Re: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed on Tax Day Due to New Hardware (nextgov.com)

[Gerhard Adam]

Well, it's rather obvious that the people that wrote this article are about as 
ignorant as they come.



Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 19, 2018, at 3:47 PM, Nash, Jonathan S. 
> <01abdcef2f3c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed on Tax Day
> Due to New Hardware
> 
> By Aaron Boyd and Frank Konkel
> April 19, 2018 06:02 PM
> 
> https://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2018/04/irs-60-year-old-it-system-failed-tax-day-due-new-hardware/147598/
> 
> Congress and watchdogs have been warning the IRS to upgrade
> its systems for years.
> 
> The Internal Revenue Service attributed the agency’s Tax Day
> crash to a piece of hardware supporting an IT system that is
> almost 60 years old.
> 
> Called the Individual Master File, components of the system -
> including 20 million lines of computer code—date back to 1960,
> when John F. Kennedy was president.
> 
> IRS told Nextgov 18-month-old hardware supporting the
> Individual Master File experienced a caching issue causing
> the system to fail. The failure disrupted almost all other
> services and systems IRS provides because those systems
> ingest data from the Individual Master File. When those
> systems—such as Direct Pay and the structured payments
> portal—called to the Individual Master File mainframe and
> got no response, they too failed.
> 
> Despite repeated warnings from the Government Accountability
> Office and Congress, IRS plans to modernize the system are
> at least six years behind schedule and several hundred
> million dollars over budget.
> 
> This was our biggest fear about one of these
> mission-critical systems crashing, Dave Powner, GAO's
> director of IT management issues, told Nextgov Thursday.
> Fortunately, it wasn't down for a long period of time, so
> in that way, we dodged a bullet.
> 
> Still, the crash forced the IRS to extend the tax filing
> deadline one day, delaying some 14 million submissions. It
> could be several years before the Individual Master File is
> fully modernized and rid of 1960s-era technology.
> 
> To address the risk of a system failure, the IRS has a plan
> to modernize two core components of the IMF by 2021,
> followed by a year of parallel validation before retiring
> those components in 2022,” the IRS told Nextgov in March,
> before the crash occurred. That timeline could slip because
> the IRS says it needs to hire at least 50 additional
> employees—while backfilling any attrition—plus an additional
> $85 million per year in annual non-labor funding over the
> next five years. The president’s fiscal 2018 budget request
> called for a $239 million reduction in funding for the IRS,
> which has faced numerous cuts in recent years.
> 
> Since Republicans gained control of the House of
> Representatives in 2010, their partisan attacks have left
> the IRS with nearly 10,000 fewer customer service
> representatives to assist taxpayers and a patchwork of IT
> systems, some dating back to the Kennedy Administration,
> which is ultimately harming all taxpayers,” Rep. Gerry
> Connolly, D-Va., told Nextgov.
> 
> However, the Republican-led House ratified a package of nine
> IRS reform bills following the Tax Day crash that could amp
> up IRS’ modernization efforts. The bills, including the
> 21st-Century IRS Act and the Taxpayer First Act, will stress
> improving the customer experience for taxpayers as well as
> modernizing technology across the agency. The reform package
> was ushered in by the House Ways and Means committee,
> chaired by Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas.
> 
> A new tax code calls for a new tax administrator, and we
> have worked together so that the IRS can be transformed into
> an agency with a singular mission: taxpayer first, Brady
> said in a statement.
> 
> One of the bills will require IRS to compile a plan to
> enhance agency technology and customer service. That plan is
> due to Congress by September.
> 
> The Individual Master File contains data from 1 billion
> taxpayer accounts dating back several decades and is the
> chief IRS application responsible for receiving 100 million
> Americans’ individual taxpayer data and dispensing refunds.
> IRS first attempted to replace the system with a modernized
> Customer Account Data Engine, but that effort was canceled
> in 2009. A delivery date for CADE 2, the IRS’ subsequent
> modernization effort, has slipped several years even as
> contractors working on the project have earned as much as
> $290 million.
> 
> We still have not seen a solid plan in place, Powner told
> Nextgov. GAO identified the Individual Master File as the
> oldest technology system still operational in government in
> 2016.
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Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

[Mike Hochee]

Google and Twitter workloads quite likely do not have the same integrity 
expectations/requirements as workloads running on z systems.  This may be part 
of the explanation.  In addition, my observations are limited to IBM Z systems 
which are 'mainframe' systems, and the subject of this discussion list.  The 
benchmark cited appeared to be running on a high-end Dell system. 

Another possibility might be the true object-oriented nature of the language 
that may not mesh well with a non-OO workload.  For example, I have seen 
several implementations which had to incorporate an OO-relational layer to 
bridge the differences between OO processing and relationally conforming data. 
There was substantial overhead associated with the care maintenance of that 
data layer.   

Based on my experience and personal observations, I would not recommend 
replacing a high volume performance critical system written in an extremely low 
overhead 2nd generation language with system largely written in JAVA, certainly 
not without doing a serious pilot project first.  I would feel far more 
comfortable recommending C/C++ as a replacement.  

This is appears to be an older IBM document 
(https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg27013550=7  I could not 
find a date), but it contains the following statement...   " Will a TPF Java 
program be as efficient as an assembler program or even C? Of course not, but 
consider..." 

Hope the above helps explain my perspective. 

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Subject: Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

On 20/04/2018 4:54 AM, Mike Hochee wrote:
> I have yet to see JAVA successfully handle the data and transaction volumes 
> processed by the largest credit card processors, banks,  insurance companies, 
> or the stock market.


Some of the biggest companies in the world use the JVM in their stack. 
Google, Amazon, eBay, Uber not to mention Twitter, all at enormous scale. There 
are several high frequency trading applications written in Java some claiming 
to do 6M tps on a single thread [1].

[1] https://martinfowler.com/articles/lmax.html

> I witnessed an attempt at processing appx. 15% of IRS volume using JAVA as a 
> core technology.  I don't know the final outcome, but when I left they were 
> about 400% beyond proposed SLA performance targets.  C/C++ seems like a good 
> (maybe only) bet if they want to keep the workload on zTPF.

That's interesting! Is there a fundamental flaw in the JVM implementation on 
zTPF or was it down to poor design?

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> On Behalf Of Eric Chevalier
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 4:07 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers
>
> On 4/18/18 1:50 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:
>
>> IBM ALCS became zTFP.  That is generally all in Assembler, unless you 
>> use JAVA.  But JAVA is way too slow
> TPF has had C/C++ since 1997.
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Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

[David Crayford]

On 20/04/2018 4:54 AM, Mike Hochee wrote:

I have yet to see JAVA successfully handle the data and transaction volumes 
processed by the largest credit card processors, banks,  insurance companies, 
or the stock market.



