Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Edward Jaffe pisze: R.S. wrote: It is also worth to mention that IBM is the only company which is not try to catch the customer. I read several horror stories on this forum, on ISVcosts list, from own experience - almost any other company presents license agreements that HAVE to be negotiated. Only IBM's license agreemenst are let's say FAIR. No excessive costs of upgrade, SS, etc. BTW: I didn't say 'CA' g You're statements that: IBM is the only company which is not try to 'catch' the customer and Only IBM's license agreemenst are let's say FAIR [SIC]--which I will paraphrase, since you are a non-native English speaker, to mean: IBM is the only honest mainframe software company are highly insulting and patently false. You might have read so-called horror stories. And, you might have your own anecdotal negative experiences. But, I know for an ABSOLUTE FACT you are NOT a customer of Phoenix Software International. Your assertions, therefore, should not and cannot apply to us or any other software providers with whom you do not do business. (I suspect there are *dozens* of them--some who freely contribute their time and expertise to this list!) Your statements are unfair, inaccurate, subjective opinion presented as fact, and ought to be recanted... I recant. I shouldn't say that IBM is the only honest company. That should be the only honest company *I know* . This statement does not preclude other companies. Obviously I didn't mean PSI, because I had nothing to do with this company. However *every* ISV's license agreement I met needed negotiation. Not only for the price, but first of all terms and conditions. Sometimes it was small change, but sometimes not. Last but not least: ISV *technical* employees usually are not responsible for marketing model of the company they work for. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2009 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 118.763.528 złotych. W związku z realizacją warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwały XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchwały XVI NWZ z dnia 27 października 2008r., może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym BRE Banku SA będą w całości opłacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:50:02 +0200 R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: :I recant. :I shouldn't say that IBM is the only honest company. That should be the :only honest company *I know* . This statement does not preclude other :companies. :Obviously I didn't mean PSI, because I had nothing to do with this :company. However *every* ISV's license agreement I met needed :negotiation. Not only for the price, but first of all terms and :conditions. Sometimes it was small change, but sometimes not. Let me understand this correctly. You accept all IBM boilerplate agreements with zero negotiation??? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Binyamin Dissen pisze: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:50:02 +0200 R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: :I recant. :I shouldn't say that IBM is the only honest company. That should be the :only honest company *I know* . This statement does not preclude other :companies. :Obviously I didn't mean PSI, because I had nothing to do with this :company. However *every* ISV's license agreement I met needed :negotiation. Not only for the price, but first of all terms and :conditions. Sometimes it was small change, but sometimes not. Let me understand this correctly. You accept all IBM boilerplate agreements with zero negotiation??? No. I don't have to look for gotchas. I negotiate prices, but usually not TsCs. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:24:20 +0200 R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: :Binyamin Dissen pisze: : On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:50:02 +0200 R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl : wrote: : :I recant. : :I shouldn't say that IBM is the only honest company. That should be the : :only honest company *I know* . This statement does not preclude other : :companies. : :Obviously I didn't mean PSI, because I had nothing to do with this : :company. However *every* ISV's license agreement I met needed : :negotiation. Not only for the price, but first of all terms and : :conditions. Sometimes it was small change, but sometimes not. : Let me understand this correctly. You accept all IBM boilerplate agreements : with zero negotiation??? :No. :I don't have to look for gotchas. I negotiate prices, but usually not :TsCs. Please present some examples of a gotchas that are unique to ISVs. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDSE HELP Required.
Rick Fochtman wrote: In case you forgot: regular load modules only contain a note list if they are in OVERLAY format, which is both archaic and unnecessarily complicated. OVERLAY format does use a second entry in the NOTE list, but *all* PDS load modules have at least one entry in the NOTE TTR list to point to the first text block. I have, no doubt, forgotten lots of other things, though... Cheers, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
I don't have to look for gotchas. I negotiate prices, but usually not TsCs. Boy! Are you naive! TC are negotiable! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
WLM initiators and IEF196I messages
Hi all, A little something I noticed... We have some code in IEFACTRT that issues WTO messages with route code 11 (don't ask..). When a job is running under a JES-managed initiator, the messages are displayed fine in the JESMSGLG. When a job is running under a WLM-managed initiator, each message is echoed again with IEF196I message. I know that is what IEF196I is for. I see IWM034I stating that the WLM-managed initiator was started with parameters SUB=MSTR. But isn't that behavior of WLM-managed initiators inconsistent with the behavior of JES-managed initiators? Shouldn't WLM-managed initiators be started under the JES subsystem like JES-managed initiators? Thanks, Gil. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Ted MacNEIL pisze: I don't have to look for gotchas. I negotiate prices, but usually not TsCs. Boy! Are you naive! TC are negotiable! I'm not naive. I know that TsCs are negotiable, as everything in business. It is strange: when I complained about IBM on the list, I was scolded. Now I said something positive and I'm again scolded. What I wrote is my (non-sponsored) opinion, based on some (mine and others) experience. It wasn't my goal to convince anyone of anything. EOT -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2009 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 118.763.528 złotych. W związku z realizacją warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwały XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchwały XVI NWZ z dnia 27 października 2008r., może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym BRE Banku SA będą w całości opłacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: SV: SV: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
:D -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Steve Comstock Skickat: den 11 september 2009 20:06 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: SV: SV: CLIST/REXX Library Formats Thomas Berg wrote: [snip] This makes it somewhat unusable when You want/need to work fast. Which I normally do. Yeah, that's the word on the street. At least from the ladies. :-) -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Paul Gilmartin Skickat: den 11 september 2009 23:26 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:38:21 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote: -Ursprungligt meddelande- [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Paul Gilmartin snip If You with data length mean actual, existing data, not the LRECL of the dataset; then Yes. I'm using VB 32756/32760 as a way to catch all needs. When I then have 1000 rows in an existing member (this is a PDSE), it take someting like 3 seconds to repeat a row. (Line command R.) Then length of the data in a row is max 80 bytes. Indeed, I failed to write what I meant, length in the DCB. Your observation supports my surmise that ISPF (like XEDIT) pads all records to that length. This makes it somewhat unusable when You want/need to work fast. Which I normally do. This ought to be a topic for a performance APAR. You likely would get no better than SUG. SUG ? Regards, Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SRDF/A, DB2
We will soon be installing an EMC V-Max and SRDF/A in an DB2 environment running on an Z/OS LPAR(s). Can anyone share what their best practices are or Point me to where I can find any Documentation on this subject? Thanks in advance! You did not say if you were doing SRDF/A prior to the DB2 so just a few general words which you may already know. In general doing SRDF/A and with any database system, defining Consistency Groups is critical to keep all parts of the database in one logical piece. EMC has the documentation which may not exactly spell things out in those terms but is a good place to start. If you can be more specific, then it would help. jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SRDF/A, DB2
