Re: Mysterious Abend 0C1

2013-05-23 Thread Robin Atwood
OK, this is what happened. The dump analyser is a trusty clist written for 
IPCS by me over 20 years ago. It (almost always) works by using the chain: ASXB 
- abending TCB - RTWA, from where it gets the PSW and registers. In this case 
it got caught out because there was a preceding TCB with a completion code of 
0C1 but only a PRB, no RTWA and hence the mayhem. 

So, sorry for the noise but this exchange has proved very useful because I now 
know about the BEAR. Unfortunately it is not listed by either the IPCS STATUS 
or SUMMARY commands, which would have been very useful since there is a chain 
of control blocks to follow (SDWAXPAD-SDWAPTRS, SDWAXEME-SDWARC4).

Cheers
-Robin 

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Subject: Re: Mysterious Abend 0C1

Gerhard Adam wrote:

This entire problem is suspect since the PSW itself isn't valid.  There is no 
situation of where bits 24-31 can contain an x'E1'

Good catch. Even after reading my Principle of Operations, it is still a good 
catch :-)

Of course, the OP discovered later that 'dump analyser picked up the wrong PSW 
'.

I wish the OP published the CORRECT dump results including the PSW and the 
registers.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Predict WLC invoice amount ...

2013-05-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
This is getting pretty ridiculous now, in my view.

So let's say that IBM increases a particular price for sake of argument.
What does that mean? Well, in effect it means you may be slightly off the
financial part of your forecast for the remainder of your ELA. Which means
you may be closer or less close to perfect in your capacity forecast
relative to the financial one. (If your utilizations are running under
forecast, the price increase soaks up some gap and probably the payments
don't change, so you're actually closer to perfect. If you're running over,
you may have a bit more overage to pay at the end, so you've left some
benefit on the table.) A *perfect* forecast maximizes ELA benefits. An
imperfect forecast...STILL YIELDS ELA BENEFITS!

This isn't a question of whether or not you should have an ELA. You
probably should -- talk with your IBM representative. If perfect is
defined as 10 units worth of benefit (with 100% hindsight), sure, maybe
you'll only get 8 units when the books are closed. Is 8 better than zero
benefit? Heck yes! And many organizations like smoothed billing anyway for
budgetary reasons, so that's another benefit in many cases.

By the way, when IBM announced the Mainframe Charter 10 years ago, it
promised to deliver on a few important principles. One of the most
important was to improve the value of zSeries (now zEnterprise). Very
importantly, IBM did not specify exactly what form those ongoing
improvements would take, at least in part because IBM couldn't predict
everything. I'm pretty sure IBM didn't predict the DB2 Analytics
Accelerator in 2003, for example -- at least not in detail. IBM hasn't
issued many charters -- maybe two? -- and I think many observers missed how
seriously IBM took (and takes) the Mainframe Charter.

OK, fast forward 10 years. We've seen substantial net unit price decreases
in myriad forms (speciality engines, more and more business-friendly
sub-capacity licensing, accelerators, hardware capacity, memory,
maintenance, Capacity for Planned Events, Solution Editions, Value Unit
Editions, Rational Unit Test feature, and many others). We've also seen
functionality which previously required paying extra now not requiring
extra payment -- the WebSphere Liberty Profile in CICS TS V5.1 and IMS
Connect are two among many examples. We've seen serious (and ongoing) path
length reductions throughout the portfolio -- yes even including COBOL,
CICS, and IMS. (Welcome, Enterprise COBOL Version 5.) We've seen IBM
compete aggressively but fairly in the tools and utilities market, and on a
sub-capacity basis. We've seen price inflation and even some currency
devaluations in the world at large, and yes we've even seen IBM raise a few
price numbers a bit so that everything is not falling *too* quickly. And,
oh yes, we have 5.5 GHz cores!

I think this whole picture over the past decade is a very good result.
There's lots more value-for-money than there was 10 years ago -- there was
a lot even then -- and IBM continues to be well positioned to keep
delivering on the Mainframe Charter's promises.

Anybody who wants to trade today for 10 years ago, raise your hand. :-)

Writing only for myself.


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Re: From Linux to MVS via USS and Back

2013-05-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
Just a brief editorial comment. A file transfer link inherently means the
application interactions will be batch-oriented. That is, Application A
(and probably others) won't know the same information as new Application B.
New Application B will always have untimely information.

Does that untimeliness matter? It depends on the applications, but often
yes, it's bad because it's not what the business wants. Or at least the
business users soon realize it's not what they want, and then unnatural
acts are performed.

Be careful you're choosing the correct connectivity for the business
requirements. File transfer (of any sort) may not be the correct choice for
that and possibly also for other reasons (such as security).

If file transfer is the correct choice, I'll drop a hint and ask if you
have looked at z/OS UNIX System Services pipes.


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Logica and Pirate Bay

2013-05-23 Thread R.S.

Has anyone heard about intrusion to Swedish mainframe-based system?

I just read:
A lawsuit against Gottfrid Svartholm, co-founder of Pirate Bay is just 
started. He's accused of a break in and data theft form the mainframe 
system containing government data (tax, social security, company 
registers, driver licences, etc.).


(in polish)
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Re: Logica and Pirate Bay

2013-05-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka pisze:

Has anyone heard about intrusion to Swedish mainframe-based system?

Nein, Njet, Nee and No (Hmmm, what is No in Polish? ;-D )

A lawsuit against Gottfrid Svartholm, co-founder of Pirate Bay is just 
started. He's accused of a break in and data theft form the mainframe system 
containing government data (tax, social security, company  registers, driver 
licences, etc.).

http://wikileaks.org/gottfrid-docs/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfrid_Svartholm

http://www.ibtimes.com/gottfrid-svartholm-pirate-bay-founder-charged-attempting-steal-57-million-swedish-kronor-hacking

etc...


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Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht 

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Re: Mysterious Abend 0C1

2013-05-23 Thread Robin Atwood
Thanks for clarifying. Could you select / re-select the Address space (other 
TCB?) to be used in your dump analysis?

Yes, I set a symbol to the desired TCB address and then the analysis proceeds 
correctly.

 Could you get any info from Logrec?

It's a client's system, so I look at what I am given. Anyway, I found the bad 
branch from the BEAR, a routine address in an internal control block had been 
stomped on. By what and when remains a mystery.

-Robin
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Subject: Re: Mysterious Abend 0C1

Robin Atwood wrote:

OK, this is what happened. The dump analyser is a trusty clist written for 
IPCS by me over 20 years ago. It (almost always) works by using the chain: 
ASXB - abending TCB - RTWA, from where it gets the PSW and registers. In 
this case it got caught out because there was a preceding TCB with a 
completion code of 0C1 but only a PRB, no RTWA and hence the mayhem. 

Thanks for clarifying. Could you select / re-select the Address space (other 
TCB?) to be used in your dump analysis?

So, sorry for the noise but this exchange has proved very useful because I now 
know about the BEAR. Unfortunately it is not listed by either the IPCS STATUS 
or SUMMARY commands, which would have been very useful since there is a chain 
of control blocks to follow (SDWAXPAD-SDWAPTRS, SDWAXEME-SDWARC4).

SDWARC4. Hmmm, I now rememeber. EREP does show the Breaking-Event-Address 
Register.

Could you get any info from Logrec?

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: why does WLM Server status change from YES to NO

2013-05-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Wed, 22 May 2013 10:07:57 +0100, Martin Packer wrote:

Wonder what happens if you manage region to goals of BOTH. Anyone using
that yet? Note: SMF30PF2 has a new(ish) bit for it.

Any region being managed to transaction goals has *always* been managed to both 
- startup and shutdown use the region goal.
I don't understand why this option was introduced - and why it is only 
recommended for TORs. Guess I'd better go find some doco (pointers gratefully 
accepted).

Shane ...

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Re: why does WLM Server status change from YES to NO

2013-05-23 Thread Horst Sinram
 Any region being managed to transaction goals has *always* been managed to 
 both - startup and shutdown use the region goal.
 I don't understand why this option was introduced - and why it is only 
 recommended for TORs. Guess I'd better go find some doco (pointers 
 gratefully accepted).

Shane, 

you could refer to 
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/eserver/zseries/zos/wlm/WLM2012Share.pdf 
(or navigate there via http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/wlm/). 
As described there Mananage to Both is intended to combine the region 
management of the TORs (allowing to favor the TORs over the AORs) with the full 
transaction reporting that you would get from Manage to Goal of Transactions. 
It's primarily useful for systems where CICS is the predominant workload. (And, 
yes, I have seen data from quite a few large sites using it very successfully.)
Horst Sinram - IBM z/OS Workload Management

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Re: why does WLM Server status change from YES to NO

2013-05-23 Thread Walter Marguccio
 From: Horst Sinram sin...@de.ibm.com
 Subject: Re: why does WLM Server status change from YES to NO


 Mananage to Both is intended to combine the region management of the TORs 

 (allowing to favor the TORs over the AORs)


Horst,

we have a single OLTP region, which is TOR and AOR together.
Would you suggest managing the region using goal of transaction or both ?

Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
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Re: why does WLM Server status change from YES to NO

2013-05-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 23 May 2013 06:05:59 -0500, Horst Sinram wrote:

you could refer to 
ftp://public.dhe.ibm.com/eserver/zseries/zos/wlm/WLM2012Share.pdf 

Excellent !.
Thanks Horst, more than I could have wished for, and in no time at all. If 
you're re-presenting this in Boston, I'll be there seeking enlightenment ... :0)

Shane ...

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Re: Mysterious Abend 0C1

2013-05-23 Thread Peter Relson
It took quite a while but I was glad to see someone finally noticed that 
the PSW is not a PSW, and that the OP noticed this too.

My first thought was that it was perhaps displaying just the 8-byte PSW 
address (not the whole PSW) and that the program had landed above the bar 
in AMODE 64 (in which case it wouldn't be too surprising to get an 0C1 if 
you didn't get some sort of page/segment/region fault). And of course 
seeing the 64-bit GRs would have been interesting in that case, not just 
the 32-bit GRs.

I also noticed that GRs 7-15 as shown appear to have been loaded from 
various low storage locations which is rather bizarre.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: From Linux to MVS via USS and Back

2013-05-23 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
Hi, maybe I'm over-semplifying:
0. why SFTP an not FTPS?
1. yes you can, what about surrogate
userhttp://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.icha700%2Fsurru.htm
s?
2. do you really need this monitor if you can start and control a trigger?
3. I don't know if Control-M does but YOU can, so ask at your
site if someone came across before to code something new
4. using FTPS you can do what you want, I don't know SFTP
5. as 4 and if you can't you may decide to expose BDW and RDW with a SORT:
it's easy
6. = 3.

Regards,
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z/OS Unix sysplex filesystem directory standards?

2013-05-23 Thread Jousma, David
All,

(warning, long post)

Getting ready to take the plunge and implement Unix Shared filesystems with 
SYSPLEX Root, etc.   Part of this effort is going to have to include some file 
system cleanup.  We have the typical Serverpac supplied SYSRES filesystems, 
no problem there.  But we also have a collection of stuff that has been added 
over the years, like ISV file systems, extra versions of JAVA no longer 
supplied by serverpac, HOME directories for TECH support staff, local 
filesystems for whatever, etc.