Some of the biggest companies in the world use the JVM in their stack. 
Google, Amazon, eBay, Uber not to mention Twitter, all at enormous 
scale. There are several high frequency trading applications written in 
Java some claiming

to do 6M tps on a single thread [1].

[1] https://martinfowler.com/articles/lmax.html


I witnessed an attempt at processing appx. 15% of IRS volume using JAVA as a 
core technology.  I don't know the final outcome, but when I left they were 
about 400% beyond proposed SLA performance targets.  C/C++ seems like a good 
(maybe only) bet if they want to keep the workload on zTPF.


That's interesting! Is there a fundamental flaw in the JVM 
implementation on zTPF or was it down to poor design?



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Subject: Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

On 4/18/18 1:50 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:


IBM ALCS became zTFP.  That is generally all in Assembler, unless you
use JAVA.  But JAVA is way too slow

TPF has had C/C++ since 1997.

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Re: IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed on Tax Day Due to New Hardware (nextgov.com)

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 22:47:33 +, Nash, Jonathan S. wrote:

>IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed on Tax Day
>Due to New Hardware
>
>By Aaron Boyd and Frank Konkel
>April 19, 2018 06:02 PM
>
>https://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2018/04/irs-60-year-old-it-system-failed-tax-day-due-new-hardware/147598/
>
>Congress and watchdogs have been warning the IRS to upgrade
>its systems for years.
>
>The Ieternal Revenue Service attributed the agency’s Tax Day
>crash to a piece of hardware supporting an IT system that is
>almost 60 years old.
>
>Called the Individual Master File, components of the system -
>including 20 million lines of computer code—date back to 1960,
>when John F. Kennedy was president.  ...
>
“There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is
to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and
the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult.” 
― C.A.R. Hoare

Of course, it's much the fault of the Tax Code.

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IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed on Tax Day Due to New Hardware (nextgov.com)

[Nash, Jonathan S.]

IRS - 60-Year-Old IT System Failed on Tax Day
Due to New Hardware

By Aaron Boyd and Frank Konkel
April 19, 2018 06:02 PM

https://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2018/04/irs-60-year-old-it-system-failed-tax-day-due-new-hardware/147598/

Congress and watchdogs have been warning the IRS to upgrade
its systems for years.

The Internal Revenue Service attributed the agency’s Tax Day
crash to a piece of hardware supporting an IT system that is
almost 60 years old.

Called the Individual Master File, components of the system -
including 20 million lines of computer code—date back to 1960,
when John F. Kennedy was president.

IRS told Nextgov 18-month-old hardware supporting the
Individual Master File experienced a caching issue causing
the system to fail. The failure disrupted almost all other
services and systems IRS provides because those systems
ingest data from the Individual Master File. When those
systems—such as Direct Pay and the structured payments
portal—called to the Individual Master File mainframe and
got no response, they too failed.

Despite repeated warnings from the Government Accountability
Office and Congress, IRS plans to modernize the system are
at least six years behind schedule and several hundred
million dollars over budget.

This was our biggest fear about one of these
mission-critical systems crashing, Dave Powner, GAO's
director of IT management issues, told Nextgov Thursday.
Fortunately, it wasn't down for a long period of time, so
in that way, we dodged a bullet.

Still, the crash forced the IRS to extend the tax filing
deadline one day, delaying some 14 million submissions. It
could be several years before the Individual Master File is
fully modernized and rid of 1960s-era technology.

To address the risk of a system failure, the IRS has a plan
to modernize two core components of the IMF by 2021,
followed by a year of parallel validation before retiring
those components in 2022,” the IRS told Nextgov in March,
before the crash occurred. That timeline could slip because
the IRS says it needs to hire at least 50 additional
employees—while backfilling any attrition—plus an additional
$85 million per year in annual non-labor funding over the
next five years. The president’s fiscal 2018 budget request
called for a $239 million reduction in funding for the IRS,
which has faced numerous cuts in recent years.

Since Republicans gained control of the House of
Representatives in 2010, their partisan attacks have left
the IRS with nearly 10,000 fewer customer service
representatives to assist taxpayers and a patchwork of IT
systems, some dating back to the Kennedy Administration,
which is ultimately harming all taxpayers,” Rep. Gerry
Connolly, D-Va., told Nextgov.

However, the Republican-led House ratified a package of nine
IRS reform bills following the Tax Day crash that could amp
up IRS’ modernization efforts. The bills, including the
21st-Century IRS Act and the Taxpayer First Act, will stress
improving the customer experience for taxpayers as well as
modernizing technology across the agency. The reform package
was ushered in by the House Ways and Means committee,
chaired by Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas.

A new tax code calls for a new tax administrator, and we
have worked together so that the IRS can be transformed into
an agency with a singular mission: taxpayer first, Brady
said in a statement.

One of the bills will require IRS to compile a plan to
enhance agency technology and customer service. That plan is
due to Congress by September.

The Individual Master File contains data from 1 billion
taxpayer accounts dating back several decades and is the
chief IRS application responsible for receiving 100 million
Americans’ individual taxpayer data and dispensing refunds.
IRS first attempted to replace the system with a modernized
Customer Account Data Engine, but that effort was canceled
in 2009. A delivery date for CADE 2, the IRS’ subsequent
modernization effort, has slipped several years even as
contractors working on the project have earned as much as
$290 million.

We still have not seen a solid plan in place, Powner told
Nextgov. GAO identified the Individual Master File as the
oldest technology system still operational in government in
2016.

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Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

[Pete Lancashire]

I smell an open pit sewer goes by the name Oracle

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 1:54 PM Mike Hochee  wrote:

> I have yet to see JAVA successfully handle the data and transaction
> volumes processed by the largest credit card processors, banks,  insurance
> companies, or the stock market.  I witnessed an attempt at processing appx.
> 15% of IRS volume using JAVA as a core technology.  I don't know the final
> outcome, but when I left they were about 400% beyond proposed SLA
> performance targets.  C/C++ seems like a good (maybe only) bet if they want
> to keep the workload on zTPF.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Eric Chevalier
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 4:07 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers
>
> On 4/18/18 1:50 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:
>
> > IBM ALCS became zTFP.  That is generally all in Assembler, unless you
> > use JAVA.  But JAVA is way too slow
>
> TPF has had C/C++ since 1997.
>
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Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

[Mike Hochee]

I have yet to see JAVA successfully handle the data and transaction volumes 
processed by the largest credit card processors, banks,  insurance companies, 
or the stock market.  I witnessed an attempt at processing appx. 15% of IRS 
volume using JAVA as a core technology.  I don't know the final outcome, but 
when I left they were about 400% beyond proposed SLA performance targets.  
C/C++ seems like a good (maybe only) bet if they want to keep the workload on 
zTPF. 

