Re: Sclm / PDSE
On 4/4/2012 11:32 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: I was actually trying to break a PDSE last week, so that I could get an example of the IEBPDSE utility run against a hosed PDSE, and I couldn't seem to break one. I have two sysplexes so I was randomly back and forth updating from outside the sysplex, and it had no trouble at all. Does anyone have a fool proof way to break a pdse, on 1.13? You must live right. Almost every time I've accidentally updated a PDSE from outside the sysplex it has been immediately broken. I suggest you do concurrent ISPF 3.3 copy members to the target PDSE and/or LKEDs while also doing copy. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm / PDSE
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:48:03 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 4/4/2012 11:32 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: I was actually trying to break a PDSE last week, so that I could get an example of the IEBPDSE utility run against a hosed PDSE, and I couldn't seem to break one. I have two sysplexes so I was randomly back and forth updating from outside the sysplex, and it had no trouble at all. Does anyone have a fool proof way to break a pdse, on 1.13? You must live right. Almost every time I've accidentally updated a PDSE from outside the sysplex it has been immediately broken. LOL. I'm with Ed on this one. Holy mackerel, someone who _can't_ break PDSE. Mary, I'd expect some invitations from IBM to be a reference site in future ... :0) Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm / PDSE
Edward Jaffe wrote: On 4/4/2012 11:32 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: I was actually trying to break a PDSE last week, so that I could get an example of the IEBPDSE utility run against a hosed PDSE, and I couldn't seem to break one. I have two sysplexes so I was randomly back and forth updating from outside the sysplex, and it had no trouble at all. Does anyone have a fool proof way to break a pdse, on 1.13? You must live right. Almost every time I've accidentally updated a PDSE from outside the sysplex it has been immediately broken. I suggest you do concurrent ISPF 3.3 copy members to the target PDSE and/or LKEDs while also doing copy. Edward is right. I would humbly also suggest that your volumes are shared so no enqueue can take place at all. Or at least, ensure nothing is keeping these updates in a single row, but allow them to occur simultaneausly. You could try to submit all those jobs with TYPRUN=HOLD and then when ready, release ALL of them. If you can't still break 'em, you certainly must be in a paradise... ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm / PDSE
You must live right. Almost every time I've accidentally updated a PDSE from outside the sysplex it has been immediately broken. I suggest you do concurrent ISPF 3.3 copy members to the target PDSE and/or LKEDs while also doing copy. @Edward, Mim is preventing me from updating them concurrently. I didn't think it needed to be concurrent. From the tales of my coworkers prior to my arrival, simply any update outside of the sysplex that is using the dataset (like in linklist) would corrupt the PDSE. @Shane ;) @Elardus They are being serialized. We're attempting to get around that now. MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm / PDSE
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 04:40:58 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Edward Jaffe wrote: On 4/4/2012 11:32 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: I was actually trying to break a PDSE last week, so that I could get an example of the IEBPDSE utility run against a hosed PDSE, and I couldn't seem to break one. I have two sysplexes so I was randomly back and forth updating from outside the sysplex, and it had no trouble at all. Does anyone have a fool proof way to break a pdse, on 1.13? You must live right. Almost every time I've accidentally updated a PDSE from outside the sysplex it has been immediately broken. I suggest you do concurrent ISPF 3.3 copy members to the target PDSE and/or LKEDs while also doing copy. Edward is right. I would humbly also suggest that your volumes are shared so no enqueue can take place at all. Or at least, ensure nothing is keeping these updates in a single row, but allow them to occur simultaneausly. You could try to submit all those jobs with TYPRUN=HOLD and then when ready, release ALL of them. If you can't still break 'em, you certainly must be in a paradise... ;-D I've run into various issues in the past because my client shares DASD between 2 sysplexes via MIM (MII) and of course that does nothing for PDSE since XCF is used to communicate the changes.Most everyone knows the rules, but with new faces around occasionally someone puts a development PDSE on a non-sms volume (the SMS pools aren't shared) into some QA CICS region on the production plex (just an example) and there are abends after someone makes an update. These haven't broken the PDSE(s) involved and if you remove all the binds (shutdown any asids using the PDSE) that has resolved the problem. This hadn't happened in at least a few years until last week. The SMS rules usually prevent it - until a technical someone knows better and allocates the PDSE on a non-sms volume by specifying the secret STORCLAS (only certain people are allowed to do this in the ACS routines). Anyway, where I'm going with this story is this recent APAR that closed and I'm wondering if it will fix this sort of sharing violation. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA38306 OA38306: PDSE INDEX REDRIVE NOT BEING INVOKED ON ABEND0F4 RC24 RSN145AA033 FAILURES RSN2402C021 RSN145AC021 RSNS_REDRIVE_NEEDED APAR statusClosed as program error. Error descriptionPDSE index redrive processing is not occurring for RSN145AA033 IGWISRCH_INDEX_PAGE_DAMAGED PDSE index read failures resulting in an 0F4 dump with reason code RSN2402C021 RSNS_REDRIVE_NEEDED or RSN145AC021 RSNS_REDRIVE_NEEDED ( 2402C021 145AC021 ) . Index redrive should be attempted with RSN145AA033 as this reason code can indicate a error in the cached copy of the PDSE index page. Index redrive processing will flush the cached index pages and reread read the index from DASD. The failing read will then be redriven against the refreshed index pages. Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm / PDSE
Just an update Re breaking PDSE's, I was successful. :) It seems to take adding and deleting members versus just updating members. I ran two iebcopy's on different sysplexes to copy members in, then deleted members from both sysplexes, and it was broken, and recreatable. IEBPDSE, however, won't run against it. It abends 0F4. So that defeats the purpose of my quest. :) SMSPDSE1 eventually took the same dump. MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm / PDSE
- Original Message - From: Mary Anne Matyaz [mailto:maryanne4...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sclm / PDSE Just an update Re breaking PDSE's, I was successful. :) It seems to take adding and deleting members versus just updating members. I ran two iebcopy's on different sysplexes to copy members in, then deleted members from both sysplexes, and it was broken, and recreatable. IEBPDSE, however, won't run against it. It abends 0F4. So that defeats the purpose of my quest. :) SMSPDSE1 eventually took the same dump. MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm / PDSE
Not sure, but it might be helpful to insure system parmlib member igdsms00 is set to PDSESHARING(EXTENDED) on all systems. The default used to be PDSESHARING(NORMAL). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sclm / PDSE Just an update Re breaking PDSE's, I was successful. :) It seems to take adding and deleting members versus just updating members. I ran two iebcopy's on different sysplexes to copy members in, then deleted members from both sysplexes, and it was broken, and recreatable. IEBPDSE, however, won't run against it. It abends 0F4. So that defeats the purpose of my quest. :) SMSPDSE1 eventually took the same dump. MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm / PDSE
Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Just an update Re breaking PDSE's, I was successful. :) It seems to take adding and deleting members versus just updating members. I ran two iebcopy's on different sysplexes to copy members in, then deleted members from both sysplexes, and it was broken, and recreatable. IEBPDSE, however, won't run against it. It abends 0F4. So that defeats the purpose of my quest. :) SMSPDSE1 eventually took the same dump. MA Any chance this is OA36228? RC10 PSY UA60472 UP11/07/19 RD10 PSN UA60473 UP11/07/19 -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm / PDSE