What I am looking for is some documentation or industry standards - if there 
are any, on what the recommended placement in the directory structure is.   I'm 
also looking for some examples of others implementation of SYSPLEX Root?   The 
Chapter 7 of the FM is a short 30 pages, and lacks enough real world examples.  
Like I said, I'm good with the IBM supplied filesystems related to the SYSRES.  
That's a no brainer.  It's our add-on stuff I need to deal with.

For Example, today's setup:

/u - mostly home directories for the few users that we have in Unix, but has 
also been a scratch pad for SMPE work space.   Does not currently have a 
automount policy.   Ultimately, want this automount controlled, and in the 
SYSPLEX root as IBM suggests, so that Unix uses truly have ONE home filesystem, 
regardless of which system they are on.

/opt/(something) - we are currently using this for non-serverpac supplied 
copies of JAVA, and other software TOMCAT, JSPWIKI, etc.Would still like 
local copies per system of these file systems, but /opt gets mapped to $VERSION 
in the SYSPLEX root, not to the System specific due to the IBM supplied 
symbolic links.

/usr/opt - file system created, mounted, but empty.  Same issue with regards to 
where it gets mounted.  Would still like local copies per system of these file 
systems, but /usr gets mapped to $VERSION in the SYSPLEX root, not to the 
System specific due to the IBM supplied symbolic links.

/usr/local - file system created, mounted, but empty. Same issue with regards 
to where it gets mounted.  Would still like local copies per system of these 
file systems, but /usr gets mapped to $VERSION in the SYSPLEX root, not to the 
System specific due to the IBM supplied symbolic links.


With SYSPLEX Root, and filesharing, the new root looks like:

# cd /
# ls -al
total 12
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP9 May 23 07:34 $SYSNAME - $SYSNAME/
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP9 May 23 07:34 $VERSION - $VERSION/
drwxr-xr-x   6 E008058  OMVSGRP  768 May 23 07:37 .
drwxr-xr-x   6 E008058  OMVSGRP  768 May 23 07:37 ..
drwxr-xr-x   2 E008058  OMVSGRP  256 May 23 07:34 ...
-rw---   1 E008058  OMVSGRP0 May 23 07:37 .sh_history
drwxr-xr-x  18 E008058  OMVSGRP  896 Jul 24  2012 RSTT2A
drwxr-xr-x   6 E008058  OMVSGRP  544 May 23 07:33 TEC5
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP   12 May 23 07:34 bin - $VERSION/bin
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP   12 May 23 07:34 dev - $SYSNAME/dev
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP   12 May 23 07:34 etc - $SYSNAME/etc
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP   12 May 23 07:34 lib - $VERSION/lib
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP   12 May 23 07:34 opt - $VERSION/opt
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP   16 May 23 07:34 samples - 
$VERSION/samples
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP   12 May 23 07:34 tmp - $SYSNAME/tmp
drwxr-xr-x   5 E008058  OMVSGRP  704 May 23 08:00 u
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP   12 May 23 07:34 usr - $VERSION/usr
lrwxrwxrwx   1 E008058  OMVSGRP   12 May 23 07:34 var - $SYSNAME/var

So, systems, I truly want local to that system now need to be mounted to 
$SYSNAME/(something), but NOT /usr/(something), or /opt/(something) since 
that gets a symbolic link back to the $VERSION (which) is the old ROOT 
filesystem before doing sysplex sharing.

Would it be as simple as adding extra symbolic links to the root file system?  
Something like:

Usr/local - $SYSNAME/usr/local
Usr/opt - $SYSNAME/usr/opt
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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The suggested solutions presented here wasn't appropriate to solve the problem.
(Unless an extreme overallocation can be seen as a solution.)

Nothing seems like a solution to those who don't listen.
There were many suggestions supplied.
NOT were over allocations.

Since nobody supplied a one size-fits-all, magic bullet, I guess your needs 
weren't met.
After all, all of the suggestions required some work on your part.

Don't ever expect any suggestions from me anymore.
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SocGen private bank completes two-year project to migrate core banking system to the cloud

2013-05-23 Thread Phil Smith
http://www.finextra.com/News/FullStory.aspx?newsitemid=24852

Interesting. Raises lots of questions for us geeks, of course...
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Re: SocGen private bank completes two-year project to migrate core banking system to the cloud

2013-05-23 Thread DASDBILL2
Is SocGen the last known user of ISAM for production files?  How are they 
really accessing their ISAM files? 


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Re: From Linux to MVS via USS and Back

2013-05-23 Thread Roberts, John J
. 1.   Is it possible for a z/OS UNIX Shell Script to SUBMIT an MVS JOB?  
I know I can do plain FTP with FILETYPE=JES.  But is there a more direct way 
that doesn't involve putting plain text passwords on the wire?

If you are running a z/OS UNIX shell, you can submit a job using /bin/submit. 
This is a standard z/OS UNIX command in at least z/OS
1.12 and above. This can submit from a z/OS UNIX resident UNIX file or from 
stdin, if no file is specified in the UNIX command line.

/bin/submit seems to do the trick.  And I note that it propagates the 
submitter's userid, so no need for USER= and PASSWORD= on the JOB card.  Thanks 
John for the tip.

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Re: SocGen private bank completes two-year project to migrate core banking system to the cloud

2013-05-23 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2013-05-23 16:09, DASDBILL2 pisze:

Is SocGen the last known user of ISAM for production files?  How are they 
really accessing their ISAM files?



Possible explanations:

1. Are they really users of ISAM?
Hint: it could be VSAM or anything else, mismatched by the journalist.

2. AFAIK it is still possible and supported to use IIP, so application 
developed for ISAM works transparently with VSAM files.


3. It is also possible to stop at last system level supporting ISAM 
files. AFAIK it would be z/OS. I'm aware of some living OS/390 
installations.




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Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)

2013-05-23 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 5/22/2013 11:38 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:

By the way, when IBM announced the Mainframe Charter 10 years ago, it
promised to deliver on a few important principles. One of the most
important was to improve the value of zSeries (now zEnterprise). Very
importantly, IBM did not specify exactly what form those ongoing
improvements would take, at least in part because IBM couldn't predict
everything. I'm pretty sure IBM didn't predict the DB2 Analytics
Accelerator in 2003, for example -- at least not in detail. IBM hasn't
issued many charters -- maybe two? -- and I think many observers missed how
seriously IBM took (and takes) the Mainframe Charter.


I really liked the Mainframe Charter. It was a great way to kick-off the 
mainframe's 40th anniversary celebrations!


I was disappointed when IBM started systematically scrubbing away every 
trace of the Mainframe Charter from its web sites. (Fortunately, they 
left this FAQ that explains what it was all about: 
http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_faq.pdf).


I hope they plan to do another all new one next year to help celebrate 
the mainframe's 50th anniversary!


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Re: TN3270 connectivity

2013-05-23 Thread John McKown
We use TN3270 USSTCP entry in the BEGINVTAM section to display the
equivalent of the old VTAM USS message 10 screen.

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote:
 For those of you who do not use a session manager to connect to TN3270, do
 any of you use the Telnet Solicitor or do you code your own USS logon
 screen. What are the pros and cons of each method.

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Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)

2013-05-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Gee, thanks, Ed.  You mentioned the link below and I get a 404 error.  You told 
IBM it was there so they scrubbed it too!  grin

Seriously, I got a 404 not found error using the link.  I found it here:

http://www-07.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_faq.pdf


Rex

-Original Message-
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Of Ed Jaffe
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)

On 5/22/2013 11:38 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
 By the way, when IBM announced the Mainframe Charter 10 years ago, it
 promised to deliver on a few important principles. One of the most
 important was to improve the value of zSeries (now zEnterprise). Very
 importantly, IBM did not specify exactly what form those ongoing
 improvements would take, at least in part because IBM couldn't predict
 everything. I'm pretty sure IBM didn't predict the DB2 Analytics
 Accelerator in 2003, for example -- at least not in detail. IBM hasn't
 issued many charters -- maybe two? -- and I think many observers missed how
 seriously IBM took (and takes) the Mainframe Charter.

I really liked the Mainframe Charter. It was a great way to kick-off the
mainframe's 40th anniversary celebrations!

I was disappointed when IBM started systematically scrubbing away every
trace of the Mainframe Charter from its web sites. (Fortunately, they
left this FAQ that explains what it was all about:
http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_faq.pdf).

I hope they plan to do another all new one next year to help celebrate
the mainframe's 50th anniversary!

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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:55 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:

The system should allocate/reallocate according to what is 
needed in the actual/immediate need for the dataset without 
dumping the problem to the user!  (Of course limited by 
appropriate resource constraints.)

For situations like that, I like to use an allocation like CYL,(1,100). 
Allocate a small primary and a much larger secondary.  Maybe 
also allowing multiple volumes.

Perhaps another useful construct would be an allocation where 
each secondary extent was bigger than the previous. 
SMS would have a hard time with such a data set though.

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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Joel C. Ewing

On 05/23/2013 09:44 AM, Thomas Berg wrote:

To clarify.

I wrote:

What is REALLY needed is to get rid of the absurd requirement to specify the 
amount of storage to allocate for datasets!

The system should allocate/reallocate according to what is needed in the 
actual/immediate need for the dataset without dumping the problem to the user!  (Of 
course limited by appropriate resource constraints.)


With that I meant:

1. That there is many cases where an unspecified/undeterminable amount of space 
is needed for an allocation.

2. That because of the undeterminable status (which can be because it's 
exactly undeterminable or not possible to spend the amount of time to make it 
determinable) you can't make any rule of how much space it will request at run time.

3. That any ACS rules or other techniques (other than products that catches a 
x37 at run time) therefore is of limited help.

4. That if IBM have a function that catches an out of space condition and 
extend the allocated space to the current need it would save an enormous amount 
of time spend at correcting the error and rerun the jobs.

5. That *limiting* the use of space should not depend on what is written in the 
SPACE parm.  Rather that it's something that any sort of quotas (ACS maybe) 
connected to the userid and datasetname should handle.

6. This is - more or less - how it works in e g the Unix world.  And they are 
maybe not insane ?



Regards
Thomas Berg

Thomas Berg   Specialist   z/OS\RQM\IT Delivery   SWEDBANK AB (Publ)



The problem is in the definition of appropriate resource constraints.  
It needs to be something more complex than just putting a total space 
constraint on an individual user, as even individual users engage in 
actions of different priority and different degrees of certainty.  To me 
it would be inappropriate if a typical debugging run caught in a loop 
could exhaust a users space allotment and then cause that user's TSO 
session or his batch jobs doing standard compiles to fail.  I would also 
find it inappropriate if the defaults did not provide a reasonable way 
to communicate to a user that he has greatly exceeded usual DASD space 
usage patterns, because more often than not this is an indicatioh of a 
bug or some error in judgement that needs to be addressed rather than 
throwing more resources at the job.  There needs to be some kind of 
multi-tiered approach where the type of job step and/or user specified 
categorization of data sets  enters into the limit determination for 
individual data sets, and while allowing mechanisms for unusally large 
data sets perhaps also at some point require manual intervention of some 
kind to allow a process to allocate more space and continue, when the 
size of such data sets is seen as a potential threat to future 
allocation by either that user or other users.