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Subject: Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

On 4/18/18 1:50 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:

> IBM ALCS became zTFP.  That is generally all in Assembler, unless you 
> use JAVA.  But JAVA is way too slow

TPF has had C/C++ since 1997.

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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Salah Balboul]

MASDEF DORMANCY=(100,500), HOLD=60, LOCKOUT=1000,SYNCTOL=120. That what I have. 
Been like this for 11 month.

Not convinced this is a JES2 problem.

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Re: XCF Group HSFIXC ?

[Graham Harris]

Owner is SDSFAUX in our env.

On 19 April 2018 at 19:58, Martin Packer  wrote:

>
> Looking at the member and job name fields in SMF 74-2 might well give you a
> clue.
>
> It’s not one I’ve seen bubble up when I analyse 74-2 (which I do
> practically any engagement).
>
> Cheers, Martin
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On 20 Apr 2018, at 02:56, Patrick Falcone
> <012526080649-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > No idea what this is, any pointers appreciated. TIA...
> >
> >
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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Salah Balboul]

nothing in the syslog prior to this indicates any issues. All running fine.

Yes we have an automation tool.

Yes, I will place the CKPT1 on the CF. 

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Re: SMF record analyze

[Edward Finnell]

If you already have SAS. An alternative is to use MXG on your hefty PC
with SAS. Have shared DASD reduces transfer of large volumes of data.
 
There's also the RMF Spreadsheet Reporter for RMF data that will take RMF 
records and flow them into EXcel spreadsheet for pretty graphics.
 
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/rmf/tools/rmftools.html
 
In a message dated 4/19/2018 1:44:38 PM Central Standard Time, gib...@wsu.edu 
writes:

 
It's called MXG. MXG is very reasonably priced.

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Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

[Eric Chevalier]

On 4/18/18 1:50 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:


IBM ALCS became zTFP.  That is generally all in Assembler, unless you use
JAVA.  But JAVA is way too slow


TPF has had C/C++ since 1997.

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Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 17 Apr 2018 to 18 Apr 2018 (#2018-108)

[Carmen Vitullo]

not that I'm aware.. 



Carmen Vitullo 

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On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:52:30 -0400, Carmen Vitullo wrote: 

>At z/os 2.1 with some SDSF PTF's I think and at 2.2 the SDSFAUX address space 
>provides, parmlib,proclib,apf,linklist,dynamic exit,enq,address space 
>memory...any other good info 
> 
Is there an SDSVRAI? 

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Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 17 Apr 2018 to 18 Apr 2018 (#2018-108)

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:52:30 -0400, Carmen Vitullo wrote:

>At z/os 2.1 with some SDSF PTF's I think and at 2.2 the SDSFAUX address space 
>provides, parmlib,proclib,apf,linklist,dynamic exit,enq,address space 
>memory...any other good info
> 
Is there an SDSVRAI?

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Re: XCF Group HSFIXC ?

[Martin Packer]

Looking at the member and job name fields in SMF 74-2 might well give you a
clue.

It’s not one I’ve seen bubble up when I analyse 74-2 (which I do
practically any engagement).

Cheers, Martin

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Apr 2018, at 02:56, Patrick Falcone
<012526080649-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
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> No idea what this is, any pointers appreciated. TIA...
>
>
>
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Re: SMF record analyze

[Martin Packer]

RMF doesn’t know SMF 30. If you can use zBNA then it might be of some value
here - as zBNA certainly does know SMF 30.

But I WOULD start with RMF to get the bigger picture. Unless you already
have, of course. :-)

Cheers, Martin

Sent from my iPad

> On 20 Apr 2018, at 02:32, venkat kulkarni 
wrote:
>
> Thanks for reply.
>
> Yes, i extracted SMF 30 into flat file and i am aware of this  SMF 30
along
> with other record number.
>
> But issue is to analyze history of batch job along with CPU usage for
these
> jobs to know which one consumed more CPU during that time .
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Lizette Koehler

> wrote:
>
>> You can use IFASMFDP to extract any number of records out of SMF into a
>> new file.
>>
>> You should be aware that SMF30s might need other records to get the
whole
>> picture.
>>
>> Do you run Scheduling Software?  If so, may be it can assist with this
>>
>> Lizette
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
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>> Behalf Of
>>> venkat kulkarni
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: SMF record analyze
>>>
>>> Hello Group,
>>>
>>> we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU
>> usage
>>> reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to
>> analyze
>>> our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
>>>
>>> But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
>> possible
>>> that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our monthly
>>> smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs and
>> CPU
>>> used by these jobs.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please help.
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> Venkat
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XCF Group HSFIXC ?

[Patrick Falcone]

 No idea what this is, any pointers appreciated. TIA...

    
  

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Re: SMF record analyze

[Gibney, Dave]

It's called MXG. MXG is very reasonably priced. 

> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:30 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SMF record analyze
> 
> Thanks for reply.
> 
> Yes, i extracted SMF 30 into flat file and i am aware of this  SMF 30 along 
> with
> other record number.
> 
> But issue is to analyze history of batch job along with CPU usage for these
> jobs to know which one consumed more CPU during that time .
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Lizette Koehler
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > You can use IFASMFDP to extract any number of records out of SMF into
> > a new file.
> >
> > You should be aware that SMF30s might need other records to get the
> > whole picture.
> >
> > Do you run Scheduling Software?  If so, may be it can assist with this
> >
> > Lizette
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> > Behalf Of
> > > venkat kulkarni
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: SMF record analyze
> > >
> > > Hello Group,
> > >
> > > we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our
> > > MSU
> > usage
> > > reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to
> > analyze
> > > our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
> > >
> > > But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
> > possible
> > > that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our
> > > monthly smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of
> > > batch jobs and
> > CPU
> > > used by these jobs.
> > >
> > >
> > > Please help.
> > >
> > > Thanks & Regards
> > > Venkat
> > >
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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Mike Schwab]

MASDEF=100 (1 second).  MASDEF= will cause a long hang on a
shared JES2 checkpoint volume that is shared with another system.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Salah Balboul  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For the past week we've had 2 crashes due to one LPAR being hung in a two 
> SYSPLEX LPAR causing sympathy sickness.
>
> In both cases the indication is $HASP263 message (Checkpoint lock), followed 
> by *MASTER* pending on the JES2 CKPT volume.
>
> Finally IXC426D to partition the sick LPAR out.
>
> We do not have an SFM policy in effect, no changes done or maintenance 
> applied.
>
> The problem LPAR SYSLOG stops recording approx 10-12 prior to IXC426D 
> message. NO indication of any issues on problem LPAR.
>
> I wonder if anyone has seen this.
>
> I don't think JES2 is causing this, it is a victim.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks
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Re: SMF record analyze

[venkat kulkarni]

Thanks for reply.