RD10 PSN UA60473 UP11/07/19 I have this one on John, but the other one looks promising, and I can get it on a system by Wednesday, perhaps sooner. Thanks! MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm
In 01603f1f82627443b414e03a63011f7899feaf1...@exmbx03-cms.corp.avisbudget.com, on 04/04/2012 at 01:49 PM, Stocker, Herman herman.stoc...@avisbudget.com said: To your question are there any got Chas - tons. I'm not aware of any source control system without gotchas, including doing it manually. The real question is whether SCLM has more gotchas than the alternatives. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Sclm
All, I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products. Since we are 'pure' development ,I thought we might be a good candidate for the Product. I have downloaded the IBM Redbook and i am reviewing it. My question is does anyone have exposure to SCLM and are there any gotchas? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm
Good Luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Sclm All, I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products. Since we are 'pure' development ,I thought we might be a good candidate for the Product. I have downloaded the IBM Redbook and i am reviewing it. My question is does anyone have exposure to SCLM and are there any gotchas? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm
Hi Scott, We converted from CA Endevor to SCLM back in July 2011. After the initial learning, about a month or two, we have not seen any problems. If this is your first source control system there will be a large learning curve. However, in the end you will have less errors more free time to be more productive. To your question are there any got Chas - tons. I would suggest that you contract with IBM or an OEM vendor to help set up you initial system. They will help you over the bumps. Good luck. Regards, Herman Stocker It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because fools are so ingenious. -- Robert Heinlein -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Sclm All, I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products. Since we are 'pure' development ,I thought we might be a good candidate for the Product. I have downloaded the IBM Redbook and i am reviewing it. My question is does anyone have exposure to SCLM and are there any gotchas? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --- The sender believes that this E-mail and any attachments were free of any virus, worm, Trojan horse, and/or malicious code when sent. This message and its attachments could have been infected during transmission. By reading the message and opening any attachments, the recipient accepts full responsibility for taking protective and remedial action about viruses and other defects. The sender's employer is not liable for any loss or damage arising in any way from this message or its attachments. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm
We use the base (free) product for source only - we never could figure out how to do C compiles. I'd suggest the full product and some expert help in getting you going. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Sclm All, I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products. Since we are 'pure' development ,I thought we might be a good candidate for the Product. I have downloaded the IBM Redbook and i am reviewing it. My question is does anyone have exposure to SCLM and are there any gotchas? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm
We've been using it for two or three years. Our only issue is that it requires PDSEs, which, until last month, broke frequently. Tom - Original Message - From: Hal Merritt [mailto:hmerr...@jackhenry.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 01:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sclm We use the base (free) product for source only - we never could figure out how to do C compiles. I'd suggest the full product and some expert help in getting you going. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Sclm All, I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products. Since we are 'pure' development ,I thought we might be a good candidate for the Product. I have downloaded the IBM Redbook and i am reviewing it. My question is does anyone have exposure to SCLM and are there any gotchas? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm
You might want to join the SCLM newsgroup. Lizette -Original Message- From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com Sent: Apr 4, 2012 10:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Sclm All, I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products. Since we are 'pure' development ,I thought we might be a good candidate for the Product. I have downloaded the IBM Redbook and i am reviewing it. My question is does anyone have exposure to SCLM and are there any gotchas? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm
Thanks for reminding me! Yes - we saw this trying to use SCLM on two LPAR's. Most all the issues went away when we channeled everyone to one LPAR. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Harper Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sclm We've been using it for two or three years. Our only issue is that it requires PDSEs, which, until last month, broke frequently. Tom - Original Message - From: Hal Merritt [mailto:hmerr...@jackhenry.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 01:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sclm We use the base (free) product for source only - we never could figure out how to do C compiles. I'd suggest the full product and some expert help in getting you going. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Sclm All, I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products. Since we are 'pure' development ,I thought we might be a good candidate for the Product. I have downloaded the IBM Redbook and i am reviewing it. My question is does anyone have exposure to SCLM and are there any gotchas? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm / PDSE
Tom Harper wrote: Our only issue is that it requires PDSEs, which, until last month, broke frequently. I was actually trying to break a PDSE last week, so that I could get an example of the IEBPDSE utility run against a hosed PDSE, and I couldn't seem to break one. I have two sysplexes so I was randomly back and forth updating from outside the sysplex, and it had no trouble at all. Does anyone have a fool proof way to break a pdse, on 1.13? Thanks! MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm
We use the h*ll out of SCLM. Unfortunately I'm no expert on it, but we do have a very good one in-house. We even used it for distributed stuff (java, etc.) w/ BREEZE CLOUD9 and our change control system (for things besides software updates). We do have a C language environment on the mainframe, that works, as far as I know. I'm told that PDSE's are only required for program objects, but we did convert all (or most) of the PDSes, due to their advantages and the sizes of our libraries. We also run EAC (Extended Access Control), a nice security add-on to SCLM from Fundi Software (an IBM business partner). We have integrated our SCLM promote process with our in-house software inventory system (via exits), so that SCLM will not allow a promote of any archdef that contains a non-inventoried item (program, dataset, control card, proc, execution JCL, etc.) I second the idea of getting expert help, but you can't have mine, even though he lives in Cumming. ;-) It's not a simple product (at least the way we use it) but it works very well for us. b/t/w Scott, I think I drive by your company HQ every day I go work... Randy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Sclm All, I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products. Since we are 'pure' development ,I thought we might be a good candidate for the Product. I have downloaded the IBM Redbook and i am reviewing it. My question is does anyone have exposure to SCLM and are there any gotchas? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Sclm