Users should not have to worry about how many volumes are required, or 
about limitations on number of extents per volume, or about volume 
fragmentation; but data set allocation limits must still protect users 
and jobs from each other and not needlessly waste resources in over 
allocation.  In a z/OS environment that may service many different 
groups of loved ones, overall availability of the system is more 
important than just the convenience of an individual user.


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Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)

2013-05-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
Do you have a firewall issue?  I was able to use this link to get to the
document.

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)

Gee, thanks, Ed.  You mentioned the link below and I get a 404 error.  You
told IBM it was there so they scrubbed it too!  grin

Seriously, I got a 404 not found error using the link.  I found it here:

http://www-07.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_fa
q.pdf


Rex

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Behalf Of Ed Jaffe
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)

On 5/22/2013 11:38 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
 By the way, when IBM announced the Mainframe Charter 10 years ago, it 
 promised to deliver on a few important principles. One of the most 
 important was to improve the value of zSeries (now zEnterprise). Very 
 importantly, IBM did not specify exactly what form those ongoing 
 improvements would take, at least in part because IBM couldn't predict 
 everything. I'm pretty sure IBM didn't predict the DB2 Analytics 
 Accelerator in 2003, for example -- at least not in detail. IBM hasn't 
 issued many charters -- maybe two? -- and I think many observers 
 missed how seriously IBM took (and takes) the Mainframe Charter.

I really liked the Mainframe Charter. It was a great way to kick-off the
mainframe's 40th anniversary celebrations!

I was disappointed when IBM started systematically scrubbing away every
trace of the Mainframe Charter from its web sites. (Fortunately, they left
this FAQ that explains what it was all about:
http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_faq.p
df).

I hope they plan to do another all new one next year to help celebrate the
mainframe's 50th anniversary!

--
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Phoenix Software International, Inc
831 Parkview Drive North
El Segundo, CA 90245

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Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)

2013-05-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Just a bit of clarification.  I got the 404 error using the link Ed had 
provided.  When I changed the www. to www-07. I was able to get the PDF.

The firewall question Liz asked was the first thing that popped into my mind as 
well (along with blocked sites, etc) so I sent ED's e-mail to my home address 
which has nothing blocked, and I got the 404 there as well.  That was when I 
searched IBM-land and got the hit using the www-07 link.

Great list - I've definitely gotten more help from it than I have been able to 
return.

Rex

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)

Do you have a firewall issue?  I was able to use this link to get to the
document.

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R.
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)

Gee, thanks, Ed.  You mentioned the link below and I get a 404 error.  You
told IBM it was there so they scrubbed it too!  grin

Seriously, I got a 404 not found error using the link.  I found it here:

http://www-07.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_fa
q.pdf


Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Ed Jaffe
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:52 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe Charter (Was: Predict WLC invoice amount ...)

On 5/22/2013 11:38 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
 By the way, when IBM announced the Mainframe Charter 10 years ago, it
 promised to deliver on a few important principles. One of the most
 important was to improve the value of zSeries (now zEnterprise). Very
 importantly, IBM did not specify exactly what form those ongoing
 improvements would take, at least in part because IBM couldn't predict
 everything. I'm pretty sure IBM didn't predict the DB2 Analytics
 Accelerator in 2003, for example -- at least not in detail. IBM hasn't
 issued many charters -- maybe two? -- and I think many observers
 missed how seriously IBM took (and takes) the Mainframe Charter.

I really liked the Mainframe Charter. It was a great way to kick-off the
mainframe's 40th anniversary celebrations!

I was disappointed when IBM started systematically scrubbing away every
trace of the Mainframe Charter from its web sites. (Fortunately, they left
this FAQ that explains what it was all about:
http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/includes/download/mainframe_charter_faq.p
df).

I hope they plan to do another all new one next year to help celebrate the
mainframe's 50th anniversary!

--
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Phoenix Software International, Inc
831 Parkview Drive North
El Segundo, CA 90245

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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
That is a concept that DB2 uses.  It can start at 1 cylinder and increase the 
secondary by 1 on each extend.

If you changed the SPACE parameter to accept:

SPACE=(unit,(n,+m,...
Where unit = TRK/CYL/etc and n=Primary allocation and +m is the initial 
secondary amount and increment

That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.

Amount per allocation - 10  5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  
70  75
Total allocation10 15  25  40  60  85 115 150 190 235 285 340 400 465 
535 610

This might be attractive for an EA enabled data set where even a 
SPACE=(CYL,(10,+10)) gets you to about 75,030 cylinders in 123 extents.

Chris Blaicher
Principal Software Engineer, Software Development
Syncsort Incorporated
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E: cblaic...@syncsort.com

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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:55 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:

The system should allocate/reallocate according to what is needed in
the actual/immediate need for the dataset without dumping the problem
to the user!  (Of course limited by appropriate resource constraints.)

For situations like that, I like to use an allocation like CYL,(1,100).
Allocate a small primary and a much larger secondary.  Maybe also allowing 
multiple volumes.

Perhaps another useful construct would be an allocation where each secondary 
extent was bigger than the previous.
SMS would have a hard time with such a data set though.

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Re: I/O Optimization (was: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF ...)

2013-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9433992692961071.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
05/22/2013
   at 03:42 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 14:25:46 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: 
   at 07:36 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

SYSCALL for the UNIX files; BPXWDYN/EXECIO for the legacy.

In your ADDRESS SYSCALL read, what length do you specify? In your
ADDRESS TSO EXECIO, what do you specify for lines?
  
Minimal, in order to let the ALLOCATE/OPEN/CLOSE overhead
dominate.

Using minimal lengths drives up the other overhead, unless you're
closing it each time. If you want to to let the ALLOCATE/OPEN/CLOSE
overhead dominate, read it all in one swell foop.

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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e628f2b31b...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se,
on 05/23/2013
   at 11:53 AM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se said:

There is a problem that is solved by a simple solution, the one that
I proposed IBM should do.

To every question there is an answer that is obvious, simple and
wrong.

The suggested blames and solutions presented here wasn't appropriate
to solve the problem.

Au contraire, blindly guessing at fixes before you understand the
problem guaranties more problems.

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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Thomas Berg
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
 Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 5:53 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK
 datasets
 
 In
 a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e628f2b31b...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se
 ,
 on 05/23/2013
at 11:53 AM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se said:
 
 There is a problem that is solved by a simple solution, the one that I
 proposed IBM should do.
 
 To every question there is an answer that is obvious, simple and wrong. 

In this case because... ?
 
 The suggested blames and solutions presented here wasn't appropriate
 to
 solve the problem.
 
 Au contraire, blindly guessing at fixes before you understand the
 problem guaranties more problems.

How do you know I don't understand the problem ? 



Regards
Thomas Berg

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CICS Transaction 'QKVA' is not recognized

2013-05-23 Thread Graham Hobbs

Hello,

My question is about finding a solution to:
 DFHAC2001 05/22/2013 21:09:19 CICSTS42 Transaction 'QKVA' is not 
recognized.

  Check that the transaction name is correct.

Long technical post, very sorry, not a sysprog, at Dallas VIC, z/OS, 
CICSTS42 and struggling to make my first CICS transaction at Dallas 
work. Have pored over docs but clearly missed something. In my old app 
programmer days I'd call the CICS guy (now me (yuk)). The DFHAC2001 only 
told me am missing something and being fearful of having to do something 
radical to some DFH420 file:-(( so 'nth' degree steps would be priceless 
.. might someone give me clues?


.. details: all programs, maps, transid's and KSDS files are loaded via 
a batch DFHCSDUP (part of an automated process thus RDO is not on) e.g ..


//DFHCSDUP EXEC PGM=DFHCSDUP,REGION=1M,
// PARM='CSD(READWRITE),PAGESIZE(60),NOCOMPAT'
//STEPLIB  DD DSN=DFH420.CICS.SDFHLOAD,DISP=SHR
//DFHCSD   DD DSN=DFH420.DFHCSD,DISP=SHR
//OUTDDDD SYSOUT=*
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
DELETE PROGRAM(QKVSP01) GROUP(GROUP1)
DEFINE PROGRAM(QKVSP01) GROUP(GROUP1)
TRANSID(QKVA)
LANGUAGE(COBOL)
DESCRIPTION(Main_menu_pgm)
DELETE TRANSACTION(QKVA) GROUP(GROUP1)
DEFINE TRANSACTION(QKVA) GROUP(GROUP1)
 PROGRAM(QKVSP01)
 DESCRIPTION(Main_menu_pgm)
//

.. which worked ok but since QKVA didn't work, reading told me I needed ..

CEDA ADD GROUP(GROUP1) LIST(INITLIST)

.. which seemed to work; knowing XYZLIST exists at Dallas, to learn what 
to expect, did ..


D LIST(XYZLIST)

   NAME TYPE LIST LAST CHANGE
   DFHDCTG  GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   DFHBMS   GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   DFHCONS  GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   DFHDBCTL GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   DFHDB2   GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   DFHEDF   GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   etc

.. and found the above; did the same for my INITLIST and got ..

D LIST(INITLIST)

   NAME TYPE LIST LAST CHANGE
   GROUP1   GROUPINITLIST 05/22/13 19:24:21

.. which looks OK to me BUT didn't show any GROUP1 entries so I did ..

D GROUP(GROUP1)
  ENTER COMMANDS
   NAME TYPE GROUPLAST CHANGE
   QKVSKEYA FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
   QKVSKEYB FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
   QKVSKEYC FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
   QKVSHE1  MAPSET   GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
   QKVSHE2  MAPSET   GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
   etc
   QKVSP01  PROGRAM  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
   QKVSP02  PROGRAM  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
   etc
   QKVA TRANSACTION  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
   QKVB TRANSACTION  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
   etc

.. which also looks good ..

Novice thinking is asking why D LIST(INITLIST) doesn't show my GROUP1 
things? I have shut down CICS, reloaded via the DFHCSDUP, done 
START=INITIAL, various combos thereof .. nothing!


Please, thanks
Graham Hobbs


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Re: I/O Optimization (was: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF ...)

2013-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 23 May 2013 11:44:58 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

In your ADDRESS SYSCALL read, what length do you specify? In your
ADDRESS TSO EXECIO, what do you specify for lines?

Minimal, in order to let the ALLOCATE/OPEN/CLOSE overhead
dominate.

Using minimal lengths drives up the other overhead, unless you're
closing it each time. If you want to to let the ALLOCATE/OPEN/CLOSE
overhead dominate, read it all in one swell foop.
 
I did.

