person for some reason or the subject sent a friend invite and the victim accepted without thinking something bad would come out of it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I don't necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with him on this... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D.
Re: [hlds] Sliced Steam IDs after yesterdays update
Connect Announce http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=77306 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com on behalf of Cc2iscooL Sent: Wed 2/18/2009 2:31 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Sliced Steam IDs after yesterdays update What plugin was it, or was it a private plugin? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Arg! chillic...@gmail.com wrote: Ah yes, i found the plugin that was causing this. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.de wrote: I can't confirm this. DODS and TF2 logs seems to be fine, no sliced SteamIDs. Try without any plugins. All, After yesterdays update i noticed i had some people with duplicate entires in psychostats, i had a look at the log files and found entries like this: L 02/18/2009 - 11:42:21: oritsuro4STEAM_0:1:21944 connected, address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: L 02/18/2009 - 11:42:22: oritsuro4STEAM_0:1:21944994 STEAM USERID validated and L 02/18/2009 - 11:50:48: TL. Scratchy6STEAM_0:1:16101 connected, address yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy: L 02/18/2009 - 11:50:48: TL. Scratchy6STEAM_0:1:16101845 STEAM USERID validated Has anyone else noticed something like this where steam id's are being cut off on the connect event but showed in full on the validated event? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New class splicing exploit
We had this one last night. I can pyro bug! STEAM_1:1:18522242 Apparently something to do with Alt-Fire -eVaDog TheVille.Org ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
This sounds like all the times I have banned someone for being a jackass on the server and they come back requesting to be unbanned saying it was their little brother, cousin, friend, dog was on their computer and it wasn't them who did it! Now how did he get become my friend... hilarious. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:36 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You We said this on IRC, I never said anything about VAC bans. That and I don't actually know who this guy is and I don't remember adding him to my friends list! On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 12:26 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: Scanning 115 friends of id/msleeper for vacBanned status... http://steamcommunity.com/id/LittleDogX lolz - Neph On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Frankly, I ban based on a guilty until proven innocent standard. If you cheat in one game, you are likely to cheat in another. Once a cheater always a cheater. I could go on and on with cliches, but the bottom line is that I don't care if someone innocent was accidentally in one of these groups or accidentally friends with one of these people. People should know better, and being lenient is what lets these people thrive. Also, I didn't say I was going to ban Karl's spammy group. I said I banned him because he decided to be on the friends list of a hacker that got posted here. His group is huge because he - self admittedly - has some spambot that gets friend IDs from the other groups out there and spams invites to them. His group is artificially huge, but that is a different subject altogether. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:40 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Banning TrashedGamers is not a very good idea, the group is huge and if there are many troublemakers in that group there is still going to be at least 50,000 players banned that is not a problem. Oh, and btw. Group banning is no different than banning for being named myg0t or similar. But I would be careful with friends banning, I have used it with a few of the most active cheaters that are admins in many groups or members in many groups and have friends that are too when picking a few at random. But I believe there is a higher risk that someone innocent gets banned when banning friends. It could be someone that just wanted to talk to the person for some reason or the subject sent a friend invite and the victim accepted without thinking something bad would come out of it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I don't necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with him on this... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web interface, but after looking around for an hour at the steamcommunity I found that it was quite useful for proactive banning since I now have over 1000 new bans of known cheaters (and I am also quite astounded, I would not dare to dream about people being this dumb). I started off simply by searching for hacking and such and checking admins at the groups, random members, friends of the most active ones, groups with many VAC banned members, members that were part of many suspect groups, etc. Here are most groups I found with admitted cheaters and troublemakers. It appears as if there were mostly CS:S players but also a lot of CS, TF2 and L4D. Please post more useful links if you find any. Peace out. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gangster-strike http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa http://steamcommunity.com/groups/103582791430166586 http://steamcommunity.com/groups/g0ts http://steamcommunity.com/groups/phoenix-hacks
Re: [hlds] Sliced Steam IDs after yesterdays update