Thanks one and all. We run on several z/Pdt systems, which are great and mainly remote. So I am always looking to make my job, sysprog, developer and qa'er easier. Your input did just thank and I am appreciate of that... Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Gross, Randall [GCG-PFS] randy.gr...@primerica.com wrote: We use the h*ll out of SCLM. Unfortunately I'm no expert on it, but we do have a very good one in-house. We even used it for distributed stuff (java, etc.) w/ BREEZE CLOUD9 and our change control system (for things besides software updates). We do have a C language environment on the mainframe, that works, as far as I know. I'm told that PDSE's are only required for program objects, but we did convert all (or most) of the PDSes, due to their advantages and the sizes of our libraries. We also run EAC (Extended Access Control), a nice security add-on to SCLM from Fundi Software (an IBM business partner). We have integrated our SCLM promote process with our in-house software inventory system (via exits), so that SCLM will not allow a promote of any archdef that contains a non-inventoried item (program, dataset, control card, proc, execution JCL, etc.) I second the idea of getting expert help, but you can't have mine, even though he lives in Cumming. ;-) It's not a simple product (at least the way we use it) but it works very well for us. b/t/w Scott, I think I drive by your company HQ every day I go work... Randy -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Sclm All, I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products. Since we are 'pure' development ,I thought we might be a good candidate for the Product. I have downloaded the IBM Redbook and i am reviewing it. My question is does anyone have exposure to SCLM and are there any gotchas? Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
JEM Command with SCLM application
Good Day Mainframe Giants I have a problem IKJEFTSR interface error Authorized program 'J00YAAI'. Return code = 20. Reason code = 56. this happens only when i have SCLM application opened and use JEM command. What i thought is --- When i using SCLM am using a non-APF-authorized load lib, and that takes away from the authorization of Jobscan, is my assumption right ?. Could any one have solution for this issue please suggest. Sincères salutations / Best regards Raj -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JEM Command with SCLM application
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:53:12 -0500 Rajender Vemula r...@ntrs.com wrote: :Good Day Mainframe Giants :I have a problem :IKJEFTSR interface error :Authorized program 'J00YAAI'. Return code = 20. Reason code = 56. :this happens only when i have SCLM application opened and use JEM :command. :What i thought is --- When i using SCLM am using a non-APF-authorized :load lib, and that takes away from the authorization of Jobscan, is my :assumption right ?. Could any one have solution for this issue please :suggest. The return code suggests that the library from where J00YAAI would be loaded is not APF. Perhaps JEM does some reallocations? Check how your allocations change. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JAVA and SCLM
I'm submitting this again since the last time was during the holidays and I didn't get any replies. I hope that means everyone was enjoying the time off. I am trying to incorporate JAVA within my SCLM structures. I am familiar with Unix services on the z/OS 1.11 system so I was wondering is there a description of what needs to be set-up for both the SCLM and the Unix services in order to be able to promote a JAVA program up through the SCLM structure? Any help is greatly appreciated. We don't have SCLM Developer Toolkit or any other tools. Thanks. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain private, confidential, and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, employee, or agent responsible for delivering this message, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original e-mail message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JAVA and SCLM
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:28:50 -0500, DAVID SPILLMAN david.spill...@jfs.ohio.gov wrote: ... I am trying to incorporate JAVA within my SCLM structures. I am familiar with Unix services on the z/OS 1.11 system so I was wondering is there a description of what needs to be set-up for both the SCLM and the Unix services in order to be able to promote a JAVA program up through the SCLM structure? Any help is greatly appreciated. We don't have SCLM Developer Toolkit or any other tools. It is not clear to me how you want to map the class names to 8 character member names without something like SCLM DT. The current versions of RDz incorporate SCLM DT. That's also what we are using with an SCLM backend inside IBM for some of our z/OS components (certainly next to several other processes.) Personally I'd think that most Java developers would want to make use of an IDE - such as RDz. Horst Sinram - IBM z/OS z/OS Capacity Management DFSMSrmm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JAVA and SCLM
I am trying to incorporate JAVA within one of my SCLM structures. I am familiar with Unix services on the z/OS 1.11 system so I was wondering is there a description of what needs to be set-up for both the SCLM and the Unix services in order to be able to promote a JAVA program up through the SCLM structure? Any help is greatly appreciated. We don't have SCLM Developer Toolkit or any other tools. Thanks. Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year. This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain private, confidential, and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, employee, or agent responsible for delivering this message, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original e-mail message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SCLM question
I have members at the TEST level, that have BLD MAP, but no data (nothing to edit). The member is also at PROD level and it's editable but there is no BLD MAP. How does it happen? and how do you fix it? Thanks! Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM question
Check your SCLM accounting records, this may give you a clue as to what happened. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lucy Arnold Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 12:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SCLM question I have members at the TEST level, that have BLD MAP, but no data (nothing to edit). The member is also at PROD level and it's editable but there is no BLD MAP. How does it happen? and how do you fix it? Thanks! Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ISPF list/SCLM help
Any SCLM folks out there. Or is there a ISPF list as SCLM is part of ISPF I have an issue with the SCLM audit files that need purging of old records. IBM SCLM suggested that I use a sample of a REXX program to delete old records(ISP.SISPSAMP(FLMSVERD). As usual, the SCLM pub and sample is not helping me. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISPF list/SCLM help
Try the Yahoo group: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCLM/ HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Norgauer Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ISPF list/SCLM help Any SCLM folks out there. Or is there a ISPF list as SCLM is part of ISPF I have an issue with the SCLM audit files that need purging of old records. IBM SCLM suggested that I use a sample of a REXX program to delete old records(ISP.SISPSAMP(FLMSVERD). As usual, the SCLM pub and sample is not helping me. John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISPF list/SCLM help
In of9835916d.9c8a09b7-on882576f1.005d9015-882576f1.00628...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu, on 03/25/2010 at 10:56 AM, John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu said: Or is there a ISPF list as SCLM is part of ISPF Yes, ISPF-L. However, there's a lot of ISPF expertise on IBM-MAIN as well. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM and ++include statements
??? Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com 10/27/09 1:50 AM Scott: These Are a Panvalet product only. This a possible way to handle them. Use your global editor to find (and replace) ++INCLUDE to copy ... This works some of the time. The issue is that IIRC the member name may be up to 10 characters which probably does not fit in most PDS's. I think what we did we found all the ++ includes and sat down with a person from the group and renamed all e members to 8 chanacters and used PAN to export the to the desired members. This was a nice project for a junior person to do and the person from the team gave input. The project had its bumps but it worked 99 percent of the time. Panvalet was OK for its day, I guess. I do remember them charging a pretty buck for the ISPF interface. We bought it but at the point we were also getting geared up to drop the product. Ed --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com Subject: Re: SCLM and ++include statements To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 11:39 AM Isn't ++INCLUDE a Panvalet control card, rather than SCLM? Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com 10/26/2009 12:29 PM I want to thank all of you in advance who might respond to my questions. I am currently running SCLM and have programs that have ++include statements imbeded in them to pull in file layouts, etc. I can not find any SCLM documentation that talks about ++include statements. Can anyone point me to any SCLM documentation that will talk about ++include statements? Thank you, Kurt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM and ++include statements
Kurt, We too, have a front-end in our build process to handle ++include members. I just wish there was a parser sample, not written in rexx, that we could compile and have sclm flag it at that time. We did try the rexx sample a few years ago, and for one of the programs that has a large number of ++includes, the save in edit, went from 30 seconds to 5 minutes! Pete CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and all attachments may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:54:28 -0700, Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for your responses. I found a front end for SCLM that was handling the ++include statements. Kurt  -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SCLM and ++include statements
I want to thank all of you in advance who might respond to my questions.  I am currently running SCLM and have programs that have ++include statements imbeded in them to pull in file layouts, etc.  I can not find any SCLM documentation that talks about ++include statements.  Can anyone point me to any SCLM documentation that will talk about ++include statements?  Thank you, Kurt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM and ++include statements
The ++include is from a different library system, SCLM uses copy. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Kurt Eastwood Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SCLM and ++include statements I want to thank all of you in advance who might respond to my questions.  I am currently running SCLM and have programs that have ++include statements imbeded in them to pull in file layouts, etc.  I can not find any SCLM documentation that talks about ++include statements.  Can anyone point me to any SCLM documentation that will talk about ++include statements?  Thank you, Kurt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may constitute as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, notify us immediately by telephone and (i) destroy this message if a facsimile or (ii) delete this message immediately if this is an electronic communication. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM and ++include statements
Isn't ++INCLUDE a Panvalet control card, rather than SCLM? Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com 10/26/2009 12:29 PM I want to thank all of you in advance who might respond to my questions. I am currently running SCLM and have programs that have ++include statements imbeded in them to pull in file layouts, etc. I can not find any SCLM documentation that talks about ++include statements. Can anyone point me to any SCLM documentation that will talk about ++include statements? Thank you, Kurt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM and ++include statements
I believe ++include may be a panvalet statement. I just don't see how SCLM is correctly using them to pull in file defs, I can't find doc that talks about ++include in SCLM. Unless there is a front end changing these ++include statements to SCLM code? Is anybody doing this?  Thanks, Kurt --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com Subject: Re: SCLM and ++include statements To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:39 PM Isn't ++INCLUDE a Panvalet control card, rather than SCLM? Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com 10/26/2009 12:29 PM I want to thank all of you in advance who might respond to my questions. I am currently running SCLM and have programs that have ++include statements imbeded in them to pull in file layouts, etc. I can not find any SCLM documentation that talks about ++include statements. Can anyone point me to any SCLM documentation that will talk about ++include statements? Thank you, Kurt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM and ++include statements
Thanks for your responses. I found a front end for SCLM that was handling the ++include statements. Kurt  --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com Subject: Re: SCLM and ++include statements To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:39 PM Isn't ++INCLUDE a Panvalet control card, rather than SCLM? Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com 10/26/2009 12:29 PM I want to thank all of you in advance who might respond to my questions. I am currently running SCLM and have programs that have ++include statements imbeded in them to pull in file layouts, etc. I can not find any SCLM documentation that talks about ++include statements. Can anyone point me to any SCLM documentation that will talk about ++include statements? Thank you, Kurt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM and ++include statements
Scott: These Are a Panvalet product only.  This a possible way to handle them. Use your global editor to find (and replace) ++INCLUDE to copy ... This works some of the time. The issue is that IIRC the member name may be up to 10 characters which probably does not fit in most PDS's. I think what we did we found all the ++ includes and sat down with a person from the group and renamed all e members to 8 chanacters and used PAN to export the to the desired members. This was a nice project for a junior person to do and the person from the team gave input. The project had its bumps but it worked 99 percent of the time. Panvalet was OK for its day, I guess. I do remember them charging a pretty buck for the ISPF interface. We bought it but at the point we were also getting geared up to drop the product. Ed --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com Subject: Re: SCLM and ++include statements To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 11:39 AM Isn't ++INCLUDE a Panvalet control card, rather than SCLM? Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com 10/26/2009 12:29 PM I want to thank all of you in advance who might respond to my questions. I am currently running SCLM and have programs that have ++include statements imbeded in them to pull in file layouts, etc. I can not find any SCLM documentation that talks about ++include statements. Can anyone point me to any SCLM documentation that will talk about ++include statements? Thank you, Kurt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM in btch
Hi Hal What happens when you try to use the batch jobs? Does anything actually get submitted? are you able to build interactively under TSO? We use SCLM extensively for many different things, and we use the batch interface for all of our builds and promotions. We've also used rexx for language processors and exits, we also use rexx to launch SCLM commands from custom built interfaces. The starting point for batch processing is to locate and customise the FLMB$ skeleton for the builds, and the FLMP$ skeleton for the promote, these should be in your base ISPF ISPSSLIB library:- DSLISTISP.SISPSLIB Command === Name Prompt Size Cr _ FLMB$ _ FLMCLIST _ FLMCQSKB _ FLMCQSKI _ FLMCQSKP _ FLMDCSM$ _ FLMDG$ _ FLMDSU$ _ FLMLIBS _ FLMP$ However, this is not the starting point with SCLM, before you can run anything you need to code (clone?) and assemble, your project and language definitions, have you done this yet?, if not, reply and i''ll send you some basic examples. To give you an idea, here is a section of one of language definitions, used to call a REXX program:- VIEW EPOLMS.PROJDEFS.SOURCE(JCLCNTL) - 01.00 Columns 1 00072 Command === Scroll === CSR 63 * 64 FLMTRNSL CALLNAM='JCLCNTL SACOPY03',C 65 FUNCTN=BUILD, C 66 COMPILE=SELECT, C 67 CALLMETH=ISPLNK,C 68 DSNAME=EPOLMX.LIVE.EXEC,C 69 VERSION=V1.0, C 70 OPTFLAG=N, C 71OPTIONS='CMD(SACOPY03 @@FLMPRJ @@FLMGRP @@FLMTYPC 72 @@FLMMBR)', C 73 GOODRC=0, C 74PORDER=1 75 * 76 *-- 77 * SOURCE CODE 78 * --- 79FLMALLOC IOTYPE=A,DDNAME=SYSUT501 80 FLMCPYLB @@FLMDSN 81 * 82 *-- 83 * ALLOCATE THE SYSPRINT DD 84 * 85FLMALLOC IOTYPE=W,RECFM=FBA,LRECL=133, C 86RECNUM=5,PRINT=N,DDNAME=SYSLST 87 * 88 *-- You could say the FLMTRNSL macro equates to an EXEC statement, and the FLMALLOC/FLMCPYLB macro's equate to a DD statement. Andy p.s I also recommend the yahoo SCLM group 2008/7/29 Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] We use the base SCLM, but have been unable to get any batch processes running. It seems the main environment establishment API does not support REXX. Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes? Thanks NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Andy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SCLM in btch