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Re: CICS Transaction 'QKVA' is not recognized

2013-05-23 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

Have you installed the GROUP1 ?
CEDA INST G(GROUP1)
If you had you can see with CEMT INQ TRANS(QKVA)
If you don't see check the MSGLOG for any errors


On 23.05.2013 18:37, Graham Hobbs wrote:

Hello,

My question is about finding a solution to:
 DFHAC2001 05/22/2013 21:09:19 CICSTS42 Transaction 'QKVA' is not 
recognized.

  Check that the transaction name is correct.

Long technical post, very sorry, not a sysprog, at Dallas VIC, z/OS, 
CICSTS42 and struggling to make my first CICS transaction at Dallas 
work. Have pored over docs but clearly missed something. In my old app 
programmer days I'd call the CICS guy (now me (yuk)). The DFHAC2001 
only told me am missing something and being fearful of having to do 
something radical to some DFH420 file:-(( so 'nth' degree steps would 
be priceless .. might someone give me clues?


.. details: all programs, maps, transid's and KSDS files are loaded 
via a batch DFHCSDUP (part of an automated process thus RDO is not on) 
e.g ..


//DFHCSDUP EXEC PGM=DFHCSDUP,REGION=1M,
// PARM='CSD(READWRITE),PAGESIZE(60),NOCOMPAT'
//STEPLIB  DD DSN=DFH420.CICS.SDFHLOAD,DISP=SHR
//DFHCSD   DD DSN=DFH420.DFHCSD,DISP=SHR
//OUTDDDD SYSOUT=*
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
DELETE PROGRAM(QKVSP01) GROUP(GROUP1)
DEFINE PROGRAM(QKVSP01) GROUP(GROUP1)
TRANSID(QKVA)
LANGUAGE(COBOL)
DESCRIPTION(Main_menu_pgm)
DELETE TRANSACTION(QKVA) GROUP(GROUP1)
DEFINE TRANSACTION(QKVA) GROUP(GROUP1)
 PROGRAM(QKVSP01)
 DESCRIPTION(Main_menu_pgm)
//

.. which worked ok but since QKVA didn't work, reading told me I 
needed ..


CEDA ADD GROUP(GROUP1) LIST(INITLIST)

.. which seemed to work; knowing XYZLIST exists at Dallas, to learn 
what to expect, did ..


D LIST(XYZLIST)

   NAME TYPE LIST LAST CHANGE
   DFHDCTG  GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   DFHBMS   GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   DFHCONS  GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   DFHDBCTL GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   DFHDB2   GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   DFHEDF   GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
   etc

.. and found the above; did the same for my INITLIST and got ..

D LIST(INITLIST)

   NAME TYPE LIST LAST CHANGE
   GROUP1   GROUPINITLIST 05/22/13 19:24:21

.. which looks OK to me BUT didn't show any GROUP1 entries so I did ..

D GROUP(GROUP1)
  ENTER COMMANDS
   NAME TYPE GROUPLAST CHANGE
   QKVSKEYA FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
   QKVSKEYB FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
   QKVSKEYC FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
   QKVSHE1  MAPSET   GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
   QKVSHE2  MAPSET   GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
   etc
   QKVSP01  PROGRAM  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
   QKVSP02  PROGRAM  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
   etc
   QKVA TRANSACTION  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
   QKVB TRANSACTION  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
   etc

.. which also looks good ..

Novice thinking is asking why D LIST(INITLIST) doesn't show my GROUP1 
things? I have shut down CICS, reloaded via the DFHCSDUP, done 
START=INITIAL, various combos thereof .. nothing!


Please, thanks
Graham Hobbs


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Re: zLinux - redhat 7.1 setup on IFL (eth0 error)

2013-05-23 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Would suggest to go to the LINUX-390 list:
linux-...@vm.marist.edu
On 23.05.2013 18:16, de Wet, Albertus H wrote:

Trying to setup a Redhat 7.1 image on an IFL.
Get it to boot from the HMC's CDROM.

Reply to enter the network device, as eth0 and also tried qeth

For the address I enter:
qeth,0x3F00

When I reply to the eth0 / qeth (OSA Express card) I get these messages:
“Each OSA-Express feature in QDIO mode must be associated with a port name.
Please enter additional parameters for your QETH device
(e.g. add_parms,o0x10,{lo_devno,hi_devno},portname:port_name)

When I reply the the message with:
add_parms,0x3F,00,03,portname:OSA03F00

I get this message back:
chandev_setup bad argument  qeth,0x3F00 on line no 1 interpreted as qeth,0x3F00.
type man chandev for more info

And obviously I cannot connect to the OSA express card, even after supplying 
the rest of the IP settings.

Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?

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z/OS Unix System Services Backups

2013-05-23 Thread Mike Schwab
z/TSM has been obsolete, is going out of support, and may or may not
work on z/OS 2.1.
We backup the root system on the IPL volumes with ADRDSSU.
The system HFS/zFS are backed up with ADRDSSU Logical, and is OK since
they don't have running applications.

Application HFS/zFS are backed up with z/TSM and attempts to use
ADRDSSU resulted in hangs due to the quiescent request.

z/TSM is being used, has been obsolete, is going out of support, and
may not work on z/OS 2.1.

Does anyone have a comparison of the backup and restore alternatives
that work while the application is running?
TSM on AIX,
FDR Upstream Unix,
CA Disk Backup and Restore for Unix System Services,
Others?

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Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups

2013-05-23 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 5/23/2013 9:57 AM, Mike Schwab wrote:

z/TSM is being used, has been obsolete, is going out of support, and
may not work on z/OS 2.1.

Does anyone have a comparison of the backup and restore alternatives
that work while the application is running?
TSM on AIX,
FDR Upstream Unix,
CA Disk Backup and Restore for Unix System Services,
Others?


After IBM stabilized TSM for z/OS at the 5.5 level, we deployed a 
hipersocket-connected RHEL Linux for z image where we currently run TSM 
6.2. What's nice is that we can still use TSM clients on z/OS for both 
backup and administrative purposes and TSM still uses host-attached tape 
drives.


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Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups

2013-05-23 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
We had a similar dilemma (although never used TSM). The ADRDSSU backups were 
disruptive to our applications. 
We've considered using Flashcopy for the backups, but as far as I can tell we 
can't do a logical backup that way, and the reality is that we typically need 1 
or more files from a backup, not the whole filesystem. 

At the moment we use a pax script to back up to sequential datasets which are 
then archived by HSM.

It works, but it's not pretty, and I hope your question results in some better 
alternatives.

Bart

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Subject: z/OS Unix System Services Backups

z/TSM has been obsolete, is going out of support, and may or may not
work on z/OS 2.1.
We backup the root system on the IPL volumes with ADRDSSU.
The system HFS/zFS are backed up with ADRDSSU Logical, and is OK since
they don't have running applications.

Application HFS/zFS are backed up with z/TSM and attempts to use
ADRDSSU resulted in hangs due to the quiescent request.

z/TSM is being used, has been obsolete, is going out of support, and
may not work on z/OS 2.1.

Does anyone have a comparison of the backup and restore alternatives
that work while the application is running?
TSM on AIX,
FDR Upstream Unix,
CA Disk Backup and Restore for Unix System Services,
Others?

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Re: zLinux - redhat 7.1 setup on IFL (eth0 error)

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Post
 On 5/23/2013 at 12:16 PM, de Wet, Albertus H dewe...@ghc.org wrote: 
 Trying to setup a Redhat 7.1 image on an IFL.
 Get it to boot from the HMC's CDROM.
 
 Reply to enter the network device, as eth0 and also tried qeth
 
 For the address I enter:
 qeth,0x3F00
 
 When I reply to the eth0 / qeth (OSA Express card) I get these messages:
 *Each OSA-Express feature in QDIO mode must be associated with a port name.
 Please enter additional parameters for your QETH device
 (e.g. add_parms,o0x10,{lo_devno,hi_devno},portname:port_name)
 
 When I reply the the message with: 
 add_parms,0x3F,00,03,portname:OSA03F00
 
 I get this message back:
 chandev_setup bad argument  qeth,0x3F00 on line no 1 interpreted as 
 qeth,0x3F00.
 type man chandev for more info
 
 And obviously I cannot connect to the OSA express card, even after supplying 
 the rest of the IP settings.
 
 Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?

Mainly, you're trying to install a decade-old operating system that wasn't in 
very good shape to start with.  Try downloading a current version of RHEL or 
SLES and you're much more likely to be successful.

The suggestion to subscribe to linux-390 by Miklos is a good idea also.  That's 
where most of the mainframe Linux people hang out.


Mark Post

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Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Post
 On 5/23/2013 at 01:17 PM, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: 

 After IBM stabilized TSM for z/OS at the 5.5 level, we deployed a 
 hipersocket-connected RHEL Linux for z image where we currently run TSM 
 6.2. What's nice is that we can still use TSM clients on z/OS for both 
 backup and administrative purposes and TSM still uses host-attached tape 
 drives.

How did you pull off using host-attached tapes when IBM says TSM on Linux for 
System z doesn't support that?


Mark Post

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Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups

2013-05-23 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com wrote:

 We backup all of our zFS file systems with ADRDSSU logical backups and have
 never had any problems. Can you post a sample DFDSS job step (with control
 cards) for people to look at?

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-SPRX054  STEP02  04   4905   115K   .00   .002.1 40607
IEF233A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02,,MEDIA4
TMS001  IEF233A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02,,MEDIA4,IDCVVLT.WOMVSX.G0063V00
IECTMS9 A0D6,K35560,IDCCLWX3,TAPE1   ,CATLG/006 ,1,T.WOMVSX.G0063V00
IEC705I TAPE ON A0D6,K35560,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,MEDIA4
IEC502E K A0D6,K35560,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02
TMS014  IEC502E K A0D6,K35560,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02
IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4
TMS001  IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4
IECTMS9 A0D6,Q07554,IDCCLWX3,TAPE1   ,CATLG/006 ,1,T.WOMVSX.G0063V00
IEC705I TAPE ON A0D6,Q07554,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,MEDIA4
IEC502E K A0D6,Q07554,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02
TMS014  IEC502E K A0D6,Q07554,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02
IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4
TMS001  IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4
IECTMS9 A0D6,Q08449,IDCCLWX3,TAPE1   ,CATLG/006 ,1,T.WOMVSX.G0063V00
IEC705I TAPE ON A0D6,Q08449,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,MEDIA4
IEC502E K A0D6,Q08449,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02
TMS014  IEC502E K A0D6,Q08449,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02
IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4
TMS001  IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4
IECTMS9 A0D6,M11531,IDCCLWX3,TAPE1   ,CATLG/006 ,1,T.WOMVSX.G0063V00
IEC705I TAPE ON A0D6,M11531,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,MEDIA4
IEC502E K A0D6,M11531,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02
TMS014  IEC502E K A0D6,M11531,SL,IDCCLWX3,STEP02
IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4
TMS001  IEC501A M A0D6,PRIVAT,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,,MEDIA4
IECTMS9 A0D6,J86929,IDCCLWX3,TAPE1   ,CATLG/006 ,1,T.WOMVSX.G0063V00
IEC705I TAPE ON A0D6,J86929,SL,COMP,IDCCLWX3,STEP02.SOMVSX,MEDIA4
IEC205I TAPE1,IDCCLWX3,STEP02,FILESEQ=1, COMPLETE VOLUME LIST,  209
VOLS=K35560,Q07554,Q08449,M11531,J86929,TOTALBLOCKS=707025
IEF234E K A0D6,J86929,PVT,IDCCLWX3,STEP02
-SOMVSX   STEP02  00  3957K 14537K   .90   .23  265.8   7090889

