Re: Hello all,

[Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM]

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> Hello all,

>  

> I'm missing a load module from a loadlib.

>  

> I found it in another loadlib and I'd like to know if there would be
any sort of issues just copying to the target loadlib I need?

>  

> I thought in some where in the past some told me there could be an
issue but right not I can't remember what it might be.

>  

> Thanks

>  

The only issue I can think of, is that you should not forget to copy its
aliasses too.

Kees.
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Re: how to write sysrexx

[Scott Ford]

Tommy,

OUTPUTVAR.0 is the total lines returned back from the $DI that was issued to
JES2

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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:46 PM
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Subject: Re: how to write sysrexx

the output here:
how come the outputvar.0 is 4.

AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 562
EXECNAME=INITINFO REQTOKEN=4000C342864620BCAB4E
4

ACTIVE


ACTIVE   INIT=0
INACTIVE INIT=0
DRAINed INIT=0

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Scott Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tommy,
>
> What does the output from the sysrexx look like ? It would help for us to
> see it ...
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> Hi,
> I try to count the current init status but failed with the AXRCMD.?
> anything wrong?
>
> CMDRESULT=AXRCMD('/DI','OUTPUTVAR.',100);
>  SAY OUTPUTVAR.0
>  c = 0
>  do c = 1 to  OUTPUTVAR.0
>status  = substr(word(OUTPUTVAR.c,3),8,6)
>say  status
>active=0
>drained=0
>inactive=0
>if status = 'ACTIVE' then
> active = active + 1
>else if status = 'DRAINE' then
> drained = drained + 1
>else if status = 'INACTI' then
> inactive = inactive + 1
>  end;
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks, after I delcare active=0, it works fine
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Scott Fagen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:32:56 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >hi all
> >> >
> >> >Is there any book teach how to write a correct SYSREXX, how comes a
bad
> >> >arithmetic conversion with "active = active + 1".any problem
> here???
> >> >
> >> > RESPONSE=XXTSPD2
> >> >  AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 530
> >> >  EXECNAME=INITINFO REQTOKEN=4000C34272CC59FE94C9
> >> >
> >> >  ACTIVE
> >> >   6 +++   active = active + 1
> >> >  IRX0041I Error running INITINFO, line 6: Bad arithmetic conversion
> >>
> >> Maybe the variable 'active' isn't set to a number?
> >>
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Re: how to write sysrexx

[Scott Ford]

Tommy,

Here is one I wrote and its output

/* rexx*/
rc = AXRCMD('D U,,,0A80,10','OUTVAR.',100)
if rc = 0 then do;
  say 'AXRCMD worked'
end;
say 'Queued lines: 'OUTVAR.0
do i=1 to OUTVAR.0
   parse var OUTVAR.i wd1 wd2 wd3 wd4 wd5 wd6
   if substr(wd1,1,3) = 'IEE' then iterate
   if substr(wd1,1,4) = 'UNIT' then iterate
   SAY 'UNIT='WD1' VOL=SER='WD4
end;


0090  AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 848
0090  EXECNAME=SYSRDI REQTOKEN=4000C34234A549DE8800
0090  AXRCMD worked
0090  Queued lines: 12
0090  UNIT=0A80 VOL=SER=Z9RES1
0090  UNIT=0A81 VOL=SER=Z9RES2
0090  UNIT=0A82 VOL=SER=Z9SYS1
0090  UNIT=0A83 VOL=SER=Z9RES3
0090  UNIT=0A84 VOL=SER=Z9USS1
0090  UNIT=0A85 VOL=SER=Z9PRD1
0090  UNIT=0A86 VOL=SER=Z9DIS1
0090  UNIT=0A87 VOL=SER=Z9DIS2
0090  UNIT=0A88 VOL=SER=Z9DIS3
0090  UNIT=0A89 VOL=SER=Z9DIS4

The sysrexx you included should have the first line as
   CMDRESULT = AXRCMD('$DI,'OUTPUTVAR.',100)

I tried this also but it only return one message line, It has to do with the
way the messages are returned ...I think. Hope this helps you out ..

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Hi,
I try to count the current init status but failed with the AXRCMD.?
anything wrong?

CMDRESULT=AXRCMD('/DI','OUTPUTVAR.',100);
 SAY OUTPUTVAR.0
 c = 0
 do c = 1 to  OUTPUTVAR.0
status  = substr(word(OUTPUTVAR.c,3),8,6)
say  status
active=0
drained=0
inactive=0
if status = 'ACTIVE' then
 active = active + 1
else if status = 'DRAINE' then
 drained = drained + 1
else if status = 'INACTI' then
 inactive = inactive + 1
 end;

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Thanks, after I delcare active=0, it works fine
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Scott Fagen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:32:56 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >hi all
>> >
>> >Is there any book teach how to write a correct SYSREXX, how comes a bad
>> >arithmetic conversion with "active = active + 1".any problem here???
>> >
>> > RESPONSE=XXTSPD2
>> >  AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 530
>> >  EXECNAME=INITINFO REQTOKEN=4000C34272CC59FE94C9
>> >
>> >  ACTIVE
>> >   6 +++   active = active + 1
>> >  IRX0041I Error running INITINFO, line 6: Bad arithmetic conversion
>>
>> Maybe the variable 'active' isn't set to a number?
>>
>> Scott Fagen
>> Enterprise Systems Management
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Re: how to write sysrexx

[Gerhard Postpischil]

Tommy Tsui wrote:

I try to count the current init status but failed with the AXRCMD.?
anything wrong?

CMDRESULT=AXRCMD('/DI','OUTPUTVAR.',100);


It could be any number of things. First of all, AXRCMD is not a 
REXX function, so you need to tell it where to find it. You may 
need to define it to REXX as a subroutine, or possibly with an 
ADDRESS command to define the environment. Check the 
documentation where you found the AXRCMD information. 
Additionally, the code must be addressable, so you may need to 
define additional libraries of the appropriate type to allow the 
system to find the code.


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Re: how to write sysrexx

[Tommy Tsui]

the output here:
how come the outputvar.0 is 4.

AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 562
EXECNAME=INITINFO REQTOKEN=4000C342864620BCAB4E
4

ACTIVE


ACTIVE   INIT=0
INACTIVE INIT=0
DRAINed INIT=0

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Scott Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tommy,
>
> What does the output from the sysrexx look like ? It would help for us to
> see it ...
>
>
> Scott Ford
> Senior Systems Engineer
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> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: how to write sysrexx
>
> Hi,
> I try to count the current init status but failed with the AXRCMD.?
> anything wrong?
>
> CMDRESULT=AXRCMD('/DI','OUTPUTVAR.',100);
>  SAY OUTPUTVAR.0
>  c = 0
>  do c = 1 to  OUTPUTVAR.0
>status  = substr(word(OUTPUTVAR.c,3),8,6)
>say  status
>active=0
>drained=0
>inactive=0
>if status = 'ACTIVE' then
> active = active + 1
>else if status = 'DRAINE' then
> drained = drained + 1
>else if status = 'INACTI' then
> inactive = inactive + 1
>  end;
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks, after I delcare active=0, it works fine
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Scott Fagen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:32:56 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >hi all
> >> >
> >> >Is there any book teach how to write a correct SYSREXX, how comes a bad
> >> >arithmetic conversion with "active = active + 1".any problem
> here???
> >> >
> >> > RESPONSE=XXTSPD2
> >> >  AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 530
> >> >  EXECNAME=INITINFO REQTOKEN=4000C34272CC59FE94C9
> >> >
> >> >  ACTIVE
> >> >   6 +++   active = active + 1
> >> >  IRX0041I Error running INITINFO, line 6: Bad arithmetic conversion
> >>
> >> Maybe the variable 'active' isn't set to a number?
> >>
> >> Scott Fagen
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Re: Query: Mainframers look forward and back

[Gabe Goldberg]

Anton Britz asked some questions --

Do you read the two current independent mainframe magazines z/Journal 
and Mainframe Executive? I've written dozens of articles for for them 
and their predecessors (4300 Quarterly, Mainframe Journal, Enterprise 
Systems Journal, etc.) for 20+ years. I wrote/edited an IBM technology 
magazine for several years, wrote for AARP's Computers and Technology 
Web site for several years, have had more than a hundred technology 
pieces published in the Washington Post, co-edited three fat and 
successful (700+ pages each) McGraw-Hill books (The Rexx Handbook, The 
VM/ESA Systems Handbook, The VM/ESA Users and Applications Handbook).