Do you still have to install Consistency Group Software? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Terri E Shaffer Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 1:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SRDF/A, DB2 I think this is where I will tell you I will know in a month or two... We are installing a V-max with GDDR in a star configuration We have done it 2 other times within our environment, this is the first V-MAX and the newest EMC software mainframe enabler V7... And I wonder about the previous posts about the field idosyncorcies. Thanks Ms. Terri E. Shaffer terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com Engineer J.P.Morgan Chase Co. GTI DCT ECS Core Services zSoftware Group / Emerging Technologies Office: # 614-213-3467 Cell: # 412-519-2592 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Liberatore Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SRDF/A, DB2 We will soon be installing an EMC V-Max and SRDF/A in an DB2 environment running on an Z/OS LPAR(s). Can anyone share what their best practices are or Point me to where I can find any Documentation on this subject? Thanks in advance! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This communication is for informational purposes only. It is not intended as an offer or solicitation for the purchase or sale of any financial instrument or as an official confirmation of any transaction. All market prices, data and other information are not warranted as to completeness or accuracy and are subject to change without notice. Any comments or statements made herein do not necessarily reflect those of JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential, legally privileged, and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Although this transmission and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by JPMorgan Chase Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates, as applicable, for any loss or damage arising in any way from its use. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Please refer to http://www.jpmorgan.com/pages/disclosures for disclosures relating to European legal entities. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Wanted: SHARE Volume I proceedings
SHARE used to publish two volumes of Proceedings: Volume I was a book containing papers; Volume II was microfiche of everything else. I have started to convert the Volume I Proceedings to PDF. I have Volume I from SHARE 74 (Anaheim, Winter 1990) and SHARE 77 (Chicago, Summer 1991). If you have any other Volume I Proceedings in a file cabinet or in a box in your attic and are willing to donate it (or them), please contact me offline. During conversion to PDF the pages are removed from the binding, so the publication will be trashed during the process. Eventually the PDFs will be made available on a publically-accessible website. Bob Shannon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Peter, Yes, all SMF records are written by SMF. However, it is system programs or application programs that request SMF to write them. I know of many vendor programs that request the writing of various SMF records, and type 89 is no exception. Any program could set up the application oriented part of the SMF record and then request the SMF system to write it as a type 89. I have run into problem situations where a vendor program has requested the writing of an SMF record with an ID used by some other area and there have been conflicts, so the program requesting the particular SMF record does have to follow some standards. I do know for a fact that IBM's CPCS and imaging software packages cause type 89 records to be written. I've had to process them through a special program supplied by that area of IBM for the last 4 years. That program creates reports in csv file format that I then send into IBM so they can determine the charges for our CPCS and imaging processing for the next year. Those charges are based on the number of items that are processed in those systems. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors A vendor could write SMF Type 89 records that record something other than MSUs. IBM actually does this with their Check Processing Control System (CPCS) and imaging software. Those products write Type 89 records that record the number of items processed. It seems really unlikely that anyone would write their own SMF type 89 records (especially IBM). But perhaps you know something I don't. SMF 89 records are not written by applications. They are written by SMF. Only by SMF. SMF 89 subtype 2 records (which is what is really being talked about in the SCRT discussion) are written by SMF based on information associated with the product registration service (IFAEDREG). SMF 89 subtype 1 records are written by SMF based on information provided by applications using IFAUSAGE. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
What is said here might be true for those products that are doing sub-capacity pricing based on MSUs. They just need to register/deregister their product to write the MULC data. However, as I said in a previous post, I know that the IBM CPCS and imaging software cause SMF89 records to be written so those products can be priced based on the number of items processed by the products. I don't think that can be done by registering the product to write the MULC data. I have to process these records through a program to create reports to send to IBM each year. By the way, I also know that this was in place before the present sub-capacity pricing process was in place for the subsystems like CICS and DB2. I started to process these records at a previous job in 2000 or earlier. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors Scott Barry wrote: CA Common Services (CAIRIM) is writing SMF 89 data today, contributing to SMF 89 and MULC (SMF type 30) analysis and reporting for many of its software products. This effort came about in the past year's time- frame, having been revealed (remember - CA does not announce futures!) at CA World 2007. The product identification is delivered by CA as a PTF, if interested, to resolve the individual product names based on their CA LMP key identification. I think what Peter is saying is that such records are most likely NOT being created by CAIRIM. That is, it's unlikely that any CA-written code formats an SMF89 record and calls the SMFWTM service to write it to SMF. It's far more likely that CAIRIM simply uses the IFAEDxxx services to register/deregister their products and/or IFAUSAGE to write MULC data. Those actions will indirectly cause SMF89s to be produced. That's what our products do. I suspect, that's what they do too... Correct me if I'm wrong... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
T-Rex and Dino-Software
Hi, A few days ago I asked a question about a replacement for Dino Software’s T-Rex. From the way my question was phrased, it could have been inferred that I was dissatisfied with T-Rex or Dino Software. First I would like to apologize to the great people at Dino Software. I have always been satisfied with T-Rex, and your technical and administrative support. T-Rex is a great product , performs well and does almost anything you would want to do with a catalog. Dino Software’s support is always fast and to the point. Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
(ssh Client) z/OS to OpenSSH (CopSSH sshd) on Win Y2K SP4
Hi to all. I've a problem when I connect via ssh my USS session to CopSSH using pubkey and after starting a VbScript to exceute a MsExcel macro. When I start the vbscript that make a CreateObject(Excel.Application) it gives a Permission denied but this doesn't happens if I authenticate using password. I think that problem is about unix vs windows API permission but why only one method works fine? Any suggest? Many thanks in advance. Regards. -- Marco Indaco MF Consultant Loc : Milan, Italy Mob : (+39) 335 7035564 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Wanted: SHARE Volume I proceedings
bshan...@rocketsoftware.com (Bob Shannon) writes: SHARE used to publish two volumes of Proceedings: Volume I was a book containing papers; Volume II was microfiche of everything else. I have started to convert the Volume I Proceedings to PDF. I have Volume I from SHARE 74 (Anaheim, Winter 1990) and SHARE 77 (Chicago, Summer 1991). If you have any other Volume I Proceedings in a file cabinet or in a box in your attic and are willing to donate it (or them), please contact me offline. During conversion to PDF the pages are removed from the binding, so the publication will be trashed during the process. Eventually the PDFs will be made available on a publically-accessible website. the copyright law changed in '79 ... i have SHARE copyrighted document (LSRAD report) from '79 (after the copyright law change) and have been trying since last jan, to get share permission to put up scan on publicly available site (bitsavers.org ... which has some number of earlier SHARE documents as well as IBM manuals). under the old law ... the copyright would have expired. post from earlier this year http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#47 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009.html#70 -- 40+yrs virtualization experience (since Jan68), online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM initiators and IEF196I messages
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 06:48 -0400, Gil Peleg wrote: We have some code in IEFACTRT that issues WTO messages with route code 11 Yes, we changed our ACTRT to issue messages with another route code so to avoid those superfluous (IMO) IEF196I messages. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Andreas F. Geissbuehler Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment SNIP I second Jo on this and URGE YOU to continue with herc and MVS 3.8j, even Assembler 370, but forget COBOL. You need to master current, modern COBOL which you can accomplish short-term by visiting Prof. Don Higgin's website at www.z390.org. Don's Java-based zASM and zCOBOL at www.zcobol.org are modern, state-of-the-art implementation which I recomend you should evaluate and consider to use, instead of, in addition to and/or in combination with TK3. SNIP Assuming he is running a M/S product, he can probably get one of the COBOL books with a COBOL CD in it. Fujitsu's COBOL runs nicely on NT, and W2K (with a few tweeks). I haven't tried it under XP. The use of the FCOBOL under MVS3.8 or the equivalent under DOS (R34?), will teach COBOL basics. The PC based compilers will take that source (at least the Fujitsu one will) and produce working code under Winders. So the question is, where did OS/2 and a M/F compatible COBOL go? Why do people use Realia (do they still exist?) to do COBOL development on a PC and then upload the source to a M/F? [Same for the Fujitsu system.] It is because of IBM Marketing's view of the world. Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not reflect those held by poster's employer -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: T-Rex and Dino-Software