Yes, i extracted SMF 30 into flat file and i am aware of this  SMF 30 along
with other record number.

But issue is to analyze history of batch job along with CPU usage for these
jobs to know which one consumed more CPU during that time .



On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Lizette Koehler 
wrote:

> You can use IFASMFDP to extract any number of records out of SMF into a
> new file.
>
> You should be aware that SMF30s might need other records to get the whole
> picture.
>
> Do you run Scheduling Software?  If so, may be it can assist with this
>
> Lizette
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf Of
> > venkat kulkarni
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: SMF record analyze
> >
> > Hello Group,
> >
> > we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU
> usage
> > reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to
> analyze
> > our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
> >
> > But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
> possible
> > that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our monthly
> > smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs and
> CPU
> > used by these jobs.
> >
> >
> > Please help.
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > Venkat
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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Carmen Vitullo]

hindsight I agree the D, GRS,C command maybe would have helped, but I suspect a 
*MASTER* start pending on a CKPT volume would indicate a process outside of the 
plex or maybe an operator command, or maybe a dynamic IOS change that wanted 
that volume reserved. 
Lizette has some good suggestions, I've had an issue like this when working for 
an outsourcer, we had 16 system in a plex from a 9 engine CP to a UNI processor 
in the same plex, and the sysplex designer had an SFM policy built that was not 
designed correctly and all systems were weighted the same, the UNI processor 
would not and could not manage the IXC messaging, also we were in a GRS ring 
configuration which made things worse. 
so this leads to another question, MIM or GRS? RING or STAR? 





Carmen Vitullo 

- Original Message -

From: "Salah Balboul"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 1:18:12 PM 
Subject: Re: SYSPLEX Hung 

Yes. Shared DASD within the SYSPLEX/ RMF ENQ report shows nothing that would 
indicate an ENQ on JES2 CKPT by some other ASID. 

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Re: SMF record analyze

[Lizette Koehler]

You can use IFASMFDP to extract any number of records out of SMF into a new 
file.

You should be aware that SMF30s might need other records to get the whole 
picture.

Do you run Scheduling Software?  If so, may be it can assist with this 

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
> venkat kulkarni
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:20 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: SMF record analyze
> 
> Hello Group,
> 
> we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU usage
> reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to analyze
> our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.
> 
> But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it possible
> that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our monthly
> smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs and CPU
> used by these jobs.
> 
> 
> Please help.
> 
> Thanks & Regards
> Venkat
> 
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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Mark Jacobs - Listserv]

Without the SAD it's all going to be speculation. Have you setup AUTOIPL in 
DIAGxx to automatically take the SAD if the system fails?

AUTOIPL SADMP(7B97,SYSC) MVS(*964C,79A222  )  as an example



Salah Balboul
April 19, 2018 at 2:18 PM
Yes. Shared DASD within the SYSPLEX/ RMF ENQ report shows nothing that would 
indicate an ENQ on JES2 CKPT by some other ASID.

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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Lizette Koehler]

What was in syslog in and around the HASP CKPT Lock message occurred?

Do you have an automation tool that could monitor for it and issue commands?

DS Q,,,

D GRS,DEV=...

And so forth?

It sounds like a process is locking the volume that the ckpt is on rather than 
the ckpt dataset.

Is it possible to place CKPT1 into a CF and leave CKPT2 on DASD?  Might reduce 
your issues.


Lizette


> -Original Message-
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> Salah Balboul
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:18 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SYSPLEX Hung
> 
> Yes. Shared DASD within the SYSPLEX/ RMF ENQ report shows nothing that would
> indicate an ENQ on JES2 CKPT by some other ASID.
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SMF record analyze

[venkat kulkarni]

Hello Group,

we are experiencing performance issue on every month 10th and our MSU usage
reach to maximum but we are unable to find reason. So, we wanted to analyze
our batch jobs, if any one of them causing this issue.

But we do not have any tool for performing this activity. So, is it
possible that we extract only record 30 into different dataset from our
monthly smfdump and then RMF can give us report with history of batch jobs
and CPU used by these jobs.


Please help.

Thanks & Regards
Venkat

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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Salah Balboul]

Yes. Shared DASD within the SYSPLEX/ RMF ENQ report shows nothing that would 
indicate an ENQ on JES2 CKPT by some other ASID.

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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Allan Staller]

The OP could also try D GRS,C on the surviving system.

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Of Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 1:03 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SYSPLEX Hung

not sure if this would help, since I suspect maybe JES2 was a victim, of a 
deadly embrace. since you didn't get a chance to take a SADMP the RMF ENQ 
report may help diagnose an ENQ, or RESERVE issue.
I'd like to also assume all shared DASD is within the same SYSPLEX?



Carmen Vitullo

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From: "Salah Balboul" 
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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:55:37 AM
Subject: Re: SYSPLEX Hung

In JES MAS, yes. CKPT on DASD. Nothing but ckpt on each DASD.

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Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

[Anne & Lynn Wheeler]

sipp...@sg.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes:
> Then PARS -> ACP -> ACP/TPF -> TPF -> TPF/ESA -> z/TPF (IBM supported
> today). PARS definitely made it onto System/360, probably from 1965 with
> the first machines. However, there were at least three PARS customers that
> started on IBM 70xx machines: American, Delta, and PanAm. (Were there any
> others?) All three switched over to System/360 and successor machines
> fairly quickly.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2018c.html#57 The IRS Really Needs Some New 
Computers

in the ACP/TPF timeframe, non-airlines, other res systems and financial
were starting to use ACP ... prompting the change in name ... from
airline control program to transaction processing facility.

this was also when 308x was introducted which was going to be
multiprocessor only. the problem was that acp/tpf didn't have
multiprocessor support ... and IBM was concerned that all the ACP/TPF
customers would move to clone vendors which were still offering faster,
newer single processor systems. Eventually 3083 was introduced,
basically 3081 with one of the processors removed (one of the problems
was that 2nd 3081 processor was in the middle of the box, just straight
removal would have left the box dangerously top-heavy).