Before all that I worked at IBM designing/developing operating system 
software, then worked in a high-tech data center, then was VP of a small 
mainframe software company (VM Systems Group). I've been a freelance 
technology writer/editor/consultant since 1991. I'm a former SHARE 
project manager. I was designated a Knight of VM at SHARE 59 in 1982, at 
least somewhat for my work opposing introduction of OCO. This year is my 
40th in the mainframe world, or a little more counting mainframe use in 
college.


I posted the query to IBM-MAIN and the VM and VSE equivalents, plus the 
HillGang (Washington, DC VM/Linux user group) list. My articles are 
indeed based on research and queries like this one -- that's how to make 
them fact based rather than the airline magazine articles I think you 
mean. Responses to these queries -- especially from this list -- are 
great; many people generously provide insights, anecdotes, experience, 
and opinions. That's why I start research here -- because it's the 
largest real-world mainframers community. I'm a professional freelance 
writer so I'm paid for my work.


Regarding my writing for CA: they approached me and suggested I write 
about mainframes and mainframers for them. Since I've worked with 
mainframes for a while and am a writer, I thought that a fine idea.While 
their long-term background motivation is likely sales (same as IBM or 
any for-profit corporation), these articles will support the mainframe 
community by providing useful/interesting/valuable/informative material.


Thanks for asking...

Steve,

You have been around to block, so lets try and ask more questions before we
get into a debate about 1944 or 1945 ex.

a) What is Mr. Goldberg trying to achieve ., Sales for CA or 
sensation/hysteria

b) What lists are you cross posting too
c) How much money are you getting for the information we will provide you
d) How long have you been in the Mainframe World and how long have you
tried to make a buck, writing "Airport" type articles
e) How many times have you tried to do surveys on public lists and do you
feel , this works for you
f) How many articles have you written, based on the feedback you get on
open lists and "open sources"

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Re: how to write sysrexx

[Scott Ford]

Tommy,

What does the output from the sysrexx look like ? It would help for us to
see it ...


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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 11:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: how to write sysrexx

Hi,
I try to count the current init status but failed with the AXRCMD.?
anything wrong?

CMDRESULT=AXRCMD('/DI','OUTPUTVAR.',100);
 SAY OUTPUTVAR.0
 c = 0
 do c = 1 to  OUTPUTVAR.0
status  = substr(word(OUTPUTVAR.c,3),8,6)
say  status
active=0
drained=0
inactive=0
if status = 'ACTIVE' then
 active = active + 1
else if status = 'DRAINE' then
 drained = drained + 1
else if status = 'INACTI' then
 inactive = inactive + 1
 end;

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Thanks, after I delcare active=0, it works fine
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Scott Fagen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:32:56 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >hi all
>> >
>> >Is there any book teach how to write a correct SYSREXX, how comes a bad
>> >arithmetic conversion with "active = active + 1".any problem here???
>> >
>> > RESPONSE=XXTSPD2
>> >  AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 530
>> >  EXECNAME=INITINFO REQTOKEN=4000C34272CC59FE94C9
>> >
>> >  ACTIVE
>> >   6 +++   active = active + 1
>> >  IRX0041I Error running INITINFO, line 6: Bad arithmetic conversion
>>
>> Maybe the variable 'active' isn't set to a number?
>>
>> Scott Fagen
>> Enterprise Systems Management
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Re: how to write sysrexx

[Tommy Tsui]

Hi,
I try to count the current init status but failed with the AXRCMD.?
anything wrong?

CMDRESULT=AXRCMD('/DI','OUTPUTVAR.',100);
 SAY OUTPUTVAR.0
 c = 0
 do c = 1 to  OUTPUTVAR.0
status  = substr(word(OUTPUTVAR.c,3),8,6)
say  status
active=0
drained=0
inactive=0
if status = 'ACTIVE' then
 active = active + 1
else if status = 'DRAINE' then
 drained = drained + 1
else if status = 'INACTI' then
 inactive = inactive + 1
 end;

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Thanks, after I delcare active=0, it works fine
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Scott Fagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:32:56 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >hi all
>> >
>> >Is there any book teach how to write a correct SYSREXX, how comes a bad
>> >arithmetic conversion with "active = active + 1".any problem here???
>> >
>> > RESPONSE=XXTSPD2
>> >  AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 530
>> >  EXECNAME=INITINFO REQTOKEN=4000C34272CC59FE94C9
>> >
>> >  ACTIVE
>> >   6 +++   active = active + 1
>> >  IRX0041I Error running INITINFO, line 6: Bad arithmetic conversion
>>
>> Maybe the variable 'active' isn't set to a number?
>>
>> Scott Fagen
>> Enterprise Systems Management
>>
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Re: Hello all,

[Bill Wilkie]

Howard:
 
If the library BLOCKSIZES are the same, a copy would be fine. The condition you 
alluded to was at one time, if you copied to a library whose blksize was 
different, the output library attributes would get changed.  A better technique 
is to do a linkedit and include it from where it is and make syslmod where you 
want it to go.  But if it is a module managed by SMPE, you should just 
concatenate it so maintenance will go where it should or make the necessary 
changes to the SMP libs to reflect the new location. 
 
Bill
 
 
> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:43:04 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Hello 
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> there would be any sort of issues just copying to the target loadlib I need?> 
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Re: Query: Mainframers look forward and back

[Scott Ford]

I am responding to this so called OT because I am once who has  to work.
I am an old timer - born in 1950 and working everything from the DOS/VS,
VM/SP and OS/VS2 days upto z/VM, Z/OS and VSE of course. I enjoying
developing software, but have to work because of circumstances out of my
control ( Wife died at 49 - massive heart attack  in 2003 ), I have to
support a house and two daughters. Would I like to retire, yeah, but what
would I do, IT has been a large piece of my life, 33+ yearsI am also a
second generation IT professional, father before me, 37 yrs with Unisys. But
enough about me, I feel for the guys and gals who have been outsourced,
laidoff,it is terrible, I have been there. I learned longtime ago 'fair',
doesn't exit, more like what is..and what isn't .. I wished that situation
would go away, but if won't, companies are too busy trying to make a buck
and caring about the most valuable thing they have their people. 

BTW -- I was out of work in 2006, all of 2006...it wasn't good for me or my
family so I do understand what happens. It was a contract with the State who
had no budget money for IT. Go figure...

All my best to all...

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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:00:03 -0500, Gabe Goldberg 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I probably should respond off-list, but I'm goig to do it here.

>...
>Do people plan to work as long as they're able? Because of enjoyable
>jobs? From necessity? For other reasons? ...
 
How painfully timely.  

Working as a system programmer has been my hobby since 1972.
It has also been my career of course, and paid well so I have no 
desire to leave the field ... but working at my current job (Washington 
Mutual) for the last 4 1/2 years inspired me to almost start thinking 
about maybe retiring.

Then the bottom fell out of that world and I'm going to be colateral
damage of WaMu's takeover.  I expect to be laid off by the end of 
the year or shortly thereafter.  So I guess I'll retire. 

>Are folks being downsized/outsourced?

For the past 6 months upper management had been working on an 
outsourcing plan.   That was causing a lot of angst.  Now that has 
been rendered immaterial. 

>
>Retiring voluntarily or otherwise? When projects finish or ... certain
>ages are reached? Or companies migrate off the mainframe?  ...

There have been no involuntary retirements in any company I've
worked for.  Lay-offs and even a firing, but no involuntary retirement.

>youngsters are available for lower salaries? ...

Youngsters - at any salary - would have seemed like a miracle!
Lack of replacements has been a definite problem. 

>Regarding "dump the mainframe projects" ...