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:00:16 +0300, #1490;#1491;#1497; amp;#1489;#1503; #1488;#1489;#1497; gad...@malam.com wrote: Hi, A few days ago I asked a question about a replacement for Dino Softwares T-Rex. From the way my question was phrased, it could have been inferred that I was dissatisfied with T-Rex or Dino Software. I didn't take it that way. You only mentioned cost related to an upgrade: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0909L=ibm-mainD=1amp;O=DP=67544 First I would like to apologize to the great people at Dino Software. remainder of apology snipped I have to ask: Did the vendor contact you and ask you to post this apology? If so, I would consider that very wrong since you posted an legitimate question based on your experience and didn't disparage the vendor in any way that I can see. If not, did someone else contact you off line who mistook your post? Please be honest. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
In a message dated 9/14/2009 1:51:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl writes: company. However *every* ISV's license agreement I met needed negotiation. Not only for the price, but first of all terms and conditions. Sometimes it was small change, but sometimes not. IBM's billing systems used to be just the pits. Dups, retreads, and drops were common practice. When they outsourced marketing to third party it got really slovenly with third party contracts and more serial numbers for services. The cash cows, confusion and pricing did a lot to drive us away from IBM top to bottom. Third party have been caveat emptor for ages. John Anderson started the isvcosts list several years ago it's an end-user only forum to note problems and concerns. Seems like today management by magazine and instant gratification supercede technical competence and engineering synergy. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Let's face it: some vendors are very fair and accomodating while others have practices that can only be characterized as predatory. I've dealt with both kinds. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
--snip-- Let me understand this correctly. You accept all IBM boilerplate agreements with zero negotiation??? -unsnip If so, I want whatever it is that he's smoking! :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
That's all well and good. However, I just did a D PROD,STATE on my systems and several products - CPCS, the imaging software, CICS, DB2, and MQ - are not in this list, but they are all producing SMF Type89 records. The ones for CICS, DB2, and MQ are run though SCRT every month to produce the reports for IBM sub-capacity pricing. So it appears that this is not necessarily required to get the SMF Type 89 records. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors Kelman, Tom wrote: What is said here might be true for those products that are doing sub-capacity pricing based on MSUs. They just need to register/deregister their product to write the MULC data. However, as I said in a previous post, I know that the IBM CPCS and imaging software cause SMF89 records to be written so those products can be priced based on the number of items processed by the products. I don't think that can be done by registering the product to write the MULC data. 1) SMF89.1 records contain resource usage information. See IFAUSAGE service. 2) SMF89.2 records contain product usage information. See IFAEDREG and IFAEDDRG services. These services, and the IFAURP report program, are described in z/OS MVS Product Management: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2r130/ -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: T-Rex and Dino-Software
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 10:02 -0400, Mark Zelden wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:00:16 +0300, #1490;#1491;#1497; amp;#1489;#1503; #1488;#1489;#1497; gad...@malam.com wrote: From the way my question was phrased, it could have been inferred I didn't take it that way. For what little it may be worth, I *did* infer some dissatisfaction and was a bit surprised - seeing as the Dino people have always been helpful here and I'd never heard anyone disparage their product. Thanks to Gadi for clarifying his comment. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of RETAIN
Here is a short version of the job...and it croaks trying to open up the tape in the second part of the second step. We thought maybe it was a DD name conflict and changed the scheme for a test, same results...opened with IBM and will do the same with FDR folks. This job will be all generated by REXX to be dynamic. //TAPE1 DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.AIG002(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), // UNIT=(TAPE92,,DEFER), // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // LABEL=(1,SL,EXPDT=99000), // VOL=(,RETAIN) //DISK2 DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=DBPK23 //TAPE2 DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.DBPK23(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), // UNIT=(TAPE92,,DEFER), // LABEL=(2,SL,EXPDT=99000), // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // VOL=(PRIVATE,RETAIN,REF=*.TAPE1) //SYSIN DD DSN=PROD.PARMLIB(DR100),DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN1 DD SYSOUT=* //SYSDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //ABRMAP DD SYSOUT=* //* End of Step //DUMP2 EXEC PGM=FDR,REGION=8M //DISKA DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=DB0034 //TAPEA DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.DB0034(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // UNIT=(TAPE92,,DEFER), // LABEL=(3,SL,EXPDT=99000), // VOL=(,RETAIN,,,REF=*.DUMP1.TAPE1) //DISKB DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=DB0035 //TAPEB DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.DB0035(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), // UNIT=(TAPE92,,DEFER), // LABEL=(4,SL,EXPDT=99000), // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // VOL=(,RETAIN,,,REF=*.DUMP1.TAPE1) //SYSIN DD DSN=PROD.PARMLIB(DR100),DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN1 DD SYSOUT=* //SYSDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //ABRMAP DD SYSOUT=* //NOTIFY EXEC PGM=WTOPGM,COND=((3,GT),EVEN), // PARM='JOB DRAIG001 BACKUP FAILED ON MVS' //NOTIFY EXEC PGM=WTOPGM,COND=(1,LT), // PARM='JOB DRAIG001 BACKUP SUCCESSFUL ON MVS' //* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment - hit send too soon
Thompson, Steve wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Andreas F. Geissbuehler Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment SNIP I second Jo on this and URGE YOU to continue with herc and MVS 3.8j, even Assembler 370, but forget COBOL. You need to master current, modern COBOL which you can accomplish short-term by visiting Prof. Don Higgin's website at www.z390.org. Don's Java-based zASM and zCOBOL at www.zcobol.org are modern, state-of-the-art implementation which I recomend you should evaluate and consider to use, instead of, in addition to and/or in combination with TK3. SNIP Assuming he is running a M/S product, he can probably get one of the COBOL books with a COBOL CD in it. Fujitsu's COBOL runs nicely on NT, and W2K (with a few tweeks). I haven't tried it under XP. The use of the FCOBOL under MVS3.8 or the equivalent under DOS (R34?), will teach COBOL basics. The PC based compilers will take that source (at least the Fujitsu one will) and produce working code under Winders. So the question is, where did OS/2 and a M/F compatible COBOL go? Why do people use Realia (do they still exist?) to do COBOL development on a PC and then upload the source to a M/F? [Same for the Fujitsu system.] It is because of IBM Marketing's view of the world. Regards, Steve Thompson Marketing, probably. The current COBOL developers have been pushing the edge of modernity constantly. Now, COBOL can handle Unicode, ASCII, XML, DB2 LOBs, and more. I regularly create COBOL CGIs for z/OS, including one to implement an AJAX application. For those who care / need to, you can create OO COBOL classes that can interoperate with Java classes. And well-written COBOL code is clear and easy to read and maintain. Pretty nifty language these days. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment - hit send too soon
On 14 Sep 2009 08:25:19 -0700, st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) wrote: Marketing, probably. The current COBOL developers have been pushing the edge of modernity constantly. Which current CoBOL developers? The compiler writers at IBM? The majority of people who develop CoBOL programs in mainframe shops? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
On 11 Sep 2009 18:59:04 -0700, tom_moul...@1scom.net (Tom Moulder) wrote: I am working with a company that literally did this. They shipped a very large disk array to the central computing center and placed it next to the production array; synchronously copied all the data; found a quiet point on a Sunday morning and split the link; uncabled the array; shipped it across country to the BC site (Business Continuity now, not Disaster Recovery); they are in the process of cabling it up; will turn it on next weekend and away with go with a recovery drill. Heck, I find it more reliable to synchronize the files I need between home and work using my iPod as a medium than using the on-line disk storage I pay for. My batch update takes seconds to my iPod and always completes. The on-line update takes 5-10 minutes if it finishes at all. Sneaker-net has had quite a bit of success over the years. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CEEPIPI incorrect recovery processing?