//*
//* IDCOMVS  DS FOR 'X' SYSTEM
//**SOMVSX*
//SOMVSX   EXEC VBACKUP,VOL1=OMVSX,PARM='ABEND=960'
XXVBACKUP PROC EXPDT1=90006,UNIT1=VTAPE,TYPE1=W,MEM1=DUMPPHY1,
XX*VBACKUP PROC RETPD1=27,UNIT1=CART2,TYPE1=W,MEM1=DUMPPHY1,
XXPREFIX=IDCVVLT,GEN='(+1)',DISP1='NEW,CATLG,DELETE'
XX IDCRMGS.PROCLIB(VBACKUP)
XXSTEP02  EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,COND=EVEN,PARM='ABEND=415'
XXSYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
XXSYSMDUMP DD  SYSOUT=*
XXTAPE1DD  DSN=PREFIX..TYPE1VOL1GEN,LABEL=EXPDT=EXPDT1,
XX*TAPE1DD  DSN=PREFIX..TYPE1VOL1(GEN),RETPD=RETPD1,
XX DCB=(IDCRMGS.MODLDSCB),DISP=(DISP1),
XX UNIT=UNIT1,VOL=(,,,10)
IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DSN=IDCVVLT.WOMVSX(+1),LABEL=EXPDT=90006,
DCB=(IDCRMGS.MODLDSCB),DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=VTAPE,VOL=(,,,10)
//SYSIN DD  *
X/SYSINDD  DSN=IDCRMGS.PARMLIB(MEM1),DISP=SHR
//*
PAGE 0001 5695-DF175  DFSMSDSS V1R13.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2013.138 03:13
ADR004I (SCH)-PRIME(01), USER ABEND 0001 WILL BE ISSUED ON OCCURRENCE
0001 OF MESSAGE ADR960
 DUMP ODD(TAPE1) TOL(ENQF) -
 DS(INCL(*OMVS.SYSX.**,*OMVSX.SYSX.**) -
EXCL(IDCOMVSX.SYSX.TMP.*,IDCOMVSX.SYSX.TMPX.*))
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'DUMP '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2013.138 03:13:39 INITIAL SCAN OF USER
CONTROL STATEMENTS COMPLETED
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2013.138 03:13:39 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR801I (001)-DTDSC(01), 2013.138 07:39:28 DATA SET FILTERING IS
COMPLETE. 57 OF 57 DATA SETS WERE SELECTED: 0 FAILED SERIALIZATION
 AND 0 FAILED FOR OTHER REASONS
ADR454I (001)-DTDSC(01), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED
  CLUSTER NAME   BESOMVS.SYSX.BESPROD.WEBLOGS.ZFS
  CATALOG NAME   ICFCAT.BESSHR
  COMPONENT NAME BESOMVS.SYSX.BESPROD.WEBLOGS.ZFS.DATA
  CLUSTER NAME   BESOMVS.SYSX.BESPROD.ZFS
  CATALOG NAME   ICFCAT.BESSHR
...
  CATALOG NAME   ICFCAT.MHDSHR
  COMPONENT NAME MHDOMVS.SYSX.MHD5662.ZFSTRY.DATA
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2013.138 07:39:28 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2013.138 07:39:28 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 
ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2013.138 07:39:28 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING
COMPLETE. HIGHEST RETURN CODE IS 

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Re: TSO Logon looking for UADS on wrong volume

2013-05-23 Thread Staller, Allan
I suspect the LOGON clist is different between the 2 images. Check the parm 
field of the logon proc.
In particular, the logon clist on LPAR1 is different than LPAR2 (content, not 
name). 

The LPAR1 clist probably creates a dataset if not present.  The LPAR2 clist 
does not.
This may also be due to  a lpar specific clist higher in the concat.
e.g. SYS1.LPAR.CLIST 
 SYS1.SYSPLEX.CLIST

HTH,

snip
We have 2 systems in a basic sysplex, sharing everything: RACFDB, JES2, Master 
catalog, Parmlibs etc.  The only differences between the sytems is that they 
are each on a different CEC,  and one system has a few licensed products that 
the other doesn't such as MQ, Syncsort,  Qwikref.

We define a new user to RACF,  and all options defined on TSO segment.  New 
user can logon to system 1 successfully.  Then logon to system 2 successfully.  
Everybody is happy.  If the new user tries to log onto system 2 *first*  the 
logon fails with:

snippage 

IF the user goes back and logs onto system #1,  it is successful.  THen back to 
system #2,  now it's successful too.

There are very few differences between these systems.  Everyone uses RACF for 
TSO logon, the only thing in uads is IBMUSER0.  SYS1.UADS is catalogged in the 
shared master catalog on a different volume,  Z13RES is the currently IPLed 
sysres volume.  MSTJCL00 contains:

//SYSUADS DD DSN=SYS1.UADS,DISP=SHR

I can't find anywhere uads is referenced by volser,  or ** or SYSR1 or 
anyting.  I cannot explain why initial logon works on one system and not the 
other.  Does anybody have ideas of what else to check?  I've about run out of 
things to look at.
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Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups

2013-05-23 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 5/23/2013 10:43 AM, Mark Post wrote:

After IBM stabilized TSM for z/OS at the 5.5 level, we deployed a
hipersocket-connected RHEL Linux for z image where we currently run TSM
6.2. What's nice is that we can still use TSM clients on z/OS for both
backup and administrative purposes and TSM still uses host-attached tape
drives.

How did you pull off using host-attached tapes when IBM says TSM on Linux for 
System z doesn't support that?


Sorry. That was a misleading statement. They are the identical host tape 
drives, but we use the FCP attachment for Linux on z instead of the 
traditional FICON attachment that we use for z/OS.


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Re: HSM option

2013-05-23 Thread retired mainframer
Your inconsistent use of terminology makes it difficult to fully understand
the problem.

 Is the new scratch tape requested when performing the backup of
datasets that happen to be on a volume associated with some dump class?  Or
does the situation occur when performing a full volume dump of the volumes
associated with some dump class?

 A dump volume is a tape volume.  Since you retain each dump volume for
16 days and perform your dumps every 7 days, you must have more than two.
Did you mean there are only two DASD volumes associated with the dump class?

 Why do you think the dumps are performed between 0500 and 0600 when
your AUTODUMPSTART operand specifies 0300 to 0400?

Reading between the lines, I will take a stab and assume you are addressing
the issue of stacking (DASD) volume dumps on a single tape volume.  I think
you are misinterpreting the purpose of the STACK(10) operand.  It allows you
to place the dumps of up to ten DIFFERENT DASD volumes on a single tape
during a single dump operation.  It does NOT allow you to place ten
different dumps of the SAME volume on a tape.

If you look at the description of the STACK operand in the HSM Storage
Administration manual (Chapter 36 in my 1.11 copy), you will find:

DFSMShsm selects empty dump volumes as targets for auto or command dump.

and

A given dump volume:
 ...
 Never contains more than one dump copy of the same source volume.
 ...



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::
:: Hello All,
::
::  In HSM, when we are taking backup of dump class volume, it
:: always
:: using scratch tape. But we want to change this configuration, so that I
:: should use existing tape which has data rather then new scratch tape.
::
::
:: We are doing this because we are planning to migrate our 3494 ATL to
:: TS3400
:: tape library . TS3400 Tape library has only 17 data cartridge slot in
:: compare to ATL 3494 has many.  So that whenever HSM takes backup in tape
:: it
:: should use only exsiting data cartridge until it becomes full. Once it
:: becomes full then it should look for new scratch tape.
::
::
:: For doing this configuration, I have made below changes in HSM parmlib
:: member. IN parmlib definition as below for taking dump. Every Wednesday
:: it
:: takes dump between 5 to 6 AM.We have two dump volume in our systems,
::
::
:: DEFINE -
::   DUMPCYCLE(NNNYNNN /* 7-DAY DUMP CYCLE WITH DUMP*/ -
::CYCLESTARTDATE(1992/05/17)) /* DONE ONLY WEDNESDAY*/
:: /*   */
::
::  DEFINE DUMPCLASS(MIGDMP /* FOR CLASS MIGDMP  */ -
::   UNIT(ATL90) /* USE ATL90 DEVICES*/ -
::   RETPD(16)  /* KEEP DUMP COPIES FOR 16 DAYS  */ -
::   AUTOREUSE  /* MAKE VOLUMES AVAIL FOR REUSE  */ -
::   NORESET/* DO NOT RESET CHANGE BIT   */ -
::   STACK(10)  /* 10 DUMP COPIES PER TAPE   */ -
::   NODSRESTORE /* NO SINGLE DATASET RESTORES   */ -
::   FREQUENCY(5) /* MIN DAYS FROM LAST VOL DUMP */ -
::   VTOCCOPIES(1)) /* KEEP 1 VTOC COPY DATASET  */
::  /* THIS DUMP CLASS IS FOR*/
::  /* THE WEEKLY DUMPING OF ML1 */
::  /* VOLUMES   */
::  /*   */
::  SETSYS -
::AUTODUMPSTART(0300 0400)
::  /* PROVIDE TIME TO START AUTO*/
::  /* DUMP, LATE START TIME,*/
::  /* AND QUIESCE TIME.  AUTO DUMP  */
::
:: SETSYS -
:: SELECTVOLUME(
:: BACKUP(SCRATCH)
:: MIGRATION(SCRATCH)
:: DUMP(SCRATCH))
::
::
:: Now I have changed this SCRATCH to SPECFIC using below commands.
::
::
:: HSENDCMD SETSYS SELECTVOLUME (MIGRATION(SPECIFIC))
:: HSENDCMD SETSYS SELECTVOLUME (BACKUP(SPECIFIC))
:: HSENDCMD SETSYS SELECTVOLUME (DUMP(SPECIFIC))
::
::
:: But still I noticed that while taking dump, HSM using scratch tape .
:: Please provide your pointers.

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Re: why does WLM Server status change from YES to NO

2013-05-23 Thread Horst Sinram
we have a single OLTP region, which is TOR and AOR together.
Would you suggest managing the region using goal of transaction or both ?

Walter, in that scenario you would probably stick to TRANSACTION if you're 
satisfied with the way that region is currently managed by the transactions 
running in it.
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Re: TSO Logon looking for UADS on wrong volume

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 23 May 2013 12:40:18 -0500, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote:

We have 2 systems in a basic sysplex, sharing everything: RACFDB, JES2, Master 
catalog, Parmlibs etc.  The only differences between the sytems is that they 
are each on a different CEC,  and one system has a few licensed products that 
the other doesn't such as MQ, Syncsort,  Qwikref.