Oh and i'm assuming if you are running connect announce you were probably running HLStatsX: CE so you will need to cleanup your DB. You will want to find the last wrong record that was recorded in your db and delete everything past that that has a uniqueID with a char count of 16. Here is my sql query: DELETE FROM `hlstats_PlayerUniqueIds` WHERE (char_length( uniqueId ) =16 AND `playerId` =30653) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:59 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Sliced Steam IDs after yesterdays update Connect Announce http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=77306 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com on behalf of Cc2iscooL Sent: Wed 2/18/2009 2:31 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Sliced Steam IDs after yesterdays update What plugin was it, or was it a private plugin? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Arg! chillic...@gmail.com wrote: Ah yes, i found the plugin that was causing this. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Ronny Schedel i...@ronny-schedel.de wrote: I can't confirm this. DODS and TF2 logs seems to be fine, no sliced SteamIDs. Try without any plugins. All, After yesterdays update i noticed i had some people with duplicate entires in psychostats, i had a look at the log files and found entries like this: L 02/18/2009 - 11:42:21: oritsuro4STEAM_0:1:21944 connected, address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: L 02/18/2009 - 11:42:22: oritsuro4STEAM_0:1:21944994 STEAM USERID validated and L 02/18/2009 - 11:50:48: TL. Scratchy6STEAM_0:1:16101 connected, address yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy: L 02/18/2009 - 11:50:48: TL. Scratchy6STEAM_0:1:16101845 STEAM USERID validated Has anyone else noticed something like this where steam id's are being cut off on the connect event but showed in full on the validated event? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] New class splicing exploit
We just banned the same dude from the OP on our servers. Not sure if its a bug or cheat, but I must admit its fairly funny to look at it. He was swiftly banned, however. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You
I can explain that for him. Just like the guy above he cheated in a GoldSrc game (or Red Orchestra) and got banned, but they can still play Source games. It's not officially explained anywhere and everything else about VAC suggests that cheating will cause a ban from all VAC servers but that is not the case. I have no idea why it's like that, but engine based VAC bans is Valves dirty little undocumented secret. Luckily there is now a plugin that fix that problem/bug/feature. http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=80942 There is one for GoldSrc somewere as well. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: Well, this outlines two other points... -People will ban for the most idiotic of reasons :) -VAC ban status isn't always accurate. Much as I don't like to defend a guy like msleeper, it's impossible to say whether that VAC status field is even accurate. Case in point, we have an admin who can't even explain why he has bans on record. But there it is - right there on his steam page. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969001376 We've known the guy for years, as he was with us from the old Railbait.com days. Certainly not the cheating type (but hey - you think you know a guy...) That said - these bans on record don't hinder him in any way. He can play on any VAC secure server with every game he owns. He has no idea how he got VAC banned, nor does this status impede him anywhere. He's attempted to contact support, but they ignore his mails just like they say they will. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nephyrin Zey Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:27 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Scanning 115 friends of id/msleeper for vacBanned status... http://steamcommunity.com/id/LittleDogX lolz - Neph On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Frankly, I ban based on a guilty until proven innocent standard. If you cheat in one game, you are likely to cheat in another. Once a cheater always a cheater. I could go on and on with cliches, but the bottom line is that I don't care if someone innocent was accidentally in one of these groups or accidentally friends with one of these people. People should know better, and being lenient is what lets these people thrive. Also, I didn't say I was going to ban Karl's spammy group. I said I banned him because he decided to be on the friends list of a hacker that got posted here. His group is huge because he - self admittedly - has some spambot that gets friend IDs from the other groups out there and spams invites to them. His group is artificially huge, but that is a different subject altogether. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 11:40 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Banning TrashedGamers is not a very good idea, the group is huge and if there are many troublemakers in that group there is still going to be at least 50,000 players banned that is not a problem. Oh, and btw. Group banning is no different than banning for being named myg0t or similar. But I would be careful with friends banning, I have used it with a few of the most active cheaters that are admins in many groups or members in many groups and have friends that are too when picking a few at random. But I believe there is a higher risk that someone innocent gets banned when banning friends. It could be someone that just wanted to talk to the person for some reason or the subject sent a friend invite and the victim accepted without thinking something bad would come out of it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 3:50 AM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: We've accumulated a few bans over at TrashedGamers as well... while I don't necessarily agree with msleeper on everything, I'm totally with him on this... -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:38 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You Up to 1530 with these groups, thanks for reporting them. A question on a few of them though that I did not add: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/dasdwasdwa Aside from having what some people (read: pansies) would consider an offensive group image, I don't see anything blatantly yelling hacks to me for them. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rolexfailshardlol Same here, aside from some dumb kid as a group image, I don't see anything in particularly wrong with this group. Are these groups owned by owners of other groups? Or something of that nature? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 02:37 +0100, Donnie Newlove wrote: Having updated SourceBans to the latest version I wonder what I would ever need to ban groups from the web
[hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
An optional update to Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed loadout exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Speedy fix! Thanks guys. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:13 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: An optional update to Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed loadout exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
I demand mandatory updates! *runs and hides*. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Speedy fix! Thanks guys. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:13 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: An optional update to Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed loadout exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Are you insane? Sorry, someone had to do it. -mauirixxx -- Sent from my virtual fingers -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available I demand mandatory updates! *runs and hides*. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Speedy fix! Thanks guys. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:13 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: An optional update to Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed loadout exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
3rd update in 3 days. Is this a new record? I have never seen valve respond to the community like this, THANKYOU! No more waiting weeks for exploit fixes :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rick Payton Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:50 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Are you insane? Sorry, someone had to do it. -mauirixxx -- Sent from my virtual fingers -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available I demand mandatory updates! *runs and hides*. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Speedy fix! Thanks guys. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:13 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: An optional update to Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed loadout exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
After all these updates, did valve fix or break more things total? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:03 PM, SmOoThEm ad...@righttorule.com wrote: 3rd update in 3 days. Is this a new record? I have never seen valve respond to the community like this, THANKYOU! No more waiting weeks for exploit fixes :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rick Payton Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:50 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Are you insane? Sorry, someone had to do it. -mauirixxx -- Sent from my virtual fingers -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available I demand mandatory updates! *runs and hides*. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Speedy fix! Thanks guys. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:13 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: An optional update to Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed loadout exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Fixed the things they broke -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Gottlieb Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:08 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available After all these updates, did valve fix or break more things total? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:03 PM, SmOoThEm ad...@righttorule.com wrote: 3rd update in 3 days. Is this a new record? I have never seen valve respond to the community like this, THANKYOU! No more waiting weeks for exploit fixes :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rick Payton Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:50 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Are you insane? Sorry, someone had to do it. -mauirixxx -- Sent from my virtual fingers -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available I demand mandatory updates! *runs and hides*. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Speedy fix! Thanks guys. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:13 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: An optional update to Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed loadout exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] TF2 Blog Post
It saddens me that despite my best efforts to instruct and better you, some of you insist on finding new ways to fail. We have sounded the alert and released a quick fix for an exploit that some unscrupulous players were using to wield items on invalid classes. I have considered an appropriate punishment for the good-for-nothings responsible for this horrendous breach of conduct. Death, of course - but death is too good for disappointments such as these. Instead, their unlockable items have been removed for a month. To the majority of you who did not see fit to cheat, you have my congratulations: I await the countless other ways you will inevitably disappoint me in the future. Yours, TF Announcer ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
Ditto ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