Just looking for input as to whether this is working as designed before I report it as a defect... If a program that uses CEEPIPI to call HLL subroutines abends while *not* in any of the HLL subroutines, LE recovery processes the abend and transforms a system abend into a LE user abend. Meanwhile, the associated dump is written to SYSUDUMP rather than CEEDUMP. This situation can be recreated by using the samples ASMPIPI and HLLPIPI from the LE Programming Guide, and adding the abend of your choice (I used EX 0,*) after the label TSUB in ASMPIPI. Instead of seeing a ABENDS0C3 in ASMPIPI, you will see a ABENDU4036-2 associated with CEEPLPKA. The only sign of the original abend is in the system trace table. Needless to say, LE's recovery routines have not made a positive contribution to locating the original problem. One of the requirements for a program that uses CEEPIPI to call LE-conforming HLL routines is that the calling routine *not* be a LE-conforming program, so it seems nonsensical on the surface that LE's recovery routines would try to interpret the abend. The LE Programming Guide says: - init_sub creates a LE environment and sets the environment dormant so that exceptions are percolated out of it. - for call_sub, CEEPIPI activates the LE environment before the called routine is invoked, and after the called routine returns, the environment is dormant. It appears to me that LE is doing an incomplete job of ignoring/percolating abends that occur while outside of the LE environment. Does anyone know anything to the contrary? Thanks! -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507, gord.tom...@actionsoftware.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Let's face it: some vendors are very fair and accomodating while others have practices that can only be characterized as predatory. I've dealt with both kinds. So have I. As a Capacity Analyst, I have been more involved in costing, than I've ever wanted to be. I knew this was going to happen as soon as IBM introduced tiered pricing in 1984. The issue from Roland's post was not whether there were good, bad, or indifferent. Rather, it was his statement was IBM is good, and everybody else was bad. I can, from direct experience, state (unequivically) that I know two ISV's that (imo) Data21 (ZIP/390), and VANGUARD, are excellent vendors, in support, marketting cost, along with product capability. I can name two that are horrible, in my opinion, suck. But, with today's libel laws, I shall not publicly. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment - hit send too soon
Howard Brazee wrote: On 14 Sep 2009 08:25:19 -0700, st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) wrote: Marketing, probably. The current COBOL developers have been pushing the edge of modernity constantly. Which current CoBOL developers? The compiler writers at IBM? The majority of people who develop CoBOL programs in mainframe shops? The former, mostly. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment
Thompson, Steve wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Andreas F. Geissbuehler Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment SNIP I second Jo on this and URGE YOU to continue with herc and MVS 3.8j, even Assembler 370, but forget COBOL. You need to master current, modern COBOL which you can accomplish short-term by visiting Prof. Don Higgin's website at www.z390.org. Don's Java-based zASM and zCOBOL at www.zcobol.org are modern, state-of-the-art implementation which I recomend you should evaluate and consider to use, instead of, in addition to and/or in combination with TK3. SNIP Assuming he is running a M/S product, he can probably get one of the COBOL books with a COBOL CD in it. Fujitsu's COBOL runs nicely on NT, and W2K (with a few tweeks). I haven't tried it under XP. The use of the FCOBOL under MVS3.8 or the equivalent under DOS (R34?), will teach COBOL basics. The PC based compilers will take that source (at least the Fujitsu one will) and produce working code under Winders. So the question is, where did OS/2 and a M/F compatible COBOL go? Why do people use Realia (do they still exist?) to do COBOL development on a PC and then upload the source to a M/F? [Same for the Fujitsu system.] It is because of IBM Marketing's view of the world. Regards, Steve Thompson Marketing, probably. The current COBOL developers have been pushing the edge of modernity constantly. Now, -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Kelman, Tom wrote: What is said here might be true for those products that are doing sub-capacity pricing based on MSUs. They just need to register/deregister their product to write the MULC data. However, as I said in a previous post, I know that the IBM CPCS and imaging software cause SMF89 records to be written so those products can be priced based on the number of items processed by the products. I don't think that can be done by registering the product to write the MULC data. 1) SMF89.1 records contain resource usage information. See IFAUSAGE service. 2) SMF89.2 records contain product usage information. See IFAEDREG and IFAEDDRG services. These services, and the IFAURP report program, are described in z/OS MVS Product Management: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2r130/ -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of RETAIN
In a message dated 9/14/2009 9:47:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, daniel_mclaugh...@us.crawco.com writes: and it croaks trying to open up the tape in the second part of the second step. We thought maybe it was a DD name conflict and changed the scheme for a test, same results...opened with IBM and will do the same with FDR folks. This job will be all generated by REXX to Still miss Bruce Black(FDR). Anyway croakers generally issue messages? FDRABR keeps it's own catalog of backups and you should only need to point to the drive(s) once and it handles the rest. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/VM GDDM install
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:45:35 +0200, J D Cassidy s...@jdcassidy.net wrote: appreciate the advice, thank you. Bloody hard way to get a manual though... Perhaps you weren't around when you had to fill out a paper form and send it to the branch office? :-) By the time L-class books were eliminated, products like GDDM were in maintenance mode. That meant that there were no further issuance of publications and so the status-quo has been maintained. A PMR is how you Officially Complain to IBM about something, even if it is to complain about having to open an PMR! :-) (Help, I'm caught in an endless loop!) Alan Altmark IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Kelman, Tom wrote: That's all well and good. However, I just did a D PROD,STATE on my systems and several products - CPCS, the imaging software, CICS, DB2, and MQ - are not in this list, but they are all producing SMF Type89 records. The ones for CICS, DB2, and MQ are run though SCRT every month to produce the reports for IBM sub-capacity pricing. So it appears that this is not necessarily required to get the SMF Type 89 records. Right. The DISPLAY PROD command is for products that use IFAEDREG and IFAEDDRG. Products that use IFAUSAGE do not appear there. SMF 89.1 records were being produced for IFAUSAGE long before the product registration concept was envisioned. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CEEPIPI incorrect recovery processing?
If you change to SYSMDUMP and use the IPCS command IP VERBX LEDATA 'ALL', you may be able to get a traceback and PSW/regs at time of ABEND. Gord Tomlin wrote: Just looking for input as to whether this is working as designed before I report it as a defect... If a program that uses CEEPIPI to call HLL subroutines abends while *not* in any of the HLL subroutines, LE recovery processes the abend and transforms a system abend into a LE user abend. Meanwhile, the associated dump is written to SYSUDUMP rather than CEEDUMP. This situation can be recreated by using the samples ASMPIPI and HLLPIPI from the LE Programming Guide, and adding the abend of your choice (I used EX 0,*) after the label TSUB in ASMPIPI. Instead of seeing a ABENDS0C3 in ASMPIPI, you will see a ABENDU4036-2 associated with CEEPLPKA. The only sign of the original abend is in the system trace table. Needless to say, LE's recovery routines have not made a positive contribution to locating the original problem. One of the requirements for a program that uses CEEPIPI to call LE-conforming HLL routines is that the calling routine *not* be a LE-conforming program, so it seems nonsensical on the surface that LE's recovery routines would try to interpret the abend. The LE Programming Guide says: - init_sub creates a LE environment and sets the environment dormant so that exceptions are percolated out of it. - for call_sub, CEEPIPI activates the LE environment before the called routine is invoked, and after the called routine returns, the environment is dormant. It appears to me that LE is doing an incomplete job of ignoring/percolating abends that occur while outside of the LE environment. Does anyone know anything to the contrary? Thanks! -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507, gord.tom...@actionsoftware.com -- Don Poitras - zSeries R D - SAS Institute Inc. - SAS Campus Drive mailto:sas...@sas.com (919)531-5637 Fax:677- Cary, NC 27513 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of RETAIN
Hi Daniel, On quick look, I don't see a problem. Have you sent this problem to us at Innovation? We haven't seen it yet. Please submit the job and output to the support email for us to review at your convenience. Thanks, Joseph Butz jb...@fdrinnovation.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel McLaughlin Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Use of RETAIN Here is a short version of the job...and it croaks trying to open up the tape in the second part of the second step. We thought maybe it was a DD name conflict and changed the scheme for a test, same results...opened with IBM and will do the same with FDR folks. This job will be all generated by REXX to be dynamic. //TAPE1 DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.AIG002(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), // UNIT=(TAPE92,,DEFER), // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // LABEL=(1,SL,EXPDT=99000), // VOL=(,RETAIN) //DISK2 DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=DBPK23 //TAPE2 DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.DBPK23(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), // UNIT=(TAPE92,,DEFER), // LABEL=(2,SL,EXPDT=99000), // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // VOL=(PRIVATE,RETAIN,REF=*.TAPE1) //SYSIN DD DSN=PROD.PARMLIB(DR100),DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN1 DD SYSOUT=* //SYSDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //ABRMAP DD SYSOUT=* //* End of Step //DUMP2 EXEC PGM=FDR,REGION=8M //DISKA DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=DB0034 //TAPEA DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.DB0034(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // UNIT=(TAPE92,,DEFER), // LABEL=(3,SL,EXPDT=99000), // VOL=(,RETAIN,,,REF=*.DUMP1.TAPE1) //DISKB DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=DB0035 //TAPEB DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.DB0035(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE), // UNIT=(TAPE92,,DEFER), // LABEL=(4,SL,EXPDT=99000), // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // VOL=(,RETAIN,,,REF=*.DUMP1.TAPE1) //SYSIN DD DSN=PROD.PARMLIB(DR100),DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN1 DD SYSOUT=* //SYSDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //ABRMAP DD SYSOUT=* //NOTIFY EXEC PGM=WTOPGM,COND=((3,GT),EVEN), // PARM='JOB DRAIG001 BACKUP FAILED ON MVS' //NOTIFY EXEC PGM=WTOPGM,COND=(1,LT), // PARM='JOB DRAIG001 BACKUP SUCCESSFUL ON MVS' //* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CEEPIPI incorrect recovery processing?