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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Carmen Vitullo]

not sure if this would help, since I suspect maybe JES2 was a victim, of a 
deadly embrace. since you didn't get a chance to take a SADMP the RMF ENQ 
report may help diagnose an ENQ, or RESERVE issue. 
I'd like to also assume all shared DASD is within the same SYSPLEX? 



Carmen Vitullo 

- Original Message -

From: "Salah Balboul"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 11:55:37 AM 
Subject: Re: SYSPLEX Hung 

In JES MAS, yes. CKPT on DASD. Nothing but ckpt on each DASD. 

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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Salah Balboul]

OPS didn't.

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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

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In JES MAS, yes. CKPT on DASD. Nothing but ckpt on each DASD.

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Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

[Dana Mitchell]

We run ALCS here,  all applications are written in assembler,  but it does 
support LE:

(ALCS) interfaces with the IBM Language Environment® for MVS file medium 
supported by the MVS Data Facility Product to be written in the C, C++, PL/I, 
and COBOL languages. ALCS also provides relational database support. It 
interfaces to IBM Db2® for z/OS® to provide full support for Structured Query 
Language (SQL) – including dynamic SQL


Dana

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:29:46 -0300, Clark Morris  
wrote:
>
>Unless there is a high Quality Java interpreter for TPF that creates
>instances that are reused, I would not consider JAVA for that
>environment.  Also does Java handle efficiently all data types used by
>Assembler programs for that environment including bit switches and
>packed decimal?  I consider it a shame that COBOL is not available for
>that environment including upgrades to handle the 2002 standard USAGES
>including BIT, the various binary usages and floating point decimal.
>Does TPF support Ziip/Zaap processors?  Does PL1 support TPF?  Would
>metal C or a non-IBM C/C++ be suitable for TPF?
>
>Clark Morris   
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Re: IBM zSecure Audit reviews?

[ITschak Mugzach]

Beinf familier with both, they are not comparble. ;-) funny, but true.

Itschak

בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 באפר׳ 2018, 18:44, מאת Rob Schramm ‏:

> I am not sure that is true.  Seems to me the issue was that zsecure for TSS
> worked.. but that there were issues with it being official from the CA
> standpoint.
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 11:11 AM ITschak Mugzach  wrote:
>
> >  Afail.it doesbn't support tss. Only acf2 & racf. Aid for real mf
> experts.
> > Tells only if you are in compliance or not but don't have the stig best
> > practice text. It is also human intensive and you'll send days & cpu to
> > collect data (separate phase) and manually report on each lpar.
> > Regulation requires ibdependent assessment so it wan't help you (but may
> be
> > the expert you'll rent, so no intetest).
> >
> > Cybersecurity is dynamic. How a annual assessment helps you if during the
> > year and even during assessment a security control already reviewed has
> > been changed? Will u be vulenarable a whole year?
> >
> > Iscm is the only methode to keep an eye open on your maingframe security.
> >
> > ITschak
> >
> > בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 באפר׳ 2018, 18:01, מאת Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) ‏<
> > lionel.d...@va.gov>:
> >
> > > I've been asked to look into IBM's zSecure Audit for use with CA Top
> > > Secret and for DISA STIG compliance.
> > >
> > > Can anyone provide me with an unbiased review on the pros/cons of this
> > > product?
> > >
> > > Feel free to e-mail me directly.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
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Re: IBM zSecure Audit reviews?

[Carmen Vitullo]

Well, we've been using Zsecure for about 2 years, and are a TSS shop. 
if you want I can get a local contact that support and works with the STIG 
process 


Carmen Vitullo 

- Original Message -

From: "ITschak Mugzach"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:10:55 AM 
Subject: Re: IBM zSecure Audit reviews? 

Afail.it doesbn't support tss. Only acf2 & racf. Aid for real mf experts. 
Tells only if you are in compliance or not but don't have the stig best 
practice text. It is also human intensive and you'll send days & cpu to 
collect data (separate phase) and manually report on each lpar. 
Regulation requires ibdependent assessment so it wan't help you (but may be 
the expert you'll rent, so no intetest). 

Cybersecurity is dynamic. How a annual assessment helps you if during the 
year and even during assessment a security control already reviewed has 
been changed? Will u be vulenarable a whole year? 

Iscm is the only methode to keep an eye open on your maingframe security. 

ITschak 

בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 באפר׳ 2018, 18:01, מאת Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) ‏< 
lionel.d...@va.gov>: 

> I've been asked to look into IBM's zSecure Audit for use with CA Top 
> Secret and for DISA STIG compliance. 
> 
> Can anyone provide me with an unbiased review on the pros/cons of this 
> product? 
> 
> Feel free to e-mail me directly. 
> 
> Thank you 
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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Carmen Vitullo]

So, you are in a JES2 MAS? and CKPT's are on DASD, I'm hoping on a volume with 
nothing else on the volume, or is one CKPT on the CF? 
SFM policy's can save your loved LPARS, it's not a big deal defining one, just 
make sure you weight them correctly and update the policy to your needs. 



Carmen Vitullo 

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From: "Salah Balboul"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:48:11 AM 
Subject: SYSPLEX Hung 

Hi, 

For the past week we've had 2 crashes due to one LPAR being hung in a two 
SYSPLEX LPAR causing sympathy sickness. 

In both cases the indication is $HASP263 message (Checkpoint lock), followed by 
*MASTER* pending on the JES2 CKPT volume. 

Finally IXC426D to partition the sick LPAR out. 

We do not have an SFM policy in effect, no changes done or maintenance applied. 

The problem LPAR SYSLOG stops recording approx 10-12 prior to IXC426D message. 
NO indication of any issues on problem LPAR. 

I wonder if anyone has seen this. 

I don't think JES2 is causing this, it is a victim. 

Thoughts? 

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Re: IBM zSecure Audit reviews?

[Rob Schramm]

I am not sure that is true.  Seems to me the issue was that zsecure for TSS
worked.. but that there were issues with it being official from the CA
standpoint.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018, 11:11 AM ITschak Mugzach  wrote:

>  Afail.it doesbn't support tss. Only acf2 & racf. Aid for real mf experts.
> Tells only if you are in compliance or not but don't have the stig best
> practice text. It is also human intensive and you'll send days & cpu to
> collect data (separate phase) and manually report on each lpar.
> Regulation requires ibdependent assessment so it wan't help you (but may be
> the expert you'll rent, so no intetest).
>
> Cybersecurity is dynamic. How a annual assessment helps you if during the
> year and even during assessment a security control already reviewed has
> been changed? Will u be vulenarable a whole year?
>
> Iscm is the only methode to keep an eye open on your maingframe security.
>
> ITschak
>
> בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 באפר׳ 2018, 18:01, מאת Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) ‏<
> lionel.d...@va.gov>:
>
> > I've been asked to look into IBM's zSecure Audit for use with CA Top
> > Secret and for DISA STIG compliance.
> >
> > Can anyone provide me with an unbiased review on the pros/cons of this
> > product?
> >
> > Feel free to e-mail me directly.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM zSecure Audit reviews?