We define a new user to RACF,  and all options defined on TSO segment.  New 
user can logon to system 1 successfully.  Then logon to system 2 successfully. 
 Everybody is happy.  If the new user tries to log onto system 2 *first*  the 
logon fails with:

IEC143I 213-04,IFG0194D,MSTJCL00,CTPROC,SYSUADS,E39E,Z13RES,SYS1.UADS
IEF170I 3 MPETER3  IEC143I 213-04,IFG0194D,MSTJCL00,CTPROC,SYSUADS,E39   
IKJ601I TSO LOGON ATTEMPTING RETRY. ABEND 213, USER MPETER3 , PROC   
UNKNOWN  
IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT 692  
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=213  REASON CODE=0004 
 TIME=10.21.43  SEQ=59394  CPU=  ASID=0044   
 PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  075C1000   80D081B6  ILC 2  INTC 0D   
   NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
   NAME=UNKNOWN  
   DATA AT PSW  00D081B0 - 4100302C  0A0D010D  A7E50126  
   AR/GR 0: 008FE040/00D08474   1: /A4213000 
 2: /7CD0   3: /00D08448 
 4: /008F2410   5: /008F27A4 
 6: /008F274C   7: /008F27A4 
 8: /008F276C   9: /008F1EC0 
 A: /80D0A7C2   B: /00D0B36A 
 C: /80D0B55C   D: /7FFB4D20 
 E: /80D07A14   F: /0004 
 END OF SYMPTOM DUMP 

IF the user goes back and logs onto system #1,  it is successful.  THen back 
to system #2,  now it's successful too.

There are very few differences between these systems.  Everyone uses RACF for 
TSO logon, the only thing in uads is IBMUSER0.  SYS1.UADS is catalogged in the 
shared master catalog on a different volume,  Z13RES is the currently IPLed 
sysres volume.  MSTJCL00 contains:

//SYSUADS DD DSN=SYS1.UADS,DISP=SHR

I can't find anywhere uads is referenced by volser,  or ** or SYSR1 or 
anyting.  I cannot explain why initial logon works on one system and not the 
other.  Does anybody have ideas of what else to check?  I've about run out of 
things to look at.



These sort of things are often very hard to figure out (it not impossible) 
without
being on the system to poke around or having more doc (which you did not 
provide). 
Some things I would ask for  / look at.

1) Listcat of SYS1.UADS from both systems (even though you say the MCAT is 
shared)

2) CTPROC listing + logon clist listing

3) Are you sure the proc is coming from the same place on both systems

4) Are you sure MSTRJCL=(00) is specified / defaulted in each system?

5) Even if sure about #4, do the parmlib concatenations match an/or  are you
sure you know where  MSTJCLxx is being pulled from. 

6) Output from failed logon (if it purges, use a JES command to change
the msgclass  -  JOBCLASS(TSU)  - attributes to keep the output.

7) Syslog from IPL


Ok, now that I wrote that I re-read your post.  This is a one time thing only 
with a new user?   If so, what if the user is defined by the RACF admin
from system #2?  Does you see this failure if the new user logs onto
system #1 first?   

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Re: why does WLM Server status change from YES to NO

2013-05-23 Thread Martin Packer
One thing worth considering - and having read the relevant bits in the 
manual and not seeing it there - is the suggestion I've heard that 
sometimes the IMS Control Region would benefit from Both.

Horst, care to elaborate on that?

Cheers, Martin

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Date:   05/23/2013 07:46 PM
Subject:Re: why does WLM Server status change from YES to NO
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we have a single OLTP region, which is TOR and AOR together.
Would you suggest managing the region using goal of transaction or 
both ?

Walter, in that scenario you would probably stick to TRANSACTION if you're 
satisfied with the way that region is currently managed by the 
transactions running in it.
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Re: TSO Logon looking for UADS on wrong volume

2013-05-23 Thread Dana Mitchell
Thanks Mark for the tips.  I'm going back and re-double checking everything on 
your list.  but see below


2) CTPROC listing + logon clist listing


Thats puzzling me, where it's getting that from.  CTPROC is not specified as a 
logon proc,  it's not even a logon proc and has nothing remotely to do with TSO:
 
//CTPROC PROC   
//* 
//* DOC:THIS PROCEDURE IS THE IPCS CTRACE1 EXTERNAL WRITER PROCEDURE
//* USED BY TCP/IP   .  
//* 
//IEFPROC  EXEC  PGM=ITTTRCWR,REGION=0K,TIME=1440   
//* TIME=1440 TO PREVENT S322 ABENDS
//TRCOUT01 DD DSNAME=DMITCHE.TCPIP.PKTRACE, 
// DISP=SHR 
//  


6) Output from failed logon (if it purges, use a JES command to change
the msgclass  -  JOBCLASS(TSU)  - attributes to keep the output.

Yes, it does get purged, I will have to give this a try.

7) Syslog from IPL

Long gone: 
IEE254I  14.39.32 IPLINFO DISPLAY 047   
 SYSTEM IPLED AT 06.06.51 ON 08/14/2012 
 RELEASE z/OS 01.13.00LICENSE = z/OS

IPL is a luxury we don't get around here very often


Ok, now that I wrote that I re-read your post.  This is a one time thing only 
with a new user?   If so, what if the user is defined by the RACF admin
from system #2?  Does you see this failure if the new user logs onto
system #1 first?   


Yes it is a one time deal.  If the job to define the new user is ran on either 
system 1 or 2,  same thing happens.  Logon fails on 2 first, successful on 1.

Dana

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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.

I don't remember that in any JCL doc I've ever seen.
Where is this documented?
Or, am I misreading this post and it only applies to DB2's allocations?
-
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Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

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From: Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com
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Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 12:21:07 
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Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

That is a concept that DB2 uses.  It can start at 1 cylinder and increase the 
secondary by 1 on each extend.

If you changed the SPACE parameter to accept:

SPACE=(unit,(n,+m,...
Where unit = TRK/CYL/etc and n=Primary allocation and +m is the initial 
secondary amount and increment

That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.

Amount per allocation - 10  5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  
70  75
Total allocation10 15  25  40  60  85 115 150 190 235 285 340 400 465 
535 610

This might be attractive for an EA enabled data set where even a 
SPACE=(CYL,(10,+10)) gets you to about 75,030 cylinders in 123 extents.

Chris Blaicher
Principal Software Engineer, Software Development
Syncsort Incorporated
50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677
P: 201-930-8260  |  M: 512-627-3803
E: cblaic...@syncsort.com

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Of Tom Marchant
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:55 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:

The system should allocate/reallocate according to what is needed in
the actual/immediate need for the dataset without dumping the problem
to the user!  (Of course limited by appropriate resource constraints.)

For situations like that, I like to use an allocation like CYL,(1,100).
Allocate a small primary and a much larger secondary.  Maybe also allowing 
multiple volumes.

Perhaps another useful construct would be an allocation where each secondary 
extent was bigger than the previous.
SMS would have a hard time with such a data set though.

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Re: TSO Logon looking for UADS on wrong volume

2013-05-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
DO you SYNC UADS and RACF before the new user logs on?  Or do you only do the 
sync on one system and not the other?

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com
Sent: May 23, 2013 10:40 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: TSO Logon looking for UADS on wrong volume

We have 2 systems in a basic sysplex, sharing everything: RACFDB, JES2, Master 
catalog, Parmlibs etc.  The only differences between the sytems is that they 
are each on a different CEC,  and one system has a few licensed products that 
the other doesn't such as MQ, Syncsort,  Qwikref.

We define a new user to RACF,  and all options defined on TSO segment.  New 
user can logon to system 1 successfully.  Then logon to system 2 successfully. 
 Everybody is happy.  If the new user tries to log onto system 2 *first*  the 
logon fails with:

IEC143I 213-04,IFG0194D,MSTJCL00,CTPROC,SYSUADS,E39E,Z13RES,SYS1.UADS
IEF170I 3 MPETER3  IEC143I 213-04,IFG0194D,MSTJCL00,CTPROC,SYSUADS,E39   
IKJ601I TSO LOGON ATTEMPTING RETRY. ABEND 213, USER MPETER3 , PROC   
UNKNOWN  
IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT 692  
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=213  REASON CODE=0004 
 TIME=10.21.43  SEQ=59394  CPU=  ASID=0044   
 PSW AT TIME OF ERROR  075C1000   80D081B6  ILC 2  INTC 0D   
   NO ACTIVE MODULE FOUND
   NAME=UNKNOWN  
   DATA AT PSW  00D081B0 - 4100302C  0A0D010D  A7E50126  
   AR/GR 0: 008FE040/00D08474   1: /A4213000 
 2: /7CD0   3: /00D08448 
 4: /008F2410   5: /008F27A4 
 6: /008F274C   7: /008F27A4 
 8: /008F276C   9: /008F1EC0 
 A: /80D0A7C2   B: /00D0B36A 
 C: /80D0B55C   D: /7FFB4D20 
 E: /80D07A14   F: /0004 
 END OF SYMPTOM DUMP 

IF the user goes back and logs onto system #1,  it is successful.  THen back 
to system #2,  now it's successful too.

There are very few differences between these systems.  Everyone uses RACF for 
TSO logon, the only thing in uads is IBMUSER0.  SYS1.UADS is catalogged in the 
shared master catalog on a different volume,  Z13RES is the currently IPLed 
sysres volume.  MSTJCL00 contains:

//SYSUADS DD DSN=SYS1.UADS,DISP=SHR

I can't find anywhere uads is referenced by volser,  or ** or SYSR1 or 
anyting.  I cannot explain why initial logon works on one system and not the 
other.  Does anybody have ideas of what else to check?  I've about run out of 
things to look at.

thanks
Dana


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Re: TSO Logon looking for UADS on wrong volume

2013-05-23 Thread Dana Mitchell
We never sync anymore,  either system.   We use all userid log datasets.

On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:09:21 -0700, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com 
wrote:

DO you SYNC UADS and RACF before the new user logs on?  Or do you only do the 
sync on one system and not the other?

Lizette


As an aside.  Here's the message that the user sees:
ICH70001I MPETER3  LAST ACCESS AT 13:43:46 ON THURSDAY, MAY 23, 2013
IKJ56452I SYSTEM ERROR, LOGON ATTEMPTING RETRY  
IKJ56400A ENTER LOGON OR LOGOFF-

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Re: TSO Logon looking for UADS on wrong volume

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 23 May 2013 14:53:37 -0500, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks Mark for the tips.  I'm going back and re-double checking everything on 
your list.  but see below


2) CTPROC listing + logon clist listing


Thats puzzling me, where it's getting that from.  CTPROC is not specified as a 
logon proc,  it's not even a logon proc and has nothing remotely to do with 
TSO:
 
//CTPROC PROC   
//* 
//* DOC:THIS PROCEDURE IS THE IPCS CTRACE1 EXTERNAL WRITER PROCEDURE
//* USED BY TCP/IP   .  
//* 
//IEFPROC  EXEC  PGM=ITTTRCWR,REGION=0K,TIME=1440   
//* TIME=1440 TO PREVENT S322 ABENDS
//TRCOUT01 DD DSNAME=DMITCHE.TCPIP.PKTRACE, 
// DISP=SHR 
//  


Ok.. ignore that.   Not sure where this behavior is documented but it has
to do with either the first or last thing that ran as SUB=MSTR (honestly,
I've never paid much attention to this anomaly.  
 