Thanks Don, but my mission here is not how to get at the LE information in the dump, but rather to have LE's recovery routines entirely out of the way when an abend occurs outside of the LE environment. The LE Programming Guide says that when control is returned to the caller of CEEPIPI, the environment is set dormant so that exceptions are percolated out of it. While it does not explicitly say whether it will alter the abend information before percolating it, to me it seems like common sense that it would not. However, it is. I think this is a defect, but I just want to find out whether anyone knows of a good reason why this should be considered to be correct operation first. Don Poitras wrote: If you change to SYSMDUMP and use the IPCS command IP VERBX LEDATA 'ALL', you may be able to get a traceback and PSW/regs at time of ABEND. Gord Tomlin wrote: Just looking for input as to whether this is working as designed before I report it as a defect... If a program that uses CEEPIPI to call HLL subroutines abends while *not* in any of the HLL subroutines, LE recovery processes the abend and transforms a system abend into a LE user abend. Meanwhile, the associated dump is written to SYSUDUMP rather than CEEDUMP. This situation can be recreated by using the samples ASMPIPI and HLLPIPI from the LE Programming Guide, and adding the abend of your choice (I used EX 0,*) after the label TSUB in ASMPIPI. Instead of seeing a ABENDS0C3 in ASMPIPI, you will see a ABENDU4036-2 associated with CEEPLPKA. The only sign of the original abend is in the system trace table. Needless to say, LE's recovery routines have not made a positive contribution to locating the original problem. One of the requirements for a program that uses CEEPIPI to call LE-conforming HLL routines is that the calling routine *not* be a LE-conforming program, so it seems nonsensical on the surface that LE's recovery routines would try to interpret the abend. The LE Programming Guide says: - init_sub creates a LE environment and sets the environment dormant so that exceptions are percolated out of it. - for call_sub, CEEPIPI activates the LE environment before the called routine is invoked, and after the called routine returns, the environment is dormant. It appears to me that LE is doing an incomplete job of ignoring/percolating abends that occur while outside of the LE environment. Does anyone know anything to the contrary? Thanks! -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507, gord.tom...@actionsoftware.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Hiperbatch, Smartbatch, Dynamic Cache Management
Wondering if Hiperbatch, smartbatch, Dynamic Cache Management are still valid for improving performance with todays processors, DASD, OS etc... I don't think that we use any of these and are only now starting to look at SMB. Any feed back would be appreciated. And yes we are having performance problems. Actually, I think we are just maxing out our processor. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Internal Reader Problem
We have 3 LPARs in our sysplex all in the same MAS. All running z/OS 1.7. We have an anomaly we can't explain. When a job is submitted on System A, it is converted on system B. Due to the scheduling environment, the job executes and ABENDs on System A. Designating SYSAFF=A resolved the problem. Even though both systems have the same PROC name. The PROCs our different on each system. My conclusion, albeit uninformed, is that when the job was submitted on system A, all of the Conversion PCEs on System A were active and so a Conversion PCE on system B performed the conversion. Is there a way, besides an exit, to force a job without a SYSAFF designation to be converted on the same system that it was submitted on? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Internal Reader Problem
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:21:24 -0700, Mark Yuhas mark.yu...@paccar.com wrote: We have 3 LPARs in our sysplex all in the same MAS. All running z/OS 1.7. We have an anomaly we can't explain. When a job is submitted on System A, it is converted on system B. Due to the scheduling environment, the job executes and ABENDs on System A. Designating SYSAFF=A resolved the problem. Even though both systems have the same PROC name. The PROCs our different on each system. My conclusion, albeit uninformed, is that when the job was submitted on system A, all of the Conversion PCEs on System A were active and so a Conversion PCE on system B performed the conversion. Is there a way, besides an exit, to force a job without a SYSAFF designation to be converted on the same system that it was submitted on? You can update the INTRDR statement in the init deck or via operator command. If you share the init deck, you can use SYSNAME. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Internal Reader Problem
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:21:24 -0700, Mark Yuhas wrote: Even though both systems have the same PROC name. The PROCs our different on each system. ... Is there a way, besides an exit, to force a job without a SYSAFF designation to be converted on the same system that it was submitted on? Take a different approach: o Put identically named PROCs in different libraries and use the JCLLIB statement to select among them. That way, whichever behavior is desired is available on either system. o Or, just use different names for different PROCs. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CEEPIPI incorrect recovery processing?
Gord Tomlin wrote: Just looking for input as to whether this is working as designed before I report it as a defect... If a program that uses CEEPIPI to call HLL subroutines abends while *not* in any of the HLL subroutines, LE recovery processes the abend and transforms a system abend into a LE user abend. Meanwhile, the associated dump is written to SYSUDUMP rather than CEEDUMP. Let me understand a little better: 1. Your driver initializes an LE environment for running subroutines by calling CEEPIPI with a request code of 3 (init_sub) So I assume, for the moment, your PIPI table is set up correctly. [BTW, is this new behavior for you? Was it working before and now it acts differently? Or is this your first time through the PIPI process?] 2. You call your subroutine by calling CEEPIPI with a request code of 4 (run_sub) and it presumably runs OK 3. You call one or more additional subroutines (or your first subroutine again) at some time during this process, between two calls of subroutines from your PIPI table, your driver abends and gets an LE UCC Is that about right? This situation can be recreated by using the samples ASMPIPI and HLLPIPI from the LE Programming Guide, and adding the abend of your choice (I used EX 0,*) after the label TSUB in ASMPIPI. Instead of seeing a ABENDS0C3 in ASMPIPI, you will see a ABENDU4036-2 associated with CEEPLPKA. The only sign of the original abend is in the system trace table. Needless to say, LE's recovery routines have not made a positive contribution to locating the original problem. One of the requirements for a program that uses CEEPIPI to call LE-conforming HLL routines is that the calling routine *not* be a LE-conforming program, so it seems nonsensical on the surface that LE's recovery routines would try to interpret the abend. The LE Programming Guide says: - init_sub creates a LE environment and sets the environment dormant so that exceptions are percolated out of it. - for call_sub, CEEPIPI activates the LE environment before the called routine is invoked, and after the called routine returns, the environment is dormant. It appears to me that LE is doing an incomplete job of ignoring/percolating abends that occur while outside of the LE environment. Does anyone know anything to the contrary? Thanks! -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: file integrity verified - do I care?