We use the base SCLM, but have been unable to get any batch processes running. It seems the main environment establishment API does not support REXX. Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes? Thanks NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM in btch
I have implemented them in REXX. I don't have the code with me right now, but I can send you some samples off list tonight, if you like. Regards, Dave -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SCLM in btch We use the base SCLM, but have been unable to get any batch processes running. It seems the main environment establishment API does not support REXX. Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes? Thanks NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM in btch
In a message dated 7/29/2008 12:54:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes? Which FM are you using? Once the initial SKELs are setup it ought to do the trick. 2.2.10 Batch Processing The Verify Batch Job Information panel shown in _Figure 110_ (http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ispzsc40/2.2.10?SHELF=ISPZPM40DT= 20050711210936#FIGFJOBCD) is the standard panel for the SCLM functions that allow you to select batch processing. When you enter SUBMIT and when the JOB statement is not on the submittal panel, this panel appears. SCLM requires JCL job statements when you process in batch mode. Note: SCLM can automatically generate unique jobnames. If you use the jobname USERIDx, where x is a letter of the alphabet or a digit, SCLM increments this letter or number by one for the next job. For example, if your USERID is SMITH, and your jobcard is submitted with the jobname SMITH3, the jobname is updated to SMITH4. (http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ispzsc40/picture-46?mode=zoom) Figure 110. Verify Batch Job Information (FLMDSU#P) **Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr000520) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM in btch
Please!! And a virtual beverage of your choice for your kindness. Hmerritt circled 'a' jackhenry spot com Thanks!! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wilson Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SCLM in btch I have implemented them in REXX. I don't have the code with me right now, but I can send you some samples off list tonight, if you like. Regards, Dave -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SCLM in btch We use the base SCLM, but have been unable to get any batch processes running. It seems the main environment establishment API does not support REXX. Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes? Thanks NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM in btch
The basic setup is the missing piece. SCLM does not come with any usable/working samples. In fact, we use only the very basics because we could not get any of the compiles, etc working. The programmer (yes, 'the' programmer) used some sort of interactive command for his C++ we could not replicate. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SCLM in btch In a message dated 7/29/2008 12:54:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes? Which FM are you using? Once the initial SKELs are setup it ought to do the trick. ..snip NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM in btch
You can get excellent help from the SCLM group on Yahoo groups. You can sign up at http://groups.yahoo.com Regards, Dave -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SCLM in btch The basic setup is the missing piece. SCLM does not come with any usable/working samples. In fact, we use only the very basics because we could not get any of the compiles, etc working. The programmer (yes, 'the' programmer) used some sort of interactive command for his C++ we could not replicate. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SCLM in btch In a message dated 7/29/2008 12:54:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes? Which FM are you using? Once the initial SKELs are setup it ought to do the trick. ..snip NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM in btch
You may find the new(ish) redbook, Getting Started with SCLM (SG24-7392) very helpful. There are also some sample programs you can download. Here's the link to the redbook: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247392.html Be sure to click on the Additional Material link to get access to the samples. Hope that helps. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/30/2008 at 02:17 PM, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: All I'm saying is that *somebody* has to provide support, at whatever level the user wishes to pay. And I'm saying that the level of that support is *not* determined by what the user is willing to pay. You have to be careful, though, not to mix this type of support with the normal community benefits that derive from using any piece of software exercised by at least two users. Why? If the community solves my problem, then from my perspective that's what matters. If a vendor can't solve my problem faster than the community can, why should I pay extra for vendor support? That's not what I mean by support in this context, although that's perhaps what you're implying. Not at all; I'm talking about solutions that volunteers provide *after* I've run into the problem. For some free software that support has been better than the typical paid support. Now, if you want to argue that the volunteers are not being compensated for their time, that's a separate issue. But even there you could find indirect compensations. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/27/2008 at 03:09 PM, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: True, but assuming we're actually talking about a properly measured and allocated support line item in the budget, a zero price tag results in zero support. A zero price tag in whose budget? *Somebody* has to pay for support, even if it involves volunteer labor hours. And if the volunteer *wants* to know about problems so that he can fix them? If the documentation of the bug is what he needs to locate a problem that he's been chasing for a long time? (Time is still money.) The Devil is in the details. Sometimes there is less lost time with free software. Oh, BTW, IBM uses free software, not just proprietary software. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
Shmuel Metz writes: Oh, BTW, IBM uses free software, not just proprietary software. Of course, and I don't think anyone was arguing to the contrary (as he types from a Linux client :-)). IBM also sells support services for myriad free software products. All I'm saying is that *somebody* has to provide support, at whatever level the user wishes to pay. In the case of my personal Linux client, I support myself and pay in the form of my time. (There's another Linux support option inside IBM that's much more popular, but it's the option I happened to choose.) It's a considerable amount of time, thus very real dollars. You have to be careful, though, not to mix this type of support with the normal community benefits that derive from using any piece of software exercised by at least two users. In the latter case, if somebody else discovers a bug before you do, and has enough incentive to fix the bug himself or hire somebody else to fix it, then you benefit assuming the fix drifts back into the mainline software version. That's not what I mean by support in this context, although that's perhaps what you're implying. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