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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 10:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBM zSecure Audit reviews?

 Afail.it doesbn't support tss. Only acf2 & racf. Aid for real mf experts.
Tells only if you are in compliance or not but don't have the stig best 
practice text. It is also human intensive and you'll send days & cpu to collect 
data (separate phase) and manually report on each lpar.
Regulation requires ibdependent assessment so it wan't help you (but may be the 
expert you'll rent, so no intetest).

Cybersecurity is dynamic. How a annual assessment helps you if during the year 
and even during assessment a security control already reviewed has been 
changed? Will u be vulenarable a whole year?

Iscm is the only methode to keep an eye open on your maingframe security.

ITschak

בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 באפר׳ 2018, 18:01, מאת Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) ‏<
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> I've been asked to look into IBM's zSecure Audit for use with CA Top 
> Secret and for DISA STIG compliance.
>
> Can anyone provide me with an unbiased review on the pros/cons of this 
> product?
>
> Feel free to e-mail me directly.
>
> Thank you
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Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

[Clark Morris]

[Default] On 18 Apr 2018 14:18:28 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
che...@watsonwalker.com (Cheryl Watson) wrote:

>There are two very big reasons to replace assembler with Java. The first is 
>the higher availability of Java programmers versus assembler programmers. The 
>second is that Java, for the most part, will run on zIIPs and reduce the cost 
>of software. The z13 and z14 can run Java faster than any other processor.  

Unless there is a high Quality Java interpreter for TPF that creates
instances that are reused, I would not consider JAVA for that
environment.  Also does Java handle efficiently all data types used by
Assembler programs for that environment including bit switches and
packed decimal?  I consider it a shame that COBOL is not available for
that environment including upgrades to handle the 2002 standard USAGES
including BIT, the various binary usages and floating point decimal.
Does TPF support Ziip/Zaap processors?  Does PL1 support TPF?  Would
metal C or a non-IBM C/C++ be suitable for TPF?

Clark Morris
>
>Cheryl
>Watsonwalker.com
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Apr 18, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Mike LaMartina  
>wrote:
>
>I am surprised that IRS wants to replace Assembler with Java.
>
>I can't think of a bigger mistake.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
>Behalf Of Joseph Reichman
>Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 10:09 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Fwd: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Reichman Joseph 
>> Date: April 18, 2018 at 1:06:33 PM EDT
>> To: "reichman...@gmail.com" 
>> Subject: FW: IRS  Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Reichman Joseph 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 1:04 PM
>> To: 'IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU' 
>> Cc: DeLeon Tracy 
>> Subject: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> I have seen many posts here for jobs in that  vain
>> 
>> The IRS is currently Looking for Assembler progs GS13 grade which starts at  
>> 87,252 and goes to about 129
>> 
>> I have been working in Assembler for many years after the .com I have been 
>> bouncing around jobs more than I would like as IT became less stable
>> 
>> The IRS in my humble opinion offers something private industry at this time 
>> can’t match STABILITY. In addition after the first year you get to 
>> telecommute albeit it must be within (200 or 125)  miles (IRS says 125 miles
>> 
>> OPM says 200) don’t know which takes prescience of your POD (post of duty) 
>> you must only come into the office once a week. I think you need mangers 
>> approval (however almost all have no issue with this)
>> 
>> 
>> For a list of locations and to apply go to USA.JOBS.ORG search for ALC
>> 
>> There is a big push to modernize the code and re-write the Assembler in Java 
>> the IRS has invested a lot of time sending me and other members of my group 
>> to Java Classes without doubt it’s the best job I ever had
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Joe Reichman
>> 
>> Joe Reichman
>> 
>> IT Specialist
>> 
>> Master Files Division
>> 
>> New Carrollton Federal Building, B7-182
>> 
>> OS:IT:AD:CP:I:IB
>> 
>> Flex M,T,Th,F
>> 
>> Home office (240) 863 - 3965
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
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Re: IBM zSecure Audit reviews?

[ITschak Mugzach]

 Afail.it doesbn't support tss. Only acf2 & racf. Aid for real mf experts.
Tells only if you are in compliance or not but don't have the stig best
practice text. It is also human intensive and you'll send days & cpu to
collect data (separate phase) and manually report on each lpar.
Regulation requires ibdependent assessment so it wan't help you (but may be
the expert you'll rent, so no intetest).

Cybersecurity is dynamic. How a annual assessment helps you if during the
year and even during assessment a security control already reviewed has
been changed? Will u be vulenarable a whole year?

Iscm is the only methode to keep an eye open on your maingframe security.

ITschak

בתאריך יום ה׳, 19 באפר׳ 2018, 18:01, מאת Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) ‏<
lionel.d...@va.gov>:

> I've been asked to look into IBM's zSecure Audit for use with CA Top
> Secret and for DISA STIG compliance.
>
> Can anyone provide me with an unbiased review on the pros/cons of this
> product?
>
> Feel free to e-mail me directly.
>
> Thank you
>
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[Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)]

I've been asked to look into IBM's zSecure Audit for use with CA Top Secret and 
for DISA STIG compliance.

Can anyone provide me with an unbiased review on the pros/cons of this product?

Feel free to e-mail me directly.

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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Allan Staller]

I have seen this happen with an extreme mismatch in LPAR weights.
Check your MASDEF parameters.

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Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 9:48 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SYSPLEX Hung

Hi,

For the past week we've had 2 crashes due to one LPAR being hung in a two 
SYSPLEX LPAR causing sympathy sickness.

In both cases the indication is $HASP263 message (Checkpoint lock), followed by 
*MASTER* pending on the JES2 CKPT volume.

Finally IXC426D to partition the sick LPAR out.

We do not have an SFM policy in effect, no changes done or maintenance applied.

The problem LPAR SYSLOG stops recording approx 10-12 prior to IXC426D message. 
NO indication of any issues on problem LPAR.

I wonder if anyone has seen this.

I don't think JES2 is causing this, it is a victim.

Thoughts?

Thanks

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Re: SYSPLEX Hung

[Mark Jacobs - Listserv]

Have you taken a SAD of the failed system?