In jhkka59q0bavje123mfp9mp5cgdnmhm...@4ax.com, on 09/11/2009 at 07:37 AM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu said: So how do you use it? What do you do differently when you get a 97 than when you get a 00? Depending on the application, I might put out a message saying to reconstruct from logs. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
In a30a9f528e618748a8ef5199e80c4a1c69a...@wkpp1infmb03.cbsh.com, on 09/11/2009 at 02:00 PM, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com said: Subject: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed Using RFC 1149? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: $HASP050 JES2 RESOURCE SHORTAGE OF BUFX - 0% UTILIZATION REACHED
In lkkka5lk61hs8pbmnvs4c43gc80bnff...@4ax.com, on 09/11/2009 at 07:39 AM, Howard Brazee howard.bra...@cusys.edu said: I also once wrote a check out using mills, when the calculation indicated I should do so, and there were no instructions on how to round. It may be legal tender, but they couldn't handle it. The intent isn't to make an extraneous payment; the intent is to forcibly bring it to the attention of somebody in a position to get it fixed. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
In 4aa9651c.4010...@ync.net, on 09/10/2009 at 03:44 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net said: Which is more effieient for CLIST/REXX libraries? the choices are RECFM=FB, LRECL=255 or RECFM=FB,LRECL=80? If you can't use RECFM=VB, then use the smallest LRECL that your code will fit into. Matching LRECL to your ISPF display width makes editing easier, which may be more important than efficiency. If you need to have existing libraries in SYSEXEC or SYSPROC then keep RECFM and LRECL consistent with what they will be concatenated into; it's not efficient if it doesn't work ;-) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
In 32208482.1252616974481.javamail.r...@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net, on 09/10/2009 at 05:09 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: I think the Lrecl80 came from the punch card days. The people I worked with back in 1980 preferred the 80 byte record because they came from punch cards. Well, I started with EAM cards and I prefer RECFM=VB, LRECL=255. I do not recall when we were able to go from the 24x80 screen to mod3/mod4/mod5. The 3278-5 and the 3290 have been around for about three decades. With the advances of screen szie (162x??) I don't recall anything with that size; the 3290 was a maximum of 160 across. Of course, you can always define custom screen sizes in your 3270 simulator, but then you can do substantially more than 162 across. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
In 6134cdf9e3c17546be1c9d525bdeef95f07eebe...@hqmail.rocketsoftware.com, on 09/10/2009 at 06:04 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com said: With VLF, it pretty much doesn't matter. For SYSPROC; it does for SYSEXEC. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
In dc74548a025aff4a85f46926802a9b2303723...@chsa1035.share.beluni.net, on 09/11/2009 at 08:24 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com said: Interesting that you can see 80 characters in the 72 positions the ISPF editor has to display the data ;-) It would have been had he made such a claim; he didn't. ISPF/PDF EDIT uses only six columns for sequence numbers and does not display the change level unless you shift into the sequence field. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
In db9405830909102240xade49f9o9adc503905547...@mail.gmail.com, on 09/11/2009 at 03:40 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com said: So many times have novices asked me why their REXX was failing and it was sequence numbers in 73-80. Can still happen for VB 255 No; for RECFM=VB the sequence numbers are on the left. However, the RENUM command used to be BAD for unnumbered RECFM=VB. Have they fixed it to shift the data right 8 columns before plugging in sequence numbers? It should be 133 anyway, makes coding for my 1403 line printer a cinch :) Why not 145 for the 1443 or 242 for the 3800? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Internal Reader Problem
I didn't think you could put it on the INTRDR statement, but I've been using $T INTRDR,SYSAFF=* in the init deck for decades, no need for a system symbol ;-) Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com 9/14/2009 4:36 PM On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:21:24 -0700, Mark Yuhas mark.yu...@paccar.com wrote: You can update the INTRDR statement in the init deck or via operator command. If you share the init deck, you can use SYSNAME. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CEEPIPI incorrect recovery processing?
Hi Steve, You're close! I'll go through your points in order: 1. Correct. CEEPIPI is called with request code 3 (init_sub). The PIPI table is set up correctly. For the demonstration case (IBM's sample to keep things simple) I took a working program and added an intentional ABENDS0C3. For your supplementary questions, I decided to create this demonstration case when I saw LE presenting user abends for system abends that occurred outside of the LE environment. We are in the process of developing an application that is making use of CEEPIPI, and on the happy path everything works fine. As for the treatment of abends outside the LE environment, this is not changed behavior. However, that does not automatically mean it is correct behavior. 2. Correct. CEEPIPI is called with request 4 (call_sub), and the called subroutine runs OK. 3. Correct. The abend occurs between two calls to CEEPIPI. Note, however, that it is not necessary to call any subroutines to get this situation. If the driver program abends after receiving control back from CEEPIPI after the init_sub call, the abend information will still be altered by LE's recovery routines. Regards, Gord Tomlin Steve Comstock wrote: Gord Tomlin wrote: Just looking for input as to whether this is working as designed before I report it as a defect... If a program that uses CEEPIPI to call HLL subroutines abends while *not* in any of the HLL subroutines, LE recovery processes the abend and transforms a system abend into a LE user abend. Meanwhile, the associated dump is written to SYSUDUMP rather than CEEDUMP. Let me understand a little better: 1. Your driver initializes an LE environment for running subroutines by calling CEEPIPI with a request code of 3 (init_sub) So I assume, for the moment, your PIPI table is set up correctly. [BTW, is this new behavior for you? Was it working before and now it acts differently? Or is this your first time through the PIPI process?] 2. You call your subroutine by calling CEEPIPI with a request code of 4 (run_sub) and it presumably runs OK 3. You call one or more additional subroutines (or your first subroutine again) at some time during this process, between two calls of subroutines from your PIPI table, your driver abends and gets an LE UCC Is that about right? This situation can be recreated by using the samples ASMPIPI and HLLPIPI from the LE Programming Guide, and adding the abend of your choice (I used EX 0,*) after the label TSUB in ASMPIPI. Instead of seeing a ABENDS0C3 in ASMPIPI, you will see a ABENDU4036-2 associated with CEEPLPKA. The only sign of the original abend is in the system trace table. Needless to say, LE's recovery routines have not made a positive contribution to locating the original problem. One of the requirements for a program that uses CEEPIPI to call LE-conforming HLL routines is that the calling routine *not* be a LE-conforming program, so it seems nonsensical on the surface that LE's recovery routines would try to interpret the abend. The LE Programming Guide says: - init_sub creates a LE environment and sets the environment dormant so that exceptions are percolated out of it. - for call_sub, CEEPIPI activates the LE environment before the called routine is invoked, and after the called routine returns, the environment is dormant. It appears to me that LE is doing an incomplete job of ignoring/percolating abends that occur while outside of the LE environment. Does anyone know anything to the contrary? Thanks! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
TCB Address
Hello all. I'm asking about how to obtain current TCB address in an assembly pgm. Any help will be appreciated; thanks in advance. __ Raúl Daniel Digestani Bco. Santander Río S.A. CC 011 - Desarrollo de Sistemas II Gral. Hornos 238 - Piso 3 - Buenos Aires Tel. (54 11) 4137-4242 / 5030-4242 rdigest...@santanderrio.com.ar * Visite http://www.santanderrio.com.ar y tenga el Banco al alcance de su mano. * NOTA DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD / CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE Este mensaje (y sus anexos) es confidencial y puede contener información (i) de propiedad exclusiva de Banco Santander Rio S.A. sus afiliadas o subsidiarias; o (ii) amparada por el secreto profesional. Si usted ha recibido este fax o e-mail por error, por favor comuníquelo inmediatamente vía fax o e-mail y tenga la amabilidad de destruirlo; no debera copiar el mensaje ni divulgar su contenido a ninguna persona. Muchas gracias. This message (including attachments) is confidential. It may also contain information that (i) is exclusively property of Banco Santander Rio S.A. or its affiliates or subsidiaries; or (ii) is privileged or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by fax or e-mail immediately and destroy or delete it from your files or system; you should also not copy the message nor disclose its contents to anyone. Thank you. *
Re: TCB Address
The field PSATOLD in the PSA contains the address of the TCB of the active task. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Internet-enable your applications with z/Ware V2 Voice: 214-800-8900 X#5562 -- This e-mail is private and may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. If misdirected, please notify us by telephone and confirm that it has been deleted from your system and any copies destroyed. If you are not the intended recipient you are strictly prohibited from using, printing, copying, distributing or disseminating this e-mail or any information contained in it. We use reasonable measures to virus scan all E-mails leaving illustro but no warranty is given that this E-mail and any attachments are virus free. You should ensure you have adequate measures in place for your own virus checking. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Digestani, Raul Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: TCB Address Hello all. I'm asking about how to obtain current TCB address in an assembly pgm. Any help will be appreciated; thanks in advance. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TCB Address
how to obtain current TCB address in an assembly pgm. USING PSA,0 PSA addressability L R3,PSATOLD - Current TCB USING TCB,R3 TCB addressability ... IHAPSA LIST=NOPSA DSECT IKJTCB LIST=NOTCB DSECT -- WB -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CEEPIPI incorrect recovery processing?