Aye, sound file or it doesn't exist! :D -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Clyde cide Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:46 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Ditto ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
Thirding this On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Clyde cide thedrunkenbraw...@gmail.comwrote: Ditto ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Neil Voutt http://www.neilvoutt.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
No scout update for a few :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SmOoThEm Sent: Thursday, 19 February 2009 1:06 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:50 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. God you're mean I 3 you Chris. You can have msleeper's +v - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
(the only difference is Neph is respected) :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
He needs to wait the 2 weeks or beat me in a battle of wits like rixx! On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:51 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:50 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. God you're mean I 3 you Chris. You can have msleeper's +v - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
Make me setup my BNC again... msleeper wrote: It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
the irc channel is worth popping into, if only to see the number of different ways sleeper can redefine stupidity and ineptitude. On 19/02/2009, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: (the only difference is Neph is respected) :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
Approving today, but who knows what tomorrow holds, am i rite? http://www.mail-archive.com/hlds@list.valvesoftware.com/msg33554.html On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:03 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: 3rd update in 3 days. Is this a new record? I have never seen valve respond to the community like this, THANKYOU! No more waiting weeks for exploit fixes :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rick Payton Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:50 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available Are you insane? Sorry, someone had to do it. -mauirixxx -- Sent from my virtual fingers -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available I demand mandatory updates! *runs and hides*. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Speedy fix! Thanks guys. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:13 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: An optional update to Team Fortress 2 is now available. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive it. The specific changes include: - Fixed loadout exploit Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
He's the one reason I don't go to the irc channel. If I want to visit 4chan, I'll go there. Just a matter of time before enough people complain and he's banned. Then i'll come back (along with people like Chris O. and others.) Disclaimer: msleeper and I have this little immature grudge match going (and I fully admit it's an immature grudge match - one i've even tried to end but to no avail.) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Shelley Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post the irc channel is worth popping into, if only to see the number of different ways sleeper can redefine stupidity and ineptitude. On 19/02/2009, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: (the only difference is Neph is respected) :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
Actually I thought the reason you left is because you couldn't take a joke, and Neph didn't take you seriously when you whimpered to him in private? Anyone is of course welcome to join the chan, but I will ridicule stupidity there like I do here, and anywhere else I go online and off. So if we could adjourn this fanclub meeting, next week we discuss bipolar posting habits on the mailing list. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 22:16 -0500, Karl Weckstrom wrote: He's the one reason I don't go to the irc channel. If I want to visit 4chan, I'll go there. Just a matter of time before enough people complain and he's banned. Then i'll come back (along with people like Chris O. and others.) Disclaimer: msleeper and I have this little immature grudge match going (and I fully admit it's an immature grudge match - one i've even tried to end but to no avail.) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Shelley Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post the irc channel is worth popping into, if only to see the number of different ways sleeper can redefine stupidity and ineptitude. On 19/02/2009, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: (the only difference is Neph is respected) :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Crash in Dedicated Server / Mod
I'm seeing a crash in a Source Dedicated server mod (Windows only) for the mod of Dystopia. I'm getting MDMPs from it, if those are any help or not -- one of the devs (??) thinks it might be a bug in the Source SDK.. Is there anyone who could point me in a way to get some better help, or how to diagnose whether or not it really is??? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