Not much of a issue with companies I've been at.  I've been lucky!

>Has the skill set required for mainframe work changed during your
>career? How have tools evolved to support skills required?

The particulars have obviously changed but the basic skills - the
basic skills that let us rapidly pick up new specific skills - have not.
Management's willingness to pay for training in new skills has 
definitely gone down.

>What are boomer mainframers doing in retirement? ...

Becoming crotchetty old ex-mainframers, I guess.
I'll let you know when I figure it out.  :-)

>With decades of experience and perspective -- and considering
>contradictory trends of organizations migrating to other platforms AND
>the general resurgence of the mainframe -- what recommendations 
>are  offered for the mainframe's future? ...

I have no suggestions.  I'm trying not to care any more.  :-)

>Are younger-generation mainframe staffers joining your companies? 
No.

>Have you worked for younger bosses/managers? What's that been 
>like? Are there challenges communicating mainframe benefits, 
>mindset, practices to them?

I think you need to reword the first part of that question.
Younger?  Of course.  I'm 62.  Nearly everybody is younger ... but
not young.  My immediate bosses have all been mainframers.  But
go up a level and the mindset and practices issue has definitely 
been a problem.  And it has not necessarily been tied to age.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: how to write sysrexx

[Tommy Tsui]

Thanks, after I delcare active=0, it works fine


On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Scott Fagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:32:56 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >hi all
> >
> >Is there any book teach how to write a correct SYSREXX, how comes a bad
> >arithmetic conversion with "active = active + 1".any problem here???
> >
> > RESPONSE=XXTSPD2
> >  AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 530
> >  EXECNAME=INITINFO REQTOKEN=4000C34272CC59FE94C9
> >
> >  ACTIVE
> >   6 +++   active = active + 1
> >  IRX0041I Error running INITINFO, line 6: Bad arithmetic conversion
>
> Maybe the variable 'active' isn't set to a number?
>
> Scott Fagen
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Re: how to write sysrexx

[Scott Fagen]

On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:32:56 +0800, Tommy Tsui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>hi all
>
>Is there any book teach how to write a correct SYSREXX, how comes a bad
>arithmetic conversion with "active = active + 1".any problem here???
>
> RESPONSE=XXTSPD2
>  AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 530
>  EXECNAME=INITINFO REQTOKEN=4000C34272CC59FE94C9
>
>  ACTIVE
>   6 +++   active = active + 1
>  IRX0041I Error running INITINFO, line 6: Bad arithmetic conversion

Maybe the variable 'active' isn't set to a number?

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how to write sysrexx

[Tommy Tsui]

hi all

Is there any book teach how to write a correct SYSREXX, how comes a bad
arithmetic conversion with "active = active + 1".any problem here???

 RESPONSE=XXTSPD2
  AXR0500I AXREXX OUTPUT DISPLAY 530
  EXECNAME=INITINFO REQTOKEN=4000C34272CC59FE94C9

  ACTIVE
   6 +++   active = active + 1
  IRX0041I Error running INITINFO, line 6: Bad arithmetic conversion



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Re: Query: Mainframers look forward and back

[Tony Harminc]

On 2008-11-06 Anton Britz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> a) What is Mr. Goldberg trying to achieve ., Sales for CA or 
> sensation/hysteria
> b) What lists are you cross posting too
> c) How much money are you getting for the information we will provide you
> d) How long have you been in the Mainframe World and how long have you
> tried to make a buck, writing "Airport" type articles
> e) How many times have you tried to do surveys on public lists and do you
> feel , this works for you
> f) How many articles have you written, based on the feedback you get on
> open lists and "open sources"
>
> Note: Lets act our age, in handling these issues, I think..

Indeed. Gabe Goldberg is a highly reputable technical person who was
in the mainframe business for decades, has worked at IBM and other
major mainframe using organizations, was involved with SHARE for many
years, and has written many technical and survey articles and
contributed to at least a couple of textbooks. I imagine he's getting
some pocket money for writing an article, but I am quite sure it won't
be sensational or hysterical, and that he is not collecting this
information for any nefarious purposes.

Tony H.

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Missing load module (Was: Re: Hello all)

[Patrick O'Keefe]

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:43:04 -0500, Howard Rifkind 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

You definitely need to come up with better subject lines.

>...
>I'm missing a load module from a loadlib.
> 
>I found it in another loadlib and I'd like to know if there would be 
>any sort of issues just copying to the target loadlib I need?
 
More information would be helpful.
Is the library where you expected to find it an SMP-controlled 
library?  If so, you should find out why it was missing.  In my
book, it's a no-no to copy into an SMP-controlled library.

Is the library that is missing the module a vendor-provided library?
If so, you are likely to find yourself with the same problem after your
next upgrade if it involves a new loadlib.

Is there some reason you can't just STEPLIB to it?
Having the same module in 2 libraries almost guarantees they 
will eventually no longer be the same.  Are these libraries supposed
to be clones of each other? If so, you should correct your cloning 
process.

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Hello all,

[Howard Rifkind]

Hello all,
 
I'm missing a load module from a loadlib.
 
I found it in another loadlib and I'd like to know if there would be any sort 
of issues just copying to the target loadlib I need?
 
I thought in some where in the past some told me there could be an issue but 
right not I can't remember what it might be.
 
Thanks
 
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Re: Query: Mainframers look forward and back

[Patrick O'Keefe]

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:00:03 -0500, Gabe Goldberg 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I probably should respond off-list, but I'm goig to do it here.

>...
>Do people plan to work as long as they're able? Because of enjoyable
>jobs? From necessity? For other reasons? ...
 
How painfully timely.  

Working as a system programmer has been my hobby since 1972.
It has also been my career of course, and paid well so I have no 
desire to leave the field ... but working at my current job (Washington 
Mutual) for the last 4 1/2 years inspired me to almost start thinking 
about maybe retiring.

Then the bottom fell out of that world and I'm going to be colateral
damage of WaMu's takeover.  I expect to be laid off by the end of 
the year or shortly thereafter.  So I guess I'll retire. 

>Are folks being downsized/outsourced?

For the past 6 months upper management had been working on an 
outsourcing plan.   That was causing a lot of angst.  Now that has 
been rendered immaterial. 

>
>Retiring voluntarily or otherwise? When projects finish or ... certain
>ages are reached? Or companies migrate off the mainframe?  ...

There have been no involuntary retirements in any company I've
worked for.  Lay-offs and even a firing, but no involuntary retirement.

>youngsters are available for lower salaries? ...

Youngsters - at any salary - would have seemed like a miracle!
Lack of replacements has been a definite problem. 

>Regarding "dump the mainframe projects" ...

Not much of a issue with companies I've been at.  I've been lucky!

>Has the skill set required for mainframe work changed during your
>career? How have tools evolved to support skills required?

The particulars have obviously changed but the basic skills - the
basic skills that let us rapidly pick up new specific skills - have not.
Management's willingness to pay for training in new skills has 
definitely gone down.

>What are boomer mainframers doing in retirement? ...

Becoming crotchetty old ex-mainframers, I guess.
I'll let you know when I figure it out.  :-)

>With decades of experience and perspective -- and considering
>contradictory trends of organizations migrating to other platforms AND
>the general resurgence of the mainframe -- what recommendations 
>are  offered for the mainframe's future? ...

I have no suggestions.  I'm trying not to care any more.  :-)

>Are younger-generation mainframe staffers joining your companies? 
No.

>Have you worked for younger bosses/managers? What's that been 
>like? Are there challenges communicating mainframe benefits, 
>mindset, practices to them?

I think you need to reword the first part of that question.
Younger?  Of course.  I'm 62.  Nearly everybody is younger ... but
not young.  My immediate bosses have all been mainframers.  But
go up a level and the mindset and practices issue has definitely 
been a problem.  And it has not necessarily been tied to age.

Pat O'Keefe

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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Carlson, Steven]

What if I do not have any errors, and I am using A MDL to simulate a VTS?

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I run a job that flips off the scratch bit in TMS.
The next run of TMSCLEAN hits the exit and clears the error condition.