Mark Jacobs

Salah Balboul
April 19, 2018 at 10:48 AM
Hi,

For the past week we've had 2 crashes due to one LPAR being hung in a two 
SYSPLEX LPAR causing sympathy sickness.

In both cases the indication is $HASP263 message (Checkpoint lock), followed by 
*MASTER* pending on the JES2 CKPT volume.

Finally IXC426D to partition the sick LPAR out.

We do not have an SFM policy in effect, no changes done or maintenance applied.

The problem LPAR SYSLOG stops recording approx 10-12 prior to IXC426D message. 
NO indication of any issues on problem LPAR.

I wonder if anyone has seen this.

I don't think JES2 is causing this, it is a victim.

Thoughts?

Thanks

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SYSPLEX Hung

[Salah Balboul]

Hi,

For the past week we've had 2 crashes due to one LPAR being hung in a two 
SYSPLEX LPAR causing sympathy sickness.

In both cases the indication is $HASP263 message (Checkpoint lock), followed by 
*MASTER* pending on the JES2 CKPT volume. 

Finally IXC426D to partition the sick LPAR out.

We do not have an SFM policy in effect, no changes done or maintenance applied.

The problem LPAR SYSLOG stops recording approx 10-12 prior to IXC426D message. 
NO indication of any issues on problem LPAR.

I wonder if anyone has seen this.

I don't think JES2 is causing this, it is a victim.

Thoughts?

Thanks

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Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

[J R]

I don't often agree with you, Scott, but when one of the leading mainframe 
advisers advocates replacing mainframe assembler code with multi-platform java, 
it's only a matter of time before businesses will try to save money on hardware 
also. 

> On Apr 18, 2018, at 20:50, scott Ford  wrote:
> 
> Has real Mainframe development jobs disappeared ? It seems so ..

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Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 17 Apr 2018 to 18 Apr 2018 (#2018-108)

[Carmen Vitullo]

At z/os 2.1 with some SDSF PTF's I think and at 2.2 the SDSFAUX address space 
provides, parmlib,proclib,apf,linklist,dynamic exit,enq,address space 
memory...any other good info 





Carmen Vitullo 

- Original Message -

From: "Alan(GMAIL)Watthey"  
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:36:55 AM 
Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 17 Apr 2018 to 18 Apr 2018 (#2018-108) 

Hi listers, 



I was wondering if there was an easy way to get all the authorised libraries 
on a z/OS system. I am looking ultimately for a Rexx solution. 



Now I obviously know about 'D PROG,APF' but according to the manual there 
are many more authorised libraries than these. Also, there is PROGxx to 
look at but SYS1.LINKLIB and SYS1.SVCLIB are authorised whether or not they 
are specified in PROGxx. Then we have all of LPA which is authorised 
(pageable, fixed, modified and dynamic). Maybe someone has changed a 
default library name (such as SYS1.LPALIB or SYS1.LINKLIB). Maybe someone 
has dynamically added or deleted an authorised library. LINKLIST might be 
automatically authorised or it might not. 



Will I have to build this entire list myself (that looks a bit daunting to 
me), is there some obscure (or even obvious) MVS command available I have 
never used before or can I find it somewhere in memory? 



Regards, 

Alan Watthey 


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Re: [External] Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 17 Apr 2018 to 18 Apr 2018 (#2018-108)

[Pommier, Rex]

Alan,

One other quite simple way of getting this information from TSO.  TSO ISRDDN 
and then APF on the command line or TSO ISRDDN APF.  I would think this command 
would be fairly easy to roll into a REXX exec.

Rex

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Of Alan(GMAIL)Watthey
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 12:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: [External] Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 17 Apr 2018 to 18 Apr 2018 (#2018-108)

Hi listers,

 

I was wondering if there was an easy way to get all the authorised libraries
on a z/OS system.  I am looking ultimately for a Rexx solution.

 

Now I obviously know about 'D PROG,APF' but according to the manual there
are many more authorised libraries than these.  Also, there is PROGxx to
look at but SYS1.LINKLIB and SYS1.SVCLIB are authorised whether or not they
are specified in PROGxx.  Then we have all of LPA which is authorised
(pageable, fixed, modified and dynamic).  Maybe someone has changed a
default library name (such as SYS1.LPALIB or SYS1.LINKLIB).  Maybe someone
has dynamically added or deleted an authorised library.  LINKLIST might be
automatically authorised or it might not.

 

Will I have to build this entire list myself (that looks a bit daunting to
me), is there some obscure (or even obvious) MVS command available I have
never used before or can I find it somewhere in memory?

 

Regards,

Alan Watthey


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Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

[Scott Chapman]

Agreed, that would be interesting: same (significant and reasonable) Java 
workload on Linux on Intel, Windows on Intel, z/OS, and zLinux. And throw Linux 
on AWS in there as well.

I'm almost at a position where I could do most of those. I think I did some of 
those tests a few years ago, but I can't seem to find the results at the 
moment. My (vague) recollection is that there wasn't a whole lot of significant 
difference. But certainly technology has marched on in the intervening years. 

I will say AWS is generally seems a little slower than running locally on my 
main Windows machine, primarily (I believe) due to I/O being slower. 

Scott Chapman

On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:13:38 +0800, David Crayford  wrote:

>
>I've yet to see a Java workload run faster on z/OS then on x86. And our
>x86 servers are heavily virtualized using Hyper-V. Our zIIP runs at
>below 10% so there is plenty
>of capacity available. It would be interesting to compare the
>performance of Java running on z/OS vs zLinux.
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Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 17 Apr 2018 to 18 Apr 2018 (#2018-108)

[Michael Babcock]

One other thought, Mark Zelden’s IPLINFO REXX code already pulls a lot of
your info too.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 5:41 AM Michael Babcock 
wrote:

> What version of z/OS do you have?  Do you have SDSF?Later versions of
> SDSF has the APF, LPA, LINK commands to display those.  You can also use
> SDSF’s RGEN EXAMPLE command to get a sample REXX to pull that data.
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:37 AM Alan(GMAIL)Watthey 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi listers,
>>
>>
>>
>> I was wondering if there was an easy way to get all the authorised
>> libraries
>> on a z/OS system.  I am looking ultimately for a Rexx solution.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now I obviously know about 'D PROG,APF' but according to the manual there
>> are many more authorised libraries than these.  Also, there is PROGxx to
>> look at but SYS1.LINKLIB and SYS1.SVCLIB are authorised whether or not
>> they
>> are specified in PROGxx.  Then we have all of LPA which is authorised
>> (pageable, fixed, modified and dynamic).  Maybe someone has changed a
>> default library name (such as SYS1.LPALIB or SYS1.LINKLIB).  Maybe someone
>> has dynamically added or deleted an authorised library.  LINKLIST might be
>> automatically authorised or it might not.
>>
>>
>>
>> Will I have to build this entire list myself (that looks a bit daunting to
>> me), is there some obscure (or even obvious) MVS command available I have
>> never used before or can I find it somewhere in memory?
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alan Watthey
>>
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Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 17 Apr 2018 to 18 Apr 2018 (#2018-108)

[Michael Babcock]

What version of z/OS do you have?  Do you have SDSF?Later versions of
SDSF has the APF, LPA, LINK commands to display those.  You can also use
SDSF’s RGEN EXAMPLE command to get a sample REXX to pull that data.