Shmuel Metz writes: Sometimes you are on your own even when you pay for software, and sometimes there are support resources for free software. A big price tag doesn't guaranty anything except a big price tag. True, but assuming we're actually talking about a properly measured and allocated support line item in the budget, a zero price tag results in zero support. *Somebody* has to pay for support, even if it involves volunteer labor hours. (Time is still money.) There are various ways to help keep support prices highly correlated with actual support delivery, but that's a big topic for another day. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/20/2008 at 04:05 AM, Jan MOEYERSONS [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sorry, no, you will not. Because you will have to do it all yourself and on your own. Sometimes you are on your own even when you pay for software, and sometimes there are support resources for free software. A big price tag doesn't guaranty anything except a big price tag. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:17:11 +0200, Albert Klimek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past we had a similar situation. The management had decided to remove CA Librarian. I can understand one would want to remove CA; after all, although I have no experience with Librarian, I do have experience with CA. No offence... I know nothing about SCLM, but we have selected CVS/MVS for our purposes. Again, I have no real experience using either SCLM or CVS, but both only support well the versioning and give you (very) little life cycle (workflow) management. And it is precisely the life cycle management that I feel is important. The special decision criteria for CVS on MVS: - low cost solution by using Open Source Don't be fooled by the fact that you do not have to pay $$$ for acquiring the software. The real cost is in implementation, migration, training, etc. I developed an ISPF-Frontend for ease of use and to control the workflow (test, quality-control, integration, production) You see: that is were your cost will go... Therefore we are very flexible for future expansions. Sorry, no, you will not. Because you will have to do it all yourself and on your own. In my book you are always better of buying something than building it. My opinion. Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Antwort: Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
You see: that is were your cost will go... I agree, it's a low cost solution, not for free. I made a simple calculation. If I buy a commercial software I had to pay the purchase price, I had to pay for implementation and then each year for maintenance. With the use of open source software, initially I have much effort, then this is rather low. Therefore my Company save money in the amount of my salary, month per month. Sorry, no, you will not. Because you will have to do it all yourself and on your own. In my book you are always better of buying something than building it. Ok, the solution is only for our needs, but suitable for our purposes. And changes are straightforward. Albert Jan MOEYERSONS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 20.06.2008 11:05 Bitte antworten an IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU An IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Kopie Thema Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:17:11 +0200, Albert Klimek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past we had a similar situation. The management had decided to remove CA Librarian. I can understand one would want to remove CA; after all, although I have no experience with Librarian, I do have experience with CA. No offence... I know nothing about SCLM, but we have selected CVS/MVS for our purposes. Again, I have no real experience using either SCLM or CVS, but both only support well the versioning and give you (very) little life cycle (workflow) management. And it is precisely the life cycle management that I feel is important. The special decision criteria for CVS on MVS: - low cost solution by using Open Source Don't be fooled by the fact that you do not have to pay $$$ for acquiring the software. The real cost is in implementation, migration, training, etc. I developed an ISPF-Frontend for ease of use and to control the workflow (test, quality-control, integration, production) You see: that is were your cost will go... Therefore we are very flexible for future expansions. Sorry, no, you will not. Because you will have to do it all yourself and on your own. In my book you are always better of buying something than building it. My opinion. Cheers, Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html VERLAGSGRUPPE WELTBILD GMBH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Augsburg Handelsregister Augsburg HRB 6035 Ust-ID-Nr: DE 127501299 Geschäftsführung: Carel Halff (Vorsitzender), Dr. Klaus Driever, Werner Ortner, Herbert Zoch Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Dr. Klaus Donaubauer
Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
In the past we had a similar situation. The management had decided to remove CA Librarian. I know nothing about SCLM, but we have selected CVS/MVS for our purposes. (Mainframe developers and Mainframe COBOL-Sources) The special decision criteria for CVS on MVS: - low cost solution by using Open Source - vendor independence - much used in open systems environments (easier change of platform in the future) I developed an ISPF-Frontend for ease of use and to control the workflow (test, quality-control, integration, production) Therefore we are very flexible for future expansions. This will be the integration of egl-sourcecode. Albert VERLAGSGRUPPE WELTBILD GMBH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Augsburg Handelsregister Augsburg HRB 6035 Ust-ID-Nr: DE 127501299 Geschäftsführung: Carel Halff (Vorsitzender), Dr. Klaus Driever, Werner Ortner, Herbert Zoch Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Dr. Klaus Donaubauer
Re: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
Albert Thanks for the input -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert Klimek Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Antwort: Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM In the past we had a similar situation. The management had decided to remove CA Librarian. I know nothing about SCLM, but we have selected CVS/MVS for our purposes. (Mainframe developers and Mainframe COBOL-Sources) The special decision criteria for CVS on MVS: - low cost solution by using Open Source - vendor independence - much used in open systems environments (easier change of platform in the future) I developed an ISPF-Frontend for ease of use and to control the workflow (test, quality-control, integration, production) Therefore we are very flexible for future expansions. This will be the integration of egl-sourcecode. Albert -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Thoughts/Experience with migration from Serana Changeman to SCLM
If you have any real life thoughts/knowledge/experience regarding a migration from Serena's Changeman ZMF to IBM's SCLM change control products please pass them along. There are talks in the work here of possibly making this switch and I'd appreciate for any insights good or bad that I may share with management. Thank you. Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
Does SC34-4817-07 help? George Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
According to my z/OS 1.9 installation it should be in DDDEF SISPMACS In my case, SYS1.SIPSMACS. HTH, snip George Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
ISPF SCLM GUIDE AND REFERENCE in the ISPF bookshelf (SC34-4817-07) CH 19. Eric Spencer Neon Enterprise Software Inc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 7:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
I'm curious why you would care if it asks for SYSDA or VIO? I would expect both to be handled by SMS. George Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 8:05 AM I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
By mistake, VIO was deleted in a IOCDS update, so until I can get the VIO back in to the HCD, I'm stuck...See post HCD v1.4... Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work I'm curious why you would care if it asks for SYSDA or VIO? I would expect both to be handled by SMS. George Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 8:05 AM I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