//STEP1EXEC PGM=TMSUPDTE,PARM='NODSN'
//TMSRPT   DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
VOL Y36091,NOCHAIN
REP FLAG1=00
VOL Y36177,NOCHAIN
REP FLAG1=00


Jay Campbell
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Lizette Koehler wrote:
> List -
>
> I have been wrestling with this for a couple of weeks.  Thought I had
it fixed but it still shows errors.
>
> When I display my VTS
>
> RESPONSE=SDH8

>  CBR1110I OAM library status: 410

>  TAPE  LIB  DEVICETOT  ONL  AVL  TOTAL  EMPTY SCRTCH  ON OP

>  LIBRARY   TYP  TYPE  DRV  DRV  DRV  SLOTS  SLOTS   VOLS

>  SCSVTS1   VL   3584-L22  128  128  127959413   5514  Y  Y

>
--

>  MEDIA   SCRATCH   SCRATCH   SCRATCH

>  TYPE  COUNT THRESHOLD  CATEGORY

>  MEDIA2 5514  1000  1002

>
--

>  LIBRARY ID: B2764

>  OPERATIONAL STATE:  AUTOMATED

>  ERROR CATEGORY SCRATCH COUNT:  14

>  SCRATCH STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  90

>  PRIVATE STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  84

>
--

>  Bulk input/output not configured.
>
> It shows 14 tapes in the error category Scratch Count.
>
> I went into ISMF and listed all the volumes and find this type of
> entry
>
> 514454 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
> 517590 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>
> I looked in CA1 and cannot figure out how to get these errors removed.
>
> Thoughs?
>
> Lizette
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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Campbell Jay]

I run a job that flips off the scratch bit in TMS.
The next run of TMSCLEAN hits the exit and clears the error condition.

//STEP1EXEC PGM=TMSUPDTE,PARM='NODSN'
//TMSRPT   DD   SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
VOL Y36091,NOCHAIN
REP FLAG1=00
VOL Y36177,NOCHAIN
REP FLAG1=00 


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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:21 PM
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Subject: Re: How to correct tape errors

Lizette Koehler wrote:
> List -
>
> I have been wrestling with this for a couple of weeks.  Thought I had
it fixed but it still shows errors.
>
> When I display my VTS
>
> RESPONSE=SDH8

>  CBR1110I OAM library status: 410

>  TAPE  LIB  DEVICETOT  ONL  AVL  TOTAL  EMPTY SCRTCH  ON OP

>  LIBRARY   TYP  TYPE  DRV  DRV  DRV  SLOTS  SLOTS   VOLS

>  SCSVTS1   VL   3584-L22  128  128  127959413   5514  Y  Y

>
--

>  MEDIA   SCRATCH   SCRATCH   SCRATCH

>  TYPE  COUNT THRESHOLD  CATEGORY

>  MEDIA2 5514  1000  1002

>
--

>  LIBRARY ID: B2764

>  OPERATIONAL STATE:  AUTOMATED

>  ERROR CATEGORY SCRATCH COUNT:  14

>  SCRATCH STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  90

>  PRIVATE STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  84

>
--

>  Bulk input/output not configured. 
>
> It shows 14 tapes in the error category Scratch Count.
>
> I went into ISMF and listed all the volumes and find this type of 
> entry
>
> 514454 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
> 517590 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>
> I looked in CA1 and cannot figure out how to get these errors removed.
>
> Thoughs?
>
> Lizette
>
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Re: Query: Mainframers look forward and back

[Bob Shannon]

Gabe Goldberg has been in the industry for a long time, longer than you or me. 
He has written numerous articles for various publications as well as a book on 
Rexx Programming. He's a long time contributor to this list and dates back to 
the VM Share system that was hosted at McGill University. He's considered a 
pioneer in the VM community. 
 
That's my opinion.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Lizette Koehler]

Doing the ALTER from SCRATCH to SCRATCH seemed to have fixed the problem.

I would not have thought to do that.  Thanks.

Also, I usually go to ISMF 2.3 and list tapes that way.  Then sort on 4 (Volume 
ERROR Status) 

Lizette



>
>I am running z/OS V1.9 at RSU 0808 with CA1 V11.5 SP2.
>
>Lizette

>>
>>Lizette:
>>
>> I have removed the IBM version of the CBRUXENT, brought down OAM, did a LLA 
>> refresh, and the display is still incorrect. What version of CA-1 software 
>> are you running, and what version of Z/OS are you running?
>>
>>This shop is running CA-1 Version 11.5 SP4, and Z/OS 1.9.
>>

>>
>>I will check that out.
>>
>>I know that the one shipped by IBM is in SYS1.LINKLIB at the top of the 
>>linklst and the one for CA1 is in the SYS1.CA1.LINKLIB data set which is 
>>further down.
>>
>>Lizette
>>
>>

>>>
>>>Lizette Koehler wrote:
 List -

 I have been wrestling with this for a couple of weeks.  Thought I had it 
 fixed but it still shows errors.

 When I display my VTS

 RESPONSE=SDH8
  CBR1110I OAM library status: 410
  TAPE  LIB  DEVICETOT  ONL  AVL  TOTAL  EMPTY SCRTCH  ON OP
  LIBRARY   TYP  TYPE  DRV  DRV  DRV  SLOTS  SLOTS   VOLS
  SCSVTS1   VL   3584-L22  128  128  127959413   5514  Y  Y
  --
  MEDIA   SCRATCH   SCRATCH   SCRATCH
  TYPE  COUNT THRESHOLD  CATEGORY
  MEDIA2 5514  1000  1002
  --
  LIBRARY ID: B2764
  OPERATIONAL STATE:  AUTOMATED
  ERROR CATEGORY SCRATCH COUNT:  14
  SCRATCH STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  90
  PRIVATE STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  84
  --
  Bulk input/output not configured.

 It shows 14 tapes in the error category Scratch Count.

 I went into ISMF and listed all the volumes and find this type of entry

 514454 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
 517590 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS

 I looked in CA1 and cannot figure out how to get these errors removed.

 Thoughs?

 Lizette



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Re: Query: Mainframers look forward and back

[John McKown]

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:00:03 -0500, Gabe Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>(Sorry for cross-posting...)
>
>I'm writing an article for CA about baby-boom mainframers (that's me
>too, my first job out of college in 1968 was with IBM in Poughkeepsie)
>about what we're all doing and seeing and facing in our careers.
>
>Do people plan to work as long as they're able? Because of enjoyable
>jobs? From necessity? For other reasons?

Necessity. If I didn't need money, I would not be working. At least, not on
a z. The stress, for me, of the budget reductions, disdain by management for
the z, and the lack of an interesting future make the job a JOB.

>
>Are folks being downsized/outsourced?

Probably. If not now, then in the future. "The z is too expensive" to run.

>
>Retiring voluntarily or otherwise? When projects finish or ... certain
>ages are reached? Or companies migrate off the mainframe? Or youngsters
>are available for lower salaries?

Yes to most all. I would retire voluntarily if I could. The company wants to
migrate off the mainframe. The plan, as of now, is to simply start using new
technologies to replace the mainframe applications over time and let the
mainframe die a slow death.

Youngsters are also available for lower salaries. But many seem to lack some
of the disciplines needed for an Enterprise Level mindset. Many are
"drag'n'drop" programmers who really don't know that much about things such
as algorithms or efficiency. Or multiple languages. Most are VB.NET. Few are
Perl, Python, awk, etc. Almost none are COBOL, or other 3GL.

>
>Regarding "dump the mainframe projects" -- have you stayed with a
>company after migrating to another platform? How has that worked out?
>Have you seen "dump" projects fail or simply continue forever with
>mainframes chugging along productively?
>
>Has the skill set required for mainframe work changed during your
>career? How have tools evolved to support skills required?
>
>What are boomer mainframers doing in retirement? Are you taking new jobs
>and "double dipping"? Becoming consultants? Trainers? Writers? With
>former employers? In locations you've worked or moving?