Yes it is a one time deal.  If the job to define the new user is ran on either 
system 1 or 2,  same thing happens.  Logon fails on 2 first, successful on 1.


Set a slip also for the 213 abend with A=SVCD so you have a dump.   

Mark
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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread J R
I think it was a pie in the sky suggestion.  

=
=

 
 Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:07:25 +
 From: eamacn...@yahoo.ca
 Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
 extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
 would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.
 
 I don't remember that in any JCL doc I've ever seen.
 Where is this documented?
 Or, am I misreading this post and it only applies to DB2's allocations?
 -
 Ted MacNEIL
 eamacn...@yahoo.ca
 Twitter: @TedMacNEIL
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com
 Sender:   IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 12:21:07 
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets
 
 That is a concept that DB2 uses.  It can start at 1 cylinder and increase the 
 secondary by 1 on each extend.
 
 If you changed the SPACE parameter to accept:
 
 SPACE=(unit,(n,+m,...
 Where unit = TRK/CYL/etc and n=Primary allocation and +m is the initial 
 secondary amount and increment
 
 That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
 extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
 would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.
 
 Amount per allocation - 10  5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65 
  70  75
 Total allocation10 15  25  40  60  85 115 150 190 235 285 340 400 465 
 535 610
 
 This might be attractive for an EA enabled data set where even a 
 SPACE=(CYL,(10,+10)) gets you to about 75,030 cylinders in 123 extents.
 
 Chris Blaicher
 Principal Software Engineer, Software Development
 Syncsort Incorporated
 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677
 P: 201-930-8260  |  M: 512-627-3803
 E: cblaic...@syncsort.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:33 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets
 
 On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:55 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
 
 The system should allocate/reallocate according to what is needed in
 the actual/immediate need for the dataset without dumping the problem
 to the user!  (Of course limited by appropriate resource constraints.)
 
 For situations like that, I like to use an allocation like CYL,(1,100).
 Allocate a small primary and a much larger secondary.  Maybe also allowing 
 multiple volumes.
 
 Perhaps another useful construct would be an allocation where each secondary 
 extent was bigger than the previous.
 SMS would have a hard time with such a data set though.
 
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Re: zLinux - redhat 7.1 setup on IFL (eth0 error)

2013-05-23 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:
 On 5/23/2013 at 12:16 PM, de Wet, Albertus H dewe...@ghc.org wrote:
 Trying to setup a Redhat 7.1 image on an IFL.
 Get it to boot from the HMC's CDROM.

 Reply to enter the network device, as eth0 and also tried qeth

 For the address I enter:
 qeth,0x3F00

 When I reply to the eth0 / qeth (OSA Express card) I get these messages:
 *Each OSA-Express feature in QDIO mode must be associated with a port name.
 Please enter additional parameters for your QETH device
 (e.g. add_parms,o0x10,{lo_devno,hi_devno},portname:port_name)

 When I reply the the message with:
 add_parms,0x3F,00,03,portname:OSA03F00

 I get this message back:
 chandev_setup bad argument  qeth,0x3F00 on line no 1 interpreted as
 qeth,0x3F00.
 type man chandev for more info

 And obviously I cannot connect to the OSA express card, even after supplying
 the rest of the IP settings.

 Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?

 Mainly, you're trying to install a decade-old operating system that wasn't in 
 very good shape to start with.  Try downloading a current version of RHEL or 
 SLES and you're much more likely to be successful.

 The suggestion to subscribe to linux-390 by Miklos is a good idea also.  
 That's where most of the mainframe Linux people hang out.


 Mark Post

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Re: TSO Logon looking for UADS on wrong volume

2013-05-23 Thread Staller, Allan
CTPROC is most likey executed by the logon CLIST

Is ' DMITCHE.TCPIP.PKTRACE' defined correctly on LPAR2?

HTH,

snip
2) CTPROC listing + logon clist listing


Thats puzzling me, where it's getting that from.  CTPROC is not specified as a 
logon proc,  it's not even a logon proc and has nothing remotely to do with TSO:
 
//CTPROC PROC   
//* 
//* DOC:THIS PROCEDURE IS THE IPCS CTRACE1 EXTERNAL WRITER PROCEDURE
//* USED BY TCP/IP   .  
//* 
//IEFPROC  EXEC  PGM=ITTTRCWR,REGION=0K,TIME=1440   
//* TIME=1440 TO PREVENT S322 ABENDS
//TRCOUT01 DD DSNAME=DMITCHE.TCPIP.PKTRACE, 
// DISP=SHR 
//  
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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
OK, I had never heard of this either, so I bit...

1 //RRPBR14  JOB ,TECHSUPT-RRP,MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=A,REGION=8M
2 //STEP1  EXEC  PGM=IEFBR14
3 //D DD DSN=MVS.RRP.JUNK,DISP=(,CATLG),
  //  UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,(2,+1)),VOL=SER=WSC001,
  //  DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=80)
 STMT NO. MESSAGE
3 IEFC626I INCORRECT USE OF PLUS IN THE SPACE FIELD

I did find the error message interesting, as it kind of implies that there is a 
CORRECT way to use a plus sign in a SPACE parm, but a quick glance thru the 
(1.10 level) doc mentions no use of a plus sign.

Rex

-Original Message-
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Of J R
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

I think it was a pie in the sky suggestion.

=
=


 Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:07:25 +
 From: eamacn...@yahoo.ca
 Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

 That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
 extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
 would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.

 I don't remember that in any JCL doc I've ever seen.
 Where is this documented?
 Or, am I misreading this post and it only applies to DB2's allocations?
 -
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 eamacn...@yahoo.ca
 Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

 -Original Message-
 From: Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com
 Sender:   IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 12:21:07
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

 That is a concept that DB2 uses.  It can start at 1 cylinder and increase the 
 secondary by 1 on each extend.

 If you changed the SPACE parameter to accept:

 SPACE=(unit,(n,+m,...
 Where unit = TRK/CYL/etc and n=Primary allocation and +m is the initial 
 secondary amount and increment

 That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
 extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
 would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.

 Amount per allocation - 10  5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65 
  70  75
 Total allocation10 15  25  40  60  85 115 150 190 235 285 340 400 465 
 535 610

 This might be attractive for an EA enabled data set where even a 
 SPACE=(CYL,(10,+10)) gets you to about 75,030 cylinders in 123 extents.

 Chris Blaicher
 Principal Software Engineer, Software Development
 Syncsort Incorporated
 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677
 P: 201-930-8260  |  M: 512-627-3803
 E: cblaic...@syncsort.com

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
 Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:33 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

 On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:55 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:

 The system should allocate/reallocate according to what is needed in
 the actual/immediate need for the dataset without dumping the problem
 to the user!  (Of course limited by appropriate resource constraints.)

 For situations like that, I like to use an allocation like CYL,(1,100).
 Allocate a small primary and a much larger secondary.  Maybe also allowing 
 multiple volumes.

 Perhaps another useful construct would be an allocation where each secondary 
 extent was bigger than the previous.
 SMS would have a hard time with such a data set though.

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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Pommier, Rex R.
rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com wrote:
 OK, I had never heard of this either, so I bit...

 1 //RRPBR14  JOB ,TECHSUPT-RRP,MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=A,REGION=8M
 2 //STEP1  EXEC  PGM=IEFBR14
 3 //D DD DSN=MVS.RRP.JUNK,DISP=(,CATLG),
   //  UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,(2,+1)),VOL=SER=WSC001,
   //  DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=80)
  STMT NO. MESSAGE
 3 IEFC626I INCORRECT USE OF PLUS IN THE SPACE FIELD

 I did find the error message interesting, as it kind of implies that there is 
 a CORRECT way to use a plus sign in a SPACE parm, but a quick glance thru the 
 (1.10 level) doc mentions no use of a plus sign.

 Rex

SPACE=(CYL,(2,1+1))
Primary extent is 2,  First secondary extent is 1,  Additional
secondary extents increase by 1?

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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:55 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
deleted
 For situations like that, I like to use an allocation like CYL,(1,100).
 Allocate a small primary and a much larger secondary.  Maybe
 also allowing multiple volumes.
deleted
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Take the maximum allocation amount on a volume (64K tracks, 4GB, etc).
 Divide by 15, put the remainder in the Primary.  Allow multiple
volumes.

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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
Yes, pie in the sky suggestion.  Notice it said, If you changed the SPACE 
parameter to accept.

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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of J R
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

I think it was a pie in the sky suggestion.  

=
=

 
 Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 20:07:25 +
 From: eamacn...@yahoo.ca
 Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK 
 datasets
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
 extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
 would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.
 
 I don't remember that in any JCL doc I've ever seen.
 Where is this documented?
 Or, am I misreading this post and it only applies to DB2's allocations?
 -
 Ted MacNEIL
 eamacn...@yahoo.ca
 Twitter: @TedMacNEIL
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com
 Sender:   IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 12:21:07 
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK 
 datasets
 
 That is a concept that DB2 uses.  It can start at 1 cylinder and increase the 
 secondary by 1 on each extend.
 
 If you changed the SPACE parameter to accept:
 
 SPACE=(unit,(n,+m,...
 Where unit = TRK/CYL/etc and n=Primary allocation and +m is the 
 initial secondary amount and increment
 
 That way if you specified  SPACE=(CYL,(10,+5)) and got the primary and 10 
 extents, the file size would be 285 cylinders and a primary with 15 extents 
 would be 610 cylinders as opposed to 60 and 75 cylinders respectively.
 
 Amount per allocation - 10  5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65 
  70  75
 Total allocation10 15  25  40  60  85 115 150 190 235 285 340 400 465 
 535 610
 
 This might be attractive for an EA enabled data set where even a 
 SPACE=(CYL,(10,+10)) gets you to about 75,030 cylinders in 123 extents.
 
 Chris Blaicher
 Principal Software Engineer, Software Development Syncsort 
 Incorporated
 50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677
 P: 201-930-8260  |  M: 512-627-3803
 E: cblaic...@syncsort.com
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Tom Marchant
 Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:33 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK 
 datasets
 
 On Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:55 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote:
 
 The system should allocate/reallocate according to what is needed in 
 the actual/immediate need for the dataset without dumping the problem 
 to the user!  (Of course limited by appropriate resource constraints.)
 
 For situations like that, I like to use an allocation like CYL,(1,100).
 Allocate a small primary and a much larger secondary.  Maybe also allowing 
 multiple volumes.
 
 Perhaps another useful construct would be an allocation where each secondary 
 extent was bigger than the previous.
 SMS would have a hard time with such a data set though.
 
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Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

2013-05-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Nope.  Nothing in the JCL reference manual mentions anything like this either.