i cant make it next week, i'll be waxing an owl. On 19/02/2009, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Actually I thought the reason you left is because you couldn't take a joke, and Neph didn't take you seriously when you whimpered to him in private? Anyone is of course welcome to join the chan, but I will ridicule stupidity there like I do here, and anywhere else I go online and off. So if we could adjourn this fanclub meeting, next week we discuss bipolar posting habits on the mailing list. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 22:16 -0500, Karl Weckstrom wrote: He's the one reason I don't go to the irc channel. If I want to visit 4chan, I'll go there. Just a matter of time before enough people complain and he's banned. Then i'll come back (along with people like Chris O. and others.) Disclaimer: msleeper and I have this little immature grudge match going (and I fully admit it's an immature grudge match - one i've even tried to end but to no avail.) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Shelley Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post the irc channel is worth popping into, if only to see the number of different ways sleeper can redefine stupidity and ineptitude. On 19/02/2009, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: (the only difference is Neph is respected) :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or
Re: [hlds] Crash in Dedicated Server / Mod
Have you reported it to the mod team? On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:30 -0600, Rob Poe wrote: I'm seeing a crash in a Source Dedicated server mod (Windows only) for the mod of Dystopia. I'm getting MDMPs from it, if those are any help or not -- one of the devs (??) thinks it might be a bug in the Source SDK.. Is there anyone who could point me in a way to get some better help, or how to diagnose whether or not it really is??? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post
Well, msleeper - you don't know me, and I don't know you. But you wrote me off early on when I complained about the map timeout bug. In fact - what were your first words when you joined the #HLServerAdmins channel? Do you remember? :) You complained about my complaining, and my complaining certainly wasn't stupidity. It was displeasure over a serious bug. We might not have seen eye to eye, but what were you trying to prove? That it WASN'T a serious bug? Or that it wasn't worth complaining about? And then you attacked all others who felt the same as I did... Why? It made no sense. I've even come to your defense with some of your opinions. Hey, if I feel the same way, I feel the same way. Your response? Attack me. Even if I agree with you. Again, it doesn't make sense. I'm all for burying the hatchet with you - but *damn* man, at least have some objectivity. If you're going to just judge everyone as guilty until proven innocent and not reward stupidity by injecting ridicule, then you aren't part of the solution. You're part of the problem. I'm sure in real life you're a decent dude with a 9-5 like everyone else (or whatever shift you work). Don't use the internet as your dumping ground. I know you don't behave like this with people in real life, because anyone who can afford to do so doesn't need to work for a living :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:25 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Actually I thought the reason you left is because you couldn't take a joke, and Neph didn't take you seriously when you whimpered to him in private? Anyone is of course welcome to join the chan, but I will ridicule stupidity there like I do here, and anywhere else I go online and off. So if we could adjourn this fanclub meeting, next week we discuss bipolar posting habits on the mailing list. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 22:16 -0500, Karl Weckstrom wrote: He's the one reason I don't go to the irc channel. If I want to visit 4chan, I'll go there. Just a matter of time before enough people complain and he's banned. Then i'll come back (along with people like Chris O. and others.) Disclaimer: msleeper and I have this little immature grudge match going (and I fully admit it's an immature grudge match - one i've even tried to end but to no avail.) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Shelley Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post the irc channel is worth popping into, if only to see the number of different ways sleeper can redefine stupidity and ineptitude. On 19/02/2009, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: (the only difference is Neph is respected) :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people
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damn ladies, why not email each other.. wtf From: Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:36:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Well, msleeper - you don't know me, and I don't know you. But you wrote me off early on when I complained about the map timeout bug. In fact - what were your first words when you joined the #HLServerAdmins channel? Do you remember? :) You complained about my complaining, and my complaining certainly wasn't stupidity. It was displeasure over a serious bug. We might not have seen eye to eye, but what were you trying to prove? That it WASN'T a serious bug? Or that it wasn't worth complaining about? And then you attacked all others who felt the same as I did... Why? It made no sense. I've even come to your defense with some of your opinions. Hey, if I feel the same way, I feel the same way. Your response? Attack me. Even if I agree with you. Again, it doesn't make sense. I'm all for burying the hatchet with you - but *damn* man, at least have some objectivity. If you're going to just judge everyone as guilty until proven innocent and not reward stupidity by injecting ridicule, then you aren't part of the solution. You're part of the problem. I'm sure in real life you're a decent dude with a 9-5 like everyone else (or whatever shift you work). Don't use the internet as your dumping ground. I know you don't behave like this with people in real life, because anyone who can afford to do so doesn't need to work for a living :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:25 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Actually I thought the reason you left is because you couldn't take a joke, and Neph didn't take you seriously when you whimpered to him in private? Anyone is of course welcome to join the chan, but I will ridicule stupidity there like I do here, and anywhere else I go online and off. So if we could adjourn this fanclub meeting, next week we discuss bipolar posting habits on the mailing list. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 22:16 -0500, Karl Weckstrom wrote: He's the one reason I don't go to the irc channel. If I want to visit 4chan, I'll go there. Just a matter of time before enough people complain and he's banned. Then i'll come back (along with people like Chris O. and others.) Disclaimer: msleeper and I have this little immature grudge match going (and I fully admit it's an immature grudge match - one i've even tried to end but to no avail.) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Shelley Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post the irc channel is worth popping into, if only to see the number of different ways sleeper can redefine stupidity and ineptitude. On 19/02/2009, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: (the only difference is Neph is respected) :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins
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Oh cmon - don't act like you don't love the drama :) It breaks up the monotony :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Robert Whelan Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:49 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post damn ladies, why not email each other.. wtf From: Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:36:38 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Well, msleeper - you don't know me, and I don't know you. But you wrote me off early on when I complained about the map timeout bug. In fact - what were your first words when you joined the #HLServerAdmins channel? Do you remember? :) You complained about my complaining, and my complaining certainly wasn't stupidity. It was displeasure over a serious bug. We might not have seen eye to eye, but what were you trying to prove? That it WASN'T a serious bug? Or that it wasn't worth complaining about? And then you attacked all others who felt the same as I did... Why? It made no sense. I've even come to your defense with some of your opinions. Hey, if I feel the same way, I feel the same way. Your response? Attack me. Even if I agree with you. Again, it doesn't make sense. I'm all for burying the hatchet with you - but *damn* man, at least have some objectivity. If you're going to just judge everyone as guilty until proven innocent and not reward stupidity by injecting ridicule, then you aren't part of the solution. You're part of the problem. I'm sure in real life you're a decent dude with a 9-5 like everyone else (or whatever shift you work). Don't use the internet as your dumping ground. I know you don't behave like this with people in real life, because anyone who can afford to do so doesn't need to work for a living :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:25 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Actually I thought the reason you left is because you couldn't take a joke, and Neph didn't take you seriously when you whimpered to him in private? Anyone is of course welcome to join the chan, but I will ridicule stupidity there like I do here, and anywhere else I go online and off. So if we could adjourn this fanclub meeting, next week we discuss bipolar posting habits on the mailing list. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 22:16 -0500, Karl Weckstrom wrote: He's the one reason I don't go to the irc channel. If I want to visit 4chan, I'll go there. Just a matter of time before enough people complain and he's banned. Then i'll come back (along with people like Chris O. and others.) Disclaimer: msleeper and I have this little immature grudge match going (and I fully admit it's an immature grudge match - one i've even tried to end but to no avail.) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Shelley Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:06 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post the irc channel is worth popping into, if only to see the number of different ways sleeper can redefine stupidity and ineptitude. On 19/02/2009, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: (the only difference is Neph is respected) :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we
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I second that. Some people, like you know who, are simply not nice people. He probably would treat his mother the same way. I sincerely hope he's not a parent. Pay attention maybe. My gosh, is this mailing list meant to help people, in a nice, unselfish way, or meant to be a public place where one member can constantly spout his perfection over another member? I'd much prefer the former. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nephyrin Zey Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:50 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. God you're mean I 3 you Chris. You can have msleeper's +v - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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We only have about 3 threads for this. But it's OK! Blame it on the delay in email travel time. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM, molaugh...@gmail.com wrote: It saddens me that despite my best efforts to instruct and better you, some of you insist on finding new ways to fail. We have sounded the alert and released a quick fix for an exploit that some unscrupulous players were using to wield items on invalid classes. I have considered an appropriate punishment for the good-for-nothings responsible for this horrendous breach of conduct. Death, of course - but death is too good for disappointments such as these. Instead, their unlockable items have been removed for a month. To the majority of you who did not see fit to cheat, you have my congratulations: I await the countless other ways you will inevitably disappoint me in the future. Yours, TF Announcer ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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No ones said how the blog is loading slowly and incorrectly yet :P ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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perfection? lol! he hasn't provided one single solution to any problem raised on this list! he's about as much use as a dead dog. i just wish his grandmother had been sterilized. On 19/02/2009, Michael R. Matheson d...