I don't know. I'd love to have the money to not be forced to work. If that
happens (not likely), then I'd likely do something the FOSS world. Maybe
some programming, but more likely writing doc. It is amazing how few FOSS
systems have really nice doc. Of course, at their love is programming, not doc.

>

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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Lizette Koehler]

I am running z/OS V1.9 at RSU 0808 with CA1 V11.5 SP2.

Lizette

-Original Message-
>From: "Carlson, Steven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Nov 6, 2008 3:46 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: How to correct tape errors
>
>Lizette:
>
> I have removed the IBM version of the CBRUXENT, brought down OAM, did a LLA 
> refresh, and the display is still incorrect. What version of CA-1 software 
> are you running, and what version of Z/OS are you running?
>
>This shop is running CA-1 Version 11.5 SP4, and Z/OS 1.9.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
>Lizette Koehler
>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:13 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: How to correct tape errors
>
>I will check that out.
>
>I know that the one shipped by IBM is in SYS1.LINKLIB at the top of the 
>linklst and the one for CA1 is in the SYS1.CA1.LINKLIB data set which is 
>further down.
>
>Lizette
>
>
>-Original Message-
>>From: Mark Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Nov 6, 2008 2:21 PM
>>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>>Subject: Re: How to correct tape errors
>>
>>Lizette Koehler wrote:
>>> List -
>>>
>>> I have been wrestling with this for a couple of weeks.  Thought I had it 
>>> fixed but it still shows errors.
>>>
>>> When I display my VTS
>>>
>>> RESPONSE=SDH8
>>>  CBR1110I OAM library status: 410
>>>  TAPE  LIB  DEVICETOT  ONL  AVL  TOTAL  EMPTY SCRTCH  ON OP
>>>  LIBRARY   TYP  TYPE  DRV  DRV  DRV  SLOTS  SLOTS   VOLS
>>>  SCSVTS1   VL   3584-L22  128  128  127959413   5514  Y  Y
>>>  --
>>>  MEDIA   SCRATCH   SCRATCH   SCRATCH
>>>  TYPE  COUNT THRESHOLD  CATEGORY
>>>  MEDIA2 5514  1000  1002
>>>  --
>>>  LIBRARY ID: B2764
>>>  OPERATIONAL STATE:  AUTOMATED
>>>  ERROR CATEGORY SCRATCH COUNT:  14
>>>  SCRATCH STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  90
>>>  PRIVATE STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  84
>>>  --
>>>  Bulk input/output not configured.
>>>
>>> It shows 14 tapes in the error category Scratch Count.
>>>
>>> I went into ISMF and listed all the volumes and find this type of entry
>>>
>>> 514454 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>>> 517590 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>>>
>>> I looked in CA1 and cannot figure out how to get these errors removed.
>>>
>>> Thoughs?
>>>
>>> Lizette
>>>
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>>Check your OAM cartridge entry installation exit,  CBRUXENT.
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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Dave Quinton]

ISMF 10.3, LISTVOL against the library, SORT 3 (VOLUME ERROR STATUS) then look
for
"REJ BY TAPE MGMT SYS" - the sort will put them altogether.

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  How would I know which of the 39000+ tapes to change from SCXRATCH to SCRATCH?


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If you want to reset the error status of the tapes, use ISMF and alter the
tapes in question from SCRATCH to SCRATCH.

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Re: Query: Mainframers look forward and back

[Anton Britz]

Steve,

You have been around to block, so lets try and ask more questions before we 
get into a debate about 1944 or 1945 ex.

a) What is Mr. Goldberg trying to achieve ., Sales for CA or sensation/hysteria
b) What lists are you cross posting too 
c) How much money are you getting for the information we will provide you
d) How long have you been in the Mainframe World and how long have you 
tried to make a buck, writing "Airport" type articles
e) How many times have you tried to do surveys on public lists and do you 
feel , this works for you
f) How many articles have you written, based on the feedback you get on 
open lists and "open sources"

Note: Lets act our age, in handling these issues, I think..

Anton 

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:05:52 -0700, Steve Comstock 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Gabe Goldberg wrote:
>> (Sorry for cross-posting...)
>>
>> I'm writing an article for CA about baby-boom mainframers (that's me
>> too, my first job out of college in 1968 was with IBM in Poughkeepsie)
>> about what we're all doing and seeing and facing in our careers.
>>
>> Do people plan to work as long as they're able? Because of enjoyable
>> jobs? From necessity? For other reasons?
>
>So, I'm _older_ than a baby boomer (based on your definition below;
>I was born in 1944). But I'll keep working because I enjoy the work
>_and_ because I need to.
>
>> [snip]
>
>
>>
>> Please reply to me directly as well as to the list, so I see responses
>> separate from the daily digest. Relatively brief comments are best so I
>> can ask follow-up questions if necessary.
>>
>> The two articles -- for z/Journal and Mainframe Executive -- about which
>> I queried the lists about mainframe education are nearly done, will
>> appear early next year, I think.
>>
>> Thanks to people who responded for those, and who respond now!
>>
>
>
>
>
>Kind regards,
>
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Re: Server Pac

[Linda Mooney]

Hi Hal,

In some shops, mine included, the RACF folks handle the security portions of 
the install.  There are some warnings in the ServerPac doc about running the 
RACF setup, including warnings about what may happen to your driving system.  I 
tell the what I need, need to accomplish, and I give them the generated RACF 
job from GENSKEL.  That works and it keeps the auditors happy.  I will need to 
make some limited use of IBMUSER.  They enable it when I need it and they audit 
it, which also keeps the suditors happy. 

Linda Mooney

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> In laying done a basic Server Pack system, is it possible to specify a 
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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Carlson, Steven]

Dave:

  How would I know which of the 39000+ tapes to change from SCXRATCH to SCRATCH?


-Original Message-
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Quinton
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:56 PM
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If you want to reset the error status of the tapes, use ISMF and alter the
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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Linda Mooney]

Hi Lizette,

Do you run the CA1 invalid pointers report?  Anything show up there? 

Linda Mooney
-- Original message -- 
From: Lizette Koehler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> List - 
> 
> I have been wrestling with this for a couple of weeks. Thought I had it fixed 
> but it still shows errors. 
> 
> When I display my VTS 
> 
> RESPONSE=SDH8 
> CBR1110I OAM library status: 410 
> TAPE LIB DEVICE TOT ONL AVL TOTAL EMPTY SCRTCH ON OP 
> LIBRARY TYP TYPE DRV DRV DRV SLOTS SLOTS VOLS 
> SCSVTS1 VL 3584-L22 128 128 127 959 413 5514 Y Y 
> -- 
> MEDIA SCRATCH SCRATCH SCRATCH 
> TYPE COUNT THRESHOLD CATEGORY 
> MEDIA2 5514 1000 1002 
> -- 
> LIBRARY ID: B2764 
> OPERATIONAL STATE: AUTOMATED 
> ERROR CATEGORY SCRATCH COUNT: 14 
> SCRATCH STACKED VOLUME COUNT: 90 
> PRIVATE STACKED VOLUME COUNT: 84 
> -- 
> Bulk input/output not configured. 
> 
> It shows 14 tapes in the error category Scratch Count. 
> 
> I went into ISMF and listed all the volumes and find this type of entry 
> 
> 514454 SCRATCH REJ BY TAP MGT SYS 
> 517590 SCRATCH REJ BY TAP MGT SYS 
> 
> I looked in CA1 and cannot figure out how to get these errors removed. 
> 
> Thoughs? 
> 
> Lizette 
> 
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Re: Query: Mainframers look forward and back

[Steve Comstock]

Gabe Goldberg wrote:

(Sorry for cross-posting...)

I'm writing an article for CA about baby-boom mainframers (that's me 
too, my first job out of college in 1968 was with IBM in Poughkeepsie) 
about what we're all doing and seeing and facing in our careers.


Do people plan to work as long as they're able? Because of enjoyable 
jobs? From necessity? For other reasons?


So, I'm _older_ than a baby boomer (based on your definition below;
I was born in 1944). But I'll keep working because I enjoy the work
_and_ because I need to.