George, Just alter your ACS routines to force all VIO allocations to disk. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work By mistake, VIO was deleted in a IOCDS update, so until I can get the VIO back in to the HCD, I'm stuck...See post HCD v1.4... Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work I'm curious why you would care if it asks for SYSDA or VIO? I would expect both to be handled by SMS. George Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 8:05 AM I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
There's no need to force them to disk. In an SMS environment there is no need for a VIO esoteric at all, as long as allocations using UNIT=VIO are assigned a STORCLAS the esoteric is unneeded. Once the allocation is SMS managed, it can be assigned to a VIO STORGRP. Ron Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 10:12 AM George, Just alter your ACS routines to force all VIO allocations to disk. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work By mistake, VIO was deleted in a IOCDS update, so until I can get the VIO back in to the HCD, I'm stuck...See post HCD v1.4... Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work I'm curious why you would care if it asks for SYSDA or VIO? I would expect both to be handled by SMS. George Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 8:05 AM I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
That is fully dependent on how it has been coded in his site's ACS routines, so you can't blindly assume this intelligence. Kees. Scott Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm curious why you would care if it asks for SYSDA or VIO? I would expect both to be handled by SMS. George Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 8:05 AM I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
Scott, Probably because it has always been there, I've always assumed that VIO allocated via SMS needed a model device defined. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 7:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work There's no need to force them to disk. In an SMS environment there is no need for a VIO esoteric at all, as long as allocations using UNIT=VIO are assigned a STORCLAS the esoteric is unneeded. Once the allocation is SMS managed, it can be assigned to a VIO STORGRP. Ron Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 10:12 AM George, Just alter your ACS routines to force all VIO allocations to disk. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work By mistake, VIO was deleted in a IOCDS update, so until I can get the VIO back in to the HCD, I'm stuck...See post HCD v1.4... Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work I'm curious why you would care if it asks for SYSDA or VIO? I would expect both to be handled by SMS. George Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 8:05 AM I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
Thanks to everyone for the help...The outcome: Create storage class TEMP and if UNIT=VIO assign SC TEMP. If SC = TEMP, assign it to SG = TEMP... Problem solved... No need to add the esoteric... Thanks again! George Rodriguez :-) Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work Scott, Probably because it has always been there, I've always assumed that VIO allocated via SMS needed a model device defined. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 7:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work There's no need to force them to disk. In an SMS environment there is no need for a VIO esoteric at all, as long as allocations using UNIT=VIO are assigned a STORCLAS the esoteric is unneeded. Once the allocation is SMS managed, it can be assigned to a VIO STORGRP. Ron Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 10:12 AM George, Just alter your ACS routines to force all VIO allocations to disk. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 6:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work By mistake, VIO was deleted in a IOCDS update, so until I can get the VIO back in to the HCD, I'm stuck...See post HCD v1.4... Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work I'm curious why you would care if it asks for SYSDA or VIO? I would expect both to be handled by SMS. George Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 8:05 AM I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm
Re: No VIO Causes SCLM not to Work
I did not blindly assume anything, but I don't expect to find TEMP datasets un-managed, they are about the easiest and (usually) first datasets to be converted to SMS management. I was trying to lead him to the answer WITHOUT making any assumptions, and it seems to have worked. Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 9:51 AM That is fully dependent on how it has been coded in his site's ACS routines, so you can't blindly assume this intelligence. Kees. Scott Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm curious why you would care if it asks for SYSDA or VIO? I would expect both to be handled by SMS. George Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/4/2008 8:05 AM I've been searching hi and low for any information on FLMALLOC which controls the JCL that's submitted to move things around in preparation for a promotion. Does anyone know where I can find this macro so I can change it to use SYSDA instead of VIO? Help will be appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated A by the Florida Department of Education 2005, 2006 2007 - Under Florida law, e-mail addresses are public records. If you do not want your e-mail address released in response to a public records request, do not send electronic mail to this entity. Instead, contact this office by phone or in writing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Note that my email domain has changed from jo-annstores.com to joann.com. Please update your address book and other records to reflect this change. CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do
SCLM Puzzlement
I have some new users (created under z/os 1.7) that cannot invoke SCLM functions. SCLM starts, but an attempt to browse a SCLM controlled dataset yields: FLM81204 - ERROR INITIALIZING THE PROJECT DEFINITION, CODE: 8 A trip to the FM found words, but not information: 8 An error occurred while attempting to obtain the specified project definition or alternate project definition. Verify the project or alternate project definition.. I was not able to recreate the error by recreating ISPPROF, only by creating a new user. All can browse the PROJDEFS.LOAD and the member therein. I see no RACF messages. Older users are not seeing any problems. Do I remember a SCLM command that has to be issued before the very first invocation? Ideas, anyone? Thanks. NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM Translator Questions
Thanks Rob. That solved my Problem#2 as well. Interesting that the REXX translator has a few quirks. I'll have to take the time to fix these but for now I just worked around them. I noticed that: 1) It didn't recognize .* comments in macros (I did change FLMLRASM to correct that one) 2) It doesn't like labels on macro prototype statements 3) It doesn't like comments which have continuations Sheesh! Thanks for your help, Ken Kornblum NEON Enterprise Software, Inc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 2:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] SCLM Translator Questions Ken, For (1), you add the SPMs as opcodes in the parser for HLASM. Here at Rocket we use a modified version of the supplied REXX exec FLMLRASM and add the SPMs into the opcodes.i stem variable. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi_g -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SCLM Translator Questions