@ourhumbleabode.com wrote: I second that. Some people, like you know who, are simply not nice people. He probably would treat his mother the same way. I sincerely hope he's not a parent. Pay attention maybe. My gosh, is this mailing list meant to help people, in a nice, unselfish way, or meant to be a public place where one member can constantly spout his perfection over another member? I'd much prefer the former. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nephyrin Zey Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:50 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. God you're mean I 3 you Chris. You can have msleeper's +v - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Sent from my mobile device ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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they way ur responding to him shows how mature _you_ are, sir. perfection? lol! he hasn't provided one single solution to any problem raised on this list! he's about as much use as a dead dog. i just wish his grandmother had been sterilized. On 19/02/2009, Michael R. Matheson d...@ourhumbleabode.com wrote: I second that. Some people, like you know who, are simply not nice people. He probably would treat his mother the same way. I sincerely hope he's not a parent. Pay attention maybe. My gosh, is this mailing list meant to help people, in a nice, unselfish way, or meant to be a public place where one member can constantly spout his perfection over another member? I'd much prefer the former. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nephyrin Zey Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:50 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. God you're mean I 3 you Chris. You can have msleeper's +v - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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and to think we needed forums! This is much more entertaining lol. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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maxi, i dont know you dude, but when you've been on the recieving end of his charm and witnessed the un necessary rudeness of this tosser you might see it slightly differently. On 19/02/2009, DontWannaName! ad...@topnotchclan.com wrote: and to think we needed forums! This is much more entertaining lol. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Sent from my mobile device ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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How is he not knowing the answer to a question stupidity? ..Not like you can find a search button that's easily accessible like forums (which we honestly should all move to) Maybe he joined the list after it was originally posted? Maybe he missed it because it was in a thread not of his interest? The only stupidity I see are replies coming from msleeper. Why should you be nice though? Isn't this mailing list here to HELP people with QUESTIONS and not take immature jabs at them? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Yeah Neph has made at least 2 specific threads about it in the past couple of months, and I know he and I both have mentioned it at least twice each since the announcement about the list going away. And sorry Chris but I don't reward stupidity. If you can't be bothered to read and absorb then why should I - or anyone - be bothered to be nice and welcoming. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:36 -1000, Rick Payton wrote: Wasn't it mentioned specifically at one point ? --mauirixxx o: - Sent from my fingertips - :o -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chris Oryschak Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:43 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post You are so welcoming here sleeper, Mentioned 6x randomly in the middle of threads != lots amongst the daily dose of e-mails we get here. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:20 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post It gets posted a lot. Pay attention maybe. #hlserveradmins irc.gamesurge.net On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 21:16 -0500, Neil Voutt wrote: theres an irc channel? on what server what channel? On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:14 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Nephyrin i wonder how they detected it Nephyrin i know a lot of people were just showing others how to do it in spawn because it was lulz msleeper Nephyrin: i am sure they have all sorts of spy shit in their code Nephyrin sucks if they got owned Cc2iscooL It probably used some kind of exploit in steamcloud which would be logged. Cc2iscooL All they have to do is search for entries that shouldn't match, and voila, you lose your itemz. :| Join IRC, it's rad. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 18:05 -0800, SmOoThEm wrote: Wow, that is priceless. It seems valve gets a little headroom and they flaunt it. I wonder if they will post stats of how many people actually lost their unlocks for a month. As I'm typing this I'm wondering how valve knew if someone performed the exploit or not, given it was performed on private servers. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:44 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] TF2 Announcer Blog Post Seconding this. On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:38 -0800, Nephyrin Zey wrote: http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2262 I *require* a recording of the actual announcer reading that post out loud. - Neph ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