[snip]





Please reply to me directly as well as to the list, so I see responses 
separate from the daily digest. Relatively brief comments are best so I 
can ask follow-up questions if necessary.


The two articles -- for z/Journal and Mainframe Executive -- about which 
I queried the lists about mainframe education are nearly done, will 
appear early next year, I think.


Thanks to people who responded for those, and who respond now!






Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.

303-393-8716
http://www.trainersfriend.com

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   + How things work
   + Programming examples with realistic applications
   + Starter / skeleton code
   + Complete working programs
   + Useful utilities and subroutines
   + Tips and techniques

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Query: Mainframers look forward and back

[Gabe Goldberg]

(Sorry for cross-posting...)

I'm writing an article for CA about baby-boom mainframers (that's me 
too, my first job out of college in 1968 was with IBM in Poughkeepsie) 
about what we're all doing and seeing and facing in our careers.


Do people plan to work as long as they're able? Because of enjoyable 
jobs? From necessity? For other reasons?


Are folks being downsized/outsourced?

Retiring voluntarily or otherwise? When projects finish or ... certain 
ages are reached? Or companies migrate off the mainframe? Or youngsters 
are available for lower salaries?


Regarding "dump the mainframe projects" -- have you stayed with a 
company after migrating to another platform? How has that worked out? 
Have you seen "dump" projects fail or simply continue forever with 
mainframes chugging along productively?


Has the skill set required for mainframe work changed during your 
career? How have tools evolved to support skills required?


What are boomer mainframers doing in retirement? Are you taking new jobs 
and "double dipping"? Becoming consultants? Trainers? Writers? With 
former employers? In locations you've worked or moving?


Or starting new careers in other fields?

With decades of experience and perspective -- and considering 
contradictory trends of organizations migrating to other platforms AND 
the general resurgence of the mainframe -- what recommendations are 
offered for the mainframe's future?


Are younger-generation mainframe staffers joining your companies? Have 
you helped recruit any (including family members!)? How are they 
integrated into your data centers? Are there inter-generational issues 
(training, collaboration, communication, work habits, whatever)? What 
should employers do to smooth the process?


Have you worked for younger bosses/managers? What's that been like? Are 
there challenges communicating mainframe benefits, mindset, practices to 
them?


For reference, Wikipedia defines baby boomers as being born between 1946 
and 1964. So if you served in WW I or had your first legal drink 
celebrating Y2K, someone else will have to document your life.


People who've REALLY left the mainframe arena may not be on these lists 
-- so feel free to forward this with colleagues you've stayed in touch with!


Please reply to me directly as well as to the list, so I see responses 
separate from the daily digest. Relatively brief comments are best so I 
can ask follow-up questions if necessary.


The two articles -- for z/Journal and Mainframe Executive -- about which 
I queried the lists about mainframe education are nearly done, will 
appear early next year, I think.


Thanks to people who responded for those, and who respond now!

--
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3401 Silver Maple Place, Falls Church, VA 22042[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Dave Quinton]

If you want to reset the error status of the tapes, use ISMF and alter the
tapes in question from SCRATCH to SCRATCH.

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Lizette:

 I have removed the IBM version of the CBRUXENT, brought down OAM, did a LLA
refresh, and the display is still incorrect. What version of CA-1 software are
you running, and what version of Z/OS are you running?

This shop is running CA-1 Version 11.5 SP4, and Z/OS 1.9.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Lizette Koehler
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:13 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: How to correct tape errors

I will check that out.

I know that the one shipped by IBM is in SYS1.LINKLIB at the top of the linklst
and the one for CA1 is in the SYS1.CA1.LINKLIB data set which is further down.

Lizette


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>From: Mark Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Nov 6, 2008 2:21 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: How to correct tape errors
>
>Lizette Koehler wrote:
>> List -
>>
>> I have been wrestling with this for a couple of weeks.  Thought I had it
fixed but it still shows errors.
>>
>> When I display my VTS
>>
>> RESPONSE=SDH8
>>  CBR1110I OAM library status: 410
>>  TAPE  LIB  DEVICETOT  ONL  AVL  TOTAL  EMPTY SCRTCH  ON OP
>>  LIBRARY   TYP  TYPE  DRV  DRV  DRV  SLOTS  SLOTS   VOLS
>>  SCSVTS1   VL   3584-L22  128  128  127959413   5514  Y  Y
>>  --
>>  MEDIA   SCRATCH   SCRATCH   SCRATCH
>>  TYPE  COUNT THRESHOLD  CATEGORY
>>  MEDIA2 5514  1000  1002
>>  --
>>  LIBRARY ID: B2764
>>  OPERATIONAL STATE:  AUTOMATED
>>  ERROR CATEGORY SCRATCH COUNT:  14
>>  SCRATCH STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  90
>>  PRIVATE STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  84
>>  --
>>  Bulk input/output not configured.
>>
>> It shows 14 tapes in the error category Scratch Count.
>>
>> I went into ISMF and listed all the volumes and find this type of entry
>>
>> 514454 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>> 517590 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>>
>> I looked in CA1 and cannot figure out how to get these errors removed.
>>
>> Thoughs?
>>
>> Lizette
>>
>>
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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Carlson, Steven]

Lizette:

 I have removed the IBM version of the CBRUXENT, brought down OAM, did a LLA 
refresh, and the display is still incorrect. What version of CA-1 software are 
you running, and what version of Z/OS are you running?

This shop is running CA-1 Version 11.5 SP4, and Z/OS 1.9.

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Subject: Re: How to correct tape errors

I will check that out.

I know that the one shipped by IBM is in SYS1.LINKLIB at the top of the linklst 
and the one for CA1 is in the SYS1.CA1.LINKLIB data set which is further down.

Lizette


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>From: Mark Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
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>Lizette Koehler wrote:
>> List -
>>
>> I have been wrestling with this for a couple of weeks.  Thought I had it 
>> fixed but it still shows errors.
>>
>> When I display my VTS
>>
>> RESPONSE=SDH8
>>  CBR1110I OAM library status: 410
>>  TAPE  LIB  DEVICETOT  ONL  AVL  TOTAL  EMPTY SCRTCH  ON OP
>>  LIBRARY   TYP  TYPE  DRV  DRV  DRV  SLOTS  SLOTS   VOLS
>>  SCSVTS1   VL   3584-L22  128  128  127959413   5514  Y  Y
>>  --
>>  MEDIA   SCRATCH   SCRATCH   SCRATCH
>>  TYPE  COUNT THRESHOLD  CATEGORY
>>  MEDIA2 5514  1000  1002
>>  --
>>  LIBRARY ID: B2764
>>  OPERATIONAL STATE:  AUTOMATED
>>  ERROR CATEGORY SCRATCH COUNT:  14
>>  SCRATCH STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  90
>>  PRIVATE STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  84
>>  --
>>  Bulk input/output not configured.
>>
>> It shows 14 tapes in the error category Scratch Count.
>>
>> I went into ISMF and listed all the volumes and find this type of entry
>>
>> 514454 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>> 517590 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>>
>> I looked in CA1 and cannot figure out how to get these errors removed.
>>
>> Thoughs?
>>
>> Lizette
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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Lizette Koehler]

I will check that out.

I know that the one shipped by IBM is in SYS1.LINKLIB at the top of the linklst 
and the one for CA1 is in the SYS1.CA1.LINKLIB data set which is further down.