Ken, For (1), you add the SPMs as opcodes in the parser for HLASM. Here at Rocket we use a modified version of the supplied REXX exec FLMLRASM and add the SPMs into the opcodes.i stem variable. Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi_g2 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Kornblum Sent: 08 April 2007 10:32 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SCLM Translator Questions Greetings. I am creating a new SCLM project and have experimented my brains out but have yet to resolve two issues. Several of us are implementing SCLM source control for our products, but there isn't a lot of expertise around yet. 1) Structured Macros (HLASM) Any program which contains structured macros are getting build errors on IF,ELSE,ENDIF etc. Member ASMMSP is in a non-SCLM controlled library which is in my SYSLIB in the SCLM language definition. As a rule, we COPY ASMMSP from within a macro which is part of our normal program prologue. To correct this I tried coding COPY ASMMSP at the top of the program (rather than having it nested in our macro) but that did not help. I also tried SINC ASMMSP and INCLD ASMMSP in my (CC) ARCHDEF for the source program. No Joy. I know this can be done. What is the trick? 2) DB2 SQL Precompile with HLASM Most of my DB2 programs which contain SQL are fine, but several contain statements in DSECTs such as: NORMAL_VARDS A HOSTVARNAME SQL TYPE IS ROWID HOSTVARNAME2 SQL TYPE IS BLOB_LOCATOR But, I get BUILD error FLM43001 for TYPE: MACLIB MEMBER: SQL. So, it obviously does not recognize that syntax. Again, there MUST be a way to do this since that syntax has been valid for quite a while. Thanks in advance for any assistance, Ken Kornblum Product Author Neon Enterprise Software Inc. Austin, Texas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SCLM Translator Questions
Greetings. I am creating a new SCLM project and have experimented my brains out but have yet to resolve two issues. Several of us are implementing SCLM source control for our products, but there isn't a lot of expertise around yet. 1) Structured Macros (HLASM) Any program which contains structured macros are getting build errors on IF,ELSE,ENDIF etc. Member ASMMSP is in a non-SCLM controlled library which is in my SYSLIB in the SCLM language definition. As a rule, we COPY ASMMSP from within a macro which is part of our normal program prologue. To correct this I tried coding COPY ASMMSP at the top of the program (rather than having it nested in our macro) but that did not help. I also tried SINC ASMMSP and INCLD ASMMSP in my (CC) ARCHDEF for the source program. No Joy. I know this can be done. What is the trick? 2) DB2 SQL Precompile with HLASM Most of my DB2 programs which contain SQL are fine, but several contain statements in DSECTs such as: NORMAL_VARDS A HOSTVARNAME SQL TYPE IS ROWID HOSTVARNAME2 SQL TYPE IS BLOB_LOCATOR But, I get BUILD error FLM43001 for TYPE: MACLIB MEMBER: SQL. So, it obviously does not recognize that syntax. Again, there MUST be a way to do this since that syntax has been valid for quite a while. Thanks in advance for any assistance, Ken Kornblum Product Author Neon Enterprise Software Inc. Austin, Texas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need advice on implementing SCLM
Kenny, thank you very much for the group link! Jerry On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:10:25 -, Kenny Fogarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry, Your criteria sounds pretty much like something that SCLM can handle quite easily. There is an SCLM group available on Yahoo Groups, which the SCLM development team appear on, and that's a valuable resource for anyone who has to set up and maintain SCLM, the project definitions, and the language definitions which will be used to build all your elements. You can find details on the SCLM group here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCLM/ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. Sent: 11 February 2007 06:52 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Need advice on implementing SCLM Time to standardize our change management procedures. We're looking into SCLM to accomplish this. Let me describe the application system we wish to migrate to SCLM. This app system runs on z/OS. It has batch and online source, copybook and load libraries. The files have the following naming convention: Batch: appname.version.libraryname Online: appname.version.IMS.libraryname We could change the library names if really necessary but we'd really rather not. The staff members that develop, modify, test and maintain the app system are an autonomous group, with everyone potentially taking part in all aspects of managing the apps in every aspect. So any team member can add, modify or delete any object in this system. They'll also be responsible for maintaining SCLM for their app system. At present, the general procedure implemented when making a change to these apps is very simplistic: 1. Modify the necessary code. 2. Compile. 3. Test. 4. Approve and move to production. I've begun reading through the SCLM General Reference manual. Getting some quickstart help from the experienced would be a great timesaver. At present, this is just a getting-acquainted test drive for us with SCLM, so if we make any mistakes or we configure it in a way that doesn't meet our needs, we can simply wipe the slate clean and start the experiment over again. TIA. Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Need advice on implementing SCLM
Jerry, Your criteria sounds pretty much like something that SCLM can handle quite easily. There is an SCLM group available on Yahoo Groups, which the SCLM development team appear on, and that's a valuable resource for anyone who has to set up and maintain SCLM, the project definitions, and the language definitions which will be used to build all your elements. You can find details on the SCLM group here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/SCLM/ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. Sent: 11 February 2007 06:52 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Need advice on implementing SCLM Time to standardize our change management procedures. We're looking into SCLM to accomplish this. Let me describe the application system we wish to migrate to SCLM. This app system runs on z/OS. It has batch and online source, copybook and load libraries. The files have the following naming convention: Batch: appname.version.libraryname Online: appname.version.IMS.libraryname We could change the library names if really necessary but we'd really rather not. The staff members that develop, modify, test and maintain the app system are an autonomous group, with everyone potentially taking part in all aspects of managing the apps in every aspect. So any team member can add, modify or delete any object in this system. They'll also be responsible for maintaining SCLM for their app system. At present, the general procedure implemented when making a change to these apps is very simplistic: 1. Modify the necessary code. 2. Compile. 3. Test. 4. Approve and move to production. I've begun reading through the SCLM General Reference manual. Getting some quickstart help from the experienced would be a great timesaver. At present, this is just a getting-acquainted test drive for us with SCLM, so if we make any mistakes or we configure it in a way that doesn't meet our needs, we can simply wipe the slate clean and start the experiment over again. TIA. Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Need advice on implementing SCLM
Time to standardize our change management procedures. We're looking into SCLM to accomplish this. Let me describe the application system we wish to migrate to SCLM. This app system runs on z/OS. It has batch and online source, copybook and load libraries. The files have the following naming convention: Batch: appname.version.libraryname Online: appname.version.IMS.libraryname We could change the library names if really necessary but we'd really rather not. The staff members that develop, modify, test and maintain the app system are an autonomous group, with everyone potentially taking part in all aspects of managing the apps in every aspect. So any team member can add, modify or delete any object in this system. They'll also be responsible for maintaining SCLM for their app system. At present, the general procedure implemented when making a change to these apps is very simplistic: 1. Modify the necessary code. 2. Compile. 3. Test. 4. Approve and move to production. I've begun reading through the SCLM General Reference manual. Getting some quickstart help from the experienced would be a great timesaver. At present, this is just a getting-acquainted test drive for us with SCLM, so if we make any mistakes or we configure it in a way that doesn't meet our needs, we can simply wipe the slate clean and start the experiment over again. TIA. Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SCLM Build and Promotes by Change Code
We are considering doing our Builds and Promotes in SCLM by Change Code. We are currently having a problem with one person making a change to a Copy Member and someone else, who uses the member, promoting the change before it's ready to go to production. The Build and Promote by Change Code sounds like the solution. Does anyone do this and have any suggestions or cautions concerning this? Thanks, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