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 12:37 AM Alan(GMAIL)Watthey 
wrote:

> Hi listers,
>
>
>
> I was wondering if there was an easy way to get all the authorised
> libraries
> on a z/OS system.  I am looking ultimately for a Rexx solution.
>
>
>
> Now I obviously know about 'D PROG,APF' but according to the manual there
> are many more authorised libraries than these.  Also, there is PROGxx to
> look at but SYS1.LINKLIB and SYS1.SVCLIB are authorised whether or not they
> are specified in PROGxx.  Then we have all of LPA which is authorised
> (pageable, fixed, modified and dynamic).  Maybe someone has changed a
> default library name (such as SYS1.LPALIB or SYS1.LINKLIB).  Maybe someone
> has dynamically added or deleted an authorised library.  LINKLIST might be
> automatically authorised or it might not.
>
>
>
> Will I have to build this entire list myself (that looks a bit daunting to
> me), is there some obscure (or even obvious) MVS command available I have
> never used before or can I find it somewhere in memory?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Alan Watthey
>
>
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Re: IRS Assembler Java Big Plus Jobs

[Timothy Sipples]

Cheryl Watson wrote:
>There are two very big reasons to replace assembler with
>Java The second is that Java, for the most part, will
>run on zIIPs and reduce the cost of software.

Although I'm fond of Java, I'm not bold enough to make that cost forecast,
not as a general prediction anyway. There's some excellent, highly
efficient Assembler in the world. Moreover, if it costs $1,000 to save
$1/year, that wouldn't be a wise investment as such.


Timothy Sipples
IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM Z & LinuxONE,
Multi-Geography
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Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

[Timothy Sipples]

Steve Beaver wrote:
>IBM ALCS became zTFP.

I don't think so. My understanding, from Wikipedia primarily, is that the
ALCS and z/TPF family tree started with a common root ancestor in the SABRE
project for American Airlines. SABRE entered initial pilot service in 1960
on IBM 7090 machines.

Then PARS -> ACP -> ACP/TPF -> TPF -> TPF/ESA -> z/TPF (IBM supported
today). PARS definitely made it onto System/360, probably from 1965 with
the first machines. However, there were at least three PARS customers that
started on IBM 70xx machines: American, Delta, and PanAm. (Were there any
others?) All three switched over to System/360 and successor machines
fairly quickly.

ALCS started as a variant of ACP (or ACP/TPF or TPF?) that was
(re)platformed onto MVS. Like z/TPF, ALCS continues to evolve, and the
latest release of ALCS is IBM supported on z/OS. Oddly enough, the reverse
was possible for a while: early releases of MVS (and perhaps all releases
of SVS) could run atop ACP. Today's z/TPF, and today's ALCS on z/OS, can
run as z/VM guests.

For a while there was also a variant of PARS called CPARS (Compact
Programmed Airline Reservations System).


Timothy Sipples
IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM Z & LinuxONE,
Multi-Geography
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Re: IEE496I?

[Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM]

Yes, but if I understood the APAR text correctly, we started enjoying its 
benefits after moving from a z196 to a z13 a year ago.

Grtn,
Kees.


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Jim Mulder
> Sent: 18 April, 2018 17:15
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: IEE496I?
> 
>   This behavior was introduced by APAR OA03335 in 2003.
> The PRESCPU parm in IEASYSxx to override this behavior was
> introduced in APAR OA09649 in 2004.
> 
> Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test  IBM Corp.
> Poughkeepsie NY
> 
> > Message IEE496I says that z/OS has manipulated (put online or
> > offline) the number of CPs or ZIIPs at IPL to match the
> > configuration in the LPAR Activation Profile.
> >
> > Does anyone know since when and why z/OS does this?
> > If I put one or more CPs online to an LPAR, because I need them
> > there for a certain period of time, I do not expect z/OS to change
> > this at a random moment such as an IPL.
> 
> 
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Re: ESQA is exhausted

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Sure it depends, when we had the WMQI Brokers in full production, we had to 
split the Execution Groups over more than 1 STC, because they hit the 2GB 
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Kees.

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> Subject: AW: Re: ESQA is exhausted
> 
> >ESQA and ECSA are above the line, so you're probably not decreasing
> that
> 2GB space by much.
> 
> 
> 
> I would! Well, I would because -- without going into details -- in our
> setup, CICS AORs go SOS (short on storage) every now and then. Therefore
> we would be very cautious decreasing the size of the extended private
> region. So, it depends.
> 
> 
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Re: The IRS Really Needs Some New Computers

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Shane G wrote:

Welcome back Shane! Great to see you're back to tease us with your good 
spirited posts! ;-)


>I can't believe none of the Aussies subscribed have commented. 

I think you're the last Aussie here in IBM-MAIN, unless I missed someone... If 
there are others, please shout! 


>Our Social Security people (whatever they are called this week) have also been 
>getting hammered for years about their stone-age computer environment. OK, 
>M204 is flint, but what the hell; they too run decent kit. It works, and it'd 
>better keep working. Been there, seen it, tremble at the thought of the dills 
>proposing it all be chucked out for SAP on Windoze or some-such ... Let's hope 
>the proponents for Linux continue to have some wins.

About South Africa own tax collector: We have what they call - 'SARS e-Filing'. 
You, businesses and employers do all the taxing work online. Of course, you can 
still mail (snailmail in case you don't know ;-D ) or waste petrol/diesel to 
deliver your papers at a tax office.

As published on their website: '2.7 million individual taxpayers and 350 000 
businesses ' are enjoying this free e-filing system. You get your latest tax 
status within a few hours if you're just earning a simple salary or pension. Or 
it can take some days if your tax papers are somewhat complex. You will get a 
notification in about a week if you have to pay more tax or you will get a 
refund.

... back to our scheduled mainframe discussion...

I certainly know SARS is having a mixture of different computers: mainframes, 
midrange computers of various flavours including Linux and PCs/Laptops with 
different operating systems.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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