Lizette


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>
>Lizette Koehler wrote:
>> List -
>>
>> I have been wrestling with this for a couple of weeks.  Thought I had it 
>> fixed but it still shows errors.
>>
>> When I display my VTS
>>
>> RESPONSE=SDH8
>>  
>>  CBR1110I OAM library status: 410
>>  
>>  TAPE  LIB  DEVICETOT  ONL  AVL  TOTAL  EMPTY SCRTCH  ON OP  
>>  
>>  LIBRARY   TYP  TYPE  DRV  DRV  DRV  SLOTS  SLOTS   VOLS 
>>  
>>  SCSVTS1   VL   3584-L22  128  128  127959413   5514  Y  Y   
>>  
>>  --  
>>  
>>  MEDIA   SCRATCH   SCRATCH   SCRATCH 
>>  
>>  TYPE  COUNT THRESHOLD  CATEGORY 
>>  
>>  MEDIA2 5514  1000  1002 
>>  
>>  --  
>>  
>>  LIBRARY ID: B2764   
>>  
>>  OPERATIONAL STATE:  AUTOMATED   
>>  
>>  ERROR CATEGORY SCRATCH COUNT:  14   
>>  
>>  SCRATCH STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  90   
>>  
>>  PRIVATE STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  84   
>>  
>>  --  
>>  
>>  Bulk input/output not configured. 
>>
>> It shows 14 tapes in the error category Scratch Count.
>>
>> I went into ISMF and listed all the volumes and find this type of entry
>>
>> 514454 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>> 517590 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>>
>> I looked in CA1 and cannot figure out how to get these errors removed.
>>
>> Thoughs?
>>
>> Lizette
>>
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Re: How to correct tape errors

[Mark Jacobs]

Lizette Koehler wrote:
> List -
>
> I have been wrestling with this for a couple of weeks.  Thought I had it 
> fixed but it still shows errors.
>
> When I display my VTS
>
> RESPONSE=SDH8 
> 
>  CBR1110I OAM library status: 410 
> 
>  TAPE  LIB  DEVICETOT  ONL  AVL  TOTAL  EMPTY SCRTCH  ON OP   
> 
>  LIBRARY   TYP  TYPE  DRV  DRV  DRV  SLOTS  SLOTS   VOLS  
> 
>  SCSVTS1   VL   3584-L22  128  128  127959413   5514  Y  Y
> 
>  --   
> 
>  MEDIA   SCRATCH   SCRATCH   SCRATCH  
> 
>  TYPE  COUNT THRESHOLD  CATEGORY  
> 
>  MEDIA2 5514  1000  1002  
> 
>  --   
> 
>  LIBRARY ID: B2764
> 
>  OPERATIONAL STATE:  AUTOMATED
> 
>  ERROR CATEGORY SCRATCH COUNT:  14
> 
>  SCRATCH STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  90
> 
>  PRIVATE STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  84
> 
>  --   
> 
>  Bulk input/output not configured. 
>
> It shows 14 tapes in the error category Scratch Count.
>
> I went into ISMF and listed all the volumes and find this type of entry
>
> 514454 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
> 517590 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
>
> I looked in CA1 and cannot figure out how to get these errors removed.
>
> Thoughs?
>
> Lizette
>
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How to correct tape errors

[Lizette Koehler]

List -

I have been wrestling with this for a couple of weeks.  Thought I had it fixed 
but it still shows errors.

When I display my VTS

RESPONSE=SDH8   
  
 CBR1110I OAM library status: 410   
  
 TAPE  LIB  DEVICETOT  ONL  AVL  TOTAL  EMPTY SCRTCH  ON OP 
  
 LIBRARY   TYP  TYPE  DRV  DRV  DRV  SLOTS  SLOTS   VOLS
  
 SCSVTS1   VL   3584-L22  128  128  127959413   5514  Y  Y  
  
 -- 
  
 MEDIA   SCRATCH   SCRATCH   SCRATCH
  
 TYPE  COUNT THRESHOLD  CATEGORY
  
 MEDIA2 5514  1000  1002
  
 -- 
  
 LIBRARY ID: B2764  
  
 OPERATIONAL STATE:  AUTOMATED  
  
 ERROR CATEGORY SCRATCH COUNT:  14  
  
 SCRATCH STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  90  
  
 PRIVATE STACKED VOLUME COUNT:  84  
  
 -- 
  
 Bulk input/output not configured. 

It shows 14 tapes in the error category Scratch Count.

I went into ISMF and listed all the volumes and find this type of entry

514454 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS
517590 SCRATCH  REJ BY TAP MGT SYS

I looked in CA1 and cannot figure out how to get these errors removed.

Thoughs?

Lizette
   

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Re: ECSA near full

[Bill Wilkie]

I agree with everything that has been said so far but would like to elaborate a 
little more. 
 
Since this storage must be specifically acquired and specifically freed, most 
applications that use it will have an FRR or Estae to free it in the event of 
an abend. But as Tom Marchant mentioned, it may very well be that the 
application that acquired it is no longer active, but that doesn't mean it can 
be freed, and therein lies the danger. So let me cite a specific example to 
explain it. 
 
Let's take a job scheduling system as an example. A program starts, acquires 
some storage, ANCHORS THE ADDRESS AND SIZE of that storage in the user area of 
a system control block(I forget which one now), and ends. A user exit then 
picks up the address from the control block and scans the buffers looking for 
an available one, then build the JOB/STEP termination record and set the status 
to full. Another address space comes along picks up that same address and scans 
for full buffers, writes it out to the database, and makes it available for 
re-use. So all of this is going on LONG AFTER the program that acquired the 
storage has ended.  Do you think you would like to free it because no active 
task owns it? I doubt it. Anyway, I thought I would provide a concrete example 
of how it can happen and why it is not safe. I suspect this is what bit Art in 
the example he cited. 
 
That being said,  if the useage went up and stayed there, you may follow the 
suggestion to increase it. If it goes up every day, someone is not freeing it 
up. To find the culprit, IBM had a program that would analyze trace data but I 
am not sure if it is still around. Basically, you would trace the getmain 
events and freemain events and the program would sort it and look for getmains 
without a corresponding freemain to point out the culprit. 
 
Hope that helps
Bill> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:38:38 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 
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carefully.> > Indeed. In a past life, I brought up the newly-available Omegamon 
CSA > Analyzer I "identified" a large chunk of "unowned" storage. So, I freed 
it. > Luckily, it was on development, but I still drew plenty of ire from the > 
applications teams for the mid-day IPL when CATALOG lost its brains. One > 
closed-door conversation with my boss later, we agreed to NEVER do that > 
again. I did get a sandbox LPAR out of it, though...> > Regards,> Art Gutowski> 
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Re: Server Pac

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Hal Merritt pisze:

In laying done a basic Server Pack system, is it possible to specify a
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One of ServerPac jobs is for creation of ICHRIN03 - you can (in fact 
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Re: Phased Maintenance

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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:29:02 -0600, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:50:42 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
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>>
>>We don't handle all environments / companies / sysplexes the same.
>>One of our production sysplexes has a sysprog sandbox LPAR that
>>usually gets maintenance first (similar to what you do).  No production runs
>>there but most system STCs run there.I personally don't like it and it has
>>caused a problem or two in the production sysplex over the years that I have
>>been supporting it.
>
>I'm confused.  You don't like what?
>

Having a sysprog sandbox LPAR as part of the production sysplex.  There
are some benefits, but as I said,  it has caused a few problems over
the years too.   For example, one problem was caused by the capacity
group not having enough weight assigned so the LPAR could participate
in sysplex communication - this caused sysplex wide problems 
(just one example).  

None of our other sysplexes are configured that way.  Production is production,
development is development, sandbox is sandbox.   

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Re: OT:Great country

[Miklos Szigetvari]

Hi

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Server Pac

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Re: Phased Maintenance

[Tom Marchant]

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:50:42 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:

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>We don't handle all environments / companies / sysplexes the same.
>One of our production sysplexes has a sysprog sandbox LPAR that
>usually gets maintenance first (similar to what you do).  No production runs
>there but most system STCs run there.I personally don't like it and it has
>caused a problem or two in the production sysplex over the years that I have
>been supporting it.

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Re: OT:Great country

[Maarten Slegtenhorst]

Origin of the IBM Mainframe! 

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Miklos Szigetvari wrote:

>Here I mean the USA

Why?