Gord Tomlin wrote: Hi Steve, You're close! I'll go through your points in order: 1. Correct. CEEPIPI is called with request code 3 (init_sub). The PIPI table is set up correctly. For the demonstration case (IBM's sample to keep things simple) I took a working program and added an intentional ABENDS0C3. For your supplementary questions, I decided to create this demonstration case when I saw LE presenting user abends for system abends that occurred outside of the LE environment. We are in the process of developing an application that is making use of CEEPIPI, and on the happy path everything works fine. As for the treatment of abends outside the LE environment, this is not changed behavior. However, that does not automatically mean it is correct behavior. 2. Correct. CEEPIPI is called with request 4 (call_sub), and the called subroutine runs OK. 3. Correct. The abend occurs between two calls to CEEPIPI. Note, however, that it is not necessary to call any subroutines to get this situation. If the driver program abends after receiving control back from CEEPIPI after the init_sub call, the abend information will still be altered by LE's recovery routines. Regards, Gord Tomlin Well, I was going to try the sample code but I'm having a devil of a time cutting-and-pasting from the pdf to a source member. Can you send me your source (offlist, if you wish) to same me some time on this? [I got the hllpipi done, just need the driver to test and experiment with.] -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: stop-x37 type of function in SMS
On 2009-09-11 at 16:14, concerning stop-x37 type of function in SMS, jam...gr...@efir...com wrote to IBM-Main: While at SARE a couple weeks ago my manager was told by an IBM'er that SMS could handle space abends like a STOP-X37 product. Has anyone heard this and if so how is it implemented? Jim: I've been using something similar for several years now. Check out the concept 'Overflow Storage Group' as well as 'Extend Storage Group'. In short, I created a StorGrp (appropriately named SPILL) with empty volumes for overflow. The volumes are Enabled but the StorGrp is Quiesced. In your StorGrp ACS routine, append the SPILL group to all SET STORGRP= statements that you want protected. (there might be reasons not to) The volumes in a Quiesced StorGrp are less preferred than volumes in a normal pool. I also like to have a quiesced volume (or 3) in each pool which is preferred over the Quiesced StorGrp. If datasets end up in the overflow pool on a regular basis, the primary pool likely needs more volumes. Read SMS Volume selection for Data Set allocation in the Storage Admin Reference manual (mine's SC26-7402- 01) for a blow-by-blow description. Other aids, that I can think of, require the use of a DataClas; specifically the 'Space Constraint Relief', 'Dynamic Volume Count' and, potentially, the 'Extended Format/Addressing' attributes. I'll let you investigate. -- signature = 6 lines follows -- Neil Duffee, Joe SysProg, U d'Ottawa, Ottawa, Ont, Canada telephone:1 613 562 5800 x4585 fax:1 613 562 5161 mailto:NDuffee of uOttawa.ca http:/ /aix1.uottawa.ca/ ~nduffee How *do* you plan for something like that? Guardian Bob, Reboot For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism. Systems Programming: Guilty, until proven innocent John Norgauer 2004 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CEEPIPI incorrect recovery processing?
I agree, the cut-and-paste out of the PDF is painful. I've sent you ASMPIPI off list. You already have HLLPIPI. Steve Comstock wrote: Gord Tomlin wrote: Hi Steve, You're close! I'll go through your points in order: 1. Correct. CEEPIPI is called with request code 3 (init_sub). The PIPI table is set up correctly. For the demonstration case (IBM's sample to keep things simple) I took a working program and added an intentional ABENDS0C3. For your supplementary questions, I decided to create this demonstration case when I saw LE presenting user abends for system abends that occurred outside of the LE environment. We are in the process of developing an application that is making use of CEEPIPI, and on the happy path everything works fine. As for the treatment of abends outside the LE environment, this is not changed behavior. However, that does not automatically mean it is correct behavior. 2. Correct. CEEPIPI is called with request 4 (call_sub), and the called subroutine runs OK. 3. Correct. The abend occurs between two calls to CEEPIPI. Note, however, that it is not necessary to call any subroutines to get this situation. If the driver program abends after receiving control back from CEEPIPI after the init_sub call, the abend information will still be altered by LE's recovery routines. Regards, Gord Tomlin Well, I was going to try the sample code but I'm having a devil of a time cutting-and-pasting from the pdf to a source member. Can you send me your source (offlist, if you wish) to same me some time on this? [I got the hllpipi done, just need the driver to test and experiment with.] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CEEPIPI incorrect recovery processing?
Gord Tomlin wrote: Hi Steve, You're close! I'll go through your points in order: 1. Correct. CEEPIPI is called with request code 3 (init_sub). The PIPI table is set up correctly. For the demonstration case (IBM's sample to keep things simple) I took a working program and added an intentional ABENDS0C3. For your supplementary questions, I decided to create this demonstration case when I saw LE presenting user abends for system abends that occurred outside of the LE environment. We are in the process of developing an application that is making use of CEEPIPI, and on the happy path everything works fine. As for the treatment of abends outside the LE environment, this is not changed behavior. However, that does not automatically mean it is correct behavior. 2. Correct. CEEPIPI is called with request 4 (call_sub), and the called subroutine runs OK. 3. Correct. The abend occurs between two calls to CEEPIPI. Note, however, that it is not necessary to call any subroutines to get this situation. If the driver program abends after receiving control back from CEEPIPI after the init_sub call, the abend information will still be altered by LE's recovery routines. Regards, Gord Tomlin Steve Comstock wrote: Gord Tomlin wrote: Just looking for input as to whether this is working as designed before I report it as a defect... If a program that uses CEEPIPI to call HLL subroutines abends while *not* in any of the HLL subroutines, LE recovery processes the abend and transforms a system abend into a LE user abend. Meanwhile, the associated dump is written to SYSUDUMP rather than CEEDUMP. Let me understand a little better: 1. Your driver initializes an LE environment for running subroutines by calling CEEPIPI with a request code of 3 (init_sub) So I assume, for the moment, your PIPI table is set up correctly. [BTW, is this new behavior for you? Was it working before and now it acts differently? Or is this your first time through the PIPI process?] 2. You call your subroutine by calling CEEPIPI with a request code of 4 (run_sub) and it presumably runs OK 3. You call one or more additional subroutines (or your first subroutine again) at some time during this process, between two calls of subroutines from your PIPI table, your driver abends and gets an LE UCC Is that about right? This situation can be recreated by using the samples ASMPIPI and HLLPIPI from the LE Programming Guide, and adding the abend of your choice (I used EX 0,*) after the label TSUB in ASMPIPI. Instead of seeing a ABENDS0C3 in ASMPIPI, you will see a ABENDU4036-2 associated with CEEPLPKA. The only sign of the original abend is in the system trace table. Needless to say, LE's recovery routines have not made a positive contribution to locating the original problem. One of the requirements for a program that uses CEEPIPI to call LE-conforming HLL routines is that the calling routine *not* be a LE-conforming program, so it seems nonsensical on the surface that LE's recovery routines would try to interpret the abend. The LE Programming Guide says: - init_sub creates a LE environment and sets the environment dormant so that exceptions are percolated out of it. - for call_sub, CEEPIPI activates the LE environment before the called routine is invoked, and after the called routine returns, the environment is dormant. It appears to me that LE is doing an incomplete job of ignoring/percolating abends that occur while outside of the LE environment. Does anyone know anything to the contrary? Thanks! OK, I recreated your sample. But I think you're not being correct in your testing. You said to induce an ABEND after the label TSUB; but this is the point where the termination of the LE environment occurs. So you are introducing an abend before turning off LE, if you will. If you move your abend instruction to after the symbol DONE you get a standard z/OS (MVS) ABEND. I think the error is misunderstanding the environment is dormant; it means, essentially, unused but available. If an error occurs before you do a term request, you still have an LE environment present. If you will be doing multiple calls of one subroutine, or of many subroutines consecutively, either do a term after each call_sub and an init_sub before each call; or, start with a init_sub_dp, then a start_seq, then all the call_sub's you need, then an end_seq, then a term. And remember, if you will be doing multiple calls of a routine, that routine should be RENT. Hope this helps. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being
Re: CEEPIPI incorrect recovery processing?