1 //RRPBR14  JOB ,TECHSUPT-RRP,MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=A,REGION=8M
2 //STEP1  EXEC  PGM=IEFBR14
3 //D DD DSN=MVS.RRP.JUNK,DISP=(,CATLG),
  //  UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,(2,1+1)),VOL=SER=WSC001,
  //  DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=80)
 STMT NO. MESSAGE
3 IEFC626I INCORRECT USE OF PLUS IN THE SPACE FIELD



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Of Mike Schwab
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:49 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPn.SPFTEMPn.WORK datasets

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Pommier, Rex R.
rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com wrote:
 OK, I had never heard of this either, so I bit...

 1 //RRPBR14  JOB ,TECHSUPT-RRP,MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=A,REGION=8M
 2 //STEP1  EXEC  PGM=IEFBR14
 3 //D DD DSN=MVS.RRP.JUNK,DISP=(,CATLG),
   //  UNIT=3390,SPACE=(CYL,(2,+1)),VOL=SER=WSC001,
   //  DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=80)
  STMT NO. MESSAGE
 3 IEFC626I INCORRECT USE OF PLUS IN THE SPACE FIELD

 I did find the error message interesting, as it kind of implies that there is 
 a CORRECT way to use a plus sign in a SPACE parm, but a quick glance thru the 
 (1.10 level) doc mentions no use of a plus sign.

 Rex

SPACE=(CYL,(2,1+1))
Primary extent is 2,  First secondary extent is 1,  Additional
secondary extents increase by 1?

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Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups

2013-05-23 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 5/23/2013 10:46 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
IBM has a stripped down version of TSM that executes on zOS that does 
the actual tape I/O. TSM on another platform connects to the TSM 
running on zOS.


Order number?

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Re: z/OS Unix System Services Backups

2013-05-23 Thread Mark Jacobs
[5698-Z01]  TSM for z/OS or
[5698-Z02]  TSM EE for z/OS 

Mark Jacobs

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Ed 
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On 5/23/2013 10:46 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote:
 IBM has a stripped down version of TSM that executes on zOS that does
 the actual tape I/O. TSM on another platform connects to the TSM
 running on zOS.

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Re: SocGen private bank completes two-year project to migrate core banking system to the cloud

2013-05-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
At least they had the nous to use a private cloud.

Shane ...

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Re: CICS Transaction 'QKVA' is not recognized

2013-05-23 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Install GROUP1 (CEDA INSTALL GROUP(GROUP1).

Check that the transaction is now available. No need to bounce CICS.



On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 2:54 AM, Miklos Szigetvari
miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote:
 Hi

 Have you installed the GROUP1 ?
 CEDA INST G(GROUP1)
 If you had you can see with CEMT INQ TRANS(QKVA)
 If you don't see check the MSGLOG for any errors



 On 23.05.2013 18:37, Graham Hobbs wrote:

 Hello,

 My question is about finding a solution to:
  DFHAC2001 05/22/2013 21:09:19 CICSTS42 Transaction 'QKVA' is not
 recognized.
   Check that the transaction name is correct.

 Long technical post, very sorry, not a sysprog, at Dallas VIC, z/OS,
 CICSTS42 and struggling to make my first CICS transaction at Dallas work.
 Have pored over docs but clearly missed something. In my old app programmer
 days I'd call the CICS guy (now me (yuk)). The DFHAC2001 only told me am
 missing something and being fearful of having to do something radical to
 some DFH420 file:-(( so 'nth' degree steps would be priceless .. might
 someone give me clues?

 .. details: all programs, maps, transid's and KSDS files are loaded via a
 batch DFHCSDUP (part of an automated process thus RDO is not on) e.g ..

 //DFHCSDUP EXEC PGM=DFHCSDUP,REGION=1M,
 // PARM='CSD(READWRITE),PAGESIZE(60),NOCOMPAT'
 //STEPLIB  DD DSN=DFH420.CICS.SDFHLOAD,DISP=SHR
 //DFHCSD   DD DSN=DFH420.DFHCSD,DISP=SHR
 //OUTDDDD SYSOUT=*
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
 //SYSINDD *
 DELETE PROGRAM(QKVSP01) GROUP(GROUP1)
 DEFINE PROGRAM(QKVSP01) GROUP(GROUP1)
 TRANSID(QKVA)
 LANGUAGE(COBOL)
 DESCRIPTION(Main_menu_pgm)
 DELETE TRANSACTION(QKVA) GROUP(GROUP1)
 DEFINE TRANSACTION(QKVA) GROUP(GROUP1)
  PROGRAM(QKVSP01)
  DESCRIPTION(Main_menu_pgm)
 //

 .. which worked ok but since QKVA didn't work, reading told me I needed ..

 CEDA ADD GROUP(GROUP1) LIST(INITLIST)

 .. which seemed to work; knowing XYZLIST exists at Dallas, to learn what
 to expect, did ..

 D LIST(XYZLIST)

NAME TYPE LIST LAST CHANGE
DFHDCTG  GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
DFHBMS   GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
DFHCONS  GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
DFHDBCTL GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
DFHDB2   GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
DFHEDF   GROUPXYZLIST 10/25/11 20:41:24
etc

 .. and found the above; did the same for my INITLIST and got ..

 D LIST(INITLIST)

NAME TYPE LIST LAST CHANGE
GROUP1   GROUPINITLIST 05/22/13 19:24:21

 .. which looks OK to me BUT didn't show any GROUP1 entries so I did ..

 D GROUP(GROUP1)
   ENTER COMMANDS
NAME TYPE GROUPLAST CHANGE
QKVSKEYA FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
QKVSKEYB FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
QKVSKEYC FILE GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
QKVSHE1  MAPSET   GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
QKVSHE2  MAPSET   GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
etc
QKVSP01  PROGRAM  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
QKVSP02  PROGRAM  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:21
etc
QKVA TRANSACTION  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
QKVB TRANSACTION  GROUP1 05/22/13 19:38:22
etc

 .. which also looks good ..

 Novice thinking is asking why D LIST(INITLIST) doesn't show my GROUP1
 things? I have shut down CICS, reloaded via the DFHCSDUP, done
 START=INITIAL, various combos thereof .. nothing!

 Please, thanks
 Graham Hobbs


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Re: HSM option

2013-05-23 Thread Jake anderson
Hello,

1) HSM request for scratch tape, when performing a full volume dump of the
volumes
associated with some dump class. We have setup like below

 ADDVOL MIGL00
UNIT(3390)
MIGRATION
(MIGRATIONLEVEL1
 AUTODUMP(MIGDMP)
 NOSMALLDATASETPACKING)
THRESHOLD(85)
 ADDVOL MIGL01
UNIT(3390)
MIGRATION
(MIGRATIONLEVEL1
 AUTODUMP(MIGDMP)
 NOSMALLDATASETPACKING)
THRESHOLD(85)


As per above code, we have two migration volumes (MIGL00 and MIGL01)
defined under MIGDMP dump class.


2) There are only two DASD volume associated with this dump class.

3) In my previous email, I have wrongly put the dump time 0500 to 0600. It
is actually dumping MIGL00 and MIGL01 volume on every Wednesday between
0300 to 0400.


In our case, when every Wednesday dump starts at 0300, it ask for scratch
tape volume, but I actually want  dump of MIGL00 and MIGL01 volumes going
into the used tape rather then scratch tape.

I want to do this because, we are planning to migrate from ATL3494 to
TS3400 tape library, which has very minimum number of I/O slots where we
can keep data cartridge as compare to ATL 3494.

if HSM ask for scratch tape volume everytime , then I will shortly run of
the tapes and dump will fail. So, I want HSM to use the tape volume which
has valid data and fill it to maximum before it
ask for new scratch tape.


Hope this is more clear now.

Jake


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:36 PM, retired mainframer 
retired-mainfra...@q.com wrote:

 Your inconsistent use of terminology makes it difficult to fully understand
 the problem.

  Is the new scratch tape requested when performing the backup of
 datasets that happen to be on a volume associated with some dump class?  Or
 does the situation occur when performing a full volume dump of the volumes
 associated with some dump class?

  A dump volume is a tape volume.  Since you retain each dump volume for
 16 days and perform your dumps every 7 days, you must have more than two.
 Did you mean there are only two DASD volumes associated with the dump
 class?

  Why do you think the dumps are performed between 0500 and 0600 when
 your AUTODUMPSTART operand specifies 0300 to 0400?

 Reading between the lines, I will take a stab and assume you are addressing
 the issue of stacking (DASD) volume dumps on a single tape volume.  I think
 you are misinterpreting the purpose of the STACK(10) operand.  It allows
 you
 to place the dumps of up to ten DIFFERENT DASD volumes on a single tape
 during a single dump operation.  It does NOT allow you to place ten
 different dumps of the SAME volume on a tape.

 If you look at the description of the STACK operand in the HSM Storage
 Administration manual (Chapter 36 in my 1.11 copy), you will find:

 DFSMShsm selects empty dump volumes as targets for auto or command dump.

 and

 A given dump volume:
  ...
  Never contains more than one dump copy of the same source volume.
  ...



 :: -Original Message-
 :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 :: Behalf Of Jake anderson
 :: Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:47 AM
 :: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 :: Subject: HSM option
 ::
 :: Hello All,
 ::
 ::  In HSM, when we are taking backup of dump class volume, it
 :: always
 :: using scratch tape. But we want to change this configuration, so that I
 :: should use existing tape which has data rather then new scratch tape.
 ::
 ::
 :: We are doing this because we are planning to migrate our 3494 ATL to
 :: TS3400
 :: tape library . TS3400 Tape library has only 17 data cartridge slot in
 :: compare to ATL 3494 has many.  So that whenever HSM takes backup in
 tape
 :: it
 :: should use only exsiting data cartridge until it becomes full. Once it
 :: becomes full then it should look for new scratch tape.
 ::
 ::
 :: For doing this configuration, I have made below changes in HSM parmlib
 :: member. IN parmlib definition as below for taking dump. Every Wednesday
 :: it
 :: takes dump between 5 to 6 AM.We have two dump volume in our systems,
 ::
 ::
 :: DEFINE -
 ::   DUMPCYCLE(NNNYNNN /* 7-DAY DUMP CYCLE WITH DUMP*/ -
 ::CYCLESTARTDATE(1992/05/17)) /* DONE ONLY WEDNESDAY*/
 :: /*   */
 ::
 ::  DEFINE DUMPCLASS(MIGDMP /* FOR CLASS MIGDMP  */ -
 ::   UNIT(ATL90) /* USE ATL90 DEVICES*/ -
 ::   RETPD(16)  /* KEEP DUMP COPIES FOR 16 DAYS  */ -
 ::   AUTOREUSE  /* MAKE VOLUMES AVAIL FOR REUSE  */ -
 ::   NORESET/* DO NOT RESET CHANGE BIT   */ -
 ::   STACK(10)  /* 10 DUMP COPIES PER TAPE   */ -
 ::   NODSRESTORE /* NO SINGLE DATASET RESTORES   */ -
 ::   FREQUENCY(5) /* MIN DAYS FROM LAST VOL DUMP */ -
 ::   VTOCCOPIES(1)) /* KEEP 1 VTOC COPY DATASET  */
 ::