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Re: Phased Maintenance

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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:07:47 -0600, Arthur Gutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:53:55 -0600, Mark Zelden
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>>Isn't that what all (sane) shops do?  That is one of the main benefits
>>of a parallel sysplex environment (rolling IPLs).
>
>I guess I know where *we* stand...
>
>Though we have some sysplex here, we are not yet taking advantage of
>rolling IPLs.  We cook on our sandbox, then cook more on a first-run subset of
>development systems, plus, insanely, one production system, and then, more
>insanely, hit all remaining systems.  Altering this process is an uphill
battle...
>

That is just a variation of the same thing.   You still cycle through 
sandbox, development, then production.   And even though you roll out
to one of your production LPARs at the same time  I assume is not your
most critical production LPAR.  :-)

As I wrote:
>It's not limited to sysplex.  I'm sure all multi-LPAR shops have LPARs
>that are more or less critical then others (at least a sandbox) and the
>maintenance hopefully "spins" on those less critical LPARs first.


We don't handle all environments / companies / sysplexes the same.
One of our production sysplexes has a sysprog sandbox LPAR that 
usually gets maintenance first (similar to what you do).  No production runs 
there but most system STCs run there.I personally don't like it and it has 
caused a problem or two in the production sysplex over the years that I have 
been supporting it.

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Re: OT:Great country

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Re: IODF change causes next IPL to "hang"

[Steve R Wolf]

Hello list,

I had the following question in July of this year.  I just want add to the 
archive the resolution of this problem.



Our system is a 2096 U03 with three LPARs but no sysplex.  Two LPARs are 
production, one at z/OS 1.4 and a small one at z/OS 1.7. The current IODF 
is 
a version 5 level.

This weekend I activated a new IODF on the 1.4 system using the HCD 
dialogs 
which completed successfully. I did not do an activate on the 1.7  We then 

IPLed the 1.4 system and it just waited.  The NIP console was not 
activated 
and there was not a hard wait. I brought up my rescue system and changed 
the IODF back to the old one and the 1.4 system IPLed ok. 



The problem was I had two control unit # 2 on the same path because I did 
not requested EMC to verify my IODF.  HCD did not object because it had to 
do with the DMX1000 internal mapping of CHIPIDs.  This obviously caused 
the DMX1000 to do some sort of diagnostics.  My IODF error was partially 
due to the fact that our maintenance contract had expired with EMC and we 
had not completed negotiations with a third party to support the DMX1000.

Regards,

Listen. Think. Solve.

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Rockwell Automation
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Re: Need someone to fix a free HTTP Server written in Assembler

[Kirk Wolf]

If you choose an OSI-approved open-source license, like GPL or BSD,
then you can host your project for free on sourceforge and use their
source code control (CVS or subversion), their forums, their download
file space, their bandwidth, etc.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies

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>>incomplete.
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Re: Phased Maintenance

[Arthur Gutowski]

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:53:55 -0600, Mark Zelden 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Isn't that what all (sane) shops do?  That is one of the main benefits
>of a parallel sysplex environment (rolling IPLs).

I guess I know where *we* stand...

Though we have some sysplex here, we are not yet taking advantage of 
rolling IPLs.  We cook on our sandbox, then cook more on a first-run subset of 
development systems, plus, insanely, one production system, and then, more 
insanely, hit all remaining systems.  Altering this process is an uphill 
battle...

In a past life as a service provider, I witnessed many customers successfully 
use rolling IPLs with anywhere from 1 week to 1 month in between.  The 
caveat of co-requisite maintenance or "step-up" maintenance is rare, but 
requires vigilance.  Now that I've been in a JES3 shop, I've learned that 
rolling 
IPLs can be compromised with a Global Warm-Start.  

Cheers,
Art Gutowski
Ford Motor Company ITInfrastructure

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Re: Phased Maintenance

[Crawford, Robert C.]

We've always blasted maintenance across all the LPAR's in a Sysplex during a 
six hour window on Sunday.  We have things fairly well Sysplex'ed so we usually 
avoid outages.
We feel like the next step is to try one LPAR early for a couple of reasons.  
First, so we can put maintenance on a small LPAR during business hours 
(work-life balance, don't you know).  Second, if we route a small amount of 
production work to the up-level LPAR we have a fair chance of catching a bug 
before it shows up on our biggest machine Monday morning.
We're interested in hearing from people who're already doing this or those who 
decided it's too risky.

Robert Crawford
CICS Technical Support
United Services Automobile Association
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We've ALWAYS done it that way. What's on your mind ??

Robert Crawford wrote:

>Is anyone on the list using a phased maintenance scheme?  By this I mean
>IPL'ing one LPAR in a Sysplex with a new maintenance level and letting it run
>for a week or so before applying the change to the rest of the systems?
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Re: OT:Great country

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Miklos Szigetvari wrote:

>Here I mean the USA

Why?

(Don't give me a political reason, just a mainframe topic reason, ok?)

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Re: ECSA near full

[Arthur Gutowski]

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:39:31 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>>Tread carefully.
>
>Very carefully.

Indeed.  In a past life, I brought up the newly-available Omegamon CSA 
Analyzer I "identified" a large chunk of "unowned" storage.  So, I freed it.  
Luckily, it was on development, but I still drew plenty of ire from the 
applications teams for the mid-day IPL when CATALOG lost its brains.  One 
closed-door conversation with my boss later, we agreed to NEVER do that 
again.  I did get a sandbox LPAR out of it, though...

Regards,
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Ford Motor Company ITInfrastructure

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Re: Need someone to fix a free HTTP Server written in Assembler

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/02/2008
   at 03:48 PM, Sam Golob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>   Please also write to me about this idea, of putting tools that need 
>some completion out on the Updates Page, and which are marked as being 
>incomplete.

I like the idea. I'd suggest that cvs, iebupdtx or subversion be used to
manage independent changes.
 
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Re: Need someone to fix a free HTTP Server written in Assembler

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
11/02/2008
   at 07:40 PM, John McKown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>If possible, with the original author's concurrance, I would suggest 
>licensing this under the GPL version 3 or later.

That's extremely restrictive. I'd suggest either the BSD license or GPL
V2.
 
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Re: Need someone to fix a free HTTP Server written in Assembler

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/03/2008
   at 07:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I doubt that the CBTTape personnel have the resources to moderate all the
>programs hosted by CBTTape.org;

I would expect the original submitter to coordinate changes. I would not
ask or expect the admin of the repository to do so.

>IEBUPDTE is a poor cousin of CMS UPDATE,
>but perhaps workable.

IEBUPDTX would be far more workable.
 
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Re: How to stop REXX from interpating statement?

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 11/04/2008
   at 11:14 AM, "Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Not sure what you want. REXX alway replaces all variables on a statement
>before executing the resulting statment. 

 i='**'
 do i=1 to 10
 say i
 end

You will see that REXX does *not* replace the i with ** on the do
statement. Variable substitution only occurs in expressions.
 
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Re: Using SETXCF START,MSGBASED exploit MSGBASED processing for CFRM?

[Knutson, Sam]

Hi,

For the archives we have now also converted two Sysplex to use MSGBASED 
processing for CFRM without incident. We just did this on our production 
Sysplex this morning.

D XCF,STR
.
EVENT MANAGEMENT: MESSAGE-BASED   MANAGER SYSTEM NAME:  DSYS


In IBM tests using MSGBASED instead of POLICY based rebuild times improved 
roughly 50%, and duplex failover time improved roughly 90% vs the old policy 
based processing. We just deployed this into a larger Sysplex today so we don't 
yet have a sense on what we will see here.  The intent was to improve the 
elapsed recovery time when handling things like CF Failure, or removal of 
system from Sysplex, or rebuilding structures. For those sort of cases, there 
was much contention on the CFRM policy record in the CDS. MsgBased eliminates 
much of the contention; hence elapsed times improve for these failure cases. 
The more structures you have and/or the more systems in the Sysplex, the more 
likely it is that the improvements will be noticed. 
*Above paragraph mostly taken from comments by Mark Brooks (IBM) so anything 
useful in that description was from Mark anything stated incorrectly was lost 
in translation by me. 

Thanks Doug Henry, Mark Brooks, others who provided useful feedback and advice!

Best Regards, 

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Re: OT:Great country

[Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM]

Aha. In this group unspecific locations and times often default to the
USA although the rest of the world is larger than them, but I did not
get this from your short subjectline.

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Re: OT:Great country

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Here I mean the USA

Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:


Which?

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Which?

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