Definitely, the key item is the meaning of dormant. Clearly, the environment exists until it is destroyed by the term call. The question is what should happen when the environment exists but is dormant. IBM states in the description of init_sub that it sets the environment dormant so that exceptions are percolated out of it. The issue is whether it is correct for the LE recovery routines to alter the abend information for an abend that occurs while the environment is dormant. Since it is a documented that callers of CEEPIPI not be LE compliant, it is illogical for LE to alter the abend information for an abend that occurs in this non LE-compliant environment. The idea of terminating the environment after every subroutine eliminates one of the main benefits of using CEEPIPI, that being the avoidance of the overhead of creating and destroying the LE environment around every subroutine call. Steve Comstock wrote: Gord Tomlin wrote: Hi Steve, You're close! I'll go through your points in order: 1. Correct. CEEPIPI is called with request code 3 (init_sub). The PIPI table is set up correctly. For the demonstration case (IBM's sample to keep things simple) I took a working program and added an intentional ABENDS0C3. For your supplementary questions, I decided to create this demonstration case when I saw LE presenting user abends for system abends that occurred outside of the LE environment. We are in the process of developing an application that is making use of CEEPIPI, and on the happy path everything works fine. As for the treatment of abends outside the LE environment, this is not changed behavior. However, that does not automatically mean it is correct behavior. 2. Correct. CEEPIPI is called with request 4 (call_sub), and the called subroutine runs OK. 3. Correct. The abend occurs between two calls to CEEPIPI. Note, however, that it is not necessary to call any subroutines to get this situation. If the driver program abends after receiving control back from CEEPIPI after the init_sub call, the abend information will still be altered by LE's recovery routines. Regards, Gord Tomlin Steve Comstock wrote: Gord Tomlin wrote: Just looking for input as to whether this is working as designed before I report it as a defect... If a program that uses CEEPIPI to call HLL subroutines abends while *not* in any of the HLL subroutines, LE recovery processes the abend and transforms a system abend into a LE user abend. Meanwhile, the associated dump is written to SYSUDUMP rather than CEEDUMP. Let me understand a little better: 1. Your driver initializes an LE environment for running subroutines by calling CEEPIPI with a request code of 3 (init_sub) So I assume, for the moment, your PIPI table is set up correctly. [BTW, is this new behavior for you? Was it working before and now it acts differently? Or is this your first time through the PIPI process?] 2. You call your subroutine by calling CEEPIPI with a request code of 4 (run_sub) and it presumably runs OK 3. You call one or more additional subroutines (or your first subroutine again) at some time during this process, between two calls of subroutines from your PIPI table, your driver abends and gets an LE UCC Is that about right? This situation can be recreated by using the samples ASMPIPI and HLLPIPI from the LE Programming Guide, and adding the abend of your choice (I used EX 0,*) after the label TSUB in ASMPIPI. Instead of seeing a ABENDS0C3 in ASMPIPI, you will see a ABENDU4036-2 associated with CEEPLPKA. The only sign of the original abend is in the system trace table. Needless to say, LE's recovery routines have not made a positive contribution to locating the original problem. One of the requirements for a program that uses CEEPIPI to call LE-conforming HLL routines is that the calling routine *not* be a LE-conforming program, so it seems nonsensical on the surface that LE's recovery routines would try to interpret the abend. The LE Programming Guide says: - init_sub creates a LE environment and sets the environment dormant so that exceptions are percolated out of it. - for call_sub, CEEPIPI activates the LE environment before the called routine is invoked, and after the called routine returns, the environment is dormant. It appears to me that LE is doing an incomplete job of ignoring/percolating abends that occur while outside of the LE environment. Does anyone know anything to the contrary? Thanks! OK, I recreated your sample. But I think you're not being correct in your testing. You said to induce an ABEND after the label TSUB; but this is the point where the termination of the LE environment occurs. So you are introducing an abend before turning off LE, if you will. If you move your abend instruction to after the symbol DONE you get a standard z/OS (MVS) ABEND. I think the error is misunderstanding the environment is dormant; it
Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment
On 14 Sep 2009 07:38:40 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Thompson, Steve wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Andreas F. Geissbuehler Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [turnkey-mvs] turnkey mvs and cobol/jcl environment SNIP I second Jo on this and URGE YOU to continue with herc and MVS 3.8j, even Assembler 370, but forget COBOL. You need to master current, modern COBOL which you can accomplish short-term by visiting Prof. Don Higgin's website at www.z390.org. Don's Java-based zASM and zCOBOL at www.zcobol.org are modern, state-of-the-art implementation which I recomend you should evaluate and consider to use, instead of, in addition to and/or in combination with TK3. SNIP Assuming he is running a M/S product, he can probably get one of the COBOL books with a COBOL CD in it. Fujitsu's COBOL runs nicely on NT, and W2K (with a few tweeks). I haven't tried it under XP. The use of the FCOBOL under MVS3.8 or the equivalent under DOS (R34?), will teach COBOL basics. The PC based compilers will take that source (at least the Fujitsu one will) and produce working code under Winders. So the question is, where did OS/2 and a M/F compatible COBOL go? Why do people use Realia (do they still exist?) to do COBOL development on a PC and then upload the source to a M/F? [Same for the Fujitsu system.] It is because of IBM Marketing's view of the world. Regards, Steve Thompson Marketing, probably. The current COBOL developers have been pushing the edge of modernity constantly. Now, So explain why in 2009 Enterprise COBOL STILL can not recognize binary character, IEEE binary floating point and decimal floating point (the latter pushed by Mike Cowlishaw of REXX fame) despite SHARE requirements and despite C/C++ being able to do so. We have LE to encourage inter-language communication yet COBOL doesn't recognize some basic data types despite them finally making it into the standard in 2002 (except for decimal floating point which is being discussed). Then there is the mind numbing idea that COBOL will ignore IEEE binary floating point and define the 2002 standard floating point types as decimal floating point. The whole situation arouses the vitriolic instincts and inclinations toward bitter sarcasm in me. If I weren't semi-retired (collecting pensions but willing to take contracts), I might pursue this more actively. Oh yes, I understand there are OO classes in CICS that C/C++ can use but I doubt they are available to COBOL. Talk about lack of strategy. Clark Morris -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Hiperbatch, Smartbatch, Dynamic Cache Management
For DCME, have a look at Ron Hawkins' recent post: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0909L=ibm-mainP=R37609I=1X=- If you are batch-constrained, the old Red Book: System/390 MVS Parallel Sysplex Batch Performance - SG24-2557-00 has many pointers still valid in even non-sysplexed environments. Our own experiences focus on job scheduling, and stringent reviews of DB2 application and subsystem performance. FWIW... John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of gsg Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 2:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Hiperbatch, Smartbatch, Dynamic Cache Management Wondering if Hiperbatch, smartbatch, Dynamic Cache Management are still valid for improving performance with todays processors, DASD, OS etc... I don't think that we use any of these and are only now starting to look at SMB. Any feed back would be appreciated. And yes we are having performance problems. Actually, I think we are just maxing out our processor. Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information transmitted is intended only for the addressee and may contain confidential, proprietary and/or privileged material. Any unauthorized review, distribution or other use of or the taking of any action in reliance upon this information is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy this message and